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02:39.48 | kierra | meno? |
02:52.15 | kierra | menotume ping |
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11:27.57 | kierra | cbg? |
12:23.33 | kierra | menotume ping |
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13:42.55 | kierra | my pimpinella !!!!! |
13:43.22 | Pimpinella | hi kierra :) |
13:43.47 | Pimpinella | hope you're fine :) |
13:44.10 | kierra | i am |
13:44.22 | kierra | good to see you |
13:45.06 | Pimpinella | i've been a little busy latey, not much time for bz-buizness |
13:45.25 | kierra | spring planting |
13:45.33 | kierra | fields to prepare |
13:46.02 | quantumdot | orange ping |
13:46.45 | Pimpinella | not yet, we're boing to build something here though, and i had a lot to prepare and plan for it |
13:46.54 | Pimpinella | s/boing/going |
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14:17.57 | kierra-away | it would seem to me that if you cant take a joke, you shouldnt read the logs |
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14:22.28 | spooch | hui :-) |
14:22.57 | kierra-away | hi |
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14:33.35 | Pimpinella | who should read the logs? alex? |
14:34.17 | kierra-away | uhoh |
14:36.59 | orange | quantumdot: pong |
14:37.10 | orange | hi all |
14:38.35 | kierra-away | hi O |
14:42.00 | quantumdot | hey orange |
14:42.16 | orange | hi qd, what's up? |
14:42.20 | quantumdot | just wanted to thank you for the ducati post |
14:42.46 | orange | oh, sure... it wasn't all me. I had several others back me up before I posted it. |
14:43.17 | quantumdot | i will be announcing it on GU forum. I wish the games played on Molez's server to be deleted from the official list |
14:43.38 | orange | yeah, it's *so* weird how people are treating molez |
14:43.41 | quantumdot | some people have matched there and I do not feel is correct to consider matches from non official servers |
14:44.09 | orange | what on earth do you do about historical matches involving (now known) cheaters, too? |
14:44.12 | orange | nothing, I guess |
14:44.16 | quantumdot | your post opens me the path to delete those matches |
14:44.20 | orange | the whole 1vs1 tournament, for example |
14:44.33 | Pimpinella | hm, news about molez? |
14:44.56 | orange | pimpinella, not surprising news about molez |
14:44.58 | orange | cheating |
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14:45.06 | Pimpinella | recently? |
14:45.08 | orange | more surprising is carnage, but even that not too surprising, since he cheated before |
14:45.15 | quantumdot | i am considering banning carnage form GU league too, molez is already since Xmas insident as well as DB |
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14:45.39 | orange | Pimpinella: the logs in question are from the end of january, the discovery was recent |
14:45.58 | orange | Pimpinella: http://my.bzflag.org/league/index.php?link=bzforums&forumid=5&threadid=1305& |
14:46.04 | quantumdot | i think the only way to proceed with league if we want them to continue and be fun, it is to ban non trusted players |
14:46.07 | Pimpinella | oh, yes. i knew that |
14:46.22 | Pimpinella | he was also cheating using another callsign |
14:46.28 | orange | quantumdot: that's my goal, is to get known cheaters banished |
14:46.32 | orange | it's the ONLY way to stop them right now |
14:46.59 | orange | if people let cheaters back in, that sends the message that it's OK |
14:47.10 | quantumdot | i think, as far as leagues are concernned, we should try to be based on trusted |
14:47.17 | orange | molez, db |
14:47.22 | quantumdot | not trusted players should be removed |
14:47.40 | orange | molez came back, as blazer, and started the same old thing |
14:47.48 | Pimpinella | db payed a price, so i allowed him to come back |
14:47.49 | quantumdot | DB, Molez are banned since Xmas as i sad (from GU league) |
14:48.15 | Pimpinella | molez is different, it seems he just likes to cause trouble |
14:48.19 | orange | I still believe db never used the subtle cheats (which I consider to be FAR worse than god-mode) |
14:48.23 | quantumdot | now i will set canage as untrusted |
14:48.35 | orange | carnage's global login is already disabled |
14:48.40 | orange | so he can't play as carnage anyway |
14:49.11 | orange | but for all the mess db caused, I find it very hard to forgive him, though I don't think he cares |
14:49.17 | Pimpinella | yeah, i don't think db used subtle either, and at least he had a (stupid) reason to start the cheating offenses |
14:49.25 | orange | I haven't spoken to him a single time since the christmas fiasco |
14:49.39 | quantumdot | i have talked to him |
14:49.42 | orange | ridiculous number of hours wasted on their mess, and they had just a little too much fun being rude and ugly to people |
14:49.43 | quantumdot | it was disappointing |
14:50.11 | orange | if he was just trying to make a point about the cheating, he didn't need to come to irc and spew filth, and join servers just to be ugly |
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14:50.30 | quantumdot | i just wanted to point out that, since a Karma system is not implemented or forseen, we should build up one ourselves |
14:50.51 | orange | quantumdot: I understand... banning them from the league is certainly the first step |
14:50.54 | orange | leagues |
14:52.03 | quantumdot | leagues are based on trust or it is hopeless, so why not ban molez from ducati? |
14:52.32 | orange | yeah, I'm not clear on why people trust him even a little |
14:52.43 | orange | I guess people can change, but he clearly has no desire to do so |
14:54.39 | quantumdot | and then there is more, the tintank client is being ditributed |
14:54.49 | orange | yep |
14:54.56 | quantumdot | this can only be aimed at harming the leagues |
14:55.02 | Pimpinella | molez uses dynamic ip and dynamic hostmark |
14:55.20 | Pimpinella | banning him isn't easy at all |
14:55.40 | quantumdot | got to run - i have to lecture |
14:55.42 | quantumdot | :) |
14:55.52 | orange | cu |
14:56.05 | Pimpinella | and other than db he doesn't respect the ban |
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14:58.06 | orange | Pimpinella: you're right molez can't be banned |
14:58.22 | orange | but if he comes back to the league he can be recognized |
14:59.03 | Pimpinella | sure, but what can you do if the teams accept him as opponent? |
14:59.24 | orange | if they know he is a cheater and match against him anyway? Nothing. |
14:59.24 | Pimpinella | they _knew_ it was him and still played matches |
14:59.45 | orange | but how do we know that everyone knows? Isn't there a responsibility to somehow let people know, like new folks? |
15:00.21 | Pimpinella | yes, there is |
15:00.42 | orange | that's what quantumdot was saying... there's no karma system, so doesn't the league itself have a responsibility to kick out the cheaters? |
15:00.58 | eXtreme | even janis is ther |
15:00.59 | eXtreme | oops |
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15:03.09 | CBG | kierra-away: yes? |
15:03.24 | kierra-away | no |
15:03.37 | kierra-away | monitoring |
15:03.45 | CBG | o.O |
15:03.45 | kierra-away | why? |
15:03.56 | CBG | earlier you called my name... |
15:04.00 | CBG | I just got back from college... |
15:04.12 | CBG | [11:27am] <kierra> cbg? |
15:04.16 | kierra-away | yes, i heard about you yesterday |
15:04.29 | CBG | that sounds bad :( |
15:04.43 | kierra-away | it wasnt positive |
15:04.48 | kierra-away | ;( |
15:04.50 | eXtreme | http://pastebin.com/612465 |
15:04.52 | CBG | can't think what I did yesterday, didnt play much bz at all |
15:05.03 | CBG | saturday I played a lot, maybe that's what you mean? |
15:05.05 | kierra-away | maybe the day before then |
15:05.09 | CBG | right |
15:05.10 | CBG | :( |
15:05.37 | CBG | eXtreme: what is that? |
15:06.15 | eXtreme | janis asking for cheats.. |
15:06.26 | eXtreme | from whoever lolcheats is |
15:06.27 | CBG | ooookay |
15:07.25 | CBG | kierra-away: what did I do this time? I can't remember much at all that happened this weekend. |
15:08.49 | AlexandrTheGreat | well, for one thing you lost 15 matches in 1.5 days, a new world record |
15:09.09 | CBG | AlexandrTheGreat: man |
15:09.12 | kierra-away | have you received any bzmails about it , cbg |
15:09.18 | AlexandrTheGreat | i've called the guiness people |
15:09.22 | CBG | ... |
15:09.28 | CBG | kierra-away: i'll check in a bit |
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15:17.45 | CBG_ | back. :/ |
15:17.52 | CBG_ | what was the last thing I said? |
15:21.04 | CBG_ | anyone? |
15:21.16 | orange | 10:09:28 <CBG> kierra-away: i'll check in a bit |
15:21.23 | CBG_ | k, ty orange |
15:21.32 | orange | sure |
15:23.46 | CBG_ | AlexanderTheGreat, I did not accuse stum of cheating, unless I have a completely twisted recollection of what happened. |
15:23.49 | CBG_ | I just didn't understand how he didnt die - I did not accuse him of cheating! |
15:23.51 | CBG_ | I was actually suspecting that the lagstats are totally wrong which has occurred to me before... |
15:24.30 | orange | the hysteria begins... and no, I'm not picking on you CBG, but this is how it's going to start |
15:24.45 | orange | suspicions, lies, allegations |
15:25.25 | orange | people don't realize the true damage that molez has done yet |
15:25.42 | orange | and still he's being welcomed back by some with open arms |
15:25.53 | CBG_ | hmm |
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15:30.54 | orange | hi tokimi |
15:32.44 | tokimi | hey orange |
15:32.50 | CBG_ | hey :) |
15:32.55 | kierra-away | hi toki |
15:33.51 | kierra | orange |
15:35.46 | SportChick | orange: the fact is, molez never really left. Even without the ability to use his known nick, he's been here the whole time. |
15:35.53 | orange | yep |
15:35.56 | orange | he's not bannable |
15:36.03 | orange | but he is recognizable |
15:36.17 | kierra | only by admins who can see ip |
15:36.42 | kierra | i didnt know till yest that bzfire is molez |
15:36.50 | CBG_ | wow |
15:36.53 | orange | me either, but I never had reason to look |
15:36.55 | CBG_ | I didn't know till just now. |
15:39.01 | SportChick | I didn't know for sure until yesterday, but had my suspicions |
15:39.20 | kierra | i didnt know ducati-style was molez's server till yest |
15:39.21 | tokimi | hmm, my lack of being on is showing... never seen bzfire |
15:39.30 | CBG_ | Couldn't his IP be banned? |
15:39.37 | orange | he's dynamic |
15:39.39 | SportChick | I remember when he first showed up, thinking it was molez...but over time, he was nice and friendly and helpful so I assumed I was mistaken |
15:39.40 | orange | aol uk |
15:39.51 | SportChick | CBG_: no, he's on a dynamic ip |
15:39.53 | orange | molez is playing the "I'm a good guy" game |
15:39.58 | SportChick | CBG_: he never has the same IP twice |
15:40.06 | CBG_ | SportChick: ok, fair enough. |
15:40.16 | CBG_ | But in that case, how can someone tell it is him by his IP? |
15:40.27 | tokimi | its a UK ip |
15:40.34 | orange | CBG_: a skilled "new" player shows up on an AOL UK IP, it's molez |
15:40.48 | CBG_ | heh, ok |
15:41.03 | kierra | the first 2 sets of numbers are the same |
15:41.35 | CBG_ | ok |
15:42.39 | AlexandrTheGreat | cbg... |
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15:42.58 | AlexandrTheGreat | "stump never dies" "all shots go thru" "WTF" |
15:43.08 | CBG_ | AlexandrTheGreat: I'm typing a long bzmail-reply... |
15:43.15 | AlexandrTheGreat | genzo accused him of cheating |
15:43.39 | AlexandrTheGreat | i'll skip the profanity one |
15:43.55 | AlexandrTheGreat | k |
15:44.04 | Pimpinella | stumpgrinder? |
15:44.06 | AlexandrTheGreat | yes |
15:44.12 | AlexandrTheGreat | stum is an honest guy |
15:44.36 | CBG_ | yes |
15:44.42 | tokimi | not only do we have real cheat clients out there, but now every one is spooked and jumping at shadows |
15:44.49 | AlexandrTheGreat | yep |
15:44.51 | Pimpinella | there's at least _one_ hint that he might use a customized client, he makes viper crash whenever he joins |
15:45.18 | AlexandrTheGreat | i thought you worked that out with stum, pimpi |
15:45.20 | orange | tokimi: yep, that's molez *real* legacy |
15:45.42 | kierra | he said he would destroy bz |
15:46.02 | kierra | and he is coming close to destroying the community |
15:46.08 | tokimi | a world of fear and suspicion... sounds oddly familiar |
15:46.14 | Pimpinella | AlexandrTheGreat: yeah, but could never solve it, or lrts say, i never found time to track the bug |
15:46.15 | orange | yeah, well, bz *is* the community, to most of us |
15:46.37 | CBG_ | right. |
15:46.43 | Pimpinella | there's another player from australia killing viper on join |
15:46.46 | AlexandrTheGreat | i would be extremely surprised if he customized his client in any way |
15:47.10 | Pimpinella | at least he seems to be a very nice guy |
15:48.28 | AlexandrTheGreat | i'm prejudiced, since he's my team leader, but i trust hiim completley |
15:48.38 | Pimpinella | ic |
15:52.58 | AlexandrTheGreat | he doesn't even use ME |
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15:53.37 | Pimpinella | ME isn't quite as popular on GU, is it? |
15:53.41 | tokimi | brb coffee |
15:53.48 | CBG_ | Pimpinella: right. |
15:53.55 | AlexandrTheGreat | no? |
15:54.01 | AlexandrTheGreat | i thought it was |
15:54.06 | CBG_ | I don't think it is such an issue. |
15:54.18 | CBG_ | We don't have accel limits, anyway. |
15:54.24 | orange | mmmm, coffee |
15:54.28 | Pimpinella | it's much harder to handle |
15:59.57 | tokimi | back |
16:00.04 | tokimi | mmm, super thick coffee |
16:00.15 | Pimpinella | hmpf |
16:00.44 | AlexandrTheGreat | i will be back. i have some things i have to do |
16:00.50 | AlexandrTheGreat | i still love u cbg |
16:00.50 | CBG_ | AlexandrTheGreat: bzmail just sent. |
16:00.51 | AlexandrTheGreat | :) |
16:00.53 | CBG_ | :) |
16:01.02 | AlexandrTheGreat | sheep or no sheep |
16:01.21 | AlexandrTheGreat | cu later |
16:01.24 | tokimi | to sheep, or not to sheep |
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16:02.28 | tokimi | have the devs said any thing other than the latest graphics? |
16:05.06 | orange | it comes down to who has time to make this effort |
16:05.17 | orange | several devs are complaining quite vocally about timriker's lack of involvement and direction |
16:05.34 | orange | not quite that explicitly, mind you, but quite obviously |
16:05.40 | tokimi | hrm |
16:05.51 | tokimi | are there even any good ideas on how to combat it? |
16:05.57 | orange | sure, just take it all server-side |
16:06.02 | orange | all the collision stuff |
16:06.10 | orange | poof, no thin tank cheats |
16:06.17 | tokimi | can the servers handle the traffic? |
16:06.46 | orange | I'd say yes... currently the load from a bzflag server is about 0, even on the very oldest hardware |
16:07.01 | tokimi | really |
16:07.09 | orange | yeah, it's bandwidth that's the killer for servers |
16:07.11 | tokimi | ok, so it boils downt to teh question of time |
16:07.12 | orange | and this won't increase it |
16:08.55 | JBdiGriz | The devs have been complaining about Tim's lack of involvement and direction for a couple of years. |
16:09.15 | orange | seems to be getting more open and ... not quite hostile, but close |
16:09.45 | JBdiGriz | I can point you to a couple of logs from 2 years back, which were far more open and hostile. |
16:10.08 | orange | hehe, OK :-) |
16:10.10 | orange | nothing changes though |
16:11.10 | JBdiGriz | yeah, that's the truth. |
16:11.58 | tokimi | nothing ever really changes any way |
16:12.01 | tokimi | :S |
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16:13.28 | JBdiGriz | Although, JeffM did try to start a separate project with the idea of fixing a number of these problems. |
16:13.29 | orange | he's still working on it |
16:13.29 | orange | well, he's still working on some new project.. I see commits on a regular basis |
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16:21.23 | Pimpinella | JeffM has always some side projects |
16:22.21 | Pimpinella | however having all collision control serverside would make lag problems much worse |
16:22.38 | Pimpinella | and lag is still much more a problem than cheaters |
16:23.13 | Pimpinella | Mon Mar 20 16:06:22 2006 |
16:23.13 | Pimpinella | Reported by dd if=/dev/urandom: Someone found a bug in bzflag, i don't know if its already reported, but anyway... |
16:23.26 | Pimpinella | i love helpful reports... |
16:23.33 | tokimi | ugh |
16:23.34 | CBG | heh |
16:28.10 | tokimi | i think i should get some pet project too ;) |
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17:05.44 | JBdiGriz | Having the collision detection at the server wouldn't make lag worse, just different. It would appear in your radar that you can dodge shots, but in fact you would be hit, because of the lag difference. |
17:06.07 | CBG | o.O |
17:06.27 | JBdiGriz | The thought is this would punish people with worse lag, as opposed to now when the people with better lag are at a disadvantage. |
17:06.39 | orange | think of the shots as become proximity shells instead of requiring a direct hit |
17:06.52 | orange | and the higher your lag, the more the shots 'notice' you :-) |
17:07.49 | JBdiGriz | I'm not sure if you would be equally 'noticed' on all sides. It may be that you are just displaced. |
17:08.04 | orange | yeah, I'm sure you would not be |
17:08.32 | orange | but the server can use some very minor predictive stuff to help, I'd think |
17:09.24 | JBdiGriz | The predictive stuff assumes that you haven't changed direction (e.g. dodged to avoid an incoming bullet). |
17:09.59 | orange | if direction changes aren't instantaneous, then the predictions won't be as bad |
17:10.16 | orange | i.e., if it takes 100ms or so to go from full forward to full reverse |
17:10.26 | JBdiGriz | OTOH, the lag difference wouldn't be between client and client, it would be between client and server. That should appear to be better. |
17:10.49 | orange | and it will be the lag difference, not the lag sum |
17:10.55 | orange | if I'm thinking of this correctly |
17:10.56 | JBdiGriz | Heh, constant momentum flag. I'm sure people would be appreciative. |
17:11.06 | orange | JBdiGriz: that's what all the -a settings are doing now |
17:11.40 | JBdiGriz | I'll have to look at those settings. |
17:14.18 | JBdiGriz | It is tempting to add in some code to do collision detection for my own bullets and other tanks in my client. I'm not sure what I would be able to determine from those statistics yet. |
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18:09.22 | kierra | hi birdie , mahdi |
18:09.41 | mahdi | hi kierra |
18:09.51 | kierra | hello :) |
18:09.57 | Birdie | hey |
18:10.52 | mahdi | How are you kierra? |
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18:31.03 | kierra | i'm fine |
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21:14.15 | kierra | hi |
21:14.20 | tokimi | hi |
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21:15.02 | tokimi | whats up |
21:16.34 | kierra | nothing much |
21:16.49 | kierra | just flaked oatmeal for the week |
21:17.07 | tokimi | (good thing zantac and prilosec is non-addictive keirra) |
21:17.20 | kierra | ? |
21:17.33 | kierra | fresh oatmeal is to die for |
21:17.36 | tokimi | mmmm |
21:17.55 | kierra | makes the best pancakes |
21:18.14 | tokimi | i like oatmeal cookies |
21:18.26 | kierra | it was fun feeding our guests last week |
21:18.49 | kierra | we had 9 extra teens here |
21:18.50 | tokimi | ooo |
21:18.52 | tokimi | how did that go |
21:18.59 | kierra | it wnet great |
21:19.07 | kierra | they loved my cookihng |
21:19.19 | tokimi | ooo |
21:19.21 | kierra | :) typical teen boys |
21:19.22 | tokimi | nice compliment |
21:19.35 | kierra | feed them and they're happy |
21:19.44 | tokimi | lol |
21:19.46 | orange | 9 extra, wow |
21:19.51 | tokimi | i must not be a typical guy |
21:19.52 | orange | that's a big jump |
21:20.06 | kierra | andthey played paint ball out the whazoo |
21:20.22 | kierra | they thought it was cool that i played an internet game |
21:20.25 | tokimi | heard they liked to hit JJ's car |
21:21.10 | tokimi | brb, cookies |
21:21.11 | kierra | yes, paintball splotches all over |
21:21.33 | kierra | orange, they ate like no tomorrow |
21:22.35 | tokimi | see, i dont get that |
21:22.36 | kierra | a great group of boys though |
21:22.43 | kierra | very respectful |
21:22.51 | tokimi | when i was on my highschool tennis team, i still couldnt eat that much |
21:23.24 | kierra | one kid was 6 ft, built and only 13 |
21:23.44 | kierra | maybe 5'11" |
21:24.00 | kierra | not quite as tall as rb2 |
21:24.14 | tokimi | ugh, i feel short now |
21:24.59 | kierra | they liked the way i drove :) |
21:25.10 | tokimi | oh? |
21:25.34 | tokimi | you a fast reckless driveR? |
21:25.41 | kierra | ask trb sometime |
21:25.50 | tokimi | :S |
21:25.51 | kierra | and take his answer with a grain of salt |
21:25.53 | kierra | but |
21:26.09 | kierra | zongo said i would be at home on the autoban |
21:26.14 | kierra | but i dont speed |
21:26.21 | tokimi | :S |
21:27.38 | kierra | i have this mercury that handles nicely, has great pickup |
21:28.03 | tokimi | :D |
21:28.31 | kierra | plus i learned to drive in NYC |
21:29.39 | tokimi | you mean, the permament parking lot? |
21:29.53 | kierra | ? |
21:32.05 | tokimi | mmmm |
21:32.22 | tokimi | my muter made me penut butter chocolate chip cookies :-D |
21:32.30 | tokimi | she's great |
21:36.51 | CBG | o.O |
21:37.16 | CBG | my mother makes normal chocolate chip cookies - no yucky peanut butter - YuM! :) |
21:38.31 | tokimi | .... |
21:38.45 | CBG | :P |
21:39.54 | tokimi | hmph |
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21:40.26 | kierra | ciao principe |
21:40.28 | CBG | yo Blue_Eyes |
21:41.25 | CBG | kierra: if you see GreatAlex, let him know that I'll check my bzmails tomorrow if he wants to send me anything, I have to go work now, won't be on for about 18 hours... |
21:42.37 | kierra | ok |
21:42.48 | CBG | thanks :D |
21:42.54 | kierra | messenger kierra at your service :) |
21:43.00 | CBG | heh :) |
21:43.03 | kierra | ; |
21:43.04 | kierra | \0 |
21:43.08 | kierra | ; |
21:43.08 | kierra | 0 |
21:43.11 | CBG | today I played 3 matches, think I did ok. |
21:43.16 | kierra | ; |
21:43.28 | kierra | jeez cant type |
21:43.36 | kierra | ;) |
21:43.42 | CBG | no swearing, no leaving matches earlier, nothing that people may think of as "accusing them of cheating" |
21:45.30 | tokimi | heh |
21:45.33 | kierra | yay |
21:45.42 | kierra | a banner day for cbg |
21:45.59 | CBG | better than saturday fo' shizzle |
21:46.03 | CBG | what? no cookie? |
21:46.09 | kierra | hmm |
21:46.22 | kierra | fresh oatmeal? |
21:46.27 | CBG | eww |
21:46.30 | kierra | lol |
21:47.03 | CBG | I'll take an 'Innocent Smoothie |
21:48.50 | tokimi | hey k |
21:49.04 | tokimi | do you know how long it would take for prilasec to aborb in the stomach? |
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23:21.37 | AlexandrTheGreat | meno? |
23:23.35 | kierra | meno is working somewhere |
23:23.50 | kierra | alex, did you read the forums |
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23:24.51 | SportChick | I'm wondering the same thing |
23:24.56 | kierra | orange pind |
23:25.02 | kierra | orange ping |
23:25.06 | SportChick | kierra: are you talking about the gu or the ducati forums? |
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23:27.32 | kierra | ducati |
23:27.35 | kierra | qd |
23:27.53 | kierra | qd pm |
23:28.40 | CBG | AlexandrTheGreat: get my bzmail? |
23:29.19 | AlexandrTheGreat | yes sir |
23:29.22 | AlexandrTheGreat | i answered |
23:29.26 | CBG | k :) |
23:29.29 | SportChick | AlexandrTheGreat: aim |
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23:38.36 | quantumdot | orange ping! |
23:38.46 | kierra | he isnt around |
23:38.50 | kierra | :( |
23:38.55 | quantumdot | oh |
23:38.58 | kierra | nor meno |
23:39.48 | kierra | lol |
23:40.19 | CBG | whats funny? :P |
23:40.31 | kierra | you |
23:40.35 | kierra | you're cute |
23:40.38 | CBG | bah |
23:40.41 | CBG | I'm not. |
23:40.44 | kierra | lol |
23:40.55 | CBG | ask AlexandrTheGreat ... |
23:41.06 | kierra | as a man thinks in his heart, thats the way he is |
23:41.18 | kierra | i refuse to think you a bad person, cbg |
23:41.31 | CBG | *sigh* |
23:41.39 | kierra | biggest room in the house is the room for improvement.......for all of us |
23:42.01 | CBG | now, _thats_ cute :P |
23:42.35 | kierra | :) |
23:42.39 | AlexandrTheGreat | oh, cbg is my mate |
23:42.56 | kierra | sigh |
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23:43.13 | kierra | i miss being captain of a gu team |
23:43.21 | CBG | heh |
23:43.24 | CBG | who is now? |
23:43.31 | kierra | i dismissed it |
23:44.43 | kierra | my statement to gu on official matches and how they treat newbs |
23:45.15 | CBG | eek, dismissed? :( |
23:45.23 | kierra | yep |
23:45.33 | kierra | no one wanted the captainship |
23:46.10 | CBG | I see, |
23:46.18 | CBG | Bye bye AC... |
23:46.26 | kierra | i couldnt see dumping on someone |
23:47.20 | CBG | you're too kind, you're bad. |
23:47.40 | kierra | which one is it |
23:47.46 | kierra | kind or bad |
23:49.49 | CBG | both ;) |
23:49.57 | kierra | both/and |
23:49.57 | ghjkghjk | see yah cbg love u! |
23:50.01 | CBG | you kinda went around in a circle |
23:50.06 | kierra | and not either/or |
23:50.07 | CBG | ghjkghjk? |
23:50.13 | ghjkghjk | yeah bye.. |
23:50.16 | ghjkghjk | peace.. |
23:50.18 | ghjkghjk | have fun... |
23:50.21 | ghjkghjk | enjoy the irc chat.. |
23:50.23 | kierra | ghjk? |
23:50.24 | ghjkghjk | take care.. |
23:50.28 | kierra | hi there |
23:50.30 | ghjkghjk | see yah soon.. :P |
23:50.34 | kierra | where you going? |
23:50.38 | ghjkghjk | gotta go.. |
23:50.54 | ghjkghjk | love you kierra and cbg |
23:50.56 | CBG | bye... |
23:51.08 | kierra | love you too, |
23:51.31 | CBG | who was that? o.O |
23:51.31 | kierra | iknow who it was |
23:51.32 | kierra | sigh |
23:51.32 | CBG | I don;t... |
23:51.35 | CBG | Molez? |
23:51.37 | CBG | Carnage? |
23:51.39 | kierra | no |
23:52.01 | CBG | well? :( |
23:52.08 | kierra | no need to tell |
23:52.11 | AlexandrTheGreat | bak |
23:52.18 | CBG | kierra: pffff :( |
23:52.21 | kierra | read up a little |
23:52.34 | quantumdot | hehe kierra |
23:52.38 | quantumdot | you are bad :) |
23:52.50 | kierra | i am?....why so? |
23:53.20 | CBG | I read up... I dont see who it is... |
23:53.25 | CBG | or was |
23:54.33 | CBG | welcome back AlexandrTheGreat |
23:54.37 | AlexandrTheGreat | ty |
23:54.52 | CBG | yw |
23:57.42 | kierra | quantumdot ping |