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| 00:02.13 | Sho_ | MTGap: well the freedesktop.org standard only specifies some icons |
| 00:02.24 | Sho_ | MTGap: Oxygen has many more icons, with the naming following the rules of the standarsd |
| 00:02.26 | Sho_ | *standard |
| 00:02.46 | MTGap | uh so anyway to tell what icon an application is using |
| 00:03.00 | MTGap | (not the application icon, just an icon in the application) |
| 00:03.02 | Sho_ | looking at the source |
| 00:03.42 | MTGap | fun lol |
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| 00:03.52 | MTGap | they are all in trunk? |
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| 00:11.58 | Sho_ | MTGap: the icons? yeah |
| 00:12.37 | MTGap | ok thanks I'll take a look |
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| 00:56.30 | simcop2387 | is there any option to have kmail remember grouping information on all threads in my mailboxes (i'm using imap, can switch to virtually anything else if necessary) |
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| 00:57.38 | PhrkOnLsh | you should use ftp. |
| 00:57.38 | PhrkOnLsh | ducks |
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| 01:00.15 | simcop2387 | PhrkOnLsh: hmm can you do mbox/maildir over ftp...? that would be a really hairy ordeal |
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| 01:01.55 | cor | mount sftp in fstab, looks like local folder |
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| 01:02.57 | cor | you need ssh access, though, not regular ftp. that may be doable, too, but I've not looked into it. kio slaves make most protocols transparent, in the right apps |
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| 01:15.42 | carpii | how do i stop kmail showing little notification windows as its checking each accounts mail ? its making my life unhappy :( |
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| 01:17.16 | cor | notifications are making all our lives unhappy. the developer fled to siberia |
| 01:17.30 | Jucato | ... |
| 01:17.40 | cor | try launching kate with 30 sftp documents! |
| 01:17.58 | Jucato | cor: you're referring to the same thing |
| 01:18.22 | cor | my bad, I assumed kmail use the kde system notifications. I use thunderbird |
| 01:18.45 | Jucato | carpii: there's an up/down arrow beside the progress bar at the bottom of the window. click it to make notifications hide |
| 01:18.56 | cor | DON'T CLICK THAT! |
| 01:19.02 | cor | that's just the start of MORE trouble! |
| 01:19.21 | Jucato | cor: it's both to show and hide |
| 01:19.30 | carpii | heh |
| 01:19.35 | carpii | so should i or shouldnt i ? |
| 01:19.41 | cor | hide my nutt! |
| 01:19.43 | Jucato | kmail doesn't show notifications (that will popup in plasma) by default |
| 01:19.49 | carpii | thanks Jucato |
| 01:20.03 | Jucato | carpii: test it yourself. it's not destructive as cor would like you to believe |
| 01:20.03 | carpii | i think thats fixed it. I knew i hadnt gone in and changed any settings, which is why it was a bit odd :) |
| 01:20.07 | Jucato | it's an on/off switch |
| 01:20.10 | carpii | its ok, seems to work fine |
| 01:20.22 | carpii | my life is rosy again \o/ |
| 01:20.28 | cor | bastard |
| 01:20.33 | Jucato | still thinks cor is referring to a completely different thing |
| 01:20.39 | cor | quite possibly |
| 01:20.46 | carpii | and seems quite angry about it, too |
| 01:20.50 | Jucato | and if you're not using kmail, how the hell do you know what it does/doesn't do? |
| 01:20.59 | cor | I ended up disabling them, so now they are wee regular windows |
| 01:21.07 | Jucato | yes. completely different thing |
| 01:21.10 | cor | which you MUST NOT minimize, or else you will never see again |
| 01:21.30 | Jucato | and I reiterate [09:21] <Jucato> kmail doesn't show notifications (that will popup in plasma, which is cor's issue) by default |
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| 01:22.46 | cor | not angry, not at all. |
| 01:22.50 | cor | more amused. |
| 01:23.00 | carpii | :p |
| 01:23.07 | carpii | well thats good |
| 01:23.09 | Jucato | confusing carpii in the process |
| 01:23.13 | carpii | ppl shouldnt be angry on a sunday night |
| 01:23.20 | cor | it was fun, though |
| 01:23.20 | carpii | esp when theres no work tmrw :D |
| 01:23.54 | cor | nice one |
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| 01:31.05 | eypherath | Does someone here know something about 4.3 under deb-sid? |
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| 01:34.19 | ganymede | hi, i'm using kate and it's getting slow an unresponsive when i type in really long lines. by the time i'm at line 3088, column 1000 or something like, it slows down so when i type, the letters don't show up immediately but i have to wait for them to keep up with my typing. this is on a p4 2.4 ghz with 1 GB of RAM. this happens either when LaTeX syntax highlighting is enabled or with no syntax highlighting. does anyone know how i can sp |
| 01:34.19 | ganymede | eed kate up? |
| 01:34.42 | ganymede | this really makes it difficult to type; it's even worse than typing without looking at the screen because the letters not coming up on time is disorienting |
| 01:35.04 | cor | happens to me, too. |
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| 01:35.26 | cor | on 32 bit and 64 bit platforms and a range of specs |
| 01:36.14 | cor | I haven't noticed it for a long while, but then, I;ve mostly been working with short files these last couple of months! |
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| 01:36.32 | ganymede | cor: yeah, i would have switched to emacs for these documents but emacs doesn't really have a scrollbar...except non-console emacs, but that has a terrible font last time i checked |
| 01:37.17 | ganymede | i can't switch to any other text editor because KDE fonts look too nice and clear and when you're typing really long latex paragraphs, clarity becomes important |
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| 01:37.30 | viana | hi all |
| 01:37.36 | cor | I'm hoping the Komodo crew keep at it, a moz-based text editor, that makes up the holy trinity |
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| 01:37.48 | cor | but it sucks with kio |
| 01:38.10 | ganymede | ever since fuse, kio has been less of a requirement |
| 01:38.11 | Timslin | how do i change the icons in F11 KDE? |
| 01:38.27 | viana | i can't find my program in the bottom when it minimium |
| 01:38.41 | cor | I don't know anything about fuse |
| 01:38.50 | eypherath | Well...Maybe I'll just ask my question...In sidux with kde 4.3 kpackage doesn't work at all, but is still installed...But deleting it will delete a metapackage called kdeadmin also...Is kdeadmin as important as it sounds and if, is there a way to get rid of kpackage? |
| 01:39.11 | PhrkOnLsh | i prefer kio over fuse, tbh |
| 01:39.14 | cor | viana, you can set it to show windows form *all* desktops. it sounds like your window is on another desktop. but maybe not. |
| 01:39.17 | ganymede | cor: it's like kio but not limited to KDE apps, it's usable by any apps |
| 01:39.27 | cor | I like the sound of that! |
| 01:39.38 | cor | that's kio's greatest weakness, for sure |
| 01:40.09 | Jucato | eypherath: that's a very distro-specific question. you'll have to ask in Debian's channel |
| 01:40.45 | eypherath | @Jucato: Thanks...Will do just that... |
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| 01:41.17 | Jucato | ganymede: doing what FUSE does is afaik just a part of what KIO provides. it's not a complete 1:1 replacement. (and there's kio_fuse I think) |
| 01:41.45 | ganymede | Jucato: i'm not sure what kio does that fuse doesn't, sorry |
| 01:43.04 | ganymede | (unless it's something really technical and obscure) |
| 01:43.12 | viana | how can i show work station |
| 01:43.21 | viana | and i can't find it |
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| 01:44.55 | Timslin | do Gnome icons work in KDE? |
| 01:45.53 | richerVE | Timslin: Gnome icons? any icon must work |
| 01:46.38 | richerVE | Timslin: if your question is, if it appears in kde menu, well, that depends |
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| 01:47.46 | Timslin | richerVE, i use KDE and want to use these icons http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Desktop-Environment/Icons/Crystal-SVG-49231.shtml |
| 01:47.46 | Jucato | Timslin: those parts of the theme that complies with the freedesktop.org standard for icon names will work in KDE. but there will be some that are not covered by the gnome icons |
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| 01:48.07 | Jucato | (Crystal SVG is a KDE icon theme though) |
| 01:48.35 | richerVE | Timslin: Jucato has the answer |
| 01:48.56 | cor | any icons work, if they are in the right places |
| 01:49.04 | cor | and they aren't .ico files! |
| 01:49.18 | Jucato | cor: not really. they should have the right names as well |
| 01:49.24 | Jucato | :P |
| 01:49.35 | cor | I'm not saying a "theme" could drop into place |
| 01:49.35 | Timslin | thanls |
| 01:49.47 | cor | but icons themselves are cross-platform ;o) |
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| 01:57.27 | Timslin | how do i install the icons? |
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| 02:03.54 | notKlaatu | anyone ever had any trouble assigning the encryption gpg in kmail ? |
| 02:04.09 | notKlaatu | i can set my signing method, just not encryption |
| 02:04.17 | isaacvv | are some keys not supported by KDE yet? For example brightness up/down, sleep, etc.... |
| 02:04.24 | isaacvv | it says key not supported by Qt |
| 02:05.37 | Timslin | where can i find this control centerin kde? search doesn't give any results http://linux.softpedia.com/progScreenshots/Oxygen-icons-script-Screenshot-31149.html (3rd picture) |
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| 02:07.09 | notKlaatu | Timslin: system settings |
| 02:07.15 | notKlaatu | Timslin: i assume you're in kde4 |
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| 02:07.42 | notKlaatu | Timslin: just do an alt-F2 and type in system settings. should take you right to it. icon is a hammer and wrench or something. |
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| 02:10.15 | notKlaatu | Timslin: i think you're looking for the Appearance sub menu. |
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| 02:10.46 | notKlaatu | Timslin: oh, no, that's from kde3. nevermind.... |
| 02:10.55 | notKlaatu | didn't really look at the pic very hard, sorry. |
| 02:11.36 | Jucato | Timslin: what KDE version are you on? |
| 02:11.56 | Timslin | jucato, how do i find out? |
| 02:12.20 | Jucato | in a KDE app, go to the Help menu -> About KDE |
| 02:12.43 | Timslin | Jucato, 4.3.0 |
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| 02:13.00 | Timslin | found it, it's in system settings>apearence |
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| 02:15.27 | sir_lewk | is there a way to disable the white atmosphere "halo" around earth when using the marble desktop thing? |
| 02:15.38 | cor | samba users: sudo aptitude install kdenetwork-filesharing |
| 02:15.47 | cor | a system settings applet for samba! |
| 02:15.57 | Timslin | if i download icons/fonts/splash screens etc etc where do i place them so they show up automatically in system settings>appearence? |
| 02:16.40 | Jucato | Timslin: it's much easier to just install them from the GUI (drag and drop for icons) |
| 02:17.04 | Jucato | saves you the hassle of unzipping/extracting those (they usually come in archives) and manually placing them in the proper locations |
| 02:17.50 | Timslin | Jucato, sorry i don't understand, how do i install them via the GUI? |
| 02:18.36 | Timslin | Jucato, ignore me. Not very familiar with Linux and ask stupid questions at time |
| 02:19.03 | cor | the applets have buttons for you to install themes and such, no? |
| 02:19.33 | cor | I didn't realize you could drag icons into icon dialogs, though, gotta try that |
| 02:19.41 | Jucato | System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons, Splash Screen, System Settings -> Font installer |
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| 02:23.20 | Timslin | Jucato, changing things wouldn't cause system instabiolity would it |
| 02:23.59 | Jucato | it shouldn't. changes are local (user only) and are just cosmetic (appearances only) |
| 02:24.53 | Timslin | Jucato, cool thank you. wanted to change things for a while now and didn;t have a clue how to go about it :) |
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| 02:30.34 | M0E_lnx | guys, where does kde3 expect the user face icons to be located? |
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| 02:31.43 | cor | to me that equates to buying a peecee and just admiring the outside of the case, the smoothness of the monitor. |
| 02:31.59 | cor | switch it on!, explore em buttons! |
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| 02:36.58 | oneforall | hmm lots of effects that don't want to work now. popup saying the cube etc . |
| 02:39.01 | oneforall | that might be from the weird way to get individual bg's on the desktops ? |
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| 02:42.01 | cor | one interesting effect of the multiple-desktop "activities" is that the "cube" splins through all sides when you login. makes ye dizzy |
| 02:42.36 | Miesco | Is KDE making a webkit browser? |
| 02:43.32 | oneforall | lol I still just do startx . But then I rarely shut down |
| 02:44.22 | oneforall | I take it that "activities" mean each desktop is like a personal one |
| 02:44.36 | cor | just different wallpapers |
| 02:44.49 | cor | but the whole activities shebang has to be enabled to get that |
| 02:45.46 | oneforall | oh yeah but not just the wall paper . widgets etc . I see the clock and everything else I have isn'y in sticky mode to the other desktops. |
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| 02:46.34 | oneforall | plus no right click on a widget to send it to anthor desktop or sticky etc hmm |
| 02:46.34 | cor | you can set that |
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| 02:46.50 | cor | there's only 2 plasma settings, and that's one of them! |
| 02:46.59 | oneforall | lol yeah as strange as getting wallpaper to work for each desktop eh |
| 02:47.18 | cor | nah, none of that yet. I forsee lots of that sort of thing in future KDE, though |
| 02:48.04 | oneforall | ah crap I forgot and upgraded mesa and lost render. |
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| 02:48.22 | Miesco | Are there any good looking alpha projects? |
| 02:48.32 | oneforall | only need to upgrade it in my chroot |
| 02:48.38 | oneforall | brb |
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| 02:50.46 | Jucato | Miesco: is *KDE* making a webkit browser? if you mean an official, shipped by default, browser developed by kde.org, no. if you're asking if someone's making a kde-integrated webkit browser, then yes. see the rekonq project |
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| 02:54.34 | Miesco | Jucato: Is webkit better then KHTML? |
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| 02:56.06 | Sho_ | Miesco: both have their pros and cons |
| 02:56.58 | Miesco | Sho_: Is konqueror always going to use KHTML? |
| 02:57.29 | Sho_ | Miesco: Konqueror can already use WebKit via the WebKit KPart (experimental) |
| 02:57.57 | M0E_lnx | guys, how do I get KDM to show a picture for my user account? |
| 02:57.59 | Miesco | Sho_: Do you think konqueror is going to use webkit by default in the future? |
| 02:58.30 | Sho_ | Miesco: Not in the near-term. Longer-term, who knows. It's a subject of debate within KDE. |
| 02:58.55 | Miesco | Sho_: What apps do you develop? |
| 02:59.31 | Sho_ | Miesco: I maintain Konversation and Yakuake, but I have code all over the place |
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| 03:01.19 | panzi | can anyone tell my how the pagger applet receives mouse move events even when the mouse is NOT hovering the applet? |
| 03:01.40 | panzi | I just cant figure it out! |
| 03:02.14 | Sho_ | panzi: why do you think it does? |
| 03:02.26 | Jucato | panzi: I'm guessing you're rolling your mouse wheel over an empty space in the desktop |
| 03:02.32 | panzi | no |
| 03:02.45 | M0E_lnx | face icon guys.... anybody? |
| 03:02.49 | Jucato | then please specify |
| 03:02.59 | cor | advanced programming techniques? |
| 03:03.07 | panzi | when I drag a thumb window and move it to the edge so that you can still see it inside the pager applet but your mouse is already outside, you can still move the window! |
| 03:03.37 | panzi | I tried to implement something similar myself but it stops moving when the mouse pointer leaves the applet |
| 03:03.58 | oneforall | To change your desktop theme to "(Customized)", open the desktop Appearance Settings and select "(Customized)" from the droplist |
| 03:04.05 | cor | maybe the thumb is really receiving the events and passing them on |
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| 03:04.35 | Jucato | M0E_lnx: run System Settings as root (kdesu or kdesudo), Advanced -> Login Manager -> Users tab -> set User Image Source at the side to "User, System" |
| 03:04.57 | oneforall | where is that ? I find desktop theme details , desktop search . the in the general tab appearance |
| 03:05.05 | Jucato | M0E_lnx: then you'll have to change your accounts face icon in System Settings -> About Me |
| 03:05.18 | Jucato | (or you can set a global face icon in the Login Manager settings for all users) |
| 03:06.28 | cor | Aphorism: a concise and clever statement. |
| 03:06.46 | cor | Afterism: a concise and clever statement you only think of when it's too late. |
| 03:06.56 | cor | --- Linux fortunes |
| 03:06.59 | M0E_lnx | Jucato: I did, but KDM ignores it |
| 03:07.30 | cor | those afterisms just keep slamming me tonight! |
| 03:07.32 | panzi | cor: I'm staring at the source and can'T see how its done: http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/4.3/kdebase/workspace/plasma/applets/pager/pager.cpp?revision=1003830&view=markup |
| 03:07.48 | cor | that's one of the worst feelings ever |
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| 03:07.50 | panzi | the setAcceptsHoverEvents(true); doesn'T do it |
| 03:07.57 | M0E_lnx | ok.. nvm got it.. kdm settings |
| 03:08.06 | cor | I'm no C coder, but I can usually see how something is *done* |
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| 03:09.43 | panzi | I don't think this problem here is something that wouldn't be there when KDE/Qt would be written in C |
| 03:09.53 | panzi | the gobject system is also OOP |
| 03:09.55 | P4C0 | hello guys, I'm a bit into panic mode... I was playing with kde themes, and I choosed gtk style... it crashed and now I can't start it, I get QGtkStyle cannot be used together with GTK_Qt engine... how can I revert this? failesafe mode doesn't work :( |
| 03:10.04 | panzi | its just syntax |
| 03:10.06 | panzi | hmpf |
| 03:10.11 | panzi | how is it done? |
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| 03:10.24 | Sho_ | panzi: ask in #plasma |
| 03:10.33 | cor | somewhere in the underbelly, is the answer |
| 03:10.34 | panzi | Sho_: good idea |
| 03:10.42 | cor | and report back! |
| 03:10.59 | Sho_ | well this is technically off-topic here |
| 03:11.51 | P4C0 | I can't start kde :( please help! |
| 03:11.52 | cor | that seems odd |
| 03:12.01 | Sho_ | P4C0: there's a widgetStyle= line in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
| 03:12.08 | Sho_ | P4C0: change the value to oxygen |
| 03:12.19 | P4C0 | Sho_: thanks a lot, just a second :) |
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| 03:14.17 | P4C0 | Sho_: working now, thanks a lot! |
| 03:14.48 | oneforall | desktop Appearance Settings where is this ? |
| 03:15.27 | P4C0 | the reason why I tried to change it, it because QMessageBox::critical() doesn't display any icon, and it seems to be theme related, maybe this is a bit OT here, but does anyone knows if oxygen defines QMessageBox::Critical (::Information, ::Error) icons? |
| 03:15.27 | Sho_ | P4C0: np |
| 03:15.52 | Sho_ | P4C0: #oxygen or #kde-devel |
| 03:16.00 | P4C0 | Sho_: thanks |
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| 03:34.11 | oneforall | darn hal, policy crap . its as bad as win registry |
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| 06:18.47 | oneforall | Bad parameters so hekpfull :) |
| 06:20.50 | oneforall | hmm got the usb stick and camera to show up but its only in media in konq. Kde3 it showed up in that service tree too |
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| 06:27.21 | daemoen | hey guys, any progress on kdevelop for kde 4? |
| 06:29.01 | Jucato | http://www.kdevelop.org/ (see News) and #kdevelop |
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| 06:55.08 | oneforall | yeah another thing missing in konq tree in the right click is properties |
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| 06:57.05 | oneforall | Its onlt there for the main folders HOME Folde, Root Folder etc . but none of the subs |
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| 06:59.53 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
| 07:00.21 | oneforall | lots more missing from that right click. create folder file etc . everything thats in the panel right click is missing from the tree right click. |
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| 07:03.20 | oneforall | I see now dolphin if you add a url it'll open konq .But that still doesn't get my vote :) |
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| 07:14.15 | oneforall | each of the panels home folder, root folder, service etc do not have the x to close them any more. but I see dolphin has that too :( |
| 07:18.08 | oneforall | there a way om konq to adjust the search bar? The width si so darn small |
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| 07:24.43 | reavertm | dammit I have to say this - after using kde4 for so long time, I find kickoff very wrong approach in terms of usability |
| 07:25.30 | reavertm | I have no clue what usability test revealed that this is the most usable way of providing 'start' menu, but for me it just doesn't work |
| 07:25.43 | thiago_home | and there were usability tests |
| 07:25.50 | reavertm | it is nice and all, but requires so many clicking, scrolling to get anything from it |
| 07:26.04 | reavertm | I know there were, they were even mentioned in SUSE page Iirc |
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| 07:26.57 | reavertm | "the difference between the theory and the practice is that in theory there's no difference between the theory and the practice, but in practice there is" |
| 07:27.09 | reavertm | practice doesn't work best for me in this case |
| 07:28.56 | oneforall | yeah moving the iconsor widgets what ever theya re calles is still a pain in the but to do somethign so simple(thats was simple) |
| 07:28.58 | reavertm | and recent actions taken in trunk (further categorisation of .desktop entries in groups like in example with Internet or Games) will require even more clicks |
| 07:29.10 | oneforall | calles/called |
| 07:29.32 | reavertm | I suppose it's tradeoff between 'knowing what to click' and 'getting it clicked faster' |
| 07:29.56 | oneforall | the size bar is nice . the clocked used to be nice to change the time but now you have to go into setting to do that. but that might be on the list to add |
| 07:29.57 | Jucato | reavertm: if you already know the app exists, why click a lot when you can just type in the name or description of the app? or if it's a frequently used app, why not put it in the favorites tab? |
| 07:29.57 | reavertm | kickoff seems to be directed for the former (so new users) |
| 07:30.18 | reavertm | oh I use this of course |
| 07:31.08 | oneforall | because the comparison to spending the time to use run to type is as bad as all the clicking . it was there quick and simple now its cumbersome to do it |
| 07:32.01 | oneforall | yeah new users didn't get to see how much quicker ,simpler and faster the old way was |
| 07:32.02 | Jucato | right-click -> Switch to Classic Menu Style. Done |
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| 07:32.21 | reavertm | Jucato: that's not the way to solve the problem |
| 07:32.23 | szal | if you know a program's name you don't need to click it anyway, just enter (part of) its name in the search box & when it comes up press Return ;) |
| 07:32.49 | Jucato | reavertm: it's the way to solve the problem for people who want the old style |
| 07:33.04 | oneforall | yeah the menu for classic is allmost nack. still a few missing things. like right click on the app and right intot he menu editor etc. both don't have that now thou. |
| 07:33.32 | reavertm | ^ |
| 07:33.43 | oneforall | but the panel(kicker) is still a pain to move things around or just move the panel its self |
| 07:33.56 | oneforall | nack/back |
| 07:34.03 | Jucato | he's mentioning a problem that is present in *both* implementations. it has nothing to do with kickoff vs classic |
| 07:34.24 | Jucato | and now you're switching to a whole different "problem" |
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| 07:35.07 | oneforall | yeah classic menu now. But classic menu always had it . where this new turtle has never |
| 07:35.08 | reavertm | classic is too bare to be considered true alternative for kickoff |
| 07:35.22 | Jucato | too bare? |
| 07:36.22 | oneforall | bare as in no 95 style logo down the left side :) |
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| 07:36.32 | oneforall | ? |
| 07:36.34 | reavertm | mentioned tight click and of course logo :) |
| 07:36.40 | reavertm | right* |
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| 07:37.30 | Jucato | yes the right click is missing, I already said that. and it's for both menus. so it's a bug/missing feature. what logo? and those 2 "missing" things make it already "bare"? |
| 07:37.34 | reavertm | also 'show menu titles' could be on by default - (just found it) |
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| 07:38.05 | oneforall | the hover still works great for me. quick to move around like before. But as far as I know they are still working on bring back the missing things. I dunno about the logo thou. It could have the nice frame \s arounf it thou |
| 07:38.48 | oneforall | I still see they refuse to have konq show up in the menu you have to go find the desktop file and edit it too |
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| 07:39.36 | reavertm | (lancelot on the other hand always felt like bloated beyond imagination for my) |
| 07:39.39 | oneforall | I had that fixed too and it got over writen this upgrade too. just like changing the theme on me |
| 07:39.41 | reavertm | (for me) |
| 07:40.12 | reavertm | oneforall: ? konqueror is here.... |
| 07:40.19 | oneforall | reavertm lancelot is kinda in the middle |
| 07:40.23 | oneforall | yeah |
| 07:40.43 | Jucato | mixing up issues and topics again. making it sound like they're all intricately related |
| 07:40.46 | oneforall | but not on the menu you have to go edit the desktop file |
| 07:41.46 | reavertm | oneforall: what's up with konqueror? all fine here |
| 07:42.49 | reavertm | Jucato: oh come on, can I just make some general rant occasionally? :P |
| 07:43.00 | Jucato | wasn't referring to you |
| 07:43.12 | reavertm | and no, I have no constructive ideas for kickoff yet |
| 07:43.19 | oneforall | reavertm 1) its was never in the menu (konq in file manager mode not the browser setup) .the file is there but a line to make it not show in the menu at all. Like ti used to |
| 07:44.05 | reavertm | fine, dolphin is new default file manager |
| 07:46.01 | oneforall | 2) missing right click option from the tree panel 3) close buttons on those panels 4) the service panel doesn't show the usb sticks things mounted etc 5) quickshow isn't opening when I click on images like it does in kde and even dolphin(wich has most of what I've said here now) |
| 07:46.29 | oneforall | don't care I don't like dolphin and you can change that too thank goodness |
| 07:47.32 | oneforall | changes itt o because when you click on the notify for you isb etc it was opening thunar for me |
| 07:47.41 | oneforall | isb/usb |
| 07:48.13 | oneforall | does in kde/does in kde3 |
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| 07:52.27 | reavertm | I think I may start using thiago way of getting apps run - krunner |
| 07:52.46 | oneforall | there a channel dealing with the theme manager "Customize individual desktop theme items" . |
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| 07:54.23 | oneforall | I run lots for konsole but there are some you want to run from the menu because you don't rememebr even part of the name or any extra switches/options etc . |
| 07:54.26 | Jucato | only uses kickoff for the favorites tab and the leave tab. krunner for everything else |
| 07:54.29 | oneforall | for/from |
| 07:54.44 | Jucato | oh and recently used apps (sometimes,but not often) |
| 07:55.41 | oneforall | nice for drag drop to the desktop or kicker |
| 07:55.43 | oneforall | :) |
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| 08:02.04 | oneforall | To change your desktop theme to "(Customized)", open |
| 08:02.05 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.29 | oneforall | desktop Appearance Settings where is this ? All I find is Look & Feel appearance ,Desktop Theme Details , Desktop>Desktop Efects , Desktop Search |
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| 08:06.28 | dreamtheater | Can someone tell me where to set the transparency of the start menu (lancelot respectively)? |
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| 08:08.35 | Moult | dreamtheater: the plasma theme sets that |
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| 08:13.02 | dreamtheater | Moult: Do you know which part of the theme sets it? |
| 08:13.24 | Moult | dreamtheater: unfortunatley no i've never poked through the theme files. shouldn't be that hard to find it though |
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| 08:42.32 | soa2ii | Hi! I got KDE 4.3.0 installed on Gentoo but sometimes I got massive rendering errors (some applications for example miss redrawing parts of them and then the background shines through). I got an Intel 945 GM card in a first generation MacBook... any special tips for this combination? I found smth telling I should try rendering method XAA in my xorg.conf but then my screen will stay black and I see my EFI-screen again but it seems that my linux is still running |
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| 08:42.41 | sxe | hi |
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| 08:57.08 | dchmelik | i hope kde4 is going to be exactly like kde3 but better |
| 08:58.22 | dchmelik | i accidentally removed the taskbar because the new interface is very counter-intuitive... and i do not see a taskbar in the widget list... how do i get it back? |
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| 09:04.34 | sxe | dchmelik: rightclick to your desktop |
| 09:04.40 | sxe | unlock widgets |
| 09:04.47 | sxe | then you can add a new pannel |
| 09:05.17 | sxe | it not in the widget list its a seperate entry right under "add new widget" in the rightclick menu |
| 09:05.30 | dchmelik | i cannot 'click' because the keyboard shortcuts are set differently, and i opened console and got rid of its border and now cannot get to the desktop |
| 09:05.40 | dchmelik | i meant konsole |
| 09:06.22 | dchmelik | why would i want to add a new panel? it is already there--just not the taskbar |
| 09:06.36 | sxe | ah sry.. i get you wrong |
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| 09:07.06 | dchmelik | the panel is so much harder to configure that you can move the mouse around not knowing what you are doing |
| 09:07.08 | sxe | i don't know whats the name in englisch |
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| 09:07.52 | dchmelik | it looks like it is 'activity bar', but it does nothing. nothing. |
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| 09:08.40 | sxe | hm .. |
| 09:09.03 | dchmelik | it just says 'desktop' and does not show what programs are running |
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| 09:09.41 | sxe | i think you are not using the right widget |
| 09:09.48 | sxe | mine does not say anything about desktop |
| 09:10.59 | sxe | you see a "call sign" in it? |
| 09:11.09 | dchmelik | i removed it, let me add it again |
| 09:11.26 | dchmelik | no, it only says 'Desktop.' |
| 09:12.06 | sxe | you are talking about the widget that shows the little icons of programs like klipper/kopete and so on? |
| 09:12.08 | sxe | :) |
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| 09:12.25 | sxe | or the one that shows the open windows? |
| 09:12.30 | dchmelik | both |
| 09:12.38 | dchmelik | but for now the one that shows open windows |
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| 09:12.44 | dchmelik | i wish they would be the same though |
| 09:13.04 | sxe | i use not the default kde4 one.. |
| 09:13.08 | sxe | i use staks.. |
| 09:13.21 | dchmelik | staks? |
| 09:13.25 | dchmelik | is that in the widget list? |
| 09:13.28 | sxe | yes let me show you |
| 09:13.29 | sxe | mom |
| 09:13.42 | sxe | oh no .. |
| 09:13.48 | sxe | nop per default |
| 09:13.52 | sxe | you have to install it .. |
| 09:13.52 | dchmelik | i did not see it in there |
| 09:13.58 | sxe | what distribution are you using? |
| 09:14.02 | dchmelik | Slackware64 |
| 09:14.11 | sxe | hm.. |
| 09:14.29 | dchmelik | it looked like there was a taskbar but when i was trying to change the panel the mouse moved around and i had to close whatever that bar was |
| 09:14.34 | sxe | look if there exists a pakage for your distribution |
| 09:14.41 | dchmelik | the mouse took it right out of the panel |
| 09:14.52 | sxe | yes .. thats a bit strange |
| 09:14.56 | sxe | if in edit morde |
| 09:15.00 | sxe | you can klick on a widget |
| 09:15.04 | dchmelik | well it is how it is set up |
| 09:15.07 | dchmelik | it did that with the clock too |
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| 09:15.11 | sxe | and after taht its focused and you can move it |
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| 09:16.10 | dchmelik | where is the meny to change the keyboard shortcuts configuration now for kde4? |
| 09:16.13 | dchmelik | i mean menu? |
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| 09:16.29 | sxe | lets first search for your widget .. |
| 09:16.38 | dchmelik | i am searching |
| 09:16.50 | dchmelik | but i see nothing called staks... is it stasks? |
| 09:17.04 | sxe | in german ist called "Fensterleiste" so in english it shoeld be named like: Windowlist or something like that |
| 09:17.49 | dchmelik | i thought you said it was staks... and i do not see 'window list' in the widget menu either |
| 09:17.49 | sxe | staks is an other one.. but not the default one.. you have to install it if you want to use it |
| 09:18.24 | sxe | sry i don't know how the default one is called in english :( |
| 09:18.30 | dchmelik | i would not mind using the default one... i think it will take me a week or two or three setting it up as much as like i had kde3 |
| 09:19.01 | sxe | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/STasks?content=99739 |
| 09:19.07 | sxe | this is the one i'm talking about |
| 09:19.13 | sxe | but there is a fork of it i think |
| 09:19.20 | dchmelik | i would rather just use the default |
| 09:19.25 | sxe | but i use this old version |
| 09:19.29 | sxe | yes.. |
| 09:19.31 | dchmelik | i would compile kde4.3 before i try anything specific |
| 09:19.34 | sxe | it is there.. :) |
| 09:19.39 | sxe | look for it ^^ sry |
| 09:20.29 | dchmelik | i found it |
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| 09:20.42 | sxe | ah nice |
| 09:26.32 | dchmelik | where is the menu to change what OS the keyboard shortcuts work like? |
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| 09:28.09 | sxe | systemsettings > keyboard & mouse |
| 09:28.55 | dchmelik | i already looked there but i saw nothing like 'Windows' 'Mac' 'KDE' 'Unix' like kde3 had |
| 09:29.31 | dchmelik | the newer style of configuration with icons instead of a list is much harder for me and maybe i missed it |
| 09:29.49 | sxe | you can change the view of systemsettings |
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| 09:30.19 | sxe | on the top is an icon to change to listview |
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| 09:31.07 | dchmelik | i did not see any icon other than binoculars, which looks like it is for the search |
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| 09:32.32 | sxe | what kde4 version are you using? |
| 09:33.02 | dchmelik | 4.2.4 i think |
| 09:33.07 | sxe | ah ok .. |
| 09:33.18 | sxe | thats only possible in 4.3 |
| 09:33.33 | dchmelik | i do not see an 'about' in settings anymore so i do not know how to check that either... but i can check in the terminal |
| 09:33.38 | sxe | 4.3 is a huge improvement.. |
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| 09:34.28 | dchmelik | yeah, i just checked--it is 4.2.4 |
| 09:34.38 | Xilent | i can't move an new desktiop icon from one screen to the other |
| 09:34.42 | dchmelik | i will try to compile 4.3 as soon as i get 4.2.4 configured |
| 09:34.58 | sxe | dchmelik: i would prefer to install 4.3 directly.. |
| 09:35.04 | sxe | there are a lot of changes.. |
| 09:35.11 | dchmelik | well the packages are not made for Slackware64 |
| 09:35.12 | sxe | i think its simpler to switch directly |
| 09:35.26 | sxe | hm.. |
| 09:36.08 | Xilent | Version 4.2.4 (KDE 4.2.4) "release 2" |
| 09:36.12 | dchmelik | guis are probably the last thing they will make for current whenever they start updating things |
| 09:36.18 | sxe | Xilent: it doesn't work seamless here too |
| 09:36.28 | dchmelik | it is not that hard to compile anyway--i think |
| 09:36.41 | sxe | but it works.. :) |
| 09:36.58 | dchmelik | but did you mean i should try to find a package instead of compiling it? |
| 09:36.59 | sxe | Xilent: but i'm using kde 4.3 |
| 09:37.07 | sxe | hm.. |
| 09:37.21 | sxe | i prefer using pakages of big programs like kde .. |
| 09:37.36 | sxe | i would talke a lot of time to compile it by yourselfe |
| 09:37.40 | sxe | *it |
| 09:37.41 | dchmelik | it makes no difference to me as long as it works |
| 09:37.49 | dchmelik | i have a 20Gflops machine |
| 09:37.58 | sxe | i use precompiled pakaged.. |
| 09:38.05 | sxe | (i'm on archlinux) |
| 09:38.37 | sxe | i there are precompiled pakages play with them .. and if it works you can make your own ones.. |
| 09:38.42 | sxe | i there are precompiled pakages play with them .. and if it works you can make your own ones.. :) |
| 09:38.45 | sxe | wups |
| 09:38.56 | dchmelik | you mean the arch ones? they might work, but i think the package system is different |
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| 09:39.14 | sxe | no i mean pakages for your distribution |
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| 09:39.26 | geo27 | Hello ! Could someone explain me why when I want to play a midi file from frescobaldi with my laptop it launches timidity without any interface, and why doing the same thing on my laptop launches timidity with an interface (it corresponds to -ia command line parameter) ? Both machines were installed with same versions of timidity and frescobaldi (gentoo machines). |
| 09:39.28 | sxe | maybe there is a repository .. |
| 09:39.30 | dchmelik | well gui ones will probably not be out for weeks, as i said |
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| 09:39.53 | jibadeeha | what is a good kde 4 distribution |
| 09:40.03 | dchmelik | 3.4 ;) |
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| 09:40.21 | sxe | jibadeeha: depends on your linux skill i think :) |
| 09:40.36 | sxe | good beginner distributions are suse and kubuntu ( suse more i think) |
| 09:40.43 | sxe | but i like archlinux |
| 09:41.02 | jibadeeha | thanks sxe will try suse |
| 09:41.29 | sxe | np |
| 09:41.43 | homy | Hi! In dolphin "Details" View Mode the Size only displays the number of items for folders. Can I set it to display the actual folder Size (that is, total size of its contents)? |
| 09:42.25 | sxe | homy.. i don't think so .. but i'm not sure |
| 09:43.11 | homy | Maybe its just not enabled by default because of the extra overhead, but I didn't find any setting in dolphins settings. |
| 09:43.32 | sxe | yes.. that could be a huge overhead.. :) |
| 09:43.40 | sxe | sry i don't know if thats possible |
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| 09:49.17 | dchmelik | i enabled transluceny but it is not working... but that is not as important as some other things |
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| 09:52.29 | Xilent | sxe, i can move old icons from one screen to the other, but new icons not |
| 09:52.50 | Xilent | new icon = kmenu, right klick add to workspace |
| 09:52.52 | sxe | how do you create the new icons? |
| 09:52.58 | sxe | ah |
| 09:53.12 | sxe | sry i'm using kde 4.3 |
| 09:53.17 | sxe | i cannot help you with that |
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| 09:53.23 | Xilent | never mind |
| 09:53.46 | Xilent | i'm trying to make the new icon to an old one ;-) |
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| 09:53.53 | sxe | :) |
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| 10:00.10 | Xilent | restarting kde has not fixed the prob, but dropping the icon on the second screen worked now |
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| 10:42.36 | malic | hi! my wlan isnt working in kde 4.3. Do i need the knetworkmanager ? |
| 10:43.00 | malic | or is the widget enough |
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| 10:48.44 | kriko | sometimes when I login into kde cpu monitor plasmoid is dead - no cpus detected. What could be wrong? |
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| 10:51.22 | Guest23222 | I am facing issues with sound card ! I am using sabayon4 kde |
| 10:51.42 | pinotree | Guest23222: → #sabayon |
| 10:51.43 | Guest23222 | no audio at all from day 1 |
| 10:51.54 | kriko | pulseaudio? |
| 10:51.54 | MadGirl | pulseaudio is, like, being really weird right now for a lot of people. |
| 10:52.18 | Guest23222 | so this is not the right channel for help ? |
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| 10:58.50 | homy | How can I open isos and look at the contents? I tried opening it with ark, but it doesn't know that archive type. |
| 10:59.26 | gjulian | mount ISOFILE MOUNTPOINT -t iso9660 |
| 10:59.54 | gjulian | run as root |
| 11:01.04 | homy | thanks |
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| 11:10.01 | carl- | hmmm .. i just switched to kde .. after having used gnome for a long time .. and im impressed .. though i use conky and it seems the transperance of conky disappeared so now its a bi black ugly blob in the upper corner |
| 11:10.52 | carl- | also i wonder .. cause i use gnote ( note taking application ) in gnome .. like sitting on the panel .. what would be its equal in kde ?? |
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| 11:22.25 | nreau | carl-: there is a note plasmoid I think |
| 11:22.43 | nreau | carl-: check the plasmoid (widgets) list |
| 11:22.53 | carl- | k k will do .. thanks |
| 11:24.17 | nreau | carl-: and also knotes I think |
| 11:25.46 | carl- | aha .. another thing .. where do i set keyboard shortcut to switch virtual desktop .. in gnome this use to be ctrl + alt + > | < |
| 11:28.47 | nreau | have you checked the system settings? |
| 11:28.54 | Bou | should be there |
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| 11:32.28 | Bugson | guys I have a problem with dvb on kaffeine, I don't have any audio until I'll pause the stream and start it back, this mean that audio works only when timeshift is on, is there some way to solve it? |
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| 11:56.48 | carl- | and well anabling "desktop effects" (kwin) seems really slow .. like the windows update slow i have tried using compiz and well as this is not lifechanging though it seems kwin is very sluggish compared to what i experienced on compiz |
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| 11:58.40 | Walex | carl-: probably your card does RENDER or Composite slowly, or the driver does not support acceleratio well. |
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| 11:59.14 | carl- | Walex: is this true even if it works very well in compiz ?? |
| 11:59.15 | Walex | carl-: Compiz and KWin use different aspects of the acceleration; some bits may be acelerated or not. |
| 11:59.23 | carl- | Walex: aah k k |
| 11:59.58 | carl- | Walex: so no "tweeking" available to fix that then . .. just my card not up to date i guess .. nvidia 6600 |
| 12:00.30 | Walex | carl-: for example it used to be that KDE antialiasing was very slow with the binary nVidia driver because KDE used a specific feature that the nVidia driver implemented badly. |
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| 12:01.40 | carl- | Walex: i c .. hmm well then maybe one should not try and combine kwin and nvidia then :) |
| 12:01.43 | Walex | carl-: no, virtualy any semi-recent card, including a 6600, has the acceleration to do effects and OpenGL decently, it is just an issue of which particular detail is optimnized. |
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| 12:02.46 | Walex | carl-: in general the nVidia binary driver does not support "effects" well, but that depends a lot on which particular driver version, which version of Compiz/KWIn and which rendering strategy is use. |
| 12:03.04 | carl- | Walex: well . so you say there is not much i can try .. as said effects or not wont change my world in any way .. i wont use them if they cripple me in any way |
| 12:03.04 | lmurray | would really like to know the source of Walex's information |
| 12:03.13 | lmurray | I'm running nVidia and get well over 500fps in KWin |
| 12:03.15 | lmurray | 7800GT |
| 12:03.18 | Walex | carl-: I think that if you do a web search you will find several recommedations on which particular combination of settings is best. |
| 12:04.03 | Walex | lmurray: 3D openGL has nothing to do with KWin. And it works pretty well. It is things like AIGLX or RENDER/Composite that are a mess. |
| 12:04.22 | carl- | Walex: thanks .. any info on the nouveau driver how are they coming along ?? |
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| 12:07.23 | Walex | carl-: haven't been folowing that a lot -- it workish. but not quite ready yet. |
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| 12:11.59 | Walex | carl-: note the number of warnings in here: ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/190.25/README/chapter-23.html |
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| 12:55.07 | helmut | Hi. can you help me with a completely broken kde (4.3 after upgrade from 4.2)? in particular it broke my akonadi database. |
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| 12:57.22 | helmut | mysql.err tells me it cannot open mysql.db. |
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| 12:58.28 | helmut | and can I somehow get rid of these focus-stealing windows with a moving blue box inside? |
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| 13:12.27 | sinthetek | for some reason k3b keeps saying to insert a writable medium though cdrecord can write to the same disks fine |
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| 13:13.39 | sinthetek | i do not have a full kde install though. do you think perhaps that might be a factor? i never had problems with older versions of k3b |
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| 13:13.55 | sinthetek | with similar setup |
| 13:13.56 | sinthetek | * |
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| 13:17.35 | schafi | I'm missing a main feature o kde 4.3 here: how can I sync akonadi with google-calendar? I read that it is possible but can't find any options here |
| 13:18.09 | helmut | you can start akonadi? cool. my setup broke completely after upgrading |
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| 13:35.15 | annma | helmut: check with your distro that you installed all required mysql |
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| 13:35.27 | helmut | annma: it worked with 4.2 |
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| 13:35.50 | annma | so it's an upgrade bug |
| 13:35.58 | annma | happens |
| 13:36.43 | helmut | :-( |
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| 14:00.04 | plovs | hi guys! i forgot the name of an app that you can use to stitch 3 screenshots together at a slight angle and with a dropshadow, i *think* it was a qt app |
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| 14:01.34 | Jucato | screenie |
| 14:01.41 | Jucato | it is a qt app |
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| 14:12.10 | gregueuh | hi ! |
| 14:12.47 | gregueuh | I'm trying to develop an akonadi resource which uses KIO to perform some tasks, but having some issues : is this the right place to ask ? |
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| 14:15.00 | Sput | mzanetti: there was a commit to kdelirc recently "fix profiles"… but now both kdelirc and kscd want to install kscd.profile.xml to $prefix/share/profiles |
| 14:16.22 | Sput | mzanetti: which one should go? |
| 14:16.29 | Jucato | gregueuh: #akonadi might bembetter |
| 14:17.16 | Sput | mzanetti: also, is it correct that kdelirc installs stuff like remotes profiles to a global namespace like $prefix/share/apps rather than $prefix/share/apps/kdelirc or something? |
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| 14:18.35 | gregueuh | Jucato: ok, thanks |
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| 14:22.48 | plovs | Jucato, thanks! that was it, i have been looking for an hour .... duh screenie ... |
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| 14:23.56 | stef_204 | guys is libkdecore4 a file to upgrade to KDE4? |
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| 14:30.27 | carl- | hmm where do i configure keyboard shortcuts to commands .. like start dolphin on "win + button" or the like |
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| 14:41.07 | helmut | can someone tell me how to disable akonadi? |
| 14:41.19 | helmut | (permanently) |
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| 14:43.24 | helmut | it is so fucked up that it is simply unbearable. |
| 14:43.54 | helmut | I'll just forget about displaying birthdays in korganizer and be happy if the rest just works. |
| 14:44.06 | helmut | (like it did in 4.2) |
| 14:45.33 | Jucato | helmut: what's the problem about displaying birthdays? |
| 14:45.58 | helmut | they are not displayed. |
| 14:46.10 | helmut | that functionality was lost after upgrading from 4.1 to 4.2 |
| 14:46.23 | helmut | now I upgraded to 4.3 and akonadi got fucked up |
| 14:46.46 | Jucato | I've had them since 4.1 (or maybe 4.2). but they're here. even with akonadi (no f* up there) |
| 14:47.08 | helmut | I migrated my data to akonadi because I was told that displaying birthdays is no longer supported without akonadi in 4.2. |
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| 14:47.36 | Jucato | I only migrated my data to akonadi in 4.3. or rather, it did that for me. |
| 14:47.50 | Jucato | and I stlll have birthdays |
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| 14:49.30 | pusling | "can someone please tell me how I disable the storage of korganizer and kaddressbook?" |
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| 14:50.08 | helmut | pusling: they still support vcf and ical. |
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| 14:51.08 | helmut | Jucato: could you help me get to a usable state? |
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| 14:51.29 | helmut | Jucato: that means starting kaddressbook and korganizer without progress bars and error messages. |
| 14:51.42 | Jucato | helmut: that part I don't know :) |
| 14:51.48 | helmut | Jucato: it tries and fails twice to start akonadi. |
| 14:51.51 | Jucato | (I always get one from korganizer) |
| 14:52.20 | helmut | the error dialog shows that mysqld could not be started |
| 14:52.36 | helmut | and the mysql.err indicates that some mysql.db file is expected, but not found. |
| 14:52.43 | pusling | helmut: why can't you get your mysql started ? |
| 14:52.50 | Jucato | ah. not those errors. sorry |
| 14:53.14 | alexex | Can anybody tell me whats going on with the networkmanager plasmoid? its really hard to get reliable information about it, and everytime i tried to compile it, i just see "network management is changing" after starting? |
| 14:53.22 | helmut | pusling: it lacks a mysql.db file |
| 14:54.00 | helmut | pusling: according to mysql.err in ~/.local/share/aknodai/db_data |
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| 14:54.28 | pusling | it should create that. or did you mess with the permissions ? |
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| 14:57.20 | helmut | pusling: I messed with non-written dependencies. |
| 14:57.31 | helmut | pusling: maybe that's not all I messed with. |
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| 15:01.31 | pusling | helmut: can your user write into that directory ? |
| 15:02.20 | helmut | pusling: yes. the problem was different. |
| 15:02.51 | helmut | pusling: I somehow forgot to upgrade akonadi-server (I can only do upgrades in small blocks due to disk space issues %-). |
| 15:03.06 | helmut | pusling: and it was not pulled in by some kde-package as versioned dependency. |
| 15:04.19 | pusling | helmut: please file a bug against akonadi-server saying it should have a strict = dependency on libakonadiprivate1 |
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| 15:05.10 | helmut | pusling: ok. should the integration of kaddressbook birthdays in korganizer work by now? |
| 15:05.20 | pusling | no clues. |
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| 15:09.27 | Jucato | "should work" on your system? not sure (considering you have bigger issues). but it's definitely working, at least for me |
| 15:11.09 | helmut | ok. my problems got sorted out. |
| 15:11.22 | helmut | three problems involved: |
| 15:11.43 | helmut | 1) missing versioned dependency on akonadi-server caused bad things to happen |
| 15:12.19 | helmut | 2) some faq entry advised on shrinking innodb_log_file_size in mysqld.conf which caused other trouble |
| 15:12.29 | helmut | 3) missing package kdepim-kresources for birthday integration |
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| 15:20.56 | sxe | i cannot find anything.. :( |
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| 15:26.26 | NJL | is there any good reason that the tab plugin for kate disappears everytime I restart kate? |
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| 15:31.20 | lemma | NJL: no :-) |
| 15:32.15 | MTGap | Is there anyway for me to resize an image from dolphin. It has the ability to convert it. Anything for resizing |
| 15:35.19 | sputnick | hi there. Is it possible to set dolphin & konqueror to open file management in "detail" mode instead of "icon" mode by default ? |
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| 15:41.39 | sobczyk | hi, since friday I get some strange errors with kde and X server, in messages I noticed "BUG using smp_processor_id() in preemptible [000000] code /(some number)" how can I fix it? Since I got this message kdm lost it's settings and I have no bar on the bottom, and a default wallpaper |
| 15:42.05 | sobczyk | taht should be X/(some number) |
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| 15:49.51 | eracc | Hi all, where does kmail save an e-mail one is writing when a crash occurs? |
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| 15:52.15 | eracc | Oh yes, distribution = Mandriva 2009.1, kmail version = 1.9.10 from KDE 3.5.10. |
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| 15:53.41 | MTGap_ | check .kde/share/apps/kmail/autosave |
| 15:53.46 | MTGap_ | at least I believe it |
| 15:53.53 | MTGap_ | * 's that way in 4.3 |
| 15:54.00 | MTGap_ | not sure about 3.5 |
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| 15:57.34 | MTGap_ | in kopete or something? |
| 15:58.33 | glen | in kopete yes |
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| 16:09.09 | eracc | MTGap_, thank you. That is it. |
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| 16:10.16 | userval | how can i see the channels list |
| 16:10.18 | userval | ? |
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| 16:11.06 | MTGap_ | your welcome glad I could help |
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| 16:22.19 | MTGap_ | Can anyone explain to me why kde isn't using my icon theme's status icons or emblems? |
| 16:22.22 | sputnick | :q |
| 16:22.24 | MTGap_ | Is there a cache somewhere |
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| 16:24.06 | sputnick | MTGap_: ls -ld ~/.kde*/cache* |
| 16:24.16 | userval | how i intall audio and video drivers in fedora 11 |
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| 16:26.25 | MTGap_ | yeah but is that holding the icons.. I can easily change icons under actions etc... everything besides emblems and status |
| 16:26.42 | MTGap_ | it keeps using oxygen's instead.. my only fix for that is writing over oxygen's theme |
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| 16:27.54 | sputnick | MTGap_: ls /usr/share/icons/ |
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| 16:29.18 | MTGap_ | yeah well using system settings to remove the theme should clear it all out |
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| 16:42.53 | _Qwerty_ | in kmail, how can I forward a mail with picture in it? I tried but the picture were removed from the forwarded mail? |
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| 16:44.03 | annma | did you attach it? |
| 16:45.01 | _Qwerty_ | no it was already in the mail i received and wanted to forward |
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| 16:46.18 | hanno | Hi, I'm with kmail, kde 4.3.0, all ssl connections fail |
| 16:46.33 | hanno | neither the error message nor the console produces any useful error message |
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| 16:47.22 | _Qwerty_ | annma: I forwarded a funny mail from work to my home e-mail address, and when I was about to forward it to my friends I couldent because the picture where removed |
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| 16:48.23 | annma | what did kmail say? |
| 16:49.39 | hanno | annma, something about ssl negotiation failed |
| 16:49.51 | hanno | on two different hosts, so it's most likely a client problem |
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| 16:50.05 | cor | in kate, I set the backup prefix to ~/Documents/path/backup/folder but nothing happens? are only characters allowed, not paths?? |
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| 16:52.40 | _Qwerty_ | actually I think my kmail treats mail as non html, and thats perhaps why the images was lost |
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| 16:53.56 | annma | might be _Qwerty_ |
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| 16:55.54 | sobczyk | hi how can I reset main kde config? |
| 16:56.07 | annma | why do you wantthat? |
| 16:56.12 | sobczyk | After logging in I don't have menu with start button |
| 16:56.23 | annma | you mean a panel? |
| 16:56.30 | sobczyk | I lost wallpaper and probably more |
| 16:56.33 | annma | you just upgraded? |
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| 16:56.53 | sobczyk | no, I got some bugs with kernel X and fglrx |
| 16:57.09 | sobczyk | X crashed i that probably wiped some config |
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| 16:57.33 | sobczyk | now the bottom bar does not start |
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| 16:58.18 | sobczyk | is there a way to fix it? |
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| 16:59.16 | annma | in konsole type |
| 16:59.26 | annma | kde4-config --localprefix |
| 16:59.29 | annma | return |
| 16:59.33 | annma | paste output please |
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| 16:59.45 | veritos | What is the relationship of Guidance and PowerDevil? Do they work together somehow? |
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| 17:00.12 | sobczyk | as it supposed to be |
| 17:00.19 | sobczyk | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:00.36 | annma | it can be anything sobczyk |
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| 17:00.53 | annma | so if you want to reset your plasma settings you will log out |
| 17:01.18 | annma | then you backup all /home/sobczyk/.kde4/share/config/plasma* files |
| 17:01.24 | annma | then you log in again |
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| 17:07.04 | sobczyk | worked like a charm |
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| 17:07.39 | sobczyk | I'll put most of the things in .kde4 in a git repo to not loose it again |
| 17:08.13 | annma | :) |
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| 17:22.03 | jim_chat | Currently, KDE 4.3 applications using Phonon produce sound with cracking or popping. Applications which use a back-end directly (xine) work fine. Any suggestions as to what I could do to fix this? |
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| 17:27.07 | junkDawgie | jim_chat: if have pulseaudio you can investigate workarounds related to that subsystem, i have the same situation. |
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| 17:29.29 | jim_chat | junkDawgie, I've removed pulse from my system for the high crime of introducing more problems than solving. |
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| 17:29.51 | veritos | junkDawgie, jim_chat, Doesn't ALSA have dmix on by default now? |
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| 17:30.45 | jim_chat | veritos, does for my distro |
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| 17:31.54 | junkDawgie | this seems to especially noticiable on creative audigy cards with alsa drivers on marginal cpus |
| 17:32.01 | veritos | jim_chat, yeah, i think it's enabled upstream now, and only the ones that come with pulse would disable it (read: Ubuntu) |
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| 17:35.16 | junkDawgie | jim_chat: did you install esound instead? |
| 17:35.39 | cor | paste 3: has anyone come across a uTorrent > kTorrent RSS filter converter? |
| 17:35.42 | cor | just curious |
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| 17:39.40 | jim_chat | junkDawgie, nope |
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| 17:47.34 | jim_chat | The really annoying thing is that because all kde 4 uses phonon all kde 4 apps with sound are broken. They worked fine before when they supported the backends directly (xine, gstreamer, etc) and when they didn't "just work" you could configure the how the application used the backend. I just don't understand these backward leaps we Linux folk keep taking with audio. |
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| 17:49.04 | veritos | Is there a reason why I should even have guidance-power-manager installed? |
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| 17:51.05 | veritos | (I've got PowerDevil) |
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| 18:19.33 | bernie | or kde edu in general |
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| 18:29.04 | freinhard | oneforall: depends on what it should be capable of. |
| 18:29.44 | oneforall | running it :) |
| 18:29.48 | oneforall | using it |
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| 18:31.04 | oneforall | acuually I might need a kernel patch for this Bus 005 Device 036: ID 046d:0870 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express .. |
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| 18:32.23 | freinhard | oneforall: i guess you know that your answer doesn't contain any information to narrow down what you want to do with a "webcam tool" |
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| 18:34.51 | oneforall | mainly one to test it . I know there is xawtv . but is there anything better |
| 18:35.19 | ajavid | its not a tumor |
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| 18:36.41 | freinhard | oneforall: just use kopete |
| 18:36.53 | carl- | hmm anyone know of problems with msn in kopete .. it works for a while and then all of a sudden loose contact |
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| 18:37.39 | carl- | just startet using kde .. and in gnome i have never any problems with pidgin .. although the same settings and all |
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| 18:48.50 | Luyt | (kde3) How can I disable Konqueror's status bar? |
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| 19:00.48 | reavertm | http://www.semanticdesktop.org/ontologies/ if one writes strigianalyzer, just those ontologies from that page can be used? |
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| 19:33.04 | sobczyk | are there any kde4 log files? |
| 19:33.28 | sobczyk | I lost panel again and after logout/login I had clean settings |
| 19:33.29 | MoDaX | sobczyk: ~/.xsession-errors or similar |
| 19:34.41 | annma | sobczyk: I thought it worked previously |
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| 19:35.23 | sobczyk | It works now, but oonly the settings were lost |
| 19:35.36 | annma | why? |
| 19:35.39 | sobczyk | the previous time the bar did not show up at all |
| 19:36.49 | sobczyk | hmm i deleted some files from kmail directory (.kde4/share/apps/kmail/) and bar disappeared |
| 19:39.06 | jim_chat | Xine+Phonon = cracking and popping. Applications that use Xine by itself are fine. Gstreamer+Phonon seems to works fine. Resolution: After much ado use gstreamer and conclude that Phonon doesn't succeed in letting one chose between multiple back-ends :D |
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| 19:49.48 | Riddell | ** in 10 minutes there will be a tutorial in writing Plasmoids in Python in #ubuntu-classroom |
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| 19:54.52 | rdieter | jim_chat: I can switch between phonon backends, do it all the time. systemsettings -> multimedia (backend tab) |
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| 20:00.36 | jim_chat | rdieter, you've missed my joke. I can switch between backends but it is futile because only the gstreamer one works with phonon (at lest on my system). Thus I only have one option using a system which is supposed to provide more than one option :D |
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| 20:01.23 | rdieter | ok, just wanted to clear up any possible misconception (fwiw, both backends work ok for me, at least no crackling) |
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| 20:03.25 | duvnell | what window manager normally runs under KDE? |
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| 20:03.36 | jim_chat | kwin |
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| 20:13.06 | Aison | hello, is there a special channel for kde devel versions? |
| 20:14.02 | jim_chat | rdieter, just curious what distribution do you use? |
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| 20:14.30 | rdieter | jim_chat: fedora (11) |
| 20:15.20 | Aison | i'm trying to compile pykde4, but it allways fails because of sip or akonadi sip, no idea |
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| 20:18.55 | eqisow | So, according to my googling it's not recommended to run xine with pulseaudio, but when pulse is removed/disabled I have no sound with xine. gstreamer sound works, but it has issues. OS is Fedora 11 |
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| 20:19.38 | jim_chat | rdieter, ok thanks. I might try to duplicate my problems on a live cd with my hardware to see if its distribution specific or just me. |
| 20:20.48 | rdieter | jim_chat: pulseaudio + alsa/driver bugs may have something to do with it too |
| 20:22.15 | jim_chat | rdieter, I'm not using pulse at the moment, just alsa |
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| 20:25.44 | jim_chat | eqisow, have you tried removing/renaming the xine configuration file associated with your application? |
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| 20:36.07 | ChemBro | does anyone know, how I can get my mails in kmail sorted in some folders like "march" "april" "may" ... and so on? |
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| 20:38.06 | jipang_menjerit | hi |
| 20:38.14 | jipang_menjerit | anybody here? |
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| 20:50.44 | eqisow | Having some sound issues, using gstreamer/alsa: Amarok is locking the sound device so that other audio doesn't work. Additionally, if non KDE apps (flash, whatever) are using sound, amarok has no sound. However, sound mixing seems to be working because I can hear sound from flash and speaker-test at the same time. Any ideas? |
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| 20:51.23 | eqisow | xine/alsa* sorry |
| 20:51.24 | thiago_home | configure your alsa for dmix |
| 20:51.26 | thiago_home | ah, xine |
| 20:51.28 | thiago_home | then no game |
| 20:51.30 | thiago_home | use gstreamer |
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| 20:51.46 | eqisow | gstreamer has no sound at all :/ |
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| 20:52.39 | ChemBro | then use mplayer backend |
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| 20:52.42 | MTGap | does anyone know what icon kopete uses for the 'set status' with the user |
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| 20:53.02 | MTGap | I'm trying to change but can't find what icon it's using |
| 20:53.11 | eqisow | ChemBro: Fedora doesn't seem to provide a mplayer backend for Phonon |
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| 20:54.24 | sputnick | hi there |
| 20:54.49 | cb400f | hm.. there's a usuable mplayer phonon backend? |
| 20:55.25 | sputnick | is it possible to set dolphin and konqueror with the "details" view instead of "icon" view by default ? |
| 20:55.59 | sputnick | maybe I need to modify sources ? |
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| 20:56.30 | sputnick | or fill a feature request... |
| 20:56.41 | sputnick | or both ;) |
| 20:57.07 | MTGap | well have you taken a look at settings>general |
| 20:57.20 | MTGap | there is an option for use common view properties for all folders |
| 20:57.23 | MTGap | that might help you |
| 20:57.49 | MTGap | yeah just tried it, it works |
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| 21:04.43 | sputnick | MTGap: which item in settings>general ? |
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| 21:05.03 | sputnick | theres 17 items |
| 21:05.31 | MTGap | umm let me pull it up again |
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| 21:05.54 | MTGap | ok Settings>Configure Dolphin>General |
| 21:06.15 | MTGap | Then the first tab (Behavior) there is View Properties |
| 21:06.40 | MTGap | With two radio buttons, you'll want to have Use common view properties for all folders |
| 21:06.45 | MTGap | selected. |
| 21:07.09 | MTGap | do you see that? |
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| 21:10.56 | sputnick | MTGap: I think it's the first button : http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/8278/snapshot1251753017.png |
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| 21:12.46 | MTGap | uh well I used the second option, and I switched it the view to details and then closed it, and it opened in details and was details everywhere. Was that not what you wanted? |
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| 21:14.24 | sputnick | LC_ALL=C /usr/bin/dolphin : http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/6752/snapshot1251753228.png |
| 21:14.50 | sputnick | ok, thanks MTGap |
| 21:15.21 | MTGap | your welcome |
| 21:15.59 | sputnick | MTGap: where did you switch ? |
| 21:16.13 | MTGap | huh? |
| 21:16.19 | sputnick | in dolphin view menu ? |
| 21:16.59 | MTGap | uh yeah the option under View>View Mode>Details |
| 21:17.23 | sputnick | ok, sounds right... thanks again |
| 21:17.39 | MTGap | and then if you have the setting for use Use common view properties for all folders, it should always be details |
| 21:21.39 | sputnick | yeah, works for both dolphin & konqueror ^^ |
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| 21:25.30 | eqisow | KDE4.3 with alsa/xine on F11 mixing issues: flash/speaker-test works, but amarok blocks both speaker-test and flash and speaker-test/flash both block amarok |
| 21:25.40 | eqisow | and gstreamer gives no sound at all, period |
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| 21:41.04 | jekkt | hi ho i use kde 4 may question is can i install animated desktop? |
| 21:41.31 | jekkt | when yes which keywords i should use to find more in google |
| 21:41.59 | ghostcube | the desktop effects ? |
| 21:42.11 | jekkt | yes animate my wallpaper |
| 21:42.23 | ghostcube | uhm |
| 21:42.36 | jekkt | like windows vista can do:) |
| 21:42.43 | ghostcube | bah |
| 21:43.07 | jekkt | i would put a falling water on my wallpaper:) |
| 21:43.08 | ghostcube | you can try systemsettings >> desktop >> |
| 21:43.24 | jekkt | i use all these function:> |
| 21:43.25 | ghostcube | and there the effects section go to all effects |
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| 21:43.34 | jekkt | yes and after this? |
| 21:43.55 | ghostcube | hmmm |
| 21:43.59 | ghostcube | try compiz |
| 21:44.01 | ghostcube | :D |
| 21:44.07 | jekkt | what is this? |
| 21:44.07 | MadGirl | this is, like, day two of non sequitors |
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| 21:45.44 | ghostcube | http://picpaste.com/pics/Bildschirmfoto11.1251755130.jpeg |
| 21:45.49 | jekkt | ghostcube, you know what i mean something like screensaver but on real wallpaper:) which animate the whole time |
| 21:46.11 | ghostcube | hmm you can put an movie player to backround with compiz |
| 21:46.18 | ghostcube | to let it seem its inside the desktop |
| 21:46.21 | ghostcube | by adding rules |
| 21:46.53 | jekkt | semms to be an future projekt:> |
| 21:47.02 | ghostcube | #compiz |
| 21:47.10 | carpii | sounds like something youd enjoy for 5 mins, then turn it off and get sick of it ;) |
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| 21:51.14 | walker_ | How do I set up multiple monitors with a single desktop? |
| 21:51.23 | walker_ | I have a laptop screen, then a desktop LCD screen. |
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| 21:53.56 | walker_ | I've been through the Display settings and it says that I don't have the single desktop configured |
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| 21:56.09 | Khas | Whenever I enter a local file path in konqueror, I get an error message saying 'malformed URL' but then it goes there anyway. Have I messed something up? |
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| 21:58.49 | maddslacker | I use konqueror to log into a java application at work, and somehow it has decided to try to open with an association to wine, which then fails. as a different user it opens correctly in java |
| 21:59.05 | maddslacker | where in kde can I change the reference back to java for this site/app? |
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| 22:02.07 | maddslacker | as an aside, i even tried renaming my /kde folder and created a fresh one and still had the same issue |
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| 22:09.38 | honschu | Hi, is it somehow possible that a window don't recieve key/mouse events so that the window below gets it? I ask because I just want to show a window. |
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| 22:11.58 | Khas | honschu: I think what you want is focus follows mouse. Settings -> Window Behaviour -> Window Behaviour -> Focus -> Policy = "Focus Follows Mouse" |
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| 22:12.32 | Khas | Any window under your mouse will have the focus of input. |
| 22:13.48 | duvnell | how can I programatically tell if the users desktop is locked? |
| 22:14.11 | duvnell | xdg-screensaver can be used to lock the desktop programmatically, but not tell if it's already locked |
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| 22:23.06 | MTGap | Does anyone know where this icon is located: the ooo one: http://imgur.com/YUXCV.png I don't want to change it I just want to use it. |
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| 22:28.54 | harry_ | is there a way for kmail to 'force' a date/time stamp when the email itself does not contain one? |
| 22:31.21 | honschu | Khas: No, I want that the window below the window gets the key/mouse-events. |
| 22:32.09 | Khas | honschu: I don't think that's possible. |
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| 22:33.14 | honschu | Khas: The windowmanager could possible pass the event to another window - but maybe there is a X function or something that prevents the window from getting mouse/button events. |
| 22:34.10 | Khas | X needs some way to know which window to pass stuff to. That is done by focus. Focus is determined by mouse, either by clicking on the window you want to focus, which raises it as well, or by simply following the position of the mouse. |
| 22:34.23 | Khas | It takes the window that is topmost under the cursor. |
| 22:34.33 | Khas | This is why I think it is not possible. |
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| 22:35.53 | Timslin | why do i have the kde "K" showing as the apllication launcher icon? |
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| 22:42.57 | oneforall | there no mouse button control to turn on the cube ? |
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| 22:50.04 | Khas | oneforall: you can set a desktop corner to bring it up? |
| 22:50.41 | oneforall | hmm no idea what that is . like a desktop icon ? |
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| 22:55.30 | sputnick | I have a bug with kdemod4.0.0, when I start ksnapshot with a dual screen, the cursor disepear on the right screen... does I need to fill a report bug on kdemod or kde bug tracker ? |
| 22:55.59 | Khas | oneforall: kde 4, yes? |
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| 22:58.21 | oneforall | yup |
| 22:59.36 | Khas | Settings -> Desktop -> Screen Edges |
| 22:59.55 | Khas | Select one of the edges for Desktop Cube - Cube |
| 23:00.04 | Khas | Then whenever you move your mouse to that corner, the cube will show. |
| 23:00.16 | Khas | You can left-click-and-drag round the cube, and right click on a face to go to that face. |
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| 23:02.20 | oneforall | yeah the left click right click I know. compfusion and the other could do it with middle click on the desktop |
| 23:02.34 | marcosRz | guys |
| 23:02.41 | marcosRz | how do I change the kde folder colors? |
| 23:02.57 | oneforall | all i see is disable , only when moving windows and Always enabled |
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| 23:03.51 | oneforall | ah I see the list now when you pick the little square on the monitor picture |
| 23:04.09 | oneforall | I was just leaving it as the tope left the first time. |
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| 23:04.16 | Miesco | Whats KDE's default text editor? |
| 23:04.44 | oneforall | ah each corner can do each effect . cube cylinder etc |
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| 23:05.19 | Khas | Yup, same with edges. |
| 23:05.49 | Wreckage | kate? |
| 23:05.49 | MadGirl | well, kate is sexy |
| 23:06.17 | oneforall | thanks |
| 23:06.26 | oneforall | yeah she is :) |
| 23:08.16 | Jucato | kwrite is the default text editor |
| 23:09.01 | marcosRz | how do I change the kde folder colors, only the folders??? |
| 23:11.21 | Miesco | oneforall: Are you the maintener? |
| 23:11.55 | oneforall | ? |
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| 23:12.49 | billsinthegame | anybody?? |
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| 23:13.56 | billsinthegame | can you recommend any kde 4.2 based distros which work out of the box dont tell me about opensuse i have used it any polished distros????? |
| 23:14.53 | oneforall | dunno I compile my own :) |
| 23:16.03 | billsinthegame | oneforall: compiling is not my problem but i need a very polished one like what zenwalk did with xfce something like that which works and plays everything out of the box |
| 23:16.58 | honschu | Is it somehow possible to get rounded corners as old MacOS has? |
| 23:17.23 | Jucato | honschu: rounded corners where? |
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| 23:18.10 | oneforall | well for video you'd never normally get that or audio. the mp3 and ltos of video patent issues |
| 23:18.26 | oneforall | ltos/lots |
| 23:18.57 | billsinthegame | oneforall: try zenwalk or dreamlinux |
| 23:19.11 | billsinthegame | oneforall: they play everything otb |
| 23:19.12 | honschu | Jucato: The desktop. |
| 23:19.20 | oneforall | I've seen them but no thanks . I'll stay with my own . |
| 23:19.31 | billsinthegame | oneforall: what are you using |
| 23:19.56 | oneforall | I cross compiled slackware to 64bit |
| 23:20.41 | billsinthegame | ok have you tried any other?? kde ones?? |
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| 23:20.52 | oneforall | but I have kernel 2.6.31-rc3 , gcc4.4, kde 4.3 ....lots |
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| 23:21.40 | Jucato | billsinthegame: unfortunately, you're the only one who'll be able to decide if something is "polished" enough for you or not. some would consider openSUSE polished. others wouldn't. you'll have to try them out. I think Kubuntu and Fedora's latest ships with 4.2 (but you'll want to upgrade to 4.3 immediately anyway) |
| 23:22.05 | Jucato | not sure what Chakra (Archlinux based) has atm |
| 23:23.01 | oneforall | and is polished where you can rip mp3 . cause most distros have that striped out . or libdvdcss |
| 23:23.19 | Jucato | and those are just the big names. you might actually find what you want in some other smaller, less popular distros. |
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| 23:23.40 | billsinthegame | Jucato: i am done with the corporate ones they hang to the patents shit. I want a community based ones i used opensuse but whenever i install it i have to do a 6,7 hr homework so i am asking for recommendations |
| 23:24.27 | billsinthegame | Jucato: but those smaller and less popular ones work like charm (personal experience!!) |
| 23:24.30 | Sho_ | billsinthegame: well upgrading kde to 4.3 is super easy on fedora |
| 23:24.40 | Sho_ | (unlike on opensuse in my personal experience) |
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| 23:26.08 | billsinthegame | Sho_: are you using kde 4.3?? howz it ?? runs fine ?? less bugs?? faster than xp?? |
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| 23:26.49 | billsinthegame | Sho_: xfce is faster but i want to go back to good olden kde days |
| 23:27.10 | Sho_ | billsinthegame: runs fine overall and is speedy. has a few bugs here and there I ran into, but most will be fixed in 4.3.1 which will come out soon. |
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| 23:28.50 | billsinthegame | Sho_: i basically use it for some programming, watching movies and browsing and some games thats it so i am looking for a nice distro no suse |
| 23:29.12 | billsinthegame | Sho_: is your recommendation fedora with kde?? |
| 23:29.16 | szal | oneforall: you know that 2.6.31-rc7 exists? :P |
| 23:29.21 | Sho_ | billsinthegame: Yeah, I really like Fedora 11 with KDE 4.3 |
| 23:29.38 | Sho_ | billsinthegame: Speedy & no-nonsense |
| 23:29.55 | oneforall | yeah so . I cut my sekf off for now . not going to grab a new one every week :) |
| 23:30.11 | oneforall | well every 2wks ruffly |
| 23:30.31 | oneforall | or rc that can be ever few days :) |
| 23:30.31 | billsinthegame | Sho_: ok then i am gonna try it |
| 23:30.44 | szal | billsinthegame: what's the problem w/ pulling in Packman after finishing installing? after all, you won't be doing a fresh install every other day, do you? |
| 23:30.58 | Sho_ | billsinthegame: On Fedora 11, KDE 4.3 is a regular software update, no messing with unsupported repositories like on openSUSe |
| 23:31.07 | oneforall | just tieing off to backup to an iso. tweeking etc |
| 23:31.46 | philotuxo | hi, anyone had problem with sftp on dolphin ? |
| 23:31.48 | billsinthegame | the problem with suse is it somehow gives me a impression that its bloated |
| 23:32.15 | oneforall | had to fix hal. they changed it form /etc/udev to ${exec_prefix}/lib but that kinda made the rules goto /usr/lib lol |
| 23:33.00 | szal | bloat is in the eye of the beholder.. if you want a no-frills approach, you might be well of w/ Slack or one of its derivatives (which Zenwalk is), or Arch |
| 23:33.00 | billsinthegame | bloated in sense for a normal install with everthing working will take more than 3gb!! not that i have low disk space still |
| 23:33.15 | oneforall | added the --with-udev-prefix=/lib yummy |
| 23:33.25 | billsinthegame | szal: i am using zenwalk presently |
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| 23:34.09 | billsinthegame | szal: but they concentrate only on xfce and polishing it. zenwalks xfce is pretty good i love it |
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| 23:34.37 | oneforall | not because I like kde . I just don't care for xfce |
| 23:34.43 | Necos | with the change from autoconf to cmake, how does one build kitchensync in 4.3? |
| 23:35.18 | szal | if I could get properly working automatic dependency resolution for Slack, I'd probably go Slack |
| 23:35.37 | honschu | Do I have to open up a window if I would like to draw to X? |
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| 23:36.06 | billsinthegame | oneforall: i too thought like that but when kde4 came out i had to search for options . use xfce once then you like it |
| 23:36.20 | oneforall | szal I've used it for years and I don't care for those apps at all . they never fit in for me . I rarely even open pgktools. I do it from cli(konsole ) |
| 23:36.36 | oneforall | pgktools/pkgtool |
| 23:37.04 | szal | oneforall: no need for a graphical pkg manager frontend, I just don't want to hunt down dependencies myself |
| 23:37.38 | oneforall | no I've used xfce,flux,bb,kde,E not 17 yet. but I prefer kde over xfce |
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| 23:38.29 | Necos | you forgot openbox oneforall :P |
| 23:38.36 | oneforall | szal I compile and find the deps . I'm bad for keeping notes but I've been forcing my self the last few months to keep them. :) |
| 23:38.56 | oneforall | I hate that word deps. its so rell hell too me lol |
| 23:39.04 | oneforall | real* |
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| 23:40.29 | szal | to me, openSUSE, especially w/ KDE, feels most integral, that's why I always kept coming back to it.. the perception that all parts of the system are well and sensibly put together to me is more important than perceived bloat |
| 23:41.19 | oneforall | szal I have a few thousnad build scripts I made |
| 23:41.37 | oneforall | try cross compilign lol |
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| 23:45.36 | oneforall | iirc rc8 is out now |
| 23:45.56 | oneforall | yeah it is |
| 23:46.20 | oneforall | well if its like the last few .31 should be out soon |
| 23:47.19 | oneforall | no wait thats when they got to like 2.6.30.8 the next has been out |
| 23:48.45 | Necos | hmmm |
| 23:49.31 | MTGap | Can anyone help me figure out where this icon is (the openoffice one, at bottom of screenshot / Argument Essay) http://imgur.com/YUXCV.png |
| 23:50.00 | oneforall | hmm looking at the gitweb maybe I was right the first time there. afterrc8 is a trend for the final to be next |
| 23:50.25 | Necos | damn it... |
| 23:50.28 | Necos | no wonder... |
| 23:50.38 | Necos | kitchensync hasn't been ported to KDE4? |
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| 23:55.23 | Necos | crap... now i have to figure out a way to get my blackberry sync'd with kontact in kde4 |
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