00:03.03 | heraclitus_ | nabukadnezar43, ok i set default sound card but it doesn't seem to stay that way, i open alsamixer again and it shows hda. and worse, even if intel ich6 is selected and alamixer is open, there is no sound |
00:03.49 | nabukadnezar43 | right click kmix |
00:03.54 | nabukadnezar43 | selct master channel |
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00:04.20 | nabukadnezar43 | volume up all those channels |
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00:13.04 | heraclitus_ | nabukadnezar43, done, internal audio is master channel, both channels are unmuted, volume up, both are visible, in kde multimedia settings the internal audio (intel ich6) is everywhere the upper one, still no sound, except in multimedia settings test, that is |
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00:20.57 | heraclitus_ | restart the stupid thing, but if it would not work then, i will blacklist hdmi sound |
00:22.25 | heraclitus_ | and perhaps i also have to remove all things, except alsa |
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00:43.46 | heraclitus_ | ok, i muted hdmi sound, because i lost patience, though i think this was not what brought the sound on |
00:46.07 | heraclitus_ | then what happened, was that after restart, the sound was on, but kde played the login sound only after i run the first application. and after it played the login sound, the sound didn't work any more |
00:49.35 | heraclitus_ | then i removed the channel from visible channels in kde mixer's sound configuration, and then i made it visible again, and this brought the sound on. but this has to be done every time after restart |
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01:35.35 | heraclitus_ | had to remove pulseaudio too, now everything works. i know ulseaudio is what finally causes that rubbish, but i don't know whether there is some way without blacklisting hdmi sound, no time for experimenting... |
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01:35.53 | heraclitus_ | pulseaudio* |
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05:02.57 | bbeck | Does anyone know where I can go to look at the okteta source? |
05:03.22 | bbeck | I know there's a website where I can browse the git repo, but google is doing its best to hide it from me. |
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05:08.08 | Verge | I was looking for Akregator's source the other day |
05:08.18 | Verge | All I found was was some three-year-old repo |
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05:14.52 | atomopawn | Is bugs.kde.org dow? |
05:14.55 | atomopawn | down? |
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05:16.17 | Aishiko | hello, I have kde4.6 and it doesn't detect removable media, either CDs/DVDss or USB anything |
05:18.52 | Aishiko | I have spent a couple of days trying to figure it out, I have udisks installed and still nothing I am in the plugdev group |
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06:08.46 | valorie | Verge: see /usr/share/doc/akregator/README/ |
06:10.18 | valorie | I believe all you have to do is enable the sources repo, and download it directly |
06:11.04 | valorie | but the readme should guide you to the website and techbase docs, which might enable you http access to git |
06:11.24 | Verge | I don't such a repo nor do I have that file |
06:11.30 | Verge | +have |
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06:35.11 | valorie | also: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources |
06:35.20 | valorie | Verge: ^^^ |
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06:44.51 | Verge | nice |
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06:53.21 | Shashi | Hi. I am using KDE 4.5. In my home folder, i have a folder "Desktop" with few applications icons. But my "folder view" widget is showing my home folder items, not my "Desktop" folder items. Please anyone tell me how to solve this problem? Thanks in advance. |
06:53.59 | Verge | Set it to show your Desktop directory then |
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06:55.45 | Shashi | Yes, i can do that. But by default it should show "Desktop" folder right? Why this is happening ? |
06:56.28 | cb400f | no, by default newly added folderviews show the home dir |
06:56.52 | Verge | ~/Desktop is something they are trying to ignore these days |
06:56.52 | apt | ...but /desktop is already something else... |
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07:01.01 | Shashi | OK. How to change this behaviour? . How to make that, by default, the "folder view" widget will shows "Desktop" folder? . My problem is, if i explicitly set the path, then "folder view" widget shows the top as "Home -> Desktop". Where as if i set as "Show the Desktop folder", then it will show the top as "Desktop folder". Showing as "Home -> Desktop" not looking good . |
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07:08.55 | alireza | The use of Linux in a Web kiosk I need to have a solution for on screen keyboard |
07:09.37 | cb400f | there's kvkbd |
07:09.52 | cb400f | also there's some virtual keyboard plasmoid iirc |
07:09.58 | cb400f | .. never tried either one though |
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07:12.42 | alireza | kvkbd when you click on an input text will be displayed? |
07:13.03 | alireza | Or ever will be displayed? |
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07:48.52 | daedaluz | does KDE have a native input method for east-asian languages? I have weird problems with ibus |
07:49.58 | agumonkey | Hi peeps |
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07:50.26 | BILLYKANE | daedaluz,maybe you can try fcitx |
07:50.48 | BILLYKANE | the developer of fcitx is a big fan of kde |
07:50.59 | agumonkey | Where can I disable starting nepomuk , completely disable , not just with System Settings ( there's still 2 processes related to nepomuk running ) |
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09:25.24 | youagree | hello |
09:25.41 | youagree | what is the entropy-kioslaves package good for? |
09:27.06 | youagree | i've been running kde on sabayon without that so far but i wonder what features entropy-kioslaves provides, what is it useful for ? |
09:30.20 | youagree | will it hurt if i install it? |
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09:40.31 | alireza | The use of Linux in a Web kiosk I need to have a solution for on screen keyboard |
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10:06.43 | rindolf | Hi all. |
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10:25.31 | t3hrealadamd | how would I go about removing the sliding "New Activity" bar off of my screen? I'm not sure how it even showed up. |
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10:25.59 | Verge | Remove it like any other plasmoid |
10:26.42 | nyuszika7h | Hi, can anyone help me? I only have one window open, and when I try to start an application, I get the error 'Maximum number of clients reached'. |
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10:26.51 | nyuszika7h | `xlsclients' shows a lot of '<unknown>' windows. |
10:27.12 | nyuszika7h | And is it normal that '/usr/bin/plasma-desktop' is listed a lot of times? |
10:27.37 | t3hrealadamd | Verge: I don't see any way to remove it. Nothing on right-click or in the actual menu |
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10:27.57 | t3hrealadamd | Verge: Also, I'm fairly new to KDE, so some of this isn't exactly obvious yet |
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10:29.20 | Verge | Unlock the widgets, then remove it |
10:29.30 | t3hrealadamd | my widgets aren't locked |
10:30.37 | Verge | Then click on the panel's configuration icon and move the cursor above the activities plasmoid and select remove |
10:31.41 | t3hrealadamd | yeah, still nothing |
10:31.43 | t3hrealadamd | it's not in my main panel |
10:31.53 | t3hrealadamd | hang on, screenshotting |
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10:32.14 | t3hrealadamd | http://i.imgur.com/3qcUd.png |
10:32.23 | t3hrealadamd | The "bar" on the right. |
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10:36.37 | Verge | Oh that |
10:36.38 | kde_pepo | t3hrealadamd, that's the desktop cashew. Move it to a corner |
10:36.40 | Verge | You can't remove it |
10:37.30 | t3hrealadamd | yep |
10:37.37 | t3hrealadamd | must have popped out when I moved the bar to the top |
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10:39.35 | t3hrealadamd | thansk |
10:43.32 | nyuszika7h | So, can anyone help me? |
10:43.54 | thiago | nyuszika7h: doubtful. I don't think anyone has ever seen that problem. |
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10:44.40 | nyuszika7h | Now it seems it got magically solved... I didn't do anything. |
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11:18.00 | GordonGR | Hallo everyone. Question: How can I have document templates in Dolphin/Konqueror, like in Nautilus/Thunar? |
11:18.38 | thiago | do you want to add a new template? |
11:19.44 | GordonGR | I have several ready from when I was using XFCE |
11:20.01 | GordonGR | but yes, I want to convert/transport them |
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11:20.59 | thiago | there's a directory somewhere where you can put the templates |
11:21.03 | thiago | I just don't know what it is |
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11:21.46 | GordonGR | I figured that much... but couldn't find it either |
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11:32.41 | Trewas | I am having problems getting service menus to work in dolphin following http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus, no matter where I put the .desktop file it does not show up in dolphin |
11:32.52 | Trewas | kde 4.6 in ubuntu 11.04, if that matters |
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11:53.49 | JackW | just upgraded an old kde machine to 4.7, but have some strange problems (i think with permissions, policykit, notworkmanager, etc). thought it might be a good idea to reset the kde config for the user account. (not all that much to lose there to be honest) on archlinux most of the kde stuff is configured in ~/.kde4, but wondering what other paths might well be removed? so far i've seen that kde-pim seems to have a penchant for storing |
11:53.49 | JackW | stuff elsewhere, like in ~/.local. |
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11:54.22 | thiago | and ~/.config |
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11:54.31 | thiago | but there are other things stored there, so be careful about removing completely |
11:54.59 | JackW | hmm, think i liked better when kde kept all it's stuff in one place :) thanks |
11:55.03 | GordonGR | you can always back them up somewhere else, remove them, see if things work correctly and recopy those you deem important |
11:55.31 | GordonGR | btw, do we know where the document templates directory is? :) |
11:55.50 | thiago | JackW: the stuff outside ~/.kde is because it's non-KDE |
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11:56.11 | thiago | JackW: i.e., freedesktop.org specifications or applications intended to be used in non-KDE environments |
11:56.28 | JackW | thiago: ah, so it's archlinux patching kde-pim? |
11:56.41 | thiago | JackW: what do you mean? |
11:57.25 | JackW | thiago: kde-pim seems to store databases with mail outside of ~/.kde for instance |
11:57.57 | JackW | more specifically kmail2 |
11:58.44 | thiago | not kdepim |
11:58.52 | thiago | akonadi, which is technically not part of KDE |
11:59.11 | thiago | no one but KDE uses it, but it's still written as non-KDE |
12:01.22 | GordonGR | oh! 238613 has local light enabled |
12:01.57 | GordonGR | Graphics Card Vendor: Tungsten Graphics, Inc |
12:01.57 | GordonGR | Graphics Card: Mesa DRI Intel(R) G41 x86/MMX/SSE2 |
12:01.57 | GordonGR | OpenGL Version: 1.4 (2.1 Mesa 7.10.3) |
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12:03.49 | JackW | thiago: ah, akonadi isn't part of kde, that makes me happy to hear..! it's the single most annoying piece of software i've had on my desktops in the last few years :) was actually beginning to have hard feelings against kde due to it B) |
12:04.22 | thiago | JackW: it was created by KDE for use in KDE (and others) |
12:04.32 | JackW | in any ways on my main machine i removed all the kde-pim stuff and shut off akonadi and am a lot happier with it. |
12:04.40 | thiago | same with nepomuk, soprano, solid, phonon, etc. |
12:04.51 | GordonGR | guys, sorry for the paste |
12:04.59 | thiago | those decisions come from 2005 when we decided to make more frameworks available for non-KDE applications |
12:05.28 | JackW | ok, so wipining ~/.kde should then remove most if not all of the kde configs. i'll give that a go |
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12:06.51 | JackW | thiago: i think i'm gonna have to sit down a google kde real well some day to understand how all the pieces fit together |
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12:13.16 | GordonGR | Hallo everyone. Question: How can I have document templates in Dolphin/Konqueror, like in Nautilus/Thunar? |
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12:15.10 | Trewas | btw I got the service menu .desktop file working, the guide in http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus says to use ServiceTypes=KonqPopupMenu/Plugin which should be X-KDE-Servicetypes followed by mimetypes the service applies to |
12:15.22 | thiago | GordonGR: shouldn't you just ask what folder to put the templates in? |
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12:15.28 | thiago | GordonGR: I've already told you that you can have. |
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12:16.44 | GordonGR | good point |
12:17.30 | Trewas | as a recent gnome refugee I have to say kde looks and feels really good, replacement to nautilus scripts was the last thing missing :) |
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12:27.35 | daedaluz | Trewas: and it's getting quickly better. 4.3 two years ago was the first usable release, now 4.7 is wiping the floor with Windows, OS X and GNOME3 |
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12:49.10 | Sho_ | daedaluz: i actually thought 4.2 was pretty cool already |
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14:31.28 | edgy | Hi, after upgrading my kde to 4.7. I received an Arabic message in kmail and I can read it properly, but when I click reply, the quoted message is garbage |
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14:39.12 | PythonSnake | edgy: unicode |
14:39.29 | edgy | PythonSnake: the message was cp1256 |
14:39.57 | edgy | PythonSnake: unicode messages works well |
14:41.04 | PythonSnake | convert to utf8 |
14:41.12 | edgy | PythonSnake: how? |
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14:42.55 | edgy | PythonSnake: you know I was wrong, all messages utf or not, I cannot reply to it |
14:43.12 | edgy | PythonSnake: I mean the quoted messages comes as garbage |
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14:43.52 | PythonSnake | edgy: delete quoted message. solved. |
14:44.23 | edgy | PythonSnake: are you kidding? isn't this a bug? |
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15:09.04 | ssal | so whats the easiest way of going about building 4.7? |
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15:28.14 | PythonSnake | ssal: ./configure && make && make install as root |
15:28.17 | PythonSnake | !next |
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15:28.38 | pinotree | which ./configure? |
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15:39.55 | mcorteel | ssal: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started#Building_and_Running_KDE_Software_From_Source |
15:40.17 | EvilGuru | I have somehow managed to disable window snapping under kwin. Where is the setting to enable it? |
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15:41.15 | mcorteel | EvilGuru: in the window behavior menu (right click on the title bar) |
15:41.35 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: System Settings -> Window Behavior -> Window Behavior -> Snap Zones |
15:41.59 | mcorteel | or that |
15:43.18 | EvilGuru | Does clicking Defaults reset all tabs? Or just the currently open one |
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15:44.02 | Sho_ | probably the entire KCM, i.e. all tabs |
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15:45.06 | EvilGuru | Okay thanks for the hint about where to find it. I thought it was an effect for some reason |
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15:51.57 | JackW | hmm, where would be the best place to look for support on networkmanager/umts usbmodem and the knetwork plasma widget? seems like on a hardware level it works like it should, but the applet doesn't work to well. as a matter of fact after removing everything in ~/.kde, ~/.local and ~/.config it won't even see the umts modem anymore, before it used to see it, but required me to create a new connection eachh time i wanted to dial |
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16:14.56 | edgy | hi, i added a vpn connection into knetworkmanager, where is the configuration file that stores this? |
16:15.23 | mfraz74 | any idea why I'm seeing phantom items in the task manager after I close a window? |
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16:20.11 | shreya | Hi there...is there a specific channel for asking kde based errors or can i post here? :) |
16:20.34 | thiago | it's fine here |
16:20.59 | shreya | cool....so i ran into a problem with kbuildsycoca4 |
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16:21.21 | shreya | it gives a plethora of errors which I am pasting here |
16:22.06 | shreya | http://pastebin.kde.org/112321/ |
16:22.20 | PythonSnake | too bad |
16:22.35 | PythonSnake | you'll have to reinstall whole distro |
16:22.40 | shreya | When i searched a bit,it seems that there is some problems with thw files in the .kde directory |
16:22.44 | shreya | Why?? |
16:22.45 | PythonSnake | hehe just joking ! |
16:22.46 | shreya | :( |
16:22.59 | PythonSnake | run with sudo |
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16:23.02 | PythonSnake | ? |
16:23.04 | shreya | Oh well you scared me |
16:23.18 | shreya | I will pastebin that too..one second |
16:23.20 | thiago | is KDEDIR set? |
16:23.30 | PythonSnake | myself I'm going to do a fresh linux install :P |
16:24.04 | shreya | http://pastebin.kde.org/112327/ |
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16:24.36 | shreya | thiago:I am sory are you talking about this |
16:24.37 | shreya | export KDEDIRS=/path/to/install:$KDEDIRS |
16:24.41 | shreya | I did that |
16:24.47 | thiago | exactly that? |
16:24.54 | shreya | umm yes |
16:25.08 | thiago | or is "/path/to/install" a replacement for something, like the path to the installation? |
16:25.37 | shreya | Oh i meant i gave thae path :P |
16:25.40 | shreya | sorry |
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16:26.14 | shreya | Thiago:I just checked |
16:26.23 | shreya | I copy pasted the wrong commands |
16:26.30 | shreya | The one with path to install |
16:26.32 | shreya | :P |
16:26.36 | shreya | Now what do I do? |
16:26.44 | shreya | It will not run any kde app |
16:26.57 | thiago | unset KDEDIRS |
16:27.04 | shreya | How? |
16:27.14 | thiago | type that: unset KDEDIRS |
16:27.33 | shreya | in the buold dir? |
16:27.43 | shreya | *build |
16:28.00 | shreya | Well did that |
16:28.04 | shreya | anything else? |
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16:30.00 | shreya | now it says:Command 'kbuildsycoca4' is available in '/usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4' |
16:30.00 | shreya | The command could not be located because '/usr/bin' is not included in the PATH environment variable. |
16:31.10 | thiago | did you type unset KDEDIRS? |
16:31.14 | thiago | looks like you unset PATH |
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16:33.53 | JackW1 | hmm, it seems like the gnome network mgt applet works fine, suppose i'll have to wait a little longer for the kde one to work with umts too. |
16:34.16 | thiago | in my experience, it's NM that doesn't work |
16:34.19 | thiago | not the applet |
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16:35.12 | JackW1 | could be, have been investigating it for 5-6 hours now, but it kinda sucks without netaccess :) |
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16:36.30 | JackW1 | had it working somewhat, the removed all kde configs, and now the umts modem doesn't show up at all. the gnome applet finds it straightaway. any alternatives to networkmanager that works better? |
16:37.14 | JackW1 | vwdial works too, wondering if it's not NM/policykit or something like that |
16:39.00 | JackW1 | but think i'll devote the rest of he day to straighten the kde install out. it was setup for phonon-xine, but arch apparently dropped that, so kde couldn't shutdown nor reboot. got that fixed too now |
16:39.50 | JackW1 | the nm applet seems to work fine for me with NM and wired/wifi, just umts modems that mess me up. |
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16:43.01 | shreya | thiago:Is there any way of resetting it? |
16:43.16 | thiago | shreya: resetting what? |
16:43.38 | shreya | thiago:the path variable that I accidently unset |
16:43.45 | thiago | yes, type: exit |
16:43.57 | thiago | it's not permanent, so just exit your shell |
16:44.03 | shreya | oh |
16:44.47 | shreya | So if I open up a new console now the problem will go away? |
16:45.04 | thiago | yes |
16:45.57 | shreya | Thiago:Thanks...it works! :) |
16:46.03 | shreya | You have been a real help |
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16:55.37 | sammael | hi |
16:55.58 | sammael | hey guys |
16:57.29 | sammael | i do have one question since im new in kde it seems that only preinstalled window decorations works for me |
16:57.49 | sammael | every other acting weird |
16:58.21 | sammael | is that normal ? ;p |
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16:59.54 | thiago | every other what is acting weird? |
17:01.35 | thiago | also, "weird" is subjective. We don't know what's weird for you. |
17:01.51 | thiago | it might be that what you see is expected, but it could be a problem. You'll have to be more specific. |
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17:07.21 | sammael | when i point mouse at some element at window bar it looks like its some bad textures |
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17:08.25 | sammael | instead of button i have white square and some random colors in it |
17:11.12 | sammael | it looks like those installed themes dose not support hightlighting button but i kinda dont belive evey theme is acting the same |
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17:17.32 | sammael | well, i will try with some others decoration and then start to wondering what going on |
17:17.40 | sammael | bye bye |
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17:30.42 | gato | Hi folks: I've a problem with a pygtk app. Since I upgraded to Fedora 15 KDE, some gtk commands are not working. For example, set_wrap_width from gtk.combo_box_new_text() is not working, and the combo shows only one column. Any clues?? |
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17:32.01 | Sho_ | gato: PyGTK and GTK+ have nothing to do with KDE |
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17:34.43 | gato | Sho_: I understand, but I thought that KDE must be overwriting some defaults, no? My app worked fine in FC13, and it still works fine in Winodws and Maemo. Only problem is FC15. It also doesn't obey other commands, like background colors. |
17:36.40 | Sho_ | not to my knowledge |
17:37.29 | gato | Do you know where I can find help? GTK IRC channels seem dead, and redhat bugzilla is a joke. |
17:38.22 | Sho_ | gato: Gnome's IRC channels are on OFTC I think |
17:38.49 | Sho_ | not sure, though |
17:39.01 | gato | Ok. Thanks. |
17:39.10 | Sho_ | whatever irc.gnome.org leads to, i guess |
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17:40.00 | gato | Ok. Thanks!! :) |
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18:07.11 | Kurdistan | hi I need help with bluedevil. |
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18:07.24 | Daskreech | anything more specific? |
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18:08.42 | Kurdistan | Daskreech: I can not transfer files from phone to computer and the other way. |
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18:09.42 | Kurdistan | Daskreech: even if it recognize my phone |
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18:10.01 | Daskreech | What version of bluedevil? |
18:10.52 | Kurdistan | 1.1 |
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18:14.39 | Kurdistan | :) I got it worked after testing every single usb-input. |
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18:47.24 | boomtopper | How do you add a plasmoid to the system tray? I've tried dragging but I'm unable to put it there? I'm trying to put the telepathy widget there but I can only place it either side of the system tray. |
18:48.13 | boomtopper | Ohh wait found it. It's in the prefs that I can do it :) |
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19:50.22 | cojack | hello guys |
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19:53.37 | cojack | if I would like to write pluginable self application using kde api, where I should start to read the techbase? |
19:58.20 | Tigerboy | hi does anyone know of a way to resize the mouse cursor?(like in Gnome there is a resize slider in the mouse cursor theme area). |
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20:03.58 | Daskreech | Tigerboy: hmm never thought of that |
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20:07.25 | lord_rob | Hi ! When I copy a file from a folder to another I don't see the progress window anymore ... How can I renable it ? kde 4.6.5 |
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20:08.49 | lord_rob | debian |
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20:09.32 | Tigerboy | daskreech yep it's one thing I like about gnome... should be possible to do it somehow in kde I would think. |
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20:10.39 | cb400f | lord_rob: you should have a little "pie diagram" thingy in the panel indicating the progress |
20:11.04 | cb400f | where there's normally the "i" |
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20:13.56 | lord_rob | Yes I know but the problem I have is that when I copy a file from my pc to my phone 80 mb via usb I don't see when copy has finished and it's dangerous because this file needs to be flashed as a new firmware |
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20:15.52 | thiago | always finds it nice how the circular section diagram gets different names according to the culture |
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20:15.57 | thiago | in English, it's a pie chart |
20:16.03 | thiago | in French, it's a camembert chart |
20:16.09 | thiago | in Portuguese, it's a pizza chart |
20:16.28 | lord_rob | and the file appears directly as copied on the destination |
20:16.35 | lord_rob | without delay |
20:16.55 | lord_rob | so I have to wait an arbitrary time |
20:16.55 | mfraz74 | to me it looks like the countdown you used to see at the start of old films |
20:17.17 | thiago | lord_rob: when you eject the device, it's copied |
20:17.30 | thiago | and the delay/immediateness is not due to KDE, it's how your system works |
20:17.32 | pinotree | thiago: hmm pizza |
20:17.44 | pinotree | (and hmm pie too) |
20:17.47 | thiago | if you need to mount your device in Sync mode, please consult your udisk settings |
20:17.51 | thiago | pinotree: how is it called in Italian? |
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20:18.11 | pinotree | the italian equivalent of "pie chart" |
20:18.18 | thiago | yes |
20:18.51 | mfraz74 | the other option is to use the command line |
20:19.15 | thiago | which is just as quick or slow |
20:19.26 | pinotree | thiago: it wasn't a question, but the reply :) |
20:19.42 | lord_rob | and if I unmount the device, I suppose the data shoulkd be synced |
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20:19.52 | JackW1 | bom proveito |
20:20.01 | thiago | pinotree: yeah, I always found it weird to call it a pie chart, since most pies I know are square or rectangular |
20:20.13 | pinotree | thiago: pie/cake, just like the one you get when you have your birthday |
20:20.15 | lord_rob | but an error is displayed : an app is currently using the device |
20:20.26 | lord_rob | but this app is only dolphin |
20:20.42 | mfraz74 | pies don't last that long over here for me to tell what shape it was |
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20:21.00 | pinotree | thiago: weird, if i go to a confetioner's here, most are round, and some are rectangular |
20:21.02 | Daskreech | thiago: Do you know if the mouse pointers in KDE are scalable? |
20:21.23 | pinotree | Daskreech: kde doesn't draw the cursor, X does |
20:21.36 | Daskreech | pinotree: Ah. In Framebuffer? |
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20:21.47 | pinotree | ? |
20:22.08 | Daskreech | Does it pick up a hint somewhere? For colour and size etc? |
20:23.46 | thiago | Daskreech: never seen it do that |
20:23.49 | thiago | it's not impossible |
20:24.06 | JackW1 | Daskreech: did you try system settings->workspace appearance? |
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20:25.35 | Tigerboy | pinotree: the desktop is an overlay to x among other things |
20:25.36 | Daskreech | Ah ok. Tigerboy was looking for a way to scale. Far as I know the only way to scale the pointer size would be a new theme (well at least GUI wise) |
20:26.04 | Tigerboy | gnome has a way to easily scale |
20:26.05 | Daskreech | I don't know if you can just put a new px size in a config file |
20:26.44 | Tigerboy | funny cause kde usually does more than gnome on most things |
20:26.49 | thiago | you can scale a pixmap, but it will be ugly |
20:26.59 | Daskreech | Tigerboy: Do you jsut want the cursour to be more easily seen? |
20:27.09 | Tigerboy | yes bigger |
20:27.17 | Daskreech | or have a bigger hit target or something? |
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20:27.37 | Daskreech | You can make it functionally bigger even if it's not visually bigger |
20:27.40 | JackW1 | Tigerboy: install a bigger cursor theme? |
20:27.46 | Tigerboy | well, people in my office that use kde wanted the same feature that is on gnome to resize the cursor |
20:28.12 | Daskreech | Tigerboy: Maybe look for a large mouse theme? |
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20:28.39 | Tigerboy | yes I will try... but i'm thinking if it can be done on gnome it should be possible on kde too |
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20:28.58 | Daskreech | Generally that's the case |
20:29.28 | Daskreech | thiago: That's what I was thinking as well. First thought was the mouse cursour isn't vector is it? |
20:29.38 | Daskreech | cursor |
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20:29.57 | Tigerboy | they resize very smoothly |
20:30.23 | Tigerboy | at least under gentoo and debian I have had some problems with ubuntu |
20:30.52 | Daskreech | Haven't played with Gnome mice in a while :) |
20:31.18 | Tigerboy | it's the same themes etc |
20:31.33 | Tigerboy | just the kde is lacking the resize slider |
20:32.38 | Tigerboy | from my research-- kde used to have a way to make the mouse large (not a slider but just one setting of large) |
20:33.16 | thiago | accessibility |
20:33.17 | cb400f | you mean the cursor theme? |
20:35.08 | LPLATES | Hi all :) --- Anyone know how chunky,(MB/GB) KDE 3.5 or 4.6 etc. might be when installed - Have around 1GB free on /usr - [FREEBSD SYSTEM] - Thanks :) |
20:35.53 | thiago | can be as small as 200 MB |
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20:37.08 | thiago | my full build is 1.8 GB |
20:37.30 | LPLATES | Would be using a FreeBSD port from the ports collection...Got stung with Gnome recently, think I lost 1.5 or more GB and really only wanted the panel - didn't think it would put that much extra junk in considering already had all the GTK and other libraries that apps' like Firefox use. |
20:37.53 | LPLATES | thiago, - yikes! |
20:38.05 | thiago | LPLATES: I think it includes debugging info |
20:38.31 | Tigerboy | LPLATES: one thing I dislike about gnome lately is the sloppy interconnecting massive dependencies. |
20:38.34 | LPLATES | thiago, what version do you have? |
20:39.09 | thiago | LPLATES: master build of July |
20:39.23 | cojack | guys stupid question |
20:39.33 | cojack | how to make visible kDebug() output in kdevelop? |
20:39.40 | LPLATES | Yeh I hate Gnome also - but always liked the panel over the KDE one -- my old system ran Gnome panel and Full KDE with Enlightenment as Window manager - would like to make something similar on this updated system. |
20:39.44 | Tigerboy | that and gnone 3 which is almost anti linux in it's design |
20:40.39 | LPLATES | HATE the gnome file manager also :) - KDE for the win on that,(least my old version 3.x one) hope any new Konquerer isn't Gnome-like :) |
20:41.33 | Tigerboy | LPlates: you just have to assume about 20 gig of wasted nonsense with linux as things are now. I don't worry about it just be careful to size your affected partitions accordingly. |
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20:42.53 | LPLATES | Tigerboy, LOL - have about 1GB free on /usr currently :) --- FreeBSD system - yick to Linux, too little config structure & Windows programming mentality it seems to me lately. |
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20:43.21 | Tigerboy | Laplates: yes nautilus is very buggy.... But it can be controlled if you don't let gdm3 tear your system to ribbons ... well I have had these mysterious crashes caused by the iceauthority and now finally have that under control. |
20:44.39 | Tigerboy | Lplates: yes it is really almost anti-linux as I say. I just try to figure out what is going on and adjust for it as quickly as I can. |
20:44.40 | LPLATES | thiago, - missed the "Master build of July" message - that a 3.x or 4.6x or 4.7? |
20:44.58 | thiago | LPLATES: it's the master branch, built in July |
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20:46.55 | LPLATES | thiago, guessing 4.6x -- as 4.7 only got released on July 27th according to main KDE website on it's news --- yeh, snuck back, had a looksee ;) |
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20:47.15 | graphitemaster | is there a reason ark cannot preview txt files? |
20:47.23 | graphitemaster | but it can preview anything else ( such as an image ) |
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20:49.49 | Daskreech | graphitemaster: works here |
20:50.11 | thiago | LPLATES: then it's 4.7 RC |
20:50.22 | thiago | LPLATES: or pre-alpha of 4.8 |
20:50.44 | qop | howdie, I am getting: server failed authenticity check (example.com) The certificate auth is not trusted for this purpose |
20:51.10 | qop | assume that I just have to tell konqueror or somethng to accept verising |
20:51.14 | qop | but where? |
20:51.21 | qop | ? |
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20:53.52 | LPLATES | thiago, - thanks --- What's the stability like? - any minor/major issues? |
20:54.16 | thiago | LPLATES: doing fine |
20:54.27 | thiago | there are some annoying issues that have cropped up recently, though |
20:54.46 | thiago | the taskbar in plasma has a lot of ghost entries, so over time the buttons get smaller and smaller |
20:55.00 | thiago | there's a focus issue in kwin that focuses the wrong window every now and then |
20:55.22 | thiago | and someone introduced unstable code in KIO recently, but the fix should be in today |
20:55.32 | LPLATES | Tigerboy, - what version KDE are you running - and as above of thiago - any stability or slowness issues with your version --- I'm running PIII 672MHz,(overclocked) & 512MB ram - so cannot have anything too leaky or bloaty --- already have Firefox & wretched Opera fullfilling that requirement :) |
20:55.45 | mfraz74 | thiago: i've noticed that happening a lot recently |
20:55.57 | thiago | mfraz74: which one? the focus? |
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20:56.12 | mfraz74 | thiago: the ghost entries after i close down an app |
20:56.26 | LPLATES | Meaning Firefox & Opera being leaky & bloated :P |
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20:57.09 | mfraz74 | i've also had some overlapping, so I have to sort alphabetically now |
20:57.56 | cojack | http://pastebin.com/e21kF56r |
20:57.59 | cojack | need help |
20:58.14 | cojack | I just fallow this tutorial http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Services/Plugins |
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20:58.43 | LPLATES | I wouldn't be using composite -- I assume that's maybe something Plasma uses and creates issues with? --(mplayer tears and flickers on xorg.conf having composite features active for some reason) |
20:59.16 | thiago | LPLATES: I'm right now watching a video with mplayer, with compositing on |
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20:59.58 | LPLATES | thiago, think it's due to my Nvidia drivers from memory - using old Geforce3 |
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21:01.14 | LPLATES | was listed in a FAQ -- thinking; pretty certain now it was with the Nvidia drivers. |
21:04.46 | LPLATES | thiago, Tigerboy --- Gotta go - thanks for the help & chat though :) |
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21:10.18 | PythonSnake | Hello |
21:10.38 | PythonSnake | KDE is taking forever to load. It freezes at boot screen. Intel GMA HD, Arch Linux. |
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21:11.35 | Teratogen | should have gone with Slackware! =) |
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21:20.15 | Aishiko | hello, with the change to udisk is there a new group to be in for mounting usb hotmountable/swapable drives? |
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21:24.35 | Aishiko | I am in the usb and plugdev groups but it keeps saying permission denied |
21:25.00 | Aishiko | does anyone have any ideas? |
21:30.22 | thiago | Aishiko: it's not about groups |
21:30.28 | thiago | it's about polkit |
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21:31.41 | chetnick | when I open dolphin with a bunch of video files kio_thumbnail eats up all available RAM. within 20 seconds ~4GB is consumed and system becomes iresponsive. |
21:32.41 | chetnick | That is some serious bug or mem leak in kde 4.7. I haven't noticed that behaviour in 4.6 |
21:33.28 | Aishiko | thiago, alright then what do I do? since I have no clue how to access the new policy area since they started this whole kde switch |
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21:33.51 | JackW | chetnick: keep an eye on akonadi? |
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21:34.17 | chetnick | JackW: ? |
21:36.22 | JackW | chetnick: i mean keep an eye on what it's doing, i've had a lot of problems with it lately though 4gb gone in seconds sounds like something else |
21:37.21 | thiago | Aishiko: nor do I. It just comes pre-configured on my Linux system. |
21:37.32 | thiago | Aishiko: please check with your distribution how to configure udisks correctly. |
21:39.40 | Aishiko | thiago, shouldn't it be universal on how to configure it? |
21:40.02 | thiago | yes |
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21:41.20 | valorie | thiago: while we're discussing mounting, I'm noticing that since 4.7, my CD drive isn't mounted |
21:41.26 | valorie | and I can't mount it |
21:41.34 | valorie | something is askew |
21:42.12 | thiago | can you mount with udisks --mount? |
21:44.40 | valorie | $ udisks --mount |
21:44.41 | valorie | Usage: |
21:44.43 | valorie | <PROTECTED> |
21:44.49 | valorie | and then a list of options |
21:45.15 | thiago | right, now use the right optoins :-) |
21:45.15 | valorie | $ udisks --poll-for-media |
21:45.17 | valorie | Usage: |
21:45.18 | valorie | <PROTECTED> |
21:45.34 | valorie | am I using it wrong? |
21:45.40 | thiago | udisks --enumerate, find your CD device, udisks --mount <paste the device here> |
21:47.24 | valorie | http://paste.kde.org/112459/ |
21:47.33 | valorie | which might it be? |
21:47.43 | thiago | sr0 |
21:47.47 | thiago | as in /dev/sr0 :-) |
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21:49.57 | valorie | http://paste.kde.org/112465/ |
21:50.53 | thiago | valorie: pass the device identifier you see in --enumerate |
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21:52.16 | valorie | http://paste.kde.org/112471/ |
21:52.24 | valorie | tried that first |
21:52.58 | thiago | is there a CD in the drive? |
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21:55.37 | valorie | yes |
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21:56.25 | valorie | trying to rip a cd, but keep getting an error message: |
21:56.27 | valorie | Sound Juicer could not read the track listing on this CD. |
21:56.28 | valorie | [13:55] <valorie> Reason: Cannot access CD: The specified location is not mounted |
21:56.36 | valorie | Dolphin can't see it either |
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22:05.26 | thiago | you can't mount an audio CD |
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22:07.34 | valorie | KDE no longer has a CD ripping app, so I use Sound Juicer |
22:07.43 | PythonSnake | failsafe works |
22:07.46 | valorie | cries for the lost Kaudiocreator.... |
22:07.46 | PythonSnake | :/ |
22:07.51 | valorie | failsafe? |
22:08.01 | PythonSnake | normal freezes at loading screen |
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22:08.24 | thiago | valorie: kio_audiocd doesn't work either? |
22:08.38 | valorie | no, I can't see the CD drive in Dolphin |
22:08.58 | valorie | I guess I didn't try kio_audiocd by itself |
22:09.20 | valorie | kio_audiocd: command not found |
22:09.24 | thiago | just type audiocd:/ in dolphin |
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22:09.55 | pinotree | valorie: note kaudiocreator is still being developed, an there's a kde4 version of it |
22:10.24 | valorie | right, apachelogger packaged it, but it only crashes |
22:10.29 | valorie | haven't tried it recently |
22:10.44 | pinotree | maybe that was an older version? |
22:10.53 | pinotree | (disclaimer: i didn't try it myself) |
22:11.15 | valorie | I dig up a port to 4.x on kde-apps, and he grumbled and packaged it |
22:11.44 | valorie | audiocd:/ finds an empty CD |
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22:12.18 | valorie | yet I can listen in Amarok |
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22:14.36 | valorie | there is no kaudiocreator in the *buntu repositories |
22:15.09 | valorie | so I'm going to assume that development stopped after the port |
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22:19.43 | valorie | in any case, the problem is the lack of automounting |
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22:20.03 | valorie | I can work around the ripping part in a few different ways |
22:20.41 | valorie | cf. Aishiko's problem earlier, where the USB drive isn't mountable |
22:21.11 | thiago | you can't mount a non-data CD |
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22:21.26 | valorie | but the drive should be mounted, should it not? |
22:21.29 | thiago | no |
22:21.40 | thiago | if it doesn't have a filesystem, it can't be mounted |
22:21.55 | valorie | why does soundjuicer want it mounted for, then? |
22:22.07 | thiago | no clue |
22:22.16 | valorie | I've been using this same app ever since kaud. disappeared |
22:22.32 | valorie | with the occasional use of the kio slave, amarok and rippit |
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23:02.17 | jmichaelx | Sho_: are you involved with the yakuake terminal? |
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23:06.12 | Sho_ | jmichaelx: yep |
23:07.35 | jmichaelx | Sho_: i am using version 2.9.8 in kubuntu on multiple machines, both at home and at work, and in every case, yakuake is not saving to .bash_history as it should |
23:07.58 | jmichaelx | Sho_: this may be a known issue to you already |
23:08.07 | Sho_ | jmichaelx: .bash_history is written by the bash shell, not by Yakuake |
23:08.13 | Sho_ | Yakuake is a terminal emulator, not a shell |
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23:08.54 | Sho_ | Yakuake is unware of command history on any level since the terminal emulator is not involved |
23:10.05 | jmichaelx | Sho_: the only this is that this is not how yakuake had behaved through the last several kubuntu iterations |
23:10.18 | jmichaelx | the only thing is* |
23:10.23 | Sho_ | jmichaelx: Again, Yakuake is not involved with history in any way |
23:10.30 | Sho_ | This is related to your bash configuration |
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23:10.54 | Sho_ | Or Kubuntu's default bashrc/bash_profile/profile, etc. |
23:10.59 | jmichaelx | Sho_: so what you are saying is that something in the bashrc might have changed? |
23:11.03 | jmichaelx | ok |
23:11.23 | jmichaelx | Sho_: because when using konsole, i do not have this problem |
23:11.34 | jmichaelx | Sho_: many thanks for the info |
23:11.47 | Sho_ | In fact, even if the terminal emulator were involved with history - which it isn't - it still wouldn't be related to Yakuake, since Yakuake actually embeds the Konsole KPart component for terminal emulation, so strictly speaking Yakuake's code doesn't even know it does anything with terminals ;) |
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23:14.58 | jmichaelx | Sho_: i guess i need to look into why history in konsole gets saved, and in yakuake it no longer does.... i had seen this before, but it was several years ago |
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23:20.46 | Sho_ | jmichaelx: The only thing I can imagine is that Konsole and Yakuake are set to use different terminal profiles and one is configured to spawn a login shell and the other a non-login shell, causing different startup files to be read (see "Invocation" in the bash manpage) and those different startup files setting different history-related shopts |
23:20.58 | Sho_ | that's a fairly convoluted scenario though |
23:21.52 | jmichaelx | Sho_: i have, however, seen many things that convoluted :-) |
23:22.44 | valorie | jmichaelx: I haven't seen any difference in yakuake lately |
23:22.50 | valorie | seems to keep my history just fine |
23:23.07 | Sho_ | just to reiterate, Yakuake doesn't keep history |
23:23.13 | Sho_ | nor does konsole |
23:23.15 | valorie | uses kub w/ 4.7 |
23:23.18 | Sho_ | that's the shell's job |
23:23.33 | valorie | ok, it displays it fine, sorry |
23:24.14 | jmichaelx | valorie: i would be curious as to what the difference is then, because i am seeing this on about 6 different machines |
23:24.58 | jmichaelx | valorie: bash sessions in konsole are saved just fine. in yakuake, not at all |
23:25.05 | valorie | weird |
23:25.16 | valorie | if that were so for me, I wouldn't be using yakuake |
23:25.28 | valorie | up arrow is my most faithful friend |
23:25.39 | Sho_ | FWIW, I haven't heard any similar report from any other Kubuntu users |
23:25.58 | jmichaelx | valorie: up arrow is also mine... but i am also addicted to yakuake, and have been for years |
23:26.19 | valorie | I just started using it within the last 6 months |
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23:26.54 | jmichaelx | Sho_: i would be fairly confident that it isn't only me, but who knows |
23:27.45 | Sho_ | jmichaelx: Probably not, but Yakuake 2.9.8 has been out since January, and if it were a prevalent problem causd by something in either Yakuake or the Konsole KPart I'd probably have heard about it by now |
23:28.42 | jmichaelx | Sho_: no doubt. this problem did not show up for me until upgrading to 11.04.... i am wondering if something in .bashrc did not get changed at that time |
23:28.59 | Sho_ | Or in /etc/profile |
23:29.05 | jmichaelx | or .bash_profile, etc |
23:29.08 | jmichaelx | yes |
23:29.10 | Sho_ | yep |
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23:29.41 | jmichaelx | you have already convinced me that this isn't a yakuake bug |
23:30.19 | Sho_ | the histappend shopt might be relevant e.g. |
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23:32.04 | jmichaelx | Sho_: yes, it might be, i was just looking into that |
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23:33.30 | Sho_ | is currently waiting for KDE 4.7.1 to release before releasing 2.9.9, btw :) |
23:34.00 | jmichaelx | will be looking forward to it |
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