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| 00:11.49 | cybermails | hi there. I want to adjust the width of my homerunkicker icon on the panel. So I went to ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc and changed the geometry=0,2,32,22 to geometry=0,2,22,22 and saved the file and restarted the computer. Upon restart the width of the homerunkicker icon remained unchanged, and the geometry settings were reverted back to the original values. Any idea on how I can achieve this? |
| 00:13.18 | zewm | can you just adjust the size of the panel? |
| 00:13.21 | zewm | it should scale with it |
| 00:15.05 | cybermails | Yes, it does that, but the problem is that the width of the homerunkicker plasmoid is wider then the other icons I have on the panel. So it leaves a wider space inbetween it and the neighboring icon. |
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| 00:16.03 | zewm | hrm.. not sure then. I'm not familiar with hrk. Hopefully someone more knowledgeable can offer some advice. |
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| 00:18.03 | cybermails | thanks for trying zewm |
| 00:18.17 | zewm | Yea, sorry I can't offer much more |
| 00:18.32 | zewm | I'm fairly new to linux and kde in general. Thought I would take a wack at it. |
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| 00:19.00 | cybermails | I love KDE out of all the other DEs.. very customizable and snappy too |
| 00:19.10 | zewm | yea, I just switched to it recently |
| 00:19.16 | zewm | and it's a lot better than what I had before |
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| 00:19.43 | zewm | The only DE I have left to 'test' is Gnome3, but I'm not in any rush to change kde |
| 00:19.48 | zewm | I'm really enjoying it |
| 00:20.38 | cybermails | ah.. i tried Gnome3 on OpenSuse recently, and it looks chic, but gets on your nerves for it's lack of customizability. I don't like the gnome tweaks feature, it's like firefox extensions |
| 00:22.21 | zewm | I'm a gamer and KDE has been the only DE that lets me alt+tab out of a game |
| 00:22.29 | zewm | the other ones I tried just locked my mouse to the game |
| 00:22.36 | zewm | also, it looks and feels good |
| 00:22.54 | zewm | I have a little weather plasmoid on my desktop so I don't have to go to weather.com anymore |
| 00:23.01 | zewm | These little things make it very nice |
| 00:23.16 | zewm | I still don't really understand activities, but I'll eventually play around with it and figure it out |
| 00:23.41 | zewm | My only complaint so far is that I can't put text into my program launcher |
| 00:23.44 | zewm | only change the icon |
| 00:23.48 | zewm | bummer |
| 00:25.09 | cybermails | I don't use activities. It's kinda redundant if you use seperate desktop widgets for your desktops. |
| 00:25.39 | cybermails | Are you talking about the tooltip when you hover the mouse on the program launcher? |
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| 00:28.20 | cybermails | zewm ^ |
| 00:28.35 | zewm | woops |
| 00:28.42 | zewm | no, you know the actual icon |
| 00:28.46 | zewm | that you click to open your launcher |
| 00:29.00 | zewm | in other DEs it lets me edit the text next to it (usually 'menu' or 'start') |
| 00:29.06 | zewm | but in KDE, I can only change the icon |
| 00:29.09 | zewm | it has no text field |
| 00:29.39 | cybermails | Ah I see.. that's true, i haven't come across that |
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| 00:32.25 | ussher_ | Im trying to get kdm to startup when the system boots. currently I drop to the terminal and need to login, then do 'sudo kdm'. I just recently upgraded to kubuntu 14.04 and can't seam to locate a howto to help. |
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| 00:36.22 | zewm | when you install KDM it should default to load up automatically |
| 00:36.36 | zewm | try reinstalling it? |
| 00:36.40 | zewm | sudo apt-get install kdm |
| 00:37.15 | zewm | or sudo apt-get purge kdm | apt-get install kdm |
| 00:37.26 | ussher_ | thats how i installed it. it then showed me the dpkg-reconfigure screen and i chose kdm. |
| 00:38.57 | zewm | :/ |
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| 00:57.41 | ussher_ | Thanks for that idea zewm. no luck. in dmesg, im getting this message "[ 4.600301] init: kdm main process (1632) killed by TERM signal" |
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| 02:11.43 | cybermails | does anyone know how I can save geometries parameters in plasma-desktop-appletsrc file? |
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| 03:06.57 | AkhIL | greetings. I'm using kde 4.14, chromium keeps open audio device with pulseaudio and prevents power manager to suspend system when I'm away. Can I disable any blocking from suspending by any application? |
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| 03:08.10 | thiago | neither pulseaudio nor chromium are KDE applications |
| 03:08.13 | krzx | AkhIL: do you have alsamixer and other alsa tools |
| 03:08.25 | krzx | they are console apps |
| 03:08.28 | AkhIL | yes |
| 03:08.48 | krzx | might be something you can do with some alsa settings |
| 03:08.49 | thiago | I also don't think that the power manager checking pulseaudio status is a KDE application either (I don't think that's powerdevil) |
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| 03:09.53 | toan_ | hi all, i have a dumb question, , but i want to know if it is possible to freeze a plasma-desktop state (to disk), and restore it at a later time when can Xorg session is active |
| 03:10.02 | AkhIL | anyway, when I close chromium system goes sleep as expected |
| 03:10.24 | toan_ | i noticed that ksm isn't working well, sometimes it would not launch some applications |
| 03:10.41 | krzx | toan_: yes theres a setting to remember and open applications from last session |
| 03:10.46 | krzx | somewhere in system settings |
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| 03:10.55 | thiago | toan_: which apps? |
| 03:10.57 | toan_ | krzx, i tried it, doens't work well |
| 03:11.00 | toan_ | k session manager |
| 03:11.02 | toan_ | ksm |
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| 03:11.47 | krzx | the options are restore previous session, restore manually saved session, start with empty session |
| 03:11.54 | krzx | try googling how to save session |
| 03:11.55 | krzx | ? |
| 03:11.58 | krzx | manually save |
| 03:12.01 | toan_ | i tested on kubuntu, i had chrome and some other apps openned, and then saved the session, the next session didn't start with all the apps launched |
| 03:12.13 | thiago | chrome doesn't participate in session management |
| 03:12.15 | thiago | any other apps? |
| 03:12.17 | toan_ | krzx, i know how to save session |
| 03:12.17 | krzx | it works for me i have it set to restore |
| 03:12.45 | toan_ | krzx |
| 03:12.50 | krzx | do you have the automatic bug tracking tool enabled |
| 03:12.50 | toan_ | does it work all the time |
| 03:12.57 | krzx | theres some startup errors with chromium |
| 03:12.58 | toan_ | are you sure you tried many many apps |
| 03:13.03 | krzx | yes |
| 03:13.24 | toan_ | chrome never started on my ksession restoration |
| 03:13.27 | krzx | i stopped using chrome 1 because its a resource hog every tab is run as a seperate process and too many bugs |
| 03:13.44 | toan_ | krzx, i know, i switched to FF now |
| 03:14.06 | toan_ | but the idea is that KSM doesn't work well |
| 03:14.13 | AkhIL | as I remember in XFCE system goes sleep even when music or video plays. So I think there is some smarth things in kde power managment to keep system awake while audio or video playing |
| 03:14.24 | toan_ | that's why i want to put the plasma-desktop process to a freezer and relauch it |
| 03:14.27 | thiago | it's not ksmserver's fault |
| 03:14.35 | thiago | chrome will not participate in the session management |
| 03:14.41 | thiago | the bug is in chrome |
| 03:14.49 | toan_ | thiago, i did not know that |
| 03:14.50 | krzx | you were sure to check apply after selecting restore option in ksm right |
| 03:14.58 | toan_ | i tried for hours today , without knowing why |
| 03:15.27 | krzx | im not sure if the restore works with a reboot but it works if you logout |
| 03:15.50 | krzx | then on the sign on screen choose previous session from the menu |
| 03:15.58 | toan_ | thiago, i think some other apps did not work too, i tried codeblock and it did not restore, also tried lazarus, and did not work |
| 03:16.13 | krzx | toan_: crontab them |
| 03:16.25 | toan_ | nah |
| 03:16.31 | krzx | or use the task scheduler in kde system settings |
| 03:16.32 | toan_ | i dont like to apply patches |
| 03:16.57 | toan_ | i work on a development machine, i'd rather put my pC to hibernate to ram |
| 03:17.17 | krzx | apply patches? |
| 03:17.21 | krzx | crontab is a conole based tool |
| 03:17.26 | krzx | console |
| 03:17.29 | toan_ | thiago, do you know why KSM server doesn't restore for some other apps: like codeblock & lazarus |
| 03:17.35 | krzx | it should already be installed on your system |
| 03:18.13 | toan_ | krzx, i am not interested in launching them manually, i just want to save my session |
| 03:18.34 | toan_ | and restore them as needed |
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| 03:20.37 | toan_ | thiago, ? |
| 03:23.04 | toan_ | is there any developer in here? |
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| 03:26.15 | thiago | toan_: there isn't any KSM server besides ksmserver |
| 03:26.24 | thiago | toan_: ksmserver works for all applications that participate in X11 SM. |
| 03:26.34 | thiago | toan_: it does not work for any application that fails to register with X11 SM. |
| 03:26.48 | thiago | toan_: so if you have any application that fails to be restored, it's most likely a bug in that application. File a bug with them. |
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| 03:55.17 | toan_ | thiago, thank you for the clarification |
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| 04:25.20 | toan_ | thiago, i want to know if there is a plan to make a user selectable tool to switch between different session at runtime, i thought it would be a kool feature |
| 04:42.32 | thiago | toan_: not that I know of |
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| 06:50.41 | koshie | Hi everyone. I've having trouble to have differents panels for each virtual desktop. In the system configuration, in workspace I put the option to have a set of independant widgets for the panels. |
| 06:50.58 | koshie | I'm using Kubuntu 14.10, and so KDE 4.14.1. |
| 06:51.34 | koshie | But with that it doesn't works. If I remove a widget (for example, an application icon), it's removed on each virtual desktop. |
| 06:52.19 | koshie | If I put a new panel, it's available on each virtual desktop too.. |
| 06:52.41 | koshie | I want to put some icons applications and widgets on the desktop related to the goal of the virtual desktop. |
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| 07:00.00 | valorie | pfff |
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| 07:01.02 | koshie | Sorry I crashed. If someone has answered me while I was disconnected... |
| 07:02.06 | valorie | I was about to say, koshie, that it sounds like you want Activities |
| 07:02.40 | valorie | and don't worry, you can have multiple virt desktops in each activity |
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| 07:03.36 | koshie | valorie: I'm pretty sure too, but the last time I tried to use activites I didn't liked it, if I can put different icons for the panels and widgets for the desktop for each virtual desktop, independant one of each other, that's all I need. |
| 07:03.55 | koshie | But if I can't I guess I have to start using activites.. |
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| 07:06.39 | koshie | Plus mostly I put a virtual desktop for one or two applications / windows, I don't think I need something very powerful. |
| 07:07.07 | koshie | It's just for a better organization of my windows, since I can have a lot sometimes and it began to be annoying. |
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| 07:10.00 | valorie | well, that is the whole point of activities |
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| 07:10.42 | koshie | valorie: even to just have different icons on panels? For now, virtual desktop done the job well. |
| 07:11.20 | koshie | And start to understanding a new function of KDE 4 just for a little function, I'm not sure that's the best idea. There is no way without actitivies? |
| 07:11.52 | valorie | I don't know |
| 07:12.06 | valorie | sort of a slow time in the channel |
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| 07:12.17 | valorie | the europeans aren't up yet |
| 07:12.28 | koshie | In doubt I'll ask guys on #kde-fr, but there is less peoples than here :). Anyway, thanks valorie. |
| 07:13.38 | valorie | you are most welcome, and I hope you will find the answer you seek |
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| 07:20.51 | clk | now 3:pm here, anyway good morning |
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| 07:46.28 | techsayan | nemysis: good morning |
| 07:48.16 | nemysis | hi techsayan |
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| 11:00.15 | MarkRS | starting up KDE reports "duplication notes collection". How do I find out what and where this is? |
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| 11:03.19 | MarkRS | "duplicate", sorry |
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| 11:09.56 | rindolf | Hi all. The KDE system's screen is stuck on virtual console 0 - giving a black screen and an unresponsive X. This happened before . Now I'm running JWM on a different virtual console, and trying to debug it - what can I do? |
| 11:10.23 | rindolf | I should note that I'm ong Mageia 5 x86-64. |
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| 11:24.03 | MarkRS | starting up KDE reports "duplicate notes collection". How do I find out what and where this is? |
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| 12:13.24 | MarkRS | starting up KDE complains "duplicate notes collection". How do I find out what and where this is? |
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| 12:22.56 | kelvar_ | MarkRS: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=duplicate+notes+collection |
| 12:23.52 | MarkRS | :( Ok, fair enough. I had tried that, obviously using the wrong words. Sorry |
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| 12:25.29 | BluesKaj | 'Morning folks |
| 12:26.45 | MarkRS | kelvar: Do you see any relevant link in the pages that result from that? Even adding the word "KDE" I don't see anything relevant |
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| 12:32.26 | kelvar_ | MarkRS: https://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php/497628-kde-4-13-0-in-opensuse-13-1-knotes-doesn-t-create-a-new-note-and-in-12-3-yes |
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| 12:32.52 | kelvar_ | MarkRS: scroll down a bit, and I have no idea about this issue, so I can't really help you |
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| 12:35.49 | MarkRS | ok, thanx kelvar |
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| 14:50.38 | edge226 | in the main menu I mean. |
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| 16:18.33 | Kano | hi, what could be the problem when the keyboard does not work with kdeconnect? |
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| 18:30.40 | karolherbst | does anybody of you have a lot of intel gpu hangs with kwin-5.1.1? Like every other day? |
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| 19:16.20 | Quantum` | Anyone know why kmail doesn't work with local mbox's anymore? |
| 19:16.51 | Quantum` | I mean, the account is set up, but it just doesn't fetch mail that's there. |
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| 19:50.00 | BluesKaj | toothe, dolphin > network |
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| 19:50.48 | toothe | yes, but my shares do not load up there... |
| 19:50.56 | toothe | however, I am able to access them in my Windows VM. |
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| 20:06.06 | Th3R0b | official channel for ktelepathy? |
| 20:06.15 | Th3R0b | or any channel that can answer questions related |
| 20:08.20 | cb400f | hm.. #ktp? #kde-tp ... #kde-telepathy ... I'm pretty sure there is one |
| 20:08.50 | cb400f | #kde-telepathy seems to be right |
| 20:08.59 | Th3R0b | thx |
| 20:09.02 | Th3R0b | tried ktelepathy |
| 20:09.05 | Th3R0b | but that wasnt it |
| 20:09.07 | Th3R0b | shoulda figured |
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| 20:21.31 | Quantum` | Why do KDE windows always start behind everything else? |
| 20:22.52 | Th3R0b | focus stealing prevention or some such? |
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| 20:24.48 | Quantum` | Where is this set? SystemSettings|WindowBehavior|focus stealing preventiom is set Low. |
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| 21:46.33 | Walex | Quantum`: it happens to me as well, and I have "Focus Follows Mouse" |
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| 21:47.49 | kristal | Anyone know of an easy-ish way to run KDE in a window? |
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| 21:48.48 | Quantum` | A window of what? |
| 21:49.17 | kristal | a whole damn seperate x isntance |
| 21:49.59 | kristal | I used a program to launch one long ago but I don't remember what it was called |
| 21:50.00 | Quantum` | Modify kdm? VNC? |
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| 21:50.16 | Walex | kristal: look for nested X servers like Xephyr, Xvnc, Xnest |
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| 21:51.00 | kristal | Walex: ahh nested, that's it |
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| 22:44.58 | MobileRoey | HI! |
| 22:45.18 | MobileRoey | heyl... KDE didn't start up for me once I upgraded from Kubuntu 14.04 -> 14.10. I moved ~/.kde aside and ran startx, letting KDE re-start. It did. How can I diagnose what's wrong with my ~/.kde then? |
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