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| 02:14.49 | utack | Hi. Is the plasma5.9 global menu currently not working in gimp or firefox, or is my config wrong? |
| 02:15.50 | tx | global menu eh? I need to check out 5.9 |
| 02:17.18 | utack | well it is very much not global for me yet in many programs |
| 02:17.49 | tx | perhaps it's gtk(2) stuff? |
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| 02:41.42 | Chris_R1986 | hello. |
| 02:42.06 | Chris_R1986 | I could use some help with a problem I am having with chromium/chrome in kde |
| 02:42.08 | Chris_R1986 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:42.09 | Chris_R1986 | ...what it is, and i cant seem to find it on google, although I may be phrasing it wrong, too. Please help if you can... |
| 02:43.37 | Jucato | Chris_R1986: do you mean they're grouped as one in the taskbar or do you mean they're appearing as tabs in chrome? |
| 02:49.08 | utack | can i set the screen to get both locked and turned off when closing the lid? that would be the obvious choice? |
| 02:50.09 | utack | right now i can either lock it, and make it illuminate the keyboard while closed, or turn it off and not lock... |
| 02:51.08 | Chris_R1986 | Jucato: they are grouped as one in the taskbar |
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| 02:51.16 | Chris_R1986 | appearing as chrome tabs |
| 02:51.32 | Chris_R1986 | in the taskbar^^ |
| 02:51.57 | Chris_R1986 | thanks for answering back |
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| 02:53.33 | Jucato | Chris_R1986: not sure i'm understanding since there are no "chrome tabs" in taskbar. you do have settings for grouping taskbar entries under the same label when the taskbar is full. right-click on the task bar and see Task Manager Settings. |
| 02:54.17 | Chris_R1986 | i know it is something with the x11 window class |
| 02:54.31 | Chris_R1986 | sorry i didnt mean tabs |
| 02:55.09 | Jucato | hm not sure then. i just started using chrome on linux a week or so ago. apps appear as separate entries in the task manager (and i have grouping by program name enabled) |
| 02:55.30 | Jucato | i don't have special window rules for anything other than the system tray it seems |
| 02:55.32 | Chris_R1986 | the word is escaping me, but entries on the taskbar... in ubuntu unity for example, you can have gmail, saym open as its own window, treated like an application, but in kde, on the taskbar, it looks like its chrome |
| 02:55.49 | Chris_R1986 | ok |
| 02:56.04 | Chris_R1986 | its alright, i do appreciate the prompt response |
| 02:56.47 | Jucato | sorry can't be of much help |
| 02:57.10 | Jucato | not sure if it's because i use chrome from google's repo. i'm on fedora btw, if that's also relevant |
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| 03:22.50 | Chris_R1986 | Jucato: i hsve learned that if i use google chrome, i wont have this problem |
| 03:23.13 | Jucato | hm ... curious |
| 03:23.18 | Chris_R1986 | it is with the other chromium based browsers that this problem comes in, but as of recently, how recently i am not sure, chrome has fixed it |
| 03:23.22 | Chris_R1986 | so i installed chrome |
| 03:23.45 | Jucato | i wonder what's the (technical) difference ... |
| 03:24.08 | Chris_R1986 | it has to do with the way that chrome handles x windows or soething |
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| 03:24.51 | Chris_R1986 | it is a shame, becase i am really starting to love using opera |
| 03:24.52 | Jucato | sorry i can't be of much help there |
| 03:24.58 | Chris_R1986 | its ok i am all helped |
| 03:25.01 | Chris_R1986 | lol |
| 03:25.12 | Chris_R1986 | but i appreciate the response and the attempt at help |
| 03:25.22 | Jucato | maybe opera will have it fixed some time as well |
| 03:25.30 | Chris_R1986 | that would be cool |
| 03:25.36 | Chris_R1986 | what browser to you like? |
| 03:25.39 | Jucato | if a bug has already been reported |
| 03:26.16 | Jucato | i just switched from firefox to chrome about 2 weeks ago. maybe i should give opera a spin some time |
| 03:26.25 | Chris_R1986 | i also like firefox, i really like being able to use web apps with their own window, though, and firefox has traditionally sucked at that.. |
| 03:26.31 | Jucato | haven't used it since ... hm ... opera on nokia phones :) |
| 03:27.08 | Chris_R1986 | however, the app called ice from peppermint os has added firefox functionality to it... again though, in kde this would not work, but other desktops maybe |
| 03:27.15 | Chris_R1986 | peppermint os is pretty nice too |
| 03:27.52 | Chris_R1986 | i was playing with it for a few days, but i am playing with kde neon now... i think it might be my new daily driver. i have never used a kde distro long term, though. |
| 03:27.58 | Chris_R1986 | but this may change now |
| 03:28.00 | Jucato | firefox can be a bit of a hog sometimes, especially on Windows (which i still use). the last straw was when it messed up my bookmarks for the Nth time |
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| 05:01.09 | kishore96 | *Is |
| 05:01.50 | kishore96 | I want to make the panel transparent when no window is maximized. I've figure out how to modify the svgs, but I can't get plasma to automatically switch themes. |
| 05:01.58 | kishore96 | *figured |
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| 10:35.32 | Sho_ | libreuser: no |
| 10:36.21 | libreuser | uh, so do you agree with freesoftware philosophy? |
| 10:36.47 | Sho_ | sure |
| 10:37.26 | libreuser | and you know that Ggl is working against it, right? |
| 10:38.18 | Sho_ | we don't turn away donations we can use to make free software |
| 10:38.33 | Sho_ | most of KDE e.V.s income is from individual donations, should we ask an ethics quiz to thousands of people? |
| 10:38.43 | Sho_ | it doesn't scale |
| 10:38.57 | Sho_ | what we do have control over is that our stuff is free software |
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| 11:04.56 | kevin123 | I upgraded the packages on my distro (arch linux) yesterday, since then when I click anything (application launcher, nofications, panel settings, volume. time. etc) but a program on the panel there is a 2-3 second delay before it appears, here's a list of the packages that were upgrade (I use X with a Intel GPU) https://gist.githubusercontent.com/kevinlekiller/dcb43b43e2e4c5a145db172ff5ea5068/raw/b8da9a3fbbc659f856a8143949174e216d94bbbf/gistfile1. |
| 11:04.57 | kevin123 | txt |
| 11:06.33 | kevin123 | tried making a new user, but same issue |
| 11:06.44 | kevin123 | also tried a different kernel |
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| 11:18.47 | BluesKaj | Hi folks |
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| 11:45.38 | utack | is someone forum admin here? " Client rejected by automatic spammer detection system" is not the best way to register.. |
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| 11:57.14 | BluesKaj | utack, join #freenode for registration issues |
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| 12:00.30 | utack | forum.kde.org is where i wanted to register |
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| 12:08.03 | tosky | utack: unfortunately the forums and generally identity.kde.org faced massive spam attack, so some of the required rules to not have people working 24/7 on removing spam can be too restrictive |
| 12:09.30 | tosky | utack: is the registration on identity.kde.org that it is failing? Please send an email to sysadmin at kde org |
| 12:09.43 | BluesKaj | my username and pw aren't accepted anymore on the kde forums |
| 12:10.01 | BluesKaj | so it seems broken |
| 12:10.06 | tosky | it is not |
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| 12:10.25 | tosky | did you login recently? |
| 12:10.57 | BluesKaj | not for a long time |
| 12:13.49 | tosky | how much long time? forum switched to identity.kde.org but it was quite some time ago |
| 12:14.01 | tosky | switched to identity.kde.org only for authentication |
| 12:14.26 | BluesKaj | don't remember |
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| 12:14.50 | lordievader | Logging in with my KDE identity worked fine here. |
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| 12:16.05 | alpha | How should I install nvidia-drivers in KDE Neon ? |
| 12:16.32 | BluesKaj | odd , that it says my emai adress is already taken then when I got to change the pw, it tells me the email address is invalid/doesn't exist |
| 12:18.08 | BluesKaj | so i guess the my kde ID isn't that important since I haven't logged in for yrs, most likely ;-) |
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| 12:19.44 | alpha | Does anyone have any idea how to install nvidia-drivers ? |
| 12:19.58 | alpha | GPU: Nvidia GTX 960m |
| 12:20.51 | lordievader | alpha: Since it is based on (K)Ubuntu, is the 'additional drivers' utility available? |
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| 12:21.13 | alpha | Negative lordievader. |
| 12:21.31 | tosky | BluesKaj: so for you too, please send an email to sysadmin@ |
| 12:22.04 | alpha | I was going through settings and couldn't find anything relevant to Graphic Drivers. |
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| 12:22.39 | libreuser | Sho_: hum, but why Parabola developers have always to check and modify your packages (to make them libresoftware)? |
| 12:22.41 | lordievader | alpha: What 'nvidia-*' packages are available? (apt-cache search nvidia |
| 12:22.42 | lordievader | ) |
| 12:23.29 | BluesKaj | alpha, system settings>driver manager? |
| 12:23.35 | Sho_ | libreuser: dunno what Parabola is |
| 12:23.38 | tosky | libreuser: do you have exact pointers to the changes that they perform? We take care of the licenses used |
| 12:23.57 | libreuser | Sho_: If you are truly agree with freesoftware, please don't hesitate to be in contact with them. |
| 12:24.25 | libreuser | #parabola |
| 12:24.32 | Sho_ | libreuser: If they make changes maybe they should contact us to upstream them |
| 12:25.16 | tosky | libreuser: we have mailing lists for distributions; when there are issues like this, they are usually reported |
| 12:25.23 | alpha | BluesKaj, that's the thing there is no driver-manager |
| 12:25.41 | BluesKaj | alpha, OS? |
| 12:25.49 | tosky | alpha, BluesKaj: there is no driver manager module provided by kde.org, it could be a custom module by some distribution |
| 12:26.13 | utack | tosky okay |
| 12:26.17 | tosky | libreuser: we changed/fixed the license on data files, or on code, or even changed the names of some programs |
| 12:26.22 | alpha | lordievader, http://pastebin.com/xUKBMgPe |
| 12:26.56 | alpha | KDE Neon 5. |
| 12:27.10 | libreuser | but you are still packaging Ggl nonfree things |
| 12:28.00 | tosky | libreuser: where? |
| 12:28.03 | utack | another question: in the control panel list of running programs, can the positions be changed? simple drag and drop does not work |
| 12:28.09 | Sho_ | I don't know what 'Ggl nonfree things' are |
| 12:28.16 | libreuser | and freesoftware people are who take care of check about freesoftware. |
| 12:28.29 | alpha | So what do you people suggest ? |
| 12:28.31 | tosky | libreuser: we do take care |
| 12:28.33 | Sho_ | utack: go to the settings and change sorting to Manual |
| 12:28.53 | libreuser | I really wish that. |
| 12:28.54 | lordievader | alpha: I'd install the 'ubuntu-drivers-common' tool and let that figure out which version of the driver is best suited for your card. (Or stick with nouveau ) |
| 12:29.00 | Sho_ | libreuser: stop mindless trolling/attacking and be specific about what the issues are |
| 12:29.14 | alpha | Ok. |
| 12:29.24 | utack | Sho_ sytem settings or some kind of option through right click on the panel? |
| 12:29.42 | tosky | alpha: did you check the ubuntu wiki for suggestions on how to install nvidia drivers? |
| 12:29.50 | alpha | So I will install ubuntu-drivers-common and then see where it takes. |
| 12:29.53 | Sho_ | utack: the latter |
| 12:29.55 | libreuser | thera are a lot of freedom issues. |
| 12:30.01 | alpha | No. tosky . |
| 12:30.07 | tosky | alpha: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia |
| 12:30.26 | utack | awesome, thanks Sho_ |
| 12:31.06 | tosky | libreuser: which ones? Really, we do check it, but like there could be bugs in the code, there could be bits which were not noticed |
| 12:31.28 | tosky | libreuser: now, if you would be nice and help reporting those issues, it would be useful for everyone |
| 12:31.35 | alpha | Also how can I check which Graphics Card Iam using. |
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| 12:32.24 | tosky | alpha: this is going a bit OT here; also, do you mean the graphic card or the driver? Unless you have an hybrid system, you have one card |
| 12:33.00 | lordievader | alpha: 'lspci -k|grep -A2 Graphics' |
| 12:34.13 | alpha | I have integrated graphics Intel HD 550 or 530 and Dedicated Nvidia GTX 960m |
| 12:36.37 | alpha | INTEL HD 530 & Nvidia GTX 960m. |
| 12:37.58 | libreuser | you're recommending right now nivdia drivers?!? |
| 12:38.13 | alpha | yes. |
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| 12:38.42 | alpha | This is a fresh install. And I wish to use NVIDIA instead of Intel. |
| 12:39.03 | lordievader | alpha: You'd want to read 'https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee' too. |
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| 12:39.33 | alpha | I have to do a nomodeset to boot. As there are some problems with Optimus Cards. |
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| 12:41.43 | BluesKaj | ahh Optimus ..that's problematic |
| 12:41.58 | tosky | alpha: nomodeset is not really what you want long-term; but anyway, I'd suggest to move this to a distribution channel |
| 12:42.25 | alpha | Is there a work around for nomodeset |
| 12:42.27 | alpha | ? |
| 12:42.50 | alpha | nouveau.noaccel=1 freezes at boot time. |
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| 13:47.29 | DocScrutinizer05 | I have a problem with kmail: a sub-sub-sub-subdir (actually 4 of them) show mails incl threads and all in the list, but none of the mails shows body content. Trying to archive the dir http://wstaw.org/m/2017/02/20/plasma-desktopx17764.png gives me Error http://wstaw.org/m/2017/02/20/plasma-desktopj17764.png. How to proceed to recover? |
| 13:48.30 | DocScrutinizer05 | sorry, Kontact Version 4.11.5 |
| 13:49.03 | DocScrutinizer05 | OpenSuse |
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| 13:52.48 | DocScrutinizer05 | http://paste.opensuse.org/93937308 |
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| 14:27.40 | xeo | is powerdevil needed if im not using hibernation or doesnt running laptop? |
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| 14:38.44 | rdieter | xeo: yes |
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| 14:39.51 | kishore96 | I presume it also takes care of the screen locking after some time, &c. |
| 14:41.01 | asturm | also, screen suspend etc. |
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| 14:42.13 | tosky | asturm: the khotkeys patch was backported |
| 14:42.29 | asturm | tosky: I've seen that, thx |
| 14:42.45 | asturm | did send the mail yesterday after looking at the schedule |
| 14:42.55 | tosky | yep |
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| 14:43.13 | tosky | I reminded people this morning during the weekly meeting on #plasma |
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| 14:44.05 | asturm | we'll see for how long we support 5.8, right now I don't have a system left |
| 14:44.20 | asturm | 5.9 just works too good |
| 14:44.44 | kishore96 | Those interactive screenshot notifications are just amazing. <3 |
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| 15:42.51 | ashka | hi, I upgraded from KDE4 not too long ago. Are lockscreen widgets dead? |
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| 15:45.29 | rdieter | ashka: it's all plasma/qml now, if that's what you're asking |
| 15:45.58 | leszek | ashka: basically yes. But look at rdieters answer you can code your own lockscreen in qml if you wish |
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| 15:46.31 | ashka | ah alright. thank you rdieter and leszek for the answers, I'll look into that |
| 15:49.49 | libreuser | nvidia drivers are proprietary software. They don't respect users rights. (against freesoftware) |
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| 15:56.07 | Taoki | Is anyone else getting a weird bug with the task manager? If you move anything on it, it automatically pins it... |
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| 16:07.49 | dontknow | i am seeing there is "opengl 3.1" for renderer. by default it is "opengl 2.0". should i switch to "opengl 3.1"? |
| 16:09.15 | leszek | dontknow: by default it uses 2.0 for almost all hardware as it seems to be the safest. You can try out 3.1 and see if it also works fine. Usually I don't see any urge to switch if the one version you are running with is working just fine |
| 16:10.19 | dontknow | i see |
| 16:10.29 | dontknow | i want to try it :D |
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| 17:27.21 | Guest81173 | How can I change the default mouse behaviour from action to select? |
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| 17:28.56 | tosky | Guest81173: do you mean whether to use single click or double click? |
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| 17:29.49 | Guest81173 | tosky, yes |
| 17:30.05 | tosky | Guest81173: systemsettings, input devices, mouse |
| 17:30.17 | tosky | (it should not be much different from other environments) |
| 17:32.25 | Guest81173 | tosky, found it thanks |
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| 17:34.33 | Azzyzz | hello people |
| 17:36.16 | Azzyzz | I want to start helping with the KDE project but i`m pretty lost |
| 17:36.41 | Azzyzz | have no idiea where to start |
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| 17:43.22 | JZA | hi anyone here uses the KDE native IM |
| 17:43.39 | JZA | called 'Instant Messaging' (my guess is telepathy) |
| 17:43.42 | JZA | I wonder if there is an OTR for it |
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| 18:41.00 | wschlich | does anyone know how I can prevent the plasma 5.9.2 task manager from automatically pinning frequently used applications? :( |
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| 18:51.33 | dontknow | wschlich, you mean the area where sound, wireless icon section? |
| 18:52.37 | wschlich | dontknow: nope, I mean the task manager :) |
| 18:53.58 | dontknow | i didn't know task manager has such feature lol |
| 18:54.03 | dontknow | but i use 5.8 |
| 18:54.51 | j_koreth | Does right clicking an application in the task manager, going to move to desktop, say : Move to Current Desktop, All Desktops 1 Desktop Desktop 1, 2 Desktop Desktop 2, etc for you all? |
| 18:55.32 | Throgkt | Yes. |
| 18:58.02 | j_koreth | Thank you Throgkt |
| 18:58.10 | Throgkt | Welcome, j_koreth |
| 18:58.26 | j_koreth | Does anyone know what happened to bugs.kde.org? It used to have a different theme that fit in with the forums |
| 18:58.43 | asturm | j_koreth: too big to port to new bugzilla version |
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| 19:01.50 | j_koreth | asturm : Sorry but will this change be permanent? |
| 19:02.04 | asturm | no idea# |
| 19:02.32 | j_koreth | asturm: alright thank you |
| 19:02.37 | dontknow | there are lots of configuration in plasma but my local language translation is a mess |
| 19:03.11 | asturm | dontknow: what's the problem? |
| 19:03.32 | dontknow | i just yelling to translation |
| 19:03.48 | asturm | oh, it's just bad? |
| 19:04.45 | dontknow | yes |
| 19:05.26 | wschlich | dontknow: solved by applying https://cgit.kde.org/plasma-desktop.git/commit/?h=Plasma/5.9&id=d1f2b1e5241bbb42f5d797699051a9875ad7200a |
| 19:05.31 | wschlich | kthxbye :-) |
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| 19:06.59 | dontknow | asturm, they translated "tearing" as something related to water |
| 19:07.13 | dontknow | lol |
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| 19:08.25 | sakib | hello !! |
| 19:08.36 | asturm | dontknow: the good thing about translations is, you don't have to be into programming to join and improve your language |
| 19:09.01 | dontknow | asturm, yeah :p |
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| 19:09.48 | asturm | I though about doing the same for German translations, but then I find translated interfaces just awkward |
| 19:09.59 | asturm | instead going with en_GB |
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| 19:14.31 | sakib | can anyone guide me on how to become a kde contributor |
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| 19:39.02 | rdieter | dontknow: systemsettings->shortcuts->custom shortcuts->edit->new->global shortcut->command/url |
| 19:39.44 | dontknow | rdieter, i mean the icon shortcut |
| 19:40.10 | dontknow | i want to create an icon and it will launch my command |
| 19:40.34 | rdieter | dontknow: oh, easier :) right click desktop (folder containment) -> create new -> link to application |
| 19:40.40 | rdieter | (is one way) |
| 19:42.15 | rdieter | I guess it doesn't have to be a folderview containment, the desktop one should work the same |
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| 19:44.13 | rdieter | dontknow: if the command you run is not a gui application, there's a little extra work (need to set advanced option to run it in a terminal) |
| 19:45.37 | dontknow | rdieter, i solved it. thanks |
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| 20:02.09 | d1rewolf | hi guys. anyone know if it's possible to make KDE Connect work across a usb cable (ethernet over usb or something similar)? |
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| 20:13.37 | rdieter | d1rewolf: as far as I know, it only works via wifi |
| 20:14.16 | rdieter | (I've thought similar in the past, was interested if bluetooth was possible, for example) |
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| 20:22.03 | d1rewolf | rdieter: ok, great, thanks. But it does work locally? (i.e., no proxy of any sort) |
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| 20:29.52 | rdieter | d1rewolf: what does work locally mean? |
| 20:30.29 | rdieter | all I know is that it only works via wifi, and even then, you need to be on the same subnet (broadcast discovery) |
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| 20:36.39 | d1rewolf | rdieter: i meant it only stays on the local network. Doesn't go through some cloud community kde server |
| 20:37.27 | rdieter | d1rewolf: ok, then yes |
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| 20:40.31 | quup | Hi, how come keyboard settings are ignored after about 1s? For instance I go to Keybaord Hardware and Layout -> Advanced -> Position of Compose key -> Caps Lock check it and click apply, and I have about 5s to use it to make an "Ã¥" but then it doesn't work until I uncheck/check and click apply again |
| 20:40.39 | quup | this is on ubuntu 16.10 with kubuntu-backports |
| 20:40.53 | quup | same thing happens frequently with keyboard layout and I have to use setxkbmap to change layout |
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| 20:58.00 | Hoffman | heya! |
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| 21:00.27 | Hoffman | I'm running Plasmashell 5.9.1, and the search capability of the default launcher (kickoff) isn't there anymore. The expected behavior is that I'd open the launcher and just start typing, but nothing happens when I just start typing. |
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| 21:00.46 | Hoffman | Does anybody know if this is a setting of some sort? I've searched online for it, and searched through system-settings |
| 21:00.51 | Hoffman | (to no avail) |
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| 21:09.17 | dontknow | Hoffman, have you looked the search settings? |
| 21:09.25 | dontknow | at |
| 21:10.03 | Hoffman | Actually, I just tried adding a different launcher, and that launcher had search |
| 21:10.10 | Hoffman | but as soon as I added it, both had search |
| 21:10.19 | Hoffman | then I removed the newly added one, and the first one had search restored. |
| 21:10.20 | Hoffman | weird. |
| 21:11.23 | Hoffman | dontknow: thanks though! |
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| 21:12.22 | dontknow | it must be a bug |
| 21:12.52 | dontknow | Hoffman, alt+f2 works? |
| 21:13.30 | Hoffman | dontknow: yeah, alt-f2/krunner always worked |
| 21:13.40 | Hoffman | otherwise I'd have been crippled! :P |
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| 21:22.46 | dontknow | plasma is really buggy |
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