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| 00:49.59 | TimRiker | off for the day. pushed the initial svnrm stuff into production. not active there really as the url is not set. do NOT set it till we get things working in cdev. |
| 00:50.09 | TimRiker | cya |
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| 15:55.38 | smootar | tccastaldo, welcome! |
| 15:55.49 | tccastaldo | Thank you. |
| 15:56.37 | smootar | It looks like we are missing a few people out here. When they join we will introduce you to the group. |
| 15:56.51 | tccastaldo | Sounds great. |
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| 16:33.11 | scgallafent | smootar_: Meetingplace says the meeting doesn't exist. |
| 16:33.24 | smootar_ | I noticed, and just recreated it. |
| 16:33.27 | smootar_ | Please try it again. |
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| 16:34.10 | smootar | tdeforest_mobile, are you traveling? |
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| 16:34.32 | scgallafent | Try again |
| 16:34.43 | tdeforest_mobile | k |
| 16:34.47 | smootar | It was just created. |
| 16:34.56 | smootar | It seemed to have disappeared. |
| 16:56.32 | tccastaldo | Hello. I'm Tyler. |
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| 17:50.10 | RedWorKing | so, is there any plan to release LDS Tools on the windows platform? |
| 17:50.14 | RedWorKing | I've got a coworker asking |
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| 18:00.09 | tccastaldo | Hey there, Zak. |
| 18:00.37 | tccastaldo | Looks like there are two of you... |
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| 18:01.04 | TimRiker | moin |
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| 18:02.05 | TimRiker | smootar, others, have you had a chance to look at the admin tool improvements? JoshBang should be able to walk you through the re-syncing he's been doing. |
| 18:03.19 | tccastaldo | Hello, Tim. I'm Tyler. |
| 18:03.28 | tccastaldo | And I don't have my own machine yet. |
| 18:03.36 | tccastaldo | Still using a loaner. |
| 18:05.24 | tccastaldo | JoshBang left, by the way. |
| 18:05.53 | TimRiker | k. are you testing on cdev, testing gospel library ? |
| 18:06.12 | TimRiker | what can I help with? Looks like I have some svnrm bugs to work on today. |
| 18:06.25 | TimRiker | you've met with smootar there I assume? |
| 18:06.46 | tccastaldo | Yes, I've met with smootar. |
| 18:07.41 | TimRiker | oh, and welcome aboard! :) |
| 18:07.48 | tccastaldo | Thanks. |
| 18:08.17 | tccastaldo | I haven't been able to do a whole lot without my computer. |
| 18:09.14 | TimRiker | note: smootar and I have our irc clients configured to beep at us when someone says our full name. I don't think the freenode webchat interface supports that. |
| 18:09.59 | TimRiker | with the loaner, you should be able to do some testing on cdev. hit https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/ and use the sample usernames listed in the wiki here: |
| 18:10.19 | TimRiker | https://tech.lds.org/wiki/Tech.lds.org#Test_system |
| 18:11.07 | TimRiker | did JoshBang show you what he was working on yesterday with the resyning of jira accounts? |
| 18:11.18 | tccastaldo | Okay. |
| 18:11.23 | TimRiker | s/resyning/resyncing/ |
| 18:11.24 | tccastaldo | No, he didn't. |
| 18:11.57 | TimRiker | k. Are you setup on tech? have you signed the icla and joined the ldstech project? |
| 18:12.14 | tccastaldo | Yes. |
| 18:12.22 | TimRiker | what is your ldsaccount name? you can send it privately if you like as /msg TimRiker .... |
| 18:12.49 | tccastaldo | Same as my chat name. |
| 18:13.43 | tccastaldo | Looks like I can't sign in to cdev, though... |
| 18:16.41 | TimRiker | cdev needs the test accounts, not real ldsaccounts. see the wiki page I posted above for usernames. |
| 18:17.03 | tccastaldo | Ah, I get it. |
| 18:17.14 | TimRiker | I upgraded you to developer in LDSTech, added you as admin on joomla and the talentpool module. |
| 18:17.29 | tccastaldo | Thank you, TimRiker. |
| 18:18.06 | TimRiker | added you as admin in jira |
| 18:18.27 | TimRiker | you should be able to do resyncing like JoshBang was yesterday now. |
| 18:21.18 | TimRiker | if you have questions, ask first before diving in. :) I don't know how many people still need fixing in production. |
| 18:21.41 | josephscott | did user syncing break badly some where along the line? |
| 18:21.43 | TimRiker | better to get familiar with the fake people in cdev first. |
| 18:22.13 | tccastaldo | JoshBang didn't show me what he was doing yesterday. |
| 18:22.25 | TimRiker | josephscott, just old people that never got updated, etc. at one point the syncing didn't always work with MixedCase usernames, so there are some from that state. |
| 18:22.58 | TimRiker | tccastaldo, ok. grab smootar if you get a chance and perhaps you two can call me and we'll walk through it. |
| 18:23.41 | TimRiker | josephscott, I'm adding svnrm and gg to the admin pages too. trying to keep all our integration manageable. |
| 18:23.55 | tccastaldo | Will do. Thanks. |
| 18:24.40 | TimRiker | josephscott, some things we know are broken, like moving a project to a new jira project does not re-create all the correct user roles in the new project. |
| 18:26.33 | josephscott | oh yeah, that whole mixed case situation |
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| 18:32.41 | TimRiker | right now it looks like the svnrm code does not handle sub paths properly. some of the mobile apps use paths in a shared repository. most projects have a separate project. |
| 18:35.58 | josephscott | wasn't svnrm being rewritten by someone? |
| 18:37.14 | TimRiker | it was. the new version is now deployed to production. |
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| 18:48.49 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, In the Admin window, what does A/R/M mean? |
| 18:49.39 | TimRiker | admin/reports/manager |
| 18:53.33 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, what's the most efficient way to synch users w/ project rights? |
| 18:54.04 | TimRiker | still mostly manual. just that the tool at least helps you find and verify. |
| 18:54.53 | TimRiker | login to cdev here: https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/ |
| 18:55.32 | TimRiker | then there will be an Admin menu item on the top menu. pick that. |
| 18:55.57 | TimRiker | then Components->Talent Pool |
| 18:56.17 | TimRiker | here you can search by name, email, project, role, etc. |
| 18:56.39 | tccastaldo | smootar showed me that. |
| 18:57.19 | TimRiker | https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/administrator/index.php?option=com_talentpool&task=edituser&id=5 |
| 18:57.34 | TimRiker | shows that aholder should be a developer in A Test, but is actually listed as a DBA |
| 18:57.36 | tccastaldo | He was wondering if there was something more efficient than doing it anually. |
| 18:57.52 | TimRiker | oh, sry. the reverse.... |
| 18:58.31 | TimRiker | that's cause there really is not a DBA role in jira, so they get developer spots. ie: not a bug. |
| 18:58.35 | tccastaldo | s/anually/manually |
| 18:59.22 | TimRiker | ignore the debug info on the bottom of that page. I'm working on svn integration and can't test locally, so I work right on cdev |
| 18:59.50 | TimRiker | the link for the jira role takes you to the role edit screen in jira. that's as integrated as we are so far. |
| 19:00.40 | tccastaldo | Ok. |
| 19:03.19 | TimRiker | here's one that wrong. https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/administrator/index.php?option=com_talentpool&task=edituser&id=7 |
| 19:03.32 | TimRiker | probably the result of our old MixedCase bug |
| 19:05.24 | TimRiker | also messed up: https://cdev.lds.org/ldstech/joomla/administrator/index.php?option=com_talentpool&task=edituser&id=15 |
| 19:10.38 | tccastaldo | Looks like my machine is ready. I'll be back in a minute. |
| 19:14.40 | TimRiker | k. I'll be back in a bit too. |
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| 19:48.01 | TimRiker | eek! in cdev we DO have MixedCase usernames in JIRA. What's up with that? |
| 19:49.07 | josephscott | That's the only way to be truly 133t! |
| 19:50.41 | TimRiker | 'cept that all the checks are looking for the lower case username and NOT the mixed case username as the atlassian docs claim that's how they will appear. |
| 19:53.50 | TimRiker | great... here's a winner: |
| 19:53.54 | TimRiker | https://cdev.lds.org/jira/secure/admin/user/ViewUserProjectRoles!default.jspa?name=ktester1 |
| 19:54.02 | TimRiker | https://cdev.lds.org/jira/secure/admin/user/ViewUserProjectRoles!default.jspa?name=KTester1 |
| 19:54.19 | TimRiker | the second shows project roles. The first shows none. they both claim to be the same user. |
| 19:54.55 | macnewbold | case sensitivity got you down? |
| 19:56.08 | TimRiker | yea and verily |
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| 20:09.20 | TimRiker | suspects that if they moved the jira back end from postgress to mysql, it would hide this broken issue. |
| 20:09.54 | TimRiker | ooh, and also allow MixedCase logins. but the WAM update tonight should take care of that. hopefully. |
| 20:11.28 | macnewbold | yes, mysql is case insensitive in its matching iirc |
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| 20:13.35 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, I'm finally back with my own computer. |
| 20:18.50 | TimRiker | macnewbold, mysql can be either. using _cs gets case sensitive, _ci (default) gets case insensitive. |
| 20:18.57 | josephscott | wait, the church is running a postgresql install? |
| 20:21.04 | TimRiker | yes. the jira installs use postgresql on the backend. |
| 20:21.29 | josephscott | nice, had no idea they'd go for using that |
| 20:21.40 | TimRiker | apparently some many years ago there was a plugin someone wanted that required postgresql, so we've been there ever since. |
| 20:21.53 | josephscott | they didn't panic and have a cow over using a open source product? |
| 20:22.14 | TimRiker | I don't think they knew at the time that it was free and Open Source. |
| 20:22.19 | josephscott | haha |
| 20:22.54 | TimRiker | else it would violate the apparent guideline: "Pay More, Get Less." that we normally follow. |
| 20:24.07 | josephscott | I like postgresql, and for folks coming from the oracle, db2, sybase (and to some extent ms sql) worlds it compares pretty well |
| 20:24.46 | TimRiker | macnewbold, where there's no _cs, one case use the _bin as in utf8_bin which iirc gets the same result. |
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| 20:24.57 | TimRiker | s/case/can/ |
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| 20:41.57 | dlhace | he Tim |
| 20:42.01 | dlhace | hi |
| 20:42.14 | dlhace | what were the specs you wanted for the mysql servers? |
| 20:42.41 | dlhace | I am going to specail order them with fiber channel SAN |
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| 20:42.59 | dlhace | special...I do know how to spell |
| 20:44.35 | tccastaldo | TimRiker, are you there? Can we call you? |
| 20:45.20 | TimRiker | back. you can call. |
| 20:45.56 | tccastaldo | Your cell isn't answering. |
| 20:46.10 | dlhace | Tim did you see my messages? |
| 20:46.15 | TimRiker | just missed a call, I assumed was you. |
| 20:46.23 | tccastaldo | Probably. |
| 20:46.44 | TimRiker | just did a half ring, then dropped before I could grab it. |
| 20:48.16 | TimRiker | dlhace, hmm. I don't recall the specs dual+cpu fast storage. |
| 20:54.47 | dlhace | Also, I am looking at putting some of the social media files on tech if that is ok |
| 20:55.51 | dlhace | Some simple html files off a root context. Do you have any problems with that? |
| 20:56.21 | dlhace | ? |
| 20:59.37 | dlhace | How many my SQL servers do we need? |
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| 21:10.35 | dlhace | TimRiker, How many servers do we need and for which environments? 3? one for dev, stage, prod or do you want multiples in the environments? |
| 21:11.44 | TimRiker | dlhace, we keep things checked into svn. if you want to check some new files in, that's fine. if you want to just pass them on to tdeforest or I, we can check them in. |
| 21:12.10 | TimRiker | if they want a new path like /social/ etc, feel free to send that wherever you like. |
| 21:13.23 | TimRiker | sql servers... ideally we'd have 2 in each env, but other than production, I'm happy to share with apps. so dev could use one more vm, stage already has 2 VMs. production wants 2 actual hardware servers. |
| 21:22.18 | pikapp | Does the project lead from the ldssa Android Gospel Library project come here often? |
| 21:44.46 | TimRiker | not really. they mostly live on the google groups email list. |
| 21:45.03 | pikapp | Perfect--thanks! |
| 22:06.44 | pikapp | TimRiker, does SLC have a decent job market for programmers? |
| 22:07.02 | TimRiker | it's better than most. not great though |
| 22:07.19 | TimRiker | starts messing with sso cookie renaming on cdev |
| 22:08.21 | pikapp | Cool...just curious. I live in SC and have been looking to relocate when I finish my MS in May, and SLC is one of the few places I could move without losing all my money in translation |
| 23:09.11 | TimRiker | argh.. f5 bugs abound |
| 23:13.13 | tccastaldo | What happens on refresh? |
| 23:13.29 | tccastaldo | That's not supposed to, I mean? |
| 23:17.59 | TimRiker | huh? |
| 23:18.40 | TimRiker | I've been trying the cookie rename on our f5 big-ip. Removing a cooking that has httponly attribute leaves the attribute hanging out. |
| 23:19.06 | TimRiker | getting path and domain from an existing cookie returns an empty string. |
| 23:19.09 | TimRiker | etc |
| 23:19.17 | TimRiker | bug on top of bug. |
| 23:19.18 | tccastaldo | Oh. |
| 23:19.37 | tccastaldo | Yuck. |
| 23:25.11 | josephscott | still fighting those? |
| 23:25.15 | TimRiker | well, I'm checking out for the day. Hoped to get cookie renaming working, but no joy yet. |
| 23:25.43 | tccastaldo | Take care, TimRiker. |
| 23:25.56 | TimRiker | halfway through the login and logout process we hit some other servers that are not expecting the renamed cookies. ugh. |
| 23:26.16 | TimRiker | have to walk through it some more. I'll get back on it tomorrow. |
| 23:26.20 | TimRiker | later all! |