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| 00:03.55 | bbelt16ag | hey peeps |
| 00:04.12 | bbelt16ag | how do I change the colors in akregator? |
| 00:04.32 | bbelt16ag | my articles in the right top pain ( the names of articles) are a annoying birght red |
| 00:04.42 | bbelt16ag | its not in kcontrol any ideas |
| 00:07.10 | enderst | anyone know how to fix this in kmail - http://s4.tinypic.com/2rgf7sg.jpg ? |
| 00:08.15 | bbuss | enderst: This happens when you press Ctrl in Konqueror... |
| 00:09.18 | enderst | i don't touch anything in kmail. doesn't matter if i preview or open the email |
| 00:10.51 | bbuss | i really don't know cause i don't use kmail... but i think that pressing Ctrl don't fix that, right? :P |
| 00:11.29 | enderst | it does go away, sure |
| 00:12.21 | bbuss | but come back everytime you open/preview an e-mail? |
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| 00:21.25 | enderst | yep |
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| 00:29.04 | ryanakca | How can I change the browsing language in Konqueror? (I'd like it to pass french as the language instead of english) |
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| 00:31.18 | bbuss | ryanakca: Try in Konqueror: Help -> "Switch application language..." |
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| 00:33.37 | ryanakca | bbuss: thanks |
| 00:34.29 | ryanakca | bbuss: I don't want to change Konqueror's language, just the language it sends / requests from the web servers |
| 00:35.16 | bbuss | well... you want to change the language of web-pages you visit? |
| 00:35.29 | ryanakca | bbuss: yes. |
| 00:35.50 | bbuss | well... i think you can't do this =] |
| 00:36.19 | bbuss | The guy who made the page is the one that defines what languages his website suports |
| 00:36.58 | bbuss | In some sites, youy can choose... in another... you can't... |
| 00:37.01 | ryanakca | the web browser sends an Accept-Language HTTP header. It tells the server what language you prefer, and then if the server has that language enabled / implemented it'll serve you in that language, if not, it'll just server you in the server's default language |
| 00:38.15 | ryanakca | bbuss: at least, according to http://docs.djangoproject.com/en/dev/topics/i18n/?from=olddocs#how-django-discovers-language-preference , you'll have to scroll down to the first bullet in ``Changed in Django 1.0'' |
| 00:38.34 | bbuss | well ok... i didn't know that... but let's try it |
| 00:38.47 | bbuss | go to Settings -> configure Konqueror... |
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| 00:39.09 | bbuss | Select Browser Identification... and check "Add Language information" |
| 00:39.51 | bbuss | i think it will send your language in the header... |
| 00:40.37 | bbuss | but maybe your konqueror needs to be in the language you want... in this case, french.... |
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| 00:42.51 | ryanakca | bbuss: I think so, it goes en-GB, en-US, en... no fr :/ |
| 00:43.13 | bbuss | =/ |
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| 00:48.13 | ryanakca | bbuss: aha, http://www.konqueror.org/faq/#IsthereawaytochangethedefaultAcceptCharsetAcceptLanguageHTTPheadersinkonqueror |
| 00:49.16 | bbuss | =D |
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| 00:50.39 | ryanakca | bbuss: the decop line doesn't work though... ``object not accessible'' |
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| 00:51.55 | BerMeJo | hi all |
| 00:52.21 | bbuss | hey =] |
| 00:52.57 | BerMeJo | im trying to run kde4 experimental in debian lenny, i can't boot X i get "Wwarning: --old-kde does not end with /share/config. Might wreak havoc." |
| 00:53.13 | BerMeJo | i can't find anything in google... |
| 00:53.26 | ryanakca | bbuss: is there a konqueror channel? I see #konqueror , but it looks pretty much dead / ChanServ says it hasn't been used it 3 weeks :) |
| 00:53.47 | bbuss | O.o |
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| 00:54.27 | ryanakca | bbuss: 20:53:35 [freenode] -ChanServ(ChanServ@services.)- Last used : Sep 23 09:44:00 2008 (3 weeks, 6 days, 15:09:35 ago) :-/ |
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| 00:56.23 | Jucato | #khtml perhaps? |
| 00:56.34 | bbuss | ryanakca: in your terminal (i'm using konsole here)... try to type "dcop konqueror-" and then type TAB 2 times... (autocomplete) |
| 00:57.23 | bbuss | here it lists "konqueror-7776" and "konqueror-7817"... |
| 00:57.55 | bbuss | then... it the command "dcop konqueror-* KIO..." try to replace the * with the numbers... |
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| 00:58.16 | ryanakca | bbuss: dcop k<tab><tab> gives the choice between kded, klauncher, knetworkmanager and knotify... which explains why konqueror-* returned object not accessible... |
| 00:58.40 | bbuss | with dcop k<tab><tab> you don't see konqueror? |
| 00:58.51 | bbuss | (to use dcop you have to be running konqueror) |
| 00:59.12 | bbuss | (FIX: to use dcop to send a message do konqueror... you have to be running konqueror) |
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| 01:00.25 | ryanakca | bbuss: konqueror is running :) |
| 01:00.46 | Ace2016 | OMG Nvidia + KDE4 = SLOW/Laggy |
| 01:00.51 | bbuss | and dcop k<tab><tab> can't find it??? O.o |
| 01:00.56 | Ace2016 | OMG Nvidia + KDE4 +XGL = Blazing Fast!!! |
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| 01:01.26 | bbuss | Ace2016: Which drivers? |
| 01:01.26 | Ace2016 | i mean the alt+f2 dialogue doesn't lag, at all, not one bit |
| 01:01.32 | ryanakca | bbuss: nope... *sigh* |
| 01:01.39 | Ace2016 | i mean the alt+f2 dialogue doesn't lag, at all, not one bit 177.80 |
| 01:01.51 | ryanakca | bbuss: oh well. I'll just restart konqueror |
| 01:01.52 | Ace2016 | they are also slower than with xgl, much much slower |
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| 01:03.04 | Ace2016 | now to see how fast kde really is |
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| 01:03.26 | bbuss | =D |
| 01:03.45 | Ace2016 | now typing konsole fast gets me konsole |
| 01:03.58 | aseigo | Ace2016: i got rid of the last bit of white flicker on show in krunner today too |
| 01:04.01 | Ace2016 | instead of typing konsole and ending up with konversation |
| 01:04.02 | aseigo | Ace2016: it's really smoooth now on show |
| 01:04.28 | aseigo | is rather happy with that |
| 01:04.30 | Ace2016 | aseigo: ah so an updated version of kde4 to make it faster on nvidia cards? |
| 01:04.34 | aseigo | it was my small win for the day ;) |
| 01:04.46 | aseigo | Ace2016: it's not actually faster, it just looks faster (no flicker) |
| 01:05.20 | Ace2016 | well unless you can get rid of the rendering lagg i won't be using nvidia on its own, shame really |
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| 01:06.41 | Racchio | why is nvidia so slow with kde compositing, being so fast with compiz? |
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| 01:07.11 | Ace2016 | will only buy ati from now on |
| 01:07.21 | Ace2016 | that slowness is simply unacceptable |
| 01:07.50 | Ace2016 | i'll tolerate glitches in 3d but 2d speed is what a desktop needs to be all about |
| 01:08.12 | Racchio | my ati randomly hangs the entire system |
| 01:08.36 | Ace2016 | hardware issue? could be ram |
| 01:08.46 | Ace2016 | my ram died after hanging completely |
| 01:08.51 | Ace2016 | ocz junk |
| 01:08.59 | Ace2016 | also hates ocz |
| 01:09.00 | Racchio | three different ati cards did the same |
| 01:09.24 | Ace2016 | there you go, clearly its not the graphics card now is it |
| 01:09.30 | Racchio | nvidia don't |
| 01:10.04 | Racchio | but is slow with kde4 |
| 01:10.08 | Ace2016 | motherboard issue |
| 01:11.13 | Ace2016 | i think there is a bug in krunner |
| 01:11.16 | Racchio | oh wait: problems with ati are there only when i use openGl |
| 01:11.31 | Racchio | or 3d related stuff |
| 01:11.36 | Ace2016 | or power |
| 01:12.12 | Ace2016 | i have to type: system monitor for the icon to show up, system m doesn't show up, system mon doesn't make it show, the full thing is needed, how come??? |
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| 01:13.22 | Racchio | what happens with just system OR monitor? |
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| 01:15.04 | shiznix | Ace2016: try here -> http://userbase.kde.org/GPU-Performance |
| 01:15.12 | Ace2016 | m... nothing, mo... nothing, mon shows kdiamond |
| 01:15.31 | Ace2016 | s... shows system settings |
| 01:15.56 | Racchio | weird... |
| 01:18.03 | Racchio | I must go now...ciaooo!/ |
| 01:18.10 | Ace2016 | bb |
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| 02:24.22 | syli725 | where is the screensaver setup in kde4.1? can not find it.... |
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| 02:25.28 | syli725 | please ignore my last question. just found it in systemsettings > Desktop. I don't know why "search" feature doesn't find it in systemsettings so I thought it was not in it. |
| 02:27.19 | Jucato | it does here |
| 02:27.36 | Tanktalus | "No rule to make target `kmail/org.kde.kmail.kmail.xml', needed by `kontact/plugins/kmail/kmailinterface.cpp'. Stop." <-- does this look familiar to anyone? (4.1.70) |
| 02:30.29 | syli725 | Jucato, yeah, it does there, but search feature iin systemsettings seems useless to find what I want. btw, are you still awake? no sleep? LOL. |
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| 02:50.11 | Jucato | syli725: it's 10:50 in the morning :) |
| 02:50.51 | Jucato | syli725: when you search in system settings, displays the group where you'll find the settings. it won't show you the setting itself |
| 02:51.15 | Jucato | like if you type "screensaver", it will display the Desktop group, which has the screen saver settings |
| 02:51.53 | syli725 | Jucato, yeah, you are right. :) just realized that. thanks. |
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| 07:25.11 | JackWinter | hi i have a problem with all my kde windows being resized and having the menubar placed off screen when exiting a wine/opengl game. i can see my wallpaper briefly tiled, so it's probably a problem with resolution. is there a way that i can lock the kde desktop to a certain resolution? |
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| 07:41.18 | Gyache | does kopete support webcam sending and receiving of window live |
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| 07:48.01 | Gyache | does kopete support webcam sending and receiving of window live |
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| 07:54.23 | wawan_root | hello |
| 07:54.56 | wawan_root | what is this?? |
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| 07:56.17 | JPT | hello, this is the nearly official kde channel :) |
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| 07:56.56 | wawan_root | oh good i love kde |
| 07:57.02 | JPT | me, too :) |
| 07:57.13 | JackWinter | me too :] |
| 07:57.25 | wawan_root | i think its better than gnome |
| 07:57.33 | wawan_root | if you ask me |
| 07:57.38 | JackWinter | still on 3.5.9, afraid to take the plunch :) |
| 07:57.49 | wawan_root | hehe |
| 08:01.41 | esperegu | what is the shortcut to get the main menu back in an application? I start it and it suddenly has no menu anymore. |
| 08:01.53 | irina_r | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:02.02 | rmrfchik | oh, korganizer doesn't support caldav :( |
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| 08:04.35 | esperegu | anyone? |
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| 08:11.25 | cb400f | esperegu: ctrl+m ? |
| 08:11.42 | cb400f | talking about the menu bar in apps? |
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| 08:12.25 | ccyuanye | hello |
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| 08:17.49 | tMish | How do I disable ^B adding bookmark in kde4 console ? It's vim key !!! |
| 08:19.46 | irina_r | tMish: Settings, Configure shortcuts |
| 08:21.11 | tMish | irina rempt |
| 08:21.31 | irina_r | you called? |
| 08:21.47 | tMish | ok thanks |
| 08:22.05 | irina_r | did it work? |
| 08:22.14 | tMish | yes |
| 08:22.23 | irina_r | great! |
| 08:22.27 | tMish | irina is russian name. isn't ? |
| 08:22.39 | irina_r | yes, but <sigh> I'm not Russian |
| 08:22.49 | irina_r | (always have to explain that) |
| 08:23.42 | irina_r | the name is also rumanian, polish, bulgarian, etcetera :-) |
| 08:24.07 | tMish | you are one kde staff members ? |
| 08:24.09 | tMish | of |
| 08:24.21 | irina_r | goodness no! |
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| 08:24.46 | irina_r | what makes you think that? |
| 08:24.47 | tMish | you're dutch ? |
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| 08:25.48 | irina_r | yes, does that make me more likely to be a staff member? |
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| 08:27.18 | esperegu | cb400f: yeah. that was it. thx very much |
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| 08:40.37 | thiago | tMish: I thought we removed all simple shortcuts in Konsole |
| 08:40.51 | thiago | tMish: yeah, we did |
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| 08:52.05 | aantipop | which files do i need to copy from my home dir to the root home dir to make applications i open as root look like my user's theme |
| 08:52.11 | aantipop | (in kde3) |
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| 09:01.45 | gkiagia | aantipop: run kcontrol as root and choose the same theme |
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| 09:02.58 | chakie_work | hm, konqueror is *incredibly* sluggish for http://planetkde.org/ on a *fast* system. |
| 09:03.13 | chakie_work | scrolling takes a computer age eternity |
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| 09:03.53 | chakie_work | about a second for any scrolling |
| 09:04.49 | chakie_work | probably all the flash banners and other resource sucking ads |
| 09:04.56 | GNU\colossus | chakie_work: works ok here. kde 3.5.10, intel gma graphics, exa accel |
| 09:05.10 | chakie_work | yes, it was fast on a 3.5 system |
| 09:05.34 | chakie_work | other sites aren't slow, but some are very |
| 09:06.01 | chakie_work | this is 4.1.2, that is |
| 09:06.29 | GNU\colossus | konqui 3.5.10 reproducably SIGFPEs here when opening a "My eBay" site... |
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| 09:10.58 | skwurp_ | Anyone know how to get kwallet to store a password after you have clicked "no" the first time the dialog box popped up for a site, but now you want to store your details at that site? |
| 09:12.02 | aantipop | gkiagia: thank you |
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| 09:26.10 | fartash | hi, I'm a fan of dark themes but in suse I checked kde4 and got a problem to work with non-kde4 apps like firefox and pidgin in which font colors are light based on theme and background is not, is there anyway I could have none of background nor foreground from theme in this apps? |
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| 09:34.13 | gkiagia | fartash: systemsettings->appearence->colors->apply kde colors to non-kde4 apps |
| 09:34.40 | gkiagia | either try to enable or disable this |
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| 09:35.13 | fartash | gkiagia: that wouldn't change the light forground color |
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| 10:44.52 | haffi___ | Hi, how do I setup two monitors on a laptop with an ATI card |
| 10:45.14 | haffi___ | I have kubuntu 8.10 beta and the proprietary drivers for ATI setup |
| 10:46.23 | haffi___ | the display configuration utility in KDE 4.1 only gives me one monitor option |
| 10:46.44 | haffi___ | and it seems like /etc/X11/xorg.conf isn't used for configuration |
| 10:47.29 | smyley | you should have something like the ati catalyst control center |
| 10:47.43 | smyley | i think it comes with the driver |
| 10:47.50 | smyley | you can configure it there |
| 10:47.56 | haffi___ | ok, I'll search for it |
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| 12:14.00 | sege | hmm, why can't i have two konsoll with different size? =) |
| 12:14.11 | sege | kind of annoying. bug of feature? =) |
| 12:14.42 | irina_r | which version? |
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| 12:15.04 | irina_r | can't you resize the konsole once you have it, or can't you start the konsole with a different size than the other? |
| 12:15.21 | sege | irina_r: Version 2.1 |
| 12:15.22 | sege | Using KDE 4.1.2 (KDE 4.1.2) |
| 12:15.34 | irina_r | yeah, same as mine |
| 12:15.44 | sege | if i resize one and then go back to my other one it automatically get's the same size |
| 12:15.54 | irina_r | eek, nasty bug! |
| 12:15.57 | irina_r | mine don't |
| 12:16.15 | sege | hmm, wait, maybe it's just when i've used 'detach view'.. |
| 12:16.27 | sege | probably is. |
| 12:16.29 | irina_r | oh! basically stays the same konsole in that case |
| 12:16.44 | sege | yeah |
| 12:16.45 | irina_r | I'll try that, could even be useful as a feature |
| 12:16.57 | irina_r | when I need another one I usually just start it with krunner |
| 12:16.59 | sege | no, i really dont think so =) |
| 12:17.07 | Half-Left | Unless you apply different window settings |
| 12:17.08 | sege | it's annoying the hell out of me =) |
| 12:17.38 | sege | i'll have to learn to start a new one instead of detaching i think |
| 12:18.16 | irina_r | I have one open atm on one side of the screen ,full height and about 1/3 width, running irssi, and another landscape-shaped to play nethack in |
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| 12:18.39 | irina_r | it would annoy me no end if they became the same size, true! |
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| 12:19.06 | sege | if you change between them or start a new tab they stay with their individual sizes? |
| 12:19.31 | irina_r | stay the same size, but they were started individually, not one as a new tab in the other |
| 12:19.46 | sege | ah okej |
| 12:19.59 | sege | it works here as well. just when i detach. |
| 12:20.16 | irina_r | when i do New Window from either it starts up as the default |
| 12:20.42 | irina_r | even New Tab and detach view becomes default size |
| 12:21.03 | irina_r | changing from one to the other keeps both intact |
| 12:21.08 | sege | detach, resize and go back to your 'main' konsole? |
| 12:21.39 | irina_r | nope, they stay as I put them |
| 12:21.48 | sege | hmm, mine don't. |
| 12:22.00 | irina_r | now has five konsoles of wildly varying sizes floating around the desktop :-) |
| 12:22.22 | sege | that's my ordinary day.. that's why this started to annoy me a little =) |
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| 12:24.40 | irina_r | sege: yes, I can imagine! |
| 12:25.02 | irina_r | must be a distro bug, I have the same konsole and kde version (kubuntu intrepid beta) and it doesn't happen here |
| 12:25.24 | sege | hmm, kubuntu 8.04 with kde4.1.2-repos. should be the same. |
| 12:25.55 | irina_r | I must say that (a) I got a konsole update this morning and (b) I hadn't tried split view until now |
| 12:26.22 | sege | looking for an update.. =) |
| 12:26.41 | sege | nothing there. well, i'll live. thanks anyway |
| 12:27.19 | irina_r | I think it's the intrepid update frenzy :-) |
| 12:27.52 | irina_r | 79 updates this morning, over 200 yesterday, new surprises all the time! :-) |
| 12:28.16 | irina_r | now kmail doesn't remember my shortcuts (though akregator does, which it used not to) |
| 12:28.59 | sege | haha |
| 12:29.06 | sege | beta is.. lovely |
| 12:29.43 | irina_r | :-) |
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| 12:30.11 | irina_r | I bask in the luxury of knowing that if it stops working completely, I can reboot to 3.5 :-) |
| 12:31.20 | _RedGhost_ | urg, kmail |
| 12:31.35 | irina_r | what's wrong with it? |
| 12:31.56 | _RedGhost_ | hm, don't try to use IMAP with a high-volume mailing list :) |
| 12:32.07 | irina_r | ah yes, but I don't do that :-) |
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| 12:32.39 | _RedGhost_ | it even ate some mail from that list |
| 12:32.40 | _RedGhost_ | :( |
| 12:32.56 | _RedGhost_ | and I find it generally pretty slow |
| 12:33.21 | _RedGhost_ | (though having the picture of your contact in the mail header is nice enough) |
| 12:33.51 | irina_r | <shrug> I don't have imap or high-volume lists so I might as well use an interface I like |
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| 12:40.06 | _RedGhost_ | sure, whatever works for you |
| 12:40.15 | _RedGhost_ | Thunderbird works for me :) |
| 12:40.49 | irina_r | okay, at least there's somehting that works! |
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| 12:44.14 | _RedGhost_ | yep |
| 12:44.39 | _RedGhost_ | for the rest I use kde apps, except for gimp and FF |
| 12:45.37 | irina_r | I'm married to boud of krita fame so we're his alpha testers :-) |
| 12:45.55 | _RedGhost_ | hahaha |
| 12:45.55 | irina_r | but my daughter the artist uses gimp if she actually wants to get somethign done. |
| 12:45.59 | Jucato | poor you :) |
| 12:46.11 | Jucato | hush irina_r!! don't say that in here ;) |
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| 12:46.18 | Jucato | is gonna tell boud |
| 12:46.59 | _RedGhost_ | That said, one day krita will beat gimp |
| 12:47.01 | irina_r | he knows! |
| 12:47.03 | _RedGhost_ | just on the interface |
| 12:47.05 | irina_r | yes, he knows that too! |
| 12:47.27 | _RedGhost_ | :) |
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| 12:48.21 | _RedGhost_ | my daughter uses inkscape |
| 12:48.24 | _RedGhost_ | and she is 3 :) |
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| 12:50.11 | Jucato | well if just the UI, then Krita beats it already :P |
| 12:50.27 | Jucato | irina_r: it's one thing to know, and another thing to publicly admit defeat :) |
| 12:50.29 | Jucato | j/k |
| 12:50.32 | Jucato | goes to bed |
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| 12:52.20 | Half-Left | it's just a shame Krita is a crash fest ATM :p |
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| 12:52.40 | Jucato | depends probably on what version you're using |
| 12:52.54 | Jucato | (that said, KWord is more of a crash fest for me... for some actions I can't seem to reliably reproduce) |
| 12:52.55 | Half-Left | And slow as hell with Opengl |
| 12:53.05 | Half-Left | without* |
| 12:53.26 | Half-Left | I just can't use it over GIMP any time soon |
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| 12:56.02 | irina_r | I've given up on KWord completely |
| 12:56.05 | irina_r | well, temporarily |
| 12:56.19 | irina_r | even getting used to OpenOffice. |
| 12:56.28 | Half-Left | Quiet like Krita's UI but I customize GIMP to fit my needs anyway so |
| 12:57.32 | Jucato | I'm probably one of the very few people (part of the insane group) that sort of likes the GIMP's UI (which I think is also the same as Adobe's UI on OS X). I use the same type of UI on Qt 4 Designer |
| 12:57.47 | Jucato | anyway, really gone :) |
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| 12:58.42 | _RedGhost_ | I used kword with sucess (to write something pretty simple) some time ago |
| 12:59.10 | irina_r | don't try the current version! |
| 12:59.16 | _RedGhost_ | I'll be glad the day it's useable enough to replace 5min-loading-time-oowriter |
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| 12:59.22 | _RedGhost_ | boom? |
| 12:59.28 | gergap | hi |
| 12:59.30 | Half-Left | 2.6 GIMP UI is better default but you can move panels around how you like, I never use the default, mind you I use GIMP daily |
| 12:59.48 | irina_r | crash-and-burn |
| 13:00.12 | irina_r | OO couldn't read my file afterwards, I had to open it with kate and select the text |
| 13:00.23 | flower | when will I know what the kde team does with my reported bugs/ wishes? I reported a important issue/ wish concerning the lack of freeness in kde4 to choose your own search engine in the 'new kmenu's search function', but no one is responding to it. I think it is a important issue when your slogan is. KDE: Be Free! https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=171316 |
| 13:00.27 | gergap | does anyone know how to add assembly files to CMakeLists.txt? e.g. "cas32.s" which can be compiled just like that "cc -xarch=v9 cas32test.c cas32.s" |
| 13:00.40 | irina_r | sorry, way over my head :-) |
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| 13:00.57 | _RedGhost_ | irina_r: that's brutal |
| 13:02.00 | Half-Left | flower: Search engine? |
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| 13:02.23 | Half-Left | flower: In konqueror you mean? |
| 13:02.33 | flower | Half-Left: no in the new kde menu |
| 13:03.00 | flower | Half-Left: you can search for apps, and then you also get an option to search on the internet with google |
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| 13:03.37 | _RedGhost_ | I'm not sure it's really worth it to invest time in this menu... isn't it due to be replaced anyway? |
| 13:03.40 | Half-Left | You mean krunner? |
| 13:03.46 | flower | Half-Left: I want to be free to choose which search engine I want to use, like I AM in konqueror etc and which should be normal when you use KDE |
| 13:04.07 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: there's a search function in the menu itself... not the krunner popup |
| 13:04.15 | flower | Half-Left: no |
| 13:04.33 | Half-Left | oh i see |
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| 13:06.52 | _RedGhost_ | well, it's not as much as a bug as a wishlit |
| 13:06.55 | _RedGhost_ | wish |
| 13:07.19 | _RedGhost_ | and there are many things more urgent, I'm afraid, so that's probably why nothing has happened so far |
| 13:08.28 | Half-Left | flower: Making a bit of a fuss over nothing really |
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| 13:09.52 | raininja | ok dying plasma |
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| 13:10.34 | Half-Left | flower: Google to be fair support opensource projects, found them, opensource their own apps and have a open platform themselfs |
| 13:10.40 | Half-Left | fund* |
| 13:10.57 | flower | Half-Left: you say nothing... I say then: you don't understand how important this issue is in perspect of philosphy... kde philosophy: Be Free! If that's your slogan, moreover your goal, you should act as soon as possible if users can only use a miljards company like Google for the search function in the menu |
| 13:11.05 | _RedGhost_ | *mutters malevolently about the copy/paste on Linux* |
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| 13:11.35 | flower | Half-Left: Doesn't matter what you think about Google. It IS a matter of principles for letting your users choose which favourite search engine they want to choose! |
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| 13:12.00 | _RedGhost_ | Come on, that's hardly a critical functionality |
| 13:12.12 | Half-Left | flower: Really that much of a issue in kickoff, it's only kickoff |
| 13:12.39 | flower | Half-Left: maybe I love Google maybe I don't like their privacy policy or position on the internet |
| 13:12.52 | flower | Half-Left: kickoff? |
| 13:13.00 | Half-Left | The menu |
| 13:13.10 | flower | Half-Left: you're right, yes |
| 13:13.13 | irina_r | the great ugly menu-type object |
| 13:13.24 | Half-Left | SUSE made it so ask them or the maintainer for it in KDE |
| 13:13.40 | _RedGhost_ | it looks like a UFO, that menu |
| 13:13.58 | Half-Left | Looks better in the coming 4.2 |
| 13:14.03 | irina_r | I'm using the old-fashioned one when i use a menu at all |
| 13:14.12 | Half-Left | But I've gotten to like it and used to it now |
| 13:14.26 | irina_r | ah well, whatever works |
| 13:14.31 | _RedGhost_ | krunner is quite enough for my needs |
| 13:14.45 | Half-Left | Old kde menu is a usability nightmare like the Windows menu |
| 13:14.50 | flower | Half-Left: how is kickoff named on bugs.kde? |
| 13:14.52 | _RedGhost_ | just lookign forward to quicksand |
| 13:14.59 | irina_r | I don't like this incarnation of krunner, tries to second-guess me too much and doesn't remember enough history |
| 13:14.59 | raininja | i despise start menus |
| 13:15.15 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: long time you haven't used Windows |
| 13:15.20 | irina_r | also, text box to type in feels cramped |
| 13:15.25 | Half-Left | I must admit I didn't like it much eather |
| 13:15.25 | _RedGhost_ | Remember, nothing is *sorted* in Windows |
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| 13:15.46 | Half-Left | Windows never had a menu like kickoff |
| 13:15.54 | _RedGhost_ | Vista has |
| 13:16.09 | Half-Left | it's a different concept and it's still different then Vista's |
| 13:16.22 | _RedGhost_ | yes, but much closer than XP for instance |
| 13:16.29 | _RedGhost_ | and you have the integrated search as well |
| 13:16.43 | Half-Left | Not at all, Kickoff is self contained, XP menu never was |
| 13:17.01 | _RedGhost_ | not sure what you mean by that? |
| 13:17.22 | irina_r | I only keep the menu around because I forget what things are called |
| 13:17.26 | Half-Left | it doesn't expand itself to show you stuff |
| 13:17.26 | _RedGhost_ | and I was comparing the old KDE menu to the current one |
| 13:17.50 | _RedGhost_ | ah, ok |
| 13:18.11 | Half-Left | half screen for aload of apps, quarter screen for a few apps, thats bad usability if you aks me |
| 13:18.12 | _RedGhost_ | what I was trying to say is: old kde menu > XP menu |
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| 13:20.27 | Half-Left | You can have a million apps in there and it stays the same size, imagine that in a old KDE menu or XP one |
| 13:20.43 | Half-Left | I've seen a XP menu fill the screen and go off it with apps |
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| 13:21.15 | _RedGhost_ | XP-style menu sucks |
| 13:21.21 | Half-Left | Who is their right mind would want a menu to fill their screen with a ton of apps |
| 13:21.39 | _RedGhost_ | hmm, looks like krunner is not overly useable when it has a lot of matches |
| 13:22.04 | irina_r | _RedGhost_: I partially solved it by not having it search my bookmarks |
| 13:22.06 | _RedGhost_ | no scrollbar, you need to click on << and >> and it doesn't scroll automatically to where your selecdtion is |
| 13:22.11 | irina_r | because most of thos start with 'www' |
| 13:22.16 | _RedGhost_ | lol |
| 13:22.16 | Half-Left | Again it's self contained |
| 13:22.24 | _RedGhost_ | I was just trying 'games' |
| 13:22.36 | _RedGhost_ | but kdegames has too many apps for little krunner |
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| 13:22.53 | irina_r | lol, I have only installed the games I actually play |
| 13:22.59 | irina_r | that's a dozen or so |
| 13:23.04 | _RedGhost_ | as for bookmarks, I use FF, so :) |
| 13:23.14 | irina_r | :-) |
| 13:23.17 | Half-Left | Thats why you have a next pagae lik option |
| 13:23.27 | _RedGhost_ | has not been completely assimilated by the Borg yet |
| 13:23.45 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: yeah, but you can switch from match to match with tab |
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| 13:24.42 | _RedGhost_ | I'd expect tab to <next_match_on_next_page> to change the page |
| 13:25.16 | _RedGhost_ | instead, I see it selects the top of an icon at the bottom of the krunner window, but I can't see the icon until I click on 'next page' -> not practical |
| 13:25.30 | _RedGhost_ | fortunately, I rarely have so many matches |
| 13:25.35 | Half-Left | Yer but people on the whole dont use tab so |
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| 13:25.46 | _RedGhost_ | you think? |
| 13:26.05 | Half-Left | You have to make KDE for people who dont know shortcut keys |
| 13:26.08 | _RedGhost_ | that's very useful with krunner, I can't imagine using the mouse every time |
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| 13:26.13 | Half-Left | or right clicks |
| 13:26.20 | _RedGhost_ | I think you have to make KDE also for people who do :) |
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| 13:26.54 | Half-Left | Well, thats just krunner for now |
| 13:27.00 | fva | hi, anyone else on trunk lost all global shortcuts recently? |
| 13:27.12 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: Bug report it then |
| 13:27.30 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: it's not a big issue, I should probably report later, but I'm not going to whine loudly about it |
| 13:27.38 | _RedGhost_ | particularly if it's a pain to fix |
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| 13:28.15 | Half-Left | Well it's not your concern if it is, if it's a valid bug is should get fixed like other bugs |
| 13:28.16 | indietrash | hey is there any way to have kmix shortcuts available in full screen applications? I want to regulate the volume whilst playing Neverwinter Nights. |
| 13:28.23 | _RedGhost_ | I'd rather the tray icons don't look like pooh |
| 13:29.01 | _RedGhost_ | what I mean is that it shouldn't be seen as high-priority |
| 13:29.03 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: Now thats a bigger issue, the new spec for the tray should be here soon |
| 13:29.33 | Half-Left | Next tech shows old tech bugs |
| 13:29.37 | Half-Left | new* |
| 13:29.49 | _RedGhost_ | trolls a bit... I wouldn't mind if it was Gnome, the rest of the desktop is already ugly :D |
| 13:30.19 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: so you think it'll make it for 4.2? |
| 13:31.02 | Half-Left | Not sure, I think they are still threashing it out with the GTK devs and freedesktop |
| 13:31.34 | _RedGhost_ | drat |
| 13:31.47 | Half-Left | But it will be much better than anything before it |
| 13:31.57 | _RedGhost_ | it's one of my two real points of contentions with kde4 |
| 13:32.41 | Half-Left | Well people are saying ATI cards dont ahve tray corruption |
| 13:32.46 | Half-Left | have* |
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| 13:33.14 | Half-Left | And trunk seems to work better, but randomly |
| 13:33.50 | _RedGhost_ | Half-Left: well, actually... I have the ati driver and a Radeon on the laptop |
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| 13:34.05 | _RedGhost_ | and my system tray looks like my home computer with an Nvidia |
| 13:34.19 | Half-Left | Yer, it's pretty random that it happens |
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| 13:35.34 | Half-Left | But Aaron has made it quiet clear about how he feels about apps and system tray :p |
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| 13:36.03 | _RedGhost_ | That they should be taken behind the chemical shed and shot? |
| 13:36.30 | Half-Left | Some apps shouldn't be even in the tray |
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| 13:36.48 | Half-Left | They course much evil |
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| 13:37.37 | _RedGhost_ | I would imagine |
| 13:37.49 | Half-Left | I dont think people understand that apps int he tray colour evil and the devs who make it look good kind of like a hack just for that |
| 13:37.57 | Half-Left | course* |
| 13:38.07 | _RedGhost_ | there's that, and there's the sheer number of them |
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| 13:38.20 | Half-Left | exactly |
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| 13:38.49 | _RedGhost_ | it doesn't work too badly on Windows, actually |
| 13:38.55 | _RedGhost_ | since it hides 'inactive' apps |
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| 13:39.31 | Half-Left | Yer because Windows apps have so many, hiding them doesn't hide the problem |
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| 13:39.48 | Half-Left | It doesn't solve anything |
| 13:39.53 | _RedGhost_ | it makes it manageable for the user |
| 13:39.56 | _RedGhost_ | a little |
| 13:40.16 | Half-Left | What, hiding apps that you can see? |
| 13:40.25 | Half-Left | Oh great |
| 13:40.26 | _RedGhost_ | hiding antivirus and co |
| 13:41.18 | _RedGhost_ | but I agree that you can still end up with a bloated system tray |
| 13:41.27 | _RedGhost_ | particularly on pre-installed system |
| 13:41.29 | _RedGhost_ | +s |
| 13:42.26 | Half-Left | most apps dont need to be in there, they should be transparent to the user |
| 13:44.15 | _RedGhost_ | agreed |
| 13:44.20 | _RedGhost_ | but it's convenient for some apps |
| 13:44.33 | _RedGhost_ | like an email client or an IM or a feed reader |
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| 13:44.43 | _RedGhost_ | or amarok |
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| 13:45.05 | Half-Left | _RedGhost_: I watched a GIMP video and this guy had it on Windows and kept getting popups from the tray about virus's :p |
| 13:45.21 | _RedGhost_ | rolf |
| 13:45.57 | Half-Left | No, dont tell me, just friggin deal with it and leave me alone |
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| 13:46.30 | _RedGhost_ | well, I guess I prefer warning to "zoinks, I killed your app" |
| 13:46.38 | Half-Left | You buy a app like that to take care of it, not to be bugged about it, just do it and leave the user alone, same with firewalls |
| 13:48.10 | Half-Left | But thats windos, flawed OS if ever I saw one, but anyway |
| 13:48.25 | Half-Left | Windows* |
| 13:49.39 | _RedGhost_ | no argument about Windows' flaws |
| 13:49.52 | _RedGhost_ | though to be honest no OS are free of it |
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| 13:53.18 | Half-Left | catch you later |
| 13:53.34 | _RedGhost_ | byye |
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| 15:25.20 | ASIRIneiluj | Hi ! |
| 15:25.36 | ajani_mgo | hmm |
| 15:25.38 | ajani_mgo | hi? |
| 15:25.51 | ASIRIneiluj | is there any user of kleopatra 2.0.0-rc1 here ? |
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| 15:26.34 | ASIRIneiluj | ajani_mgo: hi, hello, greetings, ... |
| 15:26.56 | _RedGhost_ | nope |
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| 15:27.03 | ASIRIneiluj | I'm getting a strange behavior and I'm wondering if it's a misuse on my side or a bug |
| 15:27.06 | ajani_mgo | what's that? |
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| 15:28.19 | ASIRIneiluj | when I want to sign a GPG certificate, I select "details of this certificate" then the second tab and "sign" button |
| 15:28.53 | ASIRIneiluj | I get a wizard, on the first screen I check the checkbox, then click next |
| 15:29.43 | ASIRIneiluj | but on the second page, it's impossible for me to finish "sign" button is greyed |
| 15:29.57 | ASIRIneiluj | am I doing something wrong, is that just not implemented yet, or am I facing a bug ? |
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| 16:12.32 | stevem_ | Lo, I just read a wikipedia article (so I must check :P) that Konquerer in KDE 4.1 uses WebKit not QT... this correct? |
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| 16:13.18 | ajani_mgo | yea i think |
| 16:13.42 | ajani_mgo | oh hang on |
| 16:13.51 | ajani_mgo | webkit and not qt? |
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| 16:14.02 | ajani_mgo | i alwaes thought webkit was the rendering engine |
| 16:14.12 | ajani_mgo | and qt the gui |
| 16:14.20 | ajani_mgo | and they need not necessarily conflict :) |
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| 16:15.50 | ajani_mgo | for one, i know it has at least till kde4 used khtml as its rendering engine |
| 16:15.52 | gkiagia | stevem_: konqueror uses the KHTML engine, which is the parent of webkit (webkit is a fork of khtml) |
| 16:16.05 | ajani_mgo | oo |
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| 16:17.12 | aleshus | is here anyone who have problems with openoffice 3 writer?? on my comupter it freezes few second after start. i am using arch linux distro |
| 16:17.24 | stevem_ | gkiagia, I know the history of WebKit and KHTML - so wikipedia is wrong? |
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| 16:17.39 | gkiagia | stevem_: link? |
| 16:17.51 | stevem_ | It says that KDE 4.1's Konquerer will use the Trolltech QT port of WebKit |
| 16:17.55 | stevem_ | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_KHTML_and_WebKit#Ports |
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| 16:21.24 | stevem_ | gkiagia, any thoughts? |
| 16:21.26 | gkiagia | stevem_: it must be reffering to the webkit kpart (an external plugin to use webkit in konqueror) that is being separately developed, but it's status is unknown to me at least. |
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| 16:21.59 | gkiagia | this information must be out of date. I haven't seen this for kde 4.1 |
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| 16:22.11 | gkiagia | maybe someone else in here knows? |
| 16:22.14 | stevem_ | gkiagia, I think Kubuntu has that plugin and its on my default |
| 16:22.18 | stevem_ | *by |
| 16:22.36 | gkiagia | well, I don't use kubuntu, so I don't know |
| 16:22.42 | stevem_ | neither do I :D |
| 16:22.48 | stevem_ | But I am thinking of trying Sidux with KDE |
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| 16:23.13 | gkiagia | good choice :) |
| 16:23.24 | stevem_ | they also have XFCE :P which looks nice too |
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| 16:23.37 | stevem_ | But it depends on if they've solved the sucky menu editor issue |
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| 16:27.38 | Half-Left | Xfce has turned into a gnome clone, they may as well have folked gnome and called it xfce |
| 16:28.11 | ASIRIneiluj | Half-Left: what does it have to do with KDE ? |
| 16:28.56 | Half-Left | ASIRIneiluj: Nothing what so ever, responding to above if you most know |
| 16:29.24 | ASIRIneiluj | gkiagia: at least one information is defintively wrong in the WP article you posted, "Ars Technica website published an article announcing that the KDE team would move from KHTML to WebKit.[28]" |
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| 16:30.01 | ASIRIneiluj | that's not what Troy Unrau says here |
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| 16:30.32 | gkiagia | hmm |
| 16:31.36 | SeicherlBoB | I have a thinkpad without a button for the context menu. I'd like to use a acpi event to "fake invoke" that keystroke. Any ideas how to do that? acpi_fakekey $KEY_MENU is not working (xev is not responding) |
| 16:32.26 | Half-Left | Webkit seems to be the one to convert to ,epiphany already has it in the works |
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| 16:33.22 | ASIRIneiluj | he says that a Webkit KPart is being developped in parallel of the default KHTML KPart |
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| 16:34.31 | Half-Left | Yep |
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| 16:35.29 | gkiagia | someone please correct that wikipedia entry :) |
| 16:35.31 | Half-Left | shaves SSJ_GZ |
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| 16:58.53 | x_link | Hi! |
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| 16:59.14 | x_link | The K-letter in my K-menu, how can I change it to another icon? |
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| 17:00.14 | SeicherlBoB | I would like to configure a key to behave like the "context menu" key in windows (actually do the same as a right click). I tried to map it to "Context Menu" via KDE System Settings Keyboard - but that wont have any effect. any suggestions? |
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| 17:01.59 | SeicherlBoB | btw. I'm using KDE 3.5.10 |
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| 17:08.16 | x_link | So nobody knows? |
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| 17:11.35 | hyper_ch | huhu |
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| 17:12.00 | x_link | hyper_ch: You don't know anything about my question maybe? =) |
| 17:12.20 | hyper_ch | x_link: if you tell me the question |
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| 17:15.36 | x_link | hyper_ch: The K-letter in my K-menu, how can I change it to another icon? |
| 17:16.02 | hyper_ch | x_link: install another theme maybe |
| 17:16.15 | x_link | I just want to change that icon. |
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| 17:16.25 | x_link | hyper_ch: Where are this icons, I don't find it. |
| 17:16.33 | hyper_ch | x_link: no clue |
| 17:16.36 | x_link | okey. |
| 17:16.44 | hyper_ch | x_link: I never change theme or alter anything with it |
| 17:17.04 | enyawix | is kalrm working strange in 4.x? |
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| 17:17.22 | x_link | hyper_ch: Okey. |
| 17:17.24 | enyawix | sometimes it works some time it will not |
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| 17:32.37 | cr3rzemjest | hi |
| 17:32.56 | cr3rzemjest | i see .xsession options don't work for kde? |
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| 17:33.28 | cr3rzemjest | i found i should add symlink/script in .kde/Autostart but it doesnt work still |
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| 17:35.45 | Developper | hello guys i am trying to compile a program but it fails, it is part of the kde it says creating hash table permission denied |
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| 17:39.19 | Lokki | How can I type unicode characters in KDE based programs ctrl+shift+u doesn't seem to work |
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| 17:47.20 | lilltiger | øÅþÅĸj |
| 17:47.24 | lilltiger | :) |
| 17:48.04 | lilltiger | Lokki: AltGr+key gives some unicode chars |
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| 17:49.10 | Lokki | What's Gr? |
| 17:50.28 | lilltiger | the AltGr key.. just right of space |
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| 17:52.53 | Lokki | that doesn't do anything other than trigger the menu at the top of the window |
| 17:53.51 | lilltiger | how strange.. |
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| 17:56.30 | gta4kv | Hey! Anyone can get kde 4.1 packages list, please? My Ubuntu don't want install this by apt-get install kubuntu-kde4-desktop. |
| 17:57.21 | gkiagia | gta4kv: #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 17:57.40 | gta4kv | ? |
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| 17:58.04 | gkiagia | ask in #kubuntu-kde4 or #kubuntu |
| 17:58.15 | gta4kv | Oh. Well, thx. |
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| 18:04.53 | kriko | Anyone using k3b for kde4? |
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| 18:06.51 | awosy | kwin does not work for me using radeonhd |
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| 18:07.06 | awosy | it this a known problem? or is it just my config? |
| 18:07.35 | SimAtWork | i've never heard of kwin not working due to the video driver... |
| 18:07.44 | SimAtWork | are you sure it is kwin and not x windows in general? |
| 18:07.55 | awosy | everything works fine |
| 18:08.10 | awosy | but when i try to enable kwin it works, but effect don't |
| 18:08.22 | testi | I have samba shares I wish to mount. The entries already exist in /etc/fsab, but I can't find the control in KDE to mount them |
| 18:08.23 | awosy | like the tab swich replacement eg |
| 18:08.27 | testi | or unmount them |
| 18:08.28 | SimAtWork | oh, effects.... |
| 18:08.36 | gkiagia | awosy: does radeonhd support dri for your card? |
| 18:08.43 | awosy | yes it does |
| 18:08.47 | awosy | and it is enabled |
| 18:08.51 | testi | I have KDE4, Kubuntu |
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| 18:09.11 | SimAtWork | never done it with an ati card awosy, so i can't help you directly. but try googling for your distributions name and how to turn on "composite" in x windows... or something to that effect. |
| 18:09.16 | SimAtWork | affect? |
| 18:09.26 | SimAtWork | uh.. effect. |
| 18:09.30 | gkiagia | testi: sudo mount ... |
| 18:09.42 | awosy | ok will do SimAtWork thx |
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| 18:10.04 | gkiagia | awosy: you can also try switching kwin to xrender mode |
| 18:10.11 | gkiagia | from the advanced settings |
| 18:10.40 | testi | gkiagia: Yes I know (it also works without sudo), but I want to control it via KDE and not via command line |
| 18:10.49 | awosy | that's the problem i guess gkiagia i can't switch to the other mode |
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| 18:11.34 | gkiagia | testi: smb4k ? that's a kde3 app but works pretty good |
| 18:11.36 | luke-jr | awosy: IIRC, radeonhd is still in development |
| 18:11.51 | awosy | gkiagia: i can't switch to the open gl mode |
| 18:12.12 | luke-jr | awosy: it's probably a bug in radeonhd |
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| 18:12.53 | testi | gkiagia: nono, i remember when I had KDE3 I had symbols on my desktop for these cifs fstab entries and clicking them was sufficient for these to be mounted. |
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| 18:13.44 | testi | Or when I opened the "system:/" in Konqueror, but "system:/" no longer exists here |
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| 18:17.32 | gkiagia | testi: doesn't dolphin show them in the sidebar? |
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| 18:24.40 | enyawix | kriko k3b for kde4? is that out? |
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| 18:25.27 | enyawix | Konversation? |
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| 18:32.18 | testi | gkiagia: no it doesn't, can i add them there? |
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| 18:46.16 | crazy_pete | Please tell me, when i am in a multi-tabbed konsole window, is there a way to switch tabs without using the mouse? (I checked the help and all the menu choices) |
| 18:47.12 | mrbig4545 | yeah |
| 18:47.16 | mrbig4545 | i cant remember though |
| 18:47.31 | mrbig4545 | shift + left/right arrow |
| 18:48.42 | crazy_pete | wow awesome worked perfect the 1st time, mrbig4545 ! |
| 18:49.10 | mrbig4545 | nice! |
| 18:49.19 | mrbig4545 | i keep finding new shortcuts! |
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| 18:49.38 | mrbig4545 | like just the other day, i found out you can get straight to vim from less, by pressing v |
| 18:49.46 | mrbig4545 | was new to me, and very handy! |
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| 18:50.54 | crazy_pete | wow |
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| 18:51.58 | crazy_pete | that worked the first time 2 mrbig4545 ! |
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| 18:52.07 | crazy_pete | that is just beautiful!!! |
| 18:52.08 | mrbig4545 | cool :D |
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| 18:52.33 | mrbig4545 | you know the bash ones, there real handy, ctrl+d to log out, ctrl+r to search through history |
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| 18:52.54 | mrbig4545 | and ctrl+z to pause whats running, can then be sent to background with bg |
| 18:53.03 | mrbig4545 | like screen, but not as good, but sometimes better! |
| 18:53.52 | mrbig4545 | there all i know, so theres probably a tonne more! |
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| 18:56.29 | mrbig4545 | crazy_pete, ive found a new one |
| 18:56.41 | mrbig4545 | ctrl+shit+left/right moves the tab around |
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| 18:58.40 | mrbig4545 | well im off |
| 18:58.41 | mrbig4545 | ttyl |
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| 20:59.11 | opensourcecat | hi all. is the nepomuksearch:/ kio_slave usable to show, let's say, only items tagged as "x"? |
| 20:59.31 | opensourcecat | i'm trying with nepomuksearch:/tag:x |
| 20:59.53 | opensourcecat | but does'n work on latest openSUSE's UNSTABLE kde4.1.70 |
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| 21:01.59 | g2g591 | opensourcecat: well it looks like you're using a prebuild of 4.2 , so it may very easily be broken in there |
| 21:03.00 | opensourcecat | g2g591: so it should work with nepomuksearch:/tag:x? |
| 21:03.13 | opensourcecat | does it work on 4.1.2? |
| 21:04.03 | g2g591 | no idea, let me check |
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| 21:09.18 | Ace2016 | Hi all |
| 21:09.31 | Ace2016 | every single time konqueror starts i get a malformed url error |
| 21:09.49 | Ace2016 | what do i do about these? i get 4 of them in a row then the app shows up and works like normal |
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| 21:10.48 | Ace2016 | it also shows if i open a new folder in a new tab while middle clicking |
| 21:10.56 | Ace2016 | removing history had no effect :( |
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| 21:12.41 | aroedl | How can I move the K menu icon in the KDE4 panel? |
| 21:13.04 | Ace2016 | click on the liver icon |
| 21:13.14 | aroedl | Since I restarted KDE, the K menu icon is on the wrong side of the panel. |
| 21:13.15 | Ace2016 | then then try moving it |
| 21:13.20 | gkiagia | lol, it's a plasma icon |
| 21:13.21 | aroedl | hm... |
| 21:14.07 | aroedl | Any other ideas/suggestions? |
| 21:14.10 | Ace2016 | oh wait i mean stomach shaped |
| 21:14.15 | Ace2016 | aroedl: that works |
| 21:14.36 | aroedl | Ace2016: Thank you! |
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| 21:16.49 | thiago_home | aroedl: do you mean the right side of the panel? :-P |
| 21:17.17 | aroedl | thiago_home: Exactly. :) |
| 21:17.45 | thiago_home | so right is wrong? |
| 21:17.56 | aroedl | For me it is. |
| 21:18.48 | aroedl | BTW: I love KDE4! I'm using KDE since version 1 and I just switched to KDE4 a couple of days ago. |
| 21:19.17 | tdi_k | Ace2016: did you try changing your home directory ? |
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| 21:33.48 | Ace2016 | no i didn't change my home directory, i changed the default file browser though |
| 21:34.02 | Ace2016 | aroedl: nvidia for graphics? |
| 21:34.46 | aroedl | Yep. |
| 21:35.06 | aroedl | Works great. |
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| 21:37.28 | Ace2016 | aroedl: using Xgl? |
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| 21:37.53 | Ace2016 | What card is it? 7xxx? |
| 21:38.11 | aroedl | Ace2016: nVidia Corporation G72M [Quadro NVS 110M/GeForce Go 7300] |
| 21:38.57 | Ace2016 | thought so, if you had an 8xxx or 9xxx then you would have complained of how slow it was, even with the new 177.80 drivers |
| 21:39.06 | jazka | Ace2016: yea |
| 21:39.23 | jazka | and it just slows down after you use it for a while |
| 21:39.40 | aroedl | Here is my screen section, Ace2016: http://howflow.com/pastes/611 |
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| 21:40.09 | aroedl | Ace2016: It also helps to execute this: nvidia-settings -a InitialPixmapPlacement=2 -a GlyphCache=1 |
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| 21:41.19 | Ace2016 | i gave up on that, even with those it starts to slow down after a while, after a day or two going from maximised to restored window states takes far too long |
| 21:41.23 | Ace2016 | so i use Xgl |
| 21:43.04 | aroedl | My system is a 64-bit system. And of course, I have to use the nspluginwrapper for Flash. I have to killall npviewer.bin every now and then to get the performance back. |
| 21:44.27 | Ace2016 | same 64bit here but i usually have to killall -9 opera |
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| 22:04.38 | kexman | hi |
| 22:04.46 | kexman | could anyone help me get konqueror to work with my ppp ? |
| 22:04.52 | kexman | ppp0 is up and working |
| 22:04.56 | kexman | not using kde networkmanager |
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| 22:05.06 | kexman | kopete work |
| 22:05.08 | kexman | ssh works |
| 22:05.11 | kexman | name resolution works |
| 22:05.26 | Thundercloud | kexman: First question! You haven't got any proxies enabled by accident do you? |
| 22:05.28 | kexman | konqueror refuses to get me webpages |
| 22:05.33 | kexman | telnet works as well |
| 22:05.40 | kexman | Thundercloud: i didnt |
| 22:05.44 | kexman | i just installed kubuntu |
| 22:05.48 | kexman | and using out of the box settings |
| 22:05.57 | kexman | but anyway just to be sure where could i look for a proxy ? |
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| 22:07.05 | Thundercloud | Settings -> Configure Konqueror |
| 22:07.10 | Thundercloud | Proxy |
| 22:07.21 | Thundercloud | Make sure no weird settings are enabled |
| 22:08.44 | kexman | this kubuntu has a weired kde i tell you that :) |
| 22:09.00 | Thundercloud | Yep |
| 22:09.07 | Thundercloud | Kubuntu is pretty fail imo :) |
| 22:09.11 | kexman | fail ? |
| 22:09.13 | kexman | hehe :) |
| 22:09.18 | kexman | yeah i think that too now !!! |
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| 22:09.25 | kexman | ubuntu itself ... i am starting to think ... |
| 22:09.29 | kexman | never used it before |
| 22:09.30 | Thundercloud | Nah Debian |
| 22:09.38 | kexman | set it up at my friend |
| 22:09.41 | kexman | now he cant use the net |
| 22:09.47 | kexman | but we can speak over kopete :) hehehe |
| 22:09.52 | kexman | i mean he cant use the net ... |
| 22:09.54 | Thundercloud | :P |
| 22:09.54 | kexman | cant browse |
| 22:09.57 | kexman | anyway internet is so slow |
| 22:09.58 | Thundercloud | Weird |
| 22:10.16 | kexman | and i had to enable a bunch of weird stuff in ubuntu adept stuff just to get mozilla out of the cave :) |
| 22:10.25 | kexman | Thundercloud: problem is that i didnt set up kdenetworkmanager |
| 22:10.27 | kexman | nor kpppd |
| 22:10.38 | kexman | i am using a script that i start with "pon E220" command |
| 22:10.43 | kexman | and everything works fine |
| 22:10.52 | kexman | so konqueror would be expected to work as well right ? : 0 |
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| 22:11.49 | kexman | Thundercloud: so i should fire up kcontrol you say ? |
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| 22:11.57 | kexman | i use kde btw and i love it (under gentoo) :) |
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| 22:12.17 | Thundercloud | kexman: Nah not in kcontrol |
| 22:12.20 | Thundercloud | Just in konqueror settings |
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| 22:12.39 | volty | command line to move a window to the current desktop ? |
| 22:12.55 | Thundercloud | come again? |
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| 22:19.30 | kexman | Thundercloud: ohh |
| 22:20.01 | kexman | connect to the internet directly ! |
| 22:20.03 | kexman | no proxy |
| 22:20.30 | pinotree | volty: wmctrl |
| 22:20.46 | Thundercloud | Ah |
| 22:20.47 | Thundercloud | I dunno then :) |
| 22:21.16 | kexman | no idea ? :) |
| 22:21.23 | kexman | how could i test ? |
| 22:21.27 | kexman | debug ? |
| 22:21.28 | kexman | :) |
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| 22:25.30 | volty | pinotree: thx |
| 22:26.14 | NamShub | how can I convert the cps file from kwin's records to something else? |
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| 22:28.42 | NamShub | oooh got it |
| 22:29.10 | NamShub | [install captury + capseo, use cpsrecode] |
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| 22:30.11 | Kudos | kde 4 fedora 9, after running updates, when i start a session now the screen blacks out |
| 22:30.17 | pinotree | NamShub: http://apachelog.blogspot.com/2008/07/kwin-desktop-recorder-cps-usable-format.html |
| 22:30.20 | pinotree | ooh too late |
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| 22:30.41 | Kudos | it's weird, i still have the mouse cursor and i can see shadowy outlines if i right click |
| 22:31.06 | Kudos | any ideas? |
| 22:31.25 | NamShub | pinotree: and are the video supposed to have all sort of weird artefacts, do you know? |
| 22:31.41 | pinotree | has no idea |
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| 22:34.40 | NamShub | oh it seems like one color channel is completely off |
| 22:37.59 | NamShub | anyone tried? |
| 22:38.23 | NamShub | this almost work but i couldnt tell if its the recording that messed things up or the redecoding :P |
| 22:38.37 | Kudos | it seems there's some incompatibilty between the version of kde4 that ships with fedora 9 and 4.1.2 |
| 22:38.51 | Kudos | i deleted .kde in my home dir and it works fine now |
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| 22:47.39 | flyingfox__ | how do i change the default program with which to open .pdf files? i have several installed and want to make okular the default one. |
| 22:47.54 | pinotree | flyingfox__: kde3 or kde4? |
| 22:48.01 | flyingfox__ | kde4 |
| 22:48.06 | flyingfox__ | 4.1.2 |
| 22:48.16 | pinotree | systemsettings â advanced â file associations â application/pdf |
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| 22:48.48 | flyingfox__ | oh ... thx |
| 22:48.54 | flyingfox__ | must have missed that spot |
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| 22:54.01 | illogic-al | anyone here know why kdegraphics needs/wants gmp? |
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| 23:14.36 | Dashkal | Can someone direct me to the correct place to inquire about kde on win32? If this is appropriate, is there any plan to port plasma and the rest of the desktop as well as the individual apps? (think replacing the win32 shell with kde) |
| 23:16.42 | pinotree | Dashkal: #kde-windows |
| 23:17.20 | Dashkal | pinotree: danke |
| 23:17.47 | pinotree | bitte (disclaimer: i'm not german) |
| 23:18.13 | lilltiger | any plans.. bah plasma already runs on win32 scary but true.. |
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| 23:18.37 | Dashkal | lilltiger: sweet. I use win32 for the apps, but I'd be a very happy man to replace explorer with plasma |
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| 23:19.09 | lilltiger | id recommend you to replace win32.. but then some people like instability and viruses.. |
| 23:19.52 | w0 | hey there |
| 23:20.00 | Dashkal | I already have. I do serious work under ubuntu. That said, I am also a PC gamer and wine isn't really worth the hassle to me. Given that I'm stuck with it some of the time, I'm trying to reduce the pain of using it |
| 23:20.26 | w0 | I'm using some emacs-23 right now, and I was wondering if there was a way to make just the text background transparent using some black magic from kde41 |
| 23:20.35 | lilltiger | Dashkal: play wesnoth ;D great game |
| 23:20.48 | Dashkal | lilltiger: heh. my soul belongs to warcrack, I'm afraid |
| 23:21.11 | lilltiger | played that during the beta and got bored of it.. :D |
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| 23:22.41 | lilltiger | w0: dosent look like it, no way to exclude the text from the opacity settings that is :( |
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| 23:25.15 | Ineluctable | My trash folder says access denied (file name) to wat ever folder or file I try to delete. can any one help? |
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| 23:35.59 | daniele | hi |
| 23:36.25 | daniele | does anyone knows how to remove the animation of the icons when launching an application? |
| 23:36.28 | daniele | on kde3 |
| 23:37.51 | pinotree | kde control center â look & themes â application launch feedback |
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| 23:45.50 | daniele | pinotree: thankyou, i solved |
| 23:46.00 | pinotree | you're welcome |
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