| 00:00.05 | THX_8311 | Where do I get new themes for Konversation? |
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| 00:01.49 | [x]illogic-al | Linux World is gonna be in Boston this year! WOOOOOOOT! |
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| 00:25.46 | mrkris | i know this isn't the best place to ask, but does anyone here know of anyone good with graphics that would be willing to spend a lil time on an OSS project? or know where i could look? |
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| 00:47.08 | wireddd | how do I make K menu transparent? |
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| 00:55.18 | THX_8311 | wireddd: Control Center... |
| 00:55.41 | wireddd | I can't seem to find it in there anywhere |
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| 00:59.43 | THX_8311 | Hold on. |
| 01:00.05 | wireddd | <- 3.5.1 |
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| 01:00.09 | THX_8311 | Appearance & Themes |
| 01:00.21 | THX_8311 | Then to Style. |
| 01:00.43 | THX_8311 | Next to your Widget Style click Configure. |
| 01:00.53 | THX_8311 | OPs. |
| 01:00.56 | THX_8311 | Sorry wrong one. |
| 01:01.00 | wireddd | I found it thanks |
| 01:01.13 | THX_8311 | THere should be an "Effects" tab. Click that. |
| 01:01.31 | THX_8311 | Under Menu effect pick Make Translucent. |
| 01:02.01 | THX_8311 | ALso make sure "Enable GUI effects" is checked or xed or what ever. |
| 01:02.07 | wireddd | thanks alot |
| 01:02.18 | THX_8311 | Did you find it? |
| 01:02.22 | wireddd | yeah |
| 01:02.24 | THX_8311 | Cool. |
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| 01:02.46 | THX_8311 | You can also make the panel transparent. |
| 01:03.04 | wireddd | yeah I already have everything else transparent |
| 01:03.14 | THX_8311 | Now xorg just needs to get their stuff together and get full transparency working. |
| 01:03.19 | wireddd | yeah |
| 01:03.31 | THX_8311 | What else other then the panel do you have transparent? |
| 01:04.38 | wireddd | well my panels/taskbar/pager are all transparent |
| 01:05.51 | wireddd | well not really transparent, sudo transparent |
| 01:06.02 | THX_8311 | Oh. Yeah I know how to do all that. |
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| 01:06.28 | THX_8311 | I don't really use the pager thingy. Only need one desktop so I switched to one and removed the pager from the panel. |
| 01:06.38 | THX_8311 | I only need... |
| 01:07.23 | wireddd | well I have alot of computers that have no monitor attached and I ssh into them, so I list to leave konsoles open on the other desktops |
| 01:08.52 | wireddd | they changed the pager so that you can drag things between different desktops just by draging them around on the pager |
| 01:09.04 | THX_8311 | Cool. |
| 01:09.30 | THX_8311 | Do you have any experiance in DVD burning? |
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| 01:09.48 | THX_8311 | experience... |
| 01:10.28 | wireddd | not really |
| 01:10.33 | THX_8311 | I've got the ripping and burning part covered, what I need now is to find a GUI that can automate converting AVI's to a format I can burn. |
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| 01:11.17 | wireddd | THX_8311, there are some guis for mencoder that will do that |
| 01:12.22 | THX_8311 | I have APT and SMART installed on SUSE 10. I was looking for something I could download and install through that. I hate compiling things from scratch. It's to messy for me. |
| 01:12.34 | mobtek | THX_8311: kde-apps.org look for KmPg2 |
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| 01:13.58 | THX_8311 | mobtek: If it works out I may just make my own RPM out of it. |
| 01:15.18 | mobtek | oh yeah it works, I use it all the time |
| 01:16.06 | THX_8311 | I have Kdevelop program or something I forgot the name but I learned just recently how to make suse RPM's using a KDE app. |
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| 01:19.43 | Alethes | *sigh* |
| 01:19.57 | Alethes | <--looking for kde 3.5.1 packages for freebsd 6 |
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| 01:23.24 | stodge | Anyone use cervisia? |
| 01:25.34 | Ze-M | stodge: yes? |
| 01:26.23 | [x]illogic-al | Alethes: experienceing the joys of early adoption? |
| 01:26.32 | stodge | I checked out a project from Sourceforge using an anonymous account...... |
| 01:26.40 | stodge | I've updated files on my local PC and I want to commit them |
| 01:27.08 | stodge | But as the repository was created using anonymous, can I commit them as a different user? |
| 01:27.12 | stodge | (using ssh?) |
| 01:27.17 | stodge | If that makes sense |
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| 01:27.36 | Alethes | [x]illogic-al: indeed |
| 01:27.55 | [x]illogic-al | stodge: there is a way, to convert everything after logging in as the user who can commit |
| 01:28.02 | Alethes | I'm being lazy mostly, 'cause I don't want to install it from ports with all the interactive options |
| 01:28.07 | [x]illogic-al | it used to be in the KDE Developer's handbook. |
| 01:28.23 | [x]illogic-al | stodge: which is now gone since onversion to svn :-) |
| 01:28.29 | stodge | I'm looking on teh cervisia site but I don't see anything to help |
| 01:28.30 | [x]illogic-al | but there is a way. |
| 01:28.50 | [x]illogic-al | i don't know about cervisia, this was on the command line |
| 01:29.02 | stodge | ok |
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| 01:36.54 | toothpick | my opengl acceleration works for games, like slune and chromium, but not the gl screensavers |
| 01:36.57 | toothpick | any ideas? |
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| 01:49.44 | djpharoah | hi anyone there? |
| 01:49.53 | djpharoah | any good sites for KDE theming/icons? |
| 01:50.03 | HuntsMan | djpharoah: kde-look.org |
| 01:50.08 | djpharoah | besides that |
| 01:50.16 | djpharoah | I need something better |
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| 01:52.11 | djpharoah | i just switched from gnome..and cant seem to find any good themes |
| 01:52.29 | mobtek | try lipstick, vera nice |
| 01:53.02 | Catch`CoNdA | It seems I have lost my usb-mass-storage capabilites while migrating to 3.5. I had a similar problem with my mouse, it was solved by enabling the usbhid module. Is there any known issues with usb drives in 3.5 too? (debian test, 2.6 ) |
| 01:53.03 | Q-collective | konq has the very annoying tendency to very slowly reload the dir time and again, this cause the screen to "flicker" a lot, how can I stop this? :( |
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| 01:55.50 | hagabaka | does ksysguardd come with a rc script? or do I create one to just run it? |
| 01:55.57 | DietrichR | Clearlooks on Gnome is gorgeous, but there's also a KDE Klearlook theme which looks very similar |
| 01:56.22 | Q-collective | DietrichR: also using cairo? :P |
| 01:57.13 | DietrichR | Who needs Cairo =p |
| 01:57.25 | Q-collective | cairo is cool :) |
| 01:57.39 | mobtek | Q-collective: arthur is in Qt4 :) |
| 01:57.53 | [x]illogic-al | what, honestly, does cairo provide that kde doesn't already do? |
| 01:58.00 | [x]illogic-al | I am really curious to find out. |
| 01:58.20 | Q-collective | yeah, but then you'll need a theme that is both cairo *and* arthur enabled in order for it to work in both a gtk+ and a qt environment |
| 01:58.48 | Q-collective | if qt would just support cairo by default, you would only need cairo themes :p |
| 01:59.07 | [x]illogic-al | prithee? |
| 01:59.28 | DietrichR | or if Cairo would just die, we wouldn't have a problem to begin with~! |
| 01:59.35 | [x]illogic-al | hahah |
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| 02:00.01 | Q-collective | well, if arthur was already included in qt 3.0, there wouldn't be a cairo to begin with |
| 02:00.07 | Q-collective | but there is now |
| 02:00.12 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: what does cairo give you, that kde does not already? |
| 02:00.14 | Q-collective | and arthur is the fith wheel |
| 02:00.16 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:00.20 | Q-collective | fifth& |
| 02:00.22 | Q-collective | fifth* |
| 02:00.24 | DietrichR | Trolltech was busy working on things that mattered more ;-) |
| 02:00.25 | Q-collective | aargh |
| 02:01.13 | [x]illogic-al | i guess nothing. Thank you for trolling today. Come again soon :-D |
| 02:01.14 | Q-collective | [x]illogic-al: the possibility for a uniform desktop look, the possibility of opengl rendering, nice rounded corners ;p |
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| 02:01.57 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: but we already have rounded corners. if you're interested in downloading a ~2MB png file I can show you my rounded corners. |
| 02:02.12 | Q-collective | heh |
| 02:02.13 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: and KDE already has a uniform desktop look. |
| 02:02.40 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: and the possibility of opengl rendering as well, people haven't used it. but the possiblity exists. |
| 02:03.05 | Q-collective | [x]illogic-al: when I said uniform desktop look, I meant : "1 theme that both just works in kde, gnome, xfce, whatever that supports cairo" |
| 02:03.19 | [x]illogic-al | so we already have everything cairo claims to provide. and then there was arthur. which does it better. |
| 02:03.45 | Q-collective | anyway.. :p |
| 02:03.56 | Q-collective | any ideas about the konq flickering? |
| 02:03.56 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: you mean like with the gtk-qt engine? which doesn't need cairo? |
| 02:03.57 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:03.58 | fredrikh | Q-collective: cairo doesn't work like that |
| 02:04.22 | fredrikh | Q-collective: it's just a high-level wrapper around low level graphics apis |
| 02:04.33 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: if the gnome folks want the make the reverse of something like that, they are more than welcome :-) |
| 02:04.34 | Q-collective | true enough |
| 02:05.21 | [x]illogic-al | as for your konq flickering, i've no idea what you mean. |
| 02:05.48 | [x]illogic-al | maybe if you have previews turned off? |
| 02:07.26 | Cicciux | hey, I get an error with xmms: failed to open output: aRts Output 0.7.1 |
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| 02:07.52 | Ze-M | now in keditbookmarks |
| 02:08.03 | DietrichR | Cicciux: you deserve the error for using xmms |
| 02:08.04 | Q-collective | [x]illogic-al: well, everytime I move my mouse over an icon, it refreshes, it refreshes again when I move the mouse off an icon :P |
| 02:08.09 | Q-collective | really annoying :( |
| 02:08.11 | DietrichR | http://amarok.kde.org/ |
| 02:08.12 | Cicciux | DietrichR what do you suggest? |
| 02:08.12 | DietrichR | ;-) |
| 02:08.23 | Ze-M | now in konqueror when clicking to add bookmark doesnt appear a window to choose where to put the bookmark |
| 02:08.24 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: amaroK |
| 02:08.39 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: We want you! |
| 02:08.41 | Cicciux | searching... |
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| 02:08.48 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: #amaroK |
| 02:08.53 | DietrichR | http://amarok.kde.org lol |
| 02:08.54 | r00723r0 | can kde use gtk? |
| 02:09.06 | Q-collective | heh |
| 02:09.12 | Q-collective | can gnome use qt? |
| 02:09.13 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:09.14 | DietrichR | r00723r0: no, and you wouldnt want it to |
| 02:09.19 | r00723r0 | yes, i would |
| 02:09.24 | Cicciux | merging amarok :-) |
| 02:09.31 | r00723r0 | gtk is, no offense, a better toolkit |
| 02:09.39 | Q-collective | ahem |
| 02:09.42 | r00723r0 | in my opinion |
| 02:09.51 | DietrichR | Cicciux: If you use Gentoo you might think of unmasking the 1.4 beta version, or at least after you try 1.3.8 |
| 02:09.54 | Cicciux | r00723r0 you can run gtk based aplications, but kde itself can't run on gtk. |
| 02:09.57 | DietrichR | because 1.4 has numerous improvements |
| 02:09.58 | mobtek | r00723r0: try some Qt, you might change your opinion :P |
| 02:10.01 | DietrichR | its great and stable for me |
| 02:10.01 | [x]illogic-al | r00723r0: well we disagree with that opinion here :-) |
| 02:10.07 | r00723r0 | i understand that |
| 02:10.12 | r00723r0 | it is, of course, #kde |
| 02:10.16 | mobtek | plus C++ goodness :P |
| 02:10.20 | Cicciux | omg, kde3.5 takes aeons to compile!!! |
| 02:10.24 | r00723r0 | mobtek, ive tried qt |
| 02:10.29 | r00723r0 | it was honestly masochistic |
| 02:10.39 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: for amarok you only need kdelibs |
| 02:10.39 | DietrichR | emerge kdebase-startkde |
| 02:10.43 | DietrichR | its a much better approach |
| 02:10.54 | mobtek | r00723r0: mate I feel the same way about gtk :P |
| 02:11.05 | Q-collective | r00723r0: I do agree with you though that setting 1 theme should just be all what a user should do for a uniform desktop look; and end user shouldn't care about such trivial things as gtk+, qt, efl, and what not |
| 02:11.07 | r00723r0 | lol |
| 02:11.16 | r00723r0 | ecxept im not an end user |
| 02:11.18 | r00723r0 | *except |
| 02:11.26 | Q-collective | fair enough |
| 02:11.27 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:11.38 | r00723r0 | :P |
| 02:11.42 | Cicciux | DietrichR what? |
| 02:11.53 | Cicciux | kde-base/startkde |
| 02:12.01 | r00723r0 | christ, once i get off gentoo everyone is talkin about it |
| 02:12.06 | DietrichR | kdebase-startkde is the base kde installation with no programs other than the panel and the control center |
| 02:12.19 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: the solution of course, is to just use one desktop and it's apps, |
| 02:12.26 | DietrichR | and then from there you can emerge the individual components (konqueror, kopete, etc) |
| 02:12.27 | Cicciux | Ahh, split ebuilds... :P |
| 02:12.28 | Q-collective | r00723r0: ofcourse, it's the best distro around |
| 02:12.28 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:12.34 | DietrichR | yep |
| 02:12.34 | r00723r0 | cough ricer |
| 02:12.40 | [x]illogic-al | lol |
| 02:12.43 | DietrichR | Ricer? |
| 02:12.52 | DietrichR | Because I like powerful package management, im a ricer? |
| 02:12.54 | DietrichR | interesting... |
| 02:12.58 | r00723r0 | if you want ports, use freebsd |
| 02:13.04 | Cicciux | what's a ricer? |
| 02:13.11 | r00723r0 | if you wanna build a system from scratch, use lfs |
| 02:13.17 | r00723r0 | Cicciux, google |
| 02:13.17 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: a gentoo uber optimizzer |
| 02:13.26 | Q-collective | [x]illogic-al: that's a crippled solution though, I'm in xfce myself, but I love stiff like konqueror, amarok, kpdf, k3b, etc |
| 02:13.29 | r00723r0 | -freally-fast-maths -vtec-type-r |
| 02:13.36 | Cicciux | if you want the best of two worlds, use gentoo r00723r0 |
| 02:13.37 | Q-collective | stuff* |
| 02:13.46 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: gtk-qt is your friend |
| 02:13.54 | Q-collective | yeah well :) |
| 02:13.54 | DietrichR | I use -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe and -march=pentium4 |
| 02:13.59 | [x]illogic-al | lmao |
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| 02:14.09 | DietrichR | I like Gentoo because I can customize and yet its still automated and easy |
| 02:14.23 | [x]illogic-al | -fomfg -Omakeitreallyfast |
| 02:14.28 | DietrichR | hahaha |
| 02:14.29 | Q-collective | I love Gentoo because I can kick arts in the nutts with it |
| 02:14.30 | Q-collective | :D |
| 02:14.33 | r00723r0 | use -ftracer and -maccumulate-outgoing-args |
| 02:14.36 | r00723r0 | free speed |
| 02:14.41 | [x]illogic-al | lmao |
| 02:14.45 | Cicciux | arts? |
| 02:14.53 | Cicciux | isn't that kde sound daemon? |
| 02:14.59 | Q-collective | yup |
| 02:15.12 | Cicciux | :S |
| 02:15.12 | r00723r0 | kde uses oss? |
| 02:15.16 | Cicciux | is it not good? |
| 02:15.23 | Q-collective | I hate the very concept of sound daemons |
| 02:15.27 | Q-collective | alsa > * |
| 02:15.35 | r00723r0 | <3 |
| 02:15.53 | Cicciux | Q-collective why? |
| 02:16.02 | r00723r0 | because they are useless |
| 02:16.09 | Q-collective | why create yet another useless layer? |
| 02:16.14 | r00723r0 | Q-collective++ |
| 02:16.26 | Gentle | Q-collective, remember, is nothing is better than alsa, and a butter bread is better than nothing, then a butter bread is better than alsa |
| 02:16.35 | Cicciux | the only thing I like in windows better than in linux is the sound managment. I can play games while listening to music while getting MSN sound alerts... |
| 02:16.36 | Gentle | s/is/if/ |
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| 02:16.41 | Q-collective | besides, there are many problems with arts, removing it solves them |
| 02:16.42 | Q-collective | :P |
| 02:17.00 | Q-collective | apt: gah :) |
| 02:17.03 | DietrichR | Wait wait... i dont know why people have trouble... i can play games and listen to music and get sound alerts... |
| 02:17.11 | DietrichR | And I havent configured anything |
| 02:17.26 | smileaf | me also |
| 02:17.32 | Cicciux | DietrichR what games? |
| 02:17.59 | Gentle | DietrichR, lemme guess, you have a decent soundcard? |
| 02:18.00 | Cicciux | I'm trying to play specifically fs2_open and play music with xmms (an error I'm correcting as I type) |
| 02:18.07 | [x]illogic-al | Cicciux: if you want real help w/ amaroK see #amaroK :-D |
| 02:18.11 | smileaf | arts works just fine, tho from what I've read it tends to drop alot of packets and also is heavily unmaintained/confusing. |
| 02:18.21 | DietrichR | i have an audigy2 |
| 02:18.35 | Cicciux | I have a cirrus logic |
| 02:18.40 | Cicciux | it's a crappy card. |
| 02:18.42 | smileaf | last year I read that aRts is getting replaced tho.. has there been anymore on that? |
| 02:18.48 | Cicciux | and the integrated AC 97 |
| 02:18.59 | Q-collective | smileaf: it's getting kicked in kde4 |
| 02:19.01 | smileaf | yay for ac97 -.-; |
| 02:19.02 | Q-collective | afaik |
| 02:19.02 | DietrichR | KDE4 it'll be replaced |
| 02:19.15 | Cicciux | so, you're saying I shouldn't use arts, just use alsa? |
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| 02:19.19 | Q-collective | good riddance |
| 02:19.20 | Q-collective | :P |
| 02:19.34 | Cicciux | replaced by what? |
| 02:19.40 | Q-collective | by nothing |
| 02:19.42 | Q-collective | alsa |
| 02:19.43 | Q-collective | :p |
| 02:19.55 | Cicciux | :-) |
| 02:20.17 | Q-collective | remember, arts was created in a time everyone used oss, sound daemons were needed back then |
| 02:20.21 | Q-collective | but now... :p |
| 02:20.28 | Cicciux | wait... dinner's on the bed... :P ttyl :-) |
| 02:20.38 | Gentle | Q-collective, but remember them onboard cards where neither a HW mixer is present nor dmix will work |
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| 02:21.05 | firephoto | alsa+dmix wasn't a useable reality until 6 months ago |
| 02:21.11 | Q-collective | fair enough, not sure how the devs will cope with those |
| 02:21.32 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: lies! |
| 02:21.34 | [x]illogic-al | LIES! |
| 02:21.39 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:21.40 | [x]illogic-al | *ahem* |
| 02:21.51 | [x]illogic-al | what i had meant to say was, i disagree |
| 02:22.03 | Gentle | ;) |
| 02:22.03 | smileaf | couldn't tell there x |
| 02:22.26 | [x]illogic-al | I have an onboard card and it's been useable for ~1-2 years now thanks to dmix |
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| 02:22.42 | firephoto | *dmix didn't work out of the box until about 6 months ago... |
| 02:22.50 | [x]illogic-al | well thanks to dmix and the boys in #amaroK who introduced me to dmix. |
| 02:23.14 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: just because it didn't work "out of the box" didn't make it unuseable |
| 02:23.28 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: your modified statement i'm more inclined to agree with. |
| 02:23.35 | firephoto | ;) |
| 02:23.45 | Q-collective | heh |
| 02:24.05 | Q-collective | seems to support my point |
| 02:24.06 | Q-collective | useless |
| 02:24.07 | Q-collective | :) |
| 02:24.08 | firephoto | has arts = has system sounds. |
| 02:24.31 | Q-collective | anyone? :p |
| 02:24.37 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: you don't have to use arts to get system sounds. |
| 02:24.44 | firephoto | when I did use arts i never had any issues with it. |
| 02:25.02 | [x]illogic-al | i use ogg123 for system sounds now. |
| 02:25.06 | [x]illogic-al | works wonders. |
| 02:25.11 | firephoto | [x]illogic-al: i didn't say i used arts.. i said i had it. (no arts, kdelibs doesn't build system sound pieces) |
| 02:25.13 | smileaf | well I got a artsd running o.o |
| 02:25.27 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: yeah, i know. |
| 02:25.55 | firephoto | and still you don't get multiple system sounds at once.. |
| 02:26.25 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: i do. |
| 02:27.01 | firephoto | [x]illogic-al: so you get a windows closing sound and a kopete sound at the same time (overlapped) ? |
| 02:27.04 | [x]illogic-al | well, i _used_ to. now i use an ogg123 which has been compiled with libao support (EVIL!) and libao doesn't support alsa1.x |
| 02:27.13 | [x]illogic-al | at least not the version i have here on pclos .92 |
| 02:27.33 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: when i had ogg123 w/ out libao support, yes. |
| 02:27.41 | firephoto | i haven't found anything yet that will fire off multiple sounds... ok. i'll try that. |
| 02:27.47 | [x]illogic-al | i think. :-) |
| 02:28.08 | [x]illogic-al | i remember at least testing dmix w/ multiple ogg123 commads |
| 02:28.17 | Q-collective | just open amarok, bmp, xmms and do some system sounds? :p |
| 02:28.24 | firephoto | i'm thinking this is a limitation of knotify.. |
| 02:28.40 | firephoto | maybe if knotify was pointed at a script it would work better. |
| 02:28.43 | [x]illogic-al | firephoto: maybe, maybe not. i can't remember really :-) |
| 02:29.23 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: and put system sounds in the play queue so that i hear it 10 minutes later after my playlist finishes? |
| 02:29.35 | Q-collective | heh |
| 02:29.38 | [x]illogic-al | Q-collective: or have it wipe the playlist say the it gets played instantly? |
| 02:29.51 | [x]illogic-al | brilliant. |
| 02:29.54 | Q-collective | play them *both*? |
| 02:29.58 | Q-collective | :-) |
| 02:29.59 | firephoto | ogg123 didn't change anything.. i might have libao though. |
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| 02:33.18 | enginuitor | OK, I'm not sure whether I should be asking this in #kde or #gnome, but it sort-of involves both... For some reason, my GNOME font preferences aren't holding when I run GTK apps under KDE... |
| 02:34.00 | [x]illogic-al | apt: fonts |
| 02:34.03 | apt | rumour has it, fonts is check http://www.nwalsh.com/comp.fonts/FAQ/ for general info, http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html for installing packaged as well as not packaged truetype fonts, http://www.kegel.com/linux/tt.html and http://www.linux-mag.com/2000-02/guru_01.html and you can get the MS core fonts from http://corefonts.sourceforge.net/ now |
| 02:34.17 | [x]illogic-al | apt: gnome fonts |
| 02:34.31 | [x]illogic-al | guess that's not it |
| 02:34.33 | enginuitor | As soon as I run gnome-font-properties (without even doing anything), all the running GTK apps instantly snap to the right font |
| 02:34.41 | [x]illogic-al | enginuitor: yeahhhh |
| 02:34.47 | [x]illogic-al | that's what you gotta do |
| 02:35.19 | [x]illogic-al | enginuitor: when you run gnome this happens automatically but when in KDE you have to run it manually |
| 02:35.27 | enginuitor | ah |
| 02:35.29 | smileaf | enginuitor: I'd ask in #gnome and see what causes Gnome apps to do that, then add it to your ~/Autostart |
| 02:35.36 | enginuitor | OK |
| 02:35.37 | fredrikh | enginuitor: KDE exports it's palette and font settings to gnome |
| 02:35.41 | [x]illogic-al | enginuitor: you can throw that in a script in the ~/.kde/Autostart directory |
| 02:35.56 | fredrikh | enginuitor: try unchecking the option for that in the color settings in kcontrol |
| 02:36.08 | enginuitor | OK |
| 02:36.50 | enginuitor | Hmm, there's only a checkbox for color settings |
| 02:37.00 | fredrikh | enginuitor: it means both :) |
| 02:37.07 | enginuitor | Hmm, OK |
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| 02:37.47 | enginuitor | Lemme restart KDE and see if that worked |
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| 02:43.40 | Q-collective | hf [_]illogic-al |
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| 02:48.06 | DietrichR | I'm so glad that Gnome exists... the true beauty of KDE would go unrecognized otherwise |
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| 02:48.59 | sunru | hi |
| 02:49.21 | Q-collective | DietrichR: lol, probably true though :p |
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| 03:03.49 | P-Luc_Auclair | hey is it normal that I cannot get antialiasing in KGhostView ? even if it is enabled? |
| 03:05.39 | fredrikh | P-Luc_Auclair: try kpdf |
| 03:05.53 | P-Luc_Auclair | ok |
| 03:06.08 | Q-collective | :) |
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| 03:07.40 | P-Luc_Auclair | no antialiasing there either :S |
| 03:10.02 | sunru | kpdf is teh pwn |
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| 03:11.23 | P-Luc_Auclair | really, noone knows? |
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| 03:12.18 | HuntsMan | P-Luc_Auclair: kde version? |
| 03:12.24 | P-Luc_Auclair | 3.5.1 |
| 03:12.45 | [_]illogic-al | P-Luc_Auclair: ok. follow me |
| 03:12.49 | [_]illogic-al | open kcontrol |
| 03:13.01 | P-Luc_Auclair | as user or root? |
| 03:13.10 | [_]illogic-al | go to Appearance and Themes -> Fonts |
| 03:13.26 | P-Luc_Auclair | I'm there |
| 03:13.49 | [_]illogic-al | there is a checkbox, [] Use anti-aliased fonts |
| 03:13.54 | [_]illogic-al | is it checked? |
| 03:13.55 | P-Luc_Auclair | it's enabled |
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| 03:14.16 | [_]illogic-al | P-Luc_Auclair: thne your pdf file's chosen font wasn't antialiased. |
| 03:14.35 | P-Luc_Auclair | it's not just the fonts, lines aren't too |
| 03:14.41 | P-Luc_Auclair | the whole deal isn't |
| 03:14.45 | [_]illogic-al | lines? |
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| 03:14.51 | P-Luc_Auclair | vectors |
| 03:15.00 | [_]illogic-al | you lost me. |
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| 03:16.17 | P-Luc_Auclair | heh.. ok |
| 03:17.21 | [_]illogic-al | P-Luc_Auclair: you can check in xpdf and acrobat just to make sure, but i think it's your pdf file that is the problem not anythiong else. |
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| 03:18.57 | P-Luc_Auclair | there's nothing wrong with my documenst |
| 03:19.11 | P-Luc_Auclair | I'll try updating ghostscript instead |
| 03:21.19 | [_]illogic-al | P-Luc_Auclair: does it display properly anywhere? |
| 03:21.45 | P-Luc_Auclair | in Adobe Reader |
| 03:21.45 | P-Luc_Auclair | but Adobe Reader is buggy |
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| 03:22.28 | DaSkreech | E Roxxor my Soxxors |
| 03:22.32 | DaSkreech | == |
| 03:22.49 | DaSkreech | KDE4 Roxxors my Soxxors :-D |
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| 03:24.22 | DaSkreech | [x]illogic-al: Lovers Rock? |
| 03:24.33 | [x]illogic-al | awesome album |
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| 03:45.49 | bignose_ | hi |
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| 03:54.01 | [x]illogic-al | new gnome default theme looks good. |
| 03:54.21 | bignose_ | for some reason, in amarok, shuffle is always greyed out. |
| 03:54.27 | [x]illogic-al | awesome. Now we can get something better and beat them again :-) |
| 03:54.52 | [x]illogic-al | bignose_: -> #amaroK |
| 03:55.17 | bignose_ | okie. |
| 03:57.09 | toothpick | How can I have openoffice use the kde pdf printer? |
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| 03:58.39 | Ringwraith` | cant oo save to pdf |
| 03:59.13 | toothpick | Ringwraith`: yes it can, but I want to save as a poster size |
| 03:59.26 | toothpick | I want to make my 8.5 x 11 like 4 x 4 |
| 04:02.48 | Cicciux | ok, I have kde3.4 |
| 04:03.01 | Cicciux | and Installed kde3.5 |
| 04:03.12 | Cicciux | how do I make it start kde3.5 instead of 3.4? |
| 04:04.02 | Ringwraith` | where did you install kde3.5 into |
| 04:04.54 | Cicciux | Ringwraith` I don't know, i installed it with portage to the default directory |
| 04:05.27 | Ringwraith` | do a which startkde |
| 04:05.44 | Cicciux | /usr/kde/3.4/bin/ |
| 04:05.54 | Cicciux | I guess it's installed in /usr/kde/3.5 then |
| 04:05.59 | Ringwraith` | do you have a /usr/kde/3.5 ? |
| 04:06.10 | Cicciux | yes |
| 04:06.20 | Ringwraith` | then that is the problem |
| 04:06.26 | Ringwraith` | fix your path |
| 04:07.13 | Cicciux | will do.. :-) |
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| 04:28.25 | toothpick | How do I have kprinter called by other apps, such as open office? |
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| 05:06.31 | stoned | what is a kde app which I can use to record stuff through microphone? |
| 05:07.43 | lostson | krecord |
| 05:09.15 | stoned | ahh |
| 05:09.16 | stoned | thanks |
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| 05:11.45 | lostson | or krec in the menu |
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| 05:38.29 | stoned | my mic is working, I can hear myself when I talk into it, volume levels in kmix are perfectly good, green lights are on, and they are full. None of the sound recording apps give me any errors, but I can't seem to get any thing recorded. Audacity, krecord, krec, etc. nothing will record anything. just an empty file. I cant figure it out, pleae help |
| 05:38.41 | stoned | I am using kubuntu 5.10 |
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| 05:39.13 | stoned | sound works on the system though, but amarok will not work with arts plugin or gstreamer plugin, only with xine plugin |
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| 05:49.22 | Ze-M | stoned: who told u that?? |
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| 05:49.26 | Tomasu | I'm having an odd issue with fonts in X, they seem to be rendering characters a little too close together. |
| 05:51.14 | Ze-M | Tomasu: edit /etc/X11/Xresources and put as cooment line: Xft.dpi: 90 |
| 05:51.26 | Ze-M | Tomasu: or adjust to what u like |
| 05:51.47 | Tomasu | ah. thanks. |
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| 05:52.04 | Tomasu | file doesnt exist.. |
| 05:54.09 | Ze-M | what distro u use |
| 05:54.16 | Tomasu | gentoo |
| 05:54.26 | Ze-M | or run locate Xresources |
| 05:54.38 | Tomasu | yeah, I found one in xdm's dir, but no dpi |
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| 05:54.47 | Ze-M | gentoo is for experienced users |
| 05:55.07 | Tomasu | well, I'm mostly experienced ;) some X details I'm not so sharp on |
| 05:55.24 | qupada | Ze-M: i disagree. i installed gentoo when i had very little linux knowledge, with only the guidebook to help me, and it turned out fine |
| 05:55.43 | Ze-M | qupada: even better |
| 05:55.47 | Tomasu | qupada: as long as you can follow directions, and read the docs, gentoo can teach alot. |
| 05:56.09 | Tomasu | I however switched from debian a couple years ago... |
| 05:56.17 | qupada | exactly. everything seems easy now, about 18 months later |
| 05:56.30 | Tomasu | gentoo's sys admin is really easy. |
| 05:56.37 | Tomasu | so many helper programs and scripts. |
| 05:57.07 | qupada | it's things like alsa configuration that annoys users from other distros... because nothing gets hidden by a fancy config tool, you have to deal to it manuallu |
| 05:57.11 | qupada | manually* |
| 05:58.06 | Tomasu | looks like I should just create a ~/.Xresources |
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| 06:02.40 | qupada | Tomasu: so from a debian user switching to gentoo, what was your first impression of it? |
| 06:03.01 | Tomasu | besides the lack of the installer, it was slick, and familiar. |
| 06:03.10 | Tomasu | and not ancient. |
| 06:03.25 | Tomasu | I switched due to kde being a year behind at that point. |
| 06:03.54 | qupada | yeah, i noticed that. 3.4 was out before debian had 3.3 |
| 06:04.58 | Tomasu | I really did like debian though. |
| 06:05.16 | qupada | they are working on an installer too, it looks pretty nice, although presently offers no guarantee it won't tank your system |
| 06:05.45 | Tomasu | my first linux install was "redhat". it totally failed. Mandrake worked like a charm for a good year till rpm blew up twice, and I decided then to switch away from rpm forever. |
| 06:06.12 | qupada | heh, my first was redhat too... 7.1 i think |
| 06:06.23 | Tomasu | yeah, I was following the debian installer project for a while.. while I was still using debian. |
| 06:06.28 | Tomasu | and they are still at it.. |
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| 06:07.47 | Tomasu | I'm going to restart X, see if the changes I made help.. |
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| 06:09.50 | Tomasu | no go... |
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| 06:11.07 | qupada | what are you trying to fix? |
| 06:11.31 | Tomasu | font glyphs being rendered all squished |
| 06:11.42 | Tomasu | especially in konsome |
| 06:11.46 | Tomasu | *konsole |
| 06:12.26 | qupada | damn. can't say i've ever come across that before myself |
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| 06:13.00 | qupada | you have reminded me of something though. i need to remove the section i added to my xorg.conf that supports a mouse on my wacom tablet, because i don't own one |
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| 06:26.17 | stoned | Ze-M, who told me what? |
| 06:26.34 | stoned | sound works on the system though, but amarok will not work with arts plugin or gstreamer plugin, only with xine plugin <-- i asked about this, which i still havn't solved btw |
| 06:26.57 | stoned | and also that nothing records |
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| 06:27.17 | stoned | mic works, i can hear myself from the speakers when i talk into it, but nothing will get recorded |
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| 06:33.13 | Mez | whats the best way to add a new app to playground? |
| 06:33.22 | Mez | (aka whats standard practice to do this) |
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| 07:20.37 | Tomasu | would anyone happen to know how to fix: "couldn't open fontconfigs chosen font with Xft!!!" |
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| 07:41.28 | deviant | could anyone tell me what kde system monitor this person is running? http://www.kde-look.org/content/files/22203-2.jpg |
| 07:41.35 | brianski | howdy - how can i bind keyboard shortcuts to kmix so i can set the volume up and down by typing? |
| 07:42.01 | brianski | deviant - mmm, semi-macolischious |
| 07:42.25 | deviant | brianski, what?? |
| 07:42.27 | deviant | haha |
| 07:42.27 | Bread | night folks.# |
| 07:42.34 | brianski | deviant - it looks a bit like mac os x |
| 07:42.38 | deviant | ah |
| 07:44.01 | deviant | brianski - i just found out, it's Superkaramba |
| 07:44.08 | deviant | goin to get it :) |
| 07:44.21 | brianski | superkaramba |
| 07:44.25 | brianski | sounds like supercollider |
| 07:44.42 | deviant | hehe |
| 07:44.44 | brianski | in case anyone was wondering about my questjion, it's in kmix -> configure glocal shortcuts |
| 07:46.34 | deviant | im outta here...take it easy |
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| 07:48.30 | Tomasu | funky. after all this, its the Lucida Console font that gets "not found by fontconfig via xft" |
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| 07:49.07 | Tomasu | but only in konsole? :o |
| 07:49.14 | simeon | this is one ugly client |
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| 07:51.48 | darth_chatri | how do i add a new keyboard layout? |
| 07:51.51 | brianski | how can i see how much battery i have left on kde? |
| 07:52.05 | darth_chatri | brianski: klaptop |
| 07:52.32 | brianski | darth_chatri: bash: klaptop: command not found |
| 07:52.41 | brianski | what subpackage does it live in? |
| 07:54.12 | darth_chatri | brianski: do you get anything in the power control section of control center? |
| 07:55.05 | brianski | darth_chatri - i don't even see a power control section... |
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| 07:57.24 | darth_chatri | brianski: i guess it comes in kdebase, not sure though |
| 07:57.38 | darth_chatri | do you have ACPI enabled? |
| 07:58.36 | brianski | darth_chatri - dmesg thinks so |
| 07:58.40 | brianski | i'm running freebsd if it matters |
| 07:59.33 | darth_chatri | not quite sure about freebsd |
| 08:00.46 | brianski | the io ports portion of kinfocenter lists acpi info... |
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| 08:04.03 | brianski | i don't even have a klaptop binary tho |
| 08:04.08 | brianski | so i'm thinking i missed something in the install |
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| 08:12.18 | brianski | ah hah |
| 08:12.30 | brianski | in freebsd the magic seems to be in /usr/ports/sysutils/klaptopdaemon |
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| 08:25.50 | brianski | how do you start an arbitrary kde command minimized? |
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| 08:30.28 | flogiston | Can i make a symlink to a game binary an put into /usr/bin tod make it run? |
| 08:30.36 | brianski | ksystraycmd if anyone was wondering |
| 08:30.43 | brianski | flogiston - sure |
| 08:31.08 | flogiston | Cool |
| 08:31.25 | flogiston | So i just typ the name of the link in the terminal to run it. |
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| 08:34.16 | flogiston | I cant run it when just typing the name of the symlink |
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| 08:41.50 | fek | moin |
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| 08:42.55 | brianski | uhh |
| 08:43.14 | brianski | when i go to konsole and select "new root shell" as an unprivileged user, how come it doesn't ask for a password or anything? |
| 08:43.43 | MikeMcA | hello. are there hot-keys to switch between multiple desktops? I don't want to use the mouse-wheel |
| 08:44.32 | MikeMcA | brianski: does for me |
| 08:44.37 | PhilRod | MikeMcA: Ctrl+Tab |
| 08:44.41 | PhilRod | of Ctrl+F<n> |
| 08:44.45 | MikeMcA | brianski: are you possibly already su-ed? |
| 08:44.54 | PhilRod | where <n> is the number of the virtual desktop you want to go to |
| 08:45.03 | MikeMcA | oh yeah, that is the bomb |
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| 08:45.05 | MikeMcA | thanks guys |
| 08:45.10 | PhilRod | yw |
| 08:46.57 | brianski | MikeMcA - nope |
| 08:47.14 | brianski | i am listed in sudoers |
| 08:47.16 | brianski | maybe that's it? |
| 08:47.34 | brianski | actually that could make sense |
| 08:47.38 | brianski | if it just invokes sudo bash |
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| 08:50.18 | MikeMcA | brianski: that should still require a password shouldn't it? |
| 08:50.57 | MikeMcA | if you just open a shell normally and do a whoami you're not root are you? |
| 08:52.04 | MikeMcA | otherwise I have no clue. I have never seen that behavior |
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| 08:54.28 | MikeMcA | I guess the other thing to try would be to double-check that when you request a root shell that's really what you're getting |
| 08:54.56 | MikeMcA | anyway good luck! |
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| 08:57.05 | visik7 | anyone lives in uk ? |
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| 08:59.33 | PhilRod | visik7: abot 60 million people do |
| 08:59.48 | visik7 | someone which is here |
| 09:00.05 | visik7 | just to make they know about this site http://www.followus.co.uk/ |
| 09:01.07 | Ilpo2 | Heeh my KDE 3.4.1 has been up 20 days :) |
| 09:01.34 | Q-collective | Ilpo2: why is that anything special? ;) |
| 09:01.56 | Q-collective | and isn't it about time you upgraded to 3.5.1? :p |
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| 09:04.49 | Mish_ | How do I add my items to the desktop root menu ? |
| 09:05.19 | Mish_ | (root menu - that pops at mouse right click over the desktop background) |
| 09:05.46 | Ilpo2 | This runs on FC2 and I have not succeeded to compile with konstruct or rebuild from FC4 |
| 09:06.59 | Q-collective | re-sist-ing |
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| 09:09.24 | qupada | Q-collective: at least you have choices... gentoo, kubuntu, other things that aren't fedora |
| 09:09.52 | Q-collective | yeah :) |
| 09:11.47 | Mish_ | This 'adding items to the root menu' issue worries me. |
| 09:12.03 | PhilRod | visik7: what is it? does it have anything to do with KDE? |
| 09:12.27 | visik7 | PhilRod: nothing it's just funny |
| 09:12.57 | PhilRod | visik7: ? are you link spamming? |
| 09:13.04 | Q-collective | Mish_: I'm not sure about it, but doesn't kde use the fdo spec? (thus you need to create or edit a .desktop file in /usr/share/applications or ~/.local/share/applications) |
| 09:13.06 | visik7 | it's not spam |
| 09:13.07 | visik7 | ... |
| 09:14.08 | PhilRod | Mish_: you can edit it in the control center. Um, somewhere in "desktop", I think |
| 09:14.09 | qupada | Q-collective: i personally like gentoo's method of "upgrading" between "releases"... you just change the symlink /etc/make.profile to point to the new release you want to use and run the regular system update command (emerge -DNu world). very seldom now does it involve manual work |
| 09:14.21 | PhilRod | Mish_: you can't add items, but you can set a custom menu |
| 09:14.58 | qupada | visik7: i think i was reading about that on slashdot. only accurate to 100m or so isn't it? |
| 09:15.06 | Q-collective | qupada: even stronger, changing the profile symlink is also done automagically these days ;) |
| 09:15.08 | Q-collective | iirc |
| 09:15.20 | visik7 | qupada: only ? |
| 09:15.39 | Q-collective | Mish_: did you even read what I said? |
| 09:15.40 | Q-collective | :p |
| 09:15.43 | Mish_ | Q: where can I read about format of .desktop file ? |
| 09:15.51 | Q-collective | open one |
| 09:16.01 | Q-collective | it's pretty self explainatory |
| 09:16.19 | Mish_ | no such file |
| 09:16.27 | Mish_ | wait |
| 09:16.51 | Mish_ | not in my ~, that is |
| 09:17.01 | Q-collective | that would be a fair guess |
| 09:17.06 | sredna | Icons on your desktop are .desktop files, and so is various mimetypes, application descriptions, service definitions etc |
| 09:17.12 | qupada | visik7: a 100m radius circle is quite a large area, ~31,400 square metres |
| 09:17.18 | Q-collective | since most apps you install are installed on a systemwide basis |
| 09:17.29 | sredna | Mish_: And you can find information on freedesktop.org I believe |
| 09:17.34 | Q-collective | Mish_: look in /usr/share/applications |
| 09:18.13 | Mish_ | lot of files in /usr/share/applications |
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| 09:20.13 | Mish_ | No .desktop files in the whole filesystem |
| 09:20.20 | Mish_ | Or did you mean *.desktop files ? |
| 09:21.06 | PhilRod | *.desktop |
| 09:21.11 | Mish_ | ah |
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| 09:21.32 | Mish_ | yea, there are lot of *.desktop files in /usr/share/applications |
| 09:22.37 | qupada | visik7: and you have to remember the service only works because of the way cellphone towers hande roamining... the communicating of the phone to two towers as the call is passed from one to the other (soft handoff). like it says on their page, in rural areas (much larger distance between towers) you can easily be limited to "this user is in the coverage area of :this: cellphone tower", and given gsm services have a range of about 32km, that con |
| 09:23.38 | Mish_ | But *.desktop files seem to contain just translations of strings ... |
| 09:23.56 | visik7 | forunately I don't live in uk |
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| 09:24.57 | qupada | visik7: i wouldn't be paranoid about it anyway... the wonderful thing about prepay cellphones is you can just throw out the sim card and buy a new one |
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| 09:25.01 | Mish_ | My question was how do I add items to the root menu |
| 09:26.21 | PhilRod | Mish_: and my answer was "you can't" :-) |
| 09:26.52 | visik7 | or better u can't easily |
| 09:26.52 | PhilRod | although your terminology is a little confusing - better to call it the 'desktop right-click menu' or something |
| 09:27.15 | PhilRod | visik7: I didn't check carefully, but I think you can't at all, since you can't put all the default items in a custom menu |
| 09:27.22 | PhilRod | Mish_: did you find the custom menu setting? |
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| 09:29.04 | Mish_ | PhilRod: nothing in the COntrolCenter->Desktop, no ? |
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| 09:32.39 | visik7 | PhilRod: when I say "not easily" I mean "without puts your hand into the code" |
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| 09:37.10 | PhilRod | Mish_: control center -> desktop -> behaviour -> mouse button actions -> right button -> custom menu 1 |
| 09:37.22 | PhilRod | visik7: well, ok |
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| 09:54.42 | brianski | where in the control center can i disable the bouncig icons? |
| 09:55.51 | PhilRod | find "launch feedback" |
| 09:56.40 | brianski | ahhh, thank you! |
| 09:56.53 | PhilRod | yw |
| 09:56.59 | brianski | i've always hated that |
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| 10:03.08 | mobtek | wow banshee is pretty crappy compared to amarok |
| 10:04.34 | mobtek | haha the volume slider is the wrong way around kekeke |
| 10:05.13 | mobtek | back to amarok for me |
| 10:05.49 | qupada | i'm sticking with mpd. ever since i've used it i don't like media players that stop playing if i kill X |
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| 10:07.55 | mobtek | hah right |
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| 10:30.54 | Giorgos | hi, is there anything like windows "My Computer" in Fedora KDE? |
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| 10:31.33 | mark_alec | Giorgos: open konqueror and type system:// in the location bar |
| 10:31.59 | mark_alec | system:/ <-- only one / |
| 10:32.37 | Giorgos | mark_alec, nice :) but how can I have it on Desktop? |
| 10:33.01 | dolmans | I am not a native english, so I sometimes use input method to input my own lanuage, if I set GTK_IM_MODULE then I can use that input method even in en_US.UTF-8 locale, but I cannot do that by setting QT_INPUT_MODULE in en_US locale, is this a KDE feature or just that input method feature? |
| 10:34.28 | Giorgos | mark_alec, okl i found it! |
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| 10:35.54 | thiago | dolmans: what do you mean? |
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| 10:37.31 | dolmans | thiago: I mean in en_US.UTF-8 locale, can I use some input method program like SCIM? if you don't use input method, this question perhaps not for you:) |
| 10:38.52 | thiago | yes, you can |
| 10:38.55 | thiago | qscim, but it crashes a lot |
| 10:39.52 | dolmans | dose there something special I must pay attention to? |
| 10:44.11 | Mish_ | dolmans: traffic lights :-) |
| 10:46.08 | dolmans | Mish_: I am in office now, so ... |
| 10:47.02 | Mish_ | then watch for the boss |
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| 10:47.59 | dolmans | It's all nonsense, I am self-employed |
| 10:48.59 | reinhold | Can anyone tell me how to disable the "shortkeys" in konqueror (the annoyin yellow letters that appear when you press Ctrl in konqueror and release it)? |
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| 10:49.53 | benJIman|tov | reinhold: add [Access Keys] Enabled=false to ~/.kde/share/config/konquerorrc |
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| 10:50.42 | benJIman|tov | once you get used to them you can't do without them though |
| 10:50.46 | benJIman|tov | saves having to reach for the mouse |
| 10:51.15 | reinhold | benJIman|tov: Thanks. Too bad that there's no GUI option. |
| 10:52.06 | reinhold | benJIman|tov: It directly interferes with the way I do web browsing (one hand at the mouse, the other at the keyboard for Ctrl+something and Alt+Tab,etc.). |
| 10:52.34 | benJIman|tov | yeah a 2 button shortcut would probably be better |
| 10:52.52 | benJIman|tov | I think people are aware of that |
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| 10:54.35 | reinhold | benJIman|tov: Regularly I'm about to press Ctrl+something, so I hold down the Ctrl key, but then decide otherwise and release the Ctrl-key (I'm usually not even thinking). The yellow boxes then hide half of the page, and disturb my flow of thoughts. |
| 10:54.44 | km0ti0n_ | How do I unstall flash player for konqueror |
| 10:55.07 | benJIman|tov | reinhold: indeed, it's like in windows when you press the win key and the menu pops up, so annoying |
| 10:55.32 | benJIman|tov | km0ti0n_: if it's installed for firefox then you can just point konqueror at it |
| 10:55.40 | benJIman|tov | if not install as for firefox |
| 10:55.50 | benJIman|tov | preferably from your distribution packages |
| 10:56.00 | reinhold | benJIman|tov: Exactly, after all Ctrl is a *modifier* key, not an action key. |
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| 10:56.08 | km0ti0n_ | benJIman|tov, It's installed and working fo rFF |
| 10:57.10 | benJIman|tov | km0ti0n_: if your distro had set it up properly it would just work in konqueror, otherwise settings -> configure konqueror -> plugins, and add the directory where it is installed to the search list and click "scan for new plugins" |
| 10:57.29 | km0ti0n_ | sweet |
| 10:57.31 | benJIman|tov | of course if you're on a 64bit system you'd need the 32bit netscape plugin support |
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| 10:58.54 | km0ti0n_ | Great, scanning has found it. thanks, benJIman|tov |
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| 10:59.45 | macavity | hi guys :-) |
| 11:00.09 | macavity | im having a little trouble with filesharing.. |
| 11:01.04 | macavity | my smb.conf is root:users -rw-rw-r-- |
| 11:01.21 | PhilRod | reinhold: the shortcut's set to be changed, but can't happen till KDE 4 |
| 11:01.26 | PhilRod | well, s/can't/won't/ |
| 11:01.55 | macavity | but KDE's share tab keeps bugging me with a password.. that should not be nessesary, as i am a member of the users group |
| 11:01.58 | macavity | any ideas? |
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| 11:05.30 | vdv | hello |
| 11:05.46 | macavity | 'lo :-) |
| 11:06.33 | macavity | btw.. im using 3.5.1 on Slackware 10.2 |
| 11:06.35 | vdv | where kde saves links to progs, that must restored in next session? |
| 11:07.52 | grepper | vdv: $KDEHOME/.kde/share/config/session/ ( often ~/.kde/share/config/session/) |
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| 11:08.03 | grepper | is where the info about the sessions is kept |
| 11:08.14 | vdv | hmm.. i'm starting my prog from menu, then logging off and logon again |
| 11:08.44 | vdv | prog restores.. but not with command from menu |
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| 11:10.40 | vdv | and if I have program that I must run as root and it must stay on in tray forever, then every time I logon it asks a password |
| 11:11.11 | macavity | vdv: that is the nature of unix... |
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| 11:11.34 | macavity | as in, you cannot preserver authentication across sessions/reboots |
| 11:11.38 | vdv | but I'm using sudo! |
| 11:11.56 | macavity | yes.. and sudo prompts for a password |
| 11:12.04 | vdv | no |
| 11:12.08 | macavity | no?!? |
| 11:13.41 | vdv | %wheel ALL= (ALL) NOPASSWD: /usr/sbin/cdcontrol,/usr/local/bin/kwikdisk |
| 11:13.55 | vdv | that from my sudoers file |
| 11:14.13 | vdv | kwikdisk is my prog |
| 11:14.35 | macavity | and in the tray you have command= sudo kvikdisk? |
| 11:15.00 | macavity | s/v/w/ |
| 11:15.27 | macavity | apt: wrong.. lame bot |
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| 11:24.19 | vdv | and it must run from the menu with : sudo kwikdisk |
| 11:24.19 | vdv | yes |
| 11:24.19 | vdv | and it runs |
| 11:24.19 | vdv | but when I logoff/login |
| 11:24.19 | vdv | kde promts for passwd |
| 11:24.25 | vdv | surely kde tries to run kwikdisk not with sudo kwikdisk |
| 11:24.29 | vdv | so, question is when kde restores session.. |
| 11:24.31 | vdv | where it takes the commands? |
| 11:25.22 | vdv | connection was dropped |
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| 11:27.00 | _beastie_ | sorry, connection dropped |
| 11:27.45 | RossC0 | hello quick question - how do I change the menu stripes as visible from the add applet to panel menu ? |
| 11:28.48 | mark_alec | RossC0: right click on panel - configure --> appearance --> advanced and you will find the checkbox for them |
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| 11:29.49 | vdv | macavity, are u here? |
| 11:30.26 | RossC0 | hmm - still coming up black - so I can only see the icon not the text... |
| 11:31.03 | macavity | vdv: that i dont know.. i was looking for it, but has not found an answer yet |
| 11:31.18 | vdv | ok :) |
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| 11:32.38 | macavity | *grrrr* |
| 11:32.50 | macavity | KDE doesnt love me anymore :-/ |
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| 11:33.13 | ejofee | in kaffeine, why is the subtitle font blurred or unclear, as though it's rendered together with the film? why is it not elegant and clear just like a vectorial font? |
| 11:34.02 | vdv | it's somehow strange, in $KDEHOME/.kde/share/config/session/, I can't find all my progs runned in previos session in that folder |
| 11:34.48 | PhilRod | vdv: look in ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc |
| 11:35.21 | PhilRod | RossC0: do you mean the alternating colour in listviews? |
| 11:36.23 | PhilRod | if so, look in control center -> appearance & t -> colours |
| 11:37.16 | macavity | PhilRod: you happen to be a KDE/samba integration expert too? |
| 11:37.57 | vdv | ok, that's is... there are info about progs that must be restored... but how I can make kde put here sudo kwikdisk instead of kwikdisk ? |
| 11:38.30 | RossC0 | PhilRod: Many Thanks! |
| 11:38.36 | PhilRod | macavity: I know what samba is, that's about it |
| 11:38.47 | macavity | hmm :P |
| 11:38.50 | vdv | "program4=sudo kwikdisk" instead of "program4=kwikdisk" |
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| 11:39.32 | macavity | kde does not seem to recognice that i can write to smb.conf, so it bugs me with a password that is not nessecary |
| 11:40.18 | macavity | s/c/z/ |
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| 11:40.38 | macavity | apt: !bot off |
| 11:41.03 | vdv | what's the ksmserver and what it does? |
| 11:41.10 | PhilRod | macavity: you could try looking in the code to see if the dialog is hardcoded. Does it work if you enter the password correctly? What about incorrectly? |
| 11:41.21 | PhilRod | vdv: SM=session management |
| 11:41.48 | macavity | PhilRod: i dont grok C++ :-( |
| 11:42.19 | vdv | there is nothing about ksmserver in help, nor man |
| 11:42.36 | vdv | so where I can read about it? about options? |
| 11:42.37 | macavity | and incorect pass does not work.. as it is the standard "we need root for this" |
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| 11:43.28 | cobelloy | hello there - I have a problem with my keyboard in KDE, can anyone help? |
| 11:43.44 | macavity | whats the problem? |
| 11:43.54 | cobelloy | it doesnt work anymore... |
| 11:44.06 | cobelloy | but works fine on windows and gnome |
| 11:44.25 | cobelloy | there was an error mssg about keyboard repeat and the shift key |
| 11:44.28 | macavity | that is a bit vague... can you describe "doesnt work" a little better? |
| 11:44.34 | PhilRod | macavity: if you put the correct password, does it write to smb.conf? |
| 11:44.45 | macavity | PhilRod: yes |
| 11:44.51 | cobelloy | none of the keys have any action |
| 11:45.05 | macavity | ahh.. as in, totally dead? |
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| 11:45.12 | cobelloy | but only in kde |
| 11:45.24 | cobelloy | it works during log in stage |
| 11:45.34 | cobelloy | totally dead, yes |
| 11:45.47 | cobelloy | and works with gnome or windows |
| 11:45.59 | macavity | ok.. try and remove *all* settings in the keyboard section in kontrolcenter |
| 11:46.17 | macavity | language, model, xkb extentions etc |
| 11:46.29 | cobelloy | the only settings are keyboard repeat and numlock - have tried all combinations |
| 11:46.40 | vdv | cobeloy, what version of kde? |
| 11:46.45 | vdv | 3.5? |
| 11:46.51 | cobelloy | is there a file somewhere I can alter? |
| 11:47.11 | cobelloy | not too sure - I downloaded the kubuntu package very recently |
| 11:47.18 | macavity | so you have a US keyboard? |
| 11:47.25 | cobelloy | so should be most recent or maybe last release |
| 11:47.43 | cobelloy | it is a cheap kbd I bought in australia (where I am) |
| 11:47.50 | vdv | just press kde start menu and look at left side of it |
| 11:47.50 | macavity | ok |
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| 11:48.00 | cobelloy | but I have always called it a us keymap |
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| 11:48.16 | jarango | Can I make aRts use dmix ? |
| 11:48.19 | macavity | cobelloy: could you find out what kde you have? |
| 11:48.21 | PhilRod | cobelloy: create a new user. Start KDE as that user. Tell us if the keyboard works there |
| 11:48.24 | arrinmurr | is there a shortcut for "no border" in kwin (or something)? |
| 11:48.25 | cobelloy | it sets up in windows as a us keymap |
| 11:48.33 | PhilRod | arrinmurr: see kstart --help |
| 11:48.39 | vdv | by the way, is sticky switching working in kde 3.5? |
| 11:48.46 | PhilRod | arrinmurr: there's something about it in the user guide, section "advanced window management": |
| 11:48.48 | PhilRod | ~uh |
| 11:48.49 | apt | i guess uh is gay |
| 11:48.50 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 11:48.51 | apt | ug is, like, http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
| 11:48.53 | macavity | cobelloy: i hink PhilRod has a point there.. could you try that? |
| 11:48.54 | cobelloy | mac - probably - it might take a few minutes tho - dont forget me while Im gone tho OK? |
| 11:49.27 | macavity | i wont |
| 11:49.35 | cobelloy | OK, will log in to KDE - new usr and find ourt what version - will be back tho OK? |
| 11:49.46 | macavity | sure |
| 11:49.52 | cobelloy | cya soon |
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| 11:50.11 | macavity | so fast one gets girlfreinds on irc..... ;-) |
| 11:50.20 | jarango | Can I set aRts to use dmix in order to avoid conflicts with other apps ? |
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| 11:53.55 | PhilRod | jarango: not directly, but dmix might provide some means of doing it |
| 11:54.41 | Mish_ | what is name of KDE windows manager process ? |
| 11:54.44 | jarango | PhilRod: I have dmix setup and working, but I can't seem to find a way to tell arts to use dmix |
| 11:54.59 | macavity | Mish: kwin |
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| 11:55.21 | jarango | jarango: More precisely, I;d like to be able to tell arts to use alsa and specify the pcm name |
| 11:55.38 | arrinmurr | PhilRod: i know it's possible to start a program straight in no-border mode, or disable/enable the border in the window menu, but i'd like to do it by pressing some keys while a program is running |
| 11:55.45 | Mish_ | macavity: then how come I do 'ps -e|grep kwin' and no such process ? |
| 11:55.53 | PhilRod | jarango: if you're trying to do anything clever with sound, you might be best off ditching arts altogether |
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| 11:56.13 | PhilRod | jarango: you can get the kde system sounds to be played by an external player, and kde music apps will use a non-arts backend |
| 11:56.15 | pinotree | Mish_: try ps ux | grep kwin |
| 11:56.19 | pinotree | hello all =) |
| 11:56.31 | macavity | Mish: try ps -A | grep kwin |
| 11:56.47 | Mish_ | mac: ah ok thnx |
| 11:57.00 | jarango | PhilRod: But if I ditch arts what happens with KDE sound events ? |
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| 11:57.24 | arrinmurr | PhilRod: but i guess alt+f3 -> advanced -> no border is closest to what i'm looking for then :/ |
| 11:57.50 | PhilRod | arrinmurr: yup |
| 11:57.54 | macavity | PhilRod: if i grab the source, do you know where to start looking for the rightclick->properties thingie? |
| 11:58.02 | PhilRod | jarango: you can set them to be played by an external player of your choice |
| 11:58.14 | PhilRod | macavity: somewhere in kdebase or kdelibs, I guess |
| 11:58.22 | macavity | no shit... :-P |
| 11:58.27 | PhilRod | macavity: I'll look for two mins. If I can find it, I'll tell you |
| 11:58.38 | macavity | thx :-) |
| 11:58.42 | jarango | PhilRod: Is that done in control center -> sound system ? |
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| 11:58.51 | PhilRod | macavity: where do you get the right-click menu? |
| 11:58.57 | PhilRod | jarango: system notifications |
| 11:59.08 | macavity | in konq, any given dir |
| 11:59.21 | cobelloy | I am back - the new user kbd worked - but not sound (!!) and I am version 3.4.0 |
| 11:59.34 | jarango | PhilRod: Thanks, what's would be an appropriate app for this ? |
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| 11:59.37 | cobelloy | but original usr account - still no kbd |
| 11:59.58 | _beastie_ | cobelloy, also clean up /tmp dir |
| 12:00.01 | macavity | cobelloey: the sound thingie might be because you did not add the new user to the audio group |
| 12:00.14 | cobelloy | how do I clean up /tmp dir? |
| 12:00.23 | cobelloy | oh yes - probly |
| 12:00.30 | macavity | rm -rf /tmp/* |
| 12:00.38 | kami22 | hi can anyone help me my Numblock is not working under KDE. In KDM i can use it and in the Terminal i can use it too but when i start KDE it doesnt work? |
| 12:00.41 | cobelloy | didnt add new usr to any grps |
| 12:00.42 | macavity | but be logged out of X when you do it |
| 12:01.05 | _beastie_ | just logoff, clean all user's dir from kde, and do so with all tmp dirs in your enviroment |
| 12:01.09 | macavity | then rm -rf ~/.kde/ if you are brave :-P |
| 12:01.14 | PhilRod | no! |
| 12:01.17 | PhilRod | don't do that |
| 12:01.24 | PhilRod | ~dot-kde |
| 12:01.25 | apt | *Don't* remove ~/.kde: as well as your personal settings, it contains your address book and may contain your email. Rename the directory and restart KDE instead |
| 12:01.46 | _beastie_ | :) I'm always doing that |
| 12:01.54 | cobelloy | hang on - slow down - I am also a bit of a noob |
| 12:01.56 | _beastie_ | when something goes wrong |
| 12:02.48 | PhilRod | cobelloy: you just want to remove the keyboard-specific configs from ~/.kde |
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| 12:03.06 | cobelloy | how philrod? |
| 12:03.13 | cobelloy | can do it from gnome? |
| 12:03.24 | jarango | What would be an appropriate program to play system notifications in KDE ? |
| 12:03.26 | PhilRod | rename ~/.kde/share/config/kxkbrc |
| 12:04.08 | cobelloy | righto - hang on, I still have windows working aswell if it all goes badly wrong... |
| 12:04.15 | PhilRod | ditto khotkeysrc |
| 12:04.33 | PhilRod | can't think of any others, but move those two somewhere out of the way, and start kde again |
| 12:05.11 | PhilRod | jarango: don't know offhand - ogg123 might work, but better to find a multi-format player. See if you have akodeplay installed |
| 12:05.22 | pinotree | or play |
| 12:05.30 | pinotree | that's what i use as external player |
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| 12:05.59 | jarango | pinotree: play ? Did you mean aplay ? |
| 12:06.07 | pinotree | nono, "play" |
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| 12:06.31 | cobelloy | where am I likely to find the ~/.kde folder? |
| 12:06.41 | cobelloy | it is so hard to find things in gnome |
| 12:06.58 | jarango | pinotree: What package is that in |
| 12:07.10 | _beastie_ | sticky switching is not working. possible reason? |
| 12:07.11 | cobelloy | kubuntu |
| 12:07.33 | _beastie_ | it works in 3.4 but refuses in 3.5.1 |
| 12:07.45 | macavity | cobelloy: ~/ means /home/cobelloy (or whatever is abblicable) |
| 12:07.54 | pinotree | cobelloy: i have debian, but it should be the same: sox |
| 12:08.01 | cobelloy | right - OK (duh!!!) |
| 12:08.10 | pinotree | oups |
| 12:08.17 | pinotree | jarango: i have debian, but it should be the same: sox |
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| 12:08.37 | macavity | cobelloy: so ~/.kde is in /home/cobelloy/.kde/ which you can just type in the address bar in konq |
| 12:08.38 | nick01 | is it hard to get a webcam to work in kopete ? |
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| 12:10.50 | jarango | pinotree: thanks |
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| 12:11.18 | usuari1 | hola |
| 12:11.30 | macavity | aloha :-) |
| 12:11.45 | usuari1 | de donde sois?? |
| 12:12.06 | macavity | xfp tfqw stkniq? |
| 12:12.09 | cobelloy | OK - I dont have a file named kxkbrc in .kde/share/config directory |
| 12:12.11 | macavity | ;-) |
| 12:12.22 | usuari1 | mola |
| 12:12.46 | macavity | cobelloy: strange.. i have.. |
| 12:13.03 | usuari1 | un español por ahi?? |
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| 12:13.37 | macavity | what?!? |
| 12:14.44 | macavity | cobelloy: if all else fails, you can rename .kde to something else, and then restart kde.. an then hand-copy back the things you've lost |
| 12:15.09 | macavity | most notably the stuff in .kde/apps/ are of importance |
| 12:15.20 | macavity | s/are/is/ |
| 12:16.03 | macavity | apt: wee.. 1 out of 3 aint bad... keep practicing, and you may become a usefull bot some day.. in the next century |
| 12:16.42 | macavity | usuari1: i dont get a single word of spanish, sorry |
| 12:17.02 | qupada | heh... nice feature on the bot there |
| 12:17.15 | macavity | qupada: it gets it wrong most the time... |
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| 12:17.54 | macavity | something like dhis |
| 12:17.58 | macavity | s/d/t/ |
| 12:18.03 | cobelloy | what happens if i rename .kde - will kde start again in some default fasion? |
| 12:18.08 | macavity | wow.. |
| 12:18.24 | cobelloy | with the keyboard on? |
| 12:18.32 | qupada | genbot1 in #gentoo-amd64 does some useless shite. it will trash-talk you if you try to pick a fight with it though |
| 12:18.50 | macavity | cobelloy: yes, it will copy a new .kde into you homedir, with everything set to defaults |
| 12:19.04 | qupada | gtg |
| 12:19.25 | cobelloy | and things like address book emails etc will all still be in config files in the old .kde? |
| 12:19.28 | macavity | cobelloy: then you can copy in all the stuff that you want from your backup (say .kde-backup) |
| 12:19.40 | macavity | yes |
| 12:20.01 | cobelloy | OK, I can handle that |
| 12:20.02 | macavity | emails are in ~/Mail |
| 12:20.17 | cobelloy | even for thunderbird? |
| 12:20.18 | macavity | so they dont get fscked up |
| 12:20.23 | macavity | i think so.. |
| 12:20.30 | macavity | and thunderbird does not use .kde |
| 12:20.34 | macavity | as it is not a kde-app |
| 12:20.35 | cobelloy | well, I will try it anyway |
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| 12:24.44 | cobelloy | well, the keyboard is working again |
| 12:25.12 | cobelloy | thanks guys - gotta go put my daughter in the bath now |
| 12:25.28 | macavity | cya |
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| 12:28.32 | martin___ | hi how could i creat class (*.cpp and *.h) from *.ui ? |
| 12:29.29 | manohnenick | is a germna here? |
| 12:29.51 | mark_alec | manohnenick: try #kde.de |
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| 12:30.17 | sredna | martin___: Why not read the documenation that comes with designer? |
| 12:31.18 | macavity | sredna? that is my name spelled backwards :-) |
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| 12:36.25 | martin___ | sredna: thanks i found it :P |
| 12:36.39 | reddazz | Hello. Does anyone know how to set the default icon sizes of all KDE application toolbars. I have tried setting them with kcontrol as 22 but they keep defaulting to 16. |
| 12:37.05 | sredna | macavity: Mine too :o |
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| 12:40.04 | younker | Hello, anyone use gentoo? I want to compile KDE svn trunk branch with the QT provided by QT, |
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| 12:47.28 | pinotree | younker: you can't |
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| 12:47.46 | pinotree | you can compile kdelibs trunk (aka kdelibs4) *ONLY* with qt-copy |
| 12:48.58 | pinotree | younker: do you ahve any serious interesting in helping for kde4? if not, it's not worth compiling kdelibs4 |
| 12:49.42 | younker | yes, I am a developer for 6 years on windows. |
| 12:49.59 | macavity | piontree: you familiar with the code? i cant seem to find the place that handles rightclicking a dir and picking properties... |
| 12:50.08 | younker | but I rare develop application on Linux although I used Linux for more than 4 years. |
| 12:51.06 | pinotree | macavity: mm... you should take a lokm at konqueror/ libkonq/ (both in kdebase) and kio/ (kdelibs) |
| 12:51.13 | younker | now I use gentoo and installed KDE 3.5.1 with gentoo portage, but I hope I can contribute to KDE4, |
| 12:51.47 | pinotree | younker: then, http://edu.kde.org/development/port2kde4.php |
| 12:51.54 | Ash-Fox | Are there any K muck clients out there? |
| 12:52.20 | pinotree | younker: but forget using a qt version different than qt-copy |
| 12:52.27 | pinotree | now, --> really lunch |
| 12:52.40 | younker | yeah, I know, I will check out qt-copy now |
| 12:56.12 | macavity | pinotree: thats where i am... |
| 12:56.50 | macavity | Ash-Fox: not that i can find.. plenty of java and whatnot muck-clients though |
| 12:57.23 | macavity | will a MUD client suffice? |
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| 12:58.13 | Ash-Fox | macavity, not really, because mud clients don't exactly have a login protocol :/ |
| 12:58.29 | macavity | oh |
| 12:58.40 | Ash-Fox | (Although a MUD client that can be scripted would probably surfice since I could script it) |
| 12:58.44 | macavity | (i have no clue as to whatever mud or muck might actually be) |
| 12:58.59 | macavity | kmud? |
| 12:59.12 | Ash-Fox | Will look into it, thanks :) |
| 13:00.00 | Ash-Fox | Been spending a few weeks migrating from all my different operatng systems, I use, to one computer, that runs a distro of Linux with KDE, and trying to stick with KDE apps :P |
| 13:00.29 | macavity | what distro did you settle on? |
| 13:02.16 | Ash-Fox | I settled on Mandriva Linux with the SOS repository (Seerofsouls.com) [contains a lot of upto date packages and more packages than Mandriva has by default) |
| 13:02.48 | Ash-Fox | Right now I'm using Mandriva 2006.0 with SoS's KDE 3.5.0 |
| 13:04.33 | Ash-Fox | I would of chosen Gentoo, but I can't spend time waiting for things to compile when I need to use install something and use them urgently for something. |
| 13:07.14 | macavity | ok |
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| 13:08.00 | macavity | im personally a slackware man.. but that probably stems from the fact that i like to hand-configure everything |
| 13:08.20 | Ash-Fox | I like Slackware for it's use of TUIs in many places :) |
| 13:08.27 | macavity | and also that slackware has the most "vanilla KDE version" |
| 13:08.40 | macavity | TUI? |
| 13:08.46 | benJIman|tov | vanilla being a good thing? |
| 13:09.02 | Ash-Fox | benJIman|tov, seen kubuntu? :P |
| 13:09.07 | macavity | benJIman|tov: to me it is :-) |
| 13:09.30 | benJIman|tov | Ash-Fox: kbuntu's is just broken |
| 13:09.37 | benJIman|tov | not as much as fedoras though |
| 13:09.45 | macavity | i like to tell that KDE was compiled just with ./configure && make && make install |
| 13:09.45 | Ash-Fox | macavity http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Text_user_interface |
| 13:09.54 | macavity | ah |
| 13:10.13 | macavity | actually slack only has TUI during the installation |
| 13:10.14 | Ash-Fox | I know SoS's KDE was compiled like that |
| 13:10.35 | macavity | no patches and no fiddling with the default settings? |
| 13:10.38 | macavity | nice :P |
| 13:10.45 | Ash-Fox | Mandriva has one thing I particulary like, where all it's configuration tools have a TUI counterpart |
| 13:10.59 | benJIman|tov | so does suse |
| 13:11.07 | Ash-Fox | YasT is messy :/ |
| 13:11.08 | macavity | i prefere straight CLI |
| 13:11.19 | benJIman|tov | yast runs exactly the same in curses as Qt mode |
| 13:11.32 | Ash-Fox | CLI in my opinion is good when you remember the commandlines, but I can get forgetful at times. |
| 13:11.34 | benJIman|tov | yast has a lot of usability work on it |
| 13:11.38 | macavity | 9 out of 10 times i open konsole when i want to do something anyway |
| 13:11.42 | Ash-Fox | SuSE is leaning towards Gnome now though, which annoys me |
| 13:11.58 | Ash-Fox | benJIman|tov, same situation with Mandriva's drakconf |
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| 13:12.14 | Ash-Fox | Well, except drakconf uses GTK at the moment |
| 13:12.26 | Ash-Fox | But that can be solved with GTK-QT =) |
| 13:12.36 | benJIman|tov | gtk-qt is a horrible hack |
| 13:12.41 | macavity | true.. |
| 13:12.46 | Ash-Fox | I quite like the wrapper |
| 13:12.47 | benJIman|tov | which causes lots of problems, like keyboard navigation doesn't work properly |
| 13:13.13 | Ash-Fox | Hm, it works fine here |
| 13:13.21 | DeadS0ul | I turned it off for gimp |
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| 13:13.27 | DeadS0ul | it didn't make gimp any prettier |
| 13:13.37 | macavity | ill probably stick to doing things with konsole and kate untill KDE starts shipping with "generic" control-modules |
| 13:13.59 | benJIman|tov | macavity: generic? |
| 13:14.02 | DeadS0ul | generic? |
| 13:14.05 | macavity | ie for setting up networking |
| 13:14.11 | benJIman|tov | suse's kde does |
| 13:14.35 | macavity | no-no.. those are suse-only kcms.. not generic ones |
| 13:14.42 | DeadS0ul | =| |
| 13:14.48 | benJIman|tov | they could work on any distro |
| 13:14.51 | benJIman|tov | if they ported yast |
| 13:14.57 | Ash-Fox | I hear they're backporting Yast into Debian\ |
| 13:15.14 | macavity | i dont think it is the job of a distro to port stuff :-P |
| 13:15.16 | benJIman|tov | unfortunately debian's configuration system is a complete mess so it's not particularly easy |
| 13:15.28 | benJIman|tov | macavity: they could of course develop their own tools |
| 13:15.35 | macavity | naaa |
| 13:15.35 | DeadS0ul | all distros do some of the more basic config differently, it's gonan be hard |
| 13:15.44 | macavity | yes |
| 13:15.44 | DeadS0ul | debs config isn't bad |
| 13:16.15 | macavity | slacks is flawless.. since it is not there, it has no faults ;-) |
| 13:16.20 | Ash-Fox | I like Mandriva, they have a rpm alternative, that's compataible with redhat/fedora's way of things, but internally quite different, but the main tools in mandriva is stuff like "urpmi" :P |
| 13:16.45 | Ash-Fox | slackget as some issues |
| 13:16.52 | DeadS0ul | dpkg-reconfigure works great |
| 13:17.01 | macavity | slackget is not part of slackware... |
| 13:17.05 | macavity | neither is slapt-get |
| 13:17.19 | Ash-Fox | Many people use it though |
| 13:17.30 | macavity | if you play with fire... ;-D |
| 13:17.58 | Ash-Fox | Although personally, if you want to use a package manager, best to use a distro that has it from design. |
| 13:18.05 | macavity | but it is btw idiotic.. as kde's kpackage handle it gracefully |
| 13:18.21 | Ash-Fox | kde's kpackage works really well under madriva =) |
| 13:18.33 | macavity | btw.. kpackage is a good example of a generic app.. it handles debs, rpms and tgzs nicely |
| 13:18.53 | DeadS0ul | yeah =D |
| 13:19.03 | Ash-Fox | Theres a reason why I use KDE apps :P |
| 13:19.31 | macavity | it would be nice if kcontrol had stuff like networking and the like |
| 13:19.32 | benJIman|tov | kpackage is a horrible app :) |
| 13:19.37 | wireddd | damn amarok is slow |
| 13:19.38 | Ash-Fox | By the way, is there a easy way to get KDE to reload it's menus? |
| 13:19.41 | benJIman|tov | macavity: it does in suse :p |
| 13:20.00 | macavity | suse is not kde |
| 13:20.17 | DeadS0ul | kpackage works in debian too =P |
| 13:20.24 | benJIman|tov | yast modules accessable from kcm though |
| 13:20.49 | macavity | but they are not part of KDE.. hence not very generic.. right? |
| 13:20.50 | benJIman|tov | kpackage doesn't resolve dependencies or handle repositories, plus has an abysmal UI for installing single packages |
| 13:21.11 | macavity | dependencies? whats that? ;-D |
| 13:21.26 | macavity | ahh.. you mean, that you need to know what to install? |
| 13:21.33 | benJIman|tov | Ash-Fox: if you mean kicker menus then dcop kicker default restart |
| 13:21.47 | macavity | yes.. do a few hundred LFS installs and you have that coverd ;-D |
| 13:21.49 | DeadS0ul | dpkg handles dependencies fine |
| 13:23.45 | Ash-Fox | This is really just turning into a package manager vs package manager war which will result in a os war |
| 13:24.18 | benJIman|tov | DeadS0ul: not resolving them from online repositories, that's apt's job |
| 13:24.44 | DeadS0ul | =O |
| 13:24.53 | DeadS0ul | apt has super cow powers |
| 13:25.23 | benJIman|tov | not that great |
| 13:25.32 | macavity | hehe.. i can tell that i must be an oldfashioned fart :P |
| 13:25.33 | benJIman|tov | smart does some things better, so does yast, apt does other things better |
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| 13:25.54 | benJIman|tov | you can only run one copy of apt at a time last I checked |
| 13:25.56 | DeadS0ul | meh |
| 13:26.03 | benJIman|tov | apt doesn't resolve deps for local packages |
| 13:26.13 | benJIman|tov | not sure if it does load sharing across multiple mirrors like smart |
| 13:26.19 | DeadS0ul | as long as I don't have to mess with installers and registries |
| 13:26.28 | Ash-Fox | is kvirc a kde application? |
| 13:26.33 | macavity | yes |
| 13:26.37 | DeadS0ul | benJIman|tov: think it does |
| 13:26.45 | Ash-Fox | Okay, wasn't sure since it asked me about theming |
| 13:27.01 | pinotree | Ash-Fox: no, iirc it's pure qt |
| 13:27.01 | macavity | and it is not exactly the flagship of kde apps |
| 13:27.53 | Ash-Fox | ack the user interface is a little wierd |
| 13:28.18 | macavity | ah. sorry |
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| 13:28.33 | pinotree | no, it's kde too, /me sucks |
| 13:28.43 | macavity | i thought you were talking about ksirc |
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| 13:29.09 | Ash-Fox | I am |
| 13:29.26 | Crusad0r | Hello. Is this the right to ask something about kopete ? |
| 13:29.41 | Ash-Fox | Yes |
| 13:30.11 | Ash-Fox | Damn, I think using kopete for IRC would be better... |
| 13:30.45 | pinotree | noo |
| 13:30.51 | pinotree | kopete sucks for irc |
| 13:30.58 | Ash-Fox | I agree, it does |
| 13:31.00 | pinotree | even ksirc is better than kopete for irc |
| 13:31.14 | Crusad0r | Ok so... I'm using kopete 0.10.4 on a Ubuntu. When I'm speeaking to someone the timestamp looks like this: 23/02/06 14:MM |
| 13:31.27 | Crusad0r | I tried some themes but I always get that |
| 13:31.48 | Crusad0r | I'm sorry... I'm not using the whole kde |
| 13:32.39 | Crusad0r | Is this a bug or a misconfiguration ? |
| 13:32.47 | Crusad0r | (The timestamp I mean) |
| 13:32.50 | wireddd | amarok is nice |
| 13:33.01 | Crusad0r | wireddd, I agree :) |
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| 13:33.20 | wireddd | how is support for off brand mp3 players? |
| 13:33.39 | Ash-Fox | Crusad0r, it's dependant your theme you set in kopete |
| 13:34.26 | Crusad0r | Ash-Fox, I tried nearly every theme and I download two new one right now... Always the same display |
| 13:34.46 | Crusad0r | Even in preview mod I can see 14:MM |
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| 13:35.12 | Ash-Fox | Crusad0r, well I don't have that issue here... You could try asking #ubuntu about it, it could be something they did to the package |
| 13:35.35 | Crusad0r | Ash-Fox, Ok, thx for the advice :) |
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| 13:36.58 | anabain | how big can be the preview image that appears when putting your mouse onto an image file? how can I modify it? |
| 13:37.19 | Ash-Fox | kvirc doesn't support IRCS? |
| 13:37.30 | anabain | to be as big as it's possible... |
| 13:38.45 | DeadS0ul | can someone tell me what i'm doing wrong here? |
| 13:38.46 | DeadS0ul | http://pastebin.com/568436 |
| 13:40.07 | pinotree | DeadS0ul: int main( int argv, char **argc ) ==> int main( int argc, char **argv ) |
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| 13:40.25 | DeadS0ul | .... |
| 13:40.30 | DeadS0ul | @*^##(!&^@(!#)%$#(&$ |
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| 13:41.54 | tzanger | 3.5.1 kmail adds the original author when I try to reply to a mailing list... is there some way to turn this assinine feature off? If I wanted to reply to all, I'd use A not L :-) |
| 13:43.47 | DeadS0ul | meh still one more error |
| 13:46.38 | DeadS0ul | I dont' get this one at all =( |
| 13:46.40 | DeadS0ul | http://pastebin.com/568440 |
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| 13:48.02 | pinotree | DeadS0ul: add a virtual destructor (even empty) to your class |
| 13:48.14 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 13:48.15 | DeadS0ul | hmmm |
| 13:48.26 | DeadS0ul | shouldn't one be created autmatically? |
| 13:48.52 | pinotree | no |
| 13:49.11 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 13:49.16 | DeadS0ul | I better go over that again |
| 13:49.36 | pinotree | just add virtual ~MainWindow(); in the .h |
| 13:49.48 | pinotree | and MainWindow::~MainWindow() { } |
| 13:49.51 | pinotree | in the .cpp |
| 13:52.02 | ananth126 | or ~MainWindow(){} in the class .h |
| 13:53.37 | DeadS0ul | hhmm |
| 13:54.12 | DeadS0ul | still the same error |
| 13:54.22 | Guti | you didn't include the .moc I guess |
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| 13:55.32 | Guti | DeadS0ul: there should be a #include "filename.moc" in the end of your cpp file |
| 13:55.45 | Guti | then you need to make sure that the moc get generated from the header file |
| 13:55.59 | Guti | (rerun auto* tools I think) |
| 13:57.14 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 13:57.24 | DeadS0ul | after main? |
| 13:58.04 | Guti | well I don't know if it'll work. What I'll do is move all the MainWindow class things into a special cpp/h file |
| 13:58.27 | Guti | then include the header in the main.cpp and use it from there, in the cpp file of the class include the moc file (name of the header + .moc in the end) |
| 13:58.28 | DeadS0ul | seperate it? |
| 13:58.41 | DeadS0ul | ah alright lemmet try that |
| 13:58.58 | Guti | yeah that's the right way to do things, seperate your classes into different files. everything will be clearer that way |
| 14:00.08 | DeadS0ul | I see |
| 14:00.15 | DeadS0ul | I'm still pretty new to c++ =( |
| 14:00.44 | Guti | well you need to start from somewhere :) |
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| 14:05.58 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 14:06.03 | DeadS0ul | I read a l'il bit bout it every night |
| 14:06.11 | DeadS0ul | and have been trying to write it in Qt |
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| 14:06.40 | Guti | what about doing the qt tutorials? |
| 14:06.49 | DeadS0ul | thats' where I got some of the code from |
| 14:06.54 | DeadS0ul | but its' my C++ that's still weak |
| 14:07.09 | Guti | follow them one by one, see how they seperate the classes and such |
| 14:07.14 | DeadS0ul | I dunno when and why to use virtual decontructors or dynamic binding and stuff |
| 14:07.16 | DeadS0ul | yeha doing that now |
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| 14:08.17 | bushwakko | when using dual head the kickers on my second screen is just plain crap |
| 14:08.32 | bushwakko | it appears like 200px from the bottom |
| 14:08.40 | bushwakko | and doesnt go all the way to the right |
| 14:08.49 | bushwakko | also it doesnt respond to reconfiguring |
| 14:08.54 | bushwakko | buttons workthough |
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| 14:11.13 | bushwakko | http://huldreveien.generation.no/~wakko/secondscreen.jpg |
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| 14:19.47 | DeadS0ul | k I dunno what I did but I made it even worse |
| 14:20.46 | TranceDude | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.50 | TranceDude | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.52 | TranceDude | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:20.56 | TranceDude | how can i silve this? |
| 14:21.01 | TranceDude | solve |
| 14:21.30 | TranceDude | can somebody help me? |
| 14:21.37 | anabain | how big can be the preview image that appears when putting your mouse onto an image file? how can I modify it? |
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| 14:21.50 | pinotree | TranceDude: not here, surely, this is #kde |
| 14:22.55 | TranceDude | yes but in #latex nobody answers :) |
| 14:24.49 | pinotree | here is not a proper chanel, even if nobody replies in #latex... |
| 14:25.02 | TranceDude | np |
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| 14:25.28 | CapNemo | hello kde fans :) |
| 14:26.02 | CapNemo | is there a way on the desktop to have variable icon size ?? because the fixed size is really annoying ... |
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| 14:31.22 | DeadS0ul | variable icon size |
| 14:31.24 | DeadS0ul | what do you mena? |
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| 14:31.58 | DeadS0ul | dammit i dunno what's wrong with my constructor now |
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| 14:32.46 | CapNemo | DeadS0ul, on the desktop it would be good to be able to resize each icon individually |
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| 14:32.58 | DeadS0ul | Cap dont' think that'll work |
| 14:33.04 | DeadS0ul | will happen |
| 14:33.18 | DeadS0ul | I haven't seen an option like that anywhere |
| 14:33.32 | CapNemo | yup i hope this feature will be added in kde4 .. because its really prehistoric |
| 14:39.01 | DeadS0ul | i guess |
| 14:39.06 | DeadS0ul | I wouldn't wnat it thoug =D |
| 14:39.20 | DeadS0ul | hey pinotree, mind helping me out again =( http://pastebin.com/568536 |
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| 14:40.04 | CapNemo | the problem is when you have icons of applications and pictures on your desktop you have to choose between good icon size or a real picture on your desktop |
| 14:40.23 | DeadS0ul | ah ture |
| 14:40.26 | DeadS0ul | true |
| 14:40.47 | DeadS0ul | but why do you have pics on your desktop? |
| 14:40.51 | DeadS0ul | isn't tha tjust messy? |
| 14:41.12 | CapNemo | nop i like to have the picture of my wife on my desktop :) |
| 14:41.21 | DeadS0ul | wallpaper =] |
| 14:41.36 | CapNemo | euh a bit big ;) |
| 14:41.55 | DeadS0ul | you can mess aroudn with aspects on wallpapers |
| 14:42.36 | CapNemo | yes i know what you mean : there is always a workaround .. but you know comfort is a good thing too ;) |
| 14:43.05 | DeadS0ul | true that |
| 14:43.29 | DeadS0ul | I guess the last thing you can try is to have digkam running on your desktop with you wife's album load.. |
| 14:43.33 | DeadS0ul | loaded |
| 14:43.42 | WindowsUninstall | sredna, Hi |
| 14:43.53 | CapNemo | DeadS0ul, digkam ? |
| 14:43.58 | sredna | Hello WindowsUninstall |
| 14:44.01 | DeadS0ul | digikam |
| 14:44.03 | WindowsUninstall | sredna, http://img136.imageshack.us/my.php?image=diskmanager0ze.png |
| 14:44.04 | DeadS0ul | it's like iphoto |
| 14:44.13 | WindowsUninstall | sredna, Do you like it? |
| 14:44.19 | sredna | Let me look |
| 14:44.33 | sredna | Digikam rocks ;) |
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| 14:44.48 | DeadS0ul | hey that looks cool |
| 14:44.51 | DeadS0ul | you making that? |
| 14:45.17 | Wendain | Does anyone know to get rid of the big ballon text that shows up when you hover the mouse over apps on taskbar in kde 3.5.1 |
| 14:45.19 | sredna | Looks nice, WindowsUninstall |
| 14:45.24 | CapNemo | WindowsUninstall, yup very nice :) |
| 14:45.46 | CapNemo | Wendain, you can remove that from kcontrol ... |
| 14:45.56 | DeadS0ul | Wendain: configure panel -> apperance -> uncheck tooltips |
| 14:46.04 | DeadS0ul | uh mouseover effects |
| 14:46.29 | Wendain | there is no appaerance there on mine |
| 14:46.33 | DeadS0ul | hey WindowsUninstall, can you help me debug my simple kde app, i dunno why it can't find the contructor |
| 14:46.55 | WindowsUninstall | DeadS0ul, OK |
| 14:47.00 | DeadS0ul | Wendain: right click you panel and do configure panel |
| 14:47.06 | DeadS0ul | http://pastebin.com/568536 |
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| 14:48.02 | DeadS0ul | dunno why it can't find that constructor |
| 14:49.00 | Wendain | DeadSoul arrangement/hiding/menus/taskbar but is no appearance on mine in 3.5.1 |
| 14:49.52 | DeadS0ul | strange .. |
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| 14:50.55 | DeadS0ul | WindowsUninstall: figured it out? |
| 14:51.05 | WindowsUninstall | One moment |
| 14:51.19 | ananth126 | DeadS0ul: you dont need Q_OBJECT |
| 14:51.21 | DeadS0ul | =D thaxn |
| 14:51.23 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 14:51.33 | DeadS0ul | that thing is confusing |
| 14:51.36 | DeadS0ul | when do I need it? |
| 14:52.06 | ananth126 | if you have any signal/slot, you need it |
| 14:52.13 | DeadS0ul | ahh |
| 14:52.17 | ananth126 | in this case, you have commented it out |
| 14:52.37 | DeadS0ul | yeah I'm trying to find out why I keep messing up |
| 14:52.40 | ananth126 | and dont forget to run 'moc' if you are using Q_OBJECT |
| 14:52.49 | ananth126 | before compiling the prog |
| 14:53.17 | DeadS0ul | moc... |
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| 14:54.29 | DeadS0ul | damn I better go over teh whitepaper again |
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| 14:55.39 | DeadS0ul | hmm even without Q_OBJECT it still can't find the constructor for MainWindow.. |
| 14:55.55 | WindowsUninstall | Yes, the problem is Q_OBJECT |
| 14:56.32 | WindowsUninstall | DeadS0ul, KApplication a( argv, argc, "t3"); is deprecated |
| 14:56.45 | DeadS0ul | oh |
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| 14:57.05 | DeadS0ul | lemme look up KApplication class again then .. |
| 14:57.51 | WindowsUninstall | DeadS0ul, http://pastebin.com/568562 |
| 14:58.24 | ananth126 | btw... you can also remove the virtual destructor as it doesnt do anything |
| 14:59.08 | ananth126 | iirc, you have to declare it somewhere else if you put it as virtual... not sure though. |
| 14:59.25 | DeadS0ul | i'll find out bou that |
| 14:59.33 | ananth126 | or at least try removing the 'virtual' part |
| 14:59.35 | DeadS0ul | i'm going over virtual deconstructors in today |
| 15:01.20 | annma | WindowsUninstall: what is the problem about your code? |
| 15:02.59 | DeadS0ul | t3.o: In function `main':t3.cpp:(.text+0x81): undefined reference to `MainWindow::MainWindow(char const*)' |
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| 15:03.03 | DeadS0ul | still get that =( |
| 15:03.17 | macavity | anyone knows where exactly i find the kde-code that handles "rightclick dir -> properties"? |
| 15:03.21 | WindowsUninstall | annma, I think nothing |
| 15:03.31 | macavity | DeadS0ul: -lkde? |
| 15:03.36 | annma | :) |
| 15:03.37 | DeadS0ul | lemme try |
| 15:03.37 | ananth126 | are you linking mainwindow.o ??? |
| 15:03.53 | ananth126 | ahh.. its missing in your makefile. |
| 15:04.01 | DeadS0ul | =O |
| 15:04.02 | annma | DeadS0ul: where is your code? |
| 15:04.04 | ananth126 | in sources, add mainwindow.cpp |
| 15:04.07 | DeadS0ul | qmake make didn't type it in? |
| 15:04.26 | DeadS0ul | annma: hold on I think ananth126 fixed it =D |
| 15:04.35 | ananth126 | annma: http://pastebin.com/568536 |
| 15:04.58 | anabain | how big can be the preview image that appears when putting your mouse onto an image file? how can I modify it? |
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| 15:05.10 | macavity | i havent seen your code.. but you should probably be thinking about autoconf unless you plan to become really really familiar with all the little nitty gritty ditails ;-D |
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| 15:05.30 | DeadS0ul | autoconf, yeah I probably should |
| 15:05.41 | DeadS0ul | know a good how to? |
| 15:05.49 | macavity | info autoconf |
| 15:05.51 | ananth126 | info autoconf |
| 15:05.55 | DeadS0ul | oh boy |
| 15:05.56 | macavity | :P |
| 15:06.06 | ananth126 | there is also google.com :) |
| 15:06.19 | DeadS0ul | yeah well there's also a kio known as man |
| 15:06.23 | macavity | info pages are best viewed with konq ;-P |
| 15:06.28 | DeadS0ul | man:/autoconf <--- HUZZAAH! |
| 15:06.38 | ananth126 | nope... man for autoconf points to info. ;) |
| 15:06.40 | macavity | info:/autoconf is even better |
| 15:07.06 | DeadS0ul | wasn't found though |
| 15:07.18 | macavity | ? |
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| 15:08.02 | macavity | btw.. how often does a *real* KDE hacker drop by in his place? |
| 15:08.03 | DeadS0ul | KDE Info Pages Viewer Error |
| 15:08.03 | DeadS0ul | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:08.10 | macavity | eeek |
| 15:08.21 | macavity | your distro is b0rked up |
| 15:08.22 | Sho_ | macavity: All the time |
| 15:08.31 | DeadS0ul | haha |
| 15:08.37 | macavity | Sho: neato :-) |
| 15:08.41 | DeadS0ul | google then |
| 15:08.54 | annma | whose project is that code? |
| 15:09.12 | annma | DeadS0ul: is that your code? |
| 15:09.18 | macavity | DeadS0ul: or try that app called "konsole" wich lets you type in commands.. and just type "info autoconf" and hit return ;-D |
| 15:09.30 | annma | are you learning to code KDE DeadS0ul ? |
| 15:09.59 | macavity | Sho: are you familia with the code? |
| 15:10.10 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:10.21 | DeadS0ul | I'm messing with different classes |
| 15:10.25 | annma | DeadS0ul: why don't you sue kdevelop? |
| 15:10.28 | annma | use |
| 15:10.30 | DeadS0ul | I tried to |
| 15:10.32 | annma | and automake |
| 15:10.33 | DeadS0ul | it borks up too |
| 15:10.35 | annma | no! |
| 15:10.38 | DeadS0ul | yes! |
| 15:10.43 | annma | impossible |
| 15:10.45 | annma | retry |
| 15:10.56 | macavity | kdevelop is quite neat |
| 15:10.59 | Sho_ | macavity: I've contributed here and there, yup. Primarily I work on Konversation, a KDE IRC client. |
| 15:11.00 | annma | it's the best way, you are not going tomake it manually with qmake |
| 15:11.01 | DeadS0ul | i loaded up a template class |
| 15:11.06 | DeadS0ul | and trie dto compile it |
| 15:11.11 | annma | yes which one, DeadS0ul ? |
| 15:11.17 | DeadS0ul | simple kde application |
| 15:11.20 | annma | ok |
| 15:11.25 | annma | then? |
| 15:11.34 | DeadS0ul | lemme laod it up agian |
| 15:11.44 | DeadS0ul | when I ran automake tools and friends..it didn't comiple |
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| 15:12.02 | annma | retry please and let's fix it |
| 15:12.13 | DeadS0ul | glady |
| 15:12.16 | DeadS0ul | compiling now =D |
| 15:12.18 | annma | you're not going to make it the way you are now |
| 15:12.21 | macavity | Sho: do you know where i find the place that is responsible for checking if a password is needed when a user rightclicks a dir -> properties -> share |
| 15:12.22 | annma | ok |
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| 15:12.38 | DeadS0ul | midn if I paste 3 lines? |
| 15:12.46 | arag0n | hi, i was trying to import all my mails from a evolution 2.x folder using kmailcvt. I get a error msg'Fatal: Unable to start KMail for DCOP communication. Make sure kmail is installed' |
| 15:12.59 | arag0n | any ideas what could be wrong ? |
| 15:13.11 | macavity | sho: you see, none is needed in my case, but it insists on getting one anyway.. smb.conf is root:users -rw-rw-r-- |
| 15:13.16 | annma | DeadS0ul: only 3 |
| 15:13.22 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:13.27 | DeadS0ul | output error messages |
| 15:13.58 | Sho_ | macavity: Not from memory, no |
| 15:14.21 | DeadS0ul | /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/p1/configure: line 877: test: too many arguments |
| 15:14.22 | DeadS0ul | /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/p1/configure: line 883: test: too many arguments |
| 15:14.22 | DeadS0ul | configure: error: sources are in /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/p1, but `cd /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/p1' does not work |
| 15:14.22 | DeadS0ul | *** Exited with status: 1 *** |
| 15:14.25 | macavity | sho: hmm.. ive need looking, to the best of my knowledge, everywhere... |
| 15:14.41 | macavity | s/need/been/ |
| 15:15.23 | macavity | apt: go hide in /dev/null for a while |
| 15:15.37 | annma | DeadS0ul: wow, what is that mess? |
| 15:15.52 | annma | DeadS0ul: is that when you configure? |
| 15:16.09 | DeadS0ul | when I hit the execute button, yeah |
| 15:16.14 | annma | execute? |
| 15:16.31 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:16.38 | annma | you create a new project template |
| 15:16.42 | DeadS0ul | alright |
| 15:16.46 | annma | you name it p1 |
| 15:16.47 | DeadS0ul | I'll start all over =O |
| 15:17.08 | annma | ok |
| 15:17.31 | annma | call it KHello |
| 15:17.55 | DeadS0ul | for version control system I'll use 'none' =P |
| 15:17.55 | macavity | annma: perhaps you can help me out when you are done with DeadS0ul? |
| 15:17.56 | annma | tell me after you click on Finish button |
| 15:18.13 | annma | macavity: i did not read your question |
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| 15:18.22 | DeadS0ul | just did |
| 15:18.45 | DeadS0ul | I see a khello.cpp now |
| 15:19.00 | annma | DeadS0ul: OK now Build menu -> run automake & friends |
| 15:19.06 | annma | tell me when finished |
| 15:19.09 | annma | i do it along |
| 15:19.13 | macavity | annma: i need to find the place in the code that is responsible for the "share" tab when rightclick dir -> properties |
| 15:19.26 | DeadS0ul | ! |
| 15:19.27 | DeadS0ul | success |
| 15:19.35 | macavity | annma: it just prompts for a password whatever one is needed or not |
| 15:19.45 | annma | macavity: moment |
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| 15:20.02 | macavity | DeadS0ul: kdevelop is you friend :-) |
| 15:20.06 | annma | DeadS0ul: Build menu -> Run configure |
| 15:20.07 | DeadS0ul | yeah =O |
| 15:20.13 | macavity | annma: thx a bunch |
| 15:20.20 | annma | macavity: share tab in what app? |
| 15:20.28 | DeadS0ul | it spat out errors =( |
| 15:20.40 | annma | DeadS0ul: does it stop? |
| 15:20.50 | macavity | annma: konq, rightclick on a "folder" -> properties -> share |
| 15:21.03 | annma | macavity: so in konq file manager? |
| 15:21.06 | macavity | yes |
| 15:21.10 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:21.26 | annma | DeadS0ul: post the first error |
| 15:21.30 | annma | in paste bin |
| 15:21.38 | DeadS0ul | http://pastebin.com/568596 |
| 15:21.41 | annma | macavity: do you have kdebase sources? |
| 15:21.52 | annma | DeadS0ul: first error |
| 15:22.42 | macavity | annma: yup, 3.5.1 |
| 15:22.42 | shinjii__ | Anyone know of any pkg/software that'll convert regex to plain txt |
| 15:22.42 | DeadS0ul | annma: thats' what shows up in "messages" |
| 15:23.11 | annma | macavity: then it's easy, grep for "You need to be authorized to share folders |
| 15:23.20 | annma | DeadS0ul: in konsole |
| 15:23.44 | macavity | annma: ahh... why didnt i think of that :-) |
| 15:23.49 | annma | ;) |
| 15:23.49 | macavity | annma: thx a bunch |
| 15:23.57 | annma | DeadS0ul: cd /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/khello |
| 15:24.08 | DeadS0ul | annma: you want me to run configure in a shell? |
| 15:24.08 | annma | DeadS0ul: do you run kdevelop as sunil? |
| 15:24.13 | DeadS0ul | yea |
| 15:24.15 | ananth126 | DeadS0ul: with quotes while cd'ing |
| 15:24.18 | annma | DeadS0ul: in konsole |
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| 15:24.29 | annma | open konsole, DeadS0ul |
| 15:24.35 | annma | then paste: cd /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/khello |
| 15:24.36 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:24.48 | annma | paste the command and its output |
| 15:25.07 | DeadS0ul | sunil@pc01:~/My Documents/My Code/Qt/khello$ cd /home/sunil/My Documents/My Code/Qt/khello |
| 15:25.07 | DeadS0ul | bash: cd: /home/sunil/My: No such file or directory |
| 15:25.16 | DeadS0ul | the space messes it up .. |
| 15:25.16 | annma | well then |
| 15:25.18 | ananth126 | DeadS0ul: with quotes while cd'ing |
| 15:25.19 | annma | there you are |
| 15:25.40 | DeadS0ul | wait with quotes? |
| 15:25.47 | annma | why quotes? |
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| 15:25.55 | macavity | annma: btw.. its an annoying bug.. i think it took me two hours to figure out that it was not me who was the idiot here :-P |
| 15:25.57 | ananth126 | cuz My Documents has a space |
| 15:26.20 | DeadS0ul | ah I'll move dirs then |
| 15:26.24 | annma | having a My Documents subfolder is so foolish |
| 15:26.34 | DeadS0ul | it's a samba mount |
| 15:26.34 | annma | it's so MS retarded |
| 15:26.38 | annma | oh my |
| 15:26.44 | ananth126 | hehe |
| 15:26.44 | DeadS0ul | i use it a network drive |
| 15:26.47 | annma | DeadS0ul: you're starting programminh |
| 15:26.55 | annma | do things the easiest, OK? |
| 15:27.00 | DeadS0ul | sorta, i just haven't done it in a while |
| 15:27.05 | ananth126 | DeadS0ul: not a good path to mix things like these... |
| 15:27.05 | DeadS0ul | mmm yeah =] |
| 15:27.08 | annma | you don't have a local disk with some space? |
| 15:27.13 | DeadS0ul | yeah I do |
| 15:27.18 | annma | so use it!!!! |
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| 15:27.21 | DeadS0ul | I'll just use that |
| 15:27.25 | islamguide_com | hi |
| 15:27.25 | annma | yes please |
| 15:27.26 | macavity | annma: not in kdebase :-P That gives me a clue as to why i could not find it |
| 15:27.34 | annma | macavity: try kdelibs |
| 15:27.43 | macavity | no sh*t ;-) |
| 15:27.45 | islamguide_com | i've got this weird error when kde crashes |
| 15:27.47 | islamguide_com | #213 0x00000000 in ?? () |
| 15:27.47 | islamguide_com | #214 0x00000002 in ?? () |
| 15:27.47 | islamguide_com | #215 0x00000000 in ?? () |
| 15:27.47 | islamguide_com | #216 0x00000000 in ?? () |
| 15:27.47 | islamguide_com | #217 0x40f2cc44 in _int_free () from /lib/tls/libc.so.6 |
| 15:27.58 | islamguide_com | it happens quite frequently |
| 15:28.06 | islamguide_com | wad do i do? |
| 15:28.26 | annma | islamguide_com: please don't paste like that here, use a pastebin |
| 15:28.30 | wireddd | when you update album art in amarok does it store it in the mp3 files? |
| 15:28.33 | annma | ask in your distro |
| 15:28.52 | annma | wireddd: ask in #amarok |
| 15:29.04 | annma | islamguide_com: ask in #yourdistro channel |
| 15:29.31 | annma | macavity: ./kio/kfile/kfilesharedlg.cpp: vbox->addWidget( new QLabel( i18n("You need to be authorized to share folders."), |
| 15:29.36 | DeadS0ul | wowzer look at kdevelop go |
| 15:31.22 | annma | DeadS0ul: so what step are you doing? |
| 15:31.27 | annma | configure? |
| 15:31.29 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:31.33 | annma | :) cool |
| 15:31.56 | DeadS0ul | now compile? |
| 15:32.13 | annma | Build -> Build Project |
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| 15:32.15 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 15:32.23 | toothpick | My kprinter prints blank pdf's...any idea? |
| 15:32.33 | DeadS0ul | hey there it is |
| 15:32.47 | macavity | annma: hit! thx :-D |
| 15:32.50 | grepper | anyone know if its possibly in kdialog (--getopenfilename) to specify a mimetype wildcard like "video/*" as opposed to having to list *.avi *.mpg etc ? |
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| 15:33.06 | annma | install as root if you need root rights in $KDEDIR |
| 15:33.25 | annma | execute program |
| 15:33.34 | DeadS0ul | i didn't do install |
| 15:33.40 | annma | you see a small window with Hello world |
| 15:33.41 | DeadS0ul | but it runs fine whenI do execute program |
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| 15:33.45 | annma | OK |
| 15:33.51 | DeadS0ul | naw I'm adding in code for a push button now |
| 15:33.57 | annma | DeadS0ul: now maybe you don't want to start from that template |
| 15:34.10 | annma | maybe you want a better template |
| 15:34.32 | DeadS0ul | which one? |
| 15:34.48 | annma | what would your project be? |
| 15:34.59 | DeadS0ul | mp3 player is what I'm hoping to make |
| 15:35.14 | annma | so you want a menubar? |
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| 15:35.19 | annma | a config dialog? |
| 15:35.22 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:35.22 | DeadS0ul | yeap |
| 15:35.30 | _werner | hello ;) |
| 15:35.39 | annma | http://women.kde.org/articles/tutorials/kdevelop_templates/kxt.png |
| 15:35.39 | pinotree | DeadS0ul: statusbar and menubars are provided already by kmainwindow |
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| 15:35.44 | annma | DeadS0ul: look at that link |
| 15:36.04 | pm | happy doughnut everyone!!!!! |
| 15:36.08 | _werner | I have got a quetion ... is this right -> a lot of thank |
| 15:36.12 | annma | DeadS0ul: compatible only kde 3.5 or also 3.4? |
| 15:36.17 | macavity | annma: it a pears that it is KFileShare::UserNotAllowed which is the offender... |
| 15:36.34 | DeadS0ul | pinotree: that means I don't have to do new KStatusBar? |
| 15:36.42 | _werner | ? |
| 15:36.43 | macavity | annma: it returns true when it should return false |
| 15:36.43 | pinotree | sure you have to |
| 15:36.46 | DeadS0ul | 3.5 I guess |
| 15:36.51 | pinotree | but it's alrady constructed |
| 15:36.56 | DeadS0ul | oh |
| 15:37.15 | annma | DeadS0ul: in your templates, is there a KConfig XT for KDE 3.5 template? |
| 15:37.18 | macavity | pm: happy cinnamon crisps to you too :-) |
| 15:37.35 | annma | DeadS0ul: I made that template actually |
| 15:37.36 | DeadS0ul | annma: I see the one you showed me but it doesn't say for KDE 3.5 |
| 15:37.49 | DeadS0ul | really =O |
| 15:37.51 | DeadS0ul | damn... |
| 15:37.53 | annma | ok then you don't have kdevelop 3.3 maybe? |
| 15:38.04 | _werner | yes or no? Anwere please it´s important |
| 15:38.04 | pm | macavity: thanks ;-) |
| 15:38.14 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 15:38.16 | DeadS0ul | seems lke it |
| 15:38.16 | annma | but take the KConfig XT one, DeadS0ul |
| 15:38.34 | annma | it's the most up-to-date and the most complete |
| 15:38.38 | _werner | good is in hell, now? |
| 15:38.43 | _werner | why? |
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| 15:39.13 | _werner | better ;) |
| 15:39.15 | _werner | ... is this right -> a lot of thank+ |
| 15:39.18 | _werner | ?? |
| 15:39.18 | annma | DeadS0ul: if you have a name for your project you can set it |
| 15:39.22 | DeadS0ul | annma: should I build it now? |
| 15:39.22 | _werner | uff |
| 15:39.29 | DeadS0ul | i just set it to ktest for nwo |
| 15:39.43 | annma | DeadS0ul: yes please try to build it |
| 15:39.44 | _werner | is it so hard to answere my question? |
| 15:39.47 | DeadS0ul | =] |
| 15:39.57 | annma | _werner: 1 minute and repeat your question |
| 15:40.14 | annma | i missed it _werner |
| 15:40.22 | _werner | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:40.35 | annma | ask it |
| 15:40.36 | _werner | or much? |
| 15:40.57 | _werner | a lot of thank oder a mucht of thank ??? |
| 15:41.04 | _werner | <- it was the question |
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| 15:41.20 | _werner | oder many of thank? |
| 15:41.30 | _werner | lot, much or many?? |
| 15:41.38 | annma | _werner: we need a KDE question |
| 15:41.52 | DeadS0ul | wowzer |
| 15:41.56 | _werner | no i didn´t have a KDE question |
| 15:42.03 | annma | then ask elsewhere |
| 15:42.10 | _werner | i have a english question? |
| 15:42.15 | mr_excuses | hi all. I just compiled a new kernel and konsole stopeed working. does it use pty's? I left those out... |
| 15:42.17 | annma | not there |
| 15:42.29 | annma | mr_excuses: distro? |
| 15:42.59 | _werner | can you speak english? If yes, then help me -> much, many or lot of thank? |
| 15:43.04 | mr_excuses | annma: ubuntu, but I ``tuned'' the kernel configuration |
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| 15:43.23 | annma | mr_excuses: shouldn't you reinstall kde maybe? |
| 15:43.35 | annma | mr_excuses: ask in #ubuntu |
| 15:43.41 | annma | if there are dependencies |
| 15:43.53 | mr_excuses | annma: for a kernel compiling? I don't think so... |
| 15:44.05 | DeadS0ul | annma: thanx =] I'll try messing around with this more tommorrow |
| 15:44.10 | DeadS0ul | I gotta read bout inheritance now =( |
| 15:44.21 | annma | DeadS0ul: OK |
| 15:44.38 | annma | mr_excuses: does the rest of kde work? |
| 15:44.50 | macavity | DeadS0ul: one of the very reasons i gave up on C++ and started doing C and Lisp instead ;-D |
| 15:45.25 | mr_excuses | annma: yes it does |
| 15:45.29 | DeadS0ul | macavity: lol |
| 15:45.32 | annma | macavity: so you are hunting a bug in the Share tab? |
| 15:45.58 | annma | mr_excuses: when you start konsole dfrom a xterm, what does it say? |
| 15:46.06 | mr_excuses | I just have a bell ringing in my head that konsole uses pty's... guessed someone here could confirm |
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| 15:46.17 | mr_excuses | annma: ah, good queestion |
| 15:46.45 | macavity | annma: yes |
| 15:46.56 | DeadS0ul | i'm off guys |
| 15:46.58 | DeadS0ul | cya later |
| 15:47.02 | annma | bye DeadS0ul |
| 15:47.10 | annma | macavity: is it a reported bug? |
| 15:47.14 | BlueBeret | hi, could someone help me with setting up glx? I use kde 3.5.0 on Kanotix (Debian-based) and have installed nvidia-glx package, but it seems not to be set up. |
| 15:47.34 | annma | BlueBeret: can't #kanotix help you? |
| 15:47.38 | macavity | annma: it doesnt get the fact that smb.conf is root:users -rw-rw-r--, and that i am a member of users, and can hence write to the file, so no need for the rootpw |
| 15:47.58 | BlueBeret | annma: will look there after finding no help here |
| 15:48.14 | annma | BlueBeret: nvidia drivers are not part of kde |
| 15:48.24 | BlueBeret | annma: I guess this is not just a matter of Kanotix, either |
| 15:48.27 | annma | macavity: is there a bug report? |
| 15:48.39 | macavity | annma: dont know :-P |
| 15:48.40 | annma | BlueBeret: the nvidia package is not from kanotix? |
| 15:48.57 | annma | macavity: you want to fix it for you or in kde? |
| 15:49.10 | BlueBeret | annma: no |
| 15:49.13 | mr_excuses | BlueBeret: those are more leikely to be answered in your distro's channel or in #debian. in #debian, ask dpkg (the bot) |
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| 15:49.15 | macavity | BlueBeret: in xorg.conf in section [modules] add loadmodule glx |
| 15:49.19 | annma | from where then BlueBeret ? |
| 15:49.23 | macavity | end of storry |
| 15:49.42 | macavity | annma: huh? |
| 15:49.43 | annma | yes, BlueBeret check what macavity says |
| 15:49.45 | BlueBeret | annma: from Debian |
| 15:50.02 | annma | configure your xorg.conf properly |
| 15:50.14 | annma | macavity: you want to fix it for you or in kde? |
| 15:50.26 | annma | in kde code for kde 3.5.2? |
| 15:51.23 | mr_excuses | BlueBeret: well, you must install nvidia-kernel-source, compile it, make a .deb and install it. also, check /var/log/xorg.log or similar about what xorg says about your card. also, are you using the nv or nvidia driver? |
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| 15:51.36 | mr_excuses | BlueBeret: but you better ask in #debian |
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| 15:51.55 | mr_excuses | they fix this problen on a daily basis |
| 15:52.28 | BlueBeret | whoops, my system seems to lack the file xorg.conf |
| 15:52.36 | annma | oh my |
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| 15:53.05 | mr_excuses | annma: xterm doesn't come up either :-| |
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| 15:53.17 | mr_excuses | BlueBeret: xfree, may be? |
| 15:53.28 | annma | mr_excuses: hmm then it's not Konsole! ;-) |
| 15:53.40 | annma | oh xfree fro debian, yes |
| 15:54.27 | macavity | annma: if i manage to fix it, then ill ofcause send it to upstream.. anything would be outright unethical |
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| 15:54.41 | macavity | (i cant spell) |
| 15:54.54 | mr_excuses | annma: no it's not. so, what do konsole and xterm have in common? |
| 15:54.55 | annma | ;) i get it |
| 15:55.24 | annma | mr_excuses: no idea about that but if you updated only your kernel then it did soething |
| 15:55.32 | annma | obviously |
| 15:55.37 | mr_excuses | annma: quite so |
| 15:55.45 | mr_excuses | well, trying w/ pty's |
| 15:56.00 | BlueBeret | aww... can't find it!!! |
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| 15:57.05 | mr_excuses | BlueBeret: as I said, ask in #debian |
| 15:57.43 | SimAtWork | hello |
| 15:57.46 | SimAtWork | everybody! |
| 15:58.42 | macavity | annma: but i doubt, now where i have isolated the code, that i will be able to do a god damn thing about it |
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| 16:00.38 | mr_excuses | annma: well, just for the record: yes, it was the PTY's |
| 16:01.06 | macavity | annma: and because of stupid firewall rules here, someone else will have to port it to SVN, as i cant do checkouts |
| 16:01.44 | annma | macavity: you should make a bug report and attach the patch |
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| 16:02.16 | annma | mr_excuses: ok |
| 16:02.18 | macavity | i will.. and if i cant fix it, ill see if there is a bug-report or file one |
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| 16:02.48 | annma | macavity: i can confirm the bug report after you ake it. it'll speed process |
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| 16:03.34 | macavity | annma: thx.. but dont you wanna check that it is not me who is the idiot here first? ;-) |
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| 16:04.00 | annma | lol, macavity |
| 16:04.10 | macavity | just for good mesures |
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| 16:04.27 | macavity | i remember another time a few years ago, when i was infact wrong |
| 16:04.56 | t | Hey, how do I restore my kde menu to it's original state? (+ all the installed apps?) I just deleted .kde (accidentally admittedly) and it still has some things I added myself,... |
| 16:04.57 | annma | it happens to the bests, macavity |
| 16:05.15 | annma | t: in .local maybe |
| 16:07.22 | t | annma: Deleted those - just lots of Trash/ files... |
| 16:08.18 | macavity | fsck.. i cant pick "kdelibs" in the query search... |
| 16:08.34 | t | Arr where does kmenu get it's data from?! |
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| 16:08.51 | macavity | and 3.5.1 has not been added yet.. |
| 16:08.54 | macavity | *sigh* |
| 16:09.35 | annma | t: .config folder in your home |
| 16:09.42 | annma | i got confused, t |
| 16:09.54 | t | annma: Hmm thought I deleted that too... |
| 16:09.56 | PhilRod | t: ~/.config, ~/.local |
| 16:10.25 | t | k |
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| 16:11.30 | islamguide_com | i dunno why but whenever it try to drag out a box on the desktop or konqueror it lags |
| 16:11.40 | islamguide_com | even though 3d gives 10000fps |
| 16:11.50 | islamguide_com | anyone has the same problem? |
| 16:12.58 | lynxlynxlynx | is there a way to change font settings for all konsole sessions/tabs at once? |
| 16:13.35 | lynxlynxlynx | i tried changing the config in ~/.kde and then something with dcop to reread the config, but it didn't work |
| 16:14.03 | pinotree | lynxlynxlynx: no but if you set a new font and do save as default, it will apply to any new opened session |
| 16:14.04 | lynxlynxlynx | it's very tedious to change the same settings on all nine or so tabs separately |
| 16:14.31 | lynxlynxlynx | new doesn't cut it, i'd loose all the labels |
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| 16:15.10 | lynxlynxlynx | even after a reboot, they retain their settings |
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| 16:24.08 | sikor_sxe | is it possible to have a keyboard shortcut which shows the desktop? |
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| 16:24.30 | sikor_sxe | similar to the panel-applet |
| 16:24.43 | nael | sikor_sxe: Mmh, I do it with a shell script |
| 16:24.43 | lynxlynxlynx | sure |
| 16:24.46 | nael | With dcop calls |
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| 16:24.53 | lynxlynxlynx | bind a dcop action to it |
| 16:24.58 | sikor_sxe | alright |
| 16:24.58 | lynxlynxlynx | :) |
| 16:25.01 | sikor_sxe | i thought so too |
| 16:25.09 | sikor_sxe | but i did not find a dcop call for that |
| 16:25.17 | sikor_sxe | in neither kdesktop |
| 16:25.19 | sikor_sxe | nor kwin |
| 16:25.23 | lynxlynxlynx | there is one, i'm pretty sure |
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| 16:28.18 | Timmmm | Grrr.... OK I deleted .config, .local, .kde, /tmp/kde* /var/tmp/kde* and it *still* has menu entries I made myself. |
| 16:28.41 | Timmmm | And no kmail meny entry. |
| 16:29.50 | lynxlynxlynx | not that i can find it sikor_sxe :/ |
| 16:30.09 | sikor_sxe | me neither :/ |
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| 16:32.35 | Timmmm | Hmm... wtf!? I created a new shortcut and it saved it in /usr/share/applnk! That's surely a bug/security issue... |
| 16:32.41 | lostson | kde needs a built in multimedia keyboard handler like gnome has |
| 16:32.54 | lynxlynxlynx | there is lineak |
| 16:33.03 | lynxlynxlynx | or just xmodmap+khotkeys |
| 16:33.11 | lostson | lineak doesnt come with kde |
| 16:33.18 | lynxlynxlynx | nope |
| 16:33.22 | lostson | its just another thing i have to install |
| 16:33.53 | sikor_sxe | kbluetoothd gets started automatically with kde. where can i turn this off? |
| 16:33.55 | lynxlynxlynx | not if you use khotkeys |
| 16:33.55 | lostson | ive got 3 different text editors and 3 different media players though |
| 16:34.54 | Kiry | Hello |
| 16:35.10 | lynxlynxlynx | oj |
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| 16:38.46 | flurp | hi - is there anyone to get konqueror to ignore CVS directories in file browsing ? |
| 16:42.30 | grepper | you can get it to use your own style sheet |
| 16:43.19 | lostson | another itch add a window placement under mouse cursor in kwin |
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| 16:48.32 | pinotree | ~seen logixoul |
| 16:48.40 | apt | i haven't seen 'logixoul', pinotree |
| 16:48.53 | pinotree | apt: :) |
| 16:48.54 | apt | (: |
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| 16:54.09 | toothpick | kprinter prints nothing for me to pdf's, I'm running 3.5.1 |
| 16:54.26 | Etriaph | How do I turn off all of the features that require COMPOSITE? |
| 16:55.03 | Etriaph | I upgraded to KDE 3.5.1 and my display is really slow and choppy unless I enable composite in xorg.conf. Thing is, I don't want the features enabled. |
| 16:55.29 | macavity | annma: you still around? im almost ready to have my bug-report confirmed :P |
| 16:55.35 | annma | OK |
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| 16:56.51 | macavity | Bug 122573 |
| 16:57.05 | jmstylr | ubuntu 5.10/kde 3.5.1: when i select many icons in konqueror, the (translucent) selectbox draws very slowly as its area increases. any ideas why and what i can do about it? thanks |
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| 16:58.31 | PhilRod | jmstylr: sounds like that "rubberband" patch, or whatever it's called |
| 17:00.06 | annma | macavity: are those permissions universal on smb.conf? |
| 17:00.35 | jmstylr | PhilRod: aha, thanks! I turned that effect off in system settings and now i get a nice fast outline only... is the transcluent rubberband effect inherently slow or is there something i can do to speed it up? i have a reasonably fast CPU (A64 3500+) |
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| 17:01.26 | porter235 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:01.28 | PhilRod | jmstylr: no idea - it's a vendor patch, not part of normal kde |
| 17:01.33 | annma | macavity: $ ls -l /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 17:01.33 | annma | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 22207 Feb 23 12:00 /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 17:01.40 | PhilRod | porter235: part of kdeaddons, I think |
| 17:01.46 | stevenm | Hello. Using KDE 3.5, on the taskbar, the active windows are bold black, but the minimized window titles in the taskbar are gray and hard to read. Is there a way to make them black as well? |
| 17:02.23 | macavity | annma: that is what your settins are like |
| 17:02.27 | jmstylr | PhilRod: ok, thanks for your help then. |
| 17:02.37 | macavity | annma: i have carefully crafted mine |
| 17:02.41 | annma | macavity: but aren't mine the default? |
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| 17:02.49 | annma | ah so you're an exception |
| 17:03.02 | annma | it's more a wish than a bug in fact |
| 17:03.02 | macavity | annma: and if you check the kcontrol module for filesharing, it can actually do just that for you |
| 17:03.07 | macavity | nope |
| 17:03.41 | macavity | annma: kcontrol can set it up this way for you if you click: |
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| 17:04.18 | annma | Allow all users to share? |
| 17:04.54 | macavity | annma: KC -> Internet & Network -> File Sharing -> Advanced Sharing |
| 17:05.08 | annma | yes i am tehre |
| 17:05.14 | macavity | k |
| 17:05.24 | macavity | click "allowed users" |
| 17:06.08 | macavity | click "Only users of the '' group are allowed to share folders" |
| 17:06.17 | satan | what's a good mp3 bitrate converter, from say 320 to 192? |
| 17:06.36 | StevenR | satan: i think lame can do that |
| 17:06.39 | macavity | then change group, set it to users (or whatever your distro likes) |
| 17:06.50 | satan | cool, thanks, stevenr |
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| 17:07.25 | stevenm | Is there an option in an RC file somewhere to change the color of inactive window button captions in Kicker ? |
| 17:07.26 | pinotree | evening lauri |
| 17:07.36 | lauri | evening |
| 17:07.44 | PhilRod | lauri! |
| 17:07.54 | lauri | stevenm: no |
| 17:08.02 | macavity | annma: also check the "Group members can share folders whithout root password" |
| 17:08.05 | StevenR | satan: it's commandline, but powerful, seems it can alter bitrate, you might try kde-apps.org for a frontend |
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| 17:08.23 | macavity | annma: once you click OK, check your file permissions on smb.conf ;-D |
| 17:08.30 | annma | yes, i see |
| 17:08.38 | annma | yu're right |
| 17:08.38 | satan | stevenr: i think the commandline will be fine, as long as it does what i want, i dont care :) |
| 17:08.44 | StevenR | satan: cool :) |
| 17:10.23 | macavity | annma: i am always right ;-D |
| 17:10.27 | annma | but then i can access the Share tab as annma member of users |
| 17:10.37 | annma | in my shared folders |
| 17:10.52 | annma | i don't need to be root anymore |
| 17:10.58 | macavity | can you share more folders without passwords?!? |
| 17:11.10 | stevenm | lauri, what the heck? Is kde going the way of gnome? |
| 17:11.12 | annma | more folders? |
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| 17:11.19 | macavity | try to share another folder |
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| 17:11.40 | annma | macavity: but other folders have root permissions |
| 17:11.55 | macavity | i dont follow.. |
| 17:11.59 | porter235 | yep. |
| 17:12.07 | porter235 | aha! |
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| 17:12.11 | annma | the folders where annma member of users has permission i can share |
| 17:12.26 | annma | not the root-owned ones |
| 17:12.31 | macavity | that figures |
| 17:12.38 | annma | seems logical |
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| 17:13.25 | annma | the root owned folders needs to be set in kcontrol for sharing |
| 17:13.34 | macavity | yes |
| 17:13.35 | annma | the annma owned are all shared if I want |
| 17:13.43 | annma | without being in kcontrol |
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| 17:13.50 | macavity | from the very dialog i told you to use? |
| 17:13.57 | macavity | not the one in kc |
| 17:14.00 | annma | from the right click |
| 17:14.01 | macavity | but from konq |
| 17:14.02 | annma | yes |
| 17:14.05 | macavity | ?!?!? |
| 17:14.13 | macavity | i cant here |
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| 17:14.55 | macavity | nope, nada, silch |
| 17:15.13 | macavity | what the heck is this all about..... |
| 17:15.44 | annma | let me show you some screenshots |
| 17:15.59 | macavity | that would be nice..... |
| 17:16.49 | annma | http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kcontrolshare6ks.png |
| 17:16.53 | annma | my kcontrol settings |
| 17:17.12 | annma | note that /home/annma is not in the shared list |
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| 17:17.34 | macavity | i dont have NFS but other wise the same |
| 17:18.11 | macavity | hmm |
| 17:18.11 | annma | http://img54.imageshack.us/my.php?image=konqrightclick11jj.png |
| 17:18.31 | annma | this is rigth click on /home/ammna/Music |
| 17:18.46 | annma | i can then give shared permission without being root |
| 17:19.01 | macavity | that is so odd... |
| 17:19.13 | annma | in your macavity home you cannot? |
| 17:19.14 | macavity | the only thing that differs is that i dont allow NFS |
| 17:19.23 | annma | i can remove that |
| 17:19.35 | annma | the other thing is that i have kde from kde svn source |
| 17:19.40 | macavity | i doubt that it should be it.. but then again.. |
| 17:19.54 | macavity | hmm.. so it might be fixed |
| 17:20.16 | annma | same if i remove NFS |
| 17:20.22 | macavity | hmm.. |
| 17:20.26 | annma | it just is not allowed in home/annma |
| 17:20.35 | annma | it's disabled |
| 17:20.41 | macavity | same here |
| 17:20.46 | macavity | i dont do NFS at all |
| 17:21.00 | annma | I don't share usually |
| 17:21.04 | annma | i just installed samba |
| 17:21.09 | annma | right now to test |
| 17:21.09 | macavity | thx :-) |
| 17:21.23 | annma | my system is all clean |
| 17:21.32 | macavity | this beats the *e** out of me.. |
| 17:21.37 | annma | meaning my .kde settings are all pristine |
| 17:21.51 | annma | did you try a new user? |
| 17:22.10 | macavity | i installed this box last week, when i saw that slackware-current had gotten 3.5.1 |
| 17:22.27 | annma | yes, weird then |
| 17:22.43 | macavity | and generally i just wipe my .kde if something doesnt go well |
| 17:23.00 | nael | [18:21] <annma> meaning my .kde settings are all pristine > rm -rf .* ? :p *sorry* |
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| 17:23.04 | annma | all my annma-owned folders can be shared without being root |
| 17:23.16 | annma | nael: LOL yes! i lost my mail btw |
| 17:23.27 | annma | silly thing than to put Mail in .kde |
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| 17:23.35 | lauri | wiping .kde is really bad advice to give to other people though, no matter how casually you may do it yourself |
| 17:23.36 | nael | :/ |
| 17:23.46 | annma | lauri: i did it by mistake |
| 17:23.55 | lauri | annma: that was for macavity :) |
| 17:24.00 | annma | ;-) |
| 17:24.01 | sam^ | fd |
| 17:24.02 | annma | ok |
| 17:24.30 | annma | but i am quite mad at KMail in fact |
| 17:24.37 | macavity | annma: technically you can add shares to other peoples folders too.. just hand-edit smb.conf with the path and the guest-ok, and you have access to other account's files |
| 17:24.56 | sredna | Hi annma :-) |
| 17:25.12 | annma | macavity: but i guess the share dialog will work as well |
| 17:25.16 | annma | hi sredna |
| 17:25.29 | macavity | annma: this befuddles me... |
| 17:25.37 | annma | sredna: i fixed too many doc bugs in koffice and got widely flamed |
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| 17:25.50 | annma | that's for being a doc carer |
| 17:25.52 | lauri | that's kind of understating it |
| 17:26.17 | lauri | #kde-docs if you want to talk about it |
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| 17:26.23 | annma | how can't i been not mixed between 3.5, trunk, koffice, and all |
| 17:26.30 | macavity | annma: but if you have SVN, would it be safe to conclude that this bug is "resolved"? |
| 17:26.42 | annma | macavity: yes i cannot reproduce it |
| 17:27.05 | macavity | is there someone here with kde 3.5.1 who is up for a litle experiment? |
| 17:27.22 | annma | so i won't confirm it for now |
| 17:27.27 | macavity | that figures |
| 17:27.40 | macavity | we need to see it from another 3.5.1-vanilla user |
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| 17:28.19 | sredna | annma: I read the list ;) |
| 17:28.41 | sredna | annma: You are doing a tremendous job, the flaming is completely out of line |
| 17:28.42 | macavity | sredna: you happen to have a 3.5.1 handy? |
| 17:28.52 | sredna | macavity: I'm using it |
| 17:29.03 | macavity | up to lend us a hand |
| 17:29.34 | macavity | ? |
| 17:29.53 | macavity | try and set your smb.conf to root:users -rw-rw-r-- |
| 17:30.07 | annma | thanks sredna |
| 17:30.32 | macavity | and check if you can share without suppling the root-pw, using the right-click menu in konq |
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| 17:31.49 | Ash-Fox | Yay for flooding |
| 17:31.50 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:32.00 | StevenR | oops |
| 17:32.05 | pinotree | lol |
| 17:32.09 | macavity | annma: in the free and open source world it becomes more and more fashionable to bite the hand that feeds you ;-D |
| 17:32.17 | annma | lol |
| 17:32.33 | macavity | ive seen this happen to a lot of the GNU hackers too.... |
| 17:32.41 | macavity | it is just *so* bad taste imho |
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| 17:32.58 | macavity | wb :P |
| 17:33.08 | sredna | Sorry |
| 17:33.11 | macavity | np |
| 17:33.14 | sredna | But, no such file or directory |
| 17:33.24 | macavity | huh? |
| 17:33.44 | sredna | macavity: I have no smb.conf |
| 17:33.52 | sredna | And I dont' want one :-) |
| 17:33.57 | macavity | ah |
| 17:33.59 | macavity | dooh :P |
| 17:34.20 | macavity | then i would deem that you are of little value to this experiment ;-) |
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| 17:35.05 | macavity | annma: ill investigate a little further, and drop by later.. if nessecary ill try the same on another distro |
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| 17:35.15 | macavity | annma: but thx a lot for all the help |
| 17:35.17 | annma | yes, ok macavity |
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| 17:36.29 | Evodawg | How do I get rid of that annoying tool tip window? The one that appears when you place your mouse pointer over a ICON. |
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| 17:36.51 | PhilRod | Evodawg: do you mean the ones in kicker? |
| 17:37.32 | Evodawg | No the one that shows up when you place it over for example Invite in this window |
| 17:37.58 | Evodawg | No got rid of that one |
| 17:38.33 | Evodawg | that one was really annoying |
| 17:38.54 | AllenJB|2 | How can I get Konqueror (KDE 3.5.1) to open URLs from other apps in a new tab instead of a new window? The option in konqueror is checked, but when I call it with "konqueror <url>" from xchat it still opens a new window instead of a new tab |
| 17:39.03 | Evodawg | big huge tool tip that covered half the screen |
| 17:40.27 | Evodawg | hate those tool tip windows, they cover stuff when you need to read what's under them. |
| 17:41.47 | Evodawg | AllenJB|2: think that option is in Konqueror preferences not sure I use Firefox |
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| 17:42.36 | AllenJB|2 | Evodawg: As I said in the explanation, the option in konquerors preferences is checked, but it's still opening a new window instead of a new tab. |
| 17:42.59 | PhilRod | Evodawg: you mean kopete? |
| 17:43.06 | PhilRod | your explanation is a bit lacking |
| 17:43.55 | StevenR | AllenJB|2: which option specifically? |
| 17:43.59 | Evodawg | Ok it for instance you place your mouse pointer over INVITE in this window I will get a tool tip |
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| 17:44.23 | Evodawg | I would llike to get rid of it |
| 17:44.53 | StevenR | Evodawg: we still don't know what tooltip you're talking about |
| 17:44.58 | AllenJB|2 | StevenR: Web Bebhaviour -> Tabbed Browsing -> Advanced -> [X] Open as tab in existing konqueror when URL is called externally |
| 17:45.36 | AllenJB|2 | StevenR: Also Web Behaviour -> Tabbed Browsing -> [X] Open links in new tab isntead of new window |
| 17:45.37 | Evodawg | StevenR: do you see the icon invite under this screen |
| 17:45.37 | Evodawg | ? |
| 17:45.40 | PhilRod | Evodawg: bearing in mind that I can't see your screen, and therefore don't know what "this window" is, can you explain more precisely? |
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| 17:46.04 | PhilRod | oh my life |
| 17:46.38 | StevenR | Evodawg: I see no icon marked or called invite. We cannot see your screen, we don't know what you are seeing. You must be more descriptive if you wish to get help |
| 17:46.39 | Evodawg | PhilRod: do you see the invite icon below this screen? |
| 17:46.54 | Evodawg | your screen |
| 17:47.03 | PhilRod | no |
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| 17:47.21 | StevenR | Evodawg: please provide a screenshot of your problem |
| 17:47.27 | PhilRod | ah, good idea StevenR |
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| 17:48.09 | Evodawg | Well it only happens when I place my mouse pointer over an application icon does not happen in kicker |
| 17:48.51 | PhilRod | oh, you mean the tooltips that pop up when you mouseover a desktop icon |
| 17:48.55 | PhilRod | we're finally getting somewhere |
| 17:49.34 | Evodawg | no applications icon not desktop |
| 17:49.39 | StevenR | AllenJB|2: possibly you could use kfmclient to call konqueror instead |
| 17:50.04 | PhilRod | Evodawg: I mean "icons that are displayed on the desktop", which might be application icons |
| 17:50.09 | Evodawg | the tool tip does not show up on the desktop just application icons |
| 17:50.12 | StevenR | Evodawg: please please provide a screenshot. use ksnapshot with a delay set on it to allow the tooltip to appeat |
| 17:50.18 | StevenR | *appear |
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| 17:51.37 | toothpick | If kprinter is not making pdf's on 3.51 version of KDE what suggestions can you offer? |
| 17:51.53 | StevenR | toothpick: run it from a terminal, see if it gives you any hints |
| 17:52.11 | StevenR | toothpick: could be you're missing a tool it needs |
| 17:52.13 | Evodawg | StevenR: not sure how to do a screen shot |
| 17:52.26 | StevenR | Evodawg: already told you, ksnapshot with a delay set |
| 17:52.43 | Evodawg | in console |
| 17:52.57 | toothpick | ok StevenR, thanks |
| 17:54.40 | Evodawg | ksnapshot -2 ???? |
| 17:55.43 | StevenR | Evodawg: just ksnapshot, it's a nice gui app |
| 17:56.06 | Evodawg | is see it |
| 17:56.07 | AllenJB|2 | StevenR: That worked perfectly. Thanks. |
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| 17:57.17 | netG | hi |
| 17:57.40 | Evodawg | StevenR: how do I get it to you now? |
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| 17:57.49 | netG | I noticed a feature in Suse 10 and I would like to have it on my gentoo too |
| 17:58.16 | annma | yes, it's easy, install Suse! |
| 17:58.16 | StevenR | Evodawg: use some free image hosting site possibly |
| 17:58.18 | netG | I have REBOOT menu with grub choices in kdm |
| 17:58.31 | StevenR | Evodawg: or if you have some webspace, there |
| 17:58.36 | netG | And it really works |
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| 17:59.31 | annma | netG: so what is the feature? |
| 17:59.47 | PhilRod | Evodawg: imageshack.us lets you upload images |
| 18:00.03 | annma | netG: do you mean you have reboot in Suse and not in gentoo? |
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| 18:00.17 | netG | annma: Yes I mean this... |
| 18:00.33 | annma | do you have acpi enabled on your gentoo box? |
| 18:01.09 | annma | and did you look in KControl abot kdm settings? |
| 18:01.10 | netG | I acn't select the system I want to boot after shutdown |
| 18:01.46 | netG | Sorry I really have to go now.... |
| 18:02.08 | netG | Bye thanks |
| 18:02.08 | annma | enable acpi and set things in kcontrol |
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| 18:02.36 | netG | I'll try... thanks! |
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| 18:03.05 | phriedrich | what does a "kio_http: WARNING: KLocale: trying to look up "" in catalog. Fix the program" mean? a not correctly set locale? |
| 18:03.37 | pinotree | no, a "faulty" app |
| 18:03.42 | PhilRod | phriedrich: probably nothing - you can switch it off with kdebugdialog, I expect |
| 18:03.43 | pinotree | safely ignore |
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| 18:03.54 | phriedrich | ok, thanks then |
| 18:03.59 | phriedrich | bye :) |
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| 18:07.50 | uludag | hey anyone help me? about suse 10? |
| 18:08.09 | uludag | pls |
| 18:08.24 | PhilRod | uludag: just ask your question |
| 18:08.46 | uludag | i cant connect internet by ethernet |
| 18:09.06 | uludag | im using 4 port router |
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| 18:09.46 | oGALAXYo | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:10.53 | Evodawg | StevenR: http://img228.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot14fc.png Link to screenshot |
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| 18:11.21 | Evodawg | that was a process |
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| 18:12.23 | PhilRod | Evodawg: that invite button is from gaim, which isn't part of KDE |
| 18:12.50 | Evodawg | right but if I put my mouse pointer over invite I get a tool tip |
| 18:13.10 | Evodawg | this does not happen in kicker or the desktop |
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| 18:13.38 | Evodawg | it does happen in firefox and other applications |
| 18:14.32 | Evodawg | but this is a kde config setting |
| 18:14.42 | dashinho | Hey, I am trying to compile a window decoration for my KDE 3.5.1, but I got this error while configuring... checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.2) (headers and libraries) not found. Please check your installation! |
| 18:14.45 | lauri | what is your actual question? |
| 18:14.57 | PhilRod | dashinho: install qt-devel |
| 18:15.00 | lauri | you want tooltips in KDE applications, or you want gaim and firefox (which are not KDE applications) to stop giving you tooltips? |
| 18:15.17 | Evodawg | I dont want any tool tips |
| 18:15.18 | annma | dashinho: install qt-devel from your distro |
| 18:15.24 | Evodawg | their annoying as hell |
| 18:15.33 | dashinho | Ok. Let me try that. |
| 18:15.49 | annma | dashinho: all qt packages |
| 18:16.24 | dashinho | ok. |
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| 18:16.41 | lauri | Evodawg: ok, but a KDE wide configuration setting won't affect non-kde applications |
| 18:17.11 | lauri | so you need to look in the gaim or firefox configurations to see if you can turn those off |
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| 18:18.32 | Evodawg | ok but I have looked and I'm still thinking this is a KDE setting |
| 18:18.40 | Evodawg | somewhere |
| 18:18.58 | lauri | and I am telling you point blank, it is not |
| 18:19.11 | lauri | firefox and gaim are not KDE applications and do not take any notice of KDE's settings |
| 18:19.26 | Evodawg | I know |
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| 18:19.48 | lauri | then there is no KDE setting you can change to turn off tooltips in gaim |
| 18:19.51 | Evodawg | hmmmm youre probably right cause its not happening in konqueror |
| 18:20.09 | lauri | which is a KDE application, and does abide by KDE wide settings |
| 18:20.14 | Armi^ | hi all. I just installed kamera under kde. How can I access my photocamera? |
| 18:20.47 | lauri | Armi^: is there not a wizard when you first run kamera? |
| 18:20.49 | Evodawg | ok thanks for the trouble |
| 18:21.08 | lauri | if not, the add a camera icon is first on the toolbar |
| 18:22.15 | Armi^ | lauri: ok, i had the izard |
| 18:22.21 | Armi^ | lauri: and now? |
| 18:22.29 | lauri | click it? |
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| 18:22.47 | vendeg | name Zooty |
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| 18:23.28 | Armi^ | lauri: when i see it in the wizard an click it, it shows the driver info |
| 18:23.45 | lauri | I don't have a camera handy to see what it does |
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| 18:23.58 | Stc | hello |
| 18:24.23 | lauri | hi |
| 18:25.13 | Stc | i have this problem "cdrecord has no permission to open the device you may use k3b setup2 " |
| 18:25.17 | Stc | how i do ? ;) |
| 18:25.23 | Stc | ubuntu dapper |
| 18:25.30 | Stc | ops breezy |
| 18:26.17 | Armi^ | lauri: oeps, I entered 'kamera:/' in konquror in stead of 'camera:/' |
| 18:26.20 | Armi^ | :P |
| 18:26.24 | lauri | heh |
| 18:26.33 | lauri | I keep going to type kamera in here, so I know what you mean :) |
| 18:26.36 | Armi^ | thanx for the help |
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| 18:26.58 | lauri | sorry I was a bit vague, but my camera doesn't have a usb cable, I have a card reader (and kamera doesn't like it much) |
| 18:27.10 | Armi^ | aha |
| 18:30.38 | annma | Stc: type k3bsetup in konsole |
| 18:31.03 | annma | Stc: or k3b + tab to see if you have k3b setup and how it s spelled |
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| 18:37.13 | g3nocide | can anyone tell me why my keyboard dies on starting kde ? |
| 18:37.23 | PhilRod | try with a new user |
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| 18:47.01 | purplehermit9 | ciao a tutti |
| 18:47.18 | PhilRod | ciao purplehermit9 |
| 18:47.26 | purplehermit9 | posso chiedere agli esperti una questione rugiardo kde 3.5? |
| 18:47.28 | purplehermit9 | :-) |
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| 18:48.00 | purplehermit9 | prima avevo 3.4 poi ho provato la 3.5 |
| 18:48.17 | purplehermit9 | ma mi è scomparsa la voce "appearance" da looknfell per quanto riguarda i panel |
| 18:48.21 | annma | english only please |
| 18:48.37 | purplehermit9 | e volevo sapere se qualcuno poteva aiutarmi |
| 18:48.47 | purplehermit9 | ehmm...non ci sono italiani? |
| 18:48.49 | purplehermit9 | only english? |
| 18:48.54 | annma | i don't know if there is an it channel but hee we speak english |
| 18:48.59 | annma | yes |
| 18:49.04 | purplehermit9 | ok :-) |
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| 18:49.08 | purplehermit9 | i have installed kde 3.5 |
| 18:49.17 | purplehermit9 | i always have used kde 3.4 |
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| 18:49.33 | purplehermit9 | but now in 3.5 i cant found the appearance tab in looknfell |
| 18:49.51 | purplehermit9 | can anyone help me? |
| 18:50.33 | annma | what do you want to change? |
| 18:50.43 | annma | in KControl? |
| 18:50.52 | purplehermit9 | the color of the application panel |
| 18:51.25 | purplehermit9 | if right click on application panel -> configure panel...i have only 4 tab..instead of 5 |
| 18:51.36 | purplehermit9 | the appearance tab is missing |
| 18:51.50 | annma | this is a distro problem |
| 18:51.58 | annma | what is your distro? |
| 18:52.01 | purplehermit9 | uff.. :-( |
| 18:52.03 | purplehermit9 | mandriva |
| 18:52.06 | purplehermit9 | the lastest |
| 18:52.09 | purplehermit9 | latest |
| 18:52.20 | Wendain | I have the same issue |
| 18:52.22 | annma | official packages? |
| 18:52.30 | annma | Wendain: also Mandriva? |
| 18:52.33 | purplehermit9 | i have installed it form linux pro dvd |
| 18:52.37 | Wendain | yes |
| 18:52.46 | annma | did you try a new user? |
| 18:53.26 | Wendain | no that I didn't try but I totally removed .kde and and still wasn't there |
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| 18:53.31 | purplehermit9 | humm i think that it is possible to send the kcmshell module if anyone want to send it :-) |
| 18:53.42 | ninniuz | hi is there any german or spanish kde user? |
| 18:53.56 | purplehermit9 | anyone have a kde appearance tab exisintg here? :-) |
| 18:54.04 | annma | purplehermit9: this is not as easy as that |
| 18:54.16 | annma | try a new user first |
| 18:54.17 | purplehermit9 | so we can laung kcmshelledit to read the command in the schedule |
| 18:54.28 | purplehermit9 | i have try..but is also missing |
| 18:54.29 | annma | i am sure your module is thee |
| 18:54.32 | annma | there |
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| 18:54.45 | annma | ask in #mandriva |
| 18:54.48 | purplehermit9 | i dont know the module right name |
| 18:54.59 | ninniuz | anyone using kde in german or spanish here? |
| 18:55.00 | annma | there was a guy hee who is a packager and he had this issue |
| 18:55.01 | purplehermit9 | i dont think is "appearance" |
| 18:55.03 | Wendain | ok brb |
| 18:56.08 | annma | purplehermit9: kcmshell panel |
| 18:56.18 | annma | it's a whole widget with several tas |
| 18:56.20 | annma | tabs |
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| 18:56.46 | litb | is there a pure KDE search like beagle for gnome is ? |
| 18:57.02 | annma | beagle? |
| 18:57.05 | purplehermit9 | if i launch kcmshell panel i have only 3 tab |
| 18:57.08 | litb | and without dependencies like *-charp and such? |
| 18:57.10 | purplehermit9 | arrangement hiding and menus |
| 18:57.10 | PhilRod | litb: kat |
| 18:57.12 | lauri | litb: http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/45 |
| 18:57.37 | litb | it looks kidding, this kat as background |
| 18:57.43 | lauri | and kat and tenor for KDE 4 |
| 18:57.46 | annma | purplehermit9: ask in #mandriva why is that |
| 18:57.57 | annma | purplehermit9: also look in mandriva forums |
| 18:57.57 | purplehermit9 | can anyone run kcmshelledit and read what i tell to you? |
| 18:58.25 | lauri | kcmshelledit? |
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| 18:58.29 | purplehermit9 | yes |
| 18:58.36 | annma | bash: kcmshelledit: command not found |
| 18:58.40 | Wendain | does the same for a new user |
| 18:58.47 | lauri | where did you find that? |
| 18:58.59 | lauri | and what is it for? |
| 18:59.05 | purplehermit9 | humm |
| 18:59.06 | annma | Wendain: purplehermit9 ask in #mandriva |
| 18:59.17 | annma | purplehermit9: i run kde from kde sources by the way |
| 18:59.17 | lauri | indeed, probably a distribution tool |
| 18:59.23 | Wendain | annma: they sent me here :) |
| 18:59.35 | annma | Wendain: tell them it WORKS in vanilla KDE |
| 18:59.38 | litb | lauri: i know, but it depends on beagle |
| 18:59.45 | lauri | litb: that is what you were asking for I thought |
| 18:59.48 | litb | which depends on these sharp thingy |
| 18:59.49 | lauri | litb: in that case, kat |
| 18:59.50 | purplehermit9 | i have made a mistake |
| 18:59.52 | purplehermit9 | kcontroledit |
| 18:59.53 | Wendain | and itworks for most of them there to |
| 19:00.00 | annma | most of them? |
| 19:00.05 | litb | lauri: kerry ? |
| 19:00.15 | litb | i thought it depends on beagle ~~ |
| 19:00.27 | lauri | kerry depends on beagle, I thought that is what you asked for |
| 19:00.30 | purplehermit9 | can someone launch kcontroledit and read me the command to pass on kcmshell to open the appearance tab? |
| 19:00.33 | lauri | kat does not have anything to do with beagle |
| 19:00.47 | Wendain | all the ones in there running 3.5.1 yes |
| 19:00.48 | lauri | purplehermit9: why do you want to touch kcontroledit, which is really not a user tool |
| 19:00.49 | litb | yeah, but kat looks kidding |
| 19:00.58 | annma | the tabs are not separated, purplehermit9 |
| 19:01.06 | lauri | if you want a list of modules to use, kcmshell --list will tell you what you have access to |
| 19:01.12 | annma | purplehermit9: there is only kcmshell panel as I told you |
| 19:01.31 | lauri | and anything not in kcmshell --list, is not directly openable |
| 19:01.35 | purplehermit9 | i have make kcmshell -list but appearance dont not appear ;-) |
| 19:01.41 | purplehermit9 | in the list |
| 19:01.44 | lauri | Wendain: ok, you're up next :) |
| 19:01.51 | lauri | purplehermit9: then you cannot open it directly from the commandline |
| 19:01.51 | annma | appearance is NOT a module, purplehermit9 |
| 19:01.55 | lauri | what annma said |
| 19:02.00 | purplehermit9 | ok |
| 19:02.15 | lauri | Wendain: your keyboard stops working when KDE starts, with any user, even one that has never run KDE before? |
| 19:02.17 | annma | purplehermit9: I told you that kcmshell panel is a whole widget with several tabs, you cannot access each tab individually |
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| 19:02.23 | purplehermit9 | appearance is part of another module..is in panel? |
| 19:02.38 | purplehermit9 | ahh ok |
| 19:03.04 | aseigo | purplehermit9: your problem is that the appearance page doesn't appear when you right click on kicker? |
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| 19:03.05 | Wendain | lauri: KB works fine never stops it's the appearance tab thats gone |
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| 19:03.09 | purplehermit9 | and how can i acces to appearance tab if it is not there? |
| 19:03.19 | purplehermit9 | yes |
| 19:03.29 | annma | you can't |
| 19:03.36 | lauri | oh, you are with purplehermit |
| 19:03.36 | annma | ask in #mandriva |
| 19:03.41 | Wendain | or what file is it to edit |
| 19:03.47 | dclp | Hi everyBody... My Cervisia (KDE CVS client) always ask my for my password..... How can I save it? |
| 19:03.47 | aseigo | purplehermit9: then the problem is that your XDG_CONFIG_DIRS and XDG_DATA_DIRS are not set correctly |
| 19:03.53 | purplehermit9 | but why kcmshell panel dosn not have inside the appearance tab in my distro? |
| 19:04.05 | aseigo | purplehermit9: thank whoever made your KDE packages... or if you installed from source, yourself ;) |
| 19:04.07 | annma | purplehermit9: because your distro made a mistake? |
| 19:04.17 | lauri | purplehermit9: because distributions make choices, and we have no cointrol over those choices |
| 19:04.32 | purplehermit9 | ok...so you think is a distro choice |
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| 19:04.44 | lauri | assuming it's even installed, you can probably edit ~/.kde/share/config/kcontrolrc or find the global one in $KDEDIRS/share/config/kcontrolrc |
| 19:04.49 | annma | purplehermit9: this is a mandriva mess as it has its own menu and such things, it messed with kde settings |
| 19:05.05 | lauri | dclp: don't log out |
| 19:05.07 | annma | purplehermit9: it's not a distro choice, it's a distro mess |
| 19:05.07 | Wendain | ok thje only trouble with that answer for me is, we are all using the same rpms and all using 2006 and only a few are fewing the tab for appearance |
| 19:05.08 | PhilRod | aseigo: but if XDG_* was incorrectly set, would *anything* show in kcontrol? |
| 19:05.22 | Wendain | eer missing |
| 19:05.24 | dclp | lauri, Souceforge "FORCE" logouts |
| 19:05.29 | lauri | dclp: logging out removes the passwrod from your .cvspass, logging in in fact only saves it to there |
| 19:05.35 | lauri | so make your .cvspass immutable |
| 19:05.47 | lauri | if your operating system lets you do that |
| 19:05.55 | purplehermit9 | and if i download a new kcmshell files from someone? |
| 19:06.01 | lauri | (and remember that you did that, next time you want to log into a new server) |
| 19:06.15 | lauri | dclp: you sure? they disconnect you sure, but that's not the same thing as a cvs logout |
| 19:06.31 | annma | purplehermit9: in konsole type: echo $XDG_CONFIG_DIRS |
| 19:06.41 | lauri | (in fact, you never need to log in, if you have the password in .cvspass, and copy the file to a new machine, you are considered logged in still) |
| 19:06.45 | Wendain | ok 1 simple question then, what file sets the balloon text in the panel |
| 19:06.46 | aseigo | PhilRod: yes. there are default paths |
| 19:07.02 | lauri | oh look it's an aseigo |
| 19:07.16 | annma | purplehermit9: paste result |
| 19:07.29 | lauri | can I make an appointment to talk to your busy-ness some time in the next few days |
| 19:07.30 | aseigo | hey lauri |
| 19:07.42 | aseigo | lauri: sure.. i'm around the house for the next few weeks actually |
| 19:07.47 | lauri | okie dokie |
| 19:08.02 | lauri | I would do it right now, but my brain is too fried |
| 19:08.08 | annma | purplehermit9: ? |
| 19:08.22 | lauri | Wendain: you do not edit files to do things in KDE |
| 19:08.27 | lauri | if it's in a file, it's in the gui |
| 19:08.56 | lauri | there's hardly an option that is only accessible via hand editing config files, and most of them are pretty arcane (this may not be always true of KDE, one hopes, but right now, it pretty much is) |
| 19:09.07 | dclp | I dont know wy, but sourceforge dont make a active connection... Some like that..... |
| 19:09.36 | lauri | dclp: cvs doesn't, the thing is, all that cvs login does, is auth you and then save the password in your .cvspass |
| 19:09.45 | lauri | and all that cvs logout does, is remove that saved password from .cvspass |
| 19:09.54 | aseigo | hey pradeepto |
| 19:10.20 | pradeepto | hello aseigo |
| 19:10.34 | dclp | so i will remove acsess permission from cvspass.. Never remove my pass again =) |
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| 19:11.09 | carlos | #suse |
| 19:11.10 | Wendain | lauri: that maybe I'm fairly ignorant of KDE files, but I see alot of true and false statements in some of the rc files so I'd have to wonde |
| 19:11.35 | lauri | and I am telling you, every single one of them is exposed in the GUI |
| 19:11.49 | lauri | and if they're not, that is not our doing |
| 19:12.24 | Wendain | I don't I said it was your fault :) |
| 19:12.31 | Wendain | or doing |
| 19:12.37 | Wendain | I asked how do I get there |
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| 19:13.58 | litb | how can i run mplayer in the rootwindow with the icons and the iconstext being still there ? |
| 19:14.04 | litb | and just the background replaced ? |
| 19:14.23 | annma | Wendain: look in #mandriva |
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| 19:14.27 | carlos | #kade-es |
| 19:14.33 | annma | Wendain: same bug in kde 3.5.1 packages |
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| 19:16.01 | Wendain | annma: thats the ones I'm using |
| 19:16.22 | annma | so it is officially a mandriva bug |
| 19:16.57 | annma | besides even KControl arrangement is not the same |
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| 19:17.26 | Wendain | well except it works for everyone in there running 3.5.1 when I asked this morning so I'd have to say no |
| 19:17.58 | Wendain | it seems to just be a "some" of us bug |
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| 19:18.30 | annma | the guy who tested said he had it |
| 19:18.35 | annma | a random guy |
| 19:18.36 | Wendain | I really just wanna know how to kill off the mouse over it effects it's so ugly |
| 19:18.58 | annma | Wendain: next time ask for the ones who have it to take a screenshot |
| 19:19.05 | annma | so you can chjeck |
| 19:19.12 | Wendain | ok will do |
| 19:19.21 | annma | because denial is easy |
| 19:19.45 | blackvd | quick question about changing my K menu icon in the taskbar. How do i do it? |
| 19:19.58 | annma | look at the FAQ -> topic |
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| 19:21.14 | sheldonh | is it a bug that /branches/arts/1.5/arts/soundserver/gslplayobject_impl.cc tries to include soundserver.h instead of soundserver_impl.h? the former seems to be nonexistent |
| 19:21.44 | annma | sheldonh: svn branches? |
| 19:21.44 | sheldonh | said another way, can someone tell me where soundserver.h is supposed to come from for the arts 1.5 build? |
| 19:21.53 | sheldonh | annma: *nod* |
| 19:21.59 | annma | did you svn up recently? |
| 19:22.12 | sheldonh | annma: yup, but it's been like this for a while |
| 19:22.25 | annma | define a while |
| 19:22.28 | annma | how long? |
| 19:22.29 | dclp | lauri, imutable .cvspass doesnt work...... I thik my cervisia use ssh |
| 19:22.43 | annma | it builds for me, sheldonh |
| 19:22.52 | annma | no changes except in admin/ |
| 19:23.06 | Wendain | annma: ok one last quick question please |
| 19:23.22 | sheldonh | annma: got it, but you probably have a fully checked out src tree, plus maybe even old versions of soundserver.h installed. so can you tell me where soundserver.h exists in your tree? |
| 19:23.29 | Wendain | what disto you use? |
| 19:23.41 | sheldonh | annma: websvn has no search featurei can find, and i'm loath to suck down the entire kde src tree |
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| 19:23.56 | annma | sheldonh: first what include does the arts file use? |
| 19:24.03 | annma | Wendain: why? |
| 19:24.18 | annma | I have kde from kde svn source, Wendain |
| 19:24.29 | sheldonh | annma: gslplayobject_impl.cc includes "soundserver.h", which doesn't exist in the directory in which gslplayobject_impl.cc exists |
| 19:24.31 | EvilGuru | I am having a problem with auto-like mounting in kde |
| 19:24.42 | Wendain | I can't say in this channel it in the topic, lets just say I'm getting tired of mandrivas ways |
| 19:24.44 | EvilGuru | it detects my drive fine and pops up a couple of windows |
| 19:24.49 | EvilGuru | asking me what I want to do |
| 19:26.40 | EvilGuru | when I say ok to open up a new window I get told that it is not in /etc/fstab |
| 19:26.41 | annma | sheldonh: there is a soundserver.h in arts source |
| 19:26.41 | EvilGuru | but, why should it be? |
| 19:26.42 | annma | sheldonh: I just edited it |
| 19:26.43 | sheldonh | annma: great. in which directory? |
| 19:26.43 | purplehermit9 | annma |
| 19:26.43 | benJIman|tov | EvilGuru: what distro are you using? |
| 19:26.44 | purplehermit9 | "/var/lib/menu-xdg" |
| 19:26.44 | annma | purplehermit9: it is a mandriva problem |
| 19:26.45 | annma | i cheked with a mandriva guy |
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| 19:26.46 | purplehermit9 | why you tell me that? |
| 19:26.46 | EvilGuru | gentoo, with hal and dbus |
| 19:26.48 | annma | sheldonh: arts/soundserver/ |
| 19:26.48 | EvilGuru | is there any special stuff I need to do for removeable media |
| 19:26.49 | purplehermit9 | there a chance to resolve it? |
| 19:26.49 | annma | purplehermit9: because then mandriva will tell you how to fix it |
| 19:26.50 | jhutchins | purplehermit9: It's a mandriva packaging problem. |
| 19:26.55 | annma | sheldonh: you should recheck out your sources |
| 19:26.55 | jhutchins | They've rearranged the kcontrol menu, and they appear to have left out the appearance menu for kpanel. |
| 19:26.55 | purplehermit9 | how can i fix it? |
| 19:27.03 | annma | you cannot |
| 19:27.12 | sheldonh | annma: um...wow, okay |
| 19:27.15 | jhutchins | purplehermit9: I suppose you could install kde from the svn system. |
| 19:27.22 | purplehermit9 | neither download another kcnotrol menu? |
| 19:27.38 | sheldonh | annma: you at rev 512849 ? |
| 19:27.40 | annma | sheldonh: cd arts/soundserver |
| 19:27.41 | jhutchins | purplehermit9: Or you can report it (more likely vote on an existing report) on qa.mandriva.com |
| 19:27.54 | annma | Revision: 512849 |
| 19:27.55 | jhutchins | purplehermit9: Don't mix sources. |
| 19:28.02 | sheldonh | annma: just to be clear, you're in branches/arts/1.5/arts/soundserver ? |
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| 19:28.17 | annma | it's a generated file |
| 19:28.30 | sheldonh | ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 19:28.31 | annma | let me look at the Makefile.am |
| 19:28.45 | infinitezeros | mmm thinking of arts...... |
| 19:28.46 | purplehermit9 | hummm |
| 19:28.56 | purplehermit9 | and if i upgrade to kde 3.5.1? |
| 19:29.08 | sheldonh | annma: i'll bet you this is a "works with unsermake, broken with automake" thing :) |
| 19:29.20 | annma | not at all, sheldonh |
| 19:29.27 | annma | automake is default for kde |
| 19:29.39 | annma | everything compiles with automake and i run automake myself |
| 19:29.47 | infinitezeros | im running kde 3.2 with a linux-2.6.** and a sb-live soundcard....i dont seem to be able to play midi files... any inputs anyone? |
| 19:30.29 | annma | the soundserver.h is mentioned in Makefile.am |
| 19:30.33 | annma | so not generated |
| 19:31.00 | sheldonh | annma: i'm pretty sure it's generated. see line 94 |
| 19:31.06 | annma | purplehermit9: the guy who reported it has it under 3.5.1 |
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| 19:31.19 | EvilGuru | this kde mouting stuff is weird, accoring to konqueror '/' is not mounted, and when I click it to mount it says that it is already mounted |
| 19:31.52 | annma | sheldonh: make clean does not removeit though |
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| 19:32.52 | annma | sheldonh: ah make distclean removes it |
| 19:32.55 | sheldonh | annma: well, i feel much better now :) |
| 19:32.57 | annma | sheldonh: I am rebuilding it |
| 19:33.24 | annma | to see wether it is generated here |
| 19:33.41 | annma | sheldonh: you take it directly from svn? not a gentoo ebuild? |
| 19:33.51 | annma | or a LFS? |
| 19:33.54 | sheldonh | annma: i'm using the kde-live portage overlay |
| 19:34.05 | annma | oh god |
| 19:34.08 | annma | well then |
| 19:34.14 | sheldonh | annma: but i've used svn directly to confirm that nothing's subtracted or added |
| 19:34.29 | annma | we'll see from direct svn |
| 19:34.39 | annma | I am running make -f and all |
| 19:35.00 | annma | but i did a clean install very recently and it built |
| 19:35.08 | annma | so i would be surprised if it did not now |
| 19:35.13 | sheldonh | annma: where a clean install included a distclean? |
| 19:35.22 | annma | a NEW install |
| 19:35.33 | annma | i reinstalled all my linux |
| 19:35.47 | annma | and I rebuilt all my kde on new partitions |
| 19:35.52 | sheldonh | annma: and you're confident that it's not picking it up from your installed includes directories? ah, that'd do it :) |
| 19:35.59 | annma | so it was a very distclean install |
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| 19:36.10 | annma | i am confident |
| 19:36.18 | annma | it cannot pick anything |
| 19:36.31 | annma | sheldonh: furthermore i install my kde as my user |
| 19:36.43 | annma | and i don't have kde from my distro |
| 19:37.24 | annma | it cannot pick anythiong elsewhere |
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| 19:39.48 | annma | it's finished, it built |
| 19:40.13 | sheldonh | annma: so it's got to be a problem with the kde-live ebuild. i've filed a bug report, thanks |
| 19:40.29 | annma | yes as i use automake as you do |
| 19:40.50 | annma | i should have piped the output to see how it is generated |
| 19:42.09 | sheldonh | annma: oh well, you've been very helpful already, thanks |
| 19:42.31 | annma | yu can try getting arts directly from svn |
| 19:42.38 | annma | as it's small |
| 19:42.52 | annma | would be quickly tested |
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| 19:43.10 | sheldonh | annma: i've got it. my whole angle is having working ebuilds, not criticising the kde build |
| 19:43.21 | annma | just so you are sure |
| 19:43.43 | annma | it is possible svn breaks, sheldonh |
| 19:43.48 | pm | HAPPY DOUGHNUT EVERYBODY |
| 19:43.52 | annma | but in a branch it cannot last for days |
| 19:44.06 | sheldonh | annma: makes sense |
| 19:44.12 | annma | as there are no new features |
| 19:44.24 | annma | even in kde4 it is quite fixed quickly |
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| 19:45.44 | annma | lol |
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| 19:50.26 | blackvd | how come it wont let me remove icons in the control panel? |
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| 19:51.52 | blackvd | the pnly one it'll let me remove is noia-warm |
| 19:51.55 | blackvd | *only |
| 19:52.07 | annma | you mean icon sets? |
| 19:52.16 | blackvd | yeah |
| 19:52.52 | blackvd | i have two of the same noias installed |
| 19:53.43 | blackvd | i untared it to change the kmenu.png then retared it and installed it again hoping that would change it |
| 19:53.57 | blackvd | but it didnt for some reason |
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| 20:03.38 | xris | I'm wondering if kde has a feature like gnome that highlights the window border when using alt-tab.. Much more useful than just the window list. |
| 20:03.55 | xris | nothing pops out at me when looking through the settings. |
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| 20:06.01 | lauri | what happens if you turn off 'show window list while switching windows' |
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| 20:06.24 | Sho_ | lauri: The universe comes apart at its seams and explodes. |
| 20:06.26 | lauri | oh.. it raises the window |
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| 20:07.13 | lauri | well, it focuses the window, I have raise on focus set, you should try it |
| 20:07.29 | lauri | actually, no I don't, I have focus under mouse, click to raise |
| 20:07.34 | lauri | heh |
| 20:08.02 | lauri | so, unchecking that raises the window (you might try komposé, or just learn to love the window list, I do, I like the middle click on the desktop one too) |
| 20:08.56 | xris | yeah, not so useful to me... |
| 20:08.59 | benJIman|tov | the compiz expose ripoff is much nicer than kompose :) |
| 20:09.09 | xris | kompose is way too slow |
| 20:09.25 | benJIman|tov | compiz alt+tab also fades out the windows that arn't selected |
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| 20:09.27 | xris | and the window list appears on whichever screen my mouse is on, which is not where I'm looking... plus, too many windows have the same name |
| 20:09.41 | xris | compiz? will have to look for it. |
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| 20:10.49 | xris | oh, uses composite. that's too slow for me (I have a f'd up intel confidential proc that has speed issues) |
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| 20:11.57 | benJIman|tov | uses Xgl, which reportedly works well with some intel chipsets |
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| 20:12.46 | xris | no. it's the inability of this processor to do certain things... even 2d X on this 3.4Ghz machine is a problem. |
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| 20:13.17 | xris | it's a development processor... pentium4-M (which does not exist -- released was either p4 or p-M) |
| 20:13.43 | xris | anyway, I just want normal alt-tab, but drawing window borders. Heard that kde could do it, so I thought I'd check around before submitting a feature request. |
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| 20:15.22 | Russel-Athletic | hiho |
| 20:15.46 | Russel-Athletic | i want to make a script, that looks at kteatime teename and prints it in konversation |
| 20:15.52 | Russel-Athletic | anybody know how to do it? |
| 20:17.24 | PhilRod | if it's possible, you'll be able to do it with dcop |
| 20:17.26 | lauri | dcop |
| 20:17.33 | PhilRod | there're some dcop tutorials: |
| 20:17.34 | PhilRod | ~dcoptut |
| 20:17.36 | apt | hmm... dcoptut is http://www.linux-magazine.com/issue/36/KDE_Scripting_DCOP.pdf |
| 20:17.42 | PhilRod | ~dcop |
| 20:17.43 | apt | well, dcop is Desktop COmmunication Protocol -- Faster, nicer, and cooler than you'd ever want! |
| 20:18.01 | PhilRod | there's something in the user guide too. See section "scripting the desktop": |
| 20:18.03 | PhilRod | ~ug |
| 20:18.04 | apt | i heard ug is http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/userguide/ |
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| 20:20.11 | Russel-Athletic | seems to me, that kteatimer has no such dcop option |
| 20:20.25 | Russel-Athletic | this is a feature lack! hang the kteatime developer! :) |
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| 20:21.03 | Ash-Fox | What is the library KDE uses for resolving hostnames? |
| 20:21.37 | Cicciux | quick question: how long does it take to compile khotkeys-3.5.0? |
| 20:22.10 | Ash-Fox | Cicciux, wouldn't that depend entirely on your hardware and system setup? |
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| 20:25.38 | Cicciux | Ash-Fox yeah, I know... it was out of frustration that I asked that... :P |
| 20:26.17 | Russel-Athletic | somebody a howto for implementing dcop in an existing programm? |
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| 20:27.54 | pinotree | Russel-Athletic: developer.kde.org |
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| 20:29.32 | Ash-Fox | This really annoys me that mandriva doesn't have kmud |
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| 20:36.31 | restless_coder | After upgrading to KDE 3.5, the Konsole menu option Settings->Font->Small (and other sizes) is gone. The font I used before was only selectable this way, and not from the Font Select dialog (it was smaller than Bitstream Vera Sans 8 but larger than 7). Anyone have any idea how to fix this? |
| 20:36.42 | bipolar | can anyone tell me how to refresh the preview icons in konq? |
| 20:37.01 | bipolar | I'm looking at images on my digital camera and the icons are from the old files. |
| 20:37.18 | PhilRod | F5? |
| 20:37.31 | Fri13 | bipolar: what does ctrl+F5 (usually with browser it means it force refresh) |
| 20:38.57 | bipolar | Fri13, nothing at all |
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| 20:42.43 | bipolar | no combo that involves reload seems to do it. |
| 20:42.48 | bipolar | any other ideas? |
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| 20:45.04 | fredrikh | bipolar: you may need to delete a cache |
| 20:45.51 | bipolar | hmmm.... sounds like a enhancement request is in order. |
| 20:46.15 | fredrikh | bipolar: you should file a bug report about this problem |
| 20:47.55 | fredrikh | bipolar: i'm not familiar with how konq handles the caches, but it should check if the file was modified after the cache was created |
| 20:48.02 | fredrikh | IMO |
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| 20:48.27 | Diavolo | hi |
| 20:48.31 | Diavolo | is metabar included in kdeaddons? |
| 20:48.44 | Diavolo | gentoo returns a message that metabar is blocking kdeaddons |
| 20:49.40 | lauri | when it comes to what is included in kdeanything, on gentoo, you will have to ask #gentoo |
| 20:49.45 | restless_coder | bipolar: do you have a ~/.thumbnails? Mine are there. |
| 20:50.09 | lauri | in KDE sources, it is part of kdeaddons however |
| 20:50.11 | pinotree | Diavolo: yes, from kde 3.5 |
| 20:50.44 | lauri | pinotree: if you've ever seen what gentoo calls kdebase, you'd be very careful answering that one :) |
| 20:50.46 | Diavolo | pinotree: hm, yesterday i removed the metabar package and after that, i could not select the metabar in konqueror |
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| 20:51.26 | pinotree | Diavolo: well, if you remove a thing it's obvious that you can not select it anymore... |
| 20:51.40 | Diavolo | pinotree: kdeaddons is still installed :) |
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| 20:52.05 | pinotree | Diavolo: i don't know how the mata-packages work in gentoo, so i can't help you |
| 20:52.15 | Diavolo | hm |
| 20:52.18 | pinotree | Diavolo: as lauri said, you should ask that in #gentoo |
| 20:52.19 | Diavolo | i will re-emerge kdeaddons |
| 20:52.21 | Diavolo | ok |
| 20:52.23 | Diavolo | thanx |
| 20:52.33 | PhilRod | there's a #gentoo-kde too |
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| 20:57.45 | pinotree | oups |
| 20:57.51 | pinotree | wrong focus window :D |
| 20:58.21 | PhilRod | hitting Ctrl+Q instead of Ctrl+Tab is my favourite |
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| 21:05.15 | TheReverant | hey people |
| 21:05.22 | TheReverant | is there a way to disable kicker? |
| 21:05.33 | annma | disable? as in remove? |
| 21:05.37 | TheReverant | so that it wont be there anymore |
| 21:05.46 | TheReverant | yea, not entirely from the hd, just from desktop |
| 21:05.53 | annma | dcop kicker kicker quit |
| 21:06.12 | TheReverant | ho well, when i reboot it will be there again though with that command, no? |
| 21:06.25 | annma | no this does not work |
| 21:06.42 | TheReverant | huh? |
| 21:07.00 | PhilRod | remove it from $KDEDIR/bin/startkde |
| 21:07.13 | PhilRod | hm, maybe it's not there |
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| 21:07.39 | TheReverant | chmod -x $(which kicker) |
| 21:07.42 | annma | ah my call worked |
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| 21:07.53 | TheReverant | works, but is nnot a reall smooth soultion |
| 21:07.57 | annma | so add that in a script at start TheReverant |
| 21:07.58 | TheReverant | my command |
| 21:08.31 | TheReverant | annma: no that will make kicker start and that script will end it, that sucks, will make boot of kde need a bit longer :P |
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| 21:08.45 | TheReverant | why isnt there a checkbox for thta in kde like for everything |
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| 21:09.56 | restless_coder | Heh, I figured out my konsole font problem. Hardcoding 7.5 for the size in konsolerc's defaultfont puts it back the way it was. I guess I should file a feature request asking for fractional fonts in KDE 3.5's font chooser dialog. |
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| 21:10.36 | PhilRod | TheReverant: KDE is an integrated desktop, so there aren't options to pull bits of it out |
| 21:10.43 | PhilRod | it's a design decision |
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| 21:12.07 | NoZdageek | hi |
| 21:12.08 | annma | TheReverant: kde without kicker is like a good wine without any glass |
| 21:12.18 | TheReverant | well, people tend to have reasons for wanting kicker to be gone :) |
| 21:12.26 | TheReverant | it's a design decision |
| 21:12.33 | PhilRod | TheReverant: you can run KDE apps under any WM you like, so if you don't like kicker, you can run your KDE apps in blackbox, or xfce or whatever you like |
| 21:12.39 | PhilRod | ? |
| 21:12.41 | TheReverant | i got an alternative taskbar which id liek to use |
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| 21:13.44 | PhilRod | ah, you just need to remove $KDEDIR/share/autostart/panel.desktop |
| 21:13.54 | NoZdageek | can anyone tell me if it is possible to disable the automatic window opening when a cd or usb key is inserted? |
| 21:14.01 | TheReverant | PhilRod: thanks :) |
| 21:14.16 | PhilRod | which you'd kinda expect the install program for your alternative taskbar to do |
| 21:14.17 | Russel-Athletic | NoZdageek: i think so |
| 21:14.33 | annma | people always want things they can't have, TheReverant |
| 21:14.35 | NoZdageek | and how? :P |
| 21:14.41 | annma | we cannot make everythign configurable |
| 21:14.44 | Russel-Athletic | somewhere under kdethings->media |
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| 21:15.29 | NoZdageek | kdethings???? i got nothing called like that |
| 21:15.41 | Russel-Athletic | kcontrol -> devices (or so) -> storage medias |
| 21:16.11 | Russel-Athletic | habe other language than englisch so these are not the exact words |
| 21:16.47 | NoZdageek | i already searched all things in kcontrol and found nothing |
| 21:16.49 | NoZdageek | :( |
| 21:17.19 | raoel | search for storage media? |
| 21:17.35 | restless_coder | NoZdageek: Peripherals->Storage Media? |
| 21:17.50 | NoZdageek | nope |
| 21:17.56 | NoZdageek | it's not present :( |
| 21:18.11 | restless_coder | NoZdageek: Which version of KDE are you running? |
| 21:18.12 | NoZdageek | seems not good |
| 21:18.22 | NoZdageek | 3.4.3 |
| 21:18.32 | Russel-Athletic | apropos thanks for this dialog, i really like it better than in windows because it is faster and gets useful actions automatically (like if you install kaudiocreator there is a menupoint for it) |
| 21:18.59 | Russel-Athletic | NoZdageek: i think you need 3.5 |
| 21:19.13 | Russel-Athletic | (don't know how anybody can live with kde <3.5) |
| 21:20.29 | NoZdageek | not preswent in kubuntu repository |
| 21:20.33 | NoZdageek | :( |
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| 21:21.40 | Russel-Athletic | backports are there |
| 21:21.41 | Russel-Athletic | wait a minuite |
| 21:21.41 | Russel-Athletic | NoZdageek: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351 breezy main |
| 21:22.02 | Russel-Athletic | i hope you know what to do with this url |
| 21:22.12 | NoZdageek | yep |
| 21:22.12 | NoZdageek | ;) |
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| 21:23.51 | natyves2 | see you |
| 21:24.59 | NoZdageek | i'll try to update |
| 21:25.06 | NoZdageek | thx all |
| 21:28.29 | pinotree | PhilRod: could i annoy you for 5 minutes? |
| 21:31.34 | xris | Asking again now that there seem to be more people active.... I'm wondering if kde has a feature like gnome that highlights the window border when using alt-tab.. Much more useful than just the window list. |
| 21:35.18 | PhilRod | pinotree: sure |
| 21:35.32 | pinotree | PhilRod: do you have kig? |
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| 21:35.44 | PhilRod | yes |
| 21:36.10 | pinotree | could you open it, and construct a line? |
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| 21:36.27 | PhilRod | done |
| 21:36.36 | pinotree | riught click on the point |
| 21:36.39 | pinotree | -u |
| 21:37.03 | pinotree | so, size would be pen width? |
| 21:37.14 | pinotree | even for eg the line? |
| 21:37.34 | Peper | i use plain clock, with date and seconds set to be displayed, but date is not shown. known prob? |
| 21:38.30 | PhilRod | pinotree: I think so |
| 21:38.48 | pinotree | wow, an unqie word is even better :D |
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| 21:39.34 | pinotree | thanks again PhilRod :) |
| 21:40.38 | Peper | now i have timezone displayed next to clock. [ hh:mm:ss timezone ] |
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| 21:40.54 | Peper | but no date ;/ |
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| 21:43.00 | Peper | removing clock and adding it again solved the prob -> there is some bug in clock applet |
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| 21:43.05 | Peper | but nvm ;] |
| 21:44.35 | brad_mssw | I'm writing a cross-platform installation utility, and trying to come up with a way to add program links to the program menu in kde ... anyone have a reference how to do this? |
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| 21:50.26 | aseigo | brad_mssw: yes, it's part of the fd.o menu spec.. however, there was also a nice thread on it on the xdg-list this month |
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| 21:50.43 | aseigo | brad_mssw: (kde, gnome, xfce and others use this same spec, btw) |
| 21:51.01 | brad_mssw | aseigo, thanks, I'll go hunting for that |
| 21:51.21 | Russel-Athletic | mhhh can i somehow turn all notifications off if i play a movie in kaffeine and after that turn it all on again like they where before it? |
| 21:51.37 | aseigo | brad_mssw: i *think* it was this one http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xdg/2006-February/007685.html |
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| 21:52.35 | brad_mssw | aseigo: heh, was just looking at that very message :) |
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| 21:54.37 | flogiston | Katapult <3 |
| 21:56.59 | litb | Russel-Athletic: could u perhaps do something special with KHotkeys ? |
| 21:57.26 | Russel-Athletic | ? |
| 21:57.37 | litb | create a rule |
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| 21:57.45 | Russel-Athletic | mhhhh look into it |
| 21:57.53 | litb | which set windows behind all others while kaffeine is running |
| 21:58.05 | litb | except kaffeines' windows |
| 21:58.09 | litb | could maybe work |
| 22:00.23 | Russel-Athletic | k will try it |
| 22:00.31 | litb | yeah, i hate them while running gxine too |
| 22:00.42 | litb | kopete notifications all the time... |
| 22:01.10 | litb | hiding some hot stuff.... ^^ |
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| 22:02.09 | Russel-Athletic | mhhh problem is: if i want the window in background i can't do it |
| 22:02.34 | litb | have you investigated the dcop calls? |
| 22:02.54 | Russel-Athletic | where should i look? |
| 22:03.22 | Russel-Athletic | knotify has no such dcop option |
| 22:03.33 | litb | knotify? |
| 22:03.37 | litb | hmm... |
| 22:03.49 | litb | iot is for sound and info/error messages i thought |
| 22:04.01 | litb | and logging stuff... |
| 22:04.21 | Russel-Athletic | iot? have no sich thing in kdcop |
| 22:04.44 | litb | you didn't mean the notify windows kopete / amarok / konvi displays? |
| 22:04.54 | litb | *it |
| 22:04.54 | Russel-Athletic | i mean them |
| 22:04.58 | litb | :) |
| 22:05.10 | litb | then that doesn't belong to knotify i think |
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| 22:05.37 | Russel-Athletic | to the apps themselves? |
| 22:05.49 | litb | it handles things like you can set under "Systemmessages" |
| 22:06.07 | litb | iiar |
| 22:06.17 | litb | yes |
| 22:06.26 | Russel-Athletic | örks |
| 22:06.43 | litb | youre using a german qwertz? |
| 22:06.58 | Russel-Athletic | jep |
| 22:07.08 | flogiston | öö |
| 22:07.13 | litb | come to kde.de |
| 22:07.17 | litb | and let talk |
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| 22:09.11 | TheReverant | the kcontrol lóinly lets me set screen resolution up to 1024x768 while my screen supports 1280x1024, how can i change that? |
| 22:09.42 | annma | by setting your xorg.conf corrrectly, TheReverant |
| 22:09.57 | TheReverant | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:10.03 | annma | your distro might have a Display tool? |
| 22:10.06 | TheReverant | wait, wrong chan |
| 22:10.14 | TheReverant | huh display tool? |
| 22:10.21 | annma | what distro? |
| 22:10.25 | annma | Mandriva has one |
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| 22:10.32 | TheReverant | im working on a kanotix system atm |
| 22:10.57 | annma | no idea abot how setting X works on kanotix, ask in #kanotix |
| 22:11.06 | annma | KDE only gets what X has |
| 22:11.21 | annma | KDE cannot know more about your hardware |
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| 22:17.06 | Estes2 | Hi everyone, i enabled lisa, have the daemon that runs but i can't see where to "browse" the network.... anyone please ? |
| 22:17.31 | Gentle | can I have an universal sidebar which is only on one desktop? |
| 22:19.51 | TheReverant | CY@LL |
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| 22:23.31 | Estes2 | like, in konqueror, when i click the network tab, i get nothing besides the standard "FTP archives" and "websites" |
| 22:27.23 | luksan | Estes2: lan:/ |
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| 22:27.47 | luksan | Estes2: that's one way |
| 22:29.23 | litb | how is that thing called which can shrink the text by adding ... in its mid ? |
| 22:29.45 | litb | like the download progress window of konqueror? |
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| 22:29.48 | Estes2 | luksan, ok, thanks, good, it works |
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| 22:30.01 | Estes2 | isn't there a more GUI way, aka a button somewhere ? |
| 22:30.23 | litb | i really miss the option to select the text and be able to copy it |
| 22:30.30 | litb | and get the expanded one |
| 22:30.36 | litb | into the clipboard |
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| 22:33.15 | Sho_ | litb: KSqueezedLabel |
| 22:33.26 | litb | yes, that one |
| 22:33.50 | litb | can't we just override the oppropriate method? |
| 22:33.58 | litb | it would really be useful |
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| 22:34.34 | litb | unfortunately i'm not that experienced with kde/qt :( |
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| 22:37.49 | Billthe4th | can anyone explin the arguements to the DCOP call void ksmserver.ksmserver.logout(int,int,int) please? |
| 22:37.55 | Billthe4th | testing it is very time consuming |
| 22:38.02 | Billthe4th | all i want to do is shutdown |
| 22:40.48 | Sho_ | Billthe4th: Apparently they relate to the three Shutdown* enums here: http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/3.5-api/kdelibs-apidocs/kdecore/html/classKApplication.html |
| 22:41.14 | Sho_ | 1 2 2 I'd say |
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| 22:42.22 | fernando | is there an upgrade for kde 3.5? |
| 22:42.34 | Sho_ | fernando: Yes, KDE 3.5.1 |
| 22:43.06 | fernando | is it better than 5.0, Sho? |
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| 22:43.12 | Sho_ | fernando: yup |
| 22:43.26 | Sho_ | fernando: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5to3_5_1.php |
| 22:43.30 | Billthe4th | thankyou kindly Sho_ |
| 22:43.42 | Billthe4th | im gonna go with a 022 |
| 22:44.16 | Sho_ | Billthe4th: Yeah, I misread the API ... ConfirmYes probably brings up the confirm box rather than assume Yes ;) |
| 22:44.26 | Billthe4th | yep |
| 22:44.26 | Sho_ | So 022 should be the way to go |
| 22:44.42 | Billthe4th | cheers |
| 22:45.12 | Sho_ | :) |
| 22:45.21 | Sho_ | sleep tight |
| 22:46.46 | EvilGuru | why does any media that I want to mount though konqueror need to be in /etc/fstab |
| 22:47.08 | fernando | Are you a japanese guy, Sho? |
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| 22:47.47 | Sho_ | fernando: No, I'm German. Why? |
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| 22:49.02 | EvilGuru | as it is kinda hard with usb pen drives |
| 22:50.44 | fernando | Dankbarkeit, Sho! |
| 22:50.56 | Sho_ | fernando: *g* My pleasure :) |
| 22:51.33 | kibab | I'm trying to get my keyboard mapping working a little more reasonably by default... is there a particular keyboard layout variant that I should use? (I'm using dvorak, basic variant right now). |
| 22:53.11 | kibab | Also... Does the compose key have any use if I don't type anything other than english? (with no accents, etc.?) |
| 22:53.14 | fernando | I have just started downloading kde 3.5.1. I hope it will be much better than 3.5.0, Sho. Bye! |
| 22:53.35 | Sho_ | bye fernando |
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| 22:56.49 | visik7 | will arts be replaced with something that doesn't sucks in kde 4 ? |
| 22:56.55 | visik7 | are there plan for that ? |
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| 22:58.34 | pinotree | ~arts-kde4 |
| 22:58.35 | apt | arts is unmaintained, for KDE 4 (and not before) there will probably be a backend independent architecture allowing you to choose what sound engine (or none) to use via an abstracted API, if you want to know more, you should read the 5 or 6 hundred post long thread on the kde-multimedia mailing list archives |
| 22:58.41 | pinotree | visik7: ^^^ |
| 22:59.09 | visik7 | :) ok |
| 22:59.11 | visik7 | thanks |
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| 23:18.27 | FallonDark | Hello all |
| 23:18.46 | SimAtWork | hello |
| 23:19.52 | FallonDark | Can anyone tell me where to find info regarding kdesu? |
| 23:20.21 | aseigo | FallonDark: what kind of info? |
| 23:21.53 | FallonDark | I'd like to figure out a way to write a script which enables dmix through /etc/asound.rc at some times but moves asound.rc to asoundrc.bak at other times without making asound.rc accessible to non-root users. |
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| 23:22.30 | FallonDark | Some apps don't run correctly when using dmix, so I'd like to make certain apps bypass it on startup for the duration of the app |
| 23:22.53 | FallonDark | I think kdesu can so that, but I'm not sure |
| 23:23.03 | FallonDark | s/so/do |
| 23:26.45 | FallonDark | Writing the script is simple enough, but I have the choice of either making asound.rc writable by any user, or only allowing programs run as root to run the script :/ |
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| 23:40.00 | sredna | Hm, konqueror surely takes it's time uploading files through html forms... |
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| 23:40.48 | sredna | It could really make use of my 128kbs upload speed and get it over with... |
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| 23:47.21 | golly | in Kdialog, how do I put the current date/time into the --msgbox output?? |
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| 23:55.54 | Paleo | golly kdialog --msgbox "`date`" |
| 23:57.48 | golly | Paleo : AH the mystery is solved...thanks |
| 23:58.22 | Paleo | eheh, np. You can insert any command between `` |
| 23:59.06 | golly | Paleo: yeah I got that bit....it was the ` ` thingys that I missed |
| 23:59.49 | Paleo | okay =) |
