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| 00:11.27 | mortici | is there away to adjust dpms settings through KDE |
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| 00:22.45 | Senesence | Hello |
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| 00:24.48 | imagine | I wanna use my calendar so whenever I change info on either my laptop or my PC the other box get the change and update itself.. what would be the best way to do that? |
| 00:25.08 | Kyral_ | ...exchange iCal files? |
| 00:25.18 | imagine | through what? ... |
| 00:25.38 | Kyral_ | usbkey? |
| 00:25.41 | imagine | I was thinkin about IMAP server.. but not sure if it would work so I'm askin for tips or ideas |
| 00:25.48 | imagine | it's not very effective |
| 00:25.50 | Kyral_ | Honestly I don't think about that kinda thing :D |
| 00:26.23 | imagine | alright.. ty |
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| 00:36.24 | Zombie | Hello. |
| 00:36.45 | Kyral_ | ...who dares disturb the idling!? j/k |
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| 00:37.01 | Zombie | I'm trying to do a Policy Deployment. |
| 00:37.10 | Kyral_ | ...wazzat? |
| 00:37.27 | Zombie | I'm in an OpenLDAP/Kerberos/Samba/eGroupware environment. |
| 00:37.39 | Zombie | and SSH is of course availible if we need fish:// |
| 00:37.46 | Kyral_ | ...I have heard of 3 of those |
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| 00:37.55 | Zombie | Which ones? |
| 00:38.04 | Kyral_ | ! eGroupware |
| 00:38.16 | Zombie | X Error: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) 8 |
| 00:38.16 | Zombie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.16 | Zombie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.16 | Zombie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:38.23 | Zombie | Have you seen this error? |
| 00:38.32 | Kyral_ | .....What app? X? |
| 00:39.16 | thiago | Zombie: happens all of the time. |
| 00:39.18 | thiago | which app? |
| 00:39.31 | Zombie | kiosktool. |
| 00:39.41 | Zombie | The buttons on kiosktool stopped wrking |
| 00:40.09 | thiago | Zombie: bug, but not generally a serious one |
| 00:40.26 | Zombie | The buttons in userland Kiosktool stopped working. |
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| 00:41.35 | thiago | ok, then it is a serious bug |
| 00:41.36 | JtRip | hi |
| 00:41.39 | thiago | can you reproduce it easily? |
| 00:41.59 | Zombie | Yse,. |
| 00:42.06 | Kyral_ | BUG REPORT TIME! |
| 00:43.01 | Tiger | nice |
| 00:44.31 | JtRip | how to print japanese letters in kwrite or in any other kde program? |
| 00:44.52 | Kyral_ | You need the right fonts |
| 00:44.56 | Zombie | Can I at least attempt to explain what I am trying to do? |
| 00:45.04 | Zombie | I have a LAN of Linux machines. |
| 00:45.21 | Zombie | I want to deploy a custom policy. |
| 00:45.28 | Kyral_ | define policy |
| 00:46.40 | JtRip | <Kyral_> it prints english letters only :/ |
| 00:47.03 | JtRip | copy-paste works fine |
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| 00:47.14 | Kyral_ | JtRip: Dunno off the top of my head |
| 00:47.22 | Kyral_ | damn my mind is in a funk right now |
| 00:48.57 | thiago | Zombie: I understood what you want |
| 00:49.02 | thiago | Zombie: but if there's a bug, there's a bug |
| 00:49.24 | Kyral_ | unless its a feature :P |
| 00:49.26 | thiago | JtRip: print, as in printer? |
| 00:49.53 | JtRip | nope as input |
| 00:50.24 | Zombie | Allright. |
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| 00:52.14 | thiago | JtRip: are you using a Japanese input layout? |
| 00:52.36 | JtRip | yap |
| 00:52.50 | thiago | does it work in other KDE programs? |
| 00:53.19 | JtRip | no |
| 00:53.57 | Zombie | Okay. |
| 00:54.03 | DaSkreech | Can someone explain sonnet? |
| 00:54.20 | thiago | JtRip: I can't help more |
| 00:54.39 | thiago | DaSkreech: it's a verse composition, in a 4, 4, 3, 3 style, generally 10 syllables |
| 00:54.42 | Zombie | See, I have an issue I'm wanting to Resolve, its a little complex. |
| 00:55.06 | DaSkreech | Sort of a drawn out haiku? |
| 00:55.09 | Zombie | Currently, I use a Special Kerberos patched Egroupware setup to do mail services for my home. |
| 00:55.18 | DaSkreech | WHich is in svn now I should go check them out |
| 00:55.23 | Zombie | But, while with Kerberos+FireFox+eGroupware, I've managed to come up with a real easy means of Single sign on. |
| 00:55.33 | thiago | DaSkreech: oh, the one in Subversion... :-) |
| 00:55.37 | Zombie | The Web Interface isn't well liked. |
| 00:55.48 | Zombie | I would rather Use Kontact. |
| 00:55.56 | Zombie | I need a way of Server deploying Kontact Policies. |
| 00:56.05 | thiago | DaSkreech: Sonnet is the replacement for kspell2 |
| 00:56.18 | thiago | DaSkreech: it will include grammar checking, if possible |
| 00:56.44 | thiago | Zombie: was it you earlier to whom I recommended NFS? |
| 00:56.46 | DaSkreech | thiago: Is it an app or a project? |
| 00:57.16 | thiago | DaSkreech: library |
| 00:57.38 | Zombie | Yes. but unfortunately, kiosktool only supports fish:// |
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| 00:57.59 | thiago | Zombie: that has nothing to do with the configuration |
| 00:58.08 | thiago | Zombie: basically, what you want is: |
| 00:58.15 | thiago | Zombie: configure a Kontact the way you want |
| 00:58.23 | Zombie | Its more than that. |
| 00:58.29 | thiago | Zombie: then get the kontactrc and related files and strip down what you want |
| 00:58.33 | thiago | add the [$i] |
| 00:58.42 | thiago | put them in a $KDEDIRS-search config |
| 00:58.44 | Zombie | I do want to be able to create a standard Desktop feel./ |
| 00:58.46 | DaSkreech | thiago: so no offical site then? |
| 00:58.49 | thiago | DaSkreech: no |
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| 00:58.54 | DaSkreech | HTanks |
| 00:58.54 | Zombie | Certain Icons. |
| 00:58.55 | DaSkreech | Thanks |
| 00:59.02 | Zombie | Certain wallpare. |
| 00:59.03 | thiago | Zombie: you can do that for all applications |
| 00:59.06 | Zombie | Certain wallpaper/. |
| 00:59.06 | DaSkreech | Is KDE still the largest Open Source Project? |
| 00:59.17 | thiago | Zombie: kiosktool is just the tool to help do it |
| 00:59.31 | thiago | DaSkreech: how do you define "large" ? |
| 00:59.48 | Zombie | A problem. |
| 00:59.59 | Zombie | Different Users have different IMAP servers,. |
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| 01:00.41 | thiago | Zombie: don't lock down the IMAP account settings |
| 01:01.39 | DaSkreech | thiago: more volume than medium? |
| 01:01.54 | thiago | DaSkreech: what's your metric? |
| 01:02.03 | Zombie | I need the settings of the profiles to "follow" them to different PCs. |
| 01:02.12 | thiago | DaSkreech: number of lines of code? Number of active users? Number of developers? Number of active community people? |
| 01:02.15 | DaSkreech | thiago: Code! What else matters? |
| 01:02.21 | thiago | Zombie: share the $HOME |
| 01:03.01 | thiago | DaSkreech: according to the Coverity scan, KDE is the largest or second largest |
| 01:03.04 | thiago | it depends on the day |
| 01:03.36 | DaSkreech | What challenges it? |
| 01:03.42 | thiago | NetBSD |
| 01:04.11 | thiago | the next being the Linux kernel |
| 01:04.31 | DaSkreech | Interesting |
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| 01:07.37 | skreet | How do I create my own Xsession |
| 01:07.44 | skreet | I created a file in /etc/X11/Sessions |
| 01:08.49 | skreet | But I dont see it when using kdm |
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| 01:10.51 | ilyak | Browsed entire icon set category |
| 01:11.07 | ilyak | Found none usable for dark theme :( |
| 01:11.30 | skreet | Anyone here know how to create a customer Xsession? |
| 01:11.31 | ilyak | can someone please tell me if you know icon theme on these screenshots: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php |
| 01:11.50 | ilyak | skreet: create what? |
| 01:12.08 | skreet | *custom XSession |
| 01:13.21 | mcrandello | ilyak: I got a big ole "not found" there |
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| 01:13.45 | mcrandello | anyone know of an easy way to change the favicons on the bookmark bar in konq? |
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| 01:14.55 | mcrandello | I imported my FF bookmarks and now they all have a generic mimetype icon, and clicking them doesn't update it like it does in FF/Opera |
| 01:15.58 | skreet | Anyone know how to create a custom XSession. I made a file in /etc/X11/Sessions |
| 01:16.08 | Kyral_ | a custom XSession? |
| 01:16.19 | skreet | Yes. |
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| 01:16.25 | skreet | So I can have another session option in kdm |
| 01:16.31 | skreet | .. |
| 01:16.41 | Kyral_ | skreet: Sorry was trying to clear my mind |
| 01:16.48 | skreet | Is that a bad thing to do or something? |
| 01:17.02 | Kyral_ | skreet: No it was me trying to clear the fog in my mind :D |
| 01:17.24 | Kyral_ | skreet: you need to modify the KDM conf to add a new entry to the menu |
| 01:18.01 | skreet | Do you happen to know what KDM file I have to edit, or where it is :( |
| 01:18.09 | thiago | kdmrc |
| 01:18.14 | Kyral_ | yah... |
| 01:19.07 | ilyak | mcrandello: oh sorry |
| 01:19.56 | mcrandello | I think there was a "?content=foo" missing after the url |
| 01:19.57 | ilyak | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=48437 |
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| 01:20.25 | ilyak | Can someone tell me the icon set these screenshot star? |
| 01:20.41 | Kyral_ | ilyak: hows about posting a comment asking? |
| 01:20.51 | benJIman | ilyak: nuovext |
| 01:21.00 | ilyak | benJIman: thx, I'll look up |
| 01:21.01 | benJIman | ilyak: well in the first one |
| 01:21.06 | benJIman | the last screenshot has tango |
| 01:21.19 | benJIman | first two are nuovext the last one is tango |
| 01:21.49 | TheSimkin | how could i run a command *just* before starting kdm ? |
| 01:22.39 | thiago | TheSimkin: /etc/init.d/local, probably |
| 01:23.47 | ilyak | benJIman: Thanx a lot |
| 01:23.51 | ilyak | I'll use that |
| 01:24.05 | ilyak | Kyral_: Actually I did :) |
| 01:24.19 | benJIman | thiago: edit the init script which starts kdm |
| 01:24.27 | benJIman | /etc/init.d/kdm probably |
| 01:24.56 | thiago | benJIman: not so here |
| 01:25.22 | benJIman | probably /etc/init.d/xdm on many distros |
| 01:26.25 | thiago | /etc/init.d/dm here |
| 01:26.31 | thiago | that's why I recommeded local |
| 01:26.46 | benJIman | well that won't be "just before" but some time before probably |
| 01:26.51 | benJIman | depends why it is wanted |
| 01:26.58 | thiago | true |
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| 01:35.30 | mcrandello | here's another one, anyone know what all those funnel/filters are at the lower left corner of konqueror, under the status bar? |
| 01:36.04 | mcrandello | the one in the lower right OF the status bar brings up the adblocker but those other ones just sit there and mock me |
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| 01:40.27 | liam | hello, i want to add a theme to kde? can someone please tell me where to put the files once downloaded? or what procedures to take? |
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| 01:40.52 | CSMan | hey folks, how do I make it rain in beryl? |
| 01:41.02 | CSMan | is it alt+f9? |
| 01:41.43 | benJIman | CSMan: not really a kde question, and you can view the keyboard shortcut in the beryl-settings if you have the plugin enabled |
| 01:41.57 | mcrandello | liam: I think you can just make a directory somewhere, save the .kth files and then double click them, or install them from the kcontrol themes section |
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| 01:44.48 | mcrandello | have they changed the location of the favicons in 3.5.5? |
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| 01:45.25 | liam | i have unzipped the theme file i downloaded but there are no kth files in there |
| 01:45.32 | thiago | mcrandello: no |
| 01:45.34 | Renze | mcrandello: no, they're in /var/tmp/dkecache-<user>/favicons/ like always |
| 01:45.49 | Renze | liam: then it is not a theme... maybe it is a style? |
| 01:46.06 | liam | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=39340 |
| 01:46.12 | liam | thats the one i downloaded |
| 01:46.20 | liam | its just picture files in there |
| 01:46.20 | Renze | ah, a KDM theme |
| 01:46.34 | liam | yeah |
| 01:46.36 | Renze | get the kdm theme manager |
| 01:46.42 | liam | from? |
| 01:46.54 | liam | im in kcontrol |
| 01:47.31 | Renze | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=22120 |
| 01:47.48 | mcrandello | Renze: I wonder how long it's been since they were in file:/home/username/.kde/share/icons/favicons |
| 01:47.58 | Renze | mcrandello: a *long* time |
| 01:47.59 | mcrandello | they really should put an expiration date on webpages |
| 01:48.48 | liam | which one should i download |
| 01:48.54 | liam | slack, suse or fedora? |
| 01:49.05 | Renze | liam: I don't know what distro you use |
| 01:49.11 | liam | kubuntu |
| 01:49.25 | Renze | liam: then it is probably already in the distro repository |
| 01:49.29 | liam | ok |
| 01:50.23 | mcrandello | liam sudo apt-get install kdmtheme kde-kdm-themes |
| 01:50.31 | mcrandello | might already have that one in there |
| 01:51.24 | liam | ok |
| 01:51.28 | liam | where will that be now |
| 01:51.36 | liam | just under kcontrol? |
| 01:51.47 | Renze | kcontrol -> system administration |
| 01:51.56 | mcrandello | perhaps, I still haven't got rid of gdm or the default theme :) |
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| 01:54.21 | liam | it doesnt let me do anything |
| 01:54.33 | liam | none of the buttons are highlighted to use in kdm |
| 01:54.34 | Renze | click administrator mode at the bottom |
| 01:54.51 | liam | done that but seems to be taking ages |
| 01:55.12 | mcrandello | it does, it'll come back, possibly with a different theme and a red border |
| 01:55.20 | Renze | maybe because kubuntu doesn't have a real root account |
| 01:55.52 | liam | its got a red border with loading... in the middle |
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| 01:57.51 | liam | nope nothing coming of that at all |
| 01:58.06 | mcrandello | middle click the title bar and see if there isn't a password window that got stuck behind it |
| 01:59.01 | mcrandello | if that doesn't do it maybe launch it with "kdesu kcontrol" from a konsole window, but don't edit anything other than the kdm stuff |
| 02:02.47 | liam | thanks thats working but now i click apply on new theme and nothing happens? |
| 02:03.58 | mcrandello | if it's a kdm theme you'll probably have to end session and maybe kill the x server to see it |
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| 02:06.11 | liam | ok |
| 02:06.18 | liam | its only changed the login screen is that right? |
| 02:06.31 | mcrandello | if it's a kdm theme then yes |
| 02:06.55 | liam | oh |
| 02:06.56 | liam | lol |
| 02:07.04 | liam | so how do i install kde themes? |
| 02:08.33 | mcrandello | there are a few ways |
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| 02:08.41 | Q-collective | kcontrol -> appearance & themes -> theme manager -> install a new theme |
| 02:08.44 | Sho_ | liam: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 02:08.46 | Q-collective | from the top of my head |
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| 02:09.09 | mcrandello | 1rst thing start here -> http://www.kde-look.org/content/search.php |
| 02:09.28 | liam | yeah ok |
| 02:09.29 | mcrandello | and make sure the "depends on:" dropdown is set for your specific version |
| 02:09.35 | liam | but whats a theme file? |
| 02:09.43 | Sho_ | liam: It's all explained on http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 02:09.46 | liam | whast the ending .kvh or whatever |
| 02:09.54 | mcrandello | there's nothing worse than finding a kickass theme and then not being able to install it because it was for 2 versions ago |
| 02:10.27 | Q-collective | mcrandello: then port it? |
| 02:10.28 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:11.16 | mcrandello | I can get by the graphics programs but when it comes to things like file paths and writing configuration files and packaging things I start to break out in hives |
| 02:11.19 | mcrandello | :) |
| 02:11.56 | liam | thanks guys much help |
| 02:11.57 | liam | #:d |
| 02:12.12 | liam | how do i set the homefolder and trash to be on the desktop? |
| 02:12.22 | mcrandello | generally I stick with finding a nice background and then working with the colors and window borders etc. already installed |
| 02:13.24 | mcrandello | home folder you can just drag out of a konqueror window then select "link here" |
| 02:14.41 | mcrandello | if you lost the trash icon type "trash:/" into konqueror then drag the little icon over to the desktop, I think that will do it |
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| 02:23.35 | mcrandello | ah the bookmarks editor lets you set the icon |
| 02:24.15 | mcrandello | I kept expecting something in the right click->properties menu |
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| 02:28.46 | liam | hello |
| 02:28.55 | liam | whats the website u gave me to help me on the themes/ |
| 02:29.09 | mcrandello | http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 02:29.11 | mcrandello | that one? |
| 02:30.06 | Sho_ | that was the one |
| 02:37.27 | liam | cheers |
| 02:37.56 | liam | where are the icon pictures stored? |
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| 02:40.18 | mcrandello | I think gnome and kde both put them in /usr/share/icons |
| 02:40.25 | Renze | he's gone |
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| 02:41.11 | mcrandello | harumph |
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| 02:41.49 | thiago | it's the spec |
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| 02:59.46 | mcrandello | is there any way to get the toolbar icons in konqueror back below 22x22? |
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| 03:07.05 | mcrandello | awesome .kde/share/gonfig/kdeglobals |
| 03:07.25 | workman161 | gonfig, eh? ;) |
| 03:07.40 | mcrandello | ah |
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| 03:08.37 | mcrandello | I wonder if I copied those sections out and into the konquerorrc if it would leave the other apps icons at 22 and just put konq's at 16 |
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| 03:13.17 | varicello | which the used language in kde |
| 03:13.39 | thiago | English |
| 03:13.41 | bline | C++ |
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| 03:32.30 | acaiado | hello |
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| 03:32.59 | Wacky_Walrus | hey fellas |
| 03:34.30 | bline | hey fella |
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| 03:39.07 | pipegeek | Running kubuntu edgy (kde 3.5.5). I've got the mildly annoying problem that file browsing windows open waaaay to large. My desktop is at 1600x1200, and, until it is resized, a newly opened file browsing window will take up 3/4 of that. |
| 03:39.20 | pipegeek | I've already changed the size in the file browsing view profile, but, for some reason, that hasn't fixed it for folders on remote filesystems. Any ideas? |
| 03:39.29 | pipegeek | For that matter, the "view profile" options are entirely absent from konqueror's settings menu for folders on remote filesystems. |
| 03:40.01 | pipegeek | Damn, typo. to => too |
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| 03:44.26 | StarScream | pipegeek: you can save the profile with the windows size |
| 03:44.30 | StarScream | so open up konq |
| 03:44.37 | StarScream | then resize it , and save the profile |
| 03:44.46 | StarScream | from now on it will open up that size |
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| 03:45.09 | pipegeek | Right |
| 03:45.10 | pipegeek | but |
| 03:45.34 | pipegeek | StarScream: The profile options disappear when looking at folders on remote filesystems. I *can't* save the profile at all. |
| 03:45.57 | pipegeek | Actually |
| 03:46.00 | pipegeek | more accurately: |
| 03:46.30 | pipegeek | I've configured konqueror to open folders in new windows. Any folder opened that way lacks the profile options in the settings menu, be it remote or no. Kind of dumb, really |
| 03:47.34 | StarScream | pipegeek: k well its your setting then...i've just changed mine to do the same thing and i still get the open to save the profile |
| 03:47.51 | pipegeek | At least folders on the local filesystem obey the file browsing profile, but folders on remote samba shares do not |
| 03:48.19 | pipegeek | You've opened a folder, and then opened a subfolder of that folder? |
| 03:48.26 | StarScream | i haven't checked over smb but it works fine over ftp and fish |
| 03:48.39 | StarScream | i don't have a windows / samba share to test on sorry |
| 03:48.48 | pipegeek | Damn. Maybe it's a kubuntu thing. |
| 03:48.52 | pipegeek | Very annoying |
| 03:49.10 | StarScream | check bugs.kde.org... and see if its there |
| 03:49.18 | StarScream | but it seems to work fine for me on slackware |
| 03:49.20 | pipegeek | This is a fresh, not-customized-until-right-now install. Very weird. Thanks anyway |
| 03:49.22 | StarScream | which is vanilla kde |
| 03:49.28 | pipegeek | right |
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| 04:30.20 | azazello | "MESSAGE ERROR: the installed kdelibs version 3.5.5 is too old, at least version 3.9.0 is required" |
| 04:30.30 | azazello | is what I get when I try to compile kdebase... |
| 04:30.48 | nico | azazello: what distro are you using? |
| 04:31.09 | azazello | gentoo |
| 04:31.14 | azazello | I'm following the instructions at http://developer.kde.org/build/trunk.html |
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| 04:31.27 | nico | did you try "emerge kdelibs"? |
| 04:31.51 | azazello | uh I'm trying to build kde 4 |
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| 04:32.32 | nico | um, sorry, no clue about kde4 |
| 04:32.39 | jarn | KSysGuard always starts minimized for some reason. Is there any way to fix this? |
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| 04:56.35 | _Atomo64_ | hi... is there any way to convert a .raw file from krec directly into an mp3/ogg/wav ? |
| 04:56.36 | jarn | Anyone know if there's a way to force an application that's fullscreen to open in a window? |
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| 05:07.45 | Dr_willis | what app? |
| 05:08.01 | jarn | Apps in general. |
| 05:08.11 | jarn | But in this case, it's enemy territory. |
| 05:08.23 | Dr_willis | command line option for the game |
| 05:09.16 | jarn | There is one? |
| 05:09.31 | Dr_willis | check the docs.. :) most all those games have failsafe and other options |
| 05:12.00 | _Atomo64_ | jarn: app --help |
| 05:12.01 | _Atomo64_ | :P |
| 05:12.42 | jarn | _Atomo64_: That just runs it. :P |
| 05:13.00 | _Atomo64_ | jarn: then try with -h; or man game |
| 05:14.19 | jarn | Enemy territory was not a game originally made for Linux. |
| 05:15.20 | jarn | It has no man page. And it doesn't have the same standards linux games have that -h or --help is help about it. |
| 05:15.42 | Kibou | +set r_fullscreen 0 |
| 05:18.34 | jarn | Kibou: Thanks, but that's not quite what I was looking for. While it makes it not fullscreen, it doesn't do what I was hoping for. My problem with ET is that it steals my mouse and doesn't let me move it outside the window. I was hoping that if there was a way to force things to go to a window through KDE it would not take control of my mouse. It appears not, however... :( |
| 05:20.32 | Dr_willis | Enrmy Terriorty uses the Quake2 engine i do belive |
| 05:20.32 | Kibou | you have to open the console in et to get the mouse |
| 05:20.32 | Dr_willis | and all the quake games ive seen have some sort of command line options. |
| 05:20.34 | Kibou | it uses a modiified q3 engine |
| 05:20.49 | Dr_willis | I tend to play RTCW:ET :) |
| 05:20.50 | Kibou | -moronic spelling |
| 05:21.10 | Dr_willis | or was there yet another one im confused with. |
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| 05:21.32 | jarn | Kibou: Oh, thanks! I did not know I could get my mouse back by opening the console. |
| 05:21.50 | Kibou | yep |
| 05:23.28 | jarn | Do you know how I find out the Window class for ET (for use with Window-specific Settings)? |
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| 05:24.39 | jarn | The Detect button is, for some reason, not returning anything. |
| 05:24.50 | jarn | It says Class: ( ) |
| 05:25.15 | Kibou | no clue |
| 05:25.24 | jarn | Thanks anyway. |
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| 05:27.04 | jarn | I'm not sure if this is a problem with KDE or X, but for some reason after a game runs fullscreen, when I'm done playing it, the screen's shape becomes distorted, there are black bars on the screen, and the gamma is higher. |
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| 05:29.47 | hagabaka | does it run in a resolution your display supports? |
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| 05:30.40 | jarn | Well, I would assume so. My card should certainly be capable of handling 1024x768 and that's the reso my desktop is. |
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| 05:31.50 | Shirakawasuna | I can't seem to get kaudiocreator to finish this one track |
| 05:32.02 | Shirakawasuna | it's stuck at ripping at 97% (brand new cd). Does anyone have any tips? |
| 05:35.01 | Shirakawasuna | if I could find the .wav it's creating I could just encode that |
| 05:36.06 | StarScream | Shirakawasuna: try using konquror to rip the CD's |
| 05:36.18 | StarScream | type audiocd: into konq |
| 05:36.25 | Dr_willis | it aint one of those silly protected cds ? |
| 05:36.27 | Shirakawasuna | I thought that used kaudiocreator |
| 05:36.37 | StarScream | Shirakawasuna: possibly..not sure. |
| 05:36.41 | Shirakawasuna | don't think so, this is track 7 on the third disk of a set |
| 05:37.01 | StarScream | Shirakawasuna: there are a few copy protected cd's that have issues with one or two tracks |
| 05:37.05 | Shirakawasuna | audiocd doens't come up w/ anything |
| 05:37.09 | Shirakawasuna | lame |
| 05:37.42 | StarScream | ayduicd:/ |
| 05:37.45 | StarScream | oops |
| 05:37.47 | StarScream | audiocd:/ |
| 05:37.47 | Shirakawasuna | there, got it :) |
| 05:37.51 | Shirakawasuna | let's see if it will rip the whole thing |
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| 05:41.57 | Shirakawasuna | alright, got a wav file |
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| 05:44.27 | Shirakawasuna | thanks for the tip, I got audiocd:/ to at least give me a .wav |
| 05:45.18 | Jucato | audiocd:/ will convert to anything as long as the encoder is installed (LAME, etc) |
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| 05:53.44 | LiquidNerd | hmmm.. is it possible to make amarok download the album art with a . in front? it's really annoying seeing it in my directories... or atleast it could put them all in 1 dir... |
| 05:53.52 | LiquidNerd | I can't find anything to do this in the menus |
| 05:53.54 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 05:54.19 | Q-collective | Jucato: can audiocd:/ also retrieve meta info, like names, artists, etc? |
| 05:54.37 | Q-collective | it just gives me a "track1", "track 2", etc |
| 05:54.38 | Q-collective | :\ |
| 05:54.41 | Jucato | not really sure |
| 05:55.31 | Jucato | maybe you can check the settings in KControl -> Sound & Multimedia -> Audio CDs |
| 05:57.58 | Q-collective | those settings look fine |
| 05:58.33 | Jucato | nothing about metadata and IDv3? |
| 05:59.29 | Q-collective | well, no |
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| 06:00.23 | deb_noob | does anyone know how to install mtp support for amaroK? |
| 06:01.21 | Q-collective | deb_noob: shouldn't you ask that in #debian? |
| 06:01.29 | deb_noob | i suppose |
| 06:07.36 | Red_Cloud | Hello! I have just completed an install of Linux From Scratch and have installed quite a bit of Beyond Linux from Scratch. I have my X Windows Server operating with xterm and have quite a few x packages installed. I am about to install KDE into this operating system. Has anyone here done an install into Linux From Scratch? |
| 06:07.58 | workman161 | I have |
| 06:08.18 | Red_Cloud | workman161 did you have very many problems? |
| 06:08.25 | workman161 | Nope |
| 06:08.35 | workman161 | I just followed what the LFS and BLFS books told me |
| 06:09.03 | workman161 | nothing more than the standard ./configure && make && make install |
| 06:09.10 | Red_Cloud | workman161, my motto is "I do it right the 2nd time". Will this hinder me much? |
| 06:09.16 | workman161 | shouldn't |
| 06:09.27 | workman161 | Jucato: I did it on a PII Compaq Armada :> |
| 06:09.45 | Jucato | workman161: narrows you down to two of my choices :) |
| 06:11.25 | workman161 | which two :) |
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| 06:12.12 | Jucato | guess :) |
| 06:13.54 | workman161 | patient and crazy |
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| 06:14.43 | Jucato | workman161: smart guess :P |
| 06:15.02 | jarn | The man page for kstart tells me to do 'man x' to get more info for one option, but there is no man page for x |
| 06:15.04 | Jucato | Q-collective: I only said the choices are narrowed... (doesn't mean he's both :P ) |
| 06:15.37 | Q-collective | Jucato: I know, but if one has to choose... ;) |
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| 06:15.41 | workman161 | I've thought about doing it on my Pentium I gateway machine, just because I don't feel like taking it down to install monowall |
| 06:15.46 | workman161 | so crazy works |
| 06:15.56 | Jucato | heheh ) |
| 06:15.58 | Jucato | :) |
| 06:16.22 | Red_Cloud | workman161 my install was on a pentium4 gateway machine. |
| 06:16.34 | Q-collective | anyone installing lfs and using it for any extended period of time is completely loony in my books |
| 06:16.36 | Q-collective | :p |
| 06:16.36 | workman161 | by 'gateway' I mean network gateway. not manuf. |
| 06:16.52 | Red_Cloud | I meant manu |
| 06:17.05 | Q-collective | we guessed |
| 06:17.24 | Red_Cloud | no need to guess. |
| 06:17.25 | Q-collective | a p4 network gateway would be a little bit overkill++ ;) |
| 06:17.43 | workman161 | or would it :) |
| 06:17.55 | Q-collective | :o |
| 06:18.42 | deb_noob | can anyone help me diagnose this error message for a ./configure of kzenexplorer? checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 06:18.56 | Red_Cloud | workman161 I enjoy my LFS install so much that I find myself spending about 90 % of my time there. And prefer it over the packaged distros that I have installed. |
| 06:19.26 | deb_noob | anyone? |
| 06:19.28 | workman161 | Don't worry Red_Cloud. It'll wear off once time comes for updating things |
| 06:19.47 | workman161 | deb_noob: install your XF86-server-devel package, whatever it may be for debian |
| 06:20.08 | deb_noob | thank you |
| 06:20.11 | Q-collective | xf86? |
| 06:20.41 | workman161 | xfree86, Q-collective |
| 06:20.52 | deb_noob | any other names for it? |
| 06:20.55 | Q-collective | workman161: jee, I got that part |
| 06:21.09 | Q-collective | but why talk about ancient software? |
| 06:21.17 | deb_noob | workman161: any other names for it? |
| 06:21.21 | Q-collective | unless deb_noob is using stable debian ofcourse |
| 06:21.36 | deb_noob | i'm using etch |
| 06:21.39 | Q-collective | ah |
| 06:21.42 | Q-collective | try xorg |
| 06:22.03 | deb_noob | xorg-dev? |
| 06:22.08 | Q-collective | Red_Cloud: if lfs starts to bore you, the solution is easy: install portage |
| 06:22.09 | Q-collective | =) |
| 06:22.31 | Q-collective | deb_noob: I have no clue, I don't use debian |
| 06:23.32 | deb_noob | xserver-xorg-dev did not do the trick |
| 06:23.48 | Red_Cloud | Q-collective I will check into it. Thanks |
| 06:24.19 | deb_noob | anyone? |
| 06:24.58 | Q-collective | deb_noob: this is not in any way related to kde |
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| 06:25.07 | Jucato | deb_noob: xorg-dev |
| 06:25.09 | deb_noob | kzenexplorer is |
| 06:25.10 | Balsamic_Chicken | deb_noob what was ur question, i tried to read above |
| 06:25.20 | Balsamic_Chicken | !kzenexplorer |
| 06:25.22 | deb_noob | i'm trying to install kzenexplorer |
| 06:25.44 | jarn | The man page for kstart tells me to do 'man x' to get more info for one option (geometry), but there is no man page for x |
| 06:28.07 | deb_noob | okay the new error is checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
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| 06:28.17 | deb_noob | which package would that be? |
| 06:28.19 | Jucato | deb_noob: kde-devel |
| 06:28.28 | deb_noob | kde-dev is installed |
| 06:28.50 | Jucato | sure? I find that weird... |
| 06:28.52 | deb_noob | something about Qt 3.2 |
| 06:29.06 | deb_noob | okay it wasn't |
| 06:29.15 | deb_noob | kde-dev and kde-devel are different, sorry |
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| 09:28.12 | LucianSolaris | 9ALL: how do i force knetworkmanager to see my eth0 (wireless). It sees eth1 as my wired connection but i'm stuck with wifi-radar, some ugly ass, root only, gtk app. |
| 09:28.34 | LucianSolaris | 9my card is a ndiswrappered broadcom |
| 09:28.40 | pinotree | wow, using black for text is lame, isn'it? |
| 09:28.41 | Balsamic_Chicken | i thought wlan0 is wireless |
| 09:28.59 | Balsamic_Chicken | i wanna use green text too, hurts ur eyes lol =) |
| 09:29.00 | LucianSolaris | 9no, balsamic, it isn't on my system |
| 09:29.07 | Balsamic_Chicken | k |
| 09:29.18 | LucianSolaris | 9what, is my text gren? |
| 09:29.24 | LucianSolaris | &green |
| 09:29.30 | LucianSolaris | 9**green? |
| 09:29.32 | Balsamic_Chicken | wifi-radar gui is ok for me |
| 09:29.42 | Balsamic_Chicken | but i haven't used knetworkmanager before |
| 09:29.44 | Balsamic_Chicken | let me try it |
| 09:29.49 | LucianSolaris | 9but who here knows enough about kde to get me working with knetworkmanager? |
| 09:29.51 | Balsamic_Chicken | &green huh |
| 09:29.56 | Tm_T | Hrr. |
| 09:29.57 | mark_alec | LucianSolaris: fix it up, |
| 09:30.05 | Balsamic_Chicken | **green |
| 09:30.06 | mark_alec | before i go blind |
| 09:30.06 | pinotree | LucianSolaris: can you disable the green please? |
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| 09:30.16 | Balsamic_Chicken | *goes to a corner and cries* no green for me lol |
| 09:30.35 | LucianSolaris | test |
| 09:30.38 | pinotree | fine |
| 09:30.48 | Balsamic_Chicken | how do u do green, i might wanna try blue or other color |
| 09:30.54 | LucianSolaris | i'm using kopete |
| 09:30.58 | Balsamic_Chicken | o |
| 09:31.07 | Balsamic_Chicken | do u mean u type in kopete and then post in here? |
| 09:31.17 | LucianSolaris | no, kopete for my irc client |
| 09:31.24 | Balsamic_Chicken | kopete could do that? didn't know |
| 09:31.27 | LucianSolaris | yep |
| 09:31.28 | Balsamic_Chicken | hmm, how do u enable it |
| 09:31.35 | LucianSolaris | accounts section of your options |
| 09:32.05 | Balsamic_Chicken | btw do u use webcam with kopete, i can't get it to work, if u do use webcam in kopete, under configuration for webcam, do u have something for the category:standard |
| 09:32.08 | Balsamic_Chicken | k |
| 09:32.53 | LucianSolaris | now, i'm not suppost to be the helper, i'm the one in need, i need either: knetworkmanager to see my eth0 wifi OR a better, more extensive, wifi scanner/viewer/manager (think netstumbler with management capabilities) that doesn't look like gnome ass |
| 09:33.08 | Balsamic_Chicken | lol, i was just putting it out there for everyone =) |
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| 09:35.04 | LucianSolaris | anyone? |
| 09:36.22 | LucianSolaris | now, i need either: knetworkmanager to see my eth0 wifi OR a better, more extensive, wifi scanner/viewer/manager (think netstumbler with management capabilities) that doesn't look like gnome ass |
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| 09:42.37 | Balsamic_Chicken | 2 hrs till movie finish downloading, so slllow |
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| 10:01.59 | eilker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:03.18 | pinotree | eilker: ftp://user@site in konqueror? |
| 10:03.20 | Jucato | Konqueror? |
| 10:03.38 | Jucato | kftpgrabber? |
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| 10:06.22 | pinotree | good morning PhilRod |
| 10:06.47 | Jucato | PhilRod!!! |
| 10:06.57 | Tm_T | Hi kids. |
| 10:07.09 | Jucato | hi grandpa! |
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| 10:11.10 | eilker | thank you |
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| 10:21.37 | TheGateKeeper | what's the best channel to ask about Qt dev questions? |
| 10:21.53 | PhilRod | TheGateKeeper: #qt I guess |
| 10:22.07 | PhilRod | hiya pinotree, Tm_T |
| 10:22.19 | TheGateKeeper | ok thanx PhilRod |
| 10:22.21 | bluestorm | hmm |
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| 10:22.30 | bluestorm | seems KDE4 has been slashdotted again |
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| 10:25.16 | EdLin | GraveDigger: at least it isn't os "the Linux desktop is dead" news.com |
| 10:25.58 | GraveDigger | true |
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| 10:36.21 | Dark_Apostrophe | Where can I configure the background in Konq? |
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| 10:36.23 | kostja | hello! |
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| 10:36.55 | PhilRod | hi kostja |
| 10:37.02 | PhilRod | Dark_Apostrophe: the view menu, I think |
| 10:37.17 | Dark_Apostrophe | PhilRod: Thanks |
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| 10:37.23 | kostja | it is possible to "browse" with konqueror audio cd (you need kioslave I think). Now I've got a CD witj Data und Audio. How can I browse through the audio tracks? |
| 10:37.54 | kostja | When I open it with system:///media/hdc I get the data |
| 10:39.16 | PhilRod | kostja: do you see the audio tracks if you go to audiocd:/ in konqueror? |
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| 10:40.03 | kostja | PhilRod: so do I. Thank you! |
| 10:41.22 | kostja | ;-) |
| 10:41.31 | kostja | bye, bye |
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| 10:50.07 | olegfink | Sho_: should ctcp queries be uppercase? |
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| 10:58.21 | B4Sh | ciao |
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| 11:02.57 | B4Sh | hi |
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| 11:05.43 | PhilRod | anyone know how to get konq to open tar.gz files using tar:/ when I left click them? If I do "open in new window/tab" it works, but on left click, it asks what to open it with |
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| 11:09.14 | backtick | hi all, do I export a modified color theme from the control center to share it with other users? |
| 11:10.07 | PhilRod | click on "save scheme" |
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| 11:15.21 | backtick | PhilRod: it just prompts me for a name, not for a location to save the theme as an import-able file |
| 11:16.29 | tomeq | witam wszystkich ziomkow :) |
| 11:17.06 | PhilRod | backtick: ah, I see |
| 11:19.52 | PhilRod | backtick: I can't see offhand how to do it, sorry |
| 11:20.31 | backtick | PhilRod: np, thanks anyway |
| 11:22.26 | pinotree | tomeq: english, please |
| 11:22.59 | backtick | I found it in .kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes/ |
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| 11:26.13 | tomeq | there's always so big traffic ? |
| 11:26.34 | tomeq | hundred useres and one message per minute |
| 11:26.35 | tomeq | ... |
| 11:27.10 | Jucato | welcome to the world of FOSS IRC |
| 11:27.49 | tomeq | :) |
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| 11:31.49 | tomeq | is there some irc nets where peoples talk a bit more ... ? |
| 11:33.14 | Cicci0 | would be wonderful :) |
| 11:33.38 | annma | tomeq: it's Sunday |
| 11:33.45 | annma | people have real lives |
| 11:34.06 | annma | and KDE is so good there's no questions about it |
| 11:34.11 | fosterfeld | tomeq: it rather depends on the channel than on the net. this channel is more used for support, not for chit-chat (which doesn't mean the latter doesn't happen - but sunday noon (CET) isn't the best time for high activity here ;-) |
| 11:34.11 | Cicci0 | I'm just waking up........ :))))))))))) |
| 11:34.15 | Jucato | also, this is a support channel, not a social channel. I'm sure DALnet or Undernet have those kinds of channel |
| 11:35.20 | Cicci0 | oh well... just a lot of people here now... :) I've a problem with kfax and filed even a bug... here it is: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139705 |
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| 11:35.30 | Cicci0 | anyone has similar problems with kfax? |
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| 11:36.26 | tomeq | ok, so i'll share with my problem |
| 11:36.44 | annma | yes, just tell your question |
| 11:36.45 | tomeq | where i can turno off all those nasty services in kde ? |
| 11:36.53 | annma | in KControl |
| 11:37.01 | tomeq | like gconf-2, bonobo, bluetooth etc ... |
| 11:37.02 | annma | and they are not nasty obviously |
| 11:37.06 | annma | lol |
| 11:37.14 | tomeq | nasty - unused |
| 11:37.32 | annma | gconf-2 and bonobo obviously are NOT kde services |
| 11:37.41 | annma | distro? |
| 11:37.43 | tomeq | i know |
| 11:37.48 | tomeq | fedora 6 |
| 11:37.55 | annma | look in KControl |
| 11:37.57 | tomeq | but i'm using kde |
| 11:38.02 | tomeq | and evolution |
| 11:38.04 | annma | look in KControl |
| 11:38.21 | tomeq | evolution keep running those services |
| 11:38.23 | tomeq | ok |
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| 11:38.30 | tomeq | and one more quiestion |
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| 11:38.42 | Jucato | probably because evolution depends on those services |
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| 11:38.55 | Head | hi |
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| 11:39.01 | annma | yes, evolutionprobably need those |
| 11:39.03 | Jucato | annma: have fun! :) |
| 11:39.15 | tomeq | anyone have this bad feeling about linux when it comes to comparing speed of running firefox between linux and windows ? |
| 11:39.17 | annma | :) thanks |
| 11:39.30 | Jucato | tomeq: firefox isn't a KDE app... |
| 11:39.35 | annma | tomeq: feelings are not facts |
| 11:39.39 | tomeq | i know |
| 11:40.02 | Head | does anyone know how to switch off the spell checker in kde? |
| 11:40.04 | tomeq | but little off-topic won't harm anyone |
| 11:40.22 | tomeq | even konqueror run faster then firefox |
| 11:40.32 | tomeq | it's not only my opinion |
| 11:41.11 | Linux_Galore | Head: look on kcontrol |
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| 11:41.41 | Head | Linux_Galore: i did |
| 11:41.58 | Head | i can switch between hspell, aspell, etc. |
| 11:42.02 | Head | and select a language |
| 11:42.10 | Head | but there is no option to just switch it off |
| 11:42.47 | Linux_Galore | Head: its in the components section |
| 11:44.31 | Head | kcontrol > KDE Components > Spell Checker |
| 11:44.48 | Head | but how do i switch it off? |
| 11:45.38 | Jucato | I can only think of 2 possible ways: uninstall the spellchecking package/app or switch to a spellchecker that isn't installed |
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| 11:46.31 | Head | Jucato: yes, i switched to hebrew and it shuts up |
| 11:46.39 | Head | but there should be a proper way to do this |
| 11:46.56 | Head | or am i the only kde user who doesn't want spell checking? |
| 11:47.02 | Linux_Galore | Head: post a bug then, maybe they will fix it in kde4 |
| 11:47.03 | Jucato | :) |
| 11:47.17 | Linux_Galore | Head: pretty much |
| 11:47.18 | Head | ok |
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| 11:48.17 | Kim^J | Hey all. |
| 11:48.39 | Linux_Galore | Head: you have to understand, developers are wary about adding "off" or "function disable" features because people have a habit of turning thing on or off and forgetting how they did it |
| 11:48.52 | Linux_Galore | things* |
| 11:48.54 | Kim^J | Is there a program that displays what desktop I'm on? Like pager bit it just displays the name of that desktop I'm on. |
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| 11:49.42 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: yeah the desktop preview pager |
| 11:50.01 | Head | Linux_Galore: the strange thing is: when i compose a new mail in KMail... |
| 11:50.06 | Kim^J | well... that shows all desktop. |
| 11:50.11 | Head | the status bar says: 'spell checker: on' |
| 11:50.19 | Kim^J | I just want a program that shows this: Desktop 1 |
| 11:50.46 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: hmm like kompose |
| 11:51.02 | Kim^J | Hmm That's KDE Expos right? |
| 11:51.09 | Linux_Galore | yes |
| 11:51.24 | Kim^J | No. Just a program in the panel that shows Desktop 1/2/34/etc. |
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| 11:51.50 | Jucato | Head: it's on, but using an uninstalled spellchecker... so it won't work |
| 11:51.56 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: if you mouse over the pager it shows whats on that desktop |
| 11:52.09 | Head | Jucato: but why the information in the status bar? |
| 11:52.17 | Head | if it can't be switched off? |
| 11:52.27 | Jucato | Kim^J: the Desktop Preview and Pager can show you the name/number of all your virtual desktops |
| 11:52.50 | Jucato | er nvm... |
| 11:52.53 | Kim^J | Jucato: Yes. I know. I just want to show that Desktop I'm on. Not all. |
| 11:53.10 | Jucato | Head: auto spell check can be swichted off per app, afaik |
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| 11:53.49 | Head | but where? |
| 11:54.38 | Jucato | not sure where in kmail. but in Kopete and Konversation, for example, you can right-click on the text entry box and uncheck auto spell check |
| 11:55.11 | Head | ah |
| 11:55.14 | Head | nice |
| 11:55.35 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: the whole method of how kde displays the desktop is changing in kde 4 |
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| 11:56.03 | Kim^J | Linux_Galore: Ah ok. |
| 11:56.21 | Kim^J | Then I'll wait. Won't give up KDE for another three four years. :D |
| 11:56.33 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: there are allot of limitations in qt3 that is being removed in qt4 |
| 11:56.48 | Kim^J | Ok ok. :) |
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| 11:57.27 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: few more months and you should see kde4 |
| 11:57.42 | Kim^J | Hmm... Hopefully Slack 12 then... |
| 11:57.50 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: its a big project shifting everything over |
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| 11:57.54 | Head | Linux_Galore: i found out that there is already a bug report for this |
| 11:57.55 | Head | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=125391 |
| 11:58.00 | Head | i just voted |
| 11:58.14 | Linux_Galore | Head: good |
| 11:58.36 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: kicker wont exist in kde4 |
| 11:58.49 | Kim^J | Ok. |
| 11:58.54 | Linux_Galore | Kim^J: it will work more like a docker in osx |
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| 11:59.05 | Jucato | Linux_Galore: absolutely sure on that? |
| 11:59.59 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: well the guy who makes the OSX docker (forgot its name) for kde 3 has stopped and is working on the new kicker replacement last I heard |
| 12:00.18 | Kim^J | kxdocker? |
| 12:00.30 | Jucato | er Linux_Galore, he's working on his own project |
| 12:00.30 | Kim^J | Hmm... He better work damn hard then. |
| 12:00.51 | Jucato | porting kxdocker to KDE4, doesn't mean it will be the default in KDE 4 |
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| 12:01.46 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: though he was shifting it to kde4 |
| 12:01.51 | Linux_Galore | thought* |
| 12:02.13 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: so whats replacing kicker |
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| 12:02.26 | Jucato | shifting an app to Qt 4/KDE 4 code doesn't mean it will be part of the official KDE 4.x stuff |
| 12:02.31 | Jucato | Linux_Galore: for now, nothing yet |
| 12:02.54 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: so they have decided to stick with kicker even though it rubbish |
| 12:02.58 | Linux_Galore | its* |
| 12:03.22 | Jucato | no. I'm just saying that nothing has yet has been committed to svn that will eventually replace kicker |
| 12:03.30 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: aaah yeah, saw the novell menu thing in kde4 |
| 12:03.51 | Jucato | that's not kde 4 even... |
| 12:03.59 | Jucato | at least not officially yet, for now... |
| 12:04.00 | Head | Linux_Galore: the novell menu is alredy in suse 10.2 |
| 12:04.04 | Head | with kde 3.5.5 |
| 12:04.10 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: I know but I saw it in the demo images |
| 12:04.13 | Head | i'm using it |
| 12:04.17 | Head | it's not that bad |
| 12:04.22 | Jucato | yes, but it is not KDE 4 |
| 12:04.23 | Linux_Galore | Head: so am I |
| 12:04.58 | Jucato | and there has been no decision to replace the K Menu with kickoff |
| 12:05.07 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: they recently relleased some images of kde4 and it has kickoff |
| 12:05.10 | Linux_Galore | had* |
| 12:05.29 | olegfink | ah remembered one question |
| 12:05.37 | pinotree | Linux_Galore: that article is foobar regrding the kmenu |
| 12:05.39 | Jucato | Linux_Galore: I believe kickoff is in the playground module in Trunk |
| 12:05.54 | olegfink | how can I fully remove noatun from the face of my KDE? |
| 12:05.58 | Jucato | and *who* released *what* images of KDE 4? |
| 12:05.59 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: kickoff need a config UI too |
| 12:06.02 | Linux_Galore | needs* |
| 12:06.12 | pinotree | writing that kickoff is the sneak preview of kde4 is totally false |
| 12:06.20 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: asked the suse guys and they said its being worked on |
| 12:06.53 | Jucato | it's being worked on in KDE SVN Trunk, yes. it wil be part of the official KDE 4.x release, as the K Menu replacement, no. |
| 12:07.11 | McEnroe | Jucato: and as a alternative? |
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| 12:08.02 | Jucato | it already is an alternative, in KDE 3... so now you have K Menu, KBFX, and Kickoff |
| 12:08.24 | Linux_Galore | yeah, Ive got kickoff in kubuntu |
| 12:09.43 | McEnroe | Jucato: not on my gentoo... :'( |
| 12:10.13 | Linux_Galore | McEnroe: look in kde-apps.org Im sure someone made an ebuild for gentoo |
| 12:10.19 | McEnroe | but what about merging kickoff and kmenu? |
| 12:10.44 | pinotree | McEnroe: kickoff is another kmenu |
| 12:11.07 | Jucato | McEnroe: kickoff is sort of a 3rd-party KDE app |
| 12:11.13 | Linux_Galore | I like how kickoff has a search box for beagle |
| 12:11.22 | McEnroe | pinotree: is it a fork or a brach? |
| 12:11.31 | pinotree | neithoer of the two |
| 12:11.41 | pinotree | it is another implementation of a kde menu |
| 12:11.42 | McEnroe | completly new? |
| 12:11.47 | McEnroe | k |
| 12:12.34 | Head | lol |
| 12:12.36 | olegfink | hey anyone konversation aware here? |
| 12:12.43 | Kim^J | olegfink: Irssi. |
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| 12:12.58 | Linux_Galore | olegfink: Im using it |
| 12:13.00 | Jucato | olegfink: depends on being aware of what ;) |
| 12:13.02 | Head | Linux_Galore: did you realize that the suse cameleon in the kmenu button tracks the mouse cursor with its eyes? |
| 12:13.08 | olegfink | Kim^J: personally prefer weechat |
| 12:13.15 | Jucato | olegfink: there's also a #konversation if you're interested :) |
| 12:13.16 | stoned | hehe |
| 12:13.18 | stoned | wee chat |
| 12:13.20 | stoned | thas cute |
| 12:13.21 | Kim^J | olegfink: Use that then. :) |
| 12:13.44 | olegfink | Kim^J: I've found a bug, I'm not playing with ;) |
| 12:13.47 | Linux_Galore | Head: I dont have that, I just have a kubuntu logo there |
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| 12:14.15 | Head | ok |
| 12:15.47 | olegfink | Linux_Galore: try ctcp version request |
| 12:15.50 | Kim^J | olegfink: bugs.kde.org or something like that then. :) |
| 12:17.01 | Linux_Galore | olegfink: works fine |
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| 12:17.54 | olegfink | Linux_Galore: heh but weechat thinks that ctcp SHOULD be uppercase |
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| 12:18.46 | Linux_Galore | olegfink: well no issue here |
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| 12:19.18 | Linux_Galore | olegfink: if other clients want to be weird they are welcome |
| 12:19.39 | olegfink | Linux_Galore: eh ;) |
| 12:23.26 | Linux_Galore | hmm new Nokia N800 Linux tablet is now on sale ->http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS9981902594.html |
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| 12:27.38 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: gizmoproject works on it so you can have a wireless VoIP conversation |
| 12:28.04 | Jucato | yes, but it won't be able to call other phones that don't have VoIP, does it? |
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| 12:28.31 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: yes |
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| 12:29.02 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: you can dial dial out, VoIP doesnt mean you cant dial a normal pstn line |
| 12:29.06 | Jucato | and that is what I was talking about... this is the only nokia device that doesn't have phone capabilities... but heck.. it's an internet tablet anyway... |
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| 12:29.19 | Jucato | really? hm... |
| 12:29.28 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: the n800 has moced the mice so its more like a normal phone |
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| 12:29.34 | Linux_Galore | moved* |
| 12:29.44 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: most major companies now use VoIP |
| 12:29.59 | Jucato | really? |
| 12:30.09 | Jucato | maybe in the US |
| 12:30.10 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: even many phone companies use VoIP between each major node |
| 12:30.18 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: no all over the wrold |
| 12:30.27 | Linux_Galore | world* |
| 12:30.30 | Jucato | oh then we're definitely not part of the world |
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| 12:31.16 | Linux_Galore | Jucato: if you want to trunk a call over seas now you have to use a form og VoIP, your phone company converts it over |
| 12:31.23 | Linux_Galore | of* |
| 12:31.29 | vbgunz_ | currently the icons on the desktop show very little text... is there a way to show more text by default? |
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| 12:31.54 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you can define all that |
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| 12:32.48 | Jucato | wb annma! |
| 12:33.12 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I've been playing with KDE for a while and could not find such an option. I found something under Konqueror about icons, sizing, length of text, heigh and similar but it doesn't effect the desktop... Can you tell me where to look please? |
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| 12:35.39 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: right click on the desktop |
| 12:35.53 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: configure desktop |
| 12:36.21 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: in the "background section" click on advanced to the far right |
| 12:37.03 | vbgunz_ | wow, I don't remember missing that... I always used kcontrol though and never bothered to do it like this. It works! |
| 12:37.20 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: thank you very much! |
| 12:37.56 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: changing the font also show more detail too |
| 12:38.02 | Linux_Galore | shows* |
| 12:38.28 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: yeah, i did that and got a few extra characters in... I do not think this screen is in kcontrol |
| 12:38.37 | vbgunz_ | I am looking for it and again, maybe I am missing it |
| 12:38.46 | McEnroe | but a least a button "prefer koffice over ooo" |
| 12:38.51 | vbgunz_ | oh, it is in background not under desktop |
| 12:39.06 | vbgunz_ | under appearance and themes... I guess that will suffice :) |
| 12:39.24 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: thank you again, was beginning to worry about it |
| 12:40.15 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: yeah, you would'nt beleive it but there are more options but there hidden to stop people stuffing them up |
| 12:41.42 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=51170&PHPSESSID=345a86a99f975ff25d4700b5082837a7 |
| 12:41.49 | vbgunz_ | I found the KDE config *rc folder *but* still haven't applied any useful tweaks ;) |
| 12:42.18 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: someone has started a KDE tweak project |
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| 12:44.07 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: heh, that'll be cool, probably be cooler if every app made created an advanced no gui interface file to used with it... that would rock :) |
| 12:44.40 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: they do |
| 12:44.57 | vbgunz_ | one thing I don't like much about the icons on the desktop is the spacing, or padding between them all, they're far too spread out :O |
| 12:45.14 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I looked in the rc* folder and tried to make some tweaks to Konqueror, always failed :( |
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| 12:46.10 | vbgunz_ | basically, when Konqueror launches as a web browser first, then inside it, try to switch to file managing, the view is always reset to icons... I pulled my hair out trying to make it stick to tree view wether for any mode... heh, aint gonna happen |
| 12:46.24 | vbgunz_ | defeated but all good, I will return ;) |
| 12:46.30 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: good example is dcop amarok player nowPlaying |
| 12:47.05 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: aah that can be set |
| 12:47.11 | vbgunz_ | I heard a lot about dcop, still haven't really looked into it |
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| 12:47.50 | gilan | hi |
| 12:47.57 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: no way can that Konqueror view be set... I have it set to tree view when launching it as a file manager *but* if it is a browser first, then trying to manage files, the view is destroyed and back to icons :( |
| 12:48.10 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: it can |
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| 12:48.22 | gilan | how to change "kde-panel" font color |
| 12:48.27 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: in fact it can "all be customised" from the GUI |
| 12:48.29 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: please tell me how, I'll bake you a cake |
| 12:48.41 | vbgunz_ | no way I missed that too :O |
| 12:49.03 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: set how you prefere the manager to look first |
| 12:49.09 | vbgunz_ | no way >:| |
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| 12:49.41 | vbgunz_ | I have my file manager looking perfect... none of those settings though stick to the web browsing instance of Konqueror |
| 12:50.05 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: top right right right click Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
| 12:50.09 | vbgunz_ | I am on Kubuntu 6.10, I am curious if they could have botched it though I hope not |
| 12:50.18 | gilan | Linux_Galore: how to change "kde-panel" font color |
| 12:50.25 | vbgunz_ | heh, no way |
| 12:50.34 | vbgunz_ | ok, I'll try that, I cannot believe it though |
| 12:51.06 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: its not in the menu's as such you have to click on the top window border |
| 12:51.16 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I already have special window settings applied to Konqueror, to remember position and size |
| 12:51.18 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: far left sorry |
| 12:51.26 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: i am there |
| 12:51.32 | Linux_Galore | right click |
| 12:51.41 | Linux_Galore | should see a menu with Advanced |
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| 12:52.18 | vbgunz_ | the window icon > advanced > special window settings |
| 12:52.28 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: yep |
| 12:52.33 | vbgunz_ | I am there, looking at window specific settings |
| 12:52.43 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you can even define how the application will view |
| 12:52.47 | vbgunz_ | I already use it on Konqueror to remember position and size |
| 12:52.56 | vbgunz_ | no frigging way |
| 12:53.00 | vbgunz_ | I must have missed that |
| 12:53.13 | vbgunz_ | you gonna have me go on a wild goose chase :P |
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| 12:53.59 | vbgunz_ | heh, you messing with me ;) |
| 12:54.12 | vbgunz_ | I don't see that option... |
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| 12:55.04 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: just klick on ok and it will always open the window in the form you have it set now |
| 12:55.09 | Linux_Galore | click* |
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| 12:56.22 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: nah, it'll never work, I am sure the view is hard coded into Konqueror somehow |
| 12:56.31 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: nope |
| 12:56.42 | vbgunz_ | I mean, I checked a lot of configs and couldn't find a way to tweak it |
| 12:58.06 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: in the geometry section enable remember in size |
| 12:58.18 | vbgunz_ | Konqueror takes on several modes so to say. if I launch it as a file manager *it* opens and views just fine... if I close the file manager and open up the web browser, it too opens up just fine in the way I set up the browser profile *but* if while web browsing, I open a folder, the view is hard-coded or stubborn enough to switch on me and go back to icon view... |
| 12:58.28 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you can even define the default to the right of the size |
| 12:59.03 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: I just did it and it remembered my size change |
| 12:59.04 | vbgunz_ | I am talking about Konquerors viewsL icons, list, tree, etc |
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| 12:59.30 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: yes, thats set when you close the window |
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| 13:02.13 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: the icone stuff is set in Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Appearance |
| 13:02.18 | vbgunz_ | no, heh, not that, Konqueror behaves just fine in that regard. I am talking about the folder view in the main pane... I prefer tree view. I get it "tree view" when I launch Konqueror as a file manager *but* if while web browsing I launch a folder that opens inside the web browser, the view mode is changed to "icon view"... this is what I am trying to change... I cannot find a way to change it |
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| 13:03.33 | Jucato | view a directory in the web manager profile, set it to the view type you want, and save the profile? |
| 13:05.08 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: yeah sorry jucato is right, set it how you want then click on Settings -> Save View Porfile |
| 13:05.10 | vbgunz_ | Jucato: I've done it many many times... as I am trying to say. When I launch Konqueror --profile filemanagement, I get the Tree view mode... now, I close it. I open konqueror --profile webbrowsing and then inside the web browser, hit F9, select home, when the main view changes to show my folders, it is in icon mode |
| 13:05.15 | Linux_Galore | Profile* |
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| 13:06.09 | Jucato | vbgunz_: I'm guessing you saved the tree view in file management profile only? |
| 13:06.40 | vbgunz_ | Jucato: I do not think there is a way to save the view mode for file manager inside Konqueror the web browser :( |
| 13:06.56 | Jucato | what do you mean? |
| 13:07.04 | vbgunz_ | one sec |
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| 13:07.16 | crudball | hi |
| 13:07.20 | Jucato | launch Konqueror in web browser mode, webbrowsing profile, then switch to viewing a directory |
| 13:07.28 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: saves here |
| 13:07.31 | vbgunz_ | yeah, I've done that |
| 13:07.38 | crudball | i have a question about compiling kdebase |
| 13:07.38 | vbgunz_ | man :O |
| 13:07.50 | Jucato | Konqueror doesn't automatically change to a filemanagement profile when you view a directory in a webbrowsing profile window |
| 13:08.00 | crudball | when its configuring, it gets to the bottom and gives me |
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| 13:08.23 | alsuren | crudball: from svn or just kde3.5.5? |
| 13:08.24 | vbgunz_ | view mode in the web browser is either KHTML or KATE, no tree view, etc... |
| 13:08.31 | crudball | kde 3.5.5 |
| 13:08.40 | crudball | configure: error: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmkmf (imake) failed. |
| 13:08.43 | crudball | Make sure you have all necessary X development packages installed. |
| 13:08.44 | crudball | On some systems a missing /lib/cpp symlink is at fault. |
| 13:09.04 | crudball | but /usr/X11R6/bin/xmkmf exists :S |
| 13:10.01 | alsuren | crudball: ls -dl /lib/cpp |
| 13:10.27 | crudball | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 25 Nov 28 18:43 /lib/cpp -> /etc/alternatives/lib_cpp* |
| 13:10.30 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: aaah ok, when you open konqueror as a "web browser" its nots the same as a "file manager startup" |
| 13:10.37 | vbgunz_ | heh, no joke, Kubuntu botched it cause if you guys say it is supposed to work, well, maybe not in Kubuntu... the furthest I can get, is to open a file management tab, change the view to tree mode, also open a web browsing tab and set the homepage... now I save the webbrowsing profile... when I launch Konqueror again (web browser), my file tab shows a tree view... awesome, *but* when I click F9 to get the side pane and click on any folder, t |
| 13:11.11 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: you see what I see now? |
| 13:11.15 | kubuntian | guys, is it normal that animations in powerpoint slides (written by Microsoft powerpoint ) don't work in openoffice? |
| 13:11.40 | Desintegr | OpenOffice channel ? |
| 13:11.42 | Jucato | kubuntian: um... openoffice or koffice? |
| 13:11.51 | kubuntian | openoffice |
| 13:11.55 | Jucato | kubuntian: also ask in #kubuntu |
| 13:12.09 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: no thats correct, when you actually start konqueror tis doesnt just run it, if you look carefully it has a few options flagged in the startup command |
| 13:12.16 | crudball | ok so what now? |
| 13:12.18 | Linux_Galore | it* |
| 13:12.23 | crudball | i am planning to switch from gnome |
| 13:12.38 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: thats the setting i do not see in any gui... thats the setting I've been looking for in the config *rc directory... I cannot find it and when I think I did find it and make a change even with Konqueror completely closed out, it does not stick to tree view, ever :( this is why I think it could be hard coded |
| 13:13.01 | Jucato | crudball: no way for you to install KDE without compiling? |
| 13:13.04 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: ok, how do I change the startup commands on a global scale? |
| 13:13.12 | crudball | erm |
| 13:13.15 | crudball | i am on mandriva |
| 13:13.19 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you dont |
| 13:13.19 | vbgunz_ | what would you recommend? |
| 13:13.24 | crudball | i will check urpmi |
| 13:13.28 | vbgunz_ | ahh :O |
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| 13:13.38 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: if you want konqeuror to be a file manager you open a "file" |
| 13:13.52 | deus | What are auto for authentication for kmail? |
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| 13:13.55 | Jucato | crudball: mandriva has KDE packages.. in fact, shouldn't KDE be the default in the first place? |
| 13:14.12 | crudball | yeah but its old |
| 13:14.16 | crudball | and i wanna update |
| 13:14.17 | crudball | it |
| 13:14.19 | crudball | as im on 2006 |
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| 13:14.34 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: type this kfmclient openProfile filemanagement ~/ at the command line, thats starts konqueror as a file manager |
| 13:15.06 | Jucato | crudball: ah... not really sure how Mandriva's packaging works... but they should have KDE packages... |
| 13:15.07 | crudball | yup |
| 13:15.07 | Jucato | and maybe some trusted 3rd-party repos have an updated KDE 3.5.5 |
| 13:15.07 | crudball | just did urpmi kdebase but it wants to install 3.4.2 |
| 13:15.10 | crudball | dunno how old that is |
| 13:15.17 | crudball | so im updating urpmi to see |
| 13:15.17 | Jucato | *very* old :) |
| 13:15.18 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: not if I start konqueror as a web browser I would use konqueror --profile webbrowsing |
| 13:15.22 | Jucato | 3.5.5 is the latest |
| 13:15.28 | crudball | thought so *sighs* |
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| 13:15.44 | crudball | nop |
| 13:15.46 | crudball | e |
| 13:15.47 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: notice they are "very" different startup commands |
| 13:15.48 | crudball | *nope |
| 13:15.50 | crudball | still 3.4.2 |
| 13:16.04 | Linux_Galore | s/not/now |
| 13:16.07 | crudball | i suppose i could try the suse kde repo? |
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| 13:16.29 | Jucato | er.. not sure... |
| 13:17.09 | crudball | as there isnt many rpm repos |
| 13:17.12 | crudball | most are debs |
| 13:17.30 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: your problem is your starting konqueror in "web browser mode" then wondering why its not so flash as a file browser, basically because its been told to be a "web browser" not a "file browser" |
| 13:18.22 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I tried to do it in reverse and get the same effect... anyway to change the global view from icon to tree view no matter what profile? it aint never gonna work for me :( |
| 13:18.46 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: stop starting konqueror in web browser mode, your problem will be fixed |
| 13:19.31 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: watch this... launch your file manager... looking at your files? great, enter google.com in the address bar... this is your file manager right? ok, enter / in the address bar and hit enter |
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| 13:20.05 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: right click on the konqueror icon, click on "Configure Konqueror Button" then go to the "Application" tab |
| 13:20.18 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: look at the "start" command |
| 13:20.18 | vbgunz_ | it don't matter from what instance I launch a web page... the second a web page hits the browser/manager, the view is reset back to icon view for all files here on out :*( |
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| 13:20.51 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: your not listening, konqueror is "two animals" not one |
| 13:21.10 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: sorry, continue, my apologies |
| 13:21.33 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: right click on the konqueror icon, click on "Configure Konqueror Button" then go to the "Application" tab |
| 13:21.46 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: I will show you why its not working |
| 13:21.49 | vbgunz_ | ok done |
| 13:22.05 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: look at the "start" command |
| 13:22.18 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: actually read what the command says |
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| 13:22.31 | vbgunz_ | I saw that |
| 13:22.42 | vbgunz_ | did you do what I said? |
| 13:22.45 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you will notice its telling Konqueror to be a "web browser" and not to be anything else |
| 13:23.19 | crudball | anyone know a solution to my problem apart from going to binaries? |
| 13:23.24 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: the startup for "file browser" and "web browser" are totally different |
| 13:23.35 | McEnroe | i enable the osx style menubar. but there is a strip (actually a gradient). how i remove it? |
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| 13:24.15 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: your trying to configure the "file browser options" when its in "web browser mode" it wont work |
| 13:24.56 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: click on a folder then try and do it, yes Ive tested it and it saves tree view |
| 13:25.43 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: please, try this, I must have a bug, I am 100% sure. 1. "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement", 2. enter "httP://google.com" 3. enter "/" ... did your view get reset back to icon view in your file manager? |
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| 13:26.08 | vbgunz_ | can anyone reproduce this? |
| 13:26.38 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: nope stayed |
| 13:26.49 | vbgunz_ | my Konqueror is broken |
| 13:26.54 | vbgunz_ | :( |
| 13:27.41 | vbgunz_ | I was really hoping someone could see what I am saying... it sucks to be the only dude with the problem |
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| 13:28.06 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: aaah no, thats correct, if you put a URL into the top bar it flips into "browser mode" it will act like a web browser so it doesnt show files like a file browser |
| 13:28.32 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: as i said "two animals in one" but not both |
| 13:28.40 | vbgunz_ | heh |
| 13:29.11 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: when you access files on the web it defaults to a set view mode |
| 13:29.48 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you have to flip it back to file mode with the view menu or create a shortcut |
| 13:29.52 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: yeah but even if I close all web pages out and go back to the the first view, the view mode has already been reset :( |
| 13:30.18 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: heh, I tried setting a shortcut for view mode... I could not find it... no such option :( |
| 13:30.39 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: so did you open it in file mode though. dont click on the konqueror icon |
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| 13:30.45 | vbgunz_ | I owuld have made one of the F keys it but cannot set a short cut so I always have to go back to reset by hand |
| 13:30.59 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: the konqueror icons sets it in web mode by default |
| 13:31.09 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: yes, exactly that, I tried a bunch of things, once a web page is open, the view mode is reset :( |
| 13:31.27 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I know, I always have a console open and I launched it from there |
| 13:31.36 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: no if I click on my home folder on my desktop it goes back to my saved setting |
| 13:31.38 | vbgunz_ | this is that secret setting I am looking for |
| 13:31.51 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: in this case "tree view" |
| 13:32.21 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: how do you open your home folder |
| 13:33.28 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: Ive got an idea |
| 13:33.49 | vbgunz_ | I have an applet that shows my home directory as a menu... this is how I usually launch it *but* if I "killall konqueror" and then launch it either "konqueror --profile filemanagement" OR "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement", once I go to a webpage, using the filemanager the view is reset to icon view... |
| 13:34.21 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: thats correct because "web mode" is different |
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| 13:34.41 | expose | Hoe to disable the "popup was blocked" popup? I find it annoying... |
| 13:34.45 | expose | s/hoe/how |
| 13:34.47 | expose | oO |
| 13:35.13 | vbgunz_ | yeah, but if I middle click a directory in the left pane "navigation" so to open in a new tab, I still get the view reset problem :( |
| 13:35.48 | vbgunz_ | someone who prefers icon view will never pick up on this problem but if you like something other than icon view, you're out of luck :P |
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| 13:36.29 | Linux_Galore | expose: open Konqueror Settings -> Configure Konqueror -> Addblock Filters |
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| 13:38.35 | Linux_Galore | expose: what I do is grab the Filterset.g text file that they use with the addblocker in firefox and import it into Konqueror, that fixes it all for me |
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| 13:38.54 | vbgunz_ | see, talking about secret settings and tweaks got me thinking, the setting for the default view has got to be in a file somewhere... as I am looking for it and making changes to experiment, I never see a difference... so, got me thinking, Konqueror must have the view hard-coded and it uses this hard-coded value to set the view in web browsing mode... I would consider this a bug *but* I'd hate to make such an assumption when maybe in some cr |
| 13:38.54 | vbgunz_ | te icon view :( |
| 13:39.22 | vbgunz_ | in any mode... |
| 13:39.29 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: I can change it no problem |
| 13:40.02 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: you cant change the default web mode" because of "web standards" |
| 13:40.19 | vbgunz_ | :O |
| 13:40.38 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: if you change that around all your web pages would look like crap |
| 13:41.14 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: as i keep telling you, web ,mode and file mode are not the same |
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| 13:42.10 | expose | Linux_Galore: thanks. |
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| 13:43.31 | vbgunz_ | this is unfair. it isn't fair, my view mode is reset because of some crazy standard that has got nothing to do with my file manager... in a sense, it is like a cruel joke :( |
| 13:43.38 | Linux_Galore | expose: you can import filter lists too from the web, you can google for them |
| 13:44.17 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: no, its because if you dont do that when it tries to work with remote hosts things would break |
| 13:45.06 | expose | Linux_Galore: i cant find that firefox filter file...hmmm. |
| 13:45.07 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I am not trying to connect to a remote host ;) |
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| 13:46.03 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: try saving the profile as "web" |
| 13:46.24 | Linux_Galore | expose: let me get you the link |
| 13:46.26 | expose | ah... blocklist.xml.... |
| 13:46.33 | expose | Linux_Galore: think i just got it |
| 13:46.43 | Linux_Galore | expose: no that wont work you need a text file |
| 13:47.07 | expose | hmm |
| 13:47.12 | Jucato | annma: can you ping me back later, when you're not so busy anymore? :) |
| 13:47.24 | annma | I'm OK now |
| 13:47.30 | annma | not busy |
| 13:47.37 | Linux_Galore | expose: http://www.pierceive.com/ |
| 13:47.50 | Jucato | annma: (you were having a wonderful conversation in #k-devel :) ) |
| 13:47.54 | expose | thank you |
| 13:47.56 | annma | lol |
| 13:48.21 | cuco | annma: ping |
| 13:48.25 | Linux_Galore | expose: just put this in the addblock section http://www.pierceive.com/filtersetg/2006-12-18b.txt |
| 13:48.26 | annma | hi cuco |
| 13:48.29 | annma | pong |
| 13:49.03 | Jucato | annma: um, you compile your stable KDE from branch right? so you have at least 3 builds? stable KDE from branch, a KDE branch for testing patches, and a KDE from trunk? |
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| 13:49.13 | annma | just 2 |
| 13:49.14 | expose | Linux_Galore: i thought you just had a typo when you wrote "filterset.g" and just thought of filterset and thus imagined searching for it on the web to be quite hard |
| 13:49.20 | cuco | hi annma, i was talking yesterday with some guy on #kde-www about having a wiki for my site. as far as i understand, this is possible. |
| 13:49.24 | annma | stable KDE for using and testing |
| 13:49.32 | annma | cuco: is it? |
| 13:49.47 | annma | cuco: your site is maybe not a kde one?* |
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| 13:49.53 | annma | is it a kde server? |
| 13:50.01 | cuco | annma: http://il.kde.org |
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| 13:50.08 | annma | cuco: is it a kde server? |
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| 13:50.20 | cuco | annma: yes, it's a subdomain on kde.org |
| 13:50.22 | Linux_Galore | expose: I just opened firefox and there is a link for the home page in the plugin details |
| 13:50.27 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: the only work around for the moment is to open a web browser instance with a file management tab set to tree view. if I want to use the file manager, I'll just need to switch to the file management tab.. the view seems to stick then |
| 13:50.28 | annma | subdomain but server? |
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| 13:51.01 | annma | Jucato: I have some svn conflicts here and there with testing though |
| 13:51.03 | cuco | annma: i assume so, i am not even sure who did it for me :) (it was kde.org/il a few months ago) |
| 13:51.14 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: have you tried saving the profile when in "web mode" as "web mode" |
| 13:51.19 | annma | cuco: then you're lucky if you get a wiki |
| 13:51.30 | cuco | annma: how come? |
| 13:51.31 | annma | cuco: I asked one for edu.kde.org and never got it |
| 13:51.42 | annma | lol |
| 13:52.05 | cuco | annma: amarok.kde.org uses one. others use it as well. |
| 13:52.17 | expose | Linux_Galore: dont have a plugin installed for ff that does adblocking :-) |
| 13:52.19 | annma | amarok is not a kde server |
| 13:52.32 | annma | private server that's why they need founds |
| 13:52.44 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: yes |
| 13:53.03 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I am looking at the faqs now on the site |
| 13:53.09 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: yeah, when it flips into web mode it stays there unless you flip it back |
| 13:53.29 | annma | cuco: can i ask who told you it's ok? |
| 13:53.53 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: heh, that sucks... Konqueror should know when I am opening a folder... when it sees this, it should flip back to my file manager settings... am looking at the faqs, I might be surprised |
| 13:53.56 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: there is no tree view for the web, hmm |
| 13:54.02 | cuco | annma: you can, that does not mean i can tell you ... short memory.... logs are @home... you know... |
| 13:54.14 | annma | ;) |
| 13:54.16 | annma | ok |
| 13:54.42 | annma | cuco: I'll see when it's done (like Thomas in the Gospel) |
| 13:54.52 | annma | I'll believe when I see |
| 13:54.53 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: I only use konqueror for file browsing and forefox for web stuff so I dont have this issue |
| 13:54.59 | Linux_Galore | firefox* |
| 13:55.01 | cuco | i hope konversation has logs enabled by default on kubuntu |
| 13:55.19 | Jucato | annma: ah so you test patches on the stable KDE you use for everyday regular use? hm.. conflicts? /me is now not sure how to proceed... |
| 13:55.23 | Jucato | cuco: I think they are |
| 13:55.29 | Jucato | cuco: thanks :) |
| 13:55.43 | vbgunz_ | Linux_Galore: I am thinking about doing the same thing... sucks though as I would like to use Konqueror as both |
| 13:55.46 | annma | Jucato: yes |
| 13:56.06 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: konqueror is so so when it comes to web pages |
| 13:56.20 | annma | conflicts mean the person who commit the files sometimes change them |
| 13:56.27 | Linux_Galore | vbgunz_: most sites are ok but now and again you hit one that totally sux |
| 13:56.28 | annma | svn is not very good at merging |
| 13:56.40 | Jucato | annma: oh I see... I'm now thinking if whether I should build 2 or 3 KDE's (one will be trunk) |
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| 13:56.49 | annma | cuco: don't refeer to me in kde-www |
| 13:57.06 | cuco | annma: ok |
| 13:57.08 | annma | I already pested them enough |
| 13:57.22 | cuco | excuse me...? wtf? |
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| 13:57.38 | cuco | are you trying to do your work for kde, you should not be saying those things |
| 13:57.45 | zerby | hello i need some help.... |
| 13:57.49 | Jucato | ?? |
| 13:57.58 | cuco | those stupid fights are making problems in debian, no need to have that shit on kde as well |
| 13:58.00 | zerby | kmfclient, krusader, ark (gwenview?) dont want to start up (or just after 5 or 10 minutes) |
| 13:58.16 | cuco | zerby: hostname problems...? |
| 13:58.28 | zerby | meaning cuco ?? |
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| 13:59.23 | cuco | zerby: some programs misbehave when you have network problems. next stage is to "strace -f kwrite" or something, to see whats the problem |
| 13:59.37 | zerby | ahhh ok |
| 13:59.43 | zerby | now that s possible yes |
| 13:59.51 | zerby | tx |
| 13:59.56 | zerby | tx for the command too |
| 14:01.01 | Jucato | annma: hm.. okay.... I'm going to really take a plunge here. I'll be using KDE branch :) |
| 14:01.10 | cuco | zerby: i will give you my paypal account in private ;-) |
| 14:01.11 | annma | :) |
| 14:01.17 | zerby | lol cuco |
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| 14:11.41 | neoneurone | hi guys, how can I type japanese in Kiten ? |
| 14:14.02 | thiago | can you type japanese in any KDE application? |
| 14:14.47 | neoneurone | thiago, I don't think so. |
| 14:14.52 | Jucato | oh thiago's here |
| 14:15.54 | neoneurone | thiago, well I found it ... the program didn't install any doc :). It has a builtin Japanese typing system which I was looking for. It can be enabled by using Shift Space :) |
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| 14:16.27 | neoneurone | thank you anyway ^^ |
| 14:16.31 | zerby | cuco i returned to thank you, the networkprob was the kde prob |
| 14:16.37 | zerby | ive solved the netw prob |
| 14:16.42 | Sho_ | neoneurone: Other than that you're looking for skim |
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| 14:17.12 | neoneurone | Sho_, skim ? |
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| 14:17.43 | Sho_ | neoneurone: A KDE frontend to scim, the Smart Common Input Method - what allows you to type CJK languages in KDE apps |
| 14:17.47 | Jucato | KDE frontend to SCIM |
| 14:17.52 | Jucato | gah |
| 14:18.05 | Sho_ | neoneurone: http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=14597 |
| 14:18.49 | Jucato | thiago: we could use your comment on one of this Konqueror bugs: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=101346 |
| 14:18.57 | neoneurone | hehe great ! maybe I'll need it someday :) |
| 14:19.06 | Jucato | er.. I meant, we need your comment :) |
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| 14:19.39 | thiago | I'll take a look |
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| 14:20.13 | Jucato | thiago: thanks! :) |
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| 14:26.34 | thiago | Jucato: btw, http works just fine and puts less of a load on the server |
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| 14:27.12 | aarcane | I'm using XDMCP with kdm, where can I configure the display modes available to the X display? |
| 14:27.29 | Jucato | thiago: huh? um.. wasn't it about the devices kioslave? |
| 14:27.31 | thiago | the same way you'd configure if it were not XDMCP |
| 14:27.35 | thiago | Jucato: yes |
| 14:27.37 | Blissex | aarcane: what does that mean? |
| 14:27.46 | thiago | Jucato: that's why it affects only people who are upgrading from KDE 3.3 |
| 14:28.27 | Jucato | ah so what should we do about the bug then? |
| 14:28.37 | thiago | Jucato: close it as WONTFIX |
| 14:28.47 | aarcane | thiago, but I have both the server machine and the client configured almost identically, with 1280x960 set as the highest resolution available, but other resolutions listed in xorg.conf don't work. |
| 14:28.58 | thiago | Jucato: KDE 3.3 is now really old. Fixing it in 3.5.7 won't do any good. |
| 14:29.03 | aarcane | erm, I mean xorg.conf is almost entirely ignored |
| 14:29.15 | thiago | aarcane: it's not a problem of kdm or of XDMCP |
| 14:29.19 | Jucato | thiago: will you do that or ask someone else to close it? (don't know what comment to put though) |
| 14:29.21 | thiago | aarcane: configure your X correctly |
| 14:30.17 | aarcane | thiago, okay, and also, how do I configure kdm to not try to launch a local X display and only listen on xdmcp |
| 14:30.33 | thiago | aarcane: check kdmrc |
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| 14:31.09 | aarcane | thiago, I did, however, I am unsure which settings to change and how in kdmrc to do what I want. |
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| 14:31.18 | thiago | neither do I |
| 14:31.23 | thiago | but you're the one who wants it :-) |
| 14:31.36 | thiago | the config file is very well documented via comments |
| 14:31.37 | thiago | read them |
| 14:31.50 | aarcane | thiago, I have, but the matter is still unclear. |
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| 14:33.27 | thiago | there must be an entry that says how many servers to start |
| 14:33.30 | thiago | or how to start them |
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| 14:34.35 | aarcane | brb |
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| 14:36.08 | StevenR | how do I make kaudiocreator lookup cddb info correctly? it says "Unable to retrieve CDDB information." |
| 14:37.44 | crudball | erm ok i think i might have found the answe to my problem |
| 14:37.46 | crudball | should |
| 14:38.30 | crudball | the result of /usr/X11R6/bin/xmkmf |
| 14:38.33 | crudball | b |
| 14:38.36 | crudball | *be |
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| 14:38.44 | thiago | finish your sentence in one line, please |
| 14:38.51 | crudball | lol |
| 14:38.58 | StevenR | hmm. kscd won't look it up either |
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| 14:39.20 | thiago | StevenR: maybe your CD isn't on the database |
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| 14:40.48 | aarcane | thiago, I solved the modes problem. |
| 14:40.58 | StevenR | thiago: hadn't thought of that actually. it's a distinct possibility, given the cd set in question. thanks for the suggestion |
| 14:41.39 | crudball | should: /usr/X11R6/bin/xmkmf - come up with: |
| 14:41.40 | crudball | imake -DUseInstalled -I/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/config |
| 14:41.42 | crudball | Usage: sdl-config [--prefix[=DIR]] [--exec-prefix[=DIR]] [--version] [--cflags] [--libs] [--static-libs] |
| 14:41.52 | crudball | sorry about big gaps >_< |
| 14:41.57 | thiago | sdl-config? |
| 14:42.19 | crudball | yeah thats what i thought |
| 14:42.44 | crudball | its supposed to be imake ? |
| 14:43.46 | thiago | imake is a Makefile generator |
| 14:44.22 | crudball | i know, it shouldnt be sdl-config - which is most likely why it is failing in kdebase configure |
| 14:44.40 | thiago | yep |
| 14:44.46 | thiago | kdebase requires a working xmkmf |
| 14:44.47 | crudball | :S |
| 14:45.09 | crudball | thats kinda weird |
| 14:45.36 | thiago | your xmkmf? Yeah... |
| 14:46.40 | thiago | maybe it's your imake |
| 14:48.05 | crudball | ok so what do i do |
| 14:48.27 | crudball | ah |
| 14:49.04 | crudball | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Jan 7 14:12 /usr/X11R6/bin/imake -> ../../../usr/bin/multiarch-dispatch* |
| 14:51.09 | crudball | and /usr/bin/multiarch-dispatch is displaying the sdl-config bit |
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| 14:54.37 | thiago | I have no idea what multiarch-dispatch is |
| 14:54.43 | thiago | imake here is a binary |
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| 15:30.53 | fuzzy_ | can anybody help me with kxdocker |
| 15:31.00 | fuzzy_ | i've just emerged it |
| 15:31.18 | fuzzy_ | and i downloaded a background theme |
| 15:31.55 | fuzzy_ | liquid_blue |
| 15:32.21 | fuzzy_ | at the background theme path |
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| 15:32.58 | fuzzy_ | i chose the folder in which there are the images from the archive |
| 15:33.12 | fuzzy_ | now it still has a black stupid background |
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| 15:44.16 | aarcane | I'm using kdm with xdmcp on machine1 to run a server to which machine2 connects via X -query machine1. how can I configure machine{1,2} so that any USB disk drive inserted in machine2 is accessible to the user logged in? |
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| 15:47.27 | Jucato | How do I backup and restoare my e-mail from kmail in a way that kmail won't fetch mails again (going to reinstall) |
| 15:49.01 | PhilRod | I'd just back up and restore ~/Mail |
| 15:49.09 | PhilRod | or do you mean imap? |
| 15:49.57 | MrGrim | imap doesn't need to be backed up unless you use offline imap and delete mails off the server... which is silly |
| 15:50.05 | MrGrim | might as well use pop3 :P |
| 15:50.13 | Jucato | PhilRod: no, just pop3 |
| 15:50.43 | PhilRod | ah, I see what you're getting at |
| 15:50.43 | PhilRod | probably ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/somethingoranother |
| 15:50.51 | Jucato | ah hm... |
| 15:51.17 | PhilRod | I imagine that should be enough to prevent mesages being downloaded again |
| 15:51.39 | Jucato | I'm just worried that, last time I tried, my inbox folder structure didn't get replicated, some POP filters didn't work, and identification/accounts also were a bit whacky, and mails were downloaded again... |
| 15:52.05 | Jucato | anyway, I'll try again.. I just got over 3000+ mail in Gmail... ) |
| 15:52.07 | Jucato | :) |
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| 15:59.42 | grufti | hi |
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| 16:00.15 | PhilRod | hi grufti |
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| 16:01.47 | grufti | i have a little problem with the kicker. when i close some apps there is a strange http://img272.imageshack.us/img272/5586/screenshot0701200716594cy5.png for a very short time. |
| 16:02.28 | grufti | does anyone have similar occurrings? |
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| 16:03.10 | grufti | its the place where the window was in the dock. |
| 16:03.17 | grufti | im using kde 3.5.5 |
| 16:03.18 | Jucato | what KDE version? |
| 16:03.21 | Jucato | hm... |
| 16:03.32 | Jucato | it stay permanently until you restart? |
| 16:03.33 | grufti | 3.5.2 and earlier was ok |
| 16:03.43 | grufti | no, just less than a second |
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| 16:04.14 | grufti | i also tried different graphics card drivers |
| 16:04.23 | grufti | nv and differnet versions of nvidia |
| 16:05.48 | grufti | and not every app got the problem every time i close it. |
| 16:05.52 | grufti | very strange |
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| 16:09.36 | grufti | Jucato, do you have any ideas what i could do? (other than downgrade ;) |
| 16:09.47 | Jucato | not really... :( |
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| 16:15.58 | weyer | anybody familiar with kxdocker? |
| 16:16.16 | weyer | i'd like to disable the spinner / throbber, but i can't find a setting for it |
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| 16:19.40 | MarcoPau | hello, how do I change the directory to be opened by the home button? |
| 16:20.15 | delusions | MarcoPau: rightclick->properties->url |
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| 16:21.42 | crudball | how old is kde 3.4.2? |
| 16:21.55 | crudball | as thats what mandriva wants me to install |
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| 16:22.02 | MarcoPau | delusions: can't find url... |
| 16:22.23 | delusions | MarcoPau: rightclick on the home button |
| 16:22.27 | delusions | i mean icon |
| 16:22.40 | MarcoPau | delusions: yes, I'm already into the property window |
| 16:22.59 | MarcoPau | 4 tabs: general permissions application preview |
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| 16:23.26 | wimpies | can anybody explain why my kwallet manager does not start when I want to read mail ? |
| 16:23.47 | delusions | well, i have the url instead of app, its not so hard to make another link |
| 16:24.09 | delusions | MarcoPau: create a new link to url |
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| 16:24.52 | delusions | wimpies: maybe you selected "no" when it asked |
| 16:25.11 | MarcoPau | delusions: a new link to what? |
| 16:25.34 | delusions | MarcoPau: rightclik on desktop and create a link to url |
| 16:25.41 | delusions | thats what you want right? |
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| 16:25.52 | wimpies | delusions : no i did not and if I did how can I restart it |
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| 16:26.46 | MarcoPau | delusions: you're right, didn't even think of it |
| 16:29.18 | MarcoPau | thanks |
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| 16:29.46 | mcxx | hi, i'm customizing my key binding and i have the following problem: i remapped my C- key to C-M- (more comfortable emacs editing) but KDE al\ |
| 16:29.50 | mcxx | so has some C-M- bindings (e.g. C-M-l is lock session), which i don't want while in emacs. but when i turn off KDE shortcuts (special window \ |
| 16:29.53 | mcxx | settings->workarounds->block global shortcuts) i can't use M-TAB for window switching; in fact, M-TAB is the only key shortcut i want to have\ available. is there a way to do this? |
| 16:30.06 | mcxx | whoops, sorry for the formating :( |
| 16:30.34 | garrettkajmowicz | I'm trying to script an application which takes text input up until end of input (ctrl-D) and then returns output. I'm playing arounf with PtyProcess right now, but can't seem to find how to tell it end of input. Thoughts? |
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| 16:32.59 | Blissex | mcxx: try to read about X windows system key handling and modifiers. |
| 16:33.13 | MarcoPau | mm, do we have any graphic programme to decompress zip tar and maybe rar files? |
| 16:33.25 | Blissex | MarcoPau: yes. |
| 16:33.25 | delusions | MarcoPau: ark |
| 16:33.39 | mcxx | Blissex: ok, thanks |
| 16:33.57 | MarcoPau | thanks again :) |
| 16:34.03 | MarcoPau | useful for parents he |
| 16:34.36 | AssociateX | is there a kde tool for making a short video of desktop action? |
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| 16:35.21 | delusions | AssociateX: pple are taking videos of their beryl/compiz desktops these days :) try to find what they're using |
| 16:36.03 | PhilRod | AssociateX: not really. Try pyvnc2swf, that gnome one whos name I've forgotten, and the one from captorials.com: |
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| 16:36.04 | PhilRod | http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=41938 |
| 16:36.15 | PhilRod | ah, so actually, that might be a yes :-) |
| 16:36.27 | MarcoPau | and to encode/decode/convert audio files what do you guys use? |
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| 16:36.44 | MarcoPau | I would like something similar to easy cd/da extractor for win |
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| 16:37.08 | PhilRod | to rip cds, use audiocd:/ or kaudiocreator |
| 16:37.18 | AssociateX | thanks delusions and PhilRod |
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| 16:37.22 | PhilRod | other stuff, I guess kaudiocreator can do |
| 16:37.57 | MarcoPau | PhilRod: mainly convert weird audio files into mp3 and rip audio cd's possibly with cddb |
| 16:38.50 | shadok | mp3 is a bad format, ogg owns it on all points |
| 16:38.52 | delusions | wimpies: in the kwalletmanager settings dialog theres the access control part, that can help you |
| 16:39.07 | shadok | to transcode i use k3b |
| 16:39.08 | MarcoPau | shadok: I know, but the mp3 players can't read ogg |
| 16:39.21 | shadok | ah ? ^^ |
| 16:39.29 | MarcoPau | at least mine |
| 16:39.59 | shadok | too bad :) |
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| 16:40.25 | MarcoPau | shadok: what can I do... :P |
| 16:41.05 | shadok | you can transcode with k3b but it's a bit hard to find, create a new audiocd, add files and go to the menus and choose "encode tracks" you'll have access to transcoding :) |
| 16:41.18 | shadok | MarcoPau: buy another maybe ? :D |
| 16:41.48 | MarcoPau | shadok: prrrr |
| 16:42.13 | shadok | be advised i will not donate money for you to buy a new one :p |
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| 16:57.37 | aarcane | can .desktop files contain the $HOME environment variable ? |
| 16:58.59 | PhilRod | don't know - check on freedesktop.org |
| 16:59.10 | PhilRod | kde config files can contain env vars though |
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| 17:07.22 | mots_ | is there any panel-applet that watches rss-feeds and notifies you on new entries? |
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| 17:08.26 | Jucato | knode? |
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| 17:12.26 | Skrot | Hi. Is it possible to set up krfb to start at the same time as KDM? So one could remotly log in via KDM |
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| 17:19.26 | aarcane | Skrot, what is krfb ? I have remote login via kdm currently without it. |
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| 17:24.55 | wimpies | Hi all. I have enabled audio file previewing in konqueror but when I hover my mouse over an mp3 file I still cannot hear music. What can be wrong ? |
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| 17:25.25 | Skrot | aarcane: Which way? I was thinking of login into KDM on the server-side |
| 17:25.40 | Skrot | I know KDM kan log in to remote servers as a client |
| 17:26.45 | EvilGuru | Has anyone else found that after a while of running KDE with shadows/translucency effects that their system slows right down until the log in/out? |
| 17:26.53 | Skrot | e.g if the server is restarted, I want to be able to VNC/remote connect to it, and login via KDM on the remote machine |
| 17:27.16 | Kasyx | EvilGuru: yes, I had that. It's kompmgr gobbling the CPU via X |
| 17:27.24 | Kasyx | EvilGuru: that's as far as my research took me |
| 17:27.33 | Kasyx | EvilGuru: then I switched to beryl, which is sexier and performs better |
| 17:27.38 | EvilGuru | Kasyx: yep, but loggin out then in again fixes it totally? |
| 17:27.47 | Kasyx | EvilGuru: restarting X does, yeah |
| 17:27.50 | Mooby | Skrot: you should use nx : faster :) |
| 17:28.13 | EvilGuru | Kasyx: I really want to make the switch but I love my KDE window decorations |
| 17:28.26 | EvilGuru | and aquamarine is well... kind of... not working |
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| 17:30.22 | Skrot | talking about kwin_composite? |
| 17:30.57 | EvilGuru | Skrot: maybe, if the name means what I think it means |
| 17:31.15 | Skrot | You're talking about kwin gaining compiz-like features, no? |
| 17:31.21 | EvilGuru | yep |
| 17:31.21 | kolla | never got it workin as I want |
| 17:31.31 | Skrot | Yeah, I wouldn't hold my breath :p |
| 17:31.57 | Jucato | some of the compositing and transparencies have already been committed to svn iirc |
| 17:32.09 | Jucato | there was a blog post about it last month |
| 17:32.21 | EvilGuru | as the current translucency settings are plagued with bugs, so I am not expecting anything before KDE4 |
| 17:32.22 | Skrot | you may follow the progress at http://websvn.kde.org/branches/work/kwin_composite/ |
| 17:32.35 | kendrick | woo |
| 17:32.49 | Jucato | Skrot: wouldn't it be in trunk? |
| 17:33.05 | Skrot | Dunno, I'm not a a developer |
| 17:33.11 | Jucato | EvilGuru: they're going to ditch kompmgr in KWin 4 |
| 17:33.30 | Jucato | Skrot: well, it should be. anything in branches is KDE 3 |
| 17:33.36 | Jucato | afaik |
| 17:33.38 | EvilGuru | as long as I can have my shadows and fading effects... |
| 17:33.48 | Jucato | I might definitely be wrong. :P |
| 17:33.49 | EvilGuru | although the idea of a cubed desktop is tempting |
| 17:34.01 | Skrot | You are talking about the work lubos is doing, no? |
| 17:34.08 | Skrot | http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/280 that stuff? |
| 17:34.23 | Jucato | yeah... |
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| 17:34.46 | Skrot | right, its in branch unless there are two locations for it |
| 17:35.54 | Skrot | I really hope they get it done, but seems to be getting less love than it should :) |
| 17:36.01 | Jucato | ah yeah,didn't see the "work" part. |
| 17:36.20 | Jucato | stuff in the work module can be for anything :P |
| 17:36.32 | Skrot | hehe =) |
| 17:37.09 | Skrot | Atleast there seems like more developers are getting SVN-access to that project |
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| 17:51.08 | Red_Cloud | I am in the process of installing KDE and would like some opinions. I am at the point of installing Kdelibs. As an option for Kdelibs should I install Heimdal-0.7.2 or MIT krb5-1.4.1,? |
| 17:52.58 | litb | Skrot: is that thing that lubos is doing for kwin3 or kwin4? |
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| 17:53.57 | Jucato | kwin4 |
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| 17:54.19 | tdmsilvino | hi.. I run Slackware 11 and KDE 3.5.4 |
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| 17:54.49 | tdmsilvino | does someone know how to install new window decoration on kde? |
| 17:55.36 | Jucato | tdmsilvino: you compile them mostly |
| 17:55.42 | PhilRod | you need to compile them, unless they're icewm themes |
| 17:55.50 | Jucato | or dekorator themes |
| 17:55.56 | PhilRod | err, where's your guide, Jucato? |
| 17:56.02 | PhilRod | did we get it online somewhere? |
| 17:56.02 | tdmsilvino | I've downloaded some .emerald files from kde-look |
| 17:56.05 | Jucato | fetching :) |
| 17:56.12 | Jucato | PhilRod: it's on docs.kde.org |
| 17:56.21 | tdmsilvino | but i don't know how to use these files |
| 17:56.29 | Jucato | er... |
| 17:56.35 | Jucato | that's different.. you need Beryl for that |
| 17:57.16 | EvilGuru | am I the only one who thinks that Ark needs a bit of work doing to it? |
| 17:57.22 | Jucato | http://docs.kde.org/userguide/win-deco.html |
| 17:58.03 | tdmsilvino | thanks.. i'll look this page |
| 18:00.09 | Jucato | tdmsilvino: however, like I said, emerald files require you to have Beryl installed |
| 18:01.43 | tdmsilvino | i'll search something about this too |
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| 18:03.50 | shadok | EvilGuru: no |
| 18:04.14 | shadok | there is no good gui for archive managing under linux imho |
| 18:06.16 | tdmsilvino | Jucato, I read the requirements on beryl page |
| 18:06.31 | tdmsilvino | Jucato, and i'll need to buy a 3d card for it to work |
| 18:06.54 | Jucato | yes, which basically means you can't use that... |
| 18:07.06 | Jucato | (and Beryl isn't part of KDE... so...) |
| 18:07.53 | tdmsilvino | Jucato, by now I must use the common kde themes and enable composite in X11, isn't it? |
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| 18:08.12 | Jucato | if you want compositing (shadows and translucency) |
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| 18:08.51 | tdmsilvino | yeah .. I'll enable it just for the decoration |
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| 18:11.48 | tdmsilvino | juca |
| 18:11.57 | Jucato | yeah? |
| 18:11.57 | tdmsilvino | Jucato, thanks for your help |
| 18:12.05 | Jucato | no problem :) |
| 18:12.09 | tdmsilvino | :) |
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| 18:17.31 | sPiN | howdy fellas... |
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| 18:17.54 | sPiN | you know how kde can save your session and open everything back up for you, well there is also an option to restore a manually saved session |
| 18:18.11 | sPiN | but i do not see any way on that dialog to 'manually save the session' |
| 18:18.38 | shadok | i just found out that altough my "pause" shortcut is set, amarok does not display the shortcut next to the pause button when i right-click on the trayicon |
| 18:19.40 | oGALAXYo | shadok: #amarok |
| 18:19.52 | shadok | ah sorry :) |
| 18:19.54 | shadok | thx |
| 18:19.57 | oGALAXYo | np |
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| 18:22.35 | MetaBookfoziS | http://uncyclopedia.org/wiki/KDE |
| 18:22.58 | Jucato | this should be fun :D |
| 18:23.27 | MetaBookfoziS | ;) |
| 18:23.55 | MetaBookfoziS | i rekommend a kde tranklation that uses kde keet lankuake:) |
| 18:24.01 | oGALAXYo | hehe |
| 18:24.10 | oGALAXYo | oh someone improved the wiki |
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| 18:24.30 | MetaBookfoziS | that kuys are totally idiots:) |
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| 18:24.49 | MetaBookfoziS | check the news, about hussein:) |
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| 18:25.16 | oGALAXYo | the gnome one rocks too |
| 18:25.33 | MetaBookfoziS | all rocks:) |
| 18:25.35 | oGALAXYo | the leaked screenshot of gnome 3 rocks |
| 18:25.50 | oGALAXYo | but that start menu is irritating me. |
| 18:25.59 | oGALAXYo | i am confused by so much complexity |
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| 18:27.17 | MetaBookfoziS | However, Icaza died after removing his heart from his body as he thought it was a useless component. |
| 18:27.29 | oGALAXYo | hahaha |
| 18:27.37 | MinceR | :) |
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| 18:29.19 | oGALAXYo | GNOME was created by the young Mexican bisexual midget, Miguel de Icaza when he was only 4 years old. |
| 18:29.21 | oGALAXYo | :) |
| 18:30.33 | oGALAXYo | this made my day.. |
| 18:30.36 | oGALAXYo | totally awesome.. |
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| 18:31.29 | Rapp | has anyone used the groupdav connector of kontact lately? |
| 18:31.50 | mots_ | KDE poliKy is "If you disKover some empty spaKe, add an useless feature or somethinK very very irritatinK. The iKon must be shiny, rotatinK, and Kontain at least one K." |
| 18:31.54 | mots_ | well |
| 18:31.59 | mots_ | uncyclopedia pwns |
| 18:32.05 | MetaBookfoziS | :))) |
| 18:32.54 | MetaBookfoziS | ^ that link to the topic?:) |
| 18:33.51 | oGALAXYo | the "linux" one rocks too |
| 18:34.09 | MetaBookfoziS | and the ubuntu (the communists linux or what:)) |
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| 18:34.48 | oGALAXYo | the linux entry is therefore nice since it has a kiefer sutherland picture embedded |
| 18:35.32 | oGALAXYo | There is also a hidden game called super-rm-rf. To use it, try this in your terminal: |
| 18:35.38 | oGALAXYo | ~$ cd / |
| 18:35.46 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.49 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:35.50 | oGALAXYo | hahaha |
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| 18:37.26 | MetaBookfoziS | its nicer with nohup;) |
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| 18:40.54 | oGALAXYo | no shit.. the ubuntu one is awesome.. |
| 18:41.07 | oGALAXYo | "jewbuntu" |
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| 18:42.21 | troy | does anyone know if the KDE-look contributor kiras is ever on irc? |
| 18:42.37 | oGALAXYo | do you see him here ? |
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| 18:43.26 | mariux | troy: you could try emailing him |
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| 18:48.44 | troy | mariux: I did already :) |
| 18:49.17 | troy | mariux: just need permission to reuse an image he created in an article I'm writing :) |
| 18:50.55 | mariux | is it gpled? |
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| 19:00.14 | mots | is there any way of applying icon-themes for gtk-programs using some config file or maybe even kcontrol? |
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| 19:04.14 | MetaBookfoziS | mots, i don't think |
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| 19:04.32 | Murray_B | Hi! |
| 19:04.36 | mots | the default one looks pretty crappy... |
| 19:04.54 | MetaBookfoziS | firefox and thunderbird are themeable... |
| 19:04.58 | MetaBookfoziS | other apps:/ |
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| 19:05.42 | MetaBookfoziS | what other gtk app you use ? |
| 19:05.59 | oGALAXYo | firefox != gtk |
| 19:06.06 | MetaBookfoziS | oGALAXYo > yes i know |
| 19:06.26 | MetaBookfoziS | but have relations with it (more than qt:/ ) |
| 19:06.32 | oGALAXYo | yes thats true. |
| 19:06.43 | oGALAXYo | it uses a fundamental subset of GTK+ |
| 19:06.54 | MetaBookfoziS | but i killed that today:) |
| 19:06.55 | MetaBookfoziS | all |
| 19:06.59 | mots | well, gimp for example |
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| 19:07.32 | MetaBookfoziS | i ahve kde dialogs (save open) with firefox , nice forms and scrollbars (With alittle bug) |
| 19:08.25 | MetaBookfoziS | hmm, where ff exactly uses gtk? in the options dialog and the open/Save, not? |
| 19:09.02 | bobbin | In the konqueror file:///usr/share/apps/konqueror/about/tips.html, what does ' "talk" sessions ' mean? |
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| 19:10.24 | MetaBookfoziS | for me, that fiel is a couple of %1:) |
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| 19:14.46 | bobbin | It says """ You can also find "Full-Screen Mode" in the Settings menu. This feature is very useful for "Talk" sessions. """ |
| 19:14.55 | Murray_B | Could someone help me and tell me, which package I have to install to get the option to switch to mozilla-egine in konqueror? |
| 19:15.01 | PhilRod | bobbin: oh, it probably means for giving presentations |
| 19:15.09 | Renze | Murray_B: doesn't exist |
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| 19:16.14 | Murray_B | Renze: Hm? Did they delete it? |
| 19:16.14 | bobbin | Thanks, PhilRod. |
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| 19:16.29 | Renze | Murray_B: a very long time ago... there was some effort to port gecko to Qt, but that fell through too |
| 19:18.05 | Murray_B | Renze: Hmpf. There is a problem in rendering pictures in kde/qt/nvidia-driver, the konqueror-engine is unacceptable slow... :-( |
| 19:18.17 | Renze | Murray_B: plenty fast here |
| 19:18.23 | Kasyx | Murray_B: same here |
| 19:19.04 | Renze | Murray_B: in fact, in daily use, konq/khtml is noticeably faster than firefox/gecko for me |
| 19:19.20 | Murray_B | Renze / Kasyx: Maybe you are using an older driver? The problem exists, I fond it it in bugzilla IIRC... |
| 19:19.28 | Renze | I'm not using nvidia ;) |
| 19:19.29 | Kasyx | Murray_B: nope. Latest driver |
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| 19:23.03 | LiquidNerd | how can I make amarok edit all the tag information for my files? |
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| 19:23.55 | LiquidNerd | I have all my mp3's labeled Artist - Song, I would love to make amarok edit the tag info to reflect it properly |
| 19:24.41 | oGALAXYo | LiquidNerd: #amarok |
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| 19:26.11 | ali_ | klipper is not showing the copied images in the tray applet! |
| 19:26.43 | ali_ | what is the problem? |
| 19:26.51 | oGALAXYo | ali_: i dont understand the problem.. |
| 19:27.14 | oGALAXYo | ali_: a) what kde version are we talking about, b) what distribution is that, c) what exactly is the problemcase |
| 19:27.46 | oGALAXYo | copied image.. ? from what application ? to where ? |
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| 19:28.01 | ali_ | suse 10.2, kde 3.5. it only show texts copied in the klipper tray |
| 19:28.07 | ali_ | history |
| 19:28.17 | oGALAXYo | ok |
| 19:28.30 | oGALAXYo | and from what application did you copy the image ? |
| 19:28.40 | ali_ | it used to show images on suse 9.3 |
| 19:29.05 | oGALAXYo | ok and from what application did you copy the image from ? |
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| 19:30.08 | oGALAXYo | heh DIA is such a PITA program.. it simply is broken. |
| 19:30.34 | oGALAXYo | i made a diagram. tried printing it and it printed totally misaligned text |
| 19:30.45 | SSJ | ali_:Find ~/.kde/share/config/klipperrc and add |
| 19:30.54 | SSJ | ali_:IgnoreImages=false |
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| 19:37.33 | _ali_ | SSJ: is working now. Thanks alot |
| 19:37.50 | SSJ | _ali_:You're welcome =) |
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| 19:46.29 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.37 | mots | is there any way to get beryl's virtual desktops working with thekicker -taskbar? |
| 19:48.45 | Dr_willis | lindenle, i had a similer odd issue like that this week.. i cleaned out a lot of my .kde/share settings and it fixed it. |
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| 19:50.10 | lindenle | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:52.02 | Dr_willis | i removed mine.. actually i cleaned out a lot of the setting files.. till i got the right one. |
| 19:52.14 | Dr_willis | i only kept the few setting files i knew i needed |
| 19:52.38 | lindenle | Dr_willis: So which one finally did it? |
| 19:53.00 | Dr_willis | dont rember.. :) i thinkit was a config file not a app/data file. but your case may differ |
| 19:53.32 | Dr_willis | it MAY of been konquerorrc |
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| 19:53.43 | Dr_willis | or kdesktoprc |
| 19:54.10 | MetaBookfoziS | hmm:) |
| 19:54.13 | Dr_willis | i basicially just keep my ktorrent data files.. and removed the rest... |
| 19:54.17 | Dr_willis | Hard Kore :) |
| 19:54.23 | MetaBookfoziS | i'm do some benchmarks with konquerr and firefox |
| 19:54.48 | MetaBookfoziS | konq dies, as i see. (in javascript @ the first test) |
| 19:55.07 | MetaBookfoziS | the first is to count 0-10000 |
| 19:55.14 | MetaBookfoziS | needed about 20seconds |
| 19:55.20 | MetaBookfoziS | http://www.24fun.com/downloadcenter/benchjs/benchjs.html |
| 19:56.19 | mots | is there any way to clear bash's history? |
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| 19:56.49 | Sho_ | mots: history -c |
| 19:56.55 | recon39 | hello all |
| 19:57.16 | mots | Sho_: ty |
| 19:57.39 | recon39 | does anyone in here know how to setup a QTDIR on ubuntu |
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| 19:57.50 | Dr_willis | recon39, Huh? |
| 19:58.14 | _ali_ | how do I make KDE change Language by pressing SHIFT+ALT together |
| 19:58.24 | Dr_willis | QTDIR is a system variable that points to the location of the various qt libs/files i thought |
| 19:58.43 | recon39 | I am trying to install mythtv on ubuntu but i cant until i set up qtdir |
| 19:58.50 | lindenle | Dr_willis:did it require restarting X? |
| 19:58.54 | recon39 | I dont know how to set it up |
| 19:58.58 | Dr_willis | I dident have to do that the other day recon39 |
| 19:59.06 | Renze | why do people always want things to be "just like it is in Windows"? |
| 19:59.17 | lindenle | Dr_willis:moved kdesktoprc and that did it thx |
| 19:59.21 | Dr_willis | I followed some ubuntu/mythtv guide/wiki page |
| 19:59.24 | lindenle | Dr_willis:no restart necessary |
| 19:59.24 | recon39 | well I do i dont have any thing in there |
| 19:59.40 | Dr_willis | lindenle, and i got no idea what/why it messed up. :) |
| 19:59.53 | Sho_ | Renze: Shift+Alt is attractive because it generally stays the same across layouts |
| 19:59.57 | lindenle | Dr_willis: easy fix though, that is great new wallpaper time |
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| 20:00.38 | Renze | Sho_: apart from it being two modifiers, and preventing any other shortcuts using shift+alt working ;) |
| 20:01.04 | Sho_ | Renze: Why would it prevent any other shortcuts? Shortcuts trigger on release |
| 20:01.18 | Renze | Sho_: mine don't |
| 20:01.30 | kolla | shift+alt is for creating uppercase alternate characters :P |
| 20:01.34 | Sho_ | Renze: It does become a problem when you change your mind midway through doing a Shift+Alt+X and release early, certainly |
| 20:01.39 | recon39 | is there a way to make the qtdir |
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| 20:01.50 | Renze | Sho_: my shortcuts do not trigger on release |
| 20:01.58 | Renze | Sho_: they trigger immediately |
| 20:02.05 | Sho_ | You have strange shortcuts |
| 20:02.06 | Sho_ | :) |
| 20:02.22 | Renze | Sho_: all of them... even the app default ones |
| 20:02.27 | kolla | Renze: so what do you do to type , and alike? |
| 20:02.45 | Sho_ | In any case, giving people the ability to recreate what they're used to from their Windows system lowers the cost of switching for them |
| 20:02.58 | _ali_ | any key combinations no problem |
| 20:02.59 | Renze | kolla: compose D - == Ð, compose T H == þ |
| 20:03.03 | Renze | er, Þ |
| 20:03.04 | Sho_ | And considering that most of our user influx are switchers, that's not the worst of things |
| 20:03.09 | kolla | ah, compose |
| 20:03.55 | _ali_ | i just want key short cut to change the language instead of moving from the keyboard while tayping |
| 20:04.02 | Renze | Sho_: heh... I have used Linux for 8 years, and I used Windows for 9 months... change wasn't a problem for me :D |
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| 20:04.50 | kolla | never "used" windows, I really wish someone could make a real keyboard soon.. |
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| 20:05.11 | Sho_ | Renze: And I only use one keyboard layout .. ;) |
| 20:05.17 | Renze | kolla: get one of those keyboards with nothing on the keycaps... be a real geek :D |
| 20:05.23 | Renze | Sho_: me too :D |
| 20:05.54 | Dr_willis | one of the black DasKeyboards. thats just this Other brand keyboard with black keys.. :) and $20 more pricetag |
| 20:05.55 | kolla | I want keyboard with ctrl and esc placed where they shall be |
| 20:06.12 | kolla | like happy hacking, only full size keyboard |
| 20:06.26 | canllaith | argh! I hate those! |
| 20:06.31 | Dr_willis | :) |
| 20:06.34 | MetaBookfoziS | http://kepup.extra.hu/?ff_konq_opera.png |
| 20:06.38 | MetaBookfoziS | fsck'n opera:/ |
| 20:06.42 | Dr_willis | +it must weight 5 lbs |
| 20:06.44 | canllaith | My colleague who sits beside me has one and he drives me nuts typing on it hard. |
| 20:06.50 | kolla | a USB vt220 keyboard would be nice |
| 20:07.21 | _ali_ | is there a way to do that for changing language with key cominations in kde? |
| 20:07.28 | canllaith | and yay I'm not on call |
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| 20:08.54 | stoned | why is opera so fast apparantly? |
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| 20:09.29 | stoned | Thats a retarded name for a web browser, so I don't use opera. But why? |
| 20:09.35 | kolla | _ali_: I have an option way down in the shortcut section of kcontrol center |
| 20:09.45 | stoned | canllaith, are you a doctor? |
| 20:09.47 | canllaith | It might be fast, but it doesn't render pages very well. |
| 20:09.50 | kolla | "switch to next keyboard layout" |
| 20:09.55 | Q-collective | stoned: good reason for not using opera... |
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| 20:10.02 | canllaith | stoned: No, I'm a 'linux/virtualisation technical specialist' |
| 20:10.26 | canllaith | Which is an asanine name for 'sysadmin' |
| 20:10.33 | stoned | canllaith, I see. Well thats kinda like a doctor, but for 'linux/virtualization' |
| 20:10.47 | kolla | _ali_: but I cant set it to just alt+shirt, I have it set to alt+shift+return |
| 20:10.58 | stoned | in case it has a nervous breakdown, you're there to save the say |
| 20:10.58 | kolla | hehe.. shirt.. I mean, shift |
| 20:11.02 | stoned | day* |
| 20:11.06 | stoned | shirt |
| 20:11.07 | stoned | lol |
| 20:11.16 | stoned | alt+shirt, thats an awesome key combo |
| 20:11.19 | canllaith | More in case airnz booking systems fall flat on their faces, but sure, same thing really =) |
| 20:11.37 | kolla | hehe, yeah :) |
| 20:11.52 | _ali_ | kolla: how can I do it. there is no option in kcenter for that ( any key combinatons....does not matter for me) |
| 20:12.28 | stoned | Q-collective, why the ...? |
| 20:12.40 | Q-collective | why not? |
| 20:13.01 | stoned | that denotes you will say something else to finish off your thought process |
| 20:13.10 | stoned | you have not said anything about it after that |
| 20:13.20 | stoned | so really an elipses shouldn't have been used |
| 20:13.33 | stoned | unless it was some retarded form of sarcasm |
| 20:13.35 | kolla | _ali_: under regional and accessability... |
| 20:13.39 | stoned | I shush |
| 20:13.52 | kolla | shortcuts (or hotkeys... not sure what it is in english) |
| 20:14.20 | stoned | kolla, its both |
| 20:14.41 | canllaith | Hrm, almost no-one is in. I might as well work from home today.... |
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| 20:16.24 | kolla | stoned: yes, but I dont know which term is used in english KDE :) |
| 20:16.43 | stoned | both |
| 20:17.10 | kolla | well.. right there :) |
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| 20:17.31 | kolla | _ali_: http://amiga.nvg.org/moro/kbdlayout.png |
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| 20:17.40 | kolla | that's where it is located here |
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| 20:18.24 | stoned | keyboard shortcuts, shortcuts, shortcut keys, hotkeys are same thing as shortcut keys. They are are keys, that are HOT, just like keys are that a SHORTCUT to something. |
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| 20:18.56 | stoned | umm |
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| 20:19.08 | stoned | pretend I made sense |
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| 20:21.25 | stoned | I am using Xming + KDE 3.5.5 latest in Debian/sid with an exported KDM session over XDMCP. When I go to Kcontrol>Backgrounds and change stuff, the changes do not take effect. Is this because of using KDE over the network, or because there is a bug? I did not find anything on debian BTS. |
| 20:21.41 | stoned | Please advise if I should file a bug with KDE or Debian |
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| 20:24.21 | _ali_ | kolla: it worked chaning from english to arabic but does not work the other way. I think because in arabic layout it does not reconginze the key combination |
| 20:24.32 | kolla | ah, yes.. probably |
| 20:24.34 | _ali_ | anyway thanks that helped |
| 20:24.50 | kolla | you can put in arabic combination as an alternative shortcut, I guess |
| 20:25.06 | oceanstream | Is there a howto on the kde media mangaer? I've got my udev rules configured and matching fstab entries, but for whatever reason the media manager doesn't recognize my devices. |
| 20:26.29 | W8TAH | need some help with KATE - i opened 2 files in vertical split screens now every time i open kate, its 2 split panes, == how do i go back to just one pane? |
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| 20:29.14 | JamesB192 | W8TAH: Go into one of the views and hit<ctrl><shift>r ?? |
| 20:29.31 | W8TAH | James : ok |
| 20:29.48 | W8TAH | JamesB192, AHHHHHHH -- got it |
| 20:29.51 | W8TAH | thank you |
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| 20:32.45 | hagabaka | can kde use python2.5 instead of 2.4? |
| 20:33.05 | kolla | sure |
| 20:33.29 | kolla | er.. slash dat, I dont know :) |
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| 20:35.59 | lockd | does Konqueror support XSL? |
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| 20:38.52 | nixternal | lockd: in konqi type-> help:/konqueror |
| 20:39.18 | nixternal | that is a DocBook/XML file that is rendered with XSL templates and CSS |
| 20:39.35 | nixternal | is that what you meant? |
| 20:40.22 | lockd | hmm.. what could cause Konqueror to not even apply XSL to a web page? |
| 20:40.46 | lockd | when it works in other browsers, strangely |
| 20:41.03 | nixternal | the web page isn't calling the xsl file correctly possibly, or rather the web page wasn't build correctly with the xsl file |
| 20:41.15 | nixternal | hrmm, that is an odd one |
| 20:41.45 | lockd | this is the buggy page http://retroeq.com/queryeq.php |
| 20:41.51 | lockd | there's a -lot- of code |
| 20:41.54 | nixternal | was just gonna ask you for that |
| 20:42.36 | Kim^J | lockd: Just plain text. ? |
| 20:43.01 | lockd | Kin^J: no |
| 20:43.05 | lockd | Kin^J: view document source |
| 20:43.18 | lockd | Kin^J: it looks as if the XSL isn't getting applied |
| 20:43.36 | Kim^J | lockd: Tip: Type ki<press tab> |
| 20:43.57 | nixternal | hehe |
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| 20:45.03 | lockd | ki<tab> ? |
| 20:45.03 | Kim^J | Now, watch Korgoth. |
| 20:45.30 | Kim^J | lockd: In Irssi or whatever you are using. Type ki and then press the tab button. |
| 20:45.43 | lockd | Kim^J: oh that |
| 20:45.44 | Kim^J | Tab completion. :) |
| 20:45.49 | Kim^J | Yes. :D |
| 20:46.51 | lockd | nixternal: any idea yet? |
| 20:47.00 | nixternal | im taking a look |
| 20:47.10 | benklop | help.... my konqerors are hanging when i right click |
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| 20:47.19 | benklop | any idea what might be causing it? |
| 20:47.56 | smileaf | benklop: has it worked before? |
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| 20:48.08 | benklop | always |
| 20:48.20 | smileaf | benklop: Ok, have you upgraded or installed anything since then? |
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| 20:48.38 | benklop | no, in fact these windows were working earlier on in this session |
| 20:49.02 | smileaf | changed any config option then? |
| 20:49.12 | benklop | kontact also hung upon trying to send an email |
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| 20:49.45 | benklop | i would just restart, but i really am hoping kontact isnt hung for good because i need the contents of that email |
| 20:49.56 | benklop | none that i know of |
| 20:50.28 | benklop | i removed the kabc lock file because i couldnt add an address book entry... |
| 20:51.04 | benklop | its like bits of my system are just hanging for no apparent reason |
| 20:51.47 | smileaf | hmm.. I'm sadly out of ideas. :/ |
| 20:52.34 | smileaf | perhaps check if your running out of memory, hard drive space? |
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| 20:52.56 | benklop | dont know why i havnt checked that |
| 20:53.48 | benklop | ksysguard seems to just sit there giving 888888888 for every answer |
| 20:54.07 | smileaf | there is always that case that somehow kontact did crash and that somehow messed with an address in memory or something, perhaps some shared library. |
| 20:54.11 | benklop | the sensor browser is empty |
| 20:54.21 | James-S | Everning |
| 20:54.21 | smileaf | in konsole: free <-- memory, df <-- hd space |
| 20:54.27 | lockd | nixternal: apparently the help:/konqueror/index.html is using CSS not XSL |
| 20:54.28 | benklop | nod |
| 20:55.01 | benklop | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:55.01 | benklop | Mem: 903748 860832 42916 0 1244 704080 |
| 20:55.01 | benklop | -/+ buffers/cache: 155508 748240 |
| 20:55.02 | benklop | Swap: 506036 2912 503124 |
| 20:55.05 | nixternal | lockd: it is, but it is built with an xsl template |
| 20:55.11 | benklop | seems i have free mem |
| 20:55.15 | lockd | nixternal: ahh.. |
| 20:55.38 | lockd | nixternal: is there another channel i should ask about debugging xsl? or is it fully browser related (as it works in firefox) |
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| 20:55.47 | nixternal | the index.html is actually created when you open the help:/konqueror directory, because it is stored as a .docbook file on your system |
| 20:55.49 | benklop | no more than 77% used on any partition |
| 20:56.19 | nixternal | lockd: you could always try #kde-docs and see if someone in there, i.e., PhilRod when he is around, can help you |
| 20:56.21 | benklop | where does ksysguardd get its info? |
| 20:56.22 | smileaf | I'm going to say its the kontact issue then. |
| 20:56.25 | nixternal | it is quiet in there right now |
| 20:56.35 | lockd | nixternal: you have no idea, then? |
| 20:56.45 | lockd | nixternal: perhaps KHTML can't render xsl on its own |
| 20:56.52 | nixternal | i hate to say it, but know i don't |
| 20:57.00 | nixternal | i just read a page that says KHTML can render xsl |
| 20:57.04 | lockd | nixternal: and requires some sort of helper app |
| 20:57.14 | nixternal | i wish i knew of another xsl page to try it out on |
| 20:57.34 | smileaf | I have a few xsl pages. tho php auto translates them. |
| 20:57.54 | smileaf | I could setup a tester I guess. |
| 20:58.19 | lockd | http://lists.kde.org/?l=kfm-devel&m=97240320921552&w=2 seems to impy there is 0 support for xsl in khtml |
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| 20:59.11 | nixternal | hmm, i just noticed that konqi doesn't play nice with the documentation xsl files either |
| 20:59.33 | lockd | nixternal: is there any way to set up a kioslave to do xsl? |
| 20:59.51 | lockd | nixternal: or extension, etc. |
| 20:59.54 | benklop | smileaf: the first web browser crash was before i messed with kontact |
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| 21:00.16 | nixternal | lockd: that is a tad bit beyond me, haven't messed much with kio-slave at all, except for using |
| 21:00.56 | nixternal | it is hard for me to believe there is still no xsl support in khtml for more than 6yrs |
| 21:00.59 | smileaf | benklop: no idea. could just continue that thought and say the konqueror crash, did something that made kontact crash =) But I'm just guessing in the end. |
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| 21:01.27 | smileaf | nixternal: I do recall seeing it in the todo. |
| 21:01.38 | smileaf | nixternal: but that was for 3.4 or 3.5 |
| 21:01.41 | lockd | nixternal: i'm about to give up on konqueror as a web browser, it is a good file manager but that's it |
| 21:01.51 | nixternal | hmm, i didn't think about looking at the todo |
| 21:01.52 | lockd | nixternal: i've got 3.5.5 monolithic |
| 21:02.16 | nixternal | ya lockd, i try to use konqi more and more as a web browser, but mainly use FF myself |
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| 21:02.26 | benklop | my guess is that somehow konq brought down something that ksysguard, kontact, and konq all use, but that konversation, kopete, and others do not |
| 21:02.32 | smileaf | I do remember reading that the suggestion of kde linking agaist libxsl was out of the question as they didn't want to do that. |
| 21:02.43 | lockd | nixternal: FF is just going to pull in so much extra stuff I don't need |
| 21:02.55 | lockd | smileaf: why can't they link against it? |
| 21:02.57 | nixternal | lockd: ya, to many gtk libs |
| 21:03.11 | smileaf | lockd: it'd create more dependencies and more memory usage. |
| 21:03.15 | hacosta | im having problems synching my palm with kontact, even though i can (sometimes) sync it with kpilot |
| 21:03.32 | lockd | something's pulled in libxslt on a pretty much all-kde system |
| 21:03.34 | lockd | no firefox or anything |
| 21:03.48 | smileaf | lockd: linking against libxsl would also mean linking against libxml, maybe others. |
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| 21:04.15 | lockd | smileaf: how else can you use XML? without writing your own implementation, that is |
| 21:04.30 | smileaf | lockd: I think it was the linking against libxml that was the problem. khtml already has xml like support. |
| 21:04.32 | lockd | smileaf: and writing a new implementation would be even worse for memory/dependencies |
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| 21:05.15 | lockd | smileaf: so that would mean an unofficial patch to use standard xml/xslt libs with it? |
| 21:05.25 | lockd | smileaf: kde so seems like Linux kernel |
| 21:05.32 | smileaf | all this info is found in kde's bugzilla |
| 21:06.16 | expose | How do i stop konqi from displaying letters for each link when pressing [CTRL]? |
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| 21:07.42 | smileaf | lockd: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55420 |
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| 21:08.15 | smileaf | "We're not about to link to it now, in order to load yet another XML parser into memory" -- Thiago |
| 21:08.38 | lockd | smileaf: is there a way to write plugins, however |
| 21:09.26 | lockd | smileaf: that are used when a page's source matches a particular regex or something? |
| 21:09.28 | smileaf | I'm sure you could probably create a kioslave or something |
| 21:09.53 | rogier | hello is have a question: I just started using Kontact. There is a special date function for birthdays and so on. I don't understand how i can add a special date |
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| 21:10.19 | lockd | smileaf: kioslaves only work for filesystem stuff, i thought |
| 21:10.34 | smileaf | I can't say I know the internals, but kinda wondering how difficult it would be to write a plugin that once done passes its html output to khtml for rendering. |
| 21:10.36 | lockd | smileaf: oh i guess help:/ is kioslave |
| 21:10.44 | smileaf | yep |
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| 21:10.55 | smileaf | likewise with kio_http ;) |
| 21:11.33 | lockd | smileaf: yeah that is too.. i can always modify the kio_http |
| 21:11.57 | smileaf | if its possible to do something like that, have it check for an XML file with a XSL stylesheet, run the translation and pass the output to KHTML. |
| 21:12.38 | lockd | smileaf: if it's going to be fixed (i.e. using xmlsoft's implementation) in kde 4 i will just use another browser in the meantime |
| 21:13.07 | smileaf | from the looks of it they'll make their own XSL implementation. |
| 21:13.25 | lockd | smileaf: if it's going to be a fork/clone of xslt... i don't know |
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| 21:13.52 | lockd | smileaf: what good does another XSL implementation do? |
| 21:14.33 | smileaf | lockd: what good does another HTML implementation do? like wise with any duplicate implementation? :) |
| 21:15.30 | smileaf | it could be better, it could be worse. |
| 21:17.10 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: yeah that's from a stupid bug |
| 21:17.35 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: it's fixed in the next release, but a workaround is to delete the configuration file |
| 21:18.01 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: rm ~/.kde/share/apps/ksysguard/*.sgrd |
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| 21:19.29 | sredna | lockd: You could try quanta+ ;) |
| 21:20.00 | benklop | JohnFlux_: thanks, at least something works |
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| 21:20.13 | lockd | sredna: for what? |
| 21:20.16 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: :-) |
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| 21:20.31 | sredna | lockd: For writing XML docs |
| 21:20.37 | lockd | sredna: i would just use a CGI script with Apache to view xslt docs |
| 21:20.49 | sredna | lockd: Afaik it does provide some of the stuff you wants |
| 21:20.53 | lockd | sredna: i am trying to use XSLT, not write XML docs |
| 21:20.56 | benklop | JohnFlux_: actually, it seems to not fix it. the localhost sensor tree is still empty |
| 21:21.19 | sredna | lockd: I don't know how the support in quanta works. |
| 21:21.44 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: in a konsole, could you run "which ksysguard" and "which ksysguardd" |
| 21:21.46 | benklop | JohnFlux_: i am completely sure something is borked on my system, but it is something not having to do with config files, because i havnt changed any. i also havnt installed anything |
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| 21:22.06 | benklop | JohnFlux_: /usr/kde/3.5/bin/ksysguard |
| 21:22.17 | benklop | JohnFlux_: /usr/kde/3.5/bin/ksysguardd |
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| 21:22.31 | JohnFlux_ | kde/3.5 ? which distro is this? |
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| 21:22.36 | benklop | gentoo |
| 21:22.44 | JohnFlux_ | hmmm |
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| 21:23.10 | benklop | nothing but kde apps seem to be malfunctioning |
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| 21:23.18 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: do: echo monitors | ksysguardd |
| 21:23.20 | dcorbin | KDE is no longer recognizing my WIN key. I recall there being a setting in the control panel somewhere for this. Pointers? |
| 21:23.32 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: that should give a long list of info |
| 21:23.39 | benklop | i dont want to restart, because kontact is hung sending an important email |
| 21:23.43 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: that's where ksysguard gets it localhost sensor tree |
| 21:23.46 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: :/ |
| 21:23.55 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: hmm |
| 21:23.55 | Tm_T | Heh, kdetalk.net && anonsvn.kde.org are bit lost. |
| 21:24.16 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: I don't know sorry - something is indeed b0rked ;-/ |
| 21:24.39 | benklop | JohnFlux_: i dont get anything from that command but the normal "this is ksysguard version ## copyright gpl stuff |
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| 21:25.22 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: *blinks* |
| 21:25.25 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: say what |
| 21:25.35 | benklop | oh, and the command hung |
| 21:25.43 | benklop | i cnt ctrl-C it |
| 21:25.47 | benklop | cant |
| 21:25.47 | JohnFlux_ | benklop:hung? hmmmmmm |
| 21:26.15 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: the last line that you see is "the GNU GPL version 2. See http://www.kde.org for details." |
| 21:26.15 | JohnFlux_ | ? |
| 21:26.22 | benklop | yes |
| 21:26.24 | JohnFlux_ | or do you see: "ksysguardd>" |
| 21:26.56 | benklop | no, all i see is 5 lines, ending in "the GNU GPL version 2. See http://www.kde.org for details." |
| 21:27.21 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: that program uses libc and nothing else at all |
| 21:27.23 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: it's pure c |
| 21:27.34 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: it's impossible that it crashed :P |
| 21:27.41 | benklop | are you saying my libc is screwed up? |
| 21:27.51 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: or you have bad memory |
| 21:28.06 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: might be worth running memtest86 |
| 21:28.13 | benklop | well well, isnt this fun |
| 21:28.25 | JohnFlux_ | course you'll have to reboot for that :( |
| 21:28.29 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: not at all |
| 21:29.02 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: the program also uses /proc, so maybe its the kernel that's bad or something |
| 21:29.39 | benklop | i'll try to ls /proc |
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| 21:30.00 | JohnFlux_ | benklop: it also uses /proc/*/stat |
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| 21:31.09 | benklop | things in /proc seem to exist and i can cat them |
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| 21:32.04 | benklop | that existes too |
| 21:32.42 | benklop | thing i dont get is that bad memory should affect more than just a few things, and it shouldnt affect those things consistantly |
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| 21:34.25 | lockd | oh and libxslt is used in kde 'equery d libxslt' shows kdelibs depends on it |
| 21:35.07 | PhilRod | yes it does |
| 21:35.28 | PhilRod | for building docs, at least. probably for other stuff too |
| 21:36.05 | lockd | PhilRod: so does that mean it's an error on a particular site when i can't use an XSL document? |
| 21:36.10 | benklop | JohnFlux_: is there anything else i should run nd test? nano runs, i think thats a c app... |
| 21:36.38 | benklop | the other question:are there any memory testers i can run witthout rtebooting |
| 21:36.41 | PhilRod | lockd: if you mean "does konqueror support running XSLT on arbitrary XML?" I think the answer is no |
| 21:37.29 | lockd | PhilRod: well it's not arbitrary... |
| 21:38.21 | PhilRod | well, I mean, I don't think konqueror supports using XSLT to transform XML pages directly. You'd have to check in #khtml or #kde-devel to be certain though |
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| 21:42.50 | Kyral_ | ...anyone get Bluetooth working with KBluetoothd on ArchLinux? |
| 21:43.02 | Kyral_ | (Or how to force a device into discovery mode) |
| 21:43.10 | qupada | Kyral_: bluez 3.x ? |
| 21:43.26 | Kyral_ | qupada: I have bluez 3.x |
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| 21:44.30 | qupada | Kyral_: ok, there's some long, complicated command to do it, lemme find it for you |
| 21:44.35 | Kyral_ | qupada: Ty |
| 21:44.57 | Kyral_ | I know they are seeing each other, because I can try to connect, but when I go to pair it in my phone, it never shows up |
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| 21:46.05 | Kyral_ | (Nevermind I cannot get it to finish connecting in the first place) |
| 21:46.13 | qupada | ok. in device { } in hcid.conf you need to add "discovto 0;". will ensure once the pc is discoverable it stays discoverable forever |
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| 21:47.15 | Kyral_ | and then just restart the Bluetooth services? |
| 21:47.39 | qupada | well yes, but there is one more command |
| 21:47.46 | qupada | which i will have in just a second |
| 21:47.55 | Kyral_ | ah ty |
| 21:48.19 | qupada | "dbus-send --system --dest=org.bluez /org/bluez/hci0 org.bluez.Adapter.SetMode |
| 21:48.22 | qupada | string:discoverable" |
| 21:48.26 | qupada | that's all one command |
| 21:49.17 | qupada | that should hopefully set the pc to discoverable mode, and the extra line you just added to hcid.conf should ensure it stays |
| 21:50.00 | Kyral_ | YEA!! |
| 21:50.05 | Kyral_ | Thanks qupada :D |
| 21:50.16 | Kyral_ | ..someone put that in a Wiki someplace.. |
| 21:51.43 | Kyral_ | Now how to make it like the profile... |
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| 21:52.29 | qupada | what are you actually trying to acheieve with this bluetooth connection? |
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| 21:52.58 | Kyral_ | Transfer pics from my camera phone :D |
| 21:53.11 | qupada | ah, that shouldn't be too much trouble then |
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| 21:53.43 | Kyral_ | Except Samsung seems to have disowned my model |
| 21:54.03 | qupada | if you use the 'send' command on your phone (OBEX push) the pc should pop up a small progress dialogue box and ask you where to save the file |
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| 21:54.56 | PhilRod | can anyone reproduce http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=139666 ? |
| 21:54.59 | qupada | otherwise, the preferred method is probably to browse to the phone from bluetooth:/ and see if it supports the "obex file transfer" profile, which should let you browse the contents of the phone's memory as a folder |
| 21:56.04 | lockd | PhilRod: i have figured out that the best way to do it would be use xsltproc |
| 21:56.56 | PhilRod | lockd: to do it locally, yes |
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| 21:57.46 | Kyral_ | hmm I need to set it to SSP |
| 21:57.49 | Kyral_ | err |
| 21:57.49 | Kyral_ | SPP |
| 21:57.56 | qupada | SDP? |
| 21:58.13 | Kyral_ | Serial Port Profile |
| 21:58.18 | qupada | oh, that one |
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| 21:58.37 | lockd | PhilRod: do i need to make an xsltproc kioslave? |
| 21:58.53 | lockd | PhilRod: or a proc kioslave or something? |
| 21:59.10 | Kyral_ | qupada: Lemme guess I put it somplace in hcid.conf? |
| 21:59.49 | qupada | Kyral_: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 21:59.55 | qupada | Kyral_: i lost you somewhere there |
| 22:00.05 | Kyral_ | Configure the USB Dongle to use the SPP profile |
| 22:00.12 | Kyral_ | (Phone isn't like it otherwise) |
| 22:00.22 | PhilRod | lockd: I don't know. What are you trying to achieve? |
| 22:00.59 | lockd | PhilRod: i'm trying to process a document before i render it in Konqueror |
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| 22:01.11 | lockd | PhilRod: since khtml doesn't support XSLT |
| 22:01.32 | qupada | Kyral_: this is my phone's service list. if you open bluetooth:/ in konq, then when it discovers your phone double click it, you should get something similar http://img292.imageshack.us/img292/4303/bluetoothav0.png |
| 22:02.04 | Kyral_ | yanno this would help if I was at my desktop :D |
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| 22:02.07 | PhilRod | lockd: is the document local or remote? do you want to process it when you click on it? |
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| 22:02.15 | Kyral_ | (Laptop is running Flux. Desktop no have NetConn) |
| 22:02.17 | qupada | Kyral_: if you have the profile i have there called "OBEX File Transfer", you can double click it and browse the contents of the phone like that, just drag and drop items to your filesystem |
| 22:02.26 | lockd | PhilRod: it's remote, generated from a PHP |
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| 22:02.46 | lockd | PhilRod: i want to process it when i click a link, and not worry about typing in the kioslave every time |
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| 22:03.08 | PhilRod | lockd: I guess you can change the file association for .xml files. Make it open with a script that does the following: |
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| 22:03.26 | lockd | PhilRod: it's not an association |
| 22:03.37 | PhilRod | 1. run "xsltproc -o foo.html somexsltfile.xsl $1" |
| 22:03.43 | PhilRod | 2. "konqueror foo.html" |
| 22:03.58 | lockd | PhilRod: and .xml means nothing, it has to listen to the <?xml- stuff |
| 22:04.02 | PhilRod | it's a workaround, not a fix, but could do some of hat you want |
| 22:04.10 | PhilRod | oh, harder then |
| 22:04.17 | lockd | PhilRod: i did that |
| 22:04.22 | PhilRod | I guess you'd have to put some hook in konq or khtml |
| 22:04.28 | lockd | PhilRod: is patching konq feasible? |
| 22:04.56 | PhilRod | first thing to check would be writing a konq plugin - take a look at the existing ones to see how they work |
| 22:05.06 | James-S | evening KDE'ers |
| 22:05.15 | PhilRod | I think that's the only documentation there is |
| 22:05.20 | PhilRod | hi James-S |
| 22:05.25 | lockd | PhilRod: what surprises me is that it's not been done, even after 6 years |
| 22:06.41 | PhilRod | lockd: *shrug* I guess no one wanted it enough to write it |
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| 22:06.56 | dcorbin | Anybody want to help me with my "modifiers"? |
| 22:07.11 | dcorbin | KDE is not recongizing my WIN key. |
| 22:07.20 | PhilRod | dcorbin: see the faq |
| 22:07.34 | dcorbin | PhilRod: which FAQ? |
| 22:07.59 | PhilRod | *the* faq (see topic) |
| 22:08.11 | dcorbin | ah. |
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| 22:08.38 | PhilRod | more seriously though, there's konqueror bug triage going on in #kde-bugs, and everyone can help |
| 22:08.40 | James-S | We attack at dawn :-P |
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| 22:11.07 | dcorbin | PhilRod: I haven't read the ENTIRE faq, but it chap5 makes it sound like it should default to behaving as a modifier. But mine does not work that way. |
| 22:11.21 | liam_ | Hello, how do i get the home folder onto the desktop, i have been into knquerer and drag and dropped but it only puts the folder on the desktop |
| 22:12.04 | PhilRod | liam_: make a "link to application" that runs "kfmclient openProfile filemanagement" |
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| 22:13.39 | liam_ | ok |
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| 22:13.52 | liam_ | and will that make the home folder then? |
| 22:14.00 | logixoul | liam_: what PhilRod, or even easier: drag&drop your home folder on the desktop and choose "link here" |
| 22:14.02 | liam_ | i want it with the actual icon aswell |
| 22:14.18 | liam_ | i want the icon to be the house |
| 22:14.24 | logixoul | s/what PhilRod/what PhilRod said/ |
| 22:14.35 | logixoul | apt: wake up |
| 22:14.37 | apt | ACTION throws a barrel-full of ice water on up and shouts "GOOD MORNING!!!!" |
| 22:15.23 | logixoul | liam_: you can always set the icon to anything once you've got the link working ;) |
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| 22:17.16 | PhilRod | lol@apt |
| 22:17.43 | dcorbin | PhilRod: When I go to the keyboard shortcuts in the control center, it says "Win <None>" |
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| 22:18.21 | James-S | This is very very curious indeed |
| 22:18.27 | PhilRod | dcorbin: what (in the long run) are you trying to do? |
| 22:18.31 | James-S | How the heck did bibletime get installed on my KDE |
| 22:18.53 | James-S | Does this mean i'm a bishop? |
| 22:19.27 | dcorbin | Previously, I had various short-cut keys with the WIN modifier tied to application shortcuts (WIN+K) to launch konsole. Somehow, I've mucked that up. |
| 22:19.39 | logixoul | hey everybody: in konq 3.5.5 when you enter something in the searchbar and press enter, does the text remain there? |
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| 22:21.02 | logixoul | dcorbin: you want win alone to open kmenu AND you want win to be usable as a modifier? |
| 22:21.15 | dcorbin | no, I don't care about win opening kmenu. |
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| 22:21.30 | logixoul | dcorbin: so what exactly is your problem again? |
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| 22:22.30 | dcorbin | logixoul: WIN+K is treated as 'k', rather than invoking konsole. The control-center indicates Win is not an X11-modifier. |
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| 22:23.06 | liam_ | when you install and icon themes |
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| 22:23.13 | liam_ | where are all the icons kept? |
| 22:23.17 | Kyral_ | qupada: Thanks for teh help. My phone doesn't support OBEX, but at least I can use it as a Dial-up modem in a pinch :D |
| 22:23.18 | liam_ | or stored? |
| 22:23.19 | raz0r | hell0o ;D |
| 22:24.13 | qupada | Kyral_: well that's a start. how about OBEX in the other direction. using the "send" command on the phone and having the pc recieve it |
| 22:24.33 | Kyral_ | qupada: Phone refuses to connect to PC |
| 22:24.43 | Kyral_ | Says only the PC can connect |
| 22:24.44 | logixoul | dcorbin: in the northwest combobox in kcontrol->regional->keyboard shortcuts select "kde default with 4 mods" |
| 22:25.00 | logixoul | liam_: what distro/os? |
| 22:25.11 | Kyral_ | (Which is why I was thinking about messing with the class field in hcid.conf) |
| 22:25.12 | raz0r | how can i use floating icons at the desktop with XGL ?? |
| 22:25.22 | qupada | Kyral_: hmmm, sounds like one of those cases where the operator has disabled something in the firmware |
| 22:25.27 | logixoul | raz0r: define floating |
| 22:25.36 | liam_ | kubuntu |
| 22:25.38 | raz0r | define floating ?? |
| 22:25.49 | logixoul | raz0r: what do you mean when you say floating? |
| 22:25.53 | dcorbin | logixoul: it says the Win modifier key si not available on my system. |
| 22:25.53 | Kyral_ | qupada: Then WTF is the function of the "PC Connection" setting in the phone lol |
| 22:25.55 | liam_ | i have installed a new icon theme, but when i come to change an icon the one i want isnt therre |
| 22:25.58 | raz0r | yes, i am n00b at linux ;D |
| 22:25.59 | liam_ | so i need to find the pathj |
| 22:26.03 | Kyral_ | I do hate providers sometimes |
| 22:26.42 | logixoul | raz0r: i don't care. will you answer my question? |
| 22:26.57 | logixoul | liam_: ask at #kubuntu |
| 22:27.18 | raz0r | like some icons at the desktop...when im holding the mouse over the one to the left the icons will "spin" ;D |
| 22:27.20 | raz0r | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cz_2vKq5cZk |
| 22:27.23 | raz0r | watch it ;D |
| 22:27.28 | raz0r | and youll see |
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| 22:28.25 | qupada | Kyral_: yeah. too right. i don't mind my phone, but then i paid a lot of money for it, so i would expect it to be good. fortunately i bought mine from an outlet that doesn't deal in 'operator-customised' phones |
| 22:28.51 | logixoul | raz0r: ask at #xgl please |
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| 22:29.03 | dcorbin | *Somewhere* there is a mapping between KDE modifiers and x11 modifiers. But I don't know where... |
| 22:29.42 | logixoul | dcorbin: could you check for weirdness with xev |
| 22:30.10 | Kyral_ | qupada: Eh, at least I have the Bluetooth dongle configured now :D |
| 22:30.11 | dcorbin | logixoul: if you can clarify "check for wierdness". I run xev, and it recognizes the key as code 115 |
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| 22:31.37 | logixoul | dcorbin: xev | grep Super |
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| 22:32.26 | dcorbin | I'm getting nothing that matches 'Super' |
| 22:33.13 | logixoul | dcorbin: what is the exact xev output when you press win? |
| 22:33.43 | dcorbin | logixoul: without the Super? Hang on and I'll paste it... |
| 22:33.58 | logixoul | yep, without the grep |
| 22:35.46 | dcorbin | logixoul: Here's the relavant part. All I did was press WIN once, and then close xev. http://rafb.net/p/aLflUx83.html |
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| 22:36.40 | IamEthos | for some reason, none of my KDE notifications are working anymore |
| 22:36.55 | dcorbin | logixoul: Well I may have it working now. I'm going to restart X and I'll report back. |
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| 22:40.37 | dcorbin | logixoul: Well, I made it work using xmodmap, but my xmodmap changes are not being loaded on restart. |
| 22:41.11 | dcorbin | When I login via kdm, my ~/.xsession file should get run, right? |
| 22:41.16 | logixoul | dcorbin: create ~/.kde/env/win-key.sh and add the xmodmap command you used previously there |
| 22:41.26 | logixoul | dcorbin: xsession might work too |
| 22:41.42 | dcorbin | .xsession is not working. I'll try the win-key |
| 22:42.02 | logixoul | (the filename is irrelevant btw) |
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| 22:43.51 | dcorbin | logixoul: that works. Thanks very much. |
| 22:44.07 | logixoul | dcorbin: np, and try the faq next time ;) |
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| 22:45.08 | dcorbin | logixoul: I did look at the FAQ. It tells you how to make an 'action key', not how to make it a modifier. |
| 22:45.35 | dcorbin | but I suppose it does have 'run at startup' information there. |
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| 22:53.22 | Wikipedia-Gast | I want to ask a question |
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| 22:54.09 | pinotree | just ask |
| 22:54.13 | MetaBookfoziS | we want to donat ask about ask. |
| 22:54.20 | Wikipedia-Gast | what should I ask? |
| 22:54.21 | MetaBookfoziS | a- |
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| 22:56.17 | Wikipedia-Gast | I want to ask a question |
| 22:56.30 | PhilRod | you can't. Questions are forbidden here |
| 22:56.41 | PhilRod | only statements are allowed |
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| 22:56.59 | Wikipedia-Gast | why¨$ |
| 22:57.11 | FFIXXX | hi running kde 3.55 I wondered is it possible to make konsole transparent |
| 22:57.28 | FFIXXX | i mean real transparency not fake |
| 22:57.40 | Wikipedia-Gast | FFIXXXX sucks |
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| 22:58.15 | FFIXXX | got anything helpful to say? |
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| 22:58.20 | PhilRod | sorry 'bout that |
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| 22:58.35 | FFIXXX | that okay :) |
| 22:58.46 | PhilRod | FFIXXX: with kompmgr you can make the whole konsole window translucent |
| 22:58.54 | PhilRod | you can't make just part of it translucent |
| 22:58.58 | FFIXXX | canit be run with beryl? |
| 22:59.06 | PhilRod | (in the way that the fake transparency does) |
| 22:59.12 | FFIXXX | oh okay |
| 22:59.15 | PhilRod | hrm, possibly. I don't know about beryl, sorry |
| 22:59.16 | FFIXXX | too bad :( |
| 22:59.26 | FFIXXX | thanks anyway |
| 23:00.24 | PhilRod | np |
| 23:00.46 | PhilRod | hang around for a bit though - there are plenty of people here who know more about eyecandy than me |
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| 23:00.58 | FFIXXX | :) |
| 23:01.30 | canllaith | FFIXXX: why would you run kompmgr and beryl? |
| 23:01.37 | FFIXXX | i am not |
| 23:01.39 | canllaith | Or am I misunderstanding. If the question is, can you run KDE with beryl, yes, yes you can. |
| 23:01.48 | Kasyx | Like I am just now :-) |
| 23:01.55 | FFIXXX | i just wanted true transparency |
| 23:02.01 | canllaith | Definitely use beryl for it |
| 23:02.06 | Kasyx | FFIXXX: it would break |
| 23:02.08 | FFIXXX | seen lots of screenshots |
| 23:02.09 | canllaith | It's stable and fast. |
| 23:02.23 | Kasyx | FFIXXX: I've been trying to find a work around, haven't got it yet. Although compiz seems to have true transparencey |
| 23:02.34 | FFIXXX | beryl too |
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| 23:02.37 | canllaith | Really? Beryl has been fine for me. |
| 23:02.46 | qupada | make sure you get aquamarine though, so your beryl/kde system still looks like kde, rather than emerald's ugliness |
| 23:02.53 | FFIXXX | but it makes the window borders and controls and letter go away too |
| 23:02.58 | canllaith | aquamarine is slower than just beryl on some chipsets |
| 23:03.05 | Kasyx | FFIXXX: thats a bug |
| 23:03.23 | canllaith | http://flickr.com/photo_zoom.gne?id=342331070&size=l |
| 23:03.30 | canllaith | So I'm using beryl tweaked to match kubuntu colours |
| 23:03.48 | canllaith | or at least was, until kubuntu drove me too insane. I will install suse 10.2 later today. |
| 23:04.09 | qupada | yeah, admittedly aquamarine is a little slower and a bit less stable, but it looks a whole lot nicer |
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| 23:04.40 | FFIXXX | me i prefer emerald :p |
| 23:04.50 | FFIXXX | never been a fan of kde themes |
| 23:04.51 | qupada | how well does 3d stuff run on that sony TX series laptop you have canllaith? |
| 23:05.01 | PhilRod | FFIXXX: see? I told you these guys 'n girls know about eyecandy :-) |
| 23:05.07 | FFIXXX | yup |
| 23:05.29 | FFIXXX | it's the new craze in linux |
| 23:05.46 | FFIXXX | forget about command line pretty desktops we want |
| 23:05.52 | canllaith | qupada: flawlessly. |
| 23:06.02 | FFIXXX | xp makes me puke because of it ugliness now |
| 23:06.04 | canllaith | It's fast and stable. *very* fast, even though it's weak intel graphics. |
| 23:06.06 | thechris | Where is the option to turn off the large tooltips when you move your mouse over the kmenu? |
| 23:06.21 | canllaith | thechris: Right click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Appearance |
| 23:06.32 | canllaith | under General 'Enable icon mouseover effects' |
| 23:06.33 | thechris | thank you |
| 23:06.36 | canllaith | yw |
| 23:06.53 | qupada | canllaith: yeah, but the driver is quality isn't it? intel written but fully open sourced |
| 23:06.54 | canllaith | I am currently installing ati binary drivers on my work laptop to try and get beryl working under suse 10.1 there <grin> |
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| 23:07.02 | canllaith | qupada: Yes, the driver is excellent. |
| 23:08.34 | qupada | i have to say i've been eyeing one of those laptops for a long time |
| 23:08.53 | Kasyx | qupada: ewww no |
| 23:08.57 | Kasyx | qupada: I tried it, it broke everything. You can forget themes with rounded corners for a start |
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| 23:10.08 | qupada | wouldn't use one anyone |
| 23:10.11 | qupada | anyway* |
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| 23:10.29 | canllaith | qupada: It's beautiful, I have no idea how I survived without 7 hours battery life and ultraportable size before. |
| 23:10.38 | canllaith | and the screen is a thing of beauty, makes me cry to then use my work thinkpad |
| 23:10.38 | qupada | Kasyx: rounded corners are about the worst idea in the history anyway |
| 23:12.09 | qupada | i took an ubuntu livecd into a noel leeming (i think it was) store to ask if i could see how well linux worked on one (think it was a tx27, was a while ago), but the bastards wouldn't let me because it "might cause damage to the system". damn they're ignorant |
| 23:12.32 | qupada | now that i'm somewhere with a sony store i might have to see if they're a little more obliging |
| 23:13.39 | canllaith | I just bought it, assuming that with mostly intel stuff inside it would work at least ok |
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| 23:14.05 | canllaith | If you get the one I have, the core solo with intel everything, then everything works good under dapper |
| 23:14.11 | canllaith | and under edgy mostly, but they broke suspend. |
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| 23:14.59 | thechris | i just switched back to gentoo from kubuntu. with the exception of the long compiles, i'm happy. |
| 23:15.14 | canllaith | kubuntu drives me nuts at the moment. |
| 23:15.16 | qupada | i'd probably be putting gentoo on it anyway, using distcc on this amd64 machine |
| 23:15.17 | canllaith | I'll go back to suse at home |
| 23:16.22 | thechris | i got beryl and aiglx working pretty quick in gentoo. its neat |
| 23:16.31 | thechris | even in kde, its still really neat |
| 23:16.57 | FFIXXX | no probs for me |
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| 23:17.55 | canllaith | I don't like the forced 6 month release cycle. A lot of broken things end up shipping that could really have done with more polishing. |
| 23:17.56 | FFIXXX | hey i'll probably get flamed for this but is their a way to make kde use gtk+2.0 themes? |
| 23:18.07 | canllaith | No, there isn't. Have you seen Qtcurve though? You can make it look like clearlooks, and it will theme your gnome apps to match |
| 23:18.08 | thechris | use the themes or the dialogs? |
| 23:18.24 | FFIXXX | themes |
| 23:18.41 | FFIXXX | i want kde to use the ubuntulooks engine |
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| 23:19.04 | thechris | they've got something like that in emerald |
| 23:19.04 | FFIXXX | or i'd be happy with a kde style like that but havent found it yet.... |
| 23:19.15 | FFIXXX | yeah window borders |
| 23:19.29 | FFIXXX | but not widgets and stuff |
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| 23:19.38 | Rejia | hi! |
| 23:19.56 | Rejia | is there already a good-working windows port from KDE ? |
| 23:20.26 | thechris | my guess is no, given the length of time that qt4 went stable |
| 23:22.23 | PhilRod | Rejia: only kde 4 is being ported to windows, and kde 4 is not near ready, so no |
| 23:22.26 | Q-collective | thechris: hmm? |
| 23:22.37 | Q-collective | Qt4 has been stable for some time now |
| 23:23.09 | thechris | hmm, now that you mention it. |
| 23:23.09 | drizztbsd | qt is stabler than wxgtk |
| 23:23.10 | Q-collective | Rejia: if you must, you can try kde3 on cygwin :-) |
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| 23:24.00 | Rejia | Q-collective, will KDE3 on cygwin be slow? |
| 23:24.07 | Q-collective | drizztbsd: almost anything is really |
| 23:24.17 | Q-collective | Rejia: dunno, never tried it |
| 23:25.21 | pusling | hmm... is there some konqueror javascript debugging tool ? |
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