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| 01:01.03 | michealPW | I'm using KDE 4.9.4 on Kubuntu 12.04.1. When I resize Konsole it goes black and it fails to redraw the window properly (It's missing the file|edit menus, the scroll bar, all the text from the terminal etc.) Oddly enough, gnome-terminal does not have this behavior when run in KDE. |
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| 01:04.58 | michealPW | I've tried toggling a whole bunch of Desktop Effects' settings to find a culprit (Qt from Native to Raster, Scaling from Cubic to Smooth and Accurate etc.) but couldn't seem to find the cause. Any help would be great, thx! |
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| 01:06.56 | DaZ | michealPW: what graphic card? :v |
| 01:07.20 | michealPW | Sorry, it's an ATI 6550D. I'm using the proprietary fglrx (12.10) |
| 01:07.39 | michealPW | Err, HD 6550D or whatever. I guess it's AMD not ATI hehe |
| 01:08.03 | DaZ | i have no idea about those >: |
| 01:08.16 | michealPW | Is there a simple way to make videos, maybe I can make a short video that demonstrates it? |
| 01:08.25 | michealPW | Maybe that will help? If not nvm |
| 01:08.45 | Torch | recordmydesktop is usually recommended (i haven't used it myself) |
| 01:08.54 | Torch | problem is, the video might not show the bug |
| 01:08.55 | michealPW | Kewl I'll check it out thx |
| 01:09.02 | michealPW | Ah, hrmm |
| 01:09.07 | DaZ | screenshot would be good as well imo :v |
| 01:09.21 | michealPW | Lemme see if I can capture it with a screenshot :D |
| 01:09.26 | Torch | yes, sure, that might be more than enough |
| 01:10.46 | Torch | you could also try the open source driver (radeon) |
| 01:12.09 | michealPW | http://i48.tinypic.com/987ewy.png |
| 01:12.46 | michealPW | So the two terminals on the right are Konsole. One is a normal Konsole, the one in the top right is a resized Konsole. Also there's gnome-terminal in the top left for reference, it was resized also has transparent background working fine. |
| 01:14.28 | michealPW | It's weird 'cause I mean Konsole I can enable transparent background and use it perfectly fine... Until I resize the window haha it all goes crazytown on me. |
| 01:14.49 | DaZ | and if it's not transparent, it's ok? :v |
| 01:14.54 | michealPW | Nope |
| 01:15.06 | michealPW | In the screen konsole has transparency disabled (I thought maybe that was it, too) |
| 01:15.08 | Torch | i don't think the transparency is the issue |
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| 01:15.49 | Torch | file a bug on bugs.kde.org and see if a konsole dev finds the time to answer |
| 01:16.01 | Torch | in the meantime, try the radeon driver |
| 01:16.18 | michealPW | is it "ati" or "radeon" in xorg.conf? |
| 01:16.21 | michealPW | I can't remember hehe |
| 01:16.41 | Torch | radeon, i think. haven't used an ATI card in years (and never will again if i can avoid it) |
| 01:16.49 | michealPW | haha I hear ya :P |
| 01:17.03 | michealPW | Iunno I hear bad things 'bout nVidia on Linux too so we're screwed either way :( |
| 01:17.14 | Torch | i mean (off topic, i know) their WINDOWS drivers have bugs like that |
| 01:17.20 | michealPW | haha |
| 01:17.21 | DaZ | i'm using intel <: |
| 01:17.39 | DaZ | though since ati merged with amd, it's much better |
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| 01:18.04 | michealPW | Yes it has really improved a lot for me. I remember in 2007 hehe |
| 01:18.07 | michealPW | It was great times :| |
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| 01:18.20 | michealPW | </sarcasm> |
| 01:19.03 | zenguy_pc | with clipit i can manage the clipboard history and delete multiple entries.. why isn't this possible with klipper |
| 01:19.44 | michealPW | klipper has such a better name than clipit, though (just saying..) |
| 01:21.14 | michealPW | Do I login with my email? Gah so many accounts haha I can never remember :| |
| 01:21.30 | Torch | bugs.kde.org? |
| 01:21.47 | michealPW | Jah it's email |
| 01:22.36 | zenguy_pc | also clipit has the ability to make static entries too .. |
| 01:22.59 | Torch | zenguy_pc: you could also file wishlist entries on bugs.kde.org for those issues |
| 01:23.07 | Torch | zenguy_pc: mentioning _here_ what you're missing won't do anything |
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| 01:24.29 | michealPW | Oh I think I found it on bugs.kde.org |
| 01:24.53 | michealPW | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=306294 |
| 01:25.07 | michealPW | It's marked fixed in upstream, but I've got kubuntu backports and KDE 4.9.4 :| |
| 01:25.47 | Torch | that means it's fixed in the video driver, i would guess |
| 01:25.53 | michealPW | hrmm |
| 01:25.54 | Torch | and you probably don't have the latest |
| 01:26.08 | Torch | upstream here is not KDE, of course, this being KDE's issue tracker |
| 01:26.24 | michealPW | Oh |
| 01:26.26 | michealPW | Hrmm |
| 01:26.58 | Torch | did you try the suggested workaround? |
| 01:27.33 | michealPW | Oh hey that works |
| 01:27.39 | michealPW | Cool beans! |
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| 01:33.59 | zenguy_pc | Torch: will do.. seemed sort of obvious though |
| 01:35.32 | michealPW | Fiddle sticks |
| 01:37.20 | michealPW | When I'm in Dolphin and right-click -> Actions -> Open Terminal Here it opens konsole without that --notransparency switch :\ |
| 01:37.52 | michealPW | Even though I went to Default Applications and set it to use a custom terminal "konsole --notransparency" hehe :( |
| 01:39.15 | michealPW | I'll try the radeon driver anyways to confirm it's a problem with fglrx. Weird that gnome-terminal doesn't also cause the problem though.. |
| 01:39.22 | Torch | not at all |
| 01:39.31 | Torch | konsole does a lot more than gnome's terminal can do |
| 01:39.46 | Torch | it probably renders its own window contents to that end |
| 01:39.59 | michealPW | Ah, I see |
| 01:41.11 | Torch | to make the argument stick, try setting it in the menu editor (right click on KDE's menu icon and open the application editor) |
| 01:41.25 | Torch | this _should_ affect dolphin too, but i'm not a 100% sure about it |
| 01:42.04 | Torch | It's well hidden in the menu editor under "system". you'll have to add the option to the "command" that is run |
| 01:42.18 | michealPW | oh hah I was looking in "Utilities" |
| 01:42.32 | Torch | yep, doesn't help that utilities has an icon looking like konsole's... |
| 01:43.08 | michealPW | hah, I've got all this LXDE crap laying around left over from when I tried out Lubuntu |
| 01:43.32 | Torch | all these are files under $HOME/.local/share |
| 01:43.40 | Torch | might want to look through those one day |
| 01:43.43 | Torch | be careful though ;-) |
| 01:43.47 | michealPW | hehe yea :) |
| 01:44.30 | michealPW | Bah, still not. Maybe it's a dolphin extension that provides that action? Maybe it cares not what 'Default Application' is set :P |
| 01:44.48 | michealPW | Actually let me try setting something completely different and see if it listens to anything at all in that area |
| 01:45.25 | michealPW | Jah, so no matter what Actions -> Open Terminal Here will _always_ open Konsole there |
| 01:45.29 | Torch | ah, yes, it's a dolphin service |
| 01:45.53 | michealPW | If I could track down it's config I bet I can change it (*crosses fingers*) |
| 01:46.04 | Torch | same way, with a desktop file |
| 01:46.32 | michealPW | Ah, so actions is just a directory with .desktop files in it? |
| 01:46.40 | michealPW | That would make sense :P |
| 01:46.49 | Torch | it's a bit more complicated than that, but that's what it amounts to, yes. |
| 01:47.26 | michealPW | haha I typed "Dolphin Actions" in duckduckgo and got a whole bunch of like "Save the dolphin" kind of pages (giggle) |
| 01:47.31 | michealPW | Need to be more specific *cough* |
| 01:48.21 | michealPW | +kde, +edit |
| 01:48.23 | michealPW | bingo! ;) |
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| 01:52.26 | michealPW | Ack it's not where this page said it was (~/.kde/share/kde4/service/ServiceMenu) there's no ServiceMenu folder, just an nsplugin.desktop file :| |
| 01:52.31 | michealPW | Fiddle sticks! |
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| 01:55.07 | michealPW | hah, I fixed it! |
| 01:56.30 | michealPW | I was browsing around in ~/.kde and found ~/.kde/share/apps/konsole/Shell.profile. I opened it with vim and added Transparency=false and transparency=false to the end of it and now when I open konsole it's as if I ran konsole --notransparency |
| 01:56.34 | michealPW | (dances) |
| 01:57.38 | michealPW | K so it's Transparency=false |
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| 02:00.16 | michealPW | Oh wait no I'm retarded |
| 02:00.24 | michealPW | LOL your solution is what worked not mine (blush) |
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| 02:07.20 | urlwolf | I have a strange crash. Mouse and keyboard events don't work. I use awesomewm, but it cannot be it; I restarted it and still the same |
| 02:08.01 | urlwolf | kubuntu just released a kde update and this started happenning |
| 02:11.50 | Torch | maybe ask in #kubuntu? |
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| 03:03.44 | michealPW | It's a "Service Menu", right? LOL am I at least on the right track? :( |
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| 07:00.45 | jeltsch | Hi, I’m using KDE 4.9.3 on Kubuntu 12.10. Hi, I have an external harddisk. Everytime I mount it, Nepomuk starts to index it. I don’t understand why. |
| 07:00.57 | jeltsch | First, the KDE system settings say that Nepomuk should only index my home folder and not removable media. |
| 07:01.05 | jeltsch | Second, I thought that once Nepomuk has read the harddisk, it won’t reread it, but only check for changes. |
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| 07:18.23 | almoxarife | jeltsch: is it indexing or looking for changes? |
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| 07:19.13 | jeltsch | almoxarife: It works with the harddisk for quite some time, but maybe it takes that long to look for changes. |
| 07:19.37 | jeltsch | How can I tell if it is looking for changes or indexing? |
| 07:19.55 | almoxarife | jeltsch: do you actively use the info gathered by nepomuk? |
| 07:20.37 | jeltsch | almoxarife: So far not. |
| 07:21.56 | almoxarife | jeltsch: if you dont use it you may want to just disable it, when you finally decide to index for some purpose then re-enable it |
| 07:22.43 | jeltsch | Hmm, this might be an option. So far I wanted it to be enabled, because I’d like to have a look at Nepomuk at some time. |
| 07:22.44 | almoxarife | jeltsch: better yet, look at 'recoll' for indexing |
| 07:22.55 | jeltsch | What is this? |
| 07:23.06 | jeltsch | Is it as integrated into KDE as Nepomuk is? |
| 07:23.16 | almoxarife | jeltsch: a real indexer with less overhead than nepomuk |
| 07:23.23 | jeltsch | No KDE support? |
| 07:23.31 | almoxarife | jeltsch: recoll-kde yes |
| 07:23.44 | almoxarife | recoll-krunner |
| 07:23.52 | jeltsch | Hmm, but then I have two indexers installed. Nepomuk and recoll. |
| 07:24.16 | jeltsch | Anyway, even if Nepomuk is only looking for changes on the harddisk, why is it doing this? |
| 07:24.43 | jeltsch | After all, KDE’s system settings say “Ignore all removable media”. |
| 07:25.01 | jeltsch | (Referring to indexing.) |
| 07:25.26 | jeltsch | If Nepomuk doesn’t index, does it still have to look for changes for some reason? |
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| 07:27.28 | almoxarife | jeltsch: i looked at my settings, what do you have checked? |
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| 07:29.02 | jeltsch | I’m using German and will translate the German texts to English. So don’t be surprised if my English labels don’t match what’s on your machine. |
| 07:29.12 | jeltsch | I go to “Desktop search”. |
| 07:29.15 | almoxarife | jeltsch: ok |
| 07:29.40 | jeltsch | Second tab is “Desktop query” or so. |
| 07:29.54 | almoxarife | jeltsch: first tab, go there first |
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| 07:30.07 | jeltsch | All three boxes checked. |
| 07:30.07 | Nickwiz | Running ubuntu with Gnome. Is it possible to install KDE in a "separate home"? As in not have gnome and kde installed in same /home/username/ as it becomes a bit messy. |
| 07:30.30 | thiago | Nickwiz: sure. Create a new user. |
| 07:30.32 | jeltsch | Nickwiz: Neither KDE nor GNOME is installed in the home directory. |
| 07:30.47 | jeltsch | Only their per-user configuration lives there. |
| 07:30.47 | thiago | Nickwiz: also note that you're confusing "install" with "settings" |
| 07:30.54 | Nickwiz | jeltsch: no, but there is a lot of config directories and files |
| 07:31.10 | jeltsch | Nickwiz: Yes, but “installed in” is something different. |
| 07:31.28 | Nickwiz | yes; bad language on my part |
| 07:31.32 | jeltsch | :-) |
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| 07:33.01 | jeltsch | almoxarife: On the second tab (“Desktop query”), there is “Personal folder” chosen as the only “local folder |
| 07:33.23 | jeltsch | whose date shall be indexed for “quick desktop” search. |
| 07:33.36 | almoxarife | jeltsch: but on the first tab you already added what to indexing? |
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| 07:34.24 | almoxarife | jeltsch: on the first tab, strip any dir/folder you dont want indexed |
| 07:34.33 | Nickwiz | So; if I install KDE no config/settings etc will be added to /home/ until logged in using KDE - is this correct? |
| 07:34.46 | jeltsch | almoxarife: I cannot add any directories or such to indexing. There are only three tabs: “Activate Nepomuk semantic services”, “Activate Nepomuk file indexer”, and “Activate e-mail indexer”. |
| 07:34.48 | almoxarife | Nickwiz: yes |
| 07:35.02 | vHanda | jeltsch: next tab |
| 07:35.08 | jeltsch | I mean, on the first tab there are no directories, only three checkboxes. |
| 07:35.12 | vHanda | "Customize Index Folder" |
| 07:35.32 | jeltsch | vHanda: Yes, this is what I thought, but almoxarife seems to use a KDE version where there are directories on the first tab. |
| 07:35.42 | vHanda | oh |
| 07:35.48 | vHanda | which version? |
| 07:36.04 | vHanda | It has been like that for the last 3 releases or so |
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| 07:36.36 | Nickwiz | OK. Thanks. |
| 07:36.40 | almoxarife | jeltsch: on the second tab there is an option to 'customize', strip there too |
| 07:36.50 | jeltsch | vHanda: There is no German equivalent to “Customize index folder” on the second tab. Only “Customized index folders”. Is this what you mean? |
| 07:37.10 | vHanda | yes |
| 07:37.24 | vHanda | with 4.10, this looks a lot pretier. |
| 07:37.30 | vHanda | look - http://vhanda.in/tmp/kcm.png :) |
| 07:38.18 | jeltsch | vHanda: Only the folders in my home directory are checked there. |
| 07:38.24 | jeltsch | Not the external harddisk. |
| 07:38.36 | jeltsch | But it’s the harddisk that is accessed every time I mount it. |
| 07:38.42 | jeltsch | And I don’t like it. |
| 07:38.42 | almoxarife | i am using ver 4.9.4 |
| 07:38.57 | jeltsch | almoxarife: Strange. Almost the same version I use (4.9.3). |
| 07:39.13 | vHanda | jeltsch: ohhhh! Sorry about that. The problem is that you cannot unmount, right? |
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| 07:39.36 | almoxarife | jeltsch: your “Customize index folder” is what i see, |
| 07:40.29 | jeltsch | vHanda: Not just that. The problem is further that the harddisk works heavily for some time, causing noise, ageing faster, and slowing down access. |
| 07:40.48 | almoxarife | jeltsch: really, if indexing is a priority, install 'recoll' , indexing is important to me, i use it as the system 'google' , nepomuk is not the answer to indexing |
| 07:41.22 | jeltsch | But still I like to be able to disable just access of this external harddisk. |
| 07:41.46 | jeltsch | Especially, since I think it shouldn’t be accessed at all in the first place, given my configuration. |
| 07:41.50 | vHanda | jeltsch: If it helps, most of the these problems have been fixed with 4.10. It still traverses the entire hard-disk once when it is mounted, but I'm going to disable that as well. |
| 07:42.15 | vHanda | jeltsch: The reason it is accesed, is cause you could have tagged/rated files in the hard-disk |
| 07:42.20 | almoxarife | jeltsch: external disks, 'harddisk' would be those that can not be removed, but i understand |
| 07:42.33 | vHanda | and we need to install some watches to monitor file moves |
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| 07:43.08 | almoxarife | vHanda: his issue is with 'external' disks, if i understand |
| 07:43.24 | vHanda | yup. I was explaining that only. |
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| 07:43.51 | jeltsch | almoxarife: As far as I understand, a “harddisk” is a collection of actual disks who are hard, as opposed to floppy disks, who are not hard, but floppy. |
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| 07:44.39 | jeltsch | almoxarife: I used to think that “hard” referred to the disk being permanently mounted into the computer, but I think I recently read that this is not the case. |
| 07:45.03 | almoxarife | jeltsch: i dont want to confuse things any more than they are, using the term 'hard-disk' within the english world means those drives that are fixed, i didnt create the mess |
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| 07:46.10 | almoxarife | generally speaking, a hard-drive=fixed drive |
| 07:46.11 | jeltsch | vHanda: Aha. I thought that this tagging and rating was tied to indexing, so that tagging and rating is not possible if indexing is disabled. |
| 07:46.30 | vHanda | no. It is. |
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| 07:46.53 | vHanda | Tagging and rating are possible even if indexing is not enabled. |
| 07:47.12 | jeltsch | almoxarife: Well, fixed disk is probably the term that only refers to the things mounted into the computer. The problem is that until some years ago, all harddisks were fixed disks, leading to confusion of both terms. |
| 07:47.39 | vHanda | Tagging/Rating is the reason your hard-disk is accesed. The filewatch service installs watches to monitor file moves. We do not want to be in a position where your tags are lost if you move a file. |
| 07:48.30 | jeltsch | vHanda: And to install these watches it has to recurse through all directories, but it won’t read file content, right? |
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| 07:50.17 | jeltsch | vHanda: Hmm, can I disable tagging and indexing for this particular external harddisk or maybe all removable media? |
| 07:51.04 | jeltsch | By the way, what happens if I move a file before a watch has been installed to it? Are tags and ratings lost in this case? |
| 07:51.35 | almoxarife | how uses tags and ratings? |
| 07:51.59 | jeltsch | And isn’t it possible to tell the kernel that it should inform KDE about *any* file move on the harddisk, avoiding the need to install a watch for every single file? |
| 07:52.15 | thiago | no |
| 07:52.31 | jeltsch | thiago: No to what? |
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| 07:52.45 | almoxarife | jeltsch: you are back to not having a need for what you are trying so hard to control |
| 07:54.02 | jeltsch | almoxarife: My point is that I want to learn about these features. Maybe they might be useful for me, and I just wouldn’t know if I wouldn’t look at them. Furthermore, I like to implement KDE bindings for the Haskell programming language in the future, so a better knowledge of KDE would be good for me. |
| 07:54.42 | vHanda | jeltsch: I'm thinking of adding something like that. Disabling tagging and rating. |
| 07:54.49 | vHanda | ( for external media ) |
| 07:55.20 | jeltsch | vHanda: So for now, I have to live with this harddisk access as it cannot be disabled. Is this correct? |
| 07:55.26 | thiago | jeltsch: no, it's not possible to ask the kernel for every single notification regardless |
| 07:56.05 | jeltsch | thiago: Hmm, this is really a weakness, as you need time linear in the number of files everytime you mount a harddisk! |
| 07:56.08 | vHanda | jeltsch: pretty much. You could switch off the filewatch process, but then you run the risk on loosing metadta when you move a file. Also you won't have real-time indexing. |
| 07:56.42 | vHanda | How to switch it off - http://vhanda.in/blog/2012/08/nepomuk-without-files/ |
| 07:57.09 | vHanda | jeltsch: Yes. It's is problematic. And that isn't even the worst problem. |
| 07:57.38 | jeltsch | vHanda: What are worse problems? |
| 07:57.57 | vHanda | having to monitor the src AND destination directory in the case of file moves |
| 07:58.04 | vHanda | => We have install watches EVERYWHERE |
| 07:58.12 | vHanda | if we want to intercept file moves |
| 07:58.29 | jeltsch | vHanda: Scary! There is really no other solution under Linux? |
| 07:58.39 | vHanda | nope :/ |
| 07:59.14 | jeltsch | vHanda: Isn’t storing ratings and tags in a separate database an inappropriate concept? |
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| 07:59.28 | jeltsch | What about storing them in extended attributes? |
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| 07:59.47 | vHanda | There are problems with those approaches, cause it isn't just about tags and ratings. |
| 08:00.00 | vHanda | I'll try to write stuff like this down on the wiki |
| 08:00.02 | vHanda | too long to explain |
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| 08:00.41 | jeltsch | vHanda: But at the moment, it seems to me that the Linux kernel is just not ready for what you try to achieve. Maybe one should push the Linux developers a bit. |
| 08:00.56 | vHanda | we have been :/ |
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| 08:01.06 | jeltsch | No success? |
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| 08:01.57 | jeltsch | vHanda: To return to my above question: What happens if I move a file on the external disk before the filewatch services has set up a watch for that file? Are tags and ratings lost in this case? |
| 08:02.07 | vHanda | yup |
| 08:02.33 | jeltsch | vHanda: yup to “no success” or to “tags and ratings are lost in this case”? |
| 08:02.43 | vHanda | "tags and ratings are lost" |
| 08:02.50 | jeltsch | SCARY! |
| 08:03.01 | vHanda | though the file watch process is quite fast, so it usually shouldn't be a problem |
| 08:03.48 | jeltsch | vHanda: It is a classical race condition, I would say. And race conditions are always a problem. To argue with watch installation time just means to talk about probabilities. |
| 08:04.03 | jeltsch | And for my harddisk, it takes quite some time to index. |
| 08:04.05 | almoxarife | vHanda: nice blog, what if i set all values in nepomukserverrc to 'false'?, yes, i dont want nepomuk or indexing to occur |
| 08:04.23 | vHanda | almoxarife: You can disable Nepomuk from the system settings if you don't want it. |
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| 08:04.42 | almoxarife | vHanda: all within nepomukserverrc? |
| 08:04.57 | vHanda | forget about nepomukserverrc, just use the SystemSettings |
| 08:05.47 | jeltsch | vHanda: I really think that the approach of storing tags and ratings in a separate database is conceputally wrong. Why not use extended attributes at least for tags and ratings? |
| 08:05.58 | almoxarife | vHanda: i still have remnants of nepomuk running, akonadi_nepomuk_feeder |
| 08:06.23 | vHanda | jeltsch: too long, will write on the wiki |
| 08:06.28 | jeltsch | For indexing, it might not be necessary to install watches, is it? |
| 08:06.50 | vHanda | we need creation/modification events => We need watches |
| 08:06.56 | almoxarife | jeltsch: my point, for indexing, RECOLL! |
| 08:07.11 | vHanda | almoxarife: PIM requires Nepomuk. No way out. |
| 08:07.16 | vHanda | goes back to work |
| 08:07.26 | almoxarife | vHanda: thnks |
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| 08:08.24 | jeltsch | vHanda: Thank you for all the information. |
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| 08:24.49 | safridzal | hi, im using debian testing kde 4.8.4 and i got seg fault when i run games like supertuxkart, zaz, |
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| 08:25.48 | safridzal | well, it doesnt say "seg fault" when i run it from menu, but if i run it from konsole, thats what i got on the auto-close apps |
| 08:25.57 | safridzal | any suggestion? |
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| 08:30.44 | almoxarife | safridzal: what seg-faults? |
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| 08:34.08 | safridzal | almoxarife: it just say seg fault |
| 08:34.20 | safridzal | im using debian testing kde 4.8.4 and i got seg fault when i run games like supertuxkart, zaz, |
| 08:34.29 | safridzal | well, it doesnt say "seg fault" when i run it from menu, but if i run it from konsole, thats what i got on the auto-close apps |
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| 08:35.37 | safridzal | never happen using gnome2 or mate on this laptop |
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| 08:36.04 | safridzal | so i think its my kde or fglrx that not fit properly |
| 08:36.16 | almoxarife | what specifically seg faults? |
| 08:36.27 | safridzal | googlin for about 1 hour, and got nothing |
| 08:36.56 | safridzal | almoxarife: cant tell you, konsole only says "segmentation fault" |
| 08:37.04 | safridzal | no other explanation |
| 08:37.16 | almoxarife | safridzal: what distro? |
| 08:37.24 | safridzal | debian testing |
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| 08:37.35 | safridzal | well, its LMDE KDE + testing repo |
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| 08:38.16 | almoxarife | safridzal: pastebin /var/log/syslog or messages , which ever applies to your distro |
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| 08:42.43 | safridzal | almoxarife: my pastebin wdget not responding |
| 08:43.11 | safridzal | now my panel not responding |
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| 08:43.28 | safridzal | ugh.. is there something like killall gnome-panel on kde?? |
| 08:44.21 | almoxarife | safridzal: same command in terminal applies |
| 08:44.53 | safridzal | kde-panel: no process found |
| 08:45.12 | almoxarife | safridzal: which applys, /var/log/syslog or messages? |
| 08:45.20 | safridzal | syslog is there |
| 08:45.49 | safridzal | but now i cant access my dolphin, the panel is not responding ( and my dolphin is minimized) |
| 08:46.00 | almoxarife | safridzal: via terminal, pastebin /var/log/syslog |
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| 08:46.37 | safridzal | pastebin: command not found |
| 08:46.49 | safridzal | and on apt-get : E: Unable to locate package pastebin |
| 08:46.50 | almoxarife | safridzal: via terminal, pastebinit /var/log/syslog |
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| 08:47.22 | safridzal | kay, installing now |
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| 08:48.22 | safridzal | almoxarife: is there something like killall gnome-panel on kde?? my panel not responding |
| 08:48.29 | safridzal | http://pastebin.com/JfqZ1r5p |
| 08:48.34 | almoxarife | safridzal: i assume that 'testing' repo is a Not-stable repo |
| 08:49.06 | almoxarife | safridzal: pkill plasma-desktop |
| 08:49.45 | safridzal | i done pkill plasma-desktop, but how to turn it back? |
| 08:50.16 | hzengin | safridzal try using startkde" |
| 08:50.17 | almoxarife | plasma-desktop |
| 08:50.24 | hzengin | or plasma-desktop |
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| 08:50.56 | safridzal | almoxarife: testing isnt stable repo, but its more stable than unstable |
| 08:51.15 | safridzal | ugh, now my plasma is bind to konsole. wait, ill restart |
| 08:51.17 | safridzal | brb |
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| 08:55.23 | almoxarife | i dont undersand, you load 'non-stable' but expect stability and are surprised when its not :) |
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| 08:56.21 | safridzal | almoxarife: kay, hows my syslog? |
| 08:57.38 | almoxarife | Dec 12 10:16:05 aragorn-1215b kernel: [21349.449823] supertuxkart[12934]: segfault at 2 ip 00007fb3e163c10f sp 00007fff7159f680 error 4 in libIrrlicht.so.1.7a.3[7fb3e13bd000+557000] <-- safridzal... , either its incomplete or it was just one instance |
| 08:58.31 | almoxarife | libIrrlicht.so.1.7a.3[7fb3e13bd000+557000 <-- is not a happy camper |
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| 08:58.56 | safridzal | mm, i still dont get it.. |
| 08:59.02 | safridzal | so, whats the problem here then? |
| 08:59.18 | safridzal | that libirr-somthing package?? |
| 08:59.22 | almoxarife | safridzal: you should, you are using non stable, as expected you have bugs |
| 08:59.54 | safridzal | owh,, i get it, so i just have to file a bug report then.. right? |
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| 09:00.53 | safridzal | well, i'll continue my search then, thanks almoxarife :D |
| 09:00.54 | almoxarife | safridzal: no idea, that would be distro specific |
| 09:01.43 | safridzal | well, its not happening on ubuntu or mint mate/cinn, but its happening on kubuntu also |
| 09:01.59 | safridzal | thats why i think its kde related :D |
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| 09:05.35 | almoxarife | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=677609 <-- no its not, its the game, |
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| 09:07.50 | safridzal | almoxarife: owh, cool :D i'll add comment to that bug then.. thanks |
| 09:08.33 | almoxarife | safridzal: its debian that is the problem, not kde |
| 09:09.31 | safridzal | owh, and since kubuntu import debian package, so its affecting kubuntu also then, right? |
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| 09:41.25 | cardamon | GTK really isn't playing nice with the dark color theme KDE feeds it, and I keep getting light text in light textboxes, particularly in iceweasel. |
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| 10:14.52 | jeltsch | Why can’t I unmount my external harddisk under KDE? vHanda told me that this can happen because KDE installs watches to track changes on the external disk. But shouldn’t at least the unmount tool of KDE be able to deal with the file watching of KDE? |
| 10:15.07 | jeltsch | Or is there some other reason for not being able to unmount? |
| 10:15.08 | vHanda | bug |
| 10:15.11 | vHanda | fixed in 4.10 |
| 10:15.27 | jeltsch | Okay, so I misinterpreted your remark. |
| 10:15.32 | vHanda | qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukfilewatch /servicecontrol shutdown |
| 10:15.42 | vHanda | That'll close that process ^ |
| 10:16.17 | jeltsch | And do I have to restart this service afterwards? Or can I use an option “restart” instead of “shutdown”? |
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| 10:22.33 | Aristide | Hi ! |
| 10:22.46 | Aristide | Do you know a software for edit HTML / PHP page, with konqueror integration ? |
| 10:22.46 | einar77_work | vHanda: when was that fixed? I saw this ~last thursday when restoring a backup from an external HDD |
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| 10:22.59 | einar77_work | (running latest git) |
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| 10:23.46 | vHanda | einar77_work: Mon Dec 3 |
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| 10:25.18 | einar77_work | hm |
| 10:25.32 | einar77_work | I'll try to reproduce at home again |
| 10:25.48 | einar77_work | vHanda: do you watch specific mount mounts? |
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| 10:26.11 | vHanda | not specific |
| 10:26.19 | einar77_work | using solid? |
| 10:26.28 | vHanda | yup |
| 10:26.37 | einar77_work | ok, then it's probably solid |
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| 10:52.12 | Aristide | Hi ! Do you know a software for edit HTML / PHP page, with konqueror integration ? |
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| 13:01.14 | eatins2 | hello |
| 13:01.34 | eatins2 | does anyone know how to print from linux |
| 13:01.42 | eatins2 | i have fedora 17 |
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| 13:13.22 | rdieter | eatins2: better question for #fedora, but... : yum groupinstall "Printing Support", then run system-config-printer |
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| 13:14.42 | eatins2 | i ask there too |
| 13:14.45 | eatins2 | thanx |
| 13:16.16 | eatins2 | run system-config-printer |
| 13:16.18 | eatins2 | bash: run: command not found |
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| 13:16.47 | eatins2 | ok without run infront |
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| 13:18.26 | eatins2 | thanx rdieter |
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| 13:18.45 | eatins2 | now i set up printer its correct model |
| 13:18.59 | eatins2 | but it doesnt want to print test page |
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| 13:25.17 | eats | hello |
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| 13:27.33 | gandalf-magic | hello!too |
| 13:27.47 | eats | can anyone help me with printing |
| 13:28.19 | eats | system has correct printer installed but it doesnt print |
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| 13:36.20 | codertux | hi, I'm using the 4.10 beta1 and I lost the OpenVPN connections in the networkmanager applet |
| 13:36.27 | codertux | any way to see what's wrong? |
| 13:38.11 | codertux | I can edit the connections, but the VPN section won't show up |
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| 13:47.26 | BluesKaj | Hey all |
| 13:47.53 | Treadstone__71 | Hello BluesKaj |
| 13:48.11 | BluesKaj | hi Treadstone__71 |
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| 14:08.33 | caf4926 | has anyone here had sucess with connecting to a Nexus tablet in Dolphin usin PTP or MTP? |
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| 15:02.41 | zenguy_pc | does dolphin have a dropdown menu of the tabs open when the number of tabs bring up the scroll options < & > |
| 15:02.44 | zenguy_pc | ? |
| 15:03.12 | zenguy_pc | if it doesn't i'll have to make a feature request |
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| 15:46.29 | jalcine | zenguy_pc: no, it doesn't |
| 15:46.34 | jalcine | just tried it. |
| 15:46.38 | jalcine | makes a scrolling bar of tabs |
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| 15:47.06 | jalcine | but i think that something like that would be a function of the current engine that renders widgets/controls |
| 15:47.07 | zenguy_pc | jalcine: ok |
| 15:47.39 | zenguy_pc | kinda annoyign to scroll back and forth.. that firefox tab menu with the scroll option too is the best |
| 15:49.05 | jalcine | Should be a button or something squeezed in next to or in place of that << >> button in the tab-bar. |
| 15:49.10 | jalcine | Might require a edit of that control. |
| 15:49.47 | jalcine | Or a quicker fix would be to provide a tool bar menu item that has a list of open tabs and having that in the menubar. |
| 15:49.59 | jalcine | is saying it out loud to see the sensibility in it :) |
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| 16:01.52 | zenguy_pc | jalcine: yeah thats not good enough |
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| 16:02.30 | zenguy_pc | takes to long if i have a folders with long names open |
| 16:02.55 | zenguy_pc | jalcine: thats what i'm going to file as a enhancement/wishlist now |
| 16:03.06 | zenguy_pc | i'll post a link when i'm done to you can +1 it |
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| 16:19.03 | jalcine | sweet :) |
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| 16:39.27 | bassliner | hi, can i define that pressing alt-j will send ctrl-tab to an application in X, but just for that one single application? |
| 16:39.41 | thiago | no |
| 16:39.49 | thiago | if you press Alt+J, it sends Alt+J |
| 16:41.40 | bassliner | thiago: well i know i could do that globally in X, but just for an application would make sense in this place. |
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| 17:11.34 | zenguy_pc | jalcine: sorry i took so long .. https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=311580 . i was busy going through killpper bugs |
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| 17:49.05 | lattera | trying to copy text to my workstation's clipboard using xclip over a forwarded X11 connection (ssh -Y), but it seems that the clipboard isn't being set |
| 17:49.12 | lattera | anyone know how to fix that? |
| 17:49.28 | lattera | I've verified that the forwarding works right (I can execute xterm, and xterm shows up) |
| 17:49.54 | lattera | but it seems kde has its own clipboard and doesn't respect the native Xorg clipboard |
| 17:50.30 | lattera | ah, nevermind, it does! |
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| 18:12.15 | zenguy_pc | you closed klipper? |
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| 18:49.10 | fatalerrors | hi everybody |
| 18:49.26 | fatalerrors | i'm using kde 4.9.3 on sabayon linux |
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| 18:50.03 | fatalerrors | recently an nvidia drivers update broke everything |
| 18:50.20 | fatalerrors | and kde refuse to use opengl for rendering |
| 18:50.33 | fatalerrors | even if it's working with games |
| 18:50.52 | fatalerrors | so what could be wrong ? missing deps ? |
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| 18:59.44 | wgosling | fatalerrors: kwin will print some debug info in the console when you start it. Try 'kwin --replace' and see if it gives you a hint. Just be careful not to close that console. |
| 19:04.46 | fatalerrors | wgosling: opengl vendor string is VMware !!!?? |
| 19:04.55 | fatalerrors | that's crazy |
| 19:05.24 | fatalerrors | that means nvidia drivers are not correctly installed i supose |
| 19:05.37 | tosky | fatalerrors: check it using /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 19:07.22 | fatalerrors | [ 1533.575] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] Setup complete |
| 19:07.22 | fatalerrors | [ 1533.575] (II) NVIDIA(0): [DRI2] VDPAU driver: nvidia |
| 19:07.40 | BluesKaj | fatalerrors, to check your nvidia driver , try glxinfo | grep OpenGL , the version string is the installed driver/module |
| 19:08.32 | BluesKaj | you may have to install mesa-utils , to use the glxinfo command |
| 19:08.50 | fatalerrors | OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0OpenGL vendor string: VMware, Inc. |
| 19:08.50 | fatalerrors | OpenGL renderer string: Gallium 0.4 on llvmpipe (LLVM 0x301) |
| 19:08.50 | fatalerrors | OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 9.0 |
| 19:09.06 | fatalerrors | vmware is not normal for me |
| 19:09.41 | BluesKaj | do you have VMware installed? |
| 19:09.47 | fatalerrors | no |
| 19:10.00 | fatalerrors | and i never tryed |
| 19:10.18 | tosky | fatalerrors, BluesKaj: wait, wait, vmware is normal, as VMWare owns Tungsten graphics, the maintainers of Mesa |
| 19:10.30 | BluesKaj | well fatalerrors you don't have the nvidia driver installed |
| 19:10.39 | tosky | fatalerrors: the problem is that you are using the llvmpipe driver (software rendering) |
| 19:10.59 | tosky | fatalerrors: as I told you, check /var/log/Xorg.0.log - the COMPLETE file, not just a single excerpt |
| 19:11.06 | tosky | check for lines like (EE) |
| 19:11.23 | tosky | you can paste in a pastebin |
| 19:11.35 | BluesKaj | look in additional driver ib in the kmenu>applications>system |
| 19:11.48 | fatalerrors | yes i get it |
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| 19:12.06 | fatalerrors | failed to initialise nvidia glx module |
| 19:12.46 | tosky | so something was wrong in the update of nvidia driver; you should have updated both the kernel driver and the xorg/glx driver |
| 19:13.02 | tosky | this is a distribution-specific problem |
| 19:13.08 | fatalerrors | in my distro it's all in a single package |
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| 19:13.18 | fatalerrors | yes i ask them |
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| 19:13.59 | tosky | to summarize: kwin did not enable graphical effects because you are using the basic llvmpime (software rendering) driver |
| 19:14.02 | BluesKaj | some distros don't use xorg.conf any longer , they let the user decide if he needs one |
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| 19:15.54 | BluesKaj | I'm on kubuntu and the nvidia driver I'm using is called nvidia-current , dunno about other distros if that module is the same name |
| 19:16.45 | BluesKaj | which in my casse is the NVIDIA 304.51 |
| 19:17.14 | fatalerrors | ok my fault... just forget to re-run : eselect opengl set nvidia |
| 19:17.25 | tosky | BluesKaj: when xorg.conf is not created, xorg autodetects the settings; if you need to use the closed nvidia driver, you need a minimal xorg.conf to specify that |
| 19:17.50 | BluesKaj | yeah , nvidia-xconfig |
| 19:18.07 | tosky | anyway, this has nothing to do with kwin :) |
| 19:18.19 | fatalerrors | yes kwin rocks |
| 19:18.31 | BluesKaj | well, his driver certainly does |
| 19:18.33 | fatalerrors | it's very fast even without opengl |
| 19:18.50 | fatalerrors | transparency is working and desktop grid |
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| 19:19.02 | esing | Hello |
| 19:19.04 | esing | Can I remap the start menu hotkey alt+f1 in KDE to the super win key? |
| 19:19.43 | fatalerrors | ok see you guys i have to restart x server |
| 19:22.10 | wgosling | esing: yes, but you need to use ksuperkey: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/ksuperkey?content=154569 |
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| 19:23.29 | esing | Thank you wgosling |
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| 19:25.15 | esing | Are the dependenceies the same on LMDE? |
| 19:25.16 | esing | sudo apt-get install gcc make libx11-dev libxtst-dev |
| 19:25.53 | wgosling | dunno. |
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| 19:57.11 | esing_ | Hello |
| 19:57.21 | esing_ | Can I install Gnome's magnifier on kde? |
| 19:58.10 | DaZ | you can try |
| 19:58.18 | esing_ | Okay |
| 19:58.21 | DaZ | but why not try kde magnifier instead? :v |
| 19:58.26 | esing_ | Already tried |
| 19:58.31 | DaZ | and? >: |
| 19:59.02 | esing_ | I want to zoom in the whole screen, not only see the zoom in a window |
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| 19:59.33 | DaZ | esing_: you can enable kwin effect to do this |
| 20:01.18 | DaZ | it's called zoom :v |
| 20:01.33 | esing_ | I have to try that out |
| 20:01.52 | esing_ | Unfortunaetly I hided the menu bar and can't bring it back in kmag :/ |
| 20:02.15 | Sho_ | esing_: ctrl+m |
| 20:02.15 | xdan779 | ctrl+m |
| 20:02.26 | esing_ | Oh, thanks |
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| 20:10.36 | esing_ | Wow, that is exactly what I wanted |
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| 20:10.57 | esing_ | So I guess that is the inbuilt KDE magnifier since it is within kde's options and not from kmag |
| 20:11.32 | lord_rob | rdieter: hi! do you remember me ? I had a problem with konqueror with webkit on this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1848036 (crash) ; here's the backtrace : http://pastebin.com/FbuxiHMV |
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| 20:12.07 | xdan779 | yes that is very interesting esing I did not know kwin could do that |
| 20:12.39 | esing_ | Is there a way that I can set the KDE magnifier (Kwin) to 'superkey+something'? :) |
| 20:13.42 | esing_ | Right now I put it to alt++ and alt+-, but I'd perfere superkey++/- so I could use alt++/- for something else |
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| 20:14.05 | philverb | Hi, I want to have Google Chrome use ktorrent to open magnet links while using KDE. I have looked on a number of occasions for a recipe, but so far none have worked. Is there a known recipe to make this possible? |
| 20:14.47 | xdan779 | I think so from systemsettings -> configure desktop effects -> all effects |
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| 20:15.17 | philverb | xdan779: Were you telling that to me about magnet links? |
| 20:15.44 | DaZ | yes, because there's nobody else on this channel ;_; |
| 20:16.17 | philverb | DaZ: Unnecessary. |
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| 20:17.02 | esing_ | xdan779: That's where I set alt++/- but I guess it doesn't support the superkey. I try to figure that tomorrow out |
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| 20:17.49 | lord_rob | back |
| 20:18.02 | xdan779 | oh sorry philverb, that was meant for esing |
| 20:18.05 | Moviuro | Hi all... It's becoming weird... KMail doesn't send my mail anymore... I just sent one and now, even after I restart it, it won't send what's in the "Send Box" (or whatever it is in English).... Archlinux, KDE 4.9.4.... |
| 20:18.28 | philverb | xdan779: Understood. There was just a bit of lag time without any new input to the channel, so I thought I'd ask. |
| 20:18.29 | Moviuro | no message, no warnings, nothing |
| 20:18.42 | xdan779 | philverb what are magnet links not a term I have heard before |
| 20:18.57 | DaZ | torrent stuff :v |
| 20:19.10 | philverb | xdan779: Filesharing protocol with a distinct URI pattern. |
| 20:19.19 | xdan779 | esing I beleive meta is how the superkey is referred as |
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| 20:20.42 | xdan779 | ahh philverb that would have to be a setting in chrome, does chrome even support opening files with a program yet |
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| 20:20.54 | esing_ | xdan779: Worked, appreciated much |
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| 20:22.22 | philverb | xdan779: It does, but there's some gconf stuff involved, along with /usr/bin/xdg-open. |
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| 20:23.29 | DaZ | i don't think chrome handles protocol handlers through xdg :v |
| 20:23.49 | DaZ | though, dunnolol |
| 20:23.49 | xdan779 | yea I am afraid chrome is out of my realm, I have used it before but out side of the menu setting I do not know anything else on how to configure it |
| 20:23.53 | DaZ | philverb: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=154031 try this |
| 20:26.55 | DaZ | eh, there's some content about making chromium open magnets |
| 20:27.11 | DaZ | but i'm way too lazy to tired to test them ;_; |
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| 20:39.42 | lord_rob | what a bug status "solved upstream" means ? That I need to upgrade to have that bug fixed right ? |
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| 20:41.20 | zenguy_pc | jalcine: hey are you the gut who posed a kio for google drive and dropbox? |
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| 20:41.58 | jalcine | zenguy_pc: yeah I'm working on it still |
| 20:42.08 | jalcine | https://github.com/jalcine/kio-googledrive |
| 20:42.14 | wgosling | lord_rob: it means that the bug was in a library the app depends on, and the bug was fixed in that library. |
| 20:42.15 | jalcine | I might rename it to be kio-cloudstorage |
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| 20:42.53 | zenguy_pc | on the page right now.. cool idea.. can't wait to see it implemented.. i haven't tried google drive yet but i might now |
| 20:43.04 | thiago | lord_rob: it means the bug is not in KDE, but in some other project that KDE uses |
| 20:43.19 | thiago | lord_rob: it does not mean the bug was solved at all. It just means that it's not in KDE code and KDE can do nothing about it. |
| 20:43.22 | zenguy_pc | if so , do it soon as not to confuese future adoptees/users |
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| 20:44.34 | zenguy_pc | it helps to add formerly 'project_name" so search engines can pick it up to for prosperity purposes. |
| 20:46.50 | lord_rob | I C |
| 20:48.00 | lord_rob | because I was about to report about to report a bug which was exactly reported yesterday, and marked as duplicate a long time ago |
| 20:48.47 | lord_rob | but with 4.9 the bug was still there |
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| 20:49.07 | lord_rob | should reread before typing enter :/ |
| 20:50.27 | jalcine | no problem |
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| 20:51.09 | lord_rob | the reported bug was exactly what I was talking about on irc yesterday here and #debian-kde |
| 20:51.15 | lord_rob | same crash |
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| 20:52.51 | philverb | Daz: Thanks, but my chrome setup *will* and *does* open magnets; it just refuses to open them with ktorrent instead of transmission. |
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| 21:01.06 | philverb | Everyone who was listening to my question about Magnet links: Thank you very much, but I found the answer I needed. It uses xdg-mime: http://askubuntu.com/questions/108925/how-to-tell-chrome-what-to-do-with-a-magnet-link |
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| 21:22.42 | regis | hi |
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| 21:24.54 | Achillion | evening |
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| 21:27.52 | Achillion | General KDE question: Has the whole issue with streaming media from mounted directories been addressed? When you click-mount something in dolphin, it uses smb:// or sftp:// type addresses which some software (e.g., VLC) don't recognise (if you double click a video file). Is there an easy way around this? I usually just sshfs mount a network share and go through that, but it would be nice to have something that just click-mounts in Dolphin |
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| 21:35.10 | Moviuro | Achillion: you cannot stream from ssh distant machines ? |
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| 21:39.02 | jalcine | Achillion: that's odd. |
| 21:39.04 | Achillion | If I mount using sftp://address in dolphin and then navigate to a media file and open with VLC, I get an error "VLC is unable to open the MRL". Dragon player tries to download an SFTP plugin but fails |
| 21:39.42 | Moviuro | Achillion: try fish:// |
| 21:39.53 | jalcine | I think that something like this is a bug in VLC, it should be using network streams when it detects a specific protocol |
| 21:40.04 | Moviuro | use fish:// |
| 21:40.09 | jalcine | at the same time, it might not just support streaming over that protocol. |
| 21:40.09 | jalcine | also |
| 21:40.35 | Torch | non-kde apps cannot use the kio_slaves |
| 21:40.35 | Moviuro | has got no issue using fish:// |
| 21:41.01 | jalcine | Torch: true.. |
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| 21:41.34 | Achillion | Torch: Yes. Which is why I'm asking if there's a way to have dolphin use mountpoints |
| 21:41.36 | jalcine | Though there has been work to get GIO and KIO support, if that even matters here. |
| 21:42.18 | jalcine | Achillion: if it's down via 'mount', it should be able to read it, that's in the userspace of the kernel |
| 21:42.53 | Achillion | using fish, a non kde program (VLC again) just starts a transfer to /var/tmp/ |
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| 21:53.39 | Achillion | I think I'll just stick to sshfs-ing |
| 21:57.07 | zenguy_pc | speakign of sshfs |
| 21:57.31 | zenguy_pc | i was thinking of submitting a brainstorm idea.. a native kde sshfs manager |
| 21:57.46 | zenguy_pc | there isn't a qt based one |
| 21:58.31 | zenguy_pc | sshfs is pretty neat and lots of people are experimenting with vps and local servers |
| 22:00.03 | FLHerne | I might use one of those :-) |
| 22:00.06 | jalcine | sounds like a good one. |
| 22:01.26 | zenguy_pc | Achillion: i think it's a bug only with kde since gnome doesn't have that problem.. i can do sshfs and regualar ssh in nautilus then stream no problem |
| 22:02.01 | zenguy_pc | use sftpman-gtk |
| 22:02.36 | zenguy_pc | pysshfs is lackluckster.. i was thinking about learning how to program to experiment with it |
| 22:02.59 | jalcine | What does sftpman-gtk do? |
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| 22:04.25 | zenguy_pc | You can use sftpman (an sshfs helper) to mount a remote system - accessible via SSH - to a local folder. |
| 22:04.25 | zenguy_pc | sftpman offers both a command-line tool (sftpman) and a GTK frontend (sftpman-gtk, see screenshot), each packaged separately. |
| 22:04.25 | zenguy_pc | With sftpman, you first setup (define) your remote filesystems and then you mount/unmount them easily (with one click/command). |
| 22:04.36 | zenguy_pc | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sftpman |
| 22:04.48 | zenguy_pc | https://github.com/spantaleev/sftpman-gtk |
| 22:05.00 | zenguy_pc | https://github.com/spantaleev/sftpman-gtk/raw/master/sftpman-gui.png |
| 22:05.35 | zenguy_pc | my issue with it is that it doesn't let you mount outside of /mnt/sshfs |
| 22:06.36 | jalcine | hmm |
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| 22:10.03 | zenguy_pc | sshfs is pretty easy though.. sshfs user@server:/remote/folder ~/mount_point |
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| 22:10.32 | zenguy_pc | i keep a few of those in my bash history |
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| 22:11.31 | danharibo | I had an alias for it |
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| 22:12.04 | zenguy_pc | ah i should do the same |
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| 22:14.03 | Achillion | zenguy_pc: When you mount something in nautilus gnome uses ~/.gvfs mountpoint, so any program can use that if they dont support network streams |
| 22:14.55 | zenguy_pc | Achillion: yeah i noticed that when using ncdu |
| 22:15.57 | Achillion | something like that would be nice in kde |
| 22:16.02 | Achillion | with dolphin |
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| 22:18.06 | zenguy_pc | ncdu or sshfs gui? |
| 22:18.12 | Achillion | sshfs gui |
| 22:18.24 | Achillion | something integrated in dolphin maybe |
| 22:18.35 | zenguy_pc | yeah kde is still the best though |
| 22:19.01 | zenguy_pc | i'd like native comic book preview support |
| 22:19.03 | Achillion | I like it. |
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| 22:19.31 | Achillion | Been my standard DE for the past year or so. But I like to mix it up |
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| 22:19.44 | zenguy_pc | dolphin is the most ful featured filemanger there is.. i tried nautilus 3 in xfce and they gutted it |
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| 22:19.59 | zenguy_pc | no buttons .. it a travesty |
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| 22:20.38 | Achillion | I like some of gnome3's stuff though. Like the popup chat-reply thing |
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| 22:20.59 | zenguy_pc | i was settign up dolhin the otehr day and i was experimenting with smal,medium,large icons and icons and no text etc.. i was see what would fit my workflow.. thats the best way to do things |
| 22:22.02 | Achillion | gotta run |
| 22:22.04 | Achillion | later |
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| 22:22.53 | zenguy_pc | bye |
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| 23:21.17 | esing2 | Iam used to switch firefox tabs with ctrl+tab-number ; e.g.: ctrl+2 - Is it possible to set that in kde? |
| 23:23.28 | Torch | esing2: in rekonq, the default is alt+1, alt+2 and so on |
| 23:23.45 | Torch | esing2: you can set which shortcut to use (including setting it to ctrl+n) in the settings |
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| 23:25.01 | esing2 | Torch: Do you mean the hotkey settings in KDE? (Didn't find options for that) |
| 23:26.01 | Torch | esing2: no, rekonq directly |
| 23:26.19 | Torch | esing2: menu -> configure rekonq |
| 23:26.33 | Torch | esing2: the menu's well hidden, that's some kind of hot thing to do these days |
| 23:27.23 | esing2 | Ye, I don't have rekonq installed. I will look again thoroughly through firefox settings, worst case I'd have to install a firefox addon to access its hotkeys |
| 23:27.55 | esing2 | Thanks for the hint |
| 23:28.14 | Torch | esing2: wait, what? you were talking about _FIREFOX_ settings? |
| 23:28.17 | Torch | esing2: on #kde? |
| 23:28.55 | esing2 | Torch: Yus, because I thought I would have to set those settings in kde globally |
| 23:29.02 | Torch | esing2: when you mentioned firefox i was assumung you were aiming for a behaviour LIKE firefox |
| 23:31.03 | Torch | esing2: i wouldn't know then. kde does have global shortcuts but those aren't meant for use cases like this |
| 23:31.19 | Torch | esing2: kde apps have their own shortcuts. and firefox not being a kde app, i can't tell how it manaages its shortcuts. |
| 23:32.00 | esing2 | Ye, but that information helps me. So I know that I have to get it in firefox right :) |
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| 23:49.36 | puchu | hi |
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| 23:50.20 | puchu | where can i find the that option in kde that disabled the popup like "close" when i hover with the mouse above the "x" in the top left conrer of a windows? |
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| 23:50.26 | puchu | windows/window |
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| 23:53.05 | zenguy_pc | when i group two or 4 windows together, can i make them into a grid/tiled "window" |
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| 23:54.49 | Torch | puchu: system settings -> workspace appearance -> window decorations -> configure buttons |
| 23:57.02 | puchu | Torch: thanks |
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