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| 00:11.04 | Walzmyn | I need some help tracking down a config file in KDE4 if anybody's got the time. |
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| 00:14.39 | Shingoshi | How do I change the size of the icons in the systemtray? I want two rows of them like I had before upgrading to KDE4. |
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| 00:16.02 | neverendingo | Shingoshi: try to make the panel higher. changing the icons size is not yet possible |
| 00:16.09 | Walzmyn | Shingoshi, i'm by no means an expert, but I think those things have not been added in yet |
| 00:16.52 | Shingoshi | Thanks. I figured it out after asking here! LOL |
| 00:17.10 | neverendingo | Walzmyn: which config file? |
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| 00:17.51 | drantin | Walzmyn: any particular config? |
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| 00:18.10 | Walzmyn | neverendingo, i believe some folks in #kubuntu have pointed me in the right direction, i'm trying to work on it now |
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| 00:18.21 | Walzmyn | I turned on desktop effects and now my screen is black |
| 00:18.21 | cb400f | Shingoshi: .. also depends on your kde version... "kde4" doesn't say much.. could be 4.0... 4.1... 4.2... makes quite a bit of difference |
| 00:18.23 | Walzmyn | :( |
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| 00:19.16 | Shingoshi | Walzmyn: I have it right now. I fixed it before I got your answer, Which was correct by the way. |
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| 00:20.05 | Shingoshi | Now, I just need to decrease the size of the clock's font, if that's possible. |
| 00:20.15 | Walzmyn | Shingoshi, good deal. I'm waiting on those upgrades as well as auto hide before i put KDE4 on my primary compu |
| 00:20.37 | Shingoshi | Yeah, I do miss the autohide. |
| 00:21.26 | Shingoshi | I'm going to check in systemsettings and see if I can change the clock's font size. bbl |
| 00:21.28 | cb400f | in case you're interested both of those features are backported to the opensuse 11.1 kde 4.1.3 |
| 00:21.50 | neverendingo | Walzmyn, Shingoshi: autohide is implemented in 4.2 |
| 00:23.14 | Walzmyn | sweet |
| 00:23.35 | Walzmyn | How do i see which version i'm running? |
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| 00:23.59 | neverendingo | Walzmyn: any kde app, help -> about kde |
| 00:24.10 | neverendingo | ^any kde4 app, sorry |
| 00:24.17 | Walzmyn | oh yeah, i knew that |
| 00:24.18 | Shingoshi | I have 4.1.3. Slackware doesn't have KDE4 released as stable yet. But the clock's font must be hidden. |
| 00:24.28 | Nightstalker | hey guys, anyone have problems installing xine ? |
| 00:25.06 | ginge | hi all. Kate in 4.1 is driving me insane with the new embedded search box resizing my split views with no way to shrink it back down. Can I put something in a config anywhere to use old style find/replace dialog? |
| 00:25.49 | Walzmyn | OK, i'm running 4.1.2 on ye olde desktop. |
| 00:26.14 | Walzmyn | Laptop's got a wide screen and that's just too much realestate to lose, i gotta have the auto hide before I move it up |
| 00:27.13 | ginge | alternatively, where am I best posting for real options on how to stop my carefully sized split windows from moving? |
| 00:27.54 | Shingoshi | Just now got upgrades for Slackware, but KDE was not among them. |
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| 00:28.51 | Nightstalker | anyone know where to get rpm2cpio ? |
| 00:28.57 | kdepepo | ginge, report a bug on bugs.kde.org |
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| 00:29.07 | ginge | kdepepo: cool. thanks |
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| 00:29.36 | kdepepo | it is a bit better in 4.2, ginge. But still too wide for me, too. I use Kate3. |
| 00:29.49 | LingusMcGunny | Hi, i'm running KDE 3.5.9 on NetBSD/i386 4.0. How can i configure my KDE apps to use convmv? Is there a control panel option or something somewhere? |
| 00:29.56 | quambo | my system tray icons have just been black boxes since building kde last. Anyone know where they should be stored and if this is a bug? |
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| 00:33.15 | ginge | okay, I see a couple of reports on that bug already.15994 and 192063. Will add my comment. Thanks. |
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| 00:34.17 | ginge | Another one for you then... with compositing turned on, some programs just appear as an empty box with a window border. Cadsoft's Eagle PCB for example. Any known workarounds? |
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| 00:37.05 | Nightstalker | localhost ~ # ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81) |
| 00:37.05 | Nightstalker | ASSERT: "!icon.isEmpty()" in konq_pixmapprovider.cc (81) |
| 00:37.05 | Nightstalker | grep: /etc/*version: No such file or directory |
| 00:37.05 | Nightstalker | which: no rpm2cpio in (/sbin:/sbin:/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/opt/bin:/usr/athena/sbin:/usr/i586-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/bin:/opt/blackdown-jdk-1.4.2.03/jre/bin:/usr/kde/3.5/sbin:/usr/kde/3.5/bin:/usr/qt/3/bin:/opt/java/bin |
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| 00:38.21 | pinotree | Nightstalker: you might want to ask in the channel of your distro to know how you can install rpm2cpio |
| 00:38.36 | Nightstalker | yes, this thing is making me angry |
| 00:38.38 | Nightstalker | :) |
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| 00:39.40 | pinotree | well, asking in the wrong channel won't make it better... |
| 00:41.00 | ginge | hmm will file a report. cya |
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| 00:46.50 | termite473841 | what |
| 00:47.01 | termite473841 | is the difference between 4.1.80 and 4.1.81? |
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| 00:49.19 | pinotree | it is a developer snapshot |
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| 00:51.35 | BeteNoire | where can i disable ctrl&- shortcut which decreases font size in konsole? |
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| 00:52.55 | termite473841 | pinotree: bugfix? why a new snapshop 2 days after the beta? |
| 00:52.59 | termite473841 | snapshot |
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| 00:53.40 | pinotree | termite473841: the beta was taken actually one week before was released (just like with any other kde release) |
| 00:53.57 | Shingoshi | Why am I getting this when I try to install new themes from the net as root? I want to add new themes for my login manager. |
| 00:54.45 | pinotree | BeteNoire: like any other kde application, Settings â Configure shortcuts |
| 00:56.01 | termite473841 | pinotree: so it's just another snapshot, right? |
| 00:56.12 | pinotree | <pinotree> it is a developer snapshot |
| 00:56.21 | BeteNoire | you mean keyboard and mouse â shortcuts? |
| 00:56.23 | termite473841 | sorry :) |
| 00:56.25 | termite473841 | thanks |
| 00:56.34 | pinotree | BeteNoire: no i mean the main konsole menu |
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| 00:58.01 | BeteNoire | well... the problem is that i disabled all shortcuts but the action stays |
| 00:58.24 | VistaUser | my wobbling function doesnt work |
| 00:58.47 | Shingoshi | BeteNoire: Did you log out and back in again? It may not become effective until then. |
| 00:59.18 | BeteNoire | i just can't see that shortcut option |
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| 01:02.40 | VistaUser | whats difference between konsol and teminal? |
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| 01:04.43 | allen | I have ubuntu with KDE 4.1 desktop and it reboots back to sign in for no apparent reason solution? |
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| 01:18.14 | Cerulean | I'm trying to map some global shortcuts to commands. I do so using the item in systemsettings, but to no effect -- the shortcuts are just ignored as before. |
| 01:18.31 | Cerulean | I've logged out and logged back in, but still the same. I'm using openSUSE 11.0 and KDE4.1.1 |
| 01:18.49 | Cerulean | any ideas as to what's going wrong? |
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| 02:07.51 | FedoraNub | Hello |
| 02:08.03 | FedoraNub | im trying to install FC KDE and i cant... |
| 02:08.13 | FedoraNub | when it reuqests me the root password it crashes |
| 02:09.01 | FedoraNub | im using the live CD. if i I check the logs, when i run the liveinst i get some FATAL errors, such as FATAL ext3 module not present |
| 02:09.08 | FedoraNub | anyone already faced the problem_ |
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| 02:11.14 | karl_ | Is there a command I can use to access the kdm configurator? similar to kcontrol for 3.5? I'm in fluxbox and would like to change settings through the KDE configurator. |
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| 02:13.21 | Jucato | karl_: systemsettings (advanced tab -> Login Manager) |
| 02:13.31 | Jucato | FedoraNub: please ask in #fedora |
| 02:13.42 | karl_ | thank you kindly |
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| 02:16.07 | FedoraNub | Jucate I did :P |
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| 02:38.15 | phreak97 | hey all, I'm using slax on a usb drive to get back into my eee-pc after filling the hard drive (i think) and causing it to be unable to boot.. only i dont know the linux filestructure will enough to find any of my stuff.. |
| 02:38.32 | phreak97 | where are desktop items stored? |
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| 03:04.54 | scriptx | since using compiz in Ubuntu 8.10 w/KDE4, my Task Manager icons are.. all the same? all of the apps down there have the same icon. |
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| 03:08.17 | nolhay | where is the source for the cashew in kde 4.0? |
| 03:09.07 | nolhay | specifically 4.0.4 |
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| 03:27.07 | scriptx | anyone know how to enable the cube effect in kwin? |
| 03:27.47 | Zarin | scriptx, System settings -> desktop -> all effects, down the bottom there should be a "desktop cube" |
| 03:28.01 | Zarin | Assuming you are using 4.2 or a distro that has unofficially backported it |
| 03:28.02 | scriptx | it was not included in the latest release(s) |
| 03:28.05 | scriptx | due to stability |
| 03:28.22 | Zarin | Then you can't enable it without compiling your own KDE |
| 03:28.29 | scriptx | barf |
| 03:28.34 | scriptx | will just wait |
| 03:28.35 | scriptx | :) |
| 03:28.40 | scriptx | i really like what kwin has brought to the table |
| 03:28.49 | scriptx | i'm just so used to the cube by now |
| 03:28.58 | scriptx | that i must stick with compiz until i can get the kwin cube |
| 03:31.32 | raininja | i wish e17 would play better with kde4 |
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| 03:51.05 | zx2c4 | any way to force plasma to save its settings w/o calling kquitapp on it? |
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| 03:53.27 | Nightstalker | hey everyone |
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| 03:53.42 | Nightstalker | anyone use portato ? |
| 03:56.47 | esthar | Where can I find the updated info on kephal in KDE 4.2 fleshing out multi-monitor support? Perhaps ability to handle multiple X11 screens, or decent Xinerama support? |
| 03:59.05 | sabayonlive-2813 | has any one tried to install linux on a ps3 |
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| 03:59.34 | sabayonlive-2813 | any one here |
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| 03:59.39 | werdnum | hi! |
| 03:59.43 | sabayonlive-2813 | hi |
| 03:59.57 | werdnum | sudo acpitool -s seems to work at suspending my laptop, but the option on the KDE menu doesn't. |
| 04:00.02 | sabayonlive-2813 | I need help some one |
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| 07:16.41 | zx2c4 | why is my taskbar green? how can i change that |
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| 07:21.49 | burgua | hi all! |
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| 07:22.20 | burgua | after starting kde dont work arrow keys and touchpad |
| 07:23.12 | burgua | without X anything works |
| 07:23.28 | burgua | (except, maybe, touchpad) |
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| 07:25.29 | enyawix | is konversation for kde4* out yet? |
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| 07:29.37 | icwiener | enyawix: No. One guy is working hard atm to merge his porting efforts to the kde svn. It will still take some time though. |
| 07:30.45 | enyawix | I wish i cold help :( |
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| 07:30.54 | enyawix | could* |
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| 07:35.45 | icwiener | enyawix: At the moment there is nothing there to help. Just hundreds of merge conflics to be solved. If the code is in svn, this will change however. If you want to help, try asking in #konversation then. |
| 07:36.36 | enyawix | k |
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| 07:46.46 | Dumble | hello world ! |
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| 07:52.52 | Duesentrieb | hi all. since the last ubpdate (ubuntu 8.04, KDE 3.5.10), kded takes 100% CPU all the time. what can cause this? how to fix it? |
| 07:53.22 | Duesentrieb | the cmdline is kded [kdeinit] --new-startup |
| 07:57.30 | werdnum | Duesentrieb: alt-sysrq-i (joking) will stop that process. |
| 07:57.54 | Duesentrieb | werdnum: hey there :) |
| 07:58.12 | werdnum | hides. |
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| 07:59.03 | Duesentrieb | well i can kill it easily enough. But woun't I be missing it, then? Also... WTF GIVES? what is it doing? |
| 07:59.13 | Duesentrieb | it does that after every restart. |
| 07:59.33 | Duesentrieb | i can kill it and start a new instance. the new instance does not seem to have the problem. at least not when started with no params. |
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| 08:05.34 | scriptx | Duesentrieb: did you upgrade to 8.04? |
| 08:05.57 | Duesentrieb | no, it was a fresh install. |
| 08:05.59 | Duesentrieb | why? |
| 08:06.06 | scriptx | just wondering |
| 08:06.13 | scriptx | why not install 8.10 ? |
| 08:06.22 | scriptx | if you're going to install something fresh today :) |
| 08:07.04 | Duesentrieb | i'm not. |
| 08:07.31 | scriptx | oh. perhaps i misread when you said: <Duesentrieb> no, it was a fresh install. |
| 08:07.53 | Duesentrieb | i installed 8.04 when it was new, i did not upgrade to it. i stayed updated with patches since then. |
| 08:08.10 | Zombie | Are an of you artists who do art for KDELook? |
| 08:08.34 | Duesentrieb | i'll go to 8.10 when i got a couple of days to waste and a spare machine in case stuff breaks |
| 08:08.37 | Duesentrieb | i *need* my box :) |
| 08:09.04 | Duesentrieb | scriptx: so, how do i tell wtf kded is doing and why? |
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| 08:10.24 | scriptx | idk Duesentrieb. if it were me, i might try booting single user and making sure the packages aren't broken |
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| 08:15.25 | Duesentrieb | scriptx: why would a broken package lead to an infinite loop? in my experience, stuff like that leads to things failing to start... |
| 08:15.55 | scriptx | listen you're the one asking for help |
| 08:16.05 | scriptx | don't shoot me down if you don't like what i have to say |
| 08:16.20 | scriptx | ungrateful bastard. it's 3am ffs, good luck. |
| 08:16.23 | Duesentrieb | scriptx: sorry, didn't mean to. i'm trying to understand why I do things and what I'm looking for. |
| 08:17.08 | Duesentrieb | scriptx: didn't mean to spoil your evening. get some sleep. 9am here, i just woke up to a broken box :( |
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| 08:20.01 | Dumble | grmbl ! still have crashes with kmail :s |
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| 08:20.35 | shepherd | How can I change my default resolution in kde ? everytime I restart it goes back to something else |
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| 08:48.55 | Rasi | aseigo: i am really screwed here with this zsh thing... any idea how i could backtrace it? |
| 08:49.00 | Rasi | (watch my latest comment) |
| 08:49.34 | aseigo | Rasi: i'll catch up with it tomorrow. almost 2am here =) |
| 08:49.48 | Rasi | ah |
| 08:49.55 | Rasi | guess its time to build another sun :) |
| 08:50.10 | Rasi | timezones are so nineties |
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| 09:03.36 | scriptx | Duesentrieb: no harm :) i understand your pain\ |
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| 09:34.30 | shepherd | How do I make a different resolution "automatic" |
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| 09:41.00 | gkiagia | shepherd: what do you mean? |
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| 09:49.48 | shepherd | gkiagia: my computer always starts in 1280x800, and then I have to change it to 1680x1050 manually |
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| 09:54.18 | gkiagia | shepherd: that's more of an xorg configuration problem, although kde (at least 3.5) is also able to remember the resolution by a configuration option in kcontrol |
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| 09:55.05 | shepherd | gkiagia: alright, thanks |
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| 10:33.23 | slimjimflim | anybody know how to get konsole to flash when i get a notification |
| 10:33.34 | slimjimflim | er flash in the taskbar? |
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| 10:34.45 | Jucato | slimjimflim: Settings menu -> Configure Notifications in tandem with View menu -> Monitor for Activity perhaps? |
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| 10:36.26 | slimjimflim | oh i bet it's activity detected in a monitored session |
| 10:36.29 | slimjimflim | then through view |
| 10:37.19 | slimjimflim | nope, that triggers any keystroke |
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| 10:37.41 | slimjimflim | so in irssi i hit /beep to get it to beep |
| 10:37.55 | slimjimflim | i can't find where to disable the beep in notifications |
| 10:38.12 | slimjimflim | oo, but it is flashing in the taskbar now |
| 10:39.00 | Jucato | the beep is coming from irssi, not Konsole |
| 10:39.10 | slimjimflim | oh |
| 10:39.12 | Jucato | (unless you enabled it in Konsole in COnfigure Notifications) |
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| 10:40.08 | slimjimflim | jucato, idk how to get the notifications to connect w/ the beep |
| 10:40.24 | Jucato | then no |
| 10:40.28 | Jucato | it's irssi |
| 10:40.51 | slimjimflim | no what?...take it to #irssi? |
| 10:41.10 | Jucato | no it's not Konsole beeping :) |
| 10:41.14 | slimjimflim | ook |
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| 10:43.29 | slimjimflim | jucato, ok, now everytime the minute changes i get notified |
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| 10:43.45 | slimjimflim | so it flashes and gives me a little popup box on the taskbar |
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| 10:44.49 | Jucato | remove the popup if you want |
| 10:45.00 | slimjimflim | oooo, it's under bell |
| 10:45.07 | slimjimflim | it IS konsole doing it |
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| 10:45.22 | slimjimflim | settings -> bell |
| 10:45.25 | Jucato | slimjimflim: that removes *any* bell notification in Konsole |
| 10:45.38 | Jucato | that include the "bell" when you mistype commands |
| 10:46.02 | Jucato | or like when you hit Tab twice |
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| 11:04.43 | Dimple | i |
| 11:04.45 | Dimple | hi |
| 11:05.31 | Dimple | simple question: currently my files in ~/Desktop do not appear as icons on my desktop. How to configure kde4 to get this behavior? |
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| 11:13.44 | chakie_work | hi folks |
| 11:14.45 | chakie_work | any ideas what might be wrong when i have no desktop on my other monitor? i can drag windows there and use them but there are no plasma stuff (background, popup menu etc) |
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| 11:20.51 | chakie_work | i assume nobody has seen this bug before |
| 11:21.34 | chakie_work | upgrading to intrepid seems to have broken lots that worked in hardy |
| 11:21.48 | annma | hmmm is it KDE? |
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| 11:24.03 | chakie_work | annma: i guess plasma is a part of kde? |
| 11:24.17 | annma | and? |
| 11:24.37 | annma | intrepid and hardy are not parts of kde |
| 11:24.42 | MadneX | How can i delete from the menu a software already uninstalled ?? - KDE 4.1.3 |
| 11:25.02 | annma | MadneX: use menu editor, right click on menu icon to access it |
| 11:25.27 | annma | rerunning kbuildsycoca4 might also update the menu |
| 11:25.31 | annma | for kde4 |
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| 11:26.16 | chakie_work | annma: ah, no, of course not |
| 11:27.29 | chakie_work | all my keyboard shortcuts were lost in the upgrade which is slightly annoying. lots of repainting issues in apps |
| 11:28.03 | annma | chakie_work: instead of mentioning distros, in this channel can you speak in terms of KDE versions? |
| 11:28.13 | annma | upgrade from what KDE to what? |
| 11:28.19 | chakie_work | annma: 4.1.3 it seems to be |
| 11:28.20 | annma | that would be more useful |
| 11:28.27 | MadneX | annma, thanks for the answer, but.. where is menu editor? i can't find it.. |
| 11:28.32 | annma | FROM what TO what |
| 11:28.47 | annma | MadneX: right click on menu icon |
| 11:29.11 | chakie_work | annma: 4.1.2 to 4.1.3 as a part of kubuntu 8.04 to 8.10 |
| 11:29.44 | chakie_work | it seems every distro manages to break kde as they package it |
| 11:29.52 | annma | well KDE from 4.1.2 to 4.1.3 only did bugfixes |
| 11:30.00 | annma | the rest does not concern us |
| 11:30.08 | annma | we don't want distro flame here |
| 11:30.21 | annma | complain to the proper channels please |
| 11:30.26 | MadneX | annma, i remember that on kde 3.5, kde 4.1 doesnt have that ;-( |
| 11:30.31 | psteyn | archlinux doesn't :P |
| 11:30.45 | annma | KDE 4.1.3 should not break anything from 4.1.2 as only bug fixes went in |
| 11:31.06 | annma | MadneX: I have it |
| 11:31.24 | annma | top menu entry when I right click |
| 11:31.53 | chakie_work | annma: it's pretty hard for a newbie to know what belongs where, especially as the components don't seem like something distros would meddle with |
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| 11:33.52 | annma | well I tell you |
| 11:34.07 | annma | asking distro channel first is always the best anyway |
| 11:34.21 | annma | as they will forward bugs to us anyway |
| 11:34.34 | MadneX | annma, thanks a lot, just find't :-) |
| 11:34.34 | annma | bugs that are trully ours though |
| 11:34.45 | annma | MadneX: :) |
| 11:35.20 | Dedi | how i hate dolphin |
| 11:35.32 | annma | use konqueror |
| 11:35.49 | annma | you never need to use anything in Linux world |
| 11:35.56 | annma | you always have several choices |
| 11:37.20 | chakie_work | dolphin is nice... that little app i just love i kde4 |
| 11:37.36 | Dedi | true but konqueror isnt really better :) |
| 11:38.19 | annma | Dedi: instead of saying useless stuff like that, can you better say what you want? |
| 11:38.24 | Dedi | chakie_work: i applied at least 15 times any settings and they all get resettet when dolphin crashes, and it crashes alot |
| 11:38.30 | annma | bah |
| 11:38.33 | annma | really |
| 11:38.42 | annma | tell me to make it crash |
| 11:39.25 | annma | I never crashed it except in a well know thing |
| 11:39.25 | chakie_work | Dedi: well, yes, most kde4 apps forget their settings when logging out, so don't configure anything :) |
| 11:39.25 | annma | ???? |
| 11:39.25 | annma | really guys |
| 11:39.25 | Dedi | annma: the last time: use split mode, move files :> |
| 11:39.25 | annma | you're saying nonsense |
| 11:39.31 | annma | I do that all day long Dedi |
| 11:39.50 | chakie_work | dolphin doesn't crash for m either, but it does forget all settings |
| 11:39.54 | annma | Dedi: I test KDE with a new .kde4 folder then I move the old one |
| 11:40.05 | annma | chakie_work: ??? what settings???? |
| 11:40.06 | Dedi | chakie_work: hm the only thing i lose settings is plasma when crashing, but they get permanently saved when using kquitapp plasma, which seems not to work with dolphin |
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| 11:40.15 | annma | lol guys |
| 11:40.20 | annma | you are so mixed up |
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| 11:40.23 | chakie_work | annma: default view mode, split mode, expandable tree etc |
| 11:40.37 | annma | chakie_work: OK now open an editor |
| 11:40.55 | chakie_work | done |
| 11:41.26 | annma | in your $KDEHOME/share/config open dolphinrc |
| 11:41.35 | chakie_work | luckily dolphin doesn't crash for me so i only have to setup the settings once ever few weeks |
| 11:41.57 | annma | every few weeks? |
| 11:42.11 | annma | so when does it forget its settings? |
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| 11:42.20 | Dedi | i should be happy anyway, compared to dolphin 3 months ago its really good now :D |
| 11:42.22 | chakie_work | when it's closed |
| 11:42.29 | chakie_work | ie when i log out |
| 11:43.09 | annma | what setting then? |
| 11:43.11 | chakie_work | annma: you mean d3lphinrc? |
| 11:43.24 | annma | chakie_work: I am talking of kde4 |
| 11:43.33 | annma | dolphin is a kde4 app, was not a kde3 one |
| 11:44.03 | annma | so first when you complain about something complain in an efficient way: tell the version and the real problem |
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| 11:44.17 | annma | what dolphin does not keep its settings and when? |
| 11:44.20 | chakie_work | oh, i'm sorry, there was a dolphinrc there too |
| 11:44.30 | chakie_work | kde4's dolphin |
| 11:44.35 | marek_ | hi, can you help me with kde 4.2? i have no programs in menu... |
| 11:44.36 | chakie_work | no kde3 here anymore |
| 11:44.42 | Dedi | im talkin too about kde4 :) |
| 11:44.47 | chakie_work | not since 4.1.0 |
| 11:44.48 | annma | marek_: using what KDE? |
| 11:44.55 | marek_ | annma 4.2 |
| 11:44.59 | marek_ | beta 1 |
| 11:45.15 | annma | marek_: where from? |
| 11:45.23 | marek_ | and second question - what is internal extender for? |
| 11:45.34 | marek_ | annma from nighty repo |
| 11:45.49 | annma | known problem of neon project, complain elsewhere |
| 11:45.59 | chakie_work | ah, now my second screen has received half a wallpaper, but still no cashew or menu |
| 11:46.07 | annma | my daily build has menu |
| 11:46.10 | marek_ | annma ok ill wait for updates |
| 11:46.19 | annma | complain to them |
| 11:46.27 | annma | why do you use that stuff? |
| 11:46.51 | annma | chakie_work: for dual screens look at bugs.kde.org, I don't use 2 monitors |
| 11:47.03 | marek_ | annma kde 4.2? |
| 11:47.17 | annma | yes marek_ why do you use these builds? |
| 11:47.38 | marek_ | well i have one good reason for now, kde 4.1 dont have multipe rows in task manager |
| 11:47.46 | annma | chakie_work: so what setting is not kept after logout? |
| 11:48.04 | chakie_work | annma: default view mode for instance |
| 11:48.05 | annma | marek_: and your distro did not ship beta 1? |
| 11:48.16 | chakie_work | annma: i want "details" and exandable trees |
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| 11:48.27 | annma | chakie_work: tell me the procedure |
| 11:48.35 | annma | what to set |
| 11:48.46 | marek_ | annma i added repo for my kubuntu 8.10 |
| 11:48.48 | marek_ | thats all |
| 11:49.00 | marek_ | there was no beta in official repos |
| 11:49.01 | annma | marek_: so complain to #kubuntu |
| 11:49.09 | annma | or build from source |
| 11:49.17 | annma | you'll have all your progs in your menu |
| 11:49.29 | annma | chakie_work: what menu? what setting? |
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| 11:50.05 | chakie_work | annma: the "Details" check button in the tool bar for instance |
| 11:50.09 | chakie_work | annma: it's not preserved |
| 11:50.17 | annma | when you log out it's not? |
| 11:50.27 | annma | what about when you quit dolphin then |
| 11:50.33 | annma | and restart it |
| 11:50.37 | annma | in the same session |
| 11:51.39 | annma | hmm indeed it is not preserved!!! |
| 11:51.40 | annma | wtf |
| 11:51.50 | annma | chakie_work: is tehre a bug report about that? |
| 11:52.29 | chakie_work | annma: i haven't looked |
| 11:52.35 | annma | please do so |
| 11:52.36 | chakie_work | annma: but it's done that for me since 4.1.0 |
| 11:52.40 | annma | what the hell really |
| 11:52.50 | annma | yes then you MUST report it |
| 11:52.52 | chakie_work | so i'd be suprised if it wasn't known |
| 11:53.12 | annma | if everybody does like you it won't be known |
| 11:53.24 | annma | the dolphin devel is not in IRC |
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| 11:53.32 | chakie_work | but my settings usually vanish when i log out, not when i restart apps |
| 11:53.34 | annma | so whatever I'll shout will not be heard |
| 11:53.40 | chakie_work | ok :) |
| 11:53.48 | annma | did you test as I said or not? |
| 11:54.03 | chakie_work | yes, that works |
| 11:54.08 | chakie_work | start, set, restart |
| 11:54.08 | annma | did you set it and then close dolphion and restart it? |
| 11:54.13 | chakie_work | works as expected |
| 11:54.14 | annma | that works???? |
| 11:54.18 | chakie_work | yes |
| 11:54.19 | annma | really????????????? |
| 11:54.27 | chakie_work | logging out/in does not for me |
| 11:54.30 | annma | so what was added in dolphinrc? |
| 11:54.34 | annma | PLEASE |
| 11:54.37 | annma | be focused |
| 11:54.42 | chakie_work | yes, i set up dolhin now as i wanted, quit it and started |
| 11:54.44 | annma | do not mix everything |
| 11:55.00 | annma | so pastebin dolphinrc please |
| 11:55.07 | chakie_work | to be focused |
| 11:55.22 | annma | you said it's details view and expandable tree |
| 11:55.23 | chakie_work | i do think the whole issue is that shutdowns never finish cleanly |
| 11:55.35 | annma | that's not a kde issue then |
| 11:55.37 | chakie_work | if i log out from kde, it never finishes |
| 11:55.41 | annma | please pastebin your dolphinrc |
| 11:55.53 | chakie_work | ok, hang on |
| 11:55.54 | annma | so that I can see why mine is not restored |
| 11:56.25 | annma | and if NONE of your settings are kept why do you blame dolphin??? |
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| 11:56.57 | chakie_work | not everything is always lost, so settings are retained |
| 11:57.00 | chakie_work | "some" |
| 11:57.51 | annma | what are "some" then? |
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| 11:58.09 | chakie_work | kmail seems to never lose anything. konqueror works too |
| 11:58.23 | chakie_work | konsole loses, dolphin loses |
| 11:58.36 | chakie_work | plasma loses |
| 11:58.46 | annma | ok so post your dolphinrc so I can see how this setting is saved as it's not kept for me |
| 11:58.57 | chakie_work | http://rafb.net/p/kHCs3o19.html |
| 11:59.28 | chakie_work | lin #3 was edited, included a dew fish:// entries i don't want to share |
| 11:59.35 | chakie_work | "a few" |
| 12:00.06 | annma | thanks yes |
| 12:00.23 | annma | so I have to check why the config is not written for me |
| 12:00.29 | annma | thanks, taht's helpful |
| 12:00.50 | annma | so: dolphin keeps its settings on restart in same session, settings are correctly written |
| 12:00.56 | chakie_work | yes |
| 12:01.00 | chakie_work | seems to do |
| 12:01.03 | chakie_work | nowadays |
| 12:01.07 | annma | I don't see why logging out would erase this file |
| 12:01.10 | chakie_work | didn't do that in 4.1.0 |
| 12:01.22 | annma | we're now, please bare with me |
| 12:01.38 | chakie_work | yeah, i'm sorry |
| 12:01.39 | annma | backup this file in dolphinrc.bak |
| 12:01.46 | annma | keep the dolphinrc |
| 12:02.03 | annma | i.e. copy dolphinrc to dolphinrc.bak or soemthing |
| 12:02.10 | chakie_work | done |
| 12:02.22 | annma | when you log out next time, look at the dolphinrc |
| 12:02.45 | annma | compare it to the .bak and see if it was rewritten or erased |
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| 12:03.29 | annma | after next login compare dolphinrc and dolphinrc.bak, provided you don't change the view setting |
| 12:03.32 | chakie_work | will do |
| 12:03.34 | Dimple | simple question: currently my files in ~/Desktop do not appear as icons on my desktop. How to configure kde4 to get this behavior? |
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| 12:03.38 | annma | and tell me about it |
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| 12:03.48 | chakie_work | i have it now set up as i want, i won't touch any more settings |
| 12:03.54 | annma | Dimple: they are in folderview |
| 12:04.11 | Dimple | annma: folderview? what is it? |
| 12:04.21 | annma | what kde version? |
| 12:04.28 | Dimple | annma: 4.1 or so |
| 12:04.52 | annma | ok so when you log first time in kde, you don't have Desktop folderview on your desktop? |
| 12:05.26 | Dimple | is it that black box that I closed ? |
| 12:05.47 | annma | http://www.kde.org/announcements/4.1/screenshots/desktop.png |
| 12:05.54 | Dimple | I thought it could be but I don't know how to reopen it ;) |
| 12:05.55 | annma | like top one here |
| 12:06.15 | annma | right click on desktop, Add Widgets, add Folderview |
| 12:06.31 | Dimple | aha, let us see |
| 12:07.37 | Dimple | annma: except it is not in the list! |
| 12:08.30 | annma | Dimple: ask your distro about it then |
| 12:08.44 | annma | KDE ships it as default, distros cut stuff into pieces |
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| 12:09.41 | Dimple | well it was here when I started it for the first time |
| 12:09.55 | Dimple | I closed it cause it was an empty black box |
| 12:10.03 | annma | it must be in the list then |
| 12:10.12 | Dimple | annma: thanks anyways, now that I know the name of it, I'll find it |
| 12:10.17 | annma | I know that KUbuntu ships it separately for ex |
| 12:15.43 | thechef | I clearly type kdesvn into the Alt+F2 dialog in kde4, but it starts KDE Bugbuster. It looks like it starts what that "search" thread currently holds even in case it doesn't match the search. Quite weird. |
| 12:16.32 | annma | kdesvn does nothing for me in krunner |
| 12:16.47 | thechef | It needs to be installed :D |
| 12:16.57 | annma | what is kdesvn exactly? |
| 12:17.08 | thechef | SVN tool for KDE |
| 12:17.14 | annma | really? |
| 12:17.14 | thechef | Whatever if i type too fast it starts the wrong program |
| 12:17.19 | werdnum | ask a stupid question... |
| 12:17.33 | chakie_work | ugh, now konsole has lost all the profiles i use |
| 12:17.33 | annma | I use KDE svn trunk and I don't have this kdesvn |
| 12:17.49 | annma | chakie_work: after logout? |
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| 12:18.08 | annma | chakie_work: profiles ar ein $KDEHOME/share/apps/konsole I think |
| 12:18.17 | thechef | umm yeah, I don't think the application matters, because it looks like krunner is doing something wrong |
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| 12:18.46 | chakie_work | annma: yeah, i just started needing my profiles after my login two hours ago |
| 12:19.09 | chakie_work | i had several ssh profiles there |
| 12:19.28 | kamathln | i have a laptop with 128 mb ram .. is KDE ok for it ? |
| 12:20.22 | annma | kamathln: seems too low |
| 12:20.32 | annma | for any desktop environment |
| 12:20.39 | annma | look for small distros probably |
| 12:21.03 | annma | kamathln: ask in #linux and look at forums and google |
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| 12:21.16 | annma | I think KDE requires 256 Mb RAM |
| 12:21.38 | kamathln | annma: thx |
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| 12:21.54 | kamathln | i think i will stick with e till i upgrade ram |
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| 12:26.47 | blip- | hi all, i want to have a local project on Quanta/KDEwebdev where the files are stored on my machine, but I want 1 click publishing ability to an ftp server... is it true that this cannot be done ? because when i tried to make a remote project then it ends up using the files on the remote server and editing them. what can i do ? thanks |
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| 12:27.15 | FreakGuard | how to tell the kde apps to close and save their settings? |
| 12:27.42 | annma | you quit a kde app and it writes its settings |
| 12:27.51 | annma | FIle -> Quit generally |
| 12:28.17 | FreakGuard | annma, is there an "all-kill" switch? |
| 12:28.23 | annma | blip-: maybe there'a a #quanta channel |
| 12:28.27 | FreakGuard | like for shutdown (except I'm not using kdm) |
| 12:28.37 | annma | FreakGuard: ouch, all-kill sounds drasktik |
| 12:28.46 | annma | why do yo want that? |
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| 12:29.07 | FreakGuard | annma, I'm using fluxbox with some kde apps, and "halt" is my usual way to shutdown |
| 12:29.14 | annma | if you shutdown apps will keep their settings |
| 12:29.20 | annma | no problem then |
| 12:29.32 | FreakGuard | annma, not really |
| 12:29.34 | annma | I also do halt from terminal from time to time |
| 12:29.41 | FreakGuard | X is down faster than kde apps... |
| 12:29.47 | annma | ? |
| 12:29.58 | Phlogi | can anyone reproduce http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=113289 ? How does it look like on your system? |
| 12:29.59 | annma | yesterday I typed halt from KDE konsole |
| 12:30.15 | annma | and everyting was saved FreakGuard |
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| 12:30.32 | Dimple | annma: I could find it thank you |
| 12:30.34 | annma | my kate was up with the correct session files |
| 12:30.46 | annma | and so on |
| 12:30.55 | annma | FreakGuard: ^^ |
| 12:30.57 | FreakGuard | annma, well |
| 12:31.17 | annma | I don't think "X is down faster than kde apps" |
| 12:31.43 | annma | nice Dimple :) |
| 12:32.11 | Dimple | in any case, impressive the effort made on kde4 |
| 12:32.37 | annma | thanks Dimple :) |
| 12:32.51 | Dimple | I compiled it when it was first available in gentoo, the difference is so big with what I see now |
| 12:32.59 | FreakGuard | annma, I'll check full KDE later on ;) |
| 12:33.30 | annma | Dimple: yes and it'll keep improving! |
| 12:33.43 | FreakGuard | annma, isn't konsole pretty slow? try urxvt :) |
| 12:33.49 | annma | FreakGuard: this shouldn't happen that you loose kde settings when you issue halt |
| 12:33.54 | annma | ??? |
| 12:33.59 | annma | pretty slow???? |
| 12:34.10 | annma | how do yo measure a terminal slowness???? |
| 12:34.13 | annma | tell me |
| 12:34.17 | FreakGuard | annma, starting? |
| 12:34.20 | annma | LOL |
| 12:34.26 | annma | it starts instantly |
| 12:34.31 | annma | it's restored from session |
| 12:34.42 | FreakGuard | so it's loaded before ^^ |
| 12:34.59 | annma | what machine do you have so you can measure konsole start versus some other terminal? |
| 12:35.07 | annma | it's loaded at start |
| 12:35.13 | annma | not "before" |
| 12:36.00 | FreakGuard | well |
| 12:36.02 | annma | i don't have this urxvt on my system |
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| 12:36.10 | FreakGuard | it's called rxvt-unicode |
| 12:36.35 | annma | rx does not complete to anything, I don't have it |
| 12:36.42 | annma | anyway I love konsole |
| 12:36.47 | FreakGuard | annma, distro? |
| 12:37.03 | annma | I can install it |
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| 12:37.15 | annma | but I bet it'll look like a 70s geek thing |
| 12:37.34 | FreakGuard | depens on what you config ;) |
| 12:37.40 | annma | I don't config |
| 12:37.44 | FreakGuard | I'm using that and yakuake here |
| 12:37.47 | annma | I usually use vanilla apps |
| 12:38.01 | FreakGuard | I usually use vanilla configure apps ;) |
| 12:38.04 | annma | I don't like yakuake |
| 12:38.29 | Jucato | aw.. :P |
| 12:38.38 | annma | anyway I doubt that on a dual core with 3Gb RAM one terminal starts faster than another |
| 12:38.39 | FreakGuard | Jucato, on what? |
| 12:38.48 | FreakGuard | annma, point taken |
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| 12:38.54 | Jucato | on annma ;) |
| 12:39.01 | annma | I am not a geek |
| 12:39.11 | annma | I love good looking and modern apps |
| 12:39.11 | Jucato | O.O |
| 12:39.16 | Sho_ | annma: You don't like Yakuake? *sobs* |
| 12:39.19 | annma | no VI and emacs for me |
| 12:39.25 | annma | sorry Sho_ |
| 12:39.28 | FreakGuard | I'm using either |
| 12:39.29 | annma | I do love konvi |
| 12:39.31 | FreakGuard | I use vim ;) |
| 12:39.45 | FreakGuard | ehh *neither |
| 12:39.48 | annma | some tools are typically "geek-tools" |
| 12:39.58 | FreakGuard | the ones you can work fast with? |
| 12:40.22 | Jucato | if you need to have a konsole window always open. then you are a geek. you can simply roll yakuake away when you don't need it >:) |
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| 12:40.36 | FreakGuard | Jucato, I need it ;) |
| 12:40.43 | FreakGuard | at least a root and a user console :D |
| 12:40.46 | Jucato | FreakGuard: that was for annma :) |
| 12:40.53 | FreakGuard | Jucato, hehe |
| 12:41.06 | FreakGuard | but I miss something like 95% width in yakuake |
| 12:41.24 | FreakGuard | 90% is too small (<80) and 100% looks ugly |
| 12:41.24 | Jucato | only uses vim for very quick edits on the command line. for more intense and multi-file editing, he uses kate |
| 12:41.38 | Sho_ | FreakGuard: If you want to know a secret, it does accept "95" in the settings file ;) |
| 12:41.38 | annma | I need konsole all the time |
| 12:41.50 | FreakGuard | Sho_, thought something like that |
| 12:41.51 | Jucato | annma: then you *are* a geek :P |
| 12:41.52 | annma | I put it on the devel desktop Jucato |
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| 12:42.08 | FreakGuard | Sho_, where is that one? |
| 12:42.19 | FreakGuard | Sho_, ups. wrong folder finded |
| 12:42.29 | Sho_ | FreakGuard: ~/.kde/share/config/yakuakerc or ~/.kde4/share/config/yakuakerc depending on your distro/KDE ver |
| 12:42.45 | Jucato | [Window] group, Height/Width property |
| 12:42.47 | annma | OH GOSH this urxvt!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:42.51 | annma | now |
| 12:42.55 | annma | !!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:42.59 | annma | faints |
| 12:43.05 | FreakGuard | Sho_, eh? there's just a Height :( |
| 12:43.15 | annma | no tabs??? |
| 12:43.29 | FreakGuard | annma, urxvt-tabbed |
| 12:43.34 | Sho_ | FreakGuard: Probably because you're on Width 90, which is the default, and KDE files only save stuff in their config that deviates from the global default |
| 12:43.35 | annma | LOL |
| 12:43.38 | annma | really |
| 12:43.47 | annma | who wants such an old thing |
| 12:43.49 | Sho_ | FreakGuard: I.e. just close Yakuake, add Width= with the value you want to the file (in [Window] as Jucato says) and then start Yakuake |
| 12:43.54 | FreakGuard | Sho_, hm :( |
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| 12:44.10 | Jucato | FreakGuard: why ":("? |
| 12:44.31 | annma | we're in times of modern Linux where we can compete with other OSs, we don't want things like this |
| 12:44.35 | Jucato | it's not like you can't add the width or height property if it isn't written there yet :) |
| 12:44.36 | FreakGuard | hrhr *grin |
| 12:45.00 | FreakGuard | annma, define "modern". fancy-looking but not really useful? |
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| 12:45.09 | Sho_ | annma: Well as far as competing with other OSs goes, just about any X11 terminal emulator is better than Windows' cmd.exe ;) |
| 12:45.21 | FreakGuard | Jucato, sometimes I'm just mentally stuck :( |
| 12:45.37 | annma | FreakGuard: what is useful in a terminal is the shell |
| 12:45.56 | annma | teh terminal itself is just tohost the shell |
| 12:46.08 | annma | really this 70s look, I just hate it |
| 12:46.13 | FreakGuard | and the setting "layer +1" in the WM ;) |
| 12:46.31 | annma | konsole does the job as well as your thing and as fast |
| 12:47.03 | annma | it has pleasant colors taht don't strain my eyes |
| 12:47.08 | annma | that I can set |
| 12:47.16 | FreakGuard | .Xdefaults :P |
| 12:47.18 | annma | it has nice fonts that I can choose |
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| 12:47.27 | FreakGuard | actually I'm using a konsole theme in there ;) |
| 12:47.33 | annma | I can EASILY choose |
| 12:47.44 | annma | not freaking edit a config file |
| 12:47.54 | FreakGuard | what isn't easy about writing some numbers in a config file? |
| 12:47.58 | FreakGuard | or just c/p them? |
| 12:48.36 | FreakGuard | but hey, that's just 2 ideologies clashing, no sense - got some other things to do ^^ |
| 12:49.03 | annma | yes the geek way and the normal people way |
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| 12:49.25 | annma | I don't like wasting time in geek ways when I'm not a geek |
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| 12:49.46 | annma | hence konsole, kate, they are tools for people like me |
| 12:49.58 | annma | I do develop the same |
| 12:50.17 | annma | being a woman also maybe is a parameter |
| 12:50.49 | psteyn | pics or you aren't |
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| 12:50.59 | Jucato | psteyn: aren't want? |
| 12:51.04 | |Krooks| | I keep getting "Mp3 Audio Decoder plugin not found." frpm k3b but I have libmad installed already |
| 12:51.13 | psteyn | a woman :) |
| 12:51.14 | Jucato | psteyn: aren't what? |
| 12:51.21 | annma | pics? |
| 12:51.22 | psteyn | :P |
| 12:51.25 | Jucato | psteyn: google. she's not that hard to find |
| 12:51.30 | psteyn | sigh, im joking. |
| 12:51.42 | annma | :) |
| 12:51.45 | sigma_ | so when's k3b and konversation due out? wish i could at least give k3b a test run |
| 12:51.49 | psteyn | no girls on the interwebz meme etc |
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| 12:51.59 | Skrot- | this week in: internet memes gone wrong ^^ |
| 12:52.12 | annma | anyway I don't believe any terminal starts faster than another on today's hardware |
| 12:52.27 | Jucato | this month in: humor translates poorly over the internet |
| 12:52.32 | Skrot- | indeed |
| 12:52.35 | sigma_ | they are the only apps that are preventing me from having the total kde4 experience |
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| 12:52.55 | annma | ah we do want konvi for kde4, yes |
| 12:52.59 | annma | WE DO |
| 12:53.04 | Skrot- | yes we do |
| 12:53.09 | annma | sigma_: yell with me please |
| 12:53.15 | Skrot- | But I think k3b will be out before konvi, it's already in extragear |
| 12:53.16 | Tm_T | who does? |
| 12:53.20 | annma | WE DO |
| 12:53.24 | annma | the people |
| 12:53.24 | sigma_ | lol |
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| 12:53.36 | annma | stares at Sho_ |
| 12:53.42 | sigma_ | Skrot-: alpha, beta or rc? |
| 12:53.52 | Skrot- | sigma_: No idea, I've just seen it there |
| 12:53.53 | Tm_T | annma: you hu-man are weird |
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| 12:54.13 | annma | hey dear Sho_ when will we be totally happy in kde4? |
| 12:54.43 | Sho_ | if you're like me probably once that odd empty-space rectangle to the left of your Kickoff button that you can't figure out goes away |
| 12:54.46 | pinotree | k3b has no active developers, so there's nothing planned |
| 12:55.11 | Tm_T | hmm, I wonder how's Arson doing these days |
| 12:55.40 | |Krooks| | no active developer is not good |
| 12:55.43 | Sho_ | pinotree: Hm trueg no longer working on it? |
| 12:55.50 | annma | Sho_: the rectangle is gone in trunk |
| 12:56.02 | sigma_ | pinotree: i thought it was one of the flagship kde apps? |
| 12:56.03 | Sho_ | annma: cool, I'm on beta 1 atm |
| 12:56.07 | pinotree | Sho_: actively, no, he's working on nepomuk mostly |
| 12:56.15 | annma | ah yes was a bug in beta |
| 12:56.20 | pinotree | sigma_: and? |
| 12:56.46 | sigma_ | pinotree: shouldn't it have more than one dev? |
| 12:56.56 | pinotree | no |
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| 12:57.03 | Tm_T | sigma_: really should, but does it? (;) |
| 12:57.20 | Tm_T | being "a flagship" doesn't mean huge resources |
| 12:57.35 | pinotree | k3b in kde3 was mostly a "one man" product |
| 12:57.36 | Tm_T | just means you have a flag in your forehead or such |
| 12:57.39 | DawnLight | hello. i've the kubuntu kde 4.1.2 and kontact crashes part of the times after i start it and give it the wallet password. also when i press send on a message. the send issue is reproduceable. can i help some how? i don't program. and another thing is that i've been using debian etch and migrated my home directory to kubuntu intrepid so could this be the reason for crashes in kontact? |
| 12:57.51 | Jucato | there's a very thick line between "should" and "actually does" ;) |
| 12:58.06 | sigma_ | clearly not. i hate the kde3 k3b, looks so out of place amongst all the kde4 apps |
| 12:58.17 | Tm_T | Jucato: indeed |
| 12:58.37 | annma | sigma_: devels are people like you and me |
| 12:58.38 | Jucato | DawnLight: you could 1. upgrade to 4.1.3 (latest stable) and 2. check with other #kubuntu people (since it doesn't seem to be a general KDE issue) |
| 12:58.43 | annma | not aliens from outer space |
| 12:58.51 | annma | sigma_: ^^ |
| 12:59.00 | annma | just like YOU |
| 12:59.13 | |Krooks| | on k3b website. it says he is working on a kde4 port but with not too many new features, so he will call it vrsion 1.1 |
| 12:59.16 | sigma_ | oh one thing i did want to ask, has kiosk been upgraded to kde4? |
| 12:59.22 | DawnLight | Jucato: thanks |
| 12:59.59 | annma | kiosk is there |
| 13:00.05 | annma | kioskTOOL is not |
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| 13:00.25 | backblue | morning, how can i change the font's size in kde 4.1? |
| 13:00.39 | sigma_ | kiosktool is the gui? |
| 13:00.40 | annma | system settings -> appearance -> font |
| 13:00.43 | annma | yes |
| 13:00.52 | annma | lack of developers again |
| 13:01.21 | sigma_ | oh well guess its currently better for them to focus on the core desktop |
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| 13:02.37 | sigma_ | so guys what ever happened to the guy that created kde? dont hear much or anything about him these days |
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| 13:02.48 | backblue | no, i mean the shell command for doing that.. |
| 13:02.51 | annma | just read planetKDE or the dot |
| 13:02.55 | annma | or mailing lists |
| 13:03.04 | backblue | i tryed qtconfig but no success. |
| 13:03.09 | annma | he is still writing from time to time sigma_ |
| 13:03.25 | pinotree | backblue: why cannot you use the gui? |
| 13:03.50 | backblue | pinotree: i'm not running kde, and i cant run. |
| 13:03.57 | pinotree | ... and? |
| 13:04.11 | backblue | so how should i follow the gui, if i'm in gnome? |
| 13:04.22 | pinotree | you can run systemsettings in gnome, you know? |
| 13:04.47 | Sput | sigma_: he's head of R&D in Qt Software/Germany |
| 13:04.51 | Sput | (was used to be Trolltech) |
| 13:04.56 | Sput | *what |
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| 13:05.19 | msn | i just installed kde4 on my laptop.... |
| 13:05.25 | sigma_ | ah i see |
| 13:05.39 | Sput | mh, the really sad thing about k3b in KDE4 is that the port _almost_ works... the UI is usable, you can do everything, until you press the burn button and it just hangs |
| 13:05.43 | msn | the only problem is its just dimming the screen even with power connected |
| 13:06.04 | Sput | looks like it's just a matter of calling the cdrecord tools correctly, but then again, if it was that easy, it would be working by now |
| 13:06.19 | msn | and i have to use Fn+brightness every 2 mins to bring it abck to max |
| 13:06.46 | msn | powersave is set not to dim the screen |
| 13:08.58 | backblue | pinotree: thanks, this was the command i was looking for. |
| 13:09.21 | backblue | guys, do you know how do i enable konsole qt3 behaviour? |
| 13:09.34 | pinotree | that is? |
| 13:09.36 | sigma_ | Sput: hopefully it will be usable by the time kde4.2 is released |
| 13:09.38 | backblue | i need the bookmarks entry, on the bottom |
| 13:09.53 | backblue | the hold konsole add it, the new one, i dont find a way to do it. |
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| 13:14.35 | backblue | anyone? |
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| 13:16.52 | backblue | seems like i still have to use old konsole! :( |
| 13:17.31 | annma | what bookmarks entry |
| 13:17.43 | annma | don't you have a bookmark menu? |
| 13:18.39 | backblue | on the bottom? like the old one? |
| 13:19.19 | backblue | the old one, you just click on the button, choose the bookmark, and it open a new tab with it. |
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| 13:19.44 | backblue | on the new one, i just have the bookmarks on the top, and it does not open in a new tab. |
| 13:20.26 | annma | so what do you want from this bookmark thing? |
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| 13:23.46 | backblue | annma: if you dont use this i'm telling in the old konsole, will be hard to explain. |
| 13:24.16 | annma | konsole was rewritten |
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| 13:24.22 | Nyha | Every time I start KDE the Korganizer starts and this is a part of kdepim, can I make it start Kontact? |
| 13:24.31 | annma | if some functionality is not there and you want it, please issue a bug report |
| 13:24.40 | annma | backblue: |
| 13:27.10 | backblue | annma: http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase-apps/konsole/konsole.pdf |
| 13:27.21 | backblue | page 14, at the end of the page |
| 13:27.37 | backblue | "The bookmark list is displayed at the bottom of the menu. Select a bookmark to change to that location." |
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| 13:29.53 | Nakkel | I find this relevant to my interests, can anyone tell me more than what can be guessed from URL? http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/nokia-pim-suite |
| 13:30.16 | annma | you can svn that from kde svn |
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| 13:31.27 | Jimi__Hendrix | guys |
| 13:31.33 | Nakkel | Sure but its all encrypted in this weird cpp thingie. |
| 13:31.35 | Jimi__Hendrix | im haviing a problem with my panel |
| 13:32.04 | Jimi__Hendrix | the widgets arent horizontel...they are all small and verticle |
| 13:32.15 | Jimi__Hendrix | they won let me drag them so they are horizontal |
| 13:32.18 | Jimi__Hendrix | how do i fix this |
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| 13:52.32 | Jimi__Hendrix | anyone? |
| 13:54.10 | |Krooks| | Jimmy |
| 13:54.31 | |Krooks| | whats up jimmy boy |
| 13:57.51 | Jimi__Hendrix | the widgets arent horizontel...they are all small and verticle |
| 13:57.53 | Jimi__Hendrix | they won let me drag them so they are horizontal |
| 13:57.56 | Jimi__Hendrix | how do i fix this |
| 13:58.10 | Jimi__Hendrix | tahts whats up |Krooks| |
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| 14:01.45 | |Krooks| | Jimi__Hendrix: kde3 or kde4 ? |
| 14:02.09 | |Krooks| | are you smoking grass ? |
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| 14:09.41 | Jimi__Hendrix | kde4 |
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| 14:12.39 | junkDawgie | Jimi__Hendrix: do you have the toolbar appear when you mouse over the widget? |
| 14:13.47 | Jimi__Hendrix | i dont think so |
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| 14:15.41 | junkDawgie | you should first "unlock" the widgets by right-clicking an empty place on the plasma workspace and choose "unlock".... then hover over the widget you want to change and a toolbar will appear... the top icon on the toolbar changes the size by click-drag in any direction |
| 14:15.58 | Roland123 | what's the shortcut to minimize everything? |
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| 14:16.36 | junkDawgie | in kde4 there is a widget for that, look in "Add widgets" |
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| 14:31.14 | Roland123 | junkDawgie: i found that... but i'd like to know a keyboard shortcut |
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| 14:31.44 | junkDawgie | i'm not aware of one, roland |
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| 14:32.02 | Roland123 | darn |
| 14:33.40 | Roland123 | junkDawgie: but could you tell me, what's the dashboard? |
| 14:34.37 | Jucato | you could think of it as the desktop minus anything in the panel. it's a "layer" where all desktop applets lie |
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| 14:35.49 | junkDawgie | my understanding is that it refers to the plasma workspace..... what used to be called the "desktop"....think of it as a layer on top of the wallpaper..... where the plasmoids reside |
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| 14:37.36 | junkDawgie | you can call up the "dashboard" and then click a plasmoid, and then as the new window appears, the dashboard reverts to background again |
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| 14:38.23 | junkDawgie | you can see how that works by the Ctl+F12 shortcut |
| 14:38.53 | Roland123 | i think ctrl+F12 was the shortcut i was looking for |
| 14:39.18 | Roland123 | so thnx |
| 14:42.22 | Jucato | Show Desktop and Show Dashboard is practically the same except for two crucial differences: 1. Show Dashboard doesn't show the panel. Show Desktop does |
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| 14:43.09 | Jucato | 2. Show Desktop is actually "Minimize All Windows". so clicking on a minimized window will restore only that window and not the rest. but clicking/deactivating Show Dashboard "restores" everything |
| 14:44.07 | Roland123 | Jucato: i'd like to find a "Minimize all windows" keyboard shortcut... or assign it somehow but.. didn't find it in system settings -> keyboars |
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| 14:47.09 | Jucato | and some of them are broken anyway. maybe 4.2 |
| 14:49.20 | Roland123 | ah... so there's no minimize all... shortcut in 4.1... that explains alot.. |
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| 15:01.43 | vbgunz | curious. will there be an option to resize scrollbars width/height in 4.2? I find them quite small and hard to grab sometimes |
| 15:02.08 | vbgunz | particularly in the oxygen theme |
| 15:02.39 | Jucato | vbgunz: that's on a per style basis |
| 15:03.54 | vbgunz | Jucato: I really like the new scrollbars. there beautiful compared to 4.1. I just think theyre kind of small :( |
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| 15:08.32 | dereine | is it possible to turn off notifications |
| 15:08.34 | dereine | the new stlye |
| 15:09.33 | Jucato | which notifications? |
| 15:10.11 | dereine | the notifications from kopete, "kcopy" etc. |
| 15:10.19 | dereine | because they break very often kde4.2 |
| 15:10.39 | Jucato | ah I don't know. I'm still on 4.1 :) |
| 15:11.03 | dereine | has a very slow internet so i cannot switch back until next weekend |
| 15:15.10 | neverendingo | dereine: try configure -> configure notifications and disable all entries |
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| 15:16.01 | wesley_ | hi how do i add NL to kde dev |
| 15:16.13 | pinotree | ? |
| 15:16.24 | dereine | neverendingo: there is not a entry like this |
| 15:17.20 | pinotree | wesley_: what would you want to do? |
| 15:17.50 | wesley_ | add dutch as default |
| 15:18.12 | wesley_ | i want to install dutch laugange |
| 15:18.14 | pinotree | kcontrol/systemsettings â regional & accessibility â language & country |
| 15:18.24 | neverendingo | dereine: Settings -> configure notifications? |
| 15:18.37 | wesley_ | no its needs to be installed i have kde4.2 dev |
| 15:18.43 | dereine | neverendingo: ah there thx |
| 15:18.44 | pinotree | wesley_: if you have kde installed with distro packages, then ask in the channel of your distro for the package name |
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| 15:20.04 | pinotree | wesley_: then follow http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/Building_KDE's_l10n_Module, using nl instead of de, and ignoring templates and x-test |
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| 15:52.30 | |Krooks| | is it not possible to have a text file on my desktop on kde4 ? I right click on the desktop and no New in the context menu. |
| 15:53.09 | karthikp | |Krooks|: Add a folder view applet first. |
| 15:53.32 | annma | or drag any text file from dolphin to desktop |
| 15:53.38 | karthikp | Inside that, you can use it as a nocmal desktop (with icons) |
| 15:53.41 | annma | it'll get on the desktop as icon |
| 15:54.05 | annma | dragging from kmenu or dolphin or whatever will work too |
| 15:54.44 | karthikp | I understand there will be an option to have a full screen folderview in 4.2 (coming Jan). |
| 15:55.03 | karthikp | That will look like the traditional desktop. |
| 15:56.09 | |Krooks| | I see. Thanks. I'll try both ways and see which one I prefer |
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| 15:58.05 | |Krooks| | annma: your way not possible. I get a no entry sign when I drag the text file to the desktop. I'm using 4.1.80 |
| 15:58.43 | annma | weird I do |
| 15:58.58 | annma | you cannot drag anything on the desktop? |
| 15:59.25 | |Krooks| | annma: its ok. Widgets locked |
| 15:59.31 | annma | bah |
| 15:59.37 | |Krooks| | annma: sorry. My mistake |
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| 16:02.32 | mib_q07x3ay1 | Well bollixs ! |
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| 16:07.19 | wesley_ | pinotree, i downloaded the nl lauguage so how to install |
| 16:07.31 | elTigre | Hi, I think, "Lokalize" corrupts my .po files |
| 16:07.35 | pinotree | wesley_: it is explained in the guide |
| 16:07.38 | elTigre | and I can't figure out how to fix it... |
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| 16:07.48 | annma | elTigre: how corrupted? |
| 16:08.12 | elTigre | when compiling messages I get "msgid" und "msgstr" entry don't both begin with "\n" |
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| 16:08.37 | elTigre | I can't figure out at all, why that should matter |
| 16:09.15 | mohan_ | hi, does kmail provide offline mail support? |
| 16:09.18 | elTigre | or how to fix that |
| 16:09.35 | Emess | anyone know where I could find an SVG of the KDE gear logo? |
| 16:09.35 | elTigre | anma: I just don't know what the error message means |
| 16:09.43 | wesley_ | pinotree it doesnt really make sens |
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| 16:10.14 | pinotree | wesley_: what is the problem? you have to compile the translations, and install them |
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| 16:16.03 | |Krooks| | so I know some of you are developers in here. Are you guys on live version from svn ? |
| 16:16.17 | annma | of course |
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| 16:18.44 | |Krooks| | annma: let me guess. you are using gentoo ? |
| 16:18.53 | annma | we're using KDE svn |
| 16:19.05 | annma | not a distro |
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| 16:20.17 | balazsbela | Hello all, my friend buit kde4 using kdesvnbuild script |
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| 16:20.27 | balazsbela | and he sent me his directory containing the binaries |
| 16:20.31 | |Krooks| | annma: I know. But what distro are you using ? |
| 16:20.40 | balazsbela | I copied the bashrc from techbase, and set up a new user for it |
| 16:20.51 | balazsbela | but it won't start, here you can find my .xsession-errors file |
| 16:20.56 | balazsbela | http://pastebin.com/m11e31c8b |
| 16:21.31 | balazsbela | and here are the environment variables and the xsessions file http://pastebin.com/m70a16e67 |
| 16:22.10 | annma | the distro is not relevant, is it? |
| 16:22.30 | annma | |Krooks|: the distro has nothing with kde from svn |
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| 16:24.38 | |Krooks| | annma: its not relevant. Its just that gentoo has a nice source based build system and I'm just thinking that maybe many KDE developers like prefer to use it. Just curious. |
| 16:25.18 | |Krooks| | I'm using 4.1.80 snapshot. |
| 16:25.44 | |Krooks| | on Gentoo its very easy to get that on my system |
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| 16:28.51 | annma | what nice source based system |
| 16:29.06 | annma | you're using a gentoo snapshot |
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| 16:31.02 | balazsbela | what module should I compile to get gtk-qt-engine in kde4 ? |
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| 16:33.32 | |Krooks| | annma: well, not exactly called a 'gentoo snapshot'. Gentoo has got this packaging system called portage. This system has a kinda subsystem called overlays. One of the overlay is called kde-crazy, which you pick to install the snapshots or live. Its something like. |
| 16:34.10 | |Krooks| | annma: something like that. |
| 16:35.30 | annma | and do you still have the sources and build dir? |
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| 16:38.29 | |Krooks| | annma: yes. |
| 16:39.04 | |Krooks| | annma: #gentoo-kde . maybe you will see some familiar nicks in there. |
| 16:40.08 | annma | |Krooks|: developers who use gentoo usually use kde svn outside gentoo anyway |
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| 16:40.20 | annma | I would not bother myself to compile everything anyway |
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| 16:40.32 | |Krooks| | annma: ok |
| 16:40.45 | annma | I am not the type of person who likes to edit config files and such |
| 16:40.54 | annma | developers want control over the build |
| 16:41.01 | annma | they have their own scripts |
| 16:41.06 | |Krooks| | I see. |
| 16:41.24 | Gentle` | annma: technically portage always uses the same svn checkout directory, you could work on the code but that's highly impractical, so everyone who's serious about development of course uses kdesvn |
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| 16:41.38 | annma | that's what I said |
| 16:42.00 | annma | most developers I know who work on trunk use their own scripts and build their own way |
| 16:42.11 | annma | even those who are Gentoo-based |
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| 16:43.04 | annma | it's easier for us to check dependencies from cmake output for ex |
| 16:43.10 | Gentle` | the compilation system always uses a clean source directory, so it's really no fun to work on one file when everything will be recompiled every build ;) |
| 16:43.31 | annma | clean source dor? |
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| 16:43.40 | annma | clean source dir? |
| 16:43.44 | annma | or you mean BUILD dir |
| 16:44.22 | annma | |Krooks| said he keeps build and src |
| 16:44.49 | Gentle` | annma: first the source will be copied to a sandbox, then the build process is started there, after install the sandbox gets deleted, that's what makes development practically impossible |
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| 16:45.04 | Gentle` | annma: hence why I felt I should interfere |
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| 16:45.06 | |Krooks| | annma: sorry. I may be wrong. |
| 16:45.18 | annma | wekk so Gentoo is not for devels at all |
| 16:45.21 | annma | well |
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| 16:46.29 | mouka | gentoo is COOL |
| 16:46.37 | mouka | it's the best learning distro |
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| 16:46.45 | |Krooks| | ok here we go |
| 16:46.45 | Gentle` | annma: well that depends, you have very high control over what versions of which lib will be installed since you don't have to rely on linking consistency, but if your software should run on any distribution then such things shouldn't be needed |
| 16:47.15 | annma | I prefer installing my distro in a few clicks and a few minutes personally |
| 16:47.16 | Gentle` | annma: other than that, I wouldn't call it exactly developer friendly. Way too much distracting administrative work to keep track of ;) |
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| 16:47.52 | annma | Gentoo users are often mislead in thinking that we all use it for developing |
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| 16:47.59 | annma | we only use some scripts and that is |
| 16:48.56 | |Krooks| | annma: and those scripts auto builds from kdesnv ? |
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| 16:49.27 | stoned | hi |
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| 16:49.30 | annma | they auto-update for ex |
| 16:49.54 | |Krooks| | I see nice. |
| 16:49.54 | annma | other scripts allow to build a small part of KDE like for ex I am building konsole over and over to check a bug |
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| 16:50.20 | stoned | I'm not sure if I was amazingly stoned the other time when I read that article or if I was dreaming last night about it |
| 16:50.22 | |Krooks| | annma: sounds nice. |
| 16:50.23 | stoned | I can't remember which |
| 16:50.27 | stoned | but... |
| 16:50.29 | Gentle` | |Krooks|: see http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ for example. If you need to work on sourcecode, you really need your code in place so you can work on it and test compile in a flexible way |
| 16:50.36 | stoned | does php have bindings for the Qt toolkit? |
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| 16:50.46 | annma | sounds a pain you mean |Krooks| as I can't find why there's a bug |
| 16:51.08 | annma | Gentle`: more like techbase doc |
| 16:51.11 | annma | the scripts |
| 16:51.26 | |Krooks| | so where is git in all this ? |
| 16:51.34 | annma | no git yet |
| 16:51.43 | annma | some use git locally |
| 16:51.45 | |Krooks| | or is it a whole different story ? |
| 16:52.03 | annma | it's not a build matter |
| 16:52.04 | Gentle` | |Krooks|: git would allow flexible branching, you can import svn into git and then add your own branch to keep track of your patches for example |
| 16:52.25 | annma | it had drawbacks though |
| 16:52.31 | annma | nothing is all white |
| 16:52.59 | pinotree | stoned: yes, it is inkdebindings |
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| 16:55.10 | stoned | pinotree, ok |
| 16:55.22 | stoned | pinotree, that would be php-qt right? |
| 16:55.30 | pinotree | your guess i correct |
| 16:55.48 | stoned | yes because there wasn't a debian package called php-qt i could find |
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| 16:56.13 | stoned | I tried gtk2 in php |
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| 16:56.23 | stoned | I'm not really down with gtk, I just loath it |
| 16:56.26 | stoned | ew. |
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| 16:57.11 | stoned | listen to how weird this was and I hope qt isn't this way |
| 16:57.28 | stoned | you can't put two of the same control in a gtkwindow object |
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| 16:57.45 | stoned | you have to add containers of vertical or horizontal types and stuff your controls in there |
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| 16:57.54 | stoned | your other option is to make them using glade |
| 16:58.02 | stoned | which is again horrible horrible terrible! |
| 16:59.23 | stoned | pinotree, what about Qt bindings for Mono/C# |
| 16:59.26 | stoned | like Qt# or something? |
| 16:59.30 | stoned | lika a gtk# there is |
| 16:59.37 | pinotree | Qyoto, always in kdebindings |
| 16:59.37 | stoned | is there anything of the sort? |
| 16:59.40 | stoned | AHHHH |
| 16:59.42 | stoned | that was the one |
| 16:59.49 | stoned | crazy 5 lettered wor dI was looking for |
| 16:59.50 | stoned | thanks |
| 16:59.59 | stoned | so I wasn't dreaming |
| 17:00.01 | pinotree | kdebindings should be your favourite place :) |
| 17:00.03 | stoned | I was just really stoned |
| 17:00.03 | stoned | :) |
| 17:00.07 | stoned | thanks bro |
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| 17:02.08 | stoned | you know |
| 17:02.10 | stoned | I don't like C++ |
| 17:02.12 | mohan_ | hello, does kmail support offline folder facility? |
| 17:02.31 | stoned | what means offline folder mohan_ ? |
| 17:02.53 | stoned | if your mails are downloaded to local machine you can view them in kmail if thats what you mean |
| 17:02.55 | rdale | i guess c++ is even worse after the fifth bong |
| 17:03.04 | mohan_ | stoned: even if i am not connected to network, i should be able to read my mails (already retrieved) |
| 17:03.09 | stoned | rdale, no native garbage collection |
| 17:03.13 | mohan_ | stoned: yeah, i am looking for that |
| 17:03.19 | stoned | actually I don't wanna go into the cons of C++ |
| 17:03.28 | stoned | I'll focus more on the pros of C# |
| 17:03.29 | stoned | :) |
| 17:03.42 | mohan_ | stoned: i have an imap account. but it always tries connecting to n/w while browsing the folders |
| 17:03.56 | stoned | imap is not offline |
| 17:04.08 | stoned | you need pop3 to read offline mail |
| 17:04.15 | stoned | pop3 will download mail to your local client |
| 17:04.24 | stoned | but you can configure it to leave a copy of the mail on server as well |
| 17:04.36 | stoned | that way you always have a local copy of yoru email and you can browse it offline |
| 17:04.42 | mohan_ | stoned: but i don't have pop3 account |
| 17:04.49 | stoned | I'm not an networking expert |
| 17:04.56 | stoned | I dunno if you can use imap offline |
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| 17:05.32 | stoned | its a client feature let me see |
| 17:06.00 | stoned | You can use any IMAP server with "disconnected IMAP". It will create a cache |
| 17:06.00 | stoned | of the mails from the IMAP server on your local harddisk and "synchronize" |
| 17:06.01 | stoned | changes to the server in regular intervals. |
| 17:06.04 | stoned | i found this |
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| 17:08.17 | stoned | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kroupware&m=104586204722367&w=2 |
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| 17:08.37 | cenuij | curses akregator |
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| 17:08.46 | stoned | anyway I don't use kmail anyway |
| 17:08.50 | stoned | thunderbird ftw! |
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| 17:09.12 | cenuij | oh hey would have though, akregator randomly marking items as read is a bug over 1 year old |
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| 17:16.41 | mohan_ | stoned: thank you, i shall try.... i am using thunderbird to cache my imap mails |
| 17:16.48 | mohan_ | want to start using kmail |
| 17:16.57 | wesley_ | i have downloaded nl localazation, so how do i install it? normall commands dont worj |
| 17:16.59 | wesley_ | work |
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| 17:19.16 | stoned | welcome |
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| 17:32.46 | kronos003 | whats the story with quanta being removed from kdewebdev |
| 17:33.03 | kronos003 | in kde 4 |
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| 17:39.20 | aseigo | kronos003: they are still working on a first kde4 release; they share a bunch of code with kdevelop now so that's been a sticking point |
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| 17:39.51 | kronos003 | i see |
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| 17:41.45 | laynor | hi, something strange happened and I can't see the address text entry in konqueror 3.5 anymore |
| 17:41.51 | laynor | what should I check? |
| 17:44.58 | laynor | also, I noticed gif animations are much slower in konqueror than in firefox, is that normal? |
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| 17:47.54 | kronos003 | aseigo: im guessing qt4 instnt backward compatible with qt3? |
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| 17:51.01 | Tomm_1000 | N'Abend. |
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| 17:52.44 | aseigo | kronos003: no |
| 17:53.07 | Tomm_1000 | wie heisst in fedora10 das Tool, mit dem ich bei KDE die Darstellung und das Erscheinungsbild, vor allem Schriften und SchriftgröÃen, einstellen kann? |
| 17:53.40 | dereine | systemsettings |
| 17:54.08 | Half-Left | wowoo, didn't know VLC ported to Qt4 |
| 17:54.17 | kronos003 | aseigo: how soon do you think we might see a qt4 version? |
| 17:54.20 | Tomm_1000 | Oh, is the language here English? I am sorry! Could someone tell me please, what the name of the KDE-Control-Center is in fedora10? I want to change the size of the menü fonts. |
| 17:55.22 | dereine | Tomm_1000: as i sead |
| 17:55.25 | dereine | said |
| 17:56.12 | Tomm_1000 | dereine: sorry, yum cannot find a program called systemsettings. Maybe I have to explain more: I am running Gnome desktop and am using several kde programs. |
| 17:56.28 | dereine | Tomm_1000: thats preinstalled on EVERY kde4 |
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| 17:57.11 | Tomm_1000 | dereine: thanks for the hint - but how can I figure out, wich kde-version I have installed? |
| 17:57.30 | dereine | Tomm_1000: does you desktop look nice /me duck |
| 17:57.34 | dereine | ? by default |
| 17:57.45 | aseigo | kronos003: don't know for sure. perhaps ask the quanta team directly. |
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| 17:58.07 | kronos003 | do they have a channel here |
| 17:58.25 | Tomm_1000 | dereine: my desktop is gnome. i just use some kde-programs, and for those i want to change the size of the menue fonts |
| 17:58.40 | dereine | Tomm_1000: try to start kcontrol |
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| 17:59.23 | Tomm_1000 | dereine: i had tried, but kcontrol is not known either. also yum cannot install it |
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| 18:00.15 | shepherd | Hiya, is there something special I have to do to get Konqueror to play flash? I have adobe flash installed but they just come up blank |
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| 18:00.33 | shepherd | however I do not recieve the "you don't have flash player installed" anymore, they just don't show up |
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| 18:02.13 | Half-Left | shepherd: Point konqueror plugin settings to where the flashplayer.so file is and click the "Scan for plugins" button |
| 18:02.24 | shepherd | I'll give it a go, thanks |
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| 18:04.28 | shepherd | Half-Left: Hmm, no it sees the plugin. |
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| 18:04.52 | shepherd | Half-Left: It still just comes up blank though, any other ideas by chance? |
| 18:05.11 | Half-Left | You used the scan option? |
| 18:05.15 | shepherd | yea |
| 18:06.00 | Half-Left | And if the .so file in the direct set in konqueror plugins? |
| 18:06.00 | shepherd | flashplugin.so was in /usr/lib/mozilla and /usr/lib/flash-plugin so I told it to use the one in flash-plugin |
| 18:06.00 | Half-Left | directory* |
| 18:06.01 | shepherd | but it had the same result |
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| 18:06.10 | shepherd | Yes |
| 18:06.27 | Half-Left | KDE4 version? |
| 18:06.37 | shepherd | Yea I'm using KDE4 |
| 18:06.45 | Half-Left | Which version? |
| 18:06.49 | shepherd | oh |
| 18:06.53 | shepherd | 4.1.3 I think |
| 18:07.04 | shepherd | Yea |
| 18:08.21 | Half-Left | Try getting the plugin from adobe and manually pointing it to ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 18:08.33 | shepherd | k |
| 18:09.28 | Half-Left | You can get the libflashplayer.so version 10 from there and putting it in that directory, it it's not there make it |
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| 18:12.59 | shepherd | hmm.. still nothing shows up :s |
| 18:13.24 | Half-Left | Weird |
| 18:13.28 | shepherd | Yea :( |
| 18:14.04 | Half-Left | You hti thescan option? |
| 18:14.08 | Half-Left | hit* |
| 18:14.12 | shepherd | But like I said, the message saying flash wasn't found no longer appears, it just seems like it's about to load, then doesn't. |
| 18:14.20 | shepherd | Yea, I did, and it found libflashplayer.so |
| 18:14.38 | Half-Left | Restart konqueror and try |
| 18:14.41 | shepherd | I did |
| 18:14.47 | shepherd | Still not working though :( |
| 18:15.03 | Half-Left | What does ti actually show? |
| 18:15.08 | shepherd | Nothing |
| 18:15.27 | shepherd | Want a screenshot? it pushes the text down about as far as the size of the flash video |
| 18:15.30 | shepherd | but nothing appears in that area |
| 18:16.07 | Half-Left | hmmm, not sure why that is |
| 18:16.08 | shepherd | it works in firefox.. but I' prefer using konqueror :( |
| 18:16.28 | Half-Left | I'm using trunk (4.2) and it works fine |
| 18:16.38 | shepherd | Ah |
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| 18:17.45 | tudon | should konqueror work with openjdk on x64? |
| 18:18.04 | Half-Left | Your using x86_64? |
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| 18:18.08 | tudon | yes |
| 18:18.24 | scsiraider | is there a way to save my kde4 session from cmdline |
| 18:18.25 | Half-Left | shepherd: ^ |
| 18:18.42 | shepherd | Half-Left: no I'm on 32bit |
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| 18:22.28 | Half-Left | tudon: Just tested jre on x64 in Konqueror, yer works |
| 18:22.39 | tudon | what is the java path you have set |
| 18:23.16 | Half-Left | /opt/java/jre/bin/java |
| 18:23.31 | tudon | ok let me check |
| 18:23.56 | Half-Left | The test page on Sun's website whos the animating java logo |
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| 18:24.12 | Half-Left | er, java.com |
| 18:25.05 | Half-Left | Version 4.1.81 (KDE 4.1.81 (KDE 4.2 >= 20081128)) |
| 18:25.20 | tudon | i dont have the same path. also im using openjdk not sun . but it works in firefox |
| 18:25.44 | Half-Left | Not tried jdk |
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| 18:28.06 | VistaUser | hey |
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| 18:30.02 | LSU | so for someone who'se been absent from 4.0 to the latest, how is it? |
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| 18:31.56 | Half-Left | LSU: Oh man |
| 18:32.40 | Half-Left | LSU: 4.1 is soooo much better and 4.2 is awesome, should please alot of KDE3 people with all the new stuff |
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| 18:33.17 | LSU | that makes me happy |
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| 18:33.38 | LSU | yeah, i used 4.0 being a huge 3 fan, and it made me tear up honestly lol |
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| 18:45.51 | scsiraider | are there are kde4 irc clients |
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| 18:46.46 | dnet | d |
| 18:48.00 | DustD | sup |
| 18:50.23 | Half-Left | scsiraider: Quassel but it's Qt4 |
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| 18:50.32 | scsiraider | yeah qt4 is ok |
| 18:52.11 | SSJ_GZ | Quassel is being KDE4-ified, I here. |
| 18:52.31 | SSJ_GZ | *hear |
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| 18:56.24 | t11aluno07 | Ae |
| 18:56.42 | t11aluno07 | Someone there ? |
| 18:56.46 | t11aluno07 | =P |
| 18:57.32 | Luike | How nice @_@ |
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| 19:02.45 | sigma20 | whats the command to run to logout of kde4? kubuntu linux |
| 19:02.52 | raijin | ok ihave issues building kdebindings. the plasma-ruby applets arent being built. . . |
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| 19:09.38 | thiago_home | sigma20: click the logout button |
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| 19:10.11 | jschall | apart from this ONE issue with mouse buttons i'm really really loving kde. how do i bind mouse buttons to things like back/forward in konqueror, or bind meta+scroll to zoom? |
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| 19:11.24 | thiago_home | you don't |
| 19:11.29 | thiago_home | zoom is Ctrl+scroll |
| 19:11.50 | jschall | thiago_home: i can't live without back/forward being my mouse buttons. |
| 19:12.08 | thiago_home | then you'll need a different browser |
| 19:12.16 | thiago_home | I've been living without mouse gestures for months now |
| 19:12.24 | jschall | thiago_home: damn |
| 19:12.29 | jschall | thiago_home: that's really crappy. |
| 19:12.33 | thiago_home | it's annoying, but since I don't know how to implement them, I'm happily waiting for someone to do that. |
| 19:12.59 | jschall | thiago_home: is there any disadvantage to using gtk2 apps in kde? |
| 19:13.12 | jschall | thiago_home: firefox is gtk right? |
| 19:13.17 | thiago_home | jschall: yes, gtk is loaded into memory |
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| 19:13.42 | jschall | thiago_home: there wouldn't happen to be a qt version of firefox, would there? =P |
| 19:13.45 | thiago_home | no |
| 19:13.56 | jschall | weak... |
| 19:13.57 | thiago_home | that project has been announced 3 times |
| 19:14.01 | thiago_home | no one finishes it |
| 19:14.12 | thiago_home | there's no interest in completing and maintaining a Qt version of Firefox |
| 19:14.21 | thiago_home | we had better finish a WebKit-based browser instead |
| 19:14.23 | jschall | someone should frigging finish konqueror and there'd be no need |
| 19:15.09 | jschall | thiago_home: i don't understand why the mouse buttons can't be bound to anything, all the key binding widgets only accept keys... |
| 19:15.14 | sigma20 | should use the firefox engine in konq! that wud make one mother of a browser:) |
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| 19:15.41 | jschall | sigma20: that would be one crappy browser, because it still wouldn't support mouse buttons for back/forward. |
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| 19:16.09 | jschall | how big is gtk in memory? |
| 19:16.23 | thiago_home | not much |
| 19:16.25 | thiago_home | but larger than 0 |
| 19:16.36 | jschall | yeah, no problem. i have 2gb, soon 4gb of ram |
| 19:17.15 | sigma20 | but i dont use those buttons! |
| 19:17.26 | jschall | thiago_home: it's just really really annoying me! kde is AMAZING, but it just lacks mouse binding capabilities |
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| 19:17.42 | jschall | thiago_home: which is the last thing i'd expect to be difficult to implement |
| 19:18.16 | VistaUser | can someone help me with a big problem, i want to go back to my normal vista mode and i pop in hp recovery discs and dont wwwork |
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| 19:19.00 | sigma20 | what does that have to do with kde vistauser? |
| 19:19.20 | VistaUser | idk but is there a channel for this problem lol |
| 19:19.28 | sigma20 | #windows |
| 19:19.36 | VistaUser | ty |
| 19:20.05 | jschall | thiago_home: wait, i think i found how to do it, system settings->advanced->input actions |
| 19:20.36 | jschall | thiago_home: oh, that's just gestures and keyboard |
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| 19:28.51 | jschall | this behavior can't possibly be right, does konqueror seriously not support mouse side buttons? |
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| 19:28.59 | jschall | they work fine in firefox |
| 19:28.59 | thiago_home | jschall: correct |
| 19:29.04 | jschall | thiago_home: that's amazingly retarded. |
| 19:29.04 | VistaUser | can u dual boot with ubuntu first then vista? |
| 19:29.04 | jschall | VistaUser: yes |
| 19:29.08 | jschall | VistaUser: do you mean ubuntu first on the list? |
| 19:29.13 | VistaUser | yah cause right now i am fully in ubuntu now i want to have vista to |
| 19:29.16 | jschall | VistaUser: so you mean by installing ubuntu first, then vista? |
| 19:29.16 | VistaUser | yah |
| 19:29.20 | pinotree | VistaUser: please ask in #ubuntu or ##linux, not here |
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| 19:29.23 | jschall | VistaUser: you can, but you're going to have to restore grub afterwards. that's as far as i'll help in this channel, it's offtopic |
| 19:29.31 | jthomas | anyone use KOffice? In KWord (1.6.3) the bottoms of my letters like 'g p y' get cut off and I also cannot see my _underscores_ is there a way to correct this? |
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| 19:30.26 | annma | jthomas: #koffice |
| 19:30.48 | jthomas | ok thanks |
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| 19:32.23 | driva2009 | evening all. I need a little help with KDE4. I need to have more than one timezone shown on my clock widget, but can't get this to work |
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| 19:32.54 | driva2009 | Is it possible to do this, or do I need 2 clocks, one for each TZ? |
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| 19:33.05 | afief | Is there a way to send files to bluetooth devices in kde? |
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| 19:33.34 | driva2009 | afief: Which version of KDE do you have? |
| 19:34.01 | driva2009 | and also which operating system? |
| 19:34.17 | annma | driva2009: kde version? |
| 19:34.29 | driva2009 | 4.1.2, annma |
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| 19:34.50 | afief | kde 4.1 |
| 19:34.59 | annma | you can show added tz in the tooltip driva2009 |
| 19:35.05 | annma | not on the clock itself |
| 19:35.09 | driva2009 | ah. |
| 19:35.13 | driva2009 | I have tooltips off. |
| 19:35.44 | annma | so either you want a full new clock or use the tooltip to see aditional tzs |
| 19:36.20 | driva2009 | i better switch the tooltip on - my monitor is not really big enough to use 2 clocks at a size which I can see :) |
| 19:36.40 | annma | yes |
| 19:36.42 | thiago_home | jschall: or just the fact that none of the developers have mice with those buttons |
| 19:36.47 | thiago_home | jschall: so no one felt the need. |
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| 19:45.27 | driva2009 | annma: couldn't get the tooltips to work, so I have 2 clocks, one set to london, one to tokyo |
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| 19:45.30 | annma | when you set tokyo in timezone tab of settings it doe snot show in tooltip? |
| 19:45.31 | driva2009 | no |
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| 19:45.34 | annma | weird maybe it was not done in 4.1.2 |
| 19:45.34 | driva2009 | brb - i just been called out. See you when I get back, annma :) |
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| 19:45.34 | driva2009 | hates radiopagers |
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| 19:55.23 | martin_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:56.42 | vbgunz | just curious. this statement: "For the 4.2 release, the KDE team has fixed literally thousands of bugs" ... 1000's as in "since 4.1" or 4.0? |
| 19:57.15 | thiago_home | probably since 4.1 |
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| 19:57.38 | cb400f | .. and it prolly includes new ones that weren't there in 4.1 either :-) |
| 19:58.03 | annma | I think the more kde4 progresses the less bugs cb400f |
| 19:58.08 | annma | logically |
| 19:58.49 | vbgunz | man, I want KDE to kick the DE posse in the rear quad-core |
| 19:58.58 | annma | however there are some still there from KDE3! |
| 19:59.15 | annma | and some bugs are annoying little beasts |
| 19:59.23 | annma | they keep reappearing |
| 19:59.27 | martin_ | whats de |
| 19:59.36 | vbgunz | desktop environment |
| 19:59.42 | martin_ | oh |
| 20:00.14 | martin_ | kde is my favorite |
| 20:00.47 | vbgunz | yup. agreed. 4.2 got me the most exicted about KDE so far since 3.5.10 :) |
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| 20:01.25 | cb400f | 3.5.10 was not long ago :-) |
| 20:01.54 | martin_ | im just use to knowing which files i have to edit to get things set up the way i want....remote logins, root logins etc |
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| 20:02.59 | martin_ | still a lot of things that have to be done by way of text edotir on text file |
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| 20:05.33 | Fri13- | Hi, what meaning is the "Internet Extended Container" plasmoid/widget on KDE 4.2 beta1 ? |
| 20:06.37 | thiago_home | Internal |
| 20:06.47 | thiago_home | I don't think it was supposed to be visible |
| 20:07.21 | Fri13- | thiago_home: Internal, yes... *tired |
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| 20:07.34 | Shirakawasuna | Hi. With xorg 7.4, evdev drivers are enabled by default for the mouse/keyboard. For my keyboard, this would have been generally fine, however I like to use my right alt key as a compose key. I originally had this set in the kde keyboard layout config, but had to disable my layout to get the arrow keys to work. The basic question I'm getting at is: does kde 4 have a 'setxkbmap -model evdev' option somewhere that I missed? |
| 20:07.36 | Fri13- | thiago_home: what it should do if it should not be a visible? |
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| 20:08.13 | Shirakawasuna | at the moment, I've turned off the evdev keyboard driver, but I'd prefer to stay with the default configs |
| 20:09.07 | Shirakawasuna | I ask because GNOME users have reported that this fixes their issues in general. It would also allow me to use the keymap options that let me use right alt as compose. |
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| 20:09.13 | thiago_home | Fri13-: it's supposed to be an internal plasmoid |
| 20:09.17 | thiago_home | used to add spacing |
| 20:09.43 | Fri13- | thiago_home: Add spacing between plasmoids/widgets and so on staying hidden? |
| 20:09.47 | thiago_home | Shirakawasuna: does setxkbmap work? |
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| 20:09.58 | thiago_home | Fri13-: yes |
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| 20:11.41 | Shirakawasuna | thiago_home: the last time I tried from a terminal w/ the evdev keyboard driver, it didn't work |
| 20:11.53 | thiago_home | then blame setxkbmap |
| 20:11.57 | Shirakawasuna | thiago_home: which would be a bit weird considering those gnome users |
| 20:12.00 | thiago_home | get that working first, then we can look into kxkb |
| 20:12.20 | Shirakawasuna | I'll see if I can find others w/ the same problem |
| 20:12.31 | tudon | the weather widget in kde4 is usa only? |
| 20:12.53 | annma | which one? LCD weather? |
| 20:12.59 | annma | it has 3 engines |
| 20:13.08 | tudon | in plasma desktop widgets |
| 20:13.11 | annma | use BBC for Europe |
| 20:13.20 | tudon | Weather Widget is the name |
| 20:13.35 | tudon | it works with postal codes |
| 20:13.40 | thiago_home | BBC seemed to be UK only |
| 20:14.02 | annma | no I use it for Toulouse |
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| 20:14.26 | annma | BBC is worldwide I think but for big towns |
| 20:14.44 | tudon | bbc has a widget? |
| 20:14.54 | annma | the LCD weather applet |
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| 20:15.19 | annma | it has 3 data engines: BBC NOAA and ENv Canada |
| 20:15.25 | thiago_home | no engines here |
| 20:15.29 | thiago_home | the drop-down list is empty |
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| 20:15.53 | tudon | is it also for plasma |
| 20:15.57 | annma | is it the LCD weather from kdeplasma-addons? |
| 20:16.17 | annma | tudon: we know it's for plasma, I am asking for its name from Add Widgets |
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| 20:16.58 | annma | I am asking if we all speak from the one from kdeplasma-addons whichis called LCD Weather Station |
| 20:17.13 | annma | in 4.2 at least but I think it was there in 4.1 |
| 20:17.33 | tudon | its not in mine. im trying to find it in web |
| 20:17.39 | thiago_home | yep, that's the one here |
| 20:18.06 | annma | it should get 3 engines |
| 20:18.20 | thiago_home | none listed |
| 20:18.27 | annma | especially if you have trunk thiago_home |
| 20:18.33 | thiago_home | yep, trunk |
| 20:18.39 | annma | so you cannot get any weather data displayed? |
| 20:18.51 | annma | the engine is in kdebase |
| 20:18.53 | thiago_home | nope |
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| 20:19.01 | thiago_home | I've updated kdebase today |
| 20:19.09 | tudon | when i select download new widgets it only lists a few. is that a bug? |
| 20:19.24 | annma | I did not check it today but I fixed it recently |
| 20:19.54 | annma | I still have the sources |
| 20:20.22 | tudon | on the kde look site i find much more plasmoids |
| 20:20.26 | thiago_home | restarting plasma |
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| 20:20.52 | thiago_home | now plasma promptly crashes when adding the LCD Weather widget |
| 20:21.03 | user1 | i cannot unpack archives with mouse context menu (kde4) |
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| 20:21.21 | annma | thiago_home: I think it should crash when you configure it with the button |
| 20:21.25 | user1 | what do i need for that? |
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| 20:23.09 | thiago_home | both applets crash |
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| 20:26.11 | thiago_home | annma: after updating playground/base, it now works |
| 20:26.41 | thiago_home | now it displays a very ugly white and grey icon with an empty sign (Ã) |
| 20:26.52 | annma | playground/base is another applet |
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| 20:27.19 | annma | it's a more sophisticated one which will replace current for 4.3 |
| 20:28.05 | thiago_home | it's weather-none-available |
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| 20:28.33 | annma | lol |
| 20:28.47 | annma | it's always cold where you are anyway, cold and snowing! |
| 20:28.52 | Lele_ | Alguém sabe como fazer com q amarok toque alguma coisa ? |
| 20:29.29 | annma | Lele_: only ENglish here, what language is that? |
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| 20:30.02 | thiago_home | it was snowing just now |
| 20:30.05 | thiago_home | annma: that's portuguese |
| 20:30.13 | thiago_home | Lele_: Amarok 1 or 2? |
| 20:30.14 | Lele_ | Pt_Br |
| 20:30.20 | annma | portuguese from portugal or brasil |
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| 20:30.29 | Lele_ | thks thiago |
| 20:30.31 | annma | ah there's a KDE BR channel |
| 20:30.38 | thiago_home | yep, #kde-brasil |
| 20:30.46 | annma | lol I forgot you are br |
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| 20:31.09 | thiago_home | there are no specific BR or PT words in what Lele_ said, but I don't think pt_PT would speak like that |
| 20:31.25 | Lele_ | thiago amarok 1.94 |
| 20:31.38 | thiago_home | Lele_: which phonon backend is selected? |
| 20:31.43 | thiago_home | and do other KDE applications play? |
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| 20:32.30 | Lele_ | Sorry my english not is very well |
| 20:32.48 | thiago_home | annma: it's kinda white outside now |
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| 20:32.55 | thiago_home | Lele_: /join #kde-brasil |
| 20:33.17 | Lele_ | tkhs thiago |
| 20:33.26 | annma | nice, the Pyrénées also are all white |
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| 20:33.34 | annma | Lele_: Leandro ? |
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| 20:34.42 | Lele_ | not Alex |
| 20:34.46 | Lele_ | anna |
| 20:34.57 | Lele_ | my name ys Alex |
| 20:35.01 | Guest11997 | hiiiiiiiii |
| 20:35.24 | Guest11997 | hiiiiiii iam hossam |
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| 20:35.42 | cga | hi all, where do themes for kdm get downloaded when i download them from system settings --> login manager? |
| 20:35.46 | annma | ah nice name Lele_ |
| 20:35.52 | Fri13 | Hi, does someone know where on the KDE4 SVN trunk the theme "Bespin" actually is located? |
| 20:35.55 | arezey | Guest11997, ircing as root is bad. |
| 20:36.11 | annma | Fri13: kdeartwork maybe |
| 20:38.08 | Fri13 | annma: I cant find at all it from trunk/KDE/kdeartwork/. Is there easy way to do a search for whole SVN? |
| 20:38.26 | thiago_home | Fri13: make sure you have it all checked out, then use locate on your system |
| 20:38.42 | Fri13 | thiago_home: Thats wise :-D |
| 20:38.57 | pinotree | Fri13: there's no bespin in kde |
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| 20:39.07 | user1 | how do i unpack archives in kde4? |
| 20:39.32 | Fri13 | pinotree: is that theme developing moved from KDE svn? |
| 20:39.38 | thiago_home | user1: ark, but it's not working |
| 20:39.47 | pinotree | Fri13: bespin is not a theme kde provides, but a 3rd party one |
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| 20:40.26 | Fri13 | pinotree: Well, I just know from kde-look.org site that it is available from kde trunk SVN only. |
| 20:40.32 | pinotree | nope |
| 20:40.32 | user1 | what about context menu? i remember there was a package for kde4 which adds "pack" and "unpack" to mouse context menu |
| 20:40.53 | user1 | but i cannot remember the name of that package |
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| 20:46.20 | raijin | Version 4.1.81-1m.mo5.Kilroy Momonga Linux (KDE 4.1.81) |
| 20:46.22 | raijin | YAY |
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| 20:48.09 | aissen | hi, what plasmoid could i use to match the system monitor (CPU, network, disk, memory⦠:) ) in kicker? |
| 20:48.25 | thiago_home | the CPU, network, disk and memory plasmoids |
| 20:48.38 | thiago_home | but I don't think they look nice on the panel |
| 20:48.44 | thiago_home | they look better on the desktop |
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| 20:49.18 | user1 | where can i find such plasmoids? |
| 20:49.26 | thiago_home | I think they're unreleased |
| 20:49.35 | thiago_home | you can find the source code in playground and build them yourself |
| 20:49.36 | aissen | i like to have them on panel :( to have an immediate overview |
| 20:49.42 | thiago_home | so do I |
| 20:49.47 | thiago_home | but I don't think they look good |
| 20:49.49 | Fri13 | annma: Found the theme. It was not on the KDE trunk... twisted the text in my mind to mean a KDE trunk (a KDE site was open background so mayby from there ;-)). |
| 20:49.50 | Hossam | hiiiiiiiii |
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| 20:50.00 | aissen | thiago_home: so you settled without it? |
| 20:50.03 | thiago_home | the CPU temperature one, for instance, shows a half-circle and a needle pointing |
| 20:50.07 | thiago_home | that's a waste of space |
| 20:50.09 | Hossam | hiii every body |
| 20:50.16 | thiago_home | aissen: yes, especially since I can't lay out the panel how I like |
| 20:50.25 | thiago_home | the more plasmoids I add, the smaller the taskbar gets |
| 20:50.34 | thiago_home | and that's the most important thing in the panel |
| 20:50.49 | aissen | ok, too bad, i thought gnome had a poor panel :( |
| 20:50.51 | Hossam | its good |
| 20:51.00 | Hossam | yap |
| 20:51.03 | thiago_home | it'll be much nicer in 4.2 |
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| 20:51.15 | thiago_home | there are a couple of plasmoids that will fill in the needs |
| 20:51.15 | aissen | thiago_home: ok |
| 20:51.19 | Hossam | but strong base |
| 20:52.33 | raijin | Version 4.1.81-1m.mo5.Kilroy Momonga Linux (KDE 4.1.81) |
| 20:52.39 | raijin | niice |
| 20:52.45 | raijin | plasma works again |
| 20:53.11 | raijin | although it doesnt want to show the panel when compositing is truned on |
| 20:53.18 | raijin | turned* |
| 20:53.54 | cga | mmm i had to kill systemsettings with xkill and now it wont start anymore. any advice? |
| 20:54.12 | thiago_home | cga: killall systemsettings |
| 20:54.35 | cga | thanks |
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| 21:03.02 | downhillgames | aseigo; <3 (no homo) |
| 21:03.14 | vbgunz | got a somewhat offtopic question that only needs a single answer. when you stand by uploading a torrent what is the one word in which you can say you are? is it peer? |
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| 21:03.27 | aseigo | downhillgames: haha =) |
| 21:03.50 | aseigo | vbgunz: seeder |
| 21:03.50 | downhillgames | that's good! smile! :p how are ya? |
| 21:04.01 | aseigo | vbgunz: everyone is a peer, uploaders are seeder |
| 21:04.05 | aseigo | er, seeders |
| 21:04.14 | vbgunz | seeder, got it, thanks aseigo :) |
| 21:04.17 | aseigo | downhillgames: ok.. just did a massive rework of the new systray code |
| 21:04.23 | downhillgames | HUZZAH! |
| 21:04.23 | aseigo | satisfying that |
| 21:04.35 | downhillgames | does it load this aeon now? *duck* |
| 21:05.00 | downhillgames | ok, ok, it wasn't that bad. |
| 21:05.56 | downhillgames | sorry :| |
| 21:05.57 | aseigo | downhillgames: i'm not a magician ;) but yeah, it's a bit better |
| 21:06.02 | downhillgames | yay |
| 21:06.25 | downhillgames | when will we (the end users) be able to try said improvements? |
| 21:06.31 | ManaPirat | Hey there |
| 21:06.32 | downhillgames | I mean, in a stable release |
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| 21:06.48 | aseigo | downhillgames: jan 27, 4.2.0 |
| 21:07.07 | downhillgames | can't believe it's December already. the snow is comin' down hard outside tho, so it must be :| |
| 21:07.17 | ManaPirat | if i use xrandr to change my screen size, kde 4.1.2 seems not aware of the change and the desktop does not resize. Is there a better way how to (maybe even automaticly) change the screen-size in the "kde-way"? |
| 21:07.28 | aseigo | downhillgames: we're supposed to get snow later today. where are you? |
| 21:07.37 | downhillgames | Grand Rapids-ish, Michigan |
| 21:07.40 | downhillgames | and you? |
| 21:07.55 | aseigo | ManaPirat: that works for some people, and not for others in 4.1... massive mess between xrandr and qt.. |
| 21:08.14 | aseigo | ManaPirat: we've replaced the qt code with something called kephal in 4.2. install the beta and test so we can make sure it's all good =) |
| 21:08.50 | ManaPirat | mehehe - this is my office-desktop. Ill tets it when kde 4.2.x enters gentoo testing ;) |
| 21:09.24 | ManaPirat | xorg 1.5.2 is enough of a problem for me allready. But i found now what i was looking for - krandrtray ... its very much hidden |
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| 21:10.54 | downhillgames | aseigo lives in his own world apparently D: |
| 21:11.09 | downhillgames | j/k man, but I gotta get going. take care ^_^ |
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| 21:11.19 | downhillgames | and keep it up! |
| 21:11.24 | aseigo | downhillgames: Clagary, Canada |
| 21:11.28 | aseigo | downhillgames: see ya |
| 21:11.36 | downhillgames | oh, ok. not so close |
| 21:11.42 | downhillgames | laters! |
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| 21:18.08 | BULLE | edneymatias: nope, not yet |
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| 21:18.36 | edneymatias | BULLE: thank you! |
| 21:18.54 | zx2c4 | *sigh* anybody? |
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| 21:26.46 | ilyak_ | Each other tide |
| 21:26.49 | ilyak_ | time* |
| 21:26.59 | ilyak_ | KDE version is 3.5.9 |
| 21:27.27 | ilyak_ | This is unfortunate because I can no longer watch my pron^Wflash ads |
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| 21:32.32 | edneymatias | jschall: not for me |
| 21:32.43 | thiago_home | jschall: works fine |
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| 21:47.52 | FreakGuard | how to say the kde apps to quit and save their settings? they don't seem to like "halt" in combination with fluxbox |
| 21:48.37 | thiago_home | XSM should be enough |
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| 21:50.02 | FreakGuard | thiago_home, hm? |
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| 21:51.49 | thiago_home | XSM notifying that the session is exiting should cause a clean exit of all apps |
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| 21:52.39 | al_ | hi, can anyone give a hint why in the logout (kickoff?) menu i don't have the usual three choices log off, shutdown, restart, but only one of them? |
| 21:52.45 | FreakGuard | thiago_home, actually doesn't |
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| 21:52.53 | al_ | the one offered depends on the setting of shutdownType in ksmserverrc |
| 21:52.59 | thiago_home | al_: how did you start KDE? |
| 21:53.06 | al_ | thiago: kdm |
| 21:53.32 | al_ | kubuntu default session i guess |
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| 21:54.07 | tkstka | how can I get default settings for KDE? I accidently my whole toolbar :c |
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| 21:54.23 | thiago_home | remove/move the config files |
| 21:54.31 | tkstka | how |
| 21:54.43 | tkstka | where exactly is the config file |
| 21:54.52 | thiago_home | in ~/.kde |
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| 21:55.04 | thiago_home | or ~/.kde4 if your distribution sets it up differently |
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| 21:55.57 | zigovr3 | hi all, in kde 3.5, knetworkmanager fail to access kwallet anymore, it's stuck to "waiting for key from kwallet" and kwallet doesn't come up |
| 21:56.55 | zigovr3 | I can launch kwallet manually, but it doesn't help either, it never asks for the passwork for knetworkmanager |
| 21:57.50 | hyper_ch | I prefer now WICD over knetworkmanager |
| 21:58.07 | zigovr3 | ah well I restarted X and now it works again |
| 21:58.11 | zigovr3 | strange bug ... |
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| 22:01.42 | un_ | anyone know if trunk:/kdelibs/plasma/theme.cpp:call to svg.cpp:445: has been patched yet? dashboard still reports a failure, but i need to svn up |
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| 22:05.07 | lilltiger | Does anyone know what "Qt-subapplication" might be in xrestop cos that thing is leaking alot of memory |
| 22:07.52 | un_ | lilltiger: yakuake is a subclass of qtsubapp... lots of apps are, what ran the subapp? |
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| 22:08.24 | lilltiger | un_: how do I find that out? |
| 22:09.04 | lilltiger | found it |
| 22:09.08 | lilltiger | plsma :( |
| 22:09.12 | lilltiger | plasma |
| 22:09.28 | lilltiger | but i tried to restart it, dident releasethe pxm memory |
| 22:10.51 | lilltiger | Got it to release the pxm memory now itall looks ok inxrestop but in top x still uses 22% memory (of 4GB) |
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| 22:23.04 | WNxCryptic | How do I change the theme on a fresh KDE install? |
| 22:24.19 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: Right-click on the desktop, desktop settings |
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| 22:28.39 | DeviantPeer | Hi all! Can anyone tell me in what configuration file the selection for the there is? |
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| 22:29.38 | WNxCryptic | sjraarke, I just removed the bottom panel =\ how do I add that back on? |
| 22:29.55 | DeviantPeer | sorry.. just read what I wrote before.. makes no sense. ;) |
| 22:30.25 | DeviantPeer | anyone know where the theme selection is stored? what file is used to store that config. |
| 22:30.31 | tkstka | ok so I need to reset default for kde4.1 |
| 22:30.42 | sredna | using the latest xorg with hotplugging, my keyboard isn't functioning in KDE - the arrow keys are not working. In gnome there is a 'evdev managed keyboard' type, will there be something like that in KDE? |
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| 22:30.47 | tkstka | someone said I should take away teh conficfile |
| 22:32.17 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: Did you remove it or hide it? |
| 22:32.31 | WNxCryptic | remove. |
| 22:32.52 | WNxCryptic | I've got a basic panel back so I can access application menu |
| 22:33.29 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: Richt-click on the Desktop, Unlock Widgets, Ricght-click again, add widgets |
| 22:34.32 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: If You want to add widgets to the panel then right-click on the panel, add widgets |
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| 22:35.24 | WNxCryptic | sjraarke, yes I understand that much..how do I move the panel to the bottom, for starters. |
| 22:35.56 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: right-click panel, select panel options |
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| 22:37.42 | WNxCryptic | sjraarke, windows that I have open do not show up on the panel. |
| 22:38.29 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: add taskmanager widget to the panel. It's not the panel but the task manager that shows the open windows |
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| 22:41.13 | tkstka | how do I set a panel at the bottom of my screen |
| 22:41.18 | tkstka | it goes automaticly up |
| 22:41.20 | tkstka | :C |
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| 22:43.17 | sjraarke | tkstka: the standard panel or a panel that you added? |
| 22:43.25 | tkstka | standard |
| 22:43.37 | tkstka | well I somehow deleted my standar |
| 22:43.39 | tkstka | :C |
| 22:43.44 | sjraarke | tkstka: right-click on the panel, select panel options |
| 22:43.45 | tkstka | so I try to get it back |
| 22:44.05 | tkstka | panel settings |
| 22:44.15 | tkstka | and |
| 22:44.24 | tkstka | well I have new panel |
| 22:44.25 | tkstka | now |
| 22:45.20 | sjraarke | tkstka: stop hitting the enter key for punctuation |
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| 22:45.56 | WNxCryptic | I changed the theme of KDE and the system tray icons are all funky..they have a black blackground |
| 22:46.32 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: It's a known issue with the background of the systemtray icons. People are working on it |
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| 22:48.09 | WNxCryptic | sjraarke, is there any way to edit the images used for system tray icons |
| 22:48.12 | WNxCryptic | ??? |
| 22:48.43 | tkstka | so is there a way to get back that panel? |
| 22:49.13 | WNxCryptic | tkstka, no |
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| 22:49.17 | sjraarke | WNxCryptic: Most likely, I have never tried it. However, if they are embedded in the source then you would have to edit the source files. Not something for the faint haerted |
| 22:49.17 | un_ | WNxCryptic: not unless you edit the actual running applications icons under /usr/share/icons |
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| 22:49.48 | tkstka | So I make a newone.. how do I get it at the bottom part of my screen? |
| 22:50.04 | WNxCryptic | Panel options |
| 22:50.22 | tkstka | yes but I dont see anything I can move some arrows in the panel |
| 22:50.46 | WNxCryptic | The black bar that appears beneath the panel (with the left align, center align, right align buttons) |
| 22:50.53 | WNxCryptic | click and hold on that and drag it. It moves the panel. |
| 22:50.58 | sjraarke | tkstka: Select panel options and then drag the panel |
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| 22:51.12 | sjraarke | :) |
| 22:51.20 | tkstka | LOL |
| 22:51.45 | tkstka | I tried to move it like hunderd times.. but it didnt then I moved it in the center of the bar |
| 22:51.48 | tkstka | ... |
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| 22:52.20 | damana | anyone have kde4.2 for fedora 10 ? |
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| 22:58.32 | damana | anyone have kde4.2 for fedora 10 ? |
| 22:59.42 | pinotree | damana: don't ask to ask, just ask |
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| 22:59.58 | damana | yea. |
| 23:00.02 | damana | ?:D |
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| 23:00.35 | damana | i need to know repo for fedora10 (kde4.2) |
| 23:00.37 | damana | beta1 |
| 23:00.47 | pinotree | damana: then you need to ask in #fedora-kde |
| 23:01.03 | damana | oh |
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| 23:08.59 | vbgunz | curious. does konqueror 4.1 have a status bar? I remember looking at the status bar in 3 and seeing how many files I had selected or how many were in the folder... I do not see this anymore :/ |
| 23:09.46 | xenol | do i need to have cpufrequtils set up in order to have powerdevil scale my cpu? :> |
| 23:10.42 | lilltiger | xenol: Im not sure, but i guess yes, at least have the module loaded |
| 23:10.52 | lilltiger | and for that you need kernel support for it |
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| 23:11.40 | xenol | lilltiger: i got kernel support for it, just not sure if i need to see the cpufreq as well |
| 23:11.44 | xenol | but thx |
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| 23:28.59 | damana | i have't found any bugs with beta1 |
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| 23:37.55 | jhutchins_wk | How can I get korganizer to show just journal topics without notes? At least when notes are empty. |
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| 23:41.57 | _teatime | Huh? when did KDE4 switch to having "OK" to the right of "cancel"? |
| 23:42.36 | _teatime | someone please tell me I can configure this.. I'm too old to learn new tricks :P |
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| 23:50.34 | WNxCryptic | I'm trying to change my splash screen in KDE 4.1 via the system settings |
| 23:50.45 | WNxCryptic | But when I 'install' a new splash screen it doesn't show up on the list |
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| 23:55.29 | WNxCryptic | anyone? |
| 23:56.23 | pinotree | be patient |
| 23:57.05 | laynor | hey, konqueror (KDE 3.5) doesn't show the address bar anymore. What could it be? |
| 23:57.26 | teatime | is still hunting for the ok/cancel button order switch configuration thingie.. |
| 23:58.49 | laynor | I think it happened since I installed kde 4.1 :( |
