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| 01:00.06 | roberth1990 | how can I make kwrite be quiet when opening it in a shell? |
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| 01:14.48 | rdieter | roberth1990: depends, what do you see? (mine's quiet, but i've made efforts to find/remove extraneous output) |
| 01:15.39 | roberth1990 | rdieter: everything it seems |
| 01:15.51 | rdieter | please be specific, use paste.kde.org if you have to |
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| 01:16.15 | rdieter | first step, use kdebugdialog (and possibly kdebugdialog5 if using plasma5) to disable all debug out |
| 01:16.20 | rdieter | debug output, tha tis |
| 01:16.25 | rdieter | that is, ugh |
| 01:18.15 | roberth1990 | looks like I need to log out and in |
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| 01:20.17 | roberth1990 | rdieter: http://paste.debian.net/plain/179968 that is what comes when disabling all debugging |
| 01:23.39 | rdieter | roberth1990: ok, the QDBus ones require patching Qt |
| 01:23.49 | rdieter | (I'd suggest poking your distro) |
| 01:24.34 | rdieter | the KMimetype ones are a known bug too, and patchable (the warning is mostly harmless) |
| 01:24.53 | rdieter | not sure about the kbuildsycoca stuff |
| 01:25.28 | roberth1990 | meh... |
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| 01:25.44 | rdieter | the KMimetype issue, https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=343468 |
| 01:26.44 | rdieter | and patch fedora uses, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/kdelibs.git/tree/kdelibs-4.14.4-unknown_mimetype_spam.patch |
| 01:27.10 | roberth1990 | okay, but the workaround posted works for me |
| 01:27.22 | roberth1990 | the patch will probably never get merged |
| 01:27.26 | roberth1990 | anyway |
| 01:27.56 | rdieter | it could, I'd argue it should |
| 01:28.10 | rdieter | for Qt, http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/cgit/qt.git/tree/qt-everywhere-opensource-src-4.8.3-qdbusconnection_no_debug.patch |
| 01:28.29 | rdieter | both basically turns runtime warnings it's disable-able debug statements instead |
| 01:29.31 | roberth1990 | well they didn't even merge the fix for a dependency to a package even... |
| 01:30.02 | roberth1990 | anyway |
| 01:31.19 | roberth1990 | when using kwrite, and enabling vi input mode, typing : why wont the standard vim commands work, like wq to write to file and quit to file and q! for quit without writing? |
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| 01:45.04 | James0r | command to reload the plasma panel? |
| 01:49.48 | vovochka | killall plasma-desktop, then plasma-desktop :-D |
| 01:50.38 | vovochka | U can do this in krunner (alt+f2) |
| 01:50.47 | James0r | ahh i used plasmashell and that did the job. generally safe? |
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| 01:54.59 | jerichowasahoax | James0r: Since plasma-desktop only handles the actual "desktop" portion of the environment (your wallpaper, panels, and possible desktop plasmoids), and not things like window management, restarting it via `killall plasma-desktop && plasma-desktop` shouldn't cause any harm |
| 01:55.17 | jerichowasahoax | James0r: or plasmashell if you're running Plasma 5 |
| 02:01.13 | roberth1990 | plasma has been split into even more processes? great :D |
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| 02:02.19 | jerichowasahoax | it's been laid out like this since kde 4 |
| 02:02.25 | jerichowasahoax | this is not new |
| 02:03.37 | jerichowasahoax | hell, KDE 3 even had the panel in a process all its own |
| 02:04.02 | roberth1990 | there some threads called plasma-desktop |
| 02:04.15 | jerichowasahoax | threads != processes |
| 02:04.23 | roberth1990 | *processes |
| 02:05.00 | jerichowasahoax | i've only got the one plasma-desktop instance on both of my KDE 4 systems |
| 02:05.21 | roberth1990 | isnt it another way to make programs scale on multicore systems rather than making the program use more threads? |
| 02:05.32 | roberth1990 | I got three |
| 02:05.48 | jerichowasahoax | well unless you have multiple KDE sessions open, that's a problem |
| 02:06.33 | roberth1990 | they appear under one process when I use for example system monitor in tree mode |
| 02:06.49 | jerichowasahoax | what are you using to get a process list |
| 02:07.02 | roberth1990 | htop |
| 02:07.22 | jerichowasahoax | htop is probably showing threads instead of processes |
| 02:07.40 | roberth1990 | ah |
| 02:08.15 | roberth1990 | well it is the same for me practically speaking, I was just studying it to if programs could scale on multicore systesm |
| 02:08.18 | roberth1990 | *systems |
| 02:08.29 | jerichowasahoax | no, it's not the same |
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| 02:08.41 | roberth1990 | what is the difference? |
| 02:08.43 | jerichowasahoax | a different process is a completely different process, unrelated to the first |
| 02:08.48 | captainfantastic | What is this blue line? Can I disable it? |
| 02:08.49 | captainfantastic | http://imgur.com/LgyMyK7 |
| 02:09.15 | jerichowasahoax | if you have two different processes of "/usr/bin/firefox" for example, they're two completely separate instances of that process, unrelated to each other |
| 02:09.30 | roberth1990 | jerichowasahoax: but the program divides tasks to each process? |
| 02:09.40 | jerichowasahoax | multiple threads however, can belong to one process |
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| 02:09.54 | jerichowasahoax | roberth1990: not in the way you're thinking of |
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| 02:11.06 | roberth1990 | jerichowasahoax: well both are a kind of multicore scaling, a program using multiple processes which each has one thread are still utilizing the multiple cores better than a program that just has one process with one thread |
| 02:11.58 | jerichowasahoax | roberth1990: you can't just arbitrarily designate function a to process 1 and function b to process 2 |
| 02:12.16 | jerichowasahoax | roberth1990: not without writing two completely separate executables that ONLY do functions a and b respectively |
| 02:12.38 | roberth1990 | jerichowasahoax: yeah I understand that |
| 02:12.59 | jerichowasahoax | this multicore example you're giving me makes no sense then |
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| 02:13.46 | jerichowasahoax | chrom{e,ium} for instance is a multiprocess program, and it doesn't do that for multicore reasons |
| 02:15.34 | roberth1990 | how does the multiprocess then increase performance? |
| 02:16.20 | jerichowasahoax | it doesn't really |
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| 02:17.24 | jerichowasahoax | to use my earlier example again, chromium puts each tab and extension in its own process to prevent a failure in one from taking down the entire browser |
| 02:17.34 | roberth1990 | now you are not making any sense |
| 02:17.51 | jerichowasahoax | how am i the one that's not making sense |
| 02:18.56 | sour12 | Hello everyone ! I am new to KDE and I am trying to fix some bugs on junior jobs. What is the standard procedure ? Should I have to go through the code base of product ? |
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| 03:01.34 | boombatower | just updated to kde5 and the lock screen refuses to unlock when presented with correct password |
| 03:01.42 | boombatower | can kill x and re-login, but nothing else |
| 03:01.46 | boombatower | thoughts? |
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| 03:08.04 | boombatower | mouse cursor on desktop (background area) is different than on applications |
| 03:08.04 | roberth1990 | boombatower: report the bug and dont use password lock on the lockscreen for now |
| 03:08.28 | boombatower | roberth1990: yea, have a small laundry list..hmm |
| 03:08.45 | roberth1990 | boombatower: report everything i separate bugs |
| 03:08.49 | roberth1990 | *in |
| 03:08.54 | boombatower | of course |
| 03:09.28 | roberth1990 | boombatower: what version are you on? |
| 03:10.56 | boombatower | Frameworks Version 5.10.0 |
| 03:11.18 | boombatower | lots of little stuff |
| 03:11.32 | boombatower | and then the lock screen which kinda sucks |
| 03:12.56 | roberth1990 | boombatower: plasma? |
| 03:14.12 | boombatower | roberth1990: 5.3.0 |
| 03:14.17 | roberth1990 | okay |
| 03:14.21 | roberth1990 | well report the bugs |
| 03:14.36 | roberth1990 | the lockscreen problem I would say is critical |
| 03:14.58 | boombatower | yea and login on 4.x took 1-2 seconds. it now takes >10s |
| 03:15.06 | boombatower | some fun stuff ;) |
| 03:15.12 | roberth1990 | its a security issue in a sense that people have to turn it off ot work around it unless someone has found another workaround |
| 03:15.18 | boombatower | yea |
| 03:15.27 | roberth1990 | yeah kde5 had serious performance issues last time I tested it |
| 03:15.29 | boombatower | wish I had more information though since it works on a different machine |
| 03:15.54 | boombatower | so obviously not totally broken |
| 03:15.57 | roberth1990 | what distro are you using on the problematic machine? |
| 03:16.01 | boombatower | is there some sor tof config to take a look at |
| 03:16.08 | boombatower | roberth1990: opensuse on both |
| 03:16.20 | roberth1990 | and both are up to date? |
| 03:16.25 | boombatower | roberth1990: yes |
| 03:16.35 | boombatower | same versions and setup |
| 03:16.38 | roberth1990 | odd |
| 03:16.43 | roberth1990 | same password? |
| 03:16.44 | boombatower | only difference is one was updated from 4.x |
| 03:16.52 | boombatower | and other was fresh install to test 5.x from get go |
| 03:16.52 | roberth1990 | which one? |
| 03:16.59 | boombatower | the one that doesn't work is update |
| 03:17.03 | boombatower | which is why I figure it is config somewhere |
| 03:17.08 | boombatower | but not sure where to look for something liek that |
| 03:17.10 | roberth1990 | ahh |
| 03:17.15 | bshah | did you restart after upgrade? |
| 03:17.19 | boombatower | many times |
| 03:17.37 | bshah | can you post xsession errors file for affected machine? |
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| 03:20.07 | boombatower | lol paste.kde.org and paste.opensuse.org both won't let me post |
| 03:20.11 | boombatower | oh man today |
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| 03:20.15 | bshah | this is very specific problem that is hit by another developer if I remember correctly.. (Sho_) who is not in channel at moment.. |
| 03:20.35 | boombatower | http://pastebin.com/aZud3uXV |
| 03:20.55 | boombatower | bshah: assume that's the right log? |
| 03:21.18 | boombatower | not sure if that log contains lock error |
| 03:21.20 | boombatower | suppose I can trigger |
| 03:21.26 | boombatower | copy file in tty |
| 03:21.29 | boombatower | and restart x |
| 03:22.37 | bshah | yes; its right log.. |
| 03:22.45 | bshah | but its too long for this session.. ;) |
| 03:22.54 | boombatower | ok so nuke it |
| 03:22.56 | bshah | can you re-login.. trigger problem and give file |
| 03:22.58 | bshah | ? |
| 03:22.59 | boombatower | sure |
| 03:23.41 | bshah | thats why paste.ko and paste.oo didn't allow you to post this |
| 03:23.51 | bshah | (its too big :p) |
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| 03:25.31 | boombatower | bshah: hmm, cleared file and triggered error, cp'd file on tty and restarted x...unforutnately nothing was printed to log |
| 03:25.38 | boombatower | on relogin it's full of all that stuff again |
| 03:25.49 | boombatower | some of which I will investigate as it looks like other interesting things |
| 03:25.56 | boombatower | but nothing pertaining to lock screen |
| 03:26.09 | bshah | it will get created every session |
| 03:26.23 | boombatower | bshah: sure which is why i copied while lock screen was up |
| 03:26.29 | boombatower | after emptying file |
| 03:26.46 | boombatower | ie empty file, lock screen, attempt to unlock, copy file, restart x |
| 03:26.53 | bshah | still can you give me that cp'd file? |
| 03:26.56 | boombatower | nothing written to file |
| 03:27.00 | bshah | :O |
| 03:27.27 | boombatower | is there any config i should look at? |
| 03:27.36 | boombatower | something that might be amis? |
| 03:28.45 | bshah | can you locate lib64/kde5/libexec/kcheckpass on your system? |
| 03:28.47 | boombatower | I assume it is unrelated, but lock screen settings has random white box http://i.imgur.com/ALZdPdQ.png |
| 03:28.58 | boombatower | ok |
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| 03:29.43 | bshah | that whitebox is unrelated |
| 03:30.51 | bshah | for me its /usr/lib/kcheckpass |
| 03:30.56 | Dattorz | Isn't that box where you're meant to select a lock screen design? |
| 03:31.26 | boombatower | probably, which makes me wonder why it doesn't work...if something isn't present |
| 03:32.22 | bshah | boombatower: also ls -l /etc/pam.d/ |
| 03:32.27 | boombatower | bshah: hmm, i have /usr/lib64/kde4/libexec/, but /usr/lib64/krb5/plugins/ has 4 directories and single file |
| 03:32.52 | bshah | is it kde4 or plasma5? |
| 03:32.59 | bshah | basically https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=333251 |
| 03:33.01 | boombatower | kde5, but again I updated this machine |
| 03:33.12 | boombatower | so wondering if something is off |
| 03:33.17 | boombatower | https://paste.kde.org/pcwbcnqlu/dnhxpc/raw |
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| 03:36.05 | bshah | boombatower: see linked bug report |
| 03:36.11 | bshah | ^^^ |
| 03:36.36 | boombatower | yea |
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| 03:37.20 | boombatower | bshah: /usr/lib64/libexec/kcheckpass |
| 03:37.41 | boombatower | i'll keep reading bug |
| 03:37.49 | bshah | whats permission for that file? (kcheckpass) |
| 03:38.02 | bshah | ls -l /usr/lib64/libexec/kcheckpass |
| 03:38.09 | boombatower | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18968 May 11 17:15 kcheckpass |
| 03:38.45 | bshah | permissions sounds sane |
| 03:38.53 | boombatower | anyway to check if that's where it is looking? |
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| 03:41.23 | bshah | so first thing you should be verifying is kcheckpass working or not? for that run kcheckpass and provide password |
| 03:42.32 | boombatower | Permissions on the password database may be too restrictive. |
| 03:42.33 | boombatower | oo |
| 03:42.41 | bshah | no.. |
| 03:43.04 | bshah | if kcheckpass fails no wonder screenlocker will fail |
| 03:43.10 | boombatower | sure |
| 03:44.39 | bshah | I suspect that your packages maybe too old or something as packager Hrvoje Senjan mentions it is fixed in upstream packages |
| 03:44.57 | boombatower | bshah: i'm running tumbleweed and it updated yesterday |
| 03:45.02 | boombatower | so perhaps |
| 03:45.03 | boombatower | but |
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| 03:45.51 | bshah | but this is less likely to happen as bug report is from last year anyway.. :D |
| 03:46.13 | boombatower | bshah: so fix is to change perms on /etc/shadow? |
| 03:46.14 | boombatower | or what |
| 03:46.23 | bshah | no.. |
| 03:46.32 | bshah | can you run kcheckpass? |
| 03:46.36 | boombatower | yea |
| 03:46.41 | boombatower | i got the message i pasted |
| 03:46.52 | bshah | right.. |
| 03:47.05 | bshah | which means pam is not working or something around that |
| 03:48.05 | bshah | do you have xdm installed? |
| 03:48.15 | boombatower | bshah: yes |
| 03:49.42 | bshah | should be working.. :S |
| 03:49.53 | bshah | report to #opensuse-kde I'd say |
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| 04:16.22 | boombatower | a bunch of tray icons also stopped showing up, like skype |
| 04:16.24 | boombatower | hmm |
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| 04:25.50 | BlaXpirit | people say this every day |
| 04:26.03 | BlaXpirit | 1. how to disable baloo |
| 04:26.07 | BlaXpirit | 2. how to get tray icons |
| 04:26.52 | BlaXpirit | answer is... *drumroll* google |
| 04:27.49 | boombatower | don't even |
| 04:28.12 | boombatower | the number of things I've had to debug in kde 5 (now a year after read to explore release) |
| 04:28.13 | boombatower | don't evne |
| 04:28.16 | boombatower | this is 4.x all over |
| 04:28.30 | boombatower | and already googled |
| 04:28.39 | boombatower | nothing immediately obvious |
| 04:28.58 | BlaXpirit | i tried kde 5 on my 2 computers, got rid of it everywhere by now |
| 04:29.12 | rdieter | boombatower: ask your distro about something called: sni-qt |
| 04:29.17 | BlaXpirit | http://blog.martin-graesslin.com/blog/2014/06/where-are-my-systray-icons/ |
| 04:29.49 | rdieter | boombatower: (important: it needs to be the same arch as skype) |
| 04:30.03 | rdieter | in case you're running 32bit skype on 64bit linux |
| 04:31.53 | boombatower | rdieter: BlaXpirit: thx, just tired of this. based on all the blog posts they'd lead you to believe this was decent |
| 04:32.07 | boombatower | some of this stuff is like..huh? I write code...I wouldn't commit it in the state |
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| 04:32.39 | boombatower | pick background color or image...first time it is always not what you picked |
| 04:32.45 | boombatower | 12 secodns to switch between background type |
| 04:33.00 | rdieter | what distro? |
| 04:33.02 | boombatower | I need to collate a list and check for bugs |
| 04:33.10 | boombatower | opensuse |
| 04:33.13 | rdieter | sounds like they have some kinks to work out |
| 04:33.13 | boombatower | tumbleweed |
| 04:33.20 | N3X15 | boombatower, are you having issues getting colors to apply? |
| 04:33.32 | boombatower | they do after you click apply twice |
| 04:33.56 | N3X15 | Doing better than I am https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=346481 |
| 04:33.58 | rdieter | plasma (5.3) is working fairly well for me (fedora), but polishing the integration and packaging took some time |
| 04:34.24 | N3X15 | Thinking about duping my VM and trying a ppa build of plasma. |
| 04:34.33 | BlaXpirit | i still pretty much can't switch to it |
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| 04:35.06 | boombatower | unforntunately i believed the hype and switch on primary desktop |
| 04:35.10 | boombatower | going back could be more fun |
| 04:35.13 | BlaXpirit | plasmoid that makes up 80% of my workflow has lost 80% of its features |
| 04:35.23 | boombatower | yea missing pastebin plasmoid |
| 04:35.23 | BlaXpirit | icons-only task manager is a toy now |
| 04:35.24 | boombatower | i need that |
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| 04:35.54 | boombatower | getting weird switch between breeze icons on oxygen |
| 04:37.09 | N3X15 | I can't really blame anyone other than Kubuntu's maintainers for marking KDE 5 as stable though. |
| 04:37.35 | boombatower | i mean at least it doesn't seem to crash like 4.x did |
| 04:37.39 | boombatower | click the wrong button and BOOM |
| 04:37.40 | N3X15 | I mean, yeah, it doesn't crash, but there's lots and lots of rough edges. |
| 04:37.42 | boombatower | but there is some much stuff |
| 04:37.50 | boombatower | so much* |
| 04:38.10 | BlaXpirit | lol at least you don't *have* to switch to new kubuntu |
| 04:38.21 | boombatower | :) |
| 04:38.25 | BlaXpirit | arch just pushed it up our throats unexpectedly |
| 04:39.02 | N3X15 | Not like I can roll it back, though. |
| 04:39.24 | boombatower | same problem I ahe |
| 04:39.37 | boombatower | so is there a way to change position on screen of notifcaitons? |
| 04:39.44 | boombatower | used to just drag when one appeared and they come back there |
| 04:39.48 | boombatower | doesn't seem that's the case |
| 04:56.04 | boombatower | I appologize for being whiny. hopefully I can help get everything fixed up |
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| 06:09.23 | vovochka | It's hardcoded in baloorc cfg file.And why kcm for baloo doesn't allow to change this :( |
| 06:11.52 | vovochka | To be exactly: it's In baloofilerc |
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| 07:42.23 | Josef_Filzmaier | Hey there! I like the new touchpad KCM and while it has tons of features, i am still missing one: Is there a way to say that the touchpad should be disabled on startup? |
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| 08:26.27 | Judge | Hi everyone. I'm using Plasma5 with Arch Linux and SDDM as display manager. I want to set everything to my local language, which is german. I set my global LANG var to "de_DE.UTF-8" and LANGUAGE to "de_DE.UTF-8:de_DE:en_US". Parts of my Plasma Desktop is still English; for example the Tabs in KMenu, which still say "Applications" instead of "Programme" |
| 08:26.53 | Judge | Also, some of my Applications are left in English. I have installed the kde-l10n-de language. |
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| 08:28.11 | Judge | When I look at the variables which are set in an X Term, they look different from my global settings: LANG is set to "de_DE.US-ACSII" and LANGUAGE to "de" . What am I doing wrong? |
| 08:30.08 | Jucato | Judge: just to double check, you've also set the proper translations in System Settings? (also, there might be some kde4 apps not following plasma 5 settings so you might want to check with the program "kcmshell4 language" (run it in Krunner or konsole)). other than that, sorry i have very little experience with translations |
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| 08:44.16 | Judge | Sorry, had to test a setting , but it didn't help ... |
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| 08:46.10 | Judge | Jucato: I'l test your suggestion now. BRB |
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| 08:51.44 | Judge | re |
| 08:52.41 | Judge | Jucato: Deutsch was not set as prefered language in regional settings, but seting it did not change much. Thanks for that input anyways. |
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| 08:55.38 | Jucato | Judge: in which was it not set? "kcmshell4 language" will only change it for KDE4 apps. for those using KF5/Plasma 5, you'd have to change it in System Settings (direct command: "kcmshell5 translations") |
| 08:55.48 | Jucato | sorry if that doesn't work either |
| 08:56.07 | Jucato | not sure if there's a #kde-de |
| 08:57.30 | Judge | Jucato: There is, but it hosts 10 idle people only ... so not worth considering. |
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| 08:58.55 | freeroute | I think I have a vague question, but I'm not sure how I could be precise: What is the move process like in Dolphin? Would you call it robust? |
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| 08:59.42 | freeroute | I'm mounting a ZFS volume with sshfs on my Ubuntu box and wanted to navigate the file structure with Dolphin. |
| 09:00.08 | freeroute | there I wanted to make some changes and move around files, but I'm really not looking for partial moves etc. |
| 09:01.26 | freeroute | I am using: Dolphin 2.0 with KDE Development Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) |
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| 09:02.36 | Jucato | freeroute: can't really say as I don't know the innards of KIO (the framework used for file transactions). but if you are more comfortable using commands for copy but want to browser via dolphin, there might be a compromise. use dolphin to browse, then when you're in the directory you want, hit F4 to show the embedded terminal in that directory |
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| 09:06.26 | freeroute | Jucato: hmm, for some reason that doesn't work here. On the console it says dolphin(13074)/kdecore (KLibrary) findLibraryInternal: plugins should not have a 'lib' prefix: "libkonsolepart.so" |
| 09:06.55 | freeroute | must be because I have an older Dolphin I'm sure |
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| 09:07.34 | Jucato | or you're missing some packages |
| 09:07.58 | vHanda | vovochka: We're bringing the extra baloo kcm options back in Plasma 5.4 (August) |
| 09:09.05 | Jucato | (yay!) |
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| 09:12.34 | Jucato | vHanda: quick question with a hopefully quick answer. how does baloo handle removable media? as in, i want it to be able to index a 2TB external hard drive i have, for the sake of being able to search it, but i'm wondering if it will retain that index even after i unplug the drive. same for MicroSD cards btw (which i actually have always inserted) |
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| 09:14.01 | Jucato | hm ... i see some excluded folders baloofilerc but the list in the kcm is empty ... |
| 09:14.07 | vHanda | The index is stored in ~/.local/share/baloo for your normal files and the files on removable media. So, you can just configure it to index it via the kcm, and it will do it. But we do not have any code to check for udpates after you unplug and plug it agian |
| 09:14.23 | Jucato | ah |
| 09:14.47 | vHanda | we used to get bugs during the nepomuk days of too high disk io after you plugged in a hard-disk, so it was disabled. |
| 09:15.04 | vHanda | I'm not quite sure what the correct approach should be. |
| 09:15.10 | Jucato | when does it update the removable media then? only when something in the media changes while it's plugged in? |
| 09:15.15 | vHanda | yes |
| 09:15.20 | vHanda | you can trigger it manually |
| 09:15.31 | Jucato | yeah it's a bit of a puzzle whenever i think about it. which is why i don't ask much about it. but i'd really like that :) |
| 09:15.38 | vHanda | $ qdbus org.kde.baloo /indexer updateAllFolders false |
| 09:15.54 | Jucato | (want to check if I already have a file stored without having to attach the drive) |
| 09:15.54 | vHanda | ^ this will do a full check across all the files that should be indexed |
| 09:16.00 | Jucato | thanks |
| 09:16.05 | vHanda | oh |
| 09:16.17 | vHanda | that's a strange thing to handle, searching for files which do not exist anymore. |
| 09:16.32 | Jucato | yeah i guess my use case is strange :) |
| 09:16.34 | vHanda | we don't know if we just missed the delete notification or if it is an external hard-drive |
| 09:17.07 | vHanda | we used to just cleanup the indexes which pointed to files which do not exist, but with removable media .. |
| 09:17.32 | Jucato | i mean, the file exists in the external drive. just that the drive isn't attached at the moment. but i'd still like to see if i have that file/video/song |
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| 09:18.24 | vHanda | I understand. |
| 09:18.31 | vHanda | It just means special handling in the case of removable media. |
| 09:18.51 | vHanda | I've always wanted to store the baloo index for the removable media inside the removable media |
| 09:18.57 | vHanda | but that would totally break your use case |
| 09:19.04 | Jucato | yeah :) |
| 09:19.12 | Jucato | but hey, i'm just one user ;) |
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| 09:19.31 | vHanda | meh. We theoretically should be flexible enough. |
| 09:19.55 | vHanda | it's not an absurd use case. |
| 09:20.06 | Jucato | i was afraid it was |
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| 09:20.29 | Jucato | anyway thanks for all the hard work on baloo :) |
| 09:20.48 | vHanda | Thanks :) |
| 09:21.26 | Jucato | <--- here's at least one guy who actually likes all the search and indexing. when/if it works. just don't ask about nepomuk :P |
| 09:22.36 | Jucato | (i actually use the search function a lot on Windows 8. why? because it's effing hard to find anything there through navigation :P) |
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| 13:02.00 | shevy | https://dot.kde.org/2015/05/12/may-update-kde-applications-1504 |
| 13:02.03 | shevy | is this for qt 4 or qt 5? |
| 13:02.25 | shevy | hmm kde 4 and qt 4 I assume |
| 13:02.28 | shevy | "This release also includes Long Term Support versions of Plasma Workspaces 4.11.19, KDE Development Platform 4.14.8 and the Kontact Suite 4.14.8." |
| 13:02.37 | shevy | I am a bit confused because the version numbers seem so high suddenly |
| 13:02.50 | shevy | I got the old kde konsole from here: |
| 13:02.52 | shevy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.16 | shevy | but the new one is suddenly this here: |
| 13:03.18 | shevy | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.29 | shevy | so I am utterly confused... from 4.14.3 to 15.04.1 ? |
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| 13:05.21 | Jucato | if i got it right, 15.04 is for applications based on KDE Frameworks 5. it's the 4.14.x that's still "KDE 4" |
| 13:06.17 | Jucato | might be wrong |
| 13:06.23 | shevy | aaaah |
| 13:06.27 | shevy | that makes sense |
| 13:06.40 | shevy | well sort of |
| 13:06.59 | Jucato | only make sense if i'm right. and i might not be :) |
| 13:07.01 | shevy | I'll stick to kde 4 then, thanks Jucato |
| 13:07.06 | shevy | nah you are right, I am sure |
| 13:07.34 | Jucato | might just be a switch in version naming. as in like ubuntu. 15.04 is "2015 April" |
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| 13:08.09 | shevy | madubuntu |
| 13:08.27 | shevy | well, 2015 april is easier to identify when it was released haha |
| 13:08.46 | Jucato | in any case, the konsole you linked to is from march. http://download.kde.org/stable/applications/15.04.0/src/ now shows konsole as 15.04 and it hasn't been ported to KF5 as far as I know |
| 13:09.51 | shevy | damn, I am outdated |
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| 13:10.22 | shevy | I still remember kde3 downloads! |
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| 13:14.21 | tosky | Jucato, shevy: KDE Applications 15.04 contains both kdelibs4 and KF5-based applications |
| 13:14.33 | tosky | as it happened with 14.12, and it will be the same at least with 15.08 |
| 13:15.14 | Jucato | thought so. kinda lost track of apps numbering and only minded kf5/p5 :) |
| 13:15.29 | tosky | apps numbering is year.month based |
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| 13:16.26 | ntz | hello |
| 13:16.37 | ntz | I have rather theoretical question: |
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| 13:17.53 | ntz | is a known issue, that MS imaps (owa) sucks with the KDE ? I know this problem for years. I was never able to make a kaddressbook working in kde as well outgoing provider |
| 13:18.06 | ntz | only what works is calendar and mailbox |
| 13:19.47 | Jucato | thanks tosky |
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| 13:20.06 | Jucato | ntz: #kontact people might have an idea |
| 13:21.25 | dhardy | Question: *should* kde5/plasma5 be fully usable as of 5.3.0? I have many issues with it... |
| 13:23.27 | dhardy | Sorry, hi channel |
| 13:23.32 | otjura | porting of applications is not yet complete so no |
| 13:23.46 | otjura | some are on kf5, some are not |
| 13:23.51 | ntz | Jucato: last question (now trying kde utils after some time) .... how do I access a calendar application ? I only have a plasma widget in the system tray |
| 13:23.51 | dhardy | ah.. i mostly have issues with plasma and kwin |
| 13:24.21 | ntz | Jucato: gotcha ... it's "korganizer" |
| 13:24.22 | Jucato | ntz: the program's name is "korganizer" |
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| 13:25.06 | dhardy | i maen, is it normal that when maximising a window, kwin ignores the plasma taskbar? |
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| 13:25.34 | mgraesslin | dhardy: define ignore? |
| 13:26.01 | dhardy | Maximising a window makes it will the screen (still with title bar but hiding the task bar) |
| 13:26.08 | dhardy | *fill* not will |
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| 13:26.34 | Jucato | the plasma panel has a setting that can make windows go over, or under it |
| 13:26.47 | dhardy | i know that; changing it doesn't help |
| 13:27.01 | ntz | Jucato: hmm .... it's all stupid ... in the settings->general->calendars(tab)->add(button) ani't even posibility to add a ldap/owa/imaps MS calendar :( |
| 13:27.11 | mgraesslin | dhardy: no, that's not intended, works here ;-) |
| 13:27.42 | Jucato | dhardy: works normal here |
| 13:27.46 | dhardy | hasn't worked since i started using dvratil's fedora repos, and still doesn't work with official packages |
| 13:27.54 | dhardy | (though i dont know if i screwed up the packages) |
| 13:28.30 | mgraesslin | possible, but unlikely |
| 13:28.37 | dhardy | hmm, lets try with a fresh user instead of my old .kde dir |
| 13:28.38 | Jucato | has been using dvratil's repos since they existed. no problems like that |
| 13:28.41 | dhardy | thanks |
| 13:28.45 | mgraesslin | dhardy: please provide output of qdbus org.kde.KWin /KWin supportInformation |
| 13:28.58 | mgraesslin | dhardy: also please do xprop the plasma panel |
| 13:28.59 | dhardy | but another question: what's happening with regards to touchscreen? |
| 13:29.00 | Jucato | ntz: best ask the kontact guys then. i'm not up to date with any developments |
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| 13:29.12 | Jucato | coughs |
| 13:30.03 | dhardy | mgraesslin: there's a lot of output; want it via email? |
| 13:30.15 | mgraesslin | dhardy: no, just put it on paste.kde.org |
| 13:30.35 | dhardy | yeah sorry |
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| 13:31.56 | dhardy | https://paste.kde.org/pvtuqojir |
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| 13:33.05 | dhardy | https://paste.kde.org/ptmna4ijh |
| 13:33.39 | mgraesslin | _NET_WM_STATE(ATOM) = _NET_WM_STATE_BELOW |
| 13:33.45 | mgraesslin | checks the meaning |
| 13:34.14 | dhardy | ah, yes, had windows to cover |
| 13:34.22 | dhardy | if i set it to always visible, windows "hide" behind it |
| 13:34.43 | mgraesslin | dhardy: please set to always visible and then restart plasmashell |
| 13:34.49 | dhardy | okay |
| 13:35.28 | dhardy | yep, maximised windows still fill screen area, hiding partially behind the panel |
| 13:35.50 | mgraesslin | the window doesn't have struts set |
| 13:35.53 | mgraesslin | that's weird |
| 13:36.23 | Jucato | maybe some residual window rule from kde4? |
| 13:36.36 | mgraesslin | dhardy: do you have the panel on the right edge? |
| 13:37.03 | dhardy | yes |
| 13:37.12 | mgraesslin | hysterical laughter |
| 13:37.19 | mgraesslin | dhardy: please try any other edge |
| 13:37.54 | dhardy | i tell a lie, if i move it to the left the window does move... but not very much |
| 13:38.06 | dhardy | as if the panel were something like a 1/4 its size |
| 13:38.19 | dhardy | or 1/2 |
| 13:38.45 | dhardy | i have a high dpi screen so the panel is larger than might be expected |
| 13:39.21 | mgraesslin | ok, but the windows move |
| 13:39.26 | dhardy | yep |
| 13:39.30 | mgraesslin | I have a fair idea of the problem |
| 13:39.37 | mgraesslin | QRect::right() |
| 13:39.55 | dhardy | qrects store sizes in pixels, right? |
| 13:40.00 | mgraesslin | "Note that for historical reasons this function returns left() + width() - 1; use x() + width() to retrieve the true x-coordinate." |
| 13:40.19 | mgraesslin | so the strut is not set correctly if it's on the right edge |
| 13:40.27 | mgraesslin | dhardy: please report a bug report about it |
| 13:40.43 | dhardy | the window sizing is still wrong when the panel is on another edge though |
| 13:40.53 | dhardy | off-by-1-pixel wouldn't even be visible on my screen |
| 13:41.30 | mgraesslin | dhardy: nah it's not off-by-1 - it's not setting the hint at all |
| 13:41.42 | dhardy | where should i report? |
| 13:41.43 | dhardy | package? |
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| 13:42.30 | mgraesslin | dhardy: plasmashell |
| 13:42.46 | dhardy | and btw the window sizing is still wrong when the panel is on another screen edge |
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| 13:44.12 | mgraesslin | dhardy: that might be a different problem concerning high dpi |
| 13:44.24 | mgraesslin | d_ed might know more about it |
| 13:44.30 | dhardy | wundervoll... wrong on two counts |
| 13:44.37 | dhardy | okay, cheers for the help |
| 13:44.41 | mgraesslin | well high dpi is kind of new ;-) |
| 13:44.53 | dhardy | worked almost perfectly in kde4 ;-) |
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| 13:45.11 | dhardy | well, minus a few icons |
| 13:45.15 | mgraesslin | really? I only got complaints about it not working |
| 13:45.42 | dhardy | qt and kde are so configurable... set high font sizes, high icon sizes, adjust scrollbar widths... |
| 13:45.54 | dhardy | it's not perfect and it's not automatic but it's workable |
| 13:46.21 | dhardy | some of the qt decorations like collapsible tree list markers are too small |
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| 13:48.44 | d_ed | mgraesslin: I might know what? |
| 13:48.58 | Jucato | the adjustable scrollbar width is the only thing that's gone. icons and fonts i can still set |
| 13:49.04 | mgraesslin | d_ed: whether there are problems on high dpi with panels - like incorrect maximize area |
| 13:50.37 | d_ed | with QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO=2 set or just generally? |
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| 13:50.40 | dhardy | ... |
| 13:50.40 | Jucato | fwiw, mine maximize just fine if the panel is either on the left or right. though dont know if 2160x1440 is hdpi |
| 13:50.41 | dhardy | hi btw |
| 13:50.57 | dhardy | yes |
| 13:51.07 | dhardy | dhardy@yoga:~$ env|grep QT |
| 13:51.07 | dhardy | QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO=2 |
| 13:51.07 | dhardy | QTDIR=/usr/lib64/qt-3.3 |
| 13:51.10 | dhardy | QTINC=/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/include |
| 13:51.12 | dhardy | QT_GRAPHICSSYSTEM_CHECKED=1 |
| 13:51.13 | dhardy | QT_IM_MODULE=compose |
| 13:51.13 | dhardy | QTLIB=/usr/lib64/qt-3.3/lib |
| 13:51.20 | dhardy | QT_PLUGIN_PATH=/usr/lib64/qt5/plugins |
| 13:51.51 | dhardy | i'm not bothered by the scroll bar width anyway.. |
| 13:51.52 | Jucato | dhardy: pls do use a pastebin when pasting multiple lines like that |
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| 13:59.46 | d_ed | dhardy: ah, yeah. There are still problems. I tend to run plasmashell with that var unset |
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| 14:09.43 | Hairo | any solution to plasma-desktop crashing when logging out/shutting down/rebooting ? |
| 14:09.44 | Hairo | oh, i'm running plasma 5.3 in majaro |
| 14:09.58 | Hairo | had this problem in kubuntu 15.04 too |
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| 14:10.17 | dhardy | mgraesslin: when the panel is on the bottom screen edge, I think the strut is set correctly |
| 14:10.17 | dhardy | _NET_WM_STRUT(CARDINAL) = 0, 0, 0, 30 |
| 14:10.18 | leszek | Hairo: If you eager to test can you try out Netrunner 16. I think we fixed the issue there. And if it is fixed there then it should land in Plasma 5.4 |
| 14:10.18 | dhardy | 30 pixels looks about right (according to kruler) |
| 14:10.21 | mgraesslin | yeah that sounds about right |
| 14:10.28 | dhardy | windows still hide behind or cover it |
| 14:10.29 | d_ed | if you have QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO when you run kruler, your 30px will actually be 60 |
| 14:10.33 | d_ed | assuming kruler is Qt5 |
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| 14:10.41 | dhardy | i wondered |
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| 14:10.44 | mgraesslin | maybe take a ruler and do the math :-P |
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| 14:10.48 | dhardy | 5 / 165 * 1800 |
| 14:10.48 | dhardy | 155 |
| 14:10.48 | dhardy | no, 55 |
| 14:10.48 | dhardy | if i type correctly ;) |
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| 14:25.57 | dhardy | damn, normally not being able to see the pixels is a bonus! |
| 14:25.58 | Hairo | leszek: so, it's a kde issue... guess i'll wait for plasma 5.4, using the shutdown command seems to work fine. |
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| 14:26.08 | dhardy | For anyone's interest, the above issue (right screen edge): https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=347949 |
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| 14:26.11 | Jucato | try to also check the QT_DEVICE_PIXEL_RATIO thing. i don't have that set (fedora),and everything seems to work fine. (struts are set no matter the edge) |
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| 14:26.23 | freeroute | can anyone please explain why I can not move 2 files from one destination to another without a permission denied error? rsyncing works like a charm. |
| 14:26.23 | freeroute | I'm using dolphin. |
| 14:26.23 | freeroute | 2.0, Using KDE Development Platform 4.8.5 (4.8.5) |
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| 14:31.18 | vladoski | is KDE lighter than Windows 7? |
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| 14:46.03 | rdieter | vladoski: probably, though "lighter" by what measure? how do you define "lighter"? |
| 14:46.30 | BluesKaj | bbiab |
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| 14:50.52 | SysGhost | vladoski: KDE is a lot more modular, so it can be made a lot more lighter. |
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| 14:51.24 | SysGhost | ...but it can also be "heavier". but then again, so can Windows also be. |
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| 17:52.44 | shevy | in the past I think it was bundled into kdelibs or kdebase, at least in kde3 era |
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| 20:09.37 | Aziroshin | Hello. :o |
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| 20:10.47 | Aziroshin | I have KDE version 4.14.1 on Ubuntu 14.10. So far, I've been running a fluxbox based desktop, and for screen capturing, I used a similar fluxbox setup in a second xserver (on its own $DISPLAY). |
| 20:12.08 | Aziroshin | Right now, I am attempting to transition this setup to KDE. That also means that this second xserver, which is started with a chain of shell scripts, would need to run duplicates of kwin and plasma-desktop, preferably with $HOME set to something other than the actual HOME directory. |
| 20:12.26 | Aziroshin | However, it seems that plasma-desktop refuses to run more than once. |
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| 20:15.44 | Aziroshin | Hmm, I've just done research on multi-user jack audio. If everything fails, attempting to transition the screencasting environment to a different user altogether might be a solution, as it seems there is a way to have jackd run as a system wide daemon. I might want to look into this more. |
| 20:16.36 | Aziroshin | Still, the problem stands, as it would be preferable to tackle this with less overhead for now. If you have an idea, I'd greatly appreciate any pointers. :) - I'll look at the chat from time to time to see. |
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| 20:27.53 | juba | Hi, could someone help me with a problem with kscreen on kubuntu 15.04/Plasma 5.3 ? |
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| 20:51.25 | librehat | Hello guys, I installed XFCE and loged into XFCE then switched back to Plasma 5. But the desktop notification seems broken now. |
| 20:51.56 | librehat | It pops out at top-right corner instead slipped out from bottom-right where the status notifier is. |
| 20:52.26 | librehat | Seems like it gets changed by XFCE somehow. How can I change it back? |
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| 20:53.46 | rdieter | librehat: it's possible the xfce notification daemon is running instead of the kde one |
| 20:54.27 | librehat | rdieter: I've removed all XFCE packages and rebooted. |
| 20:54.28 | rdieter | librehat: look for xfce4-notifyd, and kill it |
| 20:54.42 | librehat | rdieter: you |
| 20:54.51 | librehat | rdieter: you're right... it's still there, werid |
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| 20:56.28 | librehat | rdieter: there is no notifications now... sorry but what is the relevant daemon of plasma 5? |
| 20:57.01 | rdieter | it's supposed to start ondemand |
| 20:57.22 | rdieter | I thought (dbus activated) |
| 20:57.44 | librehat | rdieter: it didn't bring itself back. I'll re-login and try. |
| 20:57.55 | rdieter | librehat: do you have notifications widget active in systray ? |
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| 20:59.00 | librehat | rdieter: re-login solved it. thx |
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| 21:38.29 | auxsvr | hi |
| 21:38.50 | auxsvr | using kontact 4.14.6 on opensuse 13.2 |
| 21:39.15 | auxsvr | suddenly, kontact copied several hundred times emails from the inbox of an account to another! |
| 21:39.46 | auxsvr | akonadi uses lots of resources in the process for no apparent reason |
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| 21:41.59 | auxsvr | also, gmail accounts do not work |
| 21:42.03 | auxsvr | please advise |
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| 21:46.45 | auxsvr | also, it created ~900 empty email messages in an account |
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| 23:55.14 | CrustY__ | what's plasma 5 archive manager? |
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