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00:44.00craigevilthought i would give apper another try, its pretty sweet, the search could use some work but in general its sweet
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01:48.34SmilexI'm wondering, the blender svn repository ebuild file uses variables like ESVN_USER. Are these provided with eSvn the KDE Development Tool?
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03:12.51I_eat_kawfish2Maybe someone can help. I am interested in modifing the code for ark to scratch a personal itch. I tried to do this a year back but couldn't get it to build correctly. How to I go about building a kde project?
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03:37.01AdapteeI_eat_kawfish2: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Example
03:38.39AdapteeI_eat_kawfish3: or just follow the steps here http://paste.kde.org/501140/
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03:40.18I_eat_kawfish3I'll give the second one a go. Last time I couldn't get modules(?) for the different archieves to work with the compiled program. -Thanks. I'll let you know if I have troubles.
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03:58.18ahoneybunhey
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04:03.18ahoneybunhello graft
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04:05.46ahoneybunhello kjh
04:06.01ahoneybunhello kjh:
04:06.34kjhahoneybun: Hi
04:06.51ahoneybunkjh: first one to say it back :)
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04:10.43liznevadaAPPER issue persist even atfer sudo yum groupinstall "KDE Software Compilation"
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10:52.53olavggdo anyone know how I can delete the sftp cache in dolphin?
10:55.02rindolfolavgg: I don't know how to do that off-hand.
10:55.07rindolfolavgg: did you try refreshing?
10:55.37olavggyes
10:55.59rindolfolavgg: interesting.
10:57.22olavggI had to delete some data, and the sftp client in dolphin doesn't support recursive delete. So I logged in with another client and deleted the stuff. But the dolphin sftp client doesn't remove the deleted items from the view
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10:57.55rindolfolavgg: hmmm... curious.
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11:21.23Rasibecause in 4.9 beta the dialog crashes
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11:23.17_kdepepoRasi, recompile third-party decorations (QtCurve etc.)
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11:41.52BluesKajHey all
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13:49.05schivguys..trillian has started to use skypekit for standalone skype support. i think kde could use it too. i'm not aware of further licensing restrictions aside from registering to use it.
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14:35.26Anpuhi, is there some tutorial and / or doumentation how to make a plugin for KRunner? I m particularly interested in making a KRunner plugin that will search one website (serbian ubuntu loco community)
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14:37.01cb400fmaybe you don't need a runner for that, but just a webshortcut
14:37.49Anpuweb shortcut? I dont think we understood, I d like to search their site for example just I can search wiki afaik in krunner
14:38.04cb400fAnpu: look at systemsettings -> account details -> web shortcuts
14:38.05Anpusomething like ubuntu is doing with lens and gnome shell with their system
14:38.13Anpuaha ok, let me check
14:38.21cb400fAnpu: a webshortcut is like if you do: alt+f2 -> wp:kde
14:38.25mdemeyerAnpu: there are tutorials for that on techbase.kde.org
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14:39.04Anpucb400f: exactly that, thanks
14:39.25Anpumdemeyer: I found only for Python I think http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/PythonRunner
14:39.49Anpubut ok guess I can learn a bit of Python and with sample code could understand it
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14:40.53mdemeyerAnpu: http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Plasma/AbstractRunner
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14:41.40Anpumdemeyer: thanks!
14:41.55mdemeyerno problémo :)
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15:11.49MirrakorCan anyone give me a clue? My Main IMAP-Folder in kmail is beeing "refreshed" for the last two hours now, all the other folders work fine, also two other accounts (1 IMAP, 1 POP3) work, just the main folder of my first IMAP-account ..
15:12.31fayazMirrakor: finish your question
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15:20.02MunKyI have two screens and a default panel for each screen. The programs show up (in the task manager) on either screen. usually the main screen has more programs on it. Is there any way to keep the programs in the panel of the screen that they are shown in?
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15:21.35MunKyinstead of having duplicates
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15:26.46MunKyhttp://tinypic.com/r/f5dilt/6
15:27.42MunKyor http://i50.tinypic.com/f5dilt.jpg
15:30.12mdemeyerMunKy: right click -> Task Manager Settings -> Filters
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15:30.31mdemeyerOn the 'General' page
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15:32.46MunKymdemeyer: thanks, didn't think it was possible
15:33.17mdemeyerWelcome to kde, EVERYTHING is possible ;)
15:34.31MunKyyeh, it was pretty annoying
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15:42.21omeringenis it possible to change folder views to "details" for folder view widget ?
15:44.31mdemeyeromeringen: I don't think so
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15:50.11darthanubiskmail is showing two local folders, one is gray  though. I can't seem to purge the gray local folder
15:52.12Sonderbladeanyone know if there is a guide somewhere to read if you want to start with kde development?
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15:54.28JLPSonderblade: http://www.flossmanuals.net/kde-guide/
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15:55.08JLPSonderblade: and http://techbase.kde.org/
15:55.50Sonderbladeperfect, thanks
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19:06.46n0sqi changed from mandriva to ubuntu and got my mail imported into kmail but the mail accounts don't show up in the receiving account list - is there an automated way to import the list or do i have to manually do this?
19:07.29n0sqhaven't had much luck finding anything with google so far
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20:10.09liznevadasup guys
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20:12.29liznevadai notice a feature on system settings called "instant messaging and voip" and find out that requires telepathy, heres a list of my distro avaliable packages: http://pastebin.com/wkiHbuGN
20:12.46thiagowhat distro is that?
20:13.08liznevadaFedora 17 x64 KDE
20:13.16thiagoask in #fedora then
20:13.50liznevadafedora is a Gnome3 based distro, no use to ask there
20:14.07thiagothey know about the packages
20:14.23Sho_the right channel is #fedora-kde
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20:14.48thiagowe can't help you with packages in #kde
20:14.51Sho_and fedora isn't a "gnome3-based distro", they have both Gnome, KDE and other spins available
20:15.04thiagoif you want to ask a question that doesn't require knowledge about packages, we can try to help you
20:15.38Sho_liznevada: the ktp* packages are kde telepathy
20:16.46liznevadathanks Sho_ glad to find a little help now and then.
20:17.18Sho_yeah, but in the future please do ask fedora packaging-related questions in #fedora-kde
20:17.40liznevadaproblem is aside of Kevin, that channel is pretty much barren
20:18.03Sho_that's not really true - rdieter, jreznik, ltinkl, me and others help there regularly
20:18.32liznevadaforgot about Sho_ using KDE and fedora
20:18.38liznevadasry bout that
20:18.47Sho_many people do
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21:29.51XVampireXHey, my windows partition won't mount with dolphin in kde 4.9
21:31.10thiagowhy not?
21:31.46seiflotfydoes anybody have alex fiestas number
21:31.49seiflotfyplease ping me
21:32.40XVampireXthiago: no idea
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21:32.46XVampireXdoing it manually now...
21:32.58thiagoXVampireX: it doesn't give you an error message?
21:33.05XVampireXNot really
21:33.19XVampireXif I open it in a new tab
21:33.28XVampireXthe location is empty
21:34.00thiagoyou click on it, then what happens?
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21:34.14XVampireXspeaking of tabs, good work on tabs and labels (places/devices/etc...)
21:34.43rindolfXVampireX: hi.
21:34.57XVampireXwhat's up? :)
21:35.10rindolfXVampireX: I'm looking for a new job.
21:35.19XVampireXOh, same same
21:35.22rindolfXVampireX: in the meanwhile I got a PHP gig.
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21:35.44XVampireXWait, rindolf... uhm
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21:35.50XVampireXfish no? :P
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21:35.55rindolfXVampireX: Fish?
21:36.10XVampireXYou're shlomi no?
21:36.15rindolfXVampireX: yes, I am.
21:36.20XVampireXah
21:36.24rindolfXVampireX: /whois rindolf could tell you that.
21:36.34XVampireXDuh, I just forgot your IRC nick
21:36.53XVampireXAnyway, any help on with dolphin and mounting the windows partition? :D
21:37.05rindolfXVampireX: no idea about that.
21:37.09XVampireXoh well
21:37.13rindolfXVampireX: can you mount it from the command line?
21:37.20XVampireXprobably
21:37.28rindolfXVampireX: if so - can you browse it after it is mounted?
21:37.32XVampireXI just see that it probably doesn't want to mount whatever is not mounted...
21:39.37XVampireXI need to figure out how to mount it not via fstab :P
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21:40.04XVampireXat some point, ubuntu was cooler, less user friendly and you had to do things manually so you learned... but now I forgot
21:40.08Guest70854Is anyone here?
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21:44.04XVampireXhas a very bad feeling :D
21:44.12XVampireXbe back soon
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21:47.14XVampireXwell now it works after a restart
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21:51.47floogy_Hi, I got some old websites I maintain with quanta+. Now I noticed, that I could no longer upload files by sftp.
21:51.55floogy_http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:Sr_s0-fYKC0J:forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/network-internet/457766-ssh-issue-11-4-a.html+quanta+sftp+doesn%27t+work&cd=5&hl=de&ct=clnk&client=ubuntu
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21:52.15thiagotry fish
21:52.23thiagofish instead of sftp
21:52.42floogy_But there is no possibility to set sftp or fish in front of the folder
21:53.16floogy_or so. There is only a drop down list with file, ftp, webdav, webdavs
21:53.26floogy_It worked with file
21:53.37floogy_But that works no longer
21:54.11floogy_Do I have to configure fish for kde as the default file protocol ??
21:54.44floogy_I'm on ubuntu lucid lynx
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21:55.47floogy_thiago, yes, but I don't know how to apply it, and I'm wondering why that happened the last few month. I changed nothing beside regular updates
21:55.59floogy_At least I guess
21:58.07floogy_What's the kde control center now? I didn't find kcontrol (I'm using mostly gnome)
21:58.23Sho_floogy_: System Settings
21:58.31Sho_(systemsettings is the executable name)
22:01.20floogy_Sho_, thanks, yes I didn't worked with kde for a long time. So how can I switch the default scp to fish instead sftp
22:02.02Sho_floogy_: Define "default scp"? Whether you enter sftp:// or fish:// (and you should really use the former) is your own choosing, no?
22:03.29floogy_As I said, in quanta there is no selection sftp:// fish:// only a dropdown with file (which worked until now) ftp and webdav(s)
22:03.58floogy_I guess in konqueror I can type it as you wrote in the adressbar
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22:04.10Sho_I'm sure you can enter an URL into Quanta's file dialogs, too
22:04.31Sho_note btw that Quanta has never been ported to KDE 4, so System Settings won't do much good there anyway since it's a KDE 3 app
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22:10.26floogy_http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/401/bildschirmfotouploadpro.png/
22:11.42Sho_floogy_: stupid coding, then
22:12.00floogy_Sho_, yes, I think you're right the systemsettings are only for kde 4
22:12.14floogy_But it worked until now ;(
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22:12.53messertingOn my work computer, when I do "konsole -e ssh -Y -A host" and then open a new tab in that console, I stay on that host (ie. the new tab is not a local tab). On my home computer it is not so. Any way to make it behave as my work computer?
22:13.25Sho_try the profile option to use the same folder as the previous tab for new tabs
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22:14.19messertingSho_: I had "start in same directory as current tab" checked
22:14.39Sho_that's the only thing that came to mind, sorry
22:15.23floogy_Sho_ Now I get: Quanta Warning: me@myserver.com:12222/ seems to be unaccessible.
22:15.23floogy_Do you want to proceed with upload?
22:15.41messertingwell, thanks anyway
22:15.50floogy_But I can access the folder with gnome over sftp://
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22:17.08Sho_maybe instead of using this upload profile thing just open the files from sftp:// directly
22:17.09floogy_If I press then continue I get: Cannot create folder
22:17.09floogy_me@myserver.com:12222/home/me/www/docs/www.myserver.com/.
22:17.09floogy_Check that you have write permission in the parent folder or that the connection to
22:17.09floogy_://@
22:17.09floogy_is valid.
22:17.40floogy_but it has permissions for 'me'
22:17.42Sho_for longer pastes please use http://paste.kde.org btw
22:17.50floogy_ok
22:18.48floogy_drwxr-xr-x 11 me www-data
22:19.01Sho_maybe instead of using this upload profile thing just open the files from sftp:// directly
22:20.54floogy_Hm, I don't know how. I managed to drop by dragging the Icon to nautilus showing that folder by the sftp connection, but that's not that comfortable (it moved the file, maybe I have to press sgift or ctrl while gragging)
22:21.01floogy_dragging
22:21.09Sho_i assume t here's file -> open
22:21.35Sho_sorry, I don't have Quanta here (keep in mind this is ancient code and basically a dead app)
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22:25.52floogy_Sho_, thank you. I think I'll try to set up ftp for that site, because all other projects are working with ftp. So I assume I'll have no issues with that then.
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22:27.54floogy_Sho_, I guess there are no plans and developers working on quanta+ again, to migrate it to kde 4+
22:28.45floogy_I liked somewhat it's VPL editor etc.
22:29.08Sho_floogy_: Actually there is an in-progress next-gen Quanta based on kdevplatform (the library also powering KDevelop 4)
22:29.13C_KodeHi. I just installed KDE in Fedora 17 and I get the following when I try to login.  Call to lnusertemp failed (temporary directories full?). Check your installation..  I've already checked the permissions on /tmp, /var/tmp, and ~/.kde and they all seem fine.
22:29.20Sho_floogy_: but as far as  I know no one is currently working on finishing it
22:29.23Sho_needs some new blood
22:29.37Sho_floogy_: would be cool, because kdevplatform is very good
22:29.52Sho_C_Kode: try #fedora-kde
22:30.01C_KodeSho_, Thanks.
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22:31.32floogy_Sho_, I didn't find a project site for that approach, but one or two years ago I read some stuff on the net for using kdevplatform or similar for quanta+
22:32.29floogy_With precise, there will be no longer the possibility to maintain my old projects with quanta+
22:32.46Sho_precise?
22:33.23floogy_http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/Precise_Pangolin
22:33.38Sho_i see
22:33.42Sho_doesn't use Ubuntu
22:34.30floogy_Sho_, are you using RHEL or SLES?
22:35.07Sho_floogy_: No, I use Fedora (which actually does still offer Quanta+ and has no plans to drop it, because one of the Fedora KDE team leaders uses it himself)
22:35.30floogy_Hm, interesting
22:35.42thiagoRHEL and SLES are server distros
22:35.48thiagowith support contracts, usually
22:35.56Sho_some people also use RHEL on desktops, but basically yeah
22:36.53floogy_yes, thiago
22:38.03floogy_What webdev ide are you guys using?
22:38.52Sho_floogy_: I just use KDevelop which has great support for PHP and Python ... and for HTML/CSS/JS I'm ok with it acting as a good text editor
22:41.28floogy_Ok, I see. I'm interested a bit in aptana suite, but I didn't yet make up my mind, though.
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23:43.48freedahow do i set the DEFAULT wallpaper mode to stretched/cropped?
23:44.11freedaso that when i drag a photo to the desktop and say "set as wallpaper" it stretches and crops it?
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23:48.16freeda?
23:49.35freedahello? is this thing on?
23:49.58freedais anybody home?
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23:51.24ompaulfreeda: assuming something recent as your KDE - try Right Click on Desktop choose folder view settings then Desktop Settings
23:51.44freedakde 4.7, opensuse 12.1
23:51.56ompaulfreeda: that should be ok
23:52.18Sho_freeda: it should reuse the last mode, if it doesn't it's a bug you should file
23:52.29freedait does not reuse the last mode
23:53.00Sho_freeda: then ask someone using 4.8.4 to confirm (or upgrade and test yourself) and then it's bugfiling time
23:53.13freedaSho_: right - thank you
23:53.32Sho_freeda: thank you (for the trouble, if it turns out you need to file a bug)
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23:54.48Guest54089What is the best Power-DNS that I can use as a VPN?
23:55.16Sho_freeda: Also if you end up filing the bug, mind putting hein@kde.org in the CC list? I don't have access to KDE atm to check 4.8.4 myself, but it sounds like something I'd be interested in fixing
23:55.37freedaSho_: sure, i'll do that
23:55.42Sho_thanks
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23:56.38ompaulGuest54089: I don't often say things like this but: does not compute   - and openvpn is the best vpn tool I know read their faq on their web page for easy and more complex set ups
23:57.31ompaulGuest54089: dns is nothing to do with a vpn and these are more distro questions than kde questions unless you have a qt front end for things (I think there is one for openvpn but not 100% sure)
23:58.28ompaulGuest54089: you may try this as a front end for vpns, personally I do them on the command line and have done for years:  kvpnc

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