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| 00:11.50 | HombreMagique | hi all |
| 00:12.20 | HombreMagique | is there a kde panel applet that displays cpu frequency? |
| 00:13.19 | x_link | You mean the CPU usage? |
| 00:13.29 | qupada | the 'system guard' applet will |
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| 00:14.08 | qupada | you just have to choose 'cpu0>clock' from ksysguard for it to display |
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| 00:16.38 | HombreMagique | i mean an applet that displays current clock frequency and that can be placed on the panel |
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| 00:17.14 | qupada | yes, i know what you mean, there is one and it's part of ksysguard |
| 00:17.58 | HombreMagique | but i can't find it to add in the panel :) |
| 00:18.56 | qupada | distro? |
| 00:19.02 | HombreMagique | gentoo |
| 00:19.13 | HombreMagique | maybe you mean kima? |
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| 00:19.39 | qupada | nope |
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| 00:19.52 | qupada | i imagine you just haven't installed ksysguard |
| 00:20.36 | HombreMagique | yes i have |
| 00:20.47 | HombreMagique | but's too big for me |
| 00:21.00 | HombreMagique | i mean canvas size |
| 00:21.54 | qupada | you're missing the point. along with the full size system monitor application, it should have installed a panel applet you can use to display any of the same pieces of data |
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| 00:24.23 | HombreMagique | qupada: understood now |
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| 00:43.06 | cruiseoveride | Jucato, hey man |
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| 00:49.30 | cody | Anyone here? |
| 00:49.54 | cruiseoveride | booh, you got scared!! |
| 00:49.59 | cody | ! |
| 00:50.04 | cody | Java runtime? |
| 00:50.05 | wolsni | a few people, I think |
| 00:50.59 | wolsni | cody: you'll have to pose your question in the form of a complete sentence ;) |
| 00:51.56 | cruiseoveride | yeah, that *usually* helps |
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| 00:54.39 | sayers | Hello |
| 00:54.46 | cruiseoveride | wolsni, i think your suggestion was too complicated for him to handle |
| 00:55.09 | sayers | I've rebooted KDE yet it still will not let me type, unless I am in failsafe |
| 00:55.20 | wolsni | oh, did we scare him away? |
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| 00:57.28 | sayers | Any way to fix this? |
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| 00:58.40 | wolsni | sayers: did you do anything in particular that caused your keyboard to stop working? |
| 00:58.46 | sayers | no it just stopped |
| 00:59.30 | wolsni | and so you rebooted your system and it still doesn't work |
| 00:59.39 | sayers | exactly |
| 00:59.50 | wolsni | what "failsafe" are you talking about? |
| 01:00.04 | sayers | failsafe KDE, it runs no scripts or anything |
| 01:00.40 | kucrut | then you're not a _real_ kde user yet =p |
| 01:01.01 | sayers | I think I am going to go back to Debian, Kubuntu just is blarg |
| 01:01.33 | sayers | cya :) |
| 01:01.33 | wolsni | mkay, have fun with that |
| 01:02.03 | wolsni | how does one go about starting KDE in failsafe mode then? |
| 01:02.35 | wolsni | should it be a session available in the KDM menu? |
| 01:04.06 | cruiseoveride | i think its a suse thing |
| 01:04.19 | cruiseoveride | redhat has a failsafe mode too i think |
| 01:04.30 | cruiseoveride | i have no idea, what it does |
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| 01:09.35 | wolsni | well, the failsafe login on fedora system has nothing to do with KDE |
| 01:09.42 | wolsni | *systems |
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| 01:10.57 | cruiseoveride | i though i remember seeing a KDE-Failsafe, just like the Gnome-Failsafe |
| 01:11.00 | cruiseoveride | i might be mistaken |
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| 01:39.21 | Simeon_H | lol rofl I'm using GNOME on a live CD |
| 01:39.28 | Simeon_H | my eyes! |
| 01:39.57 | bsundsrud | heresy. |
| 01:40.10 | Simeon_H | well... it isn't as bad as I seem to remember it |
| 01:40.15 | Simeon_H | it's .... tolerable |
| 01:40.21 | Simeon_H | at least for a little while :P |
| 01:40.28 | bsundsrud | nah, gnome the desktop is fine |
| 01:40.39 | bsundsrud | its when you have to use apps, where i find a KDE disc |
| 01:40.44 | Simeon_H | it's ok... but it's no KDE |
| 01:41.21 | Simeon_H | har har |
| 01:41.23 | Simeon_H | :> |
| 01:41.37 | Simeon_H | this is X-Chat 2.4.4! |
| 01:41.49 | Simeon_H | the OS on my hard disk uses 2.8.2 |
| 01:41.51 | Simeon_H | :/ |
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| 01:41.57 | ploo | 2.8.2! |
| 01:42.07 | ploo | gnome! |
| 01:42.08 | ploo | heh |
| 01:42.23 | bsundsrud | Konvi 1.0.1! |
| 01:42.32 | Simeon_H | any way. that's more than I can stand :P |
| 01:42.34 | Simeon_H | bbs |
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| 01:52.56 | Simeon_H | ok now I'm back |
| 01:53.05 | Simeon_H | so I can run around leik a moron |
| 01:53.16 | Simeon_H | THE END IS NIGH!!! AAAAAHHH!! |
| 01:53.17 | bsundsrud | woo |
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| 02:09.59 | A_b | Where did the little roving eye ball in the lizard go ? I upgraded Kde on opensuse 10.2 and lost the roving eyeball in the suse menu icon on the kicker ! |
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| 02:10.30 | A_b | is that part of kde or suse addition? |
| 02:10.58 | A_b | sad - can i down grade :/ |
| 02:11.00 | Jucato | it's suse's |
| 02:11.07 | A_b | okay thanks |
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| 02:58.31 | livinded | how can I set the depress time for my keyboard in KDE? |
| 02:59.11 | livinded | my friedn was using my box earlier and now for some reason I need to hold down keys a full second before it goes |
| 02:59.17 | wolsni | livinded: you mean the time to hold a key before it starts repeating? |
| 02:59.28 | livinded | no, the hold time for a single key |
| 02:59.34 | Jucato | KControl -> Peripherals -> Keyboard ? |
| 02:59.39 | livinded | I know where the repeating is |
| 02:59.44 | livinded | Jucato: no, it's not there |
| 03:00.15 | wolsni | well, if KDE had a setting for it I imagine that's where it would be |
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| 03:08.49 | klobster | what is the cli equivalent command to Kcontrol -> Sound System "restart sound system"? |
| 03:09.18 | SAS_Spidey01 | that would probably depend on your sound system klobster |
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| 03:10.04 | klobster | SAS_Spidey01 it seems to restart all of them (it has an autodetect selection). |
| 03:10.11 | SAS_Spidey01 | If all you need to do is restart artsd you can probably treat it like any other daemon |
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| 03:19.27 | klobster | SAS_Spidey01 I tried that but it still is hangs, there has to be another daemon it's restarting. Is there a way for me to open kcontrol -> sound system in a such a way that I can log it's output? |
| 03:20.24 | SAS_Spidey01 | running it from a console would allow you to see any warning/error messages it might spit but I doubt you'd find what you need |
| 03:23.04 | wolsni | and there's strace, but that might still make it hard to find what you need |
| 03:24.18 | klobster | strace? |
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| 03:24.33 | SAS_Spidey01 | a portable process tracer |
| 03:24.54 | wolsni | it shows system calls and such made by a process |
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| 03:25.29 | wolsni | you could proably use it to find what's being killed by kcontrol |
| 03:25.57 | wolsni | or what's causing your problem app to hang, for that matter |
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| 03:29.09 | klobster | I just tried it in console, but I got no error, it just went back to a prompt |
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| 03:30.54 | wolsni | klobster: read the man page, you should have gotten tons of output |
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| 03:32.24 | klobster | no I just tried strace, and logging the output for forensic sifting |
| 03:32.33 | klobster | thank you for the pointer. |
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| 03:45.47 | klobster | damn it detaches before i get to where I need to be. hmm and I cant redirect the output to file? |
| 03:48.21 | wolsni | klobster: strace prints to stderr by default |
| 03:48.41 | klobster | I realized that right as I typed it. |
| 03:48.51 | wolsni | it also has a -o option to specify a file for the output |
| 03:50.59 | klobster | oh really? I just used good ol' &> |
| 03:51.48 | wolsni | well, normal redirection's kind of hairy since the output from the program could be intermingled |
| 03:52.32 | klobster | BTW the process detaches after it loads the window, any other ideas? All I am trying to do is restart the sound system and it locks up. I know whats causing it, but I am trying to learn why |
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| 03:54.58 | wolsni | klobster: check the man page, i think there's a way to attach to an already running process |
| 03:55.37 | klobster | will do, thanks |
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| 04:32.36 | Jack333 | can i change the default midi driver to timidity |
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| 04:43.45 | okidd | hi kde guys |
| 04:43.49 | okidd | maby you all can halp |
| 04:44.59 | okidd | does anyone know how to make an hp expresscard tv tuner work? |
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| 04:46.23 | SAS_Spidey01 | That would best be askined in #insert_your_distro_here() |
| 04:46.43 | okidd | sabayon linux |
| 04:46.54 | okidd | on an hp dv9074cl model |
| 04:46.57 | okidd | if that helps =) |
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| 04:47.46 | SAS_Spidey01 | #sabayon people might know |
| 04:48.02 | rajkt | How to add all C files to a kdevelop project? |
| 04:48.56 | padde | i wonder why all sabayon people ask for support for about anything in #kde ... if #kde would be the sabayon support channel, it would probably be called #ssc or just #sabayon ;) |
| 04:49.05 | icwiener | rajkt: Do not cross post... I think there will be an answer in #kdevelop soon. |
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| 04:49.55 | SAS_Spidey01 | I didn't know kdevelop had its on #chan lol |
| 04:50.21 | icwiener | padde: The sabayon version of konversation has the kde channel opened by pefault. That was an unlucky coincidence. Hopefully that will be decreasing. |
| 04:50.24 | Jack333 | isnt there anyway to change the default midi driver or module |
| 04:50.32 | Jack333 | my default midi thru port 0 doesnt work |
| 04:50.35 | Jack333 | i have to use timidity |
| 04:51.07 | padde | icwiener: i see |
| 04:51.29 | padde | now i know why people actually use internet explorer |
| 04:51.53 | padde | if they even post to some random channel that happens to be opened by default in their IRC program ;) |
| 04:52.19 | icwiener | padde: hehe, nice relation. ;) |
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| 04:53.19 | icwiener | padde: But I think the Konversation icon on the desctop is titles Support or something, what makes it the obvious choise when having problems. |
| 04:53.34 | padde | omg |
| 04:53.59 | padde | where are those sabayon devs located? i think i should pay them a visit |
| 04:54.30 | icwiener | And going to bed should be the obvious choice when being barely able to type. ;) |
| 04:55.18 | padde | icwiener: gnite |
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| 04:55.57 | icwiener | padde: It was a bug in Konversation that led to this. All other distributions modify the konversationrc file what works fine. Sabayon used the command line parameter, what seemed to be erratic in 1.0 version. |
| 04:56.45 | padde | i see |
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| 05:10.48 | rajkt | icwiener: I still have not got any response in #kdevelop for my question... how log to wait before asking here? |
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| 05:14.28 | icwiener | rajkt: You got no response here either, so I think noone her knows... But the day just begins in europe, so I think if you ask again in #kdevelop in an hour or so, there will be an answer (many kde folks seem to be from europe). Besides, that kind of question is not offTopic here, so feel free to ask here. But do not ask the same question in several channels at a time. Could be considered rude. |
| 05:14.31 | Jack333 | does kde have a place for starting up things? |
| 05:14.41 | Jack333 | like i want to start timidty with some arguments at boot up |
| 05:14.55 | Kyral | Jack333: look in /etc/rc.local |
| 05:14.57 | icwiener | ~/.kde/Autostart |
| 05:17.10 | apt | hmm... /.kde/autostart is empty. |
| 05:17.13 | Kyral | He said at boot up :P |
| 05:17.14 | Jack333 | i cant figure out how to make a good startup script :( |
| 05:17.14 | Jack333 | if someone could show me how to make one :( |
| 05:17.14 | Kyral | Its a shell script |
| 05:17.14 | Kyral | www.tldp.org |
| 05:17.14 | icwiener | Well, System bootup would be /etc/init.d/ as well on some distos. :) |
| 05:17.14 | Kyral | find the Advanced Shell Scripting guide |
| 05:17.15 | Kyral | icwiener: Most have /etc/rc.local for customs |
| 05:17.15 | Kyral | and like I said, bedtime |
| 05:17.15 | Jack333 | thanks |
| 05:17.27 | wolsni | or the beginner's one, if you're new to bash |
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| 05:32.46 | monzie | hi all |
| 05:32.52 | Jucato | hi monzie! |
| 05:33.01 | monzie | i want to use my caps lock as a control |
| 05:33.07 | monzie | how do i do that with KDE/ |
| 05:33.23 | SAS_Spidey01 | Do it from X11 and KDE should follow |
| 05:33.24 | monzie | Jucato: hey Jucato.. are dots and arrows coming in your dreams ? |
| 05:33.35 | monzie | SAS_Spidey01: how do i do that? |
| 05:33.49 | Jucato | monzie: hehe not yet. but & and * are... :/ |
| 05:34.02 | monzie | Jucato: lol |
| 05:34.13 | qupada | monzie: kcontrol > regional & accessibility > keyboard layout > xkb options > make capslock an additional control |
| 05:34.45 | Jucato | KDE *Jucato; // declares variable Jucato as a pointer to an object of type KDE |
| 05:35.09 | qupada | monzie: i have that option enabled, best way i could find to stop the capslock key doing anything |
| 05:35.15 | bsundsrud | g++: error: null pointer reference Jucato |
| 05:35.17 | SAS_Spidey01 | monzie, use xmodmap and a file with the commands to do it |
| 05:35.20 | monzie | qupada: what is the compose key? |
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| 05:35.42 | Jucato | lol bsundsrud :) |
| 05:35.56 | SAS_Spidey01 | in my case I have a file dot in ~/ that I feed into xmodmap from a script in ~/.kde/env/ |
| 05:36.08 | qupada | monzie: the key for making characters like é |
| 05:36.18 | monzie | qupada: oh |
| 05:36.32 | monzie | qupada: any other *interesting* keys i should know about :) ? |
| 05:36.44 | monzie | SAS_Spidey01: ok |
| 05:36.45 | SAS_Spidey01 | isn't the compose key a Macintosh thing ? |
| 05:37.10 | qupada | monzie: don't think so |
| 05:37.22 | monzie | win key = super ? |
| 05:37.28 | monzie | alt = meta ? |
| 05:37.35 | Jucato | er no |
| 05:37.56 | Jucato | hm... alt != meta afaik |
| 05:38.01 | Jucato | oh well. :) |
| 05:38.01 | monzie | Jucato: oh ok |
| 05:38.28 | SAS_Spidey01 | alt/esc generally == meta as far as emacs is concerned on most PC's I think |
| 05:38.56 | Jucato | hm.. yeah maybe Alt == Meta... just not sure |
| 05:39.08 | monzie | hmm |
| 05:39.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | Meta is not a 'defined' key afaik but as far as emacs cares |
| 05:39.45 | SAS_Spidey01 | Alt and Escape usually are accepted as 'Meta' by GNU Emacs |
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| 05:42.25 | SAS_Spidey01 | hmm, just realized Meta+Backspace is not bound in my favorite emacsen |
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| 05:45.35 | rajkt | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:48.10 | davascript_home | why not just compile the kernel source your self |
| 05:48.31 | davascript_home | i use 2.6.20 |
| 05:49.03 | SAS_Spidey01 | davascript_home, would some one really import Linux into kdevelop just to compile it !? |
| 05:50.08 | davascript_home | right sorry i am tired |
| 05:51.33 | SAS_Spidey01 | crap its nearly 0700Z and I havn't slept.... |
| 05:53.48 | benJIman | SAS_Spidey01: no, it's nearly 0600Z |
| 05:54.05 | benJIman | Nearly 0700 in london. |
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| 05:55.21 | SAS_Spidey01 | benJIman, thats what I get for not setting the clock applet to match my shell !!!!!!!!! |
| 05:55.26 | rajkt | in Konversation suddenly up and down arrow keys dont navigate to my previous msgs in the text box.. any idea? |
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| 05:57.49 | Jucato | rajkt: does Ctrl+Up/Down work? |
| 05:58.07 | rajkt | nope |
| 05:58.24 | rajkt | Jucato: it used to work till 2 ,3 days ago.. |
| 05:58.33 | rajkt | I dont know what I did wrong.. |
| 05:58.46 | Jucato | hm... try going to Settings -> COnfigure Konversation -> Behavior -> General and check if "Input box expands with text" is enabled. |
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| 05:59.47 | rajkt | Jucato: yes, I enabled it 2 days ago.. is that causing problem? |
| 06:00.04 | Jucato | yes. but Ctrl+Up or Ctrl+Down should work |
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| 06:00.40 | Jucato | when in multi-line mode, Ctrl+Up/Down should go through your previous messages,just like Up/Down would |
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| 06:09.08 | bsundsrud | god why is it when i ask a question in #fedora they assume i'm a stupid moron who fucked his machine beyond recognition and should not be let near the toaster, let alone a PC? |
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| 06:11.02 | SAS_Spidey01 | =S |
| 06:11.20 | bsundsrud | i love the distro but hate the community. |
| 06:11.51 | Jucato | isn't there a #fedora-kde ? |
| 06:12.04 | bsundsrud | nope. |
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| 06:12.16 | aseigo | hey, toasters are complex things. |
| 06:12.20 | bsundsrud | and it wasnt even a KDE question, although that would have got them going. |
| 06:12.25 | aseigo | (no joke =) |
| 06:12.28 | bsundsrud | haha |
| 06:12.38 | bsundsrud | sorry, i guess i picked a touchy subject :P |
| 06:12.39 | aseigo | so i'm doing better with my computers than my toaster. |
| 06:12.42 | SAS_Spidey01 | and toasters can run NetBSD lol |
| 06:12.47 | aseigo | yeah, you insensitive clod! ;) |
| 06:13.37 | aseigo | humerously, until i finally threw it out yesterday, i'd get up and throw some bread in it almost every morning and stand there trying to push the lever down and make it turn on |
| 06:14.09 | aseigo | then eventually my slowly awakening synapses would crackle to life and remind me that it had gone out in a zap and puff of smoke a few days prior |
| 06:14.13 | aseigo | i hate waking up. |
| 06:14.14 | aseigo | =) |
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| 06:14.20 | bsundsrud | haha |
| 06:15.25 | Chani | bsundsrud: this is why I have a habit of asking my distro-neutral questions in gentoo. even though I haven't booted gentoo since my desktop got put into storage |
| 06:16.05 | bsundsrud | good thinking... proprietary drivers seem to just piss off #fedora |
| 06:16.35 | Chani | aseigo: ouch. well, if you were in BC I could've given you mine.. err.. apart from my not being in BC myself |
| 06:16.48 | Chani | my toaster's probably in storage too now |
| 06:17.10 | SAS_Spidey01 | you 2 are making me HUNGRY ! |
| 06:17.22 | Chani | although... it should be easy to buy a toaster.. right? |
| 06:17.48 | Chani | I wouldn't know. I made my mum give me her old one. simple and reliable, no weird bagel-settings or anything |
| 06:19.00 | Jucato | :) |
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| 06:24.17 | aseigo | Chani: yeah, toasters are easy to get. i just tend to put such things off. buying mundane things like toasters annoys me =) |
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| 06:24.52 | Chani | I still need to buy vinegar. |
| 06:25.37 | Chani | wait, I'm supposed to be going out and meeting people.. ehh... but someone's always later than me |
| 06:26.17 | bsundsrud | oh god i have abad feeling im about to hose my system. |
| 06:27.58 | bsundsrud | cmon lady luck |
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| 06:29.06 | bsundsrud | so whats everyone doing tonight? |
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| 06:30.35 | Chani | I get to go to another campus because our university's president is coming here to... show off or something. |
| 06:30.48 | Chani | I don't even know if we get free food out of it |
| 06:31.19 | Chani | fscking people... leaving just before I hit enter... |
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| 06:47.47 | rajkt | Is there anyway to apply a patch and see the patched lines highlighted in kdevelop? |
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| 07:11.21 | Chani | canadians might be interested in this: http://www.scc.ca/en/news_events/pr/pr_details_220.shtml |
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| 07:13.55 | annma | crap! |
| 07:14.05 | annma | ODF is the new thing |
| 07:15.20 | bsundsrud | wait Chani, which is that referring to? OOXML or ODF? |
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| 07:16.16 | chovy | my screensaver seems to not engage. |
| 07:18.07 | annma | bsundsrud: isn't Open XML a Microsoft so-called open standard? |
| 07:18.08 | chovy | the test works, but it never kicks even, have it @ 1 min, high priority, and even the hot corner does not do anything. |
| 07:18.26 | bsundsrud | annma: yes it is |
| 07:18.34 | annma | crap as I said |
| 07:18.42 | bsundsrud | yeah |
| 07:18.57 | annma | those governments don't know anything and let them guide by $$$ |
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| 07:19.26 | annma | the one who lobbies the more with the more $$$ gets the market |
| 07:19.29 | chovy | annma: if you were in charge, wouldn't you take a free lunch? ... or 2, or 3.... |
| 07:19.35 | annma | no |
| 07:19.40 | annma | I don't think so |
| 07:20.16 | annma | probably you get corrupted |
| 07:20.32 | annma | that's why we need people like Stallman |
| 07:20.57 | chovy | stallman is like jesus. |
| 07:21.03 | annma | actually I like lunches when I don't cook them |
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| 07:21.15 | deallocated | hey guys |
| 07:21.21 | deallocated | could use some help |
| 07:21.22 | annma | so yeah a free lunch might do the trick |
| 07:21.27 | deallocated | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:21.36 | deallocated | lspci -> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G70 [GeForce Go 7600] (rev a1) |
| 07:21.38 | deallocated | any idea?? |
| 07:21.42 | annma | deallocated: ask your distro channel please |
| 07:21.44 | chovy | can someone help me figure out why my screensaver won't kick in? |
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| 07:22.23 | deallocated | annma, they don't know, though I'd try out another channel, no harm done |
| 07:22.34 | annma | deallocated: what distro is that? |
| 07:22.41 | deallocated | annma, sabayon |
| 07:22.53 | annma | oh I should have guessed |
| 07:22.55 | deallocated | annma, will try gentoo's |
| 07:23.04 | deallocated | :) |
| 07:23.06 | annma | yes please |
| 07:23.08 | annma | !!! |
| 07:23.19 | deallocated | ok then, thansk :) |
| 07:24.00 | rajkt | Is there any KDE app for creating and applying patches? |
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| 07:24.47 | annma | did you try kdiff3? |
| 07:26.19 | rajkt | annma: just downloaded it.. can it genrate patch files? |
| 07:26.33 | annma | just try it and see by yourself |
| 07:26.45 | annma | I use svn diff >myPatch.patch |
| 07:27.01 | annma | and patch -i myPatch.patch |
| 07:27.43 | annma | kdiff3 is the best kde tool for patches so if it does not do what you expect then issue a bug report |
| 07:28.56 | annma | hi Jucato :))) |
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| 07:29.03 | Jucato | hi annma! :) |
| 07:29.10 | annma | how did it finish with this zac guy yesterday? |
| 07:29.16 | Jucato | it finally worked |
| 07:29.25 | Jucato | although I didn't quite get how :) |
| 07:30.19 | Jucato | well... brb... |
| 07:30.58 | annma | :) see you |
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| 07:34.20 | nikolavp | :PpP |
| 07:35.21 | annma | :) |
| 07:35.38 | annma | how about you come here and does the laundry? |
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| 07:38.24 | Chani | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:39.27 | Chani | bsundsrud, annma: yes, it is about the evil MS format. there's a forum for comments if you have some useful data to add. I do hope hte comments are actually listened to. |
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| 07:56.11 | mikkael | any sane way to use compiz with kde ? |
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| 08:00.03 | annma | mikkael: distro? |
| 08:00.11 | mikkael | kubuntu 7.04 with kde 3.5.7 |
| 08:00.30 | annma | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=127090 |
| 08:00.52 | annma | this is more a distro question |
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| 08:01.07 | annma | and google is quicker than asking here |
| 08:01.23 | mikkael | yes i did, but always it brings gnome stuff |
| 08:01.42 | mikkael | my xorg is ready for compiz and i want to do it on aiglx/nvidia not xgl |
| 08:02.42 | annma | thanks Jucato :) |
| 08:02.55 | tanamo | try this compiz --replace decoration rotate.... & |
| 08:02.58 | Jucato | just came back in time eh :) |
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| 08:03.03 | Jucato | hi tanamo! |
| 08:03.46 | tanamo | oi pre :) |
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| 08:04.11 | Jucato | tanamo: were you able to find an answer last night? you were asking about how to build KDE with hal support right? |
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| 08:04.47 | mikkael | how do you change settigs of compiz in kde ? plain file edits ? |
| 08:05.03 | PhilRod | mikkael: in the same way you change compiz settings in not-KDE |
| 08:05.05 | tanamo | Jucato: yep, i just recently finished it, and now it's working... |
| 08:05.15 | Jucato | tanamo: kool :) |
| 08:05.15 | annma | PhilRod: ;) I was about to say the same |
| 08:05.35 | mikkael | there is gnome compiz manager, but hey i doubt its good to mix my kde with gnome stuff..am i wrong with this :) ?= |
| 08:05.51 | Jucato | we just have to wait for a few more months... and maybe all these compiz/beryl Q's will stop... or be replaced by kwin_composite Q's :D |
| 08:06.25 | annma | try to look at kde-apps.org in case there's a kompiz manager |
| 08:06.26 | Jucato | heheh |
| 08:06.34 | mikkael | thats a good idae := |
| 08:06.40 | PhilRod | but there's no reason not to run gnome apps under kde, and vice versa |
| 08:06.44 | PhilRod | lots of people do it |
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| 08:07.13 | Jucato | and if your computer can handle the load of compiz, it can sure handle adding a few gnome stuff :) |
| 08:07.20 | Jucato | btw, hi PhilRod! |
| 08:07.32 | annma | yes, hi PhilRod :) |
| 08:07.35 | Jucato | hehe |
| 08:08.05 | PhilRod | I really should go to work |
| 08:08.06 | annma | mikkael: irc://#compiz@irc.freenode.net |
| 08:08.25 | mikkael | im there and in desktop effects, but they sleep :) |
| 08:08.31 | mikkael | *ubuntu-effects i mean |
| 08:08.43 | Jucato | yes... some people do need to sleep at one point or another :) |
| 08:08.45 | annma | ok so go read a bit more from google links |
| 08:09.00 | mikkael | i will read on mixing kde and gnome stuff :P |
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| 08:09.26 | mikkael | maybe ill install hole *ubuntu-desktop for fun, its only 800mb download :/ |
| 08:09.26 | annma | compiz.org docs might help |
| 08:09.38 | Jucato | O.o |
| 08:09.50 | mikkael | those are outdated as noted on the site |
| 08:09.52 | Jucato | ubuntu-desktop just for compiz? Krazy... wicKed... |
| 08:10.10 | annma | all that for some sick-making effects |
| 08:10.11 | tanamo | mikkael: you can run compiz without gnome |
| 08:10.25 | mikkael | tanamo yes but i definitly need a gui to set it up |
| 08:10.27 | Jucato | just need a bit of gconf |
| 08:10.42 | Jucato | PhilRod: well not really. beryl is/was a fork of compiz. |
| 08:10.48 | Jucato | but the two have "merged" up (in a way) |
| 08:10.51 | mikkael | allright so i install all compiz-kde stuff and whats needed + gandalfn compiz manager thing ? |
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| 08:11.12 | Jucato | mikkael: you don't need *all* of gnome to get the compiz GUI stuff. |
| 08:11.15 | annma | mikkael: your distro should help you, KDE has nothing to do with it |
| 08:11.21 | annma | KDE uses a window manager |
| 08:11.33 | annma | any compliant window manager |
| 08:11.53 | annma | KDE does stuff "above" winodw manager |
| 08:12.07 | mikkael | sorry for bothering you |
| 08:12.33 | Jucato | although when kwin_composite comes around... |
| 08:12.56 | mikkael | this suse *preview* of kde 4 wasnt impressive at all :P |
| 08:13.21 | mikkael | nothing worked, but i know its alpha and so |
| 08:13.24 | Jucato | it's supposed to be alpha. it wasn't supposed to be impressive at all |
| 08:13.29 | tanamo | Jucato: is kwin_composite available in the kde4 live cd? |
| 08:13.32 | Jucato | and it didn't have kwin_composite yet |
| 08:13.38 | Jucato | tanamo: afaik no |
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| 08:13.53 | mikkael | oh i didnt know that, i wanted to enable it, but kcontrol didnt work :) |
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| 08:14.12 | Jucato | nor was it supposed to (yet) |
| 08:14.14 | Jucato | kcontrol I mean |
| 08:14.33 | mikkael | allright |
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| 08:15.50 | annma | mikkael: we do our best for kde4 and it was an Alpha1 |
| 08:16.12 | annma | no need to discourage us |
| 08:16.15 | mikkael | didnt want to be negative about it |
| 08:16.22 | annma | we do it at our free time |
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| 08:16.32 | mikkael | i know kde 4 will be a blast |
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| 08:17.05 | Jucato | the problem with the live cd is that it somehow makes people think that kde 4 alpha is already usable, stable, breath taking, etc... |
| 08:17.30 | tanamo | cant wait for the next commit-digest... |
| 08:17.31 | Jucato | yeah! and waiting for more aseigo posts :) |
| 08:17.39 | mikkael | nope i dont think so, its written down clearly: alpha |
| 08:17.55 | annma | so why your comment mikkael? |
| 08:18.23 | annma | you did nto seem to have unserstood that it's alpha |
| 08:18.23 | Jucato | mikkael: it's not just you :) |
| 08:18.42 | annma | I need to see if I can run konvi from kde3 within kde4 |
| 08:18.48 | mikkael | which comment are you talking about ? "not impressive" ? |
| 08:19.13 | annma | [08:12] <mikkael> this suse *preview* of kde 4 wasnt impressive at all :P |
| 08:19.13 | annma | [08:13] <mikkael> nothing worked, but i know its alpha and so |
| 08:19.26 | Jucato | annma: afaik yes you can, at least way back in feb :D |
| 08:19.48 | annma | Jucato: yes I'll try it |
| 08:19.53 | mikkael | speaking of kwin's composite (which i didnt see cause it wasnt on that cd) |
| 08:20.30 | Jucato | (gee, Chani is fast :D) |
| 08:21.02 | annma | not sure it's merged yet mikkael |
| 08:21.15 | annma | stuff will stabilize during summer |
| 08:21.29 | Jucato | summer's ending over here :D |
| 08:21.41 | annma | oh right |
| 08:21.51 | Jucato | Shirakawasuna: oh please do :) |
| 08:21.54 | annma | it's always summer somewhere |
| 08:22.08 | annma | was 30°C here yesterday |
| 08:22.15 | Jucato | Antarctica probably has the longest summers... |
| 08:22.33 | Jucato | annma: that's slightly normal here :) |
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| 08:23.18 | Jucato | roflmao!! I just used my desktop keyboard to type into my laptop :/ |
| 08:23.18 | Jucato | g'night aseigo!!! :) |
| 08:23.18 | annma | night? |
| 08:23.20 | annma | is it 2:23? |
| 08:23.51 | aseigo | yes |
| 08:23.51 | Jucato | very late night for him :) |
| 08:23.51 | annma | :) good night then |
| 08:24.38 | Jucato | hehe :) |
| 08:25.05 | annma | my husband will fly here today |
| 08:25.12 | aseigo | Jucato: i don't think it is. i'd love to be able to sleep in until 10 or 11 every morning. sadly p. isn't old enough to get himself off to school yet ;) |
| 08:25.20 | aseigo | annma: how long has he been away? |
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| 08:25.37 | PhilOut | ok, homework problem fo someone with some time to spare: find all the KMail 3.5-branch changes between April 1st and April 14th |
| 08:25.39 | annma | he'll fly today aseigo and be back next Tuesday |
| 08:25.44 | Jucato | heh I'll stick to my 12mn - 6am then... :/ |
| 08:25.47 | PhilOut | one of them stops imap filtering from working... |
| 08:25.48 | mikkael | oh that gnome compiz manager is aweful, and its so much slower than beryl (and back in my gnome days compiz was faster than beryl). but i realized im sitting in the wrong channel for this :) |
| 08:25.50 | aseigo | ah, he's leaving today... work? |
| 08:26.01 | annma | no, packing our daughter's stuff |
| 08:26.14 | annma | it's cheaper than doing it with a removal company |
| 08:26.20 | aseigo | mikkael: compiz is as much gnome as beryl is. |
| 08:26.22 | annma | they ask $4000 |
| 08:26.28 | PhilOut | now I'm really gone |
| 08:26.35 | annma | work well PhilOut |
| 08:27.16 | aseigo | mikkael: the only thing that relates compiz to gnome is (a) marketing trype from nat & co and (b) while developing behind closed doors they patched gnome's pager, etc to the changes in assumptions compiz brings so gnome was adapted to it first (e.g. workspaces vs desktops) |
| 08:27.26 | aseigo | heh.. oh well |
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| 08:27.56 | Jucato | <aseigo> mikkael: the only thing that relates compiz to gnome is (a) marketing trype from nat & co and (b) while developing behind closed doors they patched gnome's pager, etc to the changes in assumptions compiz brings so gnome was adapted to it first (e.g. workspaces vs desktops) |
| 08:28.00 | Jucato | :) |
| 08:28.02 | Jucato | you missed that |
| 08:28.27 | aseigo | mikkael: and recently compiz and beryl have unforked and are back to being the same project |
| 08:28.35 | mikkael | yeah had to restart X cause kwin wasnt there and i had no cursor in alt + f2 |
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| 08:29.04 | aseigo | mikkael: in any case, it really depends on the video driver you have... |
| 08:29.38 | mikkael | does compiz vsync by default ? i always have to disable that to get decent fps |
| 08:29.41 | aseigo | anyways.. bed is calling.. au revoir...... |
| 08:29.50 | mikkael | have a good night |
| 08:29.54 | annma | :) night! |
| 08:30.06 | Jucato | oyasumi nasai! |
| 08:30.17 | Jucato | (japanese) |
| 08:30.26 | Jucato | Magandang gabi! (Filipino) |
| 08:31.14 | mikkael | may i ask you some questions about kde, just out of interest or should i ask the google ? |
| 08:31.23 | Jucato | kde questions are good :) |
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| 08:32.47 | mikkael | he i bet you hear this one alot |
| 08:33.03 | mikkael | why will dolphin replace konqueror by default ? |
| 08:33.11 | Jucato | ah yeah... that question |
| 08:33.12 | mikkael | not replace but be the standard |
| 08:34.03 | Jucato | Dolphin offered a clean, easy to use interface that Konqueror didn't have, for one. it's focus was more on usability than anything else |
| 08:34.29 | mikkael | but it lacks so much things i use very often |
| 08:34.30 | Jucato | Dolphin also had a cleaner base code (I've heard) from Konqueror, so it was easier to add unto Dolphin than to trim down Konqueror |
| 08:34.39 | Jucato | then use Konqueror. simple as that |
| 08:35.19 | Jucato | and finally, no one was working on Konqueror... someone was actively working on Dolphin. |
| 08:35.33 | Jucato | well not "no one" probably... but not actively maintained... |
| 08:35.49 | mikkael | yeah im fine with that. i got another question: i want to make some changes in my "root" kde desktop, only design/fonts/colors, to make it look a bit different from my normal gui.. |
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| 08:36.16 | Jucato | run kcontrol (or system settings) as root. (kdesu systemsettings) |
| 08:36.36 | Jucato | take note though that you will always be using the same window decoration. but you can change everything else |
| 08:36.42 | mikkael | you know when launching an application with kdesu it should have another design as my normal one to increase my concentration :) |
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| 08:36.58 | mikkael | cool, that easy, thanks |
| 08:38.36 | mikkael | last one: the panel, where the kmenu, kicker, etc sit..: everytime i add a skin to it, there is a 1 pixel grey line on top, i dont like that :) |
| 08:39.24 | Jucato | you'll have to live with that afaik |
| 08:43.40 | mikkael | there is the screenshot :) -> http://www.divshare.com/image/full/730647-81b |
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| 08:44.13 | mikkael | is this a known problem, if not ill add it to kde 4 wishlist :) |
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| 08:55.55 | heath_ | have you guys seen the kore suite on kde-look? |
| 08:55.56 | heath_ | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Kore?content=54701 |
| 08:56.04 | heath_ | i'd love to get it |
| 08:56.49 | heath_ | but whenever i'm told by a prompt that the txt download is binary |
| 08:57.32 | mikkael | wow that looks great |
| 08:57.39 | heath_ | s\whenever |
| 08:57.41 | heath_ | i know |
| 08:57.59 | heath_ | ly. |
| 08:58.02 | heath_ | ... |
| 08:58.04 | heath_ | :P |
| 08:58.37 | mikkael | well another bookmark for boring times :P |
| 08:59.22 | heath_ | ? |
| 08:59.50 | mikkael | i bookmarded this kdelook page, so i can try it if im bored.. |
| 09:00.10 | mikkael | allright this get OT :) see you |
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| 09:11.56 | gardo | im having problems transfering files over 4 gig w/ konqueror |
| 09:12.15 | gardo | always stops the transfer at 4 gig and spits out errors |
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| 09:12.30 | gardo | anyone know a workaround for this? |
| 09:12.37 | malv | how do I get Kdes taskbar to show only what's on the currently selected desktop? |
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| 09:14.26 | Chani | gardo: transferring to/from where over what protocol? |
| 09:14.28 | tanamo | kcontrol->desktop->taskbar |
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| 09:15.36 | gardo | Chani: hd to hd transfer |
| 09:15.44 | gardo | using konqueror |
| 09:16.33 | Chani | huh |
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| 09:16.39 | Chani | what filesystem? |
| 09:16.51 | gardo | Chani: finally figured everything |
| 09:16.58 | malv | tanamo: thanks, I didn't see it on there. With it being all the way at the top and all. |
| 09:17.06 | gardo | im trying to transfer to a usb disk w/ vfat fs |
| 09:17.09 | gardo | damn! |
| 09:17.12 | Chani | ahhh |
| 09:17.31 | Chani | guess you'll have to split the file in two |
| 09:18.02 | Chani | or stick an ext2 partition on your usb disk or something :) |
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| 09:28.51 | maestro | hello, my whole kde is in english.. but twinkle is starting in german.. |
| 09:29.32 | maestro | how can i change the language? |
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| 09:31.15 | icwiener | maestro: twinkle's language or kde ones? |
| 09:31.44 | maestro | all programs are in english but only twinkle and kvirc are starting in german |
| 09:32.09 | maestro | kde language is already in english |
| 09:32.59 | icwiener | maestro: So those two probably read the LC_* environment variables. |
| 09:33.25 | maestro | do u know which ones? |
| 09:34.08 | icwiener | maestro: No, I do not know those two apps. But you can see the LC_* vars with the "locale" command. |
| 09:34.32 | maestro | icwiener: yes i get it with locale -v |
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| 09:37.10 | maestro | icwiener: i have changed them in /etc/environment, but no change.. |
| 09:37.33 | icwiener | maestro: Did you relogin? |
| 09:37.58 | maestro | i have started a bash and run ". /etc/environment" too.. |
| 09:38.28 | icwiener | maestro: Does "locale -v" show the new settings? |
| 09:38.51 | maestro | icwiener: no |
| 09:39.36 | icwiener | maestro: Then relogin. Maybe that helps. |
| 09:40.18 | maestro | icwiener: yes may be.. thanks for ur help, i will relogin now. |
| 09:40.27 | icwiener | good luck |
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| 09:42.27 | funkyou | hi there |
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| 09:43.17 | funkyou | question: does kdemultimedia depend on nas? i get this when building it: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -laudio |
| 09:44.26 | icwiener | funkyou: You have to install libaudio-dev or similar. |
| 09:45.54 | funkyou | i am on arch linux. there is only libaudiofile available and nas seems to provide -laudio |
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| 09:47.43 | icwiener | -laudio is libaudio. -l is the compiler switch for libraries. Maybe the config.log gives you more information of what is needed. |
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| 09:50.18 | funkyou | building artbuilder in kdemultimedia breaks with /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -laudio... but when i install nas, i can compile it... i'll take a look into the config.log |
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| 10:09.41 | rajkt | kdevelop marks this line form kernel as error "void fastcall lru_cache_add_active(struct page *page)".. why? |
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| 10:12.18 | Darrien | Is there any way to get Konqueror to close tabs on middle-click or automatically add the "http://www." and ".com" to URLs on control-enter similar to the way $POPULAR_BROWSER does? I'm ashamed to say that I've grown so attached to these features that web browsing doesn't feel the same without them. |
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| 10:13.23 | funkyou | ok, libaudio is a part of nas and i have found the solution, my stupidity ;) doing make -f admin/Makefile.common without having nas installed did the trick |
| 10:13.51 | logixoul | Darrien: are you using kubuntu? |
| 10:14.01 | logixoul | nevermind |
| 10:14.06 | logixoul | Darrien: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Hidden%20configuration |
| 10:14.19 | Jucato | but only for the first "request" |
| 10:15.33 | logixoul | yep |
| 10:16.12 | logixoul | the www.com thing... rings a bell too... |
| 10:16.42 | Jucato | although it kinda presumes that all website begin with www. and end with .com... |
| 10:17.09 | Darrien | logixoul: Thanks. |
| 10:17.09 | logixoul | nope, just accelerates getting to the majority of them (which do) |
| 10:17.15 | logixoul | np |
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| 10:17.43 | logixoul | Darrien: for one thing, when you enter blahblah in konq's address bar, the dropdown menu that appears contains http://www.blahblah |
| 10:17.50 | logixoul | Darrien: no .com tho |
| 10:18.06 | logixoul | brb |
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| 10:23.06 | logixoul | re |
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| 10:24.08 | logixoul | Darrien: it is possible to write for example "w blahblah" and be sent to http://www.blahblah.com - would that interest ya? |
| 10:24.26 | Darrien | logixoul: Sure |
| 10:24.51 | logixoul | Darrien: settings->configure konq->web shortcuts |
| 10:25.11 | logixoul | Darrien: try to do it on your own there and ask in case of problems :) tis fun |
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| 10:25.22 | Darrien | logixoul: Will do |
| 10:25.22 | heath_ | http://www.ubuntux.org/mini-me --- how'd (s)he manage to curve the kicker menu? aaaaannd the gradient toolbar!!?? man, hope to can get my hands on it. |
| 10:25.57 | logixoul | heath_: probably using domino |
| 10:26.06 | logixoul | s/probably// |
| 10:26.21 | heath_ | i've got everything looking like that 'cept for for those two things |
| 10:26.32 | logixoul | and the "gradient toolbar"... I don't see no toolbars in there ;) |
| 10:26.41 | logixoul | you mean kicker? |
| 10:26.51 | logixoul | (the panel) |
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| 10:27.51 | heath_ | yeees. |
| 10:28.01 | heath_ | the panel :) |
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| 10:28.36 | logixoul | well, it's unbelievably easy to make yourself a glossy kicker background in photoshop and such, but if you don't want the trouble, look for it in kde-look.org |
| 10:28.59 | logixoul | (or in microsoft's vista customer experience pack 4.0 or whatever) |
| 10:29.06 | Jucato | it's just a kicker background image |
| 10:29.10 | logixoul | yep |
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| 10:30.40 | qupada | i have a kicker background image. it is a 1x1 pixel png image, coloured white. yay for monochrome taskbar |
| 10:31.08 | logixoul | ;) |
| 10:31.57 | logixoul | I like the default better tho... does a very good job at creating the "docked" feeling for the panel |
| 10:32.01 | Jucato | I don't have a kicker background image. yay for fake transparency! :) |
| 10:32.10 | logixoul | plain white would feel like a text field :) |
| 10:32.12 | Jucato | er translucency I mean |
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| 10:33.59 | logixoul | real kicker transparency with beryl is also neat :) |
| 10:34.24 | logixoul | (for opacity>75%) |
| 10:35.19 | logixoul | ahh... I can't help it. I'm getting Domino again :p |
| 10:36.20 | Darrien | Hmm, it seems that it doesn't like using backslash as a shortcut key but I guess that's to be expected. Other than that I'm pretty much set. Thanks. |
| 10:36.40 | logixoul | np =) |
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| 10:38.30 | logixoul | (what? no domino debs? hehe) |
| 10:38.40 | rajkt | How to do remote debugging in kdevelop? |
| 10:38.44 | litb_ | domino rules |
| 10:38.50 | heath_ | only need the curved edges for the kicker menu now! |
| 10:39.00 | logixoul | rajkt: please ask in #kdevelop or #kde-devel |
| 10:39.13 | logixoul | heath_: you need to use the domino widgetstyle |
| 10:39.25 | heath_ | i am using it. |
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| 10:40.06 | logixoul | look in the options |
| 10:40.13 | heath_ | domino style*, i've not a clue what you mean by widgetstyle. |
| 10:40.40 | logixoul | right, style |
| 10:41.09 | logixoul | I call them widgetstyles to avoid confusion with "themes" and "schemes" |
| 10:42.58 | Pensacola | is there a way to import kopete contacts into kontact? |
| 10:44.30 | JohnFlux | Pensacola: you do it from kopete |
| 10:44.53 | Pensacola | ah found it |
| 10:44.53 | Pensacola | thx |
| 10:44.59 | Pensacola | been looking a long time for that ;) |
| 10:45.11 | JohnFlux | Pensacola: konversation also supports it :-) |
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| 10:45.29 | JohnFlux | Pensacola: then from kmail you can from an email if that person is online in kopete/konversation :-) |
| 10:45.42 | Pensacola | sweet |
| 10:45.49 | Pensacola | I love the complete integration of apps in kde |
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| 10:47.50 | logixoul | Sho_: hey, have a look at this http://www.warst.com/images/uploads/2007-05-25/yakbug6cde.png |
| 10:48.15 | logixoul | Sho_: happens almost every time I slide Yakuake down. several retries fix it. |
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| 10:49.16 | heath_ | oh well, i've got most of the effects, maybe i need to restart kde. |
| 10:49.27 | logixoul | Sho_: it might've begun happening when I switched to kubuntu, I'm not sure |
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| 10:51.37 | Sho_ | logixoul: Using what window and composition manager? |
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| 10:51.45 | logixoul | kwin, no composition |
| 10:51.49 | logixoul | weird... this time no matter how much I retry, it remains broken. but shrinking the width from 100% to 50% fixes it |
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| 10:53.50 | logixoul | (wow, I didn't realize 50% width yakuake looks so good until now :) |
| 10:53.58 | Sho_ | moin Jucato |
| 10:54.20 | Sho_ | logixoul: Perhaps a graphics driver problem or somesuch |
| 10:54.25 | Sho_ | logixoul: Try 2.8-beta1 for good measure |
| 10:56.08 | logixoul | well this is 2.8-beta1 :) |
| 10:56.08 | logixoul | I'll report to Kubuntu then, they may know about drivers |
| 10:56.08 | logixoul | thanks |
| 10:56.48 | rajkt | Can I read yahoo mail with kmail? |
| 10:57.04 | logixoul | if it supports POP3 or IMAP, yes |
| 10:57.23 | logixoul | check yahoo's documentation to see |
| 10:57.29 | rajkt | I think it supports IMAP.. |
| 10:57.56 | Jucato | yahoo doesn't support POP3 for the free accounts |
| 10:59.01 | logixoul | it does, unless you live in the US |
| 10:59.30 | logixoul | however, free accounts don't support SMPT, which makes it kinda pointless |
| 10:59.33 | logixoul | just get gmail =) |
| 11:01.30 | Sho_ | logixoul: Unsurprisingly Kubuntu applies multiple patches to the Konsolepart, so who knows ... though I did test 2.8-beta1 in Feisty and Breezy virtual machines and it worked fine |
| 11:01.46 | logixoul | right... |
| 11:02.34 | Sho_ | GMail doesn't have IMAP |
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| 11:04.44 | logixoul | Sho_: it has POP3 tho. who needs IMAP? :) |
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| 11:07.20 | Sho_ | logixoul: I stopped using POP when I got a laptop -- when using multiple computers it really comes in handy to be able to access your emails from any of them |
| 11:07.42 | logixoul | ah, I see. I only have one for now :) |
| 11:08.01 | Sho_ | logixoul: With IMAP, everything stays server-side |
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| 11:08.09 | logixoul | yeah |
| 11:08.19 | logixoul | hahaha. Gwenview looks too much like Konq. I keep entering kde-look.org in its location bar :) |
| 11:09.16 | MinceR | :) |
| 11:10.10 | AnMaster | Sho_, I prefer to ssh to the mail server and read my mails with mutt |
| 11:10.39 | Sho_ | AnMaster: I tend to prefer GUI email clients for some reason |
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| 11:11.05 | Sho_ | I have a postfix+courier mailserver setup, but I'm looking into exim+dovecot for a new box |
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| 11:11.09 | AnMaster | Sho_, ah, well I guess using erc for irc means you can't avoid being called geek (erc is a irc client in emacs, no flamewar please) |
| 11:11.35 | Sho_ | AnMaster: I use (and develop) Konversation, a GUI IRC client for KDE |
| 11:11.43 | Sho_ | AnMaster: And what's worse, I'm from the vim camp ;) |
| 11:11.51 | logixoul | AnMaster: dude, using mozilla thunderbird in Windows is already borderline geek :) |
| 11:11.56 | AnMaster | qmail, and as I got my own domain, it means I don't need things like fetchmail, just use an MX record |
| 11:12.05 | AnMaster | logixoul, windows, eww |
| 11:12.18 | logixoul | right, eww |
| 11:12.31 | AnMaster | Sho_, no flamewar please, k? |
| 11:12.48 | AnMaster | oh and I run Gentoo (64-bit) |
| 11:12.52 | AnMaster | *runs* |
| 11:12.56 | Sho_ | Gentoo, too (32 bit, though) |
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| 11:35.19 | BCMM | can Konqueror do HTTP pipelining? |
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| 11:43.33 | alex[slx] | does anyone know the default theme for kdevelop? |
| 11:44.15 | heath_ | in what directory is the kde splash theme manager typically located? |
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| 11:50.16 | heath_ | alex[slx]: isn't kdevelop's theme the same as every other kde application window? |
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| 11:51.32 | msn | heath_: /usr/share/kde/share/ksplash? |
| 11:52.28 | msn | heath_: /usr/share/apps/ksplash |
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| 11:53.21 | deitarion | What's the quickest way to program about a dozen new holidays into the KOrganizer calendar without the risk of it wiping everything out the way KAddressBook did just after I finished populating it? |
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| 11:54.36 | deitarion | s/KOrganizer/Kontact/ |
| 11:54.43 | heath_ | msn: i was referring to a program that handles the splash theming. |
| 11:54.45 | alex[slx] | heath_: in that case, what are kde's default fonts? |
| 11:55.08 | heath_ | i have a fresh download, let me look. |
| 11:55.09 | deitarion | Correction: cancel that last one. I wasn't familiar with the non-Kontact version of the KOrganizer UI. |
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| 11:55.29 | heath_ | alex[slx]: sans serf 9 |
| 11:55.44 | heath_ | alex[slx]: serif* |
| 11:56.10 | heath_ | brb guys |
| 11:56.11 | heath_ | exit |
| 11:56.33 | alex[slx] | my anti aliasing is all screwed up |
| 11:57.52 | alex[slx] | ahh |
| 11:57.53 | alex[slx] | I see |
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| 12:16.33 | peppelorum | Pretty nasty bug, almost deleted several files that shouldn't be deleted, http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=134361 |
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| 12:17.45 | Raeth | Is there a multi-network interface for KDE? With features such as ping, traceroute, etc |
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| 12:20.56 | annma | peppelorum: there will be no more 3.5 releases |
| 12:21.02 | annma | (probably) |
| 12:21.06 | peppelorum | Raeth: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php/Pinger+Network+Tools?content=35613 for example |
| 12:21.10 | annma | and dolphin is the new file manager |
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| 12:22.40 | peppelorum | Regardless of there is no more 3.5 release, this is a bug that actually destroys data, should be taken more seriously I think |
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| 12:23.16 | Jucato | I can't seem to reproduce that bug |
| 12:25.22 | peppelorum | You must have the filter toolbar visible to reproduce, I can reproduce it every time |
| 12:25.39 | Jucato | yes I have my filter bar visible always |
| 12:25.43 | Jucato | what distro? |
| 12:25.50 | peppelorum | Debian testing |
| 12:26.06 | Jucato | Gentoo here... gonna try Mandriva |
| 12:26.15 | Jucato | and Kubuntu |
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| 12:27.38 | annma | how do you enable the filter bar? |
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| 12:28.22 | Jucato | Configure Toolbars then Filter Toolbar <DirFilter> |
| 12:28.31 | peppelorum | good question, it's not a toolbar of it own.. |
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| 12:29.35 | Jucato | ok here's what I did. Type in "pdf" in the filter toolbar. then select all the PDFs that show. then clear the filter toolbar |
| 12:29.38 | Jucato | only the PDF's are selected |
| 12:29.58 | annma | peppelorum: so what do you need to have visible? |
| 12:30.02 | annma | the filter icon? |
| 12:30.12 | Jucato | the Filter Field |
| 12:30.17 | annma | I cannot type anything |
| 12:30.34 | annma | ah I see it |
| 12:31.17 | Jucato | can't reproduce it on kubuntu either... :/ |
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| 12:31.26 | peppelorum | Jucato: that is not what it says in the bug report, filter out something, press CTRL+A, and then delete, all files in the dir will be deleted, not just the filtered one, see my screenshot for an example, http://bugs.kde.org/attachment.cgi?id=20695&action=view |
| 12:32.04 | Jucato | peppelorum: that's what I do too |
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| 12:32.30 | peppelorum | Jucato: ah, true |
| 12:32.43 | peppelorum | Jucato: If I do that all files are selected |
| 12:32.48 | Jucato | type in "pdf", press Ctrl+A to select all pdf's (but you have to click on the window first because otherwise you only select the text "pdf") |
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| 12:33.12 | Jucato | weird... |
| 12:33.20 | peppelorum | Jucato: Yep, but I select all files, not just the filtered ones |
| 12:33.28 | peppelorum | dangerous |
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| 12:33.45 | Danker | Hi |
| 12:33.51 | Danker | How should I disable Alt-key window grab-move? |
| 12:34.35 | Jucato | Danker: KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Window Actions tab |
| 12:34.47 | Jucato | peppelorum: I can imagine how dangerous it is. but I can't reproduce it.. |
| 12:34.58 | Jucato | on 3 distros |
| 12:35.07 | peppelorum | Really odd |
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| 12:35.20 | Jucato | waiting for annma's results... |
| 12:35.28 | tanamo | Jucato: what kde version? |
| 12:35.32 | annma | I gave up trying |
| 12:35.46 | annma | too complicated |
| 12:35.59 | Jucato | Gentoo (3.5.6 and a half), Kubuntu (3.5.7), Mandriva (3.5.6) |
| 12:36.03 | Jucato | annma: what is too complicated? |
| 12:36.11 | annma | doing this bug |
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| 12:36.26 | annma | i type pdf but then I already filtered pdf |
| 12:36.36 | annma | anyway I never use taht sort of things |
| 12:36.57 | peppelorum | I'll check in #debian-kde to see how it looks in debian sid |
| 12:36.58 | annma | I'm a very basics user |
| 12:37.41 | Jucato | I used it a lot :) |
| 12:37.56 | Jucato | when I was beginning. nifty feature specially since I have lots of files in one folder |
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| 12:38.55 | Danker | thanks |
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| 12:48.38 | peppelorum | The bug is dependet on what kind of view you got, if I got info list, detailed list or text view the bug appears, but in icon view it works alright. |
| 12:48.50 | peppelorum | Jucato: can you confirm this? |
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| 12:49.03 | Jucato | ok hold on |
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| 12:50.05 | Jucato | peppelorum: confirmed |
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| 12:50.23 | peppelorum | Good good |
| 12:50.24 | Jucato | I'm not a fan of list views, so I always only use icon view :) |
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| 12:54.53 | x_link | I use Deailed List |
| 12:55.28 | Jucato | then beware the bug!!! |
| 12:55.33 | peppelorum | The filter toolbar can be activated at settings->configure extensions->tools |
| 12:55.39 | peppelorum | odd place |
| 12:56.16 | Jucato | it's an extension |
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| 12:56.32 | Jucato | not built into konqueror |
| 12:56.38 | annma | not very intuitive |
| 12:57.03 | Jucato | well, you enable the filter toolbar there, but you still need to add it into the toolbar |
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| 12:57.33 | peppelorum | I just have to enable it and it popped up by it self |
| 12:57.44 | Jucato | depends on the distro I guess |
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| 13:03.21 | edgy | Hi, media:/ in konqueror would allow me to mount/umount my external usb drive as a normal user, but if I want do do umount /media/disk from command line, it requires me to be root, how can I do it with out being root from cli, please? |
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| 13:23.13 | BlackBsd | can i export a single contact in kaddressbook as a vcard? |
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| 13:24.21 | Jucato | yep |
| 13:25.31 | BlackBsd | ok, i clicked on send contact info.. :-) i think it sent an .vcf file |
| 13:25.37 | BlackBsd | cool, thanks |
| 13:25.49 | Jucato | Export also works |
| 13:26.01 | BlackBsd | even for a single contact?> |
| 13:26.06 | wolsni | yes |
| 13:26.12 | Jucato | yep |
| 13:26.38 | wolsni | click on it, there are a few options for choosing the contacts to export |
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| 13:28.10 | BlackBsd | sweet, should i use vcard 3.0? or the older version? |
| 13:28.37 | wolsni | BlackBsd: i suppose that depends on who you're sending it to |
| 13:28.47 | wolsni | or rather, what they'll be importing it with |
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| 13:30.42 | BlackBsd | probally with outlook |
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| 13:31.33 | wolsni | well then whatever outlook can handle is what you should use :) |
| 13:33.00 | wolsni | wikipedia suggests that vCard 3.0 is not fully supported in outlook so you might want to stick with 2.1 |
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| 13:50.28 | BlackBsd | thanks |
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| 13:55.48 | joe2371 | kde is mounting my USB flash drive such that it can only be written to by root. How can I change this so that it can be written to by my user? |
| 13:56.17 | joe2371 | short of remounting it |
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| 13:58.24 | EvilGuru | What will becometh of the compositing manager? (for translucency and the like( |
| 13:59.12 | Jucato | built into kwin_composite for KDE 4 |
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| 14:05.38 | Lanken | joe2371: is remounting it a problem? |
| 14:05.44 | EvilGuru | Jucato: So I guess there is little point filing a bug report about it |
| 14:05.59 | Jucato | EvilGuru: for kompmgr? |
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| 14:06.16 | EvilGuru | Jucato: Yes, it and the sync-to-vblank setting do not get along |
| 14:06.36 | Jucato | ah... maybe... there might be no new 3.5.x release anyway |
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| 14:06.50 | Jucato | but I guess it's still worth reporting... |
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| 14:08.34 | EvilGuru | I swear though that without compositing my desktop is slower |
| 14:08.34 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: kompmgr is deader-than-dead, it's unlikely anybody will want to spend time on that one anymore |
| 14:08.45 | Przemcio78 | ;) |
| 14:08.55 | EvilGuru | if I move a window over inkscape I can see black spots as it struggles to re-draw |
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| 14:09.33 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: Yes, the composited desktop model largely takes care of redraw artifacts, that's one of its inherent advantages |
| 14:09.49 | EvilGuru | It did also look quite nice :p |
| 14:10.22 | EvilGuru | I will wait for KDE4, and see if the sync to vblank issue is still around |
| 14:10.46 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: Sync to vblank works quite nicely in the development version of kwin, in OpenGL mode |
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| 14:11.12 | EvilGuru | Sho_: Without it (or with kcompmgr) I get 'tear' lines in OpenGL, mplayer and xine |
| 14:12.23 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: In practice, for a composition manager to sync to vblank in X it needs to be an OpenGL application, because the non-GL ways of vsync are all crap |
| 14:12.37 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: And kompmgr isn't an OpenGL composition manager |
| 14:12.42 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: KDE 4s kwin has one, though |
| 14:12.55 | EvilGuru | So in the world of KDE4 everything is OpenGL? |
| 14:13.23 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: OpenGL is preferred, but the new composition manager also still supports XRender |
| 14:13.57 | EvilGuru | X this, X that, XRender, XDamage, XVideo, XComp-something there are loads |
| 14:14.02 | Sho_ | :) |
| 14:14.21 | EvilGuru | so what about people who can not get hardware accel? |
| 14:14.28 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: For the purpose of that sentence you can mentally replace "XRender" with "ideally hardware-accelerated classic 2D graphics" |
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| 14:14.56 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: People who do not have OpenGL can use the XRender mode, or disable composition |
| 14:15.21 | nana | Hello there, can someone help me out with a c++ problem? I'm written a program for a bookdata just for one book which works fine. I'm now to ensure that it takes care of many books. I've written a small array program via a for loop, tried and it's okay. However, it gives me error whenever I try to incorporate it into the main program. Could you please out there help me out? I'll really appreciate it. Regards Nana Richie |
| 14:15.47 | Sho_ | nana: -> #kde-devel |
| 14:15.48 | EvilGuru | nana: #c++ I believe |
| 14:16.05 | Sho_ | (if it's a KDE app) |
| 14:16.11 | Sho_ | (otherwise, see EvilGuru) |
| 14:16.23 | nana | High there, |
| 14:16.34 | joe2371 | Lanken: I'm trying to get the automounting capability of kde to work for me. It works find if I mount manually as the user. |
| 14:17.06 | nana | I'm using codeBlocks |
| 14:17.15 | rajkt | Have anybody tried ypops? when I run it, there is no message from it.. what is supposed to happen in that? |
| 14:17.42 | Lanken | joe2371: ah. |
| 14:17.44 | EvilGuru | How does kwin choose where to place a 'utility' window - as the inkscape ones often appear on a different monitor to the one which I have inkscape on |
| 14:17.54 | Lanken | joe2371: I don't know if there's a better solution, but one way is to edit the fstab entry. |
| 14:18.12 | Sho_ | Multi-head window placement is significantly improved in KDE4 |
| 14:18.12 | Lanken | joe2371: do you know what UIDs and GIDs are? |
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| 14:18.28 | Lanken | (Sho_: score!) |
| 14:18.42 | joe2371 | oh my. I thought it did work when I manually mounted, but it doesn't. It still requires root privs to write |
| 14:18.56 | EvilGuru | I much prefer the KDE way of using detachable panels - windows are pollution |
| 14:19.05 | joe2371 | Lanken: yes |
| 14:19.05 | Lanken | Sho_: even a CRT? |
| 14:19.23 | Sho_ | EvilGuru: Look forward to KDE4 then ... the new Qt4 Dock Windows are really nice and used quite a bit |
| 14:19.29 | KRF | Sho_, you're poor? sure :) |
| 14:19.40 | Sho_ | KRF: see the smily ;) |
| 14:19.51 | joe2371 | I have fstab configured to allow users to mount the media, but it still won't let me write to it. |
| 14:20.33 | EvilGuru | joe2371: Try (as root) chmod 0777 /mnt/point |
| 14:20.33 | Lanken | you have to get the UID and GID of the user you want to have write access |
| 14:20.34 | KRF | joe2371, you have to set umask,uid in mount options |
| 14:20.40 | EvilGuru | (It is a hack, I know) |
| 14:20.49 | joe2371 | I'll try that |
| 14:21.05 | Lanken | joe2371: that won't work if it's mounting read-only. |
| 14:21.20 | Lanken | joe2371: I sent you a /msg with my fstab entry for /dev/sdb1 |
| 14:21.24 | msn | dont think mounted media retiain permissions given by chmod |
| 14:21.30 | Lanken | which had the same problem as yours, until I added the uid and gid fields. |
| 14:21.44 | msn | try umask option in mount |
| 14:21.50 | msn | or mode option |
| 14:22.05 | KRF | uid is fine, too |
| 14:22.18 | msn | uid restricts to single user |
| 14:22.32 | EvilGuru | Sub-pixel rendering is a pain though - just can't seem to get it to look right |
| 14:22.35 | msn | if you use mode =0777 in mount it would give all users read/write |
| 14:23.09 | msn | depending on if he wants single user/group/world writtable mount |
| 14:23.29 | joe2371 | Lanken: I saw it. Now it won't mount at all. |
| 14:23.49 | Lanken | you have to use the right uid and gid values, of course |
| 14:23.57 | Lanken | google for how to retrieve them. |
| 14:24.19 | Lanken | also, obviously the fs type shouldn't be ntfs unless it's ntfs. |
| 14:25.28 | msn | for ntfs you need uid/gid even for reads |
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| 14:25.51 | Lanken | hmm. as far as I can recall, I did not. |
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| 14:27.57 | joe2371 | "Wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock, missing codepage or other error" |
| 14:28.22 | Lanken | not a very useful error, is it. |
| 14:28.23 | Lanken | :\ |
| 14:28.31 | Lanken | you're sure about the fs type? |
| 14:28.34 | joe2371 | I have fs type set to auto |
| 14:28.55 | Lanken | I have "ntfs" in my fstab for some reason (can't remember what it is) |
| 14:29.02 | Lanken | maybe I got that error when it was "auto" |
| 14:29.19 | joe2371 | ntfs is a particular filesystem used by windows |
| 14:29.33 | joe2371 | oh, the reason. nm |
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| 14:30.17 | Lanken | joe2371: right. I'd rather have "auto," because then my camera would plug and play :\ |
| 14:30.27 | joe2371 | I think it is complaining about a bad option since it was mounting before I added the gid part. |
| 14:30.37 | Lanken | hmm true. |
| 14:30.39 | Lanken | :\ |
| 14:31.04 | EvilGuru | Also does anyone know if kio can take advantage of inotify? |
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| 14:31.22 | Lanken | joe2371: -> query. |
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| 14:32.30 | joe2371 | Lanken: no, I didn't. |
| 14:32.51 | Lanken | you might try in ##linux. |
| 14:33.08 | joe2371 | Lanken: actually, I set gid=100 (users) and omitted uid |
| 14:33.10 | Lanken | they're more knowledable than me, and this really isn't a kde problem. |
| 14:33.20 | Lanken | oh, maybe it's dependent, I'm not sure. |
| 14:33.32 | joe2371 | Lanken: ok, thanks |
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| 14:39.22 | joe2371 | Lanken: it turns out uid and gid are not valid options for all fs types (for instance, ext2) |
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| 14:39.58 | Lanken | joe2371: ah. lame. |
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| 14:40.11 | Lanken | joe2371: good luck to you then. sorry to mislead. |
| 14:40.26 | joe2371 | Lanken: not a problem. thanks for the help anyway. :-) |
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| 14:42.02 | Chani | EvilGuru:livecds can't hurt anything |
| 14:42.13 | Chani | go for it :) |
| 14:42.16 | KRF | joe2371, if it's ext2, just chmod it |
| 14:42.43 | EvilGuru | I was thinking of trying it out on my main system, but a livecd is not a half bad idea |
| 14:42.52 | joe2371 | KRF: chmod /mnt/sdb1? |
| 14:43.20 | joe2371 | KRF: I tried chown root:users instead to no avail. |
| 14:44.03 | joe2371 | oh that was dumb. it is r_x for group. |
| 14:45.22 | EvilGuru | although compiling cmake applications is so much nicer - you get a progress bar |
| 14:45.35 | Lanken | EvilGuru: =D |
| 14:46.00 | EvilGuru | make just tends to pollute my terminal scroll-back |
| 14:46.18 | Lanken | make --quiet? |
| 14:47.58 | joe2371 | chmod 777 /mnt/sdb1; chown root:users /mnt/sdb1; echo "still can't write to disk as user" |
| 14:49.15 | KRF | Lanken, make --quiet gives a lot of output, either |
| 14:49.35 | KRF | joe2371, chmod -R 777 |
| 14:49.58 | Lanken | KRF: ah, too bad. |
| 14:50.32 | wolsni | you can always redirect the output to /dev/null :) |
| 14:50.33 | joe2371 | -R? I'm chmodding it when it is unmounted |
| 14:50.44 | KRF | joe2371, no, it must be mounted |
| 14:50.54 | joe2371 | hmm |
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| 14:51.07 | KRF | sry i didn't say this |
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| 14:55.19 | joe2371 | KRF: I didn't need the -R since the only thing there was lost+found and I don't need to be able to write to that, I don't think |
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| 15:00.29 | joe2371 | KRF: thanks, btw. I didn't think about the fact that the root of the drive would be root:root by default. |
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| 15:03.06 | joe2371 | I guess I just assumed filesystems inherited the permissions of their mount points. Clearly not. |
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| 15:06.58 | dognews | hi, i'm planning to use a laptop at school and was thinking of mediawiki as a kind of "digital notebook". It's in fact a pretty cool thing with included latex but i'm getting more and more anoyed of it being webbased. It's so uncomfortable to edit a page without syntax highlight! - Isn't there a kind of "desktopwiki software" for kde? |
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| 15:11.12 | wolsni | dognews: check out basket |
| 15:11.38 | wolsni | also, there's no reason you can't run a webserver on your laptop |
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| 15:13.21 | jvolkman | dognews, mediawiki seems kind of heavy for a personal notebook.. have you looked at something like tiddlywiki? |
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| 15:14.11 | rajkt | Hi I am using evolution as my email client..But I dont get any notification for new mails.. what should I do for that? |
| 15:14.21 | rajkt | is it because I am using it in KDE? |
| 15:14.43 | wolsni | rajkt: kde shouldn't prevent evolution from notifying you |
| 15:14.55 | wolsni | check the settings for evolution |
| 15:15.20 | wolsni | also, have you verified that the notifications do pop up in a GNOME session? |
| 15:17.35 | annma | dognews: is it to take notes? |
| 15:17.46 | dognews | wolsni: Basket is a great thing but in my case I strongly prefer a markup language as it can be much faster than WYSIWYG - and also included latex for mathematical formulas. I don't have any problems with the webserver - the browser is the problem, as it is really uncomfortable to edit pages of code in a "textarea" |
| 15:19.13 | wolsni | dognews: i understand what you're asking, the options i listed are the solutions i know about |
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| 15:19.27 | wolsni | maybe someone else knows something more suitable |
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| 15:20.52 | dognews | jvolkman: tiddlywiki is also a webbased thing and there don't seem to be proper ways for editing the pages in an editor like kwrite with syntax highlight |
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| 15:23.33 | dognews | annma: it's mainly for the things, my teachers are scribbelling on the board - which is pain text most of the time but can also be formulas, tables or lists - sometimes even drawings which I wanted do import as graphics |
| 15:24.02 | annma | do they have a digital board? |
| 15:24.14 | Jucato | basically basket with wiki/linking capabilities... |
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| 15:25.08 | dognews | annma: nope. :( |
| 15:25.27 | wolsni | dognews: maybe you should just use a digital camera ;) |
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| 15:25.35 | annma | my son went to the USA for an exchange students and he said they have some sort of digital boards |
| 15:26.06 | wolsni | my mother teaches in a middle school and she uses one of those |
| 15:26.23 | annma | USA as well? |
| 15:26.28 | wolsni | yes |
| 15:26.43 | annma | you're ahead of poor Europe |
| 15:26.45 | dognews | annma: I've heard of that stuff on television - pretty cool but only possible in private schools, as it is too expensive ;) |
| 15:26.48 | Jucato | too bad the only note-taking app with linking features that I know of is not KDE :( |
| 15:27.09 | wolsni | she really likes it but as far as I can tell she doesn't do anything she couldn't do with a normal chalkboard |
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| 15:27.34 | annma | wolsni: we can easily imagine that being connected to the students's laptops |
| 15:27.36 | wolsni | she definitely doesn't have any webspace or anything she could use to give notes to students |
| 15:27.54 | wolsni | annma: indeed |
| 15:28.18 | annma | all students had laptops in the school my son went |
| 15:28.31 | annma | all peeople lived in castles by European standards |
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| 15:34.45 | dognews | Since 3 weeks my school is starting to think about students having laptops in class and I'm preparing a project in which 5 students of different ages get a laptop for two weeks and have to use it in every class. It's basically for us getting more experience in that topic. |
| 15:35.06 | aseigo | cool... |
| 15:36.30 | Jucato | moin aseigo! |
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| 15:36.43 | dognews | I'm one of these students - the only one having kubuntu running on his laptop for showing the advantages. The good thing is that I'm the one who has to sum up the results in a presentation, so I'll be able to show how usefull linux and open source is at school! ;) |
| 15:37.08 | annma | dognews: :) wooow |
| 15:37.31 | annma | schools don't need to spend money on software |
| 15:37.37 | brainiac_ghost | annma: I agree |
| 15:38.12 | brainiac_ghost | if i was the sysadmin at a school I would probably use linux on all the PCs |
| 15:38.25 | brainiac_ghost | apart from say 1 or 2 for windows only apps |
| 15:39.14 | dognews | Well, as I said: my main problem at the moment is that I don't have the right software yet :( - I could use oo.org, of course, but a wiki with some nice markup language has heaps of advantages (comfortable search in every single document, very simple to handle, linking,...)! |
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| 15:39.58 | dognews | annma: yeah, that's what also our sysadmin says ;) |
| 15:41.46 | wolsni | dognews: i believe mediawiki does allow users to request that an external editor be used instead of the built-in one |
| 15:42.01 | dognews | We already managed it to run kubuntu an all of our client computers (dual boot)! But no one is using it at the moment - except of some 5 freaks (including myself) :( |
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| 15:42.27 | wolsni | and mediawiki is a highlighting scheme in kate/kwrite |
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| 15:42.58 | tuxick | MS gives schools software almost for free |
| 15:43.11 | tuxick | it's like the crack dealers handing out free samples at schoolyard |
| 15:43.12 | brainiac_ghost | they seem to have removed the best parts of KDE in kubuntu :P |
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| 15:43.16 | Jucato | brainiac_ghost: that's a bit of a given |
| 15:43.22 | Jucato | (first statements, not the last one0 |
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| 15:43.30 | brainiac_ghost | yeah |
| 15:43.40 | brainiac_ghost | It is a shame, because IMO kde is a better DE |
| 15:43.56 | annma_ | tuxick: what about renewing licenses? |
| 15:44.18 | benJIman | brainiac_ghost: that's because kubuntu isn't a distro, it's the KDE packages for a gnome distro |
| 15:44.26 | brainiac_ghost | yeah |
| 15:44.37 | benJIman | They have fewer people working on kubuntu than kde in fedora even. |
| 15:44.41 | dognews | wolsni: yeah, but e.g. "wikipediafs" is very slow :( - I tried out "mozex" which gives me the ability to edit textareas with an external editor. This works quite well but I have to press about 5 shortcuts, until I edited and saved the page again, which is far too much! |
| 15:44.46 | tuxick | annma_: they still get it relatively cheap |
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| 15:45.23 | brainiac_ghost | gah, gconf takes forever to compile (silly network manager depends on the blasted thing) |
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| 15:45.39 | annma_ | well all schools that I know switched to OOorg because of costs |
| 15:45.40 | tuxick | gconf is a nice idea |
| 15:45.47 | annma_ | costs versus usage |
| 15:45.50 | brainiac_ghost | reminds me of the registry |
| 15:46.01 | tuxick | annma_: openoffice is cheaper indeed :) |
| 15:46.01 | wolsni | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Text_editor_support |
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| 15:47.56 | annma_ | nice wolsni |
| 15:48.33 | annma_ | Kate is mentionned! |
| 15:48.42 | Jucato | but of course! :) |
| 15:48.45 | wolsni | it's true :D |
| 15:48.55 | Jucato | (of course, it will be kwrite by kde 4... but meh..) |
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| 15:50.25 | dognews | wolsni: still, there is no prog availabele which doesn't need a browser |
| 15:50.52 | wolsni | dognews: um, why would you use mediawiki without a browser? |
| 15:52.16 | annma_ | you can get a plugin for Firefox so an editor opens in the edit area |
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| 15:53.04 | dognews | wolsni: I was thinking of a kind of prog connecting directly to the mediawikidb - I think there are some windows progrs available doing a job like that... |
| 15:54.07 | wolsni | dognews: i'm just saying that if you only view the wiki source then you might as well be using a directory full of text files |
| 15:54.39 | dognews | annma_: as far as i know, there is no way to replace the text area by e.g. kwrite - it's just opening kwrite with the contents of the textarea |
| 15:54.42 | wolsni | maybe you could find such an app and send me a link? I'd at least be interested in a screenshot |
| 15:55.41 | annma_ | dognews: does it make any difference? |
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| 16:00.20 | dognews | annma_: yeah, it can be quite confusing when editing more than one page ;) |
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| 16:02.05 | dognews | isn't konqueror able to add some syntax highlight into textareas? |
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| 16:07.17 | SimAtWork | <3 KDE |
| 16:07.32 | dognews | wolsni: sorry, I can't find the programm at the moment :( |
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| 16:10.02 | ubuntu__ | why i cant hear sound from movie if i am in another virtual desktop? |
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| 16:10.19 | daum_ | is there an easy way to set it up so kate can edit files on a remote computer? |
| 16:11.10 | daum_ | since i have my system at home which i want to work on and what not with kate while i'm not there, but right now only know of ftping the file over to me, then editing it, then uploading it back...there a way to have kate just open it on the remote computeR? |
| 16:11.43 | Jucato | daum_: er. just open the file using kate, using ftp:/ or sftp:/ |
| 16:11.53 | Jucato | it's one of the features of KDE |
| 16:12.20 | daum_ | so ftp:/MYIP/~myhome/work/file.php? |
| 16:12.27 | daum_ | wouldn't it need my information? |
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| 16:13.08 | Jucato | it will still ask for your username/password when you try to access the location afaik |
| 16:13.15 | daum_ | k |
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| 16:14.37 | firsm | Anybody know how to make virtual desktops have a unique tasklist in the taskbar? |
| 16:15.03 | Jucato | firsm: right-click -> Configure Panel -> Taskbar |
| 16:15.21 | Jucato | uncheck Show windows from all desktops |
| 16:15.37 | firsm | ahh, thank you, that worked. |
| 16:15.56 | daum_ | Jucato, keeps saying no host name specifid |
| 16:16.18 | daum_ | doing ftp:/MYIP/~daum/ |
| 16:16.39 | Jucato | hm.. I'm not very familiar how to do it with ftp. my webhost uses sftp:/ and I can get through |
| 16:17.01 | dognews | ubuntu__: if you're using "kaffeine" as video player, it automatically stops the movie when you're switching the desktop (I think you can change that in the settings) |
| 16:17.03 | daum_ | shouldn't the way you open the file be the same though? |
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| 16:17.48 | Jucato | daum_: should be. just don't know the part where you enter the location. can't you just go to the file from Konqueror and open it in Kate from there? |
| 16:18.48 | ubuntu__ | ok dognews thx very much, i will try it, i just ask because i didnt' find that kind of behaviour in Gnome enwiroment,i switch from desktop to desktop and movie still playing |
| 16:19.32 | daum_ | Jucato, ah yep thanks it works fine |
| 16:19.53 | Jucato | daum_: kool. have fun editing :) |
| 16:20.00 | daum_ | oh i shall |
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| 16:25.16 | EvilGuru | I have a question about KDE/Qt apps and sub-pixel hinting |
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| 16:26.06 | EvilGuru | if an application has vertical text (such as amarok) how does it do this? As if it renders it then rotates would it not look weird due to the sub-pixel hinting relying on positioning of pixeld |
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| 16:37.36 | dokma | hi ppl. my kpdf has no full screen menu entry, is this normal? kpdf 0.5.5 KDE 3.5.5 |
| 16:38.02 | dokma | I'm on debian stable |
| 16:38.11 | dokma | with a few mixes |
| 16:39.07 | Chani | aseigo: dude, the youtube video of you got linked to from the standards council forum. :) |
| 16:39.28 | wolsni | dokma: ctrl+shift+p should put you in presentation mode |
| 16:39.32 | Jucato | dokma: View -> Presentation |
| 16:40.02 | dokma | duh... |
| 16:40.08 | dokma | everyone calls this fullscreen |
| 16:40.12 | dokma | whats up with that ? |
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| 16:41.07 | dany_21 | hi @all! Does anybody know, how konqueror mounts drives, which appear in media:/ ? |
| 16:41.10 | wolsni | dokma: it has a nice progress meter and disappearing navigation bar |
| 16:41.30 | dokma | wolsni tx mate |
| 16:41.35 | dokma | you helped |
| 16:41.38 | dokma | jucato same way |
| 16:41.46 | dokma | now I'm struggling to get my text a bit bigger |
| 16:41.48 | wolsni | i've actually had people comment on how nice my pdf viewer is after giving presentations using kpdf :D |
| 16:41.52 | dokma | ctrl++ does not work |
| 16:42.00 | dokma | heh :D |
| 16:42.02 | dokma | it is pretty |
| 16:42.03 | dany_21 | because, if i click on a unmounted drive, i get: "hal-storage-fixed-mount-all-options refused uid 1000" |
| 16:42.06 | dokma | no argument about that |
| 16:42.27 | dokma | wolsni how do you enlarge the document in full screen? |
| 16:42.27 | dany_21 | but if i type "pmount /dev/sdb1" it just works |
| 16:42.56 | wolsni | dokma: I've never used anything but 'full page' view in presentation mode |
| 16:43.03 | dokma | ahh |
| 16:43.04 | dokma | hmm |
| 16:43.13 | dokma | my screen is a bit too smal for the ebook I'm reading |
| 16:43.16 | wolsni | that may be another presentation-y feature |
| 16:43.44 | wolsni | dokma: you'd probably do better setting it to page width and using kwin's full-screen feature |
| 16:44.03 | dokma | true! |
| 16:44.10 | dokma | didn't think of that |
| 16:44.21 | dokma | thanks, this will make my learning of typo3 a pleasurable experience |
| 16:44.48 | wolsni | enjoy then :) |
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| 16:52.44 | dokma | tx! |
| 16:52.46 | dokma | adio! |
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| 17:03.18 | atidem | ciao |
| 17:03.36 | hackbert-hh | Hi all |
| 17:03.53 | hackbert-hh | is there a way to tell KMail not to convert tabs into spaces when displaying emails? |
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| 17:04.32 | daum_ | anyone have any idea why in konqueror it seems randomly the access keys get activated |
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| 17:16.49 | satanik | somebody here who knows to activate beryl? |
| 17:17.04 | Sho_ | -> #beryö |
| 17:17.07 | Sho_ | err |
| 17:17.08 | Sho_ | -> #beryl |
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| 17:17.58 | satanik | #beryl |
| 17:18.00 | DaSkreech | aseigo: ping |
| 17:18.01 | satanik | :-?? |
| 17:18.28 | Sho_ | satanik: Type "/join #beryl" and press Return |
| 17:19.07 | satanik | tnx:D |
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| 17:28.59 | debianer | is there any K application that can be used to change volume with shortcuts? |
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| 17:32.10 | EvilGuru | Random question: the menu bar font and the K Menu/right click on title bar menu font are different |
| 17:32.54 | wolsni | debianer: you mean like kmix? |
| 17:32.59 | Ze_M | when i run kernel-2.6.17.14mdv-1-1mdv2007.1 it appears my DVD-ROM listed in lspcidrake, but when running kernel-tmb-desktop-2.6.20.11-1mdv-1-1mdv2007.1 it doesnt appear anymore, what/Where is the kernel module for my DVD_ROM? |
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| 17:33.24 | thiago | Ze_M: wrong channel |
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| 17:42.36 | debianer | wolsni: I have kmix but I can't use shortcuts to change the volume |
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| 17:43.23 | wolsni | debianer: then i suggest you set some shortcuts |
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| 17:43.56 | wolsni | in the kmix window, settings->configure global shortcuts |
| 17:46.02 | debianer | ok. getting there. |
| 17:46.04 | debianer | thanks |
| 17:47.39 | debianer | wolsni: does not work. |
| 17:48.01 | debianer | I configured it with ctrl+= and ctrl+- |
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| 17:49.16 | wolsni | debianer: are you running a full kde session? |
| 17:49.51 | debianer | wolsni: yes. I am in full kde desktop |
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| 17:50.58 | wolsni | and your master channel in kmix is the one you want to adjust? |
| 17:51.22 | debianer | yes. |
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| 17:51.42 | debianer | wolsni: what does 'multi key mode' mean? |
| 17:51.43 | Kaepora | hello, anyone wants to share kde screenshots? |
| 17:51.45 | wolsni | well, that sounds like a bug to me |
| 17:51.53 | wolsni | multi key mode? |
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| 17:52.09 | DaSkreech | Kaepora: there are KDE screenshots on kde-look.org |
| 17:52.16 | DaSkreech | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:52.41 | wolsni | multi key mode is like in emacs where you do a sequence oy keys for the shortcut |
| 17:52.45 | wolsni | i think |
| 17:53.22 | wolsni | presumably Kaepora knows why people would want to look at screenshots of others' desktops |
| 17:54.34 | debianer | wolsni: does not work. |
| 17:54.44 | debianer | I will come back to this issue later. |
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| 18:09.16 | DARio89 | hi :) , anyone knows if it is possible to make KDM to stay always on display:0 , and when someone logins , start a new xserver session for him in another display. (ctrl+alt+f7 always displaying login window) .. ? |
| 18:09.33 | thiago | sorry? |
| 18:09.38 | thiago | oh... yes |
| 18:09.57 | thiago | I don't remember how, but take a look at kdmrc |
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| 18:11.29 | MinceR | In Soviet Russia, it's YOU !! |
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| 18:13.26 | thiago | actuallym in Soviet Russia, it would be more like Ñ‚Ñ‹ |
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| 18:53.43 | EvilGuru | Anyone know how I can change the K Menu font and the one used when I right click on a title-abr |
| 18:53.58 | PhilOut | they're the default font, I think |
| 18:54.14 | PhilOut | so, control center -> appearance & themes -> font |
| 18:54.23 | EvilGuru | I am looking the control centre but can not find the one for the k menu and title bar |
| 18:54.34 | EvilGuru | as it is different to my menu bar font |
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| 18:57.19 | EvilGuru | well changing the menu font changes both but they are different |
| 18:57.20 | EvilGuru | one seems more anti-aliased |
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| 18:57.20 | thiago | they're all the same here |
| 18:57.21 | EvilGuru | Arial |
| 18:58.26 | MinceR | perhaps the degree of hinting changed between kwin was loaded and kicker was loaded? |
| 18:58.48 | EvilGuru | kicker also seems less anti-alised |
| 18:58.55 | EvilGuru | if it is still around when I reboot |
| 19:00.16 | thiago | just log out and then back in |
| 19:00.18 | thiago | no need to reboot |
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| 19:04.20 | Workaphobia | Do people still use the audiocd kioslave or is that not maintained? If so where's its project page? |
| 19:05.14 | thiago | it's maintained, but there's nothing to maintain |
| 19:05.17 | thiago | it is working |
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| 19:19.52 | EvilGuru | Seems as if KDE enjoys enabling the freetype auto-hinter when I first log in (as opposed to the patented thingy) |
| 19:19.58 | EvilGuru | but strangely enough it looks better |
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| 19:36.33 | EvilGuru | Has anyone noticed the new style google does not work in Konqueror |
| 19:36.42 | EvilGuru | take a look at the 'more' v button |
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| 19:42.42 | Blissex | I have a two-screen display ("screen" and "display" used here in the technical X sense) without Xinerama and apparently KDE keeps independent config files for some aps for the two screens, with names like "kicker-screen1-rc". I'd like to have the same config on all screens. How to do that? |
| 19:42.59 | bobwhoops | Hi all, in konqueror, is it possible to store the currently opened tabs so you can open them next time you start it? In particular, I'm interested in it in the case of unexpected shutdowns |
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| 19:43.27 | aseigo | Blissex: copy the config over, being careful to preserve names and what not |
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| 19:43.59 | aseigo | Blissex: but there is no option to sync from one config file on all heads |
| 19:44.14 | aseigo | Blissex: most people don't want that, and multi-head is crazy enough as it is |
| 19:44.37 | Blissex | aseigo: ahhh sad. I was doing symlinks (hardlinks get broken). But that has some little problems... Wondered if there was a better way. |
| 19:44.57 | aseigo | bobwhoops: you can do a couple of things.. you can bookmark the tabs into a folder and then you can right click on that folder and select "open folder in tabs". that's how i read the news, actually =) |
| 19:45.03 | EvilGuru | Fonts in GTK apps is turning out to be a real pain - it is as if they are not hinted at all |
| 19:45.23 | Blissex | EvilGuru: that's an incorrect impression of what is happening... |
| 19:45.27 | aseigo | bobwhoops: the other thing you can do is save that set of tabs as a view profile (under the settings menu) and then reload that view profile; be sure to select "save urls in profile" |
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| 19:45.47 | Blissex | EvilGuru: things are very complicated with fonts, and it depends also on whether it is Gtk 1.x or 2.x |
| 19:46.05 | EvilGuru | Blissex: In Qt applications Arial 10 appears to have a faint shadow, which I like, in GTK 2 applications they do not |
| 19:46.17 | Blissex | EvilGuru: link to a short and a full explanation of font quality to follow. |
| 19:46.23 | Blissex | EvilGuru: the faint shadow is probably a bug :-) |
| 19:46.46 | EvilGuru | Blissex: More a result of anti-aliasing with medium hint |
| 19:46.48 | Blissex | EvilGuru: unless you mean the fuzzy countours created by antialising, which is not the same thing as hinting. |
| 19:47.27 | EvilGuru | Well, if GTK applications look exactly the same as if I disabled freetypes auto-hinter and used the BCI patented thingy |
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| 19:47.38 | EvilGuru | ignore the if |
| 19:47.41 | Blissex | http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-3rd.html#060810 |
| 19:47.50 | Blissex | http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/anno06-2nd.html#060509 |
| 19:48.16 | Blissex | and in general http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxFonts.html |
| 19:48.59 | Blissex | EvilGuru: emember that GTk 1.x and GTk 2.x use fonts completely differently... |
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| 19:49.19 | EvilGuru | Yes, however I recall a while back they used to be the same |
| 19:49.38 | EvilGuru | then I switched monitors and while KDE looks mostly the same GTK does not |
| 19:49.47 | Blissex | EvilGuru: no, really comp-letely different. GTk 2.x does things in a way more similar to KDE. |
| 19:50.04 | EvilGuru | I do not use GTK 1 applications |
| 19:50.22 | Blissex | EvilGuru: if you switched monitors and GTk does not look the same probably GTk was not setup quite right... |
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| 19:52.11 | Blissex | aseigo: well, as to «most people don't want that» in multi-screen same config, there is a bit of a difference between having the same config on all screens, and having the same _state_ on all screens. E.g. I would want things like Kicker position to be different, but Kicker style to be the same. But the same config file is used for everything... |
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| 19:53.35 | EvilGuru | Just looking at a couple of screenshots of an H in the same font the GTK is totally sharp while the KDE one has quite a lot of AA applied |
| 19:55.00 | Blissex | EvilGuru: also note that most GTk looking apps are actually GNOME (ot at least GConf) based, and those have different settings. |
| 19:55.21 | EvilGuru | My font settings live in the ~/.fonts.conf XML file |
| 19:55.24 | Blissex | EvilGuru: because in theory all FontConfig using apps just read '/etc/fonts/local.conf' and '~/.fonts.conf' |
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| 19:55.39 | aseigo | Blissex: yes, the view and content data is all in one place.. unfortunately... |
| 19:56.12 | Blissex | aseigo: well, I'll hack it with symlinks for now. |
| 19:56.44 | Blissex | probably few enough people use multi-screen with no-Xinerama that it does not get much exercised. |
| 19:58.29 | Blissex | aseigo: «view and content data» ha. As to that I made a terrifying discovery of something similar recently: 'kcmlaptop' for some reason keeps the battery status in 'kcmlaptoprc' which then gets written to disk every few seconds, and this cannot be turned off, and this of course keeps the laptop disk spinning and wastes power, which is what 'kcmlaptop' measures. Ironic... |
| 19:58.50 | EvilGuru | But if both use font config and freetype shouldn't there be no difference? |
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| 20:00.11 | aseigo | Blissex: the laptop daemon in kdeutils? |
| 20:00.44 | guido_ | What reasons could there be why I don't get the choice "alsa" for the audio hardware in the arts configuration dialog? I've compiled arts, kdebase and kdemultimedia with alsa support (alsa use-flag in gentoo) and other application, like ogg123, can use arts output |
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| 20:04.38 | Blissex | aseigo: the one in 'kdeutils', more of an applet/dæmon than just a dæmon. |
| 20:05.01 | Blissex | guido_: no 'alsa-lib'? |
| 20:05.14 | Blissex | guido_: ALSA kernel modules not loaded? |
| 20:05.34 | Blissex | guido_: use the troubleshooting section of http://WWW.sabi.co.UK/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html |
| 20:06.09 | logixoul | hidden feature of the day ---> http://dot.kde.org/1179921215/1179947793/1179949814/ ... AWESOME! |
| 20:07.51 | aseigo | Blissex: yeah, that one is known to be horrid on power.. |
| 20:08.02 | guido_ | Blissex, as I said, other apps can use alsa without problems. The alsa libs are present, drivers are compiled into the kernel... Only KDE has this problem... |
| 20:08.09 | Blissex | aseigo: and the reason is that jeeps writing to the disk... |
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| 20:09.35 | aseigo | Blissex: one reason, yes |
| 20:10.26 | Blissex | guido_: note that "other application, like ogg123, can use arts output" does not imply that they can use ALSA. aRts is not ALSA. |
| 20:11.23 | Blissex | guido_: also note that the aRts config dialog is not the same thing as the KDE Sound System configuration panel. |
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| 20:11.52 | guido_ | Blissex, that was a typo on my part, sry. I meant to say "other apps ... can use alsa ouput" |
| 20:12.07 | guido_ | Blissex, it isn't? |
| 20:13.06 | Blissex | guido_: they are quite different things. In the KDE Sound System dialog you can disable it, and then KDE apps tend to use ALSA directly if the sound system is disabled. |
| 20:13.07 | guido_ | hm, I tried starting artsd manually with artsd -a alsa, and it crashes with "bus error"... |
| 20:13.43 | Blissex | guido_: does not look tgood. |
| 20:14.26 | guido_ | This is a sparc machine, btw... |
| 20:14.59 | Blissex | guido_: I imagine that ALSA is awesomely well tested on SPARC :-) |
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| 20:15.36 | Blissex | guido_: anyhow try to compare 'artscontrol', 'kcmshell arts'. Also use 'kcmshell sound' to see what ALSA says on your machine. |
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| 20:16.08 | guido_ | Blissex, Well, I don't suppose sending a bug report about arts is of any use at this point, is it? |
| 20:16.36 | Blissex | guido_: it is unmaintained mostly. Especially on SPARC I gues... |
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| 21:20.19 | mwoehlke | anyone know Thomas Zander's nick? |
| 21:20.53 | mwoehlke | ...or Zack Rusin? |
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| 21:26.30 | eckhart | related: anyone knows Jörg Hoh's nick? |
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| 21:31.41 | SSJ_GZ | mwoehlke: Zack is zackr in #kde4-devel |
| 21:33.51 | mwoehlke | thanks SSJ_GZ |
| 21:33.59 | SSJ_GZ | mwoehlke: np |
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| 21:36.32 | mwoehlke | ok, off to haunt other channels then, bye! |
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| 22:41.17 | mkzelda | in konversation's command aliases, how do I use token variables?... for example I'd like to use /mycommand /say http://www.somesite.com/q=%token1+%token2+%token3... |
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| 22:49.54 | EvilGuru | Does KDE not support the dragging of desktop entities to other monitors? |
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