| 00:00.15 | archangelpetro | Evening guys :D |
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| 00:00.56 | archangelpetro | lol |
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| 00:24.16 | aseigo | mpyne |
| 00:24.32 | Kyral | ? |
| 00:24.50 | aseigo | whoever wrote kdesvn-build == mpyne |
| 00:24.55 | Kyral | ah |
| 00:25.57 | Jucato | :) |
| 00:26.23 | Kyral | Only bad thing about it is the IRC Lag caused by the initial SVN checkout :D |
| 00:26.46 | Renze | get more bandwidth ;) |
| 00:26.55 | Kyral | Can't |
| 00:26.58 | Kyral | college :D |
| 00:27.14 | Renze | steal it from in-range unencrypted wireless routers ;) |
| 00:27.19 | Kyral | lol |
| 00:27.24 | Dhraakellian | aren't colleges supposed to have big pipes? |
| 00:27.32 | Renze | not all of them |
| 00:27.41 | Kyral | Dhraakellian: Yah, but split among ~2000 connections.... |
| 00:27.50 | Dhraakellian | point |
| 00:28.21 | Kyral | And any academic thing gets priority in the bandwidth stream |
| 00:29.06 | SimAtWork | kde is academic! |
| 00:29.09 | SimAtWork | go kick their asses |
| 00:29.15 | Kyral | lol |
| 00:29.39 | Kyral | Ah well, tis the good thing about SVN, only have to do the massive checkout once |
| 00:30.13 | Jucato | (unless you happen to get the checkout wrong... or deleted the folder...) |
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| 00:30.19 | Kyral | lol |
| 00:30.29 | Renze | Jucato: speaking from experience? |
| 00:30.35 | Kyral | Anyone actually try KDE 4 yet? |
| 00:30.37 | Jucato | yep :) |
| 00:30.44 | Jucato | that was for Renze, btw |
| 00:30.48 | qupada | or you interrupt an 'svn up' or some other operation and it can't make the working copy sane again |
| 00:30.51 | Jucato | I haven't svn up my KDE 4 yet |
| 00:30.54 | Kyral | I figured |
| 00:31.06 | Kyral | Though I have random lagspikes of 4-5 secs |
| 00:31.09 | Jucato | almost a month since I last ran my KDE 4 install |
| 00:31.26 | Kyral | I plan to run kdesvn-build as a weekly cronjob :P |
| 00:31.50 | lnxnt | can you help me with connecting over serial port ? |
| 00:31.56 | lnxnt | I get "port in use" exceptions |
| 00:32.00 | Kyral | as soon as I remember how to work a crontab |
| 00:32.09 | Renze | Kyral: kcron :) |
| 00:32.16 | Kyral | Renze: lol |
| 00:32.17 | Kyral | yah |
| 00:32.21 | qupada | lnxnt: connection via your serial port to what? |
| 00:32.27 | Kyral | Normally I only have use for cronjobs that root runs |
| 00:32.48 | Kyral | and then I stick the scripts in /etc/cron.{daily, weekly, hourly, monthly} |
| 00:32.49 | lnxnt | qupada: to a bluetooth device |
| 00:33.24 | lnxnt | qupada: it's a busybox linux installed on the device - and it did work yesterday |
| 00:33.52 | Renze | serial port to bluetooth? I'm confused... |
| 00:34.09 | qupada | Renze: you're not the only one |
| 00:34.20 | Kyral | Whee last module being checked out |
| 00:34.28 | lnxnt | yes - it's great :) |
| 00:34.59 | qupada | lnxnt: you have a serial port bluetooth device? or you want to use a virtual serial port over something like a hci_usb device to connect to a remote device |
| 00:34.59 | lnxnt | I can send "hello" over /dev/rfcomm0 and see hello on the console of the bluetooth device :) |
| 00:35.36 | lnxnt | qupada: virtual serial port over ... |
| 00:35.38 | Renze | how is that anything to do with the serial port? |
| 00:36.05 | Renze | the serial port is that 9 pin connector on the back of your PC |
| 00:36.18 | qupada | lnxnt: well if you can send text through rfcomm0 then obviously it's working. what isn't it doing that it needs to? |
| 00:36.21 | lnxnt | no, I mean a virtual serial one |
| 00:36.36 | Renze | lnxnt: then you should have said so |
| 00:36.46 | lnxnt | qupada: that was yesterday. today I get "port already in use" exceptions |
| 00:36.52 | lnxnt | Renze: sorry |
| 00:36.58 | qupada | you can get bluetooth transmitters that attach to serial ports, hence the confusion |
| 00:37.09 | lnxnt | Renze: I guess it makes no difference if it is virtual or not |
| 00:37.12 | qupada | rfcomm over bluetooth is more straightforward |
| 00:37.30 | Renze | lnxnt: it helps to avoid confusion |
| 00:37.48 | lnxnt | qupada: oh, no no. I don't mean a transmitter |
| 00:38.13 | qupada | lnxnt: have you tried rfcomm --release rfcomm0; rfcomm --bind [bdaddr] to re-create the device? |
| 00:39.10 | lnxnt | qupada: yes |
| 00:40.01 | qupada | lnxnt: well then i would suggest installing lsof if you don't have it and using that to figure out what process is keeping the port open |
| 00:41.04 | qupada | Renze: did you notice a power outage this morning? |
| 00:41.11 | Renze | what time? |
| 00:41.25 | qupada | about 5am by the looks |
| 00:41.27 | Renze | I did find "Renze2" in my nick box this morning ;) |
| 00:41.41 | Renze | but it doesn't look like my PC was restarted |
| 00:41.50 | Renze | Uptime: 56 days, 2 hours and 44 minutes |
| 00:41.52 | Renze | nope |
| 00:41.58 | qupada | my PC wasn't on for my UPS to log it, but at probably 5:02 the jetdirect attached to my printer rebooted |
| 00:42.14 | lnxnt | http://phpfi.com/194940 |
| 00:42.36 | lnxnt | # lsof | grep rfcomm0 |
| 00:42.37 | lnxnt | returned: 1 |
| 00:45.24 | qupada | so if there isn't a process holding it open then there's either a problem with your bluetooth adapter, with the pairing of the devices, or with the remote device |
| 00:46.28 | qupada | since local errors are easier to fix, remove the remote device from /var/lib/bluetooth/[adapter_mac_address]/linkkeys, remove the bluetooth adapter, unload every bluetooth module that is a module, plug it back in, reload modules, repair and try again |
| 00:49.44 | lnxnt | the remote device is not listed in /var/lib/bluetooth/[adapter_mac_address]/linkkeys |
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| 00:51.06 | qupada | you did notice the "[adapter_mac_address]" bit, needs replacing with an actual mac address? |
| 00:51.39 | lnxnt | qupada: yes, sure |
| 00:52.18 | qupada | just checking. some people take things a little too literally |
| 00:52.29 | qupada | you might want to try pairing the devices |
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| 00:53.51 | lnxnt | qupada: so, after pairing the mac adress will be listed in the linkkeys file? |
| 00:54.19 | qupada | should be |
| 00:54.26 | qupada | lemme grab a sample entry |
| 00:55.06 | qupada | "00:80:37:79:C0:DA [long hex string] 0 8" |
| 00:55.21 | qupada | i have 3 entries, the latter two have "0 8" at the end, the former has "0 4" |
| 00:55.39 | qupada | the crap in the middle i assume is an md5sum of the pin |
| 00:55.56 | lnxnt | I excuted hcitool cc 00:13:6C:CE:C1:08 for pariring |
| 00:56.02 | lnxnt | but there is still no entry |
| 00:56.26 | schneecrash | hi. my opensuse 10.2 + kde ignores SessionManager buttons (shutdown/restart/logout). restart from cmd line is ok. no errors in syslog -- just no action. earlier advice #here suggested try downgrade to distro, then reupgrade to latest, KDE. i've now tried both distro ver & latest/3.5.5 KDE repo. no dice -- same problem. something's preventing it, obviously. |
| 00:56.27 | schneecrash | question is -- what? fwiw, here's my "ps ax" after a failed attempt: http://rafb.net/p/pyhr8Q16.html |
| 00:57.02 | Renze | schneecrash: are you using kdm? |
| 00:57.18 | Renze | those options require kdm as a login manager |
| 00:58.08 | schneecrash | Renze: understood. yes i am. |
| 00:58.08 | schneecrash | it _used_ to work ... no longer. clearly, something changed recently ... trying to track down, annd un-bork. |
| 00:58.21 | Renze | might be a suse change |
| 00:58.30 | lnxnt | qupada: something is wrong with my bluetooth I guess |
| 00:58.41 | qupada | lnxnt: bluez 2.2x or 3.x ? |
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| 00:59.15 | qupada | lnxnt: it would certainly appear that way |
| 00:59.17 | Op3y | what is the name for install kde with urpmi |
| 00:59.19 | Op3y | ? |
| 00:59.19 | schneecrash | Renze: possible ... short of figuring out how to drop back version-by-version, i'm hoping to ID the problem ... with no error in log, i'm stumped, atm. |
| 01:01.07 | lnxnt | qupada: my bluez version is 2.25 |
| 01:01.22 | Renze | Op3y: ask in your distro channel... that's a distro specific question |
| 01:01.41 | Op3y | just did |
| 01:01.45 | Op3y | but how about this |
| 01:01.59 | Op3y | you know the name of the packet |
| 01:02.03 | qupada | lnxnt: i was just asking because pairing is a royal PITA in 3.x, because the pin entry app has to work through dbus |
| 01:02.07 | Renze | Op3y: kde is released as source only. distro packages are up to the distro. |
| 01:02.19 | Op3y | ic |
| 01:02.21 | Renze | Op3y: no, I do not know the names your distro chose for the packages |
| 01:02.27 | Op3y | ty |
| 01:02.28 | qupada | lnxnt: but in 2.x hcid.conf can specify pin_helper, so that's ok |
| 01:02.53 | Ze_M | anyone that can explain me some about kdepim build? |
| 01:02.58 | qupada | lnxnt: try removing all the contents of /var/lib/bluetooth/ completely and try again |
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| 01:05.48 | twobitsp1ite | how do I get kdm to honor my .xinitrc, or where do I need to put X startup info? |
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| 01:28.23 | dcorbin | Anyone here a kmplayer user? |
| 01:28.38 | stoned | YES!!!!!!!! |
| 01:28.47 | stoned | well not so much anymore |
| 01:28.54 | stoned | oh |
| 01:29.08 | stoned | wait, I misread, I apologize. I saw "kplayer" not "kmplayer" |
| 01:29.14 | stoned | I don't know kmplayer at all, sorry. |
| 01:29.35 | dcorbin | kplayer is an MP3 (among other formats) player? |
| 01:29.57 | Jucato | no |
| 01:30.05 | Jucato | kplayer is a KDE frontend to mplayer |
| 01:30.16 | Jucato | just like kmplayer...except that it can only use mplayer |
| 01:31.31 | dcorbin | I have an mp3 that I play. But it won't give me any "time related information". I'm not sure if it's actually the mp3, or if it's a player problem. |
| 01:32.26 | dcorbin | I'd actually like a digital-audio player that I could 'bookmark' and resume a long 'file' later. |
| 01:33.15 | Renze | codeine does that, at least with video |
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| 01:41.03 | RavenSlay3r | good evening all |
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| 01:42.00 | schneecrash | Renze @ 'shutdown -r now', my syslog ERRORs @ "kdm: :0[2944]: pam_close_session() failed" & "kdm: :0[2944]: pam_setcred(DELETE_CRED) failed". (more -> http://rafb.net/p/3rb4Og40.html). the reboot, nonetheless, seems to work fine. |
| 01:42.00 | schneecrash | wonder if this has anything to do with the Restart-via-SessionManager not working? |
| 01:42.30 | RavenSlay3r | had a question about a favorite feature that seems to be missing out of KDE-3.5 |
| 01:42.47 | Renze | schneecrash: pam installed properly? |
| 01:43.04 | RavenSlay3r | one used to be able to switch between virtual-desktops by mousing over the edge of the screen |
| 01:43.23 | RavenSlay3r | I can't find the checkbox for it anywhere, nor mention of it in the docs now though. |
| 01:43.36 | Renze | RavenSlay3r: still exists... kcontrol -> desktop -> window behaviour -> advanced tab |
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| 01:43.51 | Renze | Active Desktop Borders |
| 01:44.07 | schneecrash | Renze checking ... |
| 01:44.30 | schneecrash | package pam-0.99.6.3-24 is already installed |
| 01:44.59 | Renze | schneecrash: means nothing to me, I don't use the same distro as you |
| 01:45.34 | RavenSlay3r | ahh found it! |
| 01:45.34 | schneecrash | Renze: that's the latest-greatest available ... seems to be installed ok, afaict. |
| 01:45.35 | RavenSlay3r | Thanks - can't believe i missed it there |
| 01:45.42 | Renze | RavenSlay3r: no problem |
| 01:45.58 | Renze | schneecrash: other than that, I have no idea why it would be failing |
| 01:46.26 | RavenSlay3r | although kcontrol -> desktop -> window behaviour -> Multiple Desktops | might be a better spot for it... |
| 01:46.45 | RavenSlay3r | if anyone happens to be a KDE developer in here... <hint hint> ;-) |
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| 01:46.48 | Renze | RavenSlay3r: no, that's for xinerama related stuff |
| 01:47.13 | Renze | RavenSlay3r: i.e. more than one monitor |
| 01:48.27 | RavenSlay3r | hmmm.. thats where you get by right clicking on the virtual-desktop applet and selecting configure |
| 01:49.08 | RavenSlay3r | and that screen has a checkbox to make the scroll-wheel switch virtual desktops similar to active-desktop-borders |
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| 01:49.22 | Renze | RavenSlay3r: looks like your kcontrol layout is different from the norm |
| 01:49.44 | Renze | ah no, my bad... I was looking elsewhere |
| 01:50.00 | gnat_x | how do i reset the colors back to the default in kate. i was mucking around and realized it was really complex to get it looking like i want; but i already saved a bunch of stuff. |
| 01:50.03 | RavenSlay3r | it's stock openSuse 10.2 so I dunno |
| 01:50.50 | RavenSlay3r | anyways that was the basis for my argument - err. opinon.. lol |
| 01:50.56 | Renze | anywho, I'll be back later... things to do |
| 01:51.02 | RavenSlay3r | alright |
| 01:51.03 | RavenSlay3r | thanks |
| 01:51.55 | schneecrash | Renze: seems those errors originate in "branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kdm/backend/client.c" ... is this the right forum for digging further? |
| 01:52.14 | gnat_x | nm. i found it. |
| 01:52.19 | gnat_x | thanks anyway. |
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| 01:53.33 | RavenSlay3r | bye all |
| 01:53.34 | RavenSlay3r | exit |
| 01:54.04 | quasy | doesn anyone know howto make that my all aplications use same theme and style like KDE ? |
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| 01:59.02 | quasy | does anyone know howto make that my all aplications use same theme and style like KDE ? :S |
| 01:59.32 | pierreth | quasy: are you talking about GTK? |
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| 01:59.57 | quasy | pierreth to be honest with you i dont know much about that |
| 02:00.02 | quasy | i think its gtk |
| 02:00.09 | quasy | and aplications like xchat use them |
| 02:00.22 | pierreth | it is two things |
| 02:00.35 | quasy | can ypu explain me that please ? |
| 02:00.37 | pierreth | you can use two themes looking the same |
| 02:00.58 | quasy | can i try to explain you .. |
| 02:00.59 | quasy | watch .. |
| 02:01.04 | quasy | i change theme for kde |
| 02:01.04 | pierreth | You using two kinds of applications |
| 02:01.19 | quasy | now , amarok use new theme, but xchat no .. |
| 02:01.30 | pierreth | Amarok is KDE |
| 02:01.33 | quasy | yeah |
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| 02:01.46 | pierreth | Xchat is not a KDE application |
| 02:02.08 | quasy | aham, and can i make somehow that he use same theme ? |
| 02:02.08 | pierreth | Xchat knows nothing about KDE |
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| 02:02.24 | pierreth | not really |
| 02:02.37 | quasy | hmm |
| 02:02.45 | quasy | i was using ubuntu before slack |
| 02:02.45 | pierreth | but you can use a GTK theme looking the same way |
| 02:02.54 | crazy | try the gtk-qt-engine ? |
| 02:03.06 | pierreth | yes |
| 02:03.28 | pierreth | There is a file to edit to change that |
| 02:03.30 | quasy | so i need to install that ? |
| 02:03.53 | pierreth | I am not sure if it is already installed |
| 02:04.09 | pierreth | can you go in your System Preferences? |
| 02:04.24 | quasy | yeah |
| 02:04.28 | quasy | how i can chek ? |
| 02:04.39 | pierreth | wait, I will look in mine |
| 02:04.53 | quasy | ok |
| 02:05.08 | pierreth | are u working in English? |
| 02:05.16 | quasy | yes |
| 02:05.31 | pierreth | OK, I am in French so I will need to translate |
| 02:05.36 | quasy | uh :S |
| 02:05.56 | pierreth | Do you have a thing called Appearance? |
| 02:06.07 | quasy | yes |
| 02:06.28 | pierreth | i cannot write in private |
| 02:06.37 | quasy | aham, ok |
| 02:06.58 | pierreth | quasy: how could you? |
| 02:07.15 | quasy | pierreth register your nick |
| 02:07.28 | quasy | /msg chanserv register PASSWORD |
| 02:07.30 | pierreth | I've tried, but it is hard to do |
| 02:07.45 | pierreth | just like that? |
| 02:07.46 | quasy | no, just type /msg chanserv register YOUR PASSWORD |
| 02:07.47 | quasy | yes |
| 02:07.59 | pierreth | what is my password? |
| 02:08.15 | quasy | any you want |
| 02:08.16 | quasy | .. |
| 02:08.22 | quasy | put something .. |
| 02:08.23 | pierreth | OK |
| 02:09.08 | pierreth | does not work |
| 02:09.16 | quasy | hm |
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| 02:09.27 | quasy | must work :S |
| 02:09.33 | pierreth | it says that my nickname is not registred |
| 02:09.53 | quasy | how did you type ? |
| 02:09.59 | quasy | you must put something like |
| 02:10.06 | quasy | /msg nickserv register pass123 |
| 02:10.32 | crazy | heh -> Control Center -> Appearance & Themes -> GTK Styles and Fonts |
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| 02:10.45 | quasy | GTK Styles and Fonts |
| 02:10.46 | pierreth | yes, do you have it |
| 02:10.48 | quasy | i dont have that |
| 02:10.48 | quasy | :S |
| 02:10.54 | quasy | i was have on ubuntu |
| 02:10.57 | quasy | but on slackware |
| 02:10.58 | quasy | i dont have |
| 02:11.12 | pierreth | just install it |
| 02:11.12 | crazy | install gtk-qt-engine |
| 02:11.23 | pierreth | i have it on PCBSD |
| 02:11.43 | pierreth | but you can edit your file by hand if you like |
| 02:12.05 | quasy | i am going to install this |
| 02:12.14 | quasy | and i will try then |
| 02:12.19 | quasy | thank you guys |
| 02:15.35 | quasy | yeah thats it |
| 02:15.45 | quasy | thank you |
| 02:15.45 | pierreth | you made it? |
| 02:15.46 | quasy | :) |
| 02:15.48 | quasy | yeah |
| 02:15.49 | quasy | it work |
| 02:16.00 | quasy | its beautiful now :D |
| 02:16.04 | pierreth | what style do you have? |
| 02:16.20 | quasy | crystal |
| 02:16.25 | quasy | and qtcurve |
| 02:16.33 | pierreth | I have MurrinFancyClearlooksSea |
| 02:17.12 | pierreth | for kde I have Polyester |
| 02:17.38 | pierreth | It is a lot nicer than Windows |
| 02:17.45 | quasy | http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=36018&file1=36018-1.png&file2=36018-2.png&file3=36018-3.png&name=Polyester-QtCurve+In+Gold |
| 02:17.49 | quasy | this ? |
| 02:18.36 | pierreth | not with these colors |
| 02:18.58 | pierreth | more blue KDE |
| 02:19.04 | quasy | aha |
| 02:19.12 | pierreth | but yes |
| 02:19.38 | pierreth | I have my OK button on the right |
| 02:19.46 | pierreth | after Cancel |
| 02:20.18 | pierreth | I also have the Mac keyboard to be in total confort |
| 02:20.26 | quasy | hehehe |
| 02:20.35 | quasy | good for you |
| 02:20.35 | quasy | :D |
| 02:20.49 | pierreth | the control key is too far for me |
| 02:20.58 | pierreth | :-) |
| 02:21.01 | quasy | :P |
| 02:21.26 | pierreth | but I cannot use two keyboards with this setting |
| 02:22.03 | pierreth | there are bugs in KDE with that |
| 02:22.22 | quasy | i didnt try it |
| 02:22.50 | pierreth | are using the control key for your shortcuts? |
| 02:23.32 | quasy | no |
| 02:23.54 | pierreth | what are you using? |
| 02:24.55 | quasy | wait, do you think on shortcuts for aplications |
| 02:24.59 | quasy | or just on |
| 02:25.06 | quasy | like ctrl + pgdwn |
| 02:25.24 | pierreth | like ctrl+c to copy |
| 02:25.39 | quasy | aha |
| 02:25.50 | quasy | yes i am using control then |
| 02:25.50 | quasy | :D |
| 02:25.53 | pierreth | OK, you are using the default |
| 02:25.59 | quasy | yes |
| 02:26.11 | pierreth | Don't you think it is too far way? |
| 02:26.53 | quasy | i am learn like this |
| 02:26.56 | quasy | its hard to change |
| 02:26.57 | quasy | :) |
| 02:27.16 | pierreth | OK, I use this for Windows but I don't like it |
| 02:27.40 | pierreth | The command key is under my thumb |
| 02:27.57 | pierreth | it feels natural |
| 02:28.29 | quasy | heh |
| 02:28.47 | pierreth | Anyway we can choose on KDE |
| 02:29.38 | pierreth | What I would like is a way to switch language fast |
| 02:29.59 | lnxnt_ | I just tested the whole program in windows |
| 02:30.09 | lnxnt_ | and I get the same port in use exception :( |
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| 02:40.45 | minra | i want to marry the "initiating startup sequence" girl |
| 02:46.41 | alaQ | minra:? |
| 02:47.25 | minra | thought it was part of kde: /usr/share/sounds/startup.ogg |
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| 02:48.07 | minra | very sexy voice |
| 02:48.30 | alaQ | I have it not. |
| 02:48.38 | alaQ | what distro? |
| 02:49.55 | workman161 | [21:49:50] [CTCP] Received CTCP-VERSION reply from minra: xchat 2.4.5 Linux 2.6.13-kanotix-17 [i686/2.17GHz] |
| 02:51.30 | minra | kanotix |
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| 02:52.17 | alaQ | caught it. I'm running sabayon right now, so it's a distro thing. |
| 02:53.21 | workman161 | share the love, minra :) |
| 02:53.41 | minra | i will -- just finding a temp filesharing site |
| 02:54.37 | minra | brb |
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| 03:01.17 | minra | www.mytempdir.com/1174391 |
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| 03:01.54 | minra | i want to clone her |
| 03:03.18 | alaQ | nice voice, WAAAY too reverbed. |
| 03:03.42 | minra | do any sound production yourself? |
| 03:04.35 | alaQ | a little. I dabble in just about anything you can name. |
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| 03:05.02 | qupada | beastiality? |
| 03:05.08 | qupada | :P |
| 03:05.08 | qupada | (it had to be said) |
| 03:05.13 | ViT-root | ÚÄÅÓØ ÒÕÓÓËÉÅ ÅÓÔØ? |
| 03:05.26 | alaQ | within some limits, apparently... |
| 03:05.30 | alaQ | *eye roll* |
| 03:06.00 | minra | i can't find who made that sample |
| 03:10.29 | Simkin | hey guys |
| 03:10.36 | alaQ | hey |
| 03:10.37 | Simkin | does anyone know if the flash plugin works in konqueror? |
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| 03:13.18 | Jucato | it works |
| 03:16.27 | alaQ | copy the flash .so into konqueror's plugin dir. |
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| 03:16.29 | qupada | even better just add another directory to the list konqueror uses to look for plugins |
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| 03:16.51 | alaQ | qupada: well, sure. make it easy :) |
| 03:17.07 | jarn_ | How do I disable the sound made when switching desktops? It is VERY annoying... I looked through the System Notifications menu in KControl, to no avail. |
| 03:18.44 | alaQ | jarn_: at the top of the system notifications is a drop-down bar, easily missed. it says event source. it'll be under "the K window manager." |
| 03:19.09 | qupada | jarn_: i think it's the items called "Virtual desktop [number] is selected", under the category "The KDE Window Manager" |
| 03:19.22 | jarn_ | alaQ: I looked through the things in the bar. "K Window Manager" is not one of the options. |
| 03:19.51 | alaQ | hmm... |
| 03:20.00 | jarn_ | Oh, it's KDE Window Manager. |
| 03:20.06 | alaQ | there you go. |
| 03:20.11 | jarn_ | Thanks! |
| 03:20.15 | jarn_ | I don't know how I missed that... |
| 03:20.24 | jarn_ | I thought I went through all the event source options. |
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| 03:20.37 | alaQ | no worries... i didn't know the bar was there until about 4 months after using Kde |
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| 03:22.12 | qupada | heh, it doesn't bother me if it is or not. i just check the "apply to all applications" box then click "turn off all sounds" |
| 03:22.34 | jarn_ | I don't want to turn off all sounds. |
| 03:23.06 | alaQ | yeah... otherwise we don't get minra's startup voice... |
| 03:24.09 | qupada | ya-huh. no startup sound = a good thing in my book |
| 03:24.41 | alaQ | as a musician, i like sounds. But, i'm also a minimalist. |
| 03:25.47 | qupada | especially when you've left the volume at 100% without realising it, because i don't have a hardware volume control i can get at earlier. i have keyboard volume controls (khotkeys) and the breakout box attached to my sound card (lirc/irkick), neither are active until long after the sound has gone away |
| 03:25.53 | minra | with taste. that was a good call on the level of echo |
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| 03:26.45 | ner0x | Any kde apps that help generate resumes? (besides doing it myself in kword :-/ )' |
| 03:27.12 | alaQ | ....nope. Kword's the only one coming to mind. :s |
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| 03:27.22 | alaQ | you can try kde-apps.org |
| 03:27.37 | alaQ | it has a list of all (most) kde apps available |
| 03:27.37 | ner0x | alaQ: Not a thing. |
| 03:27.41 | Renze | or kde-files.org for any templates people may have made |
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| 03:35.23 | klees | is setting wallpapers through Firefox allowed in KDE??? |
| 03:37.24 | minra | seems like an odd way to do it |
| 03:37.41 | ner0x | That's an internet explorer feature if I remember correctly. |
| 03:37.50 | alaQ | i'd just download the pic, and set it as background through kcontrol. |
| 03:38.06 | alaQ | firefox has that ability, but i don't know if kde handles it. |
| 03:38.56 | Sho_ | alaQ: It would be possible for Firefox to do it in KDE if it chose to do so (i.e. the interface exists). As far as I know it does not. |
| 03:40.01 | alaQ | I see. |
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| 03:40.18 | klees | what about the "opening containing folder"??? is that handled by KDE? |
| 03:41.07 | klees | ...after downloading a file |
| 03:41.14 | Sho_ | klees: Firefox is not a KDE application. It makes no attempt to integrate with KDE. That's not KDE's fault. |
| 03:41.53 | klees | but Firefox is not a Gnome application but it integrates with Gnome |
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| 03:42.15 | Sho_ | klees: Actually, yes, Firefox considers itself a Gnome application on the Linux desktop. |
| 03:42.28 | ner0x | Such a shame. :) |
| 03:42.32 | klees | Sho_: interesting |
| 03:42.46 | wolsni | klees: I suspect that putting together a firefox extension to tweak the menus to use KDE equivalents would be fairly simple, though |
| 03:43.00 | alaQ | although there are (or used to be) projects that worked to bridge that. I'm not sure if they still exist. |
| 03:43.10 | klees | wolsni: simple to those that know how to create extensions |
| 03:43.17 | Sho_ | klees: That's the answer I got from Asa Dotzler (a Mozilla employee) when I inquired about perhaps not using the shoddy GTK file picker dialogs when running Firefox inside KDE considering the old XUL dialog is still in there and looks at least similar to the KDE dialogs in layout, if not capability. |
| 03:43.49 | klees | I see |
| 03:44.16 | Sho_ | (There's a wrapper app called "kgtk" that makes Firefox use KDE file dialogs, though.) |
| 03:44.16 | klees | so, it's Konqueror your default browser? |
| 03:45.46 | klees | to those interested Flash 9 came out on 1/16 |
| 03:45.46 | Sho_ | klees: There's a project called Portland that KDE, Gnome and others participate in to present a common API to cross-platform applications to do things like invoke file and printer dialogs, and perhaps also set wallpapers. The hope is that Firefox will go Portland further down the road to improve the experience for their KDE-using users. |
| 03:45.59 | Sho_ | klees: In the meantime, the browser that integrates best with KDE is Konqueror, yes. |
| 03:46.02 | wolsni | klees: interested and using x86 :( |
| 03:46.47 | klees | Sho_: understood |
| 03:46.59 | klees | wolsni: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/ |
| 03:47.07 | Renze | klees: he means there is no 64 bit version yet |
| 03:47.16 | wolsni | exactly |
| 03:47.35 | klees | Renze: forgive my noobness |
| 03:48.14 | klees | can't you still use the 32bit version? |
| 03:50.16 | klees | Sho_: which distro you use? |
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| 03:50.37 | Sho_ | klees: I use Gentoo Linux on my main PC and Kubuntu on my laptop |
| 03:51.13 | alaQ | Sho_:nice. i have a friend with that same setup |
| 03:51.16 | klees | I'm using Kubuntu on my desktop but have always been interested on running Gentoo |
| 03:51.31 | alaQ | I have just my sabayon laptop. |
| 03:51.34 | stoned | hi Renze |
| 03:51.40 | Renze | 'lo stoned |
| 03:51.43 | stoned | Renzi poo! |
| 03:51.45 | stoned | awe! |
| 03:51.51 | ner0x | Anything to do your taxes on KDE? |
| 03:52.05 | klees | TurboTax online? =/ |
| 03:52.08 | stoned | ner0x, I need something like that too |
| 03:52.44 | alaQ | OO.o calc? :s |
| 03:53.20 | Sho_ | The laptop is a little to weak to compile Gentoo comfortably, and Kubuntu does a great job of supporting all the hardware even down to model-specific details like special keys out of the box without additional effort. On my main box I prefer the flexibility of Gentoo, though. |
| 03:53.44 | alaQ | Sho_: what's the laptop? |
| 03:53.57 | Sho_ | alaQ: iBook G4 800 12" |
| 03:54.11 | klees | Sho_: how much effort does it take you to have your desktop run Gentoo from scratch? |
| 03:54.13 | alaQ | ok. granted, hten. |
| 03:54.20 | alaQ | then even. |
| 03:55.54 | Sho_ | klees: At this point, not very much. When one has done it once, the Gentoo setup process is fairly straight-forward. A first time install takes some patience and learning, though. |
| 03:56.12 | alaQ | and quite a bit of reading ahead of time. |
| 03:56.29 | Sho_ | klees: The setup documentation is excellent, however, so I'd count the learning as a benefit. |
| 03:56.36 | alaQ | definitely. |
| 03:57.29 | alaQ | i'll stick with sabayon though. it's like if gentoo, suse, and ubuntu had offspring. |
| 03:57.48 | klees | lol |
| 03:57.51 | alaQ | source-based, autodetects hardware, and comes with pre-built Xgl/aiglx |
| 03:58.04 | qupada | alaQ: marrying cousins isn't a good thing |
| 03:58.11 | klees | alaQ: i hate the fact that sabayon doesn't have a minimal version for 3.26 though |
| 03:58.14 | qupada | you tend to get children with birth defects |
| 03:58.24 | BrianSteffens | anyone know of a good starting place tutorial for writing system tray applications? |
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| 03:58.58 | alaQ | klees: still running off my 3.2 dvd.. i have to wait to get the next one... I'm on 56k right now - it'd take a while. |
| 03:59.18 | Sho_ | klees: Basically, I like Gentoo because it's flexible and powerful, especially thanks to a strong toolset - the package manager is a lot less crufty than some of its older peers. It's rewarding for the technically-minded user, and the Gentoo docs do a good job of turning beginners into technically-minded users ;-) |
| 03:59.27 | deitarion | How do I manually edit the ksystraycmd list of windows to hook? Every time I start my GTK-Gnutella, it gets two icons, but it crashes without unhooking when I choose "undock" in the ksystraycmd icon. |
| 04:00.09 | klees | alaQ: I believe 3.2 has a minimal CD install |
| 04:00.32 | alaQ | yeah... but i've already got the dvd. - had it from college. |
| 04:00.46 | Sho_ | And on that consensus, I'll head off to bed ... way too late here :-) |
| 04:00.49 | Sho_ | g'night |
| 04:00.49 | alaQ | but i'm not going back this spring, because I'm going on a study abroad trip. |
| 04:00.55 | alaQ | later Sho_ |
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| 04:01.33 | klees | Sho_: what time is it? |
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| 04:02.03 | Renze | in germany? around 5am |
| 04:03.45 | BrianSteffens | when can we start using kde4? |
| 04:03.53 | Renze | second half of this year |
| 04:03.58 | alaQ | when they release it. |
| 04:04.01 | Renze | no firm dates yet |
| 04:04.01 | BrianSteffens | thanks |
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| 04:04.11 | klees | is that the Alpha? |
| 04:04.12 | alaQ | sorry - had to give the smart comment. :- |
| 04:04.42 | BrianSteffens | alaQ do you use slackware lol |
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| 04:07.53 | deitarion | Never mind. Apparently something added a .desktop override for gtk-gnutella without asking me. Now that it's gone, things are fine. |
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| 04:10.32 | klees | can one use Krdc to connect to a Windows system? |
| 04:10.46 | Renze | well it wouldn't be much use if you couldn't |
| 04:11.11 | klees | interesting |
| 04:11.30 | Dr_willis | kdrc can connect to vnc running on a windows box i know. :) but thats all ive used it for windows-wise. |
| 04:11.37 | klees | does it act as remote desktop from windows? |
| 04:11.51 | Dr_willis | windows remote desktop - is that in XP home? |
| 04:11.53 | Renze | krdc is both a vnc and rdesktop client |
| 04:12.17 | Renze | virtual network computing |
| 04:13.06 | Renze | read the wikipedia article for more information |
| 04:13.24 | klees | so can I connect to a friend's computer -which is not running vnc- to troubleshoot his problems? |
| 04:13.54 | Renze | if he's running rdesktop, yes |
| 04:14.05 | Dr_willis | i cant say that ive ever used rdesktop. that comes with XP home? or only in the higher versions? |
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| 04:20.05 | SAS_Spidey01 | rdesktop is not apart of Windows, its a RDP client |
| 04:21.03 | SAS_Spidey01 | XP Pro / MCE (professional + multimedia features) can share the desktop using a RDP server thingy. XP Home only has a client like rdesktop serves on my BSD system |
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| 04:31.37 | ner0x | stoned: It would be nice. |
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| 04:42.15 | eirich | can anyone point me to a place to download kfortune? |
| 04:42.35 | Renze | I think that project is dead... but you can do the same thing with a script and kdialog |
| 04:43.39 | Renze | kdialog --msgbox "`fortune`" |
| 04:44.59 | eirich | i'll give it a shot |
| 04:44.59 | eirich | just a little project i'd like to get going in the office |
| 04:45.00 | eirich | thanks for the info |
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| 04:45.33 | Renze | no problem |
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| 04:51.01 | Shirakawasuna | does anyone in here use amarok + automatic transcoding for your media device? |
| 04:51.19 | Renze | amarok, yes... transcoding, no |
| 04:52.40 | SAS_Spidey01 | ditto ^ |
| 04:54.36 | Shirakawasuna | darn |
| 04:54.46 | Shirakawasuna | I suppose I could just test it out, although now I"m having trouble finding the script |
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| 04:54.55 | Renze | you're darning? good, I have some socks with holes in them that need repair |
| 04:55.08 | Shirakawasuna | darn your socks! |
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| 04:58.31 | Shirakawasuna | hrm, maybe |
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| 04:59.01 | Shirakawasuna | not sure why you'd want a laptop the size of a walkman, which is about as big as a portable media device should be, imo :/ |
| 04:59.05 | Renze | and the foam dome is the best concept for a portable drinking device |
| 04:59.29 | Shirakawasuna | it'd have to be something way different from what we call a laptop ;) |
| 05:01.02 | SAS_Spidey01 | Hey the Walkmans a nice one but what good is it unless you can get a low-cost one that plays the radio and has an internal USB card /w 500GB storage on it hehehe |
| 05:01.47 | wolsni | SAS_Spidey01: you have a 500GB music collection?? |
| 05:01.56 | Shirakawasuna | 500 Gb storage is a lot o' music |
| 05:02.04 | SAS_Spidey01 | No, I have a 500GB hard drive hehe |
| 05:02.34 | SAS_Spidey01 | my music collections only about 1.8GB, mostly max qual .ogg's |
| 05:02.52 | Shirakawasuna | .ogg = container |
| 05:02.55 | Shirakawasuna | vorbis? |
| 05:03.01 | SAS_Spidey01 | yes |
| 05:03.19 | Renze | ogg speex would be silly for music ;) |
| 05:03.28 | Renze | ogg flac would make sense, though |
| 05:04.01 | Renze | ogg speex would work for audio books, though |
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| 05:09.51 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 05:09.56 | Shirakawasuna | I was thinking of ogg flacs |
| 05:10.11 | Shirakawasuna | not sure why you wouldn't just name it a flac, but I've heard of it - does the container help anything like streaming? |
| 05:10.58 | SAS_Spidey01 | This bloody getopt/switch-case is giving me a migrain |
| 05:11.21 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: two weeks! (stock answer) |
| 05:11.37 | Shirakawasuna | hehe |
| 05:11.43 | Shirakawasuna | I think one's 5400 |
| 05:12.09 | Shirakawasuna | faster than the wireless transfer of 20 gigs I just did, no doubt about that |
| 05:12.18 | SAS_Spidey01 | I think my laptops in the 4x00rpm range |
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| 05:17.40 | stinger_au | yo |
| 05:18.00 | SAS_Spidey01 | kinda cool how if I call this program with no arguments I get a bus error hehe |
| 05:18.06 | stinger_au | is there any reason why when i move windows around in KDE they seem to flicker a little bit even though i have all the syen to black stuff turn on |
| 05:20.36 | stinger_au | and its only when i move windows side ways |
| 05:21.04 | chavo | stinger_au, sounds like something with your graphics card or driver maybe |
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| 05:23.07 | stinger_au | i have a 7800gtx with nvidia drivers install ? or is this just me because i am use to windows ? |
| 05:25.09 | SAS_Spidey01 | mm, Homer J Simpson and posion fish |
| 05:25.17 | Renze | fugu! |
| 05:27.41 | Shirakawasunaheh | I've heard fugu is tingly |
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| 05:27.57 | Renze | yes, it's the neurotoxin left in the fish |
| 05:28.01 | Shirakawasunaheh | I could swear kde had a good audio converting program/service menu |
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| 05:30.57 | hagabaka | konsole has a feature to list and retach detached screen sessions right? |
| 05:32.21 | Renze | hagabaka: no, that's specifically a screen feature |
| 05:33.08 | hagabaka | but i used to see a list of screen sessions in the Session menu, even though i didn't launch them in Konsole |
| 05:33.26 | hagabaka | and when I select one, Konsole attaches it into a new terminal window |
| 05:33.29 | Renze | then your konsole is different from mine |
| 05:33.54 | hagabaka | yeah...i used that in Slackware, but in Kubuntu it's not there |
| 05:34.09 | hagabaka | maybe they have to be running before konsole starts... |
| 05:34.11 | Shirakawasunaheh | anyone know of a program for converting from say flac to mp3? |
| 05:34.13 | Renze | then slackware's version was modified |
| 05:34.23 | hagabaka | highly unlikely |
| 05:34.29 | Renze | hagabaka: I use screen... I have no option in konsole to attach them |
| 05:34.30 | Jucato | Renze: Konsole has a "Detach Session" feature |
| 05:34.44 | Renze | Jucato: but is it screen compatible? |
| 05:34.54 | Jucato | Renze: that I don't know. |
| 05:35.00 | Jucato | maybe he's confusing the two? |
| 05:35.25 | Renze | I think detach session just moves it to a separate window, doesn't it? |
| 05:35.40 | hagabaka | yes |
| 05:36.10 | crazy | Shirakawasunaheh: see this -> http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=37669 |
| 05:36.39 | Jucato | screen sessions != Konsole sessions |
| 05:37.01 | Shirakawasunaheh | thanks crazy, I didn't see that :). It's even in portage |
| 05:37.04 | Renze | screen is the coolest single app ever created, imo |
| 05:37.12 | crazy | np |
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| 05:41.42 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 05:41.45 | hagabaka | weird... |
| 05:41.53 | hagabaka | i'm very sure i used that in Konsole |
| 05:42.08 | Renze | hagabaka: not in vanilla kde |
| 05:42.13 | hagabaka | maybe i did use a unofficial package with modified Konsole |
| 05:42.45 | hagabaka | but how unlikely is there to be a slackware package with modified program while other distros have the original? |
| 05:43.10 | Jucato | hagabaka: screen session or konsole session? |
| 05:43.18 | Jucato | the list of Konsole sessions are in the View menu |
| 05:43.18 | hagabaka | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=58868 seems a feature request for that |
| 05:43.41 | hagabaka | Jucato: screen sessions, and they were listed at the bottom of the Session menu |
| 05:43.49 | daya1 | kwin: cannot connect to X server |
| 05:43.53 | Renze | SAS_Spidey01: I already prefer vi, so nyah! :P |
| 05:43.58 | Jucato | ah... |
| 05:44.01 | daya1 | kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server |
| 05:44.05 | daya1 | any idea about this errror |
| 05:44.08 | SAS_Spidey01 | hehe, oh well :-) |
| 05:44.09 | hagabaka | in 19754 user@host or something format |
| 05:44.14 | Renze | daya1: start X before starting kde |
| 05:45.14 | daya1 | Renze, start X start the gnome desktop |
| 05:45.17 | daya1 | Renze, I am actaully on debian based system |
| 05:45.29 | daya1 | it accidently crash my kde sytem |
| 05:45.32 | Renze | daya1: that's not my problem. ask in #debian how to change it from gnome to KDE |
| 05:45.50 | daya1 | Renze, no i don't mean that , its kde problem |
| 05:45.59 | daya1 | Renze, because it is the error of the kde |
| 05:46.05 | daya1 | Renze, isn't it. |
| 05:46.11 | Renze | daya1: the startkde script does not start X |
| 05:47.22 | Renze | daya1: this is a pebkac error, not a kde error |
| 05:47.33 | daya1 | Renze, is there is any solution , i have already started x |
| 05:47.55 | Renze | daya1: I am unfamiliar with debian and how it works, so I cannot make any suggestions |
| 05:48.20 | daya1 | Renze, what is pebkac |
| 05:48.30 | Renze | "problem exists between keyboard and chair" |
| 05:52.01 | hagabaka | Google snippet for http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/konsole/konsole/konsole.cpp?rev=526028&view=log says "List detached screen(1) sessions in the "new session" popup. On click, a new konsole session attached to that screen is opened." |
| 05:52.09 | hagabaka | but i can't find the actual log entry... |
| 05:52.47 | Renze | hagabaka: maybe it is an incomplete feature that is normally disabled, and someone enabled it (much like the ARGB feature)? |
| 05:53.23 | hagabaka | yeah, maybe. it was a little buggy; it would list sessions twice if you open them in konsole, close them, and open again |
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| 05:53.44 | Renze | I hear the ARGB stuff is awfully buggy too |
| 05:54.07 | hagabaka | is there a way to search logs on http://websvn.kde.org/ ? |
| 05:55.15 | hagabaka | what's ARGB? alpha RGB? |
| 05:55.29 | Renze | yes... real transparency |
| 06:02.27 | SAS_Spidey01 | mm Ice cream |
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| 06:02.49 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sho_: Are you around? :) |
| 06:03.07 | Renze | I'm guessing he's asleep |
| 06:03.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | Ok |
| 06:03.41 | Jucato | 14:00 - 7hrs..... probably 7am over tehre |
| 06:03.58 | Dark_Apostrophe | It is |
| 06:04.00 | Renze | and he went to bed at 5am |
| 06:04.04 | Dark_Apostrophe | I live in the same time zone as he does |
| 06:04.16 | Jucato | ouch... |
| 06:04.50 | Dark_Apostrophe | Well, I guess I'll talk to him when I come home from school. |
| 06:05.19 | Dark_Apostrophe | Anyway, could one of you do me a favour and give me a direct link to the latest nvidia proprietary blob for amd64? |
| 06:05.35 | Dark_Apostrophe | I need to wget it, I'm without X for the moment |
| 06:07.07 | Dark_Apostrophe | Guess not... |
| 06:07.21 | chavo | Dark_Apostrophe, http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/1.0-9746/NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-9746-pkg2.run |
| 06:07.32 | Dark_Apostrophe | Oh, thanks :) |
| 06:07.35 | chavo | np |
| 06:07.41 | hagabaka | it's annoying that when you double click on a word in Konqueror location bar, it selects everything in the location bar, instead of just a word |
| 06:07.56 | hagabaka | it would be better if triple-click does that instead |
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| 06:11.15 | Dark_Apostrophe | hagabaka: I disagree. I often have to copy addresses, and this way makes it easier... |
| 06:12.25 | hagabaka | it would make it even easier if single click selects all, like in Internet Explorer, but that makes it extremely difficult to edit the URL |
| 06:13.19 | hagabaka | likewise, this makes it difficult to select words, which you would do if you use the location bar for searching |
| 06:13.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | Internet Explorer is horrible for that stuff |
| 06:13.36 | Dark_Apostrophe | No wait |
| 06:13.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | Internet Explorer is horrible. |
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| 06:14.28 | hagabaka | almost everywhere else in KDE, tripple click selects all and double-click selects word |
| 06:14.44 | marcusU | When I enable transparency, after a few seconds, I get a warning that the compositing manager crashed twice within a minute and is being disabled. How to a force it to keep using the coompositing manager? |
| 06:14.48 | hagabaka | and same in firefox too |
| 06:14.50 | Jucato | actually, 3ple click selects a whole line, not all |
| 06:14.55 | Jucato | line/sentence |
| 06:15.00 | hagabaka | ok |
| 06:15.14 | hagabaka | oh, MS Word does that too |
| 06:16.26 | hagabaka | it's just inconsistent. when I want to select a word, i naturally double-click it, and then get mad seeing Konqueror select the whole line |
| 06:17.01 | hagabaka | the fact that i don't do this *that* often makes it worse, because i can't remember that Konqueror does it |
| 06:17.04 | Jucato | double click selects a while world on double click here |
| 06:17.18 | hagabaka | in Konqueror's location bar? |
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| 06:17.50 | Jucato | ah no. |
| 06:18.01 | Jucato | that's the default behavior for the location bar afaik |
| 06:18.59 | marcusU | Transparency used to work but slowly a couple distros ago. |
| 06:19.07 | hagabaka | actually, making it conform to the usual behavior doesn't even make it slower for selecting the whole URL, since it's a word |
| 06:19.28 | hagabaka | oh it's not |
| 06:20.18 | hagabaka | but still triple click doesn't cost that much more effort |
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| 06:21.43 | Jucato | maybe because the URL is considered as one long, contiguous word... |
| 06:23.11 | hagabaka | well it does that even when you have a few search terms, not an url |
| 06:23.50 | BrianSteffens | anybody here notice instability with KDevelop? |
| 06:24.33 | Jucato | hagabaka: I think the search terms is still considered a URL... |
| 06:25.17 | hagabaka | sure, if you consider everything to be a long contiguous word you can justify anything... |
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| 06:25.52 | Jucato | hagabaka: maybe the location bar widget really only considers anything entered into it as a URL |
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| 06:26.16 | hagabaka | probably |
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| 06:26.26 | hagabaka | but i'm saying it really shouldn't |
| 06:27.41 | marcusU | Yeah. It appears that double-click in the location click behaves differently from double-click in other contexts. |
| 06:30.57 | hagabaka | hmm...firefox/gtk considers a whole URL to be one word, so it only uses space as word separators. in the location bar and everywhere else |
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| 06:35.43 | hagabaka | cool, zsh completion can list the screen sessions |
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| 06:36.17 | startswithz | help! I can't configure my network settings |
| 06:36.31 | hagabaka | what network settings? |
| 06:36.32 | startswithz | I can't share a folder |
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| 06:36.51 | startswithz | I pull up the menu but everything is light gray. I can't modify anything |
| 06:37.03 | startswithz | am I missing something totally obvious? I bet I am |
| 06:37.26 | hagabaka | is there an "administration mode" button? |
| 06:38.00 | startswithz | no |
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| 06:38.03 | hagabaka | "administrator mode", on the bottom beside OK and Cancel |
| 06:38.18 | startswithz | it asks for the administrative password before I can open the window |
| 06:38.19 | hagabaka | i mean reset and apply |
| 06:38.33 | hagabaka | yes, you need to do that |
| 06:38.36 | startswithz | yeah there is the apply option |
| 06:38.47 | startswithz | but it is grayed out just like everything else |
| 06:38.48 | hagabaka | "it asks for the administrative password before I can open the window" |
| 06:39.20 | startswithz | the only things I can actually manipulate are help, ok, and cancel |
| 06:39.27 | hagabaka | ugh |
| 06:39.32 | hagabaka | just give it the password |
| 06:39.40 | startswithz | I did! |
| 06:39.43 | hagabaka | you need to do that before you can change "network settings" |
| 06:40.31 | hagabaka | after that did an area of the window get a red border? |
| 06:41.02 | hagabaka | wait for a while and those settings should display again |
| 06:41.50 | startswithz | I don't need to do anything with the permissions? |
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| 06:42.03 | startswithz | I just want to share a folder via samba. that shouldn't be hard |
| 06:42.47 | etheri | I'm getting the same behaviour - red border but everything is still greyed out |
| 06:43.00 | hagabaka | i haven't used it, not sure how you should set it up |
| 06:43.10 | hagabaka | etheri: in which settings? |
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| 06:43.37 | startswithz | ok how would you suggest I share files between two linux computers? |
| 06:43.47 | Tonren | I just downloaded the flash plugin installer from Adobe and told it to install to /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox. How do I tell it to install for Konqueror? |
| 06:44.16 | etheri | hagabaka: System Settings > Sharing > File Sharing |
| 06:44.21 | Tonren | I'm on Ubuntu 6.10 |
| 06:45.22 | chavo | Tonren, that should work for Konq also |
| 06:45.39 | Tonren | chavo: Konqueror will look in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox? |
| 06:46.01 | chavo | Tonren, sorry no it won't |
| 06:46.15 | Tonren | chavo: So, where should I tell it to install to? |
| 06:46.21 | Tonren | chavo: There's no /usr/lib/konqueror. |
| 06:46.39 | hagabaka | you can tell konqueror look there |
| 06:46.42 | chavo | Tonren, you can fix that on the settings page, or just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins |
| 06:47.13 | chavo | yeah you can add that path, I just put it in ~/.mozilla/plugins but I'm the only user here |
| 06:47.17 | hagabaka | Configure Konqueror, Plugins, on the right of the list of Scan Folders, press New |
| 06:47.20 | startswithz | hagabaka I'm going to send you a screen shot |
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| 06:48.21 | startswithz | http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/631/snapshot1pp6.png |
| 06:48.38 | Tonren | hagabaka: I added /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins, but it didn't find anything. |
| 06:49.02 | hagabaka | did you Scan for New Plugins? |
| 06:49.10 | Tonren | hagabaka: Yes |
| 06:49.18 | hagabaka | then click the Plugins tab, and see if it's in it |
| 06:49.26 | etheri | startswithz: Yup, exactly the same here, Kubuntu Edgy |
| 06:49.27 | Tonren | hagabaka: Like I said, it's not |
| 06:49.29 | hagabaka | if not, maybe the path isn't right, or the format isn't |
| 06:49.48 | startswithz | etheri any ideas? |
| 06:49.52 | Tonren | hagabaka: Format? |
| 06:50.00 | hagabaka | what's the plugin file named? |
| 06:50.36 | hagabaka | hmm |
| 06:50.44 | Tonren | libflashplayer.so |
| 06:50.47 | Tonren | I'll try agaon tomorrow |
| 06:50.49 | Tonren | Gotta get some sleep |
| 06:50.50 | Tonren | g'night! |
| 06:51.13 | etheri | startswithz: nope, none, probably a package/permissions thing or something |
| 06:51.35 | hagabaka | let me install samba and try |
| 06:51.39 | hagabaka | i use Kubuntu Edgy too |
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| 06:52.38 | startswithz | everybody uses k/ubuntu |
| 06:53.04 | thiago | except those who don't, yeah |
| 06:53.12 | etheri | lol |
| 06:53.21 | startswithz | they don't count |
| 06:54.33 | startswithz | does anybody have kubuntu/beryl? |
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| 06:55.24 | startswithz | I can't get the cube to be a cube. it insists on having 10 desktops |
| 06:55.46 | hagabaka | they get enabled for me |
| 06:56.14 | etheri | hagabaka: arg, don't I feel silly. Hadn't installed the samba package. I presumed it was up and running since I could access file shares/printers just fine. |
| 06:56.17 | hagabaka | did you install samba? |
| 06:56.20 | hagabaka | pj |
| 06:56.22 | hagabaka | *oh |
| 06:56.41 | startswithz | I have samba are there any support files that I need? |
| 06:57.05 | hagabaka | i only installed samba and kdenetwork-filesharing |
| 06:57.28 | hagabaka | i could have installed something before, but i don't remember |
| 06:58.04 | startswithz | I can't find kdenetwork-filesharing in adept installer |
| 06:58.08 | hagabaka | was there an error when configuring samba |
| 06:58.10 | hagabaka | ? |
| 06:58.20 | etheri | and I assumed that at least NFS was installed by default. startswithz: I just installed 'samba' to get it to work. Make sure to quit completely out and go back in |
| 06:58.21 | hagabaka | kdenetwork-filesharing is what gave me that configuration module |
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| 06:58.49 | startswithz | but I had samba installed before my last reboot :( |
| 06:59.55 | etheri | startswithz: oh, bummer : / |
| 07:00.43 | startswithz | I already had kdenetwork-filesharing installed according to apt-get |
| 07:00.50 | hagabaka | try reconfiguring it, remove and install again |
| 07:01.03 | hagabaka | did you change the samba configuration files manually? |
| 07:01.22 | startswithz | what do I need to change in the sambe files? |
| 07:03.52 | startswithz | hmmm this is odd |
| 07:04.11 | hagabaka | i didn't need to change it |
| 07:04.27 | startswithz | the gui add/remove software program says i have samba but apt-get says I don't |
| 07:04.28 | hagabaka | i just thought maybe you modified it incorrectly so KDE couldn't read it |
| 07:05.12 | hagabaka | i think apt-get and aptitude are much better to use than adept |
| 07:05.39 | startswithz | probably |
| 07:05.42 | startswithz | it's working now |
| 07:05.43 | startswithz | thanks guys |
| 07:06.12 | startswithz | so onto my next problem. I can't get beryl to have 4 desktops |
| 07:06.19 | startswithz | it's stuck on 10 |
| 07:06.37 | startswithz | or some other number divisible by 10 |
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| 07:13.24 | bEe_ | hi |
| 07:13.34 | bEe_ | please help me to install kdemultimedia |
| 07:14.12 | bEe_ | i have error: test for cdparanoia failed (check paranoia_init in -lcddb_paranoia) |
| 07:14.39 | bEe_ | i did objdump to libcddb_paranoia.so - there is such function |
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| 07:17.55 | crazy | bEe_: do you compile with --enable-new-ldflags ? |
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| 07:20.32 | bEe_ | i'm not shure.. |
| 07:20.45 | bEe_ | i'll try |
| 07:21.05 | bEe_ | i use emerge on gentoo |
| 07:21.21 | bEe_ | how to specify --enable-new-ldflags? |
| 07:21.44 | annma | ask in #gentoo |
| 07:21.50 | bEe_ | ok thanks a lot |
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| 07:28.12 | oneforall | ok I look in the src and see the lib dir has a readme saying you forgot to build the libs . well run configure then make and its no building them because as I see its looks for the lib ex: -lqt-mt O.o |
| 07:28.56 | oneforall | its looks/its looking |
| 07:29.06 | annma | oneforall: what app? |
| 07:29.12 | annma | what distro? |
| 07:29.12 | oneforall | qt |
| 07:29.19 | annma | qt? |
| 07:29.35 | annma | you're compiling qt manually? |
| 07:29.36 | oneforall | I'm building it for a cross compile so there is no version yet :D native compile now |
| 07:30.34 | oneforall | yes in /usr/lib64/qt |
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| 07:31.09 | oneforall | unzipped and the lib dir just has that read me. exported the paths etc |
| 07:31.31 | oneforall | but its allways erroring out because it can't find libqt-mt |
| 07:31.46 | oneforall | well thats what I'm trying to build lol |
| 07:31.56 | oneforall | catch 22 here O.o |
| 07:32.47 | Jucato | hi annma! |
| 07:32.59 | Jucato | you're in early |
| 07:32.59 | oneforall | even with pats 9slackware) script I see it deletes the qt(link) and qt-version dir so even then there goes the libs |
| 07:33.54 | annma | oneforall: you're doing something wrong, any hint in qt doc about specific 64? |
| 07:34.07 | annma | oneforall: ask in #qt maybe |
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| 07:34.52 | oneforall | oh there is a qt channel eh . will ask there then thanks |
| 07:35.03 | oneforall | never thought about that . kde to me lol |
| 07:36.07 | annma | what qt version? |
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| 07:37.15 | annma | oneforall: precise your qt version |
| 07:38.55 | oneforall | ah ok 3.3.6 |
| 07:39.14 | oneforall | hmm will look seen so many version of 326 build now :D |
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| 07:39.33 | oneforall | yeah 3.3.6 |
| 07:40.48 | annma | http://www.trolltech.com/developer/platforms/ |
| 07:41.07 | annma | have a look here, the README says this page lists potential problems |
| 07:42.08 | oneforall | http://developer.kde.org/build/stable.html ok was looking here and pats build script :) |
| 07:43.22 | annma | oneforall: this is for 32 and if you have problems you better look at the right doc |
| 07:43.34 | annma | oneforall: do you have already a qt built? |
| 07:43.39 | annma | even worse: an installed qt? |
| 07:44.27 | oneforall | no I was tring with out then I was trying to cheat with slamd64 one but thats no good cause you need to delete it any way :D |
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| 07:45.00 | oneforall | and yeah doing a 64bit |
| 07:45.15 | oneforall | so close to finished ;D |
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| 07:46.11 | oneforall | cross compiling was love hate . just perfect ;D |
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| 07:56.55 | Jucato | ok.. enough distraction/destruction from SecondLife... |
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| 08:05.53 | annma | I have a weird problem of permissions |
| 08:06.10 | Jucato | file permissions? |
| 08:06.20 | annma | my second user looses its permissions in his home |
| 08:06.29 | bssteph | has anyone seen this problem?: when i mount a usb drive through media:/, it mounts fine, but i cannot unmount it with "remove safely" |
| 08:06.35 | annma | and when I set them the first one then looses its |
| 08:06.44 | bssteph | however, issuing "dcop kded mediamanager unmount [foo]" runs fine |
| 08:06.46 | bssteph | and unmounts |
| 08:07.03 | Jucato | annma: really weird.. |
| 08:07.05 | annma | Jucato: kde4 user and user annma |
| 08:07.13 | annma | I mese |
| 08:07.18 | annma | I messed it somehow |
| 08:07.23 | Jucato | they don't happen to have the same UID? |
| 08:07.25 | annma | but I don't see where |
| 08:07.36 | annma | oh maybe, how do I check? |
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| 08:08.03 | Jucato | er.. darn.. I forgot the command... |
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| 08:08.14 | annma | running Mandriva conf tool |
| 08:08.38 | Jucato | $ id |
| 08:08.39 | bssteph | you could just grep /etc/passwd ;) |
| 08:09.10 | Jucato | oh that too... |
| 08:09.22 | annma | uid=500(annma) gid=500(annma) groups=500(annma) |
| 08:09.30 | Jucato | how about kde4? |
| 08:09.37 | annma | uid=501(kde4) gid=501(kde4) groups=501(kde4) |
| 08:09.50 | Jucato | hm... strange... |
| 08:09.56 | annma | I need to fix it asap |
| 08:10.07 | Jucato | and my being disoriented for the past days doesn't help... |
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| 08:11.03 | annma | ;) |
| 08:11.18 | annma | maybe i'll create a new kdedev user |
| 08:11.35 | Jucato | annma: sorry I couldn't be of any help... |
| 08:11.46 | annma | I messed with NVidia drivers and my user annma could not log in to X |
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| 08:11.56 | annma | no problem Jucato |
| 08:12.24 | Jucato | thought this would be a good moment to help you... but then.. I'm as ignorant as I can be... oh well... |
| 08:12.48 | annma | not at all, you know id and I did not |
| 08:13.07 | Jucato | heh... unfortunately it did nothing to help :D |
| 08:14.06 | Jucato | international characters, printing, and mounting... |
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| 08:14.35 | apokryphos | annma: what's the exact error? |
| 08:14.37 | annma | your dead keys don't work? |
| 08:14.47 | Jucato | me waves to apokryphos |
| 08:14.53 | annma | apokryphos: my kde4 user has not permissions in his home |
| 08:14.53 | apokryphos | hi Jucato 8) |
| 08:15.12 | Jucato | annma: yes... though I could have sworn they worked for a few moments on this compiled kde... |
| 08:15.23 | annma | apokryphos: now for ex I gave chown to kde' user and annma ends up |
| 08:15.32 | annma | -rw-rw-r-- 1 kde4 annma 9 Jan 11 17:49 .xinitrc |
| 08:15.43 | apokryphos | heh |
| 08:15.47 | annma | it also changes the permission in the other user's home |
| 08:15.59 | apokryphos | you really can't have two users with one home |
| 08:16.02 | Jucato | they really belong to the same group? |
| 08:16.04 | annma | as I run kde4 within annma I have problems |
| 08:16.12 | annma | they don't have the same home |
| 08:16.21 | annma | they have separate homes |
| 08:17.06 | apokryphos | ok, just that the kde4 user didn't have permissions |
| 08:17.11 | apokryphos | recursive chown? |
| 08:17.13 | annma | but somehow permissions for one sets permissions in the other's home |
| 08:17.21 | annma | yes |
| 08:17.33 | annma | chow -R yes |
| 08:17.33 | apokryphos | curious |
| 08:17.49 | annma | yes |
| 08:17.49 | apokryphos | any weird symlinks? |
| 08:18.02 | annma | not that I know of but maybe |
| 08:18.11 | Jucato | chown -R kde4:annma /home/kde4 ? |
| 08:18.14 | annma | any hint I can follow is useful |
| 08:18.31 | annma | Jucato: what does that do? |
| 08:18.44 | annma | at the moment I need kde4 working as I compile some stuff |
| 08:18.47 | apokryphos | recursive chown to user kde4 and group annma |
| 08:18.53 | Jucato | how are you giving the home folder to the kde4 user? |
| 08:19.01 | Jucato | command line or something? |
| 08:19.09 | annma | kde4 home is /home/kde4 |
| 08:19.19 | annma | when I boot annma is fine |
| 08:19.26 | annma | but then I su - kde4 |
| 08:19.34 | annma | to work on kde4 stuff |
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| 08:19.43 | annma | and kde4 user has annma permissions in his home |
| 08:20.15 | annma | thus kde4 stuff does not compile as it needs access to /home/kde4 |
| 08:20.19 | apokryphos | annma: does mandriva set up uers with their username as group name? |
| 08:20.39 | annma | yes |
| 08:20.54 | annma | it worked previously, I messed it |
| 08:20.57 | apokryphos | try Jucato's chown above |
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| 08:21.15 | Jucato | mine? :O |
| 08:21.20 | annma | ok waiting for the kde4 user to finish comiling kdelibs |
| 08:22.01 | apokryphos | no harm in also nuking your current ~/.xinitrc and ~/.*authority |
| 08:22.03 | annma | lol, don't worry |
| 08:22.28 | apokryphos | Jucato: everything in a user's home should be owned by them, anyhow |
| 08:22.34 | annma | maybe I should backup all the kde4 home |
| 08:22.36 | Jucato | I thought it was standard that the first user always gets a uid of 1000 |
| 08:22.42 | bssteph | any guesses on my problem? one KDE method of unmounting usb drives works, but not the other |
| 08:22.44 | apokryphos | current (as in kde4's ) |
| 08:22.47 | Jucato | oooh that's going to be a lot... |
| 08:24.37 | apokryphos | no need to backup yet IMO |
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| 08:25.56 | annma | it seems removing .Xauthority in /home/kde4 did the trick |
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| 08:26.24 | annma | I seem to be able to set the correct permissions to both! |
| 08:26.24 | Jucato | yay! |
| 08:26.31 | annma | yeepeeeeeeeeee |
| 08:26.34 | apokryphos | nice |
| 08:26.39 | annma | thanks a lot apokryphos and Jucato |
| 08:26.53 | Jucato | annma: what did I do? :) |
| 08:27.06 | annma | you cared |
| 08:27.13 | Jucato | :) |
| 08:27.32 | Jucato | now if only I could get rid of this pending migraine... |
| 08:27.48 | annma | :( |
| 08:28.02 | apokryphos | water and rest =) |
| 08:28.18 | Jucato | this is what I get for trying to deny/ignore the existence of work... |
| 08:29.33 | Jucato | annma: no new patches are uploaded/considered while 3.5.6 hasn't been released yet, right? |
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| 08:31.56 | apokryphos | Jucato: don't kubuntu provide regular snapshots? |
| 08:32.16 | Jucato | apokryphos: they do. but I'm not running Kubuntu's KDE packages |
| 08:32.34 | Jucato | (which is a slight problem when it comes to testing and developing...) |
| 08:32.44 | apokryphos | I doubt they're customising it much :P |
| 08:32.57 | Jucato | oh they are... :) |
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| 08:33.02 | apokryphos | in what way? |
| 08:33.22 | annma | I have a fail in kdelibs after svn up in fact Jucato |
| 08:33.31 | Jucato | annma: branches? |
| 08:33.36 | annma | kdelibs/kjs |
| 08:33.38 | annma | I am looking in websvn |
| 08:33.43 | annma | yes, 3.5 |
| 08:33.50 | Jucato | uh oh... thanks for the warning. |
| 08:34.01 | apokryphos | mandriva snapshots available too, it seems :P |
| 08:34.10 | Jucato | apokryphos: I can list 3 or 4 things they changed in Konqueror |
| 08:34.24 | apokryphos | menu structure and stuff? |
| 08:34.31 | Jucato | more than that |
| 08:34.34 | apokryphos | can't believe they're changing that already.... |
| 08:34.55 | Jucato | media:/ vs /media, hidden root folders, |
| 08:35.01 | apokryphos | though I guess they want to gradually add more and more things till it all works |
| 08:35.03 | Jucato | Konqueror profiles (removed, not hidden) |
| 08:35.11 | annma | hmm no changes in kdelibs/kjs, time for make clean |
| 08:35.16 | apokryphos | still, doesn't seem like a great idea |
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| 08:37.53 | Jucato | huh? basket isn't in KDE SVN?? |
| 08:38.44 | annma | my error was only a stale .o Jucato |
| 08:38.48 | annma | make clean fixed it |
| 08:38.59 | Jucato | annma: oh |
| 08:39.20 | Jucato | annma: where/when do they get the contents for tags/ ? |
| 08:39.40 | annma | the tag was done a few days ago |
| 08:39.52 | annma | coolo decides when to do it |
| 08:40.10 | annma | I mean he sends a mail saying when he'll tag |
| 08:40.28 | Jucato | aahh |
| 08:40.54 | Jucato | and from the freeze up to that point, no uploads to branches/KDE/3.5/ are allowed? |
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| 08:41.23 | annma | no th etag is done and then I think you can still do bugfixes |
| 08:41.32 | annma | except these won't be in the release |
| 08:42.13 | Jucato | ah. I should have update kdelibs and kdebase a few days ago, to sort of match it to what would be released as 3.5.6... |
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| 08:42.34 | annma | or get the tag |
| 08:42.56 | Jucato | yeah, but then what would be the use of having compiled branches... hehehe :) |
| 08:43.06 | Jucato | anyway, I took that "risk"... |
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| 08:50.32 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 08:50.43 | Q-collective | what is the ETA on 3.5.6 btw? |
| 08:51.08 | annma | nearly out |
| 08:51.12 | Q-collective | and if someone says "when it's ready", I'm gonna shoot someone |
| 08:51.15 | Q-collective | ah, ok |
| 08:51.22 | annma | in a few days, packagers are packaging |
| 08:51.29 | Q-collective | great :) |
| 08:51.43 | canllaith | When it's ready. |
| 08:51.51 | Jucato | hahaha! |
| 08:53.34 | annma | hi canllaith |
| 08:53.35 | Jucato | annma: um... could you please remind me again.. if I do an "svn up", do I need to do "make -f Makefile.cvs" again, or just "make && make install"? |
| 08:53.39 | annma | ;) |
| 08:53.54 | annma | just make && make install |
| 08:54.01 | Jucato | ah kool :) |
| 08:54.02 | annma | except if it fails for some read=son |
| 08:54.03 | Tuju | what was the kde svn client? |
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| 08:54.27 | Jucato | hm.. read=son... that's a very nice typo :) |
| 08:55.18 | annma | lol |
| 08:55.31 | annma | I don't master this keyboard at all |
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| 09:00.16 | Jucato | cool... seems like some bugs were fixed for kompmgr... might give it a try.... again... |
| 09:02.52 | MrGrim | Jucato: what? when? where? |
| 09:03.16 | Jucato | just 2 commits... |
| 09:03.22 | Jucato | Fix X resources leaks in kompmgr. See SVN commits 603872 and 603904. |
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| 09:06.26 | Jucato | ha! so it's not only Kaffeine that does the reverse mouse wheel thing.. |
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| 09:09.08 | saintiss | hi all |
| 09:09.22 | saintiss | is there a known problem with konqueror being unable to access https sites? |
| 09:10.16 | PhilRod | there's one bug I know of with a particular site, but I haven't heard of general problems |
| 09:10.27 | PhilRod | apart from openssl being very sensitive to changes in version |
| 09:10.42 | saintiss | PhilRod: well, I always get "unable to connect to host" |
| 09:10.52 | Jucato | no problems here |
| 09:11.03 | PhilRod | hiya Jucato :-) |
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| 09:11.05 | saintiss | in my cryptography config, the test to load openssl works |
| 09:11.11 | saintiss | I have v2 and v3 enabled |
| 09:11.30 | saintiss | PhilRod: but isn't konqueror supposed to be linked with libssl? |
| 09:11.35 | saintiss | because ldd shows it's not |
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| 09:12.13 | saintiss | hmm, actually it doesn't seem to be EVERY https site |
| 09:12.30 | saintiss | a number of internet banking sites though |
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| 09:13.24 | benJIman | saintiss: Are you using gentoo? |
| 09:13.31 | saintiss | benJIman: no, debian |
| 09:13.39 | benJIman | Hmm |
| 09:13.46 | benJIman | Usually the gentoo users who have such problems |
| 09:15.06 | PhilRod | saintiss: I guess kio_https is the thing that's linked against openssl |
| 09:16.25 | canllaith | golly |
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| 09:16.30 | PhilRod | problems with openssl quite often happen on freebsd too, but that has some vague similarities to gentoo in terms of packaging |
| 09:16.35 | PhilRod | hiya canllaith! |
| 09:16.38 | canllaith | one gets a free graphics card with a dell 30" monitor |
| 09:16.39 | saintiss | ic |
| 09:16.43 | canllaith | ullo PhilRod :) |
| 09:17.00 | PhilRod | 30" monitor? yowch |
| 09:17.18 | PhilRod | presumably, with the amount they cost, you could get a free car or something :-) |
| 09:20.05 | PhilRod | work time |
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| 10:16.16 | XVampireX | I'm getting pissed at KDE |
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| 10:16.44 | XVampireX | The themes that I like don't work well |
| 10:16.49 | XVampireX | >_< |
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| 10:20.36 | Tm_T | Jucato: Watch out for scratches in your upper hull. |
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| 10:21.16 | Jucato | WARNING: Logical unit in dire need of replacement. Please contact your local mental dealer immediately |
| 10:21.32 | Tm_T | ;) |
| 10:22.18 | Jucato | looks like I have to svn up all KDE modules from branch... |
| 10:22.33 | Tm_T | Nice! |
| 10:22.44 | Jucato | very |
| 10:23.02 | Jucato | just finishing make install of kdelibs now... kdebase coming soon |
| 10:23.35 | Jucato | Tm_T: btw, why the need to stay with a particular Kubuntu release to play around with KDE4? |
| 10:24.41 | Jucato | Tm_T: you might be better of building from SVN |
| 10:27.22 | Tm_T | Jucato: I do build from svn BUT if Feisty is broken or soon-to-be-broken in that area... |
| 10:27.55 | Jucato | Tm_T: the KDE4 packages are packaged and installed separately anyway... |
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| 10:28.24 | Jucato | I mean, they are installed in such a way that it doesn't conflict with an existing KDE 3.x system |
| 10:28.26 | Tm_T | Jucato: I don'y use KDE4 packages, I mean the base for build them. |
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| 10:28.31 | Jucato | aaah |
| 10:28.43 | Tm_T | Jucato: I know how to build KDE4, already have it. |
| 10:28.45 | Tm_T | ;) |
| 10:28.59 | Jucato | base build? as in the Kubuntu KDE4 packages? |
| 10:29.08 | Jucato | I was talking about how Kubuntu installs the kde4 packages :) |
| 10:29.21 | Jucato | bah nvm me... |
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| 10:29.26 | Tm_T | =) |
| 10:30.22 | Tm_T | Well, I mean if gcc or let's say libpng or some other stuff got broken then no way I can play with KDE4 (playing means: compile and use and recompile) |
| 10:31.23 | Jucato | hm... yeah... |
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| 10:40.20 | mdeanda | can somebody help me out a little with putting an app in the system tray a little? |
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| 10:41.28 | mdeanda | this is what i have if anybody is interested: http://java.pastebin.ca/321372 |
| 10:42.33 | mdeanda | anyway, my problem is that i want to click on the X (to close the window) and have it keep running the system tray. until you right click on its systray icon, then select close. |
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| 10:56.11 | flaccid | i'm on freebsd can i get more languages. ie. i need british english/australia not US |
| 10:56.18 | flaccid | for date/time format, currenty etc. |
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| 10:57.54 | Renze | flaccid: search ports for kde-i18n |
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| 10:59.17 | mdeanda | nevermind.. i figured it out... |
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| 11:02.30 | flaccid | thanks Renze |
| 11:02.36 | Renze | no problem |
| 11:02.57 | flaccid | doesn't make sense to do 01/19/2007 |
| 11:03.25 | flaccid | hmm thats weird |
| 11:03.30 | flaccid | seems that opera is the one thats doing it |
| 11:03.34 | wm161|away | that looks normal to me |
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| 11:03.46 | Renze | wm161|away: that's only normal in north america |
| 11:03.46 | flaccid | month/day/year |
| 11:04.00 | flaccid | month/day/year wtf? |
| 11:04.17 | Renze | civilised countries use day/month/year ;) |
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| 11:05.09 | wm161|away | I prefer to read it as it is said: month/day/year :) |
| 11:05.27 | flaccid | thats coz ur used to it |
| 11:05.33 | flaccid | is it logical, no :p |
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| 11:26.29 | swanfl | can anyone here help me with grub? |
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| 11:27.28 | Jucato | swanfl: best ask in your distro's support channel, since GRUB has very little to do with KDE... |
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| 12:06.24 | jworkman | Does anyone know if 2.16.9 is the current distro for NVIDIA? |
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| 12:09.59 | XVampireX | jworkman: 2.16.9? |
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| 12:10.01 | DobosCake | hi |
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| 12:10.10 | XVampireX | jworkman: Have any idea what you're talking about? |
| 12:10.12 | DobosCake | Where can I edit the entries in the boot manager from KDE? |
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| 12:23.04 | thiago | DobosCake: in /boot/grub/menu.lst (if you're using GRUB) |
| 12:23.22 | DobosCake | thiago - no GUI for that? |
| 12:23.27 | thiago | no |
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| 12:24.33 | thiago | your distribution may have a GUI, though |
| 12:24.35 | thiago | I know Mandriva does |
| 12:24.43 | simmerz | if I have kde running on a machine at home and I'm at work - I can access that home machine via ssh - can I invoke krfb on that machine? |
| 12:25.46 | thiago | you want NX |
| 12:25.57 | simmerz | thiago: NX? |
| 12:26.58 | simmerz | ah right. im looking, but i already have X running and i can't kill it. else I'd get the vnc driver running and use that instead. its busy doing something. |
| 12:27.19 | simmerz | i want to check its progress, but I can't do that if I don't have krfb running. |
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| 12:31.07 | simmerz | thiago: is that possible? |
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| 12:31.42 | thiago | you can start krfb and see the running screen |
| 12:31.52 | thiago | last time I tried, krfb would consume 100% of the CPU and do nothing |
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| 12:31.58 | simmerz | thiago: can i invoke krfb over ssh? |
| 12:32.00 | thiago | NX is way better, but you need a dedicated NX session |
| 12:32.04 | simmerz | i dont have it running and im not at home |
| 12:32.17 | thiago | simmerz: not sure. You need to create the invitation. |
| 12:32.22 | thiago | I don't know how to do that remotely. |
| 12:32.41 | simmerz | thiago: im sure it can be configured to allow uninvited connections via a text file |
| 12:32.47 | simmerz | i know it can be done in the gui |
| 12:32.57 | thiago | aye |
| 12:33.00 | thiago | that much is true |
| 12:33.18 | simmerz | so i can invoke it to run remotely and on the remote screen via ssh? |
| 12:34.33 | thiago | I think so |
| 12:34.40 | simmerz | thiago: any idea how? |
| 12:34.42 | thiago | no |
| 12:34.56 | simmerz | ok thanks anyhow. |
| 12:34.58 | thiago | like I said, you want NX for the next time :-) |
| 12:35.04 | simmerz | much appreciated. going to lunch now. |
| 12:35.07 | simmerz | yeah fair enough |
| 12:35.31 | simmerz | as opposed to the vnc driver for xorg? |
| 12:35.49 | simmerz | lunch now anyway. thanks. |
| 12:37.41 | LaptopKii | Hey, is there a way to set fluxbox as the window manager for kde? (as in, in kde preferences). I know that gnome has a reasonably simple method of doing this, but I can't quite find a similar option in kde. And I don't really want to use gnome. |
| 12:38.18 | thiago | LaptopKii: yes, it's possible |
| 12:38.29 | thiago | set KDEWM to point to the fluxbox executable before starting KDE |
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| 12:38.37 | pinotree | ~kdewm |
| 12:38.48 | apt | You can change the window manager used by KDE with the $KDEWM environment variable. See http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ |
| 12:38.53 | pinotree | LaptopKii: ^^ |
| 12:39.10 | LaptopKii | Ah :) Thank you |
| 12:39.54 | LaptopKii | Not even a day of using kde on my laptop and I already miss being able to group windows :/ |
| 12:40.23 | phlux | Hmm..I can't start konqueror :\ |
| 12:40.35 | phlux | says KLauncher could not be reached via DCOP |
| 12:40.40 | thiago | LaptopKii: on the taskbar? |
| 12:40.44 | thiago | phlux: is klauncher running? |
| 12:41.18 | phlux | Don't know how to start it, tbh |
| 12:41.43 | LaptopKii | thiago: No, fluxbox has a feature where you middle click and drag windows onto each other, they tab together. Hugely useful. |
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| 12:42.20 | thiago | maybe in KDE4 |
| 12:42.28 | phlux | klauncher is running, thiago. |
| 12:42.45 | LaptopKii | I'll use fluxbox as window manager until then :) |
| 12:43.00 | thiago | phlux: is dcopserver running? |
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| 12:43.22 | phlux | thiago, it says it is |
| 12:43.48 | phlux | yeah it is |
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| 12:50.17 | LaptopKii | Well that didn't work wonderfully :p I'm probably putting it in the wrong file *fiddles* |
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| 12:54.16 | jamesots | I just ran kmag on my computer and it was really slow updating, so I created and logged in as a brand new user, and it was really quick and smooth. Even though I was logged into both users at the same time, so there was no difference in cpu usage overall. |
| 12:54.31 | jamesots | Why would kmag slow down on one user and not the other? |
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| 13:27.23 | loki_val | Hello. I'm fiddling with a uClibc install. Does anyone know of any resources to get KDE to compile with uClibc? |
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| 13:29.20 | MrGrim | fraid I don't... isn't the point of uclibc size? :P |
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| 13:31.47 | loki_val | MrGrim: Yes, I suppose it is. It's just a 'neat' thing, if I could get it to work. |
| 13:32.07 | MrGrim | ya I get that :) |
| 13:32.20 | Drakeson | In a dual-head X setup without xinerama, does kwin somehow honor the edge between monitors? (snap to the edge, maximize in one monitor, ...) |
| 13:32.27 | MrGrim | the thought crossed my mind when I create a small linux system to serve AoE |
| 13:33.07 | MrGrim | Drakeson: w/o xinerama X will start two distinct sessions won't it? |
| 13:33.22 | Drakeson | not under nvidia's twin-view |
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| 13:34.52 | Drakeson | I cannot remember clearly, I think there was an annoying problem with xinerama so I turned it off. |
| 13:36.00 | Drakeson | so I am restricted to nvidia's twin view. (having two separate X sessions is also a bit annoying since you cannot move a window between them) |
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| 13:48.52 | znoG | hey all. I'm trying to figure out where KDE stores the K menu. Any ideas? |
| 13:49.05 | znoG | i've deleted the .kde directory to get KDE to re-create it, but it still comes up with the old one. |
| 13:49.11 | znoG | Tried renaming .config too and same result |
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| 14:01.46 | delaril | hi people, I'm wondering whether it is possible to make the entire menubar translucent when having the current application's menubar on the top of the screen? |
| 14:02.08 | delaril | because at the moment, only the area without text is translucent |
| 14:02.42 | delaril | (I'm using Arch Linux, running KDE 3.5.5 and Beryl) |
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| 14:05.50 | delaril | ehm. now it seems to be working correctly. don't know why |
| 14:07.07 | Daverocks | delaril: i often find that kde suddenly automagically works at random times |
| 14:07.15 | Daverocks | it's quite weird |
| 14:07.59 | LaptopKii | hm. Well changing KDE's window manager wouldn't work while i had kdm as my display manager, (following this guide I was provided with in here : http://ktown.kde.org/~seli/kdewm/ ), but it seems to work fine with gdm, which I prefer, anyway. ^_^ And here I had been hoping to have a nice, simple, kde based system, without mixing and matching bits like I normally do :p |
| 14:08.17 | LaptopKii | you know, just in case anyone who helped me is still around. |
| 14:08.27 | LaptopKii | ... I think it's been a few hours :/ |
| 14:08.37 | Daverocks | heh |
| 14:08.50 | delaril | Daverocks: hehe. I didn't even notice when it changed |
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| 14:53.49 | HardDisk_WP | hello |
| 14:54.31 | HardDisk_WP | i use kde 3.5. any way to organize the desktop to special "areas" like activedesktop on windows? |
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| 14:56.34 | pinotree | HardDisk_WP: you have up to 20 vistula desktop where work |
| 14:56.38 | pinotree | err |
| 14:56.41 | pinotree | *virtual |
| 14:56.47 | HardDisk_WP | pinotree, no virtual desktops |
| 14:56.56 | HardDisk_WP | i mean to have one area for drive icons |
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| 14:57.02 | HardDisk_WP | and one for files |
| 14:57.06 | HardDisk_WP | and one for directories |
| 14:58.16 | MrGrim | HardDisk_WP: not without some programming |
| 14:58.40 | HardDisk_WP | MrGrim, in html or C? |
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| 14:59.12 | MrGrim | maybe both.. there is a web desktop thingie.. I've never used it |
| 14:59.36 | HardDisk_WP | MrGrim, :(... |
| 14:59.45 | HardDisk_WP | i hate it that every boot all icons are at other places |
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| 15:22.07 | gdiebel | HardDisk_WP: the icons moving about is of course optional. you can disable automatically line up icons |
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| 15:29.41 | HardDisk_WP | gdiebel, i mean, one time the storage icons appear in the upper left corner, other times left dowen corner etc |
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| 15:33.22 | kubuntian | hi there, i would like to ask you a little help, if there's anybody of you who has a knowledge of random number generators, could you tell me where i can find a clear and FAST to program (even if it is already written) pseudo-random generator? |
| 15:33.37 | HardDisk_WP | kubuntian, /dev/random |
| 15:33.42 | kubuntian | oh |
| 15:33.45 | kubuntian | thanks :) |
| 15:33.49 | loki_val | just cat it. |
| 15:33.52 | kubuntian | nono |
| 15:33.54 | HardDisk_WP | kubuntian, do cat /dev/random |
| 15:33.56 | annma | KRandomSequence |
| 15:34.05 | kubuntian | i have to do a statistical test on its results |
| 15:34.12 | kubuntian | i need the algorithm |
| 15:34.32 | annma | school assignment? |
| 15:34.32 | loki_val | kubuntian: kernel.org |
| 15:34.45 | kubuntian | nono |
| 15:34.45 | lotyrin | kubuntian: if you want a prng that's fast you should use /dev/urandom |
| 15:34.56 | HardDisk_WP | kubuntian, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki//dev/random |
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| 15:36.33 | kubuntian | for example... which algoright /dev/random uses? |
| 15:36.41 | kubuntian | algorithm* |
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| 15:36.52 | lotyrin | kubuntian: it gathers entropy from devices. |
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| 15:37.04 | kubuntian | oh |
| 15:37.13 | lotyrin | not sure exactly how. |
| 15:37.14 | kubuntian | well, can't use that one .. |
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| 15:37.22 | lotyrin | urandom is a prng |
| 15:37.27 | lotyrin | and uses some algo. |
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| 15:37.52 | lotyrin | so that's probably what you want. |
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| 15:41.22 | ijwyn | hello all, I'm having a bit of an issue: kooka is not recognizing my scanner, can anyone help with this? |
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| 15:41.50 | ijwyn | (I should note that both xsane and iscan recognize it fine, and it's also showing in the MCC, Mandriva's Control Center) |
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| 15:42.38 | ijwyn | I'm using Mandriva 2006 and KDE 3.4.2 |
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| 15:56.05 | redondos | Hello. Is it possible to make the icons in the system tray smaller? |
| 15:56.14 | redondos | They're just taking up too much space. |
| 15:56.34 | redondos | I know I can hide them, but I just want them smaller. |
| 15:57.10 | simmerz | thiago: I found a solution, x11vnc can be attached to a running X session. |
| 15:57.45 | thiago | simmerz: good to know |
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| 15:58.17 | simmerz | thiago: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_x11vnc |
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| 15:58.29 | simmerz | and remove the "localhost" entry from the config. |
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| 16:00.00 | ijwyn | redondos: try right-clicking on the panel, then 'configure panel', in the last entry on that screen (size) select 'custom' then experiment with the pixel sizes |
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| 16:00.27 | ijwyn | it'll affect the whole panel, though, not sure if you can just change the icons without affecting the rest |
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| 16:08.43 | redondos | ijwyn: Thanks, but the point in resizing just the icons is that they're taking up too much space on the panel. By resizing everything proportionally, the percentage of space taken will not change much. |
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| 16:08.54 | LaptopKii | Ah, whoops. That'll teach me not to press buttons |
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| 16:20.53 | ijwyn | redondos: true... dunno if what you want can be done, though, as smaller icons would make it look a bit weird on the panel unless they could be re-arranged on two rows, hrm, go figure |
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| 16:27.28 | thadood | is there any way to modify the KDE start menu so it doesnt look so gay ? |
| 16:27.36 | thadood | like customize it ? |
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| 16:29.05 | thadood | is there anybody out there ? |
| 16:29.58 | annma | just ask your question |
| 16:30.25 | ijwyn | you could change the look of the K Menu but changing the desktop theme |
| 16:30.30 | ijwyn | *by changing |
| 16:30.34 | Shaman` | gay |
| 16:30.58 | Shaman` | you mean like, there are genitals with same sex partners working on them in your kde menu? |
| 16:31.05 | Shaman` | that's absurd |
| 16:31.12 | thadood | well , there has to be some sort of way to theme KDE , is there any downloadable installable custom themes for KDE ? |
| 16:31.20 | thadood | yeah i know , it is absurd |
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| 16:31.32 | FuzZy2007 | anybody using the svn? is ./makeall enough for updating? |
| 16:31.52 | ijwyn | thadood: you should already have a bunch of default themes available |
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| 16:32.50 | thadood | welll uhhh , the yeah i guess so , but those themes suck |
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| 16:32.50 | annma | FuzZy2007: makeall? |
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| 16:33.08 | thadood | i mean are there any NON crappy themes ? |
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| 16:33.35 | ijwyn | heh, I guess it depends on your tastes then |
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| 16:33.54 | ijwyn | I never went there, but I think they have a website just with themes, something kde-look.org |
| 16:33.56 | Jucato | annma: I forgot to ask you something earlier... and ended up finding out the answer myself... :( |
| 16:34.07 | annma | ;) |
| 16:34.11 | Jucato | after kinda "messing up" a bit... |
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| 16:34.18 | annma | ohh, poor you |
| 16:34.22 | thadood | you know those bullshit hollywood movies where you see a computer screen that looks all leet like ? well im going for that look |
| 16:34.38 | Jucato | annma: I was going to ask if the DO_NOT_COMPILE option is remembered... apparently it isn't... |
| 16:36.06 | ijwyn | thadood: www.kde-look.org is the site I was thinking of, just double checked, it has a bunch of stuff on there, maybe you'll find what you're looking for |
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| 16:36.25 | thadood | yeah , im going to it now , it is free right ? |
| 16:36.31 | ijwyn | yep |
| 16:36.38 | ijwyn | everything in linux is :-) |
| 16:37.02 | inimesekene | Why is kde soooooo slooooowww? i mean gnome is lightning fast |
| 16:37.19 | thadood | gnome ? |
| 16:37.23 | thadood | i hate gnomes |
| 16:37.27 | thadood | >:D |
| 16:37.42 | inimesekene | yeah, that's not the point |
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| 16:37.58 | Desintegr | KDE slow ? |
| 16:38.04 | gdiebel | they are so small and inconsequential. you might step on one if you are not careful |
| 16:38.08 | inimesekene | even if i start the gnome panel onder kde it's still very fast |
| 16:38.12 | ijwyn | I don't find it slow *shrugs* |
| 16:38.21 | inimesekene | but the k menu is sloww |
| 16:38.51 | Desintegr | Kmenu is fast @home |
| 16:38.56 | ijwyn | here too |
| 16:39.12 | inimesekene | maybe a sabayon thing? |
| 16:40.27 | galaxy | inimesekene: listen.. gnome has a shitload of serious architectual issues that they wont come along.. not even with gnome 3 (if it ever reaches light). |
| 16:40.27 | oGALAXYo | so its not a matter of "slow" or fast .. |
| 16:40.34 | oGALAXYo | its a matter of "which DE has the better architecture".. |
| 16:40.41 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, nah i'm not trying to promote anything here |
| 16:40.45 | oGALAXYo | the underlaying framework is the key for better applications.. |
| 16:41.02 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: you dont need to promote gnome to me.. i contributed to it for close to 7 years now. |
| 16:41.19 | oGALAXYo | i know it perfectly... internal and external. as well as the community and development team around it. |
| 16:42.19 | oGALAXYo | the ones to blame for slow code is probably (and that wouldnt be really fair either) the GCC people.. |
| 16:42.42 | oGALAXYo | and the C++ support which was a problem for many years.. generating high performance and well optimized code. |
| 16:43.50 | oGALAXYo | to say the truth. even the C generated code isnt really performant.. there are plenty of commercial or architectual dependant alternative compilers that generate much better and much faster code.. |
| 16:43.50 | inimesekene | kde draws windows slowly and menus slowly etc... |
| 16:43.50 | inimesekene | dunno why |
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| 16:43.51 | oGALAXYo | vbcc for morphos (powerpc) generates much better and faster code than for example gcc |
| 16:43.54 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: what distro, what kde version ? |
| 16:44.07 | inimesekene | kde 3.5.5 using sabayon 3.2 |
| 16:44.23 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: on my gnome the menues take much longer to show up than the ones from kde. |
| 16:44.38 | inimesekene | just the opposite over here |
| 16:44.40 | oGALAXYo | maybe we talk about different gnome desktops here.. i dont know what you use.. |
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| 16:45.17 | inimesekene | i *think* it's 2.16 |
| 16:45.32 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: before you continue talking. try printing 2 pages of PDF document with evince on one piece of paper.. then we can continue talking about gnome. |
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| 16:46.00 | eeos | hi there. |
| 16:46.07 | inimesekene | hello |
| 16:46.15 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: before looking too close into "speed issues" you should first look into functionality... if you get basic stuff running and doing correctly... example is printing under gnome... |
| 16:46.25 | eeos | we would like to synchornise konqueror's bookmark across several computers in a group. |
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| 16:46.39 | eeos | did not find anything in the documentation. any clue? |
| 16:47.09 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: another example is not beating the hell out of evolution for mailing.. so please.. before complaining about speed.. get your facts right.. i am quite pissed off about people who try to promote gnome as some sort of best desktop.. while in reality its nothing more than a pile of freaking junk. |
| 16:47.18 | oGALAXYo | not doing anything.. not doing half of it right. |
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| 16:47.50 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, told you i'm not trying to promote anything here |
| 16:48.06 | oGALAXYo | i dont either.. |
| 16:48.13 | oGALAXYo | just stating some facts. |
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| 16:48.16 | sun_ | where can I find this emoticons for GAIM: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=26487 ? |
| 16:48.18 | Fahrenheit | Hello, can I connect to an ssh server (with a password) with ksysguard to get ksysguardd informations ? |
| 16:48.38 | Fahrenheit | I'm trying but it doesn't work, it don't ask me any password |
| 16:49.37 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, yeah, maybe, but you are telling it like you were angry and shouting |
| 16:50.09 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: how do you know... there are just two wires between you and me.. you dont know how i feel and what my mood is. |
| 16:50.28 | inimesekene | but i can read this text |
| 16:50.37 | inimesekene | and it's not very kind looking |
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| 16:50.52 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: i bet you are just one of those people coming here for the general trolling.. i bet you know who i am because you can read plenty about me everywhere and there are a lot of idiots shouting crap about me.. just go on and repeat it. |
| 16:50.59 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: no... its not.. |
| 16:51.13 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, who are you , then? |
| 16:51.23 | inimesekene | you need to loosen up a bit, man |
| 16:51.36 | inimesekene | we're all friends here |
| 16:51.40 | thadood | GALAXY ARE YOU L33T ENOUGH ? |
| 16:51.46 | thiago | Fahrenheit: not sure it asks for password at all |
| 16:52.10 | thiago | Fahrenheit: my advice is to use a public key authentication, without password (or via ssh-agent) |
| 16:52.33 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: friends dont come in here saying "gnome is fast.. kde is sooooooo slow.. slow redrawing.." a) this chan is full of kde developers who might feel upset and demotivated.. b) this belongs to bugs.kde.org |
| 16:52.33 | Fahrenheit | > thiago : ok, I will try, thanks |
| 16:52.36 | eeos | we would like to synchornise konqueror's bookmark across several computers in a group. did not find anything in the documentation. any clue? |
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| 16:52.50 | thiago | eeos: copy the bookmark file |
| 16:53.05 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, i'm sorry for this |
| 16:53.07 | pinotree | oops, wrong channel ;) |
| 16:53.14 | eeos | thiago that is not exactly synchronising is it? :) |
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| 16:53.48 | thiago | eeos: you can share the file via NFS if you want |
| 16:53.54 | SimAtWork | pinotree: wrong channel, b ut what is that? |
| 16:53.55 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, i was merely hoping to get to know more about this |
| 16:53.59 | SimAtWork | pinotree: is it on magnatune? |
| 16:54.11 | pinotree | SimAtWork: no, it's on my hd :) |
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| 16:54.15 | JohnFlux | Fahrenheit: yes you can |
| 16:54.17 | SimAtWork | drat |
| 16:54.17 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: i wrote a few lines what the issues could be... compiler issue is the first coming into my mind. |
| 16:54.21 | SimAtWork | sounds like something i need to get |
| 16:54.38 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: and the inheritance of objects that eat plenty of memory.. reinheritancing etc might be a problem for slownes. |
| 16:54.40 | eeos | thiago no, computers in separate places, need to be through ftp or http |
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| 16:55.18 | thiago | eeos: not possible without manual intervention |
| 16:55.34 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, yeah, my memory usage always seems to be maxed out, no matter what i do |
| 16:55.35 | eeos | thiago would like it to be like synchronising in firefox, we use konqueror as default |
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| 16:55.47 | SimAtWork | eeos: you could use rsync actually |
| 16:55.53 | SimAtWork | eeos: and set it up witha crontab |
| 16:56.08 | SimAtWork | you'd want to use key based ssh authentication |
| 16:56.47 | eeos | SimAtWork I need rsync also on the server then. is there anything of this sort through ftp / http? |
| 16:56.56 | SimAtWork | the thing i'm not sure about |
| 16:57.00 | inimesekene | but i really have basically no idea how this all works |
| 16:57.02 | SimAtWork | is how to handle diff people adding book marks |
| 16:57.33 | eeos | SimAtWork indeed |
| 16:57.48 | eeos | SimAtWork something like https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/2367/ would be quite good for our use |
| 16:57.57 | ijwyn | inimesekene: try running top from a console to see what is eating all your CPU, you might just have an app running in the background that is eating up all your resources |
| 16:58.00 | eeos | SimAtWork but for the fact we use konqueror not firefox |
| 16:58.12 | eeos | SimAtWork all our bookmark are in konqueror |
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| 16:58.42 | inimesekene | ijwyn, no, cpu usage is ok |
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| 16:58.57 | andreid | can I use kde with aiglx/beryl? |
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| 16:59.46 | SimAtWork | eeos: i think you'd need to copy the files to a central location, find a way to combine them and then send out the new combined version. |
| 16:59.52 | inimesekene | so, is there a way to make the pager show desktops correctly with beryl? |
| 17:00.11 | ijwyn | so you mean the RAM ? you can have top sort the output to see what's eating up all the RAM |
| 17:00.24 | eeos | SimAtWork it would be nice if when the people switch the computer on, the computer synchronised with the central location. |
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| 17:01.32 | eeos | SimAtWork the firefox one seems very nice |
| 17:02.09 | SimAtWork | eeos: based on the comments it also looks non functional |
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| 17:02.33 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, oh, you are forking gnome? what are your intentions? |
| 17:02.50 | eeos | SimAtWork what do you mean? we have not tested it yet. |
| 17:05.10 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: i dont fork anything. |
| 17:05.23 | inimesekene | it waas some old article... |
| 17:05.48 | oGALAXYo | yeah, just because eugenia made some great research by posting all crap on osnews.com it has to be true. |
| 17:06.10 | inimesekene | well i didn't look at hte date first |
| 17:06.31 | oGALAXYo | no, thats the general lapidar stuff people do. they speak out of their ass without proper investigations. |
| 17:07.01 | inimesekene | having a bad day huh? |
| 17:07.54 | inimesekene | oGALAXYo, so arfe you a kde dev now or what? |
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| 17:08.02 | annma | not really |
| 17:08.03 | borovic | hi |
| 17:08.11 | annma | hi borovic |
| 17:08.12 | SimAtWork | eeos: you can do it with diff and patch |
| 17:08.17 | inimesekene | just trying to clear things up a bit |
| 17:08.21 | oGALAXYo | inimesekene: no.. i use gnome.. i am only here paying attention every now and then to the conversations happening. |
| 17:08.24 | borovic | does anyone know when will kde 4 be available (stable one)? |
| 17:08.34 | annma | oGALAXYo: you use gnome now? |
| 17:08.34 | SimAtWork | eeos: it'd be a fairly simple script but you'd have to worry about someone deleting all the bookmarks i guess |
| 17:08.42 | inimesekene | borovic, when it's done :) |
| 17:08.56 | borovic | and it`s when :)) |
| 17:08.58 | borovic | ? |
| 17:09.02 | annma | borovic: some months |
| 17:09.11 | annma | no one can tell precisely borovic |
| 17:09.23 | borovic | approximately, because I don`t know should i make some progs using qt3 or 4 |
| 17:09.25 | annma | otherwise we would publish a road map |
| 17:09.29 | oGALAXYo | annma: its a permanent up and down.. yes i did restore an old backup for stuff that i needed and stayed on gnome for the time being.. mostly because of my new job.. i didnt found the time to recompile kde due to my workday... i am pretty much working fullday. |
| 17:09.32 | annma | qt4 |
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| 17:09.49 | oGALAXYo | annma: i have the intention to recompile it this weekend.. already had that idea last week. |
| 17:09.49 | borovic | and one other thing... |
| 17:09.55 | borovic | is this the official kde channel? |
| 17:09.57 | annma | you use gnome because you don't have time to compile kde? |
| 17:10.03 | annma | borovic: it is |
| 17:10.18 | oGALAXYo | annma: right.. as i said it was on an old backup. |
| 17:10.48 | borovic | so, can anyone tell me how to become a SMALL developer (few minimalistic projects, etc.) ? |
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| 17:10.48 | annma | hmmm |
| 17:10.48 | borovic | I know C/C++ |
| 17:10.48 | oGALAXYo | dinner.. |
| 17:10.48 | annma | borovic: just start |
| 17:10.54 | borovic | when? what? |
| 17:10.55 | annma | borovic: do you have kde4? |
| 17:10.58 | borovic | no |
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| 17:11.02 | borovic | i`m using gentoo |
| 17:11.03 | inimesekene | borovic, make something |
| 17:11.03 | bluekb | Is there a way to get the title of the window that currently has focus (from the command line)? |
| 17:11.07 | annma | borovic: NO |
| 17:11.12 | annma | borovic: use kde4 svn |
| 17:11.14 | LinuxCart | Hello |
| 17:11.20 | annma | build it like we do |
| 17:11.26 | annma | borovic: I'll paste you a link |
| 17:11.30 | borovic | no ebuild yet |
| 17:11.37 | borovic | annma, i know how to get kde 4 |
| 17:11.41 | borovic | it`s not a problem |
| 17:11.53 | annma | http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html |
| 17:11.58 | borovic | but, to use it, i have to mix branches in gentoo |
| 17:12.04 | inimesekene | how's with the stability of kde4 svn btw? |
| 17:12.05 | annma | you must folllow this doc |
| 17:12.23 | annma | inimesekene: define stability |
| 17:12.36 | inimesekene | buggyness |
| 17:12.39 | borovic | annma: can you tell me can i post apps with less than 100 lines? |
| 17:12.39 | annma | borovic: don't use gentoo if you want to help in kde4 |
| 17:12.49 | annma | post apps? |
| 17:12.50 | inimesekene | i can imagine, being a RC it's not very great |
| 17:12.53 | borovic | yes |
| 17:12.55 | annma | borovic: what do you mean? |
| 17:13.02 | annma | inimesekene: it's in development |
| 17:13.09 | annma | inimesekene: it's not a RC |
| 17:13.18 | borovic | do all new programs (apps) in kde 4 have to be enormous |
| 17:13.20 | borovic | ? |
| 17:13.22 | annma | it was a very sneak preview |
| 17:13.27 | borovic | or can i make some small ones |
| 17:13.28 | inimesekene | well something not done yet |
| 17:13.32 | annma | borovic: of course not |
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| 17:13.44 | annma | you can make small ones of course |
| 17:13.49 | borovic | for eg. a gui frontend for shutdown (with timing options) app |
| 17:13.56 | annma | but build kde4 first |
| 17:14.10 | annma | borovic: you can do what you want |
| 17:14.15 | borovic | annma, are there any significant differences? |
| 17:14.27 | annma | between what? |
| 17:14.40 | borovic | kde 3.5.5 and unstable kde4 |
| 17:14.42 | borovic | ? |
| 17:14.48 | annma | of course* |
| 17:14.48 | borovic | UNSTABLE kde 4 |
| 17:14.57 | annma | kde4 is based on qt4 |
| 17:15.01 | borovic | i know that |
| 17:15.04 | annma | kde3 on qt3 |
| 17:15.10 | annma | so they are very different |
| 17:15.11 | borovic | doesn`t use aRts (yey) |
| 17:15.25 | annma | that's not a major point |
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| 17:15.37 | borovic | but it`s my favourite, i always hated arts :) |
| 17:15.44 | annma | oh crap |
| 17:15.56 | annma | a devel saying that is quite weird |
| 17:16.05 | borovic | annma, except qt4 and new apps, is there any other fundamental difference |
| 17:16.10 | borovic | ? |
| 17:16.17 | annma | well yes, all the new libs |
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| 17:16.32 | annma | you are very new to kde, are you? |
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| 17:16.47 | borovic | no i`m not |
| 17:16.54 | borovic | using it for over 5 years |
| 17:16.58 | borovic | but i AM new to kde 4 |
| 17:17.07 | borovic | very very new |
| 17:17.09 | annma | you don't read the dot or blogs |
| 17:17.35 | borovic | well, no |
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| 17:18.36 | borovic | annma, and to send src |
| 17:18.39 | borovic | how? |
| 17:18.45 | borovic | using svn, cvs or.... |
| 17:18.46 | borovic | ? |
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| 17:19.03 | annma | well you need to have your app ready first |
| 17:19.08 | Solifugus | My nvidia drivers get wiped out after certain updates on fedora.. Any way to protect this from happenning? (This same kind of thing happening with a different driver caused my work to switch from RH AS to Windows 2003, not too long ago). |
| 17:19.14 | annma | then you'll put it in svn playground |
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| 17:19.23 | annma | kde is using svn now |
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| 17:19.36 | annma | borovic: do your app fiurst and come back |
| 17:19.46 | borovic | ok |
| 17:19.51 | eeos | SimAtWork sorry i was on the phone. is it possible to write konqueror extension as it is with firefox? |
| 17:20.02 | borovic | ok |
| 17:20.07 | LinuxCart | is kde considering moving to any distributed VCS? |
| 17:20.22 | annma | VCS? |
| 17:20.24 | annma | you mean git? |
| 17:20.24 | LinuxCart | I saw a post from aseigo some time ago about this |
| 17:20.33 | annma | yes? |
| 17:20.34 | LinuxCart | Version Controlling System (IIRC) |
| 17:20.34 | annma | we just moved to svn |
| 17:20.48 | annma | do you think we're gonna change every year? |
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| 17:21.03 | SimAtWork | eeos: not sure. I don't think so. annma, do you know? |
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| 17:21.09 | LinuxCart | annma: :D of course not, I asak if you were considering |
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| 17:21.32 | annma | I personally am not considering anything, svn is OK for me |
| 17:21.51 | annma | i am not an admin who would have to do it all |
| 17:21.53 | LinuxCart | aseigo talked in his post about consider people who lacks of medium to high bandwith connection and permanent |
| 17:22.02 | borovic | can i make apps for kde4 using kde3? |
| 17:22.04 | annma | what post is that? |
| 17:22.11 | LinuxCart | annma: let me check... |
| 17:22.15 | annma | borovic: use the link I told you |
| 17:22.20 | borovic | is there any good ide (c++) that suports qt4 |
| 17:22.26 | annma | borovic: you can run kde4 apps within kde3 |
| 17:22.33 | annma | kdevelop |
| 17:22.34 | SimAtWork | borovic: i like kdevelop |
| 17:22.41 | annma | supports qt4 but not kde4 |
| 17:22.41 | LinuxCart | annma: http://aseigo.blogspot.com/2006/12/case-for-distributed-revision-control.html |
| 17:22.46 | annma | get kdevelop 3.4 |
| 17:23.06 | annma | LinuxCart: in any case I can blog about anything as well |
| 17:23.12 | annma | that does not make it happen |
| 17:24.18 | LinuxCart | annma: I know, but since he's one of the core kde devs, maybe there happen to be a disccusion about that |
| 17:24.26 | annma | no |
| 17:24.32 | annma | there is not |
| 17:24.35 | hein | LinuxCart: There is a group of people who are interested in using git for KDE, but realistically, mindshare and tools support aren't there to make a switch any time soon |
| 17:24.38 | annma | god we already have enough with kde4 |
| 17:24.51 | LinuxCart | I know posting is not doing, just an opinion which could ignite a debate, maybe not the case this time |
| 17:25.04 | annma | there's no open discussion about it |
| 17:25.07 | annma | NO OPEN DISCUSSION |
| 17:25.15 | annma | in any mailing list |
| 17:25.19 | hein | annma: Well, there is on #kde-devel about once per week ;) |
| 17:25.24 | annma | ? |
| 17:25.32 | annma | kde-core-devel matters |
| 17:25.50 | LinuxCart | annma: don't get angry with me :S |
| 17:26.03 | annma | I am against hein |
| 17:26.09 | LinuxCart | it was an innocent topix, sorry |
| 17:26.14 | oGALAXYo | annma: back from dinner.. at work i use suse 10 for svn server and kubuntu.. but only at home i am stuck back to gnome for the time being.. |
| 17:26.24 | bluekb | Is there a way to get the title of the window that currently has focus (from the command line), such as using DCOP? Any suggestions on google search terms at least? |
| 17:26.32 | annma | I am subscribed to several core mailing lists and did nto see any git-related topic |
| 17:26.36 | oGALAXYo | annma: but this makes me a valid source of information since that way i can peek on both desktops. |
| 17:26.51 | annma | [18:24:48] <hein> LinuxCart: There is a group of people who are interested in using git for KDE, but realistically, mindshare and tools support aren't there to make a switch any time soon |
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| 17:26.56 | kaouete | hi |
| 17:27.02 | annma | ^^ not sure who this group is |
| 17:27.09 | annma | hein: clarify please |
| 17:27.28 | LinuxCart | hein: I don't care very much, but any reason for git and not mercurial? |
| 17:27.31 | hein | annma: Aaron, Charles, frederikh, a few others |
| 17:27.43 | annma | what list? |
| 17:27.56 | annma | Charles is out of it |
| 17:28.04 | hein | annma: But again, a switch is completely unrealistic due to the lack of mindshare (everybody knows and understands CVS/SVN, few people know git) and tools support (proper GUI frontends, etc.) |
| 17:28.06 | oGALAXYo | use VSS :) |
| 17:28.07 | kaouete | i am using konsole 3.5.5 with fluxbox (not kwin) and i cant get transparancy working :/ it looks like it use for transparancy a grey background even if another is set, is there a special way to set the background to have transparancy ? |
| 17:28.11 | oGALAXYo | visual source save |
| 17:28.17 | kaouete | (on gentoo :) |
| 17:28.18 | hein | annma: And unless that changes, I doubt there will be a wider debate |
| 17:28.22 | annma | hein: i dislike info like that |
| 17:28.36 | annma | wqhich does not reflect the kde project |
| 17:28.41 | hein | annma: And the people who toy with the idea know that too :-) |
| 17:29.05 | annma | I do hope so, some people criticize cmake, svn, everything |
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| 17:29.32 | annma | however those people are not even the ones who do the stuff, manage servers and all |
| 17:29.45 | Authority | what is the KDE daemon that watches for console messages? |
| 17:30.19 | hein | annma: Well, and I dislike it when people become agitated and unfriendly towards me for no good reason, so I guess we both have our misgivings :-) |
| 17:30.56 | annma | I just mean it's not fair relaying pieces of information not real and making them "official"* |
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| 17:31.20 | annma | you will always find people toying with this and that |
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| 17:31.40 | LinuxCart | oGALAXYo: I know there are some options for transparency in the menu |
| 17:31.43 | annma | anyway I have dinner to do |
| 17:31.46 | annma | bye |
| 17:31.50 | hein | annma: I did not make anything "official". I relayed, which is *factually true*, that there is a group of people who are interested in using git with KDE, but that there are hurdles which would prevent this leading to anything in the forseeable future |
| 17:31.51 | oGALAXYo | LinuxCart: yep |
| 17:31.59 | LinuxCart | oGALAXYo: ...and? |
| 17:32.12 | oGALAXYo | LinuxCart: and what ? |
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| 17:32.22 | LinuxCart | oGALAXYo: did you tried? |
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| 17:32.47 | oGALAXYo | i use shadowed menu.. but thats all.. |
| 17:32.50 | LinuxCart | hein: annma I didn't want to start a sour debate about anything else that VCS tools... |
| 17:32.53 | oGALAXYo | but you can turn it off.. |
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| 17:34.26 | hein | LinuxCart: I see no harm coming from transparency in open source projects, so I truthfully answered your question *shrugs* |
| 17:35.05 | LinuxCart | but maybe annma got angry with me and with some other ppl at KDE |
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| 17:36.12 | SimAtWork | to many negative nancies today |
| 17:36.14 | SimAtWork | everyone cheer up |
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| 17:36.36 | LinuxCart | any joke at hand guys...? :) |
| 17:36.57 | smileaf | 2 men walked into a bar, the 3rd one ducked >.> |
| 17:37.22 | alaQ | take my code....please. |
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| 17:37.45 | oGALAXYo | a guy walk into a bar having a frog on his head.. the barkeeper asks.. hey what the fuck is that... the frog answers "sorry bud.. stepped into something"... |
| 17:38.04 | LinuxCart | :D |
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| 17:39.32 | LiquidNerd_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:39.43 | LiquidNerd_ | oh wait |
| 17:39.44 | LiquidNerd_ | I get it |
| 17:39.47 | LiquidNerd_ | lol |
| 17:39.49 | alaQ | lol |
| 17:39.53 | LiquidNerd_ | I didn't read it right the first time |
| 17:40.14 | smileaf | hehe |
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| 17:42.35 | SimAtWork | the kde apps is getting spammed |
| 17:42.40 | SimAtWork | the rss feed |
| 17:42.53 | SimAtWork | can't we block on "erotico" ? |
| 17:42.57 | smileaf | heh.. it happens about once a week it seems. |
| 17:43.03 | SimAtWork | a lot this week |
| 17:43.47 | LinuxCart | I can't see any spam there |
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| 17:44.07 | smileaf | might have gotten deleted already. |
| 17:44.27 | oGALAXYo | i think its time paying back one by one.. |
| 17:44.29 | smileaf | but yep.. I see it too. |
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| 17:44.40 | oGALAXYo | those who do so on kde related pages needs to get back on gnome related ones.. |
| 17:44.54 | oGALAXYo | who else would do something nasty as that.. if not intended for trolling reasons. |
| 17:45.09 | oGALAXYo | trolling usually means "get rid of the other". |
| 17:45.25 | SimAtWork | i don't think you understand the trollers true motives |
| 17:45.35 | oGALAXYo | i do.. |
| 17:45.48 | SimAtWork | trollers troll for the sake of trolling. |
| 17:45.51 | oGALAXYo | but i also know that these times also has changed it. |
| 17:46.16 | smileaf | I think the spam on kde-*.org is more bot advertising related than it is trolling... |
| 17:46.18 | oGALAXYo | well in former times i would agree with you.. |
| 17:46.31 | vbgunz | When is KDE 4 slated for release? |
| 17:46.36 | oGALAXYo | but these days its all about politics and jealous people who try to hurt the oposite projects do this. |
| 17:46.44 | smileaf | vbgunz: no stated date, sometime later this year. |
| 17:46.46 | SimAtWork | vbgunz: sometime between now and 2020 |
| 17:46.47 | alaQ | vbgunz: second half of the year. |
| 17:46.52 | kendrick | SimAtWork: block [url] |
| 17:46.58 | kendrick | it's a spambot thinking the site is a blog, i think |
| 17:47.00 | LinuxCart | vbgunz: WIR, SIYH |
| 17:47.02 | kendrick | i get shit like that all the time |
| 17:47.12 | kendrick | ... Installfest RSVP form. Tux Paint download survey. etc. |
| 17:47.12 | vbgunz | ok, sometime half of the year and 2020, well heh, I hope soon :) |
| 17:47.24 | kendrick | I just made the PHP scripts go "ok, thanks, that was nice" and /dev/null the crap |
| 17:47.39 | kendrick | anyway, gotta run! |
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| 17:47.44 | LeonWP | hi |
| 17:48.00 | LeonWP | how can I receive updates to the kde localisation? |
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| 17:49.19 | LeonWP | I'm running amarok from svn trunk, I'm seeing a few unlocalized strings there, so I wondered how to receive the updates when the l10n teams have translated them |
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| 17:50.38 | oGALAXYo | LeonWP: there is kde-i18n module |
| 17:50.59 | oGALAXYo | LeonWP: and best you ask in #amarok for this |
| 17:51.08 | McEnroe | how do i close a kde apps via shell (gracefully)? |
| 17:51.37 | LinuxCart | you could kill it (with -15) or sending a dcop call |
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| 17:51.48 | LeonWP | ah okay, I'm upgrading the kde-i18n package |
| 17:53.24 | McEnroe | LinuxCart: do you know the dcop call? |
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| 17:53.41 | LinuxCart | McEnroe: do you have the app¿? |
| 17:54.24 | McEnroe | kopete |
| 17:54.49 | McEnroe | but isnt there one close call for every app? |
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| 17:55.20 | mein_traum | http://mibssam.free.fr |
| 17:56.18 | LinuxCart | McEnroe: killall kopete will do |
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| 17:56.39 | LeonWP | (if you're not on solaris.) |
| 17:57.42 | FuzZy2007 | isn't kde 3.5.6 released? |
| 17:57.54 | Sho_ | FuzZy2007: It will be released next week. |
| 17:58.13 | LinuxCart | and if you have killall, if not echo $(ps x|grep kope|awk '{print $1}'), dirtier though... |
| 17:58.15 | LinuxCart | ;) |
| 17:58.18 | Dark_Apostrophe | I got this popup when I started KDE. "You are not permitted to connect to the powersave daemon via DBUS. Please check your DBUS configuration and installation." |
| 17:58.24 | apokryphos | FuzZy2007: http://developer.kde.org/development-versions/kde-3.5-release-plan.html |
| 17:58.25 | Dark_Apostrophe | Hey Sho_ |
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| 17:58.38 | Sho_ | yo Dark_Apostrophe |
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| 17:58.56 | Dark_Apostrophe | Sho_: How are you? :) |
| 17:59.03 | LinuxCart | McEnroe: dcop kopete MainApplication-Interface quit |
| 17:59.08 | Sho_ | hungry :) |
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| 18:05.06 | thadood | ok maybe some one can help me , ive found a theme i want to use for KDE 3.5.3 , its called Crystal-1.0.2 and its on www.kde-look.org , i downloaded the Slackware TGZ , now how do i install it ? |
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| 18:06.28 | thadood | ok maybe some one can help me , ive found a theme i want to use for KDE 3.5.3 , its called Crystal-1.0.2 and its on www.kde-look.org , i downloaded the Slackware TGZ , now how do i install it ? |
| 18:07.41 | anditosan | has any of you gotten to have the new domino theme installed? cuz I can't do it |
| 18:07.46 | anditosan | I need help |
| 18:07.47 | AlexElliott | If it's a slackpack then you use "installpkg filename.tgz" |
| 18:08.06 | thadood | well im not sure if its a PKG i guess it is , but ill try that real quick |
| 18:08.10 | thadood | but im sure ill be back |
| 18:08.24 | AlexElliott | If not, tar xf it and have a look inside :) |
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| 18:08.41 | thadood | ive already opened , but i need to install it i guess |
| 18:08.46 | thadood | ive seen the contents of it |
| 18:08.48 | LinuxCart | thadood: maybe in any slackware channel |
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| 18:09.15 | thadood | well no , they will tell me to come here because its KDE related |
| 18:09.43 | AlexElliott | If it was installing a slackpack that you needed help with then it wouldn't be, if it's a plain gzipped tar archive then it is, depends. |
| 18:10.06 | thadood | hang on |
| 18:10.46 | ijwyn | so can anyone help me with kooka? it won't recognize my Epson scanner, even though it's recognized fine by sane, XSane and iscan... puzzling |
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| 18:11.11 | thadood | i guess maybe it is a slackpack ? its , crystal-1.0.2-i486-1as.tgz |
| 18:11.48 | AlexElliott | Try installpkg and find out, if that fails then it's just an archive |
| 18:13.00 | thadood | yeah shell said , Cannot install crystal-1.0.2-i486-1as.tgz: package does not end in .tgz |
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| 18:14.02 | thadood | so if its not an install and just an archive , then how would i apply it as a theme ? |
| 18:14.50 | AlexElliott | That's just odd, because it does end in tgz? |
| 18:14.56 | thadood | yeah |
| 18:14.57 | thadood | hehe |
| 18:15.01 | thadood | it does |
| 18:15.33 | ijwyn | maybe the file is corrupt |
| 18:15.44 | AlexElliott | Have a go at untaring it |
| 18:15.53 | thadood | just for info my OS is Backtrack "Slackware based" Kernel version 2.6.18-rc5 |
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| 18:16.44 | thadood | well i did unzip it so to speak , and it has build files in it and some other stuff , its not a source though , but maybe it needs to be compiled |
| 18:16.45 | thadood | ? |
| 18:17.00 | alaQ | thadood: does it have a .theme file |
| 18:17.08 | thadood | no |
| 18:17.35 | ijwyn | you probably just need to toss into the right folder to get it to work |
| 18:17.40 | ijwyn | *toss it |
| 18:17.42 | pinotree | thadood: it's a ditro-specific question, please ask in #yourdistro |
| 18:17.45 | alaQ | hrm... try this: go into Kcontrol - Appearance & themes - theme manager |
| 18:17.57 | alaQ | then click install theme, and point it to the .tgz archive |
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| 18:18.17 | thadood | well see i tryed that , and theme manager specifically wants a theme file |
| 18:18.21 | thadood | let me try again though |
| 18:18.22 | alaQ | hrm... |
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| 18:20.10 | thadood | yeah see , theme manager needs a theme file , there is no theme file in the TGZ , but there are like build files and other data files i guess for the theme |
| 18:20.17 | thadood | its not corrupted |
| 18:20.42 | AlexElliott | thadood, is there a slack-desc file in the .tgz (usually under install/ or somesuch) |
| 18:21.00 | alaQ | it might need to be compiled then.. that seems weird though. |
| 18:21.11 | thadood | yeah i know |
| 18:21.22 | thadood | here let me read off to you what the INSTALL file says |
| 18:21.31 | FuzZy2007 | in gentoo: how can I see the details for every applications (details that I can see in kuroo), using the command line input |
| 18:22.59 | thadood | Basic Installation (from console) , Step 1 $ ./configure --prefix='kde-config --prefix' , Step 2 $ make , Step 3 (as root) # make install |
| 18:23.08 | thadood | tryed that but it didnt work |
| 18:23.13 | thadood | maybe i didnt do it right |
| 18:23.17 | alaQ | hmm.. did the make run? |
| 18:23.25 | thadood | no |
| 18:23.26 | thadood | it didnt |
| 18:23.28 | alaQ | better question: where did it fail? |
| 18:23.40 | thadood | that is the question |
| 18:23.53 | thadood | maybe im supposed to point at where the tgz is ? |
| 18:24.13 | ijwyn | look at the output, it should have given you some errors |
| 18:24.38 | thadood | ok here it is , -bash ./configure: No such file or Directory |
| 18:24.48 | ijwyn | hrmm |
| 18:25.09 | ijwyn | did you type that from within the directory where you have the unpacked files? |
| 18:25.23 | ijwyn | you need to cd into it first |
| 18:25.26 | thadood | no , i just opened up a shell and did it |
| 18:25.29 | thadood | ok let me cd into it |
| 18:25.33 | thadood | good idea |
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| 18:32.13 | thadood | ok i tryed doing the install instructions from the directory the files are in but , i still get the same bash error |
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| 18:35.53 | alaQ | thadood: is there an autogen.sh file? |
| 18:36.07 | thadood | hang on , let me see |
| 18:36.33 | thadood | no there is not |
| 18:38.51 | thadood | Version: 1.0.2 |
| 18:38.51 | thadood | Type: Window Decoration native KDE 3.2 + |
| 18:38.52 | thadood | Depends on: KDE 3.5.x |
| 18:38.52 | thadood | Downloads: 181374 |
| 18:39.01 | thadood | thats what it says on the website |
| 18:39.06 | thadood | at the top |
| 18:39.27 | thadood | im not sure what it means when it says "Depends on: KDE 3.5.x" |
| 18:39.39 | thadood | because i have KDE 3.5.3 |
| 18:40.47 | alaQ | one sec. |
| 18:40.48 | smileaf | 3.5.x means any version of the 3.5 series. |
| 18:40.55 | thadood | ok |
| 18:41.45 | alaQ | you said you got the slack version? |
| 18:41.51 | thadood | yes |
| 18:42.06 | alaQ | try the source one instead. |
| 18:42.13 | thadood | ok |
| 18:42.14 | thadood | hang ong |
| 18:42.17 | thadood | on* |
| 18:43.08 | alaQ | I'm pulling it down too... slowly. stupid 56k |
| 18:43.16 | SimAtWork | 56k |
| 18:43.18 | SimAtWork | ah |
| 18:44.16 | alaQ | no kidding. |
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| 18:45.02 | SimAtWork | how did you get stuck with that? |
| 18:45.19 | alaQ | I live in the middle of nowhere. |
| 18:45.36 | alaQ | too far out for cable/dsl, and satellite is 600$ + |
| 18:47.16 | thadood | i have the same problem , im on a 56k , luckily i invested in some Wifi equipment , so i can reach some AP's |
| 18:47.31 | alaQ | thadood: you should be able to follow the instructions from the page now. |
| 18:47.44 | thadood | the page on the website ? |
| 18:47.57 | alaQ | thadood: i do that when going through towns, just to see how many unsecured ap's i finde |
| 18:47.58 | alaQ | yeah. |
| 18:48.10 | thadood | heh |
| 18:48.25 | thadood | ok let me run through this install instructions , ill let you know how it turns out |
| 18:48.55 | alaQ | ok. |
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| 18:51.32 | facenew | off topic, but i recommend a short movie "007 vs Man in Black": http://www.bytecool.com/ioiforum/read.php?1,6884,6884#msg-6884 |
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| 19:04.57 | DbD- | hi |
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| 19:05.10 | DbD- | i search where Kmail save identities ? |
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| 19:07.36 | alaQ | DbD-: probably in .kde or .kde3.5, in your home dir. |
| 19:07.42 | alaQ | not positive tho. |
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| 19:08.37 | DbD- | alaQ, i search the file |
| 19:08.53 | alaQ | hrm.. |
| 19:09.28 | thadood | alaq i think its working |
| 19:09.30 | thadood | :D |
| 19:09.35 | DbD- | it's not in .kde/apps/.kmail |
| 19:09.38 | thadood | i ran the configure instructions and its doing it |
| 19:09.39 | alaQ | honestly, i don't use kmail, so i'm not sure. most of the time they store data in .kde/share/apps |
| 19:09.42 | alaQ | good. |
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| 19:10.48 | PhilRod | DbD-: are you looking for where kmail stores your mail? |
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| 19:12.19 | DbD- | PhilRod, my identities |
| 19:12.54 | PhilRod | probably in ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc |
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| 19:13.51 | DbD- | no |
| 19:13.57 | DbD- | its the problem .. |
| 19:14.06 | PhilRod | hrm, you're right. I can't see them there either |
| 19:14.23 | PhilRod | ~/.kde/share/config/emailidentities |
| 19:14.42 | DbD- | thanks ! =) |
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| 19:19.27 | DbD- | bye |
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| 19:23.31 | thadood | DAMN , DAMMIT DAMN |
| 19:23.44 | alaQ | ? |
| 19:23.45 | thadood | DAMN DAMN DA DAMN DAMN DAMNNNN |
| 19:23.58 | alaQ | ok.. i get the point.. something's not right. |
| 19:24.02 | thadood | i was on step 2 of the instructions and the make just stopped |
| 19:24.03 | alaQ | what's the deal? |
| 19:24.20 | alaQ | ok... was it an error stop, or just a stop |
| 19:24.20 | thadood | it was far to |
| 19:24.28 | thadood | it just stopped |
| 19:24.33 | ijwyn | look at its output, it should tell you what went wrong |
| 19:24.44 | thadood | it didnt go back to the CD or anything it just stopped |
| 19:24.45 | thadood | wait |
| 19:24.46 | ijwyn | well if there aren't any errors, it could just be done |
| 19:24.47 | thadood | hang on |
| 19:24.49 | alaQ | if there's no error, then it went fine. |
| 19:24.51 | thadood | maybe it didnt stop |
| 19:24.59 | thadood | maybe its just taking awhile |
| 19:25.03 | thadood | i just seen some new data scroll |
| 19:25.06 | thadood | so maybe its cool |
| 19:25.06 | ijwyn | oh, yeah, that's possible too |
| 19:25.11 | alaQ | :) |
| 19:25.16 | ijwyn | some installs take a while |
| 19:25.18 | thadood | heh |
| 19:25.41 | thadood | yep , the make step 2 just finished , now i gotta make install |
| 19:25.50 | ijwyn | don't forget to do it as root |
| 19:25.57 | ijwyn | just type su to switch |
| 19:26.01 | thadood | right |
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| 19:29.29 | thadood | ok well i ran through the 3 instruction steps to what i think was succesfull , but now what ? |
| 19:29.36 | thadood | im not sure where to go from here |
| 19:29.42 | thadood | i dont see a theme file anywhere |
| 19:29.50 | ijwyn | now I'd go back to the theme manager and see if it shows up in there |
| 19:30.04 | ijwyn | look for that 'Crystal' name |
| 19:30.34 | thadood | no , i dont see it in there |
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| 19:31.10 | thadood | maybe i should restart kde ? |
| 19:31.23 | _-InFeRnO-_ | hello |
| 19:31.25 | ijwyn | hmm, maybe |
| 19:31.37 | ijwyn | never installed a theme, so not entirely sure, but it can't hurt to try |
| 19:31.46 | thadood | ill try to restart kde , brb |
| 19:36.50 | LiquidNerd_ | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 19:36.50 | LiquidNerd_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.00 | LiquidNerd_ | well here's hoping I can still turn on KDE after |
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| 19:37.38 | Tonren | Can the background slideshow pic-changer fade between pics? |
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| 19:40.59 | ijwyn | if you remove python you just won't be able to run python apps, shouldn't affect KDE itself as it's not coded in python AFAIK |
| 19:42.57 | LinuxCart | cu, bye |
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| 19:43.12 | SimAtWork | i wouldn't remove python though |
| 19:43.17 | SimAtWork | it's a rather important thing to have |
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| 19:55.06 | Russel | hiho |
| 19:55.44 | alaQ | hey |
| 19:56.05 | Russel | i have a little problem: i have a useraccount with /usr mounted by unionfs in home directory |
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| 19:56.35 | thadood | you know...... it really couldnt have gone worse |
| 19:56.47 | alaQ | ? |
| 19:56.55 | thadood | well it couldve, but you know my computer didnt catch fire |
| 19:56.59 | thadood | i mean that would be pretty bad |
| 19:57.05 | Russel | i have in path only this unionfs thing, but now i can't get amarok to load engines... as far as i understand the source it has something to do with ktrader not report the right things |
| 19:57.06 | SimAtWork | be sweet |
| 19:57.12 | SimAtWork | you could viddie it and get it up on utube |
| 19:57.14 | SimAtWork | you'll be famous |
| 19:57.15 | Russel | any suggestions from your side how to solve it? |
| 19:57.31 | SimAtWork | Russel: not sure what you did or why |
| 19:57.34 | SimAtWork | so dunno how to help |
| 19:57.42 | thadood | KDE is screwed , ill have to re-install linux , luckily this OS has Flux and its a bootable live linux |
| 19:57.46 | alaQ | thadood: what's the problem? |
| 19:57.58 | Russel | ok: i mounted /usr in home directory over unionfs |
| 19:58.15 | Russel | so i can install things there but not overwrite the real /usr |
| 19:58.35 | Russel | i changed path and ld_library_path to this new location for this user |
| 19:58.50 | Russel | and now amarok (ktrader perhaps) doesn't find engines |
| 19:59.14 | Russel | SimAtWork: understood it? |
| 19:59.28 | thadood | its a custom Security os anyways , and i suppose trying to load a theme screwed it up |
| 19:59.53 | alaQ | sounds screwy.. what doesn't work when loading kde? |
| 20:00.31 | thadood | when kde is loading an error box comes up saying some junk , then it goes back to the root command line |
| 20:01.58 | alaQ | hrm... |
| 20:02.39 | thadood | it was kinda tricky to install this OS to , had to do some Boot MBR modifying and stuff to run a dual boot |
| 20:02.58 | alaQ | hrm.. what os? |
| 20:03.11 | thadood | Back Track |
| 20:03.18 | thadood | www.remote-exploit.org |
| 20:04.18 | alaQ | hmm.... |
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| 20:04.53 | alaQ | go to the directory of the theme |
| 20:05.09 | alaQ | and type (as root) make uninstall. then try restarting kde. |
| 20:05.31 | thadood | hmmm , thats not a bad idea to do first , it would save me alot of work and time , ill brb in about 15 |
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| 20:06.25 | alaQ | ok.e |
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| 20:07.44 | Nebukadneza | hi |
| 20:08.02 | Nebukadneza | is there a way to make kphotoalbum not display raw (.CR2) files? |
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| 20:14.14 | pmatos | Hi all, When in KDE3.5 you connect a device which KDE detects, shows up in media:/, if you mount it, are you supposed to be able to run executable files located inside the device? |
| 20:15.16 | shadok | it depends of your mount options |
| 20:15.36 | Authority | pmatos: check for a noexec mount option |
| 20:15.37 | pmatos | shadok: you don't have mount options for that device... at least not on fstab added by you. |
| 20:15.44 | pmatos | Authority: where? |
| 20:15.52 | pmatos | Authority: nothing on fstab |
| 20:16.10 | Authority | pmatos: you can look at mnttab or the output of 'mount' |
| 20:16.44 | Authority | pmatos: i don't know how to configure that behavior though |
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| 20:16.58 | Authority | pmatos: i believe you'll want to look into pmount |
| 20:17.04 | pmatos | Authority: ok, I will |
| 20:17.23 | Authority | pmatos: I don't use that whole automatic mounting bit, so I'm not overly familiar with how it works |
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| 20:18.04 | shadok_ | you can do : mount -o remount,exec /dev/device |
| 20:18.06 | shadok_ | it is temporary but it will work directly |
| 20:18.22 | pmatos | shadok_ that I understand but I wanted KDE to do it by itself. |
| 20:18.54 | shadok_ | there must be some default options somewhere but i do'nt know where it is stored |
| 20:18.56 | pmatos | Authority: it seems KDE Is calling pmount with default options which includes noexec. by the way, what happens in your case? Have you tested it? |
| 20:19.44 | Pinaraf | pmatos: you can change this in hal settings |
| 20:20.11 | pmatos | Pinaraf: where is that? |
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| 20:20.26 | pmatos | Pinaraf: is there any gui for that? |
| 20:20.35 | shadok_ | i don't think so |
| 20:20.36 | Pinaraf | I'm searching |
| 20:20.50 | shadok_ | it's not in hald.conf |
| 20:21.06 | Authority | pmatos: I manually mount everything I use, I'm old fashioned like that, so I can't help you configure pmount or KDE in this regard |
| 20:21.29 | Pinaraf | /etc/hal/fdi/policy/preferences.fdi |
| 20:21.45 | pmatos | Authority: I understand... well, before using kde I did that, but if I don't use all niceties KDE offers, I'm better off with enlightenment... |
| 20:22.01 | pmatos | Pinaraf: thank you, checking! |
| 20:23.01 | Kyral | Stupid question, but does Konsole have a KPart? |
| 20:23.34 | shadok_ | can't find this fdi file on gentoo :/ i have some but not interesting ones |
| 20:24.02 | pmatos | Kyral: think so, otherwise how would you be able to show it inside konqueror? |
| 20:24.13 | pmatos | shadok_: also on gentoo! |
| 20:24.13 | Kyral | mm just making sure |
| 20:24.19 | Kyral | I wanna try a stupid thing |
| 20:24.32 | shadok_ | pmatos: do you have preferences.fdi file ? |
| 20:24.42 | pmatos | shadok_: no... :-/ |
| 20:24.58 | Kyral | Create a kinda "KVim" by embedding a Konsole KPart inside a GUI Frame and having it run Vim immeadiatly inside :D |
| 20:25.00 | pmatos | Pinaraf: can you show me the contents of your preferences.fdi? |
| 20:25.18 | pmatos | Pinaraf: pls :-) |
| 20:25.33 | Pinaraf | it's the standard preferences.fdi from kubuntu feisty |
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| 20:25.46 | Kyral | Since Kzsys or whatever has died |
| 20:25.49 | Pinaraf | I didn't change this noexec thing |
| 20:26.22 | JohnFlux | Kyral: run: konsole --nomenubar --noscrollbar --noframe -a vim |
| 20:26.36 | pmatos | Pinaraf: but you have anything at all there? |
| 20:26.43 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:26.45 | pmatos | Pinaraf: regarding noexec? |
| 20:27.11 | Pinaraf | nothing regarding noexec exactly, but the examples included are enough to understand how to do this |
| 20:27.22 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.23 | shadok_ | Pinaraf: please pastebin it, i'd like to see what is in |
| 20:27.23 | JohnFlux | Kyral: that looks best |
| 20:27.24 | msoeken | Hi. I have a problem mit KHTMLPart::htmlDocument::links (). It returns length () = 0, but there are links in the document: http://rafb.net/p/69l2W555.html |
| 20:27.56 | msoeken | line 42 is: size: 0 |
| 20:27.58 | Pinaraf | http://rafb.net/p/6ODeL294.html |
| 20:28.03 | shadok_ | thx |
| 20:28.46 | Kyral | JohnFlux: except nothing comes up |
| 20:28.58 | JohnFlux | Kyral: .. works for me |
| 20:29.09 | Kyral | or was that supposed to be from a running Konsole? |
| 20:29.15 | Kyral | (I ran it from run command) |
| 20:29.29 | JohnFlux | Kyral: use the last version i gave |
| 20:29.39 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:29.53 | pmatos | Pinaraf: thank you |
| 20:30.06 | JohnFlux | Kyral: works for me from the run command |
| 20:30.21 | Kyral | whoops |
| 20:30.23 | Kyral | typo.... |
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| 20:30.28 | Kyral | --nofame :P |
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| 20:30.59 | msoeken | even all ().size () returns 0 |
| 20:31.23 | Kyral | thanks JohnFlux :D |
| 20:31.26 | TomSwift | test |
| 20:31.41 | Kyral | Now all we need is a Vim KPart so I can use Vim from within KDevelop :D |
| 20:32.09 | JohnFlux | Kyral: i think kdevelop already supports that |
| 20:32.45 | Kyral | yeahright |
| 20:32.57 | Kyral | I don't see Vim on the Embedded Editor box :P |
| 20:33.07 | PhilRod | msoeken: try asking in #kde-devel. Someone there might be able to help |
| 20:33.28 | JohnFlux | Kyral: install yzis |
| 20:33.57 | Kyral | JohnFlux: I thought that was unmaintainted |
| 20:34.12 | loki_val | msoeken: Wasn't there once something called KVim or something like that? |
| 20:34.24 | loki_val | ^kyral. |
| 20:34.29 | JohnFlux | Kyral: i don't know then - ask in #kdevelop :-) |
| 20:34.39 | Kyral | loki_val: That became yzis |
| 20:34.50 | Kyral | But last I heard it was abandoned |
| 20:35.05 | Kyral | To the point that the Vim people stopped including it |
| 20:35.09 | loki_val | Kyral: too bad. |
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| 20:35.33 | Kyral | And I have tried installing it but it just won't compile |
| 20:36.07 | gdiebel | is there a way to disable the feature of kde accessibility where the sticky key turns off after 5 presses? |
| 20:38.11 | pmatos | shadok: found anything? |
| 20:39.13 | pmatos | shadok: have you read: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_D-BUS,_HAL,_KDE_media:/ |
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| 20:42.40 | _-InFeRnO-_ | what do you think of this icon |
| 20:42.41 | _-InFeRnO-_ | http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/8096/thunderbirdtd8.png |
| 20:43.15 | _-InFeRnO-_ | ? |
| 20:43.54 | _-InFeRnO-_ | i quickly need opinion |
| 20:43.54 | shadok | pmatos: nope, i was chatting on aother chan but i'll check taht , thx |
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| 20:44.24 | thadood | wow |
| 20:44.25 | thadood | yeah |
| 20:44.27 | thadood | that didnt work |
| 20:44.29 | thadood | it just hangs |
| 20:44.34 | thadood | at the kde loading |
| 20:45.14 | thadood | when things go wrong , they really go wrong, i had to do a bunch of rigormorall to even get back on the net |
| 20:45.18 | thadood | whew , im tired |
| 20:45.19 | shadok | _-InFeRnO-_: i dislike the bird, too flat imho |
| 20:45.37 | thadood | what bird , what are you talking about >_< |
| 20:45.49 | shadok | .... |
| 20:45.53 | thadood | >_< |
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| 20:47.13 | shadok | thadood: you better read a doc on irc and the way it works |
| 20:47.13 | thadood | why is that ? |
| 20:47.18 | shadok | because i wasn't speaking to you |
| 20:47.41 | thadood | meh , what would ever make you think i was speaking to you ? |
| 20:47.51 | thadood | your mis-interpretations get you into trouble |
| 20:48.01 | thadood | your "Mis-conceptions" |
| 20:48.03 | thadood | :D |
| 20:48.10 | shadok | hmm |
| 20:48.18 | thadood | thadood 1 |
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| 20:50.25 | thadood | ill be back in about 15 minutes |
| 20:51.10 | pmatos | shadok: found nothing either. if you wish to know the answer, maybe someone will answer: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-3853780.html |
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| 20:51.52 | luther | how many CD's is Gentoo ? |
| 20:52.59 | Renze | man, I really hope he doesn't install gentoo... there are too many idiots using it already |
| 20:53.16 | _-InFeRnO-_ | yes |
| 20:54.04 | _-InFeRnO-_ | well... if you think, gentoo is "cool" because it's generally Linux distro with freebsd conceptions |
| 20:54.33 | loki_val | luther: 1 |
| 20:54.44 | shadok | hi Renze |
| 20:54.49 | Renze | 'lo shadok |
| 20:54.52 | loki_val | luther: and a fat internet pipe. |
| 20:55.33 | AlexElliott | loki_val, he quit :) |
| 20:55.37 | kirun | Aren't they called "tubes" these days? :P |
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| 20:55.49 | shadok | you're right his question already tells he can't read by himself :p |
| 20:56.10 | Renze | the ability to read is kinda vital for gentoo |
| 20:56.21 | loki_val | AlexElliot: Didn't see. Am ignoring part/join. Too many. |
| 20:56.29 | alaQ | kinda *Read: necessary* |
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| 20:56.40 | AlexElliott | Just thought it was worth saying to save you some effort |
| 20:56.43 | shadok | that gui installer has bring us many fools |
| 20:56.43 | loki_val | kirun: What was the name of that senator? |
| 20:56.56 | kirun | Ted Stevens? |
| 20:57.41 | shadok | pmatos: if i find a solution i'll post it but i'll not be searching one actively this evening :) |
| 20:57.51 | loki_val | Ted Stevens, yeah. "You know, the internet really isn't a big pool. Rather, it's many tubes. Fat one and thin ones..." |
| 20:59.24 | lotyrin | "It's not a big truck" |
| 21:00.02 | kirun | The funny thing is, given the packeted nature of the net, trucks are a reasonable metaphor |
| 21:00.12 | lotyrin | well |
| 21:00.23 | lotyrin | lots of tiny trucks maybe. |
| 21:01.28 | kirun | Though, according to the networking module I did at Uni, the Internet is a series of clouds connected by routers :P |
| 21:02.50 | alaQ | kirun: you win. :) |
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| 21:05.18 | gdiebel | uh tubes is not that bad of an analogy, depends on what is traveling through the tubes. liquid matter would make a good analogy since it expands to fill the tube yet travels and the speed that the tube allows. molecules of water=packets |
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| 21:08.49 | shadok | pmatos: have a look in this file (the lines containing "option") seems interesting /usr/share/hal/fdi/policy/10osvendor/20-storage-methods.fdi |
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| 21:13.26 | loki_val | kirun, lotyrin: (original quote):Ten movies streaming across that, that Internet, and what happens to your own personal Internet? I just the other day got... an Internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday, I got it yesterday. Why? Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the Internet commercially. |
| 21:14.48 | lotyrin | loki_val: I know. |
| 21:15.05 | lotyrin | There's a whole techno remix of that guy's rambling. |
| 21:15.07 | lotyrin | :) |
| 21:15.20 | loki_val | lotyrin: My recollection was actually pretty sane compared to reality. |
| 21:15.34 | kirun | There's a techno remix of the Cillit Bang advert :) |
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| 21:19.07 | pmatos | shadok: thank you... |
| 21:19.11 | pmatos | shadok: I willl |
| 21:19.17 | shadok | :) np |
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| 21:22.11 | StyXman | is there any way to turn off knoqueror's url beutification? as in converting %20 into a space and «correctly» showing utf chars in the url... |
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| 21:27.26 | thiago | StyXman: no |
| 21:27.37 | thiago | StyXman: but that's just the location bar |
| 21:27.51 | thiago | any use that happens directly will use the non-pretty form |
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| 21:28.27 | StyXman | thiago: yeap, but then I can't corretly pass a url selecting it from the location bar and copying over, say, ina IM windows o irc client |
| 21:28.47 | thiago | right |
| 21:28.50 | thiago | there's no way to turn that off |
| 21:28.58 | thiago | the code is in KURL itself |
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| 21:29.20 | StyXman | thiago: hacking it only, I see |
| 21:29.26 | thiago | yes |
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| 21:29.38 | thiago | fortunately, changing the function shouldn't break anything else |
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| 21:29.51 | thiago | KURL::prettyURL() is supposed to be used only to show information to the user |
| 21:30.08 | thiago | the internal format is preferred (like I said) when passing data around |
| 21:30.08 | mebsd | need help getting wlan to work, me in kde wireless assistant |
| 21:30.20 | thiago | kwifimanager? |
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| 21:30.51 | mebsd | where is it? |
| 21:31.04 | mariux | i prefer wlassistant |
| 21:31.51 | thiago | I meant: are you using kwifimanager? |
| 21:32.53 | mebsd | i using wlassistant |
| 21:33.20 | thiago | StyXman: hint: drag the page icon to the window you want to paste the URL in |
| 21:34.46 | gdiebel | peeps should try knetworkmanager |
| 21:34.51 | StyXman | thiago: being picky, it adds quotes :) |
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| 21:37.49 | thiago | StyXman: too picky :-P |
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| 21:38.30 | Flynth | hi, anyone knows why kmail's filter action to mark spam messages as read isn't working? They're moved to the right folder, but still are showing us unread. (i'm using debian kde 3.5.5) |
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| 21:40.29 | Flynth | It's driving me nuts every minute when kmail gets new messages via pop3 it reports few unreads, every minute i have to maximise it only to find that all unread mesages are spam |
| 21:41.51 | mebsd | how do i tell wlassistant to log to network with password? |
| 21:42.22 | kirun | Flynth: Are you using the "Ignore new mail for this folder" setting? |
| 21:42.54 | Flynth | Where is this setting? |
| 21:43.37 | thiago | mebsd: I've never heard of wlassistant |
| 21:43.40 | thiago | is that a KDE application? |
| 21:43.41 | kirun | Well, I just found a bugreport ( http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82381 ) for that problem where a commenter said it was the fix, so I'm not 100% sure |
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| 21:45.16 | Flynth | I have "act on new/unread messages in this folder" unticked for the folder, but it doesn't make a difference (well it does, till new batch arrives) |
| 21:46.00 | Flynth | Where can I find the "Ignore new mail for this folder"? |
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| 21:47.47 | thiago | that's the one |
| 21:48.02 | thiago | if you uncheck "act on new/unread", it means "ignore new/unread" |
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| 21:50.21 | Flynth | When I have some unread messages in the spam folder, I go to folder properties and untick the box, icon in the tray says that there ae no new messages. When new messages arrive they get transferred to spam folder and the total amount of unread messages displayed in the tray is set to new messages + old from spam folder. |
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| 21:52.01 | Flynth | I guess I'll have to post a comment to the bug mentioned earlier. |
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| 22:12.13 | Bjorn_ | I am using KIO to fetch some data from a dynamic asp page to a tray application, but I always get the same content, anyone who might know something about this here ? |
| 22:13.31 | thiago | do you see the same content in Konqueror? |
| 22:13.44 | Bjorn_ | no konqueror is updating the info |
| 22:15.27 | thiago | if you click the little Enter button next to the address? |
| 22:15.32 | thiago | or if you press reload? |
| 22:16.42 | Bjorn_ | at least if I press reload |
| 22:17.02 | Bjorn_ | itthe information is in a popup window normally |
| 22:17.45 | Bjorn_ | and I checked using ethereal I get sent the same information so it's not a local cache problem |
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| 22:22.32 | bbird | Hi |
| 22:22.44 | bbird | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:22.54 | bbird | google says it's possible to install the icons from a tarball, but it doesn't say where is it |
| 22:23.09 | bbird | do you have any suggestion ? |
| 22:24.42 | Bjorn_ | about my content fetching problem, the cookie string sent is different in the tray app comparing to the browser: |
| 22:24.46 | Bjorn_ | TrayApp: |
| 22:24.46 | Bjorn_ | Cookie: Snitz00User=Cookies=foo&Pword=PASS&Name=NAME%5F; ASPSESSIONIDSSTDQQQR=NJCIILLDNKJJJNJAJEMLPAAB |
| 22:24.46 | Bjorn_ | Browser: |
| 22:24.46 | Bjorn_ | Cookie: Snitz00User=Cookies%3D%26Pword%3DPASS%26Name%3DNAME; ASPSESSIONIDSSTDQQQR=FLCIILLDBDDMCLOMBBMGNCFN; Snitz00User=Cookies=foo&Pword=PASS&Name=Cygnus%5F; hml=pass=PASS&email=email@alfa.com |
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| 22:26.51 | smileaf | Bjorn_: you might wanna direct your question to #kde-devel |
| 22:27.47 | Bjorn_ | ok, thanks smileaf I might try there |
| 22:27.49 | shadok | bbird: http://www.sabayonlinux.org/forum/viewtopic.php?p=8888&sid=845f625d58ff1d88c8ad8c2a79bb99f3 |
| 22:29.01 | bbird | thanks a lot shadok !!! |
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| 22:29.06 | shadok | :) |
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| 22:32.32 | Frogbarf | I am trying to pair a bluetooh headset using kbluetooth. i see the device listed however I don't know how to "pair" it with the system. |
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| 22:33.57 | Frogbarf | The device is listes as "Moterola H700" in konqueror and when I click on it I see the services "Hands-Free Unit" (three times) and Headset. I think this is a good sign |
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| 22:47.40 | mariux | the klipper is kinda buggy from time to time |
| 22:47.56 | mariux | now what i paste everywhere is not at all what is on the top of the list in klipper |
| 22:48.03 | mariux | its something i copied a few hours ago |
| 22:48.16 | mariux | trying to copy something new doesnt help either |
| 22:49.09 | mariux | can someone try to copy something inside this page in konq? http://www.newscientist.com/channel/fundamentals/mg19025504.000 |
| 22:49.14 | mariux | then see if you can paste it |
| 22:49.20 | Frogbarf | does anyone know how to make bluetooth devices available in kde? |
| 22:49.43 | mariux | i copying in my konq is completely broken |
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| 22:50.13 | mariux | aseigo: what should i do to find out what is causing it? |
| 22:50.32 | mariux | Frogbarf: there is a bluetooththing for kde |
| 22:50.41 | Dark_Apostrophe | aseigo: The KDE run dialogue, is it a command that can be run itself? |
| 22:51.05 | aseigo | mariux: works here... khtml has had, and still does have, some copy n paste bugs though |
| 22:51.15 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: in kde3? no. it's part of kdesktop |
| 22:51.24 | Renze | Dark_Apostrophe: dcop kdesktop KDesktopIface popupExecuteCommand |
| 22:51.26 | Frogbarf | yes, i have it up. I can see the paired device, but it when I hold the mouse over the kbluetooth icon it says "not connected". |
| 22:51.30 | mariux | the bug was probably caused by another weboage |
| 22:51.30 | aseigo | Dark_Apostrophe: so you can start kdesktop if it isn't running and then use dcop to pull it up |
| 22:51.30 | Dark_Apostrophe | Renze: Ah, thanks |
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| 22:52.06 | Frogbarf | i'm proud to have gottten this far. |
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| 22:52.35 | Frogbarf | i see the profiles listed |
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| 23:12.49 | Atmalion | what is the name of kde's terminal program? |
| 23:12.52 | Atmalion | gnome-terminal is borked |
| 23:12.55 | Atmalion | and xterm SUUUCKS |
| 23:12.58 | wolsni | konsole |
| 23:13.28 | Atmalion | alt key combinations dont work on xterm apparently.. |
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| 23:14.27 | thiago | they work just fine here |
| 23:14.36 | Atmalion | they arent working for me in irssi |
| 23:14.40 | thiago | Alt+A in irssi moves to the next window with activity |
| 23:14.44 | Atmalion | anyone happen to knwo where i can get a native linux client for quake3? |
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| 23:14.55 | thiago | ah, you probably tried Alt+Left, right? |
| 23:14.56 | Atmalion | on here its just making a funny looking a |
| 23:15.02 | Atmalion | i tried alt-1 alt-2 etc |
| 23:15.06 | thiago | press the left Alt key |
| 23:15.10 | thiago | the right Alt is AltGr |
| 23:15.16 | thiago | you're probably seeing æ |
| 23:15.17 | Atmalion | it says 3D3C3D |
| 23:15.21 | Atmalion | ááá |
| 23:15.24 | Atmalion | ´³´³ |
| 23:15.29 | Atmalion | thats the kind of crap its doing ;) |
| 23:15.30 | thiago | ok, that's an irssi problem |
| 23:15.35 | Atmalion | it works fine on gnome |
| 23:15.36 | Atmalion | and konsole |
| 23:15.38 | thiago | Settings, Keyboard, Linux Console |
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| 23:15.46 | thiago | that fixes it for irssi |
| 23:15.49 | Atmalion | oh i see |
| 23:15.50 | benJIman | you can make alt-left and alt-right work fine in konsole |
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| 23:16.01 | Atmalion | im trying to run quake3 in wine, cause i dont have a native version |
| 23:16.06 | Atmalion | so i tried it, and the keybaord didnt work |
| 23:16.10 | benJIman | settings -> keyboard -> linux console |
| 23:16.16 | Atmalion | so i came on here and my alt buttons didnt work so i thought maybe somehow it was xterms fault |
| 23:16.16 | benJIman | then alt-left and alt-right should work in irssi |
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| 23:16.38 | benJIman | oh thiago already said. |
| 23:16.40 | benJIman | meh |
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| 23:17.06 | Atmalion | thx |
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| 23:18.28 | mariux | he doesnt have the native version? Its free... |
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| 23:20.14 | rabby | hello |
| 23:20.28 | rabby | i just installed the kopete ebuild at gentoo |
| 23:20.42 | rabby | anway the history module is missing :( |
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| 23:22.49 | PhilRod | rabby: best to ask in #gentoo or #gentoo-kde, although there are usually some gentoo users around in here |
| 23:23.34 | rabby | ok, i will try |
| 23:23.47 | rabby | You do not know where to get the module? |
| 23:24.10 | Renze | rabby: two words: use flags |
| 23:24.15 | thiago | list your available packages and grep for "history" |
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| 23:25.01 | PhilRod | Renze: but what if he doesn't want to use flags? ;-) |
| 23:25.56 | PhilRod | ow |
| 23:26.40 | rabby | thanks. the flag is simply called "history" |
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| 23:34.11 | PhilRod | .xsession, but I don't think kdm uses it - take a look at the kdm docs |
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