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| 06:41.38 | ashwin_ | how can i make desktop effects to default? |
| 06:42.11 | Shaan7 | ashwin_: in Desktop Effects you have a "Defaults" button at the bottom, use that |
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| 06:56.47 | ashwin_ | How can i make taskbar, lancelot menu etc transparent |
| 06:57.59 | ashwin_ | http://i.imgur.com/e9uvg.png |
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| 07:14.41 | shadeslayer | ashwin_: turn on compositing ? |
| 07:15.01 | shadeslayer | Alt + Shift + F12 |
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| 07:31.28 | PasNox | Hi |
| 07:31.45 | PasNox | In my Home i have a Applications folder where i put apps that are not packaged |
| 07:32.20 | PasNox | i would like them to be visible in the quick launch box ( alt +f2 ) |
| 07:32.25 | PasNox | any hint on how to do ? |
| 07:32.44 | PasNox | if i open a terminal i can executable easily by typing them, but in the quick thing they do not appear |
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| 08:10.17 | napoleon | hello!! |
| 08:11.03 | michaelg | PasNox, insert those executables in your kmenu using kmenuedit. krunner (the box of alt+F2) will find them afterwards. |
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| 08:19.27 | sivang | hello all! |
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| 08:20.57 | sivang | I'd like to find out how to make an open source project part of KDE etc |
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| 08:21.24 | sivang | and start a KuantifiedSelf umbrella project for others to add their stuff |
| 08:21.30 | sivang | who's the person to talk to? |
| 08:22.06 | sivang | I'd also need help in gfx and site design, as I'm no html/js/gfx guru |
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| 08:23.06 | sivang | mails -devel |
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| 08:29.28 | PasNox | michaelg: i don't want them in kmenu they are mostly console apps :/ |
| 08:29.49 | PasNox | btw, i'm trying to use kdevelop, and i can't find a way to open a qmake project ? |
| 08:30.42 | Jucato | if the directory is in $PATH, krunner would find them, but I think autocomplete/suggestion will not work |
| 08:31.02 | PasNox | it does not |
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| 08:31.13 | PasNox | i update the PATH in .profile or .bashrc file |
| 08:31.38 | Jucato | you'll need to restart your KDE session for changes like that to be visible to krunner I think |
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| 08:32.18 | PasNox | there is month i done it ;) |
| 08:32.24 | PasNox | each day i restart it's still not there ;) |
| 08:32.30 | PasNox | months* even years ? :p |
| 08:32.38 | Jucato | even if you complete the name of the executable? |
| 08:34.10 | PasNox | yes |
| 08:34.18 | PasNox | it works for apps in /usr/bin etc |
| 08:34.24 | PasNox | but not mine in my Applications folder |
| 08:34.38 | PasNox | if i start konsole / yakuake it find correctly |
| 08:35.16 | ompaul | PasNox: what beggars belief here the fact that you have updated both .profile and .bashrc |
| 08:35.39 | Jucato | maybe because it's .profile and not .bash_profile |
| 08:35.44 | Aj1789 | kk |
| 08:36.01 | Jucato | I have a .bash_profile that sources .bashrc (which includes the setting of $PATH) |
| 08:36.04 | muep | .profile can be used, especially if one does not use bash as the login shell |
| 08:36.23 | muep | but afaik it can be used even with bash |
| 08:36.24 | PasNox | ompaul: i did not updated both, jsut one of them but i don't remember wuich one |
| 08:36.47 | PasNox | Jucato: i taken care of that, i only edited existing files , dunno the correct name |
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| 08:37.47 | Jucato | can you check where $PATH is set? and if your .profile is calling .bashrc? |
| 08:38.54 | PasNox | let me check |
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| 08:40.21 | PasNox | Jucato: i have .profile which include .bashrc if it exists |
| 08:40.30 | PasNox | and no other files ( no .bash_profile etc ) |
| 08:40.54 | PasNox | this is the .profile file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265216 |
| 08:41.05 | gits1225 | Which is the best distro that works well with KDE? |
| 08:42.06 | Jucato | hm ... |
| 08:42.09 | PasNox | and the .bashrc file: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1265218 |
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| 08:42.47 | ompaul | gits1225: that depends, there is no right answer, it comes down to do you prefer apt or rpm or some other package manager or compile your own |
| 08:42.58 | PasNox | ah hm the .profile also check that bash is running .. so it may be my problem |
| 08:43.15 | PasNox | with krunner |
| 08:43.48 | Jucato | don't know really (also, doesn't ubuntu use DASH?). other than that check for $BASH_VERSION it's the same as mine. |
| 08:44.12 | Jucato | I'm not sure which one KDE would honor anyway: .profile/.bash_profile or .bashrc. |
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| 08:44.48 | PasNox | Jucato: i use kubuntu with bash |
| 08:45.08 | PasNox | pasnox@pasnox-desktop:~$ help |
| 08:45.09 | PasNox | GNU bash, version 4.2.24(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 08:45.22 | gits1225 | ompaul, it just want a system which won't break after updates. |
| 08:45.28 | PasNox | Jucato: the fact is that there is no way to specify that :( |
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| 08:45.40 | PasNox | gits1225: i liked Chakra for that |
| 08:45.48 | gits1225 | checking out... |
| 08:45.53 | PasNox | but i also dislike because it does not use apt ;) |
| 08:46.11 | PasNox | i dislike ubuntu / kubuntu for that - always pain to upgrade |
| 08:46.15 | ompaul | gits1225: that's hard, you won't be running the bleeding edge, I'd almost suggest debian stable |
| 08:46.20 | PasNox | but i'm still on becausei like apt ... |
| 08:46.21 | PasNox | xD |
| 08:46.45 | Jucato | you're a bunch of contradictions :P |
| 08:46.48 | PasNox | chakra tends to give cutting edge kde highly optimized |
| 08:46.54 | PasNox | Jucato: yep :) |
| 08:47.17 | gits1225 | ompaul, debain stable looks... ugly. I am downloading chakra atm to try out (but not optimistic as its a community project on archlinux an' all) |
| 08:47.39 | PasNox | gits1225: they have a chennel quite active, |
| 08:47.48 | PasNox | #chakra |
| 08:47.52 | Jucato | anyway, sorry no idea what's going on. I'm guessing KDE (or KDM to be exact?) should be reading .bashrc. everything's working for me here on Fedora. the only difference is that I have a .bash_profile instead of .profile |
| 08:48.15 | ompaul | PasNox: I bet you do lots of little alterations to your system, which then forces you to agree to rule "forty seven n", he who alters stuff does not have the right to a clean upgrade, upgrades are designed to move from version X to Y not version X+n mods to Y |
| 08:48.21 | PasNox | Jucato: ok then i will symlink the file to .bash_profile :D |
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| 08:49.06 | ompaul | PasNox: hacks as solutions lead to breaks, you see where this is going? |
| 08:49.08 | PasNox | ompaul: no never i alter the systeme ;) i use home path for custom binaries, else /opt |
| 08:49.10 | PasNox | :) |
| 08:49.17 | gits1225 | PasNox, looks sleek. But how stable is it? |
| 08:49.31 | PasNox | gits1225: for what i tested was good! |
| 08:49.37 | gits1225 | k |
| 08:49.39 | PasNox | but i'm not using it daily so the best is to try yourself |
| 08:49.53 | PasNox | ompaul: but i understand what u want to tell ;) |
| 08:51.07 | PasNox | Jucato: any hint on how to restart krunner without disconenct the session ? |
| 08:51.55 | Jucato | "kquitapp krunner" then run "krunner" again? |
| 08:52.04 | PasNox | ah let try, thanks |
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| 08:52.55 | PasNox | Jucato: xD working now ! |
| 08:52.57 | PasNox | thank you. |
| 08:53.08 | Jucato | well .. don't be so sure until the next reboot :) |
| 08:53.12 | PasNox | looks like kde code only check for .bash_profile and not .profile |
| 08:53.13 | PasNox | :( |
| 08:53.18 | PasNox | hehe |
| 08:53.19 | PasNox | yep |
| 08:53.20 | Jucato | you started it in an environment where $PATH is already set |
| 08:53.30 | Jucato | (in a shell I mean) |
| 08:53.38 | Jucato | so it probably sees that |
| 08:53.41 | PasNox | i will check that at next reboot |
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| 08:55.26 | PasNox | anything special to install to allow kdevelop to open qmake project ? |
| 08:55.33 | PasNox | i installed all package having kdevelop in |
| 08:55.40 | PasNox | and i still can't open qmake projects :/ |
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| 08:58.35 | PasNox | ok thanks |
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| 09:32.02 | Shamsher | hello sir , <shaan7> plz help me out to start the development in kde |
| 09:32.15 | rindolf | Shamsher: hi. |
| 09:32.24 | rindolf | Shamsher: there's more than one sir here. |
| 09:32.31 | rindolf | Shamsher: and there may be a few ladies too. |
| 09:32.41 | Shamsher | hi sir |
| 09:32.47 | rindolf | Shamsher: anyway, what do you need help with? |
| 09:33.27 | rindolf | Shamsher: did you see http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials ? |
| 09:33.28 | Shamsher | sorry |
| 09:33.29 | Shamsher | hi |
| 09:34.48 | Shamsher | i saw the kde develop book yesterdat |
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| 09:35.58 | Shamsher | i know c++ ,c ,python .plz suggest me how to start the development in kde |
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| 09:38.38 | rindolf | Shamsher: do you want to fix bugs? |
| 09:38.49 | rindolf | Shamsher: what are you having trouble with? |
| 09:40.53 | Shamsher | i want junior job in kde |
| 09:41.07 | rindolf | Shamsher: a junior job? |
| 09:41.35 | rindolf | Shamsher: maybe pick up bugs from http://bugs.kde.org/ and try to fix them. |
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| 09:46.31 | Shamsher_ | <rindoff> yes ,a junior job in kde |
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| 09:51.32 | Shamsher_ | hi |
| 09:51.41 | Shamsher_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:50.53 | milo_ | i need more desktop effects |
| 11:50.57 | milo_ | where can i get them |
| 11:51.00 | milo_ | and install safely |
| 11:53.26 | DaZ | i don't think there's more. |
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| 12:54.28 | Jucato | huh? |
| 12:54.57 | DaZ | lolwat |
| 12:55.26 | Jucato | if you're referring to what I think you're referring to, then that's a kernel thing |
| 12:55.37 | milo_ | oh , ok, thanks |
| 12:55.38 | milo_ | bye |
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| 12:55.46 | DaZ | most of the effects aren't really needed anyway :v |
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| 12:56.36 | ompaul | kdes I am still confused - your kernel and your kde are different animals and they all like the letter k kos it's kool or something :) (too late but there you go) |
| 12:57.16 | Jucato | ompaul: you are konfused |
| 12:57.31 | ompaul | Jucato: that was the joke I was hoping someone would make |
| 12:57.59 | Jucato | :) |
| 12:58.20 | ompaul | s/Jucato/Jukato ;-) |
| 12:58.22 | ompaul | hides |
| 12:58.29 | Jucato | heh I wish! |
| 12:58.49 | Jucato | too bad I'm legally Carlo and not Karlo/Karol, otherwise I'd wear that quite proudly ;) |
| 12:58.56 | Jucato | (well, Carlos, actually) |
| 12:59.59 | ompaul | hehe |
| 13:00.32 | ompaul | old man paul - not what the om stands for but close enough |
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| 13:01.14 | Jucato | hehehe |
| 13:02.06 | ompaul | I was coding when seven spaces were important, I've forgotten all cobol I ever learnt (at least I think/hope so) |
| 13:03.17 | Jucato | you mean seven characters? |
| 13:03.27 | Jucato | filenam.ext? |
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| 13:16.49 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Jucato you dufus no. In the days of [unched cards the first 6 characters where for denoting a comment/line number. The 7th was denoted whether the card had a continuation. The code began on the seventh line, even if these seven were unused which is much of the time. So they were mostly left blank. |
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| 13:18.02 | Jucato | ah. I wasn't around back then :D |
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| 13:34.03 | onebitxajax | hi to all |
| 13:34.25 | onebitxajax | is there a possibility to run .js in the sistem? like jsc in .net |
| 13:34.31 | onebitxajax | system* |
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| 13:41.42 | Inkane | onebitxajax: what exactyl do you want to do? |
| 13:42.24 | onebitxajax | Inkane: something like "jsemulator my.js" and get output |
| 13:42.51 | Inkane | you want to execute arbitrary javascript? |
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| 13:43.58 | Inkane | if so, you might consider using node |
| 13:44.37 | Inkane | onebitxajax: but as long as I don't know what kind of code you need to execute, it's hard to tell |
| 13:45.08 | onebitxajax | Inkane: work with string and print output |
| 13:45.10 | Inkane | i.e.: do you need DOM, or do you need bindings to kde, etc |
| 13:45.28 | Inkane | onebitxajax: well, with node you could use something like console.log() |
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| 13:46.21 | onebitxajax | Inkane: i already write all the code in javascript and i don't want to rewrite it in another language, so i am asking is there any way to run it. because it' very long conversione e cryption function |
| 13:46.42 | onebitxajax | and* |
| 13:47.01 | Inkane | hm, look at https://github.com/wdavidw/node-shell |
| 13:47.06 | onebitxajax | Inkane: it's run on a complicatted system, i need somethin "run on the fly " to test it |
| 13:47.30 | onebitxajax | yeaah so,ething like javascript shell |
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| 13:48.28 | Inkane | onebitxajax: kde also has support for Qtscript, which is afaik a subset of ECMAScript |
| 13:48.42 | onebitxajax | Inkane: how can i run it? |
| 13:48.52 | Inkane | depending on you're needs, you could probably use a plasmoid to run code |
| 13:49.21 | Inkane | onebitxajax: don't know, I just stumbed over it some time ago |
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| 13:52.03 | Jucato | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/JavaScript/Shells for a list of possible options |
| 13:52.32 | Jucato | https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Tools/Scratchpad if you have Firefox |
| 13:52.56 | Jucato | I don't know if kjs works |
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| 14:00.44 | onebitxajax | Jucato: THATS IT!!!! thanks very much |
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| 14:18.39 | BluesKaj | hey all |
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| 14:21.10 | Jucato | hiya |
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| 15:15.05 | payl21e | is kde gonna follow the freedesktop xdg directory specification? as defined here: https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders and here: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/latest/ar01s03.html ? |
| 15:15.22 | payl21e | or just keep on using a .kde? |
| 15:15.37 | payl21e | maybe with kde 5 this can be fixed |
| 15:18.02 | payl21e | i see the spec has people from kde involved but kde still dont follow itt |
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| 15:19.18 | Phr33d0m | probably what KDE thinks about this: http://goo.gl/fejGg |
| 15:21.10 | Jucato | yes there are plans. (but you make it sound like KDE is the only one not following that spec. I still have .gnome2 and .gconf in $HOME) |
| 15:22.40 | Inkane | payl21e: afaik both http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/XDG_Filesystem_Hierarchy and http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/KDE_Filiesystem_Hierarchy are kept for the time being |
| 15:23.07 | Jucato | also, there is no "kde 5" (if you mean a KDE software version 5 release). there will be a KDE Frameworks 5 (KF5) that will just be the KDE libraries and parts of the runtime. but that's separate from the workspace and application releases that will be based on KF5 |
| 15:24.17 | payl21e | Jucato: im not making it sound anything. gnome has already moved many apps as you can see in the first link. i didnt see any app outside .kde though. will it happen in one go? |
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| 15:24.43 | payl21e | Inkane: thanks. reading |
| 15:25.22 | Inkane | oh, managed to break the second link: http://techbase.kde.org/KDE_System_Administration/KDE_Filesystem_Hierarchy |
| 15:27.59 | Jucato | payl21e: that still depends. right now I don't think there isn't any "policy" for that yet. the priority is to get KDE Frameworks done first and apps will follow. from a programmer's point of view, there should be no changes (still same API for standard directories). how existing settings/data will be migrated is a different question |
| 15:28.14 | Jucato | sorry, "I don't think there is any policy for that yet." |
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| 15:29.22 | payl21e | from a user pov this is huge as it simplifies preserving user configuration a lot |
| 15:30.25 | payl21e | without having to preserve "10 year old data" http://ploum.net/post/184-cleaning-user-preferences-keeping-user-data |
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| 15:31.25 | Jucato | well, right now it's actually easier if you're considering *only* kde apps, because you don't have to search through other (GNOME, Xfce, etc) configs/directories. all you need is .kde/. but for an overall backup, it's still as messy as ever, because not all apps follow XDG anyway (gimp, mplayer, etc.) |
| 15:32.29 | Jucato | in any case, short answer: yes, eventually, but no schedule yet |
| 15:33.37 | payl21e | if you take a good look at https://live.gnome.org/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders you'll see that its not focused only on gnome. theres even kde apps in there. eg kdenlive |
| 15:34.00 | payl21e | people are filling bug reports for them |
| 15:34.51 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 15:37.17 | Jucato | whether they file "bug reports" (they are not bug reports) there doesn't really matter (or make sense) because gnome can't change some of those (unless they force the developers to hard code directories) because they aren't in gnome's source control. but anyway, there's really no discussion here |
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| 15:38.19 | payl21e | ... |
| 15:38.30 | Jucato | ??? |
| 15:39.10 | Jucato | let me rephrase that |
| 15:39.30 | Jucato | "kde (and apps that make use of kde libs) will get there eventually" |
| 15:40.14 | Jucato | (actually the plan is that kde apps will be using Qt's standard directories, which use XDG directories) |
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| 15:40.55 | payl21e | thats better. i often get the feeling many people turn discussions into a vs when this is supposed to be about collaboration |
| 15:42.14 | Jucato | just saying that kdenlive or vim or whatnot being there in that wiki doesn't really matter because gnome devs can't change that. if it were the XDG wiki, sure. but under "GnomeGoals" is just a bit amusing |
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| 15:44.50 | payl21e | its a wiki, any user can file a bugtracker issue and list it there |
| 15:45.22 | payl21e | some people use both kde and gnome you know.. |
| 15:45.49 | payl21e | Jucato: bye |
| 15:45.54 | Jucato | bye |
| 15:46.02 | Jucato | scratches head |
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| 16:41.57 | sharperguy | Hey is there a way to set it up to use ctl+alt+shift+arrow to move workspaces and also bring the active window to the new workspace? |
| 16:42.44 | Phr33d0m | there's no 'moving workspaces' feature afaik |
| 16:43.55 | sharperguy | oh :/ |
| 16:44.23 | sharperguy | It's something I use a lot on GNOME and also at work on windows with some workspace plugin I use |
| 16:44.33 | Inkane | sharperguy:do you mean virtual desktops with workspace? |
| 16:44.41 | sharperguy | Inkane, yeah |
| 16:45.04 | Inkane | well, that should be possible, as you can do it with epose via drag and drop |
| 16:45.21 | Inkane | however it might involve kwin scripting |
| 16:46.01 | Inkane | sharperguy: which version of KDE are you using? |
| 16:46.20 | sharperguy | Default in ubuntu 12.04 let me get the exact version |
| 16:46.59 | sharperguy | Hmm kde4 --version isnt working |
| 16:47.17 | Inkane | sharperguy: kwin --version |
| 16:47.34 | sharperguy | 4.8.5 |
| 16:48.02 | Inkane | hm, unfortunately too old. All the nice kwin scripting is in 4.9 |
| 16:48.48 | Inkane | and I'm not aware of another way to do this |
| 16:48.51 | Inkane | but maybe |
| 16:49.00 | sharperguy | hmm ok but I'll be upgrading eventually |
| 16:49.01 | Inkane | someone else knows another way |
| 16:49.27 | sharperguy | I'm just surprised it's not a build in feature since its pretty common, but I can put up without it |
| 16:49.33 | sharperguy | KDE4 is the best DE for me at the moment |
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| 16:49.49 | Inkane | or wait |
| 16:50.00 | Inkane | do you only want to move the active window or all windows? |
| 16:50.02 | Phr33d0m | moving workspaces is completely useless imo |
| 16:50.14 | sharperguy | just the active window |
| 16:50.29 | sharperguy | It's more because its the easiest way to get a window to another virtual desktop |
| 16:50.38 | Inkane | wait, that's possible, I have this setting bound to some keys |
| 16:50.57 | Inkane | let me look it pu |
| 16:50.57 | Phr33d0m | right click on the window's task bar --> move to desktop |
| 16:50.58 | Inkane | *up |
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| 16:51.22 | sharperguy | Phr33d0m, yeah I can do that although not with windows that dont use system title bar |
| 16:51.29 | sharperguy | but its just not as quick |
| 16:52.14 | Phr33d0m | sharperguy ALT+F3 --> hit 'D' --> hit '#' (where # = number of workspace) |
| 16:52.28 | Phr33d0m | you can do it all with one hand ;) |
| 16:52.42 | sharperguy | hmm lol ok i guess that helps a bit |
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| 16:53.24 | Inkane | sharperguy: in systemsettings > shortcuts > kwin > move window a workspace left/right/up/down |
| 16:53.35 | Inkane | you can configure the key to do it |
| 16:53.48 | Inkane | and assign you're preferred key combination to it |
| 16:54.14 | Inkane | the text above is probably wrong, because I reverse translated it from German to English |
| 16:54.17 | Inkane | but you should be able to find it |
| 16:54.20 | sharperguy | Oh maybe it's only in 4.9 because I don't see a shortcuts option in system setting |
| 16:54.48 | sharperguy | oh no wait i found it the search was confusing me |
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| 16:55.41 | Inkane | see the line above |
| 16:55.41 | Inkane | here it's in the first row, the fifth item |
| 16:56.00 | sharperguy | Theres no kwin in there though |
| 16:56.34 | Inkane | sharperguy: there should be a drop down menu where you can find kwin |
| 16:56.51 | Inkane | in global settings |
| 16:56.58 | Inkane | on the left side |
| 16:57.06 | Inkane | and then choose the component |
| 16:57.09 | Inkane | and select kwin |
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| 16:57.28 | Inkane | sharperguy: ^^^ |
| 16:58.39 | sharperguy | ok that seemed to work |
| 16:58.40 | sharperguy | nice |
| 16:58.56 | Inkane | you're welcome |
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| 16:59.44 | sharperguy | Maybe that option should be in the Workspace Behavior list of shortcuts? |
| 17:00.51 | sharperguy | Or maybe I'm just used to GNOME where if the setting isn't obvious it doesnt exist :) |
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| 19:40.24 | scummos | can KDE display windows from multiple desktops at once? probably not I guess, but maybe I missed something? :) |
| 19:40.35 | scummos | multiple virtual desktops, that is |
| 19:41.13 | Inkane | scummos: you mean you have multiple virtual desktops, and want the same window on all of them? |
| 19:41.45 | scummos | no, I mean I have windows A, B on desktop 1 and C, D on desktop 2, and I want to click something so it displays all four |
| 19:42.23 | Inkane | just to be sure, desktop = virtual desktop? |
| 19:42.31 | scummos | yes |
| 19:42.33 | scummos | sorry |
| 19:43.00 | Inkane | there's a kwin effect for this |
| 19:43.26 | scummos | hmm, but it does sort of an overview for all desktops, doesn't it |
| 19:43.27 | Inkane | do you have more virtual desktops open than the two you want to display? |
| 19:43.35 | scummos | yes, like, 6 |
| 19:43.48 | Inkane | ah, that is more difficult |
| 19:43.58 | Inkane | are you using KDE 4.9 or higher? |
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| 19:44.04 | scummos | yep |
| 19:44.12 | scummos | 4.9.1 currently |
| 19:44.29 | Inkane | okay, then it could be possible to use a kwin script as a workaround |
| 19:44.38 | Inkane | however I'm currently not sure how to do it |
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| 19:44.46 | scummos | okay |
| 19:45.22 | scummos | I'll probably try it some day, but for now it's not important enough to get into kwin scripting :) |
| 19:45.28 | scummos | thanks for the info! |
| 19:45.42 | Inkane | scummos: you could also do a feature request |
| 19:46.08 | scummos | Inkane: yeah, I could, but that would be good tiling support then :)) |
| 19:46.25 | scummos | I think I would just write the other thing myself if it's possible with scripting |
| 19:46.39 | Inkane | scummos: https://github.com/mgottschlag/kwin-tiling/tree/tiling-script/kwin/scripts/tiling |
| 19:46.51 | Inkane | afaik it already works |
| 19:47.06 | scummos | ah cool |
| 19:47.09 | scummos | did you test it? |
| 19:48.07 | Inkane | yes, some time ago |
| 19:48.22 | Inkane | it's not xmonad or awesome, but better than nothing |
| 19:48.41 | scummos | yeah, I usually use awesome |
| 19:49.02 | scummos | and from time to time I'm wondering how much awesome I can get out of KDE :)) |
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| 19:49.40 | Inkane | it's a nice window manager, but kwins window rules are most of the time powerful enough for em |
| 19:49.42 | Inkane | *%e |
| 19:49.44 | Inkane | *me |
| 19:50.30 | CerebrosuS | Hey guys |
| 19:50.45 | CerebrosuS | tried to compile a fresh kate git repo |
| 19:50.57 | CerebrosuS | for adding a feature or more solving a bug |
| 19:50.59 | scummos | Inkane: the tiling is very powerful, altough I miss some of KDEs features -- KDE with awesome's tiling capabilities would just be perfect :) |
| 19:51.04 | CerebrosuS | but i got a compile error |
| 19:51.05 | CerebrosuS | http://cxg.de/_4dc9b7.htm |
| 19:51.29 | CerebrosuS | anyone can confirm this problem on actual master of the public repo? |
| 19:51.32 | scummos | CerebrosuS: what version of kde are you compiling against? |
| 19:51.34 | scummos | wait, I'll try |
| 19:51.35 | CerebrosuS | <- ArchLinux KDE 4.9.2 |
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| 19:53.15 | scummos | Inkane: do you happen to know where kwin scripts are stored (I'm wondering how to add those from the repo)? |
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| 19:53.35 | Inkane | uhm, kwin has some import option for them |
| 19:53.44 | scummos | CerebrosuS: yeah, same issue for me |
| 19:53.47 | scummos | Inkane: ah cool, thanks |
| 19:54.08 | CerebrosuS | hm ok thx... |
| 19:54.11 | Riley88 | hey guys i could use some help on themeing ive just installed kde-meta on arch linux but i cant for the life of me figure out how to change the system them.. |
| 19:54.31 | CerebrosuS | Riley88: ? |
| 19:54.39 | Riley88 | i went to desktop theme but they only change the panel stuff and not stuff like file manager background |
| 19:54.41 | CerebrosuS | Don't know what you mean? |
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| 19:55.07 | scummos | CerebrosuS: 164e2f2bcd4 broke it apparently |
| 19:55.15 | Inkane | Riley88: system settings should have all settings you could think of |
| 19:55.17 | Riley88 | like on xfce for example when u change the theme it changes everything |
| 19:55.20 | Inkane | and some you can't think of |
| 19:55.21 | CerebrosuS | Riley88: u logout and login again? |
| 19:55.26 | Riley88 | yes |
| 19:55.47 | Riley88 | and i cant find a good window boarder lol |
| 19:55.56 | CerebrosuS | i also got archlinux and actual kde... but i can change everything without problems |
| 19:56.17 | scummos | CerebrosuS: you can revert that one |
| 19:56.23 | Riley88 | does it change stuff like dolphins background? |
| 19:56.28 | CerebrosuS | scummos: will have a look and open a bug report thx |
| 19:56.30 | yopher | Riley88: SystemSettings -> Application Appearances |
| 19:56.40 | Riley88 | i just want a good all around dark theme lol |
| 19:57.04 | CerebrosuS | ah... don't tried that, .. got most the standard theme |
| 19:57.09 | Riley88 | im not seing aplication apearence |
| 19:57.17 | CerebrosuS | dark is ever a problem on editing fields and so on |
| 19:57.22 | Riley88 | only workspace |
| 19:58.04 | CerebrosuS | Riley88: http://www.google.de/imgres?q=system+settings+kde&um=1&hl=de&sa=N&biw=1220&bih=1100&tbm=isch&tbnid=14C1GGMrmpeaJM:&imgrefurl=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:System_Settings,_KDE_4.5.png&docid=__gqI_RlqxSLqM&imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/System_Settings,_KDE_4.5.png&w=948&h=767&ei=wN5xUMzNL4XE4gSaqYGABQ&zoom=1&iact=rc&dur=361&sig=102950675760114789242&page=1&tbnh=142&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=30&ved=1t: |
| 19:58.06 | CerebrosuS | 429,r:0,s:0,i:69&tx=99&ty=49 |
| 19:58.08 | CerebrosuS | ups |
| 19:58.22 | yopher | its just above workspace? under common appearance and behavoir |
| 19:58.50 | CerebrosuS | http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/bc/System_Settings%2C_KDE_4.5.png |
| 19:58.55 | Riley88 | yea i see it but i still cant find a good window boarder lol |
| 19:59.07 | Riley88 | i just got the scheme changed |
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| 20:04.54 | Riley88 | thx yopher |
| 20:05.26 | Riley88 | brb going to test something |
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| 20:21.35 | CerebrosuS | thx scummos... made a bug report and a patch for this... |
| 20:22.54 | scummos | if you have a patch you can also submit it to reviewboard, CerebrosuS |
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| 20:23.51 | CerebrosuS | don't want to commit anything and it is just a small thing... a bug entry should made it... |
| 20:24.04 | CerebrosuS | i the developers have a look before 2013 :-P |
| 20:24.13 | CerebrosuS | +will |
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| 20:24.51 | scummos | reviewboard is far more convenient for reviewping patches |
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| 20:25.02 | scummos | *reviewing |
| 20:26.44 | CerebrosuS | but why? shouldn't have bug reports much more priority? |
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| 20:27.11 | CerebrosuS | the reviewboard is just for reviewing code under developers... |
| 20:27.18 | scummos | bug reports are "this thing happens and somebody should fix it" |
| 20:27.26 | scummos | reviewboard is "i fixed this, is the fix ok?" |
| 20:27.57 | scummos | reviewboard is fine for external contributors too |
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| 20:28.20 | CerebrosuS | i had posted severall things to the review board... and nothing happend for a long time... whatever as it was just a new feature... |
| 20:28.40 | scummos | oh well :D |
| 20:29.33 | CerebrosuS | yearh.. i'm the maintainer from kmahjongg... so i am familiar with the review board |
| 20:29.41 | scummos | ah, cool |
| 20:31.29 | scummos | I'm the maintainer of kdev-python, so I'm somewhat familiar with the kdevelop/kate environment, and I think most people prefer patches on reviewboard and unsolved bugs on the tracker |
| 20:31.42 | scummos | but whatever, it doesn't really matter :D |
| 20:32.15 | CerebrosuS | ok then... next time i will give it a try on the reviewboard :-) |
| 20:32.20 | scummos | :)) |
| 20:32.58 | CerebrosuS | maybe it was just a problem of the svn.reviewboard and kdegames :-) |
| 20:34.01 | scummos | from my experience simple patches are often reviewed within few days... more complex features might take a while... but in that case I like to annoy the mailing list and/or IRC channel until someone reviews it :) |
| 20:34.18 | scummos | but of course that might be very different in other projects |
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| 20:36.45 | scummos | confesses that he doesn't even know how to play mahjongg :D |
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| 20:38.08 | CerebrosuS | no problem... no one have to know... :-) |
| 20:39.16 | CerebrosuS | s/have/has? ...seufz* my english is so bad... |
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| 20:44.46 | scummos | has |
| 20:44.55 | scummos | you're from germany too? :) |
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| 20:48.44 | tnorth_ | hi there |
| 20:50.11 | tnorth_ | Is there a way to delete messages on the server (POP) using a filter ? (ie. move to a folder, and remove from server.) |
| 20:50.18 | tnorth_ | (using Kmail of course) |
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| 20:51.46 | CerebrosuS | yes scummos |
| 20:54.12 | scummos | me too |
| 20:56.12 | CerebrosuS | cool... now bedtime |
| 20:56.14 | CerebrosuS | :-D |
| 20:56.19 | CerebrosuS | tomorrow will be hard day |
| 20:56.24 | CerebrosuS | thx again for your help |
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| 22:12.30 | gurrag | Where do you configure Chinese input [ibus] in KDE? |
| 22:12.45 | gurrag | is it anywhere in `System Settings`? |
| 22:13.26 | Qchmqs | i don't think kde support that , no ? |
| 22:14.32 | gurrag | I just found it on my machine, Kubuntu, menu->applications->system->"input method framework" |
| 22:15.01 | scummos | Qchmqs: doesn't Qt support such stuff usually |
| 22:16.43 | Qchmqs | yeah , now i remmemer, Qt support them , but KDE doesn't , it uses some external modules taht you can simply install |
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| 22:39.01 | tripleslash | hello |
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| 23:46.35 | graft | hey, how do i get kdm to stop messing up my krandr setup? |
| 23:46.46 | graft | every time i log out and log in, kdm puts my monitors in clone mode |
| 23:46.48 | graft | it is so dumb |
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| 23:53.45 | Hyper_Eye | I'm attempting to move some windows around using a kwinscript written in javascript. I am attempting to move them by setting the properties of a clients geometry. The scripting reference shows this to be a read-write property. I am checking the values after I set them but my changes do not seem to be applied. Am I approaching this incorrectly? |
