| 00:00.11 | Scoobaspeaz | something must not be working right though because i cant change anything or view anything with it |
| 00:00.22 | Scoobaspeaz | i have a list of things on the left but when i select any of them nothing happens |
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| 01:01.09 | jk- | hi all |
| 01:01.42 | jk- | what should KDE (using 4.2 here) be doing when I plug in an external monitor? |
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| 01:03.56 | eliasp | jk-: i'd say nothing at all until you configure it |
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| 01:17.06 | sharp15 | i'm having a problem with kpdf. everytime poppler is recompiled kpdf looses the sidebar. how do i get the sidebar back? i've tried recompiling kpdf and deleting it's configuration files but no change. |
| 01:17.25 | dboehmer | in kubuntu there was a nice widget in my panel which i could use to browser my home dir |
| 01:17.42 | dboehmer | in arch linux i do only find the folder view widget which does not allow browsing directories |
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| 01:17.46 | sharp15 | it would seem relevant that i'm using gentoo. |
| 01:18.00 | dboehmer | how to get a widget like in kubuntu? |
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| 01:19.42 | eliasp | dboehmer: you're probably looking for 'Lancelot' which provides such a directory launcher/browser |
| 01:20.19 | pinotree | sharp15: kpdf has no use of poppler |
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| 01:22.20 | dboehmer | eliasp: i have just installed lancelot (2 different widgets available here) but they have nothing to do with what i need |
| 01:22.45 | sharp15 | pinotree: then why did portage rebuild kpdf? |
| 01:23.05 | pinotree | sharp15: #gentoo-kde |
| 01:23.25 | sharp15 | either way kpdf was rebuilt and the sidebar disappeared. now i can't tell what page i'm on or how many are in the document. |
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| 01:24.25 | pinotree | Settings â Show navigation panel |
| 01:24.33 | stoned | hey |
| 01:24.35 | dboehmer | hello everyone |
| 01:24.43 | stoned | been a while whats up fellers |
| 01:25.05 | dboehmer | i know that there is a little widget on the default kde desktop of kubuntu which can be used to browse through the home dir |
| 01:25.29 | szal | dboehmer: why not ask in #kubuntu? they should know what the name is ;) |
| 01:25.33 | dboehmer | can somebody please tell me what its name is? |
| 01:25.36 | sharp15 | pinotree: thank you. :). and according to portage kpdf-3.5.9 does depend on poppler. but i'll follow that up with the #gentoo-kde folks. |
| 01:26.02 | dboehmer | szal: that was i actually wanted to do. sorry, wrong tab |
| 01:26.05 | pinotree | sharp15: if that is true, then gentoo is fscking up kpdf. |
| 01:26.51 | szal | sharp15: 3.5.9? aren't these folks a bit behind time? |
| 01:27.15 | Jucato | (somehow that situation sounds familiar :) |
| 01:27.43 | szal | if it were Debian, I could understand using an old version, but not for Gentoo.. |
| 01:27.47 | szal | ;) |
| 01:29.23 | sharp15 | szal: only the portions that need recompiled get updated (saves on compiling time.) :) i can't use kde-4 yet because i'm actually using hardened-gentoo with PaX/PIE/SSP (advanced and uncommon features) enabled. |
| 01:29.52 | sharp15 | and yes these features have frequently made me look like a moron. |
| 01:29.56 | szal | sharp15: I'm not talking KDE 4, but 3.5.10 |
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| 01:31.22 | sharp15 | szal: ok. did kpdf's code (not kde dependencies) change between 3.5.9 and 3.5.10? |
| 01:31.42 | pinotree | almost no |
| 01:32.14 | szal | to my knowledge KDE 4 doesn't have Kpdf |
| 01:32.48 | engineer | you always have acrobat the reader |
| 01:33.15 | sharp15 | szal: i thought you were asking why i wasn't using okular. |
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| 01:33.36 | szal | engineer: that's what I installed due to imho severe rendering problems from poppler in Okular |
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| 01:33.50 | pinotree | like? |
| 01:33.59 | szal | crappy-looking fonts |
| 01:34.03 | pinotree | like? |
| 01:34.06 | szal | with a few notable exceptions |
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| 01:34.50 | szal | pinotree: most fonts in PDFs in Okular look almost like bitmaps |
| 01:35.11 | pinotree | poppler version? |
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| 01:35.41 | szal | 0.10.2 |
| 01:35.57 | pinotree | a) update to 0.10.4 |
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| 01:36.08 | pinotree | b) configure your fontconfig properly |
| 01:36.08 | UnixOne | hi |
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| 01:36.15 | engineer | i |
| 01:36.54 | UnixOne | Can you help me export my emails and calendar entries etc? I don't know howto do that. It's for backup purposes. I will import them on an other computer maybe |
| 01:37.08 | UnixOne | I use PIM Kontact |
| 01:38.01 | UnixOne | I hope it's done with exporting a table in mysql. Because I thought Kontact uses Akonadi or so.. |
| 01:38.22 | szal | pinotree: define 'properly' |
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| 01:38.40 | UnixOne | I've kde4.2 |
| 01:38.50 | pinotree | open a document in kpdf, file â properties â fonts |
| 01:39.12 | pinotree | you see the list of fonts in the document, with some/all of them being external |
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| 01:39.46 | pinotree | do the same in okular, and basing on what you told, you should see different files used for the same fonts |
| 01:40.15 | szal | pinotree: most of my PDFs have their fonts embedded |
| 01:40.23 | pinotree | the other way round |
| 01:40.52 | pinotree | if all the pdf documents would have embedded fonts, the rendering would not be that different from eg acroread |
| 01:41.17 | pinotree | the problems come when the document has not a font, and a system one mus be used |
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| 01:46.07 | UnixOne | What is that? I goto systemssettings->KDE-Ressources.. and I see kontacts, notes etc. ?? |
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| 01:46.16 | UnixOne | Is that the data of Kontact? |
| 01:46.24 | UnixOne | weird |
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| 01:46.30 | InvaderNOP | I just noticed this not sure if it's relevant or not |
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| 01:49.22 | sharp15 | pinotree: according to #gentoo-kde. kpdf can work sans poppler but rendering is terrible. |
| 01:49.52 | pinotree | sharp15: kpdf is not done to go with poppler |
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| 01:51.02 | szal | pinotree: seems the rendering has improved quite a bit in KDE 4.2.1, but still not optimal.. Kpdf's rendering was better imho |
| 01:51.25 | pinotree | szal: kde nor okular does not render pdf documents |
| 01:51.35 | pinotree | sharp15: kpdf has (for various reasons) its embedded xpdf copy, and it is tested to work *only* with it |
| 01:51.57 | szal | pinotree: I meant Okular in KDE 4.2.1, don't be so picky if it's obvious ;) |
| 01:52.12 | pinotree | same, okular does not render |
| 01:52.21 | pinotree | sharp15: if gentoo guys decided to wildly patch kpdf, it's their fault |
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| 01:55.43 | szal | pinotree: http://picpaste.com/20090303_Acroread.png ; http://picpaste.com/20090303_Okular.png <<-- look at the difference particularly in the fine print (font: Thorndale AMT (Agfa Monotype), embedded subset) |
| 01:57.39 | pinotree | looks like acroread is less aliased |
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| 01:58.46 | UnixOne | szal: acrobat seems to use differnt fonts.. |
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| 02:01.38 | szal | pinotree: still I think Acroread's rendering is more 'natural', it more resembles what it looks like when printed.. and if you look at the fine print in Okular you will notice spacing irregularities |
| 02:01.59 | pinotree | szal: file a bug for poppler then |
| 02:02.25 | szal | such like are common in the display in word processing programs |
| 02:03.33 | SJr|Work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:09.52 | MrRat | SJr|Work: what video card? |
| 02:14.48 | SJr|Work | Intel something, MrRat |
| 02:16.51 | MrRat | sorry, im not familar with "intel something" but i do know that dual monitor is still lacking on kde4 with exception of nvidia's twinview which works flawless for me |
| 02:17.37 | SJr|Work | Yeah twinview works on another machine ,but it's not nvidia, it's specifically Intel Corporation 82945G/GZ Integrated Graphics. I can't even get it to work under Gnome |
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| 02:19.03 | jk- | SJr|Work: working fine here on an intel chipset |
| 02:19.10 | SJr|Work | What are you doing to enable it |
| 02:19.23 | jk- | does 'xrandr' show that two monitors are connected? |
| 02:19.29 | jk- | just the display options. |
| 02:19.53 | SJr|Work | not currently because I disconnected it, and added it to my windows box. |
| 02:20.01 | SJr|Work | krandrtray was just tanking. |
| 02:20.32 | jk- | SJr|Work: tanking how? |
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| 02:21.20 | SJr|Work | sorry I'm back |
| 02:21.25 | SJr|Work | lemme try this now |
| 02:21.32 | SJr|Work | I just hooked up the monitor again |
| 02:21.55 | SJr|Work | No xrandr does not see the other monitor currently |
| 02:22.04 | SJr|Work | It thinks it's disabled |
| 02:22.09 | SJr|Work | errr disconnected. |
| 02:22.28 | SJr|Work | It is most assuredly connected |
| 02:22.30 | jk- | ok, that'd be the problem then :) |
| 02:23.35 | SJr|Work | Hmmmm |
| 02:23.37 | SJr|Work | thoughts? |
| 02:24.34 | jk- | not sure - you may be best asking on the xorg channel. |
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| 02:24.50 | jk- | anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 02:24.59 | jk- | sorry, anything *relevant* :) |
| 02:25.10 | SJr|Work | lol I wouldn't know how to distinguish |
| 02:25.25 | jk- | try looking for lines with (EE) or (WW) |
| 02:25.56 | SJr|Work | EE intel(0) cannot support DRI with with FB width > 1024 |
| 02:26.05 | derek_k | SJr|Work: grep EE /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 02:27.09 | SJr|Work | hmmmm a whole bunch of ugly errors under WW |
| 02:27.40 | SJr|Work | http://pastebin.com/m46b271ec |
| 02:27.52 | SJr|Work | I also tried enable Xinerama in the xorg.conf but X wouldn't start afterwards. |
| 02:29.31 | jk- | SJr|Work: ok, probably best to show that to the xorg people |
| 02:29.35 | jk- | see if they have any ideas. |
| 02:29.42 | SJr|Work | #xorg ? |
| 02:29.49 | jk- | i think so |
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| 04:27.49 | excalibas | Hello, how can I stop the mouse scroll to change the desktop? |
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| 04:28.56 | excalibas | sorry that is stop the mouse scroll from switching the desktop |
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| 04:58.47 | erik-k | Why do I need to download the very latest version of QT every few weeks when I update KDE4? Seems like half as often as I try to update kde I end up having to somehow get QT first |
| 04:59.09 | erik-k | half the time it wants a version that's not even in my package repository yet |
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| 05:41.34 | MaNI | other then turning all visual effects off and switching to a simple high contrast theme, anyone got any tips for making kde faster over vnc? |
| 05:41.43 | MaNI | (kde 3 taht is) |
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| 06:06.38 | jnmbk | Hi, is there a screen reader for KDE? |
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| 06:13.33 | echoes | opensuse 11.1 x86_64/kde 4.2.65. i had an xserver crash, had to reboot, and now my folder view plasmoid is empty. i tried removing it and adding it back but it stays empty no matter what folder i set it to display. |
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| 06:16.21 | echoes | ideas anyone? |
| 06:16.30 | karthikp | Anyone see random crashes in KWin after the 4.2.1 update? |
| 06:17.01 | Zarin | karthikp, disable present windows |
| 06:17.08 | karthikp | It seems like if I trigger present windows while a flash video is playing/loading, it crashes the first time. |
| 06:17.20 | karthikp | Zarin: I should have come here sooner. :) |
| 06:17.36 | karthikp | I spent the better part of yesterday figuring this out :P |
| 06:17.49 | Zarin | karthikp, it crashes whenever the window you previously selected was closed |
| 06:18.52 | karthikp | This window wasn't closed. It also seems to crash if I have flash playing. But just once. After the first crash, it works fine. |
| 06:19.48 | karthikp | So, any idea when the fix will be released for us Present Windows loving folk? |
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| 06:21.19 | karthikp | I think it's the effect I use most in KWin, so this is kind of a damper in my workflow atm... |
| 06:22.13 | Zarin | Hmm |
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| 06:24.26 | Zarin | I guess I need to tell them to delay 4.2.1 =\ |
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| 06:40.51 | Zarin | karthikp, Okay I've committed the fixes to the 4.2 branch and will ask the release team to repackage 4.2.1. Hopefully the distributions that released it before it was announced will update their packages as well. |
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| 06:44.31 | karthikp | Zarin: Thanks a bunch! When the fix is released, I'll bug the archlinux people to update their repo. Sweet. |
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| 08:41.28 | mkdread | hi, is korganizer usable in kde4? it seems a lot of configurations aren't very user-friendly and views (day, week) fail for me |
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| 08:58.18 | SAngeli | Hi, anyone can tell me how to backup / restore Kmail profile? |
| 08:58.43 | SAngeli | https://www.linuxquestions.org seems to be down or unaccessible from my Internet connection |
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| 09:05.00 | BeteNoire | :> |
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| 09:18.31 | shodan45 | how do you change the theme on the "Analog Clock"? |
| 09:19.25 | shodan45 | description says it's SVG themable, but I don't see any option for that :/ |
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| 09:20.59 | shodan45 | oh, and I'm running opensuse 11.1 w/ kde 4.2 |
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| 09:25.31 | smurfslover | shodan45: configure desktop/advanced/desktop theme details |
| 09:26.04 | smurfslover | or you can edit ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma-appletsrc manually |
| 09:26.14 | smurfslover | gui option is the easiest |
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| 09:28.50 | shodan45 | smurfslover, sweet, thanks :D |
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| 09:43.53 | Gloonix | Hello |
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| 09:57.02 | muh2000 | hi |
| 09:57.23 | muh2000 | where is the future release roadmap located on kde.org? |
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| 10:08.13 | [mors] | hi folks |
| 10:08.25 | [mors] | does kde4 follow the freedesktop.org conventions ? |
| 10:08.48 | [mors] | I have some non kde apps which can't detect the right programs to open certain files, nor recognize the proper date formats |
| 10:09.03 | [mors] | and I've setted up everything on system settings |
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| 10:17.25 | naught101 | how do I switch between kwin and the compositing engine in kde4.2? |
| 10:18.35 | Zarin | naught101, System settings -> Desktop |
| 10:19.04 | naught101 | Zarin: I know, but it seems to have crashed or something - kwin has taken back over |
| 10:19.40 | naught101 | hrmm... some settings are wrong or something... failed to switch.. |
| 10:19.51 | Jucato | the compositing engine is part of kwin |
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| 10:21.22 | naught101 | ok. maybe I need to reboot (...) |
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| 10:42.38 | ikrabbe | PART |
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| 10:43.19 | centralnoise | sorry... |
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| 10:45.09 | mni | hi all |
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| 10:45.36 | mni | pls can any body help me with the meaning of K in KDE |
| 10:45.39 | mni | ? |
| 10:46.40 | Qu4Z | mni: It stands for KDE, I think. |
| 10:46.43 | Qu4Z | Or it's just K |
| 10:46.51 | Qu4Z | I prefer the former explanation, though. |
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| 10:47.54 | mni | yeah, i know that it's for KDE |
| 10:48.09 | mni | but i need the meaning of the K alone |
| 10:48.34 | friedrich| | it has none |
| 10:48.35 | Machtin | might be some KKK thing :o or it just means nothing |
| 10:48.52 | Qu4Z | mni: The K stands for KDE. |
| 10:48.54 | Machtin | well.. nothing but "K" ;) |
| 10:49.00 | friedrich| | it used to stand for "[K]ool [D]esktop [E]nvironment" |
| 10:49.02 | Qu4Z | I'm sticking by that explanation. |
| 10:49.17 | friedrich| | but nowadays it has no real meaning. |
| 10:49.39 | friedrich| | (to be honest, it show's kde's relation to the klu klux klan) :Ãp |
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| 10:52.06 | mni | No i doubt much |
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| 10:53.26 | mni | may be the foundation VP name 'Kalle' |
| 10:53.42 | mni | Kalle Dalheimer |
| 10:53.53 | mni | K FOR KALLE |
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| 11:02.13 | Martiini | May I ask someone to file a bugreport for me |
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| 11:03.17 | Martiini | Please .. Someone file a bugreport - feature request. - in Terminal when select a path , give option to open that path with right mouse click |
| 11:03.30 | Martiini | Please |
| 11:04.16 | Jejem | ? |
| 11:04.22 | Jejem | and what about filling it yourself? |
| 11:05.14 | szal | s/filling/filing/ |
| 11:05.27 | Jejem | to fill, no ? :) |
| 11:05.42 | szal | nah, file a bug |
| 11:05.45 | Martiini | its easier for dedicated people .. i have filed bugreports/requests but they all go unnoticed |
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| 11:05.59 | Jejem | szal: thanks for the info ;) |
| 11:07.17 | szal | Martiini: I guess the problem is: how is the terminal or some interpreting layer supposed to know that the selection is a path? |
| 11:07.49 | szal | for URLs this is relatively trivial as there are stringently occurring characters in there |
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| 11:09.53 | dokma | hi guys! I've lost my keyboard after upgrade on debian |
| 11:10.02 | dokma | no numpad, altgr, curly brackets |
| 11:10.21 | szal | I guess you should ask the Debian folks first :) |
| 11:10.35 | dokma | might be so |
| 11:10.36 | Martiini | well ..... for example .. in terminal emulator .. /home/martin/.kde/share/apps/okular/docdata/ .. is a path .. right ... so .. I wish clicking on it would give a menu like Hyperwords in Firefox .. where I could choose option "open path in Dolphin" |
| 11:10.39 | dokma | I'll do that |
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| 11:11.11 | Martiini | someone please file a bugreport for this ?? please |
| 11:11.18 | Martiini | eh ? |
| 11:11.59 | freeedrich| | file your own ones? |
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| 11:12.27 | szal | the only reliable solution to this I can imagine is for you to do the extra work and type 'file://' before the path, then it could definitely know it is one |
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| 11:14.38 | Martiini | szal: correct, that works |
| 11:14.57 | Martiini | (except for me it opens in nautilus) |
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| 11:20.35 | Martiini | szal: so ... is there any way regular paths in Terminal can be made to appear as a link and open in dolphin ?? |
| 11:21.56 | Martiini | hello |
| 11:22.03 | Martiini | anyone talk to me |
| 11:22.06 | Martiini | ?? |
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| 11:22.52 | Martiini | it is frustrating to shout things into the vast empty space of tha internets |
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| 11:27.43 | murrcoss | hi, has anyone a solution to this problem: i made a shortcut for aterm, <F4>, now when i press F4, aterm opens, but when i press it a second time, nothing happens, and my keyboard is all locked up. i can't type anything, just alt-shift-sysreq-b works. now when i close the first aterm, the second one appears and a "sorry - KDE Daemon: kdeinit could not launch aterm"-window |
| 11:28.24 | murrcoss | hi Martiini |
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| 11:29.17 | murrcoss | ah, and after the sorry-window shows up, the keyboard is unlocked... |
| 11:29.29 | Martiini | how do you create shortcuts to applications |
| 11:29.30 | Martiini | ?? |
| 11:29.51 | murrcoss | in the menu, right klick on a item, edit, and there you can do it |
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| 11:34.38 | Martiini | murrcoss: how do I assign a key to that shortcut ?? |
| 11:35.24 | murrcoss | Martiini: klick on it, klick on the square right of the arrow, and press a key |
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| 11:38.24 | Martiini | Im on kde4.2 .. I just made a shortcut of application on desktop .. now .. right click on desktop icon gives me "Icon Settings" "Desktop options" "Remove this icon" |
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| 11:39.21 | Martiini | murrcoss: I just described what Im seeing .. there is no option to assign a key to desktop shortcut |
| 11:39.55 | Martiini | i have no idea |
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| 11:40.58 | Martiini | How many developers are there who work on kde4 ?? (fulltime professionals) ??? |
| 11:41.03 | murrcoss | Martiini: not a desktop shortcut, a keyboard shortcut |
| 11:41.50 | Martiini | yes, that right ,, how have you done it |
| 11:43.49 | murrcoss | just like i told you, but you also can assign shortcuts in settings-regional&accessibility-keyboard shortcuts-command shortcuts |
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| 11:45.49 | Martiini | murrcoss: r u shure .. ure not on about gnome ?? |
| 11:46.04 | murrcoss | Martiini: yes, i am... |
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| 11:46.16 | Martiini | this is #kde |
| 11:46.53 | Martiini | murrcoss: how old are you? |
| 11:47.01 | Martiini | :) |
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| 11:50.20 | murrcoss | Martiini: 23 ;p |
| 11:51.52 | Martiini | ... and u've posted gnome questiong to #kde ??? |
| 11:52.50 | murrcoss | Martiini: nope, that's a question about kde... |
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| 11:53.29 | Martiini | I can see the vision of kde4 and what its supposed to be but it seems the work ahead is too overwhelming for a small team of kde4 developers |
| 11:53.51 | Martiini | Apple and Microsoft get all the best developers ... Im guessing |
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| 11:54.12 | Emess | Martiini: just Apple |
| 11:54.19 | Emess | and by all the best developers I mean Woz |
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| 11:54.34 | Emess | Apple Mail is by far the best mail client I have ever seen or used |
| 11:54.34 | Martiini | yess .. if only kde4 became as good as apple OSX |
| 11:54.42 | Martiini | Woz has retired .. hasnt he |
| 11:54.43 | Emess | Martiini: you mean kde3.5 |
| 11:54.56 | Emess | if 3.5.11 was using Qt4, I would probably stick with KDE |
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| 11:55.14 | annma | Emess: ??? |
| 11:55.16 | Martiini | Woz must have billions in Apple shares .. he has no incentive to develop anything |
| 11:55.31 | annma | Emess: 3.5.11 using Qt 4 is KDE4 |
| 11:55.34 | Emess | annma: I DO NOT LIKE KDE4 HOLY CRAP NOT EVERYONE LOVES IT OSHI |
| 11:55.44 | annma | calm down |
| 11:55.45 | Martiini | IMess |
| 11:55.59 | Emess | annma: no, KDE4 is "everything I hate about metacity, compiz, and explorer, done in Qt4" |
| 11:56.04 | murrcoss | Emess: jop, 3.5 is much nicer ;) |
| 11:56.11 | Emess | murrcoss: yes <3 |
| 11:56.16 | psteyn | kde 4 rocks |
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| 11:56.21 | psteyn | ktnx |
| 11:56.22 | [mors] | does kde4 follow the freedesktop.org conventions ? |
| 11:56.32 | [mors] | I have some non kde apps which can't detect the right programs to open certain files, nor recognize the proper date formats, and I've setted up everything on system settings |
| 11:56.32 | pinotree | which ones are you referring to? |
| 11:56.40 | annma | Emess: you don(t knwo what you are talking about obviously |
| 11:56.47 | Emess | I have some Qt programs which DEPEND on oxygen |
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| 11:56.55 | Emess | which is the only reason I use kde4 in the first place |
| 11:56.57 | annma | [mors]: we do |
| 11:57.03 | psteyn | shame you gonna be ok Emess? |
| 11:57.08 | psteyn | wanna talk about it? |
| 11:57.14 | Emess | annma: how so? |
| 11:57.15 | psteyn | ^___________^ |
| 11:57.15 | annma | Qt programs which depend on Oxygen??? which ones? |
| 11:57.19 | pinotree | Emess: oxygen is not a dependency for anything |
| 11:57.22 | Emess | annma: kdenlive |
| 11:57.26 | annma | LOL |
| 11:57.29 | psteyn | rofl |
| 11:57.32 | Emess | it rages if the oxygen icons aren't present |
| 11:57.34 | Emess | for some reason :S |
| 11:57.53 | annma | ask your distro about it |
| 11:57.53 | Emess | not like that matters tho, I just boot OSX and Premier/AFX :) |
| 11:57.55 | pinotree | that's an icon theme |
| 11:58.02 | Emess | pinotree: I know, thats why its weird |
| 11:58.30 | pinotree | and anyway, you can install the oxygen icon theme without anything kde4 bit |
| 11:58.43 | Emess | a desktop is meant to make using your machine easier, not get in the way |
| 11:58.53 | annma | isn't kdenlive depending on kdelibs? |
| 11:58.53 | Emess | and plasma gets in the way a whole lot for me |
| 11:59.08 | annma | Emess: use gnome or kde3 and be happy |
| 11:59.21 | Emess | annma: nfi, it installs fine under kde3 with kdelibs4 installed, but if oxygen is not the current icon set IN USE it spits out all sorts of errors |
| 11:59.29 | Emess | I did use kde3 until this started happening |
| 11:59.37 | annma | so complain either to your distro or the author |
| 11:59.40 | Emess | and gnome no thanks, maybe Antico or AWM or OpenBox |
| 11:59.48 | annma | kdenlive is NOT in KDE official anyway |
| 11:59.54 | Emess | I know that |
| 11:59.56 | annma | so I cannot check it |
| 12:00.00 | Emess | but I said it was a Qt app, not KDE |
| 12:00.06 | annma | so ask your distro or complain to the devels |
| 12:00.12 | Emess | I dont think its my distro problem either way |
| 12:00.21 | annma | here we support KDE official progs |
| 12:00.35 | pinotree | (kdenlive is a kde4 application, FYI) |
| 12:00.55 | annma | so oxygen icons should be installed |
| 12:01.06 | Emess | hurr |
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| 12:01.24 | Emess | idk if I even want to deal with linux anymore really, I'm getting tired of the instability :/ |
| 12:01.34 | annma | sure |
| 12:01.41 | annma | go deal with Vista |
| 12:01.48 | Emess | windows is even worse :) |
| 12:02.04 | Emess | more liek go deal with BSD or OSX, or Solaris if I feel like destroying my morale |
| 12:02.47 | annma | [mors]: can you elaborate on your problem? |
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| 12:05.13 | brot | Emess: if you like to have fun with osx than take your favourite usb-stick and plug it in and out real fast. |
| 12:05.22 | vbgunz | is powerdevil the power management application for a desktop also? I just don't think it works :( |
| 12:05.38 | brot | that was enough to get system freezes with osx. |
| 12:05.52 | Emess | brot: I don't particularly LIKE OSX, I just happen to like its mail client and how adobe products are actually stable and usable |
| 12:06.02 | annma | vbgunz: elaborate |
| 12:06.12 | Emess | also what part of kde4 manages that lockin screen after inactivity, powerdevil? |
| 12:06.29 | vbgunz | annma: I have a desktop. is powerdevil supposed to work on one or only notebooks? |
| 12:06.38 | Emess | my screen randomly goes black when that happens and I can login but nothing comes up for like 20 minutes unless I shift VC or something a few times :S |
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| 12:06.54 | annma | vbgunz: ? |
| 12:07.30 | vbgunz | annma: under services it states its a laptop power manager. I have several options in powerdevil talking about battery life and lid, etc |
| 12:08.00 | annma | and what does not work on your desktop then? |
| 12:08.17 | vbgunz | anyhow, I have "When power button pressed" set to "suspend to ram" but if I tap power on my box, it doesn't suspend to ram. it sort of shuts down all together (not hold for 4 seconds) |
| 12:08.32 | [mors] | annma: I have to check first if it's the application misbehaving |
| 12:08.39 | [mors] | would be odd if it was kde :p |
| 12:08.40 | annma | [mors]: OK |
| 12:08.49 | annma | keep me informes |
| 12:08.52 | annma | informed |
| 12:08.57 | vbgunz | also, I've set it to sleep in 1 minute. stood around to watch and 15 minutes will pass until my ordiinary screensaver kicks in :/ |
| 12:09.29 | vbgunz | I can go to sleep overnight while it is set to sleep in 60 minutes and I will wake up and it never slept |
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| 12:09.57 | vbgunz | I believe personally no matter what I do to try and tweak up my power management I am doing it in the wrong application. |
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| 12:11.01 | [mors] | annma: are $LC_TIME and $LC_ALL meant to do anything ? |
| 12:11.07 | vbgunz | its so bad in fact I was honestly no joke (not saying to say) was thinking about uninstalling it because I just don't think it works in any capacity. under services it says running. I am convinced this is a notebook/laptop only power management application. is it not? |
| 12:12.02 | annma | [mors]: you should explain better your problem |
| 12:12.14 | annma | those are env vars, not freedesktop stuff |
| 12:13.00 | Typosu | I'm getting hal "rejected message" messages when kde tries to use powerdevil features, How do I fix it? |
| 12:13.55 | [mors] | annma: the application developer rely on the $LANG to find out the locale from which they should extract the date formats. I've setted up my localte as Portugal in System settings>Regional & language, but $LANG still returns en-US.UTF-8 |
| 12:14.28 | annma | System Settings is for KDE apps |
| 12:14.47 | annma | it sets the $KDE_LANG variable |
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| 12:15.21 | annma | it relies on you having the KDE translations installed |
| 12:15.44 | annma | what app are you talking about and does it have translations installed? |
| 12:16.59 | vbgunz | I just deleted every profile in powerdevil. set lock screen to 1 minute. going idle |
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| 12:17.34 | kushal_12_27_200 | I tried to run openSuSE with KDE 4.2 on Parallels 4 on a MacBook running Tiger (10.4.11) I was unable to get the screen resolution right on the live CD ... Do you suppose it is a problem with KDE or with Parallels? Thanks |
| 12:18.16 | [mors] | annma: it's Opera |
| 12:18.23 | [mors] | from one of the Opera guys. |
| 12:18.26 | [mors] | Opera uses the standard C90 strftime function to get date/time formatting. It's something that every Unix system has. It has nothing to do with fd.org. |
| 12:18.59 | annma | so set LANG to pt_PT |
| 12:19.21 | annma | not sure how this has to do with KDE |
| 12:19.29 | Typosu | im wondering if anyone knows how to get powerdevil to function correctly. all it gets from Hal is "Rejected send message" errors in logs. |
| 12:20.04 | [mors] | annma: why does KDE sets KDE_LANG and not LANG ? LANG is the defacto standard used by ALL apps |
| 12:20.11 | annma | no |
| 12:20.17 | [mors] | ALLs as in, ALL that seem not to be KDE ones |
| 12:20.36 | annma | [mors]: to use a translation you need it installed first |
| 12:20.38 | Typosu | my user is in the powerdev group as google suggests would fix this... |
| 12:20.54 | annma | do you have Opera Pt translation for a start? |
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| 12:21.28 | [mors] | annma: opera pt is unrelated, i'm talking about date formats |
| 12:21.40 | vbgunz | I've tried going idle not interacting with my box in anyway 2 times now and both times. powerdevil will not lock the screen in 1 minute |
| 12:21.45 | vbgunz | trying again |
| 12:21.46 | annma | you're talking about lots of stuff [mors] |
| 12:21.53 | [mors] | annma: and BTW, $KDE_LANG is empty |
| 12:22.07 | annma | restart you question then |
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| 12:22.16 | annma | about sate format where? how? what's wrong? |
| 12:22.27 | annma | sate/date |
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| 12:23.08 | [mors] | annma: i'm currently talking about date formats. Opera uses strftime, which relies on $LANG. When changing the locale on KDE system setting, kde does not change $LANG, nor creates $KDE_LANG. Where should applications get their locale info ? |
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| 12:23.29 | annma | KDE does not set Opera format |
| 12:23.35 | annma | KDE sets KDE formats |
| 12:23.38 | murrcoss | does anyone know something about keyboard-shortcuts can block the keyboard? |
| 12:23.48 | annma | so Opera and KDE are unrelated |
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| 12:24.20 | [mors] | annma: where does KDE store the locale info? |
| 12:24.37 | annma | KDE locale info is for KDE proges |
| 12:24.41 | [mors] | annma: it's not Opera format, it's strftime, C90 standard format, used by many unix apps |
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| 12:24.50 | dokma | hey guys. my numlock key is inverted. is there a way to revert it to proper behaviour? |
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| 12:24.59 | dokma | that's in kde in the ttys it's ok |
| 12:25.28 | annma | [mors]: format is set by your distro for your Unix apps |
| 12:25.58 | annma | how do you change the locale in SystemSettings? |
| 12:26.08 | [mors] | annma: what you're saying makes no sense... so kde stores all it's setting to itself, and if I have an application which is non-Qt/on-kde it will not integrate |
| 12:26.23 | annma | KDE stores only KDE settings |
| 12:26.27 | annma | not all settings |
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| 12:26.33 | annma | why would it |
| 12:27.02 | vbgunz | heh, no joke. I set everything for 1 minute in powerdevil and nothing happens after 1 minute. the powerdevil service is running. kded4 crashed I think the first time. could this have something to do with it? |
| 12:27.21 | Typosu | it seems dbus broke stuff |
| 12:27.29 | Typosu | or at least thats the hint I've gotten. |
| 12:27.59 | Typosu | they changed some policy which means apps have to install some new file to get it to work properly again |
| 12:28.02 | [mors] | annma: do you have a sinlge clue of what I'm talking about ? gah... |
| 12:28.07 | [mors] | annma: thank you |
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| 12:28.15 | annma | I am a kde devel [mors] |
| 12:28.25 | annma | plus a translator |
| 12:28.29 | vbgunz | Typosu: you're saying powerdevil is broken? |
| 12:28.35 | [mors] | annma: System Settings>Regional & language -> you can set locale there ! |
| 12:28.36 | annma | so I do have a clue about KDE system settings and locale |
| 12:28.38 | vbgunz | im convinced it is |
| 12:28.38 | Typosu | no, Im saying dbus broke powerdevil |
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| 12:28.53 | Typosu | its dbus's fault from what I can see. |
| 12:28.59 | vbgunz | heh, nothing breaks. something breaks something else :/ |
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| 12:29.00 | arekm | is looking for "grep -E 'okular.*pdf' /usr/share/applications/mimeinfo.cache" output on kde4 system |
| 12:29.22 | pinotree | arekm: looking for what? |
| 12:29.29 | Typosu | vbgunz: not true, but generally people strive to not change policies on widely used interfaces. |
| 12:29.44 | vbgunz | is there a manual way to associate my powerbutton with "suspend to ram"? |
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| 12:30.10 | arekm | pinotree: output of that command |
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| 12:30.14 | annma | [mors]: do SHift F1 to read help in this systemsettings module |
| 12:30.17 | pinotree | arekm: what for? |
| 12:30.18 | Typosu | vbgunz: probably with khotkey or something. |
| 12:30.23 | Typosu | assign a key to a pm comman |
| 12:30.27 | annma | [mors]: it says it's for KDE apps only |
| 12:30.37 | arekm | pinotree: to see if there are kde4/blah.desktop or kde4-blah.desktop entries |
| 12:30.41 | JackTop_ | vbgunzdo you run hal with dbus ? |
| 12:30.51 | vbgunz | JackTop_: I think so |
| 12:30.58 | pinotree | arekm: what is your real problem? |
| 12:31.09 | vbgunz | JackTop_: I only think so because I was running through something and saw hal as the only option one sec |
| 12:31.30 | JackTop_ | vbgunz are you using evdev with xorg ? |
| 12:31.31 | arekm | pinotree: that opera tries to open kde4-blah.desktop file while there is kde4/blah.desktop file (when dealing with opening pdf) |
| 12:31.35 | arekm | pinotree: happy now? :> |
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| 12:31.43 | vbgunz | JackTop_: under hardware "power management backend" ... its the only option |
| 12:31.53 | Typosu | vbgunz: I might have a fix... |
| 12:32.06 | vbgunz | JackTop_: how do I find out, just looking at xorg.conf? |
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| 12:32.25 | vbgunz | under module? |
| 12:32.39 | vbgunz | dbe, extmod, type1, freetype, glx |
| 12:32.45 | pinotree | arekm: yes, telling the problem is always better than asking for unuseful questions |
| 12:33.20 | arekm | pinotree: these are useful question for me, that's why I ask them, so, could you paste output of that command? |
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| 12:34.11 | vbgunz | JackTop_: whats the deal with evdev and xorg? |
| 12:34.35 | JackTop_ | hmm, that is a bit thorny, i just found about all this stuff this morning. but the new way of doing things is to run hal/dbus as demons, then configure hal to detect your mouse and keybard, and then in xorg use nothing for input devices. i had a similar problem with not all my buttons on the mouse being detected. there is however a quick test you can do. run an application called xev, and see if something happens when you press the power button. |
| 12:34.40 | vbgunz | JackTop_: going through my xorg.log I can see it has been loaded |
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| 12:39.07 | [mors] | annma: in which file does KDE store file type associations ? |
| 12:39.48 | pinotree | arekm: it gives the result you expected |
| 12:40.27 | arekm | so "/" not "-" ? ok, thanks |
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| 12:42.03 | Eren | hi folks, is there anyone using KMail with a mail alias? |
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| 12:44.21 | vbgunz | I just installed cpufrequtils hoping it would kcik powerdevil in the ass... I think powerdevil kicked cpufrequtils in the scrotums instead |
| 12:44.31 | pinotree | arekm: come to #kde-devel and ask dfaure |
| 12:44.34 | vbgunz | heh |
| 12:44.46 | GraveDigger | vbgunz: and it did epically |
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| 12:46.45 | vbgunz | heh |
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| 12:47.46 | JackTop | vbgunz: sorry i had some probs with this laptop :) |
| 12:48.10 | vbgunz | I just went to get coffee. 2 minutes idle... nothing... maybe a name change is in order? mofodevil? |
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| 12:48.25 | JackTop | a question you are talking about the powerbutton on the keyboard right ? |
| 12:48.50 | vbgunz | or how about, we-didnot-break-it-they-did-devil? |
| 12:49.33 | JackTop | even though i think the powerbutton on the case also acts as an input device when pressed briefly |
| 12:50.01 | GraveDigger | event device that is |
| 12:50.16 | JackTop | yes |
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| 12:51.00 | vbgunz | not sure how to set it up as "suspend to ram"... it does something just doesn't suspend to ram... I think it borks and is trying to suspend to disk or hybrid instead... I just got suspend to ram working flawlessly so far |
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| 12:52.10 | vbgunz | how do I restart kded4? |
| 12:52.48 | vbgunz | killall kded4; kded4 ? |
| 12:53.36 | GraveDigger | nope |
| 12:53.41 | GraveDigger | log out and log in again |
| 12:53.53 | vbgunz | thats not cool :( |
| 12:53.59 | vbgunz | damn :/ |
| 12:56.21 | JackTop | vbgunz: ah, then you're issue is something completely different to what i'm talking about. afaik for suspend to disk to work you need a swap partition equal or bigger than your system ram... |
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| 12:57.01 | vbgunz | JackTop: I have 6GB ram, a 12GB partition |
| 12:57.32 | JackTop | vbgunz: 12gb swap ? |
| 12:57.35 | vbgunz | I actually blew out a Windows Server 2008 partition by trying to resize it with gparted... |
| 12:57.42 | rmrfchik | hi, I have two identical key shortcuts for copy in kmail (Ctrl-C). Each time I press Ctrl-C kmail complains it has two identical actions and do not perfom copy. |
| 12:57.48 | rmrfchik | How to remove one binding? |
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| 12:58.05 | vbgunz | JackTop: yeah man, anything to get suspending to work :) |
| 12:58.21 | vbgunz | I just got powerdevil to actually work |
| 12:59.20 | vbgunz | I installed cpufrequtils *but* had to run $ sudo killall kded4; kded4 & .... that worked for me. powerdevil for the first time ever actually locked my screen in 1 minute... am going to try locking in 1 and suspending in 2... will brb |
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| 12:59.49 | vbgunz | I did that because kded4 died on me in this session and powerdevil, khotkeys, etc refused to work for me |
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| 12:59.58 | vbgunz | am going to test it again in a minute |
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| 13:01.58 | vbgunz | well, here we go... (joker) |
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| 13:04.22 | JackTop | a quick question. just waited for fsck to finish on a 1 TB drive, and there was some corruption in the .kde4 dir. since it's a relatively new installation, all i need to do is delete .kd4 and it will be recreated. right ? |
| 13:05.16 | JackTop | don't mind loosing anything mail or configuration related, since i just installed it a few days ago, and have all the important stuff in another home |
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| 13:05.50 | Tindor | JackTop, it's quite safe to delete it then |
| 13:06.10 | Tindor | and everything will be ok, if you're sure you won't miss anything |
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| 13:42.37 | JackWinter | what is the best way to migrate your data from kde 3.5.10 to 4.2 ? just copy you old .kde over to the new account and let kde do it itself, or to import data from each application ? really just is email/accounts/addressbook/calendar/bookmarks. irc and all the other stuff might even be better to configure one by one.. |
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| 13:45.10 | _RedGhost_ | Hi there |
| 13:45.17 | _RedGhost_ | I see some 4.2.1 packages out there |
| 13:45.26 | _RedGhost_ | any chance of finding release notes? |
| 13:45.49 | excalibas | How do I is stop the mouse scroll from switching the desktop? |
| 13:46.52 | Jucato | _RedGhost_: it's not officially released yet. those packages are considered pre-release and might still change (for example, a crucial fix was added a few hours ago) |
| 13:46.54 | JackWinter | _RedGhost_: i think you have to wait until the 5:th for the official release :) |
| 13:47.12 | _RedGhost_ | oook |
| 13:47.18 | _RedGhost_ | no dist-upgrade for me then :) |
| 13:47.37 | _RedGhost_ | 4.2 works like a charm anyway (mostly) |
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| 13:50.53 | pielgrzym | hi peeps |
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| 13:51.28 | pielgrzym | I'm replacing my good'old kde3 with latest kde4. will it reuse old config files or should I rather make a new dir? |
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| 13:55.04 | vbgunz | well. I got powerdevil to atleast do something when a certain amount of time is up *but* cannot get it to intercept the power button nor does it intercept the "suspend to ram" menu item in kickoff :/ |
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| 13:59.40 | damada | hi, I have some very strange mouse cursor corruptions lately, on a dual screen setup (don't know if this is important). I *think* it's triggered if the cursor is on a screen edge for some time, but I can't tell for sure |
| 14:00.01 | damada | changing the cursor theme didn't help, I still get the corrupted cursor after some time... I think the trigger is to have it at a screen border for some time... Here's some shots I took with my lousy cellphone camera: http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/2559/dsc00077bvk.jpg http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4748/dsc00078r.jpg http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/4254/dsc00079s.jpg |
| 14:00.39 | damada | the graphics driver is radeonhd, the screen layout is being done with xrandr |
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| 14:04.33 | Authority | Anyone know how to trigger the KDE logout sequence without clicking the logout buttons (and no, I don't want to do ctrl+alt+bksp) |
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| 14:05.45 | shadeslayer | using the power button?? |
| 14:06.20 | shadeslayer | you can use kpowersave to configure your buttons |
| 14:06.53 | Authority | shadeslayer: thanks, I'll take a look at kpowersave |
| 14:07.07 | shadeslayer | ok |
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| 14:11.41 | ld50 | KDE4.2 can be built against QT4.5, right? |
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| 14:12.29 | BeteNoire | rayt |
| 14:13.44 | ld50 | and is it a good idea? or does KDE4.2 have any hacks/workarounds for Qt4.4 bugs that don't make sense against Qt4.5? |
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| 14:22.30 | Kenjiro | guys, should quanta plus come with kdewebdev? |
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| 14:23.29 | excalibas | How do I is stop the mouse scroll from switching the desktop? |
| 14:23.37 | JackWinter | i'm on kde 4.2.1 on arch now. any chance that the 4.2.1 release will have <MergeDir>applications-merged</MergeDir> in /etc/xdg/menus/kde-applications.menu ? otherwise all my wine applications appear in lost & found |
| 14:24.19 | Kenjiro | JackWinter: do you have all kde-4.2.1 packages installed? |
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| 14:25.38 | Typosu | so I mostly got my suspend issues worked out. now its just pm-suspend being difficult. won't use kernel mode suspend, only uswsusp which happens to not resume properly. |
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| 14:29.07 | JackWinter | Kenjiro: i had this problem with 4.2.0, and adding the above line fixed it. i just upgraded to 4.2.1 tagged and had to redo the edit to kde-applications.menu. i'm not sure if i have all packages (arch noob), but i think i do... |
| 14:29.46 | JackWinter | any specific package ? |
| 14:30.09 | Kenjiro | I just wanted to know if you have kdewebdev installed and then... if you have quanta plus |
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| 14:30.40 | Kenjiro | (which, as far as I know, should come with kdewebdev) |
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| 14:32.28 | JackWinter | kdewebdev 4.2.1 and i don't think i have quanta. no package names so, nor a man page ? |
| 14:32.55 | JackWinter | Kenjiro: ^^ |
| 14:33.12 | Kenjiro | JackWinter: quanta should be part of kdewebdev. |
| 14:33.20 | Kenjiro | try running it (execute quanta) |
| 14:33.29 | JackWinter | does not execute |
| 14:33.35 | Kenjiro | hmmmmmmmmmm as I thought |
| 14:33.39 | Kenjiro | JackWinter: ok, really thanks |
| 14:33.50 | JackWinter | np, happy if i can help |
| 14:34.08 | Kenjiro | now I have to find out what I have to fix so to have quanta working here |
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| 14:40.46 | JackWinter | i've fixed my xorg.conf and now get all 12 buttons in xev. how do i assign them to different functions in kde 4.2.1 ? |
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| 14:41.47 | JackWinter | or do i have to assign them to X events ? |
| 14:43.31 | coubeatczech | hello, do you know how to adjust apearence of kde apps, when I do not use tem in kde, but in different WM...? |
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| 14:45.30 | pinotree | coubeatczech: use kcontrol (kde3) or systemsettings (kde4) |
| 14:46.03 | coubeatczech | pinotree: thanks |
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| 14:49.22 | thiago_home | JackWinter: mouse buttons? |
| 14:50.59 | JackWinter | yeah, i have a lot of buttons on this mouse, as an example i can tilt the scrollwheel horisontally so would like to use that for horisontal scroll. i have other buttons i'd like to use for backwards/forwards, i have a wheel for zoom, etc. |
| 14:51.10 | jthomas_ | My friend's KDE4 doesn't have all of the applications in the menu, like KDEnlive isn't there but it runs from [alt][f2]. How do we update his menu? |
| 14:51.14 | JackWinter | thiago_home: ^^ |
| 14:51.53 | thiago_home | JackWinter: you can't use them in Qt applications, since Qt only recognises up to 5 buttons only |
| 14:52.00 | thiago_home | that includes the wheel up and wheel down |
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| 14:52.38 | JackWinter | oops, so any workarounds ? |
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| 15:05.04 | OxDeadC0de | odd, I finally got KDE running again, but the damndest thing keeps happening.. control, alt, and shift are (At random without me touching them) being held down, usually (but not always) pressing them all will "cure" it for a bit (a bit being 10 seconds to a minute). Makes it very difficult to use =|. Symptoms appear in both ubuntu 4.2 and nightly-neon(Both up to date).. Qt problems maybe? |
| 15:05.20 | OxDeadC0de | but not in gnome |
| 15:05.26 | BeteNoire | o_O |
| 15:05.29 | thiago_home | I doubt it |
| 15:05.31 | OxDeadC0de | (And I hate gnome, sorry for the newlines) |
| 15:05.33 | thiago_home | it usually is X's fault |
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| 15:05.52 | thiago_home | or some weird interaction with a keyboard-grabbing application |
| 15:06.07 | OxDeadC0de | well I did do some very stupid things while inhebriated involving trying to overwrite 4.2 with svn at one point, that bombed, finally got it all back and reinstalled everything |
| 15:06.08 | thiago_home | it grabs the keyboard and doesn't let the app see the KeyRelease event |
| 15:06.24 | OxDeadC0de | but I don't even press it for it to happen so how does it get a keyPressed event? |
| 15:07.02 | thiago_home | oh, without touching? |
| 15:07.08 | thiago_home | now that's something I've never seen |
| 15:07.19 | OxDeadC0de | also, kded was using 100% cpu last night |
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| 15:07.39 | OxDeadC0de | I think something is still broken (Like I said, i gave myself some "dll-hell" trying to replace 4.2 with svn) |
| 15:08.08 | OxDeadC0de | I think I still have qt-copy with patches applied installed over ubuntu's qt too |
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| 15:08.27 | l0calh0s1 | Hello |
| 15:09.07 | l0calh0s1 | Is possible to set dpi manually? |
| 15:09.07 | thiago_home | l0calh0s1: you shouldn't do that |
| 15:09.07 | thiago_home | it's possible, but you shouldn't do it |
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| 15:09.17 | l0calh0s1 | why? |
| 15:09.19 | l0calh0s1 | :/ |
| 15:09.51 | l0calh0s1 | i want using clear type and turner's patches :/ |
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| 15:11.03 | thiago_home | I don't know who turner is |
| 15:11.09 | ld50 | some times I have duplicate systray icons: http://img124.imageshack.us/my.php?image=76397983.png is it a known problem? |
| 15:11.09 | thiago_home | in any case, DPI is a calculated value |
| 15:11.11 | OxDeadC0de | ugh I think I'll have to nuke my main partition, if nobody has any ideas =|. but need cables for my external hard drive to do it |
| 15:11.28 | thiago_home | it's the screen resolution divided by the screen size |
| 15:11.35 | l0calh0s1 | thiago_home: david turner. |
| 15:11.55 | thiago_home | if you want to change the DPI, you ought to change one of those two parameters instead (e.g., get a bigger or smaller monitor) |
| 15:11.58 | thiago_home | l0calh0s1: never heard of him |
| 15:12.01 | l0calh0s1 | thiago_home: but fonts in 91 dpi sesolution or 92 looks better that in 96dpi |
| 15:12.02 | thiago_home | why do you want to set the DPI? |
| 15:12.19 | OxDeadC0de | lame, arora can't load that imageshack image =| |
| 15:12.34 | thiago_home | ld50: which one? |
| 15:12.48 | l0calh0s1 | becouse i used fonts settings on gnome by manual settings, and imho kdes fonts are ugly.. |
| 15:12.57 | ld50 | thiago_home, the blue xchat icon should be smplayer's icon |
| 15:13.08 | thiago_home | ld50: why? |
| 15:13.14 | thiago_home | l0calh0s1: KDE default fonts are the system fonts |
| 15:13.28 | thiago_home | l0calh0s1: blame your distribution for not choosing proper default settings (or for screwing them up) |
| 15:13.46 | thiago_home | l0calh0s1: and, like I said, DPI is calculated. |
| 15:13.48 | OxDeadC0de | ld50 the plasma team is working on a whole new system tray applet that should cure a ton of problems |
| 15:14.19 | ld50 | thiago_home, well, it is smplayer's icon, it's just the image that is wrong |
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| 15:15.12 | thiago_home | ld50: and why do you think this is the systray's fault? |
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| 15:17.28 | ld50 | thiago_home, I didn't say that, but it happens with other applications too, sometimes, so it might be KDE's/Qt's fault |
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| 15:31.09 | ld50 | OxDeadC0de, are you using Qt 4.5? |
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| 15:32.15 | ld50 | I just updated to Qt4.5 and that arora/imageshack issue is now gone |
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| 15:34.35 | l0calh0s1 | i hate kde 4.2 :/ |
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| 15:35.01 | l0calh0s1 | there is no way to configure fonts by mine |
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| 15:35.13 | l0calh0s1 | on gnome fonts looks great |
| 15:35.19 | BeteNoire | it works for me |
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| 15:35.22 | l0calh0s1 | on kde terrible |
| 15:36.05 | l0calh0s1 | ugly fonts |
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| 15:36.05 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: what are you talking about? |
| 15:36.14 | ociomax | are you ever seen systemsetting -> appeareance -> fonts?? |
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| 15:36.18 | pielgrzym | hi peeps |
| 15:36.21 | l0calh0s1 | about fonts antyaliasing in kde 4 |
| 15:36.30 | l0calh0s1 | Right |
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| 15:36.41 | l0calh0s1 | pielgrzym: pielgrzymkujesz? |
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| 15:36.54 | pielgrzym | perhaps here someone will know the answer - kde 4.2 - after logging in (via exec startkde) I get an empty screen with checked backgroud :| |
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| 15:37.01 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: wkurwiam sie moja dystrybucja ;P |
| 15:37.07 | l0calh0s1 | ubuntu? |
| 15:37.15 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: gentoo |
| 15:37.15 | l0calh0s1 | kubuntu? :D |
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| 15:37.43 | l0calh0s1 | ah, then you should imho try change xorg.conf or install other version of drivers |
| 15:37.45 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: 11 jebanych godzin budowania kade (184 pakiety) i chuj a nie kde ;) |
| 15:37.47 | l0calh0s1 | *video |
| 15:37.58 | l0calh0s1 | pielgrzym: bo kde to chujstwo straszne |
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| 15:38.02 | l0calh0s1 | zaraz nas wyjebia :D |
| 15:38.04 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: well, all other wm's just work (awesome, xfce, openbox) |
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| 15:38.19 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: yup, I think so too, but I wanna new amarok ;) |
| 15:38.33 | l0calh0s1 | amarok2 sucks more than new kde ;P |
| 15:38.35 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: just for some c++ practicing ;) |
| 15:38.51 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: for now - yes :) it's not mature enought ;) |
| 15:39.08 | l0calh0s1 | also you can use windows to c++ |
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| 15:39.16 | l0calh0s1 | try mpd and sonata |
| 15:39.31 | l0calh0s1 | or ncmpc <3 |
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| 15:39.45 | l0calh0s1 | offtopic ;) |
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| 15:40.25 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: i want manualy set my configuration |
| 15:40.36 | l0calh0s1 | but its so hard for me |
| 15:40.38 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: oh how those suck. I don't wanna flame, but those are useless. nobody cares about queue managemen. collection browser is a shit etc |
| 15:40.55 | l0calh0s1 | :> |
| 15:40.56 | BeteNoire | straszne, kurwa |
| 15:41.11 | pielgrzym | BeteNoire: nie straszne - chujowe :] |
| 15:41.11 | l0calh0s1 | no, ze ja pierdole |
| 15:41.18 | pielgrzym | jak cale mpd |
| 15:41.21 | pielgrzym | ;) |
| 15:41.22 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: systemseetings -> appeareance -> fonts -> antialiased -> configure |
| 15:41.25 | pinotree | english please |
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| 15:41.28 | pielgrzym | ok |
| 15:42.01 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: yes, but i still gets fonts looking antoher from gnome's fonts |
| 15:42.21 | pielgrzym | ah, it seems to be plasma issue of some kind - when I run 'plasma' on plain openbox I get the stinking checked background :| |
| 15:42.24 | l0calh0s1 | on gnomei using cleartype and patcher for it |
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| 15:42.46 | l0calh0s1 | pielgrzym: remove openbox :) |
| 15:43.30 | pielgrzym | l0calh0s1: errr? you did not quite understand me :] |
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| 15:43.31 | l0calh0s1 | no |
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| 15:43.47 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: mine are ok, using Fedora 10 and KDE 4.2 |
| 15:43.51 | ociomax | under gnome too |
| 15:43.58 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: :/ |
| 15:44.01 | ociomax | i've changed DPI |
| 15:44.26 | ociomax | 120 PPP |
| 15:44.44 | l0calh0s1 | u never seen nice looking fonts :P |
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| 15:45.51 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: then show me some nice fonts |
| 15:45.55 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: that is my gnome looks: http://l0calhst.deviantart.com/art/Shot-200902073-112112928 |
| 15:46.44 | l0calh0s1 | Try compare this with kde default fonts antyaliasing settings. |
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| 15:47.08 | l0calh0s1 | try to |
| 15:47.08 | l0calh0s1 | ;d |
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| 15:47.51 | l0calh0s1 | Its old screen, now ive got better looking fonts :D |
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| 15:49.29 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: this is (was) my desktop http://flickr.com/photos/chgonzalez/2630435851/sizes/o/ |
| 15:49.29 | ociomax | now it's better :) |
| 15:49.29 | ociomax | for me, this fonts are ok |
| 15:49.43 | l0calh0s1 | :/ |
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| 15:49.47 | l0calh0s1 | i must sing up |
| 15:49.50 | l0calh0s1 | sign |
| 15:50.14 | ociomax | try http://flickr.com/photos/chgonzalez/2630435851/ |
| 15:50.26 | l0calh0s1 | Omg, for what they want my name.... |
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| 15:50.48 | lilltiger | yahoo is just stupid.. |
| 15:51.46 | lilltiger | and it blocks right klick to view the image as well.. and no enlarhge image.. |
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| 15:52.02 | lilltiger | why do people use that service.. it sucks |
| 15:52.02 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: so that is default fonts, and for me its looking... worse that my fonts settings |
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| 15:52.21 | l0calh0s1 | lilltiger: why peaople use nasza-klasa?! |
| 15:52.28 | l0calh0s1 | people |
| 15:52.34 | JackWinter | anyone else wanting to use more than 5 buttons with their mouse check out btnx. works great with evdev and kde. |
| 15:52.36 | l0calh0s1 | sorry for my mistakes, i am tired. |
| 15:53.00 | lilltiger | l0calh0s1: what is nasza-klasa? |
| 15:53.07 | l0calh0s1 | nasza-klasa.pl :D |
| 15:53.22 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: i don't understand what exactly do you want |
| 15:53.45 | ociomax | l0calh0s1: change the font? better antialiasing? what?? |
| 15:54.19 | l0calh0s1 | ociomax: fonts have some types of rendering/looking |
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| 15:55.00 | l0calh0s1 | and linux by default use not cleartype |
| 15:55.09 | lilltiger | use the dejavu fonts if you have an tft and want AA |
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| 15:55.20 | l0calh0s1 | so i want cleartype in kde4 |
| 15:55.28 | l0calh0s1 | but its impossible to get it. |
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| 15:56.02 | lilltiger | l0calh0s1: try the dejavu fonts |
| 15:56.29 | ociomax | http://sathyasays.com/2008/12/28/how-to-enabling-font-anti-aliasing-aka-cleartype-in-kde/ |
| 15:56.38 | l0calh0s1 | this is the same fonts like sand |
| 15:56.42 | l0calh0s1 | sans |
| 15:57.39 | lilltiger | dejavu looks better |
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| 15:58.21 | l0calh0s1 | lilltiger: antyaliasing is not "aka clearype" |
| 15:58.23 | l0calh0s1 | lol ;d |
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| 15:58.56 | l0calh0s1 | Its a way.. |
| 15:59.30 | lilltiger | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ClearType |
| 15:59.38 | lilltiger | if you want to know what it is.. |
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| 16:00.20 | oneforall | hi what is it I can run on an app.desktop to find out why its not working ? |
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| 16:00.42 | l0calh0s1 | " |
| 16:00.44 | l0calh0s1 | " |
| 16:00.46 | lilltiger | and KDE gives you that in it's AA settings for the fonts, and with the font DejaVu you get eaven better result then you get in windows |
| 16:00.52 | l0calh0s1 | " |
| 16:00.56 | oneforall | kde 3.5.9 |
| 16:01.03 | l0calh0s1 | Fuc. hotkeys |
| 16:01.22 | l0calh0s1 | lilltiger: that is one way to get antyaliasing |
| 16:01.28 | l0calh0s1 | - cleartype |
| 16:01.46 | l0calh0s1 | nvm ;) |
| 16:02.02 | oneforall | /usr/bin/update-desktop-database usr/share/applications this just showed me I had /usr/bin/update-desktop-database usr/share/applications >/dev/null 2>&1 O.o :) |
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| 16:10.27 | ld50_ | does qtcreator come with qt-copy? |
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| 16:11.32 | Jucato | afaik, no. it's shipped separately, like in Qt upstream |
| 16:12.13 | ld50_ | thanks |
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| 16:17.29 | Phoxis | hello |
| 16:17.44 | Phoxis | can anyone help me on a networkmanager and a system-config-network problem? |
| 16:17.48 | Phoxis | i went to #fedora |
| 16:18.01 | Phoxis | no one answered it , i waited for 2 hours |
| 16:18.17 | Phoxis | it is a simple problem, and it is as below |
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| 16:19.05 | Phoxis | i have configured an xDSL connection in fedora 10 with system-config-network and checked that it will not come up at boot time and also it will be controled with NetworkManager |
| 16:19.20 | Phoxis | but it doesnot shows in the network manager's DSL connection's list |
| 16:19.28 | Phoxis | what might the problem>? |
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| 16:22.32 | Phoxis | can anybody hear me |
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| 16:23.22 | Bou | Earth to Phoxis: we can hear you |
| 16:23.40 | Phoxis | thanks, i though i have some connection problem |
| 16:23.48 | Phoxis | :) |
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| 16:25.10 | Jejem | <Phoxis> i have configured an xDSL connection in fedora 10 with system-config-network and checked that it will not come up at boot time and also it will be controled with NetworkManager |
| 16:25.18 | Phoxis | ? |
| 16:25.21 | Jejem | mm |
| 16:25.39 | annew | Phoxis: wired connection? |
| 16:25.41 | Jejem | NetworkManager handles xDSL connections ? |
| 16:25.42 | Phoxis | ya |
| 16:25.45 | Phoxis | ADSL |
| 16:25.52 | Phoxis | i created an xDSL connection |
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| 16:26.01 | Phoxis | it should show under the DSL tab |
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| 16:26.30 | Phoxis | the eth0 is showing in which i configuered (the System eth0) from system-config-network |
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| 16:27.55 | annew | Phoxis: if NM is going to control it, it's better to edit the connection from the NM interface, IMO |
| 16:28.12 | Jejem | i agree with annew |
| 16:28.22 | Jejem | don't use fedora's tool at all |
| 16:28.28 | Phoxis | i agree too, but why is this happennig |
| 16:28.32 | Phoxis | that is the question |
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| 16:28.59 | Phoxis | i use neither nm nor systen-config-network, i use cmdline |
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| 16:29.08 | annew | NM works for my wifi |
| 16:29.17 | Phoxis | this is strange that the guide in fedora unity says doesnot works |
| 16:29.21 | Phoxis | work |
| 16:29.24 | Phoxis | for me |
| 16:29.30 | annew | s-c-n is probably best if you are using a static box but |
| 16:29.40 | annew | NM is good for laptops and roaming |
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| 16:30.00 | Phoxis | i have a ADSL connection with dynamic ip |
| 16:30.10 | Phoxis | so what can be the problem, ay idea? |
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| 16:30.21 | annew | so do lots of people :-) |
| 16:30.24 | annew | should be fine |
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| 16:30.39 | annew | either take out NM control |
| 16:30.45 | annew | or configure it in NM |
| 16:30.50 | annew | don't mix the two |
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| 16:31.00 | Phoxis | i want to mix, and thats the question |
| 16:31.09 | annew | why? |
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| 16:31.30 | annew | they have different strengths |
| 16:31.37 | annew | and weaknesses |
| 16:31.38 | Phoxis | i can create a connection through pppoe-setup , system-config-network, and nm , and connect separately |
| 16:31.52 | Phoxis | but using s-c-n with nm dont work |
| 16:32.09 | Phoxis | they should have compatibility |
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| 16:32.25 | oneforall | hey when I use the edit menu in my user account shouldn't the app.descktop goto ~/.kde/share/applnk/? |
| 16:33.55 | annma | when you add an entry? |
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| 16:34.19 | alpha_one_x86 | hello, I have a question, what's about wifi and kde 4.2 ? |
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| 16:34.39 | annma | alpha_one_x86: most distros have their own wifi tools |
| 16:34.54 | annma | if not, they should |
| 16:34.59 | Jucato | oneforall: afaik no. KDE follows the fd.o spec on menus. so they go to ~/.local/share/applications/ |
| 16:35.31 | oneforall | ah thanks . why is it some are put in that link I said ? |
| 16:35.31 | Jucato | leaves the world to annma |
| 16:35.37 | alpha_one_x86 | yes but I search unifed and integrated wifi tool for kde 4.2 (like wlassistant or like in windows XP) |
| 16:35.37 | annma | hey Jucato |
| 16:35.42 | annma | don't leave me!!! |
| 16:35.58 | annma | alpha_one_x86: what for? |
| 16:36.12 | oneforall | is it like the default go there and the ones the user makes goto .local |
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| 16:36.23 | Jucato | oneforall: not really sure if applnk is still used (or officially recommended)... |
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| 16:36.27 | annma | are you constantly moving and connecting to free wifis? |
| 16:36.33 | Jucato | anyway.. gone... |
| 16:37.17 | alpha_one_x86 | For have graphical tool, the iwconfig is in all distro, and I want/should have GUI tools in KDE in system setting for begginner |
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| 16:37.40 | oneforall | Exec[$e]=kompozer made it with this but the org one I have errors out and never shows up in the menu |
| 16:37.46 | alpha_one_x86 | And for me: don't use iwconfig in cl |
| 16:37.54 | annma | alpha_one_x86: what distro are you using? |
| 16:37.58 | alpha_one_x86 | gentoo |
| 16:38.08 | annma | ah that explains |
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| 16:39.16 | alpha_one_x86 | annma: But I thinks for (it's in spirit of KDE 4) don't change soft between all disto who use 4.2 have unified tool |
| 16:39.43 | annma | personally I don't think it as a part of a desktop |
| 16:39.51 | annma | I see it as a distro tool |
| 16:40.01 | dashcloud | hi, has anyone else successfully compiled+used the mplayer phonon backend here: http://code.google.com/p/phonon-vlc-mplayer/ |
| 16:40.07 | annma | knetworkmanager will come soon for you however alpha_one_x86 |
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| 16:40.33 | alpha_one_x86 | Not me, KDE integraten webbrowser, ... network ethernet tool but NOT wifi tools? |
| 16:40.39 | pinotree | dashcloud: #videolan |
| 16:40.54 | annma | just do it alpha_one_x86 |
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| 16:41.02 | annma | we provide what we do |
| 16:41.25 | alpha_one_x86 | I work on avdanced copier for KDE4 (ultracopier), I can't all do |
| 16:41.36 | annma | what module is that in? |
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| 16:42.03 | alpha_one_x86 | what? |
| 16:42.15 | annma | your code |
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| 16:42.52 | oneforall | Could not parse file '/usr/share/applications/kompozer.desktop': Invalid key name: Exec[$e] strange user makes it with that but global its a nono eh O.o |
| 16:42.52 | alpha_one_x86 | not included in the main line, for near... |
| 16:43.03 | annma | ah OK |
| 16:43.17 | annma | the network thing is in playground somewhere, check it out |
| 16:43.22 | alpha_one_x86 | for next week I hope |
| 16:43.26 | annma | and ask for wifi if not |
| 16:43.42 | alpha_one_x86 | ok, on kde bugs? |
| 16:43.46 | annma | as I said my distro has tools for all that so I did not check it |
| 16:43.55 | annma | ah no |
| 16:44.00 | annma | directly to the devels |
| 16:44.05 | pinotree | the network management gui actually do manages wireless.... |
| 16:44.09 | annma | kde bugs is overkill for stuff in playground |
| 16:44.12 | annma | ahhh |
| 16:44.26 | annma | I thought so but was not sure |
| 16:44.40 | annma | alpha_one_x86: just check it out |
| 16:44.41 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: no or where? |
| 16:44.48 | annma | it's in working state |
| 16:44.59 | pinotree | ? |
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| 16:45.08 | alpha_one_x86 | annme: oki, then it's planned for KDE 4.3? |
| 16:45.17 | annma | alpha_one_x86: probably in playground/network go have a look through websvn |
| 16:45.24 | annma | and get it |
| 16:45.31 | pinotree | no, playground/base/networkmanager |
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| 16:45.58 | annma | ah yes |
| 16:46.10 | Half-Left | Network manager for KDE4.x is actually in some distros that are in dev mode, i.e Kubuntu |
| 16:46.12 | pinotree | alpha_one_x86: i don't understand your question; but, NetworkManager manages wireless as well |
| 16:46.28 | oneforall | weird now I remove [$e] and rerun /usr/bin/update-desktop-database -v /usr/share/applications and it not even showing up :( |
| 16:46.31 | alpha_one_x86 | and about the stable version? I thinks it's ok in KDE 4.3? no? |
| 16:47.29 | Half-Left | Well yes because it's being used in distros right now during there testing, so yes |
| 16:47.37 | Half-Left | their* |
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| 16:47.39 | spicausis | there's this weird problem with recent trunk of kde which I can't figure out; basically nothing really would like to start from the krunner (alt-f2), e.g. dolphin won't run. in the same time, when started from console or application menu, it starts just fine |
| 16:48.08 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: yes but no avaible under gentoo for kde 4.X, and in pannel we can see all for manage the ethernet connexion but no for the wifi, the begginer thinks (I thinks) check it in system setting -> network settings |
| 16:49.12 | pinotree | alpha_one_x86: you're confusing things, as NetworkManager is NOT that control center module |
| 16:50.00 | spicausis | if I run "dolphin 2>/tmp/err" it shows a reasonable debug log, nothing about missing libs or anything I could expect |
| 16:50.10 | oneforall | darn making a app.desktop file for the packages some times works and sometimes it just wont show up in the menu O.o |
| 16:50.41 | oneforall | try looking at other ones and it looks right too |
| 16:51.15 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/3nYOeM19.html |
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| 16:52.04 | pinotree | oneforall: it has no categories |
| 16:52.44 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: no I have see that's, but i thinks KDE should have module in network setting for wiki like modules wired network |
| 16:53.16 | pinotree | alpha_one_x86: do you read what i said before, or not? |
| 16:53.32 | pinotree | do you know knetworkmanager? |
| 16:53.38 | Half-Left | alpha_one_x86: As I said, some distros backport this already, it maybe part of 4.3, maybe |
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| 16:55.04 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: yes I know, but I prefered modules in system setting pannel |
| 16:55.26 | pinotree | and some people don't |
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| 16:57.39 | alpha_one_x86 | Yes but for people we want, it's planned (as second solution) ... it's that's my wish and question |
| 16:57.57 | pinotree | we cannot have everything just people want everything |
| 16:58.06 | pinotree | something has sense, and something else no |
| 16:58.51 | Half-Left | Some people choose to listen to what they want as well |
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| 16:58.56 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/ljzdq951.html tried like this and still nope O.o |
| 16:59.40 | oneforall | /usr/bin/update-desktop-database -v and no error and its not listing |
| 17:00.00 | alpha_one_x86 | pinotree: do you thinks if I develop the module it's can be include in the main line, or I need do that's just for me (or as external packet)? |
| 17:00.03 | pinotree | oneforall: forget update-desktop-database, it has nothing to do |
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| 17:04.31 | bo0ts__ | Hi, I use KDE 4.2 on arch64. Some apps behave strange. For example Akregator can't archive feeds and starts up with "unable to loadstorage backend plugin "". no feeds archived". Any ideas where to look for solutions? |
| 17:04.35 | annma | beginners do not use Gentoo anyway |
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| 17:04.43 | oneforall | darn one stuborn thing :( |
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| 17:06.29 | JKac3BEq | hi, i have a lot of text files that i need to quickly scan through and delete if necessary. does anyone know of a program that works like that? |
| 17:06.49 | JKac3BEq | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.50 | bo0ts__ | grep + rm |
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| 17:07.33 | pae | hello |
| 17:07.49 | Phoxis | is there any book on qt4 programming except C++ GUI Programming with Qt 4 |
| 17:07.55 | annma | lots |
| 17:07.58 | pae | how do I set options for kde3 programs from kde4? |
| 17:08.00 | annma | google |
| 17:08.06 | pae | programs like amarok and krusader? |
| 17:08.20 | annma | pae: you run kde3 kcontrol |
| 17:08.31 | annma | depends what options |
| 17:08.42 | annma | app-specific options are in app config dialog |
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| 17:08.55 | oneforall | annma whats is it I need to run for it to show up in the menu . I even tried the update tool and its not finding it(global kompozer.desktop) |
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| 17:09.08 | thiago_home | pae: each program has its own configuration dialog |
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| 17:09.22 | thiago_home | pae: for KDE-global settings, use the KDE-global programs. In KDE3's case, that's kcontrol. |
| 17:09.25 | pae | hmm, I don't have that in my distro... I want to set doubleclik for opening files in amarok files tab, and disable the hand icon when over a directory in krusader |
| 17:09.39 | annma | oneforall: ? |
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| 17:09.56 | annma | oneforall: I did not follow your question |
| 17:10.27 | oneforall | well its installed to /usr/share/applications/kompozer.desktop but its not showing in the menu |
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| 17:11.15 | annma | oneforall: did you run kbuildsycoca? |
| 17:11.19 | annma | is it kde3 or 4? |
| 17:11.24 | annma | is lost* |
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| 17:14.03 | alpha_one_x86 | annma: sorry, yes but it's for go too way no specific distro desktop, imagine wifi tools of windows XP under KDE, it's not serious, it's like firefox with engine and settings ie |
| 17:14.55 | oneforall | yeah just did and still its no where on the menu |
| 17:15.00 | oneforall | 3.5.9 |
| 17:15.09 | alpha_one_x86 | And if i do the crasy (I'm french sorry for my english), no solid needed because it's distro specific, same for bluetooth, for pluged in device, .... |
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| 17:15.21 | annma | oneforall: explain from beginning: what's kde-config --prefix and what do you install |
| 17:15.52 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:16.10 | annma | alpha_one_x86: just check this knetworkmanager and if you don't like it, write the devels |
| 17:16.16 | vbgunz | what exactly is happening when you click on "suspend to ram" in kickoff? whats being called? |
| 17:16.18 | oneforall | kompozer |
| 17:16.19 | annma | emails in all files |
| 17:16.22 | thiago_home | vbgunz: HAL |
| 17:16.33 | annma | oneforall: kompozer: what is that |
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| 17:16.52 | oneforall | like nvu with bug fixes |
| 17:17.03 | vbgunz | thiago_home: I guess what I am after is how do I change what it does or tweak what it does? e.g., /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh ... is the file to be tweaked in there? |
| 17:17.07 | annma | so you compiled it? |
| 17:17.07 | oneforall | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:17.15 | alpha_one_x86 | annma: yes it's configure the wifi, but it's not in KDE |
| 17:17.28 | annma | alpha_one_x86: it is in KDE |
| 17:17.34 | annma | it's in the making |
| 17:17.35 | oneforall | yes . just having trouble getting the desktop file to work and have it show up inthe menu |
| 17:17.42 | annma | do you think things are done magically? |
| 17:18.06 | annma | oneforall: pastebin the desktop file |
| 17:18.17 | alpha_one_x86 | annma: ok, I don't konw that's. If it's included in KDE it's perfect |
| 17:18.30 | thiago_home | vbgunz: not a KDE question. You need to ask HAL people. |
| 17:18.41 | annma | alpha_one_x86: it's in the process of being included |
| 17:18.45 | alpha_one_x86 | (I have need just do the right module for system setting and it's all) |
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| 17:19.00 | vbgunz | thiago_home: ok, what do I need to do to tweak what the actual kickoff menu option does/. |
| 17:19.20 | thiago_home | vbgunz: talk to HAL people. |
| 17:19.26 | alpha_one_x86 | and about k3b or other package for burn? In progress to include? |
| 17:20.12 | pinotree | k3b is not part of kde releases, and its author asked so |
| 17:20.48 | Half-Left | Burning cd/dvd, so stone age :p |
| 17:20.50 | vbgunz | thiago_home: I understand that... I can change all the shortcuts except for those, etc. is there a file to change what those links do now? |
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| 17:21.04 | thiago_home | vbgunz: those aren't links. Those are system calls to HAL. |
| 17:21.15 | thiago_home | vbgunz: they are hardcoded as system calls |
| 17:21.26 | alpha_one_x86 | ok, thanks for all |
| 17:21.38 | vbgunz | ahh. damn ... |
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| 17:22.39 | oneforall | not even showing up in an other user acount |
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| 17:23.26 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/D94d6X76.html |
| 17:23.43 | Phoxis | suggestion needed: should i start learning Qt4 or wait for Qt5 |
| 17:24.55 | Half-Left | Start learning Qt4.x |
| 17:24.58 | thiago_home | Phoxis: that depends. How long can you wait? |
| 17:25.05 | Half-Left | hehe |
| 17:25.17 | thiago_home | if you can wait 3-5 years or more, wait for Qt 5 |
| 17:25.20 | Phoxis | if the syntax differs too much then it would be a problem |
| 17:25.34 | Phoxis | oh , 3 - 5 years |
| 17:25.38 | Phoxis | then i will start Qt4 |
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| 17:26.46 | annma | where is this Kompozer from? url? |
| 17:26.51 | annma | oneforall: ^^ |
| 17:27.00 | annma | sounds really badly done |
| 17:27.15 | annma | icon path hardcoded in .desktop file!!! |
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| 17:28.33 | oneforall | they don't have one . I have that in audacity.desktop and others and they all work . |
| 17:28.41 | annma | ouch |
| 17:28.45 | oneforall | http://kompozer.net/download.php |
| 17:28.48 | annma | so that explain |
| 17:28.50 | annma | s |
| 17:29.01 | oneforall | why is it one doesn't :) |
| 17:29.12 | annma | I suggest you get a KDE desktop file as template |
| 17:29.34 | annma | why is it one doesn't??? |
| 17:31.00 | blip- | hi all, my system has become slow recently so what I did was create a new user account and I started copying over only specific config files. I copied over .evolution and some of the kde configs for Amarok. for some reason this is having no effect at all... when I start evolution or Amarok on my new user account they give me the new user welcome screen as if they don't see my configs. what's happening ? thanks |
| 17:31.06 | blip- | I use KDE3 btw |
| 17:32.20 | annma | oneforall: next time you'll explain straight away that you made up the desktop file |
| 17:32.48 | oneforall | ok I got it looks like it was StartupNotify=False had true |
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| 17:33.09 | oneforall | and I took out Application from Categories=Development; |
| 17:33.20 | annma | do not hardcode icon path |
| 17:33.25 | oneforall | I did at the beginning |
| 17:33.34 | NoirSoldats | Hello all, I'm using KDE4.2, having a problem with sounds not playing in IM clients (Kopete or Pidgin) all the time.. Sometimes they work, most of the time they don't.. they seem to work more reliably if I've freshly booted the system and haven't played other sounds yet.. but once I start my audio player or play a video or website audio they don't work anymore in the IM client.. Seems to me like a multiplexing issue. |
| 17:33.45 | oneforall | why ? that works |
| 17:33.53 | annma | that works for you |
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| 17:34.07 | annma | if it's only on your system OK but not for distribution |
| 17:34.43 | annma | that told me it was a fishy file |
| 17:36.33 | oneforall | ok where is somethign that explains the Categories part . All you can use in there and where it'll end up . like if your making the package so its will show up in a kde menu system or a gnome etc |
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| 17:40.01 | annma | freedesktop.org |
| 17:40.11 | annma | they have the standard specs |
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| 17:43.29 | oneforall | shouldn't that be at kde some where for the basic app.desktop files |
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| 17:44.34 | blip- | hi, is .kde/share/apps/amarok the only place where amarok config files are stored ?? I copied over that directory to a new user account but I just get a default amarok when I start it up. must I restart the system |
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| 17:46.34 | tstaerk | blip-, look if there is a .kde4 |
| 17:46.46 | tstaerk | he? |
| 17:47.04 | tstaerk | share/config/amarokrc - does it exist? |
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| 17:47.29 | tstaerk | and /usr/share/config/amarokrc (system-wide) |
| 17:47.41 | tstaerk | or /usr/local/share ... |
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| 17:48.27 | blip- | tstaerk: I'm in kde 3 |
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| 17:50.19 | blip- | tstaerk: thanks that worked |
| 17:50.30 | tstaerk | is happy |
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| 18:00.20 | the_p | hello. why does kmail not show the priority of the emails? |
| 18:01.18 | cubas | hi, is there any way how could I set size of app icons in taskbar panel? the icons next to the kde button |
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| 18:02.08 | cubas | they are too big and too far from each other, but I can't find any settings for this |
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| 18:03.21 | lucas__ | cubas: KDE version please |
| 18:03.28 | cubas | 3.5 |
| 18:03.45 | cubas | 3.5.10 |
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| 18:06.36 | lucas__ | cubas: they take the size of the panel.. |
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| 18:08.53 | cubas | lucas__, I've got the panel size for having two rows of windows in taskbar, which is essential for me |
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| 18:09.49 | lucas__ | cubas: so if you want the icons to be smaller you can add a kpanel applet |
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| 18:10.05 | lucas__ | cubas: to place icons in it |
| 18:10.15 | lucas__ | then change its settings |
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| 18:14.47 | cubas | thank you |
| 18:15.43 | lucas__ | cubas: yw |
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| 18:16.40 | Kenjiro | guys, I tried this question this morning but didn't get any response. So I try again now: Shouldn't Quanta+ come with kdewebdev? |
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| 18:17.18 | pinotree | quanta is not ported to kde4 yet |
| 18:17.44 | NTAuthority | oh, oops, wrong channel |
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| 18:19.40 | lucas__ | the_p: version please |
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| 18:20.46 | the_p | lucas__: kde 4.2.0 |
| 18:21.04 | the_p | lucas__: kmail 1.11.0 |
| 18:21.10 | lucas__ | the_p: not implemented |
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| 18:21.39 | lucas__ | the_p: (yet) |
| 18:21.56 | the_p | lucas__: ok. thanks for the info. |
| 18:22.03 | lucas__ | the_p: yw |
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| 18:24.13 | tuxick | what's the story with kmail popping up kwallet dialog on another desktop, i believe sometimes even under other windows? |
| 18:24.24 | tuxick | not to first time i think it simply crashed |
| 18:24.46 | NTAuthority | does kontact 4.2 (or whichever is the latest) still look as cluttered like 3.5? |
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| 18:27.14 | sparr | how can I make kde listen to mouse buttons and the keyboard to keep the screensaver at bay, instead of just mouse movement? |
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| 18:32.59 | [mors] | hi folks |
| 18:33.28 | [mors] | in which files does KDE4 store the current locale (the user chooses in the system settings) and in which file does KDE4 store file type associations ? |
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| 18:44.55 | Kenjiro | pinotree: aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah thanks (about quanta) |
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| 19:03.15 | josh-l | hi, trying to use plasma theme glassified, the panel isnt that whiteish clear that it should be... help? |
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| 19:08.08 | NoirSoldats | Hello all, I'm using KDE4.2, having a problem with sounds not playing in IM clients (Kopete or Pidgin) all the time.. Sometimes they work, most of the time they don't.. they seem to work more reliably if I've freshly booted the system and haven't played other sounds yet.. but once I start my audio player or play a video or website audio they don't work anymore in the IM client.. Seems to me like a multiplexing issue. |
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| 19:22.14 | UnixOne | hi |
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| 19:22.30 | cumulus007 | how to show an each monitor another workspace? |
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| 19:23.02 | hagabaka | ugh, some widgets get squeezed by other widgets when they're placed in the same panel |
| 19:23.07 | UnixOne | I've just compiled the latest kernel 2.6.28.7 and it's very speedy and works well. But I've got an error in the console when typing dmesg. I don't know if I should consider this as harmfull or not.. |
| 19:23.09 | UnixOne | I've got no error in $dmesg except nepomukservices[4955]: segfault at 4 ip b7d4d7e2 sp bfb53db0 error 4 in libQtCore.so.4.4.3[b7cfa000+225000] And I've read that it has something to do with java.. maybe it's gone on the next reboot.. |
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| 19:23.26 | hagabaka | it would be nice if widgets in panels can be positioned and sized freely like on the desktop |
| 19:23.31 | cumulus007 | UnixOne: my nepomuk crashes here all the time |
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| 19:24.17 | UnixOne | cumulus007: which version of nepmuk do you have? |
| 19:24.19 | Half-Left | cumulus007: 64bit? |
| 19:24.28 | cumulus007 | 64bit |
| 19:24.32 | UnixOne | howto check the status of nepomuk? |
| 19:24.37 | Half-Left | Ahhh, it's your java then |
| 19:24.50 | UnixOne | yes, that's what I read .. |
| 19:24.58 | UnixOne | maybe related to openjdk |
| 19:25.04 | UnixOne | or sun-java |
| 19:25.06 | cumulus007 | I have Sun's stuff |
| 19:25.10 | UnixOne | that's why |
| 19:25.14 | cumulus007 | erhm, do I? |
| 19:25.25 | UnixOne | at least. that's what I've read on google... |
| 19:25.35 | cumulus007 | yes, I do |
| 19:25.53 | Half-Left | wonders why his windows dont focus on click anymore and only focus on clicking the window boarder |
| 19:26.00 | UnixOne | cumulus007: you can uninstall sun-java and install openjdk to see if the error is gone. (use the 64bit version) |
| 19:26.08 | cumulus007 | I dislike openjdk |
| 19:26.25 | UnixOne | cumulus007: if the error is gone, try to install sun-java again and see if it's related to that problem |
| 19:26.27 | cumulus007 | and I'm not dependent of java, so I'll wait until it gets fixed ;) |
| 19:26.30 | UnixOne | cumulus007: me too |
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| 19:26.51 | UnixOne | UnixOne: I'm dependant of it ;) I'm coding java apps. |
| 19:26.58 | Half-Left | Seasame backend in 32bit works fine with Java |
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| 19:28.28 | UnixOne | Half-Left: I have 32-bit |
| 19:28.48 | Half-Left | Should be working fine then really |
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| 19:29.31 | UnixOne | I will reboot and see if the error is gone. If not uninstall sun-java. reboot.. if not install openjdk see if the error is gone and report back here ;) |
| 19:30.05 | UnixOne | reboot is very fast now. maybe due to the new kernel. Or due to my slim installation with Ubuntu-terminal-server-cd |
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| 19:30.31 | UnixOne | will reboot. cu |
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| 19:40.44 | UnixOne | All errors fixed :) |
| 19:41.28 | UnixOne | I just disabled #kernel.maps_protect = 1 |
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| 19:42.42 | UnixOne | cumulus007: I've no more a problem with nepomuk :P |
| 19:42.48 | cumulus007 | I see |
| 19:42.55 | cumulus007 | I'm too lazy to reboot my computer |
| 19:43.16 | UnixOne | cumulus007: maybe it's fixed due to the reboot or due to the variable I disabled in /etc/sysctl.d/10-process-security.conf |
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| 19:53.58 | sub___ | hibread, can someone help me with a k3b issue? It won't read some of my .cue files although they seem correct to me. error message "seems not to be a usable image"...how can I get a more detailed error? what doesnt the parser like in my cue file? |
| 19:54.02 | sub___ | hi I mean |
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| 20:03.39 | hagabaka | what is the "internal extender container" widget? |
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| 20:06.35 | Ace2017_- | is it possible to make kde4 write all configs when they are changed? |
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| 20:07.02 | Ace2017_- | something locked up and i lost most of my kde config, plasma, konversation and kwin settings are gnome |
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| 20:08.24 | gohmifune | what's responsible for power management under 4.2? |
| 20:09.07 | PuffTheMagic | is there a way to enabled composite in kwin with out going to system settings -> desktop |
| 20:09.15 | PuffTheMagic | is there a cli command or atext tile i can edit? |
| 20:10.02 | hagabaka | there's a plasma applet called "Toggle Compositing", in ubuntu the package plasma-widget-toggle-compositing |
| 20:10.31 | hagabaka | you can probably do it from command line with dbus, but i don't know the command |
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| 20:10.53 | gohmifune | are their any known notification issues with power management? |
| 20:11.41 | lastofthewolves | ne problems here |
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| 20:13.22 | gohmifune | lastofthewolves: are you on a desktop or a laptop? |
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| 20:14.08 | lastofthewolves | gohmufune: I'm on a HP Compaq laptop |
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| 20:15.45 | call_me_K | I'm so sorry |
| 20:16.41 | gohmifune | lastofthewolves: do you know off hand, what percentages you warning messages appear? |
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| 20:18.01 | jad4 | hi guys |
| 20:18.28 | jad4 | I can't login on the dot using my gmail username |
| 20:18.29 | lastofthewolves | gohmifune: 15,10 and 5 I gueass |
| 20:18.39 | jad4 | is openID login supposed to be working? |
| 20:18.54 | jad4 | or are not all gmail addresses valide opnID logins |
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| 20:19.17 | jad4 | or do I need to do something for my gmail address to be a valid openID login.... |
| 20:19.18 | jad4 | ? |
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| 20:21.20 | gohmifune | lastofthewolves: I'll tray those, my warning messages were later, and just suspect that it thinks my batteries are dropping out to early or something. Thanks |
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| 20:23.00 | ulath | hmm.. hat jemand ne ahnung wo sich der kmix in kde4.2 startet? bei mir öffnet er sich nach jedem login. jedoch ist im autostartordner nix zu finden und es wird immer eine leere session geladen |
| 20:23.17 | ulath | und er soll sich nicht öffnen :) |
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| 20:23.50 | lastofthewolves | ulath: und warum nicht? |
| 20:24.54 | drostie | Does anyone know how to get KDE 4.2's network management settings to work with the Eduroam network? |
| 20:25.00 | ulath | weil ich den hdspmixer meiner rme multiface II benutze |
| 20:25.09 | ulath | mit jack |
| 20:25.43 | cubas | is it possible to configure taskbar and system tray applets ? |
| 20:25.49 | ulath | und es nervt den jedes mal weg zu klicken |
| 20:25.52 | cubas | icon size etc. |
| 20:25.53 | kdepepo | #kde-de ? |
| 20:26.01 | cubas | kde 3.5.10 |
| 20:26.03 | pinotree | #kde.de for german talking |
| 20:26.11 | pinotree | otherwise, english here |
| 20:26.40 | drostie | cubas: other than by right clicking them, not so much. |
| 20:27.15 | drostie | At the very least, is there online documentation for the new Network Manager? |
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| 20:28.02 | cubas | drostie, rightclicking throws entire panel configuration options...not for the particular applet...quick launcher has got it's own right-clicking menu |
| 20:28.53 | drostie | cubas: if you right click e.g. the system panel, you should get an entry saying "System Tray Settings...", which is what I was referring to. |
| 20:29.54 | drostie | But if you're trying to get it to stop automatically filling up space, good luck. There's no spacer widget in KDE 4.2 by default, and I found it very difficult to compile the ones at KDE-Look.org. |
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| 20:30.05 | cubas | drostie, so that's might be kde >4 feature...nothing like this on 3.5 |
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| 20:30.19 | drostie | Ah, yes, sorry. |
| 20:30.55 | drostie | You said so clearly, but I somehow missed it. My apologies. ^^;; |
| 20:31.13 | cubas | I wouldn't mind, but t is the last part where icons are too big, last part I need to change... |
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| 20:35.44 | csgeek | is there an amarok build for windows at this point? .. if so. how stable is it? |
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| 20:39.31 | call_me_K | I run 0% windows, but last I knew Amarok 1.x was ported to windows and ran perfectly |
| 20:40.38 | call_me_K | I don't think 2.x has been do to a lack of interest as far as project maintainance goes, but I could be wrong. Maybe you should just read the Amarok web site? |
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| 20:42.04 | lastofthewolves | csgeek: check http://amarok.kde.org/wiki/Download:Windows or windows.kde.org |
| 20:42.53 | drostie | :-/ so nobody knows of any documentation source for the 4.2 network management? |
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| 20:45.12 | call_me_K | docs.kde.org???? |
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| 20:46.28 | Bekir | Hi EveryBody |
| 20:47.28 | Half-Left | droog62: What network manager would that be? |
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| 20:50.28 | drostie | Half-Left: The new one in KDE 4.2. The "Network Management" plasmoid that acts as a partial frontend to the GNOME network-manager package and stores its settings at ~/.kde/share/{apps,config}/networkmanagement. |
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| 20:51.09 | Half-Left | droog62: There is no such thing that comes with 4.2 |
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| 20:51.44 | call_me_K | there is a knetworkmanager plasmoid |
| 20:52.07 | drostie | I'm not talking about knetworkmanager, but yes, that exists too. |
| 20:52.12 | drostie | Broken as it is. |
| 20:52.13 | call_me_K | last I'd heard it was a WIP and last I tried it it was obviously so |
| 20:52.14 | Half-Left | Not with 4.2 |
| 20:52.33 | Half-Left | If you have it's from your distro |
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| 20:53.59 | Half-Left | Kubuntu alpha ships with the network manager plasmoid |
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| 20:54.28 | Half-Left | Has nothing to do with the official 4.2 release |
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| 20:55.17 | call_me_K | network manager is also availalbe in suse's kde factory repos, but once again it's not a part of kde 4.2 |
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| 20:55.43 | ruediger | hi |
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| 20:57.21 | call_me_K | as a unreleased WIP it may not have docs. As a part of kde-docs, I can assure you it's not on the TODO to write one so it's probably not anywhere near ready for release |
| 20:57.27 | ruediger | I have a problem with KDM. I want KDM to run ~/XSession or xinitrc when I log in. The documentation says that there should be session called "Custom" to do that. But there is no such session type and it's not hidden as far as I can see (and even unhiding it didn't work). How can I use "custom" as a session type or is there another way to make kdm run xsession/xinitrc? |
| 20:57.31 | call_me_K | or it's a 3rd party plasmoid |
| 20:58.01 | ruediger | (I'm using KDE from Kubuntu 8.10 backports. so it's a KDE 4.2) |
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| 21:01.53 | drostie | blah. |
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| 21:02.15 | Half-Left | ruediger: xinitrc is used by startx command to load the DE |
| 21:02.46 | ruediger | yes |
| 21:03.06 | ruediger | but I want to use KDM and not start x from the terminal :) |
| 21:03.20 | call_me_K | xinintrc is started via rc, not kdm. details I can't provide you with as I run openSUSE witch uses init.d instead of rc for runtime control, but neverthelessKDM doesn't "run" xinitrc, it's started by the runlevel control in rl5 |
| 21:03.21 | Half-Left | ok |
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| 21:03.34 | drostie | Half-Left: ok. Found the trunk/playground page for it. You're right, then. |
| 21:03.41 | Half-Left | What do you want to do exactly?, login to where? |
| 21:04.01 | Half-Left | drostie: I know I was :p |
| 21:04.10 | ruediger | i want to login as a normal user and KDM to run ~/.xsession |
| 21:04.19 | ruediger | and not to start KDE or anything else :) |
| 21:04.36 | Half-Left | So you want to login with just a terminal? |
| 21:04.40 | call_me_K | ruediger: you're saying you want a KDM login at boottime vs the command line? |
| 21:05.07 | ruediger | Half-Left: no. the xsession starts the window manager I want to use |
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| 21:05.45 | Half-Left | kde safemode doesn't run anything, just a terminal if you want to know |
| 21:05.50 | ruediger | http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-workspace/kdm/different-window-managers-with-kdm.html <-- I want the "custom" type. But it's not in the session type menu |
| 21:06.17 | call_me_K | you want a full graphical, network supported, multiuser environment, aka runlevel 5 |
| 21:06.43 | call_me_K | ummm.... oh |
| 21:07.15 | call_me_K | I have that option |
| 21:07.28 | flabr | hi there...i run kde 4.1 with suse 11.1 and compiz fusion...dont know why but in Configure Desktop --> Display --> Refresh is set to 50Hz instead of Auto...if I change to Auto and then save...when I go back there is 50 Hz again...any ideas why i cannot save as Auto? |
| 21:07.49 | call_me_K | don't know how to traslate it from suse "sysconfig" to "normal linux" though |
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| 21:09.24 | DarkMac | i`m using kde 4.2.0 and at login screen (xdm) is see my name and right beside the username |
| 21:09.24 | call_me_K | not to mention I never use it |
| 21:09.42 | DarkMac | how can i put it back as was before |
| 21:09.49 | DarkMac | to show only the name |
| 21:10.02 | Half-Left | We dont support xdm |
| 21:10.19 | call_me_K | what he said ^^ |
| 21:10.47 | DarkMac | do you support kdm ? |
| 21:10.48 | DarkMac | :) |
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| 21:10.55 | call_me_K | kdm is fully themable via KDE control center |
| 21:11.05 | Half-Left | Well yer, ofcourse :p |
| 21:11.20 | call_me_K | set up KDM, and you can easily tweak it to your heart's desire. |
| 21:11.49 | DarkMac | ready |
| 21:11.51 | DarkMac | kdm4 |
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| 21:14.03 | ruediger | hmm I guess I'll just create my own session type, then. |
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| 21:19.09 | DarkMac | back |
| 21:19.21 | DarkMac | i still cant get rid of that thing |
| 21:19.23 | DarkMac | :) |
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| 21:20.11 | tsb | I'm 99.99999% certain this can't be done, but here goes; is it possible to kwin to somehow remember which firefox-window was on which desktop? I usually have 3 firefox windows, each on different desktops. I have to distribute them myself on every startup.. |
| 21:21.34 | Half-Left | DarkMac: You mean you want to use KDM instead of xdm? |
| 21:22.06 | DarkMac | tsb: right click a window toolbar-click advanced then choose special application settings |
| 21:22.34 | DarkMac | click desktop...then choose remember from combo list |
| 21:22.42 | DarkMac | and then choose desktop number |
| 21:23.02 | DarkMac | Half-Left: lool... no no... i know how to do that |
| 21:23.18 | kdepepo | tsb, make sure you differentiate the windows somehow... by title etc. |
| 21:23.23 | DarkMac | i dont even know how to explain (not a native english speaker) |
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| 21:23.38 | DarkMac | tsb: read above |
| 21:23.45 | DarkMac | Half-Left: in kdm |
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| 21:24.11 | DarkMac | i have the Name and also the username displayed sidebyside |
| 21:24.34 | DarkMac | something like : DarkMacdarkmac |
| 21:24.46 | DarkMac | before...there was only DarkMac |
| 21:25.07 | DarkMac | it was only the name displayed in that list |
| 21:25.20 | Half-Left | Right |
| 21:25.29 | DarkMac | now i have the name AND the username displayed |
| 21:25.38 | DarkMac | how do i revert that? |
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| 21:26.07 | DarkMac | did you understood my issue Half-Left? |
| 21:26.09 | Half-Left | Customize the login manager in systemsettings |
| 21:26.59 | DarkMac | how? cause every settings i do there it doesnt change anything.... |
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| 21:27.15 | DarkMac | i`ve unchecked Use theme greeter |
| 21:27.28 | Half-Left | Not sure then |
| 21:27.29 | DarkMac | i`ve choosed a gui style |
| 21:27.33 | DarkMac | a gui theme |
| 21:27.43 | DarkMac | but it doesnt apply tem |
| 21:27.45 | DarkMac | them |
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| 21:27.59 | Half-Left | Maybe it's the theme itself |
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| 21:28.51 | tsb | DarkMac, right, I know that, however won't that just force all 3 firefox windows on some desktop? I want 3 different firefox windows on 3 different desktops! and they all have a dynamic title.. |
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| 21:40.04 | ByteMe_ | hello all |
| 21:41.33 | ByteMe_ | Trying fedora 10, I just made the switch from kubuntu |
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| 21:43.00 | blip- | hi all, can the KDE3 panel be run outside of KDE ? I want to run it inside openbox as it's the best panel I've found so far |
| 21:43.23 | boom1992 | yeah |
| 21:43.27 | boom1992 | just start kicker |
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| 21:44.53 | ByteMe_ | I just went to change the theme from Oxygen to Elegance and the kicker vanashed |
| 21:44.59 | ByteMe_ | any way to get it back? |
| 21:45.36 | blip- | boom1992: ok that worked, I'm pretty surprised though with the low memory usage. I ran KDESystemGuard and it shows VMRss to be 16MB.... my other panel that I have running is called FBPanel and is using 22MB as shown in VMRss. nice :) |
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| 21:46.35 | boom1992 | blip-: power of kde... no kidding... dunno where it hangs ;) |
| 21:47.03 | blip- | wait, I just realized this isn't very different from my previous setup where I ran KDE/openbox session ie ob becomes the wm and KDE the rest. I've done the opposite now, Openbox/KDE session, lol several hours and I'm back in square one :) |
| 21:47.58 | boom1992 | :D |
| 21:48.19 | ByteMe_ | logging out to see it it resets |
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| 21:54.45 | ByteMe_ | how to i remove installed programs in add/remove? |
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| 21:54.56 | ByteMe_ | none of my software shows up |
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| 21:55.46 | ByteMe_ | hello? |
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| 21:59.19 | ByteMe_ | never mind |
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| 22:11.46 | excalibas | hello, How do I change the soundcard to my usb soundcard? I have trye on the system settings/Multimedia and it works for everything exept for what I need that is the realplay. please help |
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| 22:15.32 | jbwiv | hey guys...running kde 4.2 here. Does anyone have problems with plasma crashing like at least 3-4 times a day? It always (mostly) recovers, but I'm wondering if there's a fix I'm not aware of. This is on Ubuntu Ibex... |
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| 22:16.26 | chris-rc1 | hi |
| 22:16.35 | chris-rc1 | i am trying to run kaffeine (which worked until yesterday), but now i get an error message that says "cannot find xine_part in search path". it is installed though |
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| 22:20.00 | Pconfig | hey, anyone else got problems building kdesupport from trunk? |
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| 22:39.09 | Ghabit | Hello. How to change kdm background? At systemsettings I have message 'the background cannot be configured separately in themed mode' at Background KDM page. |
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| 22:39.49 | chris-rc1 | does anybody know the kde search path? |
| 22:39.52 | Kenjiro | Ghabit: disable the theme in KDM then |
| 22:39.55 | chris-rc1 | kaffeine, sorry |
| 22:40.35 | Ghabit | Kenjiro: How I can do it? |
| 22:41.58 | Kenjiro | Ghabit: too bad I am not in front of my PC now, otherwise I could help you for sure :( |
| 22:42.36 | Kenjiro | but if my memory serves me well.. there should be a check box you can UNCHECK, disabling the theme in KDM |
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| 22:44.11 | Ghabit | Kenjiro: Found, thanks! X) |
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| 22:45.59 | Kenjiro | no problem |
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| 23:09.10 | mini-man_ | http://www.oxygen-icons.org/?cat=3 |
| 23:09.16 | mini-man_ | are those the "old" oxygen icons? |
| 23:09.29 | mini-man_ | in the previews |
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| 23:19.05 | kdepepo | mini-man_, yep, that website is four years old ;) |
| 23:21.18 | excalibas | how do I stop the external screen from shutting own when I close my laptop? |
| 23:21.34 | DirkGently | excalibas: bios setting maybe? |
| 23:22.10 | Ghabit | Hello. I'm looking for virtual keyboard for kde4, advise me please. |
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| 23:26.58 | kibab | Any ideas why, when I have power management enabled in my account, my monitor doesn't shut off after XX minutes, but under a different account (that never enabled power management) it shuts off correctly? |
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| 23:28.46 | kibab | Did the ability to follow links in konqueror by doing /textThatIsPartOfALink [enter] disappear, or is there a setting for that now? |
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| 23:30.31 | caotic_ | is there any way to locate the mouse cursor in the screen with a keystroke ? like a visual alert or something ? |
| 23:31.06 | scoobaspeaz | i know there is a compiz setting for that |
| 23:31.17 | scoobaspeaz | but you have to enable compiz for it to work |
| 23:31.45 | scoobaspeaz | the compiz setting makes a ripple effect around the cursor when you hit a certain key stroke |
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| 23:32.53 | caotic_ | mm anything for a non compiz machine ? |
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| 23:36.26 | echoes | opensuse 11.1 x86_64/kde 4.2.65/intel core 2 duo 3.33ghz. nepomukservicestub is eating nearly 100% (of both?) of my CPUs somewhat often. is anyone else experiencing this? |
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| 23:38.27 | echoes | anyone? |
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| 23:39.19 | jad4_ | hi guys |
| 23:39.28 | jad4_ | I have KDE 4.2.1 opensuse packages installed |
| 23:39.42 | jad4_ | and got a bug on the dock in the panel |
| 23:39.49 | caotic | sorry I went offline, anbody with suggestions for finding the mose cursor in a non compiz machine ? |
| 23:40.08 | jad4_ | should I report that at novell's or kde's bugzilla? |
| 23:40.58 | hpladds | In KDE 4.1 my Dolphin only displays in full-screen. Any idea how to reset |
| 23:41.00 | hpladds | ? |
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| 23:42.16 | kibab | jad4_: what is the bug? |
| 23:42.33 | jad4_ | kibab: most icons are not displayed on the dock |
| 23:42.45 | kibab | jad4_: nvidia drivers? |
| 23:42.55 | jad4_ | kibab: such as kmix, kopete, klipper or skype |
| 23:43.11 | echoes | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.15 | jad4_ | kibab: amarok 1.4, knetwork manager works fine |
| 23:43.26 | jad4_ | kibab: well might be but it was working with kde 4.2.0 |
| 23:43.40 | jad4_ | kibab: oh and I'm ATI :P |
| 23:43.56 | kibab | jad4_: I see that problem all the time with nvidia-drivers and non-qt applications (eg. gtk) |
| 23:44.41 | echoes | maybe this is my nepomuk problem: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=182180 |
| 23:44.52 | jad4_ | kibab: well like I said... I have ATI |
| 23:45.01 | jad4_ | kibab: and it was working before the update... |
| 23:45.02 | echoes | although i don't suspend ever as i'm on a desktop pc... |
| 23:45.09 | jad4_ | with kde 4.2.0 |
| 23:46.43 | kibab | jad4_: you might try 'Option "XAANoOffscreenPixmaps" "true"' in xorg.conf (for ATI), but I'm not sure if it's the same issue |
| 23:47.33 | kibab | echoes: I've seen it eat all my processor, but I'm not sure if letting it run would to completion would have resolved it |
| 23:47.46 | kibab | echoes: I ended up disabling it |
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| 23:48.14 | echoes | @ kibab. me either. |
| 23:48.39 | echoes | i just let it run to completion, seems to be fine now. so is it indexing? |
| 23:49.22 | echoes | i mean when it eats 100% cpu (or near that), its indexing right? |
| 23:49.43 | kibab | echoes: mine was. I presume it will only index newly modified files once it's completed... but with no processor left, I wasn't going to give it that much freedom |
| 23:50.23 | echoes | i love using locate. one must run updatedb too, is/was kio_locate ported to kde4? |
| 23:50.34 | kibab | jad4_: oh, and I think that might just be for the binary ati drivers, but I'm not sure |
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| 23:50.58 | Mescalit1^ | excuse me |
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| 23:51.13 | Mescalit1^ | i need to repaint a notification |
| 23:51.17 | Mescalit1^ | after it's already been displayed |
| 23:51.20 | Mescalit1^ | i updated the text in it |
| 23:51.29 | Mescalit1^ | does anyone know if this is possible or how to do it? |
| 23:51.38 | echoes | unrelated question. prolly will sound stupidly simple, but how do i blacklist kmix from startup? |
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| 23:52.03 | Mescalit1^ | you can't black list it, just remove it from your autostart |
| 23:52.21 | echoes | it isn't in my autostart but it autostarts! |
| 23:52.45 | jad4_ | kibab: actually nevermind it's kde 4.2.0 I got confused |
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| 23:52.55 | jad4_ | kibab: so it must have been the Qt update |
| 23:53.11 | echoes | didn't kmix used to have an option "Don't start uplogin" or some equivalent? |
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| 23:56.45 | tsb | How can I turn off composition from the cli? I'm guessing I would do it through dbus. |
| 23:57.29 | Mescalit1^ | you can probably do it through dbus, i'll check |
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| 23:57.58 | yao_ziyuan | i posted a screenshot to kde-look.org. please vote for me! http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=100416 |
| 23:58.12 | Mescalit1^ | tsb: qdbus org.kde.kwin /KWin |
| 23:59.18 | Mescalit1^ | seems you can query it but not set it |
