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01:20.37 | Winny | o |
01:20.44 | RedBaron3 | n |
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01:20.55 | ndim | B |
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01:21.09 | Winny | y |
01:21.11 | Winny | nooo! |
01:21.13 | ndim | Admirarch: mellitus or something. cf. "diabetes mellitus" |
01:21.17 | Winny | you ruined it! |
01:21.23 | ndim | Moo. |
01:21.23 | RedBaron3 | S.O.S |
01:21.32 | Winny | Save our stuff! |
01:21.41 | ndim | Save Our Sleep! |
01:21.50 | RedBaron3 | ndim's doing it again.. |
01:22.02 | Winny | the pull of IRC is srtong :p |
01:22.06 | RedBaron3 | x.x |
01:24.47 | RedBaron3 | ~badminton birdie |
01:24.48 | ibot | ACTION keeps its eye on birdie, then lobs birdie over the net |
01:25.04 | RedBaron3 | gotta do that once. |
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01:55.55 | hiya | 3! |
02:14.08 | gn00bie | Admirarch: thanks :) Meliphilic is good enough |
02:15.23 | gn00bie | RedBaron3: heya |
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03:35.48 | redsoxfan90 | counter strike is pretty cool |
03:36.10 | gn00bie | ermm... no it is not |
03:36.19 | redsoxfan90 | whys that...? |
03:36.32 | gn00bie | precisely |
03:37.07 | redsoxfan90 | .... |
03:37.21 | gn00bie | lol |
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13:23.00 | [dmp] | thats too early. Mondays shouldnt start before tuesday 10am :) |
13:23.38 | TheRedBaron | ~[dmp]++ |
13:26.14 | Pommes | monday, tuesday, wednesday ... all the same ... 8:00 am - switch to zombie-state ... 17:00 pm - real-life begins |
13:27.13 | gn00bie | webserver does not run on Windows I hope |
13:29.15 | TheRedBaron | my webserver runs windows :) |
13:30.13 | gn00bie | win2k3 is 64 bit or not? |
13:30.26 | TheRedBaron | they have a 64bit flavor |
13:30.32 | gn00bie | meh |
13:30.39 | TheRedBaron | win 2k8 is 64bit |
13:30.48 | gn00bie | same thing :P |
13:31.15 | Pommes | ~gn00bie++ |
13:31.28 | gn00bie | danke ;) |
13:31.33 | Pommes | ~linux TheRedBaron |
13:31.42 | gn00bie | ~tux TheRedBaron |
13:31.56 | gn00bie | ~pooh |
13:31.57 | ibot | ACTION pooh poohs Winny the Pooh |
13:32.11 | TheRedBaron | evils! |
13:32.19 | Pommes | open your eyes! |
13:32.45 | gn00bie | I think I will go back to bed |
13:32.49 | gn00bie | sleep for some more time |
13:32.59 | Pommes | ~gn00bie++ |
13:33.05 | gn00bie | ciao |
13:33.08 | Pommes | sleep is so underestimated |
13:33.08 | gn00bie | :) |
13:33.14 | TheRedBaron | ~pommes++ |
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13:41.55 | [dmp] | gn00bie: nope, freebsd |
13:44.14 | ndim | ~pommes++ |
13:44.19 | ndim | ~gn00bie++ |
13:44.32 | ndim | ~TheRedBaron-- |
13:44.37 | ndim | (for the windows hugging) |
13:46.06 | Admirarch | You don't need reasons for ~TheRedBaron-- |
13:47.33 | ndim | ~Admirarch++ |
13:49.51 | TheRedBaron | oh the outrage! |
13:50.17 | TheRedBaron | but oh so succinct |
13:51.03 | Baroness | ~bomb mouse |
13:51.04 | ibot | ACTION drops a humongous exploding nuke on mouse |
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14:19.02 | moriah | ~wake menotume |
14:19.03 | ibot | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on menotume and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
14:19.16 | moriah | probably didnt work! |
14:21.50 | TheRedBaron | moriah: offer him starbucks and donuts |
14:22.29 | ndim | I guess there is nothing left. |
14:35.15 | moriah | hehe |
14:35.32 | moriah | are you kidding, the staff room is FULL of goodies |
14:37.55 | ndim | Paid by someone's medical bills. |
14:41.56 | Winny | hehe |
14:48.59 | moriah | :PP ndim |
14:49.12 | moriah | paid by drug companies |
14:49.17 | moriah | i didnt ask for it :) |
14:49.50 | moriah | TheRedBaron: I took your chips to work ;) |
14:50.58 | ndim | Well, where does a drug company get money from, if not from people's medical bills? |
14:52.26 | Winny | ndim: you should see "SiCKO" the movie |
14:53.47 | ndim | Winny: We have our own set of healthcare problems here, I don't need to import them from overseas. |
14:59.48 | ndim | Stuff like "We should check whether your heart will still be working in two months? Well, why don't you come by in... 9 months? Oh, you're privately insured? How about tomorrow afternoon, then?" |
15:01.50 | Baroness | hmm..donunts with green icing...seems just a little scary.. |
15:02.43 | catay | sounds toxic :p |
15:03.15 | ndim | If I see something green on something edible which is not immediately recongnizable as some plant leaf, I bet on mould. |
15:03.16 | catay | ndim: is healhcare completly privatized in Germany ? |
15:03.33 | ndim | catay: There is obligatory insurance. |
15:04.03 | catay | ah ok |
15:04.35 | ndim | catay: Certain kinds of state employees and people in the top 5% or 10% income percentile are allowed to insure themselves outside the public insurance system. |
15:04.48 | ndim | Those private insurance plans pay more to doctors. |
15:04.58 | ndim | (per patient) |
15:05.07 | catay | but it also gives them an advantage when they get hospitalized? |
15:05.23 | catay | like, they get in first and suchs when there is not less room ? |
15:05.25 | ndim | Yes, 1 or 2 bed rooms over 3 or 4 bed ones. |
15:05.54 | ndim | And access more senior doctors in the hospital and stuff. |
15:06.20 | catay | oh, that's not the case yet in Belgium |
15:06.46 | ndim | However, als 80 or 90% of people are insured via the obligatory public system, the largest part of total income for most doctors and hospitals still comes from those cheaper insurances. |
15:06.49 | catay | well, you can also take extrea insurrances |
15:07.24 | ndim | So basically, no one in the health care system could survive without those cheaply insured people, but they are still treated as second class citizens. |
15:08.11 | catay | but sooner or later I think it will change like how it is in the US |
15:08.29 | catay | completly privatized |
15:08.37 | ndim | If the doctor does the same thing to me as he does to my sister, he will bill me 2.3 times what he gets from my sister's insurer. |
15:09.40 | TheRedBaron | catay: actually, here in the US - healthcare is not completely privatized |
15:10.25 | catay | but most of it is no ? |
15:10.32 | ndim | All in all the public system requires so much bureaucracy that if one could get rid of that one could pay doctors twice as much without raising the insurance planes. |
15:10.34 | TheRedBaron | correct |
15:10.36 | ndim | plans. |
15:10.48 | TheRedBaron | catay: most of it - yes |
15:11.20 | ndim | The stupid thing about those public/obligatory insurances is that patients never get to see any bills. |
15:11.46 | ndim | I.e. they have no idea at all how much something may cost. |
15:11.47 | TheRedBaron | ndim: half the time, they don't want to |
15:11.51 | catay | well, in belgium you see bills, for what it's worth ofcousre |
15:11.57 | catay | for example, if I go to the dentist |
15:12.10 | TheRedBaron | here, they're just interested in paying the co-payment, and walking out with their treatment |
15:12.14 | catay | I will have to pay the full price |
15:12.19 | ndim | The privately insured people are billed and will then be refunded by their insurer. |
15:12.22 | catay | but I get more then half back afterwards |
15:12.49 | ndim | That goes for doctors' bills and drug purchases. |
15:13.17 | catay | yeah it's the same here , but with the public system |
15:13.27 | catay | also for medicine |
15:13.59 | catay | but the system is under a lot of pressure lately |
15:14.08 | ndim | They have been trying for years to beat a little sense into wasteful consumers of the public system, but that resulted in typical political results: Years of debate, and a new system whose drawbacks outweigh the benefits by far. |
15:14.26 | longhair | Is there any country that has a good system? I.E. most people are happy with it |
15:14.38 | catay | the main problem here is that we have a lot of old people |
15:14.55 | catay | more passive people compared to active ones |
15:15.02 | ndim | The british NHS is supposed to be much better than it is reputed to be. |
15:15.05 | catay | which lays a huge pressure on the systme |
15:16.46 | menotume | the wosrt part here is letigious people |
15:17.06 | menotume | is probably 70% of health care |
15:17.33 | moriah | litigious ;0 |
15:17.41 | menotume | not only the lawsuits, but the extra procedures hospitals do to try to avaoid them |
15:17.50 | moriah | and drs as well |
15:17.54 | menotume | yes |
15:17.54 | moriah | defensive medicine |
15:18.15 | ndim | Doctors customarily spend more than half their time on bureaocracy here. |
15:19.35 | ndim | Oh, and young resident doctors in hospitals get to work 80+ hours a week for little more than the cleaners get. I guess someone has to pay for the head doc's collection of Porsches. |
15:20.10 | ndim | As a result, many medical students do not become medical practitioners, but join the drug companies. |
15:20.34 | ndim | Or they leave to practise medicine in other countries. The UK and Norway seem to be quite popular. |
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15:30.34 | catay | Only one solution, don't get sick :) |
15:35.59 | longhair | My big problem with our current system is the burden it puts on the self-employed |
15:36.16 | longhair | If you want insurance, you have to buy it yourself, or hope your spouse has it |
15:37.02 | longhair | And if a family member has a serious disease, you can't afford the insurance, so you now can't have your own business |
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15:48.27 | Baroness | oh no! two inturders! |
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15:48.40 | RedBaron2 | *shakeshake* |
15:48.40 | Baroness | ~intruder hiya & RedBaron2 |
15:48.41 | ibot | ACTION points at hiya & RedBaron2 and bawks "Intruder! Intruder! Intruder!" |
15:49.15 | RedBaron2 | hmm |
15:49.18 | ndim | Baroness: Nice typo. |
15:49.29 | RedBaron2 | that's what i was thinking :P |
15:49.36 | Baroness | hmph |
15:49.46 | RedBaron2 | lol |
15:49.46 | Birdie | dont you love typos |
15:49.47 | Baroness | i typed to fast....:P |
15:49.57 | hiya | ^^ |
15:50.51 | RedBaron2 | i'm munching on blueberries, rasberries, and strawberries :) |
15:51.22 | hiya | wow, im doing the same, thats just odd |
15:51.26 | moriah | :P rb2 |
15:51.29 | hiya | bout out of strawberries though |
15:51.36 | RedBaron2 | good stuff |
15:51.45 | hiya | picked them all yesterday :) |
15:51.48 | RedBaron2 | nessy, they're REEEEEAALLLY good |
15:51.54 | RedBaron2 | how's work? |
15:51.54 | hiya | love overlapping berry seasons |
15:51.55 | RedBaron2 | :P |
15:51.58 | hiya | they are amazing ^^ |
15:52.18 | RedBaron2 | oh yea |
15:52.44 | RedBaron2 | oh, and drinking pinnapple juice too :D |
15:52.57 | hiya | grr, got me one-upped |
15:53.06 | hiya | im drinking fake lemonade |
15:53.10 | Baroness | ~bonk RedBaron2 |
15:53.10 | ibot | ACTION bonks RedBaron2 over the head |
15:53.27 | Baroness | meanie! making me hungry...wishing i wasn't at work! and instead me visiting my Aunt! |
15:53.36 | RedBaron2 | mmmmmmmmmmmm... |
15:53.39 | RedBaron2 | yummy |
15:53.51 | RedBaron2 | i should get some grapes too.. |
15:54.06 | hiya | ooh, good idea |
15:54.11 | RedBaron2 | brb.. |
15:54.17 | hiya | brb |
15:54.23 | Baroness | hmph...and pineapple juice?!?! |
15:54.48 | Baroness | and Aunt's famous fruit salads?? so not fair :-/ |
15:55.00 | Baroness | mom!!! its my turn to go visit them next! :-D |
15:55.46 | gn00bie | ~bonk Baroness |
15:55.47 | ibot | ACTION bonks Baroness over the head |
15:55.48 | RedBaron2 | voila! |
15:55.53 | RedBaron2 | grapes! |
15:56.03 | Baroness | ~poke gn00bie |
15:56.04 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind gn00bie, pokes gn00bie repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
15:56.08 | hiya | <--- all out of grapes :( |
15:56.12 | hiya | u have it made up there rb2 |
15:56.15 | RedBaron2 | she went out and bought me a case of each :) |
15:56.18 | gn00bie | Arby: good work! |
15:56.28 | RedBaron2 | gn00bie; high-five! |
15:56.33 | Grumpfy | ohhhhh..the mutant speaks french today! :P |
15:56.43 | RedBaron2 | X.X |
15:56.51 | RedBaron2 | i do? |
15:56.55 | Grumpfy | voila |
15:56.58 | RedBaron2 | oh |
15:57.00 | RedBaron2 | go me! |
15:57.02 | Birdie | bonjour grumpfy |
15:57.12 | Baroness | ~annoy RedBaron2 |
15:57.13 | ibot | ACTION dances around RedBaron2, poking whenever possible, tickling or doing whatever necessary to annoy RedBaron2 to the maximum amount |
15:57.13 | Grumpfy | Tcho birdo! ;) |
15:57.47 | RedBaron2 | mmmm |
15:57.48 | Baroness | ~silence RedBaron2 |
15:57.48 | ibot | ACTION shoves an apple in RedBaron2's mouth, shoves a spit through ... well, uhm, anyway ... then builds a nice fire and starts roasting |
15:57.56 | RedBaron2 | ooh, an apple to? |
15:57.57 | Baroness | oh my |
15:58.02 | gn00bie | Baroness: not eating is good for you, remember the 40 lbs? |
15:58.12 | Birdie | it was only 40? |
15:58.15 | Baroness | ~bonk gn00bie |
15:58.16 | ibot | ACTION bonks gn00bie over the head |
15:58.17 | Baroness | grr! |
15:58.21 | Baroness | ~badminton birdie |
15:58.22 | ibot | ACTION keeps its eye on birdie, then lobs birdie over the net |
15:58.35 | RedBaron2 | hey tweeter |
15:58.44 | Birdie | hey baronbuddybudicfbudbuddyboi |
15:58.47 | Baroness | *sniff* everyone is picking one me! :-/ |
15:58.52 | RedBaron2 | care for some strawberries? |
15:58.53 | Birdie | yea they are so mean |
15:58.57 | Birdie | hmmmm |
15:59.00 | Birdie | of course! |
15:59.08 | RedBaron2 | here you go! just don't give them to nessy.. |
15:59.13 | Baroness | hmph |
15:59.14 | Birdie | dont worry |
15:59.16 | Baroness | brothers....... |
15:59.20 | Birdie | i always keep those to myself |
15:59.23 | Birdie | i'm not a brother! |
15:59.31 | Birdie | (thankfully) |
15:59.33 | Birdie | keep that in mind!:)à |
15:59.41 | Baroness | lol...... |
15:59.54 | RedBaron2 | lol |
16:00.09 | RedBaron2 | ~poke grumpfle |
16:00.10 | ibot | ACTION cuts down a small tree, sneaks up behind grumpfle, pokes grumpfle repeatedly, hilarity ensues. |
16:00.59 | Grumpfy | ouch! |
16:01.09 | RedBaron2 | :D |
16:01.13 | Grumpfy | ~bad RedBaron2 |
16:01.14 | ibot | Bad RedBaron2, bad! No cookie for you! |
16:01.27 | RedBaron2 | don't need cookies..i have fruit! haha |
16:02.39 | Baroness | ~fight RedBaron2 for fruit |
16:02.39 | ibot | ACTION laughs as RedBaron2 for fruit reboots gateway/web/cgi-irc/zeebrothers.net/x-8e090e939de02cb0 sending baroness into the aether |
16:02.41 | gn00bie | Birdie: it might have been more |
16:02.46 | Baroness | oh |
16:02.57 | RedBaron2 | lol |
16:03.00 | Baroness | hmph |
16:03.05 | Birdie | i wouldnt be surprised |
16:03.09 | Birdie | as brother i see it every day:( |
16:03.11 | RedBaron2 | well, that was interesting |
16:03.31 | Baroness | ~shoot gn00bie & birdie |
16:03.32 | ibot | ACTION shoots gn00bie & birdie in the foot with a frozen turkey cannon! |
16:03.47 | Birdie | sniff |
16:03.51 | RedBaron2 | frozen turkeys? |
16:03.55 | Birdie | a frozen turkey cannon? |
16:03.56 | Birdie | lol |
16:04.15 | RedBaron2 | interesting |
16:04.38 | gn00bie | yeah, turkey is good for you |
16:04.45 | gn00bie | it is a lean source of protien |
16:04.48 | RedBaron2 | i like chikens better.. |
16:04.52 | RedBaron2 | *bawkbawk |
16:05.02 | gn00bie | shhhh |
16:05.06 | gn00bie | you will scare Birdie |
16:05.13 | Birdie | sniff |
16:05.15 | RedBaron2 | cool.. |
16:05.17 | Birdie | i feel like baroness |
16:05.21 | RedBaron2 | *BAWK BAWK!!* |
16:05.26 | Birdie | and thats not good:( |
16:05.31 | gn00bie | I suspect that Birdie is a chick(en) |
16:05.37 | Baroness | yikes... |
16:05.39 | Birdie | chick lol |
16:05.39 | RedBaron2 | lmao |
16:05.50 | Birdie | lol and if you say "chick" sportchick get pinged |
16:06.00 | RedBaron2 | really? |
16:06.11 | Birdie | <Birdie> chick lol |
16:06.11 | Birdie | -SportChick- I'm sorry, but I'm away (Away: Screen is detached, but messages are logged) |
16:06.14 | gn00bie | yup, she does |
16:06.18 | RedBaron2 | cool |
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16:09.21 | gn00bie | Bar(n)oness |
16:09.31 | gn00bie | Barn |
16:09.56 | gn00bie | there is a pun somewhere, but it escapes me right now |
16:10.33 | RedBaron2 | hmm..i wonder |
16:10.38 | Baroness | on no there isn't....it escapes you..because it just doesnt exist |
16:10.50 | gn00bie | eh |
16:10.57 | gn00bie | that is an interesting proposition |
16:11.36 | RedBaron2 | kind of a preposterous one as well.. |
16:13.05 | RedBaron2 | wait! nessy!! |
16:13.19 | RedBaron2 | you're forgetting about your diet! |
16:13.21 | RedBaron2 | :X |
16:14.31 | hiya | got time to look for a match baron? |
16:14.39 | RedBaron2 | i think so |
16:15.17 | hiya | go public bzf? |
16:15.57 | RedBaron2 | ff on |
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16:28.13 | lagdog | g'day |
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17:00.10 | RedBaron2 | bird, bzf 58 |
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21:57.32 | lagdog | woof? |
21:57.59 | CBG | meow |
21:58.08 | lagdog | ;) |
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22:31.04 | ndim | Moo. |
22:31.19 | Winny | MOOO |
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23:07.03 | moriah | menotume ping |
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23:09.08 | lagdog | MOM!!!!!!!!!!!!11 |
23:09.15 | kierra | :) |
23:09.21 | kierra | howdy |
23:09.45 | kierra | hello cutie |
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