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| 14:25.27 | tdeforest | i can't remember zak's full name. i'm trying to send him an email but can't find him in the directory. anybody know? |
| 14:25.35 | tdeforest | also, good morning :) |
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| 15:43.43 | tccastaldo | Good morning, all. |
| 15:47.28 | dbkjar | wlll tune in to the meeting after his commute |
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| 15:58.12 | tccastaldo | Good morning, zakzakattack. |
| 15:58.53 | zakzakattack | Morning tccastaldo! |
| 15:59.11 | smootar | moin all |
| 15:59.34 | smootar | *********************************************** |
| 15:59.35 | smootar | ***** Begin - LDSTech Meeting - 9 JAN 2012 **** |
| 15:59.35 | smootar | *********************************************** |
| 15:59.37 | smootar | Who is here? |
| 15:59.40 | scgallafent | moin |
| 15:59.43 | tccastaldo | Me |
| 15:59.44 | tdeforest | here |
| 15:59.53 | zakzakattack | me |
| 16:00.07 | tccastaldo | No JoshBang? |
| 16:00.27 | smootar | JoshBang started school this morning and will be coming a little later. |
| 16:01.18 | smootar | TimRiker will be here shortly. |
| 16:01.25 | smootar | He is talking to me at my desk. |
| 16:01.42 | smootar | scgallafent, do you want to start this morning? |
| 16:01.47 | scgallafent | OK |
| 16:01.58 | scgallafent | I got with Chetan on Friday and upgraded the Google Apps accounts. I started doing some testing and am configuring some options on the GApps accounts. |
| 16:02.21 | scgallafent | I got through a good chunk of the Google Groups code and committed it. I'll finish that today and it's ready for full-scale testing and abuse. |
| 16:02.33 | scgallafent | DNS records are also in place, so we've just got to do final testing and that is ready to go. |
| 16:02.42 | smootar | :) |
| 16:02.55 | smootar | zakzakattack, are you ready? |
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| 16:03.15 | zakzakattack | yes |
| 16:03.21 | scgallafent | There is some code in the project edit page that was put in for QA projects. That may need to be disabled. |
| 16:03.30 | smootar | TimRiker, scgallafent just announced we are for full scale testing of GG's. |
| 16:03.31 | TimRiker | stops complaining about the lds calendaring and joins the party. |
| 16:03.39 | TimRiker | woot! |
| 16:03.44 | smootar | s/we are/we are ready/ |
| 16:03.46 | scgallafent | noticed the calendar was less than responsive yesterday |
| 16:03.52 | TimRiker | are the old mailman lists converted? |
| 16:04.12 | scgallafent | Yes, but I haven't tested them yet. I'll send a message to this lists this morning. |
| 16:04.28 | TimRiker | nice. inform mark so he's aware. k? |
| 16:04.28 | scgallafent | If they're working, I'll let them know they're ready. |
| 16:04.31 | scgallafent | Yup. |
| 16:04.42 | scgallafent | That's probably enough for me today. |
| 16:04.48 | scgallafent | smootar: You got my email? |
| 16:04.56 | smootar | jog my memory of who mark is. |
| 16:05.01 | TimRiker | boyd |
| 16:05.08 | scgallafent | Mark owns three mailman lists that are being converted to GGroups. |
| 16:05.28 | scgallafent | They just kind of live there. |
| 16:05.30 | smootar | Yes, thanks. |
| 16:05.41 | smootar | :) |
| 16:05.52 | TimRiker | Some if not all of them are for wamulator. |
| 16:05.59 | smootar | memory jogged |
| 16:06.17 | scgallafent | That's it for me. |
| 16:06.22 | smootar | thx scgallafent |
| 16:06.31 | smootar | TimRiker, do you want to go next? |
| 16:07.22 | TimRiker | sure. spent too much time last week on the scheduler. it's up on cint, and an old version is up on cdev. still working on auto-deploy to cdev today. |
| 16:08.05 | TimRiker | I added city, ldsaccount, ldsaccountid to the userinfo, fixes quite a few bugs in javascript. I expect things are still broken in IE |
| 16:08.17 | TimRiker | as it's much more picky about javascript errors. |
| 16:08.51 | TimRiker | I wish we'd get out of the habit of sending web pages to the browser that are not yet filled in and then using javascript/json to fill them in. |
| 16:09.16 | TimRiker | when instead we could be using jsp pages as intended to fill in the fields _before_ sending them to the browser. |
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| 16:09.47 | TimRiker | fewer round trips, faster performance, less dependency on javascript, etc. ah well. |
| 16:10.12 | TimRiker | the live https://tech.lds.org/conf/ is up, but does NOT have the new ldsaccount additions. |
| 16:10.58 | TimRiker | linking to talks is still be display name (which is correctly display name instead of given name in cint, but _not_ yet in production) |
| 16:11.16 | TimRiker | I'm not sure how far we want to go before pushing a new release to the main site. |
| 16:12.00 | TimRiker | didn't get to whatever else I was planning to do on Thursday |
| 16:12.15 | TimRiker | just buried in scheduler now. so that's all for me. |
| 16:12.21 | TimRiker | oh, one more... |
| 16:12.53 | TimRiker | josephscott, larry and I met on Friday about ICP and did some good planning for the new release. |
| 16:13.21 | TimRiker | the old version is now partially wam enabled. I'll likely look at that today too as josephscott is traveling. |
| 16:13.28 | TimRiker | ok, that's enough for me. |
| 16:13.37 | smootar | thanks TimRiker for working on Scheduler even though java isn't his favorite. |
| 16:13.46 | scgallafent | notes that Chrome complains about mixed HTTP/HTTPS on Scheduler |
| 16:14.18 | TimRiker | scgallafent, neato. open a jira please? :) |
| 16:14.25 | smootar | Thx |
| 16:14.52 | smootar | I'm thinking we need to get scheduler out of our hair and then get focus back on gg's and svnrm integration. |
| 16:15.07 | smootar | Thanks for the work. |
| 16:15.13 | smootar | tdeforest? |
| 16:15.13 | TimRiker | we have 8 registrants in production. 7 of which are in our group. |
| 16:15.42 | tdeforest | Jeff Jacobsen might be available soon to volunteer with LDSTech |
| 16:15.53 | tccastaldo | Which one isn |
| 16:15.53 | smootar | I have asked a few more people to register and give me feedback on their experience. |
| 16:15.57 | tccastaldo | 't in our group? |
| 16:16.11 | tdeforest | New volunteer: Invited Catherine Reid to get familiar with cdev |
| 16:16.22 | smootar | tdeforest, cool about coderjeff. |
| 16:16.25 | tdeforest | Updated name tag artwork for LDSTech conference 2012. (will be working on more artwork for the conference. smootar, let me know if there is anything in particular you need created. i'll be working from past artwork and updating unless you need me to change anything.) |
| 16:16.31 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:16.53 | TimRiker | ie: the only one without a ldschurch.org address. :) |
| 16:17.11 | tdeforest | smootar: i'll send you a list of stuff i'll be updating so you can add/remove from the list |
| 16:17.11 | smootar | tdeforest, we will want to send out an invite for registering soon. SO that invite will need to be created. |
| 16:17.11 | tccastaldo | Ah/ |
| 16:17.14 | tccastaldo | . |
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| 16:17.25 | tdeforest | smootar: k. i'll put that at the top of the list |
| 16:17.42 | smootar | tdeforest, thx |
| 16:17.45 | tdeforest | still working on testing portal module |
| 16:17.57 | tdeforest | looks like i'll need to comment stuff out for scgallafent and gg |
| 16:18.29 | tdeforest | also still working on getting access to production server. dlhace is helping me. |
| 16:18.35 | tdeforest | that is all for me |
| 16:18.50 | smootar | Thx tdeforest |
| 16:18.56 | smootar | I just notice dbkjar joined. |
| 16:19.09 | dbkjar | hi |
| 16:19.10 | smootar | dbkjar, had his chapter meeting on Saturday. |
| 16:19.33 | smootar | I thought we had the link updated for the download after the broadcast and it wasn't. |
| 16:19.50 | smootar | dbkjar, sorry about that. Let me know if you can get to it now. |
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| 16:20.15 | dbkjar | np, We ended up watching December abd siince I had tuned in on Friday, I gave them a verbal summary. |
| 16:20.17 | KFitz | Moo |
| 16:20.39 | smootar | dbkjar, sounds like you handled it well. |
| 16:21.00 | smootar | tccastaldo? |
| 16:21.28 | tccastaldo | sits up |
| 16:21.32 | tccastaldo | Hi. |
| 16:22.00 | smootar | wonders if he was lying down now. |
| 16:22.12 | smootar | tccastaldo, updates? |
| 16:22.14 | TimRiker | heh. perks up perhaps? |
| 16:22.25 | tccastaldo | On Friday, I spent a lot of time going through the Scheduler's JIRA. |
| 16:22.37 | tccastaldo | LOL I was just leaning back in my chair. |
| 16:22.53 | smootar | :) |
| 16:23.18 | TimRiker | cringes at the new java code our friends checked in... private boolean checkCourseDateWithUserSelectionConferenceDate(BasicDBList conferencedaysList,String courseTime) |
| 16:23.25 | tccastaldo | Anyway, I went through and marked as "resolved" bugs that had been fixed and reclassified some that were "blockers." |
| 16:24.00 | smootar | great. |
| 16:24.00 | tccastaldo | counts the letters in that method name. |
| 16:24.16 | scgallafent | thinks you can take self-documenting code too far |
| 16:24.34 | tccastaldo | I'm also working on installing the Java stack. |
| 16:24.56 | tccastaldo | This is new to me since I'm used to doing Java with a text editor. |
| 16:25.23 | tccastaldo | thinks self-documenting code is a myth |
| 16:25.38 | tccastaldo | That's what took most of my time on Friday. |
| 16:25.52 | smootar | Anything else? |
| 16:26.03 | tccastaldo | Nope. I'm done for today. |
| 16:26.32 | tccastaldo | At least, done reporting. ;) I'm not going home just yet. |
| 16:26.40 | TimRiker | scheduler quotes: "Please rate the presentation to your daily work." "Please rate conference compare to other similar conferences you have attended." |
| 16:26.42 | smootar | Thx. KFitz anything? |
| 16:26.49 | KFitz | No Sir |
| 16:26.55 | KFitz | Well I do, but for our 1 on 1 |
| 16:27.15 | tdeforest | loves engrish |
| 16:27.16 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, do you want me to help? |
| 16:27.24 | TimRiker | me would add a comment like "Some people are not liking attending this conferences." |
| 16:27.51 | smootar | shoot, dlhace was lost. |
| 16:27.59 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, sure. let's talk to smootar after the meeting. |
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| 16:28.48 | smootar | scgallafent, do you know if camping.lds.org has been sent to go through IP and Correlation since it was taken offline? |
| 16:29.08 | TimRiker | "Already exist in the local DB. So again it will not be required from proxy to get this information." |
| 16:29.09 | smootar | Lee G. asked me that question, and I didn't have the answer. |
| 16:29.15 | scgallafent | No. I traded emails with Steve K on Wednesday, but don't have an update. |
| 16:29.18 | scgallafent | I'll ask him today. |
| 16:29.24 | smootar | We should send that through. |
| 16:29.42 | scgallafent | OK. I'll work on that. |
| 16:29.48 | scgallafent | notes that it went through correlation once |
| 16:29.50 | smootar | I'm wondering if the Steve should do it or the other SM (name escapse me) should do it. |
| 16:30.03 | scgallafent | I'll coordinate with Steve on that. |
| 16:30.08 | smootar | Correlation didn't have an official record of it coming through. |
| 16:30.17 | scgallafent | groans |
| 16:30.22 | tccastaldo | The time is far spent! |
| 16:30.37 | tccastaldo | zakzakattack still has to report. |
| 16:30.47 | smootar | zakzakattack, please report. |
| 16:30.57 | zakzakattack | i have nothing |
| 16:30.59 | smootar | What did you do on Friday, what is your plan for today? |
| 16:31.53 | TimRiker | likes how our friends undo his code cause they don't understand it. |
| 16:31.56 | zakzakattack | I helped tccastaldo on some things and thats it. what do you want me to do today? |
| 16:32.19 | smootar | Let's test scheduler stuff and then gg's. |
| 16:32.23 | KFitz | oh Tim speaking of Correlation, there was a Jesse page that he wanted hosted on Tech… please dont host it until he has taken it through correlation. (dlhace may have sent it to you prematurely). I warned Jesse that it needs to go through Correlation first |
| 16:32.32 | KFitz | (sorry I butted in) |
| 16:32.41 | TimRiker | KFitz, k. O |
| 16:32.51 | TimRiker | KFitz, k. I'll email around before putting it up |
| 16:33.18 | smootar | Send the email to Kurt Hills for Correlation and IP. |
| 16:33.27 | KFitz | well Jesse can do that ;) |
| 16:33.36 | smootar | Yes, have Jesse do that. |
| 16:34.02 | smootar | Did anyone else get a survey for LDSTech Service Days? |
| 16:34.11 | tccastaldo | I did not. |
| 16:34.13 | TimRiker | nods. jesse should check the pages in someplace and then have us pull from there. we could set it up in dev so kurt could look at it even. wow, lanes. |
| 16:34.17 | zakzakattack | nope |
| 16:34.46 | scgallafent | I don't recall seeing one. |
| 16:34.50 | tdeforest | i don't think so |
| 16:35.02 | smootar | OK, I will follow-up with one that I got. |
| 16:35.03 | TimRiker | are we done? /me pokes KFitz as he walks by |
| 16:35.22 | smootar | *********************************************** |
| 16:35.22 | smootar | ***** End - LDSTech Meeting - 9 JAN 2012 ****** |
| 16:35.22 | smootar | *********************************************** |
| 16:35.24 | smootar | Thanks you guys. |
| 16:35.45 | scgallafent | I notice there is some non-LDSTech content showing up on the wiki. aebrown has been marking it for deletion. |
| 16:35.59 | scgallafent | Causes me to raise eyebrows right now, but not get too anxious ... yet. |
| 16:36.23 | TimRiker | scgallafent, hmm. pointer? |
| 16:36.31 | tdeforest | scgallafent: i haven't seen that. |
| 16:36.39 | scgallafent | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/File:1TERUKINA%27S2007.jpg |
| 16:37.03 | scgallafent | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/File:Jim_Natalie_25_Apr_2011.JPG |
| 16:37.36 | TimRiker | k. I've seen some images too. no pages then? |
| 16:37.41 | tdeforest | someone getting some free bandwidth? |
| 16:37.57 | TimRiker | perhaps |
| 16:38.06 | scgallafent | Dunno. |
| 16:38.21 | scgallafent | There's always this one: https://tech.lds.org/wiki/Bountiful_Utah |
| 16:38.36 | scgallafent | scratches head |
| 16:38.44 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/Special:Log |
| 16:38.45 | tccastaldo | Ummmm... |
| 16:39.56 | scgallafent | If you look at the log, you see a decent collection of files. I'm not anxious, but concerned. |
| 16:40.35 | dbkjar | Is anyone familiar with the MLS->lds.org connection, why it sometimes takes months to update? |
| 16:40.48 | dbkjar | Two threads on the forums have gone unanswered. |
| 16:41.18 | TimRiker | dbkjar, not sure what you're asking |
| 16:41.25 | tdeforest | scgallafent: i'll comment out the qa code on the edit project page and then check in. sound good? |
| 16:41.35 | scgallafent | tdeforest: That works. |
| 16:41.49 | tdeforest | k. i'll let you know when it is up |
| 16:43.22 | dbkjar | TimRiker, lds.org membership listings seem quite out date sometimes. It's not a browser cache issue either. |
| 16:44.29 | TimRiker | dbkjar, I'd recommend calling the helpdesk. it's likely Someone™ needs to resync the data. if it's just a calling, a clerk can remove the calling, push changes, re-add the calling and push changes again. |
| 16:45.09 | tccastaldo | Someone™ is pretty awesome. |
| 16:45.18 | dbkjar | lol, K, that's what I recommended, but thought I'd ask in case we had someone hanging out here that Knows™ |
| 16:45.26 | TimRiker | if it's listing in the ward for a member, I don't know who to talk to other than the help desk. my wife disappeared from our ward once. Had to get helpdesk to get directory folk to repush her in order to fix it. |
| 16:57.16 | tccastaldo | How do I know if Maven is done importing a project? |
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| 17:02.19 | tdeforest | scgallafent: ok. edit project qa code commented |
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| 17:58.24 | scgallafent | tdeforest: Thanks |
| 17:58.38 | tdeforest | np |
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| 18:19.29 | TimRiker | zakzakattack, max registration should be a setting under edit conference, where right now it's a setting in server.xml |
| 18:19.47 | TimRiker | zakzakattack, please open a jira task to get it moved to the conference settings. |
| 18:20.01 | zakzakattack | ok will do! |
| 18:25.28 | zakzakattack | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.16 | TimRiker | zakzakattack, it does have agile, but I'm just now starting to look at what releases tickets are under. |
| 18:26.48 | zakzakattack | k found it. thanks! |
| 18:27.01 | tccastaldo | np |
| 18:27.31 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/jira/browse/LDSTSCH |
| 18:57.01 | tccastaldo | Is require.js implemented? |
| 18:58.30 | TimRiker | edits zakzakattack's jira. :) |
| 18:58.39 | TimRiker | no idea what require.js is. |
| 19:03.36 | tccastaldo | LSDTSCH-43 |
| 19:03.46 | tccastaldo | LOL |
| 19:03.53 | tccastaldo | LDSTSCH-43 |
| 19:04.34 | TimRiker | closes it |
| 19:05.15 | zakzakattack | TimRiker: sorry im brand new to jira so i dont know my way around it yet. thanks for fixing that! |
| 19:05.36 | TimRiker | zakzakattack, np. learning by experience is excellent! keep it up! |
| 19:06.11 | zakzakattack | i will. thanks! |
| 19:11.21 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, how did a presentation get created without a name? |
| 19:11.31 | TimRiker | no idea |
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| 21:23.24 | TimRiker | luvs hacking on java projects |
| 21:23.37 | TimRiker | scgallafent, got that php scheduler selected yet? :) |
| 21:23.49 | scgallafent | That bad? |
| 21:24.28 | TimRiker | I've got a big head and little hands and I don't think this plan was thought out very well |
| 21:25.04 | scgallafent | Is the Sort Scheduler just not going to work for us or does it need more hands beating on it? |
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| 21:25.32 | TimRiker | it' |
| 21:25.40 | TimRiker | it'll work as well as last year anyway. |
| 21:26.10 | scgallafent | detects confidence in TimRiker's voice -- but in what? |
| 21:26.19 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 21:27.09 | scgallafent | I liked the looks of the WordPress plugin, but a Joomla solution would make more sens. |
| 21:27.12 | scgallafent | s/sens/sense/ |
| 21:32.38 | tdeforest | i would vote for wordpress if only to begin the long slow march away from joomla. just sayin :) |
| 21:33.07 | tdeforest | the journey of 1000 miles begins with a single step, as they say |
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| 21:38.13 | tdeforest | and the java scheduler isn't integrated with joomla either so... |
| 21:38.56 | tdeforest | wishes josephscott was here to help me make this case |
| 21:39.17 | TimRiker | heh |
| 21:40.38 | smootar | The scheduler is a legacy app that was started by Bryan A. I don't think I want this funcationality inside of Joomla. |
| 21:40.46 | smootar | It is only needed once a year. |
| 21:41.26 | smootar | I don't want to make LDSTech a monolithic application that does everything that we would ever want to have done. |
| 21:41.50 | smootar | I plan to hand this back to Bryan A. when we get it working for our needs. |
| 21:42.06 | smootar | The FamilySearch group is looking at using it as well. |
| 21:42.22 | smootar | So, I don't want it tightly coupled with our LDSTech site. |
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| 22:09.41 | scgallafent | is just reading through the past 30 minutes |
| 22:10.05 | scgallafent | smootar: Would we be better off to use one of the other scheduling systems rather than fight it out with this? |
| 22:11.35 | smootar | Possibly. We used this Scheduler last year, so we probably could have gotten by as is. I also was asked to try Prokarma and provide feedback on how they are to work with. |
| 22:12.09 | smootar | I would have liked a few more things in the Scheduler, so I used this project to do a test run. |
| 22:12.18 | scgallafent | Sounds reasonable. |
| 22:12.46 | smootar | So, I guess we could look for something else. I plan to give ownership of this back to Bryan when we are done. |
| 22:13.39 | scgallafent | We looked at a couple of plugins the other day -- one for WordPress and a couple for Joomla. |
| 22:13.41 | smootar | At this point, I just want to make sure it will satisfay the basic needs of our March Conference. |
| 22:13.53 | smootar | plugins for registration? |
| 22:14.02 | scgallafent | Yes. Registration and scheduling. |
| 22:14.08 | smootar | Or conference management? |
| 22:14.15 | scgallafent | http://wordpress.org/extend/plugins/conference-schedule/ |
| 22:14.53 | scgallafent | http://extensions.joomla.org/extensions/calendars-a-events/events/events-registration |
| 22:15.33 | scgallafent | tdeforest: josephscott stepped in the room a few minutes ago |
| 22:15.38 | josephscott | hi |
| 22:15.54 | TimRiker | emily calls, nothing here yet: https://tech.lds.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?126-ePublishing |
| 22:16.20 | scgallafent | Hi. I figured I'd wake you up. :) |
| 22:16.52 | smootar | looks at the links. |
| 22:18.18 | smootar | Event Booking has almost 5 stars with 172 votes. People seem to like that one. |
| 22:18.32 | smootar | Pro Events Booking as 5 stars too, but only 6 votes. |
| 22:19.10 | josephscott | waves from the future |
| 22:19.27 | scgallafent | The reviews looked pretty promising, too. |
| 22:19.35 | smootar | josephscott, are you in Christ Church or where are you? |
| 22:19.53 | josephscott | queenstown |
| 22:20.07 | josephscott | got in a couple of hours ago |
| 22:20.23 | smootar | Cool. |
| 22:21.16 | scgallafent | Did you preadjust to the time, or are you going to be clobbered by the end of the day? |
| 22:21.37 | josephscott | I'm going to get crushed by the end of the day |
| 22:21.49 | josephscott | I only got a small amount of sleep on the flight from SF to Auckland |
| 22:22.26 | scgallafent | Bummer. |
| 22:24.16 | smootar | I've only done it once, but that is a long flight. |
| 22:24.27 | smootar | It makes me tired just thinking about it. |
| 22:24.51 | smootar | Queenstown looks a little like a Park City or something like that. |
| 22:51.16 | josephscott | the view out the window http://josephscott.org/archives/2012/01/queenstown-new-zealand/ |
| 22:53.53 | tdeforest | josephscott: i've been trying to make a case for using wordpress for ldstech conference management instead of ldstech scheduler. honestly, there doesn't seem to be a lot of extensions available for conference management. any experience with this? |
| 22:55.24 | josephscott | I've not used any of the plugins for conference management, so I don't really have a good feel for where they are at |
| 22:57.15 | josephscott | wish I had a better answer for you |
| 22:57.46 | josephscott | shouldn't be hard to spin up a WP instance and try out a few of the plugins, especially if you have a specific feature list in mind already |
| 22:58.32 | tdeforest | true |
| 23:27.12 | smootar | I wouldn't spend too much time on this topic. I only want to get through the conference and help Bryan with his scheduler app. |
| 23:27.25 | scgallafent | is back from shuffling kids - Reading back |
| 23:28.19 | josephscott | fair enough, I think that is what we did last year as well :-) |
| 23:29.35 | scgallafent | josephscott: Nice view. |
| 23:30.08 | josephscott | indeed, I didn't realize we were going to be looking over the lakes |
| 23:31.16 | smootar | That is a great view of Lake Wakatipu |
| 23:33.05 | smootar | Lake Wakatipu doubled as the famous Scottish Loch Ness in the 2007 film The Water Horse: Legend of the Deep |
| 23:33.23 | smootar | Queenstown's Lake Wakatipu, seen previously in the "Lord of the Rings" movies |
| 23:33.34 | josephscott | the lake was in the movies? |
| 23:34.33 | josephscott | the airport here is pretty small, not much room between the lake and the mountains |
| 23:34.55 | smootar | josephscott, Are you staying just off from Frankton Road? |
| 23:35.52 | josephscott | smootar: http://maps.google.com/maps?q=69+hensman+road&hl=en&sll=-40.900557,174.885971&sspn=22.648455,46.098633&vpsrc=0&hnear=69+Hensman+Rd,+Queenstown+9300,+Otago,+New+Zealand&t=m&z=16 |
| 23:36.14 | josephscott | so yes up the side of the mountain a bit from Frankton Road |
| 23:36.42 | smootar | Looks like a very nice place. |
| 23:37.29 | smootar | Can you see the Queenstown Golf Course across the way? |
| 23:38.33 | smootar | http://maps.google.com/maps?q=69+hensman+road&hl=en&ll=-45.042751,168.667259&spn=0.027988,0.066047&sll=-40.900557,174.885971&sspn=22.648455,46.098633&vpsrc=6&hnear=69+Hensman+Rd,+Queenstown+9300,+Otago,+New+Zealand&t=h&z=15 |
| 23:41.37 | josephscott | yep |
| 23:42.26 | josephscott | we have a second house up the road a bit and it has a great view of the golf course |
| 23:45.39 | smootar | Sounds like a dreamy place. |
