| 01:49:55 | epac | slow day, hu ? |
| 01:50:29 | Disconnect | BAD day. |
| 01:50:31 | Disconnect | bad 7 days in fact. |
| 01:50:38 | volkam | check this out |
| 01:50:39 | epac | what happened ? |
| 01:50:43 | volkam | http://volkam.npis.net/xmas.jpg |
| 01:51:19 | Disconnect | monday, work cancelled parking passes. so I spent (literally) my last $170 on a parking pass. (its $350 if you go day-to-day) |
| 01:51:32 | Disconnect | tuesday, work laid us all off (down ot the founding 6, who are closing up shop). |
| 01:51:59 | Disconnect | fri, I took my laptop in in exchange for my severance and back pay (which was "in the mail") .. fortunately, it arrived Sat but I haven't seen if they are rubber yet ;) |
| 01:53:04 | Disconnect | in the middle, got an "interview" with a company that turned out to be basically a secretarial/finance temp firm. |
| 01:53:22 | volkam | what |
| 01:53:24 | volkam | what what |
| 01:53:42 | epac | where do you live ? I need a linux sysadmin in LA,CA, downtown santa monica... |
| 01:53:44 | volkam | thats why you should move to orego |
| 01:53:45 | volkam | oregon |
| 01:54:03 | volkam | epac: hire me ;) |
| 01:54:10 | epac | you in LA ? |
| 01:54:14 | Disconnect | then CRL shipped me an ipaq that fedex claims was delivered on Sat AM but I was up and the guy never showed. (since then been getting the runaround from them - if it wasn't for that, I'd say it was an honest misdelivery) |
| 01:54:18 | Disconnect | no DC/Baltimore |
| 01:54:28 | volkam | Portland ;\ |
| 01:54:29 | volkam | heh |
| 01:54:52 | volkam | epac: im just kidding |
| 01:55:01 | epac | i'm not :o) well.. now i am :o) |
| 01:55:03 | Disconnect | there are several houses w/ the same # (diff't streets) within a few miles. and it could have been a neighbor as well. but the way they are stalling... |
| 01:55:12 | volkam | well I live in portland |
| 01:55:19 | volkam | and Im only 17, but I do know my shit ;) |
| 01:55:26 | Disconnect | so yah, been a bad week. (Oh, and that interview - was a $10k pay cut, then at the interview it dropped another $10k..) |
| 01:57:04 | epac | ho man.. i know how you fell. something like that happened to me last april.. on TAX DAY ! |
| 01:57:23 | epac | felt like shit for a couple weeks, and now i'm doing ok... |
| 01:57:37 | Disconnect | got laid off last Jan, took a $8k pay cut but had a job w/in a week - w/ $4k of it written in as a raise @ 90 days, except they froze raises 30 days into it..) |
| 01:58:19 | Disconnect | ROCK the manager called w/ the courier on the line :) |
| 01:58:43 | volkam | bbl |
| 02:01:18 | volkam | oh yea disconnect I forgot |
| 02:01:25 | volkam | check out my wireless crap |
| 02:01:30 | volkam | http://volkam.npis.net/wireless/ |
| 02:03:21 | Disconnect | grr no go. driver is gonna be out this way tomorrow AM, will see if anything looks familiar, and manager will call after he gets in @ 1pm. claims forms, here I come. :( |
| 02:04:03 | Disconnect | http://volkam.npis.net/wireless/MVC-001Fa.JPG so far so good ;) |
| 02:04:19 | volkam | yes |
| 02:04:59 | Disconnect | orinoco. same cards I have here, same cards I used to get paid to support ;) |
| 02:05:06 | volkam | lol |
| 02:08:33 | volkam | cool eh |
| 02:08:38 | volkam | im accually shooting that link pretty far |
| 02:09:18 | volkam | http://volkam.npis.net/area.jpg |
| 02:09:32 | volkam | linksys ap is where its shooting |
| 02:11:59 | Disconnect | nice kit |
| 02:12:09 | volkam | kit? |
| 02:12:45 | Disconnect | equipment |
| 02:12:46 | Disconnect | gear |
| 02:12:47 | Disconnect | kit |
| 02:12:50 | volkam | ya |
| 02:49:59 | volkam | im back:D |
| 08:20:28 | DragonEagle | is away: good night |
| 13:12:24 | sgodsell | Hello guys how is the kiss seen? |
| 13:57:14 | flypiper | morning |
| 13:59:23 | sgodsell | Hello flypiper |
| 13:59:33 | flypiper | hey sean |
| 13:59:37 | sgodsell | How goes the battle today? |
| 14:00:13 | flypiper | haven't had anybody tell me yet....but it has stopped raining...that's an improvement!! |
| 14:01:07 | sgodsell | ;) |
| 14:01:49 | sgodsell | So I asked about an hour ago, how is kiss coming along. Do you know? |
| 14:02:05 | sgodsell | Everyone must be still asleep ;) |
| 14:02:49 | flypiper | all I can say is it get's sweeter....and smaller every day! |
| 14:03:11 | sgodsell | That is always a good thing |
| 14:03:25 | sgodsell | So what is the size now? |
| 14:03:38 | flypiper | gotta admit it's the fastest booting system I have ever seen.. |
| 14:03:51 | sgodsell | How long? |
| 14:03:56 | sgodsell | to boot |
| 14:24:27 | flypiper | been on hold now for 30 min with compaq tech support ..they are checking on my 3670.....one of their tricks " put you on hold till you hang up" |
| 14:25:16 | flypiper | ahhhh now turn around time is 1-2 weeks for repair.....sweet just to have the battery changed!!!! |
| 14:26:46 | sgodsell | lol |
| 14:27:21 | flypiper | glad I don't have an empire that it runs....LOL |
| 14:27:39 | sgodsell | So how are you testing kiss if you don't have your iPAQ right now? |
| 14:32:08 | flypiper | I got a couple 3650..that my service tech's use.....just kipped one for a while....he has been bitching..but:( |
| 14:33:11 | sgodsell | ;) |
| 14:33:23 | flypiper | they use intimate.....and network tools..mostly |
| 14:34:03 | flypiper | nice to use....instead of notebook |
| 14:34:24 | sgodsell | That is true. |
| 14:35:08 | sgodsell | I just wish the iPAQ had a little pop down keyboard like the sharps ;) |
| 14:35:31 | sgodsell | That would be really nice |
| 14:35:53 | flypiper | I saw a mini keyboard for the 3850...on the compaq site...but don't know anything about it..looks like it goes over the buttons |
| 14:36:20 | flypiper | prob ...some type of sleve slide in |
| 14:36:28 | sgodsell | Do you have the url handy? If not don't worry about it |
| 14:36:38 | flypiper | hang on a sec |
| 14:38:31 | flypiper | http://www.compaq.com/products/handhelds/pocketpc/options/keyboards.html |
| 14:39:16 | flypiper | they call it a mini keyboard |
| 14:40:19 | sgodsell | Ah, ok so it goes on the port on the bottom of the 3800 series |
| 14:40:53 | sgodsell | Micro Keyboard that fits on the bottom of the iPAQ to enable |
| 14:40:53 | sgodsell | thumb key entry |
| 14:41:12 | flypiper | ya....probably could be cabled |
| 14:42:18 | flypiper | that connector is different on the 38xx though.. |
| 14:43:34 | flypiper | the cradle has both serial and usb .......and a special adapter for power that plugs in to the connector |
| 14:43:39 | sgodsell | Ya, that is why it is only for the 3800 series. I think there is double the number of pins coming out of the 3800 series at the bottom. |
| 14:45:56 | flypiper | only thing I really don't like about the 3800 is no "hard" on-off switch... |
| 14:47:11 | flypiper | I guess that they expect it to be on......most of the time. |
| 14:47:28 | flypiper | to power off you have to hold 3 buttons for like 10 seconds |
| 14:48:46 | sgodsell | Are you serious? |
| 14:48:52 | flypiper | sounds like a coding nightmare to me.... |
| 14:49:05 | flypiper | yea......check one out |
| 14:49:59 | sgodsell | Well wait a second when you say off button, the same holds true for the 31,36,37 series as well |
| 14:50:17 | sgodsell | There really isn't an off button |
| 14:50:23 | sgodsell | It is a suspend button |
| 14:56:11 | bipolar | |
| 14:58:37 | sgodsell | Hello bipolar |
| 14:59:32 | bipolar | sgodsell: hiya! |
| 15:01:15 | flypiper | sgodsell: no I mean no power-off toggle switch...having the slide cover |
| 15:02:09 | sgodsell | Oh, ok flypiper |
| 15:02:20 | sgodsell | That makes sense in a way |
| 15:02:53 | sgodsell | if you have to go away on a holiday for longer than two weeks then you better leave your iPAQ plugged in ;) |
| 15:03:08 | flypiper | exactly...... |
| 15:04:11 | flypiper | and if your forgetful, like me.....your gonna need batteries |
| 15:04:38 | flypiper | is away....phone |
| 15:04:57 | sgodsell | Well the battery is real expensive on the iPAQ to replace. It is like 100US dollars |
| 15:05:08 | bipolar | sgodsell: made any progress on the persistent remfs stuff? :) |
| 16:50:27 | flypiper | back |
| 16:50:39 | Disconnect | is sorta here, but mostly jobhunting |
| 20:29:34 | DragonEagle | is away: nap time |
| 21:06:47 | Disconnect | WOOHOO whoever had my package just put it on my front porch!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:07:09 | bipolar | Disconnect: what package? |
| 21:07:32 | Disconnect | bipolar: ipaq from CRL. |
| 21:08:46 | bipolar | ahh |
| 21:09:51 | bipolar | I'm trying to bulild KDE 2.2.2 RPM's that have support for both Xinerama and MP# ripping via audiocd:/ |
| 21:09:59 | bipolar | What a pain in the ass. |
| 21:10:49 | Disconnect | had thought it was lost. |
| 21:12:40 | sgodsell | Hello guys ;) |
| 21:13:06 | sgodsell | So Disconnect How is the kiss situation? |
| 21:14:58 | BZFlag | and what the crap is it? ;-) |
| 21:15:25 | Disconnect | sgodsell: just took a turn for the better. more details tonight. (hadn't realized how bummed I was about that package) |
| 21:17:17 | sgodsell | BZFlag: Disconnect can correct me if I am wrong, but kiss is another distribution (like a familiar), only smaller and based on busy box, and will keep intimate in mind. So it will always work with it. I am sure Disconnect could fill you in better |
| 21:17:29 | Disconnect | thats most of it. |
| 21:17:42 | BZFlag | sweet. /me has write access to busybox. |
| 21:18:07 | BZFlag | been chatting with andersee almost continually over the last few days. |
| 21:18:09 | sgodsell | Cool |
| 21:18:15 | BZFlag | have you considered uClibc too? |
| 21:18:33 | Disconnect | BZFlag: uclibc breaks debian compatibility, which is another big goal. |
| 21:18:35 | sgodsell | I believe jacques was working on that |
| 21:19:03 | BZFlag | check the microwindows gui + viewml + kernel + pcmcia + bb + tinylogin we have on the TuxScreen. |
| 21:19:25 | BZFlag | the whole thing including bootloader and kernel fits in 4M of flash. |
| 21:19:41 | BZFlag | actually 3M of flash cause jffs2 root still has 1M available |
| 21:20:14 | sgodsell | Hmmm |
| 21:20:20 | BZFlag | Disconnect: I'd rather shoot for debian source package compatibility. ;-) |
| 21:20:44 | BZFlag | is timr@debian.org |
| 21:21:29 | BZFlag | we have tinyX running now if you prefer that. still in under 4M |
| 21:22:05 | BZFlag | that leaves you with 12M for mp3s on the ipaq. ;-) |
| 21:24:21 | sgodsell | Actually more if you do a mem=24m or mem=48m, then mount the unused portion of ram ;) |
| 21:24:52 | sgodsell | Mind you, you have to use load linux that way all the time or you lose the memory to linux ;) |
| 21:25:04 | sgodsell | Instead of using it for extra storage |
| 21:34:07 | Disconnect | flypiper: package showed up :) |
| 21:34:28 | Disconnect | flypiper: just appeared on my doorstep, unopened. |
| 21:34:32 | flypiper | excellent...... |
| 21:34:48 | Disconnect | flypiper: now dumb question. without activesync, how do I get the orinoco drivers into the ipaq? :( |
| 21:34:52 | flypiper | bet they found it in their truck.....where the driver misplaced it |
| 21:35:12 | Disconnect | probably |
| 21:35:20 | flypiper | sz |
| 21:35:36 | flypiper | you have nfs mount right |
| 21:35:38 | Disconnect | flypiper: using wince still, want to poke it a bit |
| 21:35:57 | flypiper | aaaahhhhhh |
| 21:36:40 | flypiper | not a ce expert.....got it off my 3670 ..15 min after opening the box |
| 21:37:42 | flypiper | I do know you don't want to slip mdrive in sleeve with ce running..unless you want to redo intimate |
| 21:37:58 | Disconnect | heh I'll remember that, definitely. |
| 21:38:19 | flypiper | not that it wipes it...just mounts the drive..then it's flushed |
| 21:39:18 | flypiper | might be wrong..but remember seeing an ftp server for ce....someplace.. |
| 21:39:55 | flypiper | need me to look for it?? |
| 21:40:25 | Disconnect | nah cuz I dunno how to get the drivers extracted anyway. :( |
| 21:40:48 | flypiper | 3700....man you got room now!! |
| 21:40:56 | Disconnect | thats the theory ;) |
| 21:41:13 | flypiper | don't know when mine will be here...maybe after christmas |
| 21:42:23 | flypiper | got the single pcmcia sleeve for it today...had a promo with it |
| 21:42:59 | Disconnect | cool.. |
| 21:44:22 | flypiper | 3700 got pocketpc2002 on it?? |
| 21:44:34 | Disconnect | seems to be wince3.0 |
| 21:45:01 | Disconnect | at least, I can't find anything that screams "pocketpc 2002" and I am finding stuff that says "WinCE 3.0.11171" |
| 21:45:49 | flypiper | got my 3850 with..yuk..ce to compare |
| 21:47:04 | Disconnect | whats 2002 say under settings->system->about? |
| 21:47:07 | flypiper | got ..settings...system...about |
| 21:47:45 | flypiper | Microsoft PocketPC ver 3.01117(build 11178) |
| 21:47:56 | Disconnect | exact same. so this must be 2002. |
| 21:48:04 | flypiper | yep |
| 21:48:24 | flypiper | CE using 6.91 Meg |
| 21:49:10 | flypiper | with 63.14 M avail? |
| 21:50:00 | Disconnect | under asset viewer -> memory, does it list as 128k flash block size? (the 3600 is 256k..) |
| 21:50:15 | flypiper | they use mosaic ...must be for everything.....and I think mosaic has x-related stuff |
| 21:50:23 | flypiper | lemme check |
| 21:51:16 | flypiper | Flash Chip type 28F128,,,,Block Size 128KB |
| 21:51:57 | Disconnect | all the 'commercial' browsers are licensed from mosaic.. |
| 21:52:07 | flypiper | K |
| 21:52:08 | Disconnect | check NS4.x about: some time |
| 21:52:19 | Disconnect | yah thats what I've got. wonder if jffs2 takes advantage of that or not. |
| 21:52:54 | flypiper | got bootblaster and shows bootldr 2.17.7 verified..but it does nothing when I reboot |
| 21:53:13 | flypiper | think that it has written bootldr in wrong place |
| 21:53:38 | flypiper | does your 3600 serial cable fit the 3700 |
| 21:53:50 | Disconnect | haven't tried the cable, but the cradle and expansion sleeves fit just fine. |
| 21:54:14 | flypiper | expansion sleeves fit all I think 3600-3700-3800 |
| 21:54:45 | flypiper | but 3800 only serial is in cradle...with usb 2 connectors |
| 21:55:29 | flypiper | need to check on just serial for it |
| 21:56:52 | BZFlag | 3800 connectors are different |
| 21:58:34 | flypiper | Disconnect: when you reboot...you get kinda whisle-bell.....after bootblaster-bootldr....mine kinda moans..then nothing but ce |
| 21:59:50 | flypiper | need to check for anything new-3800 specific |
| 22:03:19 | flypiper | timing is everything...jamey just announced 2.7.11 |
| 22:06:34 | Disconnect | can't get the ppp thing to work under 2002 |
| 22:09:05 | flypiper | gave up on getting it to work..cause ce shuts down after it doesn't get a response from CLIENT |
| 22:11:17 | Disconnect | in theory its supposed to get SERVER and all is well |
| 22:11:56 | flypiper | has the image changed any...or can I use last one I have? |
| 22:12:07 | flypiper | gonna flash 3650 |
| 22:20:49 | Disconnect | GOT IT :) |
| 22:20:59 | Disconnect | yah use that image still |
| 22:21:28 | flypiper | kool |
| 22:23:00 | bipolar_away | is away: I'm off to find myself. If you find me before I do, please tell me to wait here until I return. |
| 22:27:34 | flypiper | am flashing 2M task-boot...to look at some of your hany work...LOL |
| 22:28:51 | flypiper | has too much cotton between his ears...and can't remember so good some days |
| 22:31:05 | Disconnect | heh |
| 22:31:15 | Disconnect | was on the phone with a moron recruiter. |
| 22:39:13 | flypiper | damn...this task-boot image is sweeeet...I forgot how quick it was!!! |
| 22:39:50 | flypiper | 8 min flash= intimate |
| 22:40:19 | Disconnect | heh |
| 22:40:39 | flypiper | wonders if ce has worn Disconnect out yet????? |
| 22:41:10 | Disconnect | gzipping now |
| 22:41:27 | Disconnect | trying to figure out how to get it off. time to grab that ftp server I guess. |
| 22:41:37 | flypiper | aaaaaggggg......bootblaster |
| 22:42:41 | flypiper | lemmee see what bootblaster I got on 3850 |
| 22:43:49 | flypiper | I used 1.15 on 3850..... |
| 22:44:17 | flypiper | and I did all the backups--- just wonder now if they are empty |
| 22:45:30 | flypiper | got cf card...you can copy to? |
| 22:46:20 | flypiper | remember right...12M compressed...or so |
| 22:49:51 | Disconnect | cool ftpsrv.exe works :) |
| 22:49:59 | Disconnect | no cf I can use :( |
| 22:50:46 | flypiper | where you find that...I'll put it on 3850?? |
| 22:51:13 | Disconnect | gimme a sec, will find dl link. (page is japanese) |
| 22:51:19 | Disconnect | little ftp server for wince :) |
| 22:51:21 | flypiper | K |
| 22:51:29 | Disconnect | http://www.oohito.com/data/wince/FTPS006AP.ZIP |
| 22:51:40 | Disconnect | http://www.oohito.com/data/wince/FTPS006D.ZIP for sources (whee) |
| 22:52:30 | flypiper | thnks |
| 22:58:56 | Disconnect | halfway through ftp of wince_image. |
| 22:59:13 | Disconnect | whee. |
| 22:59:15 | flypiper | kool |
| 23:04:50 | flypiper | away..phone call |
| 23:05:49 | Disconnect | 2M to go. (boy this is slow.) |
| 23:11:06 | flypiper | back |
| 23:12:02 | flypiper | just time..like everything |
| 23:12:22 | Disconnect | yep. flashing bootldr now. |
| 23:12:32 | flypiper | takes a bit |
| 23:12:39 | Disconnect | cool "You appear to have a valid OHH Bootloader 2.16.20 in flash." |
| 23:12:53 | flypiper | kool |
| 23:13:07 | flypiper | now the true test |
| 23:13:21 | Disconnect | yep. I do in fact seem to have a valid bootldr. splash screen and all. :) |
| 23:13:43 | flypiper | great!! |
| 23:14:04 | sgodsell | Disconnect: Which iPAQ are you putting this on? |
| 23:14:07 | Disconnect | cool and it boots wince |
| 23:14:10 | Disconnect | sgodsell: 3700 |
| 23:14:22 | flypiper | what ver bootblaster you use? |
| 23:14:34 | sgodsell | Hmmm, that is the same as a 3600 only 32Mb of flash |
| 23:15:00 | Disconnect | 32/64 and bootldr 2.16.20 |
| 23:15:08 | flypiper | K |
| 23:17:03 | Disconnect | hrm. reset and boot via bootldr wipes memory. |
| 23:17:10 | Disconnect | (still under wince) |
| 23:17:12 | flypiper | yep |
| 23:17:38 | Disconnect | loads task-bootstrap-2.4.16 |
| 23:17:55 | flypiper | figured that was comming!!! |
| 23:18:09 | Disconnect | heh of course. |
| 23:18:52 | Disconnect | since intimate is my dev environment, I'd rather flash 2M and just *poof* intimate works, rather than flash 6M + orinoco drivers + install intimateboot + fix intimateboot ... |
| 23:19:17 | flypiper | it's sssswwwwweeeetttt !!! |
| 23:19:22 | Disconnect | will bbiab - gotta hook up the old sat receiver (tivo had to go back AGAIN - they replaced the hdd, which solved the original problem, but busted the modem..) |
| 23:55:43 | Disconnect | Mem: 63040 27456 35584 0 5604 12436 |
| 23:55:44 | Disconnect | yay |
| 23:55:46 | Disconnect | very yay |
| 23:56:00 | Disconnect | /dev/mtdblock/1 32M 7.7M 24M 25% /boot |
| 23:56:23 | flypiper | kewl...your the man now!! |
| 23:56:51 | flypiper | you'll find something to fill it with |
| 23:57:08 | Disconnect | ARGH sienna called to have the tivo deactivated, the old reciever activated... and the just cancelled the one up here GRR I hate dtv |
| 23:57:23 | Disconnect | ok evidently it was a reset. was halfway standing when it came back. |
| 23:58:41 | flypiper | that helps |
| 23:59:40 | Disconnect | is testing provides: now |
