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00:03.24 | Kenjiro | hello there |
00:04.01 | Kenjiro | would anybody here know why my kde apps can't copy/paste among themselves? Example, I can't copy text from konqueror and paste in kate (or vice versa) |
00:04.11 | Kenjiro | but I can copy text from firefox and paste on kate/konqueror |
00:04.29 | Kenjiro | in fact... it looks like I can't copy text FROM kde apps. Only paste TO them |
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00:12.17 | Kenjiro | running kde-4.3.1 |
00:12.29 | Kenjiro | and this is strange, because till yesterday everything was fine |
00:13.16 | yoos | that sometimes happens to me |
00:13.35 | yoos | not sure, but sometimes, it works when I press ctrl+c twice |
00:13.55 | yoos | though I'm not sure if it's the same thing :| |
00:14.11 | N9NU-1 | is back. |
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00:14.58 | Kenjiro | yoos: it doesn't work even if I right-click and choose "copy" |
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00:18.36 | Kenjiro | regarding kde apps, I can only copy from an app and paste in itself (like copy from kate and paste in kate) |
00:18.42 | Kenjiro | damn weird |
00:19.04 | Kenjiro | I had that problem when I tried using qt-4.5.2. |
00:19.22 | Kenjiro | but then I changed to kde-qt (4.5.2) and that stoped |
00:19.40 | Kenjiro | I am still running that same kde-qt, but now out of the blue it stopped copying :( |
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00:21.30 | oneforall | well I tried to open the setting from konsole. To see if there was an error, when I try to change the individual setting. But it still gives that same message |
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00:43.40 | comawhite | why can't I check Different activity for each desktop? |
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00:46.14 | esaym153 | how to add "open terminal here" to context menu? |
00:46.57 | esaym153 | or even better, have the F4 button open a terminal in the current directory. Currently some mini half screen one opens.... |
00:48.22 | MTGap | There is a thing in dolphin to open a terminal in the current directory |
00:49.05 | MTGap | You can even have a terminal within dolphin |
00:49.28 | MTGap | View>Panels>Terminal |
00:49.46 | esaym153 | MTGap: yea if you press F4, but it gives you a small mini one attached to dolphin |
00:50.46 | MTGap | yeah but how big of a terminal do you need, another cool thing is yakuake which is a drop down terminal from your deskto |
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00:52.45 | esaym153 | MTGap: I just want the a normal konsole session, which is what pressing f4 in kde3 would do. Pressing shift+f4 gives you a regular konsole session but it is not in the same directory as dolphin |
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00:53.35 | MTGap | esaym153: yeah I have no clue, I'm interesting in figuring out how to add context menus to |
00:53.54 | MTGap | I want something that can resize images, they have something for converting them but not resizing them |
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00:58.13 | esaym153 | MTGap: like a scipt or something? |
00:58.40 | peacenik | does anyone know how to edit the context menus for Dolphin? |
00:58.51 | MTGap | esaym153: yeah but with what your talking about where I can right click an image and click on resize... |
00:59.00 | MTGap | which is what peacenik is talking about right now |
00:59.14 | esaym153 | oh |
00:59.26 | esaym153 | it could be done in konqueror |
00:59.36 | MTGap | ? how so |
01:00.02 | peacenik | yes usually it is some kind of script (usually ending in rc . . .), but I can't find it for dolphin. |
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01:01.02 | peacenik | have also looked on net and forums, but haven't found anything |
01:01.08 | Kenjiro | so... I guess no one knows how to fix that problem I am having, right? |
01:01.50 | MTGap | hmm I'll have to look into this, yeah I'm a newbie kde user seeing as I've only started using linux and kde since 4.2.2 so I never was part of the kde 3 users that used konqueror as a file browser. I'm using what I started with |
01:01.57 | esaym153 | MTGap: something like this: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=10802 |
01:01.59 | peacenik | Kenjiro: you asked about copy - paste between apps right? |
01:02.34 | MTGap | oh cool... |
01:02.43 | esaym153 | the "%u" means current file or directory or something. I am not sure if it is still the same in kde4 |
01:02.45 | MTGap | does dolphin have servicemenus let me look? |
01:03.11 | Kenjiro | peacenik: yep |
01:03.13 | esaym153 | MTGap: I would think that it is similar to konqueror |
01:03.17 | Kenjiro | between kde apps |
01:03.26 | MTGap | no it doesn't but it has to be able to do it |
01:03.28 | Kenjiro | (kde-4.3.1) |
01:03.47 | peacenik | Kenjiro: I can't replicate - I have no prob copying from konqueror and dolphin |
01:03.49 | Kenjiro | (kde-qt (qt-4.5.2)) |
01:03.50 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: in case you want to ged rid of "rar", configure dolphin -> services |
01:03.51 | oneforall | any ideas? |
01:04.04 | MTGap | hmm I don't have it under konqueror either, so maybe dolphin does have it.. |
01:04.21 | MTGap | cause gnome has nautilus scripts.. |
01:04.32 | Kenjiro | peacenik: I didn't have that problem too till yesterday. In fact... I think that by the begining of the today's afternoon I didn't that problem |
01:04.35 | Kenjiro | it began tonight |
01:04.42 | Kenjiro | and no, I didn't change any software |
01:04.45 | Kenjiro | WEIRD |
01:05.11 | MTGap | esaym153: I found something! http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088743.0 haven't looked through all of it yet |
01:05.33 | peacenik | neverendingo_: configure where? |
01:05.44 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: in dolphin |
01:05.54 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: settings |
01:06.16 | esaym153 | http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3088743.0 |
01:06.25 | peacenik | Kenjiro: try closing apps - sometimes that can helpp you locate |
01:06.28 | esaym153 | MTGap: rofl, I just found it too |
01:06.57 | MTGap | esaym153: yeah, I had never heard of them called service menus.. I hate when I'm looking for something and can't find it for a long time just because it has a stupid name lol |
01:07.03 | peacenik | neverendingo_: yes I don't know where services are in that menu |
01:07.21 | MTGap | I bet you could write a script to open at current directory |
01:07.22 | Kenjiro | peacenik: I even tried closing KDE and X |
01:07.37 | Kenjiro | the only thing I haven't tried yet is rebooting the whole computer |
01:07.45 | Kenjiro | (because I am accessing it remotely) |
01:08.08 | MTGap | esaym153: yeah there are a lot of servicemenu results for dolphin |
01:08.50 | MTGap | esaym153: I think I found what your looking for: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Root+Actions+Servicemenu?content=48411 |
01:09.35 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: let's try a different route. locate ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop |
01:09.50 | peacenik | neverendingo_: settings -> show menubar | show toolbar | config shortcuts | conf. toolbars | config dolphin |
01:10.02 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: config dolphin |
01:10.15 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: but whatever, just edit the above file |
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01:12.16 | _Vi | KDE 3.5. When some menu or pop-up is opened (like under firefox's address bar), I cannot use keyboard shortcuts. |
01:12.24 | _Vi | How to fix it? |
01:14.00 | peacenik | neverendingo_: thanks that seems to be what I was looking for - I'll check that out for a while |
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01:15.38 | docgnome | is there a way to swap capslock and contol quickly inside kde, or do i have to go fiddle with my x config |
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01:16.09 | docgnome | kde 4.3 is what i'm using |
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01:19.12 | esaym153 | how do I make these balls and clocks smaller: http://christi.ath.cx/stuff/kopete.png |
01:19.32 | esaym153 | they used to be tiny, now today on the update from 4.2 to 4.3.1 they are big like that .... |
01:20.05 | Kenjiro | esaym153: I had that same problem on my netbook. Weird I didn't on my desktop |
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01:20.27 | esaym153 | ugh |
01:20.35 | Kenjiro | what I did on my netbook... was change the STYLE |
01:21.58 | esaym153 | doesn't seem to help |
01:23.20 | carpii | if i setup kmail to use IMAP with gmail, how will labels be handled? Will they be treated as folders, or not at all? |
01:23.26 | Kenjiro | I changed the style and I got smaller icons |
01:23.33 | esaym153 | hmm |
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01:25.06 | peacenik | neverendingo_: the "ark_addtoservicemenu.desktop" is in "/usr/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/" - so i assume that this is system wide. Can they be done on a per user basis? If so where would they be put? |
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01:25.48 | carpii | id assume ~/.kde4/share/ etc |
01:26.42 | neverendingo_ | or .kde, whatever your distro uses |
01:27.23 | Kenjiro | oh well... let's see if my kde will magicaly solve the problem, as magicaly as it showed up. |
01:27.31 | _Vi | How to file a bug against KDE 3.5 (which is default in Debian)? |
01:27.57 | _Vi | It says "You are not using a recent KDE version". |
01:29.00 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: so just copy it to .kde(4)/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ |
01:29.53 | peacenik | ok I just found it after I asked - thanks |
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01:39.16 | docgnome | anyone use scim and kde4? |
01:39.43 | docgnome | can't seem to activate scim in kde4 apps |
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02:04.32 | peacenik | neverendingo_: worked perfectly, thanks |
02:04.53 | neverendingo_ | peacenik: yw |
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02:41.29 | docgnome | anyone using kde4 and scim? i can't seem to get it to active in any gtk or kde apps. I only seem to be able to activate it in urxvt |
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03:25.23 | surrealgirl | hey are there any kde developer here? |
03:25.40 | surrealgirl | either way send them my regards for kde4, it rocks |
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04:07.30 | Guest39748 | hi |
04:07.40 | Guest39748 | how can I get akregator to use a proxy? |
04:08.40 | Guest39748 | btw 4.3.1 runs great |
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04:09.07 | Guest39748 | when kosmic kola gets final its going to be great. |
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04:32.43 | navetz | how do you reinstall the icon set for kde4? |
04:32.47 | navetz | my icons are messed up |
04:33.22 | navetz | my prev ,next , parent folder , home folder, etc icons are all the exact same |
04:33.36 | navetz | this is the icons in konqueror, kate, dolphin etc |
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04:42.35 | Wooga | which packages i need to configure fonts in kde4 applications? |
04:42.55 | Wooga | i just installed konqueror with all it's dependences but can't see any gui font config |
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05:19.37 | fyanardi_ | Woonga: font settings are inside SystemSettings |
05:20.00 | fyanardi_ | Wooga: ^^ sorry, wrong nick :D |
05:20.20 | Wooga | where do i get this? |
05:20.31 | Wooga | i just don't want to install wholde kde to configure it |
05:21.15 | Jucato | try this command "kcmshell4 fonts". if that works, you're in luck. if it doesn't, you may have to install a bit more packages |
05:21.24 | Jucato | but you definitely don't have to install all of KDE |
05:21.43 | Wooga | Jucato: oh, it works! |
05:21.44 | Wooga | thanks! |
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06:03.41 | andip | i just got a message from "the kde desktop manager" about features that could not be activated. is there somewhere i can look to find out _why_ they could not be activated? |
06:03.43 | comawhite | why can't I check Different activity for each desktop? |
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06:05.27 | andip | when i right-click the pager (multiple desktops), and choose "configure desktops". what's supposed to be started? some executable? |
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06:11.43 | comawhite | andip: it's a bug. can you report it? |
06:13.16 | andip | what's a bug? |
06:14.26 | andip | i mean, the multiple desktops, or the feature-thing? both? |
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07:05.16 | navetz | after upgrading to kde4 kubuntu 9.04 vmware fusion no longer works (it is not supported) does any on know of any fixes/workaround to this? |
07:05.48 | Jucato | you'll have to ask in your distro |
07:06.48 | Jucato | vmware fusion is the "seamless" feature in vmware right? |
07:07.02 | Jucato | (actually I think the responsibility for that would be with vmware. vbox's feature also doesn't completely work. the desktop part specifically) |
07:08.20 | navetz | Jucato: humm this is why I don't like upgrading :( I need to use photoshop right now and my vm is down |
07:08.55 | navetz | Jucato: do you know if there is a way to run an older kernel? |
07:09.17 | Jucato | well, if it's a kernel issue, you can jsut boot into an older kernel (again, a distro question) |
07:09.23 | Jucato | just* |
07:09.35 | Jucato | best to ask in #kubuntu |
07:10.09 | navetz | alright thanks |
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07:39.00 | rindolf | Hi all! Where is the (joke) interview with Konqi the dragon? It seems to have disappeared from http://www.behindkde.org/people/ |
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07:40.29 | rindolf | http://www.behindkde.org/people/konqi/ - hmmm........ |
07:40.52 | backflip | Hi! Does anyone know if you can connect via mobile broadband devices and knetworkmanager yet? |
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07:52.48 | cb400f | backflip: should be possible.. may require some settings tweaking and possibly even manual dns setup :-( |
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07:53.52 | cb400f | backflip: http://userbase.kde.org/NetworkManagement |
07:54.02 | backflip | Right now I'm using kinternet from kde3 to do that |
07:54.17 | backflip | My knetworkmanager has a tab like that, but it's grayed out |
07:55.00 | cb400f | kde3 or 4 knm? |
07:55.11 | backflip | from kde4 |
07:55.14 | cb400f | ... using nm-applet is also an option |
07:55.47 | backflip | I have five tabs: Wired, Wireless, Mobile broadband, VPN and DSL |
07:55.57 | backflip | mobile broadband and dsl are disabled |
07:56.28 | backflip | I thought I missed some packages, but I can't find any I haven't installed yet |
07:56.29 | cb400f | weird.. and your device is attached and detected? |
07:56.43 | backflip | I would think so |
07:58.27 | backflip | it's not too much of an issue |
07:58.56 | backflip | would've been nice to have everything in one program, though ;) |
07:59.26 | cb400f | I guess you use opensuse? |
07:59.26 | backflip | thanks :) |
07:59.32 | backflip | i do |
07:59.38 | cb400f | .. think kinternet might be dropped for 11.2 :-) |
07:59.52 | backflip | blargh |
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08:00.33 | backflip | well, i'll have to hammer in the 11.1 rpm then |
08:00.41 | cb400f | you can always use nm-applet.. then you'll have all in one app.. a mighty ugly gnome app.. but at least it'll work |
08:02.11 | szal | backflip: http://bash.org/?212775 |
08:02.26 | szal | your 'hammer in' reminded me of that :D |
08:02.39 | backflip | i have a rather peculiar configuration of mobile broadband hardware, a palm centro with additional usb modem driver |
08:02.40 | backflip | :D |
08:03.09 | backflip | but is that tab in knm4 supposed to work yet anyway? |
08:03.52 | cb400f | partially.. it isn't supposed to be greyed out |
08:04.08 | cb400f | don't have mobile bb myself.. but I've tried to help a friend get his working with knm4 |
08:04.31 | backflip | well, like i said, mine's a bit special |
08:04.52 | cb400f | almost got it working.. just wouldn't get dns... but it's in very active development.. every week there are new fixes (and new bugs :-( ) |
08:05.15 | cb400f | .. it's not released mind you... just svn snapshots for testing available |
08:05.46 | backflip | another question... there once was this networkmanager plasma applet that i liked very much |
08:05.53 | backflip | well, when it was working anyway |
08:06.25 | cb400f | it still exists.. but the "normal" systray thingy is higher priority |
08:06.30 | backflip | i see |
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08:06.54 | backflip | because right now everything the applet does is display a crude image of a cell phone |
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08:08.26 | cb400f | the plasmoid is completely b0rked after they did some architectural changes.. but I think it's (slowly) being developed still |
08:09.03 | backflip | thank you very much! |
08:09.10 | backflip | and have a nice day |
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08:29.44 | andip | how can i enable transparent windows? afaik composite is enabled (xorg-log and xdpyinfo says so), but i still see an error-msg telling me my desktop doesn't support it |
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08:40.07 | szal | andip: glxinfo | grep -i direct |
08:42.50 | andip | szal: "direct rendering yes" |
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08:54.27 | alpha_one_x86 | Hello, I don't no found how use activity by vitual desktop |
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08:55.53 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: what? |
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08:56.13 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: do you mean you cannot find how to use a different activity per virtual desktop? |
08:56.23 | alpha_one_x86 | I want configure different widget for each my virtual desktop |
08:56.41 | alpha_one_x86 | yes, it's that's I thinks |
08:56.45 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: ah. |
08:56.58 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: you need to press the top-right cashew and then zoom out. |
08:57.13 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: and then you have an option for that in the context menu. |
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08:58.51 | alpha_one_x86 | Found, that it's can't be more visible (directly "configure plasma" in the right top menu)? |
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09:00.21 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: I don't understand. |
09:00.28 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: what is your native language? |
09:01.01 | alpha_one_x86 | I use KDE since lot of time, and is it's not easy for my to found this options, what about the beginer... |
09:01.06 | alpha_one_x86 | french |
09:01.12 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: ah. |
09:01.14 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: OK. |
09:01.27 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: I don't speak French well. |
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09:02.41 | alpha_one_x86 | I have heavy lag when I'm in zoom out, ~3fps, and I use nvidia proprietary drivers, normal? |
09:02.50 | rindolf | Hi kanguru |
09:02.55 | kanguru | hey rindolf |
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09:03.00 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: meet kanguru - he speaks French well. |
09:03.04 | cb400f | alpha_one_x86: it's a new feature in kde 4.3 ... how many beginners use that? |
09:03.12 | kanguru | salut alpha_one_x86 |
09:03.19 | cb400f | .. and in 4.3.1 the option is more "accesible".. right via the desktop cashew |
09:03.24 | cb400f | without zooming out |
09:03.26 | kanguru | tu as un probleme ? |
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09:04.36 | alpha_one_x86 | I'm in 4.3.1, but after lot of search alone I had not found this option |
09:05.28 | alpha_one_x86 | kanguru: je disait qu'en fait j'ai eu du mal à trouvé l'options pour les activity par desktop |
09:05.48 | alpha_one_x86 | Et que quand je zoom out je lag comme c'est pas possible, c'est affreux |
09:06.29 | rindolf | alpha_one_x86: maybe you need to "Lock widgets" |
09:07.01 | alpha_one_x86 | Tested with and without, same result |
09:07.15 | kanguru | alpha: qu'est ce que tu entends dire par activite desktop |
09:08.29 | kanguru | alpha: tu peux m'expliquer ton probleme en prive ? |
09:08.44 | soa2ii | Hi. What is Akonadi really intended for? A desktop independend thing (so you can install it without using KDE at all) or will it require kdelibs? |
09:08.46 | alpha_one_x86 | Quand par virtual desktop on as des widget différent, via l'option: Configure plasma -> different activity par each desktop |
09:08.50 | alpha_one_x86 | ok |
09:09.29 | soa2ii | Because in the docs the architecture looks like it will just work with KDE/Gnome |
09:09.31 | soa2ii | http://pim.kde.org/akonadi/ |
09:09.52 | soa2ii | Why is there a special API and not just a Calendar API? |
09:10.07 | Jucato | soa2ii: it doesn't require kdelibs, but it does require Qt. it's desktop-independent. |
09:10.16 | Jucato | because it's not just for calendars |
09:10.26 | soa2ii | Jucato: OK. |
09:10.37 | soa2ii | Jucato: Of course it can do more... |
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09:10.56 | soa2ii | But why is there a KDE API and not a calendar api, contact api, note api ... and so on |
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09:12.50 | Jucato | to make it easier for KDE apps to use. consistency with KDE API. integration with the rest of KDE, etc.? |
09:13.32 | Jucato | thinks there's an #akonadi channel |
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09:18.38 | andip | is there no longer a way to have different backgrounds on different virtual desktops? |
09:19.27 | cb400f | depends on your version... |
09:19.28 | rindolf | andip: on KDE 4.3.x , you can assign different activities |
09:19.40 | rindolf | andip: for different virtual desktosp. |
09:19.45 | rindolf | andip: and there's also a bug to fix it. |
09:19.52 | rindolf | I'd like to work on it maybe. |
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09:20.48 | andip | 4.3.1 is my version. and tbh i have NO clue what the zoom out and different activities is good for. |
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09:21.49 | cb400f | click on the cashew -> plasma settings -> different act. for each desktop |
09:22.13 | cb400f | then you can also have different widgets on each desktop |
09:22.36 | cb400f | and you can enable separate dashboard too |
09:22.49 | cb400f | .. and then finally put some widgets on your screensaver :-) |
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09:23.46 | andip | when i click the cashew (i'm guessing you mean the thing in the upper right corner of my screen) i see no option called plasma settings |
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09:24.05 | cb400f | you're sure you have 4.3.1? |
09:24.12 | andip | yes |
09:24.19 | cb400f | in 4.3.0 you need to zoom out to get the option |
09:24.20 | andip | well, according to portage i do |
09:24.24 | cb400f | hrm |
09:25.38 | cb400f | did you restart after updating? :-) |
09:26.09 | andip | yes, logged out, and restarted kdm |
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09:27.59 | andip | i zoomed out now, configured plasma with diff act for each desktop, but it seems that's "zoom-out dekstop", not virtual desktop |
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09:31.05 | ffjia | hi there |
09:31.32 | ffjia | how can I disable sub categories in menu? like "Internet -> Communication -> Kopete", I'd like it be "Internet -> Kopete" |
09:33.15 | ffjia | I can use KDE Menu Editor, but it could be a long and boring work |
09:33.47 | lemma | ffjia: afaik vanilla kde doesn't have subcategories.. at least mine doesn't. which distribution are you using? |
09:34.02 | ffjia | arch linux |
09:34.10 | ffjia | kde 4.4 subversion |
09:34.25 | lemma | ffjia: well, maybe 4.4 does. I'm on 4.3 stable here |
09:34.59 | lemma | ffjia: sorry, no idea how to mass-move the entries |
09:35.36 | ffjia | lemma: thanks any way ;) |
09:37.02 | ffjia | lemma: which distro are you using? |
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09:38.52 | lemma | ffjia: debian |
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09:41.14 | ffjia | lemma: I remember that 3.3 have "subcategories" in arch ... |
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09:42.51 | slackytude | hello |
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09:43.10 | slackytude | Im trying to get my own actions for dolphin defined but it seems Im missing google foo |
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09:43.25 | lemma | ffjia: I don't really know as I usually don't use the menu to launch stuff. I actually had to open the menu to check if I had subcategories :) |
09:43.40 | slackytude | so, any clues how I could define my own actions for right click on any file in dolphin? |
09:44.31 | lemma | slackytude: maybe this could help (haven't read it): http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Creating_Konqueror_Service_Menus |
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09:47.21 | ffjia | lemma: hehe, I just have delete a subcategory, and the submenus |
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09:52.56 | slackytude | lemma, thx, still now working tho. guess Im doing something wrong |
09:53.36 | lemma | slackytude: I never tried it either. I just figured it might be the one tutorial people on kde-apps are using to make their service menus |
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09:54.37 | Jucato | it's the standard tutorial (for KDE 4). if you dont' mind posting your service menu, it's name, and where you're putting it, maybe someone who knows servicemenus well might be of assistance |
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09:57.25 | slackytude | /home/icke/.kde/share/kde4/services/ this is what kde4-config gives me as my path for services |
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09:57.53 | Jucato | no |
09:57.59 | slackytude | I added a ServiceMenus dir and copied an existing servicemenu over from /usr/share |
09:58.08 | slackytude | Jucato, no? |
09:58.22 | Jucato | no no. what is `kde4-config --localprefix` ? |
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09:59.02 | Jucato | hm... that's weird.. afaik ServiceMenus are in ~/.kde(4)/share/services/ServiceMenus/ |
09:59.03 | andip | when i "zoom out", i can see 4 different "desktops", with differences. when i zoom in, i get my apps and stuff there, but only one background. does this mean i now have to zoom out and change, instead of pressing <ctrl+f*> to change virtual desktop and background? |
09:59.04 | slackytude | <PROTECTED> |
09:59.38 | Jucato | try to put it in ~/.kde/share/services/ServiceMenus/ |
09:59.49 | Jucato | (presuming the contents of the .desktop file you made is correct) |
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10:01.31 | andip | mind you guys, i'm "nagging" about this mostly to find out if "something" is wrong, or if i just don't understand how to do this or that. from my pow it seems alot of stuff just doesn't work, but i dunno how it's supposed to be so.. |
10:01.37 | slackytude | Jucato, no joy |
10:02.02 | slackytude | Jucato, and Im guessing it is correct since its an existing menu entry I copied over from /usr/shre and changed to foo |
10:02.26 | Jucato | you just renamed it? hm... sounds fishy |
10:02.42 | slackytude | no, I changed the name inside the file as well |
10:02.59 | slackytude | Actions=foo; |
10:02.59 | slackytude | [Desktop Action encrypt] |
10:02.59 | slackytude | Name=foo |
10:03.01 | Jucato | (may be right on the ~/.kde4/share/kde4/services/ServiceMenus/ path btw) |
10:03.21 | slackytude | there is no .kde4, just .kde |
10:03.33 | Jucato | ok. here it's ~/.kde4 for KDE4. anyway |
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10:05.56 | slackytude | afk |
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10:08.25 | lemma | andip: no, that's normal. with KDE4 you have activities (different desktops/widgets) and virtual desktops (like before) |
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10:08.45 | lemma | andip: the background is tied to the activity, so changing the virtual desktop doesn't change it. |
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10:09.00 | lemma | andip: better integration of the 2 concepts in in the works (eg. activity = virtual desktop) |
10:09.32 | rogersman | hi everyone...just wondering if anyone knows if there is an option to adjust the opacity of file preview window? thanx |
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10:09.57 | andip | lemma: thank you very much! finally a usable answer :) |
10:10.22 | wangjunfeng | Ohy! |
10:11.06 | lemma | rogersman: which file preview window do you mean? |
10:12.36 | wangjunfeng | everyone is use english.I'm Chinese. |
10:12.42 | wangjunfeng | I like it! |
10:12.46 | wangjunfeng | hehe |
10:13.33 | rindolf | wangjunfeng: Chinglish FTW! |
10:14.27 | wangjunfeng | æè®¤è¯æçåå¿çåãæä»¬èèåï¼ |
10:15.50 | Jucato | English only please |
10:16.12 | lemma | è±è¯åªå欢 |
10:16.36 | lemma | (sorry, I just love how different charactersets work seemlessly nowadays :)) |
10:17.23 | wangjunfeng | OK OK! |
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10:18.09 | rogersman | when hovering over a file on desktop, or even hovering over a title in system tray, a blank preview box comes up display the contents/full filename of said file...a very handy feature in kde 4.3, but i'de like to reduce the opacity |
10:18.23 | rogersman | blank=black :-p |
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10:21.29 | lellerbr | hallo |
10:21.36 | ebosdrie | hoi |
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10:23.03 | wangjunfeng | welcome |
10:23.06 | wangjunfeng | ^^ |
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10:23.43 | rogersman | any ideas mr lemma? |
10:23.44 | rindolf | wangjunfeng: where do you live in China? |
10:23.50 | rindolf | wangjunfeng: I don't speak Chinese. |
10:23.56 | rindolf | wangjunfeng: and cannot really read it. |
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10:26.22 | wangjunfeng | ohy! hi! I'm in BeiJing |
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10:27.50 | wangjunfeng | that's nothing that you can't speak Chinese! |
10:28.56 | wangjunfeng | Do you like China? and where do you live |
10:29.22 | lemma | rogersman: sorry, no. else I would have answered :) but clearing things up others can help you |
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10:31.56 | wangjunfeng | hehe |
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10:33.24 | derRichard | on my fresh kde4.3.1 knotfy crashes often after suspend2{ram,disk}. i'm using opensuse11.1. phonon is using the xine backend. is this a known problem? |
10:33.26 | sxe | hi |
10:33.32 | wangjunfeng | Oh! Come on! |
10:33.40 | wangjunfeng | <rindolf> |
10:34.16 | rogersman | well cheers anyway, ill file a request on kdebugs |
10:34.47 | slackytude | nothing I do has any effect -_- |
10:36.31 | Jucato | rogersman: can you give a screenshot of what you're referring to |
10:36.51 | rogersman | not at the mo...im at work ;-) |
10:37.23 | Jucato | well, then I can't be sure whether you're referring to something that's controlled by a theme |
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10:38.03 | Jucato | (if my hunch is right, then you're referring to popups like when you also hover over items on the panel, then those are theme-dependent, and there are no special controls for their opacity) |
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10:42.22 | slackytude | Jucato, got any other idea? I think I'll drop this issue otherwise, for now at least |
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10:43.11 | Jucato | slackytude: sorry. none |
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10:50.27 | nonnii | hi. I was trying to find if there is a way to configure the way that KDE4 uses KB, KiB and such. With google I only found discussions if KB or KiB should be used in KDE by default, but not a way to change the behaviour. Is there a way? I'm not willing to start a flame- or other kind of war over this, just asking if it can be configred by users. |
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10:52.25 | nonnii | btw, I would like to change my settings so that kB would be 1000 bytes, so is that possible? |
10:52.46 | rogersman | @Jucato...hmm would be nice tho...they can be a bit intrusive |
10:52.57 | szal | nonnii: that wouldn't be correct, because by definition 1 kB = 1024 bytes |
10:53.30 | nonnii | szal, I'm not gonna go there |
10:53.53 | nonnii | It's my machine and my preference |
10:54.03 | nonnii | just asking if it can be done |
10:54.05 | Jucato | rogersman: well that depends on the theme and whether you have desktop compositing/effects enabled. some themes have glass-like popups that are fairly transparent when desktop effects are enabled) |
10:56.04 | szal | nonnii: the unit itself is not a matter of discussion because it is NOT a multiplier of 10 or any power of it but a power of 2, 2^10 to be precise |
10:56.21 | szal | nonnii: as to the denominator of the unit, that's a totally different question |
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10:57.27 | nonnii | szal, so ... is it possible? |
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10:57.58 | nonnii | I know of the differing opinions, I just would like to try it out |
10:58.01 | szal | I have no idea and, honestly, I don't fsckin' care :) |
10:58.12 | nonnii | ok |
10:58.21 | rogersman | i just started using compiz so ill have a look see, cheers mate |
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10:59.25 | szal | to me the KiB, MiB, GiB and so on is fine, and as I said, the unit itself is not to be disputed, it's been internationally agreed upon the way it is |
11:00.12 | navetz | does anyone know if kde4 can comress as a zip? |
11:00.23 | navetz | i use to be able to right click on a folder and click compress as zip but now only rar and gzip are avaliable |
11:00.27 | nonnii | szal, to me KiB and such ar more than fine too, I'd just like some way to have base 10 too, in addition |
11:00.31 | navetz | i dont know if people on windows will be able to open these |
11:01.08 | lemma | navetz: try ark from kdeutils. I think it also features service menu items to do it in dolphin |
11:01.13 | szal | navetz: you Windows people can install (or have installed by their admin) 7-Zip which can uncompress about any archive format |
11:02.01 | navetz | szal: I'm not the windows person, I am trying to zip some pictures for friends. I would like it to be easy for them |
11:02.14 | lemma | nonnii: I think it might have been made configurable after that discussion but I'm not 100% sure. if it is it won't be configurable in KDE 4.3 though, only 4.4 |
11:02.32 | Jucato | navetz: Ark can handle zip |
11:02.34 | szal | navetz: put 'em in a self-extracting RAR or 7z archive ;) |
11:02.47 | nonnii | lemma, oh. Maybe I just have to wait for 4.4 of google a bit more |
11:02.50 | Jucato | (but the appropriate zip utility must be installed as well. which should be the job of your distro) |
11:02.54 | szal | so they need only double-click the archive |
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11:04.14 | navetz | ahh i got it thanks guys |
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11:09.37 | navetz | does anyone know of any packages i can install to add more functionality to my actions menu (when I right click on a picture) |
11:09.53 | navetz | in kde3 i use to be able to resize, rotate, etc pictures by just right clicking and going to actions |
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11:15.17 | lemma | navetz: check the service menus section on kde-apps.org. many actions are provided separately |
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11:16.00 | navetz | lemma: ahh thanks :D |
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11:20.58 | oneforall | whast the command to test the destop files ? |
11:21.41 | annma | desktop-file-validate |
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11:22.09 | oneforall | thansk will try that |
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11:24.52 | oneforall | http://pastebin.ca/1553710 so its like Icon=qt-recordmydesktop and not Icon=qt-recordmydesktop.png ? |
11:24.58 | pinotree | yes |
11:25.28 | oneforall | would thos warning be why its not gettign added to the menu ? |
11:26.09 | pinotree | nope |
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11:27.57 | oneforall | jjdarn I wonder what part never compiled right for apps not gettign added to the menu. even with a doinst.sh like this http://pastebin.ca/1553716 |
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11:28.35 | wangjunfeng | hello |
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11:29.14 | pinotree | oneforall: we don't use update-desktop-database at all. please paste your .desktop file, and say which is the installation path for it |
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11:29.31 | asdzxc | hi |
11:29.40 | asdzxc | is it possible to reorder taskbar in kde4 ? |
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11:30.41 | oneforall | http://pastebin.ca/1553718 thats the one with qt--recordmydesktop.desktop |
11:31.05 | oneforall | err qt-recordmydesktop src |
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11:32.37 | Torch | asdzxc: in the taskbar settings there's a dropdown called "sorting". pick "manually". |
11:32.44 | oneforall | so whats used now ? |
11:32.59 | pinotree | oneforall: where is that installed? |
11:33.03 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
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11:34.03 | asdzxc | Torch: how can then sort it ? drag&drop ? |
11:34.17 | Torch | asdzxc: yes. |
11:34.23 | oneforall | should end up under media . I think |
11:34.46 | asdzxc | Torch: btw, i can't open taskbar settings. where should i click ? |
11:35.03 | asdzxc | Torch: when i click on a window, it will open settings for that window only |
11:35.14 | asdzxc | Torch: when i click on 'free space', it will open Panel settings |
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11:35.32 | Torch | asdzxc: click on the cashew on the far right end of the panel. after that, right click on the taskbar and you'll get the context menu. |
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11:36.32 | asdzxc | Torch: cool, thnx very much |
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11:37.09 | root | hai |
11:37.24 | Guest26722 | hai |
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11:37.35 | szal | Guest26722: don't IRC as root.. |
11:37.48 | Guest26722 | hai |
11:38.19 | Guest26722 | dd |
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11:46.17 | oneforall | pinotree so whats is used to update the menu? something scans it every few mins ? and adds it to some database? |
11:46.32 | oneforall | what* |
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11:47.09 | yannf | hello |
11:47.34 | yannf | what's the tool for changing one key mapping of the keyboard? |
11:48.38 | annma | how do you mean? |
11:49.52 | szal | annma: looks like you can drop that mode now ;) |
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11:50.20 | NekawA | i'm getting so upset i'm never gonna get kopete built gonna have to abandon yahoo messenger all together at the rate i'm going |
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11:50.52 | annma | szal: ah yes |
11:51.10 | annma | (are you scared?) |
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11:51.20 | szal | why, should I? :D |
11:51.29 | annma | hehe |
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11:52.46 | sputnick | hi there. what about MS-exchange connector in kde-4.3.0 ? I read that it should be in this realease... |
11:53.05 | tuxick | *cough* |
11:53.07 | sputnick | ( or 4.3.1 ) |
11:53.16 | yannf | annma, I'd like to get Å with AltGr+shift+o |
11:53.22 | szal | who told you that? |
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11:53.48 | szal | to my knowledge an M$ Exchange connector is only available for Evolution (= Gnome) |
11:53.55 | sputnick | :/ |
11:54.11 | sputnick | if that works in gnome, that should work on kde ;) |
11:54.19 | oneforall | well I checked in root and other user and its added. now to figure out what and where in this users .kde or one of the others is interfering |
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11:54.21 | cb400f | sputnick: something is under development for akonadi.. but I think akonadi will only be at preview level for 4.4 even |
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11:54.51 | cb400f | .. but nothing supports that exchange stuff well anyway.. especially not if it's exchange 2007 afaik |
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11:55.20 | sputnick | interoprerability they said... Jesus |
11:55.26 | cb400f | maybe it should be called exchains :-) |
11:56.21 | sputnick | :) |
11:56.41 | annma | yannf: did you try SystemSettings -> Input Actions? |
11:57.24 | annma | hmm not sure how to say to print the char |
11:58.31 | annma | yannf: yes it's there |
11:58.40 | annma | look in Examples |
11:58.44 | yannf | it seems I don't have this installed |
11:58.52 | annma | what KDE version? |
11:58.57 | yannf | 3.5.10 |
11:58.59 | annma | ouch |
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11:59.05 | annma | that was kcontrol then |
11:59.15 | tuxick | i thought MAPI was proprietary |
11:59.19 | annma | see if you have an Input Actions in KControl |
11:59.23 | tuxick | license mess etc |
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11:59.36 | tuxick | or did megalosoft come up with something new now? |
12:00.36 | ttf | hi all.. I am experiencing a weird problem in 4.3: copying strings to the clipboard by marking with the mouse is not working in konsole |
12:00.37 | oneforall | .config/menus this the one that should get updated ? |
12:01.02 | ttf | when I mark a word the clipboard (klipper, xclipboard) remain empty |
12:01.22 | annma | if you mark a word from konsole you mean |
12:01.23 | ttf | when I mark a word in e.g. kmail or firefox it gets copied to the clipboard |
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12:01.46 | annma | it works here |
12:01.55 | ttf | it worked till yesterday |
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12:02.04 | annma | and what happened yesterday |
12:02.05 | ttf | I tried changing fonts in konsole - no change |
12:02.20 | ttf | nothing much - pretty sure about that |
12:02.39 | NekawA | keeps getting the same error over/over again, if anyone can recommend anything please let me know http://pastebin.com/m70dba004 |
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12:02.58 | ttf | even right-click, copy does not copy things to either clipboard |
12:03.10 | ttf | any idea where to start searching? |
12:03.16 | sxe | can someone tell me what going wrong when make sais a modul is missing. like this one: -- package 'indicate' not found. Whats a modul and where is make looking for it? |
12:03.41 | annma | try backing up konsolerc file from `kde4-config --localprefix`/share/config ttf |
12:03.58 | annma | sxe: pastebin output so we can see better please |
12:04.22 | sxe | hi annma.. you are my personal supporter right? ;) |
12:04.55 | annma | I am! |
12:05.01 | sxe | hehe .. nice :P |
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12:05.06 | annma | it'll be 10?/hour!!! |
12:05.23 | sxe | http://pastebin.ca/1553744 |
12:05.26 | sxe | here we go |
12:05.28 | lemma | NekawA: you are trying to link libkopete against too old kdelibs. |
12:05.35 | sxe | i only wont to know what a module is |
12:05.55 | ttf | annma: and then - deleting konsolerc and try in a new one? |
12:06.04 | NekawA | lemma how can i fix this i just compiled the new kdelibs from source it should be installed in the default directory |
12:06.08 | annma | backing up I said ttf |
12:06.20 | annma | close konsole, backup the config file and open konsole |
12:06.21 | lemma | NekawA: is your stable install KDE 4.1? |
12:06.38 | NekawA | not sure, how do i check that |
12:07.04 | ttf | annma: k |
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12:07.06 | annma | sxe: what module are you building? |
12:07.18 | oneforall | akonadi this what takes care of the menu and eveythign tot he database? |
12:07.43 | sxe | i'm trying to complile libindicate-qt |
12:07.49 | annma | ah |
12:07.58 | sxe | its part of the nem message indicator plasmoid for kde |
12:08.02 | lemma | NekawA: kde4-config --version |
12:08.04 | annma | so you need this indicate package probably |
12:08.09 | me`n`u | german kde channel? |
12:08.10 | lemma | NekawA: sorry, I have to leave right now. |
12:08.11 | annma | points sxe to Google |
12:08.24 | sxe | yes i have compiled libindicate.. |
12:08.28 | annma | is this libindicate-qt thing in KDE svn? |
12:08.38 | sxe | but i don't know what a "module" in this case is |
12:08.42 | sxe | thats my question :) |
12:08.47 | annma | is this libindicate-qt thing in KDE svn? |
12:08.52 | sxe | annma: no |
12:08.56 | NekawA | KDE: 4.3.1 (KDE 4.3.1) |
12:09.00 | sxe | its in launchpad |
12:09.01 | annma | OK so I cannot cjheck further |
12:09.06 | ttf | annma: okay - after closing all the konsoles and re-opening them it works again... |
12:09.10 | sxe | no sry.. |
12:09.14 | ttf | annma: thanks! |
12:09.15 | sxe | thx for your time.. |
12:09.25 | me`n`u | is there a german kde channel? |
12:09.39 | sxe | me`n`u: I'm german .. what are you looking for? |
12:09.46 | annma | sxe: pastebin the CMakeFile.txt |
12:09.53 | annma | ttf: you're welcome! |
12:10.20 | me`n`u | ich habe kubuntu [das ist doch kubuntu?] |
12:10.31 | me`n`u | *kde |
12:10.33 | sxe | me... there is a kubuntu channel .. |
12:10.37 | sxe | you should ask there i think |
12:10.43 | annma | and #kdede |
12:10.58 | annma | no sorry |
12:11.03 | me`n`u | ok... |
12:11.06 | annma | #kde-de maybe |
12:11.10 | sxe | join #kubuntu-de |
12:11.19 | me`n`u | i'm there already |
12:11.30 | sxe | ok :) |
12:11.31 | annma | #kde.de |
12:11.40 | annma | ^^ |
12:11.44 | annma | that's the one!!!! |
12:11.51 | annma | but not many people |
12:11.59 | sxe | i love the pastbin plasmoid ^^ |
12:12.07 | sxe | annma: http://pastebin.ca/1553751 |
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12:13.39 | annma | nothing really important here |
12:13.53 | sxe | i think the indicate module should be installed by an other package libindicate |
12:14.11 | sxe | i installed libindicate but i have no clue how a modeule looks like.. |
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12:14.54 | annma | sxe: try askin agateau in a private query |
12:15.13 | sxe | whos that? |
12:15.33 | annma | look here https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/karmic-changes/2009-August/005719.html |
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12:15.52 | annma | he is a kde devel now paid by Ubuntu |
12:16.04 | sxe | ah ok .. thx i will bother him ^^ |
12:16.06 | annma | he seems ivolved in this libindicate thing |
12:16.07 | sxe | thanks |
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12:32.45 | NekawA | wait..if i change my repository to testing isn't KDE 4.3 and kopete 4.3 in the testing repo? like i could install it from there and avoid all these building issues |
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12:35.35 | cb400f | Debian testing? |
12:36.55 | NekawA | yea |
12:37.23 | NekawA | i been tring to build from source with nothing but fails if it's in the repo' that would be MUCH easier |
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12:38.15 | szal | as if there were anything even remotely current in Debian :P |
12:38.42 | NekawA | not normally |
12:38.55 | NekawA | but i'm just trying to get up to version 4.x so that yahoo admin will stop messaging me |
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12:45.25 | ttf | keyboard shortcut to show all windows on all desktops in kde4? |
12:46.32 | thiago | Ctrl+F10 |
12:46.47 | thiago | with desktop effects enabled and the "Present Windows" effect on |
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12:58.02 | alexex | wtf? there are 3 plasmoids that keep appearing in the upper left corner, i didnt put there, 3 system monitors, is that a bug? |
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13:00.14 | gheller | hmm KDE on OS X/X11 is interesting |
13:00.25 | gheller | good morning all |
13:00.29 | rindolf | Hi gheller |
13:00.32 | gheller | = ) |
13:00.36 | rindolf | Uri gheller |
13:00.40 | rindolf | ;-) |
13:00.42 | GNU\colossus | kep in mind you'd still have the crappy foundation that is OS X though ;) |
13:00.47 | GNU\colossus | keep* |
13:00.52 | gheller | :P Iike OS X:P |
13:01.06 | gheller | I'd go pure Linux but I have apps that I need to run so ya |
13:01.40 | gheller | I have a Debian NetInstall disc ready if I ever decide to set up a partition for dualbootin |
13:01.47 | gheller | dualbooting* |
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13:02.08 | gheller | I'll do it when I feel like messing with drivers for Apple's iSight cam and then some |
13:02.34 | gheller | I might tackle that later today since it's my 2nd day off this week from work |
13:03.33 | gheller | for w/e reason I could only get v1.1 of Konver to build |
13:03.36 | gheller | that's so odd |
13:03.48 | gheller | brb |
13:03.55 | gheller | test |
13:04.16 | NekawA | http://i32.tinypic.com/2hs5538.jpg |
13:04.23 | NekawA | this is a screenshot of my kopete install from repositories, |
13:04.55 | NekawA | why can't I add yahoo account? there is no available accounts to add program loaded but there are no menu options and i can't add any accounts |
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13:23.30 | yannf | annma, it effectively changed the key (the old character is disabled), but the new one doesn't appear |
13:23.55 | annma | yannf: sorry I don't have kde3.5 anymore |
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13:45.18 | kcb | hi vn_ |
13:46.00 | kcb | where r u now? |
13:46.21 | kcb | r u here to chat? |
13:47.01 | MinceR | s w r |
13:47.39 | oneforall | darn what do i need to delete for the menus to get updated . Its working form other user accounts, Just not this one :( |
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13:50.51 | MinceR | oneforall: ~/.kde/cache-<yourusername>/ksycoca* ? (just an educated guess, better rename than erase) |
13:50.58 | MinceR | also, i think there's a command to update them |
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13:51.29 | MinceR | probably has something related to ksycoca in its name |
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13:52.26 | oneforall | is that whats the menu update tool writes to allso? ksycoca(the data file) |
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13:56.35 | NekawA | kopete seems to be running, 'testbed' account connects, but my yahoo account won't connect.. |
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13:58.02 | MinceR | oneforall: afaik sycoca holds the database built from the .desktop files that make up the menus |
13:58.08 | MinceR | (possibly others) |
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13:58.35 | oneforall | sycoca where is that ? |
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13:59.41 | oneforall | well crap there is nothing in /tmp/kde-guru |
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14:02.28 | MinceR | wait, i forgot to say i'm looking at kde3, it might be different on kde4 |
14:02.30 | MinceR | :) |
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14:07.38 | oneforall | I'd think kde4 still puts that ksycoca in /tmp/kde-username |
14:08.13 | XrX|Ewee | anyone knows if exchange support will be available with kde 4.4? |
14:08.25 | oneforall | ah no it the link to var |
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14:08.53 | oneforall | could have sworn it did it to the tmp one too |
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14:13.39 | userval | helpp heree someone??? |
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14:21.52 | brain0 | hey, quick question. In KDE3, there was a feature in konqueror to create a html photo gallery with previews from a folder of photos. where has it gone in kde4? |
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14:23.08 | Jucato | brain0: install kipi-plugins for KDE 4 |
14:23.31 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
14:23.41 | Jucato | you're late! |
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14:24.35 | brain0 | Jucato: done, where can I find the feature now? |
14:24.41 | Jucato | Tools menu |
14:24.59 | brain0 | in dolphin? or where? |
14:25.20 | Jucato | in Konqueror. Tools -> Create Image Gallery |
14:25.31 | Jucato | or in Gwenview as well |
14:26.08 | Jucato | in Gwenview it's under Plugins |
14:26.31 | Jucato | oh crap wait... I think the one for Konqueror is in konq-plugins (or konqueror-plugins, depending on distro) |
14:26.44 | brain0 | ah, gwenview |
14:27.00 | Jucato | ah yes sorry |
14:27.17 | Jucato | kipi-plugins has its own HTML image gallery plugin. konqueror has its own |
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14:27.33 | Jucato | the one gwenview and digikam uses is from kipi-plugins |
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14:28.13 | NekawA | hmm...no accounts can connect no icq no yahoo no nothing how wierd |
14:28.58 | Jucato | NekawA: sounds like a packaging/installation problem |
14:29.06 | Jucato | best to ask your distro about it |
14:30.36 | brain0 | Jucato: thank you, I installed kipi-plugins and used the one from gwenview. I'll also look at konq-plugins |
14:30.40 | NekawA | i just recompiled kopete from source |
14:30.51 | brain0 | goodbye and many thanks |
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14:31.10 | NekawA | distro version didn't work, but it did give me the dependencies i needed to build from source |
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14:35.44 | slackytude | I see wall and write gets displayed |
14:35.51 | oneforall | wish that was back under the help icon in the classic menu so i can just drag drop it |
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14:36.13 | Jucato | slackytude: kdialog --passivepopup "text here" <delay time> |
14:36.58 | oneforall | hmmm the classic menu even lost the lost & found entry |
14:37.02 | slackytude | Jucato, nice ^-^ thx |
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14:40.23 | blueval | what i have to do to be identified to a channel? |
14:40.51 | daum | weird - kate i told to associate *.php;*.php3;*.wml;*.phtml;*.phtm;*.inc,*.ctp with php(html) files, yet it still when i open a ctp file it doesn't highlight |
14:40.56 | daum | any ideas? |
14:41.09 | oneforall | err |
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14:41.42 | blueval | what i have to do to be identified to a channel? |
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14:43.59 | oneforall | geez even save in the menu editoriosn't bring them mback :( |
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14:50.22 | oneforall | ahh it just clicked in my head every upgrade the damn Home.desktop for konq file manager mode. will allways have this crap now "NoDisplay=true" :( |
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14:51.20 | rogersman | anyone experiencing odd mouse scrolling weirdness? my mouse wheel works okay but every so often it will go in the direction opposite to what i want....anyone else? |
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14:56.09 | slackytude | uh |
14:56.20 | slackytude | how do I make a new launcher on desktop |
14:56.27 | slackytude | gotta do it with dolphin? |
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14:58.21 | slackytude | actually |
14:58.32 | slackytude | why dont I see the crap that is on my Desktop folder |
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14:58.47 | slackytude | sorry for bugging you guys, I used xfce for years |
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15:03.34 | oneforall | so what is it that runs and updates the menus ? and what file is it that gets edited when it does? |
15:03.50 | Jucato | slackytude: by default, there should be a widget/applet on your desktop that is set to show the ~/Desktop folder. you can drop in there, resize it to make it larger, etc |
15:04.19 | slackytude | Jucato, hrm |
15:04.25 | Jucato | if you want to make the whole desktop be your ~/Desktop folder again, right-click on the desktop -> Desktop Settings -> switch Type to Folder View |
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15:06.11 | oneforall | I notice that deaktop folder from setting up new users the home one does nothing and the k . I have to wait and press hard on my mouse or it just shows up for a split second |
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15:06.14 | slackytude | Jucato, I see |
15:06.19 | slackytude | Jucato, interesting |
15:07.10 | slackytude | Jucato, can this folder applet be minimized? |
15:07.10 | Jucato | minimized? nope. closed/removed? yes |
15:07.28 | slackytude | this will need some getting used too, but its nice |
15:07.45 | neverendingo__ | slackytude: switch it back to default desktop, right click on the desktop -> add widgets and d&d folderview to the desktop |
15:08.03 | neverendingo__ | slackytude: then you can resize it in any way |
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15:08.05 | oneforall | slackytude wait till you try and do a diff bg for each desktop :) |
15:09.25 | slackytude | neverendingo__, ah, cool |
15:09.32 | slackytude | neverendingo__, need to clean that one out |
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15:10.41 | neverendingo__ | slackytude: there is also another option for launchers: right click on the menu entry you wish to have on the desktop -> select "add to desktop" |
15:11.02 | neverendingo__ | slackytude: but the last way will not add an entry to your Desktop folder |
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15:15.46 | ForgeAus | wheres the best place to find a kde3.5.x (9 or above) for interix? |
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15:16.27 | ForgeAus | if I want kde4 theres always kde4win native ... |
15:17.05 | ForgeAus | and mac has macports and/or fink at least one of them has kde3 |
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15:20.19 | oneforall | wish the right click on the panel had the menu in the list so you can click on the app you want right where the mouse is |
15:20.38 | oneforall | still lost of missing right click |
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15:44.39 | marisn | any ideas why task manager displays one window as present on all desktops? I have enabled display only active desktop windows option. |
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15:46.15 | ForgeAus | uh because its paranoid? lol |
15:47.17 | marisn | ForgeAus: n/f On Desktop1 where window is located I see two window names in Task manager and both reffer to same window... |
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16:20.15 | oneforall | why is it now in kong(file manager mode) when I middle click for a picture to open in quckshow. It open but it also opens another tab :( |
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16:20.59 | oneforall | worked so nice in kde3 |
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17:03.15 | Newbie16 | hi all |
17:03.28 | Newbie16 | i've lost plasma, it started but then disappeared, what is the new command to start it? |
17:03.42 | Newbie16 | ah plasma-desktop |
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17:26.58 | hoban | hello everyone. Can someone please suggest a good plasmoid/applet/whatever that will either prompt for my kerberos password and perform a kinit for me or integrate with KDM so it can use the same password, then tell me when my kerberos ticket has expired and prompt me for the password again to get a new ticket? |
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17:35.36 | Nece228 | ive got strange problem |
17:35.58 | Nece228 | ive installed gnome, then uninstall and when i back to kde 4.3.1 kde works horribly slow |
17:36.16 | Nece228 | when i run kde with other user everything is fast |
17:36.53 | Nece228 | it happens only to one user |
17:36.57 | Nece228 | whats wrong? |
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17:44.46 | sky_1 | Hi where i can check answer for my mail to kde-artists ? |
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17:45.27 | xxtjaxx | sky_1 get a mailing list account so you can get mailing list mails to you |
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17:46.12 | hoban | hello everyone. Can someone please suggest a good plasmoid/applet/whatever that will either prompt for my kerberos password and perform a kinit for me or integrate with KDM so it can use the same password, then tell me when my kerberos ticket has expired and prompt me for the password again to get a new ticket? |
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17:47.15 | Nece228 | anybody know anwser? |
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17:52.40 | Nece228 | it looks like ill have to recreate user... damn, i already did that few times |
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18:49.28 | berniyh | hi there |
18:49.42 | berniyh | is it possible to import tbirds message filters into kmail? |
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18:56.53 | e01 | hello |
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18:57.47 | e01 | i have problem with default dolphin in kde4.2.4 |
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18:58.28 | e01 | the dolphin try to cache the file first |
18:58.37 | e01 | how can i set to not cache it |
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19:03.46 | ttf | what's the keyboard shortcut to show all windows on all desktops in kde4? |
19:03.54 | ttf | I'm not having desktop effects enabled |
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19:06.48 | blkdg | hello, i am using kde 4.2 with slackware 13.0. how do i add an icon to a kde menu? |
19:08.30 | blkdg | i would like to add amdcccle to my kde menu, but i can't. how do i add this? i tried the kde menu update tool and it does not see amdcccle |
19:08.36 | maour | is this ok ? :-/ http://pastebin.ca/1554137 by installing kdepimlibs5 , i should remove some packages ?! |
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19:10.10 | Guest96882 | how do I get konqueuror in kola to stop adding www to addresses? |
19:10.20 | Peace- | blkdg: omg... right button |
19:10.53 | Peace- | blkdg: like in kde 3.5 but maybe that feauters was added on kde 4.3 |
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19:11.07 | heroid | hi |
19:11.29 | blkdg | i'm in the system settings window and i can't right click Peace- |
19:11.29 | heroid | how do i install kde3.5 in ubuntu jaunty? |
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19:11.41 | Guest96882 | kubuntu.org |
19:11.43 | Peace- | blkdg: right on the dock |
19:11.52 | Guest96882 | but seriously " |
19:11.54 | blkdg | oh thatks!\ |
19:12.07 | Peace- | heroid: there are some repo for that |
19:12.12 | Guest96882 | how do I get konqueror to stop adding www to addresses? |
19:12.22 | Guest96882 | its driving me nuts. |
19:12.30 | Peace- | heroid: but.... i think kde 3 is dead and kde 4 is pretty nice |
19:12.35 | blkdg | i'm just getting use to this. |
19:12.41 | blkdg | thanks agian |
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19:12.46 | Guest96882 | how do I get konqueror to stop adding a www to .i2p addreses? |
19:12.55 | Peace- | !repeat |
19:12.59 | Peace- | omg |
19:13.11 | szal | Peace-: wrong channel ;) |
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19:13.32 | Peace- | xD szal |
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19:14.16 | Guest96882 | pm me I have to go. |
19:15.04 | fax8 | hi all, I'd like to have click mouse wheel scrolling for kde apps.. is that possible to enable? |
19:15.08 | heroid | ahh can i has the repo |
19:15.11 | Ash-Fox | me I have to go. |
19:15.19 | Ash-Fox | -> *me* I have to go. |
19:15.20 | Ash-Fox | Done |
19:15.21 | Ash-Fox | :D |
19:15.56 | szal | lol |
19:15.58 | Peace- | heroid: i think on www.kubuntu.org , news... you can get that informations |
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19:16.12 | Peace- | *on news |
19:16.22 | heroid | thanks |
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19:19.11 | Peace- | heroid: found out https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/Kde3/Jaunty |
19:19.41 | heroid | thanks |
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19:23.25 | messerting | Hi, after I installed LXDE, it seems xdg-open want to use Xarchiver instead of Ark. how can I change it back? |
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19:25.26 | blkdg | hello, i am using kde 4.2 with slack 13.0. if i make a file with kate, and save it to my /Desktop, why isn't the icon for that file on my desktop? i can see it with an ls or with dolphin. |
19:26.34 | messerting | blkdg: you need to add the file widget or plasmoid or whatever it is called :) |
19:27.32 | blkdg | ah |
19:27.35 | messerting | blkdg: It is called "Folder View" I think. |
19:27.35 | blkdg | ? |
19:27.39 | blkdg | ok |
19:27.42 | thiago_home | or switch the desktop to folderview |
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19:28.09 | messerting | thiago_home: how do we do that? |
19:28.09 | blkdg | exclent! |
19:28.15 | blkdg | thanks messerting |
19:28.20 | messerting | np |
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19:31.06 | thiago_home | right-click the desktop, Configure Desktop |
19:31.10 | thiago_home | choose Folderview |
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19:53.32 | messerting | thiago_home: oh, simple as that. thanks :) |
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20:13.17 | Ideogroabpf | Hey does kwin have something like the color filter plugin in compiz? |
20:13.38 | mgraesslin | what does the color filter plugin? |
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20:14.08 | Ideogroabpf | ahh, will a youtube explain well? |
20:14.09 | Tatsh | how do i make KDE 4 pop up notifications for newly plugged in devices like my flash drive? |
20:14.36 | mechanical_man_ | Tatsh: thas an own plasmoid |
20:14.43 | ajox | hey all. i want to create a theme for my Sony Ericsson Handy and need oxygen artwork files... do you know good ressources for that= |
20:14.44 | Tatsh | i have that plasmoid enabled |
20:14.45 | ajox | ? |
20:14.49 | Tatsh | but i'd rather it pop up on its own |
20:14.57 | Ideogroabpf | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=StCnAIPXaNU it's pretty clearly labelled inbetween other features shown in the video |
20:14.59 | Tatsh | kde 3 used to do this (that is my argument :P) |
20:15.10 | mechanical_man_ | Tatsh: it should pop up, if a new device is detected |
20:15.16 | Ideogroabpf | in this demo it's seen as making everything green |
20:15.34 | Tatsh | does it have to be on the bar mechanical_man ? |
20:15.48 | mgraesslin | I don't want to watch a 6 min Compiz showoff ;-) |
20:16.00 | Ideogroabpf | it's in the beginning really |
20:16.09 | Ideogroabpf | the filter part ends before 1:30 |
20:16.20 | Tatsh | Device Notifier right? |
20:16.43 | Ideogroabpf | I'm not sure it will serve my needs anyway but I'll have to try and see first |
20:18.01 | mechanical_man_ | Tatsh: yes, device nofifier. and yes, you should place it e.g. on the taskbar |
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20:18.09 | mgraesslin | Ideogroabpf: there is an invert effect in kwin |
20:18.23 | Ideogroabpf | Well, that's useful for other things |
20:18.25 | MTGap_ | <PROTECTED> |
20:18.58 | Ideogroabpf | I guess what I'm really interested is in compressing the color space into a smaller color space really |
20:19.03 | Ideogroabpf | -really |
20:19.25 | Ideogroabpf | But uhh, nobody's probably got around to making something like that yet |
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20:30.29 | Karistian | Hi there. This may be a stupid question but: Where can I configure the signature in kmail? |
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20:33.22 | thiago_home | in the KMail settings |
20:33.34 | thiago_home | Settings, Configure KMail, in the identity |
20:34.35 | Karistian | thiago_home: Ahhhhhhh! Identity! I searched and searched and didn't find it. There it is! :) Thank you! :) |
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20:49.10 | Ideogroabpf | I'd hate to interrupt the idle but does anyone know of water effects for kwin |
20:49.21 | mgraesslin | yes |
20:49.34 | mgraesslin | there is one unfinished in a git branch on my harddisk |
20:50.56 | Ideogroabpf | hmm, I'll ask you about it sometime then |
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20:51.34 | mgraesslin | let's say it clear: that was playing around with technology and is like the compiz one totally slow |
20:51.48 | Ideogroabpf | Aww! :C It's cool |
20:52.03 | mgraesslin | oh and I have no idea about physics so it is not really correct |
20:52.08 | Ideogroabpf | I can always get the latter if I reeeeally want it |
20:52.20 | mgraesslin | it's just a sine curve expanding on the screen |
20:53.02 | Sarah` | Hi, everyone. I just installed Arch Linux, Xorg, and KDE. It seems that it's not allowing me to set a display resolution greater than 1024x768, despite my laptop being 1280x800 natively. |
20:53.05 | Sarah` | Could someone pretty please give me a hand? |
20:53.44 | mgraesslin | Ideogroabpf: http://imagebin.ca/view/gCeOUoC.html |
20:53.56 | mgraesslin | that's from end of April and probably the last state |
20:54.19 | Ideogroabpf | Yeah the wave dynamics have been done quite awesome in compiz |
20:54.40 | mgraesslin | the borders? |
20:54.47 | mgraesslin | that would not be that difficult |
20:54.56 | Ideogroabpf | borders? |
20:55.23 | mgraesslin | or water walls or how they are called |
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20:59.05 | hallowname | Sarah`: #archlinux or wiki.archlinux.org's x section... |
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21:02.29 | Soup-N-Sandwich | anybody familar with Diskdrake/Harddrake? |
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21:03.05 | thiago_home | -> #mandriva |
21:04.23 | Soup-N-Sandwich | thanks |
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21:09.03 | hallowname | meh i would give a kidneystone for kopete to do myspaceim. i have to use pidgin -.- |
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21:10.27 | GNU\colossus | myspaceim⦠for those who've overcome cancer, and are willing to cope with something even more ugly. |
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21:10.40 | GNU\colossus | isn't myspaceim also just XMPP? |
21:10.58 | GNU\colossus | if it isn't, it's about as stupid as the site's average user (no offense ;)) |
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21:15.17 | nescius | once, back in pre kde4 times, someone was advertising how cool the kde4 will be and mentioned automatic language detection into spellcheck |
21:15.47 | thiago_home | yeah |
21:15.58 | thiago_home | unfortunately, the developer doing that disappeared |
21:16.06 | thiago_home | we haven't heard from him at all |
21:16.06 | nescius | among other things forgoten, well, at least we have rotating plasma widgets |
21:16.08 | thiago_home | we're worried |
21:16.19 | thiago_home | not forgotten |
21:16.22 | nescius | thiago_home: sorry :) |
21:16.23 | thiago_home | I've just given you a reason |
21:18.14 | cb400f | nescius: it would be unfair to the competition if akonadi, nepomuk/strigi, sonnet, decibel etc. all just worked feature complete already :-) |
21:18.42 | nescius | thiago_home: well, i am not surre if my language skillz would be good enough to do c++ without the spellcheck :) not mentioning guessing if we are speaking in american or english.. or italian and spanish |
21:18.59 | nescius | cb400f: i am using opensuse.. |
21:19.58 | nescius | cb400f: none of what you mentioned does work here in 4.3.1 |
21:20.18 | nescius | not even its repository.. |
21:20.36 | cb400f | exactly ... it would be unfair if it did work :-) |
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21:20.46 | cb400f | already |
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21:21.33 | nescius | so, do you have any idea what that spellcheck guy had in mind? |
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21:22.16 | cb400f | not really.. seem to remember it was claimed that about 20 chars would be enough to judge which language was used |
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21:22.38 | cb400f | maybe it's just to check installed hunspell dictionaries and see what fits best |
21:22.47 | NSaibot | am i supposed to activate somethin on identi.ca in order the microblog widget to work? |
21:23.10 | NSaibot | so far i only see my avatar, but no messages at all. |
21:23.16 | nescius | i mean how do you want to do such thing? ...maybe if all related spellcheck languages would be installed.. |
21:24.39 | cb400f | maybe it was supposed to assume that the user had installed the dictionaries for the languages he knows |
21:24.44 | cb400f | and wants to write |
21:24.51 | thiago_home | probably frequency check |
21:25.18 | cb400f | most people would prolly only need 2-3 langs max |
21:25.45 | cb400f | of course a few crazies know 100+ langs.. but that's prolly not what the sonnet guy had in mind |
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21:27.21 | nescius | that would only mean doing some quick reference checks for words which still could be misspelled against 2-3 arrays containing few tousands words at least |
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21:30.38 | nescius | excuse my engrish, konversation spellcheck refuses to switch itself :) |
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21:40.31 | nescius | cb400f: maybe some linguist could help.. i suspect that some languages using latin could use some letters more often than others and even some accents, but then what about people who dont use the accents at all? l33t ppls.. |
21:41.09 | cb400f | detecting the language would be useless without the dictionaries installed anyway |
21:41.37 | cb400f | I think you're making much more of it, than was ever intended |
21:42.25 | cb400f | I think the point was just to let people easily have spellcheck for eg English and their native language |
21:42.49 | cb400f | without manual switching back and forth |
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21:48.24 | nescius | cool :) English and American :D however, this will be still a bit more problematic thing to do, unless the other language is not simplified chinise or kanji or something like that.. |
21:48.36 | netsurf3 | hi all, is it possible to write context menu scripts for running on files. for example convert this selected file to an ipod compatible format |
21:48.49 | netsurf3 | similar to the nautilus scripts |
21:48.57 | nescius | netsurf3: yes, it is possible |
21:49.18 | netsurf3 | nescius, where can i find out how to do this? |
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21:49.45 | nescius | kde-apps.org contains some examples of that, good luck. |
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21:58.58 | Titan8990 | has anyone else had an issue with konsole displaying the cursor an extra char to the right and the fonts moving positions when highlighting? I am running kde 4.2 with nvidia drivers |
21:59.20 | thiago_home | yes |
21:59.27 | thiago_home | it means the font metrics are wrong |
21:59.53 | Titan8990 | thiago_home, thanks, is the kde specific or system wide? |
21:59.59 | Titan8990 | s/the/that |
22:00.17 | thiago_home | could be either |
22:00.22 | thiago_home | could be also konsole-specific |
22:00.33 | thiago_home | does it happen for every text, or just after some characters? |
22:00.44 | debugger | Titan8990: It's distro specific... |
22:01.07 | Titan8990 | debugger, and of course im using a distro that i don't typically.... |
22:01.15 | debugger | Titan8990: Just play with the preferences, set a good font, check the preferences. |
22:01.18 | debugger | Err |
22:01.27 | debugger | -preferences +settings |
22:01.39 | debugger | I mean, konsole's settings |
22:03.17 | Titan8990 | wouldn't even be having this problem if suse had a mrxvt package in the repos |
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22:08.26 | Titan8990 | i changed font to fixed width and its fine now |
22:08.45 | Titan8990 | thanks again for the help |
22:13.04 | esaym153 | anyone here like akonadi ? |
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22:22.16 | e01 | esaym153: i not like it |
22:22.50 | Titan8990 | i just had a look at it, concept sounds nice |
22:23.05 | Titan8990 | but imo might as well just mount /home via NFS, accomplishes the same thing |
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22:31.46 | esaym153 | yea, wonder why it is being forced on us |
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22:32.12 | esaym153 | maybe it will be optional in the future, it sure isn't know |
22:32.16 | esaym153 | now* |
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22:51.53 | Guest96882 | hi guys. how do I keep konqueror from adding www to addresses |
22:52.07 | sysop2 | hi guys. how do I keep konqueror from adding www to addresses |
22:52.15 | thiago_home | it doesn't add |
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22:52.57 | sysop2 | it does |
22:53.08 | thiago_home | it has never done it here |
22:54.19 | sysop2 | it does it on .i2p addresses |
22:54.38 | sysop2 | I bet it doesnt because its a .com or whatever normal address you use. |
22:57.45 | thiago_home | give me an example of something you type and it adds www |
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23:03.10 | Penguiniator | It does if you type http:// |
23:03.48 | thiago_home | well, you can't expect Konqueror to show anything if you type just http:// |
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23:04.58 | JakeSays | hey is kde 4.3 available for osx? |
23:05.43 | Penguiniator | it tries to complete what you type by prepending http://www. before the text you're typing. It's plain to see. Even just typing s single h does it. |
23:06.15 | Penguiniator | a |
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23:08.17 | Sho_ | JakeSays: I think there's a #kde-mac, and #fink is also applicable |
23:09.42 | JakeSays | Sho_: ok thanks |
23:11.01 | thiago_home | Penguiniator: so? |
23:11.04 | thiago_home | Penguiniator: what's the big deal? |
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23:11.39 | Penguiniator | the op wants to know how to disable it... not get an argument about whether it behaves that way. |
23:12.04 | thiago_home | you can't disable it |
23:12.12 | Penguiniator | better answer |
23:12.14 | thiago_home | it's offering you an extra choice |
23:12.23 | thiago_home | why do you want to get the choice that you already have? |
23:12.37 | thiago_home | doesn't see the point of completing something with nothing |
23:12.45 | thiago_home | it's not completing, it's just giving you back what you already had |
23:12.54 | Penguiniator | right |
23:12.57 | JakeSays | thinks thiago_home is ubiquitous. |
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23:34.15 | oneforall | darn I changed the file amanger but when I pop in a cd/dvd it opns in that thunar :( |
23:34.43 | sysop2 | thiago: sorry got dragged away http://forum.i2p |
23:34.56 | sysop2 | becomes http://www.forum.i2p |
23:35.28 | sysop2 | I cant figure a way around it. |
23:35.55 | Penguiniator | avoid typing in http://. Just type forum.i2p instead |
23:36.01 | sysop2 | ok brb |
23:36.18 | sysop2 | same |
23:36.53 | Penguiniator | the ptb say it can't be disabled. |
23:37.07 | sysop2 | the ptb? wtf is a ptb? |
23:37.16 | Penguiniator | powers that be |
23:37.45 | sysop2 | oh ok. can it be a changable feature in a upcoming version? |
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23:38.33 | sysop2 | it makes using i2p and konqueror almost impossible. |
23:39.16 | Penguiniator | that's a question for the devs |
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23:39.47 | sysop2 | is there another channel for the devs or do I have to wait for them to be in channel? |
23:40.42 | Penguiniator | there should be another channel... don't know off the top of my head what it is |
23:42.47 | oneforall | err how doi I get it to load in the file manager I want ? |
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23:45.52 | Jahooty | is it possible with kde 4 do have a traditional style desktop with icons on it? |
23:49.21 | oneforall | I have a couple icons on it ;) |
23:49.30 | oneforall | k3b for 1 |
23:50.00 | Jahooty | i don't want a plasmoid though, i want a real desktop |
23:50.04 | Jahooty | can i have that? |
23:50.27 | oneforall | oh dunno . |
23:51.35 | oneforall | all I know so far is I had to fix the desktop file for konq file manager mode to apear in the menu. home.desktop. |
23:51.49 | oneforall | classic menu and classic setting |
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23:53.01 | nescius | sysop2: bugreport that, whatever it is... |
23:53.15 | nescius | sysop2: what is it anyway? |
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23:54.01 | sysop2 | nescius: it keeps adding a www to .i2p addresses. as in forum.i2p becomes www.forum.i2p |
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23:54.35 | nescius | and using konqueror is almost impossible. |
23:55.00 | nescius | sysop2: which version? |
23:55.22 | nescius | 4.3.1 does not add anything, it just plain fail in whatever browser |
23:56.08 | sysop2 | I am running kde 4.3 |
23:56.09 | nescius | by the way, www is never added by a browser, it is usually http redirect |
23:56.32 | nescius | thus a webserver issue |
23:56.34 | sysop2 | well since I am never making it to the page it cant be a http redirect |
23:57.25 | nescius | since all browsers i have here could not connect to the server, i would not blame konqueror for this one this time |
23:57.40 | sysop2 | well it works fine in firefox. |
23:58.04 | nescius | well not for my firefox |
23:58.05 | sysop2 | .i2p address are like .onion addreses. you can only connect to them if you using i2p. |
23:58.17 | nescius | ah right, torr? |
23:58.23 | sysop2 | like tor but not. |
23:58.33 | nescius | aha, ok |
23:58.55 | sysop2 | just google i2p its pretty intresting. |
23:58.58 | sysop2 | but |
23:59.09 | sysop2 | I cant use konqueror with it at all. |