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| 00:01.02 | mhall | thanks for the tips guys |
| 00:01.11 | mhall | i'm going to go see about cleaning out my metadata |
| 00:04.46 | jrick | will KDE4 in /trunk let you change the right click functions on the desktop yet? I like having my (3.5 style) kmenu pop up on the desktop on right click (*box style) |
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| 00:51.18 | randomsel | is there a known issue with the current qt-copy from svn? |
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| 00:51.55 | pinotree | no |
| 00:52.05 | pinotree | what's the problem? |
| 00:52.07 | xoqa | well that answered my question ;P |
| 00:52.12 | randomsel | g++ -c -include .pch/debug-shared/QtXmlPatterns -pipe -g -g -fvisibility=hidden -fvisibility-inlines-hidden -Wall -W -D_REENTRANT -fPIC -DQT_SHARED -DQT_BUILD_XMLPATTERNS_LIB -DQT_NO_USING_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_CAST_TO_ASCII -DQT_ASCII_CAST_WARNINGS -DQT3_SUPPORT -DQT_MOC_COMPAT -DQT_NETWORK_LIB -DQT_CORE_LIB -D_LARGEFILE64_SOURCE -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -I../../mkspecs/linux-g++ -I. -I../../include/QtCore -I../../include/QtCore -I../../include/QtNe |
| 00:52.12 | randomsel | twork -I../../include/QtNetwork -I../../include -I../../include/QtXmlPatterns -I.rcc/debug-shared -Iacceltree -Idata -Iapi -Ienvironment -Iexpr -Ifunctions -Iiterators -Ijanitors -Iparser -Iqobjectmodel -Itype -Iutils -I../../tools/xmlpatterns -I.moc/debug-shared -I.uic/debug-shared -o .obj/debug-shared/qacceltreeresourceloader.o acceltree/qacceltreeresourceloader.cpp |
| 00:52.13 | randomsel | In file included from acceltree/qacceltreebuilder_p.h:68, |
| 00:52.15 | randomsel | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.17 | randomsel | utils/qpatternistlocale_p.h:213:2: error: #error "Patternist uses exceptions and cannot be built without." |
| 00:52.19 | randomsel | In file included from utils/qxpathhelper_p.h:59, |
| 00:52.19 | pinotree | err, pleasebin |
| 00:52.21 | randomsel | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:52.23 | randomsel | utils/qpatternistlocale_p.h:213:2: error: #error "Patternist uses exceptions and cannot be built without." |
| 00:52.25 | randomsel | oops, sorry |
| 00:52.29 | randomsel | my bad |
| 00:52.50 | xoqa | is there a crashes plugin that restores konqeuror tabs, like the one stated on dot.kde.org, because i can't find one |
| 00:53.00 | pinotree | yes |
| 00:53.16 | xoqa | wherefore is thy plugin? |
| 00:53.26 | pinotree | kde3 or kde4? |
| 00:53.30 | xoqa | both |
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| 00:53.38 | xoqa | preferrably 4 |
| 00:53.40 | pinotree | kde3 is kdeaddons |
| 00:53.54 | pinotree | kde4 is extragear/base |
| 00:54.02 | randomsel | right, qt-copy building error |
| 00:54.04 | randomsel | http://rafb.net/p/73Es2m53.html |
| 00:54.38 | pinotree | either you enable the exceptions or disable patternist |
| 00:54.47 | pinotree | (although it should be disabled in that case) |
| 00:55.03 | pinotree | clean completely your qt-copy, and reconfigure it |
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| 00:55.34 | randomsel | hrm, would that be make clean or delete the whole directory? svn revert . -R doesn't seem to work |
| 00:55.50 | pinotree | none of the things you said |
| 00:55.54 | pinotree | svn-clean |
| 00:56.08 | randomsel | ok, thanks, will report back afterwards |
| 00:56.13 | pinotree | that is part either of the kdesdk-scripts, or the subversion tools |
| 00:57.40 | pinotree | is off to bed |
| 00:59.24 | xoqa | night pinotree |
| 00:59.34 | xoqa | i'll see if i can't find the packages in apt |
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| 01:05.35 | xoqa | anyone know where in apt the packages pinotree mentioned might be? |
| 01:05.57 | xoqa | or even on the extragear website |
| 01:06.10 | xoqa | i can't find them... i can manually install them if needed |
| 01:06.24 | xoqa | i just badly want those features so i can use konqueror instead of firefox |
| 01:06.51 | randomsel | let me check |
| 01:07.01 | xoqa | thanks randomsel |
| 01:08.18 | randomsel | seems they're in svn |
| 01:08.24 | randomsel | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdeaddons/konq-plugins/crashes/ |
| 01:08.55 | xoqa | is that for kde4 as well? |
| 01:09.57 | randomsel | http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/base/konq-plugins/crashes/ |
| 01:10.16 | randomsel | that one's for kde4 |
| 01:10.54 | randomsel | might be easier if you could find prebuild packages, or you'll have to build from source :( |
| 01:11.27 | g2g591 | it might be easier to install gentoo and use svn ebuilds ("packages") to install svn kde |
| 01:12.07 | xoqa | sweet, thanks randomsel.. i'll install them from source |
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| 01:12.34 | xoqa | g2g591: i'm not in the mood for gentoo atm :) |
| 01:13.17 | g2g591 | xoqa: im not in hte mood of having to reinstall fresh every 6 months atm :) |
| 01:13.33 | g2g591 | *buntu's release upgrader ALWAYS failes |
| 01:13.48 | g2g591 | or at least it has the 3 times i tried it |
| 01:14.03 | jrick | arch ftw :) |
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| 01:15.25 | xoqa | g2g591: i didn't like portage continually having build errors.. it's a nice system though.. opensuse and kubuntu are what i'm using currently |
| 01:15.37 | xoqa | i've installed 10+ gentoo systems in the past though :) |
| 01:16.02 | g2g591 | portage rarely has had build errors for me :) , and kubuntu's kde 4 packages were broken |
| 01:16.10 | g2g591 | opensuse is OK |
| 01:16.23 | xoqa | opensuse's kde4 packages were bad for me |
| 01:16.39 | xoqa | err.. still are :P |
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| 01:53.02 | DanielW | is current kde svn now usable again (because of current plasma changes)? |
| 01:53.44 | g2g591 | DanielW: as of this morning, the system tray is broken, but, otherwise , fine |
| 01:54.19 | DanielW | i need the system tray. a few day ago a lot was broken. so i went back to an older rev |
| 01:54.32 | xoqa | is there something i'm doing wrong... svn keeps giving me a 301 moved error when trying to checkout or list |
| 01:54.59 | xoqa | while working with http://websvn.kde.org/trunk/extragear/base/konq-plugins/crashes/ |
| 01:55.58 | g2g591 | svn co anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/base/konq-plugins/crashes doesn't work? |
| 01:56.51 | g2g591 | oh, wait its svn://anonsvn.kde.org/........ |
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| 02:02.00 | xoqa | svn: Client error in parsing arguments... |
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| 02:27.38 | PhilRod | xoqa: what command gives you that error? |
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| 02:29.29 | xoqa | PhilRod: co |
| 02:30.08 | xoqa | someone in #svn suggested looking for the kde documentation on what url to checkout |
| 02:30.24 | PhilRod | yeah, take a look on techbase.kde.org |
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| 02:30.30 | xoqa | i got these errors after using svn:// and http:// http://dpaste.com/45885/ |
| 02:30.34 | xoqa | okie |
| 02:31.08 | xoqa | i've never seen that site |
| 02:31.11 | xoqa | me likey |
| 02:31.24 | PhilRod | svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear I think |
| 02:32.55 | xoqa | well that was close... svn: No such revision 799001 |
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| 02:34.13 | xoqa | PhilRod: got it! |
| 02:34.21 | xoqa | the url was svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/extragear/base/konq-plugins/crashes/ |
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| 02:50.27 | maazu | kde 4.0.3 is nice! |
| 02:50.33 | maazu | thank you all so much |
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| 03:00.34 | Romina | hi |
| 03:00.46 | schnippi | hiho |
| 03:01.05 | Romina | when I click the middle mouse button which pastes previously selected text |
| 03:01.05 | maazu | did you all upgrade to kde4.0.3? |
| 03:01.11 | Romina | what command is beeing executed then? |
| 03:01.16 | Romina | whats the "paste" command? |
| 03:01.20 | maazu | i did and kde4.0.3 can logout without segfaulting |
| 03:01.43 | maazu | previously, kde4.0.3 logout -> shutdown only exits to shell |
| 03:01.57 | maazu | now, kde4.0.3 logout->shutdown actually powers down |
| 03:01.58 | Romina | there must be 2 different "paste-commands" .... the first for stuff copied by using the CTRL+C shortcut (pasted by CTRL+V) and the other method is just selecting text |
| 03:02.05 | maazu | thank you all so much |
| 03:02.07 | Romina | and pasting it by the middle mouse button |
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| 03:02.16 | Romina | so what command does the middle mouse button execute? |
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| 03:46.12 | xoqa | when i said i'd build a program from source.. i figured it'd have a configure and make file :P |
| 03:46.34 | xoqa | not real sure what to do with the crashes plugin files |
| 03:46.46 | xoqa | maybe... i dunno... |
| 03:46.55 | nixeagle | xoqa, you need to grab MOC and the various kde stuff >.> |
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| 03:47.59 | PhilRod | xoqa: if it's kde 4, you'll need to use cmake - there should be some info on techbase.kde.org |
| 03:48.00 | xoqa | nixeagle: MOC? |
| 03:48.05 | xoqa | AH |
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| 03:55.50 | ragsagar | is kubuntu 8.04 coming with kde 4?? |
| 03:56.34 | grundleborg | ragsagar: #kubuntu |
| 03:56.37 | nixeagle | ragsagar, probably better to ask in #kubuntu ,no? |
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| 03:56.59 | ragsagar | ok |
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| 04:41.59 | nokheat | hi all, which kde ftp is good? |
| 04:42.23 | nixeagle | nokheat, pick one :P |
| 04:42.51 | nokheat | i tried kftp and got nothing, then i tried kbear... |
| 04:43.06 | nokheat | kbear is not satisfactory as it dont unicode |
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| 04:43.52 | PhilRod | kftpgrabber, or konqueror perhaps |
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| 05:33.29 | newb | hello |
| 05:33.32 | newb | all of you |
| 05:33.37 | newb | i lost my kde meny |
| 05:33.39 | newb | \menu |
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| 05:46.53 | newb | i lost my kde menu for all my users any sudgestions? |
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| 06:17.03 | Shadow_mil | It KDE wallet secure? |
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| 06:21.11 | JmGV | Shadow_mil, should be |
| 06:21.21 | JmGV | i mean, information is encrypted |
| 06:21.54 | Shadow_mil | What type of encryption does it use? And how many bits? |
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| 06:22.21 | JmGV | i can remember just now, I think it was DES, 128bits |
| 06:22.27 | JmGV | but not sure |
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| 06:25.19 | Shadow_mil | When it opens the wallet data does it use secure memory? |
| 06:26.15 | Shadow_mil | Ill just use PGP |
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| 06:50.46 | haYnguy | ? |
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| 06:57.02 | hlamer | Hello |
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| 06:57.47 | sabayonlive-1242 | can i get some help plz |
| 06:57.54 | hlamer | How I can switch of displaying window title in the kde? (3.5.8) |
| 06:58.30 | Jucato | sabayonlive-1242: about what? |
| 06:58.33 | Jucato | hlamer: what do you mean? |
| 06:59.12 | hlamer | Where are window title bar at top of window, with name of window and buttons "Maximize", "Close" etc. |
| 06:59.34 | hlamer | Do I can remove this title generaly, for it's not taking place on screen? |
| 07:00.36 | Jucato | has trouble understanding... |
| 07:01.18 | hlamer | Jucato: Sorry my english. Are you understanded, what I mean "Window title bar" ? |
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| 07:01.40 | eagles0513875 | does anyone know where i can find a list of all necessary packages that are needed for kde to function. |
| 07:01.52 | Jucato | hlamer: yes. it is missing? |
| 07:02.41 | hlamer | Jucato: No, it's visible, but I want to hide it. I don't need, I use shortcuts |
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| 07:04.44 | Jucato | eagles0513875: http://www.kde.org/info/requirements/3.5.php |
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| 07:05.31 | jmgv | I have just installed kde on debian, but, when I start kde, i cant see the desktop. I mean, I havent got any panel, and i cant see anything in the backgroud. Only a backgroup with squares gray and white. with packed am i missing? |
| 07:06.10 | Jucato | hlamer: hm.. sorry. not sure if you can remove the Window title, but you can remove the buttons |
| 07:07.18 | hlamer | Jucato: maybe you know, Do I can do it on kde4? |
| 07:09.06 | Jucato | hlamer: you can remove the buttons.. but not the title (name). System Settings -> Appearance -> Windows -> Buttons tab -> "Use custom titlebar button positions |
| 07:10.24 | hlamer | Jucato: Thanks |
| 07:10.41 | JmGV | I have just installed kde on debian, but, when I start kde, i cant see the desktop. I mean, I havent got any panel, and i cant see anything in the backgroud. Only a backgroup with squares gray and white. with package am i missing? |
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| 07:12.12 | Jucato | JmGV: you might want to ask in #debian or #debian-kde. but sounds like you're missing almost everything... I think they have a kde-core package that installs a base KDE system (as in very very basic) |
| 07:13.52 | eagles0513875 | Jucato u have any idea where i can find a list of all the pkgs in kde |
| 07:14.12 | Jucato | eagles0513875: I already gave you a list for KDE 3.5 |
| 07:14.20 | Jucato | er wait.. all "packages"? |
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| 07:14.32 | Jucato | (btw, KDE doesn't make packages except for source tarballs) |
| 07:14.49 | eagles0513875 | Jucato ya cuz im making custom modifications to it so that i can use a more light weight version of it for a cluster os that im working on |
| 07:15.28 | Jucato | eagles0513875: might want to try this: http://jucato.org/kde/kde-core.html |
| 07:16.26 | JmGV | thansk |
| 07:16.56 | eagles0513875 | thanks Jucato |
| 07:17.33 | JmGV | instead using debian package, could i install kde in other way, i mean, compiling it for example |
| 07:17.52 | Jucato | sure, if you're up to it |
| 07:18.11 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org/index.php?title=Getting_Started/Build/Stable_Version for KDE 3.5 |
| 07:18.20 | JmGV | thank |
| 07:18.33 | JmGV | so.. i think i should wait a little before install kde4 inst it |
| 07:18.39 | JmGV | it is no very usable |
| 07:19.13 | Jucato | I'd suggest waiting at least for KDE 4.1 (July or August) |
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| 07:21.14 | JmGV | okey thanks |
| 07:21.26 | JmGV | i would like helping with this project |
| 07:21.31 | JmGV | do you need people |
| 07:21.34 | JmGV | ? |
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| 07:25.00 | JmGV | now i come back |
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| 08:24.12 | Isil`Zha | hallo. the new konsole doesn't have a way to set default sizes any more. at least i can't find it. i would like to have newly opened terminals having a predefined size. irrespective of manual resizes i did at some point. |
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| 08:27.00 | Jucato | Isil`Zha: you can do that with Window/Application-specific rules instead |
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| 08:27.33 | Jucato | right-click on the titlebar -> Special Application Settings -> Geometry tab -> Size set to Apply Initially |
| 08:27.45 | Jucato | or Force if you don't want it to be resized at all |
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| 08:46.54 | Isil`Zha | Jucato: sorry i missed your answer. that means i can't do it if i use konsole with something else than kde? |
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| 08:48.11 | zizzfizzix | hi guys! |
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| 08:48.26 | zizzfizzix | don't know if there is any specific channel for win32 port |
| 08:48.29 | Jucato | Isil`Zha: I guess so.. |
| 08:48.32 | Isil`Zha | Jucato: well actually. not too bad i guess. thanks for clarifying. |
| 08:48.35 | Jucato | zizzfizzix: #kde-windows |
| 08:48.41 | zizzfizzix | heh |
| 08:48.42 | zizzfizzix | :) |
| 08:48.43 | zizzfizzix | thx |
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| 08:54.36 | ahmad | hi |
| 08:54.48 | ahmad | anybody home? |
| 08:55.05 | mark_alec | is at his home |
| 08:55.25 | ahmad | hi can you help me |
| 08:55.43 | nicks | can anybody help regarding RHCE test ? |
| 08:55.43 | mark_alec | maybe, just ask your question and if i can't, someone else might be able to |
| 08:56.03 | mark_alec | nicks: this is #kde ... |
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| 08:56.16 | ahmad | i have installed kde4 |
| 08:56.22 | nicks | ok |
| 08:56.37 | ahmad | i dont know where is menu edit? |
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| 08:57.21 | harmental | hey guys....does anybody know a tool for creating video captures (besides wink and recordmydesktop)?? |
| 08:57.26 | Jucato | ahmad: right-click on the K Menu (Kickoff) icon or run kmenuedit (or kmenuedit4... depending on your distro) |
| 08:57.50 | ahmad | ubuntu |
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| 08:59.47 | Jucato | ahmad: #kubuntu-kde4 |
| 09:00.13 | ahmad | no body at room |
| 09:00.44 | ahmad | kubuntu-kde4 no answer |
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| 09:01.09 | Jucato | wait for an answer. or try what I said |
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| 09:06.00 | legacy | which is the best at this time kde3 or kde4? |
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| 09:07.08 | annma | legacy: what do you use in KDE? |
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| 09:08.03 | legacy | many things, kopete, konqueror, etc |
| 09:08.20 | annma | kopete 4 is not up to 3 I think |
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| 09:09.07 | annma | you can still install kde4 and use kde3 apps on it |
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| 09:09.34 | annma | if you heavily customize your desktop I woulsay to stick witj kde3 though |
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| 09:10.48 | legacy | can i have widget in kde3 like kde4 has? |
| 09:12.04 | Jucato | you can try Superkaramba |
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| 09:13.32 | legacy | by the way, why does sometime xmms stop to respon in kde4? |
| 09:14.24 | annma | so you have kde4 already? |
| 09:14.41 | legacy | yup |
| 09:14.42 | annma | why would it stop to respond? and what does that mean? |
| 09:15.41 | legacy | i can't play the song and can't be closed |
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| 09:15.59 | annma | never? |
| 09:17.02 | legacy | it can be closed before i click "play" |
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| 09:17.19 | annma | use dragon player |
| 09:17.33 | annma | run xmms from konsole through gdb |
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| 09:20.05 | legacy | i'll try it |
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| 09:21.32 | maki_d | hi all |
| 09:22.58 | bram85 | looks like ALSA blocks XMMS |
| 09:23.10 | bram85 | assuming you're on linux |
| 09:23.42 | maki_d | i have submitted this bug report http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=161043 , but i can't make a backtrace cause the dialog isn't a crash handler but a dialog |
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| 09:24.26 | annma | maki_d: this is ktorrent for kde4? |
| 09:24.35 | maki_d | annma: yes |
| 09:24.46 | annma | I don't have it |
| 09:25.28 | annma | it only happens with ktoorent? did you put other apps in Autostart? |
| 09:25.48 | maki_d | yes, akregator, kmail kopete, nicotine ... |
| 09:26.27 | annma | what if you restart the session as it was and ktorrent is on? |
| 09:27.14 | maki_d | that works fine, i don't get any errors, only autostarting is the problem |
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| 09:47.30 | kaminix | I have a problem. By adding commandline stuff in /etc/rc.local I've made my OS start my network interface automatically; however, KNetworkManager (a OpenSUSE app, I know) won't recognize the interface, Konqueror won't connect to the Internet and Kopete won't connect to the Internet. On a sidenot, Firefox also starts in offline mode. |
| 09:49.01 | annma | is it a KDE problem? |
| 09:49.25 | annma | or wouldn't you have the same problem running GNOME? |
| 09:50.57 | kaminix | annma: I have no idea really. |
| 09:51.07 | annma | I think so |
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| 09:51.54 | kaminix | Since it affects Firefox too, I suppose so. |
| 09:52.53 | annma | better ask your distro for support or Google |
| 09:53.02 | thahacker07 | what distro |
| 09:53.53 | annma | kubuntu |
| 09:56.59 | thahacker07 | kaminix http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-25915.html <--- is that the prob |
| 09:58.26 | thahacker07 | sudo route add default gw xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx |
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| 10:01.27 | kaminix | thahacker07: I don't think so. The background is, before I installed the Hardy Heron Release Candidate my network worked fairly well, then when I had upgraded it was limited to 1mbit and an unstable connection. I've now blacklisted the old drivers and installed one I compiled myself which works only I have to start it manually. However, when starting it manually some applications doesn't seem to want to use the 'new' interface; as such |
| 10:01.27 | kaminix | Kopete's MSN protocols (seems Jabber works), Konqueror and KNetworkManager won't start and Firefox comes in offline mode by default but works if I just turn it off. |
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| 10:06.10 | thahacker07 | you on wireless kaminix |
| 10:06.12 | pjv_ | hi if i lock a session, would my apps like ktorrent and kmail etc, would they still be running? |
| 10:06.24 | thahacker07 | pjv yes |
| 10:06.29 | pjv_ | thank you |
| 10:06.31 | pjv_ | kool |
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| 10:09.03 | annma | anyone here has KDE 4 on a EeePC? |
| 10:09.13 | annma | I'd like to find an image for it |
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| 10:10.54 | theunixgeek | why can't you resize the panel in KDE 4? :( |
| 10:11.11 | kaminix | thahacker07: Yes I am. Sorry for taking my time to answer. |
| 10:11.15 | annma | theunixgeek: kde4 version? |
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| 10:11.32 | theunixgeek | annma: I'm not sure which one I tried out; the question just came to my mind? |
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| 10:11.40 | theunixgeek | it's 4.0.something ;) |
| 10:11.42 | annma | then find out please |
| 10:11.45 | thahacker07 | kaminix i have the same prob on sabayon |
| 10:12.01 | annma | theunixgeek: is it the LATEST 4.0? |
| 10:12.11 | annma | 4.0.3? |
| 10:12.22 | kaminix | thahacker07: No idea on how to solve it yet I presume? |
| 10:12.25 | annma | any Help -> About KDE will tell you |
| 10:12.26 | theunixgeek | why? can you resize it in 4.0.3? |
| 10:12.31 | annma | YES |
| 10:12.33 | theunixgeek | :D |
| 10:12.37 | theunixgeek | HOORAAY! |
| 10:12.38 | annma | resize in height |
| 10:12.45 | theunixgeek | oh |
| 10:12.53 | theunixgeek | what about centering? |
| 10:12.57 | theunixgeek | like in KDE 3? |
| 10:12.58 | annma | yeah, be specific in your questions |
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| 10:13.09 | thahacker07 | kaminix i fixed it from doing net-setup |
| 10:13.23 | kaminix | thahacker07: net-setup? |
| 10:13.26 | annma | theunixgeek: KDE 4 is NOT KDE 3 |
| 10:13.37 | annma | theunixgeek: be innovative |
| 10:13.40 | thahacker07 | kaminix i dont know if that command is available on kubuntu |
| 10:13.44 | theunixgeek | annma: I know, but I miss that one feature.... |
| 10:13.48 | annma | be new, be free |
| 10:13.56 | annma | just forget you miss it |
| 10:14.09 | annma | it'll come in 4.1 |
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| 10:14.14 | kaminix | thahacker07: Ah, the Gentoo/Sabayon network setting tool used in the setup? |
| 10:14.17 | Skrot- | theunixgeek: I think you'll be able to resize it both vertically and horizontally as well as centering it by KDE 4.1 |
| 10:14.19 | annma | I have it more or less |
| 10:14.33 | theunixgeek | Skrot-: I'll have to wait for that :P |
| 10:14.37 | annma | Skrot-: let's hope it'll get fixed |
| 10:14.42 | theunixgeek | it's in July, right? |
| 10:14.44 | Skrot- | annma: indeed :) |
| 10:14.55 | thahacker07 | to kaminix my wireless is stable now and fully functional |
| 10:15.09 | annma | theunixgeek: just put kicker for now |
| 10:15.29 | theunixgeek | ok |
| 10:15.36 | annma | joining the plasma effort is also a good idea |
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| 10:15.39 | kaminix | thahacker07: Do you have the source code for the application? Maybe even I with my futile programming skills can see where the config files go and stuff. |
| 10:15.39 | thahacker07 | but i am only new to linux only having 2 weeks use |
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| 10:16.12 | thahacker07 | k i will see if i can find it |
| 10:17.15 | kaminix | thahacker07: Wow, and using Gentoo? That's cool. :) |
| 10:17.35 | kaminix | I've tried Gentoo, but had a bunch of problems with typing in particular. |
| 10:17.57 | aleksanteri | gentoo has a nice version of grep |
| 10:18.09 | thahacker07 | kaminix: haha i have 13 distros at my disposal lol but i think sabayon has the most easy functions |
| 10:18.36 | annma | cool using Gentoo? |
| 10:18.42 | annma | why would it be? |
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| 10:19.16 | thahacker07 | the only prob i have is updating it as emerge -vauD world keeps bringing up masked packages and wont succesfully do it |
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| 10:19.24 | kaminix | thahacker07: You're american? My main problem was getting åäö (Swedish) and my Japanese input to work. |
| 10:19.26 | WindowsUninstall | aleksanteri, are you sure? |
| 10:19.36 | annma | !!! |
| 10:19.38 | WindowsUninstall | $ alias |
| 10:19.38 | WindowsUninstall | alias grep='grep --colour=auto' |
| 10:19.38 | aleksanteri | WindowsUninstall, yep, it has nice red highlighting |
| 10:19.39 | thahacker07 | kaminix i am australian lol |
| 10:19.44 | annma | distro war!!!!!! |
| 10:19.45 | WindowsUninstall | aleksanteri, :P |
| 10:19.49 | aleksanteri | x_x |
| 10:19.51 | WindowsUninstall | it's only an alias :P |
| 10:20.04 | annma | aleksanteri: I thought Gentoo was about having "real" sources |
| 10:20.13 | kaminix | thahacker07: Well, still only English characters. ^^ I blame that! ^^ |
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| 10:20.21 | thahacker07 | lol |
| 10:20.35 | thahacker07 | i aint here for a distro war :P |
| 10:20.41 | annma | ;) |
| 10:20.45 | kaminix | Nah, same. ^^ |
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| 10:21.24 | kaminix | I'm here today to get my wireless functioning.... though I'm always here so I guess you can take that as you like. :p |
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| 10:24.33 | mi | wobbly in kde4 ....ccc |
| 10:24.42 | thahacker07 | kaminix i got that source for you http://www.pastebin.ca/990679<---- |
| 10:25.00 | kaminix | thanks thahacker07! You're my hero ^^ |
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| 10:25.21 | thahacker07 | yaya finally a hero xD |
| 10:25.38 | annma | lol |
| 10:25.44 | aleksanteri | thahacker07 is moving up :P |
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| 10:25.52 | annma | thahacker07: ++ |
| 10:25.59 | aleksanteri | first he was <insert_former_rank_here>, now he's a hero rofl |
| 10:26.09 | thahacker07 | haha |
| 10:26.27 | thahacker07 | and a noob :P |
| 10:26.31 | mehdi | hi to all |
| 10:26.35 | thahacker07 | hi |
| 10:27.20 | mehdi | help me i can't connect with external modem |
| 10:27.36 | thahacker07 | i wrote my own bash script the other day aswel lol |
| 10:27.39 | annma | mehdi: ask your distro channel |
| 10:27.49 | mehdi | kppp send error : time out |
| 10:28.34 | ann_eat | lunch!!!!!! |
| 10:28.40 | thahacker07 | lol |
| 10:28.52 | ann_eat | invites everyone |
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| 10:29.23 | thahacker07 | well it is like 10pm here so a verry late lunch |
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| 10:30.44 | thahacker07 | kicks jukebox metallica "one" |
| 10:31.27 | djouallah | i can't enter a bug in kde, how to make platform windows binaries ! |
| 10:33.14 | pinotree | a) you can always open a bug and then changing the info later (or ask someone who can to do that) |
| 10:33.33 | pinotree | b) i see "ms windows binaries" from the distribution method |
| 10:34.13 | djouallah | pinotree, ok will see ;) |
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| 10:35.01 | djouallah | pinotree, i already filled the bug ( which is confirmed) but how to change the platform ? |
| 10:35.14 | pinotree | what is the bug? |
| 10:35.41 | djouallah | Bug 161039 |
| 10:36.11 | mehdi | help me i can't connect with external modem |
| 10:37.05 | thahacker07 | mehdi: what distro you with |
| 10:37.12 | djouallah | it is visible in kde 4.0.067 binarries under windows, not compilled source actually |
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| 10:38.38 | djouallah | when i filled the bug i make installed from ms windows, but in the end it show compiled source, did i done something wrong ? |
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| 10:39.55 | pinotree | OS and platform are two different things... |
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| 10:40.43 | djouallah | i made distribution method ms windows binaries, but i did not worked |
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| 10:44.46 | djouallah | pinotree, please can you change this bug for ms binaries! please :) |
| 10:45.05 | pinotree | can you please look in your mailbox?! |
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| 10:59.14 | Fri13- | pinotree: What does platform mean? ;-) |
| 10:59.32 | Fri13- | Like isnt' KDE a platform? |
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| 11:10.08 | pinotree | Fri13-: http://bugs.kde.org/bug_status.html |
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| 11:12.56 | KlasRudian | I have some trouble getting KDE-4 and KDE-3.5 to start... happend after I compailed and installed KDE-4.... http://www.pastebin.org/30883 my Xorg.0.log |
| 11:13.58 | KlasRudian | before i installed KDE-4 the 3.5 version worked.... |
| 11:14.54 | KlasRudian | i see the nVidia logo and a mouse pointer for a few sec but then it all crashes |
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| 11:19.57 | ann_eat | KlasRudian: how did you install KDE 4? |
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| 11:23.26 | KlasRudian | annma, well i got gentoo so i unmasked KDE-4 and emerged it... i'm starting to think i'm missing some dependensy... but i cant figure out what... |
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| 11:24.13 | annma | ask in #gentoo |
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| 11:24.28 | annma | or #gentoo-kde I think |
| 11:24.41 | KlasRudian | yeah i'm doing it now :D |
| 11:24.57 | lemmaway | hey everyone! did someone already post some shameless plug on #kde-bugs lately? |
| 11:25.14 | harmental | guys...how can i create a video from a bunch of jpeg or eps files??? |
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| 11:27.48 | lemmaway | harmental: slideshow or animation? |
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| 11:29.57 | harmental | lemmaway: slideshow...(im not sure whats de diffference though) |
| 11:30.30 | lemmaway | harmental: by animation I meant "combining many single image to create an animated movie" like 25 jpg -> 1 second of mpeg |
| 11:30.55 | lemmaway | harmental: for slideshow you could give manslide a try. it's kde-apps rating of 92% goodness might imply it is what you're looking for |
| 11:31.12 | harmental | lemmaway: oh....no.....slideshow should work... |
| 11:31.18 | harmental | lemmaway: thx! |
| 11:31.30 | lemmaway | harmental: I hope that's the right name :) |
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| 11:32.05 | lemmaway | harmental: it is ;D -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Manslide?content=72739 |
| 11:32.46 | maki_d | how can i make a backtrace from a crash that happens when kde4 is starting |
| 11:33.15 | harmental | lemmaway: cool...ill give it a try |
| 11:33.25 | annma | start kde4 in gdb from tty? |
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| 11:34.38 | maki_d | annma: it will also show the errors caused by apps in that are autostarting ? |
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| 11:35.09 | heymr_ | ay yai yai |
| 11:35.14 | heymr_ | can someone please help me? |
| 11:35.23 | heymr_ | I just did something reaaallyy stupid |
| 11:35.28 | heymr_ | how can I revert thi: |
| 11:35.35 | annma | maki_d: gdb after a crash can give you a bacacek tr |
| 11:35.39 | heymr_ | chown 775 -R /home/me |
| 11:35.41 | annma | maki_d: gdb after a crash can give you a backtrace |
| 11:36.38 | heymr_ | anybody? |
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| 11:37.09 | heymr_ | chown 775 -R /home/me |
| 11:37.15 | heymr_ | this is very bad, right? |
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| 11:37.45 | heymr_ | hmmm...? |
| 11:38.11 | annma | ask your distro channel |
| 11:38.16 | annma | this is not kde stuff |
| 11:38.30 | heymr_ | annma: haha. |
| 11:38.36 | heymr_ | this is just basic linux stuff |
| 11:38.48 | annma | so google |
| 11:38.51 | heymr_ | annma: sorry, your right |
| 11:39.11 | Skrot- | There's also #linux for general stuff :) |
| 11:39.13 | heymr_ | annma: its just I did some funky alias thing and I cannot identify to speak to #archlinux |
| 11:39.19 | heymr_ | Skrot-: k :) |
| 11:39.51 | annma | heymr_: get a new nickname and identify it |
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| 11:40.13 | annma | not my fault if you are required to identify in your distro channel |
| 11:40.15 | f0rbid` | hi |
| 11:40.49 | heymr_ | annma: how do I get a new nick? |
| 11:41.05 | heymr_ | GHOST? |
| 11:41.57 | f0rbid` | I'm trying to build kde4 from techbase's guide. I have installed boost library but when I try to build kdepimlibs cmake doesen't found Boost_INCLUDE_DIR. I have already set this variabile with /usr/local/include/boost-1_33_1 but it doesn't works too |
| 11:42.38 | heymr_ | bye |
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| 11:42.46 | annma | f0rbid`: did you remove the CMakeCache.txt file after installing boost? |
| 11:42.52 | f0rbid` | (I'm using slackware.) |
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| 11:43.29 | f0rbid` | annma, I did not |
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| 11:44.28 | annma | f0rbid`: start with that and rerun cmake |
| 11:44.55 | f0rbid` | annma, where's CMakeCache.txt ? |
| 11:45.08 | f0rbid` | sorry |
| 11:45.08 | annma | in build dir of kdepimlibs |
| 11:45.16 | f0rbid` | yep, sorry for stupid question |
| 11:45.23 | annma | ;) |
| 11:45.41 | f0rbid` | why did I remove this file? |
| 11:47.11 | f0rbid` | It doesn't works too |
| 11:47.26 | f0rbid` | if I try to modify manually the CMakeCache.txt file? |
| 11:48.11 | annma | what does boost say? |
| 11:48.51 | f0rbid` | it says: |
| 11:48.51 | annma | Boost_INCLUDE_DIR |
| 11:48.51 | f0rbid` | CMakeCache.txt |
| 11:48.54 | f0rbid` | sorry |
| 11:48.54 | annma | is it empty? |
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| 11:48.58 | f0rbid` | Please set the following variables: |
| 11:48.58 | f0rbid` | Boost_INCLUDE_DIR |
| 11:49.07 | annma | in CMakeCache.txt |
| 11:49.22 | annma | f0rbid`: in slackware, did you build boost? |
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| 11:49.43 | annma | from sources I mean |
| 11:50.17 | f0rbid` | annma, yes, and the /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/ exist |
| 11:50.30 | annma | are the include in it? |
| 11:51.12 | f0rbid` | in this dir? |
| 11:51.41 | annma | in /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/ what do you have? |
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| 11:52.25 | f0rbid` | I have the boost directory with hpp files |
| 11:52.29 | annma | paste the 2 first lines from ls in that dir |
| 11:52.52 | f0rbid` | I'm in /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/ |
| 11:52.58 | f0rbid` | I'm in /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/boost now |
| 11:53.03 | annma | ouch |
| 11:53.06 | annma | please |
| 11:53.16 | f0rbid` | algorithm/ noncopyable.hpp |
| 11:53.16 | f0rbid` | aligned_storage.hpp |
| 11:53.19 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:53.24 | f0rbid` | annma, yes |
| 11:53.36 | annma | you said /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/ |
| 11:53.44 | annma | now you add a boost/ |
| 11:53.52 | annma | not sure this is standard |
| 11:54.08 | annma | not sure /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/boost is standard |
| 11:54.31 | f0rbid` | if I modify the CMakeCache.txt with /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/boost ? |
| 11:54.39 | annma | that's mean |
| 11:54.56 | annma | that's a mean hack which does not really address the problem |
| 11:55.14 | annma | ask in #slackware where people boost install |
| 11:55.17 | annma | for a start |
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| 11:55.43 | f0rbid` | hum, the problem is to set Boost_INCLUDE_DIR variable |
| 11:55.49 | annma | nope |
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| 11:56.00 | annma | this is because boost is not found that it asks that |
| 11:56.07 | maki_d | do i need to make some custom script to run kde with gdb? |
| 11:56.25 | annma | maki_d: start from tty and try gdb startx |
| 11:56.27 | maki_d | gdb startkde says that its not executable |
| 11:56.36 | annma | I never did that but why not |
| 11:56.39 | f0rbid` | annma, boost are installed in /usr/local/include/boost-1_33/boost |
| 11:56.51 | annma | f0rbid`: is that slackware standard??? |
| 11:56.56 | annma | f0rbid`: mine is not there |
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| 11:57.16 | annma | f0rbid`: YOUR boost is installed here, what about other slackware? |
| 11:57.27 | f0rbid` | dunno |
| 11:57.34 | annma | that's why I said to ask |
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| 11:57.51 | annma | f0rbid`: to me it does not look at standard include dir |
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| 11:58.02 | f0rbid` | annma, I try to install boost with a .tgz |
| 11:58.45 | annma | HOW did you install it? I asked you already but you did not answer |
| 11:58.49 | lemma | harmental: sure, come over and go ahead! |
| 11:59.13 | lemma | harmental: ah damn. I read wrong. I thought you wanted to join the bugsquad :D |
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| 12:10.38 | f0rbid` | annma, I have fixed |
| 12:10.42 | f0rbid` | I'm stupid ;D |
| 12:10.50 | f0rbid` | # installpkg boost-1.33.1-i686-1as.tgz |
| 12:10.53 | f0rbid` | this is the solution |
| 12:11.45 | annma | so what was the problem? |
| 12:12.02 | annma | it was badly installed? |
| 12:12.18 | f0rbid` | yes, from source the directory isn't the standard of slackware |
| 12:12.40 | f0rbid` | Before, I have tryied to install boost from source |
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| 12:17.50 | tuxick | well duh |
| 12:18.09 | tuxick | you're not even supposed to mix those paths |
| 12:18.59 | f0rbid` | annma, the standard direcotory is: /usr/include/boost-1_33_1 |
| 12:19.09 | f0rbid` | for slackware users |
| 12:21.37 | annma | YES |
| 12:21.40 | annma | that's sane |
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| 12:26.04 | tuxick | for a packaged install perhaps :) |
| 12:26.16 | tuxick | wonder what's taking kmail so long to check this account |
| 12:26.33 | tuxick | a firewall droppping packets would be understandable |
| 12:27.29 | annma | tuxick: ??? |
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| 12:28.28 | tuxick | annma: added account info, and it takes minutes saying "checking account FOO for new mail" |
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| 12:28.46 | tuxick | i prolly mistyped pass dunno, i just don't see why it'd take so damn long |
| 12:29.04 | tuxick | except for the case where firewall drops packets |
| 12:30.38 | tuxick | i'm the typical demanding user: i want things to hurry up, and provide clues |
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| 12:32.43 | verblendet | hi, when i start up kde it always load kmail, but it did that not before, where is the autostart value hidden? i have no autostart or similar in my tasklist, startbutton or so |
| 12:32.51 | verblendet | is this somewhere in the profiles? |
| 12:33.04 | g2g591 | verblendet: its somewhere in ~/.kde |
| 12:33.14 | DirkGently | saved session? |
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| 12:33.23 | tuxick | most likely |
| 12:33.34 | verblendet | no, i installed debian over fedora 3 now, uses nfs home |
| 12:33.39 | DirkGently | exit kmail... make sure it's really closed |
| 12:33.44 | DirkGently | logout and back in |
| 12:33.47 | verblendet | and it didnt start kmail thingy before. hmmm |
| 12:34.16 | verblendet | i closed kmail and logged in now several time, but always tha same, i will search in ~/.kde |
| 12:34.16 | Thundercloud | *nodnods* |
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| 12:35.00 | verblendet | in -kde/Autostart there is only one file called -directory |
| 12:35.05 | verblendet | .directory |
| 12:35.19 | verblendet | but there are no entries regarding kmail start etc |
| 12:35.39 | Thundercloud | verblendet: I had this problem briefly |
| 12:35.45 | Thundercloud | Try this, you never know, could work |
| 12:35.45 | verblendet | and .kde/shre/autostart is empty |
| 12:35.56 | Thundercloud | Close kmail, open up a konsole and type "killall kmail" |
| 12:36.02 | Thundercloud | Then close the console, log out and log in |
| 12:36.09 | verblendet | ah ok, its a kind of background zombie :)) |
| 12:36.16 | Thundercloud | Sometimes kmail has a problem with not closing, especially if you try to do it whilst checking an IMAP account |
| 12:36.16 | verblendet | ok, i will try, thx :) |
| 12:36.29 | verblendet | kmail is unconfigured :) |
| 12:36.40 | Thundercloud | *shrugs* try it anyway :) |
| 12:36.46 | verblendet | no process killed :( |
| 12:36.52 | Thundercloud | Weird. Distro? |
| 12:36.55 | verblendet | so no kmail running then, nothing to kill |
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| 12:37.05 | verblendet | debian etch 4 r3, fresh installed yesterday |
| 12:37.14 | DirkGently | verblendet: something else to check - kcontrol -> KDE Components -> Session Manager |
| 12:37.17 | verblendet | but using my old home from nfs, should be no problem or? |
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| 12:37.53 | verblendet | DirkGently, hmm, exclude kmail? |
| 12:38.29 | DirkGently | verblendet: start with empty session |
| 12:38.41 | verblendet | ok, ill try :) |
| 12:38.43 | verblendet | thank you |
| 12:38.50 | DirkGently | hth :) |
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| 12:40.13 | verblendet | ok, start new session and exclude kmail, log out and in, but doesnt help |
| 12:40.23 | verblendet | it always starts up kmail, grrr |
| 12:40.50 | DirkGently | bizarre |
| 12:41.11 | verblendet | yes, especially because i never used kmail before |
| 12:41.37 | DirkGently | you're running same as me too |
| 12:41.45 | DirkGently | and I've had no problems |
| 12:41.56 | DirkGently | I use my own webmail |
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| 12:42.18 | verblendet | yes, bu ti iused a somewhat olde kde before, i gues sit is screwed up between old version and new version and settings etc |
| 12:42.35 | DirkGently | before what? |
| 12:42.36 | verblendet | i prefer my own webmail and seamonkey too (NOT iceape!) |
| 12:42.59 | verblendet | i had fedora3 running until yesterday, and all was fine, its an older kde then |
| 12:43.18 | verblendet | then i installed debian and all trouble begins |
| 12:43.27 | DirkGently | but you said it's a fresh install of debian |
| 12:43.38 | verblendet | yes its a fresh install, using nfs homes! |
| 12:43.49 | DirkGently | ahh |
| 12:43.52 | verblendet | and kde writes its old configs in my home, where new kde looks for it too |
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| 12:44.40 | DirkGently | you tried a new user? |
| 12:45.05 | verblendet | ill test around a bit more, maybe swqitch back to good old linux, debian isnt really what i want :) |
| 12:45.29 | DirkGently | verblendet: but it's the best |
| 12:45.30 | verblendet | a new user, hmmm, could work, yes it works, root doesnt get kmail |
| 12:45.42 | DirkGently | eek! root! |
| 12:45.53 | verblendet | DirkGently, yes, maybe, but i found that too many debian ways are not very ... i dont know how to say |
| 12:45.58 | DirkGently | try a non-root user |
| 12:45.59 | verblendet | yes root! :D |
| 12:46.04 | DirkGently | root is a special case |
| 12:46.14 | verblendet | i just tested a login after install :) |
| 12:46.17 | DirkGently | you shouldn't be using root in X |
| 12:46.24 | tuxick | verblendet: they're the debian way, "not invented here" and "pass me the crackpipe" |
| 12:46.31 | verblendet | yes, i bnever log in to x as root, its bad, i know |
| 12:46.43 | tuxick | debian has its good points, but those guyss should sober up |
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| 12:47.05 | DirkGently | tuxick: who rattled your cage :p |
| 12:47.08 | DirkGently | ? |
| 12:47.26 | verblendet | ok, dont lets talk about what distro is the best :) |
| 12:47.31 | tuxick | allowing X as root should be disallow, hardcoded everywhere |
| 12:47.40 | verblendet | ill create a new user and see what happens |
| 12:47.55 | tuxick | most installs don't allow it by default thank bob |
| 12:48.08 | DirkGently | tuxick: tell that to the redhat crowd... they don't even have a DANGER wallpaper |
| 12:48.21 | tuxick | really? |
| 12:48.23 | MrGrim | tuxick: you do realize X runs sudo root, right? |
| 12:48.29 | tuxick | that does surprise me |
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| 12:48.52 | tuxick | MrGrim: X is traditional security flaw indeed |
| 12:49.10 | MrGrim | [root@mrgrim konversation]# ls -l `which Xorg` |
| 12:49.13 | MrGrim | -rwsr-xr-x 1 root root 1670484 2008-03-23 07:57 /usr/bin/Xorg |
| 12:49.17 | DirkGently | MrGrim: most damage is done by newbies though |
| 12:49.17 | f0rbid` | CMake Error: Cannot find source file "/home/kde-devel/kde/src/KDE/kdebase/workspace/plasma/dataengines/soliddevice/hddtemp.cpp" for target "plasma_engine_soliddevice" |
| 12:49.17 | MrGrim | X always runs as root :) |
| 12:49.19 | f0rbid` | how can I fix? |
| 12:49.20 | tuxick | dirk even on fedora? |
| 12:49.35 | tuxick | MrGrim: i of course mean not allowing X users to log in as root |
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| 12:49.52 | DirkGently | f0rbid`: you're not trying trunk are you? |
| 12:50.06 | DirkGently | plasma is uber broken |
| 12:50.10 | Skrot- | f0rbid`: Wait for the person who forgot to commit hddtemp.cpp to commit it, or comment out the soliddevice data engine from the cmakelists.txt |
| 12:50.26 | f0rbid` | I use svn checkout svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/trunk/KDE/kdebase |
| 12:50.54 | DirkGently | f0rbid`: don't expect anything to work properly... if at all |
| 12:50.59 | verblendet | its wekend, so maybe the coder just commits changes right now :) |
| 12:51.10 | f0rbid` | lol |
| 12:51.24 | f0rbid` | I can't build? |
| 12:51.33 | DirkGently | you can try |
| 12:51.50 | DirkGently | plasma is broken since qt 4.4 |
| 12:52.10 | verblendet | f0rbid`, i had this often when accessing cvs repos, etc, sometimes its fixed 5 minutes later after another checkout |
| 12:52.31 | f0rbid` | I must wait so |
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| 12:55.07 | katastrophe | hm.. had anyone the same problem, i cant get kio_http to work, it doesnt make a connection |
| 12:55.15 | katastrophe | ftp and other protocols work |
| 12:55.22 | katastrophe | to proxy settings |
| 12:55.24 | katastrophe | no |
| 12:56.06 | f0rbid` | verblendet, how can I see when this file is add to svn? must I checkout all? |
| 12:56.49 | verblendet | f0rbid`, if you do a checkout it only loads newer files |
| 12:57.03 | verblendet | so doung a checkout again would help |
| 12:57.12 | f0rbid` | ok, I'm a newbie of svn :p |
| 12:57.26 | verblendet | erm, but not if the plasma thingy is broken and unsupported at all |
| 12:57.45 | f0rbid` | what mean erm? |
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| 12:59.41 | verblendet | something liek "ähem" |
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| 13:00.31 | verblendet | erm, hmmm, ähem, öööh :) (weird german "sounds" i make when thinking) |
| 13:00.45 | f0rbid` | verblendet, I use the stable package |
| 13:00.49 | f0rbid` | is the best way imho |
| 13:01.18 | verblendet | are you sure the svn is stable? isnt there a precompiled binary then? |
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| 13:01.57 | verblendet | i guess if you use svn, its intention is not to be stable :) |
| 13:03.08 | annma | svn trunk is NOT stable |
| 13:03.25 | annma | it's highly unstable, chances are you won't get any desktop right now |
| 13:03.52 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:03.59 | verblendet | thats what i mean, so better grab a precompiled package and install as usual |
| 13:04.06 | annma | taht's UNSTABLE f0rbid` |
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| 13:04.17 | annma | yes verblendet, you are totally right |
| 13:05.18 | verblendet | or, to have fun, load all stable sources and compile like hell :) |
| 13:05.36 | annma | hmmm I should not have svn up in kdebase in fact |
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| 13:07.01 | verblendet | i once tried to compile a full kde in my lfs, but that took me hours to configure and link etc, compile necessary libs etc., yeah, only once, then i give up , other people would do a better job here :) |
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| 13:10.00 | roman | when various kde apps want to play a sound (in the background, like kpowersave etc.) wich programm plays that sound? |
| 13:10.10 | roman | im asking because it seems that im missing that programm |
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| 13:11.19 | MrGrim | roman: in kde 3.x arts usually does, but it can be configured to use any program |
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| 13:11.59 | roman | hm, i guess arts delivers a small player, right? |
| 13:12.41 | roman | im not using arts (gentoo without USE="arts"). |
| 13:12.59 | MrGrim | arts is a sound library and daemon |
| 13:13.02 | MrGrim | similar to esd |
| 13:13.35 | roman | i know, but i think to play a soundfile, somewhere a programm is called with that soundfile |
| 13:13.49 | MrGrim | you can configure it that way |
| 13:13.51 | annma | roman: set in KControl set the player to aplay or something |
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| 13:14.02 | roman | wich player is tiny enough to play the sounds in the background? (mplayer needs some time to start) |
| 13:14.18 | roman | ah thanks anma, ill have a look for it |
| 13:14.21 | pinotree | play |
| 13:14.28 | MrGrim | I use to use ogg123, but that only works if all sound effects are in ogg vorbis |
| 13:14.31 | pinotree | part of sox |
| 13:15.19 | Thundercloud | alsaplayer works best imo |
| 13:16.08 | roman | okay, ill try it with aplay |
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| 13:16.17 | roman | thanks for the information |
| 13:16.36 | roman | (unfortunately first, i have to fix my alsa.. :( ) |
| 13:17.34 | verblendet | funny, my sound also doesn't work here since reinstall :( |
| 13:18.08 | verblendet | xmms plays, but i hear nothing, hmmm, ok this goes Off Topic i guess, not kde related, or? |
| 13:18.08 | djouallah | in kdeglobals what is the entry to modifiy mouse setting ( single or double click) ! |
| 13:18.18 | roman | mine works wit mplayer etc. but not wih aplayer |
| 13:18.32 | verblendet | good question, i also had double click before, now its single |
| 13:18.51 | verblendet | single klick always let me think of windows :( |
| 13:19.23 | djouallah | verblendet, ?! |
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| 13:19.48 | verblendet | single click on desktop icons satarts aplication :) thats what i mean |
| 13:20.11 | verblendet | i had double click before, but since fresh install..... everything is different |
| 13:20.18 | djouallah | verblendet, in systemesettings and then mouse u can changet it |
| 13:20.29 | verblendet | ah thx, cool |
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| 13:21.06 | djouallah | verblendet, u are under kde4 ? |
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| 13:21.38 | verblendet | djouallah, i dont know :> what version is installed |
| 13:22.07 | djouallah | what are using, ubuntu, kubuntu opesuse ! |
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| 13:22.11 | verblendet | kde 3.5.5 the help says |
| 13:22.19 | djouallah | ah ok |
| 13:22.21 | verblendet | debian etch 4 r3 installed yesterday |
| 13:22.31 | djouallah | ok fine |
| 13:22.35 | verblendet | und ich bereue es jetzt schon! |
| 13:22.45 | djouallah | ! |
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| 13:22.50 | pinotree | (english please) |
| 13:23.37 | djouallah | is googling if kdeglobals entries are documented somewhere ;) |
| 13:23.49 | pinotree | djouallah: what is the _real_ problem? |
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| 13:24.13 | djouallah | want to make kde app aware i want double click ! |
| 13:24.23 | djouallah | windows xp ;) |
| 13:24.36 | djouallah | not sure it is doable ? |
| 13:24.47 | pinotree | which style are you using? |
| 13:25.04 | djouallah | oxygene |
| 13:25.17 | pinotree | then configure it in systemsettings â mouse |
| 13:25.26 | verblendet | djouallah, i changed it in peripherals, mouse in kconfig |
| 13:25.52 | djouallah | that's it we poor xp users don't have systemesetting |
| 13:25.57 | verblendet | how can i test if kde sound system works? is there a testroutine? |
| 13:26.02 | djouallah | we have to play with kcmshell4 |
| 13:26.08 | djouallah | and kdeglobals! |
| 13:26.20 | MrGrim | pinotree: so I have this black and blue puss filled lump on my right butt cheek, anything kde can do for me? |
| 13:26.21 | annma | verblendet: in kde4? |
| 13:26.29 | verblendet | annma, in kde 3.5.5 :) |
| 13:26.46 | annma | look in kcontrol, there's a sound tab |
| 13:27.11 | verblendet | annma, you mean kde control center? |
| 13:27.34 | aleksanteri | kde control center = kcontrol |
| 13:27.38 | annma | yes |
| 13:27.38 | verblendet | oops, there is a test sound button :O |
| 13:27.53 | verblendet | ok, i hear no sound, seems alsa is misconfigured then |
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| 13:28.43 | djouallah | mary tu peux me filler ton fichier kdeglobals just pour voir les entree de la sourie, annma |
| 13:29.23 | aleksanteri | "(english please)" |
| 13:29.32 | verblendet | argh, alsaconf fails or simply closes the terminal window. |
| 13:29.39 | aleksanteri | verblendet, try kmix |
| 13:30.00 | verblendet | so when i use a terminal to start an application via desktop icon, how can i let the window open to read the output messages? |
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| 13:31.17 | aleksanteri | verblendet, you can use "kdialog --msgbox $(command_here)" |
| 13:31.19 | verblendet | aleksanteri, and then? volume is set to maximum |
| 13:31.27 | aleksanteri | hmm.. see is it on at all :D |
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| 13:32.00 | verblendet | its on, a red dotlight is shining on master volume and wave |
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| 13:32.13 | verblendet | i guess my alsa is broken |
| 13:32.19 | aleksanteri | *red* dotlight? |
| 13:32.24 | verblendet | in kmix? |
| 13:32.29 | aleksanteri | yeah |
| 13:32.31 | aleksanteri | i thought it's supposed to be green :/ |
| 13:32.50 | verblendet | :O |
| 13:32.59 | aleksanteri | i guess you've got a problem |
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| 13:33.25 | verblendet | oh, yes , its green :) i looked at the other tab showing othe rinputs for record etc |
| 13:33.30 | verblendet | but its green, and on |
| 13:33.37 | aleksanteri | haha so i guess that side is fine... |
| 13:33.41 | aleksanteri | and still no sound? |
| 13:33.45 | verblendet | no |
| 13:33.50 | aleksanteri | hmm.. |
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| 13:34.03 | aleksanteri | are your speakers on? :D can't think of anything else |
| 13:34.12 | verblendet | so, let me find out where the alsaconfig icon points to and run that in a normal shell |
| 13:34.30 | verblendet | yes :) speakers are on, tested and working, cable is pplugged in the correct port |
| 13:34.32 | aleksanteri | hmm. |
| 13:34.46 | aleksanteri | for the icon, try "konsole -e alsamixer" |
| 13:34.52 | verblendet | it exits and i cant read output, i guess something goes wrong here |
| 13:34.52 | aleksanteri | or alsaconfig or whatever it is |
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| 13:36.01 | verblendet | it shows nice bars, seems everything is correct |
| 13:37.03 | verblendet | !alsa is ready to use, enjoy..." grml! |
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| 13:37.25 | verblendet | ok i guess its not kde related then, all apps runs fine using alsa, but simply no output |
| 13:38.29 | verblendet | must i restart kde in order to use eventually changes to my alsaconfig? |
| 13:38.37 | verblendet | or resatart soundsystem etc? |
| 13:38.59 | verblendet | ah! |
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| 13:39.16 | verblendet | disabling and enabling soundsystem again using alsa seems to work, i hear something!!! wooot |
| 13:40.03 | verblendet | thats magical! xmms i s fine now, lets make a party :D |
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| 13:53.08 | rajalot | how is it possible that Konsole doesn't have a text file wiht preferences? |
| 13:53.49 | rajalot | For some oddball reason it always starts as root-konsole |
| 13:54.35 | verblendet | alt+f2 and type konsole, press enter starts in root mode? |
| 13:54.39 | rajalot | except if I set it to start as "konsole --profile default", but in that case it nevertheless starts root-session when opening an new tab |
| 13:55.01 | rajalot | verblendet, yes |
| 13:55.30 | rajalot | it looks as it somehow has saved root-session as a default |
| 13:55.40 | verblendet | /usr/share/appliications/kde/konsole.desktop. |
| 13:55.50 | verblendet | it says i dont have write permissions, uhm |
| 13:56.06 | verblendet | ok, thats prefs for the taskbar icon |
| 13:56.08 | rajalot | verblendet, there isn't any user specific text file, uh? |
| 13:56.17 | verblendet | i dont see one |
| 13:56.29 | rajalot | m neither |
| 13:56.59 | verblendet | when i start up konsole here via icon or alt+f2 its working as expected |
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| 13:57.59 | rajalot | I had to login as root, then login as myself, quit the root session, save the normal session as default and modify menu-shortcut to start as default |
| 13:58.11 | rajalot | even then opening new tab opens a root session! |
| 13:58.14 | rajalot | gaah... |
| 13:58.48 | rajalot | no, I'm not logged in as a root :D |
| 13:59.18 | rajalot | xterm works as usual |
| 13:59.33 | annma | rajalot: is that a first install? |
| 13:59.49 | rajalot | annma, what do you mean with that? |
| 13:59.59 | annma | did you just install KDE? |
| 14:00.04 | rajalot | annma, no |
| 14:00.06 | annma | or did it become broken? |
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| 14:00.35 | rajalot | annma it became broken when I messed with konsole profile settings, colours and font only, however |
| 14:00.42 | annma | ah |
| 14:01.22 | annma | so you need to backup konsolerc to konsolerc.bak in $KDEHOME/share/config |
| 14:01.31 | annma | and then restart konsole |
| 14:01.44 | annma | quit konsole before backing up the file |
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| 14:02.47 | Nyle | hey guys |
| 14:02.50 | Nyle | Good morning |
| 14:02.55 | Nyle | Happy 4/20 to you all |
| 14:03.44 | annma | same to you Nyle ;) |
| 14:03.54 | Nyle | thanks |
| 14:04.07 | Nyle | reads /topic |
| 14:04.21 | Nyle | oh cool .3 is out |
| 14:04.50 | Nyle | but I rather like and am used to the 3.5.x |
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| 14:05.31 | pinotree | wonders what's happened today |
| 14:06.24 | rajalot | annma, well that did the trick |
| 14:06.39 | annma | :) |
| 14:06.42 | rajalot | I had already done that if I only had found the config file |
| 14:06.51 | rajalot | tricky ocation |
| 14:07.07 | annma | you said preferences |
| 14:07.26 | annma | better explain your problem than asking stuff |
| 14:07.28 | rajalot | *location |
| 14:07.30 | verblendet | imho all apps should tell the user where its files exists :) |
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| 14:07.50 | verblendet | like "hey, my config file is use is in ....." in te settings, that would be very cool |
| 14:07.51 | annma | it implied the default konsole was that way for you rajalot |
| 14:07.52 | rajalot | well I learned my *nix ropes on a Mac and over there they are preferences |
| 14:08.22 | annma | you should have said what I asked you, that it worked and then became messed |
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| 14:09.59 | rajalot | didn't I? |
| 14:10.32 | annma | not really |
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| 14:12.01 | verblendet | hmmm, seems some more options i configured in my old kde are not set |
| 14:12.23 | verblendet | i had configured a 'stay on top' button for windows, but it isnt here anymore |
| 14:13.17 | verblendet | and when i start theme manager for de, it wont show me my theme |
| 14:13.21 | verblendet | :O |
| 14:14.36 | verblendet | oh, selecting new themes will override all settings? |
| 14:14.53 | verblendet | so themes is a preconfigured setting for windows decoration and all that stufF? |
| 14:14.55 | annma | OT: I have to dd a file to a USB stick, how do I do that? |
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| 14:15.14 | dwinslow | dd if=path/to/file of=/dev/sdx |
| 14:15.19 | verblendet | dd if=/path/to/image of=/dev/usbstickdevice |
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| 14:15.21 | annma | thanks dwinslow |
| 14:15.30 | annma | thanks verblendet |
| 14:15.31 | dwinslow | np |
| 14:15.34 | verblendet | :) |
| 14:15.48 | verblendet | but use the correct output device for of= !!!! |
| 14:15.58 | verblendet | do an fdisk -l before as root |
| 14:16.17 | verblendet | and dmesg maybe which will show you the correct device when inserting the usb stick |
| 14:16.18 | dwinslow | remembers spending an hour debugging after he typoed a device node that didn't exist |
| 14:16.26 | annma | OK |
| 14:16.31 | annma | thanks a lot |
| 14:17.00 | verblendet | you hav eide drives? or sata? |
| 14:17.20 | annma | it's /dev/sdc |
| 14:17.27 | verblendet | just make sure you use the correct /dev/sd device for your stick and if you use sata drives in your system, its also sdX |
| 14:17.53 | verblendet | both, sata and usb drives are emulated scsi |
| 14:18.00 | verblendet | udev sometimes screws things aup |
| 14:18.21 | verblendet | and changes device settings for some odd reason after every reboot or inserting a stick! |
| 14:18.27 | verblendet | (sometimes) |
| 14:18.52 | annma | I'll try a EeePC image on a Classmate PC |
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| 14:19.09 | verblendet | good luck :) |
| 14:19.29 | verblendet | wwwpc is somewhat special hardware i guess, not all things may work |
| 14:19.33 | annma | they are the same hardware |
| 14:20.08 | annma | subnotebooks based on flash and with Intel chipset |
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| 14:22.59 | tuxick | eeepc = sweet, i want one |
| 14:23.20 | tuxick | what WM/DT is on those anyway? |
| 14:24.03 | dwinslow | they have a kde setup by default |
| 14:24.07 | tuxick | verblendet: but udev can be configured to assign correect devices etc |
| 14:24.13 | tuxick | dwinslow: ah wasn't sure |
| 14:24.15 | tuxick | nice :) |
| 14:24.51 | tuxick | trolltech were wise to change the license back then |
| 14:25.22 | annma | Classmate is like EeePC but for kids so the design is different |
| 14:25.32 | annma | it's padded with a cover |
| 14:25.44 | dwinslow | googles |
| 14:26.08 | annma | http://www.classmatepc.com/product.html |
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| 14:26.22 | dwinslow | my first thought was 'looks like an XO' but there's not much similarity past the rounded edges |
| 14:26.26 | annma | the hardware is described, i think it's the same than EeePC |
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| 14:27.38 | rajalot | what was that mini laptop for under 100 quid again? |
| 14:27.48 | dwinslow | rajalot: that's the XO |
| 14:28.05 | rajalot | right mr dwinslow, absolutely |
| 14:28.06 | verblendet | the display of the eeepc is quite tooo small, i sold my eeepc again after 4 days, will wait for next version |
| 14:28.19 | Haru | hi.. can someone tell me if "poster -mA4 -pA0 ~/output.ps >outfile" convert a a4 image to span over enough sheets for a a3 image? |
| 14:28.30 | rajalot | anyone have any experience with it? |
| 14:28.56 | dwinslow | rajalot: i was at an OLPC code jam a couple of weeks ago, got to poke some xo's for a while |
| 14:29.02 | annma | rajalot: the OX is not like the EeePC as it doe snot run a normal linux |
| 14:29.12 | dwinslow | but if you want to chat about those you should go to #olpc |
| 14:29.15 | annma | I emulated one on Fedora |
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| 14:29.28 | DirkGently | wants an HP 2133 |
| 14:29.28 | annma | you also have Live CDs to emuloate it |
| 14:29.34 | rajalot | annma, doesn't run a normal linux...? |
| 14:29.44 | dwinslow | rajalot: it doesn't run a normal DE |
| 14:29.58 | annma | rajalot: it's a python based interface called Sugar |
| 14:30.07 | annma | not GNOMLE or KDE or Xfce |
| 14:30.08 | DirkGently | Eee PC looks like a toy... which is understandable as it was pitched towards schools |
| 14:30.30 | rajalot | oh, so it does run a normal Linux but it just doesn't have a regular GUI |
| 14:30.38 | tuxick | it's small, that's what matters to me |
| 14:30.45 | tuxick | and solid state |
| 14:30.49 | annma | not sure about the kernel |
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| 14:31.07 | dwinslow | it runs fedora with some customizations (i'm a bit light on details) |
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| 14:31.21 | annma | rajalot: from the developer point of view it's totally different than the EePC |
| 14:31.34 | annma | dwinslow: OX? |
| 14:31.42 | DirkGently | tuxick: it looks like the PC900 has both slots already full (internal and external) - internal 4GB |
| 14:31.48 | dwinslow | yes, the XO comes with Fedora |
| 14:31.57 | dwinslow | you can use yum to install packages and everything |
| 14:32.06 | anisfarhana | pokes annma |
| 14:32.11 | rajalot | annma, sure. my PS3 looks different than my G3 server |
| 14:32.14 | DirkGently | I would rather wait until the internal ssd is big |
| 14:32.34 | DirkGently | i.e. > 8GB |
| 14:32.46 | annma | dwinslow: yes |
| 14:32.47 | verblendet | indeed, 8gb is nothing :) |
| 14:32.57 | annma | dwinslow: I emulated it on Fedora but using XO cvs code |
| 14:33.10 | tuxick | 4G will do just fine |
| 14:33.11 | Haru | hi.. can someone tell me if "poster -mA4 -pA0 ~/output.ps >outfile" convert a a4 image to span over enough sheets for a a3 image? |
| 14:33.17 | dwinslow | annma: cool, is this for kde-edu stuff? |
| 14:33.38 | annma | dwinslow: there's no qt apps on OOX so we're far from KDE |
| 14:33.40 | verblendet | tuxick, if you wear a 40gb usb disk around with you, internal 4gb seems to be enough :) |
| 14:33.53 | annma | I played with a bare qt template but did not go much further |
| 14:34.03 | annma | but yes, it's in edu interest ;) |
| 14:34.33 | DirkGently | Haru: is poster a KDE app? |
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| 14:34.39 | Haru | DirkGently, yes |
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| 14:34.47 | verblendet | haru, try convert the .ps file to pdf and youll see |
| 14:35.01 | DirkGently | new to me :) |
| 14:35.10 | Haru | verblendet, well i tried both and in either cases the target output turns out to be a blank ps |
| 14:35.17 | verblendet | i would expected it as kposter :) |
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| 14:35.49 | verblendet | haru, so you have to get an output first :) did you try to look at the ps file with ghostscript ? |
| 14:36.06 | Haru | i did.. |
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| 14:36.14 | verblendet | hmmm, no idea then |
| 14:36.37 | Haru | it does turn out to be tumbling over enough a4 pages.. but the contents not there |
| 14:36.41 | verblendet | btw if you want A3 you shoudl set -pA3 or? |
| 14:37.03 | DirkGently | I can't see poster in the source code of KDE |
| 14:37.48 | verblendet | /usr/bin/poster: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.4.1, stripped |
| 14:37.49 | verblendet | hmmm |
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| 14:38.44 | Skrot- | Doesn't appear to be a KDE application. |
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| 14:39.31 | DirkGently | very difficult to gg search a program with such a generic name too |
| 14:39.57 | Skrot- | The poster package in ubuntu only depends on libc6 and libpaper1 :> |
| 14:40.05 | DirkGently | anyone want to buy a Linux poster? lol |
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| 14:41.12 | Skrot- | DirkGently: http://freshmeat.net/projects/poster/ says the homepage is printing.kde.org ;) |
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| 14:42.12 | DirkGently | oh yes... I remember goffioul... the CUPS evangelist |
| 14:42.18 | looonger | what qt version does kde4.1 depend on? |
| 14:42.32 | DirkGently | looonger: 4.4 |
| 14:42.33 | verblendet | full ack to dirk, searching for that command in search engines gives not very useful results :) |
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| 14:45.06 | sabayonlive-7677 | how do i get the the 3.5 verison x86-64 loop2 to work with xdl graphic insta of the standard scren, im using the 32 bit 3.4f but i want to use the 3.5 i have an hp zv6000 |
| 14:45.17 | sabayonlive-7677 | anybody know how |
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| 14:46.21 | sabayonlive-7677 | corban yu know the answer to that qestion |
| 14:46.35 | verblendet | Haru, "poster -mA4 -pA0 ~/output.ps >outfile" |
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| 14:46.43 | verblendet | where is the inputfile? |
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| 14:46.51 | Haru | verblendet, ~/output.ps |
| 14:46.52 | corban | what question? |
| 14:46.56 | verblendet | input is outfile.ps then? |
| 14:46.59 | sabayonlive-7677 | how do i get the the 3.5 verison x86-64 loop2 to work with xdl graphic insta of the standard scren, im using the 32 bit 3.4f but i want to use the 3.5 i have an hp zv6000 |
| 14:46.59 | verblendet | ah ok |
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| 14:47.19 | verblendet | i have no .ps file on hand to test it here :( |
| 14:47.46 | Haru | verblendet, u can make one .. :) print image to file |
| 14:47.49 | shadok | verblendet: google with ext:ps |
| 14:48.32 | corban | got GFX card u got? |
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| 14:49.48 | sabayonlive-7677 | i got a 128 ATI EXpress 200m |
| 14:50.21 | corban | what version of the ati drivers u got installed |
| 14:50.49 | Jucato | sabayonlive-7677: #sabayon might be of more help to you |
| 14:51.17 | corban | i would also suggest joining channel #sabayon |
| 14:51.34 | sabayonlive-7677 | so what do u all use |
| 14:51.40 | aleksanteri | debian |
| 14:51.46 | f0rbid` | is the plasma from svn broken? |
| 14:52.01 | sabayonlive-7677 | oh okthanks bro, |
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| 14:52.11 | aleksanteri | well at least i use debian, dunno about the others :P |
| 14:52.15 | corban | Sabayon Linux |
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| 14:52.45 | Jucato | f0rbid`: it might be. lots of breakage for Plasma due to the recent sprint |
| 14:52.51 | aleksanteri | of course i should say everybody *should* use debian but i don't want to start a distro war so i won't |
| 14:52.58 | verblendet | poster here fails with weird warnings on different files, ...mentions trouble with gif89a :O |
| 14:53.01 | sabayonlive-7677 | my ATI drivers thats what i ned to know if theres some i ned to install in order for that version to work with enhanced graphics |
| 14:53.18 | sabayonlive-486 | how to update kde |
| 14:53.32 | Jucato | sabayonlive-7677: KDE doesn't make packages or drivers. please ask your distribution |
| 14:53.39 | verblendet | nack nack nack, debioan isnt the solution to everything :) |
| 14:53.40 | Jucato | sabayonlive-486: #sabayon please |
| 14:53.49 | sabayonlive-486 | sabayon |
| 14:54.21 | verblendet | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:54.29 | sabayonlive-486 | i would like if it is possible to update the kde 3 to kde 4 |
| 14:54.40 | aleksanteri | "[17:53:33] <Jucato> sabayonlive-7677: KDE doesn't make packages or drivers. please ask your distribution" |
| 14:54.54 | verblendet | everything is possible if you know how and why :) |
| 14:54.56 | Jucato | sabayonlive-486: you can. but there are different ways to do that. the first place or way you should ask is with your distribution |
| 14:55.13 | Jucato | well, not really "upgrade" to KDE 4 |
| 14:55.41 | sabayonlive-486 | sabayon 3.4f |
| 14:55.52 | aleksanteri | kde4 is still work-in-progress afaik |
| 14:55.57 | Jucato | sabayonlive-486: yes, please ask in #sabayon |
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| 14:56.31 | sabayonlive-486 | thanks |
| 14:57.12 | Jucato | thought sabayon fixed their konversation and stopped it from auto-joining #kde... |
| 14:57.24 | verblendet | hehehe |
| 14:57.50 | Jucato | yeah.. it's all coming back again... |
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| 14:59.35 | verblendet | oh yeah :) now most things are working again, seems my computer has all necessary tools installe dnow, phew, i will wait for 2 years now until i upgrade again :)) |
| 14:59.47 | verblendet | i think i should visit my candyman right now :D |
| 14:59.56 | verblendet | thanks for help guys, have a nice sunday :) |
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| 15:01.29 | sabayonlive-7677 | , I would like to upgrade my kde 3 to kde 4 in sabayon 3.4f |
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| 15:02.19 | Jucato | sabayonlive-7677: um... ok... #sabayon again *please* |
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| 15:04.49 | sebo | jest tu kots z POLSKI? |
| 15:05.35 | Jucato | sebo: English only |
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| 15:06.44 | sebo | i know englisch little |
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| 15:12.14 | annma | ok I made the electricy crash! |
| 15:12.30 | dwinslow | annma: congratulations |
| 15:12.41 | dwinslow | i think there's a Geek Scout badge for that one |
| 15:13.00 | annma | ;) |
| 15:13.04 | aleksanteri | haha |
| 15:13.22 | aleksanteri | now make yer house crash :D |
| 15:13.34 | DirkGently | annma: crash? lol |
| 15:13.47 | DirkGently | reboot it? |
| 15:14.00 | annma | I plugged too many devices |
| 15:14.26 | DirkGently | oops... trying to do washing and drying at the same time? |
| 15:14.48 | annma | +ironing |
| 15:15.08 | annma | add the kettle and boom! |
| 15:15.22 | DirkGently | lol |
| 15:15.30 | aleksanteri | imagines a nuclear explosion on the boom part |
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| 15:15.53 | aleksanteri | but then, annma survived it, so i guess i got myself wrong :/ |
| 15:15.56 | DirkGently | o0= |
| 15:16.03 | DirkGently | well... nearly |
| 15:16.10 | Darkloader | Hi, I'm trying to install moodin splash screens and KDE themes, but I don't find how to install them :( |
| 15:16.28 | annma | lol aleksanteri |
| 15:16.41 | aleksanteri | Darkloader, kcontrol -> appearance & themes |
| 15:17.13 | Darkloader | aleksanteri, I have tried that, but it won't work |
| 15:17.20 | aleksanteri | "won't work" is quite vaguew |
| 15:17.27 | aleksanteri | s/vaguew/vague/ |
| 15:17.30 | Jucato | aleksanteri: no that won't work |
| 15:17.39 | aleksanteri | Jucato, it won't? :/ |
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| 15:17.39 | Jucato | Darkloader: what distro? try to check if they have a package for it |
| 15:17.41 | aleksanteri | works fine for me |
| 15:17.55 | Jucato | aleksanteri: moodin needs to be either compiled or installed like a program |
| 15:18.02 | Darkloader | aleksanteri, I'm using Kubuntu Gutsy.. |
| 15:18.25 | aleksanteri | Jucato, well ok, but i guess the kde themes are installed via kcontrol |
| 15:18.29 | aleksanteri | at least, i do :P |
| 15:18.41 | Jucato | yep. mooding themes |
| 15:18.49 | Jucato | aleksanteri: oh, moodin is installed by default in Kubuntu |
| 15:18.52 | Jucato | er sorry |
| 15:18.55 | Jucato | Darkloader: |
| 15:20.15 | Darkloader | ok Jucato, but how do I launch moodin? (i'm srry, i'm a total newbie to kde) |
| 15:22.21 | Jucato | Darkloader: you don't launch it. moodin is a ksplash engine. the theme you choose will run when you login. if moodin is already installed, you just install the moodin theme like any other ksplash theme |
| 15:24.46 | Darkloader | I see, but I have downloaded a file, and when i extract it, it consist of a few png files, and a rc file. but can't open it with kcontrol |
| 15:25.31 | Jucato | no you don't extract it |
| 15:25.45 | Jucato | you keep it in it's .tar.gz archived form |
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| 15:26.30 | Darkloader | ok, tnx ! |
| 15:26.36 | Jucato | Darkloader: http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/userguide/splash-screen.html |
| 15:26.50 | Jucato | and http://docs.kde.org/kde3/en/kdebase/userguide/customizing-desktop.html for a whole lot of other instructions/guides |
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| 15:54.35 | tom[] | hello |
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| 15:56.06 | tom[] | i actually trying to change my KDE version to KDE4 |
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| 15:56.47 | annma | #mandriva |
| 15:57.07 | annma | just use drakconf and select the kde4 ackages |
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| 15:57.15 | tom[] | konsol task me which package i want to install |
| 15:57.29 | pinotree | #mandriva |
| 15:57.36 | tom[] | hum.... |
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| 16:13.38 | haYnguy | and switch between them |
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| 16:18.13 | xjunior | can Konqueror save the session such as Firefox...? |
| 16:18.54 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 16:20.19 | xjunior | hi! |
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| 16:26.01 | admin__ | easy way to start developing with qt |
| 16:26.55 | pinotree | #qt |
| 16:27.28 | admin__ | qt4 |
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| 16:28.12 | pinotree | yes... please ask in #qt |
| 16:28.14 | ma3x | where do i change the headers in kmail? (it shows enterprise headers) |
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| 16:28.22 | ma3x | i want it to show 'long headers' |
| 16:28.37 | ma3x | if i open the message and select long headers, then the next time i open it, enterprise headers are displayed all over again |
| 16:28.41 | pinotree | view â headers ? |
| 16:28.41 | ma3x | isn't there any permannent setting? |
| 16:29.25 | admin__ | easy way to start with kdevelop |
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| 16:29.36 | ma3x | for some reason under view-> in kmail i have only the following: unread count, total column, expand, collapse, source tree |
| 16:29.42 | ma3x | but headers is not there |
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| 16:37.44 | KlasRudian | when i try to activate composite in kde-4.0.3 it all goes black exept the mouse pointer.... and my dispaly drivers are in order.... i'm i missin something? |
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| 16:51.27 | KlasRudian | have some more info.... when i enable composite in KDE-4.0.3 i get a black screen exept the mouse pointer and after a while it all crashes..... this is the error msg i get in Xorg.0.log http://www.pastebin.org/30932 |
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| 16:52.32 | katastrophe | KlasRudian: this is probably the fault of the nvidia driver |
| 16:52.50 | katastrophe | perhaps you could try another version |
| 16:54.01 | KlasRudian | katastrophe, oooh that's no good |
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| 16:54.32 | KlasRudian | katastrophe, i'm using the newest one.... is there a problem with that one or your just guessing? |
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| 16:54.59 | katastrophe | i have a 7800gt and use the nvidia-driver myself |
| 16:55.12 | katastrophe | ive had lots of crashes... so thats my guess |
| 16:55.26 | katastrophe | at the moment i use 100.14.19 |
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| 16:55.41 | katastrophe | the newer ones cause more trouble here |
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| 16:56.43 | KlasRudian | katastrophe, oooh i'm on the 169.12 driver |
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| 18:54.59 | asn | I installed ispell,aspell,aspell-gr and even tho I can do aspell -d greek in a terminal, there is no option for Greek in the Kmail spell check selection |
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| 19:24.39 | joan | hi |
| 19:24.46 | PhilTrunk | hi joan |
| 19:24.52 | joan | any audio cd player for kde4? |
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| 19:25.27 | joan | juk and dragon don't have it |
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| 19:26.47 | sandsmark | amarok? |
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| 19:27.50 | sandsmark | kscd? |
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| 19:30.16 | joan | thx sandsmark. i'll use kscd, as i should install all kde3libs and will take some time to compile and i'm lazy now :) |
| 19:30.30 | sandsmark | I thought kscd was ported? |
| 19:30.32 | sandsmark | ^^ |
| 19:30.50 | sandsmark | are you on gentoo, by any chance (mentioning compiling^^)? |
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| 19:31.20 | Ketrel | is tthere a key combo in KDE that lets you kill an unresponsive program without having to use a task manager? |
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| 19:31.41 | apokryphos | Ketrel: ctrl+alt+esc |
| 19:32.04 | Sychemit | hi I`m new |
| 19:32.19 | Ketrel | apokryphos, no effect |
| 19:32.23 | PhilTrunk | Sychemit: welcome to kde then! |
| 19:32.29 | Ketrel | I'm using Kubuntu if that makes a difference |
| 19:32.39 | Sychemit | tanks |
| 19:32.49 | Q-collective | Ketrel: ctrl-alt-escape > click with your mouse on the unresonsive propgram |
| 19:32.53 | apokryphos | well that's what it is... should make the cursor into a big X |
| 19:32.55 | Sychemit | sorry for my bad English ;) |
| 19:33.29 | Ketrel | Q-collective abd apokryphos, that's the effect I was looking for as I remember it from a while back, but it doesn't seem to have any effect when I do it. |
| 19:33.43 | apokryphos | Ketrel: kde 3? |
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| 19:34.03 | Ketrel | yes |
| 19:34.31 | apokryphos | is your Esc key working? |
| 19:35.05 | Ketrel | yes |
| 19:35.37 | Ketrel | ctrl+esc brings up ksysguard |
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| 19:35.50 | Ketrel | so I know the escape key is functional |
| 19:36.08 | Ketrel | and I have keyboard commands that depend on ctrl+alt, so I know both of those work as well |
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| 19:36.37 | DirkGently | Ketrel: you're not using vmware by any chance? |
| 19:36.48 | Ketrel | nope |
| 19:37.04 | apokryphos | Ketrel: Ketrel what does kcontrol -> keyboard shortcuts have it listed as? |
| 19:37.09 | apokryphos | it will be something like 'kill window' |
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| 19:38.16 | Ketrel | That has it listed as ctrl+alt+escape |
| 19:38.22 | Ketrel | but let me check the other settings manager |
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| 19:38.32 | Ketrel | same thing |
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| 19:39.07 | Ketrel | odd |
| 19:39.17 | apokryphos | Ketrel: -> kubuntu bug tracker |
| 19:39.26 | Ketrel | I set it to a combo I know works because I used it for somethign else, and it still doesn't work. |
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| 19:39.48 | Ketrel | I guess I'll submit a bug, but before I do, is there something I can run to see if the kill thing itself works |
| 19:39.59 | Ketrel | like a command that'll do the same as what the key combo should've? |
| 19:40.27 | apokryphos | yes, xkill |
| 19:40.43 | Ketrel | ok, the xkill command works |
| 19:41.17 | Ketrel | interestingly enough, none of the keyboard shortcuts listed in Miscellaneous work. |
| 19:41.22 | Ketrel | so I guess that is a bug then? |
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| 19:42.20 | apokryphos | appears so, yes |
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| 20:07.10 | airer-girl | hi where is the trash in ~home/.kde/share? |
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| 20:07.33 | tuxick | ???? |
| 20:07.53 | airer-girl | ....... |
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| 20:07.57 | airer-girl | when you "move to trash" where does it go? |
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| 20:09.32 | PhilTrunk | airer-girl: trash:. |
| 20:09.37 | PhilTrunk | er, trash:/ sorry |
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| 20:11.44 | airer-girl | where is the absolute path to trash? |
| 20:11.45 | Ketrel | airer-girl: ~/.local/share/Trash/files |
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| 20:11.50 | airer-girl | there we go, ty |
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| 20:13.56 | airer-girl | ty ty ty ketrel |
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| 20:15.31 | Ketrel | no prob |
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| 20:32.34 | alecs1 | hello, I ran kwrite4 from on my normal user accout, and it overwrote the settings of kwrite3 |
| 20:32.36 | alecs1 | shouldn |
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| 20:32.58 | alecs1 | shouldn't there be some code to work around this? |
| 20:33.14 | alecs1 | such that the old settings to not blow up? |
| 20:33.32 | alecs1 | I mean by default, not with script and such |
| 20:33.57 | momesana | alecs1: it has been said over and over again that one should backup the account or use another user account to this will not happen |
| 20:34.08 | momesana | alecs1: some distros work around this |
| 20:34.33 | alecs1 | I know about distros, I backed up as I was afraid that would happen :) |
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| 20:34.44 | momesana | alecs1: you can also set a variable somewhere in the kde4 config files in order to have a custom directory where the kde4 settings are stored |
| 20:34.59 | momesana | alecs1: there is a variable somwhere |
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| 20:35.10 | momesana | I read it in a magazine |
| 20:35.21 | momesana | but I can't recall it and am too lazy to look it up again |
| 20:36.43 | alecs1 | but I mean kde3 is not going to dissapear, and if the user is not so carefull things will blow |
| 20:37.05 | alecs1 | a few lines of bloat code to make the user happy :) |
| 20:37.24 | momesana | yep. but I think once kde-4.1 appears, people will upgrade and don't keep two versions of kde simultanously |
| 20:37.41 | momesana | alecs1: and the distros are using workarounds anyway |
| 20:37.42 | tuxick | still waits for kde-4.1 anyway |
| 20:38.16 | momesana | alecs1: so that is only something that concerns us geeks that svn up every week to get the newest version of kde4 |
| 20:38.48 | momesana | alecs1: and the geeks know they should backup the stuff or set a variable to prevent things blowing up |
| 20:39.38 | alecs1 | I try to write some kde4 code right now, but I am not such a geek, and I haven't found any way to get Debian let me install both kde versions :) |
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| 20:39.46 | latitu_ | when i boot, kde is not auto started, i get a black screen. i login in and type startx. why? |
| 20:40.24 | momesana | alecs1: I heard from some people that is perfectly possible on debian to do that. but they were using bleeding edge packages |
| 20:41.11 | momesana | latitu_: is xdm/kdm/gdm activated in your initiscripts? is it started automatically when you boot up? |
| 20:41.25 | alecs1 | hmm, I should google it again, but when I tryed to install kate from kde4 aptitude offered to tons of kde3 software :( |
| 20:41.52 | latitu_ | momesana $ sudo /etc/init.d/kdm start |
| 20:41.53 | latitu_ | Starting K Display Manager: kdm already running. |
| 20:41.55 | alecs1 | hmm, I should google it again, but when I tryed to install kate from kde4 aptitude offered *remove* to tons of kde3 software :( |
| 20:41.58 | momesana | alecs1: I installed it on ubuntu on a friends desktop |
| 20:42.04 | latitu_ | momesana how to check? |
| 20:42.41 | momesana | latitu_: what distro are you using? they are tools for that. Actually I am writing a tool for this for OpenRC. But every distro should provide its own runlevel editor |
| 20:42.48 | latitu_ | momesana kubuntu |
| 20:43.03 | momesana | latitu_: kubuntu ... let me ask a friend |
| 20:43.27 | latitu_ | k |
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| 20:44.30 | airer-girl | hi for k3b what does it mean when "verification improperly initialized"? |
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| 20:46.11 | momesana | latitu_: the guy doesn't answer |
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| 20:46.32 | latitu_ | hm |
| 20:47.00 | momesana | latitu_: chkconfig is the tool |
| 20:47.08 | momesana | latitu_: I found a german tutorial |
| 20:47.47 | momesana | latitu_: oh, no. That was mandriva. try sysv-rc-conf |
| 20:48.05 | latitu_ | k |
| 20:48.06 | momesana | latitu_: sysv-rc-conf --list |
| 20:48.18 | AdvocatusDiaboli | no need for kde3: |
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| 20:48.32 | AdvocatusDiaboli | kicker/settings/system administration/system services |
| 20:48.38 | AdvocatusDiaboli | for runlevel editor |
| 20:49.31 | momesana | latitu_: see ya guys later |
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| 20:49.48 | latitu_ | AdvocatusDiaboli which one to check |
| 20:50.15 | AdvocatusDiaboli | latitu_: I don't know, I just saw you looking for a runlevel editor, and told where it is |
| 20:50.25 | AdvocatusDiaboli | what do you need to do? |
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| 20:52.18 | Imaginativeone | would someone help me with kde for the mac? |
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| 20:52.56 | g2g591 | Imaginativeone: i don't think that your gonna get a full install whatever happens |
| 20:54.52 | Imaginativeone | thanks |
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| 20:55.45 | latitu_ | AdvocatusDiaboli start kde auto |
| 20:56.20 | Imaginativeone | what's that? |
| 20:57.09 | latitu_ | how to reconfigure xserver?3 |
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| 20:58.14 | latitu_ | how to reconfigure xserver? |
| 20:58.57 | g2g591 | latitu_: depends on distro , ask in #yourdistro |
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| 21:08.22 | v6lur | in KDE3 konqueror servicemenus, can i define ServiceTypes by file extensions? (as .mo files don't seem to have a mime type) |
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| 21:18.22 | PhilTrunk | v6lur: I think you'd need to create a new mimetype (I think that's possible...) |
| 21:18.36 | nixeagle | Quick question, as I'm not seeing much in the news about kmail 4, is there a planned release for that for 4.1? |
| 21:18.50 | g2g591 | yes, i think so |
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| 21:19.27 | shadok | and what about koffice 2 ? |
| 21:19.54 | g2g591 | idk |
| 21:20.01 | g2g591 | I is no dev |
| 21:20.31 | shadok | I is no cat |
| 21:20.32 | shadok | :D |
| 21:20.55 | v6lur | PhilTrunk: yes, it's possible to create new mimetypes, for localmachine at least, i just hoped one could use file extensions too... |
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| 21:28.32 | FiNeX | hi! |
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| 21:46.28 | v6lur | hmm, konqueror now sometimes shows warning message "mimetye application/octet-stream not found" when entering directories. but it does exist... |
| 21:46.49 | v6lur | weird |
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| 21:49.27 | nixeagle | v6lur, which version of it? |
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| 21:51.21 | v6lur | kde3, if that's what you mean |
| 21:51.30 | v6lur | 3.5.9 |
| 21:52.16 | pinotree | run kbuildsycoca in a console, and do NOT create that mimetype yourself |
| 21:52.39 | v6lur | oh |
| 21:52.45 | v6lur | ok... |
| 21:52.58 | v6lur | thanks |
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| 22:45.09 | sabayonuser | Need help with a linux live CD |
| 22:45.36 | g2g591 | sabayonuser: don't tell me, its sabayon |
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| 22:46.32 | sabayonuser | Yeah yeah... Anyway, hard disk detected but cannot mount or open it, and the error message is "kdemediamanager is not running" |
| 22:47.03 | g2g591 | sabayonuser: wierd, see #sabayon for sabayon specific things |
| 22:47.09 | sabayonuser | kk |
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| 22:48.54 | julie | the problem is I changed my system lang to persian then tried to change it back to english but now its stuck on persian, kde menu is stuck on persian |
| 22:49.02 | julie | I'm using kubuntu |
| 22:49.48 | g2g591 | tried |
| 22:49.52 | g2g591 | #kubuntu? |
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| 22:55.48 | julie | hi |
| 22:55.56 | julie | can someone help me? |
| 22:56.04 | g2g591 | sure, hopefully |
| 22:56.32 | Biohazardous | pick up a "beginner's persian" book? lol sorry, no idea :( |
| 22:56.42 | julie | well the problem is the kde language will not change to english |
| 22:56.57 | julie | Biohazardous: I already know persian |
| 22:57.08 | julie | its just that the computer is not mine etc etc |
| 22:57.16 | Biohazardous | ahhh |
| 22:57.22 | g2g591 | julie: hmm, try asking in #yourdistro, im thinking a distro specific bug |
| 22:57.36 | PhilTrunk | julie: rename (don't delete) ~/.config, run kbuildsycoca, then try again |
| 22:58.00 | PhilTrunk | julie: is the rest of your kde in english or persian? |
| 22:59.58 | julie | where is the config |
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| 23:01.12 | g2g591 | julie: ~/.kde |
| 23:02.08 | julie | i can't see it g2g591 |
| 23:03.10 | g2g591 | julie: you have to enable show hidden files |
| 23:03.23 | julie | g2g591: done that |
| 23:04.01 | g2g591 | julie: then, Im stumped, you are running kde, and yet kde's config files dont exist!? |
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| 23:05.31 | julie | i'm running kubuntu |
| 23:05.48 | julie | g2g591: could it be somewhere else |
| 23:06.07 | hari_seldon99 | hi, I upgraded my kubuntu kernel and now the KDE popup for usb doesn't show when I plug a thubdrive in (it shows up on /var/log/messages though) |
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| 23:06.26 | apokryphos | hari_seldon99: #kubuntu |
| 23:06.28 | g2g591 | hari_seldon99: #kubuntu , you should ask there too julie |
| 23:06.31 | hari_seldon99 | k |
| 23:06.43 | Q-collective | lol |
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| 23:06.55 | g2g591 | read the /topic! |
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| 23:14.39 | julie | I'm not getting any help from kubuntu |
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| 23:31.03 | Biohazardous | dumb question... how do I configure compiz settings in kde? I can't seem to find the app to run =s |
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| 23:45.17 | Biohazardous | nm.. found it, had to install the fusion package |
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| 23:47.10 | Jucato | Biohazardous: just for reference, there's a #compiz-fusion channel |
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| 23:50.40 | DanielW | what is current state of plasma in svn? systray back working? |
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