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00:17.02 | buscher | the icon cache in kde-4.5, does it save the images somewhere on the disk? |
00:18.41 | thiago | yes, in the cache file |
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00:47.28 | Bugson | guys any way to restore home.desktop from my desktop, I overwrited it by mistake, tried one from /usr/share... but it's not what was there from the begining |
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00:58.05 | roerich | rename .kde4 to another directoryname before starting kde |
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01:21.00 | Bugson | thx roerich ;) |
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01:35.22 | Bugson | and is there some way to make shadows non sticky to other windows and shadows? |
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02:01.30 | EffBee | AFAIK the sticky shadows thing only happens with the panel shadows? |
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03:52.22 | ashes | hello |
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03:53.23 | ashes | i just bought a wide screen lcd. xorg is using 1920x1080 resolution, but kde4 doesn't seem to be using it. the bar on the bottom of my display isn't going across the screen, for example |
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03:57.27 | 94SAABL69 | http://stanford.edu/~pgbovine/cde.html - Binary wrapper to run any binary app through different linux machines (same arch though) .. without installing any dependence! |
03:57.43 | 94SAABL69 | just spreading news |
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03:58.47 | ashes | nevermind. i found the toolbox |
03:58.55 | ashes | :-) |
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04:34.14 | A209379975 | hi bitches |
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04:55.54 | nikhil_ | when i open amarok via krunner, it crashes plasma (which restarts) and then continues running fine. anybody seen this behaviour before? |
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05:13.44 | crocket | Does KDM read /etc/login.conf completely? |
05:13.47 | crocket | Or does it read partially? |
05:14.06 | crocket | Is KDM aware of /etc/login.conf? |
05:14.28 | dasKreech | should be |
05:15.08 | crocket | should be? |
05:15.17 | crocket | dasKreech, /etc/login.conf is specific to FreeBSD |
05:15.32 | crocket | It's hard to imagine KDE developers made FreeBSD-specific code. |
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05:19.06 | dasKreech | why? |
05:20.36 | crocket | KDE is cross-platform |
05:20.50 | crocket | Developers are encouraged to write platform-independent codes |
05:20.55 | crocket | dasKreech, That's why |
05:21.28 | crocket | There may be some sort of platform independent codes that read /etc/login.conf on FreeBSD. |
05:21.35 | dasKreech | yes but that sometimes means detecting which platform you are on and acting appropriately |
05:22.13 | dasKreech | Kate would suck if when you ran it on Windows it made all your files UNIX style. It would break everything on your system horriblt |
05:22.39 | dasKreech | so it does windows specific things if that is what makes sense for that action |
05:22.59 | crocket | There must be some sort of middle layer. |
05:23.07 | dasKreech | agreed |
05:23.36 | crocket | dasKreech, Are you a developer? |
05:24.34 | dasKreech | not for KDE |
05:25.37 | crocket | dasKreech, GDM doesn't read /etc/login.conf directly |
05:25.51 | crocket | But it results in reading some entries in /etc/login.conf |
05:27.44 | crocket | dasKreech, GDM 2.30.5 is horrible since Xsession script in GDM depends on /etc/profile to read environment values. |
05:27.59 | crocket | dasKreech, KDM depends on /etc/login.conf to read environment values. |
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05:28.28 | crocket | dasKreech, GDM reads only PATH and LANG from /etc/login.conf |
05:29.04 | dasKreech | ok |
05:29.20 | dasKreech | what are you looking from in login.conf ? |
05:29.31 | crocket | setenv, lang, charset |
05:29.43 | crocket | Those set environment values |
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05:29.59 | crocket | lang matches $LANG |
05:30.05 | crocket | charset matches $MM_CHARSET |
05:30.13 | crocket | setenv sets various environment values |
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05:32.14 | crocket | dasKreech, Are you willing to fix GDM? |
05:32.32 | crocket | I don't know about the latest version of GDM, though. |
05:32.50 | dasKreech | crocket: join the GNOME dev channel and aske them |
05:33.07 | crocket | #gnome? |
05:33.46 | dasKreech | try /server irc.gnome.org |
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06:59.21 | oneforall | strange 4.5.3 the tab in konq file mode went back to the left |
07:00.27 | oneforall | in this version can that place tree be put to the bottom ? |
07:00.48 | oneforall | tried drag drop but it still not grabbing it |
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07:04.26 | oneforall | weird since 4.5.1 I still can't get the cube to work |
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07:07.08 | oneforall | hmm I tried to enable fade and I get a popup saying a few things can't be enabled O.o NO copy and paste :( :) |
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07:20.29 | oneforall | hmm still can't reaize the search box in konq :( |
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07:50.53 | oneforall | any idea how I can find out why cube and other things are getting disabled ? |
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07:52.44 | oneforall | flip switch, cube, sharpen, cover switch .. |
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07:54.36 | oneforall | http://pastebin.com/gW5RKhFR |
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08:00.09 | oneforall | hmm seeing its been a problem since 4.5.1 for others too. As soon as you startx it disabling them |
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08:03.00 | oneforall | and no xsession-errors |
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08:30.27 | oneforall | ah its defauilting to xREender |
08:30.49 | oneforall | worked good with opengl . but now it refuses to work with opengl |
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09:31.15 | jeffmr_ | hello |
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09:37.41 | Dewi | I want to run kde once; but it is running 'x-session-manager' which on my system is gnome |
09:37.55 | Dewi | what is the kde equivalent and how do I make it run instead? |
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09:44.42 | cb400f | sounds like you should ask your distro |
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09:57.22 | miniBill | I love KDE |
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10:00.19 | jeffmr | 4 or 3? |
10:01.34 | cb400f | there's only one kde.. and it's not 3 ;-) |
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10:03.48 | Insomniac_ | How to change system fonts? |
10:04.02 | jeffmr | some distros use 3 |
10:05.08 | cb400f | when debian squeeze and centos6 get released there should be no more distros using kde3.. at least in their latest version |
10:05.15 | jeffmr | system settings - appearnce - fonts |
10:05.17 | Insomniac_ | How to change system fonts in KDE? The fonts options doesn't allow to change it |
10:05.28 | Insomniac_ | jeffmr: There is no option to cahnge |
10:05.36 | cb400f | what exactly do you mean by "system fonts"? |
10:06.02 | Insomniac_ | cb400f: Fonts for every text you see other than CLI |
10:06.09 | jeffmr | it looks like there is to me |
10:06.21 | jeffmr | cb400f, backtrack-linux uses 3 |
10:06.27 | Insomniac_ | Every window, browser options, kate options etc |
10:06.43 | cb400f | you can set kde fonts in kde systemsettings |
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10:07.23 | cb400f | there's no one place that will guaranteed configure fonts for _all_ apps of all different frameworks |
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10:08.52 | Insomniac_ | Thats' possible. Found it under Applicaion appearance->fonts |
10:09.11 | cb400f | a security distro .. shipping a dead, unmaintained desktop? ;-) |
10:09.17 | Insomniac_ | 'Adjust all fonts' |
10:09.29 | pinotree | ... all fonts for kde apps, yes |
10:09.31 | jeffmr | hence not all distros |
10:09.32 | Insomniac_ | cb400f: What? |
10:09.37 | jeffmr | non-judged |
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10:41.04 | sxe | i have this strange problem with aurorae windecos since yesterday.. the shadows are messed up. some advice? http://simplest-image-hosting.net/jpg-0-plasma-desktopj17501 |
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10:59.49 | hyper_ch | hi there, I have a new notebook and it has a broadcomm wifi card. I loaded the retricted drivers and it recognizes the wifis.... however when I add the passwort, it fails to connect and re-asks for the password |
10:59.54 | hyper_ch | how can I find out what's wrong? |
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11:01.08 | mueslo | hey, how do you remove a widget from plasma-desktop without starting it? the problem is that fancytasks (or so I think) is crashing plasma-desktop whenever I try to start it |
11:01.44 | mueslo | by "without starting it", Imeant without starting plasmadesktop of course |
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11:02.36 | sxe | mueslo: thats not possible |
11:02.38 | sxe | :/ |
11:02.46 | sxe | you have to remove it from the config file |
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11:04.38 | sxe | ".kde4/share/config/plasma-desktop-appletsrc" |
11:04.57 | sxe | and search for the "[Containments]" you want to remove |
11:05.12 | mueslo | looking through /var/log/messages I also found Nov 13 11:54:45 MUESLIMOBIL kernel: [40320.862950] plasma-desktop[21169]: segfault at 50 ip 00007fef3d6176b9 sp 00007fff59e6c9a0 error 4 in libQtGui.so.4.6.3[7fef3d270000+a29000] |
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11:15.29 | mueslo | okay I went the easier way and just deinstalled it via yast |
11:15.44 | mueslo | so it really was the widget that was causing a crash |
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11:29.49 | sxe | how can i change ONLY the color of the oxygen window decoration? i was only able to change the color by changing the whole window background. |
11:32.06 | Sho_ | enable "Outline window title" in the deco options, then it uses the window deco color from the colorscheme |
11:34.08 | sxe | yes i noticed that but the the title has an othe rbackground.. |
11:34.17 | Sho_ | yeah |
11:34.20 | sxe | is that the only possibility? |
11:34.26 | Sho_ | yep |
11:34.33 | sxe | uh.. that sucks. ;) |
11:34.39 | sxe | but thx |
11:34.51 | Sho_ | there is an Oxygen fork called Ozone that optionally respects the color settings |
11:35.16 | sxe | ah ok.. yes i remember about it |
11:35.22 | sxe | is it up to date? |
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11:35.39 | Sho_ | not sure. it was shipped with KDE for a while, but iirc it was removed when Oxygen added the outline option |
11:35.52 | Sho_ | but it would probably still work with 4.5's deco API |
11:35.54 | sxe | hm ok |
11:36.03 | sxe | i will check kde-look |
11:36.41 | hyper_ch | hi Sho_ |
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11:55.39 | parapente | hi! have the problems with kwin effects and intel driver been fixed? |
11:56.41 | parapente | I'm on 4.5.3 and I still can't see the kmenu if I enable desktop effects |
11:56.53 | parapente | is there a fix for this? |
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11:58.16 | annma | parapente: really? you can't see the k menu? |
11:59.09 | parapente | if I keep pressing on the kde *some* times it appears but most of the times it is invisible |
11:59.16 | annma | so |
11:59.29 | annma | what's the Intel card? |
11:59.59 | parapente | 945GM |
12:00.00 | annma | and did that happen on 4.5.3? |
12:00.11 | annma | me too and I have effects and I have the K menu |
12:00.25 | annma | what about previous versions? |
12:00.25 | parapente | no it was a problem from in all 4.5 series |
12:00.35 | parapente | it was ok in 4.4.x |
12:00.38 | annma | all the 4.5 series? |
12:00.41 | parapente | yes :-/ |
12:00.47 | annma | did you report it? |
12:01.44 | parapente | no I didn't. I had seen various posts in the web about problems with graphics cards (especially intel ones) so I thought it was temporary |
12:02.19 | parapente | I don't know how I could found out more about what could be wrong |
12:02.19 | annma | did you ask your distro channel to see if other such cards owners have the same? |
12:02.30 | annma | this card is pretty common |
12:02.44 | annma | bugs.kde.org is the place to report bugs |
12:03.00 | annma | you need to see what effects are enabled |
12:03.16 | annma | try only the minimum and see if the problem is still there |
12:03.26 | annma | in short: investigate a bit more |
12:03.35 | parapente | thanks annma |
12:03.50 | annma | in system settings, what do you have checked in Desktop effects? |
12:03.51 | parapente | I'll do a bit of testing and ask the gentoo guys |
12:03.57 | annma | yes please do so |
12:03.59 | parapente | right now no |
12:04.09 | annma | no? |
12:04.09 | parapente | one moment to enable it |
12:04.29 | annma | enable minimum, i.e. desktop effects but uncheck all common settings |
12:04.38 | annma | describe precisely what happensd then |
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12:09.40 | oneforall | so any idea why some effect don't work 4.5.1-3 ? |
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12:10.22 | annma | what effect |
12:10.28 | annma | what card |
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12:10.34 | annma | did they work previously |
12:10.36 | annma | and so on |
12:10.45 | parapente | annma, I have disabled everything from the "All effects" Tab and everything from common settings |
12:10.51 | parapente | and it still happens :-/ |
12:11.01 | annma | oneforall: I thought you would know how to ask questions after all the time you spent here |
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12:11.11 | annma | parapente: screenshpt |
12:11.17 | annma | screenshot |
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12:12.55 | parapente | http://imagebin.ca/view/3AgZIpM.html |
12:14.01 | oneforall | I forget ah the parts other that the cube disabled . would love a copy paste in the popup eror box . but it doesn't have that |
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12:14.26 | oneforall | I posted earlier but its gone too |
12:14.36 | oneforall | what more do you want |
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12:15.04 | parapente | that screenshot should show the kmenu. It's after I have pressed on the K icon |
12:15.36 | parapente | the dialog has no effect on all comboboxes |
12:15.47 | annma | parapente: what's your K menu? Kickoff or cmlassical? |
12:16.35 | annma | oneforall: I don't follow you, look in bugs.kde.org |
12:16.43 | annma | parapente: what's your K menu? Kickoff or classical? |
12:16.58 | parapente | kickoff |
12:17.04 | oneforall | cover switch, flip switch, sharpen, descktop cube, desktop cube animation all get disabled since 4.5.1 to 3 for me |
12:17.36 | annma | oneforall: weird as 4.5.1. to 4.5.3 is only a bug fix release |
12:18.04 | annma | parapente: please try a new user with defaults maybe |
12:18.17 | annma | defaults as default theme and style |
12:18.30 | annma | I can't reproduce your problem parapente |
12:18.37 | annma | same card |
12:18.40 | oneforall | yeah google I seen others with the same but no fix |
12:18.51 | annma | I did not say google oneforall |
12:18.59 | annma | i said bugs.kde.org |
12:19.13 | oneforall | must be opengl cause its defaulting to xrender and refuses to change to opengl |
12:19.14 | annma | google can return you anything and its contrary |
12:19.26 | annma | so google is not a reference |
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12:20.03 | parapente | it's actually the oxygen theme and style for windows and Aya for the plasma so I don't think that would solve this but I will try |
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12:21.05 | parapente | annma, could you plz post a screenshot of your advanced tab for the desktop effects? |
12:22.32 | annma | why? |
12:22.39 | annma | I only enable defaults |
12:22.59 | parapente | to see if I enabled something that I shouldn't |
12:23.21 | annma | try disable them all for a start |
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12:24.20 | annma | in All effects |
12:24.29 | annma | uncheck them and see what happens |
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12:30.53 | parapente | annma, I have already disabled everything in that tab |
12:31.56 | annma | try switching to classical menu |
12:32.02 | annma | for the Kmenuy |
12:32.05 | annma | menu |
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12:33.24 | parapente | !!! it's working! :-D |
12:33.36 | parapente | so it must have to do with kickoff |
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13:35.00 | _spm_Draget | If I want to set an enviroment variable for my user... where should I do this? If it do it inside my .bashrc, KDE will not notice it until I load a bash console, or? Or is bashrc parsed anyways when KDE starts? |
13:36.20 | Sho_ | Add a foo.sh file in ~/.kde/env/ and put export VAR=value in it |
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14:09.23 | lineinthesand | How can I start the kde4 system settings via command line? |
14:09.48 | annma | systemsettings |
14:09.56 | annma | lineinthesand: ^^ |
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14:10.45 | lineinthesand | annma, thank you! But it doesn't seem to work as root... :o( |
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14:11.03 | lineinthesand | (Cannot find dbus session server) |
14:11.18 | annma | why as root? |
14:11.26 | lineinthesand | The thing is: I need to configure the fonts for root larger. |
14:11.50 | annma | ask your distribution maybe |
14:11.53 | lineinthesand | (If I use certain applications as root) |
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14:12.48 | pinotree | lineinthesand: alt+f2, "kdesu systemsettings" |
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14:16.05 | lineinthesand | pinotree, thank you very much! |
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14:32.05 | annma | in your .kde folder |
14:32.06 | Tron1982 | hi skfin |
14:32.09 | Tron1982 | kde folder |
14:32.11 | Tron1982 | yes |
14:32.12 | Tron1982 | wallpapers |
14:32.25 | annma | .kde/share/wallpapers I think |
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14:32.56 | Tron1982 | im having problems with my floppy |
14:33.10 | skfin | Okay, thought so too but I was too blind for wallpapers :) |
14:33.18 | Tron1982 | im using fedora 14 with kde, but i think its a fedora problem instead kde |
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14:33.42 | Klesso | hi. Is someone who can tell me why to chose KDE instead GNOME. |
14:34.02 | Tron1982 | when i boot and kdm starts, my floppy led stays with the light on |
14:34.20 | Tron1982 | Klesso, you must install both desktops? |
14:34.21 | annma | Klesso: try both and choose yourself |
14:34.39 | Tron1982 | when you start, choose your type session |
14:34.45 | annma | Klesso: or look at screenshots and see for yourself |
14:34.49 | Tron1982 | KDE, Gnome or another |
14:34.53 | annma | it's your call Klesso |
14:34.55 | Klesso | Tron1982 I just want to know why to pro-KDE uses it |
14:35.09 | annma | because we like the look of it |
14:35.12 | Klesso | what advantages has kde, that gnome doesn't have |
14:35.18 | Tron1982 | look Klesso |
14:35.20 | annma | because we like the development |
14:35.26 | Tron1982 | i think KDE is more powerfull |
14:35.30 | Tron1982 | beauty |
14:35.34 | annma | elegance |
14:35.37 | Tron1982 | very well optimized |
14:35.40 | Tron1982 | yes annma |
14:35.40 | annma | configuration |
14:36.17 | Tron1982 | ive always use gnome...beacuse a few years ago gnome was very easely and simple |
14:36.28 | Klesso | but it looks like wind... hmm you know |
14:36.29 | Tron1982 | but now actually gnome is very obsoleted |
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14:36.54 | Tron1982 | Klesso, my recomendattion is tha yu must use kde |
14:37.15 | Tron1982 | now kde is very stable and optimized |
14:37.17 | annma | Klesso: if you don't want to use it, then don't but do not write stupid things here |
14:37.18 | Klesso | Tron1982, I must ? really ? |
14:37.23 | Tron1982 | yes |
14:37.27 | annma | it looks like whatever you want it to look |
14:37.28 | Tron1982 | try to install |
14:37.33 | Klesso | no I don'like gnome |
14:37.37 | Tron1982 | an example |
14:37.40 | annma | Klesso: you can make it look like gnome as a matter of fact |
14:37.53 | Tron1982 | in gnome, try to import some pictures with the simple wellshot |
14:38.00 | annma | run a live CD and choose |
14:38.08 | pinotree | please, all, no need to do neither comparsions with gnome nor with windows |
14:38.12 | Tron1982 | and anfter that, try to import the same pictures with digikam in kde |
14:38.23 | annma | it's your freedom Klesso |
14:38.25 | juanmabc | from my point of view the gnome *user interface guidelines* for all apps is something very good for a desktop environment |
14:38.30 | Klesso | I prefer kde but I think it's too slow and heavy |
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14:38.40 | Tron1982 | not now Klesso |
14:38.45 | annma | slow and heavy? you have a 10 years old PC? |
14:38.51 | Tron1982 | the old kdes was a little slow |
14:38.56 | annma | Klesso: if you tried it, why do you asl |
14:39.00 | annma | ask |
14:39.01 | pinotree | Klesso: asking to others why you should use something, whatever it is, it is not logic at all; if you would like to use something, then try that before |
14:39.36 | annma | Klesso: either you tried it and it was slow and then use a light environment or you did not try it and you talk rubbish |
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14:40.59 | Klesso | Listen all. I don't criticize you. I just want to know kde's advantages. I don't troll, I'm not a pro-GNOME you know |
14:41.35 | Tron1982 | kdes advantages: powerful, beauty, stable, fluid, optimized... |
14:41.38 | pinotree | Klesso: we can list you all the things we find better in kde, and none of them matter to your usage at all |
14:41.42 | Tron1982 | a lot of kde native apps |
14:41.48 | Klesso | pinotree I tried it but I find kde slower than gnome |
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14:42.03 | pinotree | Klesso: if you want to know the kde advantages for _you_, then you should try |
14:42.08 | Tron1982 | yes |
14:42.16 | Tron1982 | exactly pinotree |
14:42.29 | annma | so if it's slow for your machine then use something light Klesso |
14:42.31 | pinotree | Klesso: it's up to you, you have the freedom to use whatever you prefer |
14:42.42 | pinotree | simple and easy |
14:42.58 | Klesso | pinotree, gnome apps are slow |
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14:43.03 | Tron1982 | gnome is very simple, obsoleted, ... |
14:43.05 | annma | for once you can have the freedom of choice, do not ask for other people advices |
14:43.06 | Klesso | by exemple Gparted |
14:43.10 | Tron1982 | yes |
14:43.16 | annma | Klesso: please stop with Gnome apps |
14:43.19 | Tron1982 | wellshot its a simple picture manager |
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14:44.03 | Tron1982 | by the way, Klesso you can look some youtbe vids about the two graphic desktops |
14:44.10 | pinotree | Klesso: i don't want lists of your findings |
14:44.11 | Tron1982 | some reviews |
14:44.41 | pinotree | Klesso: note also you can just use whichever applications you want, using "kde" does not mean using only kde applications (and the same with gnome, xfce, etc) |
14:44.51 | Tron1982 | really |
14:45.22 | Tron1982 | kde uses nepomuk and strigi, to make semantic searches |
14:45.25 | pinotree | Klesso: you did your finding, so now it's up to you to sum it up and use, with _absolute freedom_, whatever you want to |
14:45.26 | Tron1982 | is very powerful |
14:45.30 | pinotree | Tron1982: |
14:45.34 | pinotree | (bah) |
14:45.38 | Tron1982 | jajaja |
14:46.14 | Tron1982 | someone uses fedora 14 here? |
14:46.22 | Klesso | lol ok thanks to all. I'll keep it. Just gnome apps're slow |
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14:47.09 | Tron1982 | i dont know how to solve my floppy problem |
14:47.27 | Tron1982 | regardin the green led thath stays on |
14:47.36 | Tron1982 | when i start with fedora |
14:48.04 | Tron1982 | im trying to lod the floppy mod when i start with fedora |
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14:48.34 | Tron1982 | but when i login with kdm...the graphical interface doesnt works |
14:48.45 | Tron1982 | so y unload the module and again work fine |
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14:51.31 | Tron1982 | ok |
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14:53.38 | Huskypaw | Formerly my meta-key was the windows key but now it cycles between terminals and X. How to set it back? |
14:54.01 | Tron1982 | in kde? |
14:54.45 | Huskypaw | Yeah Tron1982, where in KDE? |
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14:54.51 | Huskypaw | I'm on 4.5.3.. |
14:54.58 | Tron1982 | ok |
14:55.36 | Tron1982 | i think you must go to system preferences |
14:56.04 | Tron1982 | keyboard access |
14:56.14 | Tron1982 | fast keyboad access |
14:56.46 | Huskypaw | There is no keyboard access |
14:56.47 | Sho_ | Huskypaw: System Settings -> Input Devices -> Keyboard -> Advanced -> Alt/Win Key Behavior |
14:56.48 | Tron1982 | but i dont remember now |
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14:59.47 | Huskypaw | Doesn't work Sho_, pressing win key still cycles through terminals and X. :( |
15:00.18 | Sho_ | sorry, dunno then |
15:00.44 | Huskypaw | Well what's your meta-key Sho_? |
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15:00.53 | Sho_ | the win key |
15:01.59 | Huskypaw | I only have to check 'Meta is mapped to Left Win', am I right? |
15:02.14 | Sho_ | yeah |
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15:02.24 | Sho_ | though I personally did not have to set anything |
15:02.29 | Sho_ | meta on win is usually the default |
15:02.36 | Sho_ | from the keyboard model/layout |
15:02.47 | Huskypaw | And when pressing meta, those stars appear? |
15:03.32 | Sho_ | stars? |
15:03.49 | Huskypaw | Yeah, those stars spinning around the cursor. |
15:04.09 | Sho_ | oh, sounds like kwin's locate cursor effect plugin? I don't have it enabled here |
15:04.20 | Sho_ | but yeah, if that reacts to meta, they would appear. |
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15:09.59 | Huskypaw | Is there a way I can see what key meta is bound to atm? |
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15:18.20 | juanmabc | what's the deal with google mail rendering?, what's a good mail provider for konqueror? |
15:18.50 | juanmabc | (upgrade your browser for faster, better Gmail) ... |
15:19.12 | thorgt | juanmabc: you can cheat :) |
15:19.22 | thorgt | ok, here you are: |
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15:19.55 | thorgt | Settings > Configure Konqueror > Browser Identification |
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15:20.34 | thorgt | there you hit "New..." and add "mail.google.com" and use say "Firefox 3.0.5" |
15:20.53 | thorgt | BUT be aware that Qt (Konaueror) rendering is SLOW in gmail |
15:21.20 | thorgt | you may experience hangups and freezes |
15:21.36 | thorgt | so better use plain HTML view or do not use gmail with konqueror |
15:21.46 | thorgt | that's it :) |
15:22.51 | realf | hi. what is the possible reason of the fact that the 'Weather' widget does not work while using proxy in OpenSuSE 11.3, KDE 4.4.4? |
15:22.58 | juanmabc | thanks, i will say konqueror is chrome and google would be happy of their stats in their world. |
15:23.18 | thorgt | do not forget to change view type in GMail |
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15:40.15 | thorgt | realf: that's the KDE second most hated bug :) |
15:40.42 | thorgt | look it up on b.k.o (bugs.kde.org). they say there that it works in kde 4.5 |
15:41.02 | thorgt | (the Big Proxy Bug) |
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15:47.17 | realf | but in Mandriva Spring 2010 it works (KDE 4.4.3)... |
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15:48.37 | ee_lars | hello |
15:49.06 | ee_lars | is there any python plasmoid developper here?? |
15:49.23 | Sho_ | ee_lars: better chance in #plasma |
15:49.59 | ee_lars | ok thanks you Sho_ :) |
15:50.12 | Sho_ | np |
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16:26.44 | GenKreton | is there a way to configure what recent documents shows in kde? |
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16:28.32 | annma | GenKreton: what do yo umean? |
16:28.48 | annma | in Kockoff? |
16:28.51 | annma | Kickof |
16:28.53 | GenKreton | annma: so it may exclude certain folders, or only show some filetypes |
16:28.56 | GenKreton | yes |
16:30.48 | annma | no I am not aware of such a feature |
16:31.05 | GenKreton | alright, thanks |
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16:35.02 | GenKreton | annma: this is probably pie-in-the-sky but you seem in the know, is it possible to get krunner plugins working in kickoff? |
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16:38.18 | annma | I think not |
16:38.28 | GenKreton | ok, thanks |
16:38.57 | annma | if I type =3+5 I get nothing while in krunner I'll get 8 |
16:39.15 | GenKreton | yeah |
16:39.21 | GenKreton | I love krunners functionality |
16:39.29 | GenKreton | if I could get wbe shortcuts working it would be perfect hehe |
16:39.52 | GenKreton | it should be trivial to change the code to use krunner in kickoff, maybe there is a technical reason not to |
16:40.59 | annma | web shortcuts should working |
16:41.06 | annma | they work on pre 4.6 |
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16:41.20 | annma | the kickoff bar is a search bar |
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16:41.25 | GenKreton | they work in konq and rekonq but not krunner despite the plugin being activated |
16:41.28 | annma | not a mini cli |
16:42.00 | GenKreton | I'm running 4.5.3 |
16:42.11 | annma | trunk here |
16:42.24 | annma | meaning pre 4.6 |
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16:42.35 | annma | so maybe they got fixed |
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16:50.10 | alin | trying to play with the taskscheduler in kde... I set up a job... some simple qt program... I click run now and works... when runs via the scheduler I get an email with I cannot connect to X |
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16:58.37 | parapente | annma, it seems there already is a bug report for the problem I have with composite and kmenu: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=247839 |
16:59.15 | parapente | it seems to have to do with xorg and the intel driver |
16:59.39 | annma | ah excellent yo ucan ad a comment in it |
17:02.26 | annma | parapente: what kernel do yo have? |
17:02.29 | annma | you |
17:02.57 | parapente | 2.6.36-gentoo |
17:03.50 | annma | when you disable direct rendering, does it work? |
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17:04.59 | parapente | unfortunately I can't disable direct rendering. If I try to do so, kwin complains that it can't use composite with these settings |
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17:45.29 | Huskypaw | My Dragon Media Player only produces video, but no sound. What can I do? |
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17:48.46 | piggz | turn the volume up? ;) |
17:50.56 | Huskypaw | piggz, doesn't work. I guess it misses a sound codec.. |
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17:51.09 | Huskypaw | Trying to emerge the newest xine-lib now.. |
17:51.21 | piggz | is it all or one video? |
17:51.41 | piggz | try playing in vlc maybe, or mplayer from the cmdline to see what codecs are used |
17:51.42 | Huskypaw | Nearly all videos. Do they coincidentally all have the same sound codec? |
17:51.52 | Huskypaw | Playing in VLC or xine works.. |
17:52.01 | Huskypaw | I want that DP working however. |
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17:53.07 | piggz | try setting a different backend in phonon |
17:53.44 | Huskypaw | What's phonon? o.O |
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17:54.48 | piggz | http://lmgtfy.com/?q=phonon+kde |
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17:56.31 | Huskypaw | What's pulseaudio? Do I really want this? |
17:57.50 | Huskypaw | Looks like phonon doesn't work.. |3 |
17:58.05 | tsimpson | pulseaudio is (basically) like what aRts was in KDE3 |
17:58.17 | Huskypaw | So I _don't_ want this. |
17:58.22 | piggz | you do |
17:58.24 | piggz | most likely |
17:58.26 | Huskypaw | Phonon should work with ALSA too? |
17:58.43 | Huskypaw | Shouldn't Phonon give sound without pulseaudio? :/ |
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17:59.07 | piggz | yes |
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17:59.21 | Huskypaw | But why doesn't it? |
17:59.25 | piggz | but, pulseaudio shouldnt be an issue, its good enough these days that it 'just works' |
17:59.41 | Huskypaw | I don't want an additional layer tho! |
18:00.05 | MoDaX | Huskypaw: just remove pulseaudio |
18:00.11 | MoDaX | Huskypaw: agreed |
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18:00.28 | piggz | depending on your distro, you might not have a choice |
18:00.32 | Huskypaw | Well still I have no audio.. |
18:00.38 | Huskypaw | It's Gentoo; I have lots of. |
18:00.51 | Huskypaw | Sound works on Firefox.. |
18:00.52 | MoDaX | Huskypaw: does aplay /dev/urandom work? |
18:00.56 | Huskypaw | Flash plugin.. |
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18:01.14 | Huskypaw | Oh yes it does, MoDaX. |
18:01.24 | piggz | tell phonon to use the xine backend |
18:01.29 | piggz | it might be using gstreamer |
18:02.28 | tsimpson | afaik, pulseaudio does have a tendency to lock the sound device, so nothing else can use it (not even ALSA) |
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18:25.26 | Huskypaw | Still no sound in KDE, but firefox, flash plugin, xine and all other do produce sound |
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18:28.38 | saidinesh5 | Huskypaw: i had an issue like this, when phonon was configured to use alsa and skype uses pulseaudio |
18:29.01 | saidinesh5 | so one gets the lock and |
18:29.15 | saidinesh5 | the other doesn't work, in my case the kde apps... |
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18:30.43 | Huskypaw | saidinesh5, how did you resolve this? |
18:31.16 | saidinesh5 | changing phonon's device to pulse audio too... |
18:32.12 | saidinesh5 | that would be in the "device preferences" |
18:32.16 | saidinesh5 | of configuring phonon |
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18:32.51 | Huskypaw | Where's that section, saidinesh5? |
18:34.00 | saidinesh5 | hmm.... well i currently am not in kde, but it should be in system settings or you can go there by amarok > settings > configure amarok > playback > configure phonon |
18:34.23 | saidinesh5 | can't live without amarok, so installed it even in his ubuntu environment |
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18:34.50 | Huskypaw | Phonon can't get any audio out of my device. |
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18:35.06 | Huskypaw | Does it want me to have deprecated support in kernel? |
18:35.12 | Huskypaw | Like old OSS stuff 'n alike? |
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18:35.56 | saidinesh5 | no.. i dont think so |
18:36.15 | saidinesh5 | probably you didnt install the corresponding backend |
18:36.18 | Huskypaw | Wait.. |
18:36.20 | Huskypaw | It works! |
18:36.22 | saidinesh5 | :) |
18:36.39 | Huskypaw | But still I'd really like to have it work directly with ALSA.. |
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18:37.02 | saidinesh5 | as in ? |
18:37.20 | Huskypaw | Firefox and Flash are using ALSA directly too |
18:37.43 | saidinesh5 | and what does your phonon use? |
18:38.13 | saidinesh5 | you might have to install phonon-alsa backend if it isnt there (i had to install phonon-pulse) |
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18:39.13 | Huskypaw | Oooh, thanks for that advice saidinesh5! |
18:39.23 | saidinesh5 | :) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio |
18:39.27 | Huskypaw | So Dragon Player only uses Phonon, but never ALSA directly? |
18:39.40 | saidinesh5 | yes.. atleast thats what i think |
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19:11.16 | Huskypaw | Now the sound test in Phonon does work, but Dragon Player still doesn't do sound and even no video now. Shortly after start, it crashes and takes whole KDE with it.. |
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19:16.33 | saidinesh5 | it never crashed the whole of the KDE for me Huskypaw... could you please test it by closing all other non kde applications? |
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19:18.03 | annma | Huskypaw: also pastebin the crash backtrace |
19:20.53 | saidinesh5 | annma: looks like another crash ^^ |
19:22.03 | annma | lol |
19:22.37 | annma | too bad, a backtrace usually gives a lot of clues on what's wrong |
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19:26.49 | saidinesh5 | +1 |
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19:43.49 | Huskypaw | Again, sound test of Phonon works but Dragon Player only displays filename, not even video anymore and no sound then crashes and takes KDE with it. |
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19:47.48 | EffBee | Use a different Phonon backend. |
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19:49.25 | annma | pastebin crash backtrace please Huskypaw |
19:49.29 | thiago | Huskypaw: how can KDE crash? What exactly crashed? |
19:49.31 | annma | so I can see what is wrong |
19:49.51 | Huskypaw | Well that will take a while.. I'm gonna watch a movie now. |
19:50.00 | annma | your call |
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20:34.30 | bodom | Hi there. May someone help me with network manager? My interfaces are displayed as "unamanaged" and I can't make them work |
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20:51.03 | saidinesh5 | bodom: try starting your networkmanager with sudo |
20:52.17 | bodom | saidinesh5: it's already running as root |
20:54.08 | saidinesh5 | hmm.. sorry, last i had a similar problem doing that helped me... |
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21:00.44 | bodom | solved :) |
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21:13.38 | davidfoley | Hi Guys, what is the quivalent of Gnome Seahorse in KDE? |
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21:15.36 | Kame2 | davidfoley: you should describe what seahorse does. |
21:17.14 | davidfoley | Sorry Seahorse is a password and encryption key management application |
21:17.34 | saidinesh5 | kwallet manages all the passwords |
21:17.40 | saidinesh5 | in kde |
21:18.03 | saidinesh5 | http://utils.kde.org/projects/kwalletmanager/ |
21:20.27 | pinotree | kwalletmanager |
21:20.44 | pinotree | ... for password, while kgpg for gpg keys |
21:22.28 | pinotree | or also kleopatra for gpg keys and certificates |
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21:35.53 | devilpt_ | hi |
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21:36.10 | devilpt_ | anyone? |
21:37.24 | devilpt_ | i cant decide a kde distro |
21:37.27 | devilpt_ | -.- |
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21:40.35 | pino_rm_my_ban | pinotree can u pls remove my ban ? |
21:40.40 | pino_rm_my_ban | i love you |
21:41.31 | pino_rm_my_ban | pinotree pls :( |
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21:43.07 | kushou | <PROTECTED> |
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21:43.22 | devilpt_ | kushou es tuga? |
21:43.28 | kushou | no |
21:43.32 | pinotree | i didn't want to do that, but if he insists... |
21:44.30 | devilpt_ | anyone can help decide a kde distro? |
21:44.37 | devilpt_ | me* |
21:45.49 | devilpt_ | or it's better to ask in other channel? |
21:47.30 | saidinesh5 | devilpt_: whats your expertise level? |
21:47.38 | ompaul | devilpt_: try this list, http://www.kde.org/download/distributions.php |
21:47.41 | devilpt_ | little |
21:47.55 | devilpt_ | i already read it |
21:48.09 | devilpt_ | i was thinking about mandrive or opensuse |
21:48.19 | saidinesh5 | well i personally found suse really polished and stable |
21:48.30 | devilpt_ | but now im using mint kde |
21:48.36 | devilpt_ | and it's a bit unstable |
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21:48.51 | saidinesh5 | hmm.. yes i felt it so... |
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21:49.29 | devilpt_ | i ve read many good things about arch |
21:49.32 | saidinesh5 | i found Suse a really nice and polished desktop experience.... |
21:49.42 | saidinesh5 | yes, i personally use arch.... |
21:50.00 | saidinesh5 | but if you are a newbie, it can be a bit of pain to edit the configuration files by hand |
21:50.24 | devilpt_ | im going to intall it on another computer |
21:50.37 | devilpt_ | to learn ^^ |
21:50.48 | saidinesh5 | but once set up(after a really painful setup process) you are always on cutting edge software, and is nice and stable |
21:51.15 | saidinesh5 | and once you get the hang of it, you know exactly where to look under the hood if anything doesnt work |
21:51.31 | devilpt_ | yeah |
21:51.44 | devilpt_ | but im not going to install it on my main |
21:51.49 | devilpt_ | computer |
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21:52.31 | saidinesh5 | ahh.. make sure that you have a good internet connection(anything better than a dial up) and a bit of time on your hands |
21:52.41 | saidinesh5 | you ll learn a lot on arch |
21:53.21 | devilpt_ | my internet is good at home |
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21:53.43 | devilpt_ | but i dont stay much time in home -.- |
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21:53.56 | saidinesh5 | hmm... |
21:54.22 | saidinesh5 | well to help you decide, when you first install arch, the only thing you have at your disposal is a terminal and a connection to the internet |
21:54.49 | devilpt_ | i have more |
21:54.50 | saidinesh5 | you will have to install *everything* by hand (starting from the drivers and X to the whole of KDE) |
21:54.56 | devilpt_ | i have a second computer ^^ |
21:54.57 | devilpt_ | xD |
21:55.24 | saidinesh5 | hehe |
21:55.41 | saidinesh5 | you can use that to keep the arch beginner's wiki open |
21:55.43 | saidinesh5 | while installing |
21:55.52 | devilpt_ | yes |
21:56.01 | devilpt_ | i loved the documentation of arch linux |
21:56.18 | saidinesh5 | +1 they explained it all at one place... |
21:56.50 | devilpt_ | yeah |
21:57.26 | devilpt_ | but the community is not very noob friendly |
21:57.33 | devilpt_ | i think |
21:57.36 | saidinesh5 | hehe... |
21:57.47 | saidinesh5 | arch expects you to know what you are dealing with |
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21:58.36 | saidinesh5 | if something doesnt work, you must be able to tell what doesnt work...(if you have figured out what doesnt work, you really are half way through solving the problem ;) ) |
21:59.16 | devilpt_ | ^^ |
21:59.37 | devilpt_ | and packages? |
21:59.51 | saidinesh5 | you have them all |
21:59.58 | devilpt_ | nice |
22:00.03 | saidinesh5 | basically arch's package manager is pacman |
22:00.21 | saidinesh5 | in which you have most packages packaged for arch |
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22:01.00 | saidinesh5 | if you can't find anything in there, you can look in AUR or use the tool called yaourt, which automatically brings the package you need from the net and compiles it for your PC |
22:01.24 | devilpt_ | i dont need to compile it? |
22:01.32 | saidinesh5 | it does it for you.. |
22:02.09 | saidinesh5 | so if pacman -S <package> doesnt work for you, yaourt -S <package> will work the magic |
22:02.10 | devilpt_ | that's a relieve |
22:02.45 | saidinesh5 | yes |
22:03.01 | devilpt_ | im going to install arch linux on my netbook |
22:03.17 | devilpt_ | its an eeepc1005HA |
22:03.26 | saidinesh5 | oh... |
22:03.35 | devilpt_ | do you think that i can put gnome? |
22:03.36 | saidinesh5 | i dont think you will face any problems with that |
22:03.38 | saidinesh5 | yes |
22:03.51 | saidinesh5 | arch has both kde and gnome in the default repositories |
22:04.29 | devilpt_ | kde is a bit heavy to it |
22:04.37 | saidinesh5 | and when you install arch all you get is a blank terminal |
22:04.39 | devilpt_ | but i like kde |
22:04.50 | devilpt_ | i love the plasma thing |
22:04.50 | saidinesh5 | so you can remove all the bloat while installing |
22:05.04 | saidinesh5 | yeah .. i love it too (although my nvidia card hates it) |
22:05.12 | devilpt_ | i xD |
22:05.32 | devilpt_ | i already seen some tutorial a read a bit of the wiki |
22:05.48 | devilpt_ | tutorials* |
22:05.50 | saidinesh5 | oh then you can directly jump into it.. |
22:05.58 | devilpt_ | (sorry for my porr english xD) |
22:06.08 | saidinesh5 | hehe its okay.. |
22:06.11 | devilpt_ | poor* |
22:06.32 | devilpt_ | it's better to play safe |
22:06.50 | saidinesh5 | had more fun when he tried arch without reading the wiki and broke something and then read the wiki to fix it |
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22:07.02 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:07.39 | devilpt_ | that's why i only want arch on my netbook |
22:08.00 | devilpt_ | for a time at least |
22:08.04 | saidinesh5 | well if i were you , the first thing i ll read is how to setup networking on arch |
22:08.14 | devilpt_ | yeah |
22:08.32 | devilpt_ | but now im more focused on my main |
22:08.33 | saidinesh5 | cuz once thats there, everything else is just a matter of installing |
22:08.45 | saidinesh5 | as in? |
22:09.05 | devilpt_ | i need a stable kde newbie-friendly distro xD |
22:09.54 | devilpt_ | do you think that it's worth to install openSUSE instead of mandriva? |
22:09.56 | saidinesh5 | well i ve tried both Suse and Kubuntu... both fit your description |
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22:10.07 | devilpt_ | kubuntu is like mint kde |
22:10.08 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:10.13 | devilpt_ | or worst |
22:10.37 | saidinesh5 | yes, mint kde is someone setting up your kubuntu fr you :D |
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22:11.50 | devilpt_ | yeah its sad that ubuntu's main DE is gnome xD |
22:12.24 | devilpt_ | if it was KDE i didnt think twice linux mint all the way! |
22:12.24 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:12.27 | saidinesh5 | is on ubuntu with all kde apps: dolphin yakuake quassel kontact parley and not to forget amaROCK!! |
22:13.02 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:13.28 | devilpt_ | the ubuntu's community is very good |
22:13.37 | devilpt_ | and mint's to |
22:13.59 | devilpt_ | i dont know much about opensuse |
22:14.21 | saidinesh5 | neither do i |
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22:18.18 | devilpt_ | there isn't a portuguese community in openSUSE neither Mandriva (and Mandriva have many brazilian developers) |
22:18.22 | devilpt_ | :( |
22:19.07 | saidinesh5 | oh i dont know about that... all i can remember is seeing a lot of foreign language posts in ubuntu forums |
22:19.26 | saidinesh5 | and they dont mind questions from other linux distros too.. |
22:20.05 | devilpt_ | but it's lame |
22:20.19 | saidinesh5 | hehe... no idea.. |
22:20.28 | devilpt_ | im not going to leech another community xD |
22:20.41 | devilpt_ | but se this http://forum.archlinux-br.org/ xD |
22:21.20 | saidinesh5 | ah google chrome's language translation feature rocks!! |
22:21.40 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:21.56 | devilpt_ | its a portuguese speaking community |
22:22.23 | devilpt_ | (its ashame that is brazilian xD) |
22:22.26 | saidinesh5 | that reminds me, arch's wiki was more than enough for all my arch related problems |
22:22.43 | saidinesh5 | never touched arch forums till date |
22:23.13 | devilpt_ | but i like to involving in the community |
22:23.19 | devilpt_ | to help others |
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22:23.23 | devilpt_ | and to help linux |
22:23.48 | saidinesh5 | ya .. i really wonder what if i wasnt introduced to this whole community thing |
22:24.21 | devilpt_ | the bigest problem is that i cant write english -.- |
22:24.36 | devilpt_ | but i can understand it quite well |
22:25.00 | saidinesh5 | oh... i would think that.. i mean i understood everything that you wrote |
22:25.11 | saidinesh5 | so isnt that english ? ;) |
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22:26.22 | devilpt_ | yeah but it's a bit lame to write with a lot of errors |
22:26.36 | devilpt_ | grammar errors |
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22:27.10 | saidinesh5 | i wouldnt worry about that... |
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22:28.41 | devilpt_ | but the worst part is the english technical expressions that i dont know |
22:29.16 | devilpt_ | i know to solve a problem but i dont know how to say it |
22:29.36 | devilpt_ | and is to technical to google translation to help xD |
22:30.02 | saidinesh5 | hmm... |
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22:43.11 | kushou | pinotree: now you could deban vodafone's portuguese users and just ban the boring guy ? |
22:44.14 | pinotree | kushou: there are already 5 bans on him, but if he changes nick, indent and ip, dunno what else resort to |
22:45.34 | kushou | you could try to ban a channel he is in and nobody else uses |
22:46.08 | kushou | but, if i fond out the channel is ban, he just have to /part to join #kde again |
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22:46.21 | kushou | find* |
22:46.35 | pinotree | yes, he want to come here, where he trolled a week ago (or two) |
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22:47.06 | kushou | I was there, I saw :) |
22:50.58 | devilpt_ | yes it's an atack to my country!!! |
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22:51.04 | devilpt_ | xD |
22:51.26 | pinotree | ... |
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22:55.38 | devilpt_ | this chat is always quiet? |
22:57.56 | pinotree | depends |
22:59.21 | devilpt_ | if my kde crashes what i must do to restart it? |
22:59.57 | devilpt_ | until now i had to do a soft reboot |
23:00.38 | pinotree | what do you mean with "kde crashes"? that wallpaper and panels disappear, or that you get brought back to the login screen? |
23:01.02 | devilpt_ | kde freezes |
23:01.09 | devilpt_ | and i cant do nothing |
23:01.19 | devilpt_ | except ctrl + alt + f1 |
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23:03.58 | devilpt_ | in linux mint kde it happen many times |
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23:05.24 | devilpt_ | and in opensuse live cd happen to (but i think thats normal) |
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23:38.16 | oneforall | annma, figured it out . been so long since I ran glxinfo glxgears but " Error: glXCreateContext failed" need I say more ;D |
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23:40.00 | oneforall | I see thou Xrender still doesn't work with those, cube, desktop cube animation etc |
23:40.35 | oneforall | never used that before anyway , always picked opengl. So I don't know if that ever worked |
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23:47.03 | zePh7r | hey people, I'm using opensuse 11.3 with kde 4.4.4 and ever since the start I noticed my desktop effects were kind of choppy. I have a mobility radeon graphics card, usind the x11 opensource drivers (have never messed with the binary ones). Am I missing anything? |
23:48.08 | zePh7r | oh, and my card is kind of good and well supported by the drivers, since I'm using it, it never happened to crash X |
23:48.34 | oneforall | hmm, weird the bottom kicker(panel) has white borders around it now in 4.5.3 |
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23:58.58 | maazu | nice day |
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