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| 13:46.08 | tdeforest | morning coderjeff |
| 13:48.16 | coderjeff | Hi Tom |
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| 15:11.02 | tdeforest | and finally trying to get a story for tom johnson written |
| 15:11.18 | smootar | Cool, what is the topic? |
| 15:11.46 | tdeforest | a bishop here had a son who was touched by the spirit through the scriptures on his phone |
| 15:12.27 | tdeforest | i just need to get enough of that bishop's time so I can get the details for the article |
| 15:12.47 | tdeforest | his son is now on a mission because of that experience |
| 15:12.49 | smootar | Not that it matters, but smart phone or feature phone? |
| 15:13.03 | tdeforest | smart phone i believe |
| 15:13.07 | smootar | :) |
| 15:13.52 | tdeforest | that's the big and small stuff |
| 15:14.05 | smootar | Thanks tdeforest, TimRiker? |
| 15:14.28 | TimRiker | poking at the SOAP interface, but not getting very far. hope to make more progress today. |
| 15:15.23 | TimRiker | not much ele to report. guess I'm done. |
| 15:15.33 | smootar | KFitz? |
| 15:16.32 | KFitz | I dont have anything really |
| 15:16.51 | KFitz | hooking up Enterprise Tester to look at it⦠its not playing nice though |
| 15:16.58 | smootar | dhazar_ anything today? |
| 15:17.17 | TimRiker | KFitz, do we have access to bonfire to test out yet? |
| 15:17.43 | TimRiker | two birds just flew into our window. boom, boom. |
| 15:17.47 | KFitz | I dont think we are so interested in that |
| 15:18.02 | smootar | I was, they about hit me in the face. |
| 15:18.07 | smootar | It was a bit startling. |
| 15:18.27 | TimRiker | KFitz, just curious to see what it actually does. we could use it for our LAMP stack testing (once the cooke rename is in place) |
| 15:18.33 | scgallafent | The question is, were they starlings? :) |
| 15:19.09 | KFitz | its really more about taking screen shots and loggint those into Jira |
| 15:19.38 | smootar | (low priority) They were about the size of a robin, but I'm not sure what kind they were. |
| 15:19.56 | KFitz | and I realize I am minimalizing it |
| 15:20.01 | TimRiker | heh |
| 15:20.29 | smootar | Am I missing anyone? |
| 15:20.35 | smootar | dlahce isn't here correct? |
| 15:20.41 | TimRiker | the online vid does show test cases. not sure how useful they are. |
| 15:20.48 | scgallafent | remembered another item |
| 15:21.02 | smootar | dlhace told me he was going to stand up a server for LDSTech Scheduler today. |
| 15:21.07 | smootar | scgallafent, go ahead. |
| 15:21.39 | scgallafent | We're still waiting for documentation on the service that generates LDS.org-style headers and footers from Stewart Shelline. |
| 15:21.41 | KFitz | I didnt notice it really doing test cases as much as doing linking "what I saw" to a defect |
| 15:22.13 | smootar | I spoke with Stewart Shelline. He told me doesn't have it. He is planning to do the work himself since he doesn't want to destract his team. |
| 15:22.17 | scgallafent | Steve Knudsen was going to try to follow up on that. I think you said you know Stewart. You may want to check with him |
| 15:22.24 | smootar | I think because of this, we will be quite a while before we get it. |
| 15:22.32 | scgallafent | OK. We'll put it on the back burner. |
| 15:22.38 | smootar | I talked with Stewart yesterday. |
| 15:22.48 | smootar | Do not hold your breath for it. |
| 15:23.13 | smootar | He compained we weren't using them, we asked for them. He will now stay quiet I think until he delivers what we need. |
| 15:23.35 | smootar | I will ask him about it each time I run into him. Maybe once a week or so. |
| 15:23.36 | scgallafent | It's nice when the ball is in someone else's court. |
| 15:23.40 | smootar | :) |
| 15:24.04 | TimRiker | finds that frustrating |
| 15:24.10 | scgallafent | Remind me someday to tell you about how I used that technique to get a stake president's counselor to go to Wood Badge. |
| 15:24.23 | smootar | :) |
| 15:24.41 | tdeforest | hearts woodbadge |
| 15:24.53 | smootar | FYI, I will be in SLC (suit and tie) today. |
| 15:25.04 | KFitz | whats up there? |
| 15:25.15 | smootar | I will be meeting with Roger Andelin and the authors of eMissionary. |
| 15:25.37 | scgallafent | eMissionary? |
| 15:25.38 | smootar | Roger is temporarily over the missionary ICS group. |
| 15:26.03 | scgallafent | Ah. Found it. Google needed nudging. |
| 15:26.04 | smootar | eMissionary is basically an electronic pass along card that runs on iPhone, Android and Blackberry. |
| 15:26.37 | smootar | It is an easy way to share gospel topics with people that you discuss the gospel with. |
| 15:27.01 | smootar | The topic may be about Temples, and sends a link via email to them that is a full page of information on the topic. |
| 15:27.11 | smootar | All information coming from the 1st Pres and 12. |
| 15:27.19 | KFitz | smootar is the new Missionary PD? ;) |
| 15:27.19 | scgallafent | sees correlation shuddering |
| 15:28.01 | TimRiker | not at present church endorsed.. |
| 15:28.04 | smootar | disturbed by KFitz. |
| 15:28.14 | smootar | Not endorsed. |
| 15:28.24 | smootar | These guys are willing to give it to the church if they want it. |
| 15:28.32 | smootar | If not, they will continue doing this on there own. |
| 15:29.12 | smootar | The page has a place for someone to ask for more information. |
| 15:29.19 | smootar | If they send a request for missionaries. |
| 15:29.31 | smootar | They manually enter their information into mormon.org. |
| 15:29.32 | TimRiker | smootar, were you showing me an android version? or an ios version? |
| 15:29.33 | tdeforest | sounds really cool |
| 15:29.40 | smootar | iOS. |
| 15:29.47 | smootar | It is a great concept. |
| 15:29.50 | scgallafent | Here's a link to the Android version: http://www.appbrain.com/app/emissionary-lds-mormon/com.data.ad2action.emissionary |
| 15:30.09 | tdeforest | couldn't find it in the iOS app store |
| 15:30.14 | smootar | It is a great way to share the gospel with those you meet. |
| 15:30.30 | smootar | iOS is temporarily missing it becuase thier account lapsed. |
| 15:30.35 | smootar | It will be out there soon. |
| 15:30.38 | smootar | Maybe today. |
| 15:30.40 | tdeforest | ah |
| 15:31.04 | smootar | I felt this would be a good app for the missionary dept to review and possibley endorse. |
| 15:31.20 | smootar | It is built on a lead generation engine. |
| 15:31.24 | smootar | Enough of that. |
| 15:31.34 | smootar | Anything else? |
| 15:31.58 | smootar | ************************************************* |
| 15:31.59 | smootar | ***** End - LDSTech Meeting - 20 OCT 2011 ******* |
| 15:31.59 | smootar | ************************************************* |
| 15:32.05 | smootar | Thanks for your time all. |
| 15:32.21 | tdeforest | thanks all |
| 15:32.31 | smootar | You guys are great. |
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| 15:41.46 | TimRiker | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.57 | TimRiker | er.. used |
| 15:44.45 | KFitz | I would still rather have the Fire ;) |
| 15:45.00 | KFitz | the nook seems sluggish |
| 15:45.33 | TimRiker | agreed. wish there was a mic and a camera too. but for $80 ... |
| 15:49.41 | TimRiker | bn sells refurbed for $149 http://www.barnesandnoble.com/u/certified-pre-owned-nookcolor/379002680/ |
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| 16:31.58 | smootar | He doesn't want to slow his team down by asking them to do it. |
| 16:32.08 | smootar | So, we are in a wait mode for this. |
| 16:32.20 | josephscott | ok, thanks for the update |
| 16:32.26 | smootar | Do not hold your breath waiting for the templates. Stewart is very busy and I'm guessing it will be a while before we see them. |
| 16:32.47 | smootar | I will ping him periodically on it when I see him, probably about once a week or so. |
| 16:33.08 | scgallafent | josephscott: What Alan said. |
| 16:33.17 | scgallafent | Did you see my email? |
| 16:33.17 | smootar | :) |
| 16:33.30 | josephscott | funny thing about that is that he contacted us to push for us to use them |
| 16:34.01 | scgallafent | Yes. So now it moves at whatever speed he wants it to. |
| 16:34.39 | scgallafent | josephscott: You did see my email. :) |
| 16:34.52 | scgallafent | Talk about finding the hard way to do things. |
| 16:34.55 | josephscott | :-) |
| 16:35.52 | josephscott | well, guess we are back to hurry up and wait, emphasis on the wait ;-) |
| 16:38.50 | josephscott | one reason why it is worth having official items in the app store: https://twitter.com/#!/bencrowder/status/126853729168273408 - people will copy and create fake versions |
| 16:42.36 | scgallafent | Is that a fake version or did we just get lucky and get randomly picked by the store? |
| 16:45.50 | josephscott | https://twitter.com/#!/bencrowder/status/126854217263628289 |
| 16:55.02 | scgallafent | http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/ensign/id471061898?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo%3D2 |
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| 17:24.42 | josephscott | wouldn't he need a copyright license for that? |
| 17:28.22 | TimRiker | josephscott, yes, he should. I doubt he does. |
| 17:28.37 | TimRiker | wonder how much money he's making off it |
| 17:29.00 | josephscott | real shame is that he got the name 'Ensign' |
| 17:29.02 | TimRiker | heh. clicking through to his web site is blocked by our proxy. |
| 17:30.52 | josephscott | ldsmagazineapps.com |
| 17:31.07 | TimRiker | yep. blocked by the proxy |
| 17:31.24 | josephscott | domain created: 07-Oct-2011 |
| 17:31.41 | josephscott | wonders why in the world that site would be blocked |
| 17:31.51 | josephscott | it is a nearly blank page |
| 17:32.04 | TimRiker | REASON: Potentially Damaging Content - This category is filtered. (1) Sites in this category may pose a security threat to network resources or private information, and are blocked by your organization. |
| 17:33.04 | josephscott | lame |
| 17:33.06 | TimRiker | josephscott, I got to it. not much there. |
| 17:33.11 | josephscott | entire HTML : http://pastebin.com/BPv6Tqcj |
| 17:33.26 | josephscott | I wonder if the proxy blacklists any domain that is younger than X days |
| 17:33.34 | TimRiker | just cause I whine, does not mean I can't get around things. |
| 17:33.42 | TimRiker | dunno |
| 17:33.43 | josephscott | of course :-) |
| 17:34.23 | TimRiker | so is it just a copy of the pdf? |
| 17:34.53 | TimRiker | http://lds.org/gospellibrary/pdfmagazine/0,7779,592-6-1,00.html <- old, not longer updated location |
| 17:34.57 | josephscott | don't know, I haven't purchased it |
| 17:35.55 | josephscott | looks like it could be the PDF, based on the screenshots |
| 17:36.21 | TimRiker | rss feed with new, harder to find pdfs: http://feeds.lds.org/Ensign |
| 17:36.55 | josephscott | haha, description says: |
| 17:36.57 | josephscott | "This application is not endorsed by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. All magazine content is © Intellectual Reserve, Inc." |
| 17:37.07 | TimRiker | heh |
| 17:39.38 | josephscott | fun how you get to just completely ignore copyright simply by acknowledging it |
| 17:40.29 | TimRiker | here's a useful page: http://lds.org/media-library/accessing-media-ebooks "Official Church e-books can be found on lds.org" uhh... link anyone? |
| 17:42.18 | josephscott | links are so 1999 ;-) |
| 17:44.05 | TimRiker | no idea who updates these: http://lds.org/handheld/newarchive/0,18495,344-1-142-2,00.html |
| 17:44.13 | tdeforest | the E-books link on the right side isn't a link |
| 17:44.33 | josephscott | probably no one, who wants to touch vignette at this point? |
| 17:44.34 | TimRiker | nods. we are doing a very poor job of making content available. |
| 17:45.04 | TimRiker | josephscott, note that sept 2011 is up there but not oct 2011 yet. |
| 17:45.18 | josephscott | noticed that |
| 17:45.27 | TimRiker | so someone is updating it |
| 17:49.24 | TimRiker | http://lds.org/handheld/whatisnew/0,18737,5290-1-1,00.html |
| 17:50.24 | josephscott | maybe it takes them awhile to "process" the content each month |
| 17:51.39 | TimRiker | apparently. I just have failed to find anyone that knows anything about that page. |
| 17:52.18 | scgallafent | That pages expired in 1995: <META HTTP-EQUIV="Expires" CONTENT="Tue, 20 Jun 1995 04:13:09 GMT"> |
| 17:52.19 | TimRiker | I'd like to know how many downloads those formats get. if any |
| 17:52.27 | TimRiker | hehe |
| 17:52.48 | TimRiker | expires in 1995 but copyright 2011 |
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| 17:59.29 | josephscott | guess they really don't want it cached |
| 18:13.37 | tdeforest | just discovered that this works in safari and firefox: a:hover:visited |
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| 18:43.04 | TimRiker | josephscott, if it was cached, it might be searchable and then people would find it. oh no! |
| 18:48.35 | macnewbold | that caching setting was probably correct when it was set up on Mon, 19 Jun 1995 |
| 18:48.43 | macnewbold | 24 hours is reasonable |
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| 18:53.59 | Inspired | so whats up? |
| 18:54.50 | scgallafent | For content that changes approximately monthly, it seems like they could have gone out to a whole day and not had many issues. |
| 18:54.52 | scgallafent | Hi Inspired. |
| 18:55.05 | Inspired | Hi |
| 18:55.50 | Inspired | so why it is so quite? |
| 18:56.24 | scgallafent | We're all working. :) |
| 18:56.32 | Inspired | ok |
| 19:19.03 | tdeforest | josephscott: thanks again for your efforts on swarm |
| 19:19.19 | josephscott | I haven't made anything actually work yet :-) |
| 19:19.51 | tdeforest | all the more reason to thank you for hanging in there ;) |
| 19:32.13 | macnewbold | oh, nice! just saw swarm had been updated. when I try to run it locally, I get array_merge() [http://localhost/swarm/function.array-merge]: Argument #1 is not an array in finder.php on line 82. |
| 19:32.37 | josephscott | yep, same error I ran into the other day |
| 19:33.33 | macnewbold | now that I re-read the README.txt, it mentions a joomla database and some joomla tables. /me doesn't have those :( |
| 19:33.58 | macnewbold | according to the log file that was committed into svn, someone else got those errors before too |
| 19:34.15 | macnewbold | josephscott: will you be attending UPHPU tonight by chance? |
| 19:34.39 | tdeforest | KFitz: i'm thinking that swarm will only be loosely connected to jooml/ldstech. in my previous wireframes, i showed the admin components of swarm as part of joomla. i think we should change that. i think the admin view as well as the tester view should all be one app with only links from projects to swarm. i think you mentioned this same concept recently but i want to make sure we're on the same page. |
| 19:34.58 | josephscott | not looking like it unfortunately, I picked up a cold and you guys don't need me coughing, sneezing, etc. all over the place |
| 19:39.51 | macnewbold | i'm sorry to hear that |
| 19:39.57 | macnewbold | on multiple levels |
| 19:47.58 | tdeforest | ~give josephscott a box of kleenex |
| 19:47.58 | infobot | ACTION gives a box of kleenex to josephscott |
| 19:51.54 | josephscott | thanks, I've been going through a lot of them |
| 20:16.45 | TimRiker | spends some time putting mobi files up for download |
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