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| 00:25.58 | ryan__ | hello |
| 00:26.11 | ryan__ | how can I install kde 4.5.2 in fedora? |
| 00:26.38 | _stijn_ | yum install kde-desktop ? :p |
| 00:27.01 | _stijn_ | maybe you can google that question before executing that command |
| 00:27.40 | ryan__ | No package kde-desktop available. |
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| 00:44.44 | sharp15 | junkDawgie: how did you send that comment about kbuildsycoca4? |
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| 01:04.28 | padde | soft masked?? |
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| 01:05.00 | Jucato | Oleg_: please ask in #gentoo-kde |
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| 01:05.40 | Oleg_ | ok |
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| 01:09.46 | srk9 | I am running KDE 4.5.2 on Gentoo Linux and I have Amarok installed at the moment. I do not like the interface very well, so I thought I would try out something called Clementine, which is a fork of Amarok. Since Clementine is a fork of Amarok, it would not surprise me if the two conflicted with one another in terms of storing their databases. Does anyone know if that is the case? |
| 01:10.38 | srk9 | Basically, I want to switch back and forth between them until I decide which one I like better and I am concerned that one might corrupt another's music database. |
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| 01:16.04 | _stijn_ | you can use an mysql database |
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| 01:16.29 | avdg | or sqlite |
| 01:16.56 | _stijn_ | amarok uses MySQL |
| 01:17.27 | _stijn_ | just go to settings > Amarok settings and click "Database" tab srk9 |
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| 01:18.59 | quhan | is there someone know how to read xml file in konqueror? |
| 01:20.14 | junkDawgie | you can read them unchanged with the "preview in text editor" selection of the context menu, quhan |
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| 01:23.43 | quhan | junkDawgie, I want use a xslt file to transfer xml... I mean open a xml, it appears a HTML view.. |
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| 01:25.01 | paleywiener | hullo, I'm trying to add a button to the KDE tool-bar which opens a folder when clicked, trouble is, I don't know which action to select.. is there a way for me to get a list of actions from sycoca? Are actions stored in sycoca? I have ktradertest but no ktraderclient (lenny) |
| 01:25.03 | junkDawgie | sorry then, quhan... i thought you merely wanted to see inside an existing file.... |
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| 02:15.43 | PovAddict | how do I move a file to the trash from the command line? |
| 02:16.56 | PovAddict | "ktrash --help" tells me to use "kfmclient move foo trash:/", and doing that says 'move' is not a valid kfmclient command |
| 02:17.36 | thrice` | you're just trying to remove a file, or you need to go be in the trash? |
| 02:17.55 | PovAddict | well I know I can just do 'rm', but that's not the point :) |
| 02:18.42 | thrice` | well ;) |
| 02:19.50 | PovAddict | aha! the correct command is "kioclient move" |
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| 02:20.47 | PovAddict | LANG=es translation error :) |
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| 02:22.04 | srk9 | Does anyone know if it is possible to make amarok automatically loop after it has finished playing a playlist? |
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| 02:22.46 | PovAddict | srk9: yes |
| 02:23.00 | PovAddict | click the rightmost button at the bottom of the playlist |
| 02:23.15 | PovAddict | you can choose repeat and random options there |
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| 02:25.50 | srk9 | PovAddict: That is incredibly difficult to discover. I would have never found it. |
| 02:26.14 | PovAddict | srk9: Amarok cares about usability, please file a bug and/or complain in #amarok |
| 02:26.41 | srk9 | PovAddict: I will add it to my to do list. I have too many bug reports to file for different things and too much offline work to do to be able to file them. :/ |
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| 02:43.58 | PovAddict | thrice`: 'kioclient move foo trash:/' worked, and I fixed the translation :) |
| 02:44.18 | thrice` | I was just going to suggest rm originally :p |
| 02:44.40 | thrice` | nice to know, though; probably a move to ~/.local/share/Trash some place might work too |
| 02:45.44 | PovAddict | trash dir has a bunch of metadata like date of deletion and original location |
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| 02:55.08 | Elv13 | I get this millions of time and applications dont work as expected (broken kio, mimetype, kparts) |
| 02:55.14 | Elv13 | (KSycoca) KSycoca::flagError: ERROR: KSycoca database corruption! |
| 02:55.22 | Elv13 | how do I remove this database |
| 02:55.41 | Elv13 | kbuildsycoca4 crash |
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| 02:57.18 | PovAddict | Elv13: try: kbuildsycoca4 --noincremental |
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| 02:58.31 | Elv13 | PovAddict: no |
| 02:58.37 | Elv13 | don't help |
| 02:58.57 | Elv13 | it went infinite loop in fact |
| 02:59.25 | Elv13 | I will have to kill kbuildsycoca4, "less" now show me more than 100k error line |
| 02:59.52 | Elv13 | how yo I just truely delete the broken DB? |
| 03:00.24 | PovAddict | it's in /var/tmp/kdecache-yourusername/ksycoca4 |
| 03:00.48 | Elv13 | PovAddict: already tried that, in .kde and /tmp too, I deleted every references to kde |
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| 03:01.11 | PovAddict | ...what do you mean "every reference to KDE"? |
| 03:01.36 | PovAddict | you aren't supposed to delete ~/.kde |
| 03:01.53 | Elv13 | PovAddict: I moved it, it does not help |
| 03:02.48 | Elv13 | it is supposed to be 4.5.2. I have 4.6 svn too, but it's not enable for this account |
| 03:03.09 | Elv13 | lsof show no open files in the 4.6 prefix |
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| 03:06.41 | Elv13 | it's probably due to Qt 4.7 |
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| 03:08.13 | Licuadora | hello |
| 03:08.45 | Licuadora | I am using a new distro, but I wanto to know what version I have, like, if I am using 32 bits or 32 bits |
| 03:09.00 | Licuadora | What's the Terminal command for know that? |
| 03:09.01 | PovAddict | 32 or 32? |
| 03:09.11 | Licuadora | I mean, 64 bits |
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| 03:09.34 | Elv13 | uname -a |
| 03:09.38 | Licuadora | PovAddict, tu eres español... |
| 03:09.44 | Elv13 | no relation to kde, but it's uname -a |
| 03:09.52 | PovAddict | that's not related to kde anyway, I'd ask #yourdistro |
| 03:10.09 | Licuadora | Bactrack |
| 03:10.22 | Licuadora | 4 |
| 03:10.32 | Elv13 | they have an IRC channal too |
| 03:10.54 | PovAddict | join #backtrack-es |
| 03:11.01 | Elv13 | kde is just the front end, the GUI shell, not the distribution |
| 03:11.02 | Licuadora | It says here is 2.6.30.09 it's a little bit older |
| 03:11.20 | PovAddict | that's the kernel version |
| 03:11.24 | Licuadora | does i686 means 64 bits? |
| 03:11.31 | PovAddict | no, that's 32-bits |
| 03:11.35 | Licuadora | damn!! |
| 03:11.47 | PovAddict | my Debian system says: 2.6.32-5-amd64 |
| 03:12.05 | PovAddict | Linux tahu 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Sep 17 21:50:19 UTC 2010 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 03:12.05 | Licuadora | I should have known... |
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| 03:12.46 | Licuadora | I still have not install Backtrack |
| 03:13.03 | Licuadora | Hey, can I have KDE in Ubuntu along with Gnome? |
| 03:13.22 | Licuadora | Like, in the Login screen, choose between gnome and kde? |
| 03:13.24 | Elv13 | 32bit work on 64bit system too, there is no point to have 64bit if you have less than 16 gig of ram (4 recommanded) |
| 03:13.39 | PovAddict | Licuadora: yes, but again, that's a #ubuntu question, not #kde |
| 03:13.54 | Elv13 | The login screen of Gnome is not recommanded with KDE, it will disable some functions |
| 03:13.55 | Licuadora | I have 4gb and plan to insert 4gb on a stick |
| 03:14.11 | Elv13 | 32bit is fine with a bigmem kernel |
| 03:14.25 | miasma | hmm, any idea what the aperture values are supposed to mean in gwenview's file property dialog? 194698/65536 :S |
| 03:14.35 | Licuadora | So.... i should go to Ubuntu, eh? |
| 03:14.38 | miasma | is it somewhere near f/2.8 :F |
| 03:15.06 | PovAddict | Licuadora: you should go to #ubuntu to ask Ubuntu questions, or to #backtrack-linux to ask Backtrack questions |
| 03:15.18 | Licuadora | oh... |
| 03:15.39 | Licuadora | Since the GUI was KDE, i thought you where gonna help |
| 03:15.58 | Licuadora | but that's ok, i'll leave |
| 03:16.55 | break19 | Licuadora: while you're at it, go ask Michelin about starter problems on your car, because you have Michelin tires on it.... |
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| 03:17.31 | PovAddict | lol |
| 03:17.31 | Licuadora | break19: People can be so cruel sometimes |
| 03:17.43 | PovAddict | it's for your benefit |
| 03:17.49 | PovAddict | you'll get better help in the specific channels |
| 03:18.10 | PovAddict | probably few people here used backtrack |
| 03:18.51 | miasma | why do people spend so much time educating new users to ask questions on the right channel.. wouldn't it be just simpler to say 'yes' to a simple question :F |
| 03:19.30 | Licuadora | miasma: You tell them man! |
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| 03:20.24 | PovAddict | miasma: 194698/65536 seems to be f/2.8 indeed |
| 03:21.11 | Elv13 | cs |
| 03:21.13 | Elv13 | oops |
| 03:21.15 | Licuadora | I'll leave. thank you very much |
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| 03:22.23 | miasma | PovAddict: apparently the following versions of gwenview use more familiar notation, starting from some future version of kde |
| 03:22.47 | PovAddict | 194698/65536 is what is stored in the image's metadata |
| 03:22.58 | PovAddict | so it seems gwenview shows it as-is instead of converting |
| 03:23.01 | miasma | yes, but e.g. exiv2 shows F2.8 |
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| 03:23.31 | quintopia | how can i fix the size of my panel for netbooks which has been accidentally mis-sized in KDE 4.4.2 (Kubuntu Lucid)? |
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| 03:23.41 | PovAddict | miasma: my point is: it's not a bug, it's an (important) missing feature :) |
| 03:23.46 | quintopia | (it's about half the height it should be) |
| 03:23.49 | miasma | PovAddict: ok =) |
| 03:24.44 | break19 | quintopia: click the "cashew" on the panel, should bring up another panel on top of your current panel, click_drag where it says height, to the height you want it to be |
| 03:25.15 | quintopia | ah |
| 03:25.30 | miasma | PovAddict: gwenview should probably also get a cr2 preview feature |
| 03:25.43 | miasma | it seems to display cr2 files just fine and dolphin already previews them |
| 03:26.08 | miasma | s/preview/thumbnail/ |
| 03:26.18 | quintopia | hrm |
| 03:26.50 | quintopia | there is no cashew on the panel, and the cashew on the plasma-netbook desktop container doesn't seem to want to let me modify that |
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| 03:27.21 | break19 | unlock widgets and do it again |
| 03:27.40 | break19 | when you lock the widgets, it removes the cashew from the panel(s) |
| 03:27.53 | quintopia | nvm |
| 03:28.04 | quintopia | had to unlock the panel separately, then it showed up |
| 03:28.10 | break19 | bingo :) |
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| 03:33.33 | Drone4four | how do I make my panel bigger? i'm running KDE 4.4.2. I searched Google and checked the KDE dox but couldn't find an an answer to my question |
| 03:33.40 | quintopia | haha |
| 03:34.08 | quintopia | i just asked that |
| 03:34.39 | quintopia | unlock panel, click cashew, a new panel pops up under it with a "height" button. click and drag said button to adjust panel height |
| 03:34.43 | break19 | then it is your turn to pass on the secret :) |
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| 03:35.15 | Drone4four | ah i see |
| 03:35.19 | Drone4four | ty quintopia =D |
| 03:35.22 | break19 | and thus, the knowledge pool is expanded yet again. |
| 03:35.23 | quintopia | =D |
| 03:35.30 | quintopia | kthxbai |
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| 03:54.05 | ryan__ | I installed kde and now my wifi isn't working...it worked fine in gnome...does any one know what the issue is and how I can fix it? |
| 03:54.39 | xaphir | ryan__: try wicd |
| 03:54.57 | xaphir | what distro you running? |
| 03:55.05 | ryan__ | 4.5.2 |
| 03:55.13 | xaphir | distro |
| 03:55.22 | ryan__ | I was on 4.4 and it wasn't working there either so I tried upgrading |
| 03:55.28 | xaphir | I said what distro |
| 03:55.29 | ryan__ | fedora 14 |
| 03:55.43 | xaphir | go to atrpms.net and use those repos to get wicd |
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| 03:55.58 | ryan__ | ok thanks |
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| 03:56.18 | xaphir | ryan__: make sure that wicd is running as a service before you work the wicd ui |
| 03:56.27 | xaphir | chkconfig at the konsole |
| 03:57.42 | ryan__ | thanks |
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| 04:28.15 | vinleod | I have a keyboard layout that doesn't show up in the configuration window for KDE Keyboard Layout Switcher, but if I invoke setkbmap in Konsole with that layout, I can select it within the layout switcher. How do I get it to show up permanently in the configuration window? Fedora 13; KDE 4.4.5 |
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| 05:14.24 | rindolf | Hi all. After today's Mandriva Linux Cooker upgrade I'm getting "KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now. The error was:Unknown resource" when starting KMail and then it closes abruptly. Help!!! |
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| 05:31.07 | rindolf | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=250747 - here's the bug. |
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| 06:06.58 | Dracos | hey all, how do I fix this: http://imgur.com/ckhdJ.png |
| 06:07.17 | Dracos | the "About KDE" menu item is that high in every kde app |
| 06:08.30 | thiago_home | never seen that... |
| 06:08.35 | thiago_home | I didn't even know that was possible |
| 06:09.24 | Dracos | it's that high even when it's not actually a menu item |
| 06:09.57 | Dracos | I think I saw it as an icon in a dialog sidebar once |
| 06:11.41 | Dracos | konsole, kate, dolphin, quassel, every app |
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| 06:35.59 | Zombie | Hello. |
| 06:37.35 | Zombie | I've noticed a problem with my WahCade setup since Migrating to KDE 4. |
| 06:37.47 | Zombie | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.56 | Zombie | But now, it asks for confirmation from kfmclient. |
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| 08:46.57 | phrearch | hi |
| 08:47.08 | phrearch | any idea how i can convince kate to save its settings? |
| 08:47.16 | phrearch | i tried modifying vim ~/.kde4/share/apps/kate/sessions/Default%20Session.katesession but that wouldnt work |
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| 08:53.42 | seeg | hello |
| 08:53.59 | seeg | i have multimedia keys in my laptop and when the amarok window is in focus i can use them |
| 08:54.19 | seeg | is there a way to use these keys in amarok when i'm working in another window, i.e. amarok is not in focus? |
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| 08:58.12 | dpy | hi guys |
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| 08:59.02 | dpy | anyone here using kdesvn? I'm trying to get a revision tree of the repository, but kdesvn just gives an empty dialog. It seems to retrieve the information, but it doesn't display any resulting graph... |
| 08:59.20 | seeg | ah, ok, i did this with xbindkeys ;) |
| 08:59.22 | dpy | I've tried Mandriva, Ubuntu, building it myself... |
| 08:59.48 | sturles | After upgrading to KDE4 all users are creating a .local/share/akonadi/db_data directory containing 140 MiB of data. This quickly ate all space on the /home partition. How can this be avoided? I have about 2000 users, and 140 MiB is more than 95% of them used before. My RAIDS and backup system is not scaled for this. |
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| 10:44.30 | simion314 | hi, i am trying to setup a dul montor in kubuntu 10.04, the Display and monitors section in system settings is ubuntu specific or is part of kde? |
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| 10:46.47 | Kame2 | simion314: this is part of kde |
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| 10:49.56 | simion314 | Kame2: i am trying to using it but i faield, i get no result and no error message or something to point me in the right direction, do i need to install other apps (i can't find many recent posts on the forums to apply to my situation), |
| 10:50.39 | Kame2 | simion314: please provide more details. what exactly are you doing, what do you expect and what does happen? |
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| 10:54.43 | simion314 | Kame2: i have a laptop and i atached a monitor to it, i want to have a for start this monitors diplay difrent things,or a virtual desktop each or to split one desktop like in windows |
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| 10:56.14 | simion314 | now i have same thins in both monitors and the resolution of the smaller one, the changes in system settings will not affect anything, and after restarting system settings they come back to default, i get no error message |
| 10:57.05 | Kame2 | so you select, say, first monitor below second and you still get a clone, right? |
| 10:57.05 | simion314 | Kame2: tried this now http://pastebin.com/1eunf0xW but i do not know what is the problem or if kde uses this think in background of the system settings |
| 10:57.30 | simion314 | Kame2: yes, i still get a clone |
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| 10:59.37 | simion314 | should i join a canel for xorg or linux to get more help? i would be nice if the kde system settings will print the errors it finds |
| 11:00.32 | Kame2 | give me a moment. i try to reproduce |
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| 11:05.23 | Kame2 | for me it works as expected |
| 11:07.33 | Kame2 | so maybe your display controler cannot handle the size you want. not enaugh memory or such |
| 11:07.58 | Kame2 | still, you are right that there should be a error message displayed |
| 11:08.07 | Kame2 | please fill a bug at bugs.kde.org |
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| 11:09.28 | simion314 | Kame2: ok,it is posible to have a virtual desktop in one screen and other in other screen? or this stuff is to low level to know about kde virtual desktops? |
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| 11:10.24 | Kame2 | i don't know if this is possible. i would say no, but don't know it for sure |
| 11:15.36 | simion314 | Kame2: do you have a xorg.conf? |
| 11:16.01 | Kame2 | no |
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| 12:04.20 | Kubuntiac | Can someone try installing the Workspace theme "Breathe" (on KDE-look / System Settings -> Workspace Appearence -> Get new Themes) and let me know if it installs properly for you? (ie you can see Breathe listed with Oxygen and Air as selectable themes) |
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| 12:06.11 | annma | Kubuntiac: I am looking |
| 12:06.21 | annma | do yo uhave the kde-look url by any chance? |
| 12:06.47 | cb400f | and what kde version? .. maybe you have the one with unzip problems (4.5.1?) |
| 12:07.02 | annma | from SystemSettings -> Workspace Appearance -> Desktop Theme -> Get New Themes it seems not to be a desktop theme |
| 12:07.07 | annma | cb400f: no |
| 12:07.12 | annma | it seems to be icons |
| 12:07.19 | annma | not a desktop theme |
| 12:07.26 | cb400f | ah ;-) |
| 12:07.30 | annma | I run trunk |
| 12:07.32 | Spida | Is this (taskbar entries being displayed on top of each other) a known bug? http://spida.net/tmp/taskbar-broken-screenshot1.png |
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| 12:08.30 | annma | Kubuntiac: probably the category of this add-on is wrong, if you have the kde-look URL that would help me |
| 12:08.38 | Kubuntiac | k. one sec |
| 12:08.56 | Kubuntiac | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Breathe?content=133873 |
| 12:08.57 | annma | Spida: when did that happen? what kde version? |
| 12:09.01 | Kubuntiac | (Plasma theme) |
| 12:09.22 | Kubuntiac | It has icons and an altered panel |
| 12:09.37 | annma | let me look |
| 12:09.42 | Spida | annma: 4.4.5. |
| 12:09.45 | Spida | debian |
| 12:09.52 | annma | in any case, nothing appears on the list Kubuntiac |
| 12:10.09 | annma | Spida: this happens on a new Debian install of 4.4.5? |
| 12:10.16 | Spida | yes. |
| 12:10.20 | annma | as a default new install? |
| 12:10.37 | annma | i.e; on a new user as well? |
| 12:10.43 | Kubuntiac | :/ ok, thx annma! |
| 12:10.58 | Spida | I changed the size of the panel and added a few... widgets or what they are called now, obviously |
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| 12:11.27 | annma | Spida: file a bug then with exact steps to reproduce |
| 12:11.45 | annma | what panel size, what did you add, and so on |
| 12:12.01 | Spida | ok, will do |
| 12:12.56 | annma | Kubuntiac: first this so called theme does not install anything in .kde4/share/apps/desktoptheme/ |
| 12:13.07 | annma | that's where the desktop themes should be installed locally |
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| 12:13.34 | Kubuntiac | Thats where it is on my pc... |
| 12:13.46 | annma | is it installed there correctly? |
| 12:14.00 | annma | from the Get New Themes dialog? |
| 12:14.07 | Kubuntiac | I just zipped up ~/.kde/share/apps/desktoptheme/mytheme folder and uploaded... |
| 12:14.31 | annma | you mean you are the author of this thjeme? |
| 12:14.47 | Kubuntiac | I copied the air folder, made modifications (including the .desktop file) and chose my theme from Workspace Appearence |
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| 12:15.31 | annma | what I am saying is that when I use the "Get New Theme" dialog and when I install your "Breathe" it is not installed correctly on my system |
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| 12:15.58 | Kubuntiac | k. I'm just trying to figure out why and how to fix it..:/ |
| 12:16.19 | Kubuntiac | It works on my pc and folder structure looks the same as other themes |
| 12:16.33 | annma | this si not a test |
| 12:16.52 | annma | remove it from your .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme |
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| 12:16.59 | annma | then try the Get New Theme dialog |
| 12:17.34 | Kubuntiac | k... |
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| 12:20.28 | Kubuntiac | annma: I tried that. GHNS says it's installed, but doesn't seem to copy it to the right location |
| 12:20.48 | Kubuntiac | The folder doesn't appear in .kde/share/apps/desktoptheme |
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| 12:23.50 | Kubuntiac | Hey, does the name of the tar.gz need to match exactly the theme name? My file is breathe-v0.5.1.tar.gz and theme folder is called just breathe... |
| 12:24.21 | annma | ah maybe |
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| 12:26.08 | Kubuntiac | k. Just changed the file to be just breathe.tar.gz... Let's see if that works |
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| 12:27.34 | Kubuntiac | annma: Nope :/ |
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| 12:31.18 | poppler | hi there |
| 12:31.31 | poppler | how do I save a session in kde? I can't find any "save session" button |
| 12:31.54 | poppler | **kde 4.5.2 |
| 12:32.04 | annma | poppler: in the session settings in System Settings |
| 12:32.27 | poppler | Session Management - System settings? |
| 12:32.44 | annma | probably |
| 12:32.59 | annma | Kubuntiac: I am looking at what it is doing but my internet is very slow |
| 12:33.04 | poppler | I was there already but there seems to be no save session,very weird |
| 12:33.22 | annma | Kubuntiac: here is what I get |
| 12:33.27 | annma | plasmapkg(8822)/libplasma Plasma::Package::installPackage: "/home/annma/.kde-4.6/share/apps/desktoptheme//default" already exists |
| 12:33.28 | annma | Installation of /tmp/annma-kde-trunk2/kde-annma///133873-breathe.tar.gz failed. |
| 12:33.41 | annma | Kubuntiac: you are trying to install under the name "default" |
| 12:33.49 | Kubuntiac | ?!? |
| 12:33.56 | annma | this is why it fails |
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| 12:34.28 | Kubuntiac | I wonder why it would do that when it's all in a folder called breathe? |
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| 12:36.31 | annma | Kubuntiac: in metadata.desktop you have X-KDE-PluginInfo-Name=default |
| 12:36.45 | annma | let me look at other themes to check if it is the cause |
| 12:37.29 | annma | yes |
| 12:37.40 | annma | you need to have "breathe" as name here |
| 12:37.58 | annma | or Breathe, whatever you want |
| 12:38.12 | Kubuntiac | annma: You are a genius! |
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| 12:38.18 | annma | Kubuntiac: ;) |
| 12:39.35 | Kubuntiac | Trying it now... |
| 12:41.45 | Kubuntiac | annma: Boo-yah! That was it! \o/ Woo hoo! |
| 12:41.49 | Kubuntiac | *thankyou!* |
| 12:42.36 | annma | I'll retry via Get New Theme when you have uploaded it |
| 12:42.40 | annma | you're welcome |
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| 12:51.12 | annma | OK I see it now |
| 12:51.26 | annma | I don't see anything different when applying it though |
| 12:52.41 | Kubuntiac | d'oh! |
| 12:52.53 | Kubuntiac | It recreated the folder on my computer *sigh* |
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| 13:04.28 | dziadu | hi guys |
| 13:05.42 | dziadu | why kcalc in kde 4.5 is so "shitty"? in previous KDEs I could, using check boxes configure kcalc as I wish, now, because of these "shitty" radio buttons, I can select only one confuration ans switch between them often |
| 13:05.52 | dziadu | is there any good reason for this? |
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| 13:07.26 | thrice` | perhaps instead of calling people's work shitty, you could open a friendly feature request to restore advanced configuration of buttons? |
| 13:08.07 | dziadu | thrice`: i don't call its work shitty, because I like kcalc |
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| 13:08.41 | dziadu | i just don't like last changes, and it doesn't change nothing in my opinion about their good work |
| 13:09.03 | annma | so issue a bug report and explain exactly why you don't like them |
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| 13:09.24 | annma | why do you need to switch between configs |
| 13:09.45 | Kubuntiac | annma: I think it was just a bad upload. I deleted the theme folder, uninstalled, re-installed and it worked fine. Before it was only creating one empty subfolder |
| 13:10.05 | annma | Kubuntiac: yes |
| 13:10.22 | annma | I don't see a difference on the Battery icon but I am not very graphical |
| 13:10.40 | annma | the panel applies OK for example when I switch to Oxygen and then to Breathe |
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| 13:11.00 | annma | it already had more than 50 downloads |
| 13:11.31 | dziadu | annma: because I have to use all options: science, numerical, statistic, and I have all buttons in one window - was much faster |
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| 13:12.05 | annma | so tellall that in the bug report |
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| 13:12.16 | annma | I don't even have kcalc myself to look |
| 13:12.25 | Kubuntiac | annma: It's pretty subtle on most of them. You see it mostly on the scissors and the wired network icons. Oh, and Amarok and Konversation go monochrome :) |
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| 13:12.50 | annma | weird I have the old klipper icon |
| 13:13.05 | Kubuntiac | scissors or clipboard? |
| 13:13.39 | annma | I get the board one |
| 13:14.01 | Kubuntiac | Weird... I get scissors. |
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| 13:15.25 | annma | yes I see your scissors with inkscape |
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| 13:15.47 | annma | but they don't apply |
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| 13:33.29 | annma | other themes icons do not apply as well |
| 13:35.15 | Kubuntiac | annma: Maybe it's just some weird caching thing mixed with using the default icons when it doesn't find something |
| 13:35.44 | Kubuntiac | annma: or dare I say it, a bug! o.O |
| 13:35.59 | annma | yes, I am investigating |
| 13:36.14 | annma | if it's a bug I'll crush it!!! in any case it's not your fault |
| 13:36.19 | Kubuntiac | KDE's lucky to have you ;) |
| 13:36.43 | Kubuntiac | Not being my fault makes for a refreshing change lol |
| 13:36.55 | annma | ;) |
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| 14:11.35 | Fri13 | Hi, offtopic but does anyone remember from here the blog post in planetkde.org about drawing a depencies with graphviz? You got png with all runtime depencies drawed nicely? |
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| 14:15.46 | annma | Kubuntiac: it was my fault, I killed kded4 earlier |
| 14:15.56 | annma | when I restart plasma-desktop I get your icons |
| 14:16.02 | annma | so it's all OK! |
| 14:16.14 | Kubuntiac | *phew!* |
| 14:16.25 | annma | :) |
| 14:16.35 | Kubuntiac | It's funny though... I do find that icons frequently don't update for a few minutes for me |
| 14:16.48 | Kubuntiac | especially network manager and message indicator |
| 14:17.20 | annma | yes it's buggy |
| 14:17.33 | annma | I lost Konversation icon by coming back to Air |
| 14:17.37 | Kubuntiac | Anyway, thanks for your help. I'm now hard at work replacing those dayglo icons in the " |
| 14:17.46 | Kubuntiac | leave" menu with something more subtle |
| 14:18.04 | annma | :) |
| 14:18.16 | Kubuntiac | I find that just clicking on another theme, then clicking back and clicking apply a couple of times helps |
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| 14:42.30 | yahh | I have a problem that suddenly my one month older mails become unread status, when i check using webmail, it was showing unread there as well |
| 14:42.39 | yahh | what could be the reason behind this? |
| 14:42.46 | yahh | I am using KMail v1.13.5 |
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| 14:54.45 | urkud | Hi! Is it possible to send an e-mail from command line using kmail? |
| 14:54.52 | urkud | I don't want kmail to show composer |
| 14:55.08 | urkud | Because I need to send quite a few e-mails |
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| 14:55.59 | yahh | why don't you use sendmail command? |
| 14:56.33 | urkud | yahh: because I don't have sendmail on my laptop, and I want these letters in my kmail folders. |
| 14:56.35 | yahh | i'm not sure about kmail command line |
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| 14:59.23 | urkud | Foung it! Just ask composer to send the e-mail right now using qdbus |
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| 15:07.11 | nobarking | why does Opera look like a GTK application if it uses Qt? |
| 15:07.48 | sreich | because it's a good example of the abuses that any programmer can make |
| 15:07.53 | cb400f | it doesn't anymore.. but even better.. since 10.60 it has "real" kde and/or gnome integration |
| 15:07.55 | sreich | it has a custom theming crappy thing going on |
| 15:08.03 | sreich | cb400f: ah, really |
| 15:08.06 | sreich | finally |
| 15:08.14 | sreich | now all we need is FF, chrome :) |
| 15:08.22 | cb400f | yup.. nice kde filedialog.. pretty decent mimetype association etc. |
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| 15:08.52 | leo_rockway | I wonder if you guys can help me with something that somebody brought to my attention: I drag and drop an application from the traditional K menu (ie, not lancelot) into a panel. I right click on the icon of the application I just added to the panel and click on icon settings, expecting to be able to change the icon... but I can't. |
| 15:09.10 | cb400f | in 10.7x it should even render fonts the same way as kde (if running in kde) |
| 15:09.43 | leo_rockway | I'm using 4.5.2, but this was reported to me by someone using 4.4.5. The funny thing is that he has two comps with 4.4.5 and in one he can change the icon and on the other one he can't. |
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| 15:10.18 | nobarking | cb400f: i'm on 10.63 it feels like it's using QtCurve, but the file dialog is there |
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| 15:16.15 | cb400f | nobarking: there are some skins with oxygen icons and feel.. far from perfect, but... |
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| 15:26.09 | sushiyant | Why when i open a app in one of multi desktops i see it in all of multi desktops ? |
| 15:26.28 | sreich | you have to go into the settings of the task manager |
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| 15:27.05 | sreich | right click where the window icons show up, "task manager settings" |
| 15:27.12 | sreich | or just open the panel settings (unlock widgets) |
| 15:30.22 | sushiyant | sreich: but i can not found task manager |
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| 15:32.46 | cb400f | sushiyant: if you have < kde sc 4.5 you need empty space in the taskmanager to easily access the settings |
| 15:32.51 | cb400f | taskbar |
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| 15:33.27 | leo_rockway | sushiyant: you see the window on all desktops or the entry in the taskbar in all desktops? |
| 15:33.59 | sushiyant | leo_rockway: entry in the taskbar in all desktops |
| 15:34.12 | leo_rockway | okay, then do what sreich said... |
| 15:34.46 | sushiyant | leo_rockway: but i have kde 4.4.2 |
| 15:35.20 | cb400f | so you either need empty space in the taskbar or you need to open the panel configuration (click on cashew in panel) |
| 15:36.54 | Toxygene | KCacheGrind question: Anyone know why I wouldn't be seeing more than one level of call graph or map data? (http://yfrog.com/6ewhyflatp) |
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| 15:38.02 | sushiyant | cb400f: leo_rockway : sreich : tnx |
| 15:38.58 | cb400f | wonders who to bribe to have that default changed anyway.. never heard about anyone who wants taskbar entries on every desktop |
| 15:40.10 | sreich | post a patch for it on reviewboard for plasma |
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| 15:40.24 | sreich | I agree, the default doesn't seem to be well thought out |
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| 15:41.06 | cb400f | I think it's definitely the most FAQ how to change that setting ;-) |
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| 15:41.13 | cb400f | at least since 4.5 it's much easier |
| 15:41.32 | peremen | debian/kde 4.5.2 from qt-kde.debian.net question |
| 15:41.34 | peremen | why network entry in knetworkmanager is not displayed in tray icon's menu, but connection is working? |
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| 16:28.30 | Zombie | Anyone living? |
| 16:28.46 | bonsaikitten | no ;) |
| 16:28.48 | Kubuntiac | Hurrrrrrrrrrr..... braaaainnns.... |
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| 16:59.12 | gnac | so I'm having a stupid problem with ksnapshot. It used to be able to spawn other image applications like gimp and gwenview, but now it seems that it is not storing the tmp file in the place it is telling the spawned app. The spawned app says it cannot find the file. |
| 16:59.45 | gnac | I've searched my home directory, /var and /tmp for the ksnapshot temp file. no luck. |
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| 17:09.02 | Kame2 | gnac: after you start ksnapshot and it has taken its first snapshot atomaticaly, you have to make a second snapshot. than it works. this is a known bug |
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| 17:13.06 | gnac | Kame2: ahh, thanks. I tested that and the second shot works. |
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| 17:26.12 | eddyb | hi there |
| 17:26.27 | eddyb | my system's sound is a bit of a mess |
| 17:26.32 | eddyb | came here with a question |
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| 17:27.12 | eddyb | is there an easy way to cleanup Phonon(or whatever manages sound in kde4)'s setting/preferences? |
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| 17:28.32 | xaphir | I think you can delete the phonon rc file and it will recreate it |
| 17:28.40 | xaphir | back it up just in case tho. |
| 17:28.53 | eddyb | user or system -wide? |
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| 17:29.31 | xaphir | I've heard it being done on per user basis, but not much beyond that |
| 17:29.39 | xaphir | someone else here knows more I'm sure |
| 17:29.46 | eddyb | (I am talking about all those sound devices that exist or don't, in the System settings->Multimedia->Phonon) |
| 17:29.53 | eddyb | which I can't delete from there, btw |
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| 17:30.17 | toketin | halo |
| 17:30.41 | toketin | in the task manager how can i see only task's icons? |
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| 17:31.04 | xaphir | eddyb: yeah, that should be fixable by moving the phonon rc and letting it redetect |
| 17:31.13 | xaphir | btw I don't see a phonon rc in /etc |
| 17:31.19 | eddyb | /etc/kde4 has nothing related... |
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| 17:31.44 | interploy | Hey guys, question about Kate... Is there a way to change the default open file directory? |
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| 17:36.06 | eddyb | phonondevicesrc? |
| 17:36.12 | roconnor | I'm using KDE 4.4.5 under NixOS and my menu bar is half black / half grey <http://imagebin.ca/view/4Ud9Fb6E.html> Any idea what would cause this and how to fix it? |
| 17:36.44 | roconnor | http://imagebin.ca/img/4Ud9Fb6E.png <-- direct link |
| 17:37.34 | eddyb | moved it, now pressing my "Fix ALSA" button, which restarts ALSA |
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| 17:38.28 | eddyb | removing and then adding configuration for sound in YaST works better :P |
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| 17:54.45 | xaphir | eddyb: where'd you see the "fix alsa" button? |
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| 17:57.07 | xaphir | ping eddyb |
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| 18:03.28 | eddyb | xaphir: pong |
| 18:03.39 | eddyb | sorry, made the button myself :P |
| 18:03.42 | xaphir | where was your phonondevicesrc located |
| 18:03.56 | eddyb | ~/.kde4/share |
| 18:04.00 | xaphir | aha |
| 18:04.01 | eddyb | err |
| 18:04.06 | eddyb | ~/.kde4/share/config |
| 18:04.16 | xaphir | did it recreate it ok? |
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| 18:05.20 | eddyb | hmm |
| 18:05.35 | xaphir | what did you do exactly |
| 18:05.46 | eddyb | right now? |
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| 18:05.55 | xaphir | to fix the rc file |
| 18:06.10 | eddyb | deleting and then saving a brand new sound configuration in YaST |
| 18:06.21 | xaphir | Ahh yast. ok |
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| 18:07.26 | eddyb | hmm, it creates a dumb file :( |
| 18:07.37 | eddyb | just the Digital Intel HDA device |
| 18:07.42 | eddyb | which is not what I want |
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| 18:08.26 | eddyb | the thing is... |
| 18:08.34 | eddyb | systemsettings show all of them |
| 18:08.50 | eddyb | phonondevicesrc is not yet changed |
| 18:09.25 | eddyb | saving that configuration does nothing to phonondevicesrc :( |
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| 18:09.45 | eddyb | bbs |
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| 18:54.15 | _spm_Draget | Inside the default kde file-selection dialog I can use the keyboard to find a folder by pressing the first letters. If I press enter, I would expect the dialog to open the folder, but instead it saves the file in there right away. I was just wondering if I am the only one who would favor a different behaviour (opening the folder only) |
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| 18:55.41 | _spm_Draget | A second thing: If I delete a file in this dialog, the currently selected file (that is delete) is not simply unselected but the next file is selected and also the default name to save gets switched to the newly selected file. I would also find it more convinient if the selection would go away if the selected item is deleted. |
| 18:55.49 | _spm_Draget | From usability points of view... |
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| 18:57.14 | icwiener_ | _spm_Draget: The chances that these points are heard by the right people are better, if you file a report at bugs.kde.org |
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| 18:58.10 | _spm_Draget | icwiener_: True⦠|
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| 19:12.58 | troy | random question of the day: ripping dvd (video) using kde - any commonly used techinique? |
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| 19:13.36 | troy | wants to convert his dvd collection into something useful for his media centre |
| 19:13.50 | troy | is k3b the way? |
| 19:14.01 | eddyb | I use vlc for such things |
| 19:14.24 | troy | thanks eddyb - will poke at it :) |
| 19:14.43 | eddyb | it's known to work good and that just installed/basic settings :P |
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| 19:21.49 | alienBOB | troy: handbrake |
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| 19:23.17 | troy | alienBOB: you have packages, I presume :) |
| 19:23.32 | alienBOB | Sure |
| 19:23.38 | alienBOB | Mind the dependencies |
| 19:24.21 | alienBOB | troy - http://taper.alienbase.nl/mirrors/people/alien/restricted_slackbuilds/handbrake/ |
| 19:24.48 | thrice` | alienBOB, you should use snapshots for that one; they recently removed the webkit dependency on linux, and also the hal dependency |
| 19:25.01 | thrice` | which is kinda nice :) |
| 19:25.18 | alienBOB | Perhaps |
| 19:26.16 | thrice` | the handbrake guys actually recommend later SVN over 0.9.4, since so many bugs have been fixed, and some newer DVDs don't work nicely with it |
| 19:26.20 | troy | alienBOB: do you vlc packages have codecs removed due to patents as well? I never did check that |
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| 19:26.40 | alienBOB | I have both versions of VLC packages troy |
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| 19:27.15 | alienBOB | thrice`: I'll make some time to build a newer handbrake then... the VLC guys keep lagging on a new release |
| 19:27.28 | troy | ah, I see :) |
| 19:28.10 | thrice` | alienBOB, :) it's nice, they even added a little bit of logic for the DVD-scan, so it's much more intelligent about picking out the right title |
| 19:28.25 | alienBOB | Only pity is that it uses a GTK interface |
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| 19:28.42 | troy | thanks alienBOB, as usual :) |
| 19:28.51 | thrice` | yes; there was a Qt interface developed for awhile, but that sadly didn't go anywhere :( |
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| 19:29.01 | thrice` | the CLI is pretty intuitive and simple, though |
| 19:29.12 | alienBOB | No problem, you are one of my more visible supporters troy ;-) |
| 19:29.17 | alienBOB | thrice`: agreed |
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| 19:30.07 | thrice` | I usually use VLC to find the title properly, and then just call the CLI |
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| 19:50.44 | lacey_ | the battery indicator works as root but not as a user how can I fix this? |
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| 19:57.37 | Henson_D | could someone help me verify a bug in dolphin? I haven't figured out exactly how to reproduce it, but it happens very often. In column view when I try to create a new folder using the right mouse button menu or the menu bar at the top, very frequently it will have the "Create New" item greyed out for a writeable directory. However when switching to Details view it works just fine. When... |
| 19:57.44 | Henson_D | you switch back to column view it'll work properly. |
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| 20:00.03 | amdrozd | I have the same problem :) and i don't know how to reproduce it too :] |
| 20:00.46 | Henson_D | amdrozd: what distro are you running? |
| 20:01.22 | Henson_D | amdrozd: or are you compiling KDE from SVN source? |
| 20:02.22 | amdrozd | Henson_D: i'm on Arch Linux 64b and no i have kde from repo :) |
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| 20:03.22 | Henson_D | amdrozd: ok, I'm on Kubuntu, so it seems like it might not be a distro-specific problem |
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| 20:05.25 | amdrozd | Henson_D: You can use f10 :) but if you like a mouse... |
| 20:07.15 | lacey_ | anyone know what could be causing the battery indicator to work under root but not a user? |
| 20:07.19 | amdrozd | Henson_D: f10 works even if option in menu is grayed :) |
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| 20:08.13 | Henson_D | amdrozd: yeah. For some reason dolphin's column view is way buggier than the others. I've submitted several bugs about its usability. I wonder if many people use it? Ever since I used OS X way back when it first came out, I've found the column view style of browsing to be very nice. |
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| 20:08.30 | Henson_D | amdrozd: the others being the other view modes like details or icons |
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| 20:16.47 | amdrozd | Henson_D: I like this view too :) but i don't care soo much about this bug because I prefer keyboard :) |
| 20:17.07 | Henson_D | amdrozd: ahh, I see. Well thanks for the f10 tip, I'll use that until this bug gets squashed :-) |
| 20:18.12 | troy | alienBOB: kde could really use a nice ripping interface like we have for audiocd's :/ |
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| 20:18.58 | amdrozd | Henson_D: No problem :) try others f[1-12] keys :) |
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| 20:19.31 | troy | lacey_: usually a permissions problem :) |
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| 20:21.07 | troy | lacey_: it's probably trying to read the current state from hal, and hal is disinclined to acquiesce :) |
| 20:30.49 | Julian | n8 |
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| 20:50.40 | troy | alienBOB: you're right - handbrake is pretty nice; pity it can't dump the subtitles |
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| 21:12.05 | monkey_d_luffy | when I choose to reboot in KDE, does it call /etc/init.d/reboot or does it call /sbin/reboot ? I would like to use kexec on reboot, that's why I'm asking. |
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| 21:14.43 | pinotree | monkey_d_luffy: if you are using kdm, see "login manager" in system settings |
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| 21:14.56 | Tasser | how do I tell KDE to shut down the computer on lid close? |
| 21:16.36 | troy | Tasser: in system-settings, look for Power Management |
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| 21:17.08 | troy | Tasser: then choose Profiles on the left, and for a particular profile, select Actions, and choose what to do when the lid closes |
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| 21:18.40 | monkey_d_luffy | pinotree: nice :) thanks *thumbs up* |
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| 21:18.47 | troy | Tasser: let me know if that helps - I have it set to "Suspend to RAM" for lid closure as that works 100% on my laptop, and I open and close it often enough |
| 21:19.18 | troy | notes that that settings screen gets totally redone for 4.6, iirc |
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| 21:19.38 | Tasser | troy, well, yeah suspend to ram doesn't seem to work on that archlinux here fully.... |
| 21:19.46 | monkey_d_luffy | Tasser: make sure you have the software for it, check if you have the program s2ram in your machine (well, at least that is how debian works) |
| 21:20.22 | Tasser | monkey_d_luffy, I'm usually going like echo mem > /sys/power/state ;-) |
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| 21:21.29 | troy | wonders why that works out of the box on slackware :P |
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| 21:21.47 | troy | the world must be going craaazy! :P |
| 21:23.08 | Tasser | troy, works on my arch here ;-) |
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| 21:28.10 | AlexP | suspend to ram works perfectly on Arch here |
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| 21:59.46 | Tasser | can I set own commands for suspend? |
| 21:59.55 | Tasser | looks like I need to pass some parameters to s2ram |
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| 23:13.44 | chemtail | Using 4.5.1 on Kubuntu 10.10. When pressing, say, the applauncher hotkey, the menu pops up, but it does not retract and disappear when i press again, as in previous versions. |
| 23:13.50 | chemtail | Feature or bug? |
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| 23:19.47 | lust4life | J |
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| 23:33.57 | dfrey | I'm trying to get started with KDE programming. Where is a good place to ask questions? |
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| 23:35.38 | neoclust | dfrey: you can look on the junior job bugs on kde bugzilla |
| 23:37.27 | dfrey | neoclust: more specifically, I'm having problems getting the tools set up to build KDE applications, so I'm looking for somewhere to ask about that. |
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| 23:38.17 | neoclust | dfrey: i _think_ that #kde-devel can help |
| 23:38.43 | dfrey | neoclust: thanks |
| 23:38.49 | neoclust | dfrey: you can look on the tech pages too http://techbase.kde.org/ |
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