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| 00:02.03 | victor- | what's the most recommended way of getting usb devices to automount? hal+pmount? |
| 00:02.23 | thiago | KDE can be configured to mount them if you're using hal |
| 00:02.38 | victor- | i'm using hal.. but i can't figure out how to get KDE to do it. :\ |
| 00:03.51 | thiago | did you compile your own KDE? |
| 00:03.57 | victor- | yeah |
| 00:04.24 | thiago | make sure you have libhal's development files and libdbus-qt-1's installed |
| 00:04.34 | thiago | it'll detect them automatically and enable HAL integration |
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| 00:14.50 | JohnFlux | Hey all |
| 00:14.54 | JohnFlux | http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/5048/sensorload16lz6.png |
| 00:15.08 | JohnFlux | what do you guys think of the bold in the command? |
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| 00:15.15 | JohnFlux | I'm not sure how best to code this |
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| 00:16.11 | thiago | what bold? |
| 00:16.35 | JohnFlux | see in the Command ? |
| 00:16.41 | JohnFlux | uh |
| 00:16.45 | JohnFlux | opps, uploaded wrong pictue! |
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| 00:18.03 | JohnFlux | http://img184.imageshack.us/img184/2601/sensorload18zk5.png |
| 00:18.06 | JohnFlux | thiago: ^ |
| 00:18.07 | JohnFlux | :-) |
| 00:18.57 | thiago | I'd say it's unnecessary |
| 00:19.04 | thiago | the name is already on the leftmost columns |
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| 00:19.40 | JohnFlux | hmm |
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| 00:19.58 | JohnFlux | i like the idea but I don't like how much it stands out |
| 00:20.11 | JohnFlux | maybe making the rest of the text grey or something instead |
| 00:20.52 | thiago | unnecessary eye-candy in my opinion |
| 00:21.03 | thiago | too much complexity in the code for too little gain |
| 00:21.18 | JohnFlux | actually complexity is about 10 lines |
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| 00:21.19 | bline | Why is it bold, or not greyed as the case my be? |
| 00:21.21 | mikk36|lap | hey :) |
| 00:21.28 | mikk36|lap | where could i get support for quanta ? |
| 00:21.42 | JohnFlux | bline: where the name matches in the command |
| 00:21.47 | JohnFlux | bline: it makes bold |
| 00:22.04 | thiago | JohnFlux: are you using QRegExp? |
| 00:22.52 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.52 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.52 | JohnFlux | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:23.04 | JohnFlux | pretty straight forward |
| 00:23.45 | thiago | that's 4 mallocs |
| 00:24.06 | thiago | plus it turns on rich-text processing in Qt |
| 00:24.06 | JohnFlux | yeah |
| 00:24.22 | JohnFlux | i'm just kinda playing about |
| 00:24.28 | JohnFlux | that's why i'm in here ;-) |
| 00:24.35 | thiago | well, you've got my opinion |
| 00:24.53 | JohnFlux | i was thinking that it would allow me to merge the two columns |
| 00:24.55 | thiago | it's not like this would have a huge performance impact anyways... |
| 00:25.16 | JohnFlux | i've tried it though but it looks messy |
| 00:26.23 | bline | You could always add: View -> [ ] Bold command |
| 00:26.26 | bline | to the menus |
| 00:27.28 | JohnFlux | bline: :/ |
| 00:27.52 | JohnFlux | hmm |
| 00:27.57 | JohnFlux | oh well, it was worth a try |
| 00:28.00 | bline | Atleast it becomes optional |
| 00:28.08 | thiago | bline: that would be even more overkill |
| 00:28.30 | mikk36|lap | help ? |
| 00:28.42 | bline | shrugs |
| 00:28.52 | thiago | mikk36|lap: you haven't asked your question |
| 00:28.58 | mikk36|lap | i have |
| 00:29.07 | mikk36|lap | <mikk36|lap> where could i get support for quanta ? |
| 00:29.09 | thiago | you asked where you can get help. That's a "meta-question". |
| 00:29.15 | thiago | that's like asking if you can ask a question. |
| 00:29.20 | mikk36|lap | well... ok |
| 00:29.20 | thiago | just ask what you want to know. |
| 00:29.28 | mikk36|lap | i have a problem with quanta and ftp |
| 00:29.53 | mikk36|lap | it doesn't seem to like dots in the username |
| 00:30.16 | mikk36|lap | konq works fine, quanta not |
| 00:32.18 | mikk36|lap | also, even if it seems a meta question, u could answer 'here' |
| 00:32.55 | thiago | it really depended on the question |
| 00:33.04 | thiago | Quanta uses the same backend for FTP as Konqueror |
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| 00:33.12 | mikk36|lap | exactly |
| 00:33.13 | thiago | does it give you an error message? |
| 00:33.20 | mikk36|lap | i found that out by reading the bugs list |
| 00:34.11 | mikk36|lap | it says it's not possible to enter / folder |
| 00:34.34 | mikk36|lap | sry if a bit wrong, i'm on estonian here (oops @ setup) |
| 00:35.54 | mikk36|lap | doesn't work with ftp://user:pass@host and neither ftp://user@host with a dialog |
| 00:36.11 | mikk36|lap | although it reads the username correctly from address (displays it in dialog) |
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| 00:36.39 | shampoonator | hi guys |
| 00:36.53 | shampoonator | i got a little program.. i switched from gnome to kde |
| 00:37.08 | thiago | mikk36|lap: I don't know... |
| 00:37.18 | shampoonator | and kde seems to work buuuuuuuuut.. i can't open a terminal :( |
| 00:37.25 | mikk36|lap | so.. is there a specific quanta channel ? |
| 00:37.26 | thiago | mikk36|lap: I'd need some debugging output to understand what is going wrong, but I believe the problem is in Quanta |
| 00:37.31 | thiago | mikk36|lap: so, try #quanta |
| 00:37.32 | shampoonator | its justshowing the waiting cursor, but nothing happens |
| 00:38.18 | thiago | shampoonator: konsole? |
| 00:38.24 | JohnFlux | shampoonator: a waiting cursor? |
| 00:38.28 | JohnFlux | oh |
| 00:38.46 | JohnFlux | shampoonator: you run konsole, and the window shows which is black, and has no text inside |
| 00:38.46 | shampoonator | terminal bash |
| 00:38.47 | shampoonator | console |
| 00:38.49 | shampoonator | whatever :) |
| 00:38.58 | JohnFlux | shampoonator: right? |
| 00:39.16 | shampoonator | JohnFlux, no .. just no window appears |
| 00:39.27 | thiago | shampoonator: try opening another terminal program |
| 00:39.32 | mikk36|lap | #quanta here in freenode is empty (with a 110+ hours idle time bot in it) |
| 00:39.33 | JohnFlux | shampoonator: press alt+f2 and type in konsole |
| 00:39.40 | JohnFlux | shampoonator: does that work? |
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| 00:39.53 | shampoonator | mmh yes |
| 00:40.03 | thiago | it does? |
| 00:40.11 | shampoonator | alt +2 wow :D lol |
| 00:40.17 | shampoonator | alt +f2 |
| 00:40.24 | shampoonator | yes i got my konsole :) |
| 00:40.33 | thiago | check your menu configuration. The Terminal entry is pointing to an invalid command. |
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| 00:43.58 | shampoonator | lol it was trying to start gnome terminal >< |
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| 00:51.26 | shampoonator | thx :) |
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| 00:55.18 | mikk36|lap | k, bug filed :) |
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| 00:59.42 | Shirakawasuna | I'm aware that aiglx/beryl stuff isn't a kde problem, but does anyone in here use it? |
| 01:00.27 | mikk36|lap | would use aiglx, if i852GM would be supported |
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| 01:00.45 | mikk36|lap | sadly the driver says it doesn't support many stuff |
| 01:01.38 | Shirakawasuna | wow, i852gm is newer than I've known about |
| 01:01.48 | Shirakawasuna | brand new laptop/desktop? |
| 01:02.05 | Shirakawasuna | worry not, my intel stuff was supported sooner than I was expecting so far as linux graphics stuff goes |
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| 01:07.32 | HaMBoNE79 | Does anyone know of a program for KDE that is similar to gkrellm? I have already looked at Superkaramba, but it is still missing quite a few features |
| 01:07.42 | mikk36|lap | ? @ shinjii_ |
| 01:07.46 | mikk36|lap | Shirakawasuna, * |
| 01:08.08 | mikk36|lap | 9xx is the newer series |
| 01:08.13 | mikk36|lap | 8xx is years old already |
| 01:08.37 | mikk36|lap | and my laptop is over 2 years old |
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| 01:09.17 | Dhraakellian | is it possible to change the keyboard layout on the fly with KDM or GDM? |
| 01:09.39 | Dhraakellian | ideally, what I'd like for a login manager is a dialog like that of the password dialog in kscreensaver |
| 01:09.56 | Dhraakellian | where it lets me change the keyboard layout |
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| 01:22.37 | Shirakawasuna | mikk36|lap: whoops, sorry |
| 01:22.44 | Shirakawasuna | mikk36|lap: that's not supported? |
| 01:22.55 | mikk36|lap | well, i did not see any change |
| 01:23.06 | Shirakawasuna | me either, that's what I'mw orking on ;) |
| 01:23.12 | mikk36|lap | also checked the log |
| 01:23.17 | Shirakawasuna | ah |
| 01:23.23 | Shirakawasuna | did you get some <EE>s? |
| 01:23.27 | mikk36|lap | and it showed about 15 unsupported effects |
| 01:23.44 | Shirakawasuna | aww |
| 01:23.45 | Shirakawasuna | that's partially an intel thing |
| 01:23.52 | Shirakawasuna | for instance I can't do rain (no pixel shaders) |
| 01:24.03 | Shirakawasuna | what distro? |
| 01:24.08 | mikk36|lap | DX7 graphics core :) |
| 01:24.19 | mikk36|lap | suse 10.2 ofc :) |
| 01:24.29 | mikk36|lap | ahh right, this aint suse channel :D |
| 01:24.50 | mikk36|lap | just installed it 2 days ago |
| 01:25.01 | mikk36|lap | after being away from linux for about 3 months |
| 01:26.08 | Shirakawasuna | ah, ok |
| 01:26.26 | Shirakawasuna | i'm compiling in aiglx support for xorg right now >_< |
| 01:26.39 | mikk36|lap | i945 is partially DX9, it has pixel shaders, but lacks vertex shaders |
| 01:27.26 | mikk36|lap | although, luckily u don't need vertex shaders for UI |
| 01:29.23 | Shirakawasuna | yep |
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| 01:37.14 | mjobin | any other apps than gimp (preferable kde) that reads psd files? |
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| 01:55.36 | duarte | hello all! How do i add a new dicitionary to kmail/kde ? |
| 01:57.06 | duarte | where i can get more info about to add new dics to kmail/kde =_ |
| 01:57.08 | duarte | ? |
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| 02:01.34 | ytoox | I have changed the size of the konqueror windows, but I want it to saty on this new size. Is that possible? |
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| 02:07.50 | ytoox | I have changed the size of the konqueror windows, but I want it to saty on this new size. Is that possible? |
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| 02:08.26 | Jucato | ytoox: Alt+F3 -> Advanced -> Special Window Settings |
| 02:08.41 | ytoox | ok |
| 02:09.09 | Theory | hrm |
| 02:09.45 | ytoox | I dont get anything with altf3 what window does that open? |
| 02:10.08 | Theory | should bring up a menu |
| 02:10.09 | Jucato | ytoox: it pops up a menu. or right-click on the titlebar |
| 02:10.33 | Jucato | presuming you are using KWin as your window manager (and not some Beryl stuff.) |
| 02:11.26 | ytoox | ok |
| 02:12.06 | mjobin | recently, for some reason my KDE applications are not able to display french accent anymore. but if I open vim in Konsole, its ok. /* BALISES G(B?(BN(B?(BRALES */ becomes /* BALISES G(B??(BN(B??(BRALES */ |
| 02:12.33 | ytoox | ok got it |
| 02:12.35 | ytoox | then? |
| 02:13.06 | Jucato | ytoox: enable the [ ] Size option, and from the drop down list beside it, choose which behavior the window should take |
| 02:14.01 | ytoox | I chose "remember" is that good? |
| 02:14.26 | mjobin | ytoox: remember view settings too in konqueror |
| 02:15.01 | ytoox | ok |
| 02:15.09 | Jucato | mjobin: er?? |
| 02:15.43 | Jucato | ytoox: "Remember" will remember the current window size, yes. but I think it will also remember the size of the window before it closes. so if you change the window size before you close it, it will remember the new size |
| 02:16.08 | ytoox | ok, I intend not to change the size after this |
| 02:16.11 | ytoox | thanks |
| 02:16.29 | ytoox | I can't wait for kde4 |
| 02:17.04 | supere | me neither |
| 02:17.39 | ytoox | man, I wonder when we''re getting the first screenshots |
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| 02:21.56 | Jucato | lol |
| 02:22.10 | Jucato | it's not spam... just an annoying /away message... |
| 02:22.29 | Renze | still worthy of punishment |
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| 02:47.45 | Random_Transit | hey, does anyone here use KTorrent? |
| 02:48.05 | wmind | I do |
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| 02:49.14 | Random_Transit | ok, have you ever used Tor?? |
| 02:50.16 | wmind | KTorrent was the only client I used |
| 02:50.22 | Random_Transit | lol |
| 02:50.23 | Random_Transit | no |
| 02:50.30 | Random_Transit | Tor, the anonymization software |
| 02:50.34 | Random_Transit | i |
| 02:50.46 | Random_Transit | i'm just trying to figure out how to get it working with KTorrent |
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| 02:50.48 | wmind | ah as you can see... never |
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| 02:51.05 | Random_Transit | because my ISP is trying to throttle packets from BitTorrent |
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| 03:32.35 | whatsup103 | anyone here got expericne with vmware |
| 03:32.36 | whatsup103 | ? |
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| 04:06.43 | gnychis | I have dragged two clips into my kden live project on my timeline, one is video, one is audio... in my preview window when i click play, it only shows one of these, how can i get it to show them merged? aka, listen to the audio with the video so i can sync them? |
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| 04:26.55 | duarte | hi all! |
| 04:26.58 | duarte | how can i sync kdepim with scheduleworkd (via syncml) ? |
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| 04:28.51 | duarte | how do i get calendar info trhought syncml = |
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| 04:30.56 | duarte | HELLLLLOOO!!! Wake UP!!!! |
| 04:32.19 | Renze | duarte: try #kontact |
| 04:32.21 | knoppix | hello |
| 04:32.38 | StarScream | duarte: hello |
| 04:33.22 | StarScream | duarte: you might like to try opensync.. with its kde bindings |
| 04:33.35 | StarScream | afaik its all in kde4 but obviously thats not released |
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| 04:34.58 | StarScream | http://www.opensync.org |
| 04:35.03 | duarte | Renze: thanks |
| 04:35.23 | Renze | no problem |
| 04:38.25 | duarte | StarScream: i'm trying kitchensync and opensync under opensuse 10.2, but i don't find any information about sync. I configured a group and member (syncml http server) but the link "syncronize now" doesn't work... :( |
| 04:39.53 | StarScream | duarte: i have been meaning to try it out for a while but haven't gotten around to it. You might like to check out the opensync mailing list. Post your question to the list and i am sure someone on the list will be able to help. |
| 04:42.40 | mjobin | noatun and amarok are sooo buggy, its unbelievable |
| 04:43.53 | Renze | maybe on your distro |
| 04:46.43 | gnychis | does anyone know how to copy a piece of a clip and paste it somewhere else in kdenlive without cutting it and moving it? I want to duplicate a piece of a clip |
| 04:47.29 | StarScream | mjobin: i agree with noatun but amarok 1.4.2+ has been solid as a rock for me.. what feature are you having issues with ? |
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| 04:54.32 | mjobin | playing music |
| 04:55.07 | mjobin | Renze: yeah, all the worlds bugs are distro's fault |
| 04:55.19 | Renze | mjobin: well, amarok is pretty damn solid here |
| 04:55.40 | Renze | mjobin: but yes, most of the problems presented in here are the distro's fault |
| 04:57.59 | Renze | as for noatun - I haven't bothered building that piece of trash for the past three years |
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| 05:03.10 | leetwanker | anyone know how to enable thumbnails on the desktop? |
| 05:05.41 | Jucato | Renze: you have any idea about compiling konqueror from SVN without having to compile all of kdebase? |
| 05:05.46 | Renze | Jucato: nope, I just use releases ;) |
| 05:05.54 | Jucato | hehe ok :) |
| 05:06.10 | Jucato | I thought you'd know, being the source tarball lover :P |
| 05:09.41 | Renze | releases are tarballs :P |
| 05:09.56 | Renze | anywho, time for a shower... it's been hot and muggy today |
| 05:12.28 | Jucato | hehe go go go! :) |
| 05:12.44 | leetwanker | anyone know how to enable thumbnails on the desktop? |
| 05:20.44 | Dhraakellian | grargh |
| 05:21.04 | Dhraakellian | ksnapshot doesn't seem to want to save |
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| 05:29.48 | Jucato | wb Renze, the glass mouse :) |
| 05:30.42 | Renze | I am not a Mac peripheral! |
| 05:30.47 | Jucato | lol |
| 05:30.54 | Jucato | well, you are squeaky and shiny :P |
| 05:31.11 | Renze | no, squeaky clean :P |
| 05:31.42 | Jucato | squeaky, clean, and shiny - clean glass mouse :) |
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| 05:38.34 | Jucato | I'll try to ask again, hoping someone would be able to answer: Is it possible to just build Konqueror from SVN (branch) without building all of kdebase? |
| 05:39.04 | Renze | have you tried asking in #kde-devel? ;) |
| 05:39.12 | Jucato | oh yeah.. right... |
| 05:39.38 | Jucato | but I guess I have to build kdebase anyway, as the particular thing I'm interested in is in kcontrol.. but will show up in Konqueror. funny... |
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| 05:56.08 | bline | Anyone know if there is a kde mysql database administration frontend? |
| 05:56.42 | bline | nm, found one |
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| 05:59.52 | timofonic | Hello |
| 06:00.04 | timofonic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:08.11 | dome | having troubles with the wireless not connecting in Sabayon....I see all wireless connections but it just doesn't allow me to connect...any ideas? |
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| 06:24.43 | illpoof | !pastebin |
| 06:24.44 | illpoof | !ban |
| 06:24.45 | illpoof | !paste |
| 06:25.21 | Jucato | illpoof: look at the channel topic |
| 06:25.34 | illpoof | k |
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| 06:27.19 | illpoof | ok |
| 06:27.58 | illpoof | http://rafb.net/paste/results/TXxQ5s84.html |
| 06:28.02 | illpoof | why i get this error |
| 06:29.22 | Jucato | illpoof: you might get more answers from the Kanotix channel, since it's their package |
| 06:29.35 | illpoof | im banned duno why |
| 06:30.12 | fangarzz | anyone have a clue why gam-server starts eating up cpu cycles for no apparent reason? |
| 06:31.32 | illpoof | ? |
| 06:32.59 | illpoof | well ? |
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| 06:33.22 | fangarzz | well what? |
| 06:33.38 | fangarzz | how are you banned? |
| 06:34.04 | illpoof | 06:23:07] [474] #kanotix You're banned from that channel |
| 06:34.24 | fangarzz | i dunno |
| 06:34.42 | fangarzz | did you flood that channel? |
| 06:34.48 | Jucato | illpoof: if you know an operator from that channel, you could send him/her a message, asking why. other than that, you could wait for someone in here who knows Kanotix or your particular problem... |
| 06:34.51 | illpoof | lol who cares its kde. |
| 06:34.57 | illpoof | i duno know |
| 06:37.25 | Jucato | it might be related to kde. but it's also apparently caused by Kanotix's packages. KDE doesn't package anything. distro's take the source and package them. anyway, like I said, feel free to wait around here. just don't repeat your question every minute or so :) |
| 06:40.02 | illpoof | k |
| 06:40.05 | illpoof | so what now. |
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| 08:19.32 | XVampireX | "Kaffeine begins porting to GStreamer 0.10." |
| 08:19.32 | XVampireX | What would that mean? :P |
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| 08:19.37 | markey | what's unclear about it? |
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| 08:19.40 | Q-collective | just now? |
| 08:20.17 | Q-collective | gstreamer 0.10 has been released for a while now |
| 08:20.18 | XVampireX | No, is that a good move, what would be the difference? |
| 08:20.18 | XVampireX | It's using xine right now |
| 08:20.18 | XVampireX | and will there be options to use either one? |
| 08:20.18 | XVampireX | I really like kaffeine now :P |
| 08:20.19 | Jucato | come KDE 4... it won't matter much... (I hope) |
| 08:20.23 | XVampireX | It's sitting in my tray waiting for my command ;) |
| 08:20.23 | Jucato | must be a long wait... |
| 08:20.24 | XVampireX | Haha |
| 08:20.24 | XVampireX | Is gstreamer any good, though? |
| 08:20.25 | markey | well gstreamer is fairly powerful, yep |
| 08:20.26 | markey | if it is better than xine for video playback, YMMV |
| 08:20.26 | XVampireX | Well, what would improve, than? |
| 08:20.26 | markey | xine is pretty good |
| 08:20.27 | Q-collective | ?? ymmv |
| 08:20.28 | XVampireX | your mileage may vary |
| 08:20.28 | XVampireX | :P |
| 08:20.28 | Q-collective | and that means? |
| 08:20.29 | Q-collective | :> |
| 08:20.30 | Jucato | that means... "your mileage may vary" |
| 08:20.30 | Jucato | :P |
| 08:20.31 | XVampireX | Yup :D |
| 08:20.32 | Q-collective | :\ |
| 08:20.34 | XVampireX | [10:11] <markey> if it is better than xine for video playback, YMMV |
| 08:20.36 | XVampireX | How do you figure, though/ |
| 08:20.37 | XVampireX | ?^ |
| 08:20.38 | Q-collective | I didn't like kaffeine with gstreamer 0.8 |
| 08:20.38 | Q-collective | but maybe 0.10 will be better |
| 08:20.38 | markey | I don't like kaffeine at all :p |
| 08:20.38 | markey | codeine ftw |
| 08:20.39 | Q-collective | tssk :) |
| 08:20.39 | markey | codeine is video done right |
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| 08:20.43 | Q-collective | hmm |
| 08:20.43 | Q-collective | I don't like that interface |
| 08:20.43 | markey | whose? |
| 08:20.43 | Q-collective | but that's just me I guess |
| 08:20.44 | Q-collective | codeine's |
| 08:20.44 | markey | dude, that's interface design in perfection |
| 08:20.44 | markey | codeine was made by Max, he's the guru of good interfaces |
| 08:20.44 | XVampireX | looks too simplistic |
| 08:20.45 | markey | cuts down on all the crap that noone needs |
| 08:20.45 | Q-collective | well, kaffeine's UI pwns codeine's |
| 08:20.45 | Q-collective | imho |
| 08:20.45 | Q-collective | period |
| 08:20.45 | Q-collective | :) |
| 08:20.46 | markey | kaffeine's ui is a mess |
| 08:20.46 | Q-collective | why? |
| 08:20.46 | Jucato | markey: I agree |
| 08:20.47 | markey | the interface just gets in your way |
| 08:20.47 | markey | too many options, buttons, menus, etc |
| 08:20.47 | Jucato | biggest UI annoyance for me: mouse wheel works opposite of the rest of KDE |
| 08:20.47 | markey | and it takes too long to do what you want: watch a video |
| 08:20.48 | markey | as codeine proves, all this mess isn't needed |
| 08:20.48 | MrGrim | markey: put dvd in drive.. click on huge "Open DVD" button in kaffiene... |
| 08:20.48 | Jucato | although the recent kaffeine's UI is a bit less cluttered than previous releases... |
| 08:20.50 | MrGrim | ya... really gets in the way |
| 08:20.50 | MrGrim | and takes too long |
| 08:20.50 | Q-collective | MrGrim++ |
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| 08:20.51 | Jucato | how about opening a video file? why don't they have a huge button for that? |
| 08:20.51 | XVampireX | LOL |
| 08:20.51 | MrGrim | they do |
| 08:20.51 | XVampireX | codeine got fade out effect :P |
| 08:20.52 | Jucato | MrGrim: where? |
| 08:20.52 | MrGrim | it's right next to the open dvd button |
| 08:20.52 | XVampireX | By the way, codeine is for people who don't watch alot :P |
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| 08:21.00 | XVampireX | open up codeine and it asks you what you want to do |
| 08:21.04 | MrGrim | oh wait I lied |
| 08:21.11 | MrGrim | Jucato: file -> open :) |
| 08:21.19 | XVampireX | then when you open up a file it shows resizing options |
| 08:21.31 | Jucato | MrGrim: read: huge button, like 1 click to get the dialog box |
| 08:21.31 | XVampireX | it's kinda annoying |
| 08:21.37 | XVampireX | kaffeine doesn't get in my way |
| 08:21.39 | Jucato | MrGrim: also, have you tried the mouse wheel? |
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| 08:22.13 | MrGrim | ya I don't like multi purpose buttons.. hell I don't even like th eplay button also being a pause button |
| 08:22.17 | MrGrim | nonetheless also being the open button |
| 08:22.23 | Jucato | if they're going to implement those huge buttons, I wish they could make it configurable like K3b's |
| 08:23.21 | MrGrim | I thought usanility types tended to shy away from multi function context buttons |
| 08:23.29 | MrGrim | usability* |
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| 10:51.17 | XVampireX | any kde program with gstreamer already? |
| 10:51.17 | benJIman | kaffeine |
| 10:51.18 | benJIman | amarok, juk |
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| 10:52.40 | intrade | these files can nuke x i hear if you run latest libacl1 libattr1 |
| 10:52.46 | intrade | when dist-upgrading |
| 10:52.47 | Sho_ | XVampireX: And KMPlayer |
| 10:52.48 | intrade | totem is top |
| 10:52.48 | Sho_ | Totem is not a KDE application |
| 10:52.48 | intrade | vlc also |
| 10:52.49 | XVampireX | Oh, right, kmplayer, is that using gstreamer 0.10? |
| 10:52.49 | intrade | so what lol |
| 10:52.49 | Sho_ | intrade: He asked for KDE programs. |
| 10:52.50 | intrade | hmm |
| 10:52.50 | intrade | ok i thought he wanted top players |
| 10:52.50 | Sho_ | XVampireX: Dunno |
| 10:52.50 | intrade | qtparted is crap |
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| 10:54.40 | XVampireX | Cause kaffeine is porting to gstreamer 0.10 supposedly and supposedly, it's good now >_< |
| 10:54.44 | intrade | ktorrent is top |
| 10:54.51 | XVampireX | so me test want :P |
| 10:55.05 | XVampireX | maybe :D |
| 10:55.07 | Zero_Dogg | does korganizer ever save data to different *ics-es? Or does it always save to ~/.kde/share/apps/korganizer/std.ics ? |
| 10:55.13 | Sho_ | XVampireX: Also, the company behind GStreamer is writing a GStreamer backend for Phonon currently |
| 10:55.18 | intrade | kscd? |
| 10:55.29 | XVampireX | Sho_: I heard that :D |
| 10:55.42 | XVampireX | How do they make money, anyhow? |
| 10:56.04 | MrGrim | would have been nice if gstreamer used c++ instead of glib :/ |
| 10:56.05 | Sho_ | XVampireX: With a closed-source streaming server and consulting services, I believe |
| 10:56.06 | intrade | i got streamtuner |
| 10:56.06 | MrGrim | even better if it used QObjects |
| 10:56.08 | XVampireX | Sho_: Oh, okey :) |
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| 10:58.12 | hacosta | hi, sometimes (it seems random) kde stays in initializing system services when i startx.. no relevant output in console, any ideas? |
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| 10:58.21 | Sho_ | hacosta: Check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 10:58.24 | hacosta | Sho_ k, will do, btw this onyly happens in my custom kernel |
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| 11:05.16 | Magnavox | Hey all, on KDE 3.5, the menu bar, it has an image up the side of it, with the KDE logo and 'KDE 3.5' anyway to remove this? |
| 11:06.04 | avu | magnavox: configure panel->menus->show side image |
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| 11:06.30 | Magnavox | wow your a star! Thankyou very much |
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| 11:17.02 | chemaja | if i did NOT choose to store my MSN password in kopete (ie. it was stored in konversationrc) AND i killed off kopete, sedded-out the password and restarted it, how does it still know my password? |
| 11:19.59 | Sho_ | chemaja: konversationrc is the configuration file of Konversation, not Kopete |
| 11:20.13 | Sho_ | chemaja: Konversation does not support MSN, only IRC |
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| 11:20.41 | chemaja | Sho_: oh. my. god. |
| 11:20.42 | chemaja | Sho_: i knew that. really. i did. |
| 11:20.43 | markey | heh |
| 11:20.56 | Sho_ | chemaja: Kopete uses KWallet for password storage, I guess |
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| 11:21.06 | chemaja | no, i'm just a complete butthead |
| 11:21.08 | chemaja | cheers :) |
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| 11:31.57 | hacosta | hehehehe he said butthead |
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| 11:38.35 | timofonic | . |
| 11:38.37 | timofonic | oops |
| 11:38.39 | timofonic | re |
| 11:38.41 | timofonic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:24.49 | dinolinux | hi, i've just installed kde, but kdesu is not working. Everytime i use it, i get the error "conversation with su failed" |
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| 12:27.48 | Jucato | where do I ask questions about compiling KDE (stable) from SVN? here or in #kde-devel? |
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| 12:34.23 | Q-collective | Jucato: just ask ;) |
| 12:35.03 | Jucato | Q-collective: um... I'll try rebuilding everything... something must have went wrong... :P |
| 12:35.35 | Jucato | oh I have one question that can probably easily be answered (here's to hoping!) |
| 12:36.16 | Jucato | if I just want to build/compile an app which is part of kdebase, do I still need to build everything else (arts, kdelibs, kdebase)? |
| 12:37.09 | Sho_ | Jucato: Every KDE app requires kdelibs |
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| 12:38.34 | Jucato | Sho_: I meant something like this: I'm already running KDE. I want to compile an app that is in the kdebase module (kcontrol or konqueror). do I have to make a new user and build all of KDE in that user, or can I just compile that app using the current installation that I have? |
| 12:39.01 | Sho_ | Jucato: You can generally compile that app ussing the installation that you have |
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| 12:39.39 | Jucato | Sho_: using the same method I used for Konvi? |
| 12:39.55 | Sho_ | Jucato: Very seldomly interdependencies between a kdebase of a given version and a kdelibs of the same version happen, but this is generally regarded as a bug and tried to be avoided |
| 12:40.09 | Sho_ | Jucato: Yes |
| 12:40.17 | Jucato | ok let me try. thanks! :) |
| 12:41.12 | Sho_ | Jucato: Konstruct is very helpful in that |
| 12:41.30 | Sho_ | Or possibly kdesvn-build |
| 12:41.30 | Jucato | oooh... never heard of it... looking it up now :) |
| 12:41.48 | Sho_ | http://kdesvn-build.kde.org/ http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=23840 http://developer.kde.org/build/konstruct/ |
| 12:41.53 | Jucato | heh.. I already checked out arts, kdelibs and kdebase from svn... didn't realize that co alone would take that long :) |
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| 12:42.27 | Sho_ | Fast SVN is not</Yoda> |
| 12:42.48 | Jucato | that I learned, master :) |
| 12:43.19 | Jucato | at least now I have a list of "things to do while snoozing" |
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| 12:45.33 | Jucato | only arts built without any errors... kdelibs had errors about kabc plugins... |
| 12:46.12 | thiago | which error? |
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| 12:47.09 | Jucato | gr.. I think I deleted the log.. :( |
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| 12:48.35 | Jucato | thiago: these were the last lines (actually the only ones with "Error") |
| 12:48.37 | Jucato | http://rafb.net/paste/results/JIEcNl74.html |
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| 12:53.22 | Sho_ | Jucato: The actual error would be above the quoted lines |
| 12:53.29 | Jucato | oh... |
| 12:53.36 | thiago | what's the first error? |
| 12:53.47 | thiago | what you pasted means "there was an error above" |
| 12:54.14 | Jucato | aw krap... I just got those from Konsole's buffer... now I can't see the error above it anymore :( |
| 12:54.23 | thiago | type unsermake again |
| 12:54.34 | thiago | wait, you're not using unsermake. Type make. |
| 12:54.36 | Jucato | oh, it's KDE 3.5.5, btw |
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| 12:54.55 | Jucato | heh... I just deleted the whole build directory... :( |
| 12:55.34 | Jucato | I really just need to be able to build kcontrol (it has the files I'm trying to modify) |
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| 12:57.37 | Jucato | Sho_: should I just "svn co -N svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase kdebase" then in kdebase, "svn up kcontrol"? |
| 12:58.08 | thiago | and admin |
| 12:58.24 | Sho_ | should work, yes |
| 12:58.47 | Jucato | ok I'll try it again. thanks! :) |
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| 12:59.06 | Sho_ | symlink the 3.5 admin dir you svn co'd for Konvi into the module dir |
| 13:00.33 | Jucato | ok |
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| 13:19.11 | Agiofws | how do i set the session manager to display a SHUT DOWN OPTION in KDE ? |
| 13:20.19 | thiago | use kdm |
| 13:20.42 | Agiofws | i don't uuse KDM to login |
| 13:20.52 | thiago | that's why |
| 13:20.55 | thiago | start using it |
| 13:21.09 | Agiofws | to start a kde session i start it from Konsole |
| 13:21.18 | Agiofws | terminal |
| 13:21.33 | Agiofws | is there anyother way ? |
| 13:21.41 | thiago | yes, not having the button |
| 13:22.05 | spawn57 | use kdm, it's a login manager, you could use gdm or xdm too |
| 13:22.09 | thiago | no |
| 13:22.19 | thiago | the power down button only appears if you're using kdm |
| 13:22.19 | Agiofws | ok theni'll have to make my own one |
| 13:22.20 | thiago | no other |
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| 13:22.32 | spawn57 | =O |
| 13:22.39 | Agiofws | can i start kdm from treminal as user ? |
| 13:22.43 | thiago | no |
| 13:22.46 | thiago | only root can run kdm |
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| 13:23.08 | spawn57 | heh |
| 13:23.10 | Agiofws | ok then thats not AN OPTION on a box that uses 2 GUIS |
| 13:23.14 | spawn57 | i use ubuntu/debian |
| 13:23.39 | Agiofws | i'll to script sokmething and link it to an icon |
| 13:23.40 | spawn57 | sudo invoke-rc.d kdm start =D |
| 13:24.06 | thiago | it is |
| 13:24.07 | thiago | just use kdm |
| 13:24.10 | thiago | done |
| 13:24.41 | Agiofws | when i boot up it takes me to runlevel 3 |
| 13:24.55 | Agiofws | i login as as user |
| 13:25.00 | Agiofws | so i can't start kdm |
| 13:25.07 | thiago | so start in runlevel 5 |
| 13:25.08 | thiago | simple |
| 13:25.17 | spawn57 | or you can set kdm to start in runlevel 3. |
| 13:25.23 | spawn57 | what' distro are you using? |
| 13:25.30 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.44 | Sho_ | Agiofws: Why wouldn't it? KDM can start a XFce session just fine |
| 13:25.59 | thiago | yep |
| 13:25.59 | spawn57 | hmm |
| 13:25.59 | Agiofws | and why shoooould i load a KDM from boot up that spares alot of bott up time |
| 13:26.14 | thiago | it doesn't take that long to open |
| 13:26.18 | thiago | it's not that big |
| 13:26.19 | Sho_ | Agiofws: Because you apparently desire functionality that kdm provides? |
| 13:26.24 | spawn57 | yeah it's not even a second |
| 13:26.34 | thiago | besides, most of the RAM is taken up by X anyways |
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| 13:26.45 | thiago | you don't want a dm if you're not going to use X |
| 13:26.47 | Agiofws | any i prefer things simple |
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| 13:27.07 | thiago | yep, dms are simpler |
| 13:27.20 | Agiofws | boot up ---> terminal from then on its my drive |
| 13:27.20 | thiago | you log in *and* you choose which UI environment you want, in the same screen |
| 13:28.03 | Agiofws | i don't use kdm gdm ... |
| 13:28.16 | thiago | and that's why you don't have the functionality |
| 13:28.34 | Blissex | So, I'd like to create, edit and save encrypted files with Kate and with the help of KWallet. How to do this? I checked the Kate menus and done some searches and it is not so obvious how to create or encrypt a file. |
| 13:28.50 | Agiofws | why shoudl i use a gui login maner when you can start stuff up from cmdline |
| 13:29.27 | Sho_ | Blissex: Set up KGPG correctly (enable Konqueror integration in its preferences), save the file, right-click it in Konq or a file dialog and encrypt it using KGPG's service menus |
| 13:29.44 | Sho_ | Agiofws: Because you apparently desire functionality that it provides? |
| 13:29.51 | thiago | Blissex: there's no such option. |
| 13:30.02 | Jucato | Agiofws: because a GUI login manager has a GUI shutdown option |
| 13:30.41 | StevenR | Agiofws: is still don't see why you can't use kdm. |
| 13:30.56 | Sho_ | Blissex: Alternatively, write a script to do it and add it as an "External Tool" in Kate |
| 13:32.20 | Agiofws | i don't like them they are ram and time consuming and i prefer boot to take me to a treminal and start things "up" from there |
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| 13:32.46 | Blissex | Sho_, thiago: Ah interesting. Will look at KGPG. I had hoped that Kate or some KIO file had something like the 'mcrypt++' package in [X]Emacs. Or a plugin thereof... |
| 13:32.53 | StevenR | Agiofws: then you don't get a button. |
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| 13:33.17 | Sho_ | Blissex: You could pretty easily hook it up with a little scripting and External Tools, with a keyboard shortcut and all :-) |
| 13:33.45 | Agiofws | su -c "shutdown -h 0" would this work ? |
| 13:34.01 | Agiofws | no i need a treminal to run it right |
| 13:34.29 | thiago | you'll need to type the password somewhere |
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| 13:34.36 | Agiofws | so i have to start a treminal as well |
| 13:34.44 | Agiofws | i will |
| 13:35.09 | Agiofws | the thing is that in that connad i have to open up a treminal |
| 13:35.16 | thiago | or make that a command that a user can run without password, using sudo |
| 13:35.36 | thiago | note that not proceeding through the KDE shutdown sequence, no files will be saved. |
| 13:35.44 | thiago | you won't get asked if you have unmodified changes |
| 13:35.55 | Agiofws | does not matter |
| 13:35.56 | thiago | the config files won't be saved either (they are saved when programs quit) |
| 13:35.59 | thiago | or the session |
| 13:36.29 | Blissex | Sho_: a bit early for that... But will look at that. |
| 13:37.07 | Sho_ | Cool, Digikam 0.9 is out |
| 13:37.23 | Blissex | So another obvious question: what's the relationship between KGPG and KWallet if any? One for ecnrypting files, the other for storing web password? |
| 13:38.03 | Sho_ | Blissex: KGPG is a keyring manager GUI / frontend for GnuPG |
| 13:39.42 | Sho_ | KWallet is a password storage and management facility |
| 13:39.43 | Blissex | Sho_: yes, that's pretty obvious :-). I was wondering about the KDE-level integration if any. E.g. whether KGPG stores/can store its passwords inside KWallet etc.; it would be nice if it was all seamlessly integrated :-) |
| 13:40.16 | Sho_ | It's possible it can, don't know from memory to be honest :) |
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| 13:41.04 | Bille | it's possible, but kgpg doesn't use kwallet. |
| 13:41.17 | thiago | nor the other way around |
| 13:41.25 | thiago | kwallet uses OpenSSL as its crypto backend |
| 13:41.26 | thiago | not gpg |
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| 13:44.49 | Agiofws | how do i start a xterm with an application running inside of it |
| 13:45.05 | Blissex | Agiofws, 'man xterm', the #'-e' option. |
| 13:45.06 | thiago | xterm -e command |
| 13:45.07 | thiago | I think |
| 13:45.10 | thiago | read the manual |
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| 13:49.19 | Agiofws | su -c Eterm -e echo "halo" ? |
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| 13:49.31 | Agiofws | thats not right though |
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| 13:49.51 | Sho_ | That's a question for #linux perhaps, but not for #kde |
| 13:49.57 | bline | man eterm maybe |
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| 14:01.05 | Richlv | can i actually submit cddb information in kaudiocreator with 3.5 kde ? |
| 14:01.16 | Richlv | it has http configuration in submit tab |
| 14:01.40 | Richlv | but there is no explicit button "submit" or similar |
| 14:01.46 | Richlv | and kde4 roadmap says "Make it possible to submit CDDB information" |
| 14:04.01 | Agiofws | su -c "Eterm -e /sbin/shutdown -k 0" thats it |
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| 14:13.24 | nsar | hello |
| 14:13.45 | Agiofws | su -c "Eterm -e /sbin/shutdown -h 0" why won'tthis work when i try to creat a new app on the desktop ? |
| 14:14.30 | Agiofws | why wonn't open up a treminal ? |
| 14:14.35 | nsar | what is wrong with gstreamer 0.8.0 and doesn't compile, please tell me what to do with the matter of gstreamer cause without it media package of kde doesn't work properly |
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| 14:15.24 | nsar | why kdemultimedia doesn't work with other version of gstreamer? |
| 14:15.41 | benJIman | gstreamer change their abi regularly |
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| 14:16.05 | nsar | what should i do to make it work? |
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| 14:19.25 | Jucato | Sho_: I get these when I try to compile only kcontrol from SVN: http://rafb.net/paste/results/kg8ONw77.html |
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| 14:20.07 | sobersabre | hi. wierd problem in kontact (kmail) |
| 14:20.16 | sobersabre | I want to scroll messages. |
| 14:20.26 | sobersabre | with the keyboard arrow keys. |
| 14:20.47 | sobersabre | but the moment I touch the keyboard the focus is inside the current message. |
| 14:20.55 | sobersabre | and I am scrolling the messages |
| 14:20.59 | sobersabre | not their list |
| 14:21.08 | sobersabre | I mean the contents of a chosen message |
| 14:21.14 | sobersabre | how do I cure this ?! |
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| 14:22.47 | Jucato | sobersabre: press N for the next message in the list, and P for the previous message? |
| 14:23.20 | Jucato | sobersabre: actually, Left and Right arrow keys do the same |
| 14:24.53 | sobersabre | Jucato: wtf left and right ? :) |
| 14:25.17 | Jucato | yep :) |
| 14:25.22 | sobersabre | hmmm... I wonder in what position was the programmer while looking at the monitor and inventing these shortcuts... |
| 14:25.48 | sobersabre | I heard there are some 'UI' and 'Usability' conventions in KDE.... |
| 14:26.06 | sobersabre | hm... |
| 14:26.15 | sobersabre | OK... is there a video tutorial for such things ? |
| 14:26.16 | sobersabre | :) |
| 14:26.34 | sobersabre | ok... thanks peoplez! |
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| 14:27.14 | nsar | what version should i use of gstreamer if not 0.8.0? |
| 14:27.26 | sobersabre | nsar: something higher than this... |
| 14:27.33 | sobersabre | e.g. 0.10 |
| 14:27.57 | nsar | they claim on the documentation that 0.10 doesnt work |
| 14:28.06 | sobersabre | who are 'they'... |
| 14:28.10 | sobersabre | ? |
| 14:28.11 | sobersabre | :) |
| 14:28.21 | sobersabre | 'they' are those that are chasing me ?! |
| 14:28.29 | nsar | :) |
| 14:28.32 | sobersabre | well, they lie! |
| 14:28.43 | nsar | ok i will try it |
| 14:28.49 | nsar | thanks |
| 14:29.25 | sobersabre | I have no idea... if what I am saying is correct. |
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| 14:29.39 | sobersabre | I have a ubuntu, and it uses gst 0.10 |
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| 14:30.22 | nsar | i am trying to compile on fedora core 5 |
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| 14:33.22 | EDinNY | how do I switch or modify themes in kde? |
| 14:34.06 | Jucato | EDinNY: http://docs.kde.org/userguide/customizing-desktop.html |
| 14:36.36 | Jucato | do I need to also build qt-copy from svn if I want to build kdebase (plus kdelibs and arts)? |
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| 14:37.10 | EDinNY | how do you start the kde control center? |
| 14:37.17 | Jucato | EDinNY: are you using Kubuntu? |
| 14:37.22 | EDinNY | yes |
| 14:37.45 | Jucato | EDinNY: everything on that page, except the KDE Theme, can be found in Kubuntu's System Settings -> Appearance |
| 14:38.08 | Jucato | EDinNY: if you need the KDE Theme Manager, you can launch KControl by pressing Alt+F2 and typing in "kcontrol" |
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| 14:39.28 | hacosta_ | hi, im having a problem starting kde, the splash screen stays at "initializing system services" this behavior usually happens only after i killed X and happens to all users.. |
| 14:39.34 | EDinNY | thanks |
| 14:39.47 | bline | Wow, Jucato, you really know kubuntu |
| 14:40.01 | Jucato | bline: I've been using it for almost a year now :) |
| 14:40.23 | bline | I hear a lot of people in here complain about it, is it that bad? |
| 14:40.33 | Jucato | (unfortunately, that has severely limited my experience of other distros...) |
| 14:40.43 | Jucato | depend on which side of the fence you are on :) |
| 14:40.55 | hacosta_ | tail .xsession-errors says: kded Fatal IOerror: client killed |
| 14:40.55 | Jucato | nothing's/nobody's perfect :) |
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| 14:43.51 | hacosta_ | oh, and even if i kill everything related to kde i cant get it to start unless i reboot |
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| 14:44.03 | Sho_ | Jucato: Well, the Kicker kcms require kicker |
| 14:45.22 | Jucato | so I'd have to build both kicker and kcontrol? |
| 14:47.09 | hacosta_ | ~any ideas? |
| 14:47.11 | apt | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box of ground beef, a little sauerkraut, and a dozen sex-crazed ostriches. |
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| 15:09.47 | Dr_willis | Sorry all out of ostriches... will a few nyphomaniac Emus do? |
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| 15:10.52 | LiquidNerd_ | will probably make it a little harder |
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| 15:19.26 | Tenshi | how can I get kdm to give me the option to choose a separate layout defined in my xorg.conf ? |
| 15:20.21 | Tenshi | I have a dual monitor setup with docking station defined for work, and a single laptop display setting as my default, but I have to stop kdm for now and call "startx -- -layout work" |
| 15:20.32 | Tenshi | which leaves me without any session dbus socket |
| 15:20.40 | Dr_willis | Tenshi, thats somthing ive never seen done.... befor. |
| 15:20.45 | Dr_willis | would be nice also for me. |
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| 15:21.46 | Tenshi | I'm pretty sure there's a way to define it in a file somewhere so that it actually sees it as a separate session (like gnome, kde, etc...) |
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| 15:36.44 | LiquidNerd | Tenshi: I think you need to assign that before KDM even starts |
| 15:37.50 | LiquidNerd | why guess would be to make a bash script detect a device that is only present when connected to the docking station, and then launch KDM with the proper X config via the script.. all of which is automated |
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| 15:38.33 | Tenshi | yeah, but there's not documentation anywhere to even tell you how to get kdm to use a different layout |
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| 15:38.36 | Tenshi | :( |
| 15:39.26 | LiquidNerd | hmm... instead of using a different layout, have 2 different x config files.. then the script will rename the appropriate one before launching kdm |
| 15:40.00 | LiquidNerd | probably the easiest way |
| 15:40.19 | Tenshi | yeah, I'm trying to avoid that |
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| 15:40.29 | Tenshi | that can cause some pretty wicked side effects |
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| 15:41.47 | paoleela|w | Does anyone know, why I can't watch a changing pdf with kpdf-3.5.5 here, while the same version works on another computer? |
| 15:43.08 | Tenshi | here's something: |
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| 15:43.13 | Tenshi | [[X-:*-Core]] |
| 15:43.14 | Tenshi | ServerCmd=/usr/X11R6/bin/X |
| 15:43.14 | Tenshi | ServerArgsLocal=-layout nv |
| 15:45.08 | Tenshi | however ... still doesn't solve my problem of multiple configurations |
| 15:45.50 | Tenshi | isn't there a place where you can define sessions for your display managers to look at? |
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| 15:46.31 | dmarkey | anyone awake? |
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| 15:54.02 | Tenshi | alright, so you create an alternate kdmrc file, and in your /etc/init.d/kdm script, have it look for the docking station, and call kdm with -config </alt/config/file> |
| 15:54.12 | Tenshi | now I need to figure out how to detect whether or not it's on the docking station |
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| 16:13.54 | jsumners | is it possible to prevent the taskbar from being moved in KDE 3.5.1? |
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| 16:14.27 | Jucatulog | right-click panel -> Lock Panels? |
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| 16:14.47 | jsumners | i didn't see it |
| 16:14.59 | linux__alien | i ve an unusual problem. I am using KDE and when i press Shift Key i get to see the Scroll lock key indicator switch on |
| 16:15.27 | linux__alien | when i press Shift Key for 5 times i get the Sticky options dialog box |
| 16:15.38 | linux__alien | could someone tell me how to solve this problem? |
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| 16:16.27 | jsumners | Jucatulog: i also don't see any mention of it on http://docs.kde.org/stable/en/kdebase/kcontrol/panel/index.html |
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| 16:17.13 | Jucatulog | jsumners: the doc probably needs to be updated, then. but were you able to see it? |
| 16:17.17 | Jucatulog | (now?) |
| 16:17.28 | McEnroe | how can i cancel a applicationstart? |
| 16:17.55 | McEnroe | for example i'm starting oowriter and i want to cancel it's start |
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| 16:25.09 | Desintegr | killall oowriter2 |
| 16:25.23 | Desintegr | and others |
| 16:25.48 | Desintegr | killall soffice.bin |
| 16:25.50 | Desintegr | better |
| 16:26.30 | Desintegr | but it's no a good idea |
| 16:26.48 | Desintegr | OOo will complain about crash and launch file recovery wizard |
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| 16:27.34 | jsumners | Jucatulog: actually, i can't check right now. it is on my grandfather's machine. i was looking for it yesterday but couldn't find it. i'll probably take a look at it tonight. i just wanted to make sure the option is actually available |
| 16:27.52 | jsumners | he keeps moving it and it really throws him off |
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| 16:28.38 | Jucatulog | I'm pretty sure it's available since KDE 3.5.x |
| 16:29.31 | jsumners | i'll be updating his box to openSUSE 10.2, which includes 3.5.5, this weekend. if i can't find it tonight over a vnc session, then hopefully it will be available after the update |
| 16:31.49 | linux__alien | i get sticky key options dialog box when i press shift for 5 times. How do i change it ? |
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| 16:31.58 | linux__alien | is this a problem in the keyboard config ? |
| 16:32.04 | jsumners | Jucatulog: thanks for the assistance |
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| 16:33.34 | linux__alien | could someone help me please? |
| 16:33.51 | sredna | linux__alien: There is a place where that terror can be turned of |
| 16:34.01 | sredna | Let me try if I can remember or find that for you |
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| 16:35.57 | sredna | linux__alien: I think in the kde control center, find Region & Accessability->Accessability and turn of all the activation gestures |
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| 16:40.15 | linux__alien | how do i turn it off sredna |
| 16:40.22 | linux__alien | should i select the second option |
| 16:40.23 | linux__alien | ? |
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| 16:40.32 | sredna | linux__alien: Uncheck the checkboxes |
| 16:41.18 | linux__alien | sredna, i ve an other problem, I am using KDE and i dont see my Scroll Lock Key indicator switch on at all |
| 16:41.20 | sredna | linux__alien: The 'activation gestures' tab |
| 16:41.23 | linux__alien | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:41.29 | linux__alien | yes sredna did that :-) |
| 16:41.31 | linux__alien | Thanks |
| 16:41.33 | sredna | Hm |
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| 16:45.20 | linux__alien | sredna, any idea? |
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| 17:05.03 | mnoir | how do i disable the default action for alt-leftmousebutton (move the window) so that I can use it in an app that needs it? |
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| 17:08.05 | raf256 | what app should I use to get images via IRDA from cellphone? |
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| 17:11.38 | Richlv | mnoir, try alt+shift |
| 17:11.44 | Richlv | at least in gimp that works |
| 17:12.33 | mnoir | perfect - that works - how did you know I needed it for gimp? :) |
| 17:13.26 | goki- | how do you permanently disable all those actions? |
| 17:13.46 | goki- | I swear I will never use alt+drag to move a window... it will just never happen |
| 17:13.55 | mnoir | me too :) |
| 17:14.51 | simon23 | hi - is it possible to select text in a konqueror window and only display the sourcecode around the marked text ? |
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| 17:16.12 | pinotree | simon23: no - http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=55850 |
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| 17:17.22 | goki- | mnoir: ah - in the settings thingy, under "Desktop ->Window Behaviour -> Window Actions" you can change the "Modifier key" to "Meta" then it only happens when you hold down the Windoze(tm) key and drag |
| 17:17.34 | goki- | which is not likely to be used by another application :) |
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| 17:19.55 | mnoir | hmm - the setting stuck but the alt key is still operative. BRB-bouncing X |
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| 17:26.11 | Paralimnis | hi |
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| 17:26.43 | Paralimnis | anyone here can tell me the name of the software that display a bar on kde desktop |
| 17:26.51 | Paralimnis | that give info about the computer, network, hard disk...? |
| 17:28.01 | aseigo | Paralimnis: superkaramba? |
| 17:28.42 | Paralimnis | thats it. thanks |
| 17:28.49 | aseigo | np |
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| 17:29.40 | Jucatulog | hi aseigo :) |
| 17:29.46 | aseigo | yo |
| 17:30.28 | mnoir | goki-: ...bounced more than kde - alt now behaving itself! |
| 17:30.59 | Jucato | compiling, even just kdebase, is no joking matter after all... :) |
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| 17:31.28 | aseigo | Jucato: heh. and it's monday. so you'll get to update kdelibs shortly ;) |
| 17:31.44 | Jucato | heh good thing I'm building KDE 3.5.5 :P |
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| 17:36.06 | mnoir | DeadFishMan: :) - different (key)strokes for different folks. I do not ever expect to ever use it ever :) |
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| 17:37.19 | Jucato | aseigo: I'm building KDE (kdebase, kdelibs, arts) on a new user, following the guide from quality.kde.org. what if I make some changes in just one app, let's say, kcontrol. do I have to go through all these again: "make -f Makefile.cvs", "configure --prefix=/foo", "make", "make install"? |
| 17:37.32 | pinotree | Jucato: no |
| 17:37.48 | pinotree | Jucato: just make your changes and cd kdebase/kcontrol ; make |
| 17:38.00 | Jucato | oh kool! thanks :) |
| 17:38.06 | Jucato | I was worried about that :P |
| 17:39.02 | aseigo | Jucato: yeah, just the one app... and no reconfiguring necessary... if you ADD new files and so change a Makefile.am .. there's a nice script in kdesdk called "createmakefiles" |
| 17:39.19 | aseigo | Jucato: you go into the base dir (e.g. kdebase/) and then do sth like: createmakefiles kcontrol/ |
| 17:39.24 | aseigo | Jucato: saves a re-./configure |
| 17:39.38 | aseigo | Jucato: in kde4 cmake takes care of that for you |
| 17:39.47 | Jucato | aah thanks :) |
| 17:40.37 | Jucato | I tried to build KDE 3.5.5 manually, without kdesvn-build, for the learning experience |
| 17:41.05 | aseigo | good man! |
| 17:41.21 | Jucato | hehe :) |
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| 17:42.43 | Jucato | aseigo: btw, http://developernew.kde.org/Getting_Started/Build/Stable_Version says that KDE 3.5.4 is still the stable release (as of 2006-08-08). just something for your wiki friday :) |
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| 17:47.25 | shadowsa | do you guys know a good grub channel? |
| 17:49.22 | davascript_work | man grub |
| 17:49.26 | shadowsa | do you guys know a good grub channel? |
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| 17:49.38 | shadowsa | oh sorry i misclicked |
| 17:49.53 | shadowsa | man grub? |
| 17:50.10 | Jucato | man pages for GRUB |
| 17:50.39 | Jucato | you can also do "man:/grub" in Konqueror |
| 17:50.55 | Horst_Flemming | is there a xfig -like program written for kde or qt? |
| 17:50.59 | shadowsa | yeah but the information im looking for seems not to be available there |
| 17:51.17 | shadowsa | but i think the function must be possible |
| 17:51.19 | paoleela|w | konqueror can't display http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols correctly. Is there missing a font set? |
| 17:51.59 | Desintegr | paoleela|w: no problem for me |
| 17:52.09 | Desintegr | which font do you use ? |
| 17:52.44 | Jucato | no problem here either |
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| 17:52.56 | Desintegr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Special_characters |
| 17:53.22 | Desintegr | give a try to Deja Vu fonts |
| 17:53.44 | aseigo | Jucato: it's a wiki. why don't you fix it? =) |
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| 17:53.57 | aseigo | Jucato: my wiki.friday doesn't mean aseigo.doEverything() ;) |
| 17:54.09 | Jucato | aseigo: hehe ok :) |
| 17:54.13 | paoleela|w | Desintegr: Bitstream sets. |
| 17:54.28 | paoleela|w | Is that about charset maybe? |
| 17:54.30 | Desintegr | paoleela|w: Deja Vu is more complete than Bistream |
| 17:54.46 | sredna | Dejavu is apperantly not quite enough :( |
| 17:55.09 | paoleela|w | So it's really about the fontset? My complete KDE desktop is on bitstream fonts. Let's see if Dejavu fits into the design... |
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| 17:55.46 | paoleela|w | "Description: DejaVu fonts, bitstream vera with ISO-8859-2 characters" it's actually bitstream? |
| 17:56.12 | Desintegr | modified Bitstream |
| 17:56.25 | Desintegr | with updated charsets |
| 17:56.30 | paoleela|w | So that will fit, optically. |
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| 17:56.40 | paoleela|w | serif or not? |
| 17:56.58 | Desintegr | Sans, Serif, Monospace, Condensed, etc. |
| 17:57.05 | Desintegr | and read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_software_Unicode_typefaces |
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| 17:59.22 | Persilon | Hi everyone |
| 17:59.28 | paoleela|w | Desintegr: Do I need to switch to Unicode therefore? |
| 17:59.41 | Desintegr | I don't think so |
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| 17:59.55 | Desintegr | HTML page charset is independant |
| 18:00.33 | Persilon | hey I've got a problem with kmail... suddenly it decided not to show my mails anymore... they're there in the cur/ directory of inbox but they don't appear |
| 18:00.45 | Persilon | I tried with kmailCVT but it doesn't restore them either |
| 18:00.53 | Desintegr | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Table_of_mathematical_symbols uses UTF-8 charset, so you need an UTF-8 font to display all the symbols |
| 18:01.05 | aseigo | Persilon: try deleting the .index* files |
| 18:01.30 | Persilon | aseigo: let me see |
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| 18:02.53 | lefti | hi, i have selected client: aspell in kcontrol but if i run kword it prints: Illegal format hash table /usr/lib/ispell/czech.hash - expected magic2 0x9602, got 0x0 |
| 18:03.00 | lefti | /usr/lib/ispell/ |
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| 18:03.02 | lefti | wtf |
| 18:03.33 | Persilon | aseigo: I closed kmail, deleted .index.inbox* but nothing changed |
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| 18:06.43 | Jucato | aseigo: done making the (very minor) changes. :) |
| 18:07.16 | Persilon | can't kmail import maildir boxes ? |
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| 18:09.45 | aseigo | Jucato: huzzah! |
| 18:10.08 | Jucato | :D |
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| 18:11.13 | Jucato | heh tea... which I will take in a few minutes (or an hour) :) |
| 18:11.26 | Jucato | strangely, coffee and chocolate only make me sleepier... |
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| 18:15.43 | Persilon | any help with kmail ? |
| 18:16.01 | Richlv | mnoir, i did not know you needed it for gimp - i just had uset it in gimp myself :) |
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| 18:22.46 | sredna | Persilon: Ask a real question ;) |
| 18:23.00 | Persilon | sredna: I've asked :P |
| 18:23.10 | Persilon | sredna: my kmail decided to delete my mails |
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| 18:23.25 | Persilon | sredna: the files are there, in the cur/ dir but it won't show them |
| 18:23.39 | Persilon | I deleted the .index.inbox* files but it still doesn't show them |
| 18:23.41 | Jucato | yay!!! it runs!!! |
| 18:23.57 | sredna | Persilon: Maybe you can import them using kmailcvt |
| 18:24.09 | Persilon | sredna: I tried, but it didn't work |
| 18:24.16 | sredna | Hm |
| 18:24.26 | sredna | The internals of kmails folder is a mess |
| 18:24.34 | Persilon | sredna: there are over 15000 files, I don't know if it has something to do with that |
| 18:24.53 | sredna | Persilon: Na, I got more than that |
| 18:25.06 | pembo13_com | does the errror "ld: cannot find -lXtst" make much sense to anyone? |
| 18:25.14 | Persilon | sredna: I thought it was a maildir |
| 18:25.41 | sredna | Persilon: Did you try to restart kmail? |
| 18:25.47 | Persilon | sredna: yes |
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| 18:26.49 | sredna | Convincink kmail to switch from mbox to maildir is about undoable |
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| 18:27.13 | sredna | I remember having probelms with that, I think I ended up moving the files away and importing them later |
| 18:27.14 | Persilon | sredna: I have a maildir inbox |
| 18:27.30 | Persilon | sredna: I tried to do that, it said it imported them but it didn't |
| 18:27.45 | sredna | Sounds odd |
| 18:28.10 | Persilon | sredna: yes it does... I don't know why it deleted them in the first place.... maybe I ran out of space |
| 18:28.27 | Jucato | aseigo: KDE 3.5.5 from svn runs!! :) now... how do I properly go about making some changes in some files? make a duplicate of the file and name one as the original? |
| 18:28.49 | aseigo | Jucato: nope. just edit in place. |
| 18:29.05 | aseigo | Jucato: and then you can do `svn stat` to see what files have changed.. and `svn diff` to create a patch |
| 18:29.18 | Jucato | kool! thanks! :) |
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| 18:30.00 | sredna | Persilon: Maildir is native, so kmail should just read them. What about making a backup, and try renaming renaming the folder? |
| 18:31.01 | Persilon | sredna: let me try, I tried touching some files before but it didn't work either |
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| 18:40.11 | Jucato | annma!!!! |
| 18:40.51 | annma | hi Jucato :) |
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| 18:45.35 | Persilon | sredna: I moved the mails to another folder and now I have them, thank you |
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| 18:50.04 | er4z0r | hi folks |
| 18:51.05 | er4z0r | is konqueror 3.5.5 recognize microformats? |
| 18:51.37 | annma | er4z0r: what are microformats? |
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| 18:52.58 | pinotree | er4z0r: install the microformats konqueror plugin from kdeaddons |
| 18:53.15 | er4z0r | ah, ok |
| 18:53.45 | er4z0r | do I need to compile the stuff or can it be installed on the fly, like a mozillla-plugin) |
| 18:54.04 | annma | er4z0r: install kde-addons from your diestro |
| 18:54.07 | annma | distro |
| 18:54.16 | annma | kdeaddons |
| 18:55.16 | er4z0r | ah right |
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| 18:57.18 | blizzard` | help |
| 18:57.23 | blizzard` | i've lost my window decorations... |
| 18:57.36 | blizzard` | my guess is that compiz stole it |
| 18:57.50 | blizzard` | which binary handles the decorations? |
| 18:58.30 | benJIman | kwin |
| 18:58.51 | blizzard` | hm, kwin not running |
| 18:58.58 | blizzard` | but aint kwin the window manager? |
| 18:59.10 | Jucato | annma: is KDE 3.5.6 now frozen? |
| 18:59.21 | annma | yes |
| 18:59.28 | Jucato | aww... :( |
| 18:59.40 | annma | what's up? |
| 18:59.58 | benJIman | blizzard`: it is |
| 19:00.02 | Jucato | :D |
| 19:00.05 | benJIman | blizzard`: but so is compiz, compiz replaces kwin |
| 19:00.24 | benJIman | if you want to use the kwin decorations with compiz you'll want to use the beryl fork with aquamarine problably |
| 19:00.48 | Jucato | annma: successfully built (after 2 tries) KDE 3.5.5 from SVN (on another user) |
| 19:01.13 | annma | nice Jucato ! |
| 19:01.38 | Jucato | annma: it has kept me up all night :) |
| 19:01.44 | annma | wow |
| 19:02.29 | Jucato | I couldn't sleep with kdelibs/kdebase building at the back of my mind... |
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| 19:02.57 | Jucato | I was trying to build just kcontrol earlier... but wasn't successful... so decided to build everything... |
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| 19:03.26 | annma | ;) |
| 19:03.37 | Zeroth404 | anyone recall that KDE start menu enhancement that was supposed to be in some version of SuSE? was that a SuSE thing or a KDE thing? |
| 19:03.52 | annma | Kickoff |
| 19:03.52 | benJIman | Zeroth404: it's in 10.2 |
| 19:03.55 | Bille | Zeroth404: suse thing |
| 19:04.03 | annma | it' a suse thing |
| 19:04.07 | benJIman | It's in kde svn, won't be in offical kde release though |
| 19:04.18 | Zeroth404 | its so sexy ... will KDE 4 have it? |
| 19:04.25 | Jucato | although some have packaged it for other distros (currently using it now on Kubuntu) |
| 19:04.34 | Zeroth404 | whats it called? I'm on gentoo |
| 19:04.50 | benJIman | kickoff |
| 19:04.51 | Bille | Zeroth404: i'm working on integrating it with kde 4 |
| 19:05.11 | Zeroth404 | Bille, thats good to hear |
| 19:05.14 | Jucato | annma: when I do svn diff, it shows all the changes I made in all the files I changed. should I put those in only one file, like patch.diff? |
| 19:05.24 | Bille | it won't be exactly the same, but use the experiences gained from doing kickoff |
| 19:05.56 | annma | Jucato: it depends of the changes |
| 19:06.18 | Zeroth404 | Bille, I'm just itching for new GUI-candy. I tried beryl and AIGLX -- was fun, but not stable enough for my liking. |
| 19:06.21 | annma | Jucato: if it's code you can make a global patch for the same prog |
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| 19:06.34 | annma | global patch = patch for several files |
| 19:06.46 | Zeroth404 | heh |
| 19:06.47 | Jucato | it's code, alright :) |
| 19:07.03 | annma | Jucato: no string changes |
| 19:07.18 | Jucato | I edited 2 files in kdebase/kcontrol/konqhtml/. from where should I issue the svn diff command? |
| 19:07.33 | annma | if you patch kcontrol you'll put all the diffs in a same file called kcontrol.diff |
| 19:07.36 | Jucato | annma: string changes? you mean the text that will display in Dialog boxes? |
| 19:07.43 | annma | yes Jucato |
| 19:07.51 | Jucato | oh there are string changes... |
| 19:07.57 | annma | string = anything translatable is frozen |
| 19:08.44 | Jucato | aw... |
| 19:08.51 | Jucato | well, there's always KDE 3.5.7 lol |
| 19:09.21 | er4z0r | got a question: how can I remove the configuration/looks for my k-menu? |
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| 19:09.37 | Jucato | seems like I'm 3-4 days too late... |
| 19:09.49 | er4z0r | the thing is: i installed edgy eft but kept my home partition and my old configs |
| 19:09.53 | annma | Jucato: yes, it was frozen again on the 15th |
| 19:10.28 | Jucato | annma: will you still be here in around 1-2 hours? |
| 19:10.42 | annma | not sure Jucato |
| 19:10.59 | Jucato | aw... really have to go... but... |
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| 19:11.44 | Jucato | annma, aseigo (or aseigo_): http://jucato.org/stuff/konqhtml.png |
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| 19:13.02 | Jucato | will there be a KDE 3.5.7? |
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| 19:13.25 | annma | you added mouse middle click? |
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| 19:15.06 | aseigo_ | Jucato: booh-yah! |
| 19:17.31 | Jucato | annma: yep |
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| 19:18.08 | Jucato | had I known it was *that* easy and only required me to build kde.... I would have done it before the freeze... (had I also known when the freeze was) |
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| 19:18.38 | annma | is it a bug wish reauest? |
| 19:18.42 | annma | request |
| 19:19.16 | Jucato | annma: the middle click to close tab is a wish that has been resolved, but only through a hidden setting |
| 19:21.27 | sredna | kendrick: Congratulations :) |
| 19:21.35 | kendrick | thx :) |
| 19:22.17 | Jucato | dang no time to make the diff... |
| 19:22.22 | Jucato | gotta go to mass and sing... :( |
| 19:23.03 | annma | ;) |
| 19:23.15 | annma | hope you'll not fell asleep |
| 19:23.25 | Jucato | I can't afford to |
| 19:23.28 | Jucato | brb in 1-2 hours :) |
| 19:23.34 | annma | OK |
| 19:23.42 | annma | see you |
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| 19:33.09 | er4z0r | is anyone actually using the microformats-plugin in konq? |
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| 19:40.22 | annma | er4z0r: tell me what to do |
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| 19:40.33 | annma | if you xant le to try something |
| 19:40.42 | annma | if you want me to try something |
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| 19:41.47 | robertjohnk | does anyone know if lucijan busch or lukas tinkl or another czech/slovakian kde developer is on here once in a while? |
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| 19:51.26 | morgWork | haha, this is awesome |
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| 19:53.01 | morgWork | one of my coworkers just used a screenshot including his network password because the Device line under info read smb://hispassword@domain/machine/printer |
| 19:53.19 | robertjohnk | "oops" |
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| 19:53.47 | robertjohnk | morgWork: was it in the big press release sent to all clients and leads? |
| 19:54.20 | morgWork | robertjohnk: nope, just to the team |
| 19:54.49 | er4z0r | anma: http://microformats.org/code/hcalendar/creator |
| 19:54.50 | morgWork | the real question is should kde be displaying passwords that it stars out when it requests it? |
| 19:55.17 | robertjohnk | i'd say no, but what do i know |
| 19:55.27 | er4z0r | annma: I can detect this, but the import seems not to have any effect |
| 19:55.33 | benJIman | robertjohnk: to display like that you have to type it in in plain text in the address line |
| 19:55.41 | benJIman | robertjohnk: it doesn't display it if you type it in the password request box |
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| 19:56.55 | robertjohnk | benJIman: still, probably best to not print the authentication part of a URL |
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| 19:57.09 | benJIman | robertjohnk: it doesn't know it's the authentication part when you're typing... |
| 19:57.44 | robertjohnk | benJIman: but it should when using the url as title/header/footer when printing, which is the case here |
| 19:59.40 | robertjohnk | benJIman: obviously it shouldn't blur it out from a printed screenshot ;) |
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| 19:59.46 | annma | er4z0r: import? |
| 19:59.47 | morgWork | when setting up the printer, it *****'s it out, yet once it's saved it displays the password in the URI. that is a problem to me |
| 20:00.16 | morgWork | and in most cases (or at least this case) of this happening it's an enterprise windows network password to get into AD |
| 20:00.23 | robertjohnk | KURL::prettyURL strips the password btw |
| 20:00.26 | morgWork | hence not a good thing to have floating around :) |
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| 20:02.21 | morgWork | although, if your password is 123456qwerty, you get what you deserve :) |
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| 20:07.09 | ironfroggy | is it possible to make konversation try to keep rejoining a channel after a reconnect? |
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| 20:10.37 | er4z0r | annma: well, yeah, I thought the microformat-plugin is supposed to _do_ something apart from only recognizing the format |
| 20:10.56 | annma | hmm my firefox does not do anything |
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| 20:16.43 | Sho_ | ironfroggy: Konversation automatically rejoins channels on reconnect |
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| 20:18.12 | er4z0r | anma: there is a plugin called "Tails Export" which is supposed to be able to export microformats |
| 20:18.34 | er4z0r | unfortunately its is not available for linux |
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| 20:19.19 | er4z0r | allthough a columnist in a german IT-Magazine mentioned it _would_ work on lnx |
| 20:21.20 | annma | er4z0r: :( |
| 20:21.35 | er4z0r | annma: yep |
| 20:22.29 | er4z0r | annma: I only had a short look into microformats, but it seems really really cool |
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| 20:22.47 | annma | yes |
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| 20:23.37 | rindolf | Hi all. |
| 20:23.52 | rindolf | Does this channel have a "seen $NICK" bot? |
| 20:23.59 | er4z0r | allthough making your personal info machine-understandable is kinda risky |
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| 20:24.37 | pinotree | rindolf: why? |
| 20:24.52 | rindolf | pinotree: I'm looking for coolo. |
| 20:25.02 | pinotree | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:25.10 | Sulo_Seppa | OK maybe someone can help me here. I placed music into the 'transfer files here' folder in media:/dev/sda2 (my ipod) but I can't navigate to or play the songs on my ipod. |
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| 20:26.20 | Sulo_Seppa | it shows the folders with a different icon. This seems like it should be so obvious but can anyone help me please? |
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| 20:27.23 | rindolf | pinotree: Hmmm... he's been idle for 52 hours. |
| 20:27.32 | rindolf | pinotree: and I don't know which channels he's talking on. |
| 20:27.45 | annma | rindolf: mail him |
| 20:27.46 | Sulo_Seppa | No one have an ipod? :/ |
| 20:27.48 | pinotree | coolo AT kde org |
| 20:27.54 | rindolf | annma: OK. |
| 20:27.56 | Theory | Sulo_Seppa: you've just copied the files across? |
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| 20:28.40 | adamt | Is there a way to get kile to compile twice automatically all the time? |
| 20:29.17 | Sulo_Seppa | Theory: Yes, I placed the music in the "Transfer music here" folder, and it added the folder/songs to the artist folder |
| 20:29.39 | er4z0r | annma: operator on firefox seems quite interesting |
| 20:30.57 | Theory | hrm, my iPod doesn't have one of those |
| 20:31.06 | Theory | I've always transfered tracks using amarok/gtkpod |
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| 20:35.05 | Sulo_Seppa | can anyone tell me what to do? or does nobody in kde chan use konqueror? :p |
| 20:35.28 | adamt | Sulo_Seppa: What's the qustion? |
| 20:35.31 | adamt | *question |
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| 20:36.16 | Sulo_Seppa | adamt: Using an ipod with konqueror, how do I 'write files to ipod' or such? because it doesn't show up when I try to navigate to the songs in my ipod |
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| 20:38.21 | pembo13_com | what is the best way to get drop shadow for windows? |
| 20:38.31 | Sulo_Seppa | so.. no one owns an ipod and uses konqueror? sad. |
| 20:38.37 | adamt | pembo13_com: you could use the kompmgr as a start |
| 20:38.59 | adamt | Sulo_Seppa: Well, does the iPod behave as an usb-mass storage device? |
| 20:39.09 | pembo13_com | adamt: okay, i'll google that |
| 20:39.13 | Theory | Sulo_Seppa: the iPod relies on a metadata store in order to show its lists of tracks |
| 20:39.23 | Theory | as a file manager konqi only manipulates files, not this metadata store |
| 20:39.38 | adamt | pembo13_com: It's a part of KDE ;-) |
| 20:39.52 | pembo13_com | adamt: realising as much..never seen it before |
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| 20:39.56 | ironfroggy | i asked earlier about auto rejoining channels, but i was looking for a way to continually try rejoining. if it fails (ghost nick and channel doesnt allow unregistered nicks), it doesnt try more than once. |
| 20:39.56 | Sulo_Seppa | So I'd have to use something like gtkpod? darn. Thanks |
| 20:40.09 | Theory | Sulo_Seppa: there is an ipod:/ kioslace |
| 20:40.12 | Theory | *kioslave |
| 20:40.14 | adamt | pembo13_com: Another and more fancy way to get them, is by using compiz/beryl ontop of aiglx (or.. *ugh* Xgl) |
| 20:40.28 | Theory | which should automatically update the metadata store when you copy files to it |
| 20:40.32 | Theory | you can find it on www.kde-apps.org |
| 20:40.59 | er4z0r | or just use amarok |
| 20:40.59 | pembo13_com | adamt: are there any real benifits ot comiz? |
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| 20:41.15 | er4z0r | pembo13_com: you could afaik also use beryl |
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| 20:42.33 | adamt | pembo13_com: You get several fancy effects |
| 20:42.38 | pembo13_com | er4z0r: the prob i'm having is deciding what's the simplest/best route to go |
| 20:42.50 | er4z0r | pembo13_com: what distro? |
| 20:42.57 | pembo13_com | er4z0r: Fedora Core 6 |
| 20:43.14 | adamt | pembo13_com: http://antistof.dk/pub/screenshots/aiglx/ |
| 20:43.28 | adamt | that shows you a bit of what compiz/ beryl can do |
| 20:43.42 | adamt | but if you just wants dropshadows, then use kompmgr |
| 20:44.03 | Sho_ | Note however that using compiz/Beryl means replacing KDEs window manager kwin, which will impair your KDE installation and preclude you from using advanced kwin functionality. kompmgr by comparison runs alongside kwin. |
| 20:45.17 | pembo13_com | yah, i figure kompmgr is good enough for me...i tried running it...that didn't do anything interesting...i guess i need to figure out how to configure it |
| 20:45.24 | Sulo_Seppa | wait, how is it I view my ipod and manage songs in amarok? |
| 20:45.40 | Sho_ | pembo13_com: KControl -> Desktop -> Window Behavior -> Translucency |
| 20:45.40 | adamt | pembo13_com: kcontrol |
| 20:45.50 | pembo13_com | ah |
| 20:45.54 | pembo13_com | haven't looked there yet |
| 20:45.57 | Sho_ | pembo13_com: Hint: You will need to start a new session after activating it for kompmgr to be launched |
| 20:46.08 | adamt | Sho_: or just launch it manually.. |
| 20:46.18 | Sho_ | And your X server will need to have the COMPOSITE extension enabled |
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| 20:46.48 | pembo13_com | Sho_: should check the xorg.conf first then |
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| 20:47.40 | adamt | pembo13_com: `grep -i composite /etc/X11/xorg.conf` |
| 20:47.58 | pembo13_com | adamt: checked already...not there...trying to find out what i need to do to enable it now |
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| 20:48.40 | adamt | pembo13_com: 2secs |
| 20:48.42 | Ze_M | if in kwifimanager i click "Desactivate radio" it disables wifi card, so how do i reenable it? |
| 20:48.56 | adamt | pembo13_com: http://pastebin.antistof.dk/45 |
| 20:49.00 | adamt | something like that. |
| 20:49.18 | pembo13_com | adamt: sweet...beat you too it though, thanks |
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| 20:50.16 | jeffto | hello everubody |
| 20:51.05 | adamt | pembo13_com: Ohh well, that's life. |
| 20:51.10 | adamt | hi jeffto |
| 20:52.02 | jeffto | I've a question, I need that when KDE start it open for example konqueror, then open amarok, and then ktorrent, is there some way to do that? |
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| 20:52.50 | adamt | jeffto: yup |
| 20:52.55 | jeffto | yup? |
| 20:53.00 | adamt | jeffto: session saving |
| 20:53.29 | jeffto | I acced using Kcontrol? |
| 20:53.42 | adamt | kcontrol > kde components > session manager |
| 20:53.54 | adamt | look at the "On login" options |
| 20:55.07 | jeffto | let me see |
| 20:57.23 | adamt | jeffto: you could choose to just make it start up all the programs that were running when you shut down last time... or you can choose to save a specific session, and make KDE start that one instead. |
| 20:57.59 | jeffto | yes I can see thata there is an option to use a session created by user |
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| 20:58.11 | jeffto | How I can configure this one |
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| 20:58.31 | adamt | jeffto: when choosing that option, an item is added to the k-menu.. |
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| 20:58.46 | adamt | (i think it's called "save session" or something obvious like that) |
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| 20:58.57 | jeffto | Save session |
| 20:59.07 | jeffto | ohhh, I oopen and then save and... |
| 20:59.08 | jeffto | nice |
| 20:59.17 | jeffto | exactly what I want |
| 20:59.18 | adamt | yup :-) |
| 20:59.29 | jeffto | adamt, thank you so much |
| 20:59.32 | adamt | session management is really nice to have. |
| 20:59.36 | jeffto | aseigo_, are you there? |
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| 20:59.44 | adamt | jeffto: You're most welcome. |
| 21:00.02 | pembo13_com | interesting problem...i sorta just lost my firefox window...is there a keyboard shortcut to move a window? |
| 21:00.03 | aseigo_ | jeffto: possibly. why? |
| 21:00.05 | adamt | jeffto: I might help to ping him lots of times ^^ |
| 21:00.14 | aseigo_ | pembo13_com: yes... |
| 21:00.24 | aseigo_ | pembo13_com: you can either alt+click anywhere on the window if you can see any part of it |
| 21:00.38 | jeffto | adamt, yes I'm goging to play a lot with that |
| 21:00.49 | aseigo_ | pembo13_com: otherwise, you can give it focus using alt-tab or the taskbar, then hit alt+f3 (default setting, you may have changed it) to get to the window menu |
| 21:00.49 | jeffto | aseigo_, You don't remember meeeeee |
| 21:00.51 | pembo13_com | aseigo_: sweet, thanls |
| 21:00.58 | aseigo_ | pembo13_com: and then you can select "move" |
| 21:01.03 | pembo13_com | Alt+Click worked |
| 21:01.07 | aseigo_ | jeffto: oh, it's columbia jeff! |
| 21:01.11 | jeffto | I make you famous |
| 21:01.14 | jeffto | the same |
| 21:01.26 | jeffto | Hey say colombia not columbia |
| 21:01.30 | er4z0r | ok enough hangin around here |
| 21:01.35 | er4z0r | bye everybody |
| 21:01.47 | jeffto | columbia sounds like USA state |
| 21:02.43 | adamt | jeffto: And your surename sounds like alcohol ;-) |
| 21:02.53 | adamt | *surname |
| 21:04.03 | jeffto | and maybe on this days I going to smell like alcohol too |
| 21:05.02 | jeffto | aseigo_, this week I going to traslate your bangalor slydes |
| 21:05.10 | jeffto | *slides |
| 21:05.25 | jeffto | maybe will help you in some spanish talkers country |
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| 21:06.11 | Ze_M | if in kwifimanager i click "Desactivate radio" it disables wifi card, so how do i reenable it? |
| 21:06.32 | aseigo_ | jeffto: ah, awesome! let me know if you manage that so i can blog about it too =) |
| 21:07.05 | adamt | aseigo_: Hey, you want them in danish, too? (nah, probably not..) |
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| 21:07.37 | aseigo_ | adamt: more the merrier =) |
| 21:08.09 | jeffto | adamt, sound jelous |
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| 21:08.50 | jeffto | aseigo_, can you send me de odp file to my mail |
| 21:09.00 | jeffto | I've the PDF file |
| 21:09.12 | aseigo_ | jeffto: it's a kpresenter file. and it's on my site. let me get you a URL. |
| 21:09.21 | jeffto | please |
| 21:09.34 | aseigo_ | jeffto: http://aseigo.bddf.ca/dms/264/342_KDE4_and_you.pdf |
| 21:09.37 | aseigo_ | er... |
| 21:09.44 | aseigo_ | http://aseigo.bddf.ca/dms/264/341_KDE4_and_you.kpr |
| 21:09.45 | aseigo_ | heh |
| 21:09.49 | aseigo_ | "here, have another pdf" ;) |
| 21:09.58 | jeffto | ~_~ |
| 21:09.59 | apt | :/ |
| 21:10.06 | jeffto | aseigo_, are you ok? |
| 21:10.14 | aseigo_ | jeffto: am i ever? ;) |
| 21:10.25 | jeffto | please don't eat this green leaves |
| 21:10.26 | adamt | aseigo_: you're such a nice man, maybe you can get him a jpg-picture of the contents, too? >.< |
| 21:10.44 | jeffto | nice |
| 21:10.54 | jeffto | I cand make you slides on kirta |
| 21:10.57 | jeffto | *krita |
| 21:11.17 | kaflan | hi, does any1 know how to set ALT+SHIFT layout switching? |
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| 21:13.17 | benJIman | kaflan: kcontrol -> regional & accessability -> keyboard shortcuts, change the change keyboard layout one |
| 21:13.43 | kaflan | no |
| 21:13.52 | kaflan | its didnt allow to set alt+shift |
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| 21:14.05 | benJIman | alt-shift are both modifiers, you'd need another key too |
| 21:14.11 | kaflan | y! |
| 21:14.40 | kaflan | i write on keyboard to fast, for use three keys combination |
| 21:15.04 | kaflan | and i too strong love alt+shift |
| 21:15.24 | kaflan | is any other solution in kde? |
| 21:15.45 | kaflan | i think many ppl that use kde have the same problem |
| 21:15.57 | benJIman | all keyboard shortcuts you assign must include a non-modifier key |
| 21:16.03 | benJIman | use another shortcut |
| 21:16.07 | Imrahil | aseigo_: great work on KDE 4 & You slides. Many things I had not heard of such as Akonadi, Sonnet and Threadweaver. |
| 21:16.31 | kaflan | so, u say me that ALL ppl that use kde dont use alt+shift or ctrl+shift comb? |
| 21:16.40 | kaflan | but i know that is not true |
| 21:17.02 | benJIman | kaflan: there are some predefined that only use modifier keys, you can't assign your own that use only modifier keys |
| 21:17.10 | Jucato | they use that combo with something else, like Alt+Shit+Some_Other_Key |
| 21:17.24 | kaflan | no |
| 21:17.30 | qupada | Jucato: alt+shit? |
| 21:17.40 | Jucato | roflmao! |
| 21:17.42 | Jucato | sorry :) |
| 21:18.40 | kaflan | so u still say that all ppl who use kde dont switch their layouts with alt+shift or ctrl+shift? |
| 21:19.12 | Jucato | no they don't. and I guess no one in Linux either |
| 21:19.29 | kaflan | lol |
| 21:19.36 | kaflan | its not true |
| 21:19.41 | Jucato | oh, and if you're also wondering, very few people use the Win key to bring up the K Menu |
| 21:20.22 | bline | heck of a waste, one modifier for one menu |
| 21:20.35 | Jucato | I guess you could probably use some app to make KDE use Alt+Shift without any other keys, but that's beyond the normal use of KDE, afaik |
| 21:20.53 | kaflan | just try to run setxkbmap -option grp:switch,grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll en, ru |
| 21:21.06 | kaflan | and u get ALT+SHIFT switching |
| 21:21.33 | Jucato | and setxkbmap, I presume, is a KDE app? |
| 21:21.49 | Renze | nope, it's an xorg app |
| 21:22.01 | Jucato | which proves my earlier point :) |
| 21:22.01 | Renze | and it's "you", not "u" |
| 21:22.23 | kaflan | no, but if KDE dont allow to use MY keybord as i want, i gues to have another solution |
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| 21:22.50 | kaflan | so i think that on this chanel my problem asked very ofen... |
| 21:22.52 | Jucato | I thought you already enabled Alt+Shift switching? |
| 21:23.02 | kaflan | no |
| 21:23.05 | kaflan | partially |
| 21:23.06 | Renze | kaflan: kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> keyboard layout, xkb options tab (and no, it is rarely ever asked at all) |
| 21:23.26 | kaflan | xkb options tab didnot work |
| 21:23.38 | Jucato | aseigo_: will there be a 3.5.7 release? |
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| 21:25.10 | adamt | Jucato: Maybe if you do the Qt-dance |
| 21:25.13 | kaflan | i`m set on xkb options tab Alt+shift changes group and have formed string like (setxkbmap -option -option grp:alt_shift_toggle) but after i set aplly nothing changes |
| 21:25.43 | pembo13_com | what is the "proper" way to start kxdocker? |
| 21:25.53 | Jucato | adamt: I have two left feet... so I guess that would probably be a no? |
| 21:26.03 | Renze | pembo13_com: by having it saved in your session |
| 21:26.17 | adamt | Jucato: I don't think it's decided yet.. |
| 21:26.24 | pembo13_com | Renze: so just run it manually once? |
| 21:26.34 | Renze | pembo13_com: yes |
| 21:26.36 | Jucato | oh ok... |
| 21:26.48 | pembo13_com | sweet |
| 21:26.48 | adamt | Jucato: If there comes a lot of bugfixes after 3.5.6, and maybe a couple of small features, then i suppose there might be a 3.5.7 |
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| 21:27.38 | Jucato | oh well :) |
| 21:27.53 | adamt | It'll most likely also depend a lot on the progress of KDE4, and probably the weather, too |
| 21:28.11 | Jucato | and probably the state of aseigo's wonkiness... :P |
| 21:28.31 | Renze | or undulations |
| 21:28.44 | Jucato | :) |
| 21:28.50 | adamt | Jucato: KDE isn't a one man job |
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| 21:29.10 | Jucato | adamt: I know. that was meant as a joke, hence the ":P" at the end |
| 21:29.14 | adamt | (although i respect aseigo_, i don't think he'll manage to update KDE by himself :p ) |
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| 21:29.33 | Psych0 | hi there.. |
| 21:29.38 | adamt | hi Psych0 |
| 21:29.49 | Psych0 | is there a way to use dcop to send a message to a logged user? |
| 21:30.26 | adamt | Psych0: which application? |
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| 21:30.39 | Psych0 | adamt, none... KDE |
| 21:30.48 | Psych0 | something like display a window with a message |
| 21:30.52 | aseigo_ | adamt: hehe.. i TOTALLY agree with you there =) |
| 21:31.16 | adamt | Heh. |
| 21:31.19 | Jucato | :P |
| 21:31.35 | aseigo_ | and yeah, there'll almost certainly be a 3.5.7 release. too many people using 3.5.x in large deployments to even HOPE of getting everyone off of kde3 in the next 2-3 years |
| 21:31.37 | adamt | Just look at me. I can't even get this damned report done. |
| 21:31.37 | bline | wall? write? |
| 21:31.48 | Renze | Psych0: dcop --user <username> kded kmilod displayText "Hello" |
| 21:31.56 | Psych0 | i did a backup script, and want to inform the user when backup is done... so, i don't know if the user is using a specific application |
| 21:32.06 | Psych0 | Renze, hum.. leme try |
| 21:32.07 | Jucato | ooh... |
| 21:32.31 | adamt | Renze: fancy popup ;-) |
| 21:32.33 | bline | Isn't there some kde daemon that monitors writes and walls? |
| 21:32.42 | Renze | adamt: it's the kmilo one |
| 21:32.50 | Renze | bline: there is |
| 21:33.04 | Psych0 | Renze, hum.. nice.. but it pops up and disapear.. is there a way to wait for a user response.. like a OK button |
| 21:33.10 | kaflan | if on kde chanel no1 know how to get work tab "Xkb Options" where can i find help? maybe mas/web or other channels? |
| 21:33.11 | adamt | Renze: yup, i recently saw it on my friends suse 10.2 laptop, where it was used to show the volume.. i think... |
| 21:33.32 | Renze | Psych0: not that I am aware of... at least not using dcop |
| 21:34.18 | Jucato | Renze: probably using kdialog or something? |
| 21:34.30 | Renze | Jucato: yeah |
| 21:34.58 | Psych0 | Jucato, yeap.. i was thinking about kdialog, but as I'm running a LTSP server it's a little complicated to use it.... |
| 21:35.18 | Jucato | knotify? |
| 21:36.05 | bline | kosd? |
| 21:36.35 | Jucato | brb :P |
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| 21:38.59 | bline | Anyone know how to make konversation do half pages on PgUP/PgDown? Or maybe just not stop with half the font on either side of the paging? |
| 21:40.08 | adamt | bline: I don't think that is possible in an easy way because of the irc widget itself... try asking Sho_. |
| 21:40.14 | jeffto | aseigo, I have to study, see ya |
| 21:41.22 | bline | adamt: Ok, thanks, I'll ask him when he's not idle. |
| 21:42.04 | adamt | I wouldn't be that worried, he'll probably jump to the rescue in a moment.. |
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| 21:44.13 | Psych0 | so.. and how about another app that do it without having to export X variables and things like that.... |
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| 22:02.28 | Chatty | Hi all, anyone know if it's possible to route sound from multiple kde desktops to different alsa sub-devices? |
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| 22:03.39 | Chatty | I'd like sound from screen 0 to go to front speakers, and sound from screen 1 to go to rear speakers. |
| 22:03.44 | Chatty | is that possible? |
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| 22:05.05 | qupada | Chatty: if you have apps that are capable of co-operating with jackd, then you might get somewhere with some hackery, but it will be on an app-by-app basis, by desktop is a little far-fetched |
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| 22:09.15 | Chatty | Hi qupada. How about by screen? Is there a way for alsa or jack to recognize when a pid is launched from a different X screen. Or maybe even by user? |
| 22:09.30 | Shirakawasuna | has anyone in here experienced problems with brightness/contrast in kmplayer? |
| 22:09.35 | qupada | no, no and no |
| 22:09.48 | qupada | if you want fancy stuff, manually is the only way to get it |
| 22:09.49 | Chatty | Ouch. |
| 22:10.06 | Renze | Shirakawasuna: nope |
| 22:10.10 | Shirakawasuna | hrm |
| 22:10.17 | Shirakawasuna | anyone with an intel graphics card? |
| 22:10.24 | err0r^ | no sry |
| 22:10.32 | aseigo | at least for the laptop |
| 22:10.33 | Shirakawasuna | xine has problems with brightness/contrast, for some reason I think it's related |
| 22:10.34 | qupada | Chatty: and for what it's worth, different virtual desktops are the same X display |
| 22:10.44 | Shirakawasuna | aseigo: is the brightness/contrast strange in kmplayer? |
| 22:10.49 | Shirakawasuna | as compared to straight mplayer/vlc |
| 22:10.57 | qupada | Chatty: you can differentiate by user, but i doubt you could do anything useful with that information |
| 22:11.29 | Shirakawasuna | I even compiled kmplayer without xine support |
| 22:11.45 | Chatty | qupada, right. I was messing around and running 2 X servers at the same time. |
| 22:12.40 | Chatty | When I did that I think I had them both running fluxbox. I don't know if kde would work. |
| 22:13.01 | aseigo | Shirakawasuna: ah, don't use kmplayer, sorry. i do use straight mplayer and it seems ok here |
| 22:13.11 | Shirakawasuna | aseigo: darn |
| 22:13.14 | Shirakawasuna | mplaye ris perfect for me, too |
| 22:13.17 | Shirakawasuna | as is gmplayer |
| 22:13.33 | Shirakawasuna | kmplayer plays just like kaffeine so far as brightness/contrast goes, though |
| 22:13.38 | Chatty | Or, I've heard of ppl running glx on top of x. |
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| 22:19.21 | Shirakawasuna | hrm, there doesn't appear to be a #kmplayer :/ |
| 22:22.09 | Chatty | qupada: is it possible to have jackd route sound from a particular pid? or application? |
| 22:23.27 | qupada | Chatty: well you need either jack-aware apps or some wrapper app that will re-route their output to jack so you can process it. you're probably better off asking in #jack |
| 22:23.34 | adamt | Shirakawasuna: i got weird brightness/contrast in mplayer, too |
| 22:23.43 | Shirakawasuna | adamt: mplayer or kmplayer? |
| 22:23.49 | adamt | but i think it's the same both in mplayer, and kmplayer with mplayer engine.. |
| 22:23.55 | adamt | 2secs |
| 22:23.57 | Shirakawasuna | mine only happens in kmplayer for some reason |
| 22:24.27 | Chatty | Thanks, qupada |
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| 22:25.24 | Shirakawasuna | if I simply run 'mplayer foo.avi' it's too bright |
| 22:26.23 | Shirakawasuna | oh noes |
| 22:26.28 | Shirakawasuna | now mplayer does it, too >_< |
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| 22:42.20 | StarScream | hi guys, running kde 3.5.5 on slackware 11 and when i check the "show date" option for the kde clock in kicker it shows dd-mm-2006 instead of the date |
| 22:42.36 | StarScream | running date from a konsole returns the correct time |
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| 23:44.55 | mardi_soir | hello can some one confirm that the user path for lib for kde is /home/mardi_soir/.kde/share/lib/ ? |
| 23:45.23 | mardi_soir | i have two file .la and .so |
| 23:45.35 | mardi_soir | is it the right directory ? |
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| 23:51.56 | _Atomo64_ | How can I save a speech from ksayit/kttsd to a sound file? |
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| 23:53.44 | mardi_soir | i would like to knowhow use lib with kde but in the home directory ! |
| 23:53.49 | mardi_soir | where to put them |
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| 23:54.04 | mardi_soir | .kde/lib/ does not work |
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| 23:56.01 | smileaf | mardi_soir: you compiling something? |
| 23:56.15 | mardi_soir | yes |
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| 23:56.41 | smileaf | mardi_soir: most configure scripts have parameters to set where to look for certain libs. |
| 23:56.56 | mardi_soir | compilation works fine |
| 23:57.02 | mardi_soir | no errors |
| 23:57.42 | mardi_soir | no root acces only, home |
| 23:58.15 | mardi_soir | or for some theme it the same probleme there are sometimes .so and .la files . |
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| 23:59.11 | smileaf | might have to ask your system admin to install it. |
