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| 00:51.17 | junkDawgie | you might try kde-look for a plasmoid that monitors, zerkms |
| 00:51.29 | zerkms | is it kde3? |
| 00:51.31 | zerkms | *for |
| 00:51.42 | junkDawgie | no sorry i misunderstood |
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| 01:02.12 | zmainframe | Hi I have a KDE 4.1 question. WHen I log in after a session my widgets always end up piled up on the upper left corner of my screen. How do I avoid this? |
| 01:02.19 | zmainframe | I am running Debian sid |
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| 01:07.26 | zerkms | where to configure minimize/maximize window animation? |
| 01:08.49 | zerkms | found |
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| 01:15.01 | erulabs | Hey guys... Im getting connection refused to anonsvn.kde.org (subversion). Just thought I'd mention it. |
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| 01:17.45 | yao_ziyuan | dimming inactive windows should be made a default |
| 01:18.09 | yao_ziyuan | and the dimming better be gradual |
| 01:18.20 | QuAZ | yao_ziyuan: Is that a threat? |
| 01:18.36 | yao_ziyuan | QuAZ: you mean "should" is a threat? |
| 01:19.02 | erulabs | yao_ziyuan: I think it was the "and it better be..." |
| 01:19.05 | QuAZ | lol, I meant the "And the dimming better be gradual" :) |
| 01:19.08 | yao_ziyuan | ... |
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| 01:19.19 | yao_ziyuan | i'm not a native english speaker |
| 01:19.28 | yao_ziyuan | so i didn't know it has a sense of threat |
| 01:19.35 | QuAZ | Don't worry about it. It's fine :) And it's a good idea :) |
| 01:20.04 | yao_ziyuan | considering the Oxygen theme is very bright, |
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| 01:20.40 | yao_ziyuan | when there are multiple windows on the desktop, it makes it look all white |
| 01:20.52 | yao_ziyuan | so, dimming background windows really helps. |
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| 01:24.14 | octox2 | is it bad to install kdetoys3 and 4 at the same time ? |
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| 01:30.55 | gionnico | hi! my audio don't work. |
| 01:31.04 | gionnico | but i can't play audio and programs don't give me any errors |
| 01:31.24 | gionnico | what can I do? alsa works and also login/logout kde4 sounds work |
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| 01:34.50 | gionnico | so they think it's working .. but it isn't: where can I find the log in this case? |
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| 02:12.35 | jyoseph | hi, I'm using kde 3.5.x and want to run a script after logging in. I am in /home/user/.kde/Autostart but am not sure what to do from here |
| 02:13.11 | jyoseph | I created a text file called "startXModMap" and put "xmodmap ~/.xmodmap" ... will that work? |
| 02:17.12 | Jucato | jyoseph: make sure the script is executable. |
| 02:17.29 | Jucato | and put it in the the Autostart/ directory |
| 02:17.44 | jyoseph | Jucato: ah, ok I was doing some googling and found that it needs to have #!/bin/bash at the top of the file too |
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| 02:17.48 | jyoseph | does that sound right? |
| 02:17.59 | Jucato | yep |
| 02:18.12 | jyoseph | and then chmod +x scriptname |
| 02:18.19 | Jucato | yep |
| 02:18.32 | jyoseph | thanks Jucato |
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| 02:20.26 | jyoseph | http://pastebin.com/d723f7c60 just doing this to load my xmodmap |
| 02:20.30 | jyoseph | hopefully that does the trick |
| 02:20.39 | jyoseph | is a linux no0b |
| 02:23.13 | mewmew | jyoseph: it could be worse |
| 02:23.15 | mewmew | you could be me |
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| 02:23.24 | drivamgr2008Spri | Morning all. |
| 02:23.31 | mewmew | i'm re-installign my distro over a simple mistake involing midi's |
| 02:24.01 | jyoseph | mewmew: I've done something similar already, ugh I know |
| 02:26.31 | mewmew | i think my best mistake is when i deleted windows over a mistake and couldn't re-install windows installed linux then i was SOL b/c the distro didn't support any media mp3/dvd's and i had no net connection i could use to install the drivers |
| 02:26.36 | mewmew | that was my best ^^ |
| 02:27.33 | drivamgr2008Spri | Question: I have music files on my kdesktop. It used to be when I touched them with my mouse pointer, they would simply play out. Now, they don't. I have recently upgraded to a newer distro version and wonder if this is down to them or to kde to help me sort out? (KDE 3.5.9 / Mandriva 2008.1 (Spring Edition)) |
| 02:28.15 | mewmew | are your music files asscoited with any music player? |
| 02:28.22 | drivamgr2008Spri | yes. |
| 02:28.34 | drivamgr2008Spri | All music files are associated to AmaroK |
| 02:29.22 | mewmew | can you get mp3's to play at all? |
| 02:29.29 | mewmew | or music files |
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| 02:29.54 | bytor4232 | http://blog.scopeport.org/nix/lhc-kde/ |
| 02:29.55 | drivamgr2008Spri | yes, mewmew. All of my music will play in all of my applications, now i knocked pulseaudio on the head. |
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| 02:30.12 | drivamgr2008Spri | i am solely using ALSA again. |
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| 02:32.17 | mewmew | well i'm no guru or geek on linux yet. only thing i could think of would be forums at this point or if anyone here has linux knowledge HELP |
| 02:32.18 | mewmew | :) |
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| 02:33.31 | QuAZ | I don't use the desktop, sorry :/ |
| 02:33.37 | drivamgr2008Spri | mewmew: I'll say this much, when I find out who invented pulseaudio they are gonna get fmurrpled into deep space! :D |
| 02:33.38 | drivamgr2008Spri | lol |
| 02:34.07 | drivamgr2008Spri | never did I have a machine which used 48% of its cpu just to play an mp3... :) |
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| 02:48.30 | wesw02 | I'm using kde 4.1 on Gentoo |
| 02:48.37 | freeRag | WHATS THE DISTRO WITH THE LATEST KDE TO TRY OUT ? |
| 02:49.02 | mewmew | OpenSuSe is pretty up to date |
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| 02:49.27 | mewmew | wesw02: i didn't think Gentoo had KDE on its portage yet |
| 02:49.41 | wesw02 | its in a portage overlay |
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| 02:49.50 | freeRag | suse is signed a pact with the devil |
| 02:50.24 | wesw02 | mewmew, they've spent a good amount of time on it, it built with almost not problem |
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| 02:51.17 | freeRag | can i play urban terror on sUse ? |
| 02:51.23 | wesw02 | yes |
| 02:51.52 | freeRag | how do you know ? u a terrorist ? |
| 02:52.05 | mewmew | no clue what you can do on suse |
| 02:52.07 | wesw02 | yes :) |
| 02:52.13 | mewmew | i have a copy of OpenSuse |
| 02:52.21 | mewmew | but no copy of it running |
| 02:52.32 | mewmew | i want to try kubuntu/OpenSuse |
| 02:52.35 | mewmew | dual boot |
| 02:52.38 | wesw02 | i love urban terror |
| 02:52.47 | mewmew | however if its not easy |
| 02:52.51 | mewmew | i don't like to try it |
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| 02:52.58 | junkDawgie | hopes this urban terror is a game |
| 02:53.25 | wesw02 | it is :) |
| 02:53.33 | wesw02 | runs on the open quake3 engine :) |
| 02:53.40 | freeRag | its cops beating up inicents |
| 02:53.48 | junkDawgie | i see, thanks for the info |
| 02:53.51 | freeRag | its cops beating up inocents |
| 02:53.57 | junkDawgie | charming |
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| 02:54.57 | freeRag | just try it |
| 02:55.28 | freeRag | its the best linux game now that armyops isnt being developed anymore |
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| 02:57.04 | gmw | uhh, hi there... |
| 02:57.17 | freeRag | another achmed |
| 02:57.49 | gmw | i'm trying to use emerge to build kde-windows stuff, and it always worked fine, but now i get error "unable to connect to anonsvn.kde.org, connection refused" and alike |
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| 02:58.15 | freeRag | its Ramadan lets take them out wile they r starving them selfs |
| 02:58.22 | wesw02 | gmw, are you on gentoo? |
| 02:58.30 | gmw | wesw02, no, win32 :D |
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| 02:58.39 | wesw02 | oh haha, i misread |
| 02:58.41 | Jucato | Emerge in this case is the kde-windows installer |
| 02:58.43 | wesw02 | i saw emerge |
| 02:58.49 | wesw02 | yea haha |
| 02:58.58 | Jucato | you saw right, but different context |
| 02:59.00 | gmw | yes, but the problem seems to be that it can't reacht the server (it seems to be online though) |
| 02:59.09 | Jucato | gmw: the mirrors to svn might be down |
| 02:59.28 | gmw | Jucato, yeah i figured, i only wanted to know if it's a known condition ;) |
| 02:59.53 | Jucato | anonsvn only makes use of mirrors, you don't connect to KDE's SVN server itself. so the svn server may be up, but anonsvn might not be working |
| 03:00.21 | gmw | mhh, guess i'll just wait a while then^^ |
| 03:02.00 | gmw | a lot of strange things happend today though... first, my windows media stream ripper stopped working for no coneivable reason (it might have had something to do with the motherboard getting too hot and having negative effects on the network adapter though) |
| 03:02.43 | gmw | then, for some unknown reason the command line wouldn't like my PATH settings anymore and refused starting processes from the win32/system directory, until i changed the path from %systemroot% to actual c:/windows .... and now this ... not having a good computer day ;) |
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| 03:11.29 | drivamgr2008Spri | Anyone else got any clues on my missing sound file previews??? I got someone with me right now who is helping as much as possible, but I think this will be a KDE help thing... |
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| 03:17.02 | luke-jr | lukehasnoname`: -.- |
| 03:17.08 | lukehasnoname` | what's up |
| 03:17.21 | lukehasnoname` | heh |
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| 03:18.46 | lukehasnoname` | question, since I don't feel like google-investigating: Apparently KDE 3 had a "right click on the desktop for apps menu" function one of my professors is very fond of, does KDE 4 have an option to turn that on? |
| 03:19.20 | N9NU | you mean to launch apps from? |
| 03:19.27 | Jucato | none (so far) |
| 03:19.56 | lukehasnoname` | I'm a gnome guy, so I don't know the specifics. I suppose it was something similar to fluxbox's right click -> all apps menu |
| 03:20.17 | luke-jr | lukehasnoname`: middle-click shows a menu of all open windows, on all virtual desktops.. |
| 03:20.27 | luke-jr | no idea if KDE 4 has it tho |
| 03:21.08 | g2g591 | grr, stupid anonsvn.kde.org refusing my connection |
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| 03:24.24 | Jucato | g2g591: seems like it's down. someone else was having problems too |
| 03:24.31 | Jucato | luke-jr: none in kde4 (yet) |
| 03:25.50 | lukehasnoname` | Jucato: well, that's a showstopper for my prof, heh |
| 03:26.27 | Chani | lukehasnoname`: kde4 is missing that right now. contextmenu plugins are planned, but I'm not sure when we'll have time. not for 4.2 |
| 03:26.52 | Chani | lukehasnoname`: it'd probably be possible to write a containment with that feature right now, though |
| 03:27.07 | N9NU | you can get context menus if you add a "folder view" widget to your desktop |
| 03:27.08 | Chani | s/probably/almost certainly |
| 03:27.15 | N9NU | and then right click within that space |
| 03:27.51 | Jucato | N9NU: different kind, compared to the KDE 3 feature he was mentioning |
| 03:28.01 | N9NU | roger that |
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| 03:39.27 | wesw02 | So I'm still having this issue, some elements of KDE4.1 seem to think that the resolution is slightly bigger than what it is, when I maximize a window it goes too far, when my task bar is on the bottom or right only 1/4 of it is visible, is anyone else experiencing this? |
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| 03:52.30 | chubs_ | slackware, kde 4.1. how do I get a panel on the bottom? |
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| 03:54.11 | xjunior | I'm using Gentoo GNU/Linux. I just upgraded from kde 4.1.0 to kde 4.1.1, but now I can't login into KDE. The most curious part is that /usr/kde/4.1/ is empty. The binaries of the KDE apps are in /usr/bin/. Can somebody please help me? |
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| 03:55.18 | N9NU | from a terminal, did you try typing "kde4" ? |
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| 03:57.37 | xjunior | N9NU: yes, it's there |
| 03:57.57 | xjunior | N9NU: it's on /usr/bin/kde4 |
| 03:58.50 | N9NU | hmm |
| 03:58.58 | N9NU | what error you get |
| 03:59.29 | N9NU | did you also try running "startx" |
| 04:00.42 | xjunior | N9NU: if I run startx, I just get a black screen with the mouse pointer as a "X" |
| 04:01.20 | N9NU | ah |
| 04:01.32 | N9NU | i had that before, but i cannot for the life of me what i did |
| 04:01.43 | xjunior | if I loggin from kdm, I got a small terminal (xterm), without window border, in the top-left corner |
| 04:01.58 | N9NU | oh |
| 04:02.13 | N9NU | did you try loggin in from a "konsole" or "terminal |
| 04:02.18 | N9NU | not KDM |
| 04:02.22 | N9NU | run level 3 |
| 04:02.35 | xjunior | N9NU: this might be some missing package |
| 04:02.39 | xjunior | N9NU: humm? |
| 04:02.46 | N9NU | lemme check something online' |
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| 04:08.23 | xjunior | N9NU: something? |
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| 04:11.09 | N9NU | i find some bits and pieces |
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| 04:11.16 | N9NU | of others having the same issues |
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| 04:11.24 | N9NU | there seems to be a file missing |
| 04:12.05 | xjunior | hummmm some solution? |
| 04:12.17 | xjunior | or should I rollback to 4.1 ? |
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| 04:13.20 | N9NU | i cant find what file it is |
| 04:13.22 | N9NU | lol |
| 04:13.28 | xjunior | wow |
| 04:13.40 | xjunior | what did you search for? I couldn't find nothing |
| 04:14.08 | N9NU | lemme paste something |
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| 04:15.21 | N9NU | http://gentoo-wiki.com/KDE4 |
| 04:15.27 | N9NU | i started there just to check out things |
| 04:15.53 | xjunior | right |
| 04:15.56 | xjunior | but, there isn't nothing there,right? |
| 04:16.08 | N9NU | and wound up at gentoo bugzilla |
| 04:16.40 | xjunior | ok |
| 04:17.28 | N9NU | aw heck |
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| 04:17.35 | N9NU | they have a #gentookde channel here |
| 04:17.37 | N9NU | lol |
| 04:17.40 | N9NU | gentoo-kde |
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| 04:18.17 | xjunior | they do, but they don't answer me ther |
| 04:18.29 | N9NU | bah |
| 04:18.32 | xjunior | acctually, they don't say anything there |
| 04:18.33 | N9NU | typical |
| 04:18.37 | xjunior | a ghost channel |
| 04:19.27 | N9NU | i know kde 4 in and out for my distro (mandriva cooker 64) but i do not know the gentoo /etc or /opt layout |
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| 04:22.22 | N9NU | Can anyone tell me what I need to do to resolve this kstartupconfig error message in order to successfully start KDE4? |
| 04:22.24 | N9NU | edit: The full message is: Could not start kstartupconfig. Check your installation. |
| 04:22.39 | N9NU | looks like someone else has a prob with it |
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| 04:23.11 | N9NU | "kstartupconfig4" |
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| 04:33.52 | Chani | hates it when she goes to answer a question and the person has left |
| 04:34.42 | xjunior | Chani: well, you can answer mine then :) |
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| 04:44.36 | slim_ | hello all, is there kmymoney for kde4 ? |
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| 04:46.37 | yao_ziyuan | i saw a bug report that kscapshot doesn't work in kd34 |
| 04:46.40 | yao_ziyuan | *kde4 |
| 04:46.44 | yao_ziyuan | how to make it work? |
| 04:46.51 | yao_ziyuan | currently i can only use ctrl+printscreen |
| 04:47.08 | yao_ziyuan | but it doesn't create an image file directly |
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| 04:47.41 | stylish | Does anyone here know where kdict is located in kmenu ? |
| 04:48.18 | stylish | I just run it from the application launcher, but I was wondering if it is in the kmenu ? |
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| 04:50.12 | stylish | I found it, it is in the extra applications on the internet menu. |
| 04:51.06 | xjunior | I'm using kde + KDM 4.1.1. When I login in kde-4 session, it's not working. it just shows me a xterm in the top-left corner |
| 04:52.59 | xjunior | actually, my installation is completely buggy. Some menus are "No Text", and files with latin characters are not being shown correctly (and they were before). |
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| 04:56.24 | Chani | yao_ziyuan: worksforme |
| 04:57.48 | Chani | xjunior: sounds like your system is pretty messed up. if you're getting xterm instad of kde, then startkde isn't getting called.... check hte session options in kdm, look for a stray .xinitrc or something that could be overriding things, etc... |
| 04:58.41 | yao_ziyuan | Chani: maybe you don't enable compiz |
| 04:58.56 | Chani | yao_ziyuan: had compiz on on my laptop |
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| 04:59.03 | Chani | intel drivers, though |
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| 04:59.28 | yao_ziyuan | Chani: i saw a bug report saying compiz conflicts with Input Actions, preventing PrintScreen to take effect |
| 04:59.29 | gmw | any idea on how long the svn will be down? i can see daylight through the window and i don't like it ;) |
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| 05:02.37 | xjunior | Chani: look for xinitrc where? |
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| 05:03.46 | xjunior | Chani: I'm using the KDM session option in KDM |
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| 05:05.53 | Chani | xjunior: .xinitrc in your home dir |
| 05:06.03 | xjunior | Chani: there isn't |
| 05:06.09 | Chani | there are some other rc-files that can override things, but I forget their names |
| 05:06.24 | xjunior | Chani: where KDM looks for the available sessions? |
| 05:06.27 | Chani | could also be some other weird failure |
| 05:06.53 | Chani | xjunior: where you can specify which session to use, for example if you're not using any kdm |
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| 05:07.33 | xjunior | Chani: sorry, I missunderstood |
| 05:07.38 | Chani | I wonder what happens if you make a .xinitrc and put #!/bin/sh startkde in it |
| 05:08.14 | Chani | you could create such a file and then log into a terminal and run startx and see what happens... |
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| 05:08.22 | Chani | might narrow things down a little |
| 05:09.03 | xjunior | Chani: it works |
| 05:09.13 | xjunior | Chani: but still not working with kdm |
| 05:09.42 | xjunior | and, another weird thing |
| 05:09.56 | xjunior | all the menus in Dolphin (top menus) are "No Text" |
| 05:11.59 | sjraarke | Hi all. |
| 05:12.16 | xjunior | hi |
| 05:12.32 | sjraarke | Quick kde4 related question. Are there any known issues with web-related things? |
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| 05:13.25 | sjraarke | Displaying anything web related in kde4 locks up the desktop, doing the same thing in kde3 works fine |
| 05:13.27 | Chani | it bugs me a little that I need a swap partition larger than my ram for suspend-to-disk to work. anyone know if there's a way for me to tell suspend-to-disk to just use a file or something instead? |
| 05:13.40 | Chani | er. not quite the right channel. but feel free to answer anyways :) |
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| 05:14.17 | Chani | sjraarke: that's bad. really bad. no, it should not happen :) |
| 05:14.27 | sjraarke | Chani: That's not the way it works :) Swap has to be able to contain your whole memory, even that only used as buffer |
| 05:14.47 | Chani | huh? |
| 05:14.54 | Chani | why does it have to be swap? |
| 05:15.03 | Chani | why can't it be something else? |
| 05:15.04 | sjraarke | Chani: Your swap I mean :) |
| 05:15.25 | Chani | why does suspend-to-disk have to mean suspend-to-swap? |
| 05:15.35 | sjraarke | What would be the advantage? |
| 05:15.56 | sjraarke | Since you have to "swap" out the entire mem content |
| 05:16.17 | Chani | well, if it were a file I imagine it might be able to grow. also, I wouldn't have to worry about not being able to suspend because programs are *using* swap |
| 05:16.34 | luke-jr | Chani: make a script |
| 05:16.39 | Chani | if I'm using all my memory and then some swap, I can't hibernate |
| 05:16.49 | Chani | luke-jr: huh? |
| 05:17.00 | luke-jr | Chani: create a swap file, activate it, suspend |
| 05:17.05 | luke-jr | on resume, deactivate and delete it |
| 05:17.22 | Chani | oh. huh. wonder if that'd work. hmm |
| 05:17.31 | luke-jr | you'd need a swap partition still |
| 05:17.36 | luke-jr | since I think resume can't use swap files |
| 05:17.51 | rohanpm | Chani: it doesn't have to be swap |
| 05:17.56 | Chani | the suspend stuff seems like black magic to me. I can't even figure out how to trigger suspend from the commandline |
| 05:17.59 | rohanpm | Which suspend implementation is this? |
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| 05:18.07 | rohanpm | tuxonice supports suspend-to-file |
| 05:18.09 | luke-jr | Chani: suspend stuff is broken anyhow |
| 05:18.10 | Chani | umm... kubuntu feisty. |
| 05:18.15 | luke-jr | hibernate anyhow |
| 05:18.39 | Chani | hibernate worked nicely on my old laptop, so long as I wasn't using too much memory |
| 05:18.50 | Chani | the battery life was bad, so I needed it a lot |
| 05:18.51 | luke-jr | I never got hibernate to work reliably |
| 05:18.56 | luke-jr | it would crash 70% of the time |
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| 05:29.09 | ed_agemo | hello everybody |
| 05:29.19 | ed_agemo | i'm using kde 4.1.1 |
| 05:29.56 | ed_agemo | the icons on my desktop aren't in sync with what is on the ~/Desktop folder |
| 05:30.09 | ed_agemo | is there any way to refresh them? |
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| 05:34.44 | luke-jr | ed_agemo: F5 |
| 05:36.18 | ed_agemo | nop sorry, it doesn't work |
| 05:36.41 | ed_agemo | if I browse ~/Desktop via dolphin everything is correct |
| 05:37.01 | ed_agemo | but the icons are my desktop aren't |
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| 05:40.06 | ed_agemo | for example, if I create a new folder (either using mkdir, or from dolphin), the new folder won't appear amongst the icon widgets on the Desktop |
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| 07:56.14 | ultrav1olet | can I ask an offtopic question here? |
| 07:57.43 | pinotree | nope |
| 07:58.16 | kishore | ultrav1olet: dont ask if you can ask |
| 07:58.23 | kishore | just ask or dont |
| 07:58.26 | ultrav1olet | thanks |
| 07:58.28 | ultrav1olet | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:58.47 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: ##linguistics please, not here. |
| 07:59.09 | ultrav1olet | pinotree: thanks! |
| 07:59.11 | pinotree | (and btw, reading also the topic may help) |
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| 08:13.11 | yao_ziyuan | there is a small spot to the upper right of the active pushbutton |
| 08:13.45 | yao_ziyuan | i mean in the Oxygen style |
| 08:13.55 | yao_ziyuan | if you make a button focused, |
| 08:14.12 | yao_ziyuan | you can see a small dark pixel to the upper right corner of the button. |
| 08:14.21 | yao_ziyuan | that must be a bug. |
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| 08:17.43 | gkiagia | yao_ziyuan: not so important but true... however, bugs are to be reported in bugs.kde.org, not here ;) |
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| 08:19.01 | doitux|mob | every time when i start kde4 qtconfig is set to oxygen style. Any ideas how to prevent qtconfig to change the style? |
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| 08:20.18 | gkiagia | doitux|mob: not possible, kde uses qt and sets the qt theme to be oxygen. If you want to change the qt/kde style, you have to change it from systemsettings |
| 08:20.25 | ultrav1olet | doitux|mob: Qt uses the style specified by KDE |
| 08:21.17 | ultrav1olet | doitux|mob: the easiest workaround will be to create a separate user on your linux box and run your Qt applications from that account |
| 08:23.37 | yao_ziyuan | someone please report it for me... |
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| 08:23.54 | yao_ziyuan | someone who feels reporting easy... |
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| 08:24.12 | ultrav1olet | yao_ziyuan: what exactly? |
| 08:24.38 | doitux|mob | gkiagia: ultrav1olet: is there any way to change the qtconfig style from command line? |
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| 08:25.22 | ultrav1olet | doitux|mob: yes, use `sed` for that |
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| 08:27.42 | doitux|mob | ultrav1olet: where is the style info stored? |
| 08:27.52 | ultrav1olet | ~/.config/Trolltech.conf |
| 08:28.18 | ultrav1olet | style=Cleanlooks |
| 08:29.57 | doitux|mob | ultrav1olet: thx |
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| 08:33.22 | ultrav1olet | wlcm |
| 08:33.35 | Andycapp92 | list |
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| 08:41.45 | doitux|mob | ultrav1olet: i tried sed -e 's/style=oxygen/style=plastique/g' Trolltech.conf but it will not work :( |
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| 08:42.15 | ultrav1olet | sed '-i' not '-e' |
| 08:42.52 | ultrav1olet | besides sed is a case sensitive application |
| 08:42.56 | ultrav1olet | mind that |
| 08:43.50 | doitux|mob | ultrav1olet: thx now it works |
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| 08:49.58 | homoludens | hi. does anyone how i can get openoffice to use the normal kde printer dialog? (i'm using opensuse 11 and kde 3.5). |
| 08:51.10 | pinotree | homoludens: you should ask in an openoffice channel |
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| 08:51.31 | homoludens | pinotree: ok. |
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| 08:57.00 | ultrav1olet | homoludens: you probably have to install openoffice-kde-intergration package or smth like that |
| 08:57.27 | friedrich| | openoffice looks like poo in kde4 :) |
| 08:57.40 | homoludens | ultrav1olet: oh, i'll take a look and see whether i can find sth like that |
| 08:57.45 | friedrich| | that is - no office application on my eeePC :| |
| 08:58.07 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: I don't get you |
| 08:58.33 | friedrich| | ultrav1olet: well, openoffice used to integrate nicely into kde3.x |
| 08:58.48 | friedrich| | but in kde4 it is doing a very ppor job |
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| 08:59.56 | friedrich| | ProblemSolver: mind not using CTCP actions against me? |
| 09:00.08 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: you can install KDE3 in Suse |
| 09:00.27 | friedrich| | ultrav1olet: what are you trying to tell me? |
| 09:01.01 | ultrav1olet | Purge KDE4 and be happy :-) |
| 09:02.09 | friedrich| | ultrav1olet: but not on my eeePC, which is Qt4/kdelibs:4 only :P |
| 09:02.25 | ProblemSolvercsd | @fri: Sorry, got problems over here. lol |
| 09:03.07 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: It's just a dialog after all, get used to it and be happy :-) |
| 09:03.31 | friedrich| | huh? what's a dialog? |
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| 09:04.25 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: oops, sorry, you are a wrong person |
| 09:04.56 | ultrav1olet | that should go to homoludens |
| 09:04.57 | friedrich| | that's not very polite against me I believe :P |
| 09:05.07 | ultrav1olet | or I'm terribly sorry :-) |
| 09:05.25 | friedrich| | if you'd have used "you are THE wrong person" it'd be ok.. |
| 09:05.26 | ultrav1olet | will you forgive me for this? |
| 09:05.34 | friedrich| | but being A wrong person bothers me :P |
| 09:05.37 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: ah, OK :-) |
| 09:05.42 | friedrich| | yeah, you didn't mean it I believe. |
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| 09:10.42 | thinkgnu | where can i find krunner source code ? |
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| 09:12.30 | ultrav1olet | thinkgnu: websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/krunner |
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| 09:13.47 | anisfarhana | greetings all |
| 09:14.07 | anisfarhana | after updating kde4.0 to kde4.1 (f9) , i have lost default kde wallpaper...can anyone tell me why ? |
| 09:15.08 | annma | what is instead then? |
| 09:15.19 | anisfarhana | hello annma |
| 09:15.31 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: lost? then find it :-) |
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| 09:15.48 | annma | hi anisfarhana |
| 09:15.57 | anisfarhana | i just have fedora waves wallpaper , alien-night and more un-nice wallpapers |
| 09:16.07 | annma | did you ask fedora channel? |
| 09:16.26 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: yeah, #fedora is your best friend now :-) |
| 09:16.33 | anisfarhana | not yet , i decide to ask here irst |
| 09:16.56 | annma | in konsole type: kde4-config --prefix |
| 09:17.01 | annma | please and paste result |
| 09:17.07 | anisfarhana | hold on |
| 09:17.23 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: /usr |
| 09:17.27 | anisfarhana | annma: i just got /usr |
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| 09:17.45 | ultrav1olet | Fedora's default prefix for everything is /use |
| 09:17.46 | annma | ok the cd /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 09:17.58 | annma | ok then: cd /usr/share/wallpapers |
| 09:18.04 | annma | anisfarhana: ls |
| 09:18.12 | annma | what is in this directory please? |
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| 09:18.28 | annma | paste the ls FIRST LINE here |
| 09:18.32 | annma | first line ONLY |
| 09:18.33 | ultrav1olet | annma: I hope he won't paste here the contents of that folder ;-) |
| 09:18.34 | anisfarhana | annma: same wallpaper on right click at desktop |
| 09:18.37 | anisfarhana | okey |
| 09:18.46 | anisfarhana | annma: alien-night.jpg fulmine.jpg.desktop mystical_rightturn.jpg |
| 09:19.03 | annma | so Fedora did not install the KDE wallpapers anisfarhana |
| 09:19.08 | annma | ask them please |
| 09:19.48 | annma | nothing I can do for you, I can only swear KDE ships wallpapers and they should be installed in /usr/share/wallpapers for you |
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| 09:20.00 | anisfarhana | communication between fedora and kde isn't really good... |
| 09:20.20 | annma | really? |
| 09:20.22 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: mostly missing I'd say |
| 09:20.25 | annma | do they care? |
| 09:20.35 | annma | are you sure you did not forget a package? |
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| 09:20.53 | annma | and if they care, we do everything possible to help distros |
| 09:20.57 | anisfarhana | annma: this is happens after i updating my fedora |
| 09:21.11 | annma | personally as a KDE developer I very often work with distros |
| 09:21.13 | anisfarhana | annma: i know they not care...they focus more to gnome though |
| 09:21.17 | annma | not |
| 09:21.19 | annma | not true |
| 09:21.27 | anisfarhana | annma: that is what people said |
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| 09:21.36 | anisfarhana | fedora+gnome , not into kde |
| 09:21.40 | annma | do not write what people say |
| 09:21.43 | annma | NO |
| 09:21.44 | anisfarhana | im not sure though..but that is what people say |
| 09:21.47 | anisfarhana | okey |
| 09:21.51 | annma | anisfarhana: you are wrong so stop taht |
| 09:22.01 | anisfarhana | annma: i'm sorry then |
| 09:22.06 | annma | people say stupiodities like you do now |
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| 09:22.23 | annma | can you only say what you know for sure? |
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| 09:22.49 | annma | so now ask in #fedora about the wallpapers |
| 09:22.57 | ultrav1olet | annma: for sure there are many fedora patches not accpepted into mainline |
| 09:22.58 | anisfarhana | annma: if i say for what im sure , you must be mad at me again |
| 09:23.04 | anisfarhana | annma: ok |
| 09:23.06 | ultrav1olet | :-) |
| 09:23.17 | gemidjy | hello, I am using Awesome as window manager, and yet some few KDE applications. I dont have kcontrol installed and I want to change KDE applications font. Can I do it through some conf files? |
| 09:23.18 | annma | ultrav1olet: really? example? |
| 09:24.02 | ultrav1olet | annma: let's begin with the basics: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewvc/devel/qt/ |
| 09:24.16 | annma | where is it submitted to KDE ultrav1olet |
| 09:24.34 | ultrav1olet | every *.patch you see is NOT submitted to KDE |
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| 09:24.43 | annma | why not? |
| 09:24.48 | ultrav1olet | because it's there! |
| 09:24.49 | annma | and that's Qt, not KDE |
| 09:24.56 | annma | there? |
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| 09:25.13 | annma | you are saying KDE does not accept Fedora patches ultrav1olet |
| 09:25.13 | anisfarhana | i thought kde made from Qt |
| 09:25.27 | ultrav1olet | annma: http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewvc/devel/kdelibs/ |
| 09:25.28 | annma | Qt development is Trolltech, not Qt |
| 09:25.43 | annma | ultrav1olet: are THESE submitted to KDE and refused? |
| 09:25.48 | ultrav1olet | annma: I'm not saying anything |
| 09:26.00 | annma | yes you are |
| 09:26.11 | ultrav1olet | I just emphasize the fact of their existance |
| 09:26.13 | annma | Kevin and Rex are involved in KDE |
| 09:26.20 | ultrav1olet | great |
| 09:26.22 | annma | that's TOTALLY different ultrav1olet |
| 09:26.25 | annma | TOTALLY |
| 09:26.49 | anisfarhana | hands a cup of coffee to annma |
| 09:26.57 | annma | you imply KDE refuses Fedora patches but there's nothing like that |
| 09:26.59 | anisfarhana | calm down calm down |
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| 09:27.16 | ultrav1olet | annma: I don't imply that - I SEE that |
| 09:27.22 | annma | SEE where? |
| 09:27.25 | ultrav1olet | no matter what your opinion is |
| 09:27.33 | ultrav1olet | http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewvc/devel/kdelibs/ |
| 09:27.38 | annma | do you SEE where those patches were submittes to KDE???? |
| 09:27.45 | annma | who cares about Fedora cvs |
| 09:28.04 | annma | do you think KDE shoul look at Fedora CVS and try all this? |
| 09:28.11 | ultrav1olet | I suspect they were submitted and rejected |
| 09:28.12 | annma | really??? |
| 09:28.17 | annma | you SUSPECTED |
| 09:28.24 | annma | you SUSPECT |
| 09:28.25 | ultrav1olet | yes |
| 09:28.26 | annma | !!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:28.32 | annma | that's great ultrav1olet |
| 09:28.32 | ultrav1olet | why can't I? |
| 09:28.46 | annma | because you have no information about it |
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| 09:28.53 | anisfarhana | here we go |
| 09:29.00 | pinotree | i never seen some of those patches submitted to eg kde-core-devel |
| 09:29.00 | annma | and because obviously you do not know how distros work |
| 09:29.04 | ultrav1olet | I have the information - I see the patches hanging |
| 09:29.06 | annma | NEVER |
| 09:29.22 | ultrav1olet | annma: are you entirely sure? |
| 09:29.33 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: suggestion: if you have no idea about something, better do not speak - it is better for you. |
| 09:29.40 | annma | ultrav1olet: if you base your beliefs on what you SUSPECT I think you are not really in the world |
| 09:29.44 | annma | YES ultrav1olet |
| 09:29.47 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: you're speculating on something you don't know |
| 09:29.56 | annma | I am subscribed to every main kde mailing list ultrav1olet |
| 09:30.05 | annma | and I WORK with distros |
| 09:30.23 | annma | I even patch KDE when distros signal a problem |
| 09:30.46 | annma | I even GO TO distros when a user of a distro has a problem and I suspect it might be KDE |
| 09:30.47 | ultrav1olet | Well, sometimes I read LWN, sometimes I read linux.com or /. and I frequently encounter the stories when package mantainers do not accept patches ;-) |
| 09:30.58 | annma | package maintainers????????? |
| 09:31.04 | annma | KDE has no packages |
| 09:31.17 | annma | you need to CHECK your sources |
| 09:31.23 | pinotree | ultrav1olet: so you speculate on "stories" you read? |
| 09:31.31 | annma | ultrav1olet: you can read ANYTHING on the internet |
| 09:31.32 | ultrav1olet | well, in your case there's a different moniker but the essence is just the same |
| 09:31.36 | annma | GOD!!!!!!!! |
| 09:31.41 | annma | how immature ultrav1olet |
| 09:31.48 | annma | no ultrav1olet |
| 09:31.51 | ultrav1olet | annma: probably |
| 09:31.56 | annma | gosh |
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| 09:32.19 | annma | I read on the internet yesterday was the end of the world because of this experiment |
| 09:32.20 | anisfarhana | stop fighting guys |
| 09:32.35 | annma | weird, I live todayu |
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| 09:32.47 | annma | come on ultrav1olet and be mature |
| 09:33.08 | annma | as I said Kevin and Rex are interacting well with KDE |
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| 09:33.19 | annma | as I saw their names very often |
| 09:33.24 | S-i-A | hi |
| 09:33.29 | annma | so ask them if there are any problems |
| 09:33.35 | annma | just ask them |
| 09:33.43 | ultrav1olet | annma: Now I see I wasn't quite right |
| 09:34.00 | ultrav1olet | annma: most patches in Fedora CVS are very Fedora specific |
| 09:34.05 | gemidjy | hello, I am using Awesome as window manager, and yet some few KDE applications. I dont have kcontrol installed and I want to change KDE applications font. Can I do it through some conf files? |
| 09:34.11 | ultrav1olet | sorry for pestering you |
| 09:34.15 | annma | never broadcast an opinion you READ about |
| 09:34.21 | annma | that's nonsense |
| 09:34.33 | annma | always back up something YOU know for sure |
| 09:34.35 | ultrav1olet | annma: I almost never do |
| 09:34.38 | S-i-A | how can i see the youtube under kde, i have swf-dec installed but can't see pictures just audio? which Äodec need it? |
| 09:34.39 | annma | good |
| 09:34.47 | annma | so many people are stupid |
| 09:34.58 | ultrav1olet | S-i-A: install Adobe Flash |
| 09:35.05 | ultrav1olet | annma: right you are |
| 09:35.16 | friedrich| | lol :D |
| 09:35.22 | annma | anisfarhana: just check if you have all the correct packages |
| 09:35.30 | S-i-A | ultrav1olet: have no alternative ? |
| 09:35.31 | friedrich| | so annma is stupid? or she is right? :) |
| 09:35.41 | ultrav1olet | annma: BTW, this patch is worth merging : http://cvs.fedora.redhat.com/viewvc/devel/kdelibs/kdelibs-4.0.0-openssl.patch?revision=1.1&view=markup |
| 09:35.49 | anisfarhana | annma: i'm almost frustated when using kde+fedora , it's something like hurm... |
| 09:35.51 | annma | friedrich|: she works with distro people |
| 09:36.11 | annma | and this is good and works well |
| 09:36.28 | annma | I have a Fedora on my desktop, with KDE and it's very good |
| 09:36.35 | anisfarhana | annma: default f9 installer (not re-spin) have kde wallpapers , but after updating fedora , the kde wallpaper gone!... |
| 09:36.54 | annma | you did something xrong probably anisfarhana |
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| 09:37.07 | annma | where can I see Fedora rpms repository? |
| 09:37.22 | ultrav1olet | one sec |
| 09:37.29 | annma | in fact Fedora is so good with KDE as it looks like a compiled KDE |
| 09:37.30 | anisfarhana | annma: etc/yum.repos.d |
| 09:37.40 | annma | anisfarhana: an online repository |
| 09:37.54 | anisfarhana | im not sure then |
| 09:38.01 | annma | find out please |
| 09:38.04 | ultrav1olet | annma http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/development/source/SRPMS/ |
| 09:38.08 | friedrich| | anisfarhana: try "find /etc/yum.repos.d/ -iname "*kde*" |grep -i wallpaper |
| 09:38.12 | anisfarhana | thanks ultrav1olet |
| 09:38.29 | gemidjy | hello, I am using Awesome as window manager, and yet some few KDE applications. I dont have kcontrol installed and I want to change KDE applications font. Can I do it through some conf files? |
| 09:38.32 | ultrav1olet | welcome |
| 09:38.44 | anisfarhana | friedrich|: no result from that |
| 09:38.51 | pinotree | gemidjy: can you avoid asking every 5 minutes? thanks |
| 09:39.00 | friedrich| | oh, then it probably doesn't list packages there |
| 09:39.22 | ultrav1olet | friedrich|: $ yum search kde | grep -i wallpaper |
| 09:39.26 | friedrich| | anisfarhana: try "yum together with the 'search' switch for kde and the same grep" |
| 09:39.30 | gemidjy | no I can't, because of one flamewar u avoid answering others problems |
| 09:39.33 | friedrich| | yeah, something like that probably |
| 09:40.06 | anisfarhana | ultrav1olet: yumming is really really slow right now |
| 09:40.09 | anisfarhana | this is perfect |
| 09:40.19 | annma | anisfarhana: look at kdebase-workspace |
| 09:40.22 | annma | or ultrav1olet |
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| 09:40.35 | annma | doesn't it contain the wallpapers? |
| 09:40.45 | anisfarhana | i should stay with f7 before and upgrading to f9 only stupid solution! |
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| 09:41.11 | anisfarhana | annma: yeah i will try after yum finish the jobs |
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| 09:41.17 | ultrav1olet | f7 is EOL'ed since June |
| 09:41.17 | annma | the wallpapers are in kdebase/workspace |
| 09:41.20 | friedrich| | upgrading/updating should never be a 'stupid' solution - but well, it depends on the distribution. |
| 09:41.39 | anisfarhana | ultrav1olet: yeah i know , f7 now is legacy |
| 09:41.42 | ultrav1olet | I'm a happy f8 user |
| 09:41.44 | annma | upgrading is always difficult |
| 09:41.58 | annma | I have f8 as well with a self compiled KDE4 |
| 09:42.08 | anisfarhana | annma: that's why i do with clean install..this is clean install , not upgrading |
| 09:42.24 | anisfarhana | annma: maybe you compile kde4 for me inside f9 |
| 09:42.26 | anisfarhana | he he he |
| 09:42.28 | annma | so check the kdebase-workspace package |
| 09:42.42 | annma | compiling on fedora is very easy |
| 09:42.50 | pinotree | can you please bring this fedora-specific discussion out of here? |
| 09:42.51 | anisfarhana | o.O |
| 09:42.58 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: yum install kdeartwork |
| 09:42.58 | anisfarhana | annma: see!? |
| 09:42.59 | annma | Fedora is a very good distro which "respect" KDE |
| 09:43.09 | anisfarhana | annma: how come pinotree didn't respect fedora here!? |
| 09:43.10 | annma | kdearwork? |
| 09:43.17 | annma | he did not? |
| 09:43.27 | anisfarhana | "can you please bring this fedora-specific discussion out of here?" |
| 09:43.31 | anisfarhana | why out of here? |
| 09:43.31 | ultrav1olet | annma: I don't know but I suspect he didn't |
| 09:43.37 | annma | really |
| 09:43.43 | pinotree | anisfarhana: is this #fedora or #kde? |
| 09:43.46 | ultrav1olet | anisfarhana: it's very Fedora specific! |
| 09:43.52 | annma | the wallpapers are in KDE tree, just have a look |
| 09:44.01 | ultrav1olet | annma: 100% :-) |
| 09:44.03 | pinotree | anisfarhana: do you *dare* to read the topic, or is it deprecated? |
| 09:44.14 | anisfarhana | pinotree: im talking about kde wallpaper at first , not fedora-specific |
| 09:44.16 | annma | you guys are 1) saying wrong things and insulting KDE 2) bringing Fedora problems here |
| 09:44.36 | pinotree | anisfarhana: since when yum is kde-specific? |
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| 09:44.47 | anisfarhana | omg pinotree |
| 09:44.52 | annma | when you say KDE is not taking Fedora patches you are insulting us |
| 09:44.56 | anisfarhana | bleghh and grrr |
| 09:45.18 | annma | when you say "Fedora does not have KDE wallpapers" you are talking about a specific Fedora problem |
| 09:45.25 | anisfarhana | pinotree: im just following ultrav1olet instructions try search kde wallpaper via yum.. |
| 09:45.36 | annma | just look at KDE repository and see KDE installs wallpapers OK |
| 09:45.37 | S-i-A | any idea? |
| 09:45.45 | S-i-A | without adobe flash player |
| 09:45.59 | ultrav1olet | S-i-A: why don't you like it? |
| 09:46.04 | annma | anisfarhana: and you are polluting the channel for other users like S-i-A |
| 09:46.15 | ultrav1olet | it's 100% compliant with every flash in the world |
| 09:46.22 | pinotree | S-i-A: i think you should ask in the swf-dec channel, as it looks like a problem of swf-dec, if it cannot show videos but just audio |
| 09:46.41 | ultrav1olet | and these half-baked OSS flash solutions do suck as for now |
| 09:46.45 | anisfarhana | annma: ok im sorry |
| 09:46.49 | anisfarhana | pinotree: and u too..im sorry |
| 09:46.52 | anisfarhana | ultrav1olet: Package kdeartwork-4.1.0-1.fc9.i386 already installed and latest version |
| 09:46.55 | S-i-A | ultrav1olet: cause is none.free software. |
| 09:48.05 | anisfarhana | kdebase-workspace-wallpapers |
| 09:48.08 | anisfarhana | might be this one |
| 09:49.16 | annma | !!!!!!!! |
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| 09:51.40 | Gigantic | Hola... anyone know how to iconify a window? I could use kdocker I know... but |
| 09:52.03 | Gigantic | what I want is to minimize konsole to tray everytime I close it |
| 09:52.36 | Gigantic | likely it's a faq and has to be a tut somewhere... |
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| 09:53.29 | Gigantic | oh nvm I got it :p |
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| 09:54.38 | anisfarhana | annma: no respond to your question aight ? |
| 09:54.42 | QuAZ | Gigantic: How'd you do it in the end? |
| 09:54.56 | anisfarhana | annma: when situation like that happens , i always come here and ask :) |
| 09:55.04 | annma | ksystraycmd should put any app in a systray |
| 09:55.23 | Gigantic | yeah... dealing with the "close" part |
| 09:55.42 | Gigantic | ksystraycmd --title 'konsole' konsole is fairly easy |
| 09:55.43 | annma | didn't the package you mentioned installed it anisfarhana |
| 09:56.11 | Gigantic | but how to make it go systray on close is the question... |
| 09:56.17 | QuAZ | Holy shit. That's the coolest thing ever. :O |
| 09:56.33 | anisfarhana | annma: because yum told me nothing to be update , when i updating kdebase-workspace , yum says "need to be update" |
| 09:57.03 | anisfarhana | annma: better don't talk about yum here , someone might be shouting at me again here |
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| 09:59.32 | Gigantic | lol, that was weird in 4 |
| 09:59.59 | Gigantic | I sorta did it... but everytime I click the icon the screen turns green lol |
| 10:00.15 | annma | Suse desktop ??? |
| 10:00.17 | annma | ;) |
| 10:00.22 | Gigantic | lol |
| 10:00.41 | solsTiCe | hi. when i switch desktop, the window are really slow to be drawn. i never care to see that until today. it can't be because i upgraded my kernel ? |
| 10:01.07 | anisfarhana | Gigantic: one of my friends asked me like this after finished on f9+kde "Using vista anisfarhana?" |
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| 10:01.30 | friedrich| | ha, the LHC uses Linux in combination with KDE :) |
| 10:01.44 | friedrich| | so.. if any black holes kill us - I'll blame KDE too! |
| 10:01.47 | Gigantic | ha |
| 10:02.11 | Half-Left | friedrich|: Plasma will resist :p |
| 10:02.28 | Half-Left | And save us |
| 10:02.32 | friedrich| | http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/bigbang/gallery.shtml?select=13 |
| 10:02.39 | friedrich| | http://www.spiegel.de/fotostrecke/fotostrecke-35141-5.html |
| 10:02.42 | Half-Left | Yer, I read about it |
| 10:03.15 | Gigantic | omg now plasma is gone |
| 10:03.17 | scroogie | but i think their distribution installs gnome as well |
| 10:03.18 | scroogie | iirc |
| 10:03.28 | scroogie | It's "Scientific Linux Cern Edition" or something like that |
| 10:03.29 | annma | Half-Left: champagne!! |
| 10:03.36 | Half-Left | yay |
| 10:03.47 | annma | scroogie: normal that they propose both |
| 10:04.00 | scroogie | yes |
| 10:04.03 | annma | Viva Free Software |
| 10:04.05 | scroogie | but their KDE is quite old |
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| 10:04.12 | Half-Left | uses a plasma sheild on his desktop |
| 10:04.14 | annma | normal scroogie |
| 10:04.22 | annma | NO enterprize uses KDE 4 |
| 10:04.22 | scroogie | its because SCL is like CentOS, RHEL compatible |
| 10:04.33 | QuAZ | Gigantic: If you solve that closing thing, give me a highlight, k? |
| 10:04.37 | scroogie | yeah, but I have to use KDE 3.3 because of that :P |
| 10:04.42 | QuAZ | I'm busy with an assignment or I'd help :/ |
| 10:04.45 | annma | enterprises know that they need to use a stable KDE |
| 10:05.00 | annma | you should be happy to be free scroogie |
| 10:05.08 | Half-Left | lol |
| 10:05.09 | annma | my husband uses Gnome |
| 10:05.11 | Gigantic | QuAZ: sure... |
| 10:05.20 | annma | but he is happy to have Free Software |
| 10:05.29 | bonsaikitten | in a scientific environment a decade old is still young |
| 10:05.40 | annma | my husband HAS TO use Gnome |
| 10:05.41 | bonsaikitten | "never touch a running system" ;) |
| 10:05.44 | scroogie | reminds me of Fortran bonsai ;) |
| 10:05.44 | annma | to be precise |
| 10:05.55 | annma | bonsaikitten: totally true |
| 10:05.56 | scroogie | i see annma |
| 10:06.07 | Gigantic | :O are his boses feet fetichists or something? |
| 10:06.12 | annma | the IT admin only "supports" GNOME he says |
| 10:06.14 | bonsaikitten | scroogie: I've seen linux binaries from ~'92 being used ... that app just was "the best" for that specific task |
| 10:06.15 | scroogie | ive got half a system installed in my home anyway |
| 10:06.34 | Half-Left | annma: You dont put your foot down to much then and recommend KDE4.1 :) |
| 10:06.39 | annma | IT admins are often self-made people and it's already good if they are Free Software aware |
| 10:06.39 | bonsaikitten | it was kinda hard to get a compatible linker installed, but when it finally worked it was good for another decade |
| 10:06.42 | scroogie | ya, we've got a SGI in our basement as well |
| 10:07.05 | scroogie | hehe |
| 10:07.18 | Half-Left | Yer, as long as it's freesoftware, who cares |
| 10:07.27 | annma | yes |
| 10:07.33 | annma | that's the real battle |
| 10:07.36 | bonsaikitten | GNU or BSD ? ;) |
| 10:07.51 | bonsaikitten | watches a heated discussion erupt around the meaning of "free" and giggles |
| 10:07.53 | nogagplz | How about some GND? ;/ |
| 10:07.58 | annma | not sure about large deployments of BSD |
| 10:08.06 | Half-Left | But Stillman says Ubuntu and some distros are not freesoftware proper |
| 10:08.19 | annma | and not sure people will go into this GNU/BSD battle |
| 10:08.24 | bonsaikitten | they don't talk about BSD because it is the workhorse that just works |
| 10:08.26 | annma | that's pretty pointless |
| 10:08.32 | Gigantic | annma: send them links to feet fetish sites anonimously ;) |
| 10:08.42 | bonsaikitten | many companies use it, but noone puts a big "we use BSD" sticker on the box ;) |
| 10:08.43 | annma | even me does not know the difference between GNU and BSD |
| 10:08.44 | scroogie | oh no please, no GNU discussion |
| 10:08.54 | bonsaikitten | likes both. |
| 10:08.56 | Half-Left | As long as it's fully free and give you freedom it's ok |
| 10:09.04 | annma | what's the difference for me for ex? |
| 10:09.06 | Gigantic | weee, legal discussion |
| 10:09.17 | bonsaikitten | annma: none, difference is when you write/adapt/distribute code |
| 10:09.24 | annma | if I licence my code under BSD instead of GPL bonsaikitten |
| 10:09.28 | Gigantic | to be short, BSD let u make comercial derivations from free software |
| 10:09.29 | bonsaikitten | annma: and even then you can mostly ignore it |
| 10:09.37 | annma | bonsaikitten: I am a devel |
| 10:09.43 | annma | really? |
| 10:09.54 | bonsaikitten | the big difference is that other people can use your BSD code, extend it and not distribute the changes |
| 10:10.10 | annma | I don't want commercial close software derived from my code bonsaikitten |
| 10:10.15 | bonsaikitten | whereas GPL forces them to open the changes as soon as they distribute the code |
| 10:10.18 | annma | that's clear then |
| 10:10.19 | scroogie | a good example is the bsd code in windows ;) |
| 10:10.30 | annma | I want GNU then, all the way |
| 10:10.37 | bonsaikitten | annma: so you're ethically inclined towards the GPL |
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| 10:10.40 | scroogie | i remember you could grep one directory inside the windir and find some BSD headers |
| 10:10.44 | annma | for the spirit, not the money |
| 10:10.48 | scroogie | in the network code iirc |
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| 10:11.00 | bonsaikitten | scroogie: yeah, TCP stack for example in win2k/winXP is from FreeBSD |
| 10:11.07 | QuAZ | They both have their advantages, in this case you're probably after the GPL |
| 10:11.12 | annma | bonsaikitten: I am ideologically 100% to GNU |
| 10:11.16 | bonsaikitten | microsoft was able to use their code for free. Not what many people want :) |
| 10:11.17 | Half-Left | Yes GNU is what stallman started, Linux is not the same thing |
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| 10:11.33 | bonsaikitten | annma: GNU is the reality hack to make BSD viable in the real world ;) |
| 10:11.44 | bonsaikitten | Half-Left: and don't call it GNU/Linux please |
| 10:11.47 | bonsaikitten | that is so evil |
| 10:11.47 | annma | aslong as BSD people are sane |
| 10:11.51 | Half-Left | it was way before Linux and BSD |
| 10:11.59 | bonsaikitten | annma: they are sane and real party animals ;) |
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| 10:12.11 | annma | BSD people I met are like stupid kids |
| 10:12.13 | Gigantic | bonsaikitten: Tell that in Debian ;) |
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| 10:12.29 | Half-Left | bonsaikitten: Well it is because it still needs the Linux kernel top work, so they share the name like that |
| 10:12.35 | Half-Left | to* |
| 10:12.47 | bonsaikitten | Gigantic: I insist on MIT (X) / BSD (some tools) / artistic (perl) / GNU (gcc etc) linux then |
| 10:12.51 | annma | personally as long as it's free in general I get along with anyone who also gets along with anyone free |
| 10:13.15 | annma | I don't et along with zealots |
| 10:13.20 | bonsaikitten | autotools need perl, so GNU can't claim to be independent ... ;) but that's a really dangerous path to go down |
| 10:13.25 | Half-Left | annma: I just brought a wireless card and it happen to have opensource driver and linux support |
| 10:13.29 | Half-Left | :) |
| 10:13.34 | pinotree | points to #kde-chat |
| 10:13.36 | Gigantic | lol |
| 10:13.41 | annma | Half-Left: :) |
| 10:13.43 | annma | sorry pinotree |
| 10:13.53 | annma | I can't code pinotree |
| 10:13.58 | annma | so I chat |
| 10:14.02 | Half-Left | hehe |
| 10:14.02 | Gigantic | hands pinotree a bear to keep them distracted for like 5 mins ;) |
| 10:14.11 | pinotree | Gigantic: i don't drink. |
| 10:14.16 | annma | beer |
| 10:14.16 | Gigantic | *a beer a beer! |
| 10:14.23 | annma | I was wondering |
| 10:14.30 | annma | give me one then Gigantic |
| 10:14.45 | annma | it's pre-lunch time here so it's allowed |
| 10:14.59 | Gigantic | hands a cold Spaten to annma |
| 10:15.13 | annma | yeah!!!!!!!! |
| 10:15.15 | annma | thanks |
| 10:16.10 | d1zzy | 8 hours anonsvn downtime and counting |
| 10:16.36 | QuAZ | I'm going to call it GNU/Linux just to irritate people :) |
| 10:16.57 | QuAZ | It totally is, though. I just leave the GNU/ off 'cause I can't be bothered typing, and everything is GNU anyway. |
| 10:17.09 | friedrich| | is there a command line thing to logout/shutdown and such out of kde4? |
| 10:17.49 | Half-Left | d1zzy: Been down all night eh? |
| 10:17.50 | scroogie | dcop probably |
| 10:17.54 | pinotree | dcop ksmserver ksmserver logout 0 0 0 for logout with kde3 |
| 10:18.02 | bonsaikitten | QuAZ: evil person ;) |
| 10:18.09 | d1zzy | Half-Left: is anyone working on this? |
| 10:18.11 | pinotree | similar with qdbus in kde4 |
| 10:18.12 | friedrich| | huh? but I said "kde4", didn't I? :| |
| 10:18.16 | friedrich| | oh, okay |
| 10:18.25 | friedrich| | I don't have qtdbus installed |
| 10:18.30 | annma | d1zzy: did you notify sysadmin? |
| 10:18.32 | pinotree | oh yes, you have |
| 10:18.33 | friedrich| | ah, qdbus |
| 10:18.34 | Half-Left | d1zzy: No I idea, pinotree may know |
| 10:18.45 | Gigantic | echo "omg! it's 4.1.1" ; sleep 28800 && echo "weee, time has come! updating now!" && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && echo "woots!"" |
| 10:18.53 | d1zzy | pinotree: any idea about the anonsvn downtime? |
| 10:18.58 | Half-Left | Maybe not his department :p |
| 10:18.58 | pinotree | d1zzy: no |
| 10:18.59 | QuAZ | bonsaikitten: I am evil, and I'm OK. |
| 10:19.02 | annma | d1zzy: sysadmin at kde dor org |
| 10:19.09 | annma | d1zzy: ask here |
| 10:19.10 | QuAZ | (I work all night and sleep all day) |
| 10:19.12 | friedrich| | "Service ksmserver does not exist" |
| 10:19.19 | pinotree | what about just *being patient*, instead of counting minutes? |
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| 10:19.20 | annma | QuAZ: lol |
| 10:19.28 | Gigantic | QuAZ: u are my hero |
| 10:19.31 | d1zzy | I didn't wanted to flood that email account if many others already written, it's fine if I just know it's a known problem and people are working on it |
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| 10:19.52 | annma | just write here then |
| 10:19.54 | Half-Left | pinotree: He said it was 8 hours :p |
| 10:19.58 | QuAZ | d1zzy: Email floods are how sysadmins know there're problems. They love it really :D |
| 10:20.00 | d1zzy | pinotree: unfortunetly it's about 10 hours now (not minutes) and I can be patient once I know it is a known issue and people are working on it |
| 10:20.19 | annma | d1zzy: make it known and be done with it |
| 10:20.51 | pinotree | d1zzy: will being impatient fix the problem? no. so just calm down, and stop counting minutes. |
| 10:22.40 | d1zzy | making noise may raise eyebrows that otherwise are not and may make the problem known if it wasn't |
| 10:22.55 | d1zzy | somewhat equivalent to writting to that email address which I wanted to avoid in order to reduce the spam |
| 10:23.01 | d1zzy | but I've written there and I will see if I get an answer |
| 10:23.38 | annma | here there's nothing we can do |
| 10:23.50 | annma | and servers unfortunately are not easy to get |
| 10:24.02 | annma | KDE needs more and more admins |
| 10:24.27 | Gigantic | what was the email adress again? |
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| 10:25.00 | d1zzy | sysadmin at kde dto org |
| 10:25.09 | Gigantic | *coff coff |
| 10:25.11 | d1zzy | typo inentional |
| 10:25.25 | pinotree | what about stop flooding sysadmin? |
| 10:25.36 | Gigantic | eh... I was being sarcastic... |
| 10:25.56 | Half-Left | http://radio.kde.org/pub/konqcast/konqcast_mp3.rss |
| 10:25.59 | Half-Left | nice |
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| 10:27.45 | Gigantic | g nite |
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| 10:32.04 | anisfarhana | how to resize the plasma ? |
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| 10:33.37 | kriko | svn: Can't connect to host 'anonsvn.kde.org': Connection refused |
| 10:33.43 | kriko | what's up with svn? |
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| 10:33.52 | annma | it's down |
| 10:34.00 | thinkgnu | o |
| 10:34.03 | kriko | :O |
| 10:34.09 | kriko | no bleeding edge today |
| 10:34.21 | QuAZ | kriko: They're running bleeding edge svn. |
| 10:34.31 | annma | LOL |
| 10:34.41 | QuAZ | Say... is there any way I can open system tray programs with the keyboard? |
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| 10:34.49 | pinotree | no |
| 10:35.38 | lemma | QuAZ: I think you can if the programs themselves provide shortcuts for it |
| 10:35.54 | chris__ | is there any reason i can't contact svn://anonsvn.kde.org? |
| 10:35.57 | QuAZ | Ah, but no all-in-one solution? That's a shame :/ |
| 10:36.04 | lemma | chris__: yes, it's down. |
| 10:36.06 | QuAZ | chris__: Yes. It's b0rked. |
| 10:36.13 | chris__ | thanks |
| 10:36.18 | QuAZ | Anyone wanna put it in the topic? :/ |
| 10:36.18 | chris__ | any alternatives? |
| 10:36.31 | pinotree | yes, being patient and waiting |
| 10:36.45 | chris__ | righto, righto - just checking |
| 10:38.32 | kapamaroo | is there a way to change the "Open Terminal" command from the menu of konqueror? (i want to change it to "konsole --real-transparency") |
| 10:38.52 | kapamaroo | maybe another way for the real-transparency effect? |
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| 10:47.47 | friedrich| | kapamaroo: just an idea.. replace konsole with a bash script (u+x of course) that runs "konqueror.bin --real-transparency" |
| 10:47.58 | friedrich| | and.. $1 |
| 10:48.31 | GNU\colossus | $@, rather |
| 10:48.45 | friedrich| | well, whatever :) |
| 10:49.23 | lemma | kapamaroo, friedrich|: I'm not quite sure but konqueror might use the konsolepart and not /usr/whatever/konsole to start the konsole |
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| 10:49.48 | [ade] | anonsvn -- at least one of them -- has been reset and should be available again |
| 10:50.08 | lemma | [ade]: confirmed |
| 10:50.17 | friedrich| | Oh, I thought he wanted to use "Open terminal" and not the "Embedded terminal" thing |
| 10:50.49 | lemma | friedrich|: oh. in that case it's me who's wrong indeed :) |
| 10:52.59 | kapamaroo | i found a servicemenu konsolehere.desktop, i replaced the command but it doesn't work with the menu "Open Terminal" |
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| 10:53.43 | [ade] | lemma: at which point i get to do the forensics bits of "how come svnserve died?" |
| 10:54.14 | lemma | [ade]: I'd say "have fun" but I won't because I know it's not :) |
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| 11:07.16 | phrearch | hi |
| 11:07.37 | phrearch | i have an nvidia and upgraded to 4.1.1 . the widgets are a bit slow still though |
| 11:07.47 | phrearch | anyone knows how to disable vsync in xorg? |
| 11:08.37 | friedrich| | kapamaroo: mv `which konsole` $(kde-config --prefix)/bin/konsole.bin && echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nkonsole.bin --real-transparency $@' >> $(kde-config --prefix)/bin/konsole && chmod o+x $(kde-config --prefix)/bin/konsole |
| 11:09.59 | lemma | phrearch: not authoritative, but according to what I googled you can append -Vsync to the modelines |
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| 11:14.25 | QuAZ | Hm... the remove buttons in the Konversation "edit network" menu don't seem to have tab stops :( |
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| 11:15.49 | kapamaroo | friedrich|: thanks for this, it works, Anyway i think it would be a good idea to set commands from the Options of konqueror,not only for these that already exist but from new too |
| 11:17.19 | phrearch | ok, thanks lemma |
| 11:17.41 | phrearch | im running kdemod 4.1 now also on my slower laptop, but its way faster cause its ati i guess |
| 11:18.14 | phrearch | the widgets are finally useable |
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| 11:25.12 | lemmaway | phrearch: also see http://techbase.kde.org/User:Lemma/GPU-Performance on how you can improve performance on nvidia a little |
| 11:25.43 | phrearch | thanks. i already see big improvement with the initialpixmapplacement option |
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| 11:32.53 | d1zzy | o.O anonsvn is back |
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| 11:34.34 | bonsaikitten | yey |
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| 11:34.44 | bonsaikitten | radiates some happiness around |
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| 11:36.23 | phrearch | hey |
| 11:36.35 | Half-Left | time to see what goodies Amarok2 has in trunk then :) |
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| 11:52.54 | Qu4Z | ... Is there a way I can run two monitors on one X screen, and yet have KDE only maximise onto one monitor :/ (and center dialogs on one, etc)? |
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| 11:54.03 | Half-Left | Wow, after listening to Richard Stallman, freesoftware and rights you give aways , he's spot on |
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| 11:54.22 | friedrich| | kapamaroo: great :) I didn't test it. |
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| 11:54.44 | Qu4Z | Half-Left: If a little harsh at times. |
| 11:54.50 | Half-Left | True |
| 11:55.07 | Half-Left | But he believes in what he does, nothing wrong it that |
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| 11:58.08 | anisfarhana | hello again |
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| 11:58.26 | phrearch | how do i autostart in kde4? |
| 11:58.45 | anisfarhana | after blackout , i switch on my pc back..logging to kde and i found the application launcher at plasma gone , why ? |
| 11:58.56 | phrearch | i made ~/.kde/Autostart/mybashfile and chmodded +x |
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| 11:59.55 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 12:00.00 | rindolf | I cannot connect to MSN using Kopete. |
| 12:00.04 | rindolf | I could yesterday. |
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| 12:00.14 | rindolf | I'm using KDE-3.5.10 on Mandriva Cooker. |
| 12:00.29 | ale_ | msn is working like crap |
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| 12:01.20 | Half-Left | working here |
| 12:02.11 | kriko | rindolf: msn is down |
| 12:02.20 | kriko | it doesn't even work from windows live msn |
| 12:02.44 | ale_ | some accounts works, some dosent |
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| 12:03.51 | rindolf | kriko: ah. |
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| 12:10.57 | GillesMM | hi how to call kdescreensaver by script please? |
| 12:11.11 | GillesMM | what is the kdescreesaver name ? |
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| 12:11.37 | phrearch | hey |
| 12:11.54 | phrearch | im trying to autostart the nvidia settings, but im not sure where to put it |
| 12:12.12 | chris__ | anyone know the reason why I get a 'qt subapplication' window whenever I log in for trunk? |
| 12:12.30 | phrearch | ive tried: /usr/share/autostart , ~/.kde/Autostart, ~/.kde/share/autostart , but none starts this shellscript. It has x-permission |
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| 12:19.07 | gkiagia | phrearch: in kde4 ? |
| 12:19.10 | LostTrack | how to easily update adblocking in konqueror? Is there a server to get updates from? |
| 12:19.15 | phrearch | gkiagia, yes |
| 12:19.26 | gkiagia | phrearch: systemsettings->advanced->autostart ;) |
| 12:19.51 | phrearch | aah |
| 12:19.54 | phrearch | lol. thanks |
| 12:20.02 | phrearch | i didnt even noticed that tab yet |
| 12:20.52 | phrearch | lemme check :) |
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| 12:23.36 | phrearch | solved. thanks |
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| 12:45.39 | sebas | GillesMM: what's scriptshell? (otherwise, there's probably a dbus call) |
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| 12:51.52 | knithx | Can anyone post me a link to the "Blue Curl" wallpaper in KDE4.1??? |
| 12:53.42 | jazka | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/KDE/kdebase/workspace/wallpapers/Blue_Curl/contents/images/ |
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| 12:55.35 | knithx | Thank you |
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| 13:08.50 | shadewind | is there any possibility of getting fake transparency in Konsole? |
| 13:09.20 | thiago | not in KDE 4 |
| 13:09.26 | thiago | KDE 4 is "true or nothing" |
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| 13:09.49 | shadewind | thiago: any other terminal who can do it? |
| 13:09.54 | thiago | konsole from KDE 3 |
| 13:10.07 | shadewind | oh |
| 13:10.24 | shadewind | too bad the fglrx drives suck ass... |
| 13:11.15 | Gentle_ | thiago: reminds me, wasn't there a proposal around to tell Konsole to be hardware transparent to the desktop window? Since, some people rather want to see their wallpaper in the background instead of that pile of text editors ;) |
| 13:11.29 | thiago | I don't know |
| 13:11.32 | thiago | I like the text editors |
| 13:11.39 | thiago | sometimes that's exactly what I want |
| 13:12.03 | Qu4Z | Yeah, I just discovered --real-transparency, then promptly decided I didn't like it :/ |
| 13:12.22 | Gentle_ | yes, it's great for things like reading documentation in the background or something, but sometimes it's "in the way" |
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| 13:12.39 | Gentle_ | Qu4Z: KDE4 doesn't have the fake thing anymore at all |
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| 13:12.53 | Qu4Z | KDE doesn't have many things I know and love. |
| 13:13.06 | Qu4Z | Er... KDE4 |
| 13:13.10 | Qu4Z | KDE3.5 does :) |
| 13:13.15 | aleksanteri | heh. |
| 13:13.42 | annma | be p.a.t.i.e.n.t |
| 13:13.57 | lemma | annma: what does the i. stand for? |
| 13:13.59 | Qu4Z | I am. I'm patient. Just mentioning it's not ready for me just yet :) |
| 13:14.08 | Gentle_ | well, the real transparency is great in itself, it just lacks the option to tell kwin which windows to not show when under another window |
| 13:14.12 | annma | lol _lemma |
| 13:14.20 | shadewind | okay... Shared Memory did not work out very well with desktop effects |
| 13:14.20 | _lemma | :-) |
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| 13:16.28 | Gentle_ | hm, now that I think about it, I wouldn't even be able to find a decent name for a window that is see-through when under something transparent ;) |
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| 13:28.41 | olskolirc | how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please? what path is it in? |
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| 13:59.02 | Mebibyte | Hi. |
| 13:59.13 | Mebibyte | Why konsole crashes when I run it? |
| 13:59.26 | Mebibyte | (KDE 4 @ FreeBSD) |
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| 14:01.39 | Mebibyte | no onw will answer? |
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| 14:03.27 | Mebibyte | It just opens a window and then crashes... |
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| 14:05.16 | marco | is possible to show hidden files with folder view? |
| 14:05.56 | rindolf | Mebibyte: don't know. |
| 14:06.18 | rindolf | Mebibyte: have you tried using the FBSD equivalent of strace? |
| 14:09.21 | olskolirc | how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please? what path is it in? |
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| 14:10.08 | phrearch | hi again |
| 14:10.40 | phrearch | any issues with kde4, catalyst drivers and desktop effects? |
| 14:10.46 | pinotree | olskolirc: ? |
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| 14:13.32 | Mebibyte | anyone knows why konsole crashes on FreeBSD? |
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| 14:17.32 | cb400f | Mebibyte: probably better to ask in some freebsd channel.. or you could try to run xterm and run konsole from there and see if you get some interesting output |
| 14:18.06 | cb400f | .. it's definitely not a general kde issue :-) |
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| 14:19.29 | phrearch | hm, i get all stripes with desktop effects on |
| 14:19.44 | phrearch | any idea how to disable it with no view? |
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| 14:21.22 | espen | phrearch: delete ~/.kde4 ? |
| 14:21.55 | cb400f | phrearch: maybe try to set Enabled=false in [compositing] section in ~/.kde(4)/share/config/kwinrc |
| 14:22.01 | olskolirc | how do I find that default white panel bar that comes with kde please? what path is it in? |
| 14:22.07 | cb400f | .. or just delete kwinrc |
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| 14:22.12 | phrearch | got it cb400f. thanks |
| 14:23.12 | phrearch | does compositing work with fglrx? |
| 14:23.44 | cb400f | olskolirc: you mean that old kde3 thing? :-) ... I think location of those varies from distro to distro |
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| 14:24.28 | cb400f | phrearch: .. if you have aiglx/composite extension enabled in xorg.conf it should, or (god forbid) if you have xgl |
| 14:24.32 | marco | is there an hotkey for swithching between the ZUI containment? |
| 14:25.04 | phrearch | hm, aiglx and fglrx dont play nice |
| 14:25.08 | olskolirc | I have gutsy |
| 14:25.16 | olskolirc | the new kde thing cb400f |
| 14:25.24 | olskolirc | its a white gradient cb |
| 14:25.27 | olskolirc | cb400f, |
| 14:27.03 | [Kame2] | aiglx + fglrx worked for me a long time... but since the self-test in kwin (trunk) it doesn't aktivate anymore |
| 14:27.46 | cb400f | hm.. I'm not sure what you want then.. thought you were looking for the default kde3 kicker background, but maybe look for the package that has oxygen plasma theme.. then dpkg -L <package name> should give you a list of the files if that's what you want.. |
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| 14:40.42 | anisfarhana | hello again |
| 14:40.47 | anisfarhana | dolphin is part of kde ? |
| 14:41.46 | sandsmark | yes |
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| 14:42.33 | anisfarhana | sandsmark: ok , can you tell me how to do auto-mount and edit windows partition under /etc/mtab ? |
| 14:43.04 | sandsmark | anisfarhana: ask your distro |
| 14:43.18 | sandsmark | in my distro it magically works, when I enabled dbus and hal |
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| 14:43.47 | anisfarhana | sandsmark: my distro magically works too , but everytime i reboot my pc , i have to insert manually root passwd to access them |
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| 14:44.06 | sandsmark | anisfarhana: ask in #fedora |
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| 14:44.25 | anisfarhana | sandsmark: ok sir thanks |
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| 14:45.10 | mfwitten_ | Where do I get automoc4; I'm building from source |
| 14:45.27 | mfwitten_ | kdebase? |
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| 14:46.56 | pinotree | trunk/kdesupport/automoc |
| 14:47.36 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: So it must be gotten from SVN? |
| 14:47.49 | mfwitten_ | (with svn, that is) |
| 14:47.58 | pinotree | iirc there should be tarballs on ftp |
| 14:48.13 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: For kdesupport? |
| 14:48.20 | pinotree | for automoc |
| 14:48.51 | mfwitten_ | There's no mention here: http://www.kde.org/download/ |
| 14:49.09 | pinotree | which distro do you have? |
| 14:49.16 | mfwitten_ | Mac OS X ;-) |
| 14:49.25 | mfwitten_ | I want source |
| 14:49.34 | Mebibyte | cb400f: thanks... |
| 14:49.50 | sandsmark | ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/stable/automoc4/ is empty |
| 14:50.00 | Jucato | sandsmark: unstable |
| 14:50.05 | sandsmark | oh, my bad |
| 14:50.10 | mfwitten_ | Jucato: so, svn is basically required |
| 14:50.25 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: ftp://ftp.kde.org/pub/kde/unstable/automoc4/0.9.84/automoc4-0.9.84.tar.bz2 |
| 14:50.26 | Jucato | mfwitten_: dunno in the case of OS X |
| 14:50.40 | pinotree | mfwitten_: if you build trunk, yes |
| 14:51.04 | mfwitten_ | Jucato, pinotree: The problem is that the official release 4.1.1 depends on stuff that is not released yet. |
| 14:51.20 | pinotree | it is released. |
| 14:51.22 | Jucato | hm? |
| 14:51.41 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: Thanks for the link |
| 14:52.00 | mfwitten_ | pinotree, Jucato: Where can I get it then, other than with sandsmark's link? |
| 14:52.19 | pinotree | where else would you expect, then? |
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| 14:52.23 | mfwitten_ | http://www.kde.org/download/ |
| 14:52.24 | Jucato | usually from your distro. but in the case of OS X, like I said, I don't know. |
| 14:52.27 | pinotree | don't you see "ftp.kde.org"? |
| 14:52.31 | Jucato | but distros would be packaging that version |
| 14:53.00 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: I see *unstable* and no mention of automoc anywhere on http://www.kde.org/download/ or from any reputable source when searching with google |
| 14:53.04 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: "support" means external applications |
| 14:53.28 | pinotree | mfwitten_: it is a *support* package, it is *not* kde |
| 14:53.40 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: kdesupport doesn't really have a home it would seem (official website) |
| 14:53.42 | pinotree | and your *unstable* means exactly nothing. |
| 14:53.50 | pinotree | mfwitten_: kdesupport is not a module |
| 14:54.03 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: I'm just looking for some semblance of officialness |
| 14:54.05 | Jucato | mfwitten_: "kdesupport" are libraries that are not exclusively part of KDE or released *by* KDE, but which some parts of KDE uses |
| 14:54.20 | pinotree | mfwitten_: you have it. |
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| 14:54.46 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: Thank you! I'm just saying there should be a link or at least a page about that stuff |
| 14:55.04 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: Instead I've had to bother you guys about where to get it. |
| 14:55.05 | pinotree | there won't be. |
| 14:55.10 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: Why not? |
| 14:55.11 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: if you build KDE yourself, you are supposed to be able to handle that by yourself =) |
| 14:55.13 | Jucato | there is. *when* you need build KDE from source. |
| 14:55.35 | Jucato | otherwise it is up to distributions to package those. not KDE. |
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| 14:55.53 | Jucato | or in your case, the #kde-mac team |
| 14:55.57 | Nigromante | hello |
| 14:56.05 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: Look man, I've compiled everything for GNOME and gimp, inkscape, and a hundred other things. |
| 14:56.12 | mfwitten_ | on MAC OS X |
| 14:56.27 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: and you managed to find automoc4 too, didn't you? =) |
| 14:56.58 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: I'm not trying to pick a fight here. I'm just saying it feels flaky, this automoc business |
| 14:57.04 | sandsmark | why? |
| 14:57.08 | sandsmark | it's not an end-user tool |
| 14:57.17 | mfwitten_ | There's no clear reference as to wher eto get it. |
| 14:57.27 | Jucato | http://www.kde.org/download/ -> "There are instructions available for building the source code. " which links to http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build |
| 14:57.38 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: there is in the techbase |
| 14:57.40 | sandsmark | where it belongs |
| 14:58.01 | mfwitten_ | Jucato: Come on now. Don't treat me like an idiot. I surely didn't find it there. |
| 14:59.07 | scroogie | its under required packages |
| 14:59.10 | mfwitten_ | Jucato, pinotree, sandsmark: I don't understand why you guys are so defensive. Obviously there some one (namely, me), who has gotten stuck on this silly issue. I'm simply saying that finding a dependency shouldn't be so silly. |
| 14:59.33 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: I'm not defensive, I'm just busy (as are both pinotree and Jucato, I would guess) |
| 14:59.42 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: and finding dependencies isn't hard |
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| 14:59.56 | sandsmark | I knew where to find it, didn't I? =) |
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| 15:00.09 | mfwitten_ | http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=automoc4&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8 |
| 15:00.11 | mfwitten_ | Nothing |
| 15:00.14 | scroogie | mfwitten: if you follow the build instructions you either install it from the distribution or compile it with kdesupport |
| 15:00.16 | mfwitten_ | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Mac_OS_X |
| 15:00.17 | mfwitten_ | nothing |
| 15:00.20 | Jucato | I take that nowadays, trying to point out where to go or why something is like that is considered being "defensive" |
| 15:00.50 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: go ask in #kde-mac, why it isn't on that wiki page |
| 15:01.16 | pinotree | mfwitten_: in case you didn't notice (as you seem so smart), there is http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Mac_OS_X |
| 15:01.25 | mfwitten_ | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/Prerequisites#kdesupport |
| 15:01.29 | mfwitten_ | that says use svn basically |
| 15:01.33 | pinotree | and if that page lacks information, then you should complain to the kde-mac team |
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| 15:01.51 | lilltiger | Jucato: yes, what you should do, is to figure out where he/she lives, travel to his/her place and do it for them. And dont forget to bring cookies and cake! |
| 15:01.56 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: I think you didn't notice (as you seem so smart) |
| 15:02.03 | mfwitten_ | pinotree: I already posted that link. jackass |
| 15:02.06 | sandsmark | (pino is smart, and has op) |
| 15:02.23 | sandsmark | lilltiger: cookies *and* cake? |
| 15:02.23 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: That's why I said he seems smart. |
| 15:02.32 | mfwitten_ | sandsmark: I take it he finds me smart too. |
| 15:02.33 | scroogie | hey hey hey |
| 15:02.36 | scroogie | cool down everyone |
| 15:02.47 | mfwitten_ | scroogie: Hey, I didn't come here lookin' to fight. |
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| 15:02.56 | lilltiger | sandsmark: yhee, people are so damanding now adays.. "You got cake! I wanted cookies!!!!!" |
| 15:02.57 | scroogie | ok, its only listed under troubleshooting on the MacOS page |
| 15:03.26 | Jucato | mfwitten_: no, but when people explain things to you, you accuse them of being defensive or treating you like an idiot |
| 15:03.46 | Aw0L | what are the palm syncing options for 4.1? |
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| 15:04.02 | mfwitten_ | I don't care anymore. |
| 15:04.05 | scroogie | actually, i think that kdesupport releases are in discussion right now |
| 15:04.07 | scroogie | iirc |
| 15:04.09 | mfwitten_ | You're right. I'm wrong. |
| 15:04.11 | mfwitten_ | I love you. |
| 15:04.11 | Jucato | Aw0L: KPilot, but I'm not sure if the KDE 4 port is already done |
| 15:04.15 | scroogie | so the situation might change soon |
| 15:04.30 | sandsmark | mfwitten_: <3 you too <3 =) |
| 15:04.41 | Aw0L | Jucato, thanks, I don't think it is yet.. |
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| 15:20.16 | phrearch | hey |
| 15:20.34 | phrearch | konsole wont start, saying it cant find a dbus session server |
| 15:20.39 | phrearch | dbus is running though :S |
| 15:20.40 | sandsmark | start dbus |
| 15:21.10 | phrearch | its running |
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| 15:22.10 | gkiagia | dbus-launch konsole (as a workaround...) |
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| 15:39.28 | syllogism | kriko: filezilla is what I use |
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| 15:44.31 | gkiagia | dolphin/konqueror runs on windows ;) |
| 15:45.31 | [Kame2] | for kdebase and kdegraphics (from trunk) in the end of make install i get: make: *** [install] Segmentation fault |
| 15:45.35 | kriko | gkiagia: I'm trying now - 411 or stable? |
| 15:46.07 | jazka | well, 4.1.1 is stable? |
| 15:46.10 | gkiagia | kriko: ?? 4.1.1 is the stable version |
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| 15:48.45 | shadewind | how do I change plasma theme? |
| 15:49.17 | gkiagia | shadewind: right click->desktop settings |
| 15:49.17 | vtlmks | when I want to add a widget to the desktop ((KDE 4.2 unstable) but also 4.1.1) and I select "install new widgets" and select "from internet" I just get two widgets, both from the plasmoids/scripts page of www.kde-look.org, not the binary ones, any solution? or have I messed up some config |
| 15:49.19 | Jucato | shadewind: right-click on the desktop -> Desktop Settings -> |
| 15:49.59 | anisfarhana | what software to take screenshot in kde ? |
| 15:50.08 | gkiagia | ksnapshot |
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| 15:50.20 | anisfarhana | got it! |
| 15:51.25 | shadewind | oh nice :) |
| 15:52.07 | pinotree | vtlmks: you cannot install binary stuff via newstuff |
| 15:52.31 | vtlmks | pinotree: ah, didn't know that. well, thats the explanation then :) Thanks a lot |
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| 15:55.44 | shadewind | is there any way to set the gtk colors manually after kde has set them? |
| 15:55.58 | shadewind | because something look quite ugly with the black background... |
| 15:56.26 | shadewind | firefox... for example |
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| 15:56.55 | kriko | shadewind: ugly gtk control center? |
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| 15:57.34 | rethus | can i overload the web-css with a konqueror-css? |
| 15:57.59 | shadewind | kriko: ? |
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| 15:59.27 | kriko | shadewind: install gnome control center and set colors there |
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| 16:17.25 | bschindler | Hi - I'm trying to add a custom application keyboard but fail to do so... is there a way? |
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| 16:22.59 | tstaerk | bschindler, you are trying to add a keyboard? |
| 16:23.39 | bschindler | tstaerk: I found that for konsole there is already an entry which kindof solves my problem. I just want to add a shortcut so if I press <shortcut>, application y gets launched |
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| 16:36.57 | shadewind | how do I change my default WM to compiz instead of kwin? |
| 16:37.23 | Bulwinkle | under konqueror I used to be able to view pics in the window as I scrolled through them, this doesn't seem to work in Dolphin (or do I have my settings screwed up?) |
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| 16:37.29 | Zarin | System settings -> Advanced -> Session manager if you are using 4.1 shadewind |
| 16:38.07 | Zarin | Default applications if you are using trunk |
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| 16:39.22 | shadewind | Zarin: i'm apparently using trunk |
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| 16:39.25 | shadewind | thanks |
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| 16:46.33 | frybye | I am normally running kubuntu-kde4.1 (nobody answers in that # now...) and for some reason the typhoon wireless keyboard has stopped working under kde4.1 but still works on same pc when running kde3 - I dont know how to fault-trace this sort of problem under linux/kde - any tips..? |
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| 16:47.25 | annma | you installed nothing new? |
| 16:47.25 | frybye | the wireless mouse running via the same usb-rx-tx device is still working - and uder kde3 the mouse and the keyboard work - just with kde4.1 no keyboard.. |
| 16:47.38 | frybye | no.. |
| 16:47.40 | annma | it worked you said |
| 16:48.06 | frybye | my dear lady wife was using the pc when i was at work today and the keyboard just stopped working... |
| 16:48.15 | frybye | upt to then it was no problem... |
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| 16:48.45 | nikolavp | hmm is there a way to put a window next to another |
| 16:49.07 | nikolavp | and sort of glue the two on the window manager |
| 16:49.09 | frybye | in system-settings/keyboard I only find stuff about repeating key time settings etc.. |
| 16:49.20 | annma | try a new user |
| 16:49.22 | nikolavp | so when I move one of them i move the whole |
| 16:49.46 | frybye | oh jeez I have loads of stuff installed under this account... |
| 16:50.17 | nikolavp | frybye: try if it works with another account |
| 16:50.22 | nikolavp | don't the delete that :d |
| 16:50.29 | frybye | is there a way to re-install the keyboard driver...? |
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| 16:50.40 | annma | that's distro stuff, not kde |
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| 16:50.48 | frybye | i c - I will have to set up a new user.. be back in a bit... |
| 16:50.49 | annma | if it works on kde3 then your driver is there |
| 16:51.00 | annma | and say hello to the wife |
| 16:51.01 | frybye | annma - but it works on the same pc when running kde3... |
| 16:51.07 | frybye | thanks... |
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| 16:51.21 | annma | is also a wife frybye |
| 16:51.45 | frybye | greetings back from magdalena.... |
| 16:51.56 | annma | :) |
| 16:52.18 | parapente | is there a way to disable the dragon-part for konqueror so I could use kaffeine plugin to view video clips in webpages? |
| 16:52.41 | parapente | dragon-part crashes when I try to view quicktime clips |
| 16:52.43 | frybye | so what would be another thing to look for - If i could just find where the settings for different keyboard are in the kde4.1 gui I wouild be a bit further in this thing...??? |
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| 16:52.45 | parapente | :-( |
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| 16:54.01 | parapente | frybye, you want to change the keyboard layout in kde4? |
| 16:54.04 | frybye | is there some place where one can switch between different types of keyboard - to just try going to some other setting and back to this one or similar.. |
| 16:54.19 | frybye | parap.. no i just want to get the keyboard working again... |
| 16:54.34 | annma | isn't that in System Settings frybye |
| 16:54.48 | annma | I never changed keyboard :( |
| 16:55.08 | frybye | in system settings ...| keyboard i have only found settinsg for the repeat time when holding a key pressed and so on... |
| 16:55.23 | frybye | not for selecting this or that keyboard...? |
| 16:55.39 | annma | do you have 2 at the same time? |
| 16:55.45 | frybye | smbdy know a terminal window command to re-set keyboard drivers etc..? |
| 16:56.11 | frybye | annma - no I just wanted to "jog" the system into re-setting the keyboard driver.. |
| 16:56.14 | parapente | in locale settings & languages? (sorry it's my translation from what I see in greek :-P) |
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| 16:56.44 | frybye | para - ok - yes there is that of course - but hmmm not sure if that is at all relevent... |
| 16:56.58 | annma | frybye: KDE has no driver |
| 16:56.59 | mfwitten_ | Just point people to http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/KDE4/LFS |
| 16:57.04 | annma | just unplug and replug maybe |
| 16:57.04 | frybye | i just want to restart - reset the keyboard... |
| 16:57.39 | frybye | annma - did that right at the start.. also cold start of pc etc etc.. nothing has helped. (except switching to kde3 - which is where I am now of course..) |
| 16:57.45 | frybye | on the -same- pc.... |
| 16:57.56 | frybye | with same hardware/keyboard etc etc... |
| 16:58.07 | frybye | same o.system in fact... |
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| 16:58.20 | frybye | kde's just -sit on the - os or...? |
| 16:58.26 | annma | yes |
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| 16:58.58 | annma | if it works on kde3 and not on kde4 I find this weird |
| 16:59.14 | annma | what does your distro control center say? |
| 16:59.15 | parapente | it doesn't work at all? |
| 16:59.21 | frybye | dont get me wrong - but - why the heck does it not work in kde4.1 and does work in kde3 if there is no special stuff/drivers in kde.. hmmm odd.... |
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| 16:59.42 | frybye | para . it works when running kde3 - not when running kde4.1 |
| 17:00.06 | frybye | but the wireless mouse part of that thing works - just the keyboard part dont... |
| 17:00.07 | annma | just try a new user to find out frybye |
| 17:00.23 | frybye | ok I wil hvae to set one up and be back... hang on... |
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| 17:03.27 | parapente | by the way I think that after making changes in the keyboard layout and pressing apply it reruns setxkbmap so it may as well get the keyboard to work correctly |
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| 17:08.29 | frybye | re: annma - works with a new user!! |
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| 17:10.08 | frybye | annma: you see this stuff.. is there lag just now?? the keyboard works in kde4.1 with a new user...!!! so what to do now.. under the old user...?? |
| 17:10.44 | frybye | - where all my stuff is installed... |
| 17:12.32 | Chani | frybye: find whatever settings broke hte keyboard and remove them? |
| 17:12.39 | Chani | has not read backscroll |
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| 17:14.33 | Chani | frybye: if you don't know which file is the problem, you could at worst just go by trial-and-error.... copy settings to the new user until you break it |
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| 17:16.25 | giganto | hey guys, just wondering where I can setup my programs to autostart |
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| 17:16.46 | giganto | Im trying to follow this: After configuring your system for use with the network manager, to autostart the network manager applet, go to settings --> Autostarted Applications then add, "nm-applet --sm-disable &", This should start up the network manager applet on startup, the "--sm-disable" option is used to prevent multiple instances of the nm-applet, you should only need it if multiple instances are running when y |
| 17:16.46 | giganto | ou startup. |
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| 17:18.25 | Chani | wow, am I the only person awake here right now? |
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| 17:18.40 | frybye | Chani - sorry i was out of the room for a moment... |
| 17:19.12 | frybye | but chani - we had changed -nothing- just in the middle of some web browsing the thing stopped working... |
| 17:19.32 | frybye | and does work with kde3 and does work with a new user in kde4.1 |
| 17:19.34 | Chani | weird. |
| 17:19.49 | Chani | er, was composite on? |
| 17:19.59 | Chani | but, it stays broken when you log back in? |
| 17:20.09 | frybye | hmmm I am gonna try it again now.. with the back and foward with a new user etc.. perhaps something has "fixed itself...!" heheh |
| 17:20.20 | frybye | hang on - brb |
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| 17:22.31 | giganto | is someone able to help me with this bit of wiki ? |
| 17:22.33 | giganto | After configuring your system for use with the network manager, to autostart the network manager applet, go to settings --> Autostarted Applications then add, "nm-applet --sm-disable &", This should start up the network manager applet on startup, the "--sm-disable" option is used to prevent multiple instances of the nm-applet, you should only need it if multiple instances are running when you startup. |
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| 17:24.09 | frybye | re: still dosent work in kde4.1 with the orig. user.. |
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| 17:24.38 | frybye | i am beat now - i will just have to use the new user for kde4.1 and gradually get my stuff set up in that account I guess... |
| 17:25.01 | giganto | someone able to help me out?? |
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| 17:25.23 | giganto | After configuring your system for use with the network manager, to autostart the network manager applet, go to settings --> Autostarted Applications then add, "nm-applet --sm-disable &", This should start up the network manager applet on startup, the "--sm-disable" option is used to prevent multiple instances of the nm-applet, you should only need it if multiple instances are running when you startup. |
| 17:25.28 | giganto | how do i go about doing this ?? |
| 17:25.35 | frybye | bye for now - enuf computer for one day... hehehe |
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| 17:33.21 | LukasT1 | hello, do you know how do i set dimension of the konsole in kde 4.1? |
| 17:33.29 | LukasT1 | i can't find it .. |
| 17:33.36 | LukasT1 | using Fedora 9 and KDE4.1.0 |
| 17:34.01 | bschindler | erm... how do I move a plasmoid around? |
| 17:34.05 | bschindler | on the desktop I mean |
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| 17:35.23 | friedrich| | giganto: just do echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nnm-applet --disable &' >> ~/.kde/Autostart/start-network-manager.sh && chmod u+x ~/.kde/Autostart/start-network-manager.sh |
| 17:36.48 | friedrich| | ups |
| 17:37.10 | friedrich| | giganto: correction: "echo -e '#!/bin/sh\nnm-applet --sm-disable &' >> ~/.kde/Autostart/start-network-manager.sh && chmod u+x ~/.kde/Autostart/start-network-manager.sh |
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| 17:37.24 | friedrich| | " |
| 17:38.43 | giganto | friedrich|, umm, can u split it up so that i understand? |
| 17:38.55 | giganto | friedrich|, am i supposed to copy that whole line and put into command? |
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| 17:39.17 | friedrich| | giganto: you are supposed to copy that line and paste it in a terminal of your choice, then hit enter. |
| 17:39.49 | friedrich| | giganto: basically it puts an autostart entry and makes it executable |
| 17:40.18 | giganto | friedrich|, /home/giganto/.kde/Autostart/start-network-manager.sh: No such file or directory |
| 17:41.06 | friedrich| | umm. |
| 17:41.19 | friedrich| | what does "ls -l .kde/Autostart" tell you? |
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| 17:42.15 | giganto | cache-Kaede share socket-Kaede tmp-Kaede |
| 17:42.22 | giganto | friedrich|, i believe u wanted .kde4 ?? |
| 17:42.33 | giganto | cos there's a folder called Autostart in .kde4 |
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| 17:43.12 | friedrich| | Well, if you are using kde4 - then you might as well change all referrences to ".kde" to ".kde4", yes |
| 17:43.30 | giganto | friedrich|, ah thanks it worked |
| 17:43.42 | giganto | friedrich|, so now i just log off and log back in? |
| 17:43.47 | giganto | friedrich|, or do a restart ? |
| 17:44.02 | friedrich| | logging out/in should be enough. Tell me if it works. |
| 17:44.12 | giganto | friedrich|, will do |
| 17:44.16 | giganto | friedrich|, brb |
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| 17:47.35 | giganto | friedrich|, hmm ... doesn't seem to have worked |
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| 17:48.05 | tdi_k | giganto: you can also create a .desktop file (similar to windows ini/inf files) instead of a script. You need a section name "[Desktop Entry]" and keys "Exec=/usr/bin/application_to_launch", "Name=An application", "Terminal=false" |
| 17:48.18 | giganto | got an error instead tho, KLauncher could not be reached via D-Bus. Error when calling start_service_by_desktop_path: empty |
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| 17:48.39 | giganto | tdi_k, bit too advanced for me lol |
| 17:48.45 | tdi_k | giganto: create a file .kde/Autostart/nm-applet.desktop |
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| 17:49.01 | tdi_k | with the quoted things on each line |
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| 17:49.51 | tdi_k | e.g first line : [Desktop Entry] second line: Name=network manager applet third line: Exec=/usr/bin/nm-applet |
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| 17:50.14 | giganto | tdi_k, are u telling me to modify a file? or create a new one? |
| 17:51.34 | tdi_k | giganto: create a new one I suppose (in $HOME/.kde/Autostart or $HOME/.kde4/Autostart) . If the file exists, you wouldn't be asking here :-) |
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| 17:52.51 | giganto_ | sry got dced |
| 17:52.56 | giganto_ | tdi_k, sry got dced |
| 17:53.45 | giganto_ | tdi_k, what am i supposed to do again ... im very poor with linux at the moment |
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| 17:55.05 | giganto_ | brb re login |
| 17:55.12 | giganto_ | made changes to the file |
| 17:55.16 | giganto_ | added 'exit 0' |
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| 18:02.32 | tdi_k | Does anybody know what konqueror and probably gwenview use to display GIF files ? |
| 18:04.41 | annma | isn't it qt gif lib? |
| 18:04.53 | Chani | probably. |
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| 18:06.05 | JeffATL | what utils are there to browse windows networks? |
| 18:06.41 | pinotree | konqueror, smb4k |
| 18:07.54 | JeffATL | pinotree: oh, ok - now i see the "system" vert tab in konqueror |
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| 18:11.02 | Mebibyte | ok |
| 18:11.08 | Mebibyte | my KDE after a reset it works... |
| 18:11.08 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:11.23 | smurfslover | i can't find the activities example screenshot anymore |
| 18:11.49 | tdi_k | anima: 10x, I'l try with qt only app ... |
| 18:11.59 | Mebibyte | Hey... KDE 4 it's really good.... |
| 18:12.00 | Mebibyte | :) |
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| 18:14.10 | annma | nice that you say so, very considerate Mebibyte |
| 18:14.48 | Chani | :) |
| 18:14.52 | Mebibyte | Yeah... those KDE devels are really good... |
| 18:15.15 | Mebibyte | It's been proved that, i.e., KDE's konqueror KHTML in a way rocks as a HTTP engine... |
| 18:15.58 | Mebibyte | I've been in lots of flamewars GNOME vs KDE... |
| 18:16.09 | Mebibyte | but I've been using KDE since KDE 1 and I never liked GNOME, lol... |
| 18:16.21 | annma | there are no flamewars anymore Mebibyte |
| 18:16.33 | annma | we're doing a meeting together next year |
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| 18:16.46 | annma | as you're saying, it's a matter of taste |
| 18:16.56 | Mebibyte | don't know about this in the present moment... |
| 18:16.56 | giganto | tdi_k, |
| 18:17.03 | giganto | tdi_k, still not working |
| 18:17.03 | Mebibyte | now I'm trying to install Compiz Fusion |
| 18:17.06 | Mebibyte | to make it better |
| 18:17.06 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:17.21 | Mebibyte | convincing my gf that bsd can be beautiful |
| 18:17.22 | Mebibyte | hahahahaha |
| 18:17.43 | annma | lol ;) |
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| 18:18.10 | shadewind | when changing the color scheme in KDE the default background color and text color also changes which make things look like ass |
| 18:18.29 | Mebibyte | but well annma she liked KDE 4 more than KDE3 lol |
| 18:18.42 | Mebibyte | it loads "more cool" |
| 18:18.43 | Mebibyte | hahahaha |
| 18:18.44 | shadewind | found it |
| 18:18.55 | luke-jr | Mebibyte: btw, KHTML does not do any HTTP |
| 18:19.14 | luke-jr | Mebibyte: and Compiz is a GNOME thing |
| 18:19.33 | Mebibyte | what I mean about KHTML is the webpage rendering... :) |
| 18:19.40 | Mebibyte | Don't really know the details :) |
| 18:20.00 | Chani | shadewind: find a theme that doesn't look like ass to you then? ;) or pick your own colours |
| 18:20.00 | Mebibyte | and well luke-jr... would it work with KDE? |
| 18:20.01 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:20.20 | shadewind | Chani: i mean in webpages... |
| 18:20.25 | luke-jr | Mebibyte: it would no longer be KDE |
| 18:20.26 | Chani | ohhh, that |
| 18:20.37 | shadewind | Chani: but I found an option in FF |
| 18:20.42 | Mebibyte | Oh no? |
| 18:20.43 | shadewind | Chani: called "Use system colors" |
| 18:20.50 | Mebibyte | What would happen if I install KDE? |
| 18:20.58 | Mebibyte | I mean, Compiz Fusion... |
| 18:20.58 | luke-jr | Mebibyte: you can't run KWin and Compiz at the same time |
| 18:21.07 | Chani | shadewind: dark-background themes don't work too well in konquero. it would be nice to find a solution tothat. |
| 18:21.11 | Mebibyte | oh yes? |
| 18:21.16 | Mebibyte | Hm... didn't knew... |
| 18:21.28 | shadewind | Chani: well, now it works with firefox anyway |
| 18:22.49 | Mebibyte | But luke-jr what I tried to say is that I'm very impressed with all KDE work... :) |
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| 18:25.57 | Mebibyte | but... btw.. why I've found bad comments on KDE4 about memory usage? |
| 18:26.13 | bonsaikitten | Mebibyte: rumors |
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| 18:26.47 | Mebibyte | On the first run it works a bit slow on the five 5 minutes but I would suppose it's doing a work on getting everything to work during that moments |
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| 18:26.59 | Mebibyte | but afaik by my computer now it works a bit better... |
| 18:27.04 | Mebibyte | and even second run loads faster... |
| 18:27.13 | bonsaikitten | that's all the services starting up and building databases / caches |
| 18:27.23 | bonsaikitten | nepomuk I think is the "worst" offender |
| 18:27.25 | Mebibyte | Yeah, that's what I tried to say.... |
| 18:27.34 | Mebibyte | nepomuk? |
| 18:27.36 | Mebibyte | What is that? |
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| 18:29.23 | Mebibyte | birunko: what's nepomuk? |
| 18:29.30 | Mebibyte | *bonsaikitten |
| 18:29.55 | bonsaikitten | pixie dust and magic ;) |
| 18:30.12 | Mebibyte | huh? |
| 18:30.15 | Mebibyte | What's that? |
| 18:30.15 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:30.34 | bonsaikitten | didn't you know? |
| 18:30.50 | Mebibyte | fx on the desktop? |
| 18:30.50 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:31.19 | bonsaikitten | Qt is forged by trolls, kde components are produced by elves ... that's why together it is an unstoppable force against evil |
| 18:31.22 | Mebibyte | Well what I've seen are lots of changes since 3.x |
| 18:31.23 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:31.38 | Mebibyte | and now you can put things in the desktop like dictionaries |
| 18:31.39 | Mebibyte | hahahahaha |
| 18:31.49 | thiago_home | bonsaikitten: we also use the ELF file format and the DWARF debugging format |
| 18:31.55 | thiago_home | (I'm not kidding) |
| 18:31.58 | bonsaikitten | indeed |
| 18:32.03 | bonsaikitten | lots of arcane magic |
| 18:32.11 | thiago_home | and we have good friends the gnomes |
| 18:32.14 | Mebibyte | where is the configuration thing of this beast? |
| 18:32.18 | bonsaikitten | will it be enough to stop the forces of MordorSoft? |
| 18:32.22 | Mebibyte | Just to change resolution and configuration... lol |
| 18:32.44 | thiago_home | bonsaikitten: you can't pull Tolkien |
| 18:32.59 | bonsaikitten | but I have a tolkien ring network here :( |
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| 18:33.11 | thiago_home | bonsaikitten: trolls in Tolkien's world are evil and turn to stone if exposed to sunlight |
| 18:33.31 | bonsaikitten | I think that's a translation error, should be silverlight |
| 18:33.46 | thiago_home | (maybe that's why we live in Oslo where it's dark half the year, but I digress) |
| 18:34.27 | thiago_home | and gnomes in Tolkien's world are the old name for the Nordor, the High Elves of the second tribe, most of whom came back to Middle Earth |
| 18:34.30 | thiago_home | Noldor |
| 18:34.52 | bonsaikitten | you learn something new every day :) |
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| 18:35.40 | Mebibyte | hey as I see now window effects exists! |
| 18:35.40 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:35.59 | thiago_home | the "gnomish" language that Tolkien invented in his early works was completely transformed and transferred to the elves that stayed. It became Sindarin. |
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| 18:36.42 | Viper550 | I just found a meaning for the K in KDE |
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| 18:38.46 | Viper550 | kollider desktop enviroment. |
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| 18:39.10 | tstaerk_ | actually it is for kool |
| 18:39.27 | Viper550 | no, as in the large hardon collider uses it :3 |
| 18:39.35 | Viper550 | whoops, hadron collider |
| 18:39.40 | milliams | actually it's now just for 'K' :) |
| 18:39.50 | milliams | Viper550: The LHK |
| 18:40.06 | bonsaikitten | Viper550: I think I saw a movie about hardon colissions ;) |
| 18:40.19 | Viper550 | on PPV? lol |
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| 18:44.50 | luke-jr | hum, KDE doesn't like filenames containing newlines much |
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| 18:46.52 | drantin | o_O |
| 18:47.07 | junkDawgie | the "Six Billion Dollar Gamble" or something like that, bonsaikitten? |
| 18:47.13 | junkDawgie | me too |
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| 18:51.36 | cga | hi, is there a program to convert wav to mp3 for kde4??? (not audacity or similar) |
| 18:51.36 | BraveSpear | Does anyone know how to copy the kmenu settings from one computer to another? |
| 18:51.40 | cga | please thanks |
| 18:52.11 | cga | BraveSpear: that could be a good feature request if it doesn't exist yet |
| 18:52.19 | cga | file a "bug" |
| 18:52.26 | cga | *eventually |
| 18:53.34 | Mebibyte | what do I have to configure to have those desktop effects? |
| 18:53.35 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:53.45 | Mebibyte | I activated them and then desktop fails... |
| 18:53.56 | Mebibyte | I have to remove .kde4, .config and so to get it back again... :) |
| 18:54.09 | Mebibyte | (I suppose it would be something about X11 configuration...) |
| 18:54.20 | Chani | Mebibyte: it should';ve reverted if it messed up. odd |
| 18:54.26 | smurfslover | Mebibyte: i also have that when i enable certain plugins |
| 18:54.30 | junkDawgie | hope it works for you Mebibyte |
| 18:54.40 | smurfslover | i just open up konsole and replace the window manager |
| 18:54.44 | Chani | anyways, you probably do have to do x11 stuff. it'll depend on your video driver too |
| 18:54.55 | smurfslover | then your desktop will act normally again |
| 18:54.58 | Mebibyte | dunno I tried with the Frames Per Second plugin but desktop got to act stupid... showing the windows as planes |
| 18:55.07 | BraveSpear | cga: There has got to be a way to do it now.. I think it is the file ~/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu. I am trying to create a custom KMenu and place it in /etc/skel/.config/menus/ dir on a livecd that I have remastered. Not going as easily as it should, though. |
| 18:55.08 | smurfslover | after disabling 3d you can restart kwin |
| 18:55.09 | Mebibyte | and then I activated some others in second try like window explosion on close |
| 18:55.22 | Mebibyte | but it got to be all black but seein the shape of the K bar |
| 18:55.33 | BraveSpear | !kmenu |
| 18:55.47 | Mebibyte | smurfslover: the xorg driver for ATI cards... |
| 18:55.53 | Mebibyte | there's no ati driver for FreeBSD afaik |
| 18:55.55 | Mebibyte | :) |
| 18:55.59 | Mebibyte | wants a nvidia lol |
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| 18:56.06 | smurfslover | nvidia 173.14 on a geforce fx 5200 |
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| 18:56.20 | smurfslover | i think my card is gettings a little outdated |
| 18:56.36 | smurfslover | the cube works perfectly i must say |
| 18:57.04 | Mebibyte | well... are those effects video-consuming things? |
| 18:57.04 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:57.09 | luke-jr | nVidia ftl |
| 18:57.27 | Mebibyte | The one that built this machine (gf's brother) said it has a good one as he remembers... |
| 18:57.36 | Mebibyte | not really outdated I suppose because that guy plays games... |
| 18:57.37 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:58.01 | Mebibyte | also played a fluid Need For Speed on windows... but dunno what card it has... |
| 18:58.11 | smurfslover | nvidia's beta drivers are getting better and better |
| 18:58.14 | tstaerk_ | smurfslover, how did you get the cube? |
| 18:58.29 | Mebibyte | drm0: <ATI Radeon AP 9600> on vgapci0 |
| 18:58.34 | Mebibyte | is that card a good one? |
| 18:58.34 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 18:58.35 | smurfslover | i don't know |
| 18:58.40 | Mebibyte | doesn't care about graphic devices lol |
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| 18:59.08 | Mebibyte | but... as I've seen now that should be a PCI Express card, isn't it? |
| 18:59.12 | smurfslover | it's just there in the effects in kde 4.1.0 on pardus linux |
| 18:59.17 | Mebibyte | and that's a X11 configuration thing... |
| 18:59.31 | Mebibyte | but I never took care about those details so I don't know :) |
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| 18:59.40 | smurfslover | don't think i have it in kubuntu's kde 4.1.1 |
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| 19:00.21 | cga | BraveSpear: sure you can reuse the file but having a feature like "import / export you menu" will be awesome. |
| 19:00.34 | cga | *your |
| 19:01.42 | Mebibyte | effects will work if I tweak the xorg.conf file to set properly my graphic card? lol |
| 19:02.13 | BraveSpear | cga: copying the file from one pc to another just isn't working right. Getting very irritated with KDE now. |
| 19:02.22 | smurfslover | tstaerk: http://img378.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kde4cubeqk5.png |
| 19:03.09 | cga | BraveSpear: there must be another file where it stores some more info then... |
| 19:04.00 | Mebibyte | is here a channel about Xorg? lol |
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| 19:04.48 | tstaerk_ | smurfslover, you are from Antwerp? |
| 19:05.04 | smurfslover | yes |
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| 19:05.33 | Mebibyte | I think I would need that glx mod on the xorg, would it be? |
| 19:05.36 | BraveSpear | cga: I've tried finding it by changing the kmenu and then running find / -name "*menu*" -mtime -1 and the only folder/file that come up are the ones I listed above (-mtime -1 is file modified within the last hour) |
| 19:06.16 | smurfslover | Mebibyte: are you using EXA for rendering? |
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| 19:06.47 | Mebibyte | don't know... |
| 19:06.56 | Mebibyte | never seen those details about graphic things lol... |
| 19:06.59 | Mebibyte | a simple man |
| 19:07.00 | Mebibyte | hahahahahaha |
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| 19:07.10 | smurfslover | Mebibyte: which distro? |
| 19:07.37 | Mebibyte | FreeBSD 7 :) |
| 19:08.05 | Mebibyte | As I suppose if the graphicc ard is identified as vgapci0 it would be a PCI Express card instead of an AGP... |
| 19:08.18 | Mebibyte | I think there are options about that in the Xorg configuration file... |
| 19:08.30 | smurfslover | so you'll need to edit xorg.conf manually in order to use EXA fro rendering |
| 19:08.41 | smurfslover | bbl gonna have a walk with the dog |
| 19:08.43 | smurfslover | cu |
| 19:08.46 | Mebibyte | aha... |
| 19:08.48 | Mebibyte | ok |
| 19:08.52 | Mebibyte | where I can find info about that? |
| 19:09.03 | Mebibyte | and also... what is EXA? thought was called GLX or whatever.... |
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| 19:09.45 | bonsaikitten | Mebibyte: totally different thing |
| 19:09.46 | smurfslover | google it |
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| 19:10.47 | smurfslover | http://techbase.kde.org/Projects/Plasma/FAQ#Folder_View_and_other_plasmoids_look_badly_rendered_with_an_ATI_video_card_and_the_open_source_radeon_driver. |
| 19:10.55 | Mebibyte | yeah :) |
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| 19:19.42 | hyper_ch | Jucato: you're a mod on ubuntuforums? |
| 19:20.44 | Gigadelic_IIDX | anyone uses konversation? |
| 19:21.12 | hyper_ch | yes |
| 19:21.24 | Gigadelic_IIDX | i need a hand |
| 19:21.42 | hyper_ch | you should already have two :) three hands will look odd |
| 19:21.47 | Gigadelic_IIDX | someone is DCC, query, and CTCPing me can i block them all |
| 19:21.55 | Gigadelic_IIDX | cuz im getting spammed atm |
| 19:22.25 | hyper_ch | spammed? |
| 19:22.36 | hyper_ch | and what do you want to do? |
| 19:22.46 | Gigadelic_IIDX | .... i just said it |
| 19:23.04 | hyper_ch | why shouldn't you be able to block them? |
| 19:23.15 | Gigadelic_IIDX | i dont know how |
| 19:24.05 | hyper_ch | Gigadelic_IIDX: open /etc/deny.hosts and make entries like: ALL: 72.29.77.144 |
| 19:24.27 | hyper_ch | or maybe ignoring them in konversation also help: /ignore USERNAME |
| 19:24.52 | Gigadelic_IIDX | cant i just turn them off in konversation |
| 19:25.10 | hyper_ch | maybe |
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| 19:25.44 | Gigadelic_IIDX | well im in the Configure window in conversation and im at Behavior > Ignore |
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| 19:25.56 | Gigadelic_IIDX | i tried doing it here but ti geeked |
| 19:26.18 | Mebibyte | OK |
| 19:26.25 | Mebibyte | Tweaking a bit goes more faster this KDE4 lol |
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| 19:31.44 | shadewind | how can I change the KDE theme? |
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| 19:31.54 | aseigo | shadewind: kde3 or kde4? |
| 19:31.59 | shadewind | kde4 |
| 19:32.25 | aseigo | shadewind: in systemsettings in the desktop area |
| 19:32.40 | aseigo | shadewind: plasma's theme is done by right clicking on the desktop and selecting Desktop Settings |
| 19:34.04 | shadewind | aseigo: lol... i meant KDM theme... |
| 19:34.07 | shadewind | stupid me |
| 19:34.23 | sandsmark | kdesu kcmclient kdm, or something =) |
| 19:34.30 | sandsmark | *kchmshell, even |
| 19:35.18 | bgmiki | yea resolve plasma playground in KDE 4.1.1 |
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| 19:35.22 | sandsmark | "kdesu kcmshell4 kdm" should do it |
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| 19:38.57 | sandsmark | aseigo: you spammer? |
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| 19:39.25 | aseigo | sandsmark: ha. no, paste gone wrong |
| 19:39.30 | sandsmark | =p |
| 19:39.43 | sandsmark | that's what they all say |
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| 19:40.58 | kdepepo | aseigo, thanks for auto hide panel patch... feels a bit wired with the animation (would prefer instant show/hide), but its better than wasting space like it did before :) |
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| 19:46.26 | xjunior | hi all. I just upgraded from 4.1.0 to 4.1.1. Now KDM doesn't start kde automatically, and after logon I got a xterm where I have to manually type "startkde" to get everything working |
| 19:46.34 | xjunior | s/logon/login |
| 19:46.41 | xjunior | can somebody please help me? |
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| 19:47.26 | kdepepo | did you use your distributions packages, xjunior |
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| 19:48.47 | bonsaikitten | so, if I had a weird cmake segfault while trying to build webkit-kpart, who would be able to help me debugger it? |
| 19:49.05 | sandsmark | the cmake people |
| 19:49.10 | xjunior | kdepepo: yes. Gentoo kde-testing overlay |
| 19:49.15 | bonsaikitten | right |
| 19:49.26 | sandsmark | bonsaikitten: is there a #cmake channel? |
| 19:49.28 | Mebibyte | a little bit of jitter but it works, bonsaikitten :) |
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| 19:49.35 | Mebibyte | have tweaked a bit xorg server |
| 19:49.44 | bonsaikitten | sandsmark: there is |
| 19:49.50 | Mebibyte | load dbe, glx, added a BusID and so |
| 19:49.55 | Mebibyte | but effects continue not to work |
| 19:49.55 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 19:50.02 | kdepepo | xjunior, oh, gentoo... :) well, maybe ask in #gentoo about how to set up your graphical login. |
| 19:50.30 | xjunior | kdepepo: we have #gentoo-kde, where nobody talks to nobody :) |
| 19:51.51 | Mebibyte | kdepepo: edit /etc/ttys |
| 19:52.00 | sandsmark | xjunior: well, in my distro, we put kdm in /etc/inittab |
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| 19:52.02 | Mebibyte | and add a graphical tty that runs kdm |
| 19:52.10 | sandsmark | on runlevel 5 |
| 19:52.15 | Mebibyte | or that one /etc/inittab |
| 19:52.22 | Mebibyte | like the rest of terms in the machine |
| 19:52.33 | Mebibyte | what to say... tty9, for example |
| 19:52.40 | Mebibyte | so it will load kdm and the x server with it... |
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| 19:53.02 | Mebibyte | and after bootstrapping the operating system will go to X11 and prompt you for an user... |
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| 19:54.22 | kdepepo | erm, he does get X11, but only failsave mode, not KDE :) |
| 19:55.10 | sandsmark | xjunior: change session you start with kdm |
| 19:55.52 | kdepepo | probably the KDE 4 session isn't registered with /usr/share/xsessions |
| 19:56.10 | Mebibyte | you have to add a file configuration in the kdm configuration directory |
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| 19:56.17 | Mebibyte | to allow it to load KDE4 :) |
| 19:56.27 | Mebibyte | when will we have kdm4? ^^ |
| 19:56.46 | sandsmark | Mebibyte: I have kdm from kde4? |
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| 19:57.11 | xjunior | sandsmark: doesn't work |
| 19:57.30 | Mebibyte | being buggy? |
| 19:57.42 | xjunior | Mebibyte: kdepepo: how do I add KDE then? |
| 19:57.57 | Mebibyte | xjunior: use kdm3 |
| 19:58.01 | Mebibyte | let me give you an url... |
| 19:58.06 | Mebibyte | it's on the bsd kde 4 wiki |
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| 19:58.58 | Mebibyte | xjunior: http://wiki.freebsd.org/KDE4/Install |
| 19:59.03 | Mebibyte | you may modify some urls... |
| 19:59.40 | Mebibyte | /usr/local/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ |
| 19:59.41 | Mebibyte | that dir |
| 19:59.43 | Mebibyte | may vary |
| 19:59.49 | Mebibyte | you may have /usr/share/apps or whatever |
| 20:00.01 | Mebibyte | BSD follows a strict convention about where to locate packages and ports |
| 20:00.12 | Mebibyte | and I don't know if Linux (just in case) also uses it... |
| 20:00.30 | Mebibyte | but xjunior you've got there what to put on a kde4.desktop file... |
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| 20:02.39 | xjunior | Mebibyte: the kde session seems to be ok...... lemme post it somewhere to you |
| 20:02.55 | Mebibyte | to me? |
| 20:02.58 | Mebibyte | What do you mean? |
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| 20:03.26 | Mebibyte | I don't really care about kdm... I just always can do startx command and previously configured .xinitrc it will work! :) |
| 20:03.42 | Mebibyte | if you post something gimme an url! :D |
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| 20:05.25 | xjunior | Mebibyte: are you using kdm 4 or 3.5? |
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| 20:05.52 | zx2c4 | hey there |
| 20:05.56 | zx2c4 | has anyone else noticed that |
| 20:06.05 | zx2c4 | when using the autostart system settings panel |
| 20:06.08 | skyphyr | hi all - lamest kde4 question ever - how do I restart the panel to defaults? (or shift it to the bottom) |
| 20:06.09 | zx2c4 | and adding apps to it, |
| 20:06.11 | zx2c4 | they do not autostart |
| 20:06.21 | zx2c4 | has anyone else noticed this bizarre behavior? |
| 20:06.25 | Mebibyte | xjunior: I'm right now not using kdm :) |
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| 20:07.48 | xjunior | Mebibyte: as you can see, there are two configurations for KDE http://paste.milk-it.net/938 |
| 20:08.00 | Mebibyte | let me read... |
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| 20:09.45 | xjunior | Mebibyte: that seems to be right..... I can't understand, really |
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| 20:10.04 | smurfslover | skyphyr: you can delete plasmarc and/or plasma-appletsrc in $kdehome/share/config |
| 20:10.46 | Mebibyte | xjunior: I don't really know :) |
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| 20:12.10 | xjunior | Mebibyte: well... thanks |
| 20:12.15 | smurfslover | Mebibyte, xjunior, you can copy the kde3 entry and rename it to kde4 |
| 20:12.26 | Mebibyte | yup smurfslover |
| 20:12.31 | smurfslover | then you have to change 3 entry's in the file |
| 20:12.33 | Mebibyte | change the path to startkde4, I would think :) |
| 20:12.55 | xjunior | smurfslover: kde 3? I think I haven't |
| 20:13.46 | bonsaikitten | oh, small question - why do the 4.1.6x snapshots not have a kde-l10n package? |
| 20:14.07 | pinotree | because they are development snapshot, no point of shipping translations |
| 20:14.18 | smurfslover | http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#Launching_KDE_4_sessions |
| 20:14.46 | dasy2k1 | does anyone know if konversation can play sounds? |
| 20:14.52 | bonsaikitten | pinotree: ok :) |
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| 20:15.44 | smurfslover | xjunior, Mebibyte: http://techbase.kde.org/Getting_Started/Set_up_KDE_4_for_development#Launching_KDE_4_sessions |
| 20:15.56 | Mebibyte | where can I find kde i18n things in FreeBSD? lol |
| 20:16.28 | Mebibyte | I'm ok, smurfslover, but thanks :) |
| 20:16.48 | smurfslover | yw |
| 20:16.53 | xjunior | anybody knows how to change default encoding from ISO-8859-1 to UTF-8 in KDE? I don't know why is KDE using this encoding if all the system uses unicode |
| 20:17.11 | skyphyr | thanks smurfslover |
| 20:17.32 | smurfslover | skyphyr: np |
| 20:18.15 | xjunior | smurfslover: it's talking about nested sessions |
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| 20:18.31 | smurfslover | read down |
| 20:18.52 | smurfslover | there's also explanation for solitary session through kdm |
| 20:19.18 | zx2c4 | xjunior: thats a good question... cuz i get the ktextecnoding errors on startup of apps |
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| 20:40.54 | Mebibyte | is there any i18 package on KDE4? |
| 20:41.23 | bonsaikitten | yes, called l10n |
| 20:41.24 | bonsaikitten | :) |
| 20:42.24 | Mebibyte | l10n? |
| 20:42.54 | Mebibyte | ah.. what's the difference? |
| 20:43.42 | Mebibyte | installing l10n-es |
| 20:43.43 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 20:44.59 | bonsaikitten | internationalization vs. localization ... basically same thing as far as users are affected :) |
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| 20:46.08 | Mebibyte | huh? |
| 20:46.12 | Mebibyte | I have no idea lol |
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| 20:49.01 | MinceR | not really -- for instance, i need some localization but no internationalization :> |
| 20:49.53 | Shambuku | kde is sluggish but the bling is nice |
| 20:50.40 | bonsaikitten | Shambuku: nvidia graphics card? ;) |
| 20:50.46 | Shambuku | yes |
| 20:50.59 | hyper_ch | newest drivers? |
| 20:51.24 | hyper_ch | Shambuku: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=118088 |
| 20:51.34 | Shambuku | looks |
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| 20:56.57 | Config_ | Hi - how can I wipe the session cache and make sure I get a new, empty session when I start kde the next time? |
| 20:57.16 | Config_ | some kde4 apps sneaked into my kde3, and now plasma gets started which screws basically everything |
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| 21:05.33 | vjm | hmm, after upgrading to kde 4.1.1 I lost all sound...any thought how to bring them back? |
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| 21:08.31 | gkiagia | vjm: did you check the sound preferences in system settings ? |
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| 21:10.19 | vjm | sure, phonon sees both xine and gstreamer backends. There's no difference which one is the preferred. |
| 21:10.47 | vjm | sound as such is still working since alsa speaker test does produce sound |
| 21:10.47 | gkiagia | vjm: does a non-kde player like mplayer work? |
| 21:11.06 | gkiagia | hm, so alsa works |
| 21:11.20 | vjm | yep |
| 21:11.30 | gkiagia | but dragon player doesn't |
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| 21:12.38 | gkiagia | vjm: have you actually tried with dragon player? to make the question better, which sounds don't play? |
| 21:13.41 | vjm | no sound from dragon or smplayer |
| 21:13.46 | vjm | mplayer... |
| 21:14.27 | gkiagia | if mplayer doesn't work, then this is a wierd alsa problem I guess... |
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| 21:15.02 | gkiagia | actually, it has happened to me, but it got fixed after a while |
| 21:15.04 | vjm | hmm...weird...there are some error messages in mplayer log... |
| 21:15.31 | vjm | [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: confmisc.c:768:(parse_card) cannot find card '0' |
| 21:15.32 | vjm | [AO_ALSA] alsa-lib: conf.c:3513:(_snd_config_evaluate) function snd_func_card_driver returned error: Permission denied |
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| 21:15.48 | gkiagia | heh |
| 21:15.58 | gkiagia | are you in the audio group? |
| 21:16.10 | gkiagia | (well, definitely not a kde problem...) |
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| 21:17.30 | vjm | well, I'm now =) That wasn't a problem before though... |
| 21:17.45 | vjm | seems so... |
| 21:18.06 | vjm | quess I'll have to bug people at #suse =) Thanks. |
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| 21:21.07 | vjm | gkiagia: ok, adding myself to audio group worked...bah, should've known to check that myself...thanks for the help |
| 21:22.19 | ReedWood | set the editor in kate (kde4) to "static line brake" and type until the end of a line. The word gets brocken but the curson is set to the beginning of the line. |
| 21:22.34 | ReedWood | S.o. sees this error? |
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| 21:31.24 | Mebibyte | would gnash see youtube? |
| 21:31.25 | Mebibyte | lol |
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| 21:43.07 | MAXXO | hello, somebody here who can answer a question regarding cmake? |
| 21:44.01 | Mebibyte | is kopete working? |
| 21:44.04 | Mebibyte | kopete of kde4 |
| 21:44.57 | Mebibyte | I say Online, but it doesn't connect... |
| 21:46.20 | Shambuku | yes cmake is garbage' |
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| 21:46.33 | Mebibyte | Shambuku: lol |
| 21:46.38 | Mebibyte | Do Kopete works? |
| 21:46.51 | Mebibyte | (KDE4) |
| 21:47.38 | GraveDigger | yes |
| 21:47.43 | GraveDigger | it does |
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| 21:48.28 | Mebibyte | Mine not... |
| 21:48.36 | Mebibyte | I say connect... but keeps without connecting lol |
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| 21:49.46 | [Kame2] | which protocol? |
| 21:49.53 | zengle | I changed window decorations to system++ in kde4.1, and now the menu I used to change the decoration is no longer there, nor does there appear to be a button to help |
| 21:49.56 | Mebibyte | MSN |
| 21:50.05 | zengle | how can I change back to plastique, or something more attractive? |
| 21:50.18 | [Kame2] | does work for me. but it needs a few seconds to connect |
| 21:50.25 | zengle | (kubuntu 8.04) |
| 21:50.30 | Shambuku | oh geeze look at all the noobs ! aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 21:50.40 | Mebibyte | ah ok... it has been about 2 hours trying to connect |
| 21:50.41 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 21:51.05 | Shambuku | zengle click around and learn |
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| 21:51.07 | [Kame2] | thats a little bit to few... |
| 21:51.15 | Mebibyte | but I keep saying "Online" everytime |
| 21:51.16 | Mebibyte | lol |
| 21:51.34 | zengle | not only is there no right click option anywhere, there is no window decoration in the "appearance and themes" in the system config thing |
| 21:51.48 | Shambuku | thatsa bug update |
| 21:51.55 | Shambuku | update ! |
| 21:51.56 | zengle | in the .kde/share/config/kdeglobals cfg file, it appears to be set to keramic |
| 21:52.04 | zengle | kk |
| 21:52.24 | Mebibyte | nah [Kame2] have restarted kopete but continues not to work |
| 21:52.54 | [Kame2] | then i can't help you. sorry. |
| 21:53.04 | Mebibyte | Ohh :( |
| 21:53.19 | [Kame2] | have to go to bed now. good night |
| 21:53.19 | Shambuku | for kopete update ! |
| 21:53.24 | Shambuku | update! |
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| 21:53.53 | Mebibyte | ok gn! |
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| 21:56.56 | zengle | what is the name of the subsystem that draws and controlls window decoration? |
| 21:57.12 | GraveDigger | kwin |
| 21:57.24 | zengle | thanks. |
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| 22:04.39 | TeLLuS | I tried to send a mail (smtp) with kmail 1.10.1 in KDE4.1.1 on Kubuntu intrepid but when sending it is not even connecting to the mailserver and only display "Sending failed:" and the smtp://.. url.. Any recommended fix? |
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| 22:12.38 | gkiagia | TeLLuS: check your smtp settings :) |
| 22:12.59 | Mebibyte | nah |
| 22:13.02 | Mebibyte | kopete doesn't work |
| 22:13.22 | phreaker | i think it kinda works but pidgin has more options |
| 22:13.22 | octox2 | can i run superkaramba stuff in plasma >? |
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| 22:16.53 | drivamgr2008Spri | evening all. |
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| 22:17.59 | drivamgr2008Spri | i wonder if i may pick your brains for a while... i have just discovered a screensaver i would seriously love to install, but its a windows exe file. Is there any framework for converting a windows screensaver to a .kss at all? |
| 22:18.16 | luke-jr | WINE maybe |
| 22:19.14 | drivamgr2008Spri | wine won't do it. i want to avoid wine as much as possible anyhoo, and try ang get it to work as a .kss (Kscreensaver) if possible |
| 22:19.16 | luke-jr | but the screensaver itself should be a .SCR file |
| 22:19.27 | luke-jr | drivamgr2008Spri: a Windows screen saver is just a program |
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| 22:19.30 | luke-jr | like any other program |
| 22:19.32 | _lemma | drivamgr2008Spri: it won't work without emulating the windows api layer. |
| 22:19.46 | luke-jr | s/emulating/implementing/ |
| 22:19.53 | drivamgr2008Spri | so i need wine to make it work? |
| 22:19.54 | _lemma | luke-jr: :) |
| 22:20.04 | luke-jr | _lemma: is .kss a normal app? |
| 22:20.07 | luke-jr | drivamgr2008Spri: yes |
| 22:20.12 | _lemma | luke-jr: sorry, no idea |
| 22:20.44 | _lemma | drivamgr2008Spri: it's not certain wine will be able to run it. and if it is you'll still have to run it as a x11 screensaver which might/might not be easy |
| 22:21.27 | drivamgr2008Spri | _lemma: ok, i will give it a shot, wine is previewing it for me now, so i might get away with it |
| 22:21.44 | _lemma | nice! good luck! |
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| 22:21.49 | luke-jr | KSS seems like SCR |
| 22:21.59 | luke-jr | so you might just need a thin layer between them |
| 22:22.09 | drivamgr2008Spri | we'll see how it goes. |
| 22:22.14 | drivamgr2008Spri | i may be back |
| 22:22.22 | luke-jr | drivamgr2008Spri: why leave? |
| 22:22.33 | luke-jr | I might write the layer for you |
| 22:22.33 | luke-jr | :þ |
| 22:22.35 | BabelO_ | hi, lot of people there :) |
| 22:22.46 | drivamgr2008Spri | just miniaturising the xchat so i can work on winecfg for a sec |
| 22:23.35 | BabelO_ | anyboody can tell me how can i force the default font of all kde3 app running under kde4 ? |
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| 22:25.39 | _lemma | BabelO_: just while running the kde4 desktop or generally? |
| 22:26.47 | BabelO_ | _lemma: hi, i ve an eeepc running suse with 4.1, i set all font in 4.1 to size 7... but all kde3 app still keep the default size to 10 |
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| 22:29.28 | BabelO_ | _lemma: i set qt-config to 7 for qt4 and qt3 but still same after reboot |
| 22:29.32 | _lemma | BabelO_: it might depend on your distribution but you can try running kde3's font-settings by typing "kcmshell fonts" on the commandline |
| 22:29.49 | BabelO_ | _lemma: thanks, let me try |
| 22:30.23 | BabelO_ | _lemma: perfect :) thanks |
| 22:31.14 | BabelO_ | _lemma: no i need to found what kpowersave call to go to suspend :) |
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| 22:32.07 | _lemma | BabelO_: you're welcome. sorry, I can't help you with kpowersave as I don't know much about it and mine doesn't work currently |
| 22:33.05 | BabelO_ | _lemma: mine only display things and switch power... i got s2ram work, but kpowersave seem to use standard /sys/power/state feature |
| 22:33.30 | BabelO_ | _lemma: one more question and i stop with question |
| 22:34.02 | octox2 | where does kde4 get installed to ? |
| 22:34.06 | BabelO_ | _lemma: i start kbluetooth by hand, now on my standard user when i click on bluetooth icon, it say protocol not allowed |
| 22:34.31 | BabelO_ | octox2: depend of your distrib |
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| 22:34.44 | _lemma | BabelO_: sorry, not my field either :/ |
| 22:35.16 | BabelO_ | _lemma: anyway thanks, i go to develop my own tray icon, for the eeepc device to power on / off :) |
| 22:35.21 | BabelO_ | thanks again |
| 22:35.26 | octox2 | BabelO_: im in suse, im trying to install a plasmoid and i am suppossed to pass the kde installation dir to cmake |
| 22:35.45 | _lemma | BabelO_: you're welcome. you could make that tray icon a plasma applet as well :) |
| 22:36.15 | _lemma | octox2: kde4-config --prefix |
| 22:36.19 | BabelO_ | octox2: it is in standard path /usr/include for kde4 |
| 22:36.27 | BabelO_ | or that :) |
| 22:37.05 | BabelO_ | _lemma: i don't know much about plasmoid |
| 22:37.17 | BabelO_ | _lemma: i m only a qtopia developper and kernel |
| 22:37.20 | octox2 | mine say /usr |
| 22:37.30 | _lemma | BabelO_: I just toyed around with it for the first time today. and it seems pretty simple |
| 22:38.01 | _lemma | BabelO_: just have a look at existing plasmoids. I started by looking at the trashcan one. it's just two small files |
| 22:38.02 | BabelO_ | octox2: that's it for the base |
| 22:38.09 | BabelO_ | octox2: so just add include |
| 22:38.23 | _lemma | BabelO_: and it makes your icons/buttons look sexy |
| 22:38.31 | octox2 | ok, ill see how it works thanks |
| 22:38.44 | BabelO_ | _lemma: ok i ll look at it |
| 22:41.12 | BabelO_ | _lemma: btw, i try to install a addon plasmoid from internet, it does not works :( |
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| 22:42.49 | _lemma | BabelO_: I tried installing lancelot but didn't succeed. did you install it using the buttons in the "add widgets" dialog or by compiling it yourself? |
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| 22:43.45 | BabelO_ | _lemma: i click on add internet widget and select crystal, then install, button toogle to uninstall. that's all |
| 22:44.33 | _lemma | BabelO_: I think that doesn't work currently though I'm not sure if that's plasma's or the provider's fault. |
| 22:44.40 | _lemma | BabelO_: I think it's just not quite there yet |
| 22:45.00 | aseigo | BabelO_: c++ widgets don't work via that. |
| 22:45.00 | BabelO_ | _lemma: ok, then maybe by hand i can copy the file |
| 22:45.10 | BabelO_ | aseigo: ok |
| 22:45.13 | aseigo | BabelO_: you need to compile those manually; we're working on the server feed |
| 22:45.39 | BabelO_ | aseigo: ok then i look for sources , thanks |
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| 22:53.28 | octox2 | when i try to run the plasmoid, by clicking the .desktop file it says the desktop entry of type Service is unknown ? |
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| 22:56.02 | _lemma | octox2: I don't think it's supposed to work like that. you should properly install it and either use the plasmoidviewer or the "Add Widget" dialog to access it |
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| 23:00.24 | BabelO_ | godd night, and thanks a lot |
| 23:00.31 | BabelO_ | s/godd/good/ |
| 23:00.49 | BabelO_ | ~lart apt |
| 23:00.49 | apt | flings poo at babelo_ |
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| 23:36.12 | vjoe | with all the features and stuff |
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| 23:52.11 | cael | can anyone help me how to solve this: No Soprano Database backend available. Please check your installation |
| 23:52.30 | pinotree | how did you install soprano? |
| 23:53.29 | cael | I emerged kde-4.1.1 completely |
| 23:53.53 | cael | I can run sopranod manually and it gives me no error messages |
| 23:54.19 | pinotree | then please ask in #gentoo, as they should make you compile the various backends |
| 23:55.06 | bonsaikitten | #gentoo-kde better |
| 23:55.18 | cael | can you give me a name of an example backend? |
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