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| 03:16.08 | crazydip | is kde git down? i'm getting Unable to look up anongit.kde.org (port 9418) (Temporary failure in name resolution) |
| 03:18.12 | crazydip | think it may be on my end ... pos dns servers :/ |
| 03:20.01 | crazydip | brb |
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| 03:23.37 | crazydip | false alarm, it was my pos isp dns... forgot to change it... yay for open nic & their open dns servers :) |
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| 05:19.20 | Abhijit | hi |
| 05:19.41 | Abhijit | I am connected to Internet I am on IRC. But KDE gives Network error 4 while attempting to download new mouse cursor and desktop themes. |
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| 05:29.28 | crazydip | Abhijit: there's a chance that what you're trying to download is a link to a package that no longer exists (because the author deleted it or whatnot) |
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| 05:30.33 | Abhijit | crazydip, that should happen about a specific package |
| 05:30.47 | Abhijit | I am here talking about kde can not download "anything" at all. |
| 05:30.57 | Abhijit | nothing. just blank screen with network error 4 |
| 05:31.01 | Abhijit | but here I am on Internet. |
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| 05:32.56 | crazydip | Abhijit: not sure what's wrong, I just tried downloading the most recent mouse theme and it worked.... maybe mention exactly what version of KDE you're on (including applications version) and what distro, maybe someone knows what's going on |
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| 05:33.07 | bshah | Error 4 means.. I think kde-look.org is down... |
| 05:33.10 | bshah | maybe... |
| 05:33.19 | crazydip | bshah: i just tried and it works for me |
| 05:33.27 | bshah | okay, scratch that |
| 05:33.27 | Abhijit | it used my gpg key first. does that matter? why does it need my gpg key? |
| 05:34.24 | Abhijit | KDE Development Platform: 4.10.5 |
| 05:35.01 | crazydip | Abhijit: also one more thing to try: when you're on the list of mouse themes or whatnot to download, click details, then click "homepage" see if it redirects you and you end up correctly at the kde-look.org page |
| 05:35.19 | Abhijit | crazydip, you not getting the point. |
| 05:35.27 | Abhijit | crazydip, just a sec. let me send you screenshot. |
| 05:37.13 | Abhijit | crazydip, there is nothing! http://i.imgur.com/hUBRexB.png |
| 05:38.11 | crazydip | Abhijit: what distro? and try what I said above |
| 05:38.21 | Abhijit | Centos 7 |
| 05:39.46 | Abhijit | right cliking on cursor theme dont give anything. on desktop theme in details tab there is no option of homepage |
| 05:40.24 | crazydip | www.kde-look.org - can you go to that page? |
| 05:40.33 | crazydip | as in does it load correctly? |
| 05:40.44 | Abhijit | yes. |
| 05:40.52 | crazydip | ok that rules out dns issue :/ |
| 05:40.53 | Abhijit | I can see all the theme options on the website. |
| 05:41.01 | Abhijit | ok |
| 05:41.41 | Abhijit | do I need to enable some firewall or something since its Centos! |
| 05:41.54 | crazydip | I'm not sure, but man, 4.10 is insanely old, I don't know maybe someone knows what could cause that issue maybe it's a bug |
| 05:41.56 | Abhijit | I have not done anything in firewall by myself though. |
| 05:42.09 | crazydip | good point with firewall |
| 05:42.11 | Abhijit | how can I upgrade to latest "stable" kde? |
| 05:42.14 | crazydip | don't know :/ |
| 05:42.18 | Abhijit | :-o |
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| 05:42.45 | crazydip | well first off don't use centos unless you wan't crazy old shit |
| 05:42.57 | tret | it's also too buggy |
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| 05:43.28 | tret | buggylinux TM |
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| 05:43.47 | Abhijit | I thought this will give me long term stable os |
| 05:44.09 | Abhijit | on ubuntu they are not using upstream kernel and I have to upgrade every 6 month since their LTS lags behind in feuture and bug fixes |
| 05:44.10 | tret | because centos copy pastes stuff from redhat it becomes too buggy |
| 05:44.14 | Abhijit | what shall i prefer? |
| 05:44.21 | crazydip | yes long term, stable, but don't expect anything new to work :D |
| 05:44.27 | crazydip | oh god not ubuntu |
| 05:44.30 | Abhijit | :-p |
| 05:44.45 | Abhijit | then which one? I need to do wed dev + android dev and some linux devops |
| 05:45.32 | crazydip | I don't know what you want out of a distro... you don't want to upgrade often, but you want new stuff... that's kind of mutually exclusive |
| 05:45.40 | tret | Abhijit: when did this problem appear? |
| 05:46.12 | Abhijit | tret, this is the first time i tried to install cursor or desktop themes since installingt this centos. because i was buys with other stuff now I got free time |
| 05:46.28 | tret | it might be because you have old kde |
| 05:46.48 | crazydip | Abhijit: yeah that's *really* old |
| 05:46.51 | Abhijit | ok. |
| 05:47.03 | crazydip | Abhijit: you know there is one much more simple way to go about it: install them manually |
| 05:47.09 | tret | the rest of your kde works fine |
| 05:47.15 | Abhijit | hows that fedora derivative which isa seperate new project and uses kde? |
| 05:47.18 | crazydip | simple compared to installing a new distro that is |
| 05:47.27 | Abhijit | ok. |
| 05:47.39 | crazydip | fedora is crazy unstable :) |
| 05:47.45 | Abhijit | its derivative |
| 05:48.04 | Abhijit | whats best kde distro as per your opinion? |
| 05:48.09 | crazydip | openSUSE by far |
| 05:48.42 | Abhijit | ok. i was there but left it due to some issues while they were having major arch change issue |
| 05:48.46 | Abhijit | let me try it once again. |
| 05:48.54 | Abhijit | tumbleweed or regular? |
| 05:48.59 | crazydip | arch change? you mean tumbleweed a few weeks ago? |
| 05:49.09 | Abhijit | no. few years ago! maybe 1 or 2 years ago |
| 05:49.12 | Abhijit | or something |
| 05:49.25 | Abhijit | it was unstable for my work at that time. |
| 05:49.51 | crazydip | I've been on openSUSE for over 2yrs never heard of any arch issues maybe you were using crazy unstable (at that time) Tumbleweed |
| 05:50.21 | Abhijit | :-D |
| 05:50.22 | Abhijit | yes |
| 05:50.25 | crazydip | yeah |
| 05:50.36 | Abhijit | let me get non tumbleweed this time |
| 05:50.49 | crazydip | that's when Greg Kroah Hartman was pretty much the only person doing Tumbleweed and doing it by hand... crazy dude |
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| 05:51.10 | Abhijit | ok |
| 05:51.38 | crazydip | btw, I'm on Tumbleweed now and it's great... have newest KDE and all that... but if you want "stable" go with regular release... |
| 05:51.48 | Abhijit | right. |
| 05:52.06 | tret | Abhijit: you can get mouse cursors from centos archives |
| 05:52.27 | tret | google search how to install mouse cursors on centos by yum |
| 05:52.34 | crazydip | tret: or he can just download them off kde-look and extract by hand |
| 05:53.13 | Abhijit | sure I can do that. but its not just about cursor theme. Since I am getting old KDE and other old software thats why I will switch to suse. |
| 05:53.32 | crazydip | ok |
| 05:54.48 | tret | debian too has old kde |
| 05:54.57 | tret | i am using debian |
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| 05:55.58 | crazydip | not that old.... compared to centos :D |
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| 05:59.46 | tret | once someone asked me to compile an app on centos from the over the internet |
| 05:59.52 | tret | and it had old gtk |
| 06:00.14 | crazydip | Abhijit: I don't know how it is if you install fresh desktop openSUSE, but you may also have the firewall on... lucky for you, YaST2 makes configuring (or turning off) the firewall super easy |
| 06:00.46 | tret | and i compiled the whole gnome via an automation script gnome had |
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| 06:01.21 | crazydip | Abhijit: I don't know because it's been > 2 years since I've done an install (i just upgraded)... which also means btw you can upgrade stable openSUSE 13.2 to Tumbleweed if you ever decide you need more danger and spice in your life like I did :P |
| 06:01.42 | crazydip | tret: friends don't let friends use gnome |
| 06:01.48 | crazydip | shame on you! |
| 06:02.30 | Abhijit | crazydip, nah. I am fine with regular. since this is a work computer. |
| 06:02.57 | Abhijit | I did not leave suse happily. I liked its yast,zapper and build tool. |
| 06:03.11 | Abhijit | many "only deb" packages are available for suse due the build service |
| 06:03.34 | crazydip | Abhijit: yeah or you can just build whatever you want yourself in the OBS |
| 06:03.39 | crazydip | and share with everyone else |
| 06:03.44 | crazydip | including building for other distros |
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| 06:04.50 | Abhijit | yeah |
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| 06:31.02 | tret | Abhijit: just to say a last word i recmmend you not install new os |
| 06:31.20 | tret | os installation can go bad and you be left without an os |
| 06:31.28 | tret | it's a danger worth mentioning |
| 06:31.45 | Abhijit | amm....okey.... |
| 06:31.58 | tret | you can just use the cursors centos has from yum |
| 06:32.05 | Abhijit | for the time being will install themes manually. |
| 06:32.41 | Abhijit | just been to there page and they are doing a lot of great things like snapper etc |
| 06:32.45 | Abhijit | :-) |
| 06:34.37 | tret | i hate kde-themes sites i think those themes are bad :p |
| 06:34.51 | tret | i just use the default |
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| 06:40.49 | haridas | Any Idea why this is happening, ( I'm on Kubuntu 15.04, KDE 5.3 ) |
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| 06:44.53 | tret | i cannot answer i don't know, wait for someone else to answer |
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| 06:48.34 | haridas | tret: Ok cool. |
| 06:49.25 | tret | what does startx error say? |
| 06:51.08 | haridas | tret: kaccess failed. and the kdeinit5 terminated |
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| 06:51.37 | tret | now we wait for someone else to answer :p |
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| 06:52.42 | superrorc | Hello there! |
| 06:53.07 | haridas | tret: :) |
| 06:53.37 | superrorc | how can i add custom options to run apps from launcher |
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| 06:53.49 | superrorc | like --user-data-dir=/123 prefix |
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| 07:26.08 | haridas | tret: Now I got it working... Not sure why this happened, I coudn't really trace back it. One thing is I installed "kubuntu-desktop" ( Wondering how all working before without this) |
| 07:26.45 | haridas | And I did change the sddm to gdm and switch it back.. to sddm after login into gnome. |
| 07:26.58 | haridas | Some of these combination would have saved my life I think :) |
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| 08:49.27 | Bunk_ | Hey. A short q. I´m trying to find a dark theme, but when i have chosen one, the Dolphin- window shows files in black and white stripes. How can i change that ? |
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| 08:50.34 | Bunk_ | For example. Dark zion and Purple pink darkness |
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| 09:09.35 | Bunk_ | Is KDE able to apply darker colors on the main window - lets say Firefox ? |
| 09:10.14 | tret | firefox is gtk so you may have some trouble with firefox --- chromium too |
| 09:11.40 | Bunk_ | And there is no alternative way, or ? |
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| 09:12.54 | tret | open konqueror browser to see what you did so far |
| 09:16.29 | lordievader | Good morning. |
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| 09:17.59 | Bunk_ | tret: OK - |
| 09:19.26 | Bunk_ | Ah, yes. The frame has changed, but not the main window |
| 09:20.44 | tret | there are two themes one for the frame and one for the app itself |
| 09:20.56 | tret | you have to change the app theme |
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| 09:23.16 | tret | go to system settings---->application appearence ---->change the oxygen thingy |
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| 09:25.33 | Bunk_ | Yes - i have found it. May try around a bit |
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| 09:33.38 | Bunk_ | Does not work. Mainframe is the term for what is "inside" a webpage ? |
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| 10:05.18 | cerkauskas | hello. after uninstalling flashplugin, plasma started crashing when I use youtube. https://gist.github.com/anonymous/d8e64890b1611d2b8090 this is my ~/.xsession-errors file, but it doesn't say much to me. Maybe it will give you ideas whats going on? |
| 10:06.08 | blaaa | As I recently acquired a 10b/color display, I have set the bit depth in X to 30, now Plasma has an opaque menu bar |
| 10:06.23 | blaaa | using the proprietary nvidia driver |
| 10:06.45 | tosky | cerkauskas: see the error "Failed to open BO for returned DRI2 buffer (1920x1080, dri2 back buffer, named 34)." |
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| 10:07.12 | tosky | cerkauskas: are you using now the html5 version of youtube? Maybe the acceleration is not really stable |
| 10:07.20 | blaaa | are there any configuration changes necessary or known issues for using 30 bit color? |
| 10:08.03 | tosky | cerkauskas: it seems this, do you see if matches your configuration? https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=84372 |
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| 10:16.46 | cerkauskas | tosky, I'm using html5. And my linux environment is different from information in link you described. |
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| 10:17.17 | tosky | cerkauskas: in the comments below, other people confirm the same issue on other environments |
| 10:17.28 | tosky | cerkauskas: check especially your mesa and kernel version |
| 10:19.07 | cerkauskas | my kernel is 4.1.2-2-ARCH, they mention up to 4.0.x |
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| 10:20.21 | cerkauskas | and my mesa is 10.6.2, not found in that bug report |
| 10:20.48 | cerkauskas | could it be that I don't have MSE & WebM VP9 available? |
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| 10:23.36 | colonolGron | hello |
| 10:24.02 | colonolGron | is it possbile to adjust the kde4 application menu in a way that i looks like in plasam5? i think in plasma 5 its easier to navigate |
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| 10:26.02 | tosky | cerkauskas: I don't know about the media extension part, but really looks like a driver bug |
| 10:26.46 | colonolGron | oh found it :) the setting was just where i didnt expect it :) |
| 10:28.23 | cerkauskas | tosky, which driver? video? |
| 10:28.31 | cerkauskas | i mean graphic |
| 10:28.54 | tosky | cerkauskas: yep; something between the kernel drm driver, mesa and the xorg driver |
| 10:29.13 | cerkauskas | tosky, thank you for that, now I know where to dig deeper. :) |
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| 10:33.31 | BluesKaj | Hey folks |
| 10:34.11 | rindolf | BluesKaj: meow! Sup? |
| 10:34.58 | blaaa | Does anyone have some experience related to 30-bit color mode? I cannot get an opaque K-menu |
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| 10:36.48 | BluesKaj | hey rindolf, morning coffee....it's early here, what's up there? |
| 10:38.40 | wsky | afternoon beer here |
| 10:38.52 | wsky | well, actually noon beer, but, who cares |
| 10:39.25 | Bunk_ | gg |
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| 10:42.33 | BluesKaj | yeah, maybe some beer this aft |
| 10:44.43 | wsky | and yeah |
| 10:44.46 | wsky | pizza! |
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| 10:45.07 | rindolf | BluesKaj: I tried to configure a samba service on my desktop machine which runs the devel version of Mageia. I was unsuccessful. |
| 10:45.27 | rindolf | BluesKaj: but on the bright side I found a script online to clear the iptables configuration. |
| 10:46.18 | BluesKaj | rindolf, odd , samba is usually reliable and easily set up |
| 10:46.50 | rindolf | BluesKaj: well, the old configuration file doesn't work and I don't see a new /etc/samba/smb.conf anywhere |
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| 10:50.10 | guggenheim9000 | is it possible to export tasks from kontact / korganizer? |
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| 11:02.19 | Aristide | guggenheim9000: Yes |
| 11:02.24 | Aristide | guggenheim9000: File / Export :) |
| 11:02.31 | Aristide | And you choose the format ^^ |
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| 11:03.25 | guggenheim9000 | Right - just noticed the tasks where included in ical but not detected on import. Would be nice with a .csv export :) |
| 11:04.01 | guggenheim9000 | Aristide, thx for your answer |
| 11:04.06 | Aristide | AH ! You speak about task ^^ |
| 11:04.11 | Aristide | Sorry, wait I check |
| 11:04.32 | guggenheim9000 | tasks are included in raw ical |
| 11:04.33 | Aristide | Yes you can't export as CSV |
| 11:04.36 | Aristide | But only in ical |
| 11:04.45 | Aristide | Or vcal / html |
| 11:05.01 | guggenheim9000 | yeah - will have to do. have to make convert script |
| 11:05.03 | Aristide | guggenheim9000: You can write an ical â CSV converter ? ^^ |
| 11:05.06 | Aristide | Or use if exist |
| 11:05.14 | guggenheim9000 | roger |
| 11:05.35 | Aristide | Huhu |
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| 11:07.26 | Aristide | So, I have a problem into KF5 apps |
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| 11:07.36 | Aristide | Sometime, Open/Save Dialog don't appear and app freeze |
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| 11:10.56 | guggenheim9000 | some guy wrote a perl script: https://github.com/CharlesNepote/ical2csv |
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| 11:11.13 | guggenheim9000 | to solve me previous problem - in case anyone else has it |
| 11:12.34 | Tazmain | hi all, on plasma5, I have a dark colour scheme but everything is fine, its just ksavedialog that is unreadable. Does anyone know how to set this ? Here is what it looks like http://picpaste.com/DeepinScreenshot20150717131149-WtmHJuWJ.png |
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| 12:30.44 | ashemark | Hi! |
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| 12:30.58 | bshah | hello ashemark |
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| 12:32.17 | ashemark | I'm running the latest kde on arch linux, how do I set up telepathy? |
| 12:33.44 | bshah | what I can think is you've to install telepathy-kde group |
| 12:34.00 | bshah | but sorry, no idea.. I didn't try it.. |
| 12:34.02 | ashemark | ok, lemme check if it's installed.. |
| 12:34.47 | ashemark | well it's already installed, but telepathy is no where to be found on the system. |
| 12:35.28 | bshah | you need to setup accounts from systemsettings.. |
| 12:35.52 | bshah | or whatever.. in short I am wrong person to get help.. :D |
| 12:36.07 | ashemark | ok, np :) |
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| 13:20.05 | nami | hello... |
| 13:20.17 | nami | what if you report a bug and after 1 month no one even read it? |
| 13:20.28 | nami | how do you deal with bugs that no one see |
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| 13:21.26 | nami | how you know if there is something wrong with your ticket or it's just unseen? |
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| 13:23.15 | rdieter_work | nami: your bug has likely been read by someone, just because you've not received any reply does not imply it's not been read (yet) |
| 13:23.52 | nami | rdieter_work: i see |
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| 13:24.01 | nami | without feedback is hard to say |
| 13:24.04 | rdieter_work | also, the case often is simply that there are many more bugs than people to deal with them. So I'd encourage patience and/or make more efforts to diagnose the bug yourself |
| 13:24.18 | nami | rdieter_work: i stopped where is my limit |
| 13:24.24 | nami | i'd like to help if i can |
| 13:24.33 | rdieter_work | that's fine, just accept others have limits too |
| 13:24.52 | nami | well, there is no evidence for that |
| 13:24.57 | nami | at my eyes no one read it |
| 13:25.31 | rdieter_work | there's no evidence either way, but I can say that bug email generally does go to maintainers of the affected component |
| 13:25.47 | nami | yeah it's assigned to specific bugs tracker |
| 13:25.48 | rdieter_work | yes, it could have been ignored... or read |
| 13:25.49 | nami | is not a general bug |
| 13:25.52 | nami | it's about a part of kde |
| 13:25.57 | rdieter_work | what bug #? |
| 13:26.07 | nami | rdieter_work: 349668 |
| 13:27.05 | rdieter_work | that will be fun to reproduce (which some developer will likely have to do first) |
| 13:27.14 | nami | it's easy |
| 13:27.31 | rdieter_work | assuming you have 2 factor auth setup, which is... uncommon |
| 13:27.33 | nami | probably it's a design limit of kdesu |
| 13:27.47 | nami | rdieter_work: why you think it's uncommon? |
| 13:28.05 | rdieter_work | it's uncommon in my experience (personally) |
| 13:28.08 | nami | password come to be less usefull in time |
| 13:28.22 | nami | now you need something that you have to help |
| 13:28.25 | rdieter_work | I've never seen any linux box setup that way (yet) |
| 13:28.26 | nami | instead of just something that you know |
| 13:28.39 | nami | well... consider ssh |
| 13:29.01 | nami | it's not uncommon to use keys |
| 13:29.08 | rdieter_work | I'm just saying it's an uncommon usecase, so another possible reason why it's not getting attention |
| 13:29.19 | nami | i see |
| 13:29.24 | nami | :( |
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| 13:29.56 | nami | big limit of kdesu... |
| 13:30.00 | nami | because pam support that |
| 13:30.02 | rdieter_work | (and... kdesu use should be getting less and less over time too) |
| 13:30.12 | nami | what do you mean? |
| 13:30.15 | nami | what's the new kdesu? |
| 13:30.17 | nami | am i missing something? |
| 13:30.35 | rdieter_work | kdesu is legacy/deprecated, there are much better ways to run privledged code these days (like policykit) |
| 13:31.04 | nami | uhm in a standard kde you are asked a lot of times to get root with kdesu |
| 13:31.10 | BluesKaj | nami, it's kdesudo |
| 13:31.15 | nami | BluesKaj: ??? |
| 13:31.31 | nami | sudo? i don't think so |
| 13:31.39 | nami | it's sudo if ask your password |
| 13:31.41 | BluesKaj | yuo asked , I answered , nami |
| 13:31.42 | nami | if ask root password is su |
| 13:31.56 | rdieter_work | some distros ship a kdesudo thing, which is similar to kdesu |
| 13:31.58 | nami | maybe it's sudo if you don't set a root password |
| 13:32.15 | BluesKaj | for kde apps guis is kdesudo , sudo for the cli |
| 13:32.35 | nami | well, i think the bug is the same |
| 13:32.36 | rdieter_work | BluesKaj: kde.org doesn't ship anything called kdesudo |
| 13:32.46 | nami | it's not designed to except more then 1 password |
| 13:32.59 | nami | while pam is designed to ask whatever you like |
| 13:33.11 | rdieter_work | nami: you could try kdesudo (depending if your distro ships it) |
| 13:33.30 | rdieter_work | afaict, it is developed independantly of kdesu |
| 13:33.34 | nami | kdesudo it's not here |
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| 13:33.37 | nami | command not found |
| 13:33.42 | rdieter_work | try installing it? |
| 13:33.53 | nami | it's not in repo |
| 13:33.58 | rdieter_work | (you haven't mentioned distro yet, but ok) |
| 13:34.05 | nami | fedora |
| 13:34.11 | BluesKaj | rdieter_work, it does on kubuntu |
| 13:34.41 | nami | version 22 |
| 13:34.50 | BluesKaj | probly on debian, nami ? |
| 13:34.53 | nami | fedora |
| 13:35.02 | nami | i'm on debian too but i'm not using kde |
| 13:36.12 | rdieter_work | BluesKaj: fine, I'm just saying it's a 3rd party app/tool, not one shipped by kde.org or any kde/plasma releases |
| 13:36.23 | BluesKaj | running jessie with kde here , I love it , exscept atm I'm testing kubuntu 15.10 |
| 13:36.33 | nami | it's not a problema bout distrubtion here |
| 13:36.39 | nami | it's about kdesu limit/bug |
| 13:36.52 | nami | real problem is that i can't use anything |
| 13:36.58 | nami | if i do not disable multiple-factor auth |
| 13:37.08 | nami | so it's a big issue |
| 13:37.10 | nami | if you need that thing |
| 13:37.25 | BluesKaj | ok nami sorry to interfere, obviously my posts aren't relevant |
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| 13:39.02 | nami | rdieter_work: maybe my bug report is not good enough. but the problem in general is clear |
| 13:39.08 | BluesKaj | usages in kde are becoming different on different distros. more so now it seems |
| 13:39.10 | nami | and you can reproduce with whatever module you like |
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| 13:39.26 | nami | the problem is just there, is not something to do with my particular setup |
| 13:39.44 | nami | BluesKaj: what do you mean by that? |
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| 13:40.53 | BluesKaj | nami, wait til you run plasma 5?KF5 |
| 13:41.01 | nami | ? |
| 13:41.07 | nami | i think plasma 5 is here |
| 13:41.19 | BluesKaj | are you using it? |
| 13:41.23 | nami | probably |
| 13:41.27 | nami | i remember that 5 somewhere |
| 13:41.34 | nami | oh i've got even an issue with that 5 thing |
| 13:41.47 | nami | there the tablet input module that it's not working at all |
| 13:41.51 | nami | that seems designed for plasma 4 |
| 13:42.13 | nami | i'm actually not able to access by gui to tablet settings |
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| 13:42.41 | nami | i asked another time that if someone is here running KDE 5 and use a grapihc table |
| 13:43.40 | BluesKaj | yup , nami you're using plasma 5 |
| 13:44.05 | nami | what's the deal with that plasma 5? |
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| 13:44.31 | BluesKaj | kde has morphed into plasma in 5 , there will be no kde5 |
| 13:44.42 | nami | ... ? |
| 13:44.56 | nami | new name? |
| 13:45.02 | BluesKaj | yes |
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| 13:45.48 | BluesKaj | this cha will need to change it's name soon |
| 13:45.57 | BluesKaj | chat |
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| 13:46.32 | nami | BluesKaj: on what do you base that thing? |
| 13:47.19 | nami | Plasma is the name of the desktop envirenmont i think |
| 13:47.35 | BluesKaj | the kde name seems to be abandoned in favour of plasma , ask the kde devs |
| 13:48.32 | rdieter_work | BluesKaj: it's more a branding/naming thing |
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| 13:48.47 | BluesKaj | I was told a while back with emphasis , there will not be a KDE5 |
| 13:48.48 | rdieter_work | because "what is kde" is ... ambiguous |
| 13:48.55 | rdieter_work | exactly. |
| 13:49.07 | nami | KDE is all the thing |
| 13:49.12 | nami | Plasma is the desktop experience |
| 13:49.25 | rdieter_work | so now we have: KDE (the community), Plasma (the environment), Frameworks (development libraries), Apps (user applications) |
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| 13:50.01 | rdieter_work | but change is hard(tm) |
| 13:50.22 | rdieter_work | a lot of people still refer to the whole collection of stuff above as "KDE" |
| 13:50.42 | rdieter_work | (which isn't bad, but isn't as clear or concise either) |
| 13:51.09 | BluesKaj | rdieter_work, now wouldn't that be KDE5 in it's next version ?...I was corrected on that point most emphatically I might add |
| 13:51.34 | rdieter_work | BluesKaj: correct, "KDE" refers only to the community now, which is...unversioned :) |
| 13:51.53 | rdieter_work | the only thing at v5 these days is plasma |
| 13:52.04 | rdieter_work | well, and Frameworks |
| 13:52.39 | BluesKaj | there's a lot of confusion around this issue and I wish the KDE council would clear it up |
| 13:53.27 | nami | example is that i'm not able the version of all that stuff |
| 13:53.28 | tosky | BluesKaj: there is confusion probably in the news site which don't read the official announcement from kde.org, then, because it's perfectly clear on kde.org |
| 13:53.34 | nami | frameworks, applications, plasma... |
| 13:53.41 | BluesKaj | all they need to say is the desktop environment only plasma |
| 13:53.42 | nami | how do i check every eversion? |
| 13:53.44 | tosky | nami: because there is no unified version, they are different components |
| 13:53.51 | nami | tosky: i'm not saying is bad |
| 13:53.54 | nami | i'm saying i'm not able |
| 13:53.57 | nami | what versions i'm running |
| 13:54.06 | tosky | nami: the help menu is still there |
| 13:54.37 | nami | uhm about kde tell me about frameworks |
| 13:54.40 | tosky | and "About <application>" |
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| 14:33.55 | LjL | how come in KDE5 with a touchscreen certain scrollable things support one-finger scrolling and others two-finger scrolling instead? |
| 14:35.05 | BlaXpirit | LjL, let me guess. some things are made with touch controls in mind |
| 14:35.31 | LjL | but two-finger scrolling is still touch control. |
| 14:35.41 | LjL | it's an inconsistency |
| 14:36.43 | LjL | KDE4 apps simply don't have touch scrolling, and that's a different matter. |
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| 14:38.38 | BlaXpirit | other things use the two finger scrolling which is available systemwide |
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| 14:39.14 | BlaXpirit | LjL, and in some situations one finger scrolling is just not viable, because dragging is used in other ways |
| 14:40.33 | LjL | the two finger scrolling seems to only be available in KDE5 or perhaps Qt5 apps, not really systemwide, is that what you meant? |
| 14:40.52 | LjL | i guess i saw a different approach before, where when a touchscreen was being used, scrolling took precedence over other one-finger actions |
| 14:41.17 | LjL | with, say, long-press to trigger the now-secondary action |
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| 15:48.46 | hassoon | LjL: meh, give it some time, like a year or so, and it will get much better :p |
| 15:48.50 | hassoon | i mean the kde |
| 15:48.53 | hassoon | 5 |
| 15:49.26 | LjL | hassoon: i've given KDE a lot of time, i still think 3 was a lot better than 4 :P but 5 looks good again. only... i've had this touchscreen thing for two years now, and it's been out for longer, and touchscreen is still hardly supported at all by anything :( |
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| 15:50.47 | hassoon | interesting, i have never used a machine with a touch-screen feature in linux |
| 15:51.01 | hassoon | LjL: the kde 5 looks promising though |
| 15:51.05 | hassoon | the design is so juicy |
| 15:51.08 | LjL | agreed |
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| 15:51.21 | hassoon | similair to those modern proprietary OS's like win 8 or 10 |
| 15:51.25 | LjL | it looks very refreshing compared to KDE4 |
| 15:51.45 | LjL | i'm particularly happy about the notification system being a lot less annoying |
| 15:51.59 | hassoon | yep, ye tthe graphics are flat and clean |
| 15:52.04 | hassoon | *yet the * |
| 15:52.29 | hassoon | i will give it some time, until it becomes available for debian :> |
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| 16:15.21 | JyZyXEL | gahhhhh, why can't dolphin sort files based on creation time? D: |
| 16:18.57 | dieselweasel | Control -> Sort By -> Date? |
| 16:19.18 | JyZyXEL | that is modification date |
| 16:19.25 | dieselweasel | oh |
| 16:19.33 | dieselweasel | don't know then :| |
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| 16:20.22 | JyZyXEL | filesystems often have more timestamps for files |
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| 16:20.32 | JyZyXEL | like ctime, atime and crtime |
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| 17:28.58 | crazydip | I don't know what happened, but krunner in kde5 is sooooooooooooooooo much better than in kde4.... fucking awesome! I used to hate using it on kde4 because results were bad, now they tend to be spot on - thx KDE devs! |
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| 17:30.23 | crazydip | dieselweasel: I remember searching for that options like 4 years ago ;) also asked about it.... if you really want it, open request I would assume ctime would be easy to implement (at least on Linux) |
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| 17:38.06 | crazydip | wait scratch that, real creation time I don't think is even recorded by most filesystems so that makes no sense |
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| 17:38.30 | crazydip | in ls "creation time" is really inode modification time (idiotic wording, I know) |
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| 17:40.28 | crazydip | makes sense when you think about it, mv a b, now wtf do you do with real "creation time", do you modify it or leave it, if you leave it it makes no sense, if you modify it, you're back at inode modification time ;) |
| 17:40.32 | crazydip | ^ dieselweasel |
| 17:41.07 | crazydip | so the universe makes sense again |
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| 18:50.32 | Justice | what part is localesettings of KDE if I want to file a bug? |
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| 18:52.56 | Justice | by that i mean Regional settings |
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| 19:11.22 | vedu | hello. what is the correct way to auto mount partitions (including ntfs) |
| 19:13.25 | redeyedman | install ntfs-3g first |
| 19:13.31 | redeyedman | vedu: |
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| 19:25.01 | vedu | redeyedman: sorry. yes I am here. already instaleld |
| 19:26.24 | vedu | I messed up my fstab and GUI wasn't starting on boot |
| 19:31.03 | daniel2 | Is the maintainer of kdeconnect in this channel? |
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| 19:48.46 | mrphantom | daniel2: No, kdeconnect maintainer's handle is albertvaka and you can find him in #kde-devel but he rarely comes on irc. mostly only during weekends |
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| 19:49.11 | daniel2 | ah |
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| 19:50.22 | mrphantom | daniel2: but if you facing some bug in it just ask it there, someone else may reply there. |
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| 20:04.31 | saeron | hi |
| 20:04.59 | saeron | someone can tell me why amarok don reconize my minidln |
| 20:05.13 | saeron | i actually activete the pluggin upnp |
| 20:05.37 | saeron | but amarok dont show the server |
| 20:05.51 | saeron | when i actually i am using ion my tv all time |
| 20:07.16 | saeron | cant tell me someone at least an idea |
| 20:07.25 | saeron | of the problem |
| 20:07.40 | saeron | because i cant find the same problem online |
| 20:07.51 | saeron | and i dont know what to find |
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| 20:10.06 | rindolf | saeron: hi. |
| 20:10.24 | rindolf | saeron: I don't understand. |
| 20:10.33 | rindolf | saeron: and BTW - there's #amarok too. |
| 20:11.05 | saeron | yes sorry |
| 20:11.12 | mrphantom | saeron: I think upnp is no longer supported in amarok |
| 20:11.19 | saeron | just i have problems whit the upnp conectoion on amarock |
| 20:11.31 | saeron | dont show me the server dat i have |
| 20:11.36 | saeron | ooooo |
| 20:12.00 | saeron | so i cant take my online net music now? |
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| 20:12.12 | saeron | can you tellme please another player for this? |
| 20:12.16 | mrphantom | saeron: sadly no :( |
| 20:12.41 | saeron | because cantata have not the chance at same |
| 20:13.01 | saeron | and i always use amarok in kde so .... |
| 20:13.05 | mrphantom | you can try plasma media center |
| 20:13.32 | mrphantom | I had created upnp plugin in that but it's not still in development version |
| 20:13.50 | mrphantom | you will have to build ashish/upnp branch for using upnp in plasma mediacenter |
| 20:14.16 | mrphantom | s/not still/still/ :-P |
| 20:14.34 | saeron | uf |
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| 20:15.00 | saeron | i am actually intaling plasma media center but compilate a plugin.... i dont know |
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| 20:16.50 | saeron | mmm i dont like the idea of a media center for dat |
| 20:16.57 | saeron | but thx for your help |
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| 20:17.23 | saeron | i dont like to hace a fullscrean for play music |
| 20:18.01 | mrphantom | Building is easy once you are relavent with its steps :) |
| 20:18.23 | mrphantom | that's our personal choice |
| 20:18.24 | mrphantom | np |
| 20:18.57 | saeron | i understand why people like media center but its not for me |
| 20:19.24 | saeron | i like more the idea to have a program in second plane |
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| 20:24.13 | crazydip | saeron: maybe clementine player has what you're looking for? |
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| 20:52.11 | saeron | :quit |
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| 20:59.03 | SpinningWheels | was trying to install this http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Icon+Tasks?content=144808 and rand into this https://paste.kde.org/ppzzzcfnt/wp3aak |
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| 22:04.18 | Sammy222 | hello |
| 22:10.00 | Sammy222 | i am using ssh -X from mac to linux and want to connect to an already existing running kde application that is running on the desktop. |
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| 22:11.45 | Sammy222 | using xrdp i can start the app. but while using ssh -X i want to open the already running app konversation |
| 22:11.58 | Sammy222 | any advice or direction would be appreciated |
| 22:12.28 | Sammy222 | maybe there is a way to show the sessions of a kde application that i can reconnect to? |
| 22:12.31 | Sammy222 | or something? |
| 22:12.58 | Sammy222 | like with klauncher or something? |
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| 22:22.45 | crazydip | moral of this story?: using a mac is self torture, don't do it |
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| 22:36.42 | demm | crazydip: for ring-kde you need to build opendht, ring-daemon & ring-lrc first |
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| 22:49.17 | crazydip | demm: thanks! but where is ring-daemon & ring-irc ok kde git? |
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| 22:49.27 | crazydip | ok = on |
| 22:50.03 | demm | no, check the docs on ring http://ring.cx/ |
| 22:50.40 | demm | crazydip: https://projects.savoirfairelinux.com/projects/ring/wiki/How_to_build |
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| 22:53.07 | crazydip | demm: did you end up getting it to build on your distro? |
| 22:54.37 | demm | crazydip: :) http://wstaw.org/m/2015/07/18/Screenshot_20150716_200140.png |
| 22:56.22 | crazydip | demm: server not found :( |
| 22:56.33 | crazydip | demm: can you share your build files / scripts? |
| 22:56.49 | crazydip | demm: I know we have different distros but it'll help me a lot |
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