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| 00:02.54 | tafsen_ | Sho_: extragear?_ |
| 00:03.19 | Sho_ | http://extragear.kde.org/ |
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| 00:41.47 | admin_ | Hello, I just installed KDE4 in kubuntu, how do I run it as a full session? |
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| 00:47.08 | Toraux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:48.33 | Toraux | generally after two attempts the dialog won't even appear |
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| 00:51.06 | Toraux | no one has seen this? |
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| 01:17.40 | Toraux | it appears certain applications/threads are blocking kde from allowing me to shutdown restart or log out |
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| 01:49.25 | daskreech | Why won't knetworkmanager WORK? |
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| 02:06.21 | daskreech | Koffice needs a sugar daddy |
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| 02:10.15 | qazwsx | is there a way in kde to have a virtual desktop size of 12800 x 10240 ? |
| 02:10.38 | qazwsx | (i.e. when I move around, my windows pans; and apps thinkgs that my monitor is 12800 x 10240 pixels) |
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| 02:13.58 | daskreech | Jucato: chill out man |
| 02:14.08 | Jucato | huh? |
| 02:14.18 | Mathman | qazwsx: with X I spose. nothing to do with kde really |
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| 02:14.58 | qazwsx | Mathman: with the virtual viewport? |
| 02:15.04 | qazwsx | with that, can I go beyond what my video card handles? |
| 02:15.06 | daskreech | Jucato: Freezer :) |
| 02:15.26 | Jucato | it's early morning. temp isn't that high yet :) |
| 02:15.34 | Jucato | 29.4 °C |
| 02:15.35 | Mathman | qazwsx: hmm, don't ask me how I spose. I just know it can be done because I've had it do just that before |
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| 02:27.32 | Aondo | hmm okular didnt want me to mark and copy out a small piece of text in a pdf becaus of DRM, but i could convert it all into plain text file :P |
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| 02:55.07 | DaSkreech | Who does Tagua> |
| 02:55.08 | DaSkreech | ? |
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| 03:39.07 | DaSkreech | Kuiet |
| 03:40.53 | Jucato | nothing wrong with Quiet... we are, after all, pro-Qt too :) |
| 03:41.20 | Jucato | temp starting to rise... 31.0 :) |
| 03:41.29 | DaSkreech | the Gumption of it all :) |
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| 03:42.11 | Jucato | :P |
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| 03:43.32 | DaSkreech | Anyway I want to know more about Tagua |
| 03:44.01 | Jucato | #kde4-devel ? kde-games ML? |
| 03:44.04 | DaSkreech | partly cause I want to know what line kollagame has to pass to get press |
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| 03:44.28 | DaSkreech | and partly cause I want to make the board game of Life and internationalize it :) |
| 03:44.34 | yurimxpxman | in ktorrent, what's a peer's "score"? |
| 03:44.54 | DaSkreech | yurimxpxman: I think it's how much of the file it has and it's connection to you in the cloud |
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| 03:44.59 | Jucato | try to kommunicate with CPrgmSwR2? maybe he knows something? |
| 03:44.59 | yurimxpxman | DaSkreech: oh no.. not another Life clone :) |
| 03:45.12 | DaSkreech | yurimxpxman: You can clone things other than Life? |
| 03:45.25 | Jucato | yeah... Second Life |
| 03:45.26 | DaSkreech | Artificial life doesn't count :-P |
| 03:45.29 | yurimxpxman | DaSkreech: lol |
| 03:45.31 | DaSkreech | Jucato: Good point |
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| 03:46.03 | DaSkreech | Jucato: CPrgmSwR2 is hitting frustration point cause he wants some help |
| 03:46.10 | DaSkreech | Now I know that open source is a tipping point |
| 03:46.27 | Jucato | DaSkreech: help him! |
| 03:46.41 | yurimxpxman | Jucato: what do "chocked" and "snubbed" mean? |
| 03:46.41 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:46.58 | DaSkreech | Jucato: umm that's what I'm trying to do :) |
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| 03:48.28 | Jucato | no idea |
| 03:48.31 | Jucato | or rather, I forgot |
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| 03:49.22 | Jucato | http://www.vladd44.com/torrent/terms.php |
| 03:49.25 | yurimxpxman | the torrent I'm downloading right now has so many bad packets that it's been clogging up my internet.. it's crazy |
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| 03:49.52 | Jucato | yurimxpxman: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminology_of_BitTorrent |
| 03:49.59 | yurimxpxman | thanks |
| 03:50.06 | DaSkreech | yurimxpxman: get some wire brushes and scrub out your tubes. They get jammed with like trucks or something I dunno |
| 03:50.30 | yurimxpxman | DaSkreech: tubes..? |
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| 03:50.52 | DaSkreech | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Series_of_tubes |
| 03:51.41 | DaSkreech | Or even better |
| 03:51.42 | DaSkreech | http://www.comedycentral.com/motherload/player.jhtml?ml_video=71914&ml_collection=&ml_gateway=&ml_gateway_id=&ml_comedian=&ml_runtime=&ml_context=show&ml_origin_url=%2Fmotherload%2Findex.jhtml%3Fml_video%3D71914&ml_playlist=&lnk=&is_large=true |
| 03:52.19 | yurimxpxman | "an internet was sent".. wtf? haha |
| 03:53.30 | yurimxpxman | he sounds like my grandpa when he tries to explain things about his computer, like his "thumb thing". |
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| 03:59.15 | DaSkreech_ | is there a list of endangered species for KDE4.0? |
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| 04:32.43 | DaSkreech | can someone dig the name inter.viewcentral.com and tell me who owns it? |
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| 04:44.29 | ccherrett | benJIman: it turned out the loggin problem was that the user had been takenout of all groups but two. So audio,cdrom,vmware,wheel, etc.... where all not working |
| 04:44.46 | ccherrett | benJIman: no idea how a user gets nuked out of multiple groups |
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| 05:25.29 | klackron | hi, in KDE how do I change the units from European metric to American standard? |
| 05:25.36 | klackron | Do I use the KDE control panel for that? |
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| 06:02.46 | kucrut | how do you change the background color (yellow) of tooltips? |
| 06:03.21 | Jucato | It depends whether the widget Style you are using allows changing it |
| 06:03.55 | swarna | could anybody tell me which is better koffice or openoffice in kde |
| 06:04.16 | kucrut | Jucato, how do i know that? |
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| 06:05.40 | Jucato | kucrut: KControl -> Appearance & Themes -> Style -> Configure button. if the option is there to change tooltip colors |
| 06:05.53 | Jucato | I only know Domino (and maybe QtCurve) that allows that |
| 06:07.39 | Jucato | swarna: asking in a KDE channel, you're bound to get a KDE answer |
| 06:07.53 | Jucato | of course, by nature, KOffice works better *in* KDE |
| 06:08.02 | kucrut | Jucato, i'm using qtcurve and i couldnt find that option ;( |
| 06:08.07 | kucrut | but thanks for the info |
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| 06:08.21 | Jucato | so maybe only Domino does allow that. |
| 06:09.07 | kucrut | yes, i have domino and that's true. too bad it doesnt have a 'flat' style ;( |
| 06:09.17 | Jucato | doesn't? |
| 06:09.39 | Jucato | I'm sure there is. Domino is one of the most configurable styles there are. the other would be QtCurve |
| 06:10.16 | kucrut | i couldnt find it |
| 06:10.16 | Jucato | the "flat" look would greatly depend on the gradients for the tabs, buttons, and scrollbars. no/flat gradients = flat look |
| 06:10.37 | Jucato | you can most probably find flat Domino configuration samples in http://kde-look.org |
| 06:11.59 | kucrut | i'll look |
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| 06:17.25 | jhunbogz | hi |
| 06:17.39 | jhunbogz | any body home? |
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| 06:42.28 | ionproto | hey everybody |
| 06:43.05 | ionproto | i have a pretty simple question that I haven't been able to find an answer to... |
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| 06:43.47 | ionproto | lol |
| 06:44.01 | ionproto | i just cant believe im actually asking it... |
| 06:44.16 | ionproto | i'll put it like this |
| 06:44.20 | thiago_home | just don't ask "what is 2 + 2" |
| 06:44.46 | Jucato | er.. remove the 4 :) |
| 06:44.51 | ionproto | the text colour on tabs in konqueror and kopete |
| 06:45.09 | ionproto | remains black even tho the colour i have chosen for |
| 06:45.22 | ionproto | menus etc is a lighter colour. |
| 06:45.28 | ionproto | so... |
| 06:46.36 | ionproto | yeah, seems like irt should be easy to find but... |
| 06:46.51 | ionproto | not easy to search for either |
| 06:47.07 | ionproto | the answer, that is |
| 06:47.54 | ionproto | any advice on how i might find the info i'm looking for in documentation? |
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| 06:48.07 | Jucato | I'm not sure if it's the color for Button Text or for Links.... |
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| 06:48.44 | ionproto | hmmm i was gonna try that, but held off... lemme check that... |
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| 06:49.08 | Jucato | um.. sometimes you have restart Konqi for the changes to take effect I think |
| 06:49.28 | ionproto | ya i tried that. reboot as well... |
| 06:49.33 | ionproto | no luck. |
| 06:49.42 | Jucato | nah, reboot is definitely unnecessary |
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| 06:49.52 | Jucato | at most you'll just need to restart KDE (logout and back in) |
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| 06:50.43 | ionproto | pretty sure it's not link colour, it's still default blue. |
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| 06:52.58 | ionproto | any other ideas? |
| 06:54.53 | ionproto | thanks Jucato. later |
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| 06:59.28 | Rasi | http://carnager.dyndns.org/font.png |
| 06:59.47 | Rasi | anyone a clue, why the fonts look that ugly on some pages? |
| 06:59.49 | Rasi | only on some tho |
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| 07:07.14 | xlotlu | Rasi: there's no anti-aliasing |
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| 07:09.39 | xlotlu | Rasi: smaller fonts are supposed to not be antialiased starting from a certain size; you can turn it on though for all fonts in control center->fonts, but that might make for some slower rendering performance, and illegible small fonts |
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| 07:12.08 | Rasi | but i didnt have that before |
| 07:12.14 | Rasi | its since my new setup |
| 07:12.52 | Rasi | plus: opera displays it just fine |
| 07:13.45 | Rasi | but i have set the same font familiy in both browsers |
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| 07:43.29 | indro | hi all |
| 07:44.06 | indro | just wanna report that websvn doesnt work. |
| 07:44.15 | indro | http://websvn.kde.org/ |
| 07:44.45 | bastiaan | hello all, i got a weird problem, i just installed dbus, hald and compiled kioslaves with hal support to enable automounting, automounting is working, but the popupwindows freeze as soon as they pop up. (the "What do you want to do" popup) any idea's ? |
| 07:45.23 | bastiaan | right now i got ~10 frozen KDE-Deamon windows... |
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| 07:46.01 | WeeJeWel | is it possible to run gtk on kde? So i can sset gtk themes while kde runs the rest? |
| 07:46.25 | annma | bastiaan: you compile KDE from svn? |
| 07:46.43 | annma | you can run any gtk prog on kde |
| 07:46.44 | bastiaan | annma, no, KDE 3.5 |
| 07:47.01 | annma | bastiaan: gentoo? |
| 07:47.05 | bastiaan | true :) |
| 07:47.15 | annma | so ask in #gentoo please |
| 07:47.26 | annma | one can compile 3.5 from KDE svn too you know |
| 07:47.43 | bastiaan | true |
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| 07:48.27 | Jucato | annma!!!!!!! :) |
| 07:49.50 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
| 07:50.06 | annma | fridge unfrozen? |
| 07:50.26 | Jucato | yep. unfrozen and now on the way to being frozen again heheh :) |
| 07:50.35 | Jucato | it's a weekly chore :/ |
| 07:51.12 | annma | ;) |
| 07:51.22 | annma | I know about such chores ;) |
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| 08:14.33 | ionproto | I have discovered the answer to my question |
| 08:15.01 | ionproto | about the text colour of tab text in konqueror |
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| 08:15.54 | ionproto | the tab text colour is determinied by the 'standard text colour' |
| 08:16.25 | ionproto | which, i think is something i had figured out a long time ago |
| 08:16.59 | ionproto | which is why i hadn't been using darker colours for window background |
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| 08:32.46 | gordonjcp | hi |
| 08:33.22 | gordonjcp | how do I change the colours for icon labels on the desktop, in particular getting rid of the mid-grey outline? |
| 08:34.43 | culdon | ksendfax is not a debian lenny package. when i download the source and compile, it complains about not finding qt3 but i have qt4 which should be compatible. can anyone help? |
| 08:35.04 | annma | not compatible! |
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| 08:35.32 | annma | if it needs qt3 then you need qt3 packages and kde3 devel packages probably |
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| 08:35.53 | annma | culdon: are you in a kde4 environment then? |
| 08:35.54 | culdon | annma, i would have thought it is a qt4 is a higher version of qt3 and therefore is downward compatible. |
| 08:36.03 | annma | no, not |
| 08:36.12 | culdon | annma, i am in kde3.5. |
| 08:36.44 | annma | so you just need qt devel packages |
| 08:36.51 | annma | you have qt3 if you run kde3 |
| 08:37.08 | annma | install all qt3 packages your distro has |
| 08:37.18 | annma | and kdelibs-devel as well |
| 08:37.25 | culdon | annma, thks, will try. |
| 08:37.32 | Jucato | (which would probably be libqt3-mt-dev and kdelibs4-dev respectively) |
| 08:37.40 | culdon | thks |
| 08:37.45 | Jucato | *probably* |
| 08:37.55 | annma | there might be some other qt3-dev |
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| 08:39.44 | oneforall | wow every time I compile kdebinding nd it gets to python parts. It just eats up mem . 1gb and its dieing |
| 08:40.32 | annma | it eats mem in compiling??? |
| 08:40.38 | annma | how come? |
| 08:40.51 | oneforall | yeah I got an out of mem |
| 08:41.07 | annma | where does it happen? |
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| 08:41.18 | oneforall | dtasrtx to kill prosses to |
| 08:41.30 | annma | ? |
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| 08:41.49 | annma | kdebinding for kde4? |
| 08:41.58 | oneforall | kde 3.5.7 |
| 08:42.03 | Narada | hi all; how can i find a taskbar shortcut i used to have i.e. the parameters to the command simply by looking at the filesystem i.e. ~/.kde ? |
| 08:42.12 | oneforall | darn can't scroll bck far enought |
| 08:42.17 | annma | oneforall: ??? |
| 08:42.25 | oneforall | kills dma on my drive too I see |
| 08:42.45 | annma | I compile kdebindings fine here |
| 08:43.00 | annma | nothing so dramatic happens |
| 08:43.16 | indro | hm, is anyone working on the websvn problem? |
| 08:43.40 | culdon | i have checked that i have both /usr/lib/qt3 and qt4. but i still get: "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!" |
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| 08:44.15 | Jucato | culdon: you need the -dev packages |
| 08:44.22 | annma | culdon: you don't need qt4 for that |
| 08:44.36 | culdon | Jucato, i had checked those two you mentioned earlier, and I have them. |
| 08:44.37 | annma | culdon: list all your qt packages in a pastebin please |
| 08:44.49 | annma | dpkg something should do that for you |
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| 08:45.06 | Jucato | or ask in #debian as well |
| 08:45.14 | indro | dpkg -L |grep qt3 |
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| 08:45.50 | annma | culdon: do: dpkg -L |grep qt in konsole and paste result in a pastebin |
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| 08:46.18 | oneforall | annma I think its because I was sshed into the box too, I;m going to rerun it and see with out me sshed in. I think that was whats I ddi before to get it to compile ok |
| 08:46.31 | annma | ah oneforall |
| 08:46.41 | annma | this cannot happen on normal build |
| 08:47.07 | indro | oops, its dpkg -l | grep qt, that was its installed. |
| 08:47.12 | annma | I built that numerous times |
| 08:47.27 | indro | and apt-cache search qt3 for that what its in repo. |
| 08:47.31 | annma | culdon: dpkg -l | grep qt |
| 08:47.44 | oneforall | yeah no idea . same baic slack build script but for 64bit . few changed but should still work |
| 08:48.01 | annma | either culdon misses packages or it's qt variables point to qt4 |
| 08:48.16 | annma | its even |
| 08:48.30 | oneforall | compiled it a few times allready but just seems when I'm sshed in it kills it |
| 08:49.01 | oneforall | intell D 805 ,1GB DDR 2x412 |
| 08:49.42 | annma | so you ssh also other builds? |
| 08:49.47 | annma | other modules? |
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| 08:53.53 | culdon | When I compile the source for ksendfax, I get: "configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.0.3) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation!". i have libqt3-headers, libqt3-mt and libqt3mt-dev all at 3:3.3.7-7. what else do i need? |
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| 08:54.37 | culdon | btw, why is ksendfax not in lenny? |
| 08:54.52 | indro | culdon: I would try QTDIR=/usr/share/qt3 |
| 08:55.20 | culdon | sorry, i was suppose to post it to #debian. |
| 08:55.37 | Jucato | culdon: is ksendfax not kfax? |
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| 08:56.20 | annma | culdon: either you don't have all qt3 packages or your env vars oint to qt4 |
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| 08:58.47 | Jucato | oint to? :) |
| 08:59.04 | Jucato | only annma makes cute typos :) |
| 09:00.02 | annma | lol |
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| 09:19.21 | Kebianizao | Hello |
| 09:19.34 | Kebianizao | since when is koffice capable of importing pdf? |
| 09:19.53 | Jucato | since I can remember last year? |
| 09:20.20 | Jucato | people in #koffice might know |
| 09:20.36 | Kebianizao | wow, that feature is simple great and worst is that I haven't known till just now |
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| 09:20.45 | Kebianizao | s/simple/simply |
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| 09:38.46 | Kebianizao | ciao |
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| 09:46.50 | Sjord | I want to switch Desktop from a program, how can I do that? |
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| 09:47.52 | Sjord | I.e. switching virtual desktops. |
| 09:48.00 | benJIman_ | dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface switchDesktops <number> |
| 09:48.24 | benJIman_ | or probably better: |
| 09:48.30 | benJIman_ | dcop kwin KWinInterface setCurrentDesktop <number> |
| 09:49.10 | Sjord | That's easy, thank you very much. |
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| 10:11.00 | Keenan3274 | hey okay i just installed a soundblaster audigy soundcard. it was working fine, but when i rebooted it stopped working altogether. so i went to BIOS and disabled the onboard soundcard. now i have audio but it can't be adjusted by gui controls or anything else. it's stuck on max. any suggestions? |
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| 10:12.22 | Keenan3274 | ?? |
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| 10:12.48 | xp_killer | lol |
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| 10:13.06 | xp_killer | restore i guess |
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| 10:46.16 | basti | hi there! with what can i "programm" a little interface where i can insert two variables which are sent to a bash script? thanks! |
| 10:47.41 | Raging_Hog | basti, tell us more specifically what you want to do? |
| 10:48.51 | basti | i have a little bash script which sends text messages. i want a small gui to insert the number and the text. |
| 10:49.07 | Jucato | kdialog? |
| 10:49.50 | basti | i cant get it to work with that, because i dont know how to "save" the variable. but this may result of my whack bash skills |
| 10:50.01 | Jucato | http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Shell_Scripting_with_KDE_Dialogs |
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| 10:53.53 | basti | cant find what i am looking for. i guess i will ask in #bash. but thx anyway |
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| 10:57.32 | Simeon_H | all hail comrade bligh! |
| 10:58.01 | Simeon_H | umm |
| 10:58.04 | Simeon_H | wrong chan |
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| 11:10.05 | oneforall | http://rafb.net/p/qqLXQw77.html |
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| 11:11.13 | dv_ | hello |
| 11:11.25 | dv_ | konsole completely ignores my locale settings here, |
| 11:11.33 | dv_ | and sets LC_ALL and LANG to "POSIX" |
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| 11:11.58 | dv_ | typing "locale" in uxterm displays the correct locale, so my guess is that konsole forces its own setting |
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| 11:12.19 | dv_ | I set the "schema" menu to utf8, doesnt work |
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| 11:19.06 | basti | dv_, debian.de allready told you what to do... |
| 11:19.23 | dv_ | yes and the rest works already |
| 11:19.29 | dv_ | its just konsole that does not wokr |
| 11:19.30 | dv_ | work |
| 11:19.35 | dv_ | all other terminals work |
| 11:20.22 | basti | einstellunge > kodierung |
| 11:20.36 | dv_ | I set the "schema" menu to utf8, doesnt work |
| 11:21.00 | dv_ | err |
| 11:21.03 | dv_ | the "encoding" menu |
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| 11:21.32 | dv_ | ah I'll just uxterm then |
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| 11:39.13 | majiga | heya, just wondering if it's possible to stop the top right hand corner (or any corner, really) from being resizable; |
| 11:39.37 | majiga | when a window is maximised, i want to be able to throw the cursor up at the top right hand corner and not have to worry about over shooting the close button |
| 11:40.04 | majiga | with the crystal window decoration i've come close, but its still not what i'm after |
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| 11:46.06 | Raging_Hog | on debian, when I install kde it works ok. Then I use update-rc.d to remove kdm from init scripts and after that if I start it kde hangs on "initializing system services" |
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| 11:52.26 | swarna | Is there a small iso image of around 10 MB for kde |
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| 11:52.48 | swarna | if its there could somebody give me the link\ |
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| 12:22.26 | fuzzy2007 | i have a problem with sound on kde. whenever i start kde i get this error message and sound doesn't work http://rafb.net/p/9yvWZ276.html |
| 12:23.52 | Mirrakor | fuzzy2007: I'd say that's more a distro related problem - it doesn't find a sound device |
| 12:24.15 | annma | fuzzy2007: you want sound where? |
| 12:24.30 | annma | try not using arts and see if it works |
| 12:24.47 | annma | in kcontrol for example you can set the notifications to use aplay or anyhting else |
| 12:26.05 | fuzzy2007 | where would be that aplay |
| 12:26.46 | annma | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:26.54 | annma | or try xmms |
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| 13:26.29 | Nyle | good morning |
| 13:27.47 | Nyle | majiga: just move the window close button to say... left hand side? |
| 13:27.59 | Nyle | nm |
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| 13:28.34 | Lacrymology | anyone here from israel, or that writes in hebrew or yiddish and knows how to make kde do it? |
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| 13:28.59 | Nyle | we have hebrew stickers for keyboards as well as hebrew keyboards at work |
| 13:29.11 | Nyle | only thing is, my boss doesn't support linux, yet |
| 13:29.26 | Lacrymology | Nyle: nice.. but me sticking some hebrew stickers on my keyboard won't make the computer render the hebrew fonts, now, will it? |
| 13:29.29 | Lacrymology | =) |
| 13:29.34 | Nyle | Lacrymology: yes I know |
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| 13:30.06 | Nyle | I was saying, maybe I can try to figure it out at work and let you know, unless someone else has already done it |
| 13:30.08 | Lacrymology | Nyle: actually, I've already have the stickers on the keyboard |
| 13:30.21 | Nyle | I don't have to do this for you, so try and not be sarcastic. |
| 13:30.22 | Lacrymology | ok, if you figure it out before me, do let me know |
| 13:30.35 | Lacrymology | Nyle: I wasn't.. |
| 13:30.38 | Lacrymology | or I wasn't trying to |
| 13:30.43 | Nyle | ok |
| 13:30.46 | Lacrymology | it was meant to be a joke, sorry |
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| 13:31.18 | Nyle | I will be at work in 2 1/2 hours |
| 13:31.20 | Nyle | :) |
| 13:32.57 | Nyle | ahhhh crap. I had to convert my linux box into a windows box at work so it could be used at a desktop for customers |
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| 13:33.43 | Nyle | Lacrymology: its very easy I think |
| 13:34.09 | Nyle | Lacrymology: go to kcontrol > region and accessebility > Country region and language |
| 13:34.30 | Nyle | on the locate tab, the first one, click install new language, enter root password, and on the language instaler dialog that opens, select hebrew |
| 13:34.35 | Nyle | it will download and install hebrew locale first |
| 13:34.55 | Nyle | then you will click the add language button on the first tab |
| 13:35.12 | Nyle | select other fromt he dropdown, and select Hebrew next |
| 13:35.26 | Nyle | and you will have hebrew |
| 13:35.35 | Nyle | you can also set this as system default using selecct system language |
| 13:36.09 | Nyle | if you restart kde, all applications should be in hebrew |
| 13:36.25 | Lacrymology | Nyle: but I don't want all applications to be in hebrew |
| 13:36.26 | Nyle | you might have to, as these settings only apply to newly opened applications |
| 13:36.32 | Lacrymology | just to be able to type in it |
| 13:36.36 | Nyle | Lacrymology: I don't know how to specifically do all that |
| 13:36.44 | Nyle | Lacrymology: but this should at least get you going in the right direction |
| 13:36.52 | Lacrymology | yes yes |
| 13:36.54 | Lacrymology | thanks |
| 13:36.58 | Lacrymology | I'll look into it |
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| 13:37.41 | Nyle | yw |
| 13:38.09 | Nyle | I can't walk you through it, because I am using windows xp right now |
| 13:38.09 | Nyle | sorry |
| 13:38.58 | Lacrymology | no worries, it looks like what you said was right |
| 13:39.11 | Lacrymology | just missing a "install the yiddish/hebrew language support" |
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| 13:41.01 | Lacrymology | oh, not even |
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| 14:25.12 | appelza | know if anyone has managed to compile konsole (kde4) so it runs on windows? |
| 14:25.16 | appelza | id love that. |
| 14:25.18 | appelza | LOVE |
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| 14:30.17 | ivan | Hi everyone. They say, it's possible to setup resolution switching with hotkeys in xorg.conf. Could anyone tell me how to do it or give some links to read? |
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| 14:32.18 | czester | Hello. Is there any KDE Webcam application similar to gtk camorama? |
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| 14:34.15 | Narishma | czester: what does camorama do ? |
| 14:34.17 | brot | ivan: try ctrl+alt+ + or - |
| 14:34.41 | czester | Narishma: It shows preview of webcam and I can take a shot. |
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| 14:35.03 | Narishma | czester: try this http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/KCam?content=9715 |
| 14:36.47 | czester | Narishma: This is a little bit old. |
| 14:37.26 | czester | Narishma: It also can not take simple shot directly from usb camera |
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| 14:37.55 | Narishma | dunno |
| 14:38.07 | czester | :S |
| 14:38.09 | Narishma | myself I use spcaview |
| 14:38.38 | Narishma | but I don't know if it works with webcams other than scpa ones |
| 14:38.55 | czester | Well, I'll have to stay with camorama ;-) |
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| 15:06.33 | gemidjy | what is the real name of 'pipitas' developer ? |
| 15:07.19 | Sho_ | gemidjy: Kurt Pfeifle |
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| 15:07.42 | gemidjy | Sho_: thanks |
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| 15:14.13 | jpwhiting|workpc | hi all, anyone know how to make dolphin my default file manager? |
| 15:14.20 | jpwhiting | in kde 3.5.7 |
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| 15:34.56 | Xenu | anybody know GNOME? |
| 15:35.15 | jpwhiting | Xenu: try #gnome ;-) |
| 15:35.59 | Xenu | ok thanks! |
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| 15:56.17 | ludan | hi guys |
| 15:56.34 | ludan | i was wondering if there is in kde a mailwatch like the one in xfc4 |
| 15:56.41 | ludan | do you have any clue about it? |
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| 16:02.24 | Sho_ | ludan: There's a couple of mailwatch panel applets and tray apps and such on www.kde-apps.org |
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| 16:02.39 | Sho_ | ludan: And of course KMail can put itself on the tray, too |
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| 16:04.10 | ludan | Sho_: thanks a lot |
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| 16:05.00 | weltbaum | hey dudes |
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| 16:05.26 | weltbaum | need some help with konversation: |
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| 16:05.41 | Sho_ | weltbaum: There's a #konversation, too |
| 16:06.09 | weltbaum | is there a possibility to put in a seperator right between nicks and written text like in xchat: http://gnuwin.epfl.ch/apps/xchat/appImages/screenshot.png ? |
| 16:06.11 | weltbaum | oh |
| 16:06.12 | weltbaum | thx |
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| 16:10.08 | weltbaum | hey dudes |
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| 16:11.56 | weltbaum | is it possibly to change the entrie's width in the window list? they're too short, so all the names oft the running progs are shown only half (woah, bad english, i guess) |
| 16:13.58 | knoeki | weltbaum: can't help you with the question, but the english is fine, except "entrie's", which should be "entries" [/spelling_nazi_mode] |
| 16:14.17 | Tm_T | :) |
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| 16:14.29 | knoeki | ;_) |
| 16:14.59 | Tm_T | knoeki: btw dont use nazi term reclessly |
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| 16:16.04 | knoeki | Tm_T: of course I would not. it's just a figure of speech. :_) |
| 16:16.27 | Tm_T | yes, and also got me hilighted |
| 16:17.57 | MinceR | no spelling for you! |
| 16:18.19 | MinceR | :> |
| 16:18.42 | knoeki | "I has a spelling" |
| 16:18.52 | knoeki | "NOOOOOOOOO, They be steelin' my spelling!" |
| 16:18.54 | knoeki | ;_) |
| 16:19.02 | MinceR | :) |
| 16:19.18 | knoeki | anyways, now that I think of it... I'm currently using kTorrent 2.1... do I first need to remove it in order to successfully use kTorrent 2.2.2, or can I just keep it there so it will update? |
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| 16:19.36 | knoeki | I know, not really KDE related, but since it's a KDE app... |
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| 16:19.48 | knoeki | and there isn't a support channel for ktorrent... |
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| 16:26.12 | xp_killer | Tm_T: how to open the gconf editor from the Applications menu |
| 16:26.24 | xp_killer | where do i go? |
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| 16:27.23 | xp_killer | how to open the gconf editor from the Applications menu |
| 16:27.26 | Tm_T | xp_killer: its not in the menu if youre in KDE |
| 16:27.59 | xp_killer | where? |
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| 16:29.33 | xp_killer | oh its gnome |
| 16:29.51 | ludan | Sho_: the point is that I'm looking for something able to read my ~/Mail dir and notify me about new mail |
| 16:29.59 | ludan | Sho_: is there something like this? |
| 16:30.31 | Sho_ | ludan: I'm bet there's something like that somewhere on www.kde-apps.org |
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| 16:30.39 | Sho_ | *I bet |
| 16:30.52 | ludan | Sho_: i was searching so far :/ |
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| 16:46.54 | nicio | Tm_T: how to keep my browser konqueror for showing me my files only in detail |
| 16:46.56 | nicio | ? |
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| 16:48.45 | lonelysoul | hello all |
| 16:49.11 | lonelysoul | how can I insall unrealircd in FC 7 ? PLEASE |
| 16:50.38 | AlexElliott | Not KDE related, but in any case look there: http://www.unrealircd.com/files/docs/unreal32docs.html |
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| 17:24.26 | EvilPhish | Hello ! |
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| 17:28.19 | DaSkreech | yay! aseigo is in my corner now :) |
| 17:29.18 | neantror | well i start artsd and i get Creating link /home/neant/.kde/socket-neant-pastel.greenwinter , can't create mcop directory then it just exit |
| 17:30.30 | neantror | hello, .. i dont know if im at the right place to ask that question but.. im wondering if anyone else tried to install artsd from the openbsd packages selection (i386) ? i installed it and i have a strange error that i can't understand.. it says can't create mcop directory and just exit.. anyone know about that ? |
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| 17:31.23 | aseigo | arg. wrong channel. =) |
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| 17:31.47 | DaSkreech | :-) |
| 17:32.14 | DaSkreech | aseigo: can I ask about some potentials of plasma in #plasma or is it jsut dev talk? |
| 17:32.31 | aseigo | neantror: artsd tries to create an .mcop dir in your $HOME |
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| 17:33.21 | aseigo | neantror: if it can't do that, it fails .. i don't know why it might be doing that on your system (lack of proper permissions? a screw up in the obsd port?) but that would likely be the issue |
| 17:33.48 | aseigo | neantror: you could try creating the dir yourself as ~/.mcop with 755 perms |
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| 17:38.13 | neantror | ok |
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| 17:39.35 | neantror | it still doesnt work ; ( |
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| 17:44.28 | arash | Any1 else got problem with magnatune streams from Amarok? |
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| 17:49.44 | johannesNeu | hi guys! what's wrong if my kaffeine cannot find any dvb-tv channels?? |
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| 17:53.17 | fkm | I like the idea but would like to see it support GTK windows |
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| 18:05.15 | Pazy | I been told that KDE is coming to Windows. If thats true, does anyone know what that means? |
| 18:05.24 | DaSkreech | Pazy: KDE apps |
| 18:05.25 | MinceR | fkm: iirc there was a separate thing for gtk but i doubt that the two can merge their menubars into one |
| 18:05.32 | DaSkreech | much like some Gnome apps will run on windows |
| 18:05.47 | MinceR | i don't see the point in macos-style menubars anyway :) |
| 18:05.50 | arash | Pazy, that Linux will stopped being used :P |
| 18:06.07 | Pazy | arash: When hell freezes over :D |
| 18:06.18 | oGALAXYo | Pazy: it means that KDE comes to windows :) |
| 18:06.22 | pinotree | MinceR: some people prefer having all the menus in one please (not me, btw) |
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| 18:06.55 | Pazy | Makes more sense if its just the apps. The way ive been reading it somehow the entire KDE was coming. Which made less than no sense. |
| 18:07.20 | pinotree | Pazy: the environment is X11-only |
| 18:07.42 | pinotree | (not because or a strict dependancies, but it would have no sense on eg mac or win) |
| 18:07.42 | Pazy | That means less than nothing as well. |
| 18:07.57 | DaSkreech | pinotree: can't you install X on mac? |
| 18:08.12 | Pazy | If someone could make windows looks like KDE, act like Linux but run Windows software id be happy. |
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| 18:08.32 | pinotree | DaSkreech: it makes no sense providing a kdesktop on macosx, doesn't it? |
| 18:08.37 | oGALAXYo | Pazy: www.winehq.com |
| 18:09.07 | Pazy | I know about wine but its not exactly full proof. Im wishiing on a star here :P |
| 18:09.21 | DaSkreech | Pazy: Error! Logic not found! |
| 18:09.52 | sanguisdex | hi there I am running gnome, how do I get the KIOslaves to get krusader to do sftp? |
| 18:10.24 | MinceR | the entire kde would be nicer imo, since windows has an unusable gui. |
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| 18:10.44 | MinceR | but it's also a huge lot of work. |
| 18:10.58 | Pazy | Thats why im wishing on a star :P |
| 18:11.09 | pinotree | Pazy: what are you looking for, exactly? |
| 18:11.24 | Pazy | At this very moment my glasses. |
| 18:11.34 | pinotree | in here, i mean |
| 18:12.01 | Pazy | Nothing anymore I ask my Q already. Now im wishing for things that will never happen |
| 18:12.12 | pinotree | ... like? |
| 18:12.33 | pinotree | sanguisdex: sftp://user@host ? |
| 18:12.39 | DaSkreech | Windows apps coming in autopackage format |
| 18:12.54 | Pazy | Like somehow to hack Windows too have KDE as Desktop Enviroment, act like Linux but run Windows programs Fully. |
| 18:13.07 | pinotree | nope |
| 18:13.29 | Pazy | Maybe If I was rich I could get it to happen. |
| 18:13.41 | MinceR | you could use some kind of X server under windows and run kde on that (via cygwin or colinux, though i don't know how well those work) |
| 18:13.44 | DaSkreech | Pazy: nope |
| 18:14.25 | Pazy | DaSkreech: Why not? Surely id I was rich I could hire all the best developers and (if I was impossibly rich) influence M$ |
| 18:14.47 | MinceR | you could buy m$ and make them stop. |
| 18:15.08 | DaSkreech | MinceR: He'd have to have the economy of asia |
| 18:15.28 | MinceR | that's a kind of "rich" ;) |
| 18:15.31 | Pazy | I doubt even bush could do that. |
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| 18:15.50 | oGALAXYo | i think there is no need to influence M$ at all.. the same "money wanting people and companies" are already involved into linux related projects. |
| 18:16.01 | MinceR | he could occupy m$ with troops. |
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| 18:16.25 | Pazy | Gates probably has an underground army and choppers and stuff to rescue him though. |
| 18:16.39 | pinotree | Pazy: please, no politics - ok? |
| 18:16.42 | Pazy | Then again the choppers would have Windoze onboard so its just a matter of time before they crash |
| 18:16.51 | DaSkreech | hi annma |
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| 18:17.14 | MinceR | lol |
| 18:17.47 | annma | hi DaSkreech :) |
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| 18:18.28 | DaSkreech | hello :) |
| 18:18.37 | DaSkreech | annma: Do you know where Wendy is? |
| 18:18.49 | annma | is as where she lives? |
| 18:19.04 | annma | or where in IRC? |
| 18:19.26 | DaSkreech | where she lives |
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| 18:19.28 | DaSkreech | >_> |
| 18:19.30 | DaSkreech | <_< |
| 18:19.33 | DaSkreech | no what's up? |
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| 18:19.50 | DaSkreech | I just saw her blogs pop up at akademy and I loved reading her writs |
| 18:19.52 | DaSkreech | then |
| 18:19.55 | DaSkreech | *poof* |
| 18:19.58 | DaSkreech | no Wendy |
| 18:20.07 | annma | she lives in NL |
| 18:20.12 | sanguisdex | pinotree: I get an unsupported protocol message when I try to just enter the sftp:// address in |
| 18:20.29 | pinotree | DaSkreech: (psss... you know she's got a boyfriend already, right?) |
| 18:20.42 | DaSkreech | but she's still working with the KDE team? |
| 18:20.43 | pinotree | sanguisdex: install the kioslaves from kdebase |
| 18:20.47 | DaSkreech | pinotree: Shhhhhhhhhhhh |
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| 18:21.14 | pinotree | DaSkreech: sure she is, for the NL and promo teams |
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| 18:22.14 | DaSkreech | Ok |
| 18:22.21 | DaSkreech | but she doesn't blog anymore? |
| 18:22.28 | pinotree | no idea |
| 18:22.34 | DaSkreech | far as I could tell that blog was put up just for akademy |
| 18:22.38 | annma | DaSkreech: she is part of KDE NL more than KDE as a whole |
| 18:22.51 | DaSkreech | Just hoped she would blog more cause she's hilarious |
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| 18:22.58 | annma | yes |
| 18:23.04 | annma | I also would love that |
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| 18:24.54 | DaSkreech | \o/ |
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| 18:52.14 | sanguisdex | is there a way to add "merge" to the options menu when I am coping or moving files? |
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| 18:54.56 | impulze | hi guys :) is there a chance to get the external taskbar below the main panel? |
| 18:55.06 | impulze | so that both are arranged at the bottom of my desktop |
| 18:55.37 | logixoul | impulze: yeah, move all applets from the external taskbar to the main panel and vice versa, I guess |
| 18:55.55 | impulze | eeeh |
| 18:56.05 | impulze | there are no applets in the taskbar |
| 18:56.08 | impulze | it's a taskbar :P |
| 18:56.27 | logixoul | oh right! |
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| 18:56.51 | impulze | hehe |
| 18:56.59 | impulze | any ideas? |
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| 18:58.08 | logixoul | impulze: yeah. if you add a "panel" rather than an external taskbar, you can place anything in there. |
| 18:58.27 | logixoul | impulze: so put all stuff in there except the taskbar which goes to Main Panel |
| 18:58.58 | impulze | ugh :P |
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| 18:59.06 | impulze | i see |
| 18:59.12 | logixoul | impulze: fear not, it gets better with KDE4 ;) |
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| 18:59.28 | logixoul | or "should" |
| 18:59.28 | impulze | :) i can't wait to put that burner on my hard disk :P |
| 18:59.35 | impulze | but thanks for the tip for now |
| 18:59.40 | logixoul | np |
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| 19:27.29 | agliodbs | kpdf question: in the past I was able to use the top/bottom page label option |
| 19:27.38 | agliodbs | to print a filename on the pdf file |
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| 19:27.49 | agliodbs | but now it doesnt' seem to be printing anything |
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| 19:40.55 | MrHeavy | If I'm using KDM, what's the recommended way to have it spawn the KDE session from ssh-agent? |
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| 19:43.48 | thiago_home | MrHeavy: editing your session scripts |
| 19:45.22 | MrHeavy | thiago: I'm playing with pam_ssh right now, lemme try that and get back |
| 19:45.26 | MrHeavy | Back in a bit |
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| 19:50.39 | DaSkreech | it's just too two tone |
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| 20:10.06 | Matyo | Pls click on him afterwards you may quit: |
| 20:10.06 | Matyo | http://www.nicefaces.eu/?link=select&id=1896&voks=10 |
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| 20:10.33 | logixoul | pinotree: kick please? |
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| 20:13.44 | DaSkreech | HA ha :) |
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| 20:20.36 | Mirrakor | how can I change a topic with Konversation, via the editbox? |
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| 20:20.46 | Mirrakor | something like /mode #room topic "bla bla"? |
| 20:21.09 | Sho_ | /topic <channel> <text> |
| 20:21.11 | pinotree | Mirrakor: /topic text |
| 20:21.18 | Sho_ | Or you can use the dialog |
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| 20:24.51 | Mirrakor | yup, but I'd prefer the mouseless option :) |
| 20:25.35 | Mirrakor | btw. a autocomplete option via tab for channel names would be great too ;) |
| 20:25.47 | DaSkreech | Mirrakor: /topic <new text> |
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| 20:26.42 | Mirrakor | yeah, the last thing was just a general suggestion ;) |
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| 20:28.04 | DaSkreech | Mirrakor: Would take too bloodly long |
| 20:28.12 | Mirrakor | what? |
| 20:29.00 | logixoul | DaSkreech: only the first time I guess. then the list will be cached. but adding the feature to konvi might bring down Freenode, I guess :) |
| 20:29.03 | DaSkreech | It would take too bloody long |
| 20:29.12 | DaSkreech | logixoul: It would also be out of date |
| 20:29.55 | logixoul | I was thinking a cache with a short lifetime |
| 20:30.03 | logixoul | but yeah, it's not worth it |
| 20:30.16 | DaSkreech | Yup seriously not worth it |
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| 20:32.42 | DaSkreech | What's the chan for PIM stuff again? |
| 20:32.46 | DaSkreech | #kdepim ? |
| 20:32.49 | logixoul | #kontact |
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| 20:33.53 | LnxSlck | does kde bring any tool to program in c# ? |
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| 20:34.31 | logixoul | LnxSlck: iirc there are C# bindings for Qt (qyoto or kimono or something), not so sure about KDE |
| 20:35.02 | LnxSlck | logixoul, where you thinking of Mono ? |
| 20:35.09 | logixoul | hm, maybe |
| 20:35.15 | LnxSlck | ok |
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| 20:36.27 | logixoul | LnxSlck: hm no, turns out I was right. qyoto is C# qt bindings, kimono is C# kde bindings. |
| 20:36.35 | logixoul | http://cougarpc.net/qyoto/ |
| 20:37.03 | LnxSlck | logixoul, what's the difference between both ? qt or kde bindings ? |
| 20:37.09 | logixoul | yep |
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| 20:38.52 | Bonkers | is there any way to use Hyper as a modifier for a KDE shortcut? |
| 20:38.56 | LnxSlck | logixoul, off topic.. that webpage fails on firefox |
| 20:39.16 | benJIman | Works in konqueror. |
| 20:39.29 | logixoul | benJIman: not here |
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| 20:39.41 | benJIman | Works in firefox too. |
| 20:39.52 | benJIman | logixoul: What's wrong with it in either? |
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| 20:41.12 | LnxSlck | benJIman, the text on the main page "overwrites" the text on the left margin |
| 20:41.15 | logixoul | benJIman: with konq the "Welcome to the Qyoto / Kimono Project" column overflows onto the right black column, while the "Here are Richard Dale..." text is darkgrey on black - surely not intended. |
| 20:41.24 | logixoul | benJIman: same in ff |
| 20:41.32 | LnxSlck | logixoul, that's it |
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| 20:42.01 | logixoul | and the "who's online" thing has a scrollbar |
| 20:42.04 | benJIman | logixoul: fine here in both browsers, but if you use an excessively large font size it does what you say. |
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| 20:42.50 | logixoul | benJIman: firefox's default -- also the smallest I can easily read. |
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| 20:43.09 | skull | guys about kde new style. how to eneble it. I see only simple default kde menu. its 3.5kde on 3.3mini SL |
| 20:43.25 | pinotree | "new style"? |
| 20:43.28 | benJIman | http://bw.uwcs.co.uk/qyoto-konq.png what's wrong with that? |
| 20:43.30 | logixoul | skull: Oxygen is only for the next generation - KDE4 |
| 20:44.09 | LnxSlck | benJIman, is on suse :) |
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| 20:44.34 | logixoul | benJIman: hurts my eyes, on an LCD screen |
| 20:44.42 | logixoul | I only use AA text |
| 20:44.53 | benJIman | AA text looks terrible on TFT imo |
| 20:45.00 | benJIman | Unreadable at small sizes. |
| 20:45.02 | benJIman | You have to have it HUGE |
| 20:45.07 | benJIman | or it's just a big blur |
| 20:45.19 | logixoul | if you call 12pt huge, I guess |
| 20:45.36 | logixoul | or even 9 |
| 20:45.53 | logixoul | this of course assumes you don't use a shitty font like Liberation |
| 20:45.59 | benJIman | You can't easily read 1mm high text at 80cm with AA |
| 20:46.11 | benJIman | No strain at all without AA. |
| 20:46.40 | benJIman | On CRTs it's ok as they do high resolution. |
| 20:46.48 | benJIman | But on TFTs there simply arn't enough pixels to do AA properly. |
| 20:47.13 | oneforall | darn stuck at Making install in kjsembed |
| 20:47.53 | logixoul | AA doesn't work on 1mm, yeah. Which is why I use larger fonts. 17" screen contains enough text for me. |
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| 20:54.08 | Ardarandir_ | is there a possibility to start a program with its windows automatically not having a frame? |
| 20:54.38 | Ardarandir_ | this frame with the X-Button for closing the window |
| 20:55.14 | logixoul | Ardarandir_: not easily, but `kstart--fullscreen kcalc` will start kcalc fullscreen |
| 20:55.22 | logixoul | oh wait |
| 20:55.28 | logixoul | actually you can |
| 20:55.34 | Ardarandir_ | yes? how? |
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| 20:56.09 | logixoul | rightclick titlebar->advanced->special app settings->preferences->no border->apply initially->check->ok |
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| 20:56.30 | Ardarandir_ | exactly, this i was searching for - but being executed from start on |
| 20:56.33 | reivax | and to made it automatically, a little script using dcop ? |
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| 20:56.45 | logixoul | Ardarandir_: yep, it's remembered |
| 20:56.46 | Ardarandir_ | but however, fullscreen is even better |
| 20:56.57 | Ardarandir_ | logixoul: oh, it isnt |
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| 20:57.13 | Ardarandir_ | logixoul: maybe because ktorrent crashes at close |
| 20:57.20 | Ardarandir_ | almost everytime |
| 20:57.27 | Ardarandir_ | i will try the fullscreen |
| 20:58.52 | Ardarandir_ | and i it possible, too, to have a programm been started on another desktop? |
| 20:58.52 | oneforall | is it normal for it to sit there for a few hrs ? |
| 20:58.53 | Ardarandir_ | you know, these desktop you can switch between... |
| 20:58.53 | oneforall | hd led is on steady |
| 20:58.53 | Ardarandir_ | i am not sure bout the english names of things in kde ;) |
| 20:59.05 | Ardarandir_ | oneforall: what does sit where? |
| 20:59.12 | oneforall | darn stuck at Making install in kjsembed |
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| 20:59.32 | Ardarandir_ | hm. i dont know. but i guess its not :) |
| 21:00.05 | Ardarandir_ | workspaces. i think it is called workspaces. is it possible to have a pogram starting on a certain workspace? |
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| 21:01.56 | reivax | What I usually do for this kind of things is a little script which starts the application then emulates the human action through DCOP |
| 21:02.01 | reivax | It may be possible |
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| 21:02.09 | reivax | We just have to >work< at it |
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| 21:02.32 | reivax | I'm currently looking for the "no decoration" thing |
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| 21:04.55 | Ardarandir_ | so there is no option for starting in a certain workspace yet? |
| 21:05.39 | reivax | try your_app --help-qt and your_app --help-kde |
| 21:06.15 | reivax | As far as I know, everything which is not listed by those helps must be done with something like dcop |
| 21:06.20 | Ardarandir_ | reivax: thats what i usually did, and there i found nothing |
| 21:06.28 | Ardarandir_ | this "kstart" appt i great! |
| 21:06.40 | Ardarandir_ | there is a command for starting on a certain desktop, too |
| 21:07.16 | reivax | indeed, this seems cool |
| 21:07.50 | reivax | --tosystray could replace my good old ksystraycmd --window '^.*Konqueror$' |
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| 21:08.44 | Ardarandir_ | reivax: exactly what i do :) |
| 21:09.38 | Ardarandir_ | but i added "--ownicon --icon /usr/share/icons/hicolor/32x32/apps/konqueror.png" |
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| 21:09.55 | DaSkreech | Ardarandir_: I think there is. At least a dcop way to move them around |
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| 21:10.12 | DaSkreech | Ardarandir_: Oh wait you found something :) |
| 21:10.12 | Ardarandir_ | DaSkreech: kstart got an option for that- |
| 21:10.14 | reivax | Ardarandir_ > why ? You didn't like the changing icon ? |
| 21:10.15 | Ardarandir_ | yep |
| 21:10.16 | Ardarandir_ | :) |
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| 21:10.29 | Ardarandir_ | reivax: no, i didnt like it |
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| 21:10.38 | reivax | ok :) |
| 21:10.55 | TheGentleman | I need some advice about KAddressBook. Is this the rigth place ? |
| 21:11.17 | Ardarandir_ | i think i like kstart :) |
| 21:11.25 | reivax | Is there an interactive version of ksystraycmd ? you know, you launch it, you click on the window you want to put in the systray and it does all the magic ? |
| 21:11.55 | Ardarandir_ | reivax: i only used it with the kmenu. but try out "alltray" or "kdocker" if you want that |
| 21:12.09 | reivax | thx, I'll try |
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| 21:14.40 | DaSkreech | TheGentleman: Might as well start |
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| 21:15.21 | reivax | alltray depends on gconf so I'll avoid it ; however kdocker is perfect |
| 21:15.25 | TheGentleman | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.28 | reivax | thanks for the advice |
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| 21:16.21 | Ardarandir_ | reivax: welcome :) |
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| 21:16.49 | DaSkreech | TheGentleman: Kool :) |
| 21:17.00 | TheGentleman | lol |
| 21:17.17 | DaSkreech | TheGentleman: I persoanlly don't use Kontact at all so I won't be able to help you hang around a bit and you might get some help |
| 21:17.26 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:17.51 | TheGentleman | thanks DaSkreech |
| 21:20.55 | DaSkreech | randic |
| 21:21.01 | DaSkreech | +t |
| 21:21.22 | idem | (it's hard to find a non-registered pseudo) |
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| 21:24.50 | DaSkreech | troy!!! |
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| 21:25.33 | troy | DaSkreech: yeah? |
| 21:25.42 | DaSkreech | I forget now :) |
| 21:25.56 | troy | DaSkreech: d'oh! |
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| 21:26.25 | DaSkreech | troy: Oh! Not a real KDE app? |
| 21:27.04 | troy | DaSkreech: that wasn't my opinion - just something I heard a few devels (who like to complain) say :P |
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| 21:27.42 | DaSkreech | I know :-P I read it. I'm just kinda shocked that a pillar isn't an app |
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| 21:27.52 | DaSkreech | How did they justify that? |
| 21:28.28 | troy | well, it doesn't reuse many of the existing KDE widgets, and therefor does not 'feel' like the rest of KDE... |
| 21:29.32 | DaSkreech | troy: yeah it should have like a kate Kpart or something built into it |
| 21:29.46 | idem | Which application are you talking about ? |
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| 21:30.03 | DaSkreech | Plasma |
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| 21:30.10 | troy | DaSkreech: nah, they were referring to the fact taht you cannot embed a KListView and such and have to reimplement all of these widgets for QGraphicsView first |
| 21:30.25 | idem | ok |
| 21:30.32 | DaSkreech | Ah |
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| 21:32.46 | justeco | Hi. |
| 21:33.00 | idem | Hi justeco |
| 21:33.34 | justeco | Kate seems to have a lot of creative indent modes, most of which I haven never seen the like. But it appears to be missing a mode to indent Lisp-like languages. Am I missing something, or is it really not there? |
| 21:34.09 | justeco | I've really been enjoying Kate for Ruby and C++ stuff, but I went to do some Common Lisp the other day and didn't see this. |
| 21:34.14 | MinceR | maybe they're not meant to be indented :> |
| 21:35.34 | justeco | Yes, they are, and creating a mode to do this should be fairly easy given that all you have to do is cound parens... Vim, emacs, etc, have identical behavior for indenting Lisp. |
| 21:37.31 | justeco | Well, if there really isn't one, maybe I will take a crack at it... |
| 21:37.55 | justeco | Is a KDE4 port in the works? |
| 21:38.11 | justeco | is there an IRC channel for KDE developers? |
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| 21:38.40 | DaSkreech | #kde4-devel |
| 21:39.18 | justeco | excellent... |
| 21:39.21 | justeco | Many thanks |
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| 21:49.44 | rickb|server | Could fonts prevent a software program to execute, or to execute incorrectly? |
| 21:50.15 | MinceR | well, it's all about counting parens ;) |
| 21:50.58 | rickb|server | When kde loads all it does is show all the characters that should be letters as little blocks. [] like that |
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| 21:55.10 | sayers | in kopete how can I change blahblahmsn (E-mail Address Not Verified) it's quite annoying. |
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| 21:58.42 | Sebboh | Hi. Is there a theme that I can select that has absolutely no animation? I'm connecting to my kde desktop over the network... ..And I notice that your topic wants me to mention that I'm using Debian. I'm also using the commercial NoMachine (nx) server and client, for what it's worth. |
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| 21:59.34 | pinotree | sayers: that's not a kopete problem - you have to verify your msn email |
| 22:00.03 | pinotree | Sebboh: which kind of animations? |
| 22:00.12 | MinceR | Sebboh: appearance/style/effects has some such options |
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| 22:01.04 | sayers | pinotree: well it worked with Pidgin? |
| 22:01.28 | pinotree | sure it really did? |
| 22:01.36 | MinceR | with the same account? |
| 22:01.47 | Sebboh | MinceR: tried that. I don't know what it turned off, but, when I hover over buttons, a box is drawn around them. When I move my mouse over the kde button, a huge animated tool tip pops up.. etc. |
| 22:01.57 | Sebboh | pinotree: that kind ^^ |
| 22:02.02 | MinceR | i see |
| 22:02.11 | sayers | pinotree: yes it did with Pidgin, it's just a local display not a nick for the world. |
| 22:02.17 | MinceR | the box depends on your style |
| 22:02.53 | pinotree | sayers: well, your nick for the world is always that "email address not verified" |
| 22:03.01 | MinceR | panel tooltips can be turned off in configure panel/appearance |
| 22:03.34 | sayers | pinotree: thats their problem. |
| 22:03.45 | pinotree | sayers: well, _yours_ |
| 22:03.59 | sayers | pinotree: now it is yes |
| 22:04.21 | pinotree | it always was, just pidgin is idiot enough to fool you |
| 22:04.23 | Sebboh | hm. Something is wrong with my kde. I selected the 'sunshine' theme, but my window decorations did not change. Well, some of them did. |
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| 22:09.11 | Sebboh | ok I configured some stuff and it's a bit faster for remote desktop now. And, I have a question! Can I create a separate "profile" for my remote connections? I like some fancy graphics when I am actually in front of the computer.. But I don't want to have a separate user. I need to use the same application workspaces when I am logged in via remote. |
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| 22:09.34 | pinotree | i think you could use a theme |
| 22:10.27 | Sebboh | And have kde load a certain them if I am logging in from remote? How can it know that I am logging in from remote? |
| 22:10.35 | Sebboh | them=theme |
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| 23:02.42 | renatopsy | olah... |
| 23:02.51 | renatopsy | alguem do brasil?. |
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| 23:05.27 | d347hm4n | !paste |
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| 23:06.23 | rickb | Does anyone know of a good Virtualization software that runs non gui? |
| 23:06.32 | rickb | besides openvz or qemu |
| 23:06.50 | pinotree | rickb: wrong channel - try ##linux |
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| 23:07.17 | pinotree | d347hm4n: see topic, no need to summon bots or whatever |
| 23:07.43 | d347hm4n | pinotree: sorry was looking for #kubuntu |
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| 23:12.39 | rixxon | Hi. Is decibel basically a daemon serving multiple telepathy connection managers? |
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| 23:14.41 | DaSkreech_ | troy: Heehee |
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| 23:23.00 | DaSkreech | troy: KDE on the n800 :) |
| 23:24.01 | Skrot- | Oh yes, almost made me want one |
| 23:24.20 | DaSkreech | A N800? |
| 23:24.24 | Skrot- | mhm |
| 23:24.43 | Skrot- | That means KDE runs on (at least) two embedded systems.. N770/N800 and that mobile intel platform |
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| 23:27.13 | rixxon | Skrot-: and qtopia? |
| 23:27.30 | Skrot- | What about qtopia? =) |
| 23:27.41 | rixxon | i've seen kde4 run on it |
| 23:27.50 | Skrot- | You've seen KDE 4 run on qtopia? |
| 23:27.50 | rixxon | or is any of those you mentioned qtopia maybe |
| 23:27.55 | rixxon | yes |
| 23:28.05 | Skrot- | qtopia is the mobile version of qt, not hardware |
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| 23:28.18 | rixxon | ah, i missunderstood you. sorry. |
| 23:28.21 | Skrot- | or rather embedded version =) |
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| 23:29.58 | Skrot- | What did you mean, rixxon? |
| 23:30.06 | BigMac | Anyone have a recommendation for an ftp client for kde |
| 23:30.12 | BigMac | I used gftp in gnome |
| 23:30.23 | Skrot- | ftp://? Can be used in almost any KDE program :) |
| 23:30.41 | BigMac | Skrot-: I am talking about with I gui |
| 23:31.02 | Skrot- | hm? I gui? |
| 23:31.11 | rixxon | kftpgrab or what it was called again |
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| 23:31.15 | tosky | BigMac: kftpgrabber http://www.kftp.org/ |
| 23:31.21 | rixxon | BigMac: well konqueror is a gui, no? |
| 23:31.36 | BigMac | thanks tosky |
| 23:31.47 | Skrot- | You can use it in the "open file" dialogs in most of KDE's programs as well |
| 23:31.54 | Skrot- | To open remote files |
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| 23:32.21 | rixxon | o_O |
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| 23:32.40 | GeezerGuru | I use Krusader for a dual panel ftp client |
| 23:33.05 | rixxon | So can someone explain Decibel, does it provide telepathy connection managers? |
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| 23:34.14 | Skrot- | I never got the grasps of decibel, but I think it aims to support a easy API for communication (voip, im, etc) for KDE |
| 23:34.42 | rixxon | yea but I don't quite get how it differs from i.e. tapioca, or if it is any similar to empathy, etc |
| 23:34.55 | Skrot- | Me neither :) |
| 23:34.57 | DaSkreech | rixxon: it's a KDE implementation of Tapioca which is an API implementation of telepathy |
| 23:35.05 | rixxon | my guess is it is to conversationing what mpd is to music playing |
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| 23:35.27 | DaSkreech | rixxon: more like Phonon |
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| 23:35.43 | rixxon | DaSkreech: but isn't tapioca a set of libraries and decibel a daemon? |
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| 23:37.13 | rixxon | DaSkreech: no, not more like phonon. I was refering to the daemon/client setup... |
| 23:37.46 | rixxon | mpd is a daemon that has a music collection, clients can then tell it to play something and create playlists etc |
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| 23:42.05 | DaSkreech | Hmm |
| 23:42.07 | DaSkreech | Maybe |
| 23:43.01 | rixxon | oh well, guess there will be better documentation in the future |
| 23:43.17 | Skrot- | You might want to try #decibel |
| 23:43.34 | DaSkreech | rixxon: there is a decibel web page |
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| 23:43.49 | rixxon | yea, but it doesn't say much |
| 23:43.56 | idem | this -> goTo(bed); |
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| 23:44.07 | Skrot- | syntax error! |
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