| 00:03.12 | tccastaldo | LOL |
| 00:07.30 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, Java doesn't NEED to be this way. |
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| 00:13.40 | tccastaldo | Having fun yet, TimRiker? |
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| 00:23.20 | tccastaldo | FYI I wrote a (very) short script to start Mongo on my local machine so I didn't have to remember/type in the path every time. |
| 00:24.22 | TimRiker | nods. headed home. |
| 01:00.48 | tccastaldo | I'm out. I'll be in the office tomorrow, smootar, barring emergency. |
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| 15:32.32 | tccastaldo | Good morning. |
| 15:32.50 | tccastaldo | How was training for those who went? |
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| 15:50.52 | smootar | moin TimRiker |
| 15:51.19 | smootar | Since I have that training today and tomorrow. Can you run our stand-up at 9AM both today and tomorrow? |
| 15:51.32 | TimRiker | wonders how long he'll stay online today |
| 15:51.42 | TimRiker | sure |
| 15:51.48 | TimRiker | having fun? :) |
| 15:51.48 | tccastaldo | wonders the same thing |
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| 15:54.52 | chriswhite | good morning |
| 15:55.11 | smootar | Good morning chriswhite |
| 15:55.17 | scgallafent | Good morning chriswhite |
| 15:55.37 | tccastaldo | Good morning, chriswhite |
| 15:55.38 | chriswhite | thanks.... what is your name ? |
| 15:55.52 | chriswhite | I am at a slight disadvantage with most of you ! |
| 15:56.06 | tccastaldo | (TimRiker, I think it's your turn.) |
| 15:56.21 | TimRiker | passes |
| 15:56.25 | chriswhite | mine is chris white :) |
| 15:56.39 | chriswhite | I know ALan's... |
| 15:57.05 | TimRiker | and mine I assume. :) |
| 15:57.11 | chriswhite | LOL... now I do ! |
| 15:57.13 | smootar | smootar = Smoot Alan R. |
| 15:57.19 | smootar | TimRiker, is "Tim Riker" |
| 15:57.37 | tccastaldo | T. C. Castaldo |
| 15:57.37 | chriswhite | ahh ... context and form adds vakue .. abd .. understanding |
| 15:57.47 | smootar | :) |
| 15:58.11 | scgallafent | smootar: I didn't hear from you yesterday, so I'm assuming we're still trying to get with Julie.? |
| 15:58.12 | smootar | I'm heading to a training this morning. Will be there all day. TimRiker will run our meeting. |
| 15:58.22 | scgallafent | scgallafent = Steve Gallafent |
| 15:58.32 | chriswhite | t.c. castaldo would have thrown me ... out of context .... expected castaldotc |
| 15:58.37 | smootar | scgallafent, that is correct. Our training went later than expected. |
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| 15:58.55 | scgallafent | OK. Just let me know when. You should be able to reach me by phone if I'm not here. |
| 15:59.14 | tccastaldo | Hi there, zakzakattack. |
| 15:59.49 | TimRiker | ok, shall we kick smootar out and get started? (oops, did I say that out loud?) |
| 16:00.07 | scgallafent | :) |
| 16:00.11 | TimRiker | ugh.. phone. |
| 16:00.12 | zakzakattack | hi |
| 16:00.12 | tccastaldo | No, actually, you didn't. ;) |
| 16:00.26 | chriswhite | heheh |
| 16:00.58 | tdeforest | chriswhite: i'm tom deforest |
| 16:01.32 | tccastaldo | hears smootar leave...hears TimRiker on the phone...sees we're one minute late... |
| 16:01.36 | chriswhite | Hello Tom |
| 16:01.56 | chriswhite | looks like TC is the man with the watch.. |
| 16:02.02 | scgallafent | Watch the mice mutiny! |
| 16:02.03 | tccastaldo | *************************************************************************************************************** |
| 16:02.12 | tccastaldo | ******************************************************************************** |
| 16:02.26 | tccastaldo | LDSTech Meeting 01/18/12 |
| 16:02.31 | tccastaldo | ************************************************************************************ |
| 16:02.43 | tccastaldo | smootar does it better. |
| 16:02.48 | tccastaldo | sighs |
| 16:02.55 | scgallafent | I think he has a cut-and-paste template. |
| 16:03.03 | TimRiker | hangs up and nods... |
| 16:03.31 | TimRiker | ok... lets get started. guess I'll start... we had a final (probably) meeting with prokarma yesterday. |
| 16:03.46 | TimRiker | a few issues were resolved last night that need testing. |
| 16:03.58 | TimRiker | I'll test, perhaps fix some more, and push to production today. |
| 16:04.22 | TimRiker | that should finish up the project as far as they are concerned. |
| 16:04.41 | chriswhite | .____ ________ _________ _______________________________ ___ ___ |
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| 16:04.49 | TimRiker | there are still a ton off issues that should work different, but things are working as speced, more or less. |
| 16:05.06 | tccastaldo | w00t! |
| 16:05.48 | TimRiker | I suppose I should get back to some other project, but I'm not sure what. =/ |
| 16:06.07 | TimRiker | planning for the conference is underway and we need to get the scheduler up soon. |
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| 16:06.38 | TimRiker | correlation wants a full month to review papers and materials. that means we need to move quickly |
| 16:07.03 | TimRiker | that's it for me. tccastaldo want to go next? |
| 16:07.12 | tccastaldo | Yes, sir. |
| 16:07.42 | tccastaldo | Yesterday I participated in the ProKarma call and also looked at remaining issues with scheduler. |
| 16:08.16 | tccastaldo | I read about how to export events to Google Calendar. |
| 16:08.47 | tccastaldo | I also tried to get my dev enviroment working with scheduler. |
| 16:08.58 | tccastaldo | Basically the same thing I've been doing for about a week now. |
| 16:09.20 | tccastaldo | Once scheduler is pulled out of our hands I'm not sure what I'll be doing next. |
| 16:09.53 | TimRiker | don't worry. we'll find you something. :) |
| 16:09.58 | tccastaldo | That's all for my report today, I guess. |
| 16:10.05 | TimRiker | kk. scgallafent? |
| 16:10.06 | tccastaldo | I'm not worried at all. :) |
| 16:10.16 | scgallafent | tdeforest did some testing on Google Groups on Monday and I worked through some of the issues he came across. |
| 16:10.16 | scgallafent | We did some more work on it yesterday and got to the point where we had TimRiker looking at mail delivery issues from cdev to the groups. |
| 16:10.16 | scgallafent | I had to leave yesterday afternoon, so I'm not sure how much progress TimRiker made on the mail delivery issues. |
| 16:10.16 | scgallafent | I'm going to work on some of the other LDSTECH Jira issues related to mail while I'm in that frame of mind. |
| 16:10.16 | scgallafent | I didn't spend much time yesterday working on getting Scheduler running on my machine. Is there enough to be done on that project to justify the effort to get it fired up? |
| 16:10.17 | scgallafent | smootar and I are trying to arrange a meeting to address some of the recprop issues. |
| 16:10.48 | tccastaldo | Whoa -- that's some quick typing! |
| 16:10.54 | scgallafent | can cut and paste, too |
| 16:10.58 | TimRiker | scgallafent, I got a "could not send" message from the internal relay. I'll forward it to you and open a ticket on it here. |
| 16:11.14 | scgallafent | OK. I'll work on some of the other items while we wait on that ticket. |
| 16:11.28 | scgallafent | Issues holding up GGroups: |
| 16:11.36 | scgallafent | * Remaining testing |
| 16:11.43 | scgallafent | * Mail delivery from server to groups |
| 16:11.57 | scgallafent | * Access to Google Groups Settings API (requires special request to Google) |
| 16:12.00 | TimRiker | scheduler has some design issues. talks/papers linked by full name instead of ldsaccountid, two fields for ldsaccountid, no dropdown for emails, etc. |
| 16:12.19 | scgallafent | Should I go ahead and beat on it until I can get it running? |
| 16:12.31 | TimRiker | if you're blocked on gg issues, then sure. |
| 16:12.34 | scgallafent | There is some time investment involved there, or so tccastaldo tells me. |
| 16:12.35 | scgallafent | OK |
| 16:13.00 | scgallafent | The Google Groups Settings API is different from the provisioning API that I've been using. I put a request in, but it takes about a week. |
| 16:13.05 | scgallafent | That's it for me. |
| 16:13.08 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, was running it locally, but it may have broken. I'm still not running it locally. cdev does auto-build though. |
| 16:13.14 | TimRiker | k |
| 16:13.22 | tccastaldo | If not time then definitely pain. |
| 16:13.25 | TimRiker | tdeforest? |
| 16:13.53 | tdeforest | tested gg with scgallafent. making good progress there despite the mail hangups |
| 16:14.17 | tdeforest | i'll be working on getting the email invite ready for the conference. |
| 16:14.36 | tdeforest | i want to have that ready for when alan gives the signal that the scheduler is ready for prime time |
| 16:14.53 | tdeforest | will be working on other artwork for the conference as well |
| 16:14.57 | tdeforest | that is all |
| 16:16.12 | TimRiker | k. hopefully we'll have a production scheduler deploy today. still could use changes, but it's better than it was. |
| 16:16.30 | tccastaldo | Definitely. |
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| 16:17.06 | TimRiker | k. who's next? dlhace? |
| 16:17.29 | chriswhite_ | when is the conference |
| 16:17.36 | TimRiker | mar 29-30 |
| 16:17.45 | TimRiker | zakzakattack? |
| 16:17.57 | chriswhite_ | thanks |
| 16:18.19 | zakzakattack | Nope nothing from me |
| 16:18.58 | TimRiker | kk. anyone else? smootar has training today and tomorrow, so he won't be around much. email is best. |
| 16:19.42 | chriswhite_ | I guess the webclient isn't as friendly as the client for IRC ...I keep getting errors today |
| 16:19.57 | dlhace | I have escalated a server build for the swarm stuff and I am escalating Tom's VPN problem |
| 16:20.34 | TimRiker | dlhace, no word on either yet? how's the server queue looking now? still a large backlog? |
| 16:20.37 | tdeforest | w00t! |
| 16:21.06 | dlhace | yes, still a large backlog |
| 16:21.46 | TimRiker | k. keep us posted. I really should get to our redhat box sometime soon. |
| 16:22.24 | TimRiker | chriswhite_, want to introduce yourself? |
| 16:23.20 | TimRiker | dlhace, note: scheduler deploys to integration are failing now. |
| 16:23.35 | TimRiker | Caused by: org.lds.stack.tcat.util.FatalDeploymentException: applib/ directory didn't exist on SCHEDULER_INT_5504, and an attempt to create it failed (likely becuase you are using an old verison of the Tcat Console). |
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| 16:23.53 | chriswhite | I really need to down load the IRC client .. as the webclient keeps dropping me .. |
| 16:23.55 | dlhace | more likely you are out of disk space |
| 16:24.03 | scgallafent | Didn't I read someone ranting yesterday about a PHP scheduler? <gd&r> |
| 16:24.07 | chriswhite | I am chris white, and I am on a 18-24 month service mission. |
| 16:24.28 | chriswhite | I have been asked ( in nov..) to be the project manager for the WEB OS mobile apps |
| 16:24.30 | TimRiker | dlhace, that's it exactly! |
| 16:25.37 | chriswhite | ... I work for Hewlett Packard ( 20 years...) and since the web-os apps don't fill alo tof the time I have to give towards my service mission, alan wants to bring me into other projects he is working on |
| 16:25.46 | chriswhite | is that enough of a intro ? |
| 16:26.06 | TimRiker | sure! how are the webos apps coming? I've not messed with them. |
| 16:26.20 | TimRiker | is there a webos store? are our apps in there? which ones? |
| 16:26.29 | chriswhite | Ios and Android are comign along nicely.. |
| 16:26.59 | TimRiker | yep, I have ios and android devices. just not a webos device. |
| 16:27.09 | chriswhite | lots of cuurent material .. and each of the apps appear to have the competitveness to out do each other ... which is good, as well as have the comradery to help each other when the other has a cool idea .. and share... |
| 16:27.39 | chriswhite | web os is now going to be open sourced.... and HP is leadign the charge on that |
| 16:27.45 | TimRiker | :) |
| 16:27.57 | tccastaldo | Wow. |
| 16:28.20 | chriswhite | WEB os development has been dead for 8-9 months before I came onboard except soem content updates ... and I am tryign to revive it , asd it will be a viable platform going forward |
| 16:28.58 | TimRiker | s/will/may/ imho |
| 16:29.09 | chriswhite | in otherwords .. it could replace.. .net development for some companies for app, fw and middleware .. and be MUCH more stable .. |
| 16:29.43 | TimRiker | webos is a better os than android, but it'll be an uphill battle. |
| 16:30.05 | chriswhite | other than that .. Alan invited me to these multi day meeting each week to see if I could be of any assistance |
| 16:30.26 | chriswhite | android is better as well as ios ... because of APP development ... |
| 16:30.38 | dlhace | Tom contact me on separate IM |
| 16:30.46 | chriswhite | web os is much more multithreaded, and a lot more robust |
| 16:30.55 | TimRiker | read up on "Tizen" ? that's another possibility. with google trying to buy into the mobile space, it will be interesting to see if the other manufacturers rebel. |
| 16:31.15 | TimRiker | ok.. I guess we're done with the morning meeting. thanx to all! |
| 16:31.29 | tccastaldo | **************************************************************************************************** |
| 16:31.41 | tccastaldo | LDSTech Meeting END |
| 16:31.43 | chriswhite | well web os .. will be free .. so it will be hard for other vendors to justify paying for stuff .. when it can be free |
| 16:31.46 | tccastaldo | ************************************************************************************* |
| 16:31.53 | chriswhite | thanks Tim |
| 16:31.55 | TimRiker | smiles at the banner. should really add an ibot command for that. |
| 16:32.23 | TimRiker | chriswhite, agreed. but if you believe the hype, android is free too. /me laughs |
| 16:32.23 | tccastaldo | OOOOO, that would be great, TimRiker! |
| 16:32.46 | chriswhite | take care guys ! |
| 16:33.03 | TimRiker | we'll stay here, feel free to hang out and chat anytime! |
| 16:33.14 | chriswhite | ok ... I will keep the window open ! |
| 16:33.17 | zakzakattack | ************************************************ ***** End - LDSTech Meeting - 18 JAN 2012 ****** |
| 16:33.17 | zakzakattack | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:33.31 | zakzakattack | i tried to do it:( |
| 16:33.31 | scgallafent | chriswhite: Which OS are you on? |
| 16:33.39 | chriswhite | how else do you guys communicate .... skype, OC, facebook, other venues ? |
| 16:33.51 | chriswhite | Right now on tis machine I am on win7 |
| 16:33.55 | scgallafent | Try AdiIRC. |
| 16:34.15 | scgallafent | used to have Skype open all of the time, but it's been having ... issues ... lately |
| 16:34.23 | TimRiker | xchat is what I use. more info on the irc wiki page. |
| 16:34.56 | TimRiker | http://tech.lds.org/wiki/IRC |
| 16:34.58 | chriswhite | ..issues .... nice ... ... way to be polite ! |
| 16:35.18 | chriswhite | .... @tim ... checking it out right now |
| 16:36.20 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:39.42 | chriswhite | @tim .. sent you a skype invite |
| 16:40.17 | tdeforest | chriswhite: https://tech.lds.org/wiki/User:Tdeforest |
| 16:40.34 | TimRiker | replies |
| 16:41.37 | TimRiker | dlhace, freed up space, but still failing. |
| 16:41.38 | chriswhite | I am thehpguy on most things |
| 16:41.57 | chriswhite | .. I am even thehpguy@hp.com .... that was hard to pull off ... |
| 16:42.02 | chriswhite | on skype as well |
| 16:42.12 | TimRiker | [ERROR] conf/backup/ directory didn't exist on SCHEDULER_INT_5504, and an attempt to create it failed (likely becuase you are using an old verison of the Tcat Console). |
| 16:42.20 | chriswhite | @tom ... I added you to skype as well |
| 16:42.51 | tccastaldo | chriswhite, that IS impressive. |
| 16:43.19 | TimRiker | used to be tim@ti.com |
| 16:43.20 | tccastaldo | Meaning the "thehpguy@hp.com". |
| 16:45.43 | tccastaldo | smiles as scheduler is FINALLY behaving on his local machine |
| 16:47.39 | TimRiker | java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: org.apache.catalina.startup.Catalina |
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| 16:50.06 | tccastaldo | I accidentally deleted my server yesterday and tried to just add a new Tomcat 6.0 server, TimRiker, and that's the same error I got. |
| 16:50.51 | tccastaldo | I had to kill my workplace and re-checkout the project; then the server came back. |
| 16:51.23 | tccastaldo | s/workplace/workspace/ |
| 16:51.46 | tccastaldo | If I had killed my workplace the ROB would no longer exist. |
| 16:53.51 | TimRiker | is glad tccastaldo didn't kill his workplace |
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| 16:56.46 | TimRiker | the bouncing begins |
| 16:56.46 | tccastaldo | That was more than an hour, TimRiker. |
| 16:56.50 | tdeforest | josephscott: howdy |
| 16:57.33 | josephscott | hi |
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| 16:58.38 | chriswhite | OK ... Got xchat |
| 16:59.01 | thehpguy | Here is Chris White on the xchat client |
| 17:00.48 | tccastaldo | Welcome to xchat, thehpguy. |
| 17:01.14 | TimRiker | restores more files on cdev conf and tries again |
| 17:01.21 | thehpguy | Thanks .. thehpguy ... is Chris White .. just an FYI |
| 17:01.49 | tccastaldo | Yes, but if I say Chris White, the message doesn't highlight. |
| 17:01.52 | josephscott | troubles with cdev? |
| 17:01.55 | TimRiker | thehpguy =) note: you can register your nick by talking to NickServ. /msg NickServ help to get started. |
| 17:01.57 | thehpguy | AHHHH |
| 17:02.06 | tccastaldo | But if I say thehpguy, it does. |
| 17:02.08 | thehpguy | I haven't used IRC in .. 25+ years ... |
| 17:02.10 | thehpguy | :) |
| 17:02.16 | TimRiker | oh, /me meant cint. cdev is fine. |
| 17:03.42 | josephscott | thehpguy: 25 years? man, you must have been a super early adopter |
| 17:03.51 | thehpguy | LOL.... Indeed |
| 17:04.02 | thehpguy | it was on non screened devices .. |
| 17:04.02 | josephscott | it would have only been what, a year or so old back then? |
| 17:04.08 | thehpguy | MAINFRAMES .. and UNIX boxes !! |
| 17:04.21 | thehpguy | I started programing on PDP 1145/36's |
| 17:04.34 | thehpguy | .... if that gives away my age .. |
| 17:04.58 | TimRiker | k. https://cint.lds.org/conf/ is up. |
| 17:04.59 | thehpguy | The years would have been in 87-89 or so .. |
| 17:05.32 | thehpguy | Unsure when IRC got it's first start |
| 17:05.42 | TimRiker | http://rikers.org/gallery/hardware/20050615_012504 <- my mini museum |
| 17:05.51 | josephscott | I think most people put the beginning of IRC at the summer of 88 |
| 17:05.53 | thehpguy | so how do I register my nick ? |
| 17:06.42 | thehpguy | I used IRC as I was finishing up my masters in college ... and IRC was JUST coming out |
| 17:07.04 | TimRiker | irc started around '88 iirc |
| 17:07.11 | thehpguy | otherwise except for soem brief times durign the early 90's ....using IRC... never used it much passed that |
| 17:07.21 | TimRiker | start with /msg NickServ help |
| 17:07.36 | thehpguy | where do I type that ? |
| 17:07.49 | TimRiker | in the window you are typing in now. |
| 17:07.57 | thehpguy | lol.. sorry |
| 17:08.02 | TimRiker | or you can /query NickServ to get a new tab (in xchat) |
| 17:08.14 | thehpguy | sorry fro beign dumb .. retaking my first steps after a 20+ year old coma ! |
| 17:08.20 | TimRiker | np |
| 17:09.11 | thehpguy | . msg nickserv register |
| 17:11.12 | TimRiker | need /msg :) |
| 17:11.41 | thehpguy | exit |
| 17:11.42 | TimRiker | register will want an email and a password. best not to send those to the public channel... :) |
| 17:11.48 | tdeforest | there is now one less mouse in the world |
| 17:11.50 | dlhace | Tim is there a place that describes what the numbers in ldsPosv2 mean? |
| 17:12.39 | TimRiker | dlhace, not a definitive list that I'm aware of. There are a few in the phpstack. techgurufloyd had a larger list, but I don't have a copy of that. |
| 17:13.02 | TimRiker | https://code.lds.org/wsvn/wsvn/phpstack/trunk/MLUService.defines.php |
| 17:14.35 | tccastaldo | thehpguy, try /quit to exit. |
| 17:14.54 | tccastaldo | If that's what you wanted to do. |
| 17:15.44 | thehpguy | just playing around ... getting used to the walls and windows in IRC |
| 17:15.52 | thehpguy | ... been awhile |
| 17:16.02 | thehpguy | even has embeded XML ... |
| 17:16.05 | thehpguy | kewl... |
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| 17:21.56 | thehpguy | Ok ... figured out proper switches and order... |
| 17:22.02 | thehpguy | .. registered nick ,.. |
| 17:22.06 | thehpguy | man .. I feel stupid ... |
| 17:22.31 | TimRiker | nah. it's not exactly intuitive |
| 17:22.52 | tccastaldo | agrees |
| 17:23.42 | thehpguy | as I said earlier ... it will take me some tiem to adjust ... |
| 17:26.25 | TimRiker | dlhace, how do I do a scheduler deploy to production? |
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| 17:30.34 | TimRiker | swaps ethernet ports to see if his phone likes the other jack |
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| 17:32.00 | thehpguy | Hello Kathryn |
| 17:32.09 | Kathryn | Hello! |
| 17:32.28 | thehpguy | I am chris White .... a newbie ... |
| 17:32.36 | Kathryn | Hi Chris, welcome! |
| 17:32.45 | thehpguy | tima and TC can vouch for my ... newbieness.... |
| 17:32.58 | thehpguy | :) |
| 17:33.01 | Kathryn | ha ha :) We all have to start somewhere! |
| 17:33.22 | Kathryn | @TimRiker, do you have a minute for a couple of questions? |
| 17:33.30 | thehpguy | for me .. it is more like coming out of a 25 year coma ... rather than being a newbie |
| 17:33.38 | Kathryn | That works too :) |
| 17:33.53 | TimRiker | Kathryn, sure. hit me. |
| 17:34.23 | TimRiker | The schema changes in email look ok to me. if we need more accuracy, then that looks like a plan. |
| 17:34.31 | Kathryn | Read my mind :) |
| 17:34.44 | Kathryn | Can we let Hyrum make those changes, or do you need to? |
| 17:34.52 | Kathryn | I'm fine either way, but thinking if he makes them it saves you some time. |
| 17:34.56 | TimRiker | The historical tracking does not really worry me much. we should be exporting reports to email or something, and we can get them from there. |
| 17:35.30 | Kathryn | I think the concern is more that once the BRD and RVF are overwritten, all old reports become inaccurate, but a person wouldn't know that from just looking at them. |
| 17:35.37 | TimRiker | does he need anything from me? you have the mysql login info, yes? feel free to pass that on. |
| 17:36.02 | TimRiker | I'd make the changes on cdev/l0757 first and then push to production when it's tested. |
| 17:36.10 | Kathryn | Sounds great. I'll let him know. |
| 17:36.30 | Kathryn | The other item is to follow up on the new UE server for which you kindly are serving as ASE. |
| 17:36.43 | Kathryn | (Is ASE the right acronym?) Anyway, Keoni wanted to know about... |
| 17:36.47 | Kathryn | I forgot the term. Just a second... |
| 17:36.58 | TimRiker | it's up to the group to decide if we need to track old brd/rvf values. it would be useful, but is it worth the effort? I dunno. |
| 17:37.10 | Kathryn | Yeah--I agree, the group has to decide. |
| 17:37.26 | Kathryn | Keoni wants to know what OU to put our new server in. Can you recommend something? |
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| 17:41.30 | TimRiker | well, I'm a semi-ASE. :) dlhace is a normal ASE. well, perhaps not normal. LOL |
| 17:41.56 | tccastaldo | Good morning, JoshBang. How was class? |
| 17:42.07 | thehpguy | Hello Josh |
| 17:42.42 | JoshBang | Hey guys, class was awesome. learning about the classic slope intercept |
| 17:42.46 | JoshBang | super easy |
| 17:42.48 | thehpguy | OU=TIMROCKS |
| 17:43.26 | tccastaldo | FYI, JoshBang, thehpguy = Chris White. |
| 17:43.35 | thehpguy | :) |
| 17:43.45 | thehpguy | Maybe I should chnage my Nick |
| 17:43.47 | JoshBang | haha yeah, I was wondering who that was |
| 17:44.17 | thehpguy | I just figured if ya right click on my nick.. it can tell you who I am ... |
| 17:44.31 | JoshBang | Thats waht I did |
| 17:44.34 | tccastaldo | True. |
| 17:44.47 | tccastaldo | I guess you didn't need my help :'( |
| 17:44.57 | JoshBang | tccastaldo, its the thought that counts |
| 17:45.14 | thehpguy | LOL.... I am the newbie ... so he was helping me out .. |
| 17:48.27 | TimRiker | /whois thehpguy will tell ya more |
| 17:49.14 | TimRiker | dlhace, how do I deploy to production? |
| 17:49.54 | dlhace | Iyou mean for scheduler? |
| 17:50.22 | dlhace | I will need to configure it, Or I guess I could guy you through it so you would know |
| 17:50.40 | dlhace | guide not guy |
| 17:51.43 | dlhace | first see if you can login into https://chqpvul5238:8443/console/login.jsp |
| 17:51.53 | dlhace | that will be a requirement to deploy |
| 17:52.12 | TimRiker | just sent in an email on this... /me tries |
| 17:53.06 | TimRiker | dlhace, logged in ok. |
| 17:53.30 | TimRiker | I don't see a scheduler group so far. |
| 17:54.33 | TimRiker | I don't see l5488 listed by name or ip |
| 17:56.03 | TimRiker | adds l5488 |
| 18:01.34 | TimRiker | dlhace, ok. added a SCHEDULER group with l5488:8480 in it. now what? :) |
| 18:03.01 | dlhace | Once the group is created and you have added the agent to the console, you should be able to deploy through anthill the same as the other environments |
| 18:03.32 | dlhace | oh and I should add, added the server to the group |
| 18:04.45 | TimRiker | yep did that. dennis granted me access. not sure it'll pick the right console to deploy from, but giving it a try. |
| 18:06.12 | TimRiker | seems to be picking the right console. |
| 18:06.43 | TimRiker | pushing, restarting.... |
| 18:12.21 | tdeforest | dlhace: did you have an update for me? |
| 18:12.38 | TimRiker | dlhace, pushed ok. new scheduler is up in production. :) |
| 18:12.45 | dlhace | Let me send you a message |
| 18:13.09 | dlhace | tdeforest, I can't seem to send you a message in IM |
| 18:13.21 | dlhace | it just comes back and say you are not avaible |
| 18:13.42 | tdeforest | communicator is one of the worst pieces of software i've ever used |
| 18:14.00 | tdeforest | how about sending me a /msg in irc? |
| 18:16.01 | tdeforest | dlhace: i just messaged you via communicator. did you receive it? |
| 18:17.01 | dlhace | I got your message but cannot send back |
| 18:17.15 | tdeforest | weird. i see an email |
| 18:17.16 | dlhace | it says "This message was not delivered to Tom DeForest because one or more recipients are offline:" |
| 18:17.45 | TimRiker | perhaps you're having ethernet issues? oh, no. that's me. :/ |
| 18:19.26 | tdeforest | dlhace: I've called the global service desk several times. I don't have a ticket number. I guess i can call them again |
| 18:20.18 | tdeforest | dlhace: thanks for doing what you could. at least now i can tell them the problem is squarely in their court |
| 18:21.05 | tdeforest | i've also worked with the TSRs on this issue more than once |
| 18:22.50 | TimRiker | hmm. scheduler nukes email/gender in production. |
| 18:23.46 | tdeforest | TimRiker: ouch |
| 18:23.58 | tdeforest | that'll leave a scar |
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| 18:28.33 | TimRiker | feels genderless |
| 18:37.12 | TimRiker | hmm. one deploy works, the next fails. |
| 18:38.23 | TimRiker | retry seems to be working.... |
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| 19:10.17 | TimRiker | great. bouncing on the other ethernet port now |
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| 19:31.01 | TimRiker | tries deploying to production again |
| 19:32.45 | TimRiker | To provide you with the best offers available, the system is currently down for routine maintenance. This interruption is only temporary. |
| 19:33.04 | TimRiker | I'm missing how that provides me with the best offers available. |
| 19:33.06 | tccastaldo | shakes his head at the maze of code that is scheduler. |
| 19:34.01 | tccastaldo | I love the descriptive variable name "s". |
| 19:34.44 | scgallafent | Now you see why I prefer self-documenting code. |
| 19:36.41 | tccastaldo | Descriptive variable names help but they aren't enough. |
| 19:37.03 | scgallafent | Yes. "s" doesn't qualify as descriptive. |
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| 19:44.46 | thehpguy | so I guess it wasn't just me that keeps droping ... looks like Tim is makign a habit of it ? |
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| 19:46.42 | TimRiker | if ya'll get a chance, resave your profile here https://tech.lds.org/conf/ |
| 19:49.14 | thehpguy | So what is a conference like |
| 19:49.58 | TimRiker | 1/2 day of presentations, lunch, 1/2 day of work sessions, repeat for next day. |
| 19:50.20 | thehpguy | what are the presentations on ? |
| 19:50.44 | TimRiker | tdeforest, can you upload a conference logo to production? I'm not sure it shows anywhere, but it should work. |
| 19:51.25 | TimRiker | java stack, mobile development, qa tools, different lds applications like mobile, mlsweb, calendar, directory, etc. |
| 19:51.57 | thehpguy | cool |
| 19:52.18 | TimRiker | probably have some meetinghouse technology presentations. wifi in the meetinghouse? video conferencing? something like that. |
| 19:52.39 | scgallafent | Here's the page for last year's conference: |
| 19:52.42 | scgallafent | http://tech.lds.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=317&Itemid=34 |
| 19:52.51 | scgallafent | likes long descriptive URIs |
| 19:53.11 | thehpguy | Someone likes tinyURl's ... |
| 19:53.12 | thehpguy | :) |
| 19:54.17 | tdeforest | TimRiker: i'll take a look at that |
| 19:54.29 | TimRiker | thehpguy, thx for registering. you should get an email too. no classes listed yet. Should start to show up soon. |
| 19:54.58 | thehpguy | thanks for letting me know of it .. |
| 19:55.00 | josephscott | guess I don't need to put no alcohol under "Special Dietary Needs" for this event |
| 19:55.06 | josephscott | is used to doing that for work |
| 19:55.09 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 19:55.09 | thehpguy | figured.. if you just got it up and running, you may have needed a tester |
| 19:55.11 | thehpguy | :) |
| 19:55.41 | scgallafent | josephscott: They haven't figured that out yet? |
| 19:56.13 | TimRiker | grants thehpguy, josephscott approver rights so they can watch the papers in progress. |
| 19:56.22 | josephscott | inside the company, yes, but they send on the dietary requirements to who ever is taking care of food and drink |
| 19:56.44 | josephscott | "Proxy Error" |
| 19:56.47 | josephscott | https://tech.lds.org/conf/register |
| 19:57.06 | TimRiker | neato |
| 19:57.09 | josephscott | I got a JS alert saying my profile had been saved, but the actual page load for the submit button returned that |
| 19:58.46 | TimRiker | hmm. can't duplicate that. I end up here: |
| 19:58.46 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/conf/register/update |
| 19:58.58 | scgallafent | Sounds like it's time for me to test it.... |
| 20:00.28 | josephscott | hmmm, tech.lds.org/conf/ takes me to the scheduler now |
| 20:00.43 | josephscott | so maybe it saved anyway? |
| 20:00.51 | josephscott | no email though :-( |
| 20:01.13 | TimRiker | hmm. profile edit fails in ie. nice |
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| 20:02.19 | TimRiker | ie complains about the showprofile return data |
| 20:02.41 | scgallafent | I got the JavaScript notification and then ... |
| 20:02.44 | scgallafent | waiting ... |
| 20:03.35 | scgallafent | waiting ... |
| 20:04.23 | scgallafent | No response. Going to click the register button again. |
| 20:04.46 | scgallafent | Got the JavaScript notification and then immediately got a proxy error. |
| 20:04.54 | scgallafent | The proxy server received an invalid response from an upstream server. |
| 20:04.54 | scgallafent | The proxy server could not handle the request POST /conf/register. |
| 20:04.54 | scgallafent | Reason: Error reading from remote server |
| 20:05.54 | josephscott | ~lart invalid response |
| 20:05.54 | infobot | takes a large goose feather pillow and swings it wildly in invalid response's direction, hitting invalid response and sending invalid response flying into the closet |
| 20:07.08 | TimRiker | js syntax error. firefox recovers, ie silently dies. |
| 20:08.46 | scgallafent | ~lart IE |
| 20:08.46 | infobot | blames IE for all the evil in the world |
| 20:09.10 | scgallafent | Hmmmmm. |
| 20:10.21 | TimRiker | waits for the auto-build-deploy to finish |
| 20:11.17 | TimRiker | cdev redeploying... |
| 20:19.13 | TimRiker | smootar reports that the attendees list does not display on an ipad |
| 20:19.46 | TimRiker | ie likes it |
| 20:21.53 | TimRiker | some testing on mobile devices would be good. |
| 20:22.37 | tccastaldo | I can do that. I only have about five of them here at my desk. |
| 20:22.55 | tccastaldo | The only thing I don't have, TimRiker, is an iToy. |
| 20:28.49 | scgallafent | Tried logging in on my Evo with the stock browser. tech.lds.org/conf redirected to LDS Account sign in and then to lds.org after signing in. |
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| 20:30.14 | scgallafent | Firefox on Evo does the same. |
| 20:30.32 | TimRiker | can you hit https://tech.lds.org/conf/ after logging in on https://tech.lds.org/ ? |
| 20:31.03 | scgallafent | Yes. Just testing in both browsers. |
| 20:31.27 | scgallafent | I get the schedule page for both. |
| 20:31.38 | scgallafent | Looks like I'm having lunch with TimRiker. |
| 20:31.59 | TimRiker | :) |
| 20:32.06 | tccastaldo | Looks like we all are, scgallafent. |
| 20:32.10 | tccastaldo | Join the party! |
| 20:32.21 | scgallafent | And here I thought I was special! |
| 20:32.58 | TimRiker | stops presenting lunch |
| 20:33.48 | tccastaldo | scgallafent, you ARE special. :) |
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| 20:38.23 | TimRiker | about every other deploy fails. dunno why. |
| 20:41.59 | scgallafent | Is the prior deployment complete when the second one fails? |
| 20:42.17 | TimRiker | yep |
| 20:43.09 | TimRiker | production deploy in progress |
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| 23:35.08 | tccastaldo | is struck with disbelief and wonders if scheduler's code was deliberately obfuscated |
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| 23:45.24 | tccastaldo | has an "Oh, THAT's what that means" moment |
| 23:56.28 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, what what means? |
| 23:56.55 | TimRiker | still can't get things building locally. nuking workspace and starting over. :( |
| 23:57.40 | tccastaldo | The variable sText == "search text" == the text people type into the search bar. |
| 23:59.02 | tccastaldo | Two minutes until 010001. |