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| 02:44.01 | AciD` | hey guys, I was using korganizer A LOT until 2013, when akonadi and some annoying bugs 'broke' my old calendars. Now, I'm trying to use korganizer again after a 5.5 years stop, and I can see it still has the same problems. Would you have a fix/workaround for those ?: 1) Task/event tags are duplicated (or even copied 5 times), 2) all my old event/task are showing the correct color, however when |
| 02:44.23 | AciD` | I make a small change (like the description) then apply, the tags are 'removed' |
| 02:44.56 | AciD` | If I open an event and try to edit the tags, none are selected by default (while the agenda view showed me that event with the correct color) |
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| 02:45.55 | AciD` | If I were to remove the duplicated tags from the tag manager, what would happen to all the event/tasks which have that tags? Will korganizer asks me to replace the deleted tags with another one? |
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| 02:46.44 | AciD` | is it possible to asks the devs directly, since it seems the problem is pretty technical (and the bug I opened 6 years ago haven't been touched)? |
| 02:49.44 | AciD` | perhaps the correct translation is 'categories' instead of 'tags' |
| 02:52.38 | jankusanagi_ | I think there's a #kontact channel you could use for that |
| 02:52.54 | jankusanagi_ | though I imagine this is not the best time-frame to go ask |
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| 03:01.11 | AciD` | jankusanagi_ : why is that? |
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| 03:27.57 | jankusanagi_ | it's late |
| 03:28.15 | jankusanagi_ | unreasonable late in Europe, specifically :D |
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| 08:26.14 | yann-kaelig | hi. Ok so I get at dolphin startup a window message about a same shortcut use two times. "It's probably a bug" Ok, why not it's probable a bug, but let me verify if it's not right ? So, .... where is the next step ? show me the shortcuts used two times, or open the shortcut window and highlight them . No, nothing like that, no interaction with the user .... So this window is for what ? |
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| 09:38.40 | Mikaela | Hi, can I somehow stop KDE from underlining every word? Today it's preventing me from autocompleting nicks in Gajim with the tab button unless I first press space and then also backspace. I am on Debian Testing. |
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| 09:46.02 | tosky | Mikaela: uhm, Gajim is a GTK+ application, not Qt; I don't think that Plasma does anything about uunderlying words inside that application |
| 09:46.41 | Mikaela | So it cannot be Sonnet? |
| 09:47.19 | Mikaela | which I would have attempted to remove, but it wants to remove KDE and X and everything, so I have been suffering whatever it is starting randomly time to time and I think it's some KDE Spellchecking shortcut, but I have no idea what. |
| 09:47.21 | tosky | if the application is not linked against Sonnet, no - and only Qt applications can |
| 09:48.00 | tosky | Sonnet is a basic depencency of many other applications, including various components of the Plasma desktop |
| 09:48.33 | Mikaela | Weird, do you have any idea what could cause this issue or where I should ask? #debian-next at OFTC? |
| 09:48.35 | tosky | but again, Gajim seems to be still GTK+-based |
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| 09:48.44 | tosky | Gajim developers |
| 09:49.06 | Mikaela | The problem is not Gajim-specific, it happens in every not-terminal-app in KDE |
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| 09:49.49 | tosky | I can most likely exclude that the problem of Gajim is related to Qt or Frameworks |
| 09:50.08 | tosky | about the other applications, it does not matter if they run inside Plasma or not |
| 09:50.21 | tosky | if they use sonnet, it only depend on the their settings |
| 09:50.26 | tosky | which are those applications? |
| 09:50.51 | Mikaela | I think at least Telegram and Firefox, maybe Kate |
| 09:51.31 | tosky | Firefox again is not Qt based |
| 09:51.55 | tosky | Telegram iirc is based on a forked version of Qt (it depends on how it is installed) and most likely does not use Sonnet |
| 09:52.37 | tosky | Kate is the only one which uses Sonnet for sure in that list, but you can disable the spell checking |
| 09:53.10 | Mikaela | The issue seems to be only in Gajim at the moment when I try to type random text. Telegram, I am not sure which Telegram am I running, but it's either downloaded from telegram.org or flatpak (somehow I have ended up having three different Telegrams from three places) |
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| 09:54.12 | tosky | then I'd nag Gajim developers; if you want to double check, you can try to run Gajim in a desktop different than Plasma (if you have another one, you can select it from the login manager) |
| 09:54.26 | tosky | and then ask to Gajim developers |
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| 09:55.27 | Mikaela | Now the issue also disappeared from Gajim after I restarted it. Thanks for the help, I am happy to know that it's not KDE and I will ask either Gajim or Debian when it happens again :) |
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| 09:56.29 | tosky | just a small terminology note (I need to do that :): KDE is the name of the community, while Plasma is the desktop |
| 09:57.18 | Mikaela | Oh, I will keep that in mind, thanks. I do same terminology commenting when people interchange relay and bridge |
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| 13:45.34 | evng | Anyone else has problems with touchpad and kde with laptops? When i close the lid and then reopen it my touchpad stops working :( |
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| 14:49.39 | evng | I have a problem with KDE 5.13.5 ... when i close the lid of my laptop and then open it again i see a "Touchpad disabled" icon in the center of the screen that disappears shortly and leaves my touchpad unusable |
| 14:50.03 | evng | how can i tell KDE to not mess with the touchpad when i close the lid ? |
| 14:50.06 | ngraham | Please file a bug |
| 14:50.17 | ngraham | are you using Wayland or X11? |
| 14:50.33 | evng | I'm not sure... how can I check it ? |
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| 14:51.09 | ngraham | if you don't know, you're using X11 :) |
| 14:51.13 | jankusanagi_ | I'd say if you don't.... |
| 14:51.16 | ngraham | what distro? |
| 14:51.22 | evng | yeah pretty sure it's Xorg |
| 14:51.26 | jankusanagi_ | damn, ngraham literally stole my line word by word xDDD |
| 14:51.35 | evng | manjaro |
| 14:52.02 | inkbottle | Okular, (app. 17.12), very often crash when doing some mouse selection together with "annotations" (as a consequence each of my annotation actions are followed by a [C-s]) |
| 14:52.13 | AndrewCrouthamel | Manjaro guy here - You're using X11 unless you purposely installed plasma-wayland-integration |
| 14:52.17 | jankusanagi_ | when you log in, you can choose a session type (in other words, the desktop environment you want to use), and you probably have "Plasma" there |
| 14:52.32 | AndrewCrouthamel | and selected it in SDDM |
| 14:52.33 | jankusanagi_ | the Plasma-on-Wayland session is usually clearly specified with "Wayland" |
| 14:53.39 | tosky | inkbottle: get okular from sid and try again; it should not drag too many dependencies from sid |
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| 14:55.20 | inkbottle | tosky: It's already the sid version which I have |
| 14:55.52 | tosky | inkbottle: sorry; experimental |
| 14:56.01 | inkbottle | I was just asking myself if the bug has already been reported and if it's already been fixed in 18.08 |
| 14:56.13 | inkbottle | OK |
| 14:57.30 | inkbottle | I really thought experimental was not meant to be used ;) |
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| 14:59.21 | jankusanagi_ | why would it exist if it's not meant to be used? xD |
| 15:01.07 | inkbottle | jankusanagi_: well, read the last posts on debian-kde-list; it seems it is there for developers to experiment; not actually to be used |
| 15:01.23 | darpix | hence "experimental" |
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| 15:01.48 | jankusanagi_ | I'd say it exists for anyone willing to... well, experiment xD |
| 15:02.05 | inkbottle | "As I said before - the experimental version is not for use." [https://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2018/09/msg00054.html] |
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| 15:02.18 | jankusanagi_ | anyway, way offtopic =) |
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| 15:04.42 | inkbottle | I'll wait for 18.08, which is where many fixes have been made; and if the issue remains, I'll then file a bug. |
| 15:06.20 | darpix | 18.08? |
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| 15:07.28 | jankusanagi_ | KDE Applications 18.08.x, which includes Okular |
| 15:11.29 | evng | I'm not sure if my problem is actually related to KDE or not... the fact the touchpad gets disabled when i close/open the lid might be something else not KDE.... right ? |
| 15:12.09 | tosky | inkbottle: that email about experimental is *only* for KDEPIM |
| 15:12.13 | tosky | inkbottle: it does not apply to Okular |
| 15:12.32 | tosky | KDEPIM is a large, defined subgroup shipped with KDE Applications |
| 15:12.52 | tosky | Okular is shipped as well with KDE Applications, but it is otherwise unrelated to KDEPIM |
| 15:13.21 | jankusanagi_ | evng: it might not be related to Plasma, indeed |
| 15:13.24 | tosky | so do not use KDEPIM from experimental *right now*, KDEPIM from 18.08 it's going to land soon; Okular is a different story |
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| 15:13.41 | jankusanagi_ | might be an OS issue related tu suspend/hibernation/etc |
| 15:16.01 | inkbottle | tosky: OK, roger that ;) (I thought it was a general statement) |
| 15:16.27 | evng | jankusanagi_: the thing is i disabled suspension when lid is closed... also when i manually suspend the system without closing the lid it works |
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| 15:35.36 | inkbottle | I've read https://www.kde.org/announcements/fulllog_applications.php?version=18.08.0#okular (and s/08/04/); there is a whole lot of improvements, including "Did not meant to commit that", which must be huge. I give a try to 18.04 ASAP; I'll give feedback ;) |
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| 16:00.31 | evng | Okay i have an update on my touchpad problem... I went to Kde settings -> Touchpad -> Enable/disable -> Shortcuts and then cleared out the global shortcut "Touchpad off" .... now when i close/open the lid the touchpad keeps working without problems |
| 16:01.01 | evng | so it looks like when i close the lid the "Touchpad off" global shortcut is triggered somehow |
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| 16:02.22 | evng | and so putting a blank value for it.. disabling the global shortcut... fixes the problem for me |
| 16:02.32 | evng | but still i wonder why it triggers it when i close the lid |
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| 16:31.46 | inkbottle | Presently doing okular 18.04 upgrade (experimental) |
| 16:32.14 | inkbottle | rebooting |
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| 16:36.21 | daniel2 | 18.04? Aren't we on 18.08 now? |
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| 16:38.20 | inkbottle | we are, we are, well it depends if you can put your hand on it or not |
| 16:39.06 | inkbottle | Okular 18.04: so far no green spots and no funny ears ;) |
| 16:39.24 | inkbottle | I'll be away |
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| 17:22.13 | madLyfe | is it possible to make visual studio code workspace files open in VSC rather than kate but not have all text files open in VSC? |
| 17:22.49 | madLyfe | so `.code-workspace` files open in VSC? |
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| 17:53.03 | JanKusanagi | yuck, VSC |
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| 18:18.26 | ngraham | madLyfe: Yes, go to System Settings > Applications and define a custom mapping to have .code-workspace open in VSC |
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| 18:26.11 | madLyfe | thanks ngraham! |
| 18:26.26 | ngraham | no problemo |
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| 18:30.29 | madLyfe | ngraham: is this something that VSC should be doing automatically? |
| 18:30.58 | ngraham | could be. If so, it swould be their bug |
| 18:31.04 | Scunizi | Printing dialogue from Okular to PDF does not respect the "Letter" settings in Cups-pdf or Print to File defaults. It defaults to A4. How do I change the default? |
| 18:31.34 | tosky | Scunizi: which version of Qt you use? |
| 18:31.54 | ngraham | Scunizi: you can't, it's a bug: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252596 |
| 18:32.09 | Scunizi | ngraham: thanks |
| 18:32.30 | Scunizi | tosky: kubuntu 18.02.. |
| 18:32.55 | Scunizi | tosky: I realize that's not the version of Qt. but I'm running a default system with all the updates |
| 18:33.08 | tosky | Scunizi: it may still be the version of Qt |
| 18:33.21 | ngraham | Kubuntu 18.04 has Qt 5.9.5 |
| 18:33.30 | tosky | that bug was checked last year for the last time, and many printing fixes landed in Qt 5.11 |
| 18:33.48 | Scunizi | tosky: could be.. how do I verify my version? |
| 18:34.05 | ngraham | tosky: I can check it again with Qt 5.11 |
| 18:34.20 | tosky | Scunizi: ngraham just checked, but you can see it from the About dialog, Libraries tab |
| 18:34.27 | tosky | Scunizi: or from the package manager |
| 18:34.28 | Scunizi | tosky: it appears if I use "document viewer" a gtk viewer, The dialogue respects the "Letter" settings. |
| 18:34.41 | tosky | Scunizi: yes, yes, sure, but does not use Qt |
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| 18:35.59 | madLyfe | is this not correct? https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/myLygct0/image.png |
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| 18:36.39 | SourceSlayer | Hello |
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| 18:36.44 | Scunizi | tosky: when in Synaptic I search for quicktime? qt or ?? |
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| 18:37.10 | tosky | Scunizi: qt is qt, it's not quicktime |
| 18:38.08 | jacky | Scunizi: you'll want vlc |
| 18:38.32 | jacky | https://videolan.org |
| 18:38.43 | tosky | jacky: no, that's not related |
| 18:38.52 | tosky | the discussion was about finding the version of Qt |
| 18:38.52 | jacky | ohh lol |
| 18:38.57 | jacky | I just came in and saw "quicktime" |
| 18:38.59 | jacky | my bad |
| 18:39.02 | jacky | slinks into shadows |
| 18:39.09 | SourceSlayer | "qmake -v"? |
| 18:39.22 | tosky | that assumes that you have development libraries |
| 18:39.44 | ngraham | to find your version of Qt, just open the Info Center program on your machine |
| 18:39.52 | Scunizi | tosky: looks like there's a number of qt5-something typically versions 5.9.5 |
| 18:39.57 | ngraham | but anyway, Kubuntu 18.04 ships with Qt 5.9.5 |
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| 18:43.15 | madLyfe | also, application preference order doesnt stick after you hit apply. any that are added just disappear. |
| 18:44.03 | SourceSlayer | Can anyone recommend me a good XMPP client? |
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| 18:46.16 | SourceSlayer | Also, anyone know of a decent VoIP/Video-chat application that supports self-hosting? |
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| 18:51.42 | aphnx | #kde-bugs |
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| 19:10.20 | ngraham | tosky: Verified that https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=252596 is still a problem with Qt 5.11.x, even with all of its printing fixes. |
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| 19:16.04 | tosky | d'oh |
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| 19:20.58 | tosky | ngraham: so both print to file and cups-pdf? |
| 19:21.43 | ngraham | reproduced with Okular's "Print to PDF" feature, whatever technical backend that uses |
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| 19:23.54 | madLyfe | i think there is a bug in the file associations settings for not remembering default applications. |
| 19:24.17 | madLyfe | unless im doing it wrong. |
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| 20:45.58 | madLyfe | anyone have that issue or is it just the plasma version im running. |
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| 20:46.26 | madLyfe | 5.12.6 on kubuntu with backports. |
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| 20:52.43 | JanKusanagi | I have no issues with what I think you mean |
| 20:53.15 | JanKusanagi | with Plasma 5.13.4 and Frameworks 5.49 |
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| 20:53.30 | JanKusanagi | (Mageia 7 repos) |
| 20:57.54 | madLyfe | ya its probably my version |
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| 21:15.47 | JanKusanagi | I didn't have such issues when Mageia had Plasma 5.12 either |
| 21:16.04 | JanKusanagi | but changing the order or preferred applications is not something I do every day, of course xD |
| 21:17.26 | madLyfe | well im just trying to add a new file association and then add default applications to it. those dont stick and every time i open that type of file it asks me for a default application. |
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| 21:25.15 | madLyfe | JanKusanagi/ngraham: https://www.dropbox.com/s/eaaky3ch35xoytr/Screenshot%202018-09-26%2016-21-48.mp4?dl=0 |
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| 21:41.58 | ngraham | this may sound stupid, but have you tried rebooting? |
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| 22:20.02 | digital-_-mystik | hello.. I currently have a mouse that can cycle through open applications with a side button in my windows VM.. is there a way to enable this for the KDE environment or is that functionality proprietary to Windows/Logitech in this case? |
| 22:22.55 | muesli | you can just add it as a secondary global shortcut for window switching |
| 22:23.30 | muesli | most logitech mice i've seen actually emulate a key event for those side buttons |
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| 22:26.05 | digital-_-mystik | muesli: thanks, I'll try that out.. the other side buttons work for going back and forward on pages just that one built into the frame doesn't do anything yet |
| 22:26.30 | muesli | digital-_-mystik: it probably emits ctrl-alt-tab |
| 22:26.47 | muesli | (at least that's what my logitech mice do) |
| 22:28.22 | digital-_-mystik | muesli: how do I go about adding that shortcut? I'm in global keyboard shortcuts |
| 22:29.00 | muesli | digital-_-mystik: kwin component, "toggle present windows", global alternate shotcut |
| 22:30.08 | digital-_-mystik | muesli: thank you so much!! I appreciate you helping a noob out |
| 22:30.22 | muesli | then click the button saying "None" and click your mouse button |
| 22:30.32 | muesli | that should do the trick |
| 22:30.48 | digital-_-mystik | it was outputting ctrl-alt-tab |
| 22:30.54 | muesli | thought so :) |
| 22:31.05 | digital-_-mystik | have a good one |
| 22:31.10 | muesli | you too |
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| 23:28.45 | moosnat | Does KDE's desktop portals implementation support the FileChooser protocol? |
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