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00:01.37 | gionny | I am using ArchLinux with the kdemod repo and, after last update (kde 4.1.4), Dophin "Paste" menu item and ctrl+v shortcut is always disabled, even if there is something to paste and I have write permission in that folder. |
00:02.06 | gionny | is this a known KDE bug? or is it maybe a bug due to the repo I am using? |
00:02.22 | gionny | I would just like to help KDE developers if this is a bug to be solved |
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00:06.39 | libervisco | meh you people have a really funny definition of "stable" software.. |
00:06.56 | libervisco | goes back to GNOME after hours setting up KDE4 for nothing |
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00:07.32 | pinotree | you have a funny definition of "patience", dear |
00:08.01 | gionny | lol |
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00:13.58 | WishMasterNND | How did he manage to need hours in order to set up KDE 4? |
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00:17.25 | animeloe | WishMasterNND: easy |
00:17.39 | animeloe | it's called DIALUP MODEM+80386 |
00:17.43 | animeloe | :P |
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00:31.28 | mfilipe | is there any irc client for kde4? |
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00:35.35 | animeloe | Linking CXX shared library ../../lib/libsmokeakonadi.so |
00:35.35 | animeloe | CMakeFiles/smokeakonadi.dir/x_2.o: In function `x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob::doResume()': |
00:35.35 | animeloe | x_2.cpp:(.text._ZN33x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob8doResumeEv[x_Akonadi__AgentInstanceCreateJob::doResume()]+0x5c): undefined reference to `KJob::doResume()' |
00:35.39 | animeloe | and more stuff like that |
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00:35.50 | animeloe | kdebindings svn (wed) |
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00:36.44 | kronic | why doesn't kde recognize two separate video modes with twinview? |
00:36.55 | kronic | instead it creates one large video mode |
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00:37.46 | marc_collin | with kde 4.2 beta, i have some problem with powerevil.. when i close my laptop it's suppose to do suspend to ram... but it do nothing... |
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00:40.58 | Tanktalus | why does the nepomukservices take up so much CPU time? |
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00:43.26 | marc_collin | because it indexes your files with strigi... |
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00:59.34 | fumanchu182 | are docs for 4.0 out yet? |
00:59.57 | fumanchu182 | i find it painfully hard to add a shortcut to the panel, in fact i can't apparently a right click is not as intiuitive as it was in previous versions |
01:02.40 | cb400f | fumanchu182: you're using 4.0? |
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01:04.32 | fumanchu182 | yes unfortunately, i am not here to bitch just to rtfm |
01:04.39 | fumanchu182 | but there is no manual apparently |
01:04.49 | fumanchu182 | i figured it out |
01:04.51 | fumanchu182 | but it was painful |
01:04.56 | fumanchu182 | as i had to switch to kick-off |
01:05.01 | fumanchu182 | instead of being able to do it from kmenu |
01:05.02 | pinotree | (an update to kde 4.1 is strongly recommended) |
01:05.15 | fumanchu182 | i actually think i am on kde 4.1 |
01:05.22 | fumanchu182 | is there a way of checking kde versions besides help? |
01:05.29 | cb400f | you can drag items from kickoff |
01:05.32 | cb400f | to the panel |
01:05.37 | pinotree | from any kde application, Help â About KDE |
01:05.38 | cb400f | if widgets are unlocked |
01:05.45 | fumanchu182 | yes but what about if i use kmenu? |
01:05.48 | fumanchu182 | i can't drag anything |
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01:06.04 | cb400f | well.. that's not the official default |
01:06.10 | fumanchu182 | hmm |
01:06.22 | fumanchu182 | so i am stuck with kickoff or have to switch to do a simple procedure |
01:06.33 | fumanchu182 | and dragging and dropping from kickoff does not work |
01:06.42 | fumanchu182 | i get a red circle with the line through it |
01:06.45 | fumanchu182 | and no panel is locked |
01:06.57 | fumanchu182 | 4.1.3 |
01:06.58 | castingcrowns | With kopete, when you recive a message from a buddy and the chat window is open, but not in focus. The task manager flashes for about 2 seconds. Is this a feture of kopete, or the task manager? |
01:06.59 | cb400f | sure it does.. just have to be precise in finding the place to drop |
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01:07.09 | fumanchu182 | well let me ask you this |
01:07.18 | cb400f | it's much better in 4.2 which is out in 2½ weeks |
01:07.22 | fumanchu182 | do i have to be in the "edit" mode of the panel to drag and drop? |
01:07.37 | fumanchu182 | is 4.2 gold or still in testing? |
01:07.39 | cb400f | nope.. you just have to find a free pixel to drop on |
01:08.17 | fumanchu182 | found the free pixel point which is above the taskbar in a slight line |
01:08.43 | fumanchu182 | but i assume there is no documentation available? |
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01:09.50 | cb400f | dunno about plasma docs.. it's so rapidly changing anyway.. and with lots of different backports in different distros |
01:10.18 | fumanchu182 | well i am on ubuntu 8.10 and it has older kde 3.x docs |
01:10.43 | fumanchu182 | from 2002 lol |
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01:12.01 | Psi-Jack | Goodie. |
01:12.12 | Psi-Jack | KMail from 4.2 beta2 is sig11'ing on start. |
01:14.21 | animeloe | anyone know about my compiling problem? |
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01:22.54 | kilt | hello |
01:25.00 | kilt | I use plasma applet "new device notifier" of kde4 to mount usb flash drive. I would like to modify default mount option for this kind of devices but I can't find where it is managed and even if it's possible to configure. Could you help me please ? |
01:25.18 | Jucato | atm it's not possible to configure it |
01:26.08 | kilt | okay, that's why I can't find ^^ thank you for the quick answer |
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02:43.25 | zak | Is the new today's nvidia update help the kde4 NVIDIA "bug"? |
02:43.29 | zak | does it* |
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02:58.27 | zak | Would kde4.2 beta 2 be newer than kde 4.1.3 ? |
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03:01.36 | Phlogistique | Hi there |
03:01.46 | Phlogistique | I've got a problem with my KDE |
03:02.04 | Phlogistique | There are very short "stops" |
03:02.16 | ld50_ | zak, yes |
03:02.19 | Phlogistique | every 10 to 30 seconds approx. |
03:02.38 | Phlogistique | wich I can feel when I play a video, a sound, etc. |
03:02.58 | Phlogistique | these "stops" do not occur when kded and kded4 are not running |
03:03.16 | Phlogistique | And I can prevent them by killing these two processes |
03:03.39 | zak | what are those processes? |
03:04.22 | Phlogistique | I imagine these processes hold a central role in communication between application |
03:04.34 | Phlogistique | and kio, etc. |
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03:05.09 | ld50_ | Phlogistique, what are you using to play videos? |
03:05.11 | Phlogistique | Nepomuk and desktop effects are switched off |
03:05.26 | Phlogistique | ld50_: mplayer. I get the same problem when playing stepmania |
03:05.40 | Phlogistique | I can try to confirm it with other players |
03:07.32 | Phlogistique | confirmed with VLC |
03:07.54 | Phlogistique | Does anyone else encounter the same problem? |
03:07.58 | Jucato | kded and kded4 are the central KDE (3 and 4 respectively) daemons/processes |
03:08.17 | zak | Phlogistique which kde? |
03:08.20 | Phlogistique | KDE 4.1.2 under Ubuntu |
03:08.25 | Phlogistique | last version |
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03:08.43 | zak | i have them sometimes on kde 4.1.3 under gentoo |
03:08.52 | zak | thought it was part of the nvidia bug |
03:09.33 | Phlogistique | My system has an integrated Intel graphic card |
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03:12.43 | Phlogistique | Oh, the problem does not happen when kded4 is killed and kded is still running. |
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03:16.28 | Phlogistique | The problem seems to stop when kded4 is killed and then launched again. |
03:16.38 | Phlogistique | I'll try to confirm this one |
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03:22.24 | Phlogistique | confirmed |
03:22.31 | Phlogistique | any idea ? |
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03:31.34 | gionny | never had those problems with ArchLinux, neither in my pc with an nvidia card, neither in my laptop with an intel integrated card |
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03:32.33 | syamcr | Hello all |
03:32.45 | syamcr | Can anybody please confirm a KDE bug for me.. |
03:32.46 | syamcr | https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478584 |
03:33.16 | syamcr | I am seeing this on Fedora. Arch Linux KDE 4.1 doesn't even have 'Set date / time automatically' option |
03:33.55 | syamcr | I want to know if the problem exists with KDE 4 shipped with other distros |
03:36.48 | syamcr | Anybody there.. |
03:38.29 | Phlogistique | I'm there |
03:38.33 | Phlogistique | I'll try |
03:38.44 | gionny | syamcr: in archlinux I don't have the option to set date / time automatically... that's because I installed openntpd instead of ntpd? I don't know... |
03:39.00 | gionny | syamcr: I just have a daemon running that does it and that's all |
03:39.57 | syamcr | Yes.. a friend of mine confirmed that it's not there in arch Linux |
03:39.58 | syamcr | I'm testing a debian based 4.2 live CD. The options is NOT there too |
03:39.58 | animeloe | I'm guessing no one here knows about my compiling issue |
03:40.11 | syamcr | Does the option vanish automagically if ntp is not present? |
03:40.14 | Phlogistique | I confirm under Ubuntu 7.10 |
03:40.46 | zak | animeloe: what distro |
03:40.52 | syamcr | Phlogistique: Are you confirming the bug report? (repeated time servers) |
03:40.57 | Phlogistique | yes |
03:41.02 | gionny | syamcr: I don't know... I have openntpd, but it is an ntpd replacement... uhm... maybe it is just a Fedora add to that dialog |
03:41.41 | syamcr | Phlogistique: Can you please check this too: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=478585 |
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03:42.02 | syamcr | gionny: That's what I want to confirm too, before filing one in bugs.kde |
03:43.11 | gionny | syamcr: actually, I don't know if I don't have it because it is not installed or I miss some package that this feature relies on or simply it is not included in KDE |
03:43.17 | syamcr | Since Phlogistique confirms the bug in Ubuntu 7.10 too, I guess this is indeed a KDE problem |
03:45.35 | gionny | syamcr: probably I don't have it because I use openntpd instead of ntpd... |
03:47.44 | syamcr | gionny: So the availabilty of that option in system-settings is conditional! |
03:48.54 | animeloe | rollyour own |
03:49.52 | animeloe | GNU C Library stable release version 2.8, by Roland McGrath et al. |
03:49.53 | animeloe | Compiled by GNU CC version 4.3.2. |
03:49.53 | animeloe | Compiled on a Linux >>2.6.27.8<< system on 2009-01-04. |
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03:53.56 | gionny | syamcr: I really don't know |
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03:55.02 | gionny | syamcr: it can be built-in in KDE and conditional (depending if you installed or not a package it depends too), but can be distro-specific, too. Both things are plausible, I just don't know which one it is |
03:55.21 | syamcr | gionny; Ok. thanks for the help |
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04:00.41 | gionny | syamcr: I guess you can open a bug report to KDE, too, as the Fedora developers suggested you... so you can see what KDE developers say |
04:01.37 | syamcr | gionny: I did just that.. |
04:01.49 | syamcr | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180212 |
04:01.57 | syamcr | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=180211 |
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04:14.42 | Xpert | Tenho uma duvida fatal no KDE 4.10 |
04:14.50 | Xpert | exclui minha barra principal de baixo |
04:14.52 | Xpert | painel |
04:15.07 | Xpert | adicionei um novo painel mas ele foi pra cima e nao consigo adicionar os widgets corretos |
04:15.12 | Xpert | para ficar como estava antes |
04:15.23 | Xpert | e alem disso os itens minimizados nao aparecem mais na barra |
04:15.27 | Xpert | o que devo fazer ? |
04:15.29 | Xpert | alguma dica |
04:15.32 | Xpert | ? |
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04:18.51 | Xpert | ninguem ? |
04:19.17 | Xpert | here is an english channel ? |
04:20.23 | Andre_Gondim | Xpert, yeah, if you write in english, there is more chance |
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04:56.44 | Gigantic | How can I know if KDE4's sound system is using alsamixer or skiping it? |
04:57.24 | Gigantic | KDE4 fail to use pulse or artsd or jack |
04:57.39 | drantin | kde4 uses phonon |
04:57.44 | Gigantic | it always end falling back to NVidia CK804 with ALC850 |
04:57.52 | drantin | you can tell phonon to use other things |
04:58.07 | Gigantic | yes, how do I know if phonon use alsamixer or skiping ? |
04:58.21 | Gigantic | it fail to use anything else |
04:58.33 | Gigantic | device busy device busy |
04:58.39 | drantin | afaik, the only two options for phonon are gstreamer and xine, each of which should be able to be set up to use pulse or alsa |
04:58.49 | Gigantic | how can jackd be busy, not posible |
04:59.15 | Gigantic | mm |
04:59.42 | Gigantic | checking ~/.xine/config |
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05:00.52 | drantin | Gigantic: check in systemsettings-> sound to see if it's set to use xine or gstreamer |
05:01.18 | Gigantic | yes it is |
05:01.22 | Gigantic | no problem |
05:01.40 | Gigantic | all kde4 apps output to phonon right? |
05:01.46 | drantin | yes |
05:02.21 | Gigantic | problem must be phonon-xine skiping alsamixer... |
05:02.37 | Gigantic | I have no idea with: bool, default: |
05:02.48 | drantin | what does alsamixer have to do with anything? just have xine set to use alsa |
05:03.29 | Gigantic | is skip alsamixer |
05:03.39 | Gigantic | that is the problem |
05:03.49 | Gigantic | so the resource is busy |
05:03.52 | drantin | alsamixer is an application to set volume levels, other things don't access it like that... |
05:04.33 | Gigantic | that is a mixer |
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05:05.21 | drantin | is xine set to use alsa? |
05:05.31 | Gigantic | I told yes, |
05:05.39 | Gigantic | but is using hw mixer |
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05:09.25 | Gigantic | ty, I am looking at xine's now |
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05:28.22 | Xpert | hi |
05:28.26 | Xpert | i have a problem |
05:28.31 | maazu | yes? |
05:28.34 | Xpert | anyone can help me in kde |
05:28.40 | Xpert | my main pannel dissapeared |
05:28.43 | Xpert | i wanna put it back |
05:28.50 | Gigantic | kde3? |
05:28.51 | maazu | what version? |
05:28.55 | Xpert | 4.10 |
05:29.06 | maazu | ugh! sorry, i am with KDE 4.0 |
05:29.17 | Xpert | isnt very similar ? |
05:29.37 | Gigantic | heh |
05:29.45 | Gigantic | just right click the desktop |
05:29.53 | Xpert | add pannel ok ? |
05:29.53 | Gigantic | there is an option about "add panel" |
05:29.58 | Gigantic | ye |
05:29.59 | Xpert | and then which widgets ? |
05:30.05 | Xpert | thats the problem |
05:30.07 | Gigantic | whatever you want |
05:30.08 | Xpert | another... |
05:30.21 | Xpert | the minimizated itens do not appear more in the pannel |
05:30.29 | Gigantic | system tray |
05:30.29 | Xpert | what have i to do for appear again |
05:30.38 | Gigantic | just add systray to hat panel |
05:30.45 | Xpert | ok |
05:30.48 | Xpert | system tray |
05:30.51 | Xpert | and which more ? |
05:30.58 | Gigantic | ahtever you want |
05:31.09 | Xpert | i want the way it was when installed |
05:31.10 | Gigantic | your choice |
05:31.13 | Xpert | i know |
05:31.16 | Xpert | but i m a novice |
05:31.40 | Gigantic | whatever you learn you learn it for yourself anyways... |
05:31.47 | Gigantic | there is an option to add a default panel... |
05:32.16 | Gigantic | right click and instead of add panel you have add defaul panel |
05:34.16 | Xpert | but why the minimizated icons do not appear anymore ? |
05:34.26 | Xpert | i have to reopen the programs all the time |
05:34.42 | Gigantic | add system tray |
05:35.23 | Xpert | i ve already added |
05:35.28 | Xpert | and the itens do not appear |
05:37.18 | Gigantic | in a console add: killall -9 plasma ; rm -rf ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* ; sleep 10 && plasma & |
05:37.23 | Gigantic | be VERBATIM |
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05:49.57 | GSF1200S | I cannot get konqueror to remember its size when I close it. So if its fullscreen, than I close it, it opens up a small window again.. any ideas... konsole does it too |
05:50.19 | maazu | i think that is desirable |
05:51.08 | GSF1200S | hmm.. really.. I dont remember doing this before.. |
05:51.40 | GSF1200S | kate for instance will stay the size it was last time... |
05:52.03 | Xpert | rm -rf ~/.kde4/shar/config/plasma* |
05:52.07 | maazu | groupies needs autographing |
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05:52.34 | GSF1200S | Xpert.. argh man.. im on kde3.. that an issue in here? |
05:52.52 | Gigantic | Xpert: I said verbatim |
05:53.01 | Xpert | what is verbatim ? |
05:53.10 | Xpert | i dont know what is this |
05:53.11 | Xpert | sorry |
05:54.53 | Xpert | Gigantic: |
05:55.13 | Xpert | cannot connect to the X server |
05:55.16 | Xpert | problems |
05:55.26 | Xpert | connot find de D-bus session server |
05:55.34 | Xpert | pipe closed unexpectedly |
05:55.55 | Gigantic | verbatim means: word by word |
05:56.12 | Gigantic | don't add anything dont omit anything |
05:56.18 | Xpert | yes i tryed verbatin |
05:56.28 | Gigantic | if you skiped something it's your bad, restart it |
05:56.33 | Xpert | ok |
05:57.20 | Gigantic | Xpert: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace twice would make it easier |
05:57.29 | Gigantic | try that, X will restart |
05:57.58 | Xpert | 1 (6687) |
05:58.04 | Xpert | the error |
05:58.37 | Gigantic | retry: killall -9 plasma ; rm -rf ~/.kde4/share/config/plasma* ; sleep 10 && plasma & |
05:58.45 | Gigantic | tehn restart X |
05:59.09 | Gigantic | it is logout and login or reboot pc if it is easier fo you, |
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06:03.30 | _n0 | intrepid w/4.2b2 feels nice! (vs. the old broken setup i was trying to fix) |
06:04.16 | Gigantic | @status |
06:04.23 | Gigantic | !status |
06:04.26 | Gigantic | mm |
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06:06.51 | GSF1200S | hopefully by 4.3 kde will be as mature as 3.5.10 was... KDE 4.2b2 looks pretty sweet... |
06:07.41 | Gigantic | .test |
06:07.50 | Gigantic | damned bot |
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06:44.51 | P-Luc_Auclair | would it be actually possible to replace Win apps with KDE ones? instead or explorer, use dolphin, and replace all file/software associations, even replace ?gdi/aero? with kwin? basically only keeping the windows kernel and rip everything off |
06:44.54 | Psi-Jack | Is there a way to start kmail without it doing the auto-check? I think that's what's presently causing my kmail to sig11 crash everytime I load itup. |
06:47.25 | P-Luc_Auclair | there is most probably an option in the config files of kontact/kmail, but I couldn't say where |
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06:51.07 | Psi-Jack | Yeah, even kontact is crashing. heh |
06:52.07 | GSF1200S | P-Luc_Auclair: I hope that never happens.. if it does there would be much less incentive for newcomers to come to linux |
06:52.41 | GSF1200S | i suppose its free software, etc.. but in my own selfishness, I wouldnt mind linux having a chance... |
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06:55.22 | Dolo | how can i be super user all the time so i dont keep getting messege to contact system admin? |
06:55.47 | Dolo | just wanted to copy a file says i dont have permission |
06:57.08 | GSF1200S | sudo cp /usr/share/file /home/user/ ? |
06:57.39 | Dolo | id like to be able to use the desktop rather than the terminal every time |
06:57.54 | GSF1200S | open konqueror as root |
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06:58.56 | Dolo | Dolo is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported. |
06:59.02 | Dolo | wtf? |
06:59.08 | GSF1200S | ohhh |
06:59.27 | Dolo | wtf does that mean/ |
06:59.32 | Dolo | reported to who |
06:59.38 | GSF1200S | can you use sudo for any root action? |
06:59.47 | GSF1200S | prolly not |
07:00.00 | GSF1200S | hold on.. ill tell you.. gimme a sec |
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07:00.22 | Dolo | i dunno i normally use su |
07:00.43 | GSF1200S | thats why hold on... |
07:00.57 | drantin | you can, only problems will be with redirections |
07:01.04 | Dolo | but i dont know the command to start konqueror |
07:01.11 | drantin | the command is konqueror |
07:01.19 | Psi-Jack | Dolo: How about "konqueror" just like you said? |
07:01.22 | Dolo | bash: konqueror: command not found |
07:01.57 | Psi-Jack | Well, then it's either, A> Not in your path like it /should/ be, or you don't have KDE installed at all. |
07:01.57 | drantin | is it in your $PATH? |
07:02.01 | GSF1200S | EDITOR=nano visudo |
07:02.25 | GSF1200S | oh hell.. could be that too.. |
07:02.28 | Dolo | im using fedora core 9 |
07:02.35 | Dolo | i did an install from the live cd |
07:02.58 | Dolo | also i dont seem to be finding stuff on package manager |
07:03.01 | drantin | also, by default sudo doesn't pass environment variables |
07:04.08 | GSF1200S | guys.. it sounds to me like sudo just doesnt have him listed as a user |
07:04.34 | GSF1200S | things work fine as root, when he does su - or whatever... |
07:04.41 | GSF1200S | so... |
07:04.42 | Dolo | isnt there some way to logg in as super user? |
07:04.44 | GSF1200S | EDITOR=nano visudo |
07:04.50 | Psi-Jack | sudo su - is the only good way to use sudo. |
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07:05.15 | GSF1200S | and ensure youre in the file with all priveledges... |
07:05.19 | Psi-Jack | sudo in common use otherwise, is very bad practice. |
07:05.31 | Gigantic | does anyone know about bug reports with locale? |
07:05.34 | Psi-Jack | sudo /some/executable != good proper use of sudo. |
07:05.35 | drantin | I use sudo for most everything, except when I need to do redirections, then I use su -c "whatever > whatever2" |
07:06.09 | drantin | how is sudo worse than using root itself for everything? |
07:06.18 | Dolo | apparently i have nautilus file browser |
07:06.23 | Gigantic | sudo plasma ftw |
07:06.24 | Psi-Jack | Because you think you're using it right, when you're not. |
07:06.27 | drantin | nautilus would be gnome |
07:06.28 | Dolo | and i dont see konq on package manager |
07:06.36 | GSF1200S | Dolo: have you tried what I said? |
07:06.49 | Dolo | u want me to type that in terminal? |
07:06.57 | GSF1200S | yes, as root |
07:07.04 | GSF1200S | so login the terminal as root |
07:07.06 | Gigantic | Dolo: My condoloences |
07:07.14 | GSF1200S | without sudo.. obviously |
07:07.18 | Dolo | bash: visudo: command not found |
07:07.41 | drantin | Psi-Jack: that was a fairly meaningless answer... |
07:07.42 | GSF1200S | oh well shit.. you may not have vi installed |
07:07.59 | Dolo | i used a live cd to format cuz i figured 1 cd be easyer |
07:08.11 | Dolo | didnt relize it be all gnome |
07:08.18 | Dolo | i coulda sworn it was kde live |
07:08.28 | GSF1200S | yeah, gnome is default on fedora now.. |
07:08.32 | GSF1200S | has been for a while |
07:08.33 | Dolo | well fedora core 9 version |
07:08.42 | Dolo | ahh |
07:08.47 | GSF1200S | hmm |
07:08.48 | Dolo | i switched to ubuntu for a while |
07:09.02 | Dolo | still have it on the other hard drive |
07:09.05 | Psi-Jack | drantin: Heh. Look at all them Ubuntu users, using sudo like every command. That's exactly the wrong way to use sudo. |
07:09.19 | Dolo | but i liked linux from back in the day i had fc 5 |
07:09.35 | Dolo | and fc 7 |
07:10.08 | Dolo | forgot almost everything being on ubuntu |
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07:10.23 | Dolo | dont remeber permission problems |
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07:10.44 | GSF1200S | it sounds like to me that you are not in /etc/sudoers as a user with priveledge.. at least when I installed arch the first time, the install wiki was saying to do the command I listed above, as vi had to save it, but allowing you to use nano if it was more familiar |
07:11.11 | Dolo | only thing i wanted to do was copy the grub file |
07:11.23 | GSF1200S | menu.lst? |
07:11.31 | Dolo | i think i need to edit it cuz ubuntu isnt recognizing my primary ide |
07:11.37 | Dolo | err |
07:11.40 | Dolo | fedora core |
07:11.47 | Dolo | isnt recognizing my primary ide |
07:11.52 | Dolo | which has ubuntu |
07:12.04 | Dolo | so i cant do dual boot |
07:12.28 | Dolo | fc is on priary sata |
07:12.30 | GSF1200S | well, if you have nautilus |
07:12.34 | GSF1200S | you can at least |
07:12.39 | GSF1200S | su - |
07:12.48 | Psi-Jack | Oh, and It's just Fedora now, no more Core. ;) |
07:13.00 | Dolo | really? |
07:13.02 | GSF1200S | and log in as root.. then nautilus |
07:13.03 | Psi-Jack | There's also kdesu command, too, for the kde wrapper to su. |
07:13.21 | GSF1200S | true.. thats prefereable with KDE gui apps |
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07:13.32 | Psi-Jack | That's preferable with X11, period. |
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07:13.36 | GSF1200S | as gksudo is with gtk apps, or gnome in general |
07:14.04 | GSF1200S | well, yeah I guess, although a gtk based environmennt prolly wont have kdesu |
07:14.05 | Psi-Jack | If you're running KDE, kdesu is the preferred one, and gnome-su or whatever gnome uses these days, for Gnome. |
07:14.15 | GSF1200S | gksudo |
07:14.24 | GSF1200S | yeah, for sure.. |
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07:16.18 | silv3r_m00n | hi there |
07:16.26 | silv3r_m00n | can i install kde4 along with kde3 ? |
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07:17.04 | Psi-Jack | silv3r_m00n: Well, yes. |
07:17.06 | GSF1200S | i suppose... |
07:17.18 | drantin | it's a lot easier if your distro supports it |
07:17.19 | Psi-Jack | Long as you prefix the two to different installation roots. |
07:17.20 | smurfslover | hi |
07:17.25 | GSF1200S | it would put them in different config folders.. |
07:17.33 | silv3r_m00n | Psi-Jack: will it create any dependency problems ? |
07:17.34 | smurfslover | why does KDE Deamon ask for my kwallet password on login? |
07:17.49 | silv3r_m00n | Psi-Jack: different installation roots ? |
07:17.52 | silv3r_m00n | means ? |
07:17.54 | Psi-Jack | silv3r_m00n: Dependancy problems? That really depends on your distribution. |
07:18.14 | drantin | and sometimes the order of directories listed in $PATH |
07:18.23 | silv3r_m00n | Psi-Jack: i am using ubuntu.....btw what does it mean different installation roots |
07:18.26 | silv3r_m00n | ? |
07:19.00 | Psi-Jack | silv3r_m00n: It means --prefix during configure for pre-compiling. :p |
07:19.00 | drantin | silv3r_m00n: it means installing one to some place like /usr/kde/3.5 and the other to /usr/kde/4.2 |
07:19.24 | Psi-Jack | silv3r_m00n: For example. OpenSUSE does it by using /opt/kde3 as the root prefix for KDE 3.x, and /usr for the prefix for KDE 4.x |
07:19.35 | GSF1200S | i think ubuntu has a seperate repo that has kde 4.2b2 and of course kde 3.5.10 |
07:19.37 | Psi-Jack | So they are completely seperate. |
07:19.45 | GSF1200S | what are you on? intrepid or hardy? |
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07:20.20 | GSF1200S | well yeah, the seperate repo essentially automatically does the prefix for the user |
07:20.24 | Psi-Jack | Bleh, Ubuntu needs to stop giving names to their distros, and just give numbers, that's it. |
07:20.42 | GSF1200S | heh.. well, 8.04 or 8.10 |
07:21.29 | GSF1200S | i think ubuntu is good.. I just cant stand the freeze after release.. the naming and stuff isnt that bad... |
07:22.28 | Psi-Jack | It is bad. Debian-based distributions are the last living stock of distros giving names to each release. Nobody else does, because it only adds more confusion. :p |
07:22.44 | Psi-Jack | And has no actual useful value. |
07:23.11 | GSF1200S | how about arch linux? |
07:23.20 | GSF1200S | dont panic, overlord, etc |
07:23.47 | Psi-Jack | just shakes his head. |
07:24.35 | GSF1200S | hehe.. I see what you mean man.. I mean unless you know ubuntu/debian/mepis or whatever, you wouldnt know by name which is newer.. vs. number based.. |
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07:25.26 | Psi-Jack | That too. But with Ubuntu specifically, you know even more than just a number. You know when that was released, year and month. |
07:26.47 | Gigantic | if you were using Windows it would be easier to know the version :P |
07:27.05 | Gigantic | ducks |
07:27.15 | Psi-Jack | swings low. |
07:28.34 | GSF1200S | Psi-Jack.. yeah |
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08:03.59 | Zarin | P-Luc_Auclair, There is no such thing as a window manager for Windows so there is no way KWin can be ported to a windows app |
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08:20.50 | Gigantic | ah nvm |
08:20.59 | Gigantic | C+M |
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08:44.53 | doxtor | Hello, I'm using KDE 3.5.10 on Debian Lenny and it won't login normal user, just root. After logging in it displays the login screen again. Where should like for an error? |
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08:49.23 | annma | doxtor: is that a new install? |
08:49.52 | doxtor | annma: not so new, it worked before |
08:50.05 | doxtor | Xorg.0.log isn't showing any errors |
08:50.13 | annma | so what did you do to break it? |
08:50.17 | doxtor | just that it can't find path to certain font |
08:50.24 | annma | did you upgrade stuff? |
08:50.37 | doxtor | yeah, I did upgrade |
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08:51.19 | doxtor | not recently, though |
08:51.23 | doxtor | could last upgrade brake it? |
08:51.29 | annma | probably |
08:51.45 | annma | kde does not stop working just like that |
08:52.19 | doxtor | it logs in fine under root |
08:52.35 | annma | so that means permission problems |
08:52.35 | doxtor | what could be wrong with my username's kde settings? |
08:52.42 | annma | try a new user to see |
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08:54.01 | smurfslover | hi there |
08:54.14 | smurfslover | i'm running 4.2 from suse's unstable repo |
08:54.32 | smurfslover | and i have kde deamon asking for the kwallet password everytime i login |
08:54.42 | smurfslover | is this normal behaviour? |
08:56.48 | doxtor | annma: it doesn't work under other user |
08:57.08 | annma | other == new? |
08:57.26 | doxtor | yes |
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08:58.23 | annma | so ask your distro channel how to repair it |
08:58.41 | annma | it means it is messed globally |
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08:58.56 | smurfslover | annma: can you help me with my kde deamon problem? |
08:59.04 | doxtor | annma: ok, thanks |
08:59.23 | annma | smurfslover: if it did not do that previously then it's either your install or a bug |
08:59.33 | annma | did you ask Suse smurfslover |
08:59.48 | annma | I don't use kwallet myself |
08:59.53 | smurfslover | ok |
09:00.08 | smurfslover | didn't get any respond about my problem in #suse yesterday |
09:00.18 | smurfslover | gonna try again today |
09:00.26 | annma | yes |
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09:00.33 | smurfslover | 4.2 is very nice btw |
09:00.41 | jazka | yep |
09:00.53 | annma | thanks |
09:00.57 | smurfslover | is it possible to name the activities? |
09:01.12 | annma | I think not |
09:01.28 | annma | as I see no such setting |
09:01.42 | smurfslover | haven't found it either |
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09:02.14 | annma | oh yes |
09:02.16 | annma | wait |
09:02.24 | smurfslover | cause now in the activity tabbar it states 'desktop' twice |
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09:02.43 | annma | hehe found it |
09:02.48 | smurfslover | :p |
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09:03.07 | annma | in Desktop settings, under the box where you choose Desktop or Folderview you can enter a name |
09:03.10 | the_p | hello. i have a question to the annotations in okular. where are they saved? can i give them to an other person? i can't find any function to save them. |
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09:04.11 | smurfslover | annma: great that worked! |
09:04.14 | annma | :) |
09:04.29 | annma | I was confused as I have my KDE in French |
09:04.32 | smurfslover | another thing i can't find anymore: enabling numlock at kde startup |
09:04.50 | annma | it's in systemsettings I think |
09:04.57 | annma | wasn't it in kcontrol? |
09:05.14 | smurfslover | when i select keyborad and mouse i don't have a keyboard entry |
09:05.35 | smurfslover | only mouse, joystick and keyboard shortcuts |
09:05.44 | smurfslover | in systemsettings |
09:05.48 | annma | wait |
09:05.52 | smurfslover | had it in 4.1.3 |
09:06.08 | annma | ah I have it |
09:06.19 | annma | that's a distro problem, it never disappeared |
09:06.37 | annma | the numlock is there but if I remember it is buggy |
09:06.47 | annma | did it work in KDE3? |
09:06.56 | smurfslover | never had kde3 on opensuse |
09:07.02 | smurfslover | worked in 4.1.3 from stable |
09:07.14 | annma | not sure it really worked |
09:07.29 | smurfslover | it did iirc |
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09:07.38 | smurfslover | only used 4.1.3 for 2 days then upgraded |
09:07.39 | annma | I remember looking at the code and letting go because of X calls |
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09:08.02 | rindolf | Hi all. |
09:08.16 | smurfslover | numlockx alreasy installed so should work through that :) |
09:08.18 | annma | smurfslover: ask in suse channel |
09:08.49 | annma | weird that this keyboard kcm is not there |
09:08.52 | smurfslover | bbl have to wake up my girlfriend and feed the baby |
09:09.02 | smurfslover | thx for your help annma |
09:09.12 | rindolf | In K3KMail, the "saved" folder" comes before the Spam. In K4KMail (trunk), it comes afterwards. I want it the K3Mail's way. I tried to move it, but I can only put it inside a folder, not re-order the sub-items. |
09:10.21 | annma | hehe have fun smurfslover :) |
09:12.04 | annma | are those folders default rindolf |
09:12.13 | annma | I don't have them |
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09:23.19 | rindolf | annma: no, I created them. |
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09:48.50 | cuci | Hi folks! I have recent issue with okular: it can't open chm files anymore |
09:48.59 | pinotree | kubuntu? |
09:49.05 | cuci | gentoo |
09:49.10 | cuci | okular is from svn |
09:49.16 | pinotree | did you compile the chm support? |
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09:49.41 | cuci | I just double checked...yes |
09:49.42 | Divyesh | any one knows how to remove IcedTea JVM ? |
09:49.57 | pinotree | Divyesh: ask in the channel of your distro |
09:49.57 | cuci | I get okular(2342)/kio (KIOJob) KIO::SlaveInterface::dispatch: error 109 "ms-its:/home/cuci/hard/medicina/Diseases of the Kidney and Urinary Tract - 8th Ed.CHM::/" |
09:50.01 | cuci | in console |
09:50.36 | cuci | I dont know exactly at what kio-slave it is refering and such |
09:50.51 | pinotree | does it work with other documents? |
09:51.13 | Divyesh | pinotree:plz tell how to go to another channel |
09:51.20 | Divyesh | i am linux noob |
09:51.36 | Gigantic | Me too |
09:51.36 | pinotree | Divyesh: what is your distro? |
09:51.42 | cuci | Pinaraf: as a charm |
09:51.44 | Divyesh | Fedora 8 |
09:51.53 | pinotree | Divyesh: write: /join #fedora |
09:51.55 | Gigantic | Fedora 8 is too old isn't it |
09:51.57 | cuci | pinotree: sorry as a charm |
09:52.04 | Divyesh | ya it is too old |
09:52.14 | cuci | with pdf |
09:52.15 | Divyesh | :/join #fedora |
09:52.22 | Divyesh | :S |
09:52.23 | pinotree | without the colon... |
09:52.52 | Divyesh | thanks pinotree |
09:52.54 | RichiH | he made it |
09:53.17 | pinotree | hf's with RichiH |
09:53.21 | RichiH | hehe |
09:53.43 | RichiH | pinotree: any idea if http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=179978 will be fixed for 4.2? |
09:53.49 | RichiH | and session management.. |
09:53.58 | rindolf | Hmm.. K4KMail got stuck sending a message. |
09:54.07 | RichiH | if they aren't, i will be forced to go back to 4.1 :( |
09:54.09 | pinotree | not sure, not an area i can say anything |
09:54.16 | rindolf | OK, now it's OK. |
09:54.34 | RichiH | pinotree: kk, ta |
09:58.05 | cuci | pinotree: hints? |
09:58.19 | pinotree | is the file public? |
09:58.29 | cuci | yup |
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09:59.00 | pinotree | link? |
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09:59.22 | cuci | also when closing okular after getting tired of waiting it crashes...should I send you the backtrace? |
09:59.46 | cuci | no it's not a link it's the file itself |
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10:00.37 | cuci | also xchm works fine with that file |
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10:01.55 | pinotree | is the file big? |
10:02.12 | pinotree | can you paste the bt in a pastebin? |
10:02.25 | cuci | sorry bt? |
10:03.00 | pinotree | backtrace |
10:03.02 | cuci | 151 mb |
10:04.09 | cuci | http://pastebin.com/m21915ac4 |
10:05.58 | pinotree | https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=178539 looks like the same |
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10:09.32 | cuci | thanks! |
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10:20.03 | jbrouault | hi |
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10:23.23 | Phlogi | anyone knows the dbus command for turning on/off the kwin deskto effects? |
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10:51.08 | Dumble | Hello world ! |
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10:53.54 | Elvanor | I installed knetworkconf for 3.5, where is the app / panel or whatever? |
10:54.34 | pinotree | kde control center â internet & networking â network settings |
10:55.16 | Elvanor | ok |
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11:31.52 | firsm | How do I get KDE4/kwin to open new windows on the monitor the mouse pointer is at and not at a completely random monitor? |
11:32.25 | Zarin | System settings -> Window behavior -> active screen follows mouse |
11:32.55 | Zarin | When that is disabled windows open on the screen that has the active window |
11:33.04 | Zarin | Enabled it's the screen with the mouse |
11:33.29 | firsm | mmh, but I just started opera from a terminal (which, I guess, is the active window) and it started on the other monitor. I'm using twinview tho |
11:33.55 | Zarin | Please type "pgrep kwin" in the terminal |
11:34.08 | firsm | 9177 |
11:34.22 | Zarin | Which screen had the mouse on it? |
11:34.50 | firsm | the screen opera was supposed to open on |
11:35.28 | firsm | enabling "active screen follows mouse still shows the same behavior" |
11:36.00 | firsm | however, some applications open on the correct monitor and some not |
11:36.19 | Zarin | How many screens do you have? |
11:36.32 | firsm | just two |
11:36.36 | firsm | using twinview |
11:36.43 | firsm | one is smaller than the other |
11:36.59 | firsm | well I guess if I'm using twinview I only have 1 screen |
11:37.03 | Zarin | So if you have your terminal and mouse cursor on the same screen the window opens on the other? Try a different application |
11:37.07 | Zarin | Some applications override KWin's placement |
11:37.34 | firsm | yeah as I said, some apps do it correctly and some not |
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11:39.07 | Zarin | Then it's the applications that have a problem, contact their authors |
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11:39.38 | firsm | alright, seems to work correctly with firefox but not opera |
11:40.18 | firsm | in fact, opera seems to open at the location it was closed at |
11:41.10 | Zarin | Intended feature then |
11:42.15 | firsm | guess so. thanks |
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11:44.36 | Gigantic | where is the kde4's recently opened hisstory? |
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11:54.39 | doc__ | hi there |
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12:22.10 | sackhacker | hello |
12:22.54 | sackhacker | since yesterday i have channel germany. Can i get tv with kaffeine over channel? |
12:23.23 | sackhacker | or is it only possible with dvbt receiver on laptop? |
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12:26.02 | thiago_home | how do you receive that channel? |
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12:28.03 | sackhacker | over channel modem and than intern ove lan |
12:29.08 | drvoodoo | i think you mean cable modem? |
12:29.50 | drvoodoo | and cable germany (Kabel Deutschland) as your provider |
12:29.58 | sackhacker | yes |
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12:31.36 | sackhacker | oh i did a mistake. |
12:31.36 | sackhacker | i think i need a app which acts as a digital receiver |
12:34.33 | _n0 | vlc? |
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13:19.29 | Phlogi | I can't find a method on kwin's dbus to toggle desktop effects... is it impossible? |
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14:40.18 | v6lur | hi. what are the right options for 'kdialog --geticon' ? i tried filesystems, apps, Applications, etc, but it always opens up with "Actons" view :/ |
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14:41.40 | M8ee | hello.. having trouble figuring out how to disable TOOLTIPS in konqueror kde4.2 |
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14:43.36 | v6lur | (@kubuntu hardy, kde3) |
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14:45.07 | pinotree | v6lur: kdialog --geticon Desktop Applications |
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14:46.52 | v6lur | oh |
14:46.57 | v6lur | thanks a lot :) |
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14:50.55 | v6lur | hm, what's the option for file systems view? i tried Filesystem, Filesystems, "File system", "File systems", "File System". "File Systems", but they get me to actions again |
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14:57.00 | v6lur | hmh - and that's not even Actions view - it's something like "all icons from every category together, but still labeled Actions" |
14:57.07 | v6lur | weird |
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15:00.45 | v6lur | kdialog --geticon Desktop Mimetypes opens up the "all-in-actions" view as well |
15:02.38 | pinotree | v6lur: MimeTypes |
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15:03.29 | v6lur | ...and FileSystems, then. ok |
15:03.35 | v6lur | thanks again :) |
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15:27.33 | mehrab | hey |
15:27.43 | mehrab | I wanna install a plasmoid from source, but when I try the commands, I get these errors and can't install : http://paste.ubuntu.com/102883/ |
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15:29.10 | Half-Left | mehrab: missing kdebase dev package of some sort |
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15:31.10 | mehrab | Half-Left: I'm going to install it, hope it works |
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15:32.07 | Half-Left | mehrab: wee we dont support distros here, you should ask your distro channel about package names for plasma |
15:32.12 | Half-Left | we* |
15:32.56 | boobaa | is there a stopwatch-like kicker applet for 3.5.9? it should measure and display time since start as h:m:s, and restart from zero on click |
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15:33.34 | mehrab | Half-Left: I thought this is not related to distro exactly, anyway if I asked it in wrong place I'm sorry |
15:34.52 | Half-Left | no worries |
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15:36.36 | CuBe0wL | hi all! I've messed up my file type assicioations in kde3.5.9, how can I reset them? |
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15:46.40 | KomiaPoika | in kde4.1 how can i put the panel on top? |
15:47.15 | arezey | first unlock the widgets, then right-click the panel, choose panel settings |
15:48.05 | arezey | there's a big black bar with a few buttons, grab that and throw it to the top |
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15:53.49 | KomiaPoika | arezey: thx |
15:53.58 | arezey | yw. |
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15:56.31 | Gigantic | where were the favicons held in the konqui's cache... |
15:56.33 | Gigantic | ? |
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15:59.19 | Gigantic | I can't find the favicons cache anywhere |
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16:06.44 | liar | hello |
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16:15.05 | Xpert | i have a problem |
16:15.17 | Xpert | my main pannel dont appear the minimizated icons |
16:15.30 | GraveDigger | whoohoo, 4.1.4 is out! Oo |
16:15.34 | GraveDigger | didn't notice |
16:15.37 | GraveDigger | *upgrade* |
16:15.37 | Xpert | i removed it and now i m not able to put it the way it was before |
16:15.56 | pinotree | GraveDigger: in 3 days |
16:16.05 | GraveDigger | yeah, shame on me :( |
16:16.58 | pinotree | shames on GraveDigger :P |
16:17.14 | GraveDigger | :( |
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16:17.36 | pinotree | patpats GraveDigger and offers him a drink |
16:17.39 | GraveDigger | :) |
16:17.41 | GraveDigger | thx |
16:17.48 | Xpert | no help to me ,? |
16:18.35 | pinotree | not sure i understood; what is your kde version? what did you do? how is your panel now? |
16:19.26 | boobaa | hmm, I've just managed to compile kdevelop's hello world applet, but the generated .desktop file lacks the "Type=" line. what should it contain? |
16:19.35 | boobaa | "Type=Application" doesn't seem to help me |
16:20.41 | J-23 | Qt: 3.3.8b |
16:20.42 | J-23 | KDE: 3.5.10-3.fc11 Fedora |
16:20.44 | J-23 | kde-config: 1.0 |
16:20.53 | J-23 | curses Konversation |
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16:28.52 | schafi | I've got performance problems with kde especially when I scroll. Could this be a problem of qt4? |
16:29.18 | Xpert | Hi to all. |
16:29.25 | Xpert | anyone can help me with KDE 4.10 |
16:30.35 | tictric_ | Xpert: if you just ask your question somebody who knows the answer might have the time to help you |
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16:32.12 | Xpert | my problem is that in the main pannel the icons do not appear more minimizated, i m using alt+tab |
16:32.25 | Xpert | the simplely dont go to the pannel anymore. |
16:33.59 | Xpert | another question, what plasma do ? it is on my desktop ... a small windows and i cant remove it... |
16:34.08 | Xpert | it is floating and i wanna remove it |
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16:35.27 | recoil | Does anyone of any SMART (HD Monitoring utilities) frontends for KDE? I was thinking of something that sat in the system tray and I could click on to see statuses? |
16:35.37 | tictric_ | if you right click on the desktop you can unlock the plasma widgets |
16:36.28 | tictric_ | once they are unlocked you can mouse over them which will show you sort of a tool bar with a close button. Click on it to remove the widget |
16:36.33 | tuxick | any reports here about kde-4.1.3 losing keyboard? |
16:36.40 | tuxick | i can't imagine i'm the only one again |
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16:37.02 | tictric_ | tuxick: you lost your keyboard? |
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16:37.22 | tuxick | yes, totally, even capslock not responding |
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16:37.29 | Xpert | tictric_: they are not locked |
16:37.32 | tuxick | i have to restart kde to restore it |
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16:37.52 | tictric_ | Xpert: then you should be able to remove the widgets you don't need |
16:37.53 | Xpert | tictric_: the tool bar of rotation option and closing is not appearing :| |
16:37.53 | recoil | tuxick: I had it happen yesterday when I was switching effects off |
16:37.54 | daftd | hi guys, Where can i post feature requests for KDE? |
16:38.03 | Xpert | strange |
16:38.11 | tictric_ | daftd: http://bugs.kde.org |
16:38.13 | Xpert | wanna a screenshot ? |
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16:38.44 | tictric_ | Xpert: http://imagebin.ca |
16:38.48 | Xpert | tictric_: how can i put my itens to be minimizated in the bar |
16:38.53 | Xpert | pannel* |
16:39.01 | Xpert | iim using ALT+TAB |
16:39.26 | tuxick | recoil: i can use effects, kde will crash when i start kmail |
16:39.28 | tuxick | can't |
16:39.35 | tictric_ | I don't know the exact english term at the moment but there is a window bar plasmoid that displays open applications |
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16:39.47 | tictric_ | maybe you removed it while playing around |
16:39.54 | recoil | tuxick: That's really odd. Are you using an NV based card? |
16:39.58 | Xpert | i guess so too tictric_ |
16:39.59 | daftd | just to check does any one knows a feature for "ALT +F2" => Enter in command. : drag to some menu (list) |
16:40.03 | Xpert | how can i put it again |
16:40.04 | tuxick | recoil: of course :) |
16:40.13 | tuxick | that's why it's almost too buggy to use in the first place |
16:40.41 | tictric_ | Xpert: you should change your nick :-) |
16:40.43 | recoil | tuxick: Bizarre, i have no issues with that here. I just sometimes lose the keyboard if I toggle effects off, so I can run a game or something like that. |
16:41.06 | tuxick | well something is wrong |
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16:41.13 | Xpert | tictric_: lol |
16:41.20 | tictric_ | Xpert: you click on the cashew on the right side of that taskbar |
16:41.34 | tuxick | also konqueror usually fails to respond to ctrl-f |
16:41.38 | tictric_ | then you click on add widgets |
16:41.40 | Xpert | tictric_: add widegets ok ? |
16:41.44 | Xpert | wich widget ? |
16:42.00 | tictric_ | window bar or something |
16:42.14 | tictric_ | drag and drop it to the task bar |
16:43.04 | recoil | tuxick: Are you using a distro provided version of KDE? If so, what distro? |
16:43.12 | tuxick | no, gentoo |
16:43.26 | tuxick | an dist providing kde4 is mad |
16:43.28 | tuxick | any |
16:44.07 | tuxick | it was simple curiousity that got me into this mess |
16:44.55 | Xpert | tictric: i m not finding no window bar ... |
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16:45.29 | tictric | I can't remember the correct english term and I don't have an english environment open at the moment |
16:45.37 | tictric | play a bit around |
16:46.07 | recoil | tuxick: Actually, I find suse's version really good. They've backported a lot of 4.2 stuff into 4.1, and I find it to be a lot more stable (and complete) than kubuntu's or Fedoras |
16:46.17 | [Kame2] | tuxick: in which case do you lost your keyboard? |
16:46.20 | tictric | in german it's Fensterleiste |
16:46.33 | tictric | pretty obvious anyway |
16:46.56 | tuxick | [Kame2]: haven't found a pattern, it think shift-pgup in konsole might be related though |
16:47.21 | tuxick | recoil: if you have to fiddle and patch so much, something is wrong :) |
16:47.35 | tuxick | but i heard suse is contributing a lot |
16:47.42 | recoil | tuxick: Well, that's the beauty of it.. I do nothing. I just install it and go :) |
16:47.47 | tuxick | i've also tried svn |
16:47.48 | [Kame2] | tuxick: if i let my laptop on over night, in the morning, i get a black screen, not responding to anything. but acpi acts on powerbutton so i can shutdown |
16:47.54 | tuxick | but that already starts with a crashing kwin |
16:48.03 | tuxick | [Kame2]: nono, it's while working |
16:48.18 | Xpert | tictric: http://imagebin.ca/view/IFXsHf.html |
16:48.20 | Xpert | see there |
16:48.23 | tuxick | there's also no pattern in konqueror no longer responding to ctrl-f |
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16:48.34 | [Kame2] | ok, while working it's all ok for me |
16:49.34 | tictric | Xpert: impressive :-) Scroll further down |
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16:49.52 | [Kame2] | the thing with a black screen seems to be related to a memory lack. if login via ssh i can see that xorg, kwin and knotify4 are using all of my ram |
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16:50.20 | tictric | it has one of those generic icons |
16:50.29 | [Kame2] | tuxick: ctrl-f works for me |
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16:50.48 | [Kame2] | tuxick: gentoo, kde 4.1.3, xorg 7.4, intel |
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16:51.32 | Xpert | tictric: what may i do then ? |
16:51.45 | Xpert | isnt some problem about plasma w |
16:51.47 | Xpert | ? |
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16:52.03 | tictric | drag it with your mouse on the taskbar |
16:52.10 | tuxick | nvidia could still be the main problem |
16:52.28 | tuxick | no idea if/how that affects keyboard but afair it is touched |
16:52.45 | Xpert | tictric: drag what ? |
16:52.52 | Xpert | that small window ? |
16:52.58 | Xpert | but it doesnt go there |
16:53.01 | tuxick | i heard 4.1.3 can be rather stable on sane video cards |
16:53.02 | tictric | or anywhere on the screen. That window bar plasmoid |
16:53.02 | Xpert | it dont enter there |
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16:53.13 | Xpert | it dont enter in the pannel |
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16:53.16 | Xpert | i dont know why |
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16:53.44 | tictric | sorry, i've got to pick up my son. Maybe someone else can help you meanwhile |
16:53.46 | tictric | brb |
16:54.07 | [Kame2] | tuxick: yeah, it' very stable for me, as long as i turn off my laptop over night (hibernate) |
16:54.09 | Xpert | anyone can help me ? |
16:54.23 | Xpert | a kde 4.1 problem that itens minimizated dont appear more in the main windows |
16:54.28 | Xpert | main pannel * |
16:55.05 | pinotree | try adding a taskbar widget on the panel |
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16:55.18 | Xpert | pinotree: which exactly ? |
16:55.24 | Xpert | i ve already tried almost all |
16:55.32 | Xpert | wanna a screenshot ? |
16:55.35 | pinotree | isn't there a "taskbar" widget? |
16:55.46 | Xpert | let me sse |
16:55.48 | Xpert | wait |
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16:56.12 | Xpert | pinotree: ty i found |
16:56.17 | Xpert | ty very much |
16:56.18 | Xpert | :D |
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16:56.28 | guax | think that they should turn into small shaded windows like win 3.1 and early versions of linux window managers when there's no app to handle the minimize |
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16:57.00 | KomiaPoika | ERROR: The kernel you are installing for is a Xen kernel! |
16:57.01 | KomiaPoika | <PROTECTED> |
16:57.01 | KomiaPoika | <PROTECTED> |
16:57.04 | KomiaPoika | oops |
16:57.10 | MinceR | iirc they turned into icons with captions in win3.1 |
16:57.26 | recoil | they went away entirely in OS/2 |
16:58.08 | MinceR | win9x did the small shaded window approach but it was rarely visible |
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16:58.16 | MinceR | (only if explorer.exe wasn't running) |
16:58.18 | Sinister | with kmaqil filters can you block all of a country like *!*@*.de ? |
16:58.22 | guax | MinceR: so, very often |
16:58.27 | MinceR | : |
16:58.28 | MinceR | :D |
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16:58.54 | guax | MinceR: and im quite sure win 3.1 does that too |
16:59.08 | MinceR | i've never seen win3.1 do that |
16:59.49 | guax | let me see |
17:00.39 | guax | ooo, yeah |
17:00.41 | guax | the icons |
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17:00.54 | guax | MinceR: now i remember, shame on me |
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17:10.32 | Kushal | HI all |
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17:13.54 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here ? |
17:13.57 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here ? |
17:14.05 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here ? |
17:14.07 | GNU\colossus | very wrong channel |
17:14.12 | GNU\colossus | very wrong way of asking |
17:14.22 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here ? |
17:14.27 | KRF | yes, Kushal. you are plenking |
17:14.27 | GNU\colossus | !ops |
17:15.05 | arezey | he seems to be even ircing as root. |
17:15.15 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here..Plz pm me |
17:15.36 | arezey | /ignore |
17:15.57 | Kushal | Hi any one knows Xen virtualization here ? |
17:16.07 | KRF | Kushal, i suggest reading some IRC guidelines |
17:16.49 | tuxick | Kushal: are you an idiot? |
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17:17.22 | Kushal | <PROTECTED> |
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17:17.45 | Fish | I think he broke his keyboard |
17:17.58 | GNU\colossus | Kushal: in the way of a complete and utter moron |
17:18.00 | animeloe | someone ban him |
17:18.07 | animeloe | foolish one |
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17:18.37 | Kushal | what are u saying |
17:18.50 | Kushal | why shud u ban me ? |
17:18.50 | arezey | u is not a pronoun. |
17:19.12 | arezey | ignorance is no excuse. |
17:19.18 | Half-Left | Kushal: This is a KDE support channel, ask about or leave and dont spam the channel, is that clear? |
17:19.31 | Kushal | ya |
17:19.38 | Kushal | i m asking about KDE only |
17:19.39 | MrGrim- | Kushal: you're being somewhat of a prick, asking for help by spamming, and in a channel completely unrealted to what you want help with |
17:19.46 | arezey | Xen doesn't belong into KDE. |
17:19.54 | Kushal | then ? |
17:19.59 | Kushal | where does it belong |
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17:20.49 | arezey | and don't pm me! |
17:21.12 | Kushal | I m asking u ..coz i don know |
17:21.43 | arezey | go google "irc guidelines", read, google Xen, and then go ask in the right channel. |
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17:22.07 | rE | this was quite an impressive amount of fail for one person :) |
17:22.22 | Sam_123 | is there anybody knowing KDE ? |
17:22.25 | arezey | yeh.. |
17:22.37 | arezey | Sam_123, well, this is #kde. what'd you think? |
17:22.53 | Sam_123 | I m new for KDE environment |
17:23.00 | Sam_123 | I havent used linux before |
17:23.08 | arezey | if you have a question/problem go ahead |
17:23.08 | Sam_123 | I used Windows |
17:23.22 | Sam_123 | I want to learn KDE commands |
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17:23.46 | arezey | kde commands? |
17:23.51 | Sam_123 | yes |
17:24.01 | Sam_123 | can u teach me some networking commands |
17:24.13 | Fri13 | Sam_123: commandline commands? |
17:24.18 | Sam_123 | Before that I have one Q for u |
17:24.18 | Dumble | these are Linux command, not KDE |
17:24.22 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123 == Kushal, BTW |
17:24.23 | rE | don't you want to know about xen first? *scnr |
17:24.45 | arezey | idiot.. should have noticed. |
17:24.46 | Sam_123 | what is difference between KDE n GNOME ? |
17:24.59 | Dumble | ask to gnome people :P |
17:24.59 | Fri13 | SSJ_GZ: what you mean? |
17:25.22 | Sam_123 | I found that KDE is faster than GNOME |
17:25.24 | arezey | Fri13, scroll up |
17:25.27 | SSJ_GZ | Fri13: Scroll up |
17:25.29 | SSJ_GZ | doh |
17:25.59 | Sam_123 | Is there anybody who will answer mw ? |
17:26.03 | Sam_123 | *me |
17:26.09 | Fri13 | SSJ_GZ: arezey ah... just got enough info just after I joined :-) |
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17:26.30 | Fri13 | loves the possiblity to place person to ignore list... |
17:26.47 | Dumble | kdegames in SVG are realy nice (I think that everytime I start one of them :D ) |
17:26.49 | pinotree | Sam_123: your questions are highly subjective -- the best thing you can do is trying them and judging yourself (as you would be using kde/gnome/whatever, not "us") |
17:27.02 | arezey | Sam_123, http://tinyurl.com/754ef3 |
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17:28.38 | Half-Left | Dumble: Yes thankfully we can themes and develop them really easy in KDE4 |
17:28.46 | Half-Left | theme* |
17:28.56 | Sam_123 | I have read those IRC guidelines |
17:29.06 | Sam_123 | Thanks Arezey |
17:29.09 | Sam_123 | :-) |
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17:29.26 | arezey | stunned, for once that worked! |
17:29.49 | Sam_123 | How to mount windows drives ? |
17:31.14 | Sam_123 | Can anybody help me ??? How to mount windows drives ? |
17:31.34 | pinotree | please be patient |
17:31.43 | Sam_123 | ok |
17:33.35 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123: Please don't PM people for help, thankyou :) |
17:35.25 | ungethym | Sam_123: http://www.google.de/search?q=how+to+mount+windows+drives+in+linux |
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17:36.09 | Sam_123 | thnx |
17:36.11 | Sam_123 | :-) |
17:36.24 | Sam_123 | ungethym u r a good person |
17:36.27 | Sam_123 | :-) |
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17:39.11 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123: Again, please don't PM people for help, thankyou :) |
17:39.26 | Sam_123 | why ? |
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17:39.42 | cb400f | because it's ineffective.. and invasion of privacy |
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17:42.47 | animeloe | giggles and spams everyone *giggle* :P |
17:44.21 | Sam_123 | KDE problem : Cant close any window...Any solution ??? |
17:46.23 | Dumble | ctrl+alt+backspace ? |
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17:47.27 | Samuel-NotAFK | Kedit becomes unresponsive when I open a 19.9MB text file. |
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17:48.35 | Sam_123 | who said cntrl+alt+backspace ? |
17:48.56 | boobaa | hasn't it closed all your windows? ;) |
17:49.17 | Sam_123 | it closed everything |
17:49.41 | Sam_123 | I m new here it doesnt mean that u will tell anything |
17:51.24 | Sam_123 | Actually problem is title bar has disappeared for every window that i open... |
17:51.39 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123: Sounds like kwin has crashed. |
17:51.44 | Sam_123 | Thts y i m not able to close any window |
17:51.49 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123: Open konsole, and type: |
17:51.53 | SSJ_GZ | kwin --replace |
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17:52.03 | Sam_123 | what is command |
17:52.15 | Sam_123 | "kwin --replace" ? |
17:52.32 | recoil | Sam_123: Just out curiosity, what distribution are you using? |
17:52.42 | Sam_123 | fc8 |
17:52.44 | Dumble | it relaunch window manager |
17:52.46 | SSJ_GZ | Sam_123: kwin is KDE's window manager, which gives you the titlebars, close buttons etc. |
17:52.59 | Sam_123 | ok |
17:53.21 | ChemBro | isn't fc8 outdatet, Sam_123? |
17:53.35 | recoil | You've got KDE4 on Fc8? |
17:53.41 | Sam_123 | no i don know..How to check that ? |
17:53.55 | FlyingFoX | is it normal, that kde4 only remembers my applet settings when i lock them before logging out? |
17:54.01 | Sam_123 | I m new to LINUX..I m windows programmer |
17:54.27 | habarnam | =)) |
17:54.44 | habarnam | ...sorry |
17:54.46 | recoil | Sam_123: Well, first thing I would do is find and run the FC8 updater... it sounds like your KDE (which I imagine is KDE 3) has some issues, and there should be fixes available. |
17:55.06 | recoil | Sam_123: Second, I'd look at getting a newer version of FC, or perhaps, another distro if that's the direction in which you want to go. |
17:55.23 | ungethym | Sam_123: are you really running KDE, not GNOME? |
17:55.30 | Sam_123 | KDE |
17:55.33 | habarnam | yeah... Sam_123, try Ubuntu... it's the friendlyest distro these days |
17:55.45 | Sam_123 | No I cant try Ubuntu |
17:55.58 | Sam_123 | I m currently working on Xen project |
17:56.06 | Dumble | the latest fedora is FC 10 |
17:56.14 | Sam_123 | Dom-0 must be fc8 for that |
17:56.17 | lojack | Sam_123: If it happens again, CTRL + ALT + ESC should change your cursor to a skull-n-crossbones |
17:56.33 | Dumble | you'll got an up to date version and latest version of xen |
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17:56.48 | lojack | Sam_123: Use the skull-n-crossbones to click inside a non-responsive app (window) to KILL the app |
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17:57.04 | recoil | habarnam: He'd probably want to try Kubuntu, if he wants KDE |
17:57.18 | Sam_123 | i have got "xen-3.1.0-13.fc8" |
17:57.21 | Fri13 | Are you guys now 100% he is not a troll? |
17:57.27 | habarnam | recoil... i was trying to avoid him using kde :P |
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17:57.29 | Dumble | recoil, seems he wants to stay with fedora |
17:57.45 | Sam_123 | My problem is arround virtualization |
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17:57.52 | Dumble | Fri13, only 0,001% |
17:57.54 | Sam_123 | Thts y i need to use fc8 |
17:58.09 | recoil | Sam_123: The latest xen is 3.3 |
17:58.22 | Sam_123 | yes i know |
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17:58.31 | recoil | Sam_123: I'm pretty sure that's in FC10 |
17:58.55 | Sam_123 | Ok u mean to say that Xen-3.3 is there in FC10 |
17:58.57 | Sam_123 | ? |
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17:59.56 | recoil | Sam_123: If I were a betting man, and if I cheated and looked at the FC10 features, I'd say: Yes, yes it is. |
18:00.39 | Sam_123 | recoil: ok :) |
18:00.44 | recoil | Sam_123: Wait... I may be wrong on that. It seems that there is some conflicting info |
18:00.55 | Sam_123 | recoil : Means ? |
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18:01.22 | sdljfhs0h0 | ok. i have multiple konsole sessions open in tabs. there is a shortcut 'Shift+Ctrl+<Right/Left>' to switch between tabs, but when i have 'su'ed and am root and switch to the next tab i remain root instead of taking on the credentials of the user who opened the other tab. |
18:01.27 | recoil | Sam_123: It's in FC10, but there is no DOM0 support. What that means, I can't tell you. |
18:01.44 | Sam_123 | lojack : CNTRL+ALT+ESC is not working |
18:02.27 | sdljfhs0h0 | does that make sense? |
18:02.29 | Sam_123 | recoil: How come ? means there will be only Dom-U ? |
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18:02.44 | recoil | Sam_123: I dunno... I use ESX myself :) |
18:02.45 | Fri13 | Someone should go to #fedora channell.. |
18:02.53 | SSJ_GZ | sdljfhs0h0: Shift+Ctrl+<Right/Left> moves tabs, not switches :) |
18:03.02 | sdljfhs0h0 | aoh |
18:03.08 | Sam_123 | recoil: ESX means ? |
18:03.11 | SSJ_GZ | Hehe :) |
18:03.21 | sdljfhs0h0 | JJS_GZ: *oh. so is there a switch tab shortcut |
18:03.33 | recoil | Sam_123: VMWare ESX |
18:03.36 | SSJ_GZ | sdljfhs0h0: Don't press CTRL |
18:03.46 | Sam_123 | ok that is latest version I heard |
18:04.01 | sdljfhs0h0 | SSJ_GZ: sweet. thanks man |
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18:04.04 | kde185 | Sam_123: alt + F2 and then click on the button that says "Show System Activity" when your mouse hovers over it |
18:04.06 | SSJ_GZ | np |
18:04.07 | Somethief | uhm guys iam using firefox on kde 4 but now firefox has kde-styled checkboxes, buttons and so on, its nice but they are just too big and cause alot of layouts to break (like gmail's mail list now has half of the messages than before cuz the checkbox is just huge compared to the font size); so is it possible to use other checkbox style in firefox? |
18:04.12 | sdljfhs0h0 | later |
18:04.12 | recoil | Sam_123: I may regret asking this, but what the hell... what exactly are you trying to do with Xen? |
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18:05.01 | sdljfhs0h0 | if i upgrade from 3.5.5 to 4 or 4.1, will i miss anything from the old version. it's the only reason i haven't upgraded yet |
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18:05.22 | Sam_123 | recoil: I m trying to extract resource info(RAM usage,CPU usage,Process Table, etc)from each Dom-U.... |
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18:06.48 | Sam_123 | kde185 : ALT+F2 gives run command |
18:07.15 | kde185 | Sam_123: yeah but there should a be a button that brings up a process list, kind of like Window's task manager |
18:07.45 | Sam_123 | there is no button like that |
18:07.48 | Fri13 | mortum: you miss some KDE3 applications if you do not keep KDE3 libraries. Like K3b application |
18:07.51 | Fri13 | mortimer: |
18:08.08 | Sam_123 | only options , run,cancel buttins are there |
18:08.34 | kde185 | hmmm strange. What version of kde are you running? |
18:08.41 | Sam_123 | I don know |
18:08.47 | Sam_123 | How to check that |
18:08.54 | Sam_123 | I m new in Linux |
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18:09.51 | lojack | Sam_123: Check this link http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/XenPvopsDom0 |
18:10.34 | Fri13 | Sam_123: open any KDE application (filemanager etc) and click "Help" on menu and select last option |
18:10.43 | Sam_123 | ok |
18:11.01 | Sam_123 | properties option ? |
18:11.06 | Fri13 | Sam_123: About KDE |
18:11.26 | Sam_123 | ya i got |
18:11.30 | Sam_123 | then ? |
18:11.37 | Fri13 | Sam_123: the version... |
18:11.43 | kde185 | it should say the version |
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18:11.54 | Sam_123 | 3.5.8-7.fc8 |
18:12.01 | soa2ii | Can anyone tell me what a quassel-core is? I tried to use Quassel instead of Konversation (because of Qt4 only) but that program is ... not really userfreidnly... or am I wrong? |
18:12.04 | Fri13 | As I tought... |
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18:12.37 | ChemBro | soa2ii: quassel-core is the core, start this and then the quassel-client |
18:12.50 | kde185 | Sam_123: I can't remember where the process manager is in KDE 3, but I know it has one. sorry |
18:13.13 | soa2ii | ChemBro: Why does an IRC-Client need smth like that? |
18:13.19 | ChemBro | and soa2ii: there is a quassel-channel |
18:13.42 | soa2ii | ChemBro: OK |
18:13.50 | ChemBro | ask it in the quasselchannel, they will explain it to you |
18:14.05 | ChemBro | i for myself need a core/client-system |
18:14.07 | recoil | I kinda like KVirc |
18:14.12 | pinotree | soa2ii: #quassel please |
18:14.17 | Sam_123 | i m trying to find system manager |
18:14.25 | soa2ii | pinotree: I'm still there ;) |
18:14.27 | recoil | Sam_123: Did you try CTRL + ESC? |
18:14.41 | Sam_123 | yes i got |
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18:15.01 | Sam_123 | System Guard |
18:15.20 | recoil | Sam_123: yeah, i believe you can look at processes with that, but it's been a while since I used KDE 3.x |
18:16.02 | Sam_123 | ya :-) |
18:16.21 | Sam_123 | I m using KDE(infact Linux) from last 2 days |
18:16.46 | Sam_123 | recoil: where is that process table in GUI ? |
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18:17.24 | recoil | Sam_123: As I said, it's been a while since I've used KDE 3.x, and I don't really recall. |
18:17.38 | Sam_123 | okk |
18:17.47 | Sam_123 | recoil:can we make our KDE look like VISTA ? |
18:18.19 | recoil | Sam_123: Well, if you use KDE 4 a while, specifically some of the effects, you'll probably want to make Vista look like KDE 4 |
18:18.48 | Sam_123 | ya i agree that KDE has got good performance as compared to VISTA |
18:19.02 | Sam_123 | but just for knowlwdge i m asking |
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18:20.03 | kde185 | Sam_123: Just download Fedora 10 and give it a try. It has a more up to date KDE not to mention better/newer hardware support |
18:20.17 | Sam_123 | recoil : OK |
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18:20.40 | Sam_123 | kde185: Any good theme do u have ? |
18:20.43 | eerf | Does anyone know what meta key is? |
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18:20.53 | PhilRod | eerf: usually Alt |
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18:21.09 | recoil | Sam_123: As for DOM0, I know that opensuse has Xen, but I'm not sure if it has DOM0. It does, however, have the best KDE desktop around, IMO. |
18:21.14 | eerf | How do you know for sure? |
18:22.03 | Sam_123 | recoil: When u say there is no Dom-0...Does that mean - there are only Dom-U |
18:22.10 | Xpert | for install a .deb is dpkg -r filename.deb ? |
18:22.17 | Xpert | it inst running ... |
18:22.21 | pinotree | Xpert: ask in #ubuntu or #debian |
18:22.28 | eerf | I mean how do you check if it is alt? |
18:22.38 | recoil | Sam_123: I don't know anything about xen. I'm just telling you what I read via google. You could, to be honest, try googling this yourself. |
18:22.43 | pinotree | Sam_123, recoil: what about bringing the Xen discussion in a Xen channel? |
18:23.02 | Sam_123 | pinotree:sorry:_( |
18:23.18 | Sam_123 | pinotree: i thought there is only KDE channel |
18:23.21 | kde185 | Sam_123: Personally I really like the default theme that comes with KDE 4. |
18:23.35 | Sam_123 | pinotree: how to go in Xen channel ? |
18:23.52 | Sam_123 | kde185: mIne is KDE 3 na ? |
18:23.56 | Sam_123 | *mine |
18:24.12 | kde185 | Sam_123: that's correct |
18:24.30 | Sam_123 | 3.5.8-7.fc8 |
18:24.44 | Sam_123 | what are those numbers mean ? |
18:24.45 | PhilRod | eerf: xmodmap, probably - let me see |
18:25.09 | PhilRod | eerf: well, I guess it depends: why do you need to know? |
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18:26.10 | kde185 | Sam_123: version 5.8 of the KDE 3 series |
18:26.15 | kde185 | sort of |
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18:26.18 | Sam_123 | ok |
18:26.36 | Sam_123 | kde185: and what about numbers in Kernel version |
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18:26.48 | kde185 | no one calls it 5.8, the linux world is full of sub-sub-sub versions of a program |
18:27.01 | Sam_123 | kde185:ok |
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18:27.35 | Fri13 | It is KDE 3.5.8 version |
18:27.55 | Sam_123 | Fri13:ok |
18:28.22 | Fri13 | Three big releases... few big release of these releases and then few releases for those smaller bugfixed etc. |
18:29.36 | vital | any people here having trouble compiling kde 4.2.60 from trunk? something in kdebase seem broken to me, and I just downloaded the sources from trunk with svn. |
18:29.51 | Fri13 | vital: you mean 4.1.60? |
18:30.01 | Fri13 | or current 4.1.96 |
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18:30.12 | ChemBro | Fri13: he means 4.2.60 |
18:30.20 | vital | indeed, says 4.2.60 |
18:30.21 | pinotree | vital: trunk compiles, what is your error? |
18:31.09 | vital | pinotree: http://rafb.net/p/2yX7hi97.html |
18:31.57 | kde185 | is there an ETA for the a fix to the corrupt system tray icons? I found a bug report but no mention of when it'll be fixed upstream |
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18:32.24 | pinotree | kde185: what is your kde version? |
18:32.44 | kde185 | pinotree: I'm running off of the ubuntu neon nightly repository |
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18:32.53 | pinotree | vital: looks like a local problem on your side, that code is untouched since long |
18:33.04 | pinotree | kde185: and that means, which version? |
18:33.16 | kde185 | pinotree: 4.2.60 |
18:33.18 | Half-Left | kde185: You have to wait until the tray spec is finished, most lightly a few releases yet |
18:33.28 | vital | pinotree: okay, I guess I'll have to search some more then... thanks a lot! |
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18:33.40 | pinotree | kde185: should already be fixed |
18:34.14 | kde185 | pinotree: It's slightly better, but with compositing it still does it, and happens more often with auto-hiding task bar |
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18:35.13 | Half-Left | Some people get better results when using non nvidia cards |
18:35.24 | Half-Left | or no composting |
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18:36.34 | mfilipe | where is the path to file that store Notes-it for kde4? |
18:36.51 | kde185 | Half-Left: I've got ATI. It's not a show-stopper for me, I was just curious when/if the new spec would be made |
18:36.58 | J-23 | hm |
18:37.10 | J-23 | can somebody help me with "New device notifier" applet? |
18:37.23 | J-23 | or rather automounting in Dolphin |
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18:38.03 | Half-Left | kde185: a while yet, not sure when, maybe a few releases, it's all about making app play proper in the sys tray |
18:38.18 | Sam_123 | How to play avi files in KDE ? |
18:38.30 | Half-Left | use a video player |
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18:39.33 | J-23 | "Error when trying to access <device name>, system returned: org.freedesktop.Hal.Device.PermissionDeniedByPolicy: org.freedesktop.hal.storage.mount-removable-no <-- (action, result)" |
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18:40.13 | eerf | PhilRod: Sorry. I was googling for it. |
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18:40.39 | lojack | Sam_123: AVI is like a container, and can have audio/video inside that was encoded using any number of codecs |
18:41.05 | drantin | not only like a container, it's called a container :D |
18:41.07 | eerf | PhilRod: I just installed compiz-fusion on F!0 with KDE and need meta key to use some of the plug-ins. |
18:41.16 | lojack | Sam_123: The right question is, what codec was used to encode the video you want to watch |
18:41.16 | Fri13 | Windows developer who does not know about Avi is container? |
18:41.36 | lojack | Fri13: Easy... |
18:41.38 | thrice` | hi all; can anyone help with websvn ? I'm trying to grab the 4.1.96/ tag |
18:42.03 | J-23 | how can I fix that? |
18:42.06 | Half-Left | ask away |
18:42.34 | thrice` | well, svn co http://websvn.kde.org/tags/KDE/4.1.96/ doesn't seem to work |
18:42.53 | Fri13 | thrice`: there is script to get trunk version |
18:42.53 | lojack | Sam_123: Also, as others have mentioned (politely), you should mention your KDE version when asking KDE question -- KDE3 vs KDE4 usually is enough |
18:43.38 | pinotree | thrice`: websvn is not an svn server. |
18:43.54 | lojack | Sam_123: You probably will need 'win32codecs-all' package to play videos that use Microsoft codecs |
18:44.28 | pinotree | thrice`: please take a look at http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Sources/Anonymous_SVN |
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18:44.53 | lojack | Sam_123: As for video players (the apps), you have a number available to you, and they may or may not be installed on your system |
18:45.15 | kde185 | Sam_123: I think that the #fedora channel would be a better place to ask that, but for various legal reasons Fedora doesn't include the ability to use the most widely used media formats |
18:45.35 | lojack | Sam_123: Kaffeine, MPlayer, Xiine, etc. |
18:45.45 | thrice` | pinotree: d'oh. thanks, that's working :> |
18:47.35 | Xpert | how i reduce the size of the icons in kde 4.1 ? |
18:47.44 | Xpert | the icons that appear in the system tray |
18:48.12 | pinotree | systray specifications define the size of the icons at 22x22px, so you cannot |
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18:48.55 | Xpert | systray specifications ? how i go in this menu ? |
18:49.03 | Fri13 | Xpert: You cant |
18:49.04 | pinotree | ? |
18:49.04 | Xpert | just right click in systray ? |
18:49.08 | Xpert | ok |
18:49.12 | Xpert | shit |
18:49.14 | Xpert | lol |
18:49.15 | Fri13 | Xpert: it is standard to have only that size icons |
18:49.19 | Xpert | ok |
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18:52.45 | PhilRod | eerf: hm, try Alt+shift |
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18:53.25 | eerf | PhilRod: I tired alt, windows key for meta |
18:53.35 | eerf | PhilRod: but no... |
18:54.45 | eerf | PhilRod: http://rafb.net/p/lzW3Dg76.html |
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18:55.27 | eerf | PhilRod: what is mode 1? |
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18:57.15 | PhilRod | eerf: the other thing to try is "xmodmap -pk | grep -i meta" |
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18:59.39 | eerf | PhilRod: http://rafb.net/p/yPwUSf17.html |
18:59.45 | Sam_123 | lojack: I hv Kaffeine player |
19:00.10 | Sam_123 | lojack: But its not working for AVI |
19:00.49 | PhilRod | eerf: as far as I understand it, that looks like Meta should be Alt+Shift |
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19:01.50 | eerf | so if its says to press meta + ctrl +_ F12, then I have to press 4 keys like shift + alt + ctrl + F12? |
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19:03.38 | eerf | PhilRod: Thanks but I give up. |
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19:03.57 | PhilRod | ok |
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19:08.27 | Sam_123 | Where will i get IP adress configuration ? |
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19:34.32 | potter1984 | hello |
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19:46.37 | Sam_123 | I wish to Hibernate KDE... |
19:46.53 | Sam_123 | How to hibernate from KDE ? |
19:48.49 | boom1992 | Sam_123: kde4? |
19:48.56 | Sam_123 | kde3 |
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19:49.24 | boom1992 | no idea then |
19:49.40 | Sam_123 | boom1992:any command for hibernation |
19:49.43 | Sam_123 | ? |
19:50.21 | boom1992 | I have no clue... sorry, in kde4 there is a menu-entry |
19:50.37 | Sam_123 | boom1992:ok thnx |
19:50.51 | [Kame2] | is there a way how the hibernation in kde4 is done? i want that it hibernates like /usr/sbin/hibernate (unloading nic-drivers and such) |
19:51.29 | [Kame2] | *a way to CHANGE how hiber... |
19:51.47 | rmh3093 | is there an equivilant to file-roller in kde? |
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19:53.42 | rmh3093 | or qt4 based archiver? |
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19:55.40 | SSJ_GZ | whee |
19:55.54 | junkDawgie | rmh3093: ark is the default archive tool in kde4, there are also other tools peazip or q7z |
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19:56.32 | rmh3093 | junkDawgie: thanks |
19:56.43 | junkDawgie | also there is sevicemenu addons for dolphin and konqueror |
19:56.52 | rmh3093 | ark is was i was looking for |
19:56.57 | rmh3093 | i knew there had to be something |
19:57.39 | junkDawgie | personally i find the Extract and Compress servicemenu addon the most useful |
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19:58.10 | rmh3093 | "service menu"?? |
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19:58.46 | junkDawgie | it adds a right-click context menu selection in the dolphin or konqueror file managers |
19:59.33 | junkDawgie | ark has that too but it's an "open with" type of choice |
20:00.03 | junkDawgie | just adds a step |
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20:01.01 | ungethym | Sam_123: You should find "hibernate" in the shutdown menu |
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20:03.05 | Psychey | anyone here using kmail 4.1.2? |
20:04.19 | Psychey | ...and are able to send mails just fine? |
20:04.41 | Psychey | some bugs are preventing me from doing just that.. |
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20:07.54 | [Kame2] | Psychey: i use 4.1.3 but used 4.1.2 before 4.1.3 where out. don't remember any problems |
20:08.43 | Psychey | thanks, neither did i... until recently. now it simply refuses to send any mails at all.. |
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20:10.20 | kriko | Hello! Which is the official kde forum: www.kde-forum.org or forum.kde.org? |
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20:11.47 | SSJ_GZ | kriko: The second one :) |
20:12.25 | kriko | I used to visit the first one for long time, what happened? Did they move completely? |
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20:21.14 | estan | anyone if there's been any changes to the folderview plasmoid in 4.2? |
20:21.28 | estan | e.g. does it have a list view now? |
20:21.31 | schafi | scrolling lists in dolphin is quite slow ... does anybody know how to solve this? |
20:21.50 | estan | schafi: i've always had that, though it's been getting marginally better with time.. |
20:22.05 | estan | schafi: what graphics hardware do you have? |
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20:22.14 | schafi | estan: intel 915gm |
20:23.02 | estan | schafi: okay, i have a 945gm and it's pretty slow here too :/ |
20:23.31 | schafi | estan: the problem: I've got this slow scrolling on all lists (also in amarok, when I scroll my local collection) ... I didn't know that kde4 is so extremely hardware hungry :-( |
20:23.33 | estan | i don't know why, it's a bit better on my stationary with nvidia+latest drivers.. |
20:24.00 | estan | schafi: i don't think this is symptomatic of kde4 per se, i'm sure there's way to fix these issues. |
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20:24.22 | estan | kde4 is quite fast, but has rough edges. this is one of them currently. |
20:24.27 | schafi | estan: I also tried latest Xorg stuff (xserver and driver from git) |
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20:24.56 | schafi | estan: the strange thing: no performance problems with gtk2 apps ... it seems to be a qt4 problem |
20:25.02 | estan | okay. yea well i think this particular problem is more a problem with kde/qt than with xorg or the intel driver. |
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20:25.24 | estan | yes, but it's not so strange, it's two completely different pieces of software. |
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20:26.16 | estan | and the qt+kde4 stack can be considered much younger than the current gtk+gnome one, so it has more rough edges. let's hope it's fixed in 4.2. |
20:26.22 | marco_ | howto autounmask kde 4.1.87? |
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20:26.34 | estan | marco_: i think #gentoo for that. |
20:26.56 | estan | (if you're talking about gentoo portage masking/unmasking). |
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20:27.47 | marco_ | yes estan i talk about gentoo |
20:28.20 | estan | okay. then #gentoo. |
20:28.26 | schafi | estan: yeah but when I can't fix this I have to switch DE ... with these performance problems, kde4 is not ready for daily use for me ... I need a productive environment with a good performance :-( |
20:28.35 | estan | schafi: okay. |
20:29.01 | estan | not going to argue there, if it's not acceptable to you yet then that's just the way it is ;) |
20:29.28 | vinnie_ | how do i get apps the get focus to automatically switch to top? |
20:29.33 | schafi | estan: last try for me is to change to qt4.5 |
20:30.24 | estan | schafi: might be worth a shot. try searching bugs.kde.org too and see if it's been reported.. maybe some developer who is knowledgeable has commented. |
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20:30.42 | estan | vinnie_: not sure it's possible in kde4 yet. |
20:31.07 | vinnie_ | estan: im using 3.5.10 |
20:31.17 | vinnie_ | on slackware 12.2 |
20:31.34 | estan | vinnie_: okay. then i don't know ;) it was a long time since i used it so i don't know where to set it.. |
20:33.47 | schafi | estan: there is a bug report but no solution yet ... hope this will get fixed soon :-) |
20:34.15 | SSJ_GZ | schafi: Link to bug report? |
20:34.48 | schafi | SSJ_GZ: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=170010 |
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20:35.18 | SSJ_GZ | schafi: Thanks! |
20:35.36 | schafi | SSJ_GZ: the bug could be related to the new semantic stuff like nepomuk |
20:35.49 | SSJ_GZ | schafi: Possibly. |
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20:50.50 | OldMan | I just installed the KDE4.2 rpms from the KDE-redhat repository. Now the panel is blue. How do I change the background color of the panel? |
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20:51.53 | OldMan | I don't see anything in the Overview/Appearance/Colors tabs... |
20:52.13 | OldMan | Not in right-click->Panel Settings either... |
20:52.29 | OldMan | Nor in "More Settings" under that, either. |
20:53.58 | kdepepo | OldMan, change the Plasma theme to something that respects system colors (Aya comes to mind) |
20:54.09 | OldMan | Where's that? |
20:54.21 | kdepepo | Old, right click desktop, "Configure" |
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20:54.56 | kdepepo | OldMan, there is a combo that should read "Oxygen". If you do not have Aya, bug your distributor to package it. |
20:54.58 | OldMan | Is it a bug that that's not accessible from the "Appearance" tab of the system settings window? |
20:55.12 | kdepepo | OldMan, yes, known. |
20:55.32 | OldMan | Thank you. And I do have Aya, and it does look pretty good. THanks. |
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21:03.03 | znh | Hello people. I'd like to know if my system is able to run kde good enough on my pretty old system. It's a 800mhz with 256 megs of ram |
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21:04.02 | mcas | hi |
21:04.51 | mcas | is there a way to add a new web shortcut for a web search for konqueror to many installations? |
21:05.03 | mcas | is there a config file or something? |
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21:15.25 | wesley | is it hard to get kde running on osx |
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21:17.21 | wesley | ? |
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21:17.47 | OldMan | Dunno; I don't run OS X. |
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21:19.28 | cb400f | wesley: http://mac.kde.org .. it's beta.. and you don't get a kde desktop (yet) .. just apps |
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21:20.52 | wesley | cb400f how hard is it to get it on mac |
21:21.21 | cb400f | I don't have that stuff.. but I should think it's as easy as installing any other .dmg |
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21:21.42 | cb400f | .. how well it works afterwards is a different matter entirely |
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21:23.37 | wesley | i going dual boot my pc with kde4.2 kubuntu 9.04 |
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21:26.14 | wesley | are they planning to get the whole envirioment to osx? |
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21:28.45 | OldMan | So um, new version of kmail... I'm seeing the list of emails now has lines in it that say "Today," "Yesterday," etc. |
21:29.21 | OldMan | I've changed the "theme" to classic, so now the date shows in one of the columns... so I don't need those; they now just make the list view not show as many emails, since some lines are taken up with those. How do I turn them off? |
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21:31.00 | Half-Left | OldMan: Try the buttons on top right |
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21:33.28 | OldMan | Half-Left, I'm playing with them... and have found a way to customize almost everything else... but NOT the presence of the group header. |
21:33.33 | OldMan | I just want the group headers to go away. |
21:34.04 | OldMan | (And I'm curious to know if there was any UI testing on making this the default... or if it was a GNOME-style, "we-know-better-than-our-users" middle finger.) |
21:34.12 | Half-Left | Group header? |
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21:36.16 | Half-Left | OldMan: Well you'll always get someone who dont like it, it's been very positive change from what I've seen |
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21:37.51 | OldMan | Well, that's exactly my question: is there any UI testing of such "improvements?" SuSE or anybody actually collecting data on such changes? |
21:38.56 | Half-Left | You should ask on the mailing lists, pretty sure they dont just throw things togther at random |
21:39.43 | OldMan | There IS precedent for that, sadly. :( |
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21:42.23 | OldMan | Hey, I found it! |
21:42.30 | OldMan | Aggregation -> Flat Date View |
21:42.40 | OldMan | Thanks, kmail folks, for remembering to incorporate some feature parity! |
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21:44.34 | DrSlony | Help, I use a dark theme that looks great for photography work, but I get unreadable colours in *some* forum textareas, does anyone know how to fix it on my end? Which exact color in System Settings is used? http://www.autopano.net/forum/viewtopic.php?pid=36615#p36615 |
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21:55.33 | _mwoodj_ | Hi. I believe KDE has a dashboard feature similar to OS X. I am pretty sure that I have popped it up by accident before but now that I want it I can't figure out how to pop it up. If this is a feature how do I make it come up? |
21:57.47 | [Kame2] | _mwoodj_: ctrl+F12 |
21:58.06 | [Kame2] | or you put the plasmoid in your panel |
21:58.33 | _mwoodj_ | THanks a lot... I know its F12 in OS X and I tried F12 and alt+F12... don't know why I didn't try ctrl+F12. I appreciate it. |
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22:02.54 | redpill | how can i refresh my "start" menu |
22:03.50 | redpill | ? |
22:05.41 | DrSlony | try /usr/bin/kbuildsycoca4 |
22:05.47 | DrSlony | (guessing) |
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22:11.52 | hallowname | the most popular rosetta stone piracy + wine + kwin works! thank you community!!! |
22:15.54 | drantin | o_O |
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22:49.40 | juanmita | hol@ |
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23:08.16 | victim[v] | can KDESVN do branches? I'm using KDE 3.5.10 and kdesvn 0.14.6 |
23:08.27 | victim[v] | if it can, how? |
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23:12.48 | karthik | hi I was wondering if there is a way to save KDE settings "without logout" ? If I make some changes (like move panel-launcher -plasmoids ) then if I do not logout it is not saved. this is intrepid ibex |
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23:14.42 | johjoh | hello... i'd like to change my konqueror's background image... dunno how to do it... could some1 gimme a hint? i'm on kde 3.5 |
23:16.26 | johjoh | anyone? |
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23:18.40 | pinotree | johjoh: view â configure the background |
23:19.19 | johjoh | pinotree: on where? which menu? |
23:19.24 | pinotree | in konqueror |
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23:21.07 | pinotree | johjoh: â |
23:22.15 | johjoh | pinotree: found it... thx... was looking on the wrong menu... it's on view menu |
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23:35.21 | Maximus | can anyone recommend a theme for kde 3.5 where the widgets are optimized for space and not needlessly large? :p |
23:36.25 | cb400f | wasn't there one called lipstick or something ? |
23:36.33 | cb400f | tries to remember the distant past |
23:37.20 | MinceR | lipstik? |
23:37.33 | MinceR | i don't remember it as being optimized for space though |
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23:37.58 | MinceR | QtCurve might fit the description though |
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23:53.07 | euskokali | hola |
23:54.24 | MinceR | what's the command that pops up the "shutdown" dialog? |
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23:54.47 | MinceR | does 'dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface logout' do this? |
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23:58.50 | pinotree | MinceR: try dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 1 0 3 |
23:59.04 | MinceR | i'll try that |
23:59.17 | MinceR | (i'll boot another pc to mess with this on :) ) |