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| 00:33.38 | Stallmanu | For some reason even when I have read mail KMail is not marking it as read |
| 00:33.52 | Stallmanu | Any ideas why? |
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| 00:35.46 | athan | If you search for an application on kickoff and decide to run the command, can you have kickoff open a new terminal window for the invoked command? |
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| 00:44.36 | Phr33d0m | athan you can always prepend `konsole -e` to that command |
| 00:44.56 | Phr33d0m | or make a script that runs konsole for you |
| 00:46.15 | athan | Thank you!!! |
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| 01:09.41 | Phr33d0m | np |
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| 01:35.20 | flaviu1 | When I enable the 'Simple Python Console', the settings pane pops up but the console is not available either through the menus or keyboard shortcuts. There is an probably unrelated X error in stdout, but that's it |
| 01:35.35 | flaviu1 | In Kate with Pate |
| 01:37.04 | flaviu1 | Are there more log files somewhere or has anyone else had this issue? |
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| 01:41.33 | LapJup | how do i open a website page in dolphin? |
| 01:41.50 | Stallmanu | LapJup: use Konqueror :) |
| 01:42.42 | LapJup | hmmm |
| 01:43.11 | LapJup | i can use that to uplaoad and download files? |
| 01:43.52 | thiago | yes |
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| 01:45.30 | LapJup | hmmm |
| 01:48.07 | LapJup | i want to put a page i built here on to a web site |
| 01:48.26 | LapJup | konq and dolphin open the page |
| 01:48.43 | Stallmanu | You mean with ftp or something? |
| 01:49.54 | LapJup | that sort of thing |
| 01:50.11 | LapJup | there is a way to do it with dolphin and konq |
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| 04:59.13 | soon | When starting up (Mint 16 KDE), KDE is veery slow until I can get a terminal open, ps -A and kill 'kate' after which it runs smoothly, immediately. I then get a warning: "KDEInit could not lanuch /usr/bin/kate" |
| 04:59.24 | soon | I dont know why kate would launch at start anyway ... |
| 05:00.12 | soon | any suggestions why or how to fix? |
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| 05:35.18 | sprakk | How do I set the x11 properties on a window so I get titlebar and no borders (or vice versa). I can remove all decorations with _MOTIF_WM_HINTS, but it seems KDE only respects the "remove all decorations" flag of _MOTIF_WM_HINTS, not the more finely grained flags. |
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| 05:40.11 | thiago | sprakk: kwin is not the Motif WM |
| 05:40.18 | thiago | it does not need to respect _MOTIF_WM_HINTS |
| 05:40.30 | sprakk | thiago: sure, thats true. I'd prefer not to use _MOTIF_WM_HINTS |
| 05:40.35 | thiago | then don't |
| 05:40.47 | thiago | please take a look at what ICCCM and EHWM hints exist |
| 05:41.29 | sprakk | thiago: right, I've looked a bit at this but didn't find anything |
| 05:41.44 | thiago | then you've reached your conclusion |
| 05:42.00 | sprakk | thiago: I've also looked around for a KDE standard way of setting the hints to control decoration, but can't find anything |
| 05:42.21 | sprakk | thiago: are you saying KDE does not support changing decoratiobs of windows by setting x11 window properties? |
| 05:42.26 | thiago | yes |
| 05:42.57 | sprakk | thiago: ok.. just out of curiosity, would you happen to know the rationale for not supporting that? |
| 05:43.11 | sprakk | (It seems like a rather useful function on the face of it) |
| 05:43.19 | thiago | I don't know the reason for sure |
| 05:43.28 | thiago | I can speculate that it isn't supported because it isn't supposed to be |
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| 05:43.36 | thiago | it's not part of ICCCM nor EHWM, according to you |
| 05:44.12 | thiago | and kwin's maintainer is a strong supporter of compositor-side decorations and the WM dictates what to draw and what not to draw |
| 05:44.41 | thiago | the window declares what type it is and what actions it supports. It does not get to say what parts of the decoration it wants or where. The WM decides that based on the window type. |
| 05:44.55 | sprakk | thiago: well, theres the _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE thing in EWMH, I tried setting that to various things (_DIALOG, etc.) but it had no effect |
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| 05:45.35 | thiago | I believe you have no option to have titlebar and no borders |
| 05:45.43 | thiago | either you have titlebar and borders, or you have neither |
| 05:46.08 | sprakk | thiago: well, that seems to be the case then |
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| 05:46.53 | thiago | why don't you want the borders? |
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| 05:49.32 | sprakk | thiago: well, mainly for cosmetic reasons I guess, at the moment |
| 05:49.55 | thiago | why do you want your window to be different from all others? |
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| 05:51.01 | sprakk | thiago: Well, its not "my window". Im writing some tools to manipulate x11 windows. I found that one can, after a window is create, remove its decorations by using _MOTIF_WM_HINTS. Various implementations do it this way and KDE does respect it for total removal of decoration. So I then wondered if theres a way to get intermediate states of decoration |
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| 05:51.47 | sprakk | thiago: I.e. I'm interested in the ways one can manipulate already existing windows using various X11 stuff. One of the ways of manipulation is playing with decorations. Hence my question. |
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| 05:52.32 | sprakk | thiago: natually, using KDE, I'm also interested if there is a "KDE standard" way of doing that without relying on _MOTIF_WM_HINTS |
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| 05:53.15 | thiago | I see |
| 05:53.17 | thiago | interesting |
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| 05:59.40 | sprakk | thiago: anyway, thanks for your help and discussion, I appreciate it |
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| 09:15.14 | jelly | Hi, is there a way to autologin a user but keep the screen locked in recent KDE versions? Use case: restoring the session after power loss and not having to log in and wait for stuff to start. |
| 09:15.59 | jelly | I'm using 4.8 on Debian 7 right now, and can't find such a feature |
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| 09:29.15 | sandman13 | jelly, can you help me with the situation mentioned in #debian by me? |
| 09:29.49 | jelly | not using that app, sorry |
| 09:30.11 | sandman13 | oh |
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| 09:34.35 | d10n | or stack the hour on top of the minute |
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| 09:47.51 | sandman13 | why doesn't Caledonia Theme work well with KDE 4.8 |
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| 11:21.47 | morsik | hello there. it's possible to use different color scheme for single window/application? |
| 11:22.21 | DaZ | -style |
| 11:23.25 | DaZ | oh, you want color scheme ,_, |
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| 11:23.45 | morsik | DaZ: yeah. i have QtCurve theme, but i want different titlebar color just for Spotify (-; |
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| 11:24.13 | morsik | qtcurve doesn't support custom colors, so i thought about starting app with different color scheme |
| 11:24.50 | DaZ | i guess you could make a simple qss for that and use --stylesheet |
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| 11:27.10 | DaZ | but i'm not sure if it's possible to change the titlebar ,_, |
| 11:27.56 | DaZ | since it's pretty much a different app kwin |
| 11:28.34 | morsik | QtCurve's titlebar gets color from colorscheme anyway (i hope?) |
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| 11:34.51 | DaZ | i've ran stuff with different KDEHOME and the kwin bar didn't change :v |
| 11:35.06 | morsik | ugh… |
| 11:35.31 | DaZ | the only decorator that i know, that can do that is bespin |
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| 11:35.51 | morsik | ok, so nevermind then >: |
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| 11:37.27 | mgraesslin | morsik: that needs support from the application - there are some which do that, e.g. digikam or krita |
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| 14:25.08 | obsed | in kde, is there a way to save the current height,width and position of a running app, and launch the app with those same settings later ? |
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| 14:26.40 | edoloughlin | I did a 'sudo startx' while trying to fix some problems with my account and haven't been able to use audio (in KDE and Xfce) since then. I did a 'chown me:me' on all files in my home dir but it hasn't fixed it. Any ideas? |
| 14:27.43 | DaZ | edoloughlin: it was chown me:me * -r or chown me:me /home/me -r ? :v |
| 14:27.54 | DaZ | because * doesn't expand to dotfiles |
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| 14:28.28 | leszek | obsed: yes this is possible. Right on title bar click and go to application or window settings |
| 14:28.43 | edoloughlin | I made sure I got everything. Also did an 'ls -lR .*|grep root' from my home dir and there are no files remaining owned by root |
| 14:28.54 | leszek | damn it |
| 14:28.57 | DaZ | interesting |
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| 14:30.15 | edoloughlin | I 'm on my second new account (upgrading to Kubuntu 14.04 borked KDE for me) so I'm really trying to avoid starting from scratch again. |
| 14:31.06 | edoloughlin | Apps, e.g., audacity give ALSA errors. |
| 14:31.40 | DaZ | what errors :v |
| 14:32.16 | DaZ | and what apps, check something that doesn't use phonon |
| 14:32.31 | edoloughlin | https://gist.github.com/edoloughlin/975c85f3ad52d0447a57 |
| 14:32.57 | edoloughlin | What doesn't use phonon/ |
| 14:33.00 | edoloughlin | ? |
| 14:33.20 | DaZ | gtk stuff :v |
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| 14:34.29 | edoloughlin | Yoinks :( I'd rather not drag in Gnome stuff, but I'll give it a go.... |
| 14:34.32 | DaZ | do you have ~/.asoundrc? |
| 14:34.44 | edoloughlin | no |
| 14:34.55 | DaZ | edoloughlin: mplayer? |
| 14:35.10 | edoloughlin | ok. trying... |
| 14:36.31 | edoloughlin | no sound from mplayer. |
| 14:36.43 | DaZ | kek |
| 14:37.11 | edoloughlin | I'd better check with a different set of headphones..... |
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| 14:39.04 | edoloughlin | And (another) reboot... |
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| 14:42.25 | edoloughlin | Just for kicks (the reboot didn't fix anything), how do I completely remove my KDE settings? The environment seems to be spread over multiple hidden directories these days. |
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| 14:43.02 | rdieter | edoloughlin: if you want to be ultimately paranoid, delete/reset all of $HOME |
| 14:43.26 | rdieter | edoloughlin: A slightly less paranoid version, include only ~/.kde, ~/.local, ~/.config |
| 14:43.52 | rdieter | (depends a bit too on what you mean exactly by "my KDE settings") |
| 14:44.44 | rdieter | edoloughlin: reading backscroll, I think what you need to check is /tmp/kde-<username> and /var/tmp/kdecache-<username> |
| 14:45.13 | rdieter | (note: stuff not in $HOME , but symlinked-to from ~/.kde/...) |
| 14:45.38 | edoloughlin | Oh, they escaped me. I'll have a look |
| 14:47.24 | rdieter | edoloughlin: plus possibly anything XAUTHORITY env var points to |
| 14:47.33 | rdieter | depends on your distro/setup |
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| 14:48.44 | edoloughlin | no luck with /var/tmp or /tmp or XAUTHORITY. I'll gut the local stuff too |
| 14:49.50 | edoloughlin | I also found /tmp/pulse-<random> |
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| 14:53.53 | DaZ | pulseaudio, such technology |
| 14:54.46 | moviuro_ | sound in Linux is like a chocolate box |
| 14:55.20 | DaZ | dunno, i'm using just alsa and it's ok :v |
| 14:55.39 | moviuro_ | (I've got 7 configurations, some working with-out pulse, some as pulse server, some that -don't- accept headphones...) |
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| 14:56.15 | moviuro_ | so edoloughlin, keep calm, keep trying, one day, it'll (surely) work ;) |
| 14:57.03 | edoloughlin | No luck deleting everything. Time to try a new account. :( |
| 14:57.04 | DaZ | best advice ever 10/10 |
| 14:57.14 | DaZ | so |
| 14:57.22 | DaZ | you haven't try it on a new account yet? :v |
| 14:58.19 | edoloughlin | I'd migrated to a new account recently because of another problem. I was trying to avoid doing it all over again |
| 15:00.23 | edoloughlin | ok. interesting - I try to log into KDE with a new account and I get a blank screen and dumped back to the KDM login screen |
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| 15:09.09 | DaZ | edoloughlin: ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 15:16.30 | edoloughlin | DaZ: nothing. I cleaned out the old, broken account and audio worked. I logged back into my current account and no audio. Then back to my old account and it now has no audio |
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| 18:22.54 | LucidGuy | I still set my video settings via nvidia-settings? Should I not? |
| 18:23.37 | certem_ | hi |
| 18:25.02 | certem_ | I want to use kde on gentoo and would like to install kde while keeping the profile set to "[3] default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop *" |
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| 18:39.50 | edoloughlin | Hi, I as complaining earlier that my sound was broken because I ran 'su startx' from an SSH session to try to get a session to start (/tmp partition was full at the time). I now see what's wrong but I don't know how to fix it: https://gist.github.com/edoloughlin/1e655206f7bedd7646ca |
| 18:39.53 | edoloughlin | Something expects /tmp/ksocket-<me> and /tmp/kde-<me> and related stuff in /var/tmp to be owned by root and not me. |
| 18:40.05 | edoloughlin | Any idea how I can fix this? |
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| 18:40.56 | edoloughlin | I've already tried starting with a clean session but it doesn't work. Still no sound. If I can track down why KDE expects the tmp files to be owned by root I might be able to fix it. |
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| 19:00.10 | edoloughlin | For anyone searching IRC logs, the problem was that ~/.Xauthority was still owned by root. I could login after deleting it. My sound is still broken, though. |
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| 19:16.37 | d10n | Is there a way to rotate the date on a panel or stack the hour on top of the minute when the panel is on the left edge of the screen? The date and time are too wide for the panel otherwise |
| 19:17.28 | anon1269 | d10n: adjustable clock |
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| 19:22.57 | d10n | anon1269: what? |
| 19:23.34 | anon1269 | a plasmoid |
| 19:24.18 | d10n | it doesn't show when I search for it in what I have installed or in what I can download |
| 19:25.05 | DaZ | binary plasmoids don't show up in the download thingie |
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| 19:29.09 | d10n | adjustable clock is great, thanks, anon1269 |
| 19:30.07 | d10n | it would be nice if binary plasmoids show up if you have the tools needed to compile them |
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| 19:32.27 | d10n | it doesn't look like there's a way to rotate text with adjustable clock :( |
| 19:33.25 | anon1269 | d10n: it is usually distro packagers' job you know--to provide binary plasmoid |
| 19:35.11 | anon1269 | d10n: you can rotate it if it is not in a panel |
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| 19:37.28 | d10n | a panel is the most convenient place to put a clock, since it's always visible |
| 19:40.08 | d10n | ah, I can probably rotate it in an svg |
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| 20:19.13 | brli | hi, are there anyone interested in maintaining kfilebox, a Dropbox client for KDE? |
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| 20:36.55 | Stallmanu | Is there a way to copy a calendar I already made to my google calendar without manually copying them over in KOrganizer? |
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| 21:19.04 | sombragris | hi there |
| 21:19.09 | sombragris | I have a small problem |
| 21:21.01 | sombragris | I am compiling a big piece of software |
| 21:21.13 | sombragris | and for that I was using yakuake (2.9.9) |
| 21:21.33 | sombragris | as many of you might know, yakuake pulls down when pressing F12 |
| 21:21.49 | sombragris | now... the problem is that I press F12 and it doesn't show |
| 21:22.04 | sombragris | top shows that the compilation is still ongoing |
| 21:22.13 | sombragris | but I cannot check its progress |
| 21:22.44 | sombragris | do you have any idea, any dcop/dbus command that would show the yakuake terminal window? |
| 21:22.49 | sombragris | thanks in advance |
| 21:22.51 | sombragris | :) |
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| 22:40.39 | Haikarainen | I've denied it several times now as it seems to come randomly |
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