IRC log for #ldstech on 20120301

00:06.07tccastaldoTimRiker, did you get the problem with RegisterIntercepter figured out?
00:13.30tccastaldoIsn't "We've reached the capacity of what we can handle" redundant?
00:30.16tccastaldoTimRiker, I noticed that a user who can't register because of capacity limits can still submit a paper and print out their (empty) schedule.
00:42.04tccastaldoGood night, everyone!
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01:49.03LunchTimeQuick question for you gurus
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13:29.33Jazzee8845hi
13:29.37Jazzee8845scgallafent
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14:54.27tdeforesthowdy
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15:02.26tccastaldoIt's interesting to see the activity from last night up on the big screen.
15:03.04tccastaldoThere's this big dead spot between 2:15-6:30 this morning.
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15:36.23Jazzee8845hi
15:36.37tccastaldoGood morning.
15:36.47tccastaldos/morning/afternoon/
15:39.48tccastaldo961 this morning. :)
15:41.53Jazzee8845is there a meeting today
15:42.21tccastaldoIt's not Tuesday, so yes.
15:42.29Jazzee8845ok
15:42.57Jazzee8845scgallafent  can I talk to you?
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15:48.21Jazzee8845scgallafent would I be able to report on something?
15:49.07Jazzee8845tccastaldo  can I do a report in meeting today?
15:49.30tccastaldoI'm not in charge, but you probably can.
15:49.47tccastaldoUsually, we report on what we did the previous day and what we're planning on doing today.
15:50.02Jazzee8845ok
15:52.12scgallafentJazzee8845: I'm just sitting down at the computer. We can talk after the meeting.
15:52.23Jazzee8845k
15:53.57smootarJazzee8845, you are welcome to report today.  Just be mindful of the time, we only have 30 minutes set aside for this.
15:54.11Jazzee8845ok
15:54.36scgallafentWelcome back, smootar.
15:55.29tdeforestreminds me of welcome back kotter
15:55.56scgallafentToo bad we can't play the theme song over IRC.
15:56.35tdeforest:)
15:56.55smootarThx, it is good to be back around.
15:57.00tccastaldo:)
15:57.02smootarIt has been a very full week.
15:57.06tdeforesthttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVS3WNt7yRU
15:57.10smootarI'm a little run down.
15:57.30scgallafent~give smootar a cookie and a Diet Coke
15:57.30infobotACTION gives a cookie and a Diet Coke to smootar
15:57.54smootarBreakfast of champions. :)
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15:58.09scgallafentI've got a family member who gets occasional migraines. She takes Excedrin and then cleans her whole house.
15:58.35smootartdeforest, that is a blast from the past :)
15:58.37scgallafentDo you want some detail on what we've done while you've been gone?
15:58.47tdeforest:)
15:58.52smootarYes, I would like to get caught back up.
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15:59.07KFitzScgallafent lets not talk about the parties we've had here
15:59.16TimRikeryawns
15:59.23scgallafentOh, we don't want to share those details. :)
15:59.37TimRikerhuh? wha? did I miss a party?
15:59.57smootar:)
16:00.06KFitzwhile smootar was away
16:00.10Jazzee8845~hungry
16:00.10infobot[hungry] http://www.thehungersite.com/ or http://www.thehungersite.com/cgi-bin/WebObjects/HungerSite or http://www.hungryminds.com/
16:00.12smootar~startmeet LDSTech
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16:00.21smootar~startmeeting LDSTech
16:00.25scgallafentsmootar is a little tired.
16:00.26smootar;/
16:00.30scgallafent~meetstart LDSTech
16:00.30infobot********** Start of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.03.01 16:00:30 **********
16:00.44smootarWho is all here?
16:00.45tccastaldoAns scgallafent wins the prize!
16:00.52scgallafentwaves
16:01.01tccastaldo~give scgallafent the prize
16:01.01infobotACTION gives the prize to scgallafent
16:01.07Jazzee8845* waves
16:01.09tdeforesthere
16:01.13tccastaldowaves
16:01.13zakzakattackHere
16:01.14KFitzmoo
16:01.15TimRikermoins
16:01.18smootarscgallafent, do you want to begin?
16:01.23Jazzee8845how do you wave?
16:01.32scgallafentHaven't had time to finish my text, so I'll type...
16:01.37scgallafentMajor events for the last few days:
16:01.47scgallafentI added the user control panel for Google Groups.
16:01.51scgallafentIt is available on cdev.
16:01.59smootar:)
16:02.04scgallafentI'm working on some of the related items for subscribe/unsubscribe features.
16:02.16scgallafentI'm also tinkering with content import possibilities from the old groups.
16:02.34scgallafentI've been doing a little work on CPAS. smootar should have some email related to that.
16:02.58scgallafentI met with Larry Jones and company on Monday to talk about RecProp DSA.
16:03.03scgallafentI haven't heard anything back since then.
16:03.19scgallafentAnd my 15-year-old isn't happy this morning!
16:03.32scgallafent(She just burst in to share her feelings.)
16:03.34scgallafentThat's it for me.
16:03.39tccastaldo:(
16:03.53smootarsmiles about the 15 yr old.
16:04.08smootarthanks scgallafent
16:04.13smootarTimRiker, ?
16:04.44TimRikerfixed attachments and author details on scheduler and pushed changed to production.
16:05.05smootarnotices we are 962 registered this morning.
16:05.16TimRikerlooked into displaying registration date and discovered that _id objects are based on time only. not date. so we don't know when people registered.
16:05.29KFitz<--- is not excited about that number
16:05.43smootaris hoping for 1200 registered.
16:05.43TimRikershould really add a date to registration, paper submission, etc.
16:05.59tccastaldoWe've had one more person sign on since I got here an hour ago.
16:06.07TimRikerI hear tccastaldo has a party planned for 1024 registrants.
16:06.15tccastaldo:)
16:06.31TimRikerno progress on coda to report. :(
16:06.35tccastaldo:(
16:06.43smootarnods
16:06.45TimRikericp list traffic is picking up some.
16:06.50Jazzee8845:(
16:07.09TimRikerwe need to work on tracking down projects for ldstech2012 and getting more papers in.
16:07.22smootarIs the icp traffic mainly from EPIS?
16:07.31tdeforestnods at TimRiker
16:07.47smootarTimRiker, I agree.
16:07.51Jazzee8845yep :)
16:07.54TimRikerthere are 14 attachments at present.
16:08.11TimRikersmootar, larry, me, epis, and a couple others.
16:08.31TimRikerguess that's it for me
16:08.33smootarnods
16:08.39smootarThx TimRiker
16:08.42smootartdeforest, ?
16:08.47tdeforestProKarma inquired about separate dev and test environments? We are working toward continuous integration lane but it won't have separate dev and testing lanes. ProKarma will dev and test on cdev as we currently do.
16:08.47tdeforestAdded emergency exit map to packet. Other welcome packet updates.https://tech.lds.org/wiki/File:Welcome_packet_-draft-.pdf
16:08.47tdeforestSent draft version of style guide to Kory Garner for suggestions.
16:08.48tdeforestUpdated save task button in prototype to go to the project edit view
16:08.48tdeforestMinor interface tweaks to the Group admin table in joomla to match with other datatables
16:09.37smootarIs the latest SWARM at cdev.lds.org/swarm?
16:09.54smootarAre they committing their changes to SVN?
16:10.01tdeforestfor the prototype yes
16:10.13smootarHow about for the stuff they are demoing?
16:10.16tdeforesti don't think they've checked anything in yet
16:10.33tdeforestwe just got them setup with the db yesterday
16:10.36scgallafentThey are checking in.
16:10.43scgallafentr165 about two minutes ago.
16:11.03scgallafent27 revisions so far this morning.
16:11.09smootarWhich pushes to our cdev?
16:11.10scgallafentAnd there's 166.
16:11.23scgallafentDon't know. TimRiker?
16:11.39smootarIs this auto pushing to cdev.lds.org/swarm?
16:11.48TimRikeryes, should push to cdev.
16:11.58smootar:)
16:12.24smootarWhat did they demo most recently?
16:12.36tdeforestno demo yet
16:12.50tdeforestdemo scheduled for mar 13 at 8am mst
16:12.50smootarAhhh, I thought I saw something on that.  Maybe that is coming.
16:12.55smootar:)
16:13.12smootarAnything else tdeforest ?
16:13.17tdeforestthat is all
16:13.23smootarThx
16:13.28smootartccastaldo, ?
16:13.46KFitzCan I break in ;)
16:13.59KFitzsince my stuff is Swarm related and quick
16:14.02tccastaldostops just before pasting
16:14.11smootarKeep going KFitz
16:14.20smootarthx tccastaldo
16:14.24KFitzTom and I went over the requirements and moved them into Sprints
16:14.30smootar:)
16:14.44KFitzand I recieved the test cases and will go over them today
16:14.46KFitzthats it ;)
16:14.57KFitzback to my real job… Sorry tccastaldo
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16:15.02smootarWhat is our confidence at this point of having a beta for the conference?
16:15.10tccastaldoI got Scheduler to remove attachments when a course is removed (instead of leaving the files in the database).
16:15.10tccastaldoI also prepared and sent a list of presenters to Paige Guthrie (from ICS Comm) so she could send out an e-mail reminding everyone about the deadline.  I'm assuming she hasn't sent it yet, though, because I'm on the presenters list and I haven't seen an e-mail yet.
16:15.10tccastaldoI know she was also working with Tom Johnson on that, too.
16:15.10tccastaldoThe most exciting thing I did yesterday was help an EPIS employee get set up for work on Scheduler in the LDSTech IDE. :)  That means it won't just be Tim and me anymore!
16:15.12tccastaldoJust a reminder, the deadline for submission (so presentations get to correlation) is today.  In production, the deadline is shown as a week from today.
16:15.17smootarKFitz?
16:15.18KFitzI dont think we can answer that until the 13th of March
16:15.32smootarnods and starts to read tccastaldo paste
16:15.40KFitzWe asked them to have Login, Project view, and Test Case creation completed
16:15.53KFitzso that conference attendees can see the tool and enter test cases
16:16.03KFitzthat work is what will be demo'd by 13th
16:16.04tdeforestis cautiously optimistic
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16:16.37tccastaldoThat deadline will be enforced (meaning the "Submit Paper" link will disappear once that date is reached).
16:16.41KFitzI agree with Tdeforest, with a slight case of pessimism added in… its the QA Manager side of me ;
16:16.51smootarnods
16:16.55tdeforestheh
16:17.13smootartccastaldo, thx
16:17.18Jazzee8845smiles
16:17.20tccastaldoGroup my comments together.
16:17.20smootarThat is good to hear about EPIS.
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16:17.42tccastaldoYes -- it's been the only feedback I've had from them. :)
16:18.01smootarAnything else tccastaldo ?
16:18.10tccastaldoI don't know the employee's name, other than that his nick was "monkeyjump."
16:18.12tccastaldoThat's all.
16:18.37smootarzakzakattack, ?
16:19.17zakzakattackNothing from me. I finished my stuff yeaterday and i need to talk to bro ski to see if i need to do anything else. thats it for me
16:19.45smootarthx zakzakattack, we need to get you up to speed on the test cases for SWARM.
16:20.03smootarzakzakattack, can you join the swarm project?
16:20.16KFitzsmootar it would be great if zak had cycles to run through the same test cases as PK
16:20.17zakzakattackok i can do that
16:20.30smootaragrees with KFitz
16:20.50KFitzin browsing quicking at their test cases they are written well
16:20.56smootar:)
16:20.57KFitzquickly I meant
16:21.16smootarSo let's get zakzakattack trained a little in this area.
16:21.22smootarKFitz, can you help with that?
16:21.49KFitzyeah I can forward the test cases, they are pretty self explanatory
16:22.08zakzakattackok sweet
16:22.19KFitzI dunno that much will be available before the 13th  (unless you want to test the services layer)
16:22.31smootarThanks.
16:22.41smootardlhace are you around?
16:22.58smootardlhace, any updates?
16:23.19dlhaceI am around
16:23.37smootar;)
16:23.44dlhaceI need a priority list of things that are needed by the community group.  
16:24.16dlhaceThere are a lot of things that I can be working on, but I need to know what is most important.
16:24.22smootarWe need to prioritize the list, but how are we doing on getting all the SWARM lanes?
16:24.52smootarWe have cdev I know.
16:24.55dlhacewe have the one in CDEV and we have the one for production
16:25.25smootarI'm assuming we don't have anything running or configured on the production, correct?
16:25.35dlhaceThat is correct
16:25.46dlhaceThe production one is L12188
16:25.51smootarDo we have a server that could be used for ctest?
16:26.00smootarnods
16:26.11dlhaceLet me think about that one
16:26.19dlhaceI am sure I can come up with something
16:26.36smootarthat would be great.
16:26.57smootarAnything that the team is needing from dlhace right now besides what I have asked?
16:27.00dlhaceAlso, one of the things that I am prioritizing is to try and have splunk available for community logging
16:27.15dlhaceby tech conference time
16:27.26smootarIs splunk the thing that you demoed about 6 months ago?
16:27.35dlhaceYes,
16:27.41smootarKewl.
16:27.59smootarAnything else dlhace ?
16:28.01dlhacethere is an open house today in the Zion room at 11:00
16:28.09dlhacefor splunk
16:28.09smootaropen house?
16:28.17smootarnods
16:28.42dlhaceAlso, I probably need to do some follow up work with security on the results of the pentration test
16:28.44smootarIs this done by the Tech Services group?
16:28.48dlhaceyes
16:28.59smootarnods
16:29.12smootarJazzee8845, you said that you had something?
16:29.21smootarWe are almost out of time.
16:29.25Jazzee8845ok
16:29.36Jazzee8845yesterday i signed up to test
16:29.43Jazzee8845cpas
16:29.49Jazzee8845today
16:29.58Jazzee8845will still be testing cpas
16:30.11Jazzee8845putting error 500 back up on jira
16:30.27scgallafentIs this the error 500 logging out of cdev Joomla?
16:30.52Jazzee8845both cdev and lds tech main
16:31.02scgallafentThere are already two JIRA items related to that.
16:31.14Jazzee8845ok
16:31.32smootarThanks Jazzee8845
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16:31.38smootarAnything else Jazzee8845 ?
16:31.50Jazzee8845could we have cdev in one place
16:32.14TimRikerhuh? cdev is in one place.
16:32.21smootar?
16:32.37Jazzee8845like i have to click loads of different links for cdev
16:32.54Jazzee8845and that fills up tabs
16:33.06KFitzI forwarded the Test Cases to Smootar and zakzakattack
16:33.13KFitzfor sprint 1 and 2
16:33.15smootarThx KFitz
16:33.20TimRikerJazzee8845, huh? I use cdev in one tab.
16:33.40Jazzee8845i use different ones
16:33.45TimRikerughs at people checking in db connect strings to subversion
16:33.53smootarJazzee8845, let's follow-up after this meeting on this topic.
16:33.58zakzakattackk cool
16:34.05Jazzee8845k
16:34.10smootarI had a good trip to Silicon Valley
16:34.10smootarI met with Google and Apple
16:34.10smootarCisco was handled by Chad Fullmer yesterday because of a funeral yesterday that I had to be to.
16:34.10smootarThe visit to Apple was excellent, the visit to Google was good.
16:34.10smootarApple has an issue with having signed an agreement that everything they do day or night is owned by apple.
16:34.10smootarSome have worked around this with their managers.
16:34.12smootarI think that each one would have to work through this with their managers for now.
16:34.39smootar~meetend LDSTech
16:34.40infobot********** End of the LDSTech Meeting on 2012.03.01 16:34:40 **********
16:34.51smootarLet me know if you have any questions.
16:34.57smootarThanks all from joining.
16:35.09tdeforestthx smootar and welcome back!
16:35.10scgallafentworked for a company that thought that. He doesn't work for them now.
16:35.29tdeforestmy weather for today http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?brand=wxmap&query=44.33111572,-69.86837006&zoom=10
16:35.30scgallafentTimRiker: When people check in credentials, we ought to enforce that the credentials have to be changed.
16:35.42Jazzee8845welcome back smooter
16:35.55smootarIt is good to be back.
16:35.59smootarthx
16:36.33tccastaldo"Snow freezing fog?"  What is that, tdeforest?
16:36.33smootarWe now need to focus on getting ICS to bring to the table meaningful project work.
16:37.10tdeforesttccastaldo: i can't say for sure but it mostly looks like snow to me…and lots of it
16:37.40tccastaldoThat winter storm warning has got to make things even more fun.
16:37.50tccastaldoYesterday we finally got some more snow.
16:38.26tccastaldoSome roads were slick; I saw someone in a pickup skid out of a turn this morning.
16:38.41tdeforestyikes
16:39.05zakzakattackalmost slid out today....in the parking lot....
16:39.06tccastaldoFortunately, he regained control and didn't end up on the sidewalk.
16:39.24KFitzplease stay away from my car ;)
16:39.46tccastaldoWhich one is yours? ;)
16:39.48zakzakattackwoops.... that was your car?
16:39.57tccastaldo:D
16:40.05KFitzthe one that will be expensive for you to fix
16:40.18tccastaldoSounds like mine.
16:41.13tccastaldo:(
16:46.44TimRikerwishes that dgujjala would join the channel as ask questions rather than committing code over and over again with the same useless comment attached.
16:46.56scgallafentsees TimRiker's commit, but still thinks we ought to require credentials to be changed
16:47.25TimRikerscgallafent, agreed. not worried about it yet, but we should.
16:48.13scgallafentIt looks like he's trying to test connections. Is that what you're seeing?
16:50.12TimRikeryeah, he's trying to connect to tech.lds.org which will not work. different credentials.
16:50.48scgallafentShould I send an email and invite him to join us here?
16:51.21TimRikersure. and please remind him to NEVER CHECKIN CREDENTIALS
16:51.59smootardoesn't see TimRiker yell very often.
16:52.14smootar:)
16:52.19scgallafentI thought TimRiker was actually quite restrained. :)
16:52.56smootar:)
16:53.17smootarWe should never check-in credentials.
16:53.22smootarEVER!
16:58.10TimRikernods
16:58.28TimRikercleans out another example of committed credentials from prokarma.
17:02.15scgallafentEmail re IRC and committing credentials sent.
17:02.23tdeforestthanks TimRiker for being so vigilant
17:02.44TimRikerheh. is that what I am? =P
17:03.21tdeforest:)
17:03.30tdeforesti'm the PR dept
17:03.40TimRiker8-)
17:04.55tccastaldoAre you implying nerdiness with the glasses on that smiley, TimRiker?
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17:12.43TimRikertccastaldo, huh? wha? whatever gave you that impression earthling?
17:13.26tccastaldochuckles
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17:31.12ProfRoweMorning all, does anyone happen to know how long the OWASP meeting will be tonight?
17:32.43ProfRowethis one:  https://www.owasp.org/index.php/Salt_Lake
17:33.34scgallafentThe security guys might have a better answer to this question. Do you want me to see if I can chase one of them down?
17:34.16ProfRoweIf you wouldn't mind, I'm going to bring a couple of students but one of them has to be back by 8pm-ish.  Just wondered how long they think the mtg will run.
17:34.24scgallafentI'll send an email right now.
17:34.30ProfRoweThanks
17:34.59scgallafentCan you /msg me your email address and I'll copy you on the email?
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17:44.15scgallafentnotes that it isn't just ProKarma that has cryptic commit messages: "more minor fixes"
17:47.14TimRikerhehe.
17:47.25Jazzee8845smooter you free to talk
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17:51.34Jazzee8845?
17:51.43scgallafentJazzee8845: The person you are talking to isn't notified unless you spell their nick correctly. You can start typing the first few characters of the nick and then hit tab.
17:52.03Jazzee8845smootar you are free to talk?
17:52.04scgallafentA lot of people leave IRC open when they are away from their computer. If they are away, they won't see your message.
17:52.22scgallafentYou tried to send me a couple of messages early this morning, but I was still tucked in bed. :)
17:53.11Jazzee8845sorry
17:53.34smootarJazzee8845, what's up?
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17:54.00Jazzee8845you want me to talk to you about cdev what i  mentioned in the meeting
17:54.45smootarI was hoping you were going to ask, go ahead.
17:55.04Jazzee8845i was thinking you know like lds.org
17:55.29smootarI know about lds.org.
17:55.42smootarBut what is the relation between lds.org and cdev?
17:55.59TimRikerscgallafent, I don't know any of the people listed on the OWASP page. I'd say ProfRowe should email them and ask.
17:56.56Jazzee8845we have a cdev page like that ish so when we test new things to help bishops and like the ward newslettlers
17:57.12scgallafentI sent an email to one of the guys I know in security. I figured they would be the most likely to know. Emailing the people listed on the page seems too obvious, in retrospect.
17:58.23Jazzee8845so that anyone can test them
17:58.41Jazzee8845like the mls functionality
17:58.50smootarYou mean with fake credentials?
17:58.56smootarBut with real roles?
17:59.00Jazzee8845yes
17:59.24Jazzee8845so we can test for bugs
17:59.28Jazzee8845on cdev
17:59.37Jazzee8845still  using coda data base
18:00.33smootarcoda doesn't support lds.org or other apps.
18:00.55Jazzee8845ok
18:01.07smootarThere is an initiative called FORG that would support these applications doing what you are talking about.
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18:02.20smootarWe want to get there, we aren't there today.
18:03.28smootarBut we all like the concept and are moving in that direction.
18:05.49TimRikerProfRowe, the Jerusalem room is booked tonight from 6 to 9. I'm not sure if they are planning to use it for that long.
18:06.39Jazzee8845smootar
18:06.50scgallafentProfRowe, just looked at my email and noticed an out-of-office reply on my earlier message. TimRiker pointed out the obvious: there are a couple of contacts on the OWASP page that you might be able to get an answer from.
18:07.36Jazzee8845testing CPAS going good
18:09.56smootarJazzee8845, I'm glad that is going well.
18:10.45Jazzee8845sommtar i like helping out as comunity managers it is great
18:11.33smootarsommtar, I like it.  I may have to change my name. Sounds mid-evil.
18:11.56smootarAre you helping manage the CPAS project?
18:12.16Jazzee8845no
18:12.44Jazzee8845blackberry and lds art apple
18:14.57Jazzee8845it is great as a volunteer doing that role and uk based
18:16.26Jazzee8845i start 4pm gmt and finish 7pm
18:16.32Jazzee8845gmt
18:16.37Jazzee8845every day ish
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18:19.19Jazzee8845:)
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18:45.34Jazzee8845good bye clocking off
18:49.48tccastaldowonders if he can heat up his lunch using his laptop's vent
18:50.33tdeforestlooks like https://cdev.lds.org/swarm/
18:50.36tdeforestis down
18:50.42tccastaldo:(
18:50.57scgallafentWorks for me?
18:51.26tdeforestand now it works for me to. the for fixing it scgallafent ;)
18:51.37scgallafentAlways! :)
18:51.40tdeforests/the/thx/
18:51.46tdeforest:)
18:52.07tccastaldo:)
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18:56.23JoshBangIs anyone else doing the SWARM test cases? I am super confused on what to do with them
18:56.57zakzakattackjosh bang is helping me on them\
18:57.44tdeforestJoshBang: like kfitz said this morning there isn't much to test yet
18:59.17JoshBangok thanks
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19:32.49tdeforestMurali was here? Didn't see him join.
19:33.04tdeforesthe's part of the ProKarma team
19:52.23tccastaldotomjohnson, I don't know what the problem is with the upload.
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19:52.46tccastaldoI have a blank presentation entered there right now.
19:52.55tomjohnsontccastaldo, can you contact the person who was having trouble and just upload the attachment on his behalf?
19:53.07tccastaldoCertainly.  I just need the slides.
19:53.17tccastaldoI'll go contact Ryan.
19:53.36Jazzee8845tccastaldo do you have trainning?
19:53.52Jazzee8845to give out on certain projects?
19:54.10tccastaldoA few.
19:55.54Jazzee8845ok
19:58.17Jazzee8845tccastaldo do you know?
19:58.18Jazzee8845Travis Eberhard
19:58.33tccastaldoNo.
19:58.43Jazzee8845ok
19:58.51Jazzee8845thirst
19:58.58Jazzee8845y
20:09.54Jazzee8845have anyone see broski
20:12.50JoshBangJazzee8845, I dont even know who that is. sorry
20:12.59Jazzee8845david
20:13.02Jazzee8845ski
20:13.19JoshBangsierakowski?
20:13.22Jazzee8845yes
20:13.24JoshBangoh
20:13.33JoshBangno I havent seen him, sorry
20:13.40Jazzee8845ok
20:13.46Jazzee8845what about hal
20:13.51Jazzee8845jay ruston
20:14.30JoshBangI havent seen him today. Want me to go see if he is at his desk?
20:14.47JoshBangHe doesnt get onto xchat
20:15.47Jazzee8845nah its ok josh
20:16.15JoshBangight
20:16.20JoshBangalright*
20:27.34TimRikerscgallafent, what's the wamulator gg list? I filled one in on the project page, but I'm not sure it's right.
20:27.51scgallafentWamulator is a standalone group for now.
20:30.11scgallafentThe group membership doesn't overlap. We need to talk to Mark Boyd about the project before tying the group to the project.
21:04.01TimRikerI talked to Mark when I added the group. we're talking about making the project public before the conference.
21:04.19TimRikerI think we should add all the list members as observers on the project and sync up the list.
21:04.32TimRikerit it wamulator-dev or just wamulator?
21:05.15TimRikerlooks is up. wamulator-dev
21:05.48TimRikerhmm. no real content there yet though. I'd say we should rename it.
21:08.31TimRikerare join/part/change role msgs supposed to go to discuss?
21:14.01TimRikercreates the other groups....
21:19.27scgallafentTimRiker: The existing list is wamulator-dev. No reason we couldn't change it.
21:19.35TimRikerin process now.
21:19.51scgallafentJoin/part/change messages shouldn't go to to discuss. The should be going to project managers and non-observers with team emails checked.
21:20.51scgallafentMark has some people on the existing list who aren't part of the project in Joomla.
21:22.56TimRikerscgallafent, yep, adding some now, and emailing others to sign up on tech.lds.org
21:23.07scgallafentOK
21:24.28TimRikerare we pushing the group management changes? they look great on cdev.
21:25.19tdeforesti think that is a good idea.
21:25.19scgallafentNeed to check and see if we're ready to push.
21:26.45scgallafentI'll look through the code and see if there are any concerns with pushing it.
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21:29.20tdeforestcdev is a little slow (but still working) at the moment
21:30.01tdeforestis getting excited for his trip west. planning a stop in palmyra along the way
21:31.26TimRikersweet! need a place to crash? my parents are like 30 minutes away.
21:33.06tdeforestreally?! i'm actually going to be staying at my grandparents old house that has been converted to a B&B
21:33.34tdeforesthttp://www.smallandsimplethings.org/blog/2012/03/dills-run-bb/
21:33.51TimRikeryour grandparents live near there? or just rent a house there? my parents have been in the same house there for 50 years now.
21:34.23tdeforestmy grandparents lived there a long time ago. we visited them in the summers
21:35.22tdeforestmy parents grew up in the finger lakes area
21:36.36tdeforestthis is my grandparent's former home: http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=dills+run+aurora+ny&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=36.505383,56.25&ie=UTF8&ll=42.841486,-76.686974&spn=0.132125,0.219727&z=12&iwloc=A&cid=42804454,-76703717,16510079924179940960&source=embed
21:37.20TimRikerneat! members? probably the Lyons Branch?
21:37.40tdeforestnope. my parents are the first members in our family
21:39.23TimRikerkewel. my parents too. my dad's family lived around Canandaigua for many years. my parents are up near Rochester.
21:39.45TimRikerhmm. can't get to maps.lds.org
21:39.49tdeforestgotcha
21:41.43TimRikerhmm Auburn Ward. never been to that one.
21:43.25TimRikerSyracuse Stake, so outside our stake boundaries.
21:43.45tdeforesthopefully the weather will cooperate :)
21:44.25TimRikerplanning a temple trip? my parents are temple workers.
21:45.48Jazzee8845kwl
21:46.18tdeforestsweet! no but a temple trip would be awesome
21:47.53tdeforestwe are looking forward to being close to a temple again once we reach utah. such a blessing
21:48.10scgallafentWhere is your nearest temple now?
21:48.29Jazzee88453 hours  away in london
21:48.32Jazzee8845i live in wales
21:48.59tdeforestboston
21:49.01tdeforest3 hours
21:49.16Jazzee8845high fives tdeforest
21:49.23tdeforest:D
21:50.02tdeforestwe're lucky. before it was the DC temple 12-13 hours
21:50.27tdeforestboston temple was built in 2006 i think
21:50.32tccastaldoThat's crazy.  I haven't lived more than an hour away from a temple for more than 15 years.
21:50.43scgallafentThat's a loooong trip to DC through that corridor.
21:50.58Jazzee8845prasies tccastaldo
21:51.22tccastaldoI lived a half away from the Denver Temple...then I live about five minutes away from the Rexburg Temple...
21:51.41Jazzee8845looping trip from wales - london - wales is 6 hours traveling
21:51.50tdeforestindeed. my wife made the trip by bus when she was a youth for baptisms. they drove down, did work, drove back!
21:51.53tccastaldo...right now, I'm less than half an hour away from the Jordan River temple.
21:52.08Jazzee8845~temples
21:52.35Jazzee8845wow! infobot dont know temples
21:52.51tdeforestsuspects that won't last long
21:53.09Jazzee8845~ temples
21:53.14tccastaldoI even had a temple on my mission.
21:53.37tccastaldoBut it ended up being more than an hour away because of the Manila traffic.
21:54.20tdeforesti served in japan. never even saw the tokyo temple :( maybe someday
21:54.25Jazzee8845i am seeing what goaspel things infobot brings up funny
21:54.27tccastaldo:(
21:54.40tccastaldoThere are three temples in Japan now, I believe.
21:55.40tdeforestright you are tccastaldo : http://www.lds.org/church/temples/find-a-temple?lang=eng
21:56.28Jazzee8845none in wales :'(
21:56.57Jazzee8845oh happy st'davids day!!!!!!
21:58.02tccastaldo...
21:58.11Jazzee8845go on google
21:58.16tccastaldo~wikipedia St. David's Day
21:58.47tccastaldoOkay.  Happy St. David's Day!
21:58.58tccastaldoMarch 1 every year?
21:59.02Jazzee8845yes
21:59.24Jazzee8845we in wales have welsh cakes
21:59.37Jazzee8845~welsh cakes
21:59.56Jazzee8845~wikipedia welsh cakes
22:00.53Jazzee8845~ingredents for welsh cakes
22:01.30Jazzee8845do you know what a leek is?
22:01.37tccastaldoYes.
22:01.50Jazzee8845thaT is welsh :)
22:01.59Jazzee8845daffidols ?
22:02.16tccastaldoYep.
22:02.23Jazzee8845welsh  :)
22:02.28tccastaldo:)
22:02.41Jazzee8845donny osmond?
22:04.00Jazzee8845does infobot translate?
22:05.04Jazzee8845you want to know
22:05.12Jazzee8845the longest word in welsh
22:05.23tccastaldoSure
22:05.26Jazzee8845~longest word in welsh
22:05.34Jazzee8845ok
22:05.53Jazzee8845Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
22:06.16tccastaldoAnd how do I say that?
22:06.18Jazzee8845that is a place in wales :)
22:07.02scgallafenthttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ae/Cy-Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.ogg
22:07.33Jazzee8845~wikipedia Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch
22:08.39Jazzee8845you watched the rugby world cup last year?
22:08.49tccastaldoNo, actually.
22:09.06Jazzee8845wales did good
22:09.09tccastaldoRugby is a (very) minor sport in the States.
22:09.16Jazzee8845never!
22:09.30Jazzee8845we cant go with out missing the rugby here!
22:10.47Jazzee8845i will tell you if we win the grand slam :)
22:11.00Jazzee8845~wikipedia grand slam
22:11.50Jazzee8845~wikipedia six nations
22:13.10Jazzee8845ok I am off tccastaldo, tdeforest, TimRiker and smootar see you tomoz at 4pm GMT
22:13.47Jazzee8845and also see you tomoz scgallafent, tomjohnson
22:13.48tccastaldoActually, TimRiker, smootar, and I won't be here much tomorrow.  We're having an office activity.
22:14.04tccastaldoBut we will see you again next week (if you're here).
22:14.11scgallafentDid The Thing™ get rescheduled for tomorrow?
22:14.12tccastaldoHave a good night, Jazzee8845.
22:14.34tccastaldoYes, the Thing® is happening tomorrow.
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22:14.59scgallafentHope you have a great time.
22:16.33tccastaldoWe'll miss you, scgallafent!
22:16.48scgallafentTHanks.
22:49.31TimRikerwell, which is it? ® or ™ ?
22:50.03tccastaldoIt's been in the works for so long now, I was almost positive it had been registered.
22:50.08tccastaldoI could be wrong, though.
22:50.14TimRiker©®™
22:50.26tccastaldoUh, oh...
22:51.37tccastaldohears the sirens from the intellectual property police getting louder.
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23:06.57TimRikerscgallafent, what's the word on pushing groups?
23:34.51TimRikerlooks over the code, and pushed to production. if I broke something, shoot me.
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