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05:34.07PragmaticAnarchihello, i notice on my kde desktop that fonts and icons suffer from aliasing and i failed to find any relevant information on how to fix it.
05:34.32PragmaticAnarchiany help or directions on how to trobleshoot this issue will be apreciated
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08:17.30brli_PragmaticAnarchi: first make sure you have install proper otf or ttf fonts
08:18.25GLaDOS_hi
08:19.31GLaDOS_has the kde project an app to manage qemu?
08:22.44yann-kaelighello
08:23.13yann-kaelig<PROTECTED>
08:23.24asturmyes? no?
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08:30.07yann-kaeligGLaDOS_: I have not seen anything like that. The only on qemu/kvm virtual manager I found is https://f1ash.github.io/qt-virt-manager/ . But since I have discovered virtualbox, everything else became useless
08:35.59GLaDOS_thanks
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08:50.18oddcodercan I talk to someone of kdeconnect devs ?
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09:22.08lacrimosahi guys, I just installed manjaro (KDE) and I am using linux for the first time
09:22.16lacrimosaI have installed it on my (system)SSD, but I can't see my 4TB data hdd
09:22.22lacrimosado I have to mount it first so I can see it or should it be visible in any kind?
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09:34.21lacrimosa?
09:36.59brlilacrimosa: ask ono #manjaro channel instead
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11:33.35intcatplaying around with kwin scripts has borked my kde
11:33.44intcatto the point i can't even alt-f2 anymore
11:33.54intcati can move my cursor but everything else is unresponsive
11:34.04intcatcan i restart KDE from a tty?
11:34.20gagbokill and restart plasmashell
11:34.36intcatcan't, not from a tty
11:35.10gagboreally ? I thought the process would be listed in ps or top
11:35.20intcatwell I killed it
11:35.25intcatbut I can't restart it
11:35.35intcatkstart5 plasmashell gives me "qt.qpa.screen: QXcbConnection: Could not connect to display. Could not connect to any X display."
11:36.02gagboyou can't do anything in the other tty ?
11:36.18gagboyou need to startx in the other tty if you want to start it all again inplace
11:36.28gagboor even startkde
11:36.51intcatbut I want to stop the existing one
11:37.12intcathow would starting a new X help with that?
11:38.32intcatoh well, a sddm restart helped
11:38.51gagbokstart.... will only work in a tty if there's a X server already there, that's why you got the error
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11:40.39intcatyes, so what is the usual way to kill an unresponsive KDE?
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11:48.02GLaDOS_intcat: idk how to do that, but when I become unresponsive to my gf she shows me a hammer... then I become pretty much responsive again.
11:48.44GLaDOS_just kidding, what I do is the same, restart sddm service
11:50.22intcatI am not sure what just happened, but now things aren't working as they should even after a reboot.
11:51.50intcatKonsole transparency is gone, I can't use the "Present windows" or "Virtual desktop grid" anymore.
11:52.20intcat"This color scheme uses a transparent background which does not appear to be supported on your desktop"
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11:56.28GLaDOS_sometime ago I lost a feature from ksysguard (the netwok metter and load metter) , the solution I found googling works, but was very strange because I had to copy a file from /usr to my home and both  of them had the same content
11:57.05GLaDOS_Idk why, but it worked
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12:19.18scoopexafter resuming my system from suspend2ram state, my screen looks like this https://pasteboard.co/HGhkqdn.png (ubuntu 18.04, updates PPA for KDE, updates PPA for my nvidia GK208 [GeForce GT 710B])
12:19.23scoopexany hints?
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13:43.15gagboHello, I made my menubar disappear a long time ago, and I want it back under the title bar, do you know where the option which controls that is ?
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13:44.32BluesKajhowdy folks
13:44.53rdietergagbo: in general, cntl-m shortcut toggles menu on/off
13:45.14gagboI tried that but it doesn't work :(
13:45.22gagboI'm testing this in qt-creator currently
13:45.39gagbo(with Breeze window decorations if that matters)
13:46.15rdieterok, I think cntl-m only works for kf5 apps
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14:19.26jankusanagi_but do you have menu bars on other programs?
14:20.02jankusanagi_if not, you'd need to disable the Application menus daemon
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14:44.27oddcoderno one here from kdeconnect ?
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14:48.26oddcoderI think there might be a vulnerability in kdeconnect that is being exploited
14:48.52achillionoddcoder: try the mailing list. They're very active
14:49.10achillionhttps://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kdeconnect
14:49.22oddcoderok thanks
14:49.22achillionor the bug tracker
14:49.31oddcoderok thanks
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14:50.19achillionIf it's something as important as a security vuln, I think it's best you go through something like that than betting someone will be in the channel and paying attention at the same time you're around.
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15:06.33gagbojankusanagi_, I have menubars nowhere
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15:07.26gagbowhere can I find this daemon ? It's probably linked to the Global Menu plasmoid I suppose (I deactivated it first thing when I wanted to get the menu bars back, to no avail)
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15:10.31jankusanagi_it's in the "Background Services" section of Plasma's System Settings
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15:16.19gagboI found it, and it works, thanks a lot (like, a lot lot)
15:16.35jankusanagi_=)
15:16.37jankusanagi_yw
15:16.54gagboI don't know if there's a wiki or documentation somewhere we could update, it's definitely not straightforward !
15:17.25jankusanagi_with Plasma 5.11 or 5.12, that daemon started to be enabled automagically when you added a global menu plasmoid
15:17.29jankusanagi_which is great
15:17.37jankusanagi_now it could use the reverse xD
15:17.52jankusanagi_the ability to know "ok, this daemon no longer has any programs feeding from it, stop it" :D
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15:18.36gagboyeah :)
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16:28.05maxrazerI'm using Suse Leap 15. I find it very confusing that the Configure Desktop is used in multiple places to do different things.
16:28.55maxrazerIf I right click on the Desktop that Configure Desktop is the Desktop Folder Settings, which is not the same as Configure Desktop from the KDE menu.
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16:29.27asturmmaxrazer: do you use opensuse?
16:29.31asturmyes.
16:29.41maxrazerYes, I use OpenSuse.
16:29.50asturmmaxrazer: when did you last update? this mis-renaming was fixed after I mentioned it. it is a distro thing.
16:29.59asturmmaybe it is not yet fixed in leap...
16:30.05maxrazerI just installed OpenSuse Leap 15 Yesterday.
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16:30.28asturmwell, distro bug, anyway
16:30.42maxrazerOk, I mentioned it in the Suse Group.
16:31.20maxrazerasturm, Which distro do you use?
16:31.35asturmGentoo (and opensuse tw on one laptop)
16:32.06maxrazerI was using Debian Unstable with DWM window manager, but decided to try OpenSuse Leap.
16:32.21asturmwe use Leap in the office, it is reliable.
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16:34.54maxrazerI wanted to try OpenSuse partially to try the open build service and I was told it is easier on OpenSuse.
16:35.45maxrazerI like KDE better in OpenSuse than other distros because at least it doesn't have that stupid user icon in the launch menu at the top that won't change the avatar even if I tell it to change. That things seems pointless too. That alone made me not like KDE.
16:36.31maxrazerBut, I mostly decided to skip desktop environments because they all seemed like they had basic bugs and issues that were never fixed and always being developed. So, it seemed like too big of a project so I decided to go with DWM.
16:37.05maxrazerI'd rather have a smaller scope that can be achieved than something too big which can't.
16:37.16asturmmaxrazer: hmm that's just because opensuse uses a different launcher by default, everyone can have that.
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16:57.35maxrazerIt looks like KDE is strugling with switching to the tty virtual terminals and coming about to tty7 where KDE is running. It hangs and has a red skull and bones for the cursor. Several attempts are necessary to get KDE to restart and come back.
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16:58.17asturmmaxrazer: red skull comes when you press ctrl+alt+esc, nothing to do with KDE Plasma
16:58.36asturm(switching works for me every time btw)
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17:06.52nomore201hello! when I move cursor over a window titlebar, cursor theme switches to Adwaita. Any ideas?
17:07.03nomore201latest KDE on Archlinux
17:08.28maxrazerI'm using OpenSuse Leap 15 and suddenly my KDE taskbar disapeared and the desktop is gone. I can't right click on the Desktop either. What happened?
17:09.31asturmsounds like plasma crashed
17:09.50asturmmaxrazer: alt+space and type `plasmashell`
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17:10.36maxrazerasturm, It came back! What happened?
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17:10.49asturmyou've just restarted plasmashell
17:11.05asturma crash is certainly not normla
17:11.10maxrazerasturm, so I guess it crashed.
17:11.20maxrazerIt just suddenly crashed while I was using it.
17:11.45asturmanything relevant in dmesg?
17:11.55maxrazerI also switched virtual teletype termianals with cltr+alt+f1,2,3 etc. And went back to tty7 and kde seems to strugle with that.
17:12.15asturmPlasma does not mind tty switches, I've only heard of trouble related to gpu drivers
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17:12.42maxrazerI'm looking at dmesg. But, I don't know what to look for.
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19:21.49adymitrukanyone else having issues with telegram after upgrading kde neon to 18.04?
19:21.54adymitrukor wine issues?
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20:22.11intcatis there a way to make "click to focus" also trigger on interacting with a window (moving or resizing using alt+drag)?
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20:28.40intcatah, found the settings for that :)
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20:37.46KodiakIT[m]Any idea why konsole seems to be kerning or otherwise changing spacing even when configured with a monospace font?
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20:42.17qopHow do I set kwin to remember the size of every window?
20:42.33qopby default
20:43.09qoptried to set global rule but it applies the remembered size of window A to *
20:43.30nicofeeI think you can't. It's up to the application to remember the size
20:43.49qopnah, it is kwin
20:44.10jankusanagi_no, the responsibility lies in the application; kwin giving you extra options is a bonus
20:44.31qopyou can right-click any kwin and under ' more actions', 'special window settings'
20:44.38jankusanagi_yes, and that's a bonus
20:44.50qopsize & position > Remember
20:45.01qopThat's what I'm talking about
20:45.18qopI want every window to have 'remember size' on by default
20:46.04jankusanagi_I don't think that's possible, and it would be incredibly messy
20:46.17qopjankusanagi_: your opinion
20:46.25qopif you dunno, thank you, move away
20:46.36jankusanagi_it would be messy, it's a fact, but whatever
20:46.41qopbye
20:46.44jankusanagi_o/
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20:50.41KodiakIT[m]Ok. So slightly better phrased question, how would I go about keeping console from using ligatures instead of keeping it as proper monospace? (Without getting rid of them for the entire system)
20:51.06KodiakIT[m]Konsole*, damned autocorrect.
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21:00.02jankusanagi_I remember seeing people here with that issue
21:00.15jankusanagi_what I don't remember is the solution; maybe they just switched fonts and called it a day
21:00.33jankusanagi_you mean that if you type -> it shows an arrow character, right?
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21:02.21KodiakIT[m]I haven't tested *that one* but "fi" and "fl" both show up as one single space ligature instead of two monospace characters.
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21:04.09jankusanagi_- and > turning into → is what they often mention
21:04.37jankusanagi_I haven't seen this myself, I guess I don't use such modern fonts =)
21:05.06jankusanagi_anyway, you can change the font in Konsole without affecting the rest of the system
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21:06.18KodiakIT[m]Jankusanagi_ I meant without actually going in and deleting the ligatures from the .ttf, I'm using a specific set of fonts to maintain a consistent look across applications
21:07.38KodiakIT[m](also, can you mention me when you're replying? I have all my matrix chats set to only notify on a mention given I'm also in ##linux, #archlinux, etc)
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