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| 00:55.12 | mattfly | QtDesigner suddenly bugged and im not able to open it on kubuntu 18.04 |
| 00:55.48 | mattfly | https://bpaste.net/show/FKPKQ |
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| 00:58.22 | Darkclaw | I am trying to run kde5 through tightvnc but there's no startkde |
| 00:58.50 | SGOrava | startplasma something ? |
| 00:59.11 | Darkclaw | startplasma-x11 ? |
| 01:00.43 | SGOrava | or startplasma-wayland it depends on you |
| 01:01.35 | jankusanagi_ | sounds like a question for #kubuntu, mattfly |
| 01:01.50 | mattfly | okay.. i already asked there |
| 01:02.08 | Darkclaw | it didnt work with x11, I'll try with wayland |
| 01:03.26 | Darkclaw | interesting. it says vncconfig not found |
| 01:04.28 | Darkclaw | I dont think im doing this right. running kde5 with tightvnc might not work |
| 01:04.54 | jankusanagi_ | Plasma |
| 01:05.00 | jankusanagi_ | there's nothing called "kde5", for the record |
| 01:05.15 | Darkclaw | true, it's a metaname |
| 01:05.35 | Darkclaw | all I want is to have whatever kde is called back up and running again with vnc |
| 01:06.32 | jankusanagi_ | KDE is called KDE, and the desktop environment made by KDE is called Plasma |
| 01:06.53 | Darkclaw | in my case, none of it is working |
| 01:07.06 | jankusanagi_ | there must be some error messages... |
| 01:07.14 | Darkclaw | I run vncserver and it starts a process. when I look at the logs, gives all sorts of error |
| 01:07.58 | Darkclaw | ** (process:93228): CRITICAL **: 01:02:17.860: polkit_agent_listener_register_with_options: assertion 'POLKIT_IS_SUBJECT (subject)' failed |
| 01:10.16 | Darkclaw | all the articles on this topic are obsolete |
| 01:10.25 | Darkclaw | dated from 2002, 2008 |
| 01:10.59 | Darkclaw | they all reference starting startkde |
| 01:11.37 | Darkclaw | so im here at the crossroads and have to make a decision to dump kde because it wont play with tightbnc |
| 01:11.38 | jankusanagi_ | well, there was no Plasma in 2002 xD |
| 01:12.09 | jankusanagi_ | you can't use other desktop sharing software? like KRDC and such? |
| 01:12.32 | Darkclaw | I can try, never had. always used tightvnc |
| 01:13.15 | jankusanagi_ | https://kde.org/applications/internet/org.kde.krfb |
| 01:13.35 | jankusanagi_ | + https://kde.org/applications/internet/org.kde.krdc |
| 01:14.08 | Darkclaw | i dont think this is the same as tightvnc |
| 01:15.39 | Darkclaw | im trying to run kde in a completely virtual way |
| 01:16.11 | jankusanagi_ | VM's like QEmu and VirtualBox exist for that |
| 01:16.18 | jankusanagi_ | (run Plasma) |
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| 01:17.15 | Darkclaw | https://gofedora.com/how-to-configure-vnc-server/ |
| 01:17.27 | Darkclaw | see that is the way it's been done practically forever |
| 01:17.51 | Darkclaw | now it's all fubered |
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| 01:31.30 | Darkclaw | im still stuck here not sure what to do |
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| 02:10.56 | Darkclaw | so basically to ask the question a different way. I want to know if it's possible to run KDE plasma with tightvnc |
| 02:11.55 | Darkclaw | I've googled it to hell and I havent been able to get a solution |
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| 02:21.36 | jankusanagi_ | https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-1038806-start-0.html apparently this person had success with "TigerVNC" |
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| 02:31.45 | Darkclaw | I wish they explained how they did it lol |
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| 02:33.27 | Darkclaw | hmm it seems that with tigervnc, it requires to run a full blow version of it on the server |
| 02:34.41 | Darkclaw | honestly I dont even mind. I'm going to install tigervnc and see where the sails take me |
| 02:36.45 | Darkclaw | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:38.51 | sarnold | what OS and package management system are you using? or are you building erverything from source? |
| 02:39.45 | Darkclaw | it's freebsd. I think I was building the wrong thing. I am now building tigervnc-server instead of all of it |
| 02:40.11 | Darkclaw | okay so that's done |
| 02:41.26 | Darkclaw | alright so it's done |
| 02:41.34 | sarnold | aha nice :) |
| 02:42.05 | Darkclaw | I have no idea what to do next |
| 02:43.04 | Darkclaw | all the articles are still saying startkde and I dont have that |
| 02:43.50 | Darkclaw | not sure if switching to tigervnc changed anything |
| 02:44.24 | jankusanagi_ | 01plasma.desktop has Exec=/usr/bin/startplasma-x11 |
| 02:44.32 | jankusanagi_ | so a regular DM would run that to start Plasma Desktop |
| 02:45.18 | Darkclaw | this is what I have in xstartup |
| 02:45.19 | Darkclaw | #!/bin/sh |
| 02:45.19 | Darkclaw | vncconfig -iconic & |
| 02:45.19 | Darkclaw | # Uncomment the following two lines for normal desktop: |
| 02:45.19 | Darkclaw | unset SESSION_MANAGER |
| 02:45.19 | Darkclaw | exec /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc |
| 02:45.21 | Darkclaw | [ -x /etc/vnc/xstartup ] && exec /etc/vnc/xstartup |
| 02:45.23 | Darkclaw | [ -r $HOME/.Xresources ] && xrdb $HOME/.Xresources |
| 02:45.25 | Darkclaw | xsetroot -solid grey |
| 02:45.27 | Darkclaw | exec ck-launch-session startplasma-11 & |
| 02:45.55 | sarnold | you overuse exec |
| 02:46.20 | sarnold | 'exec' means 'please replace the current shell and execute this next thing' |
| 02:46.27 | jankusanagi_ | startplasma-11? xD |
| 02:46.55 | sarnold | so your xstartup, xrdb, xsetroot, ck-launch-session, none of them are ever executed, because your shell no longer exists :) |
| 02:47.24 | Darkclaw | sarnold, I have no idea what to do lol |
| 02:47.45 | Darkclaw | it was easy before. startkde and boom all worked. now nothing |
| 02:48.11 | sarnold | Darkclaw: me neither; jankusanagi_'s suggestion of using startplasma-11 seems like a good idea, but I'm not sure if that's to *replace* everything you're doing there, or if it's just something to use in that file instead .. |
| 02:48.25 | Darkclaw | I fixed that to x11 but still nothing |
| 02:48.26 | jankusanagi_ | startplasma-x11 |
| 02:48.39 | sarnold | but removing all but the last 'exec' wouldn't be a bad start |
| 02:48.42 | Darkclaw | there simply isn't instructions on how to do this |
| 02:48.52 | sarnold | probably remove the xinitrc line entirely |
| 02:49.36 | jankusanagi_ | xsetroot certainly is irrelevant xD |
| 02:49.42 | Darkclaw | omg it works |
| 02:49.51 | Darkclaw | I dont believe it |
| 02:50.12 | Darkclaw | deleting the xinit line seems to have fixed it. everything is showing and working |
| 02:50.46 | Darkclaw | im going to try switching back to tightvnc and see if it works |
| 02:51.48 | Darkclaw | it's exciting guys. been struggling with this for hours |
| 02:52.15 | sarnold | woo |
| 02:53.15 | Darkclaw | nope tightvnc does not work with it |
| 02:53.18 | Darkclaw | so tigervnc it is |
| 02:55.07 | Darkclaw | thank you guys greatly. since it's up and running, I can take it from here |
| 02:55.13 | jankusanagi_ | =) |
| 02:55.20 | sarnold | nice :) have fun! |
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| 03:11.42 | valorie | gosh, guys, guys guys |
| 03:11.49 | valorie | we're not all guys |
| 03:12.07 | jankusanagi_ | indeed =) |
| 03:12.38 | valorie | I'm american and no, "guys" is not all of us |
| 03:13.05 | valorie | although lots of men seem to think otherwise |
| 03:13.16 | jankusanagi_ | adding that to the sentence makes it longer and incorrect xD |
| 03:14.20 | valorie | I'm always good with 'people' |
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| 03:14.33 | valorie | folks, humans, peeps, etc |
| 03:15.33 | jankusanagi_ | humans is discriminatory against bots |
| 03:15.42 | jankusanagi_ | people is good =) |
| 03:15.48 | valorie | ha |
| 03:15.51 | jankusanagi_ | or just, no additional word in most cases |
| 03:15.56 | valorie | well, some bots are quite good |
| 03:16.03 | valorie | bugbots for instance |
| 03:16.18 | jankusanagi_ | all the more reason no to discriminate them! |
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| 03:16.30 | callipygous | hey |
| 03:16.41 | valorie | sentient beings? |
| 03:16.41 | callipygous | I have latte dock...when I change desktops the icons move position for some reason |
| 03:18.44 | sarnold | ohey it's a valorie here too :) |
| 03:18.59 | valorie | pretty much everywhere |
| 03:19.05 | sarnold | I'lll say, hehe |
| 03:19.05 | valorie | at least sometimes@ |
| 03:19.13 | callipygous | I don't want this behavior |
| 03:19.15 | valorie | I learn new things here all the time |
| 03:20.21 | valorie | and occasionally can point someone in the right direction |
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| 03:32.30 | jankusanagi_ | callipygous: what icons move, how? |
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| 03:49.18 | callipygous | jankusanagi_, the icons rearrange themselves when I click on them |
| 03:49.26 | callipygous | like they'll move positions relative to one another |
| 03:50.28 | callipygous | very weird, very random |
| 03:50.33 | callipygous | unless there is some sense behind it |
| 03:50.39 | callipygous | but...I don't like it |
| 03:51.17 | sarnold | maybe make a few screenshots and circle the parts you don't like |
| 03:51.30 | sarnold | it can be hard to explain gui things across irc |
| 03:51.35 | callipygous | doesn't sound like you understand |
| 03:51.38 | callipygous | it's hard to describe |
| 03:51.46 | sarnold | definitely :) |
| 03:51.50 | callipygous | but I put my icons in a certain order in the dock |
| 03:51.59 | callipygous | and that changes...depending on what program I click |
| 03:52.09 | callipygous | anyway...plasma is doing my head in |
| 03:52.21 | sarnold | which is why I'm suggesting the screenshots; there's a reasonable chance I'm not the only one who doesn't understand |
| 03:52.45 | callipygous | well, I could only really make it easier if I actually showed you with a video |
| 03:52.57 | callipygous | but I'm not sure I can |
| 03:53.57 | sarnold | i've heard good things about recordmydesktop -- apt cache search also suggests peek might work |
| 03:54.07 | sarnold | I've got to go make dinner |
| 03:54.11 | sarnold | so I'm off :) good luck |
| 03:54.14 | callipygous | too much work |
| 03:54.17 | callipygous | I'll just live with it |
| 03:54.24 | callipygous | or change back to e |
| 03:54.28 | sarnold | (you're not losing much without me though, the only gui thing I run is firefox..) |
| 03:54.45 | callipygous | ok |
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| 04:02.06 | jankusanagi_ | sounds like the launchers rearrange in order of last used, or more often used? |
| 04:02.29 | jankusanagi_ | (never used Latte Dock, just a guess) |
| 04:02.41 | callipygous | it's something weird like that |
| 04:02.46 | callipygous | but I cannot pin down the logic |
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| 04:06.10 | jankusanagi_ | I'd imagine there's something in its settings for that |
| 04:06.52 | callipygous | mmm, can't find it |
| 04:07.08 | callipygous | clicked a bunch of settings, no change |
| 04:11.23 | valorie | callipygous: you can see the configuration files in ~/.config |
| 04:11.44 | valorie | probably something like lattedockrc |
| 04:12.51 | valorie | they're just text files |
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| 04:25.15 | callipygous | yes, valorie |
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| 04:28.13 | callipygous | I'm looking at it now |
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| 09:04.06 | shreenivasn1 | Hi guys, I'm new to linux and kde. I joined here for a doubt on titlebar buttons customisation. How do I have those buttons without a separate horizontal bar in an app? |
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| 09:10.33 | xyquadrat-M | shreenivasn1: Hey, welcome to linux/KDE then :) I assume that you are talking about the horizontal bar separators. In this case, you can usually right-click the titlebar (at least in Dolphin it works for sure) and select "Configure Toolbars". In the dialog that opens up you will see "-- separator --" items on the right side. If you remove those, the bars should disappear. |
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| 09:37.24 | andrewr33__ | Hi, sorry, noob question - I have a (kde5) task manager bug that I've been trying to find details on for the last 2 years with no luck. Where might be a good place to ask? |
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| 09:49.53 | FelixErnst-M | Hi andrewr33__! You can definitely ask here. If you are looking for a bug you can also search for it on https://bugs.kde.org/ . |
| 09:51.03 | andrewr33__ | Hi FelixErnst-M, many thanks, turns out I found the issues in bugs.kde.org, will report/see if I can help out |
| 09:51.20 | FelixErnst-M | great! |
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| 12:17.36 | Belial | is there an issue in 5.17 where the touchpad doesn't disable until you go to the touchpad settings in system settings? so far i've had to do it every time i log or boot into the desktop. |
| 12:17.43 | Belial | if i don't the touchpad runs the entire time. |
| 12:18.22 | Belial | distribution is opensuse tumbleweed |
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| 13:52.40 | qwedfg_ | can I change windows list in plasma shell to the graphical squares like in windows 10 |
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| 13:52.47 | qwedfg_ | please tell me I can! :) |
| 13:57.03 | xyquadrat-M | qwedfg_: Do you mean the thing that shows up when you switch between windows? Then yes, you certainly can |
| 13:58.25 | xyquadrat-M | Make sure you have kwin-addons installed, and go to System Settings -> Window control (or similiar, I don't know how it is translated) -> Application switcher -> choose the animation you like the most in the dropdown |
| 13:58.40 | xyquadrat-M | you can also download new ones or create your own |
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| 14:03.48 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
| 14:07.08 | SGOrava | BluesKaj: Welcome |
| 14:08.47 | qwedfg_ | xyquadrat-M: not this one, the ones on the bottom of default kde |
| 14:09.19 | xyquadrat-M | Ah, the panel |
| 14:09.24 | qwedfg_ | but ill figure it out |
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| 14:11.33 | qwedfg_ | oh it was easy |
| 14:15.20 | qwedfg_ | I just changed into icon-task-manager |
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| 15:14.22 | jankusanagi_ | for the record, "Default Plasma" |
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| 15:43.43 | Delvien | Kmail - Is there working functionality for Exchange web services? I cant seem to find any info on it |
| 15:44.24 | thiago | there's a functionality, but it didn't work well enough for me |
| 15:44.31 | thiago | so I still access my work email via IMAP |
| 15:44.43 | Delvien | my work doesnt support imap sadly |
| 15:45.31 | Delvien | thiago: do you have any howto posts on this, been playing with adding my work account for a while, but cant seem to get it to connect, timeouts |
| 15:46.11 | thiago | I added the akonadi agent for EWS, then tried to use |
| 15:46.16 | thiago | I got some emails shown |
| 15:47.49 | Delvien | it appears akonadi-ews was merged with PIM |
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| 15:52.51 | rlf1 | which distribution do yo suggest for desktop usage |
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| 15:53.14 | jankusanagi_ | Mageia |
| 15:53.18 | rlf1 | kde neon, opensuse leap 15, opensuse argon, kubuntu lts |
| 15:53.22 | Delvien | Manjaro imo |
| 15:53.25 | Delvien | or kubuntu |
| 15:53.54 | rlf1 | have you tried kde neon |
| 15:54.09 | SGOrava | rlf1: That depends on what you want, I would go for some *buntu lts if it is not my machine and for Artix on my machine |
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| 19:11.10 | kinghat | if i use regex to differentiate between two chrome popup windows using regex and set remember for size/position, they remember where the other one was last and not where it was last only. |
| 19:11.27 | kinghat | anyone else get that? |
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| 20:38.15 | fuze | i installed kipi-plugins but it does nothing |
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| 21:45.24 | jaggz | anyone use kde connect's send sms? |
| 21:45.30 | jaggz | Trying to find how to do it.. where the option is |
| 21:46.06 | JanKusanagi | I guess it's not in the KDEconnect plasmoid menu, in the system tray? |
| 21:46.42 | jaggz | that shows me only "ring my phone | browse this device" |
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| 21:47.14 | jaggz | maybe I need to repair after giving the access on the phone |
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| 21:48.23 | jaggz | no.. hrm |
| 21:51.24 | jaggz | maybe it's not in debian official (buster) Installed: 1.3.3-2 |
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| 21:54.09 | jaggz | E: Unable to locate package indicator-kdeconnect |
| 21:54.49 | jaggz | even after installing the ppa |
| 21:57.47 | jaggz | sms support .. " If you are interested in trying or developing it, you can build it from source." |
| 21:58.36 | jaggz | https://community.kde.org/KDEConnect#Installation |
| 22:01.45 | JanKusanagi | guess it's pretty new |
| 22:03.58 | asturm | JanKusanagi: I think it was phoronix'd as soon as it was committed |
| 22:04.08 | JanKusanagi | heh |
| 22:04.20 | jaggz | can't even get it to build.. |
| 22:04.22 | jaggz | bleh.. nevermind |
| 22:05.00 | asturm | it is probably enabled with EXPERIMENTALAPP_ENABLED |
| 22:05.23 | asturm | not sure at all though |
| 22:05.44 | jaggz | after my cmake line it's not even producing a makefile so.. |
| 22:05.55 | jaggz | no mental energy to figure it out right now :) |
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| 22:07.44 | jaggz | cmake gives some errors |
| 22:07.45 | jaggz | http://paste.debian.net/1113253/ |
| 22:07.55 | jaggz | don't bother yourselves with it though.. need nap :} |
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| 22:09.22 | jaggz | thanks a bunch buds |
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