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| 00:09.37 | vicarious | I was wondering, would a person have to know c coding in order to add simple text to the top of window manager (Kwin)? |
| 00:09.57 | joedj | vicarious: no, usually you can do it from the command-line using dcop |
| 00:11.33 | joedj | vicarious: for example dcop kmail 'kontact-mainwindow#1' setCaption lalala |
| 00:11.44 | vicarious | thank you, thinking of putting a distro online for use for free using NX. (going to try to auction off window theme for sponsorship (need bandwidth $$$) |
| 00:11.59 | joedj | vicarious: hrm, we might be talking about something different - i'm talking about changing a window's title |
| 00:12.50 | joedj | going to ask my question again (don't hate me) then go and get a coffee, and hopefully someone will have a solution for me :) |
| 00:13.19 | joedj | attempting to get a borderless window, i set konsole's window type to dock. now konsole can't get the focus at all, so i can't change it back by accessing the Alt+F3 window menu or anything. how can i use konsole again? i have about 10 konsole windows open that i was actively working in, so it would be nice to fix this without reinstalling the OS ;-) |
| 00:13.33 | vicarious | I need to add it to the topside graphic. Can i just GIMP the graphic file, and leave all else the same |
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| 00:13.47 | joedj | vicarious: yes |
| 00:13.55 | vicarious | great |
| 00:14.58 | vicarious | joedj I am not sure what distro you are running but in Mandrake or other RH variant I think, you can ctr+alt+F1 |
| 00:15.09 | joedj | vicarious: kubuntu |
| 00:15.31 | joedj | i can ctrl+alt+f1 to get back to a virtual console, but that doesn't help me make konsole work again |
| 00:15.31 | vicarious | I am not sure about deb var |
| 00:15.46 | vicarious | ok, sorry, mistook your question |
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| 00:16.39 | mick_home | hi everyone, i'd like to know how i can change the k menu icon |
| 00:16.54 | mick_home | i asked in #suse and the best that i got was that it was hardcoded to "kmenu.png" |
| 00:17.21 | mick_home | i'm using 3.4 btw |
| 00:17.42 | visik7 | change or create a new theme |
| 00:18.33 | mick_home | thats what i thought |
| 00:18.37 | vicarious | will Konsole undock if you kill it? |
| 00:18.38 | mick_home | there is no "edit theme"? |
| 00:19.51 | mick_home | I see "customize your theme" and an icon button |
| 00:19.59 | mick_home | but it doesn't respond to any clicks |
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| 00:21.11 | vicarious | and allow you to restart using default theme? |
| 00:21.36 | chmeee | is there a way to submit a problematic webpage to the konqueror dev team? |
| 00:21.40 | vicarious | just a thought, new to kde, learning it for its kiosking features |
| 00:21.45 | mick_home | Xlib errors... oh god no |
| 00:21.45 | chmeee | tv.yahoo.com screws up with formatting sometimes |
| 00:22.11 | mick_home | yahoo has a bunch of things that mess up on non-IE browsers |
| 00:22.22 | mick_home | like some ActiveX player in their music section |
| 00:22.30 | mick_home | and nothing shows (in FF) |
| 00:23.13 | mick_home | damn... i'm connected via vnc |
| 00:23.28 | mick_home | and i get failed to get list of devices |
| 00:23.50 | mick_home | XInputExtention is missing is what it is telling me |
| 00:24.06 | chmeee | yeah, their audio section sucks. But the tv section sometimes displays properly, sometimes doesn't. I can normally 'fix' it by selecting a show, then going back to the listings |
| 00:25.20 | vicarious | email the webpage adninistrator and ask them to consider Konqeror compatibilty check on their pages. remember the "optimized for IE" logos? It is the same concept, only grassroots. |
| 00:25.31 | mick_home | chmeee: it looks messed up on FF too |
| 00:25.38 | chmeee | mick_home: ah ok |
| 00:25.42 | mick_home | chmeee: contact the yahoo people, not konquerer |
| 00:26.00 | mick_home | you can't blame them since yahoo tends to suck |
| 00:26.16 | chmeee | not blaming them at all |
| 00:26.17 | mick_home | they have the smartest open source developers there... but some of their teams are just retarded |
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| 00:26.32 | mick_home | chmeee: you get what i'm saying |
| 00:26.37 | chmeee | yeah |
| 00:26.40 | mick_home | i didn't mean "blame" perse |
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| 00:27.26 | chmeee | I get what you're saying |
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| 00:29.27 | joedj | vicarious: nope. it changed all my existing konsole windows, too |
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| 00:33.15 | joedj | for anyone wondering, it looks like that stuff is in ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrulesrc, so if you ever get screwed like me... ;) |
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| 00:35.58 | vicarious | I found this, it might help you to change your settings back to normal, and then make borderless http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/02/msg00189.html you prob know more than me, but I just came across this to try to be helpful |
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| 00:36.22 | mick_home | http://docs.yahoo.com/info/support/contacts/bugs.html |
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| 00:36.38 | mick_home | chmeee: ^^^ |
| 00:36.52 | mick_home | their html isn't valid |
| 00:42.18 | mick_home | i complained - feel free to do the same |
| 00:42.24 | chmeee | just did |
| 00:42.44 | chmeee | "We appreciate your interest in keeping Yahoo! bug free." <-- 60% BS |
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| 00:59.12 | Andares | Hey. |
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| 01:02.29 | thiago | no |
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| 01:07.44 | _poison | anybody ? I've configured my synaptics touchpad in xorg.conf. it works in xfce and fluxbox. It also works while KDE starts up ... but as soon as KDE statup is finished my cursor wont move a pixel. Running synclient -m then shows that the touchpad is working. Has anybody got an idea what part/service/deamon of KDE could interfere with the synaptics touchpad ? |
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| 01:09.11 | thiago | don't run ksynaptics |
| 01:09.30 | _poison | thiago: ksynaptics ? |
| 01:09.38 | thiago | yes |
| 01:09.39 | _poison | I don't have that installed ... |
| 01:09.48 | thiago | you must have |
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| 01:09.58 | thiago | it's the only thing that can mess up the synaptics touchpad |
| 01:10.05 | frb-work | -khtml-opacity doesn't seem to be doing anything in konq 3.5 |
| 01:10.07 | thiago | and it generally does if you don't have the exact version required |
| 01:10.12 | _poison | do you mean the kcm module from kde 3.5 ? |
| 01:10.17 | thiago | frb-work: did that work? |
| 01:10.20 | thiago | _poison: yes |
| 01:10.33 | _poison | thiago: uhm .... but it's part of kde ? |
| 01:10.43 | thiago | _poison: yes |
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| 01:10.53 | frb-work | thiago: I don't know, I found it on google |
| 01:11.05 | thiago | frb-work: hmm |
| 01:11.08 | _poison | thiago: then how do I elimintate a kcm module ? |
| 01:11.21 | thiago | checking the parser |
| 01:11.27 | thiago | _poison: uninstall it |
| 01:11.46 | _poison | thiago: uninstall what. the kdeadmin package ? |
| 01:12.08 | frb-work | I have... opacity: 0.5; filter: opacity(0.5); -moz-opacity: 0.5; -khtml-opacity: 0.5; |
| 01:12.32 | thiago | frb-work: it's not in the parser |
| 01:12.36 | thiago | frb-work: it'll not work |
| 01:12.43 | thiago | frb-work: however, "opacity" is there |
| 01:13.10 | thiago | _poison: uninstall the ksynaptics module |
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| 01:14.14 | _poison | thiago: hmmm ... I thought I was sure I didn't install it ... eventually I installed it from source, didn't build a package and forgot about it. thank you very much for you help =) |
| 01:16.04 | frb-work | thiago: it's not working |
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| 01:16.59 | _poison | thiago: works now =D |
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| 01:19.17 | thiago | frb-work: maybe it's a Safari feature |
| 01:20.19 | _poison | bye all :) |
| 01:21.14 | p-f | Is there a way to reserve a 1px border at the bottom and right edge of the screen which would be reserved and non-coverable? (this way I would always have access to the desktop for quick switching with the mousewheel and the such) |
| 01:21.37 | vicarious | does anybody know where I would find the graphics files for the window managers top bar in mandrake 10.0 |
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| 01:25.33 | frb-work | thiago: I know -khtml-opacity is in webkit |
| 01:29.28 | thiago | that's why |
| 01:29.32 | thiago | it's not in Konqueror |
| 01:31.52 | frb-work | should I file a bug? |
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| 01:32.54 | jcohen | how does kde have multi-color mouse cursors when x11 has only room for 2 colors? |
| 01:33.47 | thiago | jcohen: your premise is faulty |
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| 01:34.19 | jcohen | how so? When I use to right apps using the xlib I could only specify 2 colors. Has that changed? |
| 01:34.35 | jcohen | for the x11 mouse cursor that is |
| 01:37.13 | thiago | that has changed |
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| 01:37.40 | jcohen | hmm |
| 01:37.41 | jcohen | ok |
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| 01:39.44 | philone | hey, quick question, is there a way to hide a desktop so that the tab isn't visible? |
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| 01:41.08 | mebsd | is there superkaramba in 3.4? |
| 01:41.35 | annma | you have toinstall it, mebsd |
| 01:41.44 | annma | philone: the tab where? |
| 01:41.54 | philone | the taskbar tabs |
| 01:42.05 | philone | I'd like to have a window running but not have a visible tab |
| 01:42.18 | mebsd | luckily i have kde3.5 |
| 01:42.25 | mebsd | so it's included |
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| 01:42.39 | annma | philone: i don't think it's possible |
| 01:42.48 | philone | ah |
| 01:42.49 | annma | i don't see such an option |
| 01:42.56 | vicarious | http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/02/msg00189.html |
| 01:42.57 | philone | that'd explain why I'm not finding one |
| 01:43.11 | vicarious | maybe? |
| 01:43.27 | vicarious | borderless window? |
| 01:43.32 | philone | no no |
| 01:43.42 | philone | just remove the tab from the task bar all together |
| 01:43.49 | philone | so it's only accessible via alt+tab |
| 01:44.11 | philone | I was kind of hoping there was a way to make multiple desktops use their own tabs... but that doesn't seem possible |
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| 01:44.30 | mebsd | what does that mean, kde4 set to make device interaction solid |
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| 01:44.56 | _imy | mebsd: think autoplay |
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| 01:45.16 | annma | mebsd: don't worry about it yt if you don't understad it |
| 01:46.31 | mebsd | is it like insert a cdrom, it runs something in cd |
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| 01:46.53 | JohnFlux | mebsd: yeah that sort of thing |
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| 01:47.19 | JohnFlux | mebsd: well, more like play the dvd, play the music cd, run cd burning software for blank cd etc |
| 01:47.32 | p-f | and install the drm, etc. |
| 01:47.39 | JohnFlux | :) |
| 01:49.14 | ijwyn | anyone can tell me what this message means -- I see it everytime I start konqueror from a console: "WARNING: DCOPReply<>: cast to 'QCString' error" |
| 01:49.47 | JohnFlux | ijwyn: don't worry about it |
| 01:49.59 | enos | hi, i can't seem to get thumbnails for media (avi, etc) to work in konqueror since i reinstalled, they play fine and everything just no thumbnails .. any ideas? |
| 01:50.04 | JohnFlux | ijwyn: it means that a coder made a trivial error somewhere |
| 01:50.14 | ijwyn | ok, it's just that konq has been crashing on me a lot, so I was wondering if this was related |
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| 01:50.54 | enos | i have 'file' and 'media' checked in konq prefs .. |
| 01:51.10 | JohnFlux | enos: View->preview they are checked there> |
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| 01:51.45 | enos | thats another thing, i'm not sure it even shows an option in view>preview, do you know what it should be called? |
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| 01:52.22 | enos | i have images and such, but no media or the like |
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| 01:53.07 | enos | only sound is unchecked either way |
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| 01:54.21 | JohnFlux | enos: hmm |
| 01:54.31 | JohnFlux | enos: do you have spare disk space :) |
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| 01:55.08 | enos | yeap got space |
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| 01:59.31 | enos | JohnFlux: do you know what it should be called under view>preview? i have no option there for 'media' |
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| 02:08.04 | gravos | anyone want a salad? i have 3 |
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| 02:09.36 | CVirus | me too :D |
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| 02:11.11 | |Graz-z| | sprite rules |
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| 02:22.50 | mboso | anyone know what the transparent stat info things on the desktop of the screen are called? http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=27500&file1=27500-1.png&file2=27500-2.png&file3=27500-3.png&name=decodesk |
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| 02:24.24 | mark_alec | mboso: could be superkaramba |
| 02:25.25 | mboso | mark_alec: cool, thanks |
| 02:26.13 | mark_alec | mboso: it is included as part of kde 3.5 if you have it |
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| 02:30.03 | mboso | mark_alec: didn't come with my 3.5, strange. i'm installing it now. |
| 02:30.09 | mboso | thanks for the tip |
| 02:31.20 | mboso | is super karamaba a theme manager? |
| 02:31.50 | mark_alec | it is a desklet eyecandy system moniter thingy |
| 02:34.05 | mboso | ah |
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| 02:44.38 | hagayarou | does anyome notice that sometimes Konqueror's rendering box seems to capture all mouse actions, even though they're on the Kicker or other programs, or other parts of Konqueror? |
| 02:44.51 | hagayarou | it seems to think it's in fullscreen mode or something |
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| 02:45.10 | hagayarou | and I have to press a shortcut key which calls another program into focus to fix it |
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| 02:50.48 | Mad_Lappy | Anyone know anything about the process in KDE that creates the ICONs for devices (ie a jumpdrive) when it is plugged in? |
| 02:50.58 | Mad_Lappy | I have all of the sudden lost my flash drive recognition in KDE |
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| 02:53.15 | Woosta | I use kate, but I'd like to change the line-spacing .. does anyone know if that's actually in the kate sources, or if it's inherrited from one of the dependencies? |
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| 02:54.04 | hector | anybody here has xorg 7.0? |
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| 03:06.35 | klasiphyd | the preview option in konquer, is it possible to change where in a video file that it grabs the thumbnail from? |
| 03:07.03 | klasiphyd | like say, 5 secs in |
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| 03:18.24 | benjamindees | you'd probably have to hack the source to do that |
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| 03:30.20 | klasiphyd | .. that would be fine, just dont know what source to find such a thing |
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| 03:46.46 | SMiLeaf | Emily: far from home? |
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| 03:49.31 | reiser | anybody alive? |
| 03:49.37 | SMiLeaf | hardly :/ |
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| 03:50.24 | reiser | why so? |
| 03:50.35 | SMiLeaf | hmm... I need to rebuild my lfs temp system :( |
| 03:50.44 | SMiLeaf | reiser: no clue.. perhaps because it's late. |
| 03:50.59 | reiser | Late means what? |
| 03:51.08 | SMiLeaf | late meaning people are in bed. |
| 03:51.11 | reiser | Discussing about KDE? |
| 03:51.11 | Emily | SMiLeaf: about 3000 miles |
| 03:51.19 | SMiLeaf | Emily: that is quite a ways. |
| 03:51.25 | reiser | 3000 miles to what? |
| 03:51.33 | SMiLeaf | Emily: college? |
| 03:51.45 | Emily | (and lives here for wife-type-reasons) |
| 03:51.54 | SMiLeaf | midwest? what state? |
| 03:52.29 | reiser | No, I'm not |
| 03:52.43 | Emily | same region of the country, then |
| 03:52.50 | reiser | Who is Mr reiser supose to be? |
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| 03:52.53 | Emily | I have some of your potatoes :P Oh, no, that's idaho |
| 03:53.00 | SMiLeaf | x.x; |
| 03:53.01 | Emily | reiser: as in ReiserFS |
| 03:53.18 | reiser | The guy who developed Reiser FS? |
| 03:53.21 | SMiLeaf | yes.. Iowa != Potatos |
| 03:53.33 | Emily | corn, perhaps? I have much corn |
| 03:53.35 | SMiLeaf | Iowa == Corn :D |
| 03:53.39 | reiser | No I'm just like reiser FS |
| 03:54.17 | SMiLeaf | so what sort of wife-type-reasons? getting married to someone in Michigan? |
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| 03:56.01 | reiser | So everybody are from US here? |
| 03:56.18 | SMiLeaf | reiser: nope |
| 03:56.28 | SMiLeaf | lots of europeans here. |
| 03:56.36 | reiser | That's cool |
| 03:56.41 | SMiLeaf | indeed. |
| 03:57.01 | reiser | What part of europe? |
| 03:57.11 | SMiLeaf | wish I could go visit europe :/ |
| 03:57.20 | SMiLeaf | umm.. all parts? |
| 03:57.45 | Emily | (specifically Her Majesty's United Kingdom of Northern Ireland and Great Britain) |
| 03:57.51 | Emily | and SMiLeaf: yep, married someone from here |
| 03:57.56 | SMiLeaf | I'm from europe.. or .. at least my great great great...etc.. grand parents are :D |
| 03:58.46 | SMiLeaf | Emily: awesome :) |
| 03:59.06 | reiser | Right |
| 03:59.17 | Emily | not far from me ;) |
| 03:59.21 | reiser | Chicago |
| 03:59.26 | SMiLeaf | lots of midwest people here then :D |
| 04:00.00 | Emily | well, it's 4am+ for actual Europeans right now |
| 04:00.23 | Emily | SMiLeaf: Doubt it :) |
| 04:00.41 | SMiLeaf | Emily: I've never met anyone online that's from iowa before :) |
| 04:00.48 | reiser | Trolltech.... the QT developers??? |
| 04:01.14 | Emily | reiser: those guys, yes. I worked in Oslo for about a year and a half before movign here, mainly on Qt/Embedded |
| 04:02.03 | reiser | Embedded means something like KDE for mobil? |
| 04:02.26 | thiago | wasn't Embedded being developed in .AU? |
| 04:02.27 | Emily | yeah, It's Qt for a raw Linux framebuffer device ('put this dot of colour here')_ |
| 04:02.46 | Emily | mainly, yep. I spent 3 weeks workign there with Warwick. I was the Oslo embeddded huy |
| 04:02.47 | Emily | guy |
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| 04:03.08 | reiser | I see |
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| 04:03.51 | Emily | (working with warwick in Brisbane at his house, I mean :) I miss company-sponsored air travel) |
| 04:04.28 | SMiLeaf | that would be fun :) |
| 04:05.01 | reiser | So, what is better GNOME or KDE? |
| 04:05.17 | straw | see topic |
| 04:05.19 | SMiLeaf | lol.. you ask that in a kde channel? |
| 04:05.27 | reiser | Why not? |
| 04:05.35 | SMiLeaf | oh yes.. we can't say .. no flame wars :) |
| 04:06.12 | Emily | heh |
| 04:06.14 | Emily | KDE :P |
| 04:06.28 | SMiLeaf | no way.. frame buffers are the best! |
| 04:06.36 | SMiLeaf | hehe |
| 04:06.37 | straw | So, what is better Apples or Oranges? |
| 04:06.59 | Emily | braiiiiiins |
| 04:07.04 | Emily | delicious tasty brains |
| 04:07.06 | SMiLeaf | Oranges.. because I can have Oranges and Orange juice. |
| 04:07.10 | straw | heh :) |
| 04:07.11 | Novell | green apples |
| 04:07.27 | SMiLeaf | Cameo Apples! |
| 04:07.28 | reiser | Of course apples |
| 04:07.56 | reiser | Same way u can have apples and apple juice |
| 04:08.08 | Emily | andand applejack |
| 04:08.10 | SMiLeaf | reiser: I can't have Apple Juice ;) |
| 04:08.11 | Emily | and scumble |
| 04:08.17 | reiser | Why |
| 04:08.47 | SMiLeaf | dunno.. my throat just starts to get really dry.. tenses up.. soar.. think I'm alergic to something in it. |
| 04:08.56 | reiser | How to point to certain nik here? |
| 04:09.11 | SMiLeaf | nik? |
| 04:09.36 | SMiLeaf | point...er.. is this a reference? XD |
| 04:09.47 | reiser | When I wright a message.... how to point it to certain nik? |
| 04:09.55 | SMiLeaf | reiser: like this? |
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| 04:10.02 | reiser | Yes |
| 04:10.10 | SMiLeaf | Mmm.. tab completion =) |
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| 04:10.21 | reiser | I'm trying to klik on nik but it doesn't work |
| 04:10.32 | drcurl | Hi, can someone tell me if there is somehting usefull in kdeaddons? |
| 04:10.38 | SMiLeaf | start typing it out.. and in most irc clients you can hit tab to complete the nick. |
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| 04:10.55 | reiser | drcurl karamba |
| 04:10.57 | Kr0ntab | whats up people? |
| 04:11.04 | drcurl | ok thanks |
| 04:11.07 | Kr0ntab | good evening. |
| 04:11.12 | SMiLeaf | Kr0ntab: the sky! |
| 04:11.20 | Kr0ntab | word.... same here. ; |
| 04:11.44 | SMiLeaf | if that ever wasn't up.. there would be a problem. |
| 04:12.42 | reiser | SMiLeaf: Oooo, I see, didn't think it's like in bash |
| 04:12.56 | SMiLeaf | reiser: ya |
| 04:13.05 | reiser | SMiLeaf: Thank u |
| 04:13.07 | SMiLeaf | reiser: think bash has all the goodies? :P |
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| 04:13.19 | reiser | I guess so |
| 04:13.22 | SMiLeaf | lol |
| 04:13.42 | SMiLeaf | tho I did just make myself a package manager in a bash script using only 56 lines :S |
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| 04:14.32 | drcurl | I tried Ubuntu today, it is a shame to see how gnome has become slower than kde these days... |
| 04:14.50 | Woosta | Soory to repeat, but there seems to be more life now: I use kate, but I'd like to change the line-spacing .. does anyone know if that's actually in the kate sources, or if it's inherrited from one of the dependencies? |
| 04:15.20 | Kr0ntab | I'm having an issue with GnuCash, and was hoping KDE might be able to help out the situation. GnuCash does not remember window positioning or size (i.e. maximization, etc)... and I'm trying to figure out how to get KDE's special window settings/behaviour to maximize the GnuCash window upon opening it. Just kind of curious if anyone's been able to work this out before. |
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| 04:16.56 | reiser | SMiLeaf: So what distro is most popular in europe? |
| 04:17.06 | SMiLeaf | reiser: beats me.. I don't live in europe |
| 04:17.18 | Woosta | make it up then |
| 04:17.19 | reiser | But u're from there |
| 04:17.40 | reiser | SMiLeaf: What u think about US? |
| 04:17.51 | SMiLeaf | reiser: yes.. my great, great, great, great, great, great, grandparents are. |
| 04:17.54 | Kr0ntab | reiser, what distro is most popular in the USA? oh... and by the way... do you know Bob? :-P |
| 04:18.03 | wsjunior | reiser: take a look http://www.itweb.co.za/office/Novell/0503310937.htm |
| 04:18.05 | Kr0ntab | hehe |
| 04:18.15 | reiser | Desktops or production? |
| 04:18.21 | SMiLeaf | Ooo.. I wanna meet bob! |
| 04:19.04 | reiser | Kr0ntab: Popular where, among home users or companies? |
| 04:19.09 | CVirus | how can I make the desktop previewer transparent ? |
| 04:19.22 | Kr0ntab | hehe im just kidding man. no sweat. |
| 04:19.25 | SMiLeaf | CVirus: right click on it and change an option? |
| 04:19.56 | CVirus | SMiLeaf: stupid me :-) |
| 04:20.01 | CVirus | SMiLeaf: Thanks |
| 04:20.13 | SMiLeaf | CVirus: :) |
| 04:20.16 | reiser | Kr0ntab: No I don't know Bob |
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| 04:22.15 | reiser | Nobody can say about distro... may be someone can say about most popular beer around KDE users? |
| 04:23.20 | drcurl | my favorite is Samichlous |
| 04:23.47 | drcurl | 14 % alcool beer :| |
| 04:24.19 | kendrick | goddamnit |
| 04:24.26 | kendrick | cafepress's website keeps crashing konq >:^( |
| 04:24.33 | reiser | drcurl: Never heard about that |
| 04:24.35 | kendrick | it does some pop-up info window that closes itself |
| 04:26.06 | Renkai | black & tan of course |
| 04:26.11 | drcurl | reiser, it tastes a bit like Port Wine |
| 04:26.29 | reiser | I like Port Wine |
| 04:27.29 | reiser | drcurl: Are u from states too? |
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| 04:28.02 | drcurl | you would like samichlous, http://www.thebrewsite.com/2004/12/15/samichlaus.php |
| 04:28.13 | reiser | drcurl: Might be |
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| 04:28.18 | drcurl | reiser, I'm from Canada, Quebec |
| 04:28.21 | cobelloy | Can anyone here help me with broadband setup? |
| 04:28.38 | cobelloy | what package to use? |
| 04:28.38 | drcurl | cobelloy, distros? |
| 04:28.47 | cobelloy | I have kubuntu |
| 04:28.48 | reiser | drcurl: Cool |
| 04:28.56 | cobelloy | getting sattelite installed right now |
| 04:29.16 | cobelloy | but tech guy needs to know how to set an IP and a domain or something |
| 04:29.17 | reiser | cobelloy: kubuntu.... now it's most famose around free distros |
| 04:29.30 | cobelloy | it is very good if you ask me |
| 04:29.40 | cobelloy | but need quick help with broadband |
| 04:30.14 | reiser | cobelloy: from Mark Shuttleworth? |
| 04:30.18 | cobelloy | need a gui package for connecting to broadband - any ideas? |
| 04:30.30 | cobelloy | who is that reiser? |
| 04:30.37 | SMiLeaf | cobelloy: if it's over ethernet you don't need anything. |
| 04:30.47 | reiser | Who is me or who is Shuttleworth? |
| 04:30.50 | drcurl | cobelloy, if you use dhcp, should setup automatically, if not, you have to contact your net provider for these number |
| 04:30.55 | cobelloy | but how to set the default gateway/domain thingy |
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| 04:31.07 | cobelloy | who is shuttleworth (lol) |
| 04:31.16 | SMiLeaf | cobelloy: try running dhcpcd eth0 |
| 04:31.26 | cobelloy | from cmd line? |
| 04:31.29 | SMiLeaf | ya |
| 04:31.38 | SMiLeaf | you may have to be root |
| 04:31.48 | cobelloy | right - just had a thought - don't think my ethernet is configured! |
| 04:31.54 | SMiLeaf | in which case you'd do sudo su from the command line |
| 04:32.00 | reiser | cobelloy: default gateway can be set in /etv/sysconfig/static-routes |
| 04:32.01 | drcurl | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.16 | SMiLeaf | yah that works too XD |
| 04:32.41 | cobelloy | right - hang on... |
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| 04:33.42 | cobelloy | says bash:command not found |
| 04:33.50 | SMiLeaf | meh figures |
| 04:33.51 | cobelloy | dhcpcd eth0 |
| 04:34.05 | cobelloy | that mean eth0 not configured? |
| 04:34.18 | cobelloy | not good |
| 04:34.23 | SMiLeaf | is it /etc/init.d/net the script? |
| 04:34.31 | SMiLeaf | I forget what ubuntu uses. |
| 04:34.32 | cobelloy | ...huh |
| 04:34.49 | cobelloy | not really that good at linux-ese yet |
| 04:34.50 | SMiLeaf | cobelloy: it's the script that should be ran on boot to get your ethernet going. |
| 04:35.04 | cobelloy | right - don't have a clue,but |
| 04:35.28 | cobelloy | when I installed - i remember it did say network was not configured - did I want to do it manually |
| 04:35.39 | cobelloy | now how do I do that? |
| 04:35.51 | SMiLeaf | I've only ever used the distribution once... :S |
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| 04:36.03 | SMiLeaf | I know they have a control center that I would think have that in there. |
| 04:36.06 | cobelloy | not a KDE thing - a ubuntu thing? |
| 04:36.14 | SMiLeaf | nope.. not a kde thing at all. |
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| 04:36.27 | SMiLeaf | not even close to be honest :) |
| 04:36.29 | cobelloy | KDE control centre no use then? |
| 04:36.42 | SMiLeaf | you'll have to find the ubuntu control center. |
| 04:36.56 | cobelloy | mmmm - don't think there is one - hang on |
| 04:37.04 | SMiLeaf | if I remember right they practically replaced the kde one with it :/ |
| 04:38.18 | SMiLeaf | if anything you'll probably get better help in #kubuntu or #ubuntu |
| 04:38.25 | cobelloy | under network settings it has eth 0 grayed out |
| 04:38.43 | cobelloy | oh - I didn't know about those - hang on... |
| 04:38.46 | SMiLeaf | cuz I don't really have a clue how to configure that under ubuntu :( |
| 04:39.20 | SMiLeaf | I know I just run /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start as root in gentoo and I'm good to go :D |
| 04:39.31 | cobelloy | righto - lots of people there, will try them - THANKS !! :) :) |
| 04:39.38 | SMiLeaf | np :D |
| 04:39.42 | SMiLeaf | good luck! |
| 04:40.43 | Breetai | Hi all, I am running kde 3.5 in fc4. I am also running a few windowmaker docapps how do I change which corner the apps dock in???? |
| 04:43.25 | CVirus | my Ugly desktop http://www.eglug.org/node/1820?size=_original |
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| 04:44.43 | SMiLeaf | hehe.. that background's fun :) |
| 04:44.49 | SMiLeaf | got it downloaded |
| 04:44.58 | CVirus | :-) |
| 04:45.47 | CVirus | SMiLeaf: Good night then |
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| 04:56.31 | CVirus | http://www.eglug.org/node/1821?size=_original |
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| 04:58.29 | gravos | damn your desktop is ugly |
| 04:58.45 | gravos | second ones better |
| 04:59.51 | CVirus | gravos: is it really ugly ? |
| 05:00.38 | gravos | i think it's distracting to have a big complicated image on the desktop |
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| 05:02.10 | Woosta | I agree, but to each his own. The pic is great, but it make it difficult to see what's going on :) |
| 05:02.45 | CVirus | how about my old gnome desktop http://www.eglug.org/node/1674?size=_original |
| 05:02.47 | CVirus | :D |
| 05:02.49 | CVirus | LOL |
| 05:03.19 | Woosta | Love that .. looks great |
| 05:03.33 | B13ll0 | hi there.. I have installed KDE 3.5.. had a problem with SysTray.. I can't move it to the corner of the screen.. |
| 05:03.42 | johnny69 | God evening Kde channel critters. |
| 05:03.43 | Woosta | But I think there's a rather large bug in your Gnome .. looks like a cockroach |
| 05:03.49 | johnny69 | errr, good rather |
| 05:04.02 | xoctopusx | how would I be able to play a MUD game with KDE? |
| 05:04.10 | B13ll0 | looks like a stupid question.. but I really can't find how to do it :( |
| 05:04.12 | CVirus | Woosta: LOOL |
| 05:05.06 | gravos | xoctopusx, use Konsole |
| 05:05.19 | xoctopusx | really? |
| 05:05.31 | gravos | and telnet to the mud server |
| 05:06.02 | xoctopusx | I'm also a bit new to the whole MUD thing...I guess I have to enter an addess or something like that am I correct? |
| 05:06.17 | gravos | yep |
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| 05:07.02 | xoctopusx | also are their MUD clients for KDE, any good ones or is the Konsole all I need? |
| 05:07.34 | gravos | probably, but use konsole first |
| 05:07.51 | gravos | no use downloading a special client if you decide you don't like mudding |
| 05:08.07 | xoctopusx | I'll try that...he he , your right. |
| 05:08.52 | xoctopusx | thanks, I swear I love coming here and asking questions...and getting answers from people who actually know what they are talking about. Its very refreshing. |
| 05:09.09 | gravos | it's a nice place to hang out ;) |
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| 05:10.07 | xoctopusx | yeah, I agree. |
| 05:10.27 | johnny69 | You mean you haven't been told t RTFM yet? |
| 05:10.29 | johnny69 | :) |
| 05:11.15 | xoctopusx | sighs, nah not yet, luckily for me, you folks here are pretty nice... |
| 05:11.44 | oGALAXYo | RTFM |
| 05:11.45 | oGALAXYo | :) |
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| 05:12.12 | xoctopusx | also everything isn't covered, like my MUD question. |
| 05:13.04 | xoctopusx | it would be different if I came in here asking how to network XP and SUSE with SAMBA :) |
| 05:13.40 | xoctopusx | then I'd expect a RTFM repsonse... |
| 05:15.28 | johnny69 | xoctopusx: Good luck getting it to work, even if you DO rtfm :) |
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| 05:15.53 | dominatus | hello! is there anyway for me to keep engage the dock launcher always in the back while using kwin? |
| 05:15.58 | xoctopusx | yeah thanks... |
| 05:16.00 | dominatus | if I make a rule for it, it doesnt work |
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| 05:17.09 | sean_micken | heya |
| 05:17.30 | nichos | hi all, using kde 3.5.0 on debian. I have a dual monitor set up, how can i get my icons to go to a different monitor? |
| 05:17.56 | sean_micken | running kde3.4... i use bitstream vera sans size 8, but for some reason, the fonts are smaller in a kopete conversation.. they're right in the typing box.. but in the actual convo box they're smaller than the rest of the system... anyone know why>? |
| 05:18.38 | Woosta | Yup, your screen rez is probably wrong at a guess .. and the developers have put one bit of text in pixel size and the other in point size |
| 05:19.00 | Woosta | So the pixel size is showing up right but the point size isn't |
| 05:19.32 | sean_micken | well |
| 05:19.39 | sean_micken | res is 1280x1024... 96dpi |
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| 05:19.49 | sean_micken | how do i fix it then |
| 05:20.09 | Woosta | res also depends on your monitor size |
| 05:20.22 | dominatus | is there anyway to open up the window operations window (to advanced, opacoty, to desktop) on a window without a border |
| 05:20.31 | sean_micken | Woosta: well, would it be that if all the other fonts look rgiht? |
| 05:20.53 | Woosta | Are you using a 17" monitor? |
| 05:21.05 | sean_micken | Woosta: 19 |
| 05:21.14 | Woosta | Those numbers are for 17" |
| 05:21.20 | Woosta | There's a utility to measure it somewhere |
| 05:21.51 | Woosta | But it should be about 86dpi from my calculations |
| 05:21.59 | Woosta | (It might not even be that though .. :)) |
| 05:22.14 | sean_micken | Woosta: whats the calculation you used? |
| 05:22.52 | Woosta | sqrt(W^2 + H^2) / 19 |
| 05:23.02 | sean_micken | ah |
| 05:23.06 | sean_micken | and should it be 86x86 then? |
| 05:23.13 | Woosta | Looks like it |
| 05:23.23 | Woosta | See if that fixes it anyway .. or at least if it changes it |
| 05:23.38 | sean_micken | well, i did modify the DPI.. the default wasn't giving me good looking fonts, 96x96 is better |
| 05:23.43 | Woosta | I know when I go to 800x600 without changing the res, everything buggers up like that |
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| 05:26.01 | ejofee | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
| 05:26.39 | sean_micken | Woosta: have you messed with fonts in X much? |
| 05:26.55 | Woosta | Not too much in X |
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| 05:29.14 | sean_micken | Woosta: ahh... im trying to get my fonts looking nice on an LCD. |
| 05:29.36 | sean_micken | after rebooting into linux when being in windows... man.. the fonts are pretty shitty :P |
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| 05:31.43 | dominatus | can any help? |
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| 05:36.11 | nichos | is there a way in kmail to remove messages from the server after x days? |
| 05:40.58 | straw | nichos: yes, in the settings for the account |
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| 05:43.13 | nichos | straw i see "leave fetched mesages on server" but dont see anything to delete after so many days |
| 05:43.22 | nichos | this is for a POP account |
| 05:43.57 | straw | nichos: what release of KDE? |
| 05:44.44 | nichos | 3.5.0 |
| 05:44.50 | nichos | im using kontact, if that matters, on debian |
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| 05:46.21 | marccollin | hi |
| 05:46.32 | marccollin | somebody used krpmbuilder? |
| 05:47.17 | straw | nichos: i've got "Leave fetched messages on the server", then "Leave fetched messages on the server for # of days" |
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| 05:47.33 | nichos | i might be blind, let me see |
| 05:50.06 | nichos | http://grepped.net/temp/kmail.jpg |
| 05:50.18 | nichos | i mean, is it there and im just not seing it? |
| 05:50.59 | straw | start kmail itself and look |
| 05:52.11 | nichos | nope, same window |
| 05:52.26 | nichos | are you using the same version? |
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| 05:53.30 | straw | kmail 1.9.1 |
| 05:53.47 | nichos | oh, hmm, 1.8.3 |
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| 05:55.57 | straw | nichos: http://straw.sh.nu/kde/kmail-account-settings.png |
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| 05:56.26 | nichos | yep, thats what i need |
| 05:56.34 | nichos | cant believe they didnt put it in sooner;( |
| 05:56.40 | straw | heheh |
| 05:56.45 | nichos | and now my apt is broken |
| 05:56.46 | nichos | damnit |
| 05:56.50 | nichos | might be time for bed;) |
| 05:58.00 | nichos | well straw i appreciate the help |
| 05:58.12 | straw | ok, no problem :) |
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| 06:05.17 | igotyofire | my keyboard stopped working in kde, thats why im in flux box now |
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| 06:09.00 | igotyofire | i dont know how to dertimine the issue tho |
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| 06:13.33 | igotyofire | http://lists.opensuse.org/archive/opensuse/2005-Nov/0546.html i see to be having this same problem |
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| 06:33.10 | igotyofire | anyone know why my keyboard is not working inside of kde? |
| 06:34.56 | benJIman | igotyofire: define "not working", perhaps you've told kde to use another keyboard layout, or activated an accessability feature like sticky/slowkeys ? |
| 06:35.51 | igotyofire | well |
| 06:35.57 | igotyofire | it does not input anything at all |
| 06:36.02 | Darkintent | anyone know where I can find a dependency break down of KDE that is not distro specific? I am not interested in the library break down for what is needed to build KDE I want to know how the KDE packages relate to each other |
| 06:36.16 | igotyofire | capslock wont even work, cant type into anything, but the mouse works fine |
| 06:36.28 | Darkintent | igotyofire: it works in other wm's? |
| 06:36.41 | igotyofire | yes im in fluxbox now, but not by choice |
| 06:37.15 | Darkintent | hmm my guess would be that you borked your keyboard layout settings for kde |
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| 06:37.27 | Dhraakellian | hmm... |
| 06:38.15 | Darkintent | that is the only thing that makes sense since it works in another wm |
| 06:38.18 | straw | heh |
| 06:38.21 | Darkintent | Dhraakellian: ? |
| 06:38.34 | Dhraakellian | Darkintent: long way of saying "Mischan!" |
| 06:38.39 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 06:38.43 | Darkintent | ah |
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| 06:39.19 | Darkintent | anyone have any clue about that dependency break down? |
| 06:39.41 | straw | igotyofire: try renaming ~/.kde/share/config/kxkbrc to kxkbrc.bak |
| 06:40.05 | straw | igotyofire: then log in to kde again |
| 06:40.12 | igotyofire | ok |
| 06:40.16 | igotyofire | and see if it works? |
| 06:40.20 | straw | yup |
| 06:41.34 | Darkintent | I had to chase down dependencies on my laptop in order to figure out how to make video thumbnails work in konqueror and I found that I had to compile arts support into kdebase and kdemultimedia at the very least and it would have been nice if there was a place I could go to to see the interdependencies of kde without it being filtered through a distro |
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| 06:42.48 | straw | Darkintent: there's info of that nature somewhere on kde.org, iirc. not that i recall where... |
| 06:42.52 | igotyofire | i dont know to rename in linux tho, im a noob |
| 06:43.15 | straw | igotyofire: cd ~/.kde/share/config/ |
| 06:43.33 | straw | igotyofire: mv kxkbrc kxkbrc.bak |
| 06:44.09 | Darkintent | I know there is a break down of non kde specific libraries and what kde packages make use of them but that isn't exactly what I need I'll keep searching the site though |
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| 06:44.16 | igotyofire | do i need to be root? |
| 06:44.26 | grandma | anyone know how to enable video thumbnail/previews for konqueror? |
| 06:45.42 | straw | grandma: build kdemultimedia with the xine-lib dev packages available |
| 06:45.58 | grandma | straw ah ok |
| 06:46.23 | grandma | straw thanks |
| 06:46.29 | straw | ok |
| 06:46.34 | Darkintent | you have to enable arts as well |
| 06:46.49 | igotyofire | mv kxkbrc kxkbrc.bak |
| 06:46.52 | igotyofire | opps |
| 06:47.04 | Darkintent | I just had this issue myself xinelib apparently is not enough |
| 06:47.23 | straw | hm, it should be |
| 06:47.36 | Darkintent | its not apparently |
| 06:47.50 | Darkintent | not on ubuntu or on gentoo |
| 06:47.53 | igotyofire | [root@localhost config]# mv kxkbrc kxkbrc.bak |
| 06:47.53 | igotyofire | mv: cannot stat `kxkbrc': No such file or directory |
| 06:48.13 | straw | arts would have little to do with video previews, i'd think |
| 06:48.37 | straw | igotyofire: hmm, it's not there? |
| 06:49.30 | lilo | there'll be a small server restart in a few moments; affected users, about 1,300 |
| 06:49.33 | igotyofire | i guess now |
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| 06:50.03 | straw | Darkintent: btw, we all get to chase down deps. i don't know that there's a complete list around |
| 06:50.12 | igotyofire | btw straw i think preview is related to ram or memory |
| 06:50.29 | igotyofire | when i turn off video preview more images in same folder begin to preview |
| 06:50.46 | straw | that's odd |
| 06:51.04 | igotyofire | i think so too, thats how my konqueror is behaving |
| 06:52.59 | Darkintent | turning it off shouldnt make more previews show up |
| 06:53.06 | Darkintent | ... |
| 06:53.14 | straw | that's what i was thinking :) |
| 06:53.15 | igotyofire | it does in my home folder |
| 06:53.38 | straw | you mean other formats? |
| 06:53.41 | igotyofire | yes |
| 06:53.47 | Darkintent | that is very interesting |
| 06:53.59 | igotyofire | i turn off video preview, and some jpg previews load up |
| 06:54.17 | igotyofire | rightnow pictures are set to preview but not every file previews only some |
| 06:54.20 | Darkintent | well yea that makes sense now |
| 06:54.28 | igotyofire | why? |
| 06:54.38 | Darkintent | that happens sometimes im not sure why myself |
| 06:54.43 | igotyofire | i would like everything to preview |
| 06:54.49 | igotyofire | only some files will tho |
| 06:54.56 | Darkintent | but jpeg previews are seperate from videos |
| 06:55.15 | igotyofire | png gets the same behavior from the videos |
| 06:55.23 | straw | well, thumbnails get generated and stored in ~/.thumbnails over here |
| 06:55.23 | Darkintent | it might be because the preview generator cant read the file |
| 06:55.57 | straw | thumbnail == preview |
| 06:56.05 | igotyofire | yes |
| 06:56.58 | straw | yeah, if thumbnail generation encounters something it can't deal with it stops |
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| 06:57.40 | straw | in fact, last i looked it spins uselessly. i forgot about that |
| 06:58.39 | Darkintent | does the konstruct build script just build packages as upstream has them put together or is it possible to tell it to only build Kate for example? |
| 06:59.16 | straw | it just builds a relese |
| 06:59.40 | Darkintent | I see |
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| 07:00.00 | straw | though you probably could do that with some effort |
| 07:00.16 | mythril | is there anyway to disable the renaming of files that are uploaded to include .part at the end? |
| 07:00.48 | straw | Darkintent: kate's in kdebase, so you could just build arts/kdelibs/kdebase |
| 07:01.04 | mythril | I mean it makes sense when downloading, but when uploading sometimes I have only write access and not rename access |
| 07:01.27 | Darkintent | I see |
| 07:01.37 | mythril | and blah.odt.part is not something windows users should have to put up with |
| 07:01.58 | mythril | oops, I forgot to mention I am using konqueror |
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| 07:09.54 | Darkintent | is kcontrol a hard or soft dependency of konqueror? |
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| 07:15.47 | Kr0ntab | heya folks. Kubuntu 5.10, KDE 3.4. Anything special about getting quicktime content working from konqueror as plugin? I of course have firefox working with mplayerplug-in just fine... w32codecs... etc... etc. Just trying to get konqueror's plugins to work right. Kaffeine and associated plugin is installed but at this point Im not sure if the two would be conflicting (mplayer+kaffein).e |
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| 07:18.01 | straw | Kr0ntab: it should be just a matter of fooling with the File Associations in Control Center |
| 07:18.53 | straw | mplayer and kaffeine should coexist just fime |
| 07:19.04 | Kr0ntab | hmmm ok.... |
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| 07:20.55 | Darkintent | is kcontrol a hard or soft dependency of konqueror? |
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| 07:21.33 | straw | not sure what you mean, Darkintent |
| 07:22.04 | Darkintent | in other words do you need kcontrol to build konqueror |
| 07:22.27 | straw | both originate in kdebase |
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| 07:23.35 | straw | read up on the DO_NOT_COMPILE env var |
| 07:25.41 | straw | though i'd advise against it, unless you're pressed for device space |
| 07:26.41 | Darkintent | why is it dangerous in any way? |
| 07:27.35 | straw | not dangerous, just need to know what you're doing. i haven't much experience with it |
| 07:28.21 | straw | i've only used it to get a build to continue if somethings broken or i can't meet a dep |
| 07:29.13 | Darkintent | ah |
| 07:30.12 | Darkintent | sadly its not exactly possible I dont think to get Konqueror to function correctly as a web browser without kcontrol the mouse gesture thing is in kcontrol |
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| 07:30.25 | Darkintent | you cant seem to set those things from konqueror |
| 07:31.40 | Darkintent | seems like a case of "you can do it but..." |
| 07:31.49 | straw | yup |
| 07:33.07 | Kr0ntab | straw: it's kind of strange.... I'm getting this error when checking out an embedded quicktime clip... from quicktime.com http://pastebin.com/498934 |
| 07:33.51 | Kr0ntab | according to file association... the plugin is already associated with qt, mov. hmmm.... |
| 07:34.32 | Kr0ntab | not sure if this is a xine thing.... do you have kaffeine using zine or gstreamer as it's engine? |
| 07:34.37 | Kr0ntab | xine* |
| 07:34.59 | straw | xine, i get the same error |
| 07:35.10 | Kr0ntab | oic.... |
| 07:35.12 | Kr0ntab | hehehe |
| 07:35.14 | Darkintent | is there a way to manually set the colour scheme for kde apps without calling kcontrol? |
| 07:35.24 | Kr0ntab | well doesnt that suck |
| 07:35.27 | Kr0ntab | hehe |
| 07:35.37 | Darkintent | I would agree |
| 07:36.02 | Darkintent | then again I run 64bit so I can barely get things like qu8ick time going at all |
| 07:36.15 | benJIman | works for me |
| 07:36.16 | Darkintent | quick |
| 07:36.19 | benJIman | what distro? |
| 07:36.34 | Darkintent | you mean me? |
| 07:36.37 | benJIman | yes |
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| 07:36.41 | Darkintent | gentoo |
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| 07:37.55 | Darkintent | but its my arch that is the problem unless you managed to get things like quick time to work while running 64bit browsers like konqueror or Firefox |
| 07:38.02 | straw | i can play it fine with kaffeine if i get it with wget |
| 07:38.29 | Darkintent | I usually keep mplayer-bin around for this sort of thing |
| 07:38.50 | Kr0ntab | hmmmm |
| 07:38.56 | Kr0ntab | lemme try that too |
| 07:39.10 | Darkintent | although I have started using firefox-bin because after a 12hour build I was too lazy to sit through a 40min firefox build |
| 07:39.48 | straw | heh. i wouldn't have the patience for gentoo :) |
| 07:40.14 | Darkintent | I accidentally did emerge kde instead of kdebase which was part of the problem |
| 07:40.46 | Darkintent | its going to be annoying at best to go backwards and get the "split" builds |
| 07:41.01 | Darkintent | then again using those causes "issues" |
| 07:41.09 | straw | i'd advise against the split builds |
| 07:41.40 | Darkintent | and then you end up with 80% of kde installed again anyway just to get the apps you wanna use working correctly |
| 07:41.43 | straw | seems they're confusing unless you're very familiar with kde |
| 07:42.06 | Kr0ntab | wow... i cant even play it straight from kaffeine... |
| 07:42.57 | Darkintent | its not so much that |
| 07:43.28 | Darkintent | its just that the split builds have a way of excluding things for fully functioning split builds of the programs |
| 07:43.46 | Darkintent | and some distros do thier split stuff wierd |
| 07:44.02 | Darkintent | like ubuntu doesnt have the profile selection menu |
| 07:44.31 | Darkintent | and when you load the file management profile the google bar is still visible |
| 07:45.13 | straw | hm, konq+kaffeine can't play anything http://movies.apple.com/trailers/ for me |
| 07:45.51 | Kr0ntab | boooo..... |
| 07:46.02 | straw | bah, i've gotta sleep. later folks |
| 07:46.02 | Kr0ntab | mplayer works fine, too.... |
| 07:46.08 | Kr0ntab | hehe laters bud |
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| 07:53.57 | ejofee | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
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| 08:09.47 | sensei | Hello, using Suse 10 KDE 3.4.2.. I'm looking for a piece of software which allows me to use the hotkeys on my multimedia keyboard |
| 08:10.12 | sensei | I've tried 'initial', but that keeps leaving defunct processes of every command it issues |
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| 08:19.58 | benJIman | sensei: kcontrol -> regional & accessability -> input actions , you will first need to select the appropriate keyboard layout in kcontrol -> regional & accessabliity -> keyboard layout |
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| 08:22.04 | raboof | hm. can korganizer only show i ical file at a time? |
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| 08:24.34 | sensei | benJIman, appropriate layout? |
| 08:24.53 | benJIman | sensei: eg microsoft natural, or whatever keyboard you have |
| 08:24.56 | sensei | What do you mean by that? Language wise the keyboard is fine, just that I have like volumeup buttons etc. |
| 08:25.19 | sensei | oh |
| 08:25.30 | benJIman | you can select the model too |
| 08:25.38 | benJIman | what keyboard do you have? |
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| 08:27.00 | sensei | Microsoft Natural MultiMedia Keyboard 1.0A |
| 08:27.19 | benJIman | then select that |
| 08:27.39 | benJIman | it's labeled wireless for some reason, it's the same layout though |
| 08:27.54 | benJIman | I am using it on an ms natural ergonomic 4000 |
| 08:28.02 | benJIman | then you can assign any actions in the input actions module |
| 08:28.36 | sensei | I can't see anything like that here.. KHotkeys is there tho |
| 08:29.15 | benJIman | use that then, it's usually labeled input actions |
| 08:29.19 | benJIman | but it's khotkeys |
| 08:29.24 | sensei | oki :) |
| 08:29.42 | benJIman | anyways I have an exam |
| 08:29.55 | sensei | Ok, thanks a lot, and good luck |
| 08:30.24 | sensei | Volume up working now \o/ :P |
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| 09:00.20 | gravos | Konversation Termination |
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| 09:03.41 | mobtek | hmmm kget in 3.5.0 is broken with dropping more than a couple of links on it |
| 09:03.44 | mobtek | just dies |
| 09:03.45 | mobtek | grrr |
| 09:03.48 | mobtek | bugs time |
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| 09:04.23 | startu_net | charming new years wish: http://purl.oclc.org/NET/NewYear-2005-text |
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| 09:07.05 | gravos | it doesn't work |
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| 09:12.58 | Darkintent | anyone here have a problem with konqueror and forums.gentoo.org specifically not being able to sign in? |
| 09:14.22 | PhilRod | perhaps you disabled cookies? |
| 09:15.24 | Darkintent | it shouldnt be |
| 09:15.29 | Darkintent | but I'll check |
| 09:16.40 | Darkintent | I see an x next to cookies in html settings |
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| 09:16.58 | odat | KDE is the linux version of MS |
| 09:17.02 | odat | yuck |
| 09:17.18 | Tm_T | odat: actually no |
| 09:17.23 | PhilRod | 1/10, more trolling practice needed |
| 09:17.25 | oGALAXYo | MS is a company dude. |
| 09:17.37 | oGALAXYo | KDE is a desktop environment for open source not linux in particular |
| 09:17.38 | Tm_T | btw, if that's all you have to say, you're already done, so you can go now |
| 09:18.01 | odat | kde says use all of our special programs and if you want to develop commercial stuff you better pay |
| 09:18.03 | odat | yuck |
| 09:18.12 | oGALAXYo | regardless of that Windows has 95% of the marketshare still. and windows vista will be another major bump. |
| 09:18.12 | Tm_T | kde doesn't say so |
| 09:18.19 | oGALAXYo | odat: you are a fucking idiot. |
| 09:18.24 | Tm_T | =) |
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| 09:18.29 | Tm_T | oGALAXYo: <3 |
| 09:18.42 | odat | tell me thats not true and your the idiot |
| 09:18.54 | Tm_T | hah |
| 09:18.56 | Darkintent | PhilRod: any idea what might be making konqueror behave in this strange way its never done this before |
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| 09:19.03 | oGALAXYo | odat: i tell you its true that you are one. |
| 09:19.17 | PhilRod | ok guys, let's not feed the troll |
| 09:19.19 | Tm_T | PhilRod: hullo |
| 09:19.34 | oGALAXYo | odat: ok, now show us where its written that KDE requires you to pay when developing a commercial app |
| 09:19.37 | Tm_T | PhilRod: troll? I dont see any trolls nor fairies |
| 09:19.40 | oGALAXYo | odat: show me and i apologize to you. |
| 09:19.54 | odat | oGALAXYo, its on the kde website |
| 09:19.58 | oGALAXYo | odat: link |
| 09:20.18 | PhilRod | Darkintent: cookies are the only thing I can think of |
| 09:20.20 | PhilRod | hi Tm_T :-) |
| 09:20.29 | iKernel | kde is usefull for people who have alot of ram and a dammned good graphics card. |
| 09:21.06 | Tm_T | iKernel: also it's good in my pentium 200 with 64M ram and s3virge ;) |
| 09:21.21 | iKernel | eek! |
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| 09:21.28 | Tm_T | hahah |
| 09:21.38 | Darkintent | I think odat is thinking more of the way qt itself is liscensed that has nothing to do with developing for kde itself |
| 09:21.45 | Darkintent | as far as I know |
| 09:21.59 | oGALAXYo | KDE is a very good desktop environment for open source architectures based on the POSIX philosophy.. a lot of really skilled people work day and night to provide trolling retards as well as normal good human beings a usable and good desktop experience. sadly there are still sick people who do not contribute anything else than pure blatantly sick trolling. |
| 09:22.04 | Tm_T | Darkintent: and understand qt license totally wrong |
| 09:22.37 | odat | Darkintent, correct which without QT kde doesn't exist |
| 09:22.54 | Darkintent | but that has no bearing on kde |
| 09:23.02 | oGALAXYo | and whoever said KDE is like MS dont get a thing. KDE is a desktop environment while MS is a company (microsoft). it would have been a difference if said Windows compared to KDE but even then it's no way compareable since Microsoft Windows provide an OS + Desktop experience that has to work on many more types of hardware combinations, cards etc. |
| 09:23.16 | PhilRod | odat: if you don't like the licence, don't use it. End of story. Please try to create trouble elsewhere |
| 09:23.40 | odat | oGALAXYo, http://kdemyths.urbanlizard.com/myth/64 heres your link |
| 09:23.49 | oGALAXYo | i also think that stuff like active directory, microsoft management console, as well as stuff like distributed file system and other stuff are quite cool on MS windows, needless to say all the great games written primarily for windows microsoft products in mind. |
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| 09:24.11 | oGALAXYo | odat: thats no official kde site. |
| 09:24.20 | oGALAXYo | odat: show me the same on *.kde.org page |
| 09:25.17 | Darkintent | he didnt read that thing correctly |
| 09:25.20 | oGALAXYo | <odat> kde says use all of our special programs and if you want to develop commercial stuff you better pay |
| 09:25.35 | oGALAXYo | and where the fucking world is there KDE ? i never saw someone from kde saying this. |
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| 09:26.01 | oGALAXYo | odat: and what alternatives would you suggest.. now tell us another desktop with similar capabilities like KDE. |
| 09:26.34 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: of course he didnt read. as many idiots dont read when they troll. they speak out of their arse or repeat the nonsense spread by others. |
| 09:26.38 | oGALAXYo | its sickening. |
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| 09:28.46 | odat | so i'm lying? |
| 09:28.54 | odat | that is not the truth about qt? |
| 09:29.08 | oGALAXYo | you said KDE ... |
| 09:29.18 | oGALAXYo | <odat> kde says use all of our special programs and if you want to develop commercial stuff you better pay |
| 09:29.34 | oGALAXYo | and i asked you to show where its written. |
| 09:30.03 | Darkintent | qt is not the same as kde |
| 09:30.12 | Darkintent | kde is built with qt however |
| 09:30.19 | oGALAXYo | odat: yes, since you cant prove it.. and even after being requested to show us the proof.. yes you are lying. |
| 09:30.43 | Darkintent | I could make a pure qt app that doesnt use any kde libraries |
| 09:30.54 | oGALAXYo | thats hardly a kde problem. |
| 09:31.10 | Darkintent | hell I could make an entire desktop out of qt and never deal with kde at all |
| 09:31.19 | oGALAXYo | exactly. |
| 09:31.24 | odat | oGALAXYo, funny i gave you a link and i'm also on trolltech's website glaring in front of me is buy qt now hmmmm wondering why they have that ???? :) |
| 09:31.43 | oGALAXYo | odat: kde has no relationship with trolltech and the licensing modell trolltech provides for Qt. |
| 09:31.50 | Darkintent | odat you seem to be missing the point |
| 09:31.58 | oGALAXYo | odat: so thats no KDE problem, and still KDE doesnt force anyone to pay money for writing commercial KDE apps. |
| 09:32.20 | oGALAXYo | odat: your problem is with trolltech (a company in norway) not with kde. |
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| 09:32.36 | Darkintent | in theory couldnt you write a kde app that doesnt use qt at all? |
| 09:32.52 | oGALAXYo | you probably can |
| 09:32.53 | odat | i didn't say they have to pay kde they have to pay trolltech for use of qt |
| 09:32.56 | oGALAXYo | write apps using python |
| 09:33.06 | odat | and kde is built on qt |
| 09:33.08 | oGALAXYo | odat: kde doesnt pay trolltech |
| 09:33.11 | odat | hence the problem |
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| 09:33.23 | oGALAXYo | odat: which part of 'kde dont pay trolltech' you dont get ? |
| 09:33.27 | pholie | hello, i'm a bit lost in websvn :-/ could you point me where do i find i18n files for kopete? |
| 09:33.41 | oGALAXYo | pholie: its in kde-i18n package |
| 09:33.45 | PhilRod | pholie: you want the .po files? |
| 09:33.57 | pholie | PhilRod: yep, |
| 09:33.59 | odat | the developer that makes commercial software for kde that uses QT has to pay trolltech what part of that don't you understand |
| 09:34.04 | odat | kde is built on qt |
| 09:34.08 | odat | understand that? |
| 09:34.09 | oGALAXYo | odat: thats not true |
| 09:34.09 | pholie | want to check what status it is now |
| 09:34.16 | odat | yes yes yes it is |
| 09:34.34 | oGALAXYo | odat: if you have issues with trolltechs licensing model then why dont you go to the trolltech irc channel or their page and complain ? |
| 09:34.42 | oGALAXYo | odat: why do you need to do this here ? |
| 09:34.49 | odat | so understand what desktop your using and what your really supporting by using kde |
| 09:35.03 | PhilRod | pholie: trunk/l10n/<lang> |
| 09:35.05 | oGALAXYo | odat: ok any alternatives you can suggest ? |
| 09:35.13 | Darkintent | oGALAXYo: wouldnt it be easier to just ignore him |
| 09:35.20 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: no |
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| 09:35.26 | PhilRod | odat: for such a poor, clichéd troll, you've got a very good rise. Congratulations |
| 09:35.29 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: clueless idiots need to be enlightened :) |
| 09:35.40 | PhilRod | oGALAXYo: please continue this discussion somewhere else |
| 09:35.41 | odat | of course gtk no stipulations at all no 2 kinds of liscenses no hidden oops i gotcha stuff |
| 09:35.59 | pholie | PhilRod: ok, thank you much |
| 09:36.10 | oGALAXYo | odat: you have no clue about GTK+. there is far more commercial stuff behind it than anything else. |
| 09:36.20 | oGALAXYo | PhilRod: please tell odat to stop |
| 09:36.39 | bssteph | "it takes two to tango" |
| 09:36.47 | PhilRod | touché |
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| 09:37.02 | Darkintent | oGALAXYo: do you have any clue why knqueror would simply refuse to let me login to forums.gentoo.org |
| 09:37.08 | odat | oGALAXYo, you don't have to pay to develop commercial software when using gtk thats what i know thats why there has been a giant push for gnome and gtk even from your beloved |
| 09:37.09 | zak | hi |
| 09:37.11 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: sorry no. |
| 09:37.11 | odat | SUSE |
| 09:37.15 | odat | why is that? |
| 09:37.16 | zak | hio |
| 09:37.27 | oGALAXYo | odat: you dont need to pay trolltech to develop commercial software either.. using qt. |
| 09:37.41 | odat | oGALAXYo, yes you do learn how to read |
| 09:37.42 | Tm_T | aye |
| 09:37.47 | oGALAXYo | odat: you dont |
| 09:37.48 | Darkintent | its really wierd I sign in and all but im just not logged in it makes no sense |
| 09:38.00 | PhilRod | Darkintent: does it work in ff? |
| 09:38.06 | Darkintent | yea |
| 09:38.07 | Tm_T | PhilRod: ff? |
| 09:38.16 | pholie | odat: i'm sure it is explained in trolltech faq for people like u |
| 09:38.17 | PhilRod | firefox |
| 09:38.22 | Tm_T | PhilRod: you mean fx ;) |
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| 09:39.01 | odat | oGALAXYo, yes i'm telling you you don't have to pay trolltech to use QT to develop free / open source software but you do if you develop commercial software using QT |
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| 09:39.08 | oGALAXYo | odat: look, i happen to be a former gnome developer for over 6 years as well as a former gnome foundation member.. so please dont come with GTK+ soo cool blah blah.. i happen and still do know a shitload more about it than you (that includes, the toolkit itself, how broken the entire gnome architecture is, how rude the community is (developers)) as well as how much comemrcialism and marketing is pumped in the ass of GNOME. |
| 09:39.47 | oGALAXYo | PhilRod: sorry :) |
| 09:39.53 | Tm_T | odat: thing is, you can do open source commercial products |
| 09:40.02 | oGALAXYo | Tm_T: indeed :) |
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| 09:40.29 | oGALAXYo | kompany does open source commerical apps and they are quite successful |
| 09:40.37 | Tm_T | odat: check cedega for example, they release sources AND commercial product |
| 09:40.46 | oGALAXYo | Tm_T: not to mention all the other companies who happily use Qt even in close source environments. |
| 09:40.51 | Tm_T | <3 |
| 09:41.09 | Tm_T | oGALAXYo: will you marry me? |
| 09:41.15 | oGALAXYo | there are probably 10 - 20 times more companies using Qt directly from trolltech + paying license AND support than who use GTK+ |
| 09:41.20 | oGALAXYo | Tm_T: yes |
| 09:41.24 | Tm_T | lovely |
| 09:41.25 | oGALAXYo | ;) |
| 09:41.36 | pholie | hey but opera uses qt too and it's not open source |
| 09:41.55 | Tm_T | pholie: so they pay for license |
| 09:42.03 | pholie | ah,sure :) |
| 09:42.12 | Darkintent | I thought it was funny looking at code for a dialouge box for gtk and then it shows the ruby code it was so much nicer looking |
| 09:42.23 | oGALAXYo | pholie: nasa, mercedes, usa army, trolltech, adobe, and many more use Qt in their products.. the money they pay is peanuts compared to the ROI and the support they get. |
| 09:42.43 | oGALAXYo | oh wait exclude trolltech there :) |
| 09:43.03 | bssteph | yeah, trolltech does all their work in motif ;) |
| 09:43.03 | pholie | :) |
| 09:43.21 | oGALAXYo | motif aint that bad either. |
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| 09:43.28 | oGALAXYo | ah he finally left |
| 09:43.30 | oGALAXYo | what a moron |
| 09:43.39 | bssteph | oh, nothing against motif |
| 09:43.44 | Darkintent | I dont think either toolkit is bad if it is used correctly gimp is an example of a gtk app that alot of people like although it seems to not be as good as photoshop for alot of people |
| 09:43.54 | Darkintent | I personally just dont like the qt look |
| 09:44.14 | Tm_T | Darkintent: so you haven't found widget style of yours |
| 09:44.17 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: its hard to satisfy everyone... |
| 09:44.28 | Darkintent | that is true |
| 09:44.40 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: i personally use the plastic theme for kde.. |
| 09:44.46 | oGALAXYo | its quite awesome.. for my personal taste. |
| 09:44.49 | Darkintent | but something doesnt feel right about the look |
| 09:44.51 | Darkintent | me too |
| 09:45.01 | Darkintent | its the only thing I can look like |
| 09:45.15 | Darkintent | I just like the way gtk apps tend to look |
| 09:45.23 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: http://img234.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot34ji.jpg |
| 09:45.33 | gravos | gtx is better |
| 09:45.33 | Darkintent | I dont understand why they lack so many features though |
| 09:45.39 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: look at that screenshot and the dozens of different toolbar types there is for GTK+ |
| 09:45.54 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: GTK+ looks quite disharmonic. |
| 09:46.28 | oGALAXYo | one toolbar showing icons only, one text below icons, one has draghandles, some apps have toolbar editors others not etc.. |
| 09:46.40 | oGALAXYo | kde doesnt have that that issue due to clean OOP approach. |
| 09:46.48 | oGALAXYo | every toolbar is the SAME |
| 09:46.57 | oGALAXYo | only showing other symbols and accelerators in it. |
| 09:47.04 | oGALAXYo | thats why kde is so powerful. |
| 09:47.26 | pholie | i hate gk's combobox. it's shame for them :-D |
| 09:47.32 | oGALAXYo | i only wish that even normal people would understand these basic concepts.. even by looking at simple pictures they should get an idea. |
| 09:47.49 | oGALAXYo | gtkcombobox makes use of the gtktree model.. |
| 09:47.51 | oGALAXYo | the new one. |
| 09:48.12 | oGALAXYo | you need to setup a tree model (listview or tree) and then attach it to the combobox. |
| 09:48.20 | Tm_T | oGALAXYo: haha, nice variety in that shot |
| 09:48.29 | pholie | oGALAXYo: that's odd... |
| 09:48.50 | Darkintent | what did you say was the name of the toolkit in that screenshot you linked to me? |
| 09:48.58 | Darkintent | gtx? |
| 09:49.01 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: GTK+ |
| 09:49.10 | Darkintent | ah |
| 09:49.24 | oGALAXYo | well to say the truth its a mixture of GTKui, BonoboUI and libGNOME UI |
| 09:49.34 | oGALAXYo | all core components of gnome that results in such a mess |
| 09:49.46 | pholie | http://img523.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gkcombo2el.png <-- this looks shitty |
| 09:50.02 | gravos | that's stupid |
| 09:50.10 | gravos | see it on macs all the time though |
| 09:50.14 | oGALAXYo | pholie: right but thats a bit different thing.. |
| 09:50.28 | oGALAXYo | gravos: thats a bad excuse .. |
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| 09:50.59 | Darkintent | I honestly dont have a problem with the differing button styles |
| 09:51.12 | bssteph | are my eyes playing tricks on me or has keramik been updated recently |
| 09:51.19 | oGALAXYo | so macos has it and microsoft windows has it.. so its a good justification for gnome to have it as well. while they cry loudest for their beloved HIG and their consistency, cleaness and good look. |
| 09:51.23 | bssteph | it seems less jump-out-of-the-screen-like |
| 09:51.30 | oGALAXYo | bssteph: yes it has been. |
| 09:51.52 | bssteph | oGALAXYo: cool. looking at the preview it seems i could maybe manage it for a while ;) |
| 09:52.02 | bssteph | back in the days when it was default it was the first thing i changed on a new user |
| 09:52.11 | gravos | i wasnt making an excuse |
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| 09:52.39 | Darkintent | quite frankly I think all kde buttons look like crap gtk ones are not all that much better though |
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| 09:52.52 | Darkintent | my main thing has to do with the colours |
| 09:53.20 | Darkintent | its wierd its like kde's colours are "flat" |
| 09:53.30 | Darkintent | its hard for me to explain |
| 09:53.58 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: thats really just an impression.. it depends on the default look chosen by Qt or KDE.. |
| 09:54.09 | oGALAXYo | and the engine |
| 09:55.07 | Darkintent | I think the efl looks nice though almost nicer than gtk |
| 09:55.28 | Darkintent | seems to make kde apps more tolerable for me |
| 09:55.45 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: well its hard to satisfy everyones needs.. but i also think that people need to get a common sense of what its good and what not.. of course GNOME has some advantages in looks.. but KDE has some major going with consistency, functions, working desktop and stuff that works. |
| 09:55.57 | Tm_T | true |
| 09:56.06 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: at work or when i do some serious work, i dont look on how the buttons look. i look at where to get the apps to get my work done. |
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| 09:56.38 | Darkintent | I think that is because of the people make the applications more than anything |
| 09:56.47 | Darkintent | yea I get you i'm like that too |
| 09:56.58 | gravos | it's sticky really. that's all you can do. |
| 09:57.32 | Darkintent | but when im not trying to learn ruby I find kde apps pissing me off more than the gtk ones its a preference thing |
| 09:57.54 | gravos | why ruby is? |
| 09:58.08 | Darkintent | oo scripting language |
| 09:58.26 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: well yeah.. i think the gtk/gnome vs. qt/kde thing is keeping us busy for another couple of years.. but then kde 4 will change a lot hopefully. |
| 09:59.09 | Darkintent | I wish it was possible to depolarize the whole thing really |
| 09:59.14 | lorne | gravos: have you heard of ruby on rails? |
| 10:00.28 | Darkintent | that is part of what I was trying to get at yesterday I dont think there should be two camps of apps doing the same stuff over and over etc |
| 10:00.47 | Darkintent | its like the distro wars on a smaller scale |
| 10:00.59 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: i blame most of the recent problems towards the gnome folks.. who have shown total inability to work together with kde correctly.. (specialy their initial founder) who initially worked on KDE and then disagreed like a whining whimp and started gnome. |
| 10:01.14 | Darkintent | in the end the end users are the people who loose |
| 10:01.32 | oGALAXYo | i doubt this.. |
| 10:01.40 | oGALAXYo | today kde is 2/3 used in the open source world. |
| 10:01.47 | oGALAXYo | and its getting more and more dominance. |
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| 10:02.14 | oGALAXYo | now that MONO made it into redhat kde will see another major bump forward with new users or switched users. |
| 10:02.32 | Darkintent | so now we have a hemogeny a virtual one anyway at this rate |
| 10:02.36 | Shadowcat | ¨what's mono? |
| 10:02.45 | Tm_T | oGALAXYo: hehe |
| 10:03.11 | oGALAXYo | the GNOME camp is quite splitted. a bunch of java nerds and a bunch of mono people and then a lot of them who hoped that redhat would pull a plug into novells ass.. but now that they took MONO inside redhat its clear that the road for mono is open for primary GNOME use.. and that will piss another shitload of people off. |
| 10:03.18 | oGALAXYo | with other words.. welcome new KDE people... |
| 10:03.39 | oGALAXYo | Shadowcat: well MONO is a .NET implementation from microsoft. |
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| 10:05.13 | oGALAXYo | and its full of questionable license issues too and infrigments. |
| 10:05.28 | oGALAXYo | i bet its a more dangerous pot to set my ass on than using Qt :) |
| 10:05.57 | oGALAXYo | i only wait watching MS snipping with its fingers and see a big *plooop* and novell disappearing from this planet. |
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| 10:07.30 | omnikrome | stupid internet |
| 10:10.50 | Darkintent | one thing I never got was why things like kio were not put into something that operates independant of a DE like how udev is in that its not a part of any one de or wm |
| 10:13.07 | pholie | media:// is not that bad but gtk apps don't support it |
| 10:13.11 | doktoreas | hi guys! |
| 10:13.20 | Darkintent | you know I hate that |
| 10:13.31 | doktoreas | any idea why i can't hear audio from flash file inside konqui? |
| 10:13.57 | Darkintent | oh one question do you all have probles using media:// when using the file selection box of things like kaffeine |
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| 10:14.12 | Darkintent | I always get an error saying you can only select local files |
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| 10:14.32 | Darkintent | but all of my drives are local so I dont get what the problem is |
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| 10:15.32 | pholie | Darkintent: i don't use kaffeine but in general, i don't see this kind off error |
| 10:15.49 | Darkintent | its so wierd man |
| 10:17.18 | Darkintent | yea if I try to select a file using the media protocol its a problem but it seems ok from konqueror |
| 10:23.07 | Darkintent | does this look like a mere sorting operation to any of you?:putfile.com/pic.php?pic=1/802590335.png&s=x11 |
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| 10:28.35 | oGALAXYo | hmm that odat guy keeps querying me. |
| 10:28.37 | oGALAXYo | spamming me all the time. |
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| 10:29.56 | Darkintent | lol I posted on the rox mailing list about the file grouping you see in that link |
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| 10:31.04 | Darkintent | and the only person to reply so far firstly misses the fact that IE is able to group files by mime type, and of course sort them and says rox already has this...and now supposedly no one will want to implement this feature |
| 10:31.19 | Darkintent | I hope the konqueror devs response is not the same |
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| 10:31.56 | Darkintent | being able to see all my wallpapers of given dimensions automagically grouped under the same heading is just wonderful |
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| 10:49.42 | pholie | omg, really offtopic but USA laws are stupid: http://news.zdnet.com/2100-1009_22-6024695.html?tag=zdfd.newsfeed |
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| 10:51.49 | Darkintent | I know I live here |
| 10:54.30 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: what area of usa are you from ? |
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| 10:54.55 | Darkintent | east coast |
| 10:55.11 | oGALAXYo | ahh.. close to NY ? |
| 10:55.15 | Darkintent | yea |
| 10:55.22 | oGALAXYo | line 17k ? |
| 10:55.26 | oGALAXYo | or hows it called ? |
| 10:55.33 | Darkintent | well not really actually |
| 10:55.56 | Darkintent | I live on the east coast but at the southern end |
| 10:56.01 | oGALAXYo | ahh ok |
| 10:56.12 | oGALAXYo | so more towards florida |
| 10:57.37 | Darkintent | yea |
| 10:57.41 | Darkintent | :( |
| 10:57.55 | oGALAXYo | charleston jacksonville ? |
| 10:58.17 | Darkintent | I live closer to miami |
| 10:58.25 | oGALAXYo | ahh |
| 10:58.37 | Darkintent | its not so southern thankfully |
| 10:58.45 | oGALAXYo | well i am a bit irritated since you said YEA when i asked if its close to NY :) |
| 10:58.51 | oGALAXYo | well thats a slight long distance :) |
| 10:58.54 | Darkintent | lol |
| 10:58.57 | Darkintent | dorry |
| 10:58.59 | Darkintent | :P |
| 10:59.33 | oGALAXYo | i wonder if there's someone close to NY inside this channel. |
| 11:00.00 | Darkintent | looking for a date or something lol |
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| 11:00.27 | oGALAXYo | Darkintent: no just curious... someone from GNOME lives close at the 17k NY ... in the area of montgomery... |
| 11:00.35 | oGALAXYo | which then reminds me of orange county |
| 11:00.38 | oGALAXYo | and then american choppers :) |
| 11:00.43 | Darkintent | ah |
| 11:02.13 | Darkintent | I cant believe the rox people wouldnt want to group files by type like IE does its something no other file manager I have seen does which totally sucks |
| 11:03.15 | Darkintent | hmm definetly need to play prince of persia today I have been neglecting it |
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| 11:11.00 | sfs | hi there |
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| 11:11.49 | sfs | i'm seeing a whole lot of flickering when kicker updates stuff in the taskbar... anyone know if this is a "feature", or known bug ? :) |
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| 11:12.11 | sfs | i'm on fedora core 4 |
| 11:12.24 | oGALAXYo | what kde version |
| 11:12.28 | oGALAXYo | what xfree/xorg version |
| 11:12.35 | oGALAXYo | what graphic card and driver |
| 11:12.39 | oGALAXYo | what kernel version |
| 11:13.23 | sfs | radeon (opensource driver - no3d - radeon x300), kernel 2.6.15-1_1883_FC4, xorg-x11-6.8.2-37.FC4.49.2, kde 3.5 |
| 11:13.57 | oGALAXYo | hmm strange |
| 11:14.00 | sfs | kde is 3.5.0-0.1 |
| 11:14.04 | oGALAXYo | enable backingstore in xorg |
| 11:14.23 | sfs | arrh :) maybe that would help :) |
| 11:15.35 | sfs | brb |
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| 11:18.29 | sfs | oGALAXYo: got any other ideas ? - this didnt change anything |
| 11:18.42 | oGALAXYo | hmm dunno really.. |
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| 11:19.22 | oGALAXYo | but its probably something between your card and your open source driver. |
| 11:19.25 | sfs | i just recently had a gentoo installation with same version of kde and xorg, and there was no issues |
| 11:19.37 | oGALAXYo | exactly.. |
| 11:19.48 | oGALAXYo | thats why i am a bit irritated.. |
| 11:20.24 | sfs | oGALAXYo: oww.. you're suffering from some "switching" issues ? |
| 11:20.32 | oGALAXYo | no |
| 11:21.10 | oGALAXYo | everything works normal here. |
| 11:22.00 | pholie | sfs: i see it to |
| 11:22.02 | pholie | o |
| 11:22.19 | sfs | pholie: oh? what gfx card,driver, kernel, kde ? |
| 11:22.55 | pholie | it was a bug perviously that when you using btransparent kicker, the background wasn't updated when something tray changed |
| 11:23.08 | pholie | now background is ok but it flickers sometimes |
| 11:23.20 | oGALAXYo | ok thats a different thing if it triggers some 'effects' |
| 11:23.36 | pholie | sfs: nvidia gf4, kde 3.5... |
| 11:23.37 | oGALAXYo | i use KDE as is... only alter a few things... but no transparency here. |
| 11:24.11 | sfs | pholie: whenever i hover the mouse over tasks in the taskbar it flickers |
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| 11:24.41 | pholie | imo kicker needs a complete rewrite |
| 11:24.42 | oGALAXYo | sfs: sounds really strange. |
| 11:25.11 | PhilRod | pholie: that's what it's getting for KDE 4. See plasma.bddf.ca |
| 11:25.39 | PhilRod | http://plasma.kde.org rather |
| 11:26.29 | sfs | oGALAXYo: but I cant seem to figure out what the huge difference is between my previous Xorg and the new one.... |
| 11:29.51 | sfs | hmm maybe its related to me using 100dpi in xorg instead of 75dpi earlier ? |
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| 11:33.04 | pholie | PhilRod: are there any mockups? the forum doesn;t seem to work |
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| 11:33.29 | PhilRod | pholie: I don't know. Perhaps the development list archives have some |
| 11:34.01 | KimmoKM | Every time I start contact, KOrganizer Reminder Daemon starts up also. |
| 11:34.07 | KimmoKM | Is there any way to not make it start? |
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| 12:14.42 | Vwake | KDE 4 gonna be against Qt4 ? |
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| 12:15.33 | PhilRod | yup |
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| 12:17.58 | S4nD3r | I created a bookmark in epiphany, and I dont know how to export this one to firefox... is it possible :??? |
| 12:18.22 | oGALAXYo | S4nD3r: epiphany nor firefox are related to kde. |
| 12:18.48 | oGALAXYo | you can export konqueror xbel bookmarks fo firefox or mozilla or opera |
| 12:18.56 | oGALAXYo | but that probably doesnt solve your question |
| 12:19.05 | oGALAXYo | you need to ask in a gnome channel on another network. |
| 12:20.10 | S4nD3r | thanks |
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| 12:22.06 | Curtman | Hopefully this isn't too OT, but in K3B when I left click anything it gets added to my project. Can I make it behave normally and just select the file, and not add them until I drag them to the bottom? |
| 12:22.32 | _imy | Curtman: globably turn off single-click |
| 12:22.50 | Curtman | JohnFlux, Yes, how would I do that please. |
| 12:23.03 | JohnFlux | Curtman: in the kcontrol |
| 12:23.15 | JohnFlux | search for single click there |
| 12:23.19 | Curtman | JohnFlux, Okay thanks. |
| 12:23.26 | JohnFlux | change to double click |
| 12:23.55 | PhilRod | it's under peripherals->mouse |
| 12:24.23 | Curtman | Got it, thanks guys.. |
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| 12:41.25 | DeadS0ul | oh yeah! =D |
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| 12:44.10 | dec0ding | http://www.kde-apps.org/content/pre2/27512-2.png again, can u help me find the theme this guy is using, and if possible someone to recognize the font? |
| 12:46.16 | DeadS0ul | it looks similar to plastic =| |
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| 12:46.47 | rabbit7 | hey there i have a problem with kde |
| 12:46.54 | DeadS0ul | font seems like arial |
| 12:47.23 | rabbit7 | i set klipper to synchronize contents of clipboard and the selection |
| 12:47.40 | rabbit7 | and now if i try to copy&paste something the whole system slows down |
| 12:47.52 | rabbit7 | the app. which i tried to paste in freezes for like a minute or so |
| 12:48.20 | rabbit7 | if i then again choose seperate clipboard and selection everything is fine again |
| 12:48.40 | rabbit7 | can anyone gimmy a hint where the problem could be ? |
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| 12:52.27 | rabbit7 | anyone ? klipperproblem ?? |
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| 12:54.50 | dec0ding | rabbit7: what system, what kde version? |
| 12:54.53 | rabbit7 | i am using the latest kde build 3.5 |
| 12:55.04 | rabbit7 | i had the problem since 3.4 though |
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| 12:55.24 | rabbit7 | xorg v.6.8.2-r5 |
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| 12:56.18 | rabbit7 | dec0ding: gentoo 2.6.12 kernel |
| 12:56.23 | dec0ding | ahh |
| 12:56.35 | rabbit7 | any clue ? |
| 12:56.51 | dec0ding | nope but if u had the problem before I'd suggest u examine the system |
| 12:56.53 | dec0ding | itself |
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| 12:57.47 | rabbit7 | so you dont think this problem might be kde related ? |
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| 13:01.15 | JohnFlux | How do I type japanese in kde>? |
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| 13:02.36 | rabbit7 | dec0ding: i just deleted both config file and dir in .kde/ things seem to perform better now.. |
| 13:02.43 | sredna | J-a-p-a-n-e-s-e |
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| 13:03.34 | sredna | JohnFlux: There is support for some of the input aid too, and specialized apps to support that on kde-apps.org |
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| 13:04.58 | DeadS0ul` | dammit |
| 13:05.20 | JohnFlux | sredna: nothing built into kde? |
| 13:05.58 | sredna | JohnFlux: I'm really not the right person to ask. I know that there is support for xim in katepart for example |
| 13:06.05 | sredna | But not how to use it |
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| 13:07.51 | dfd | Hello |
| 13:08.19 | dfd | is it normal in kde 3.5 that the hidden bar appear only moving the mouse in the bottom-left corner? |
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| 13:09.06 | Novell | that's a bit stupid default setting, yes |
| 13:09.45 | SMiLeaf | dfd: there is an option to change that... in 3.5 that option was made independent of another option.. |
| 13:09.58 | Novell | dfd: right click on the panel -> Configure Panel -> Hiding -> uncheck Raise when the pointer touches the screen's: |
| 13:11.40 | dfd | okay |
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| 13:12.39 | dfd | however I like it.. the problem was that the first time I thought I broke something in the upgrade :-) |
| 13:13.02 | dfd | I had to move the pointer a lot to understand why sometimes it appeared and sometimes not :> |
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| 13:24.26 | dec0ding | http://www.recreantview.org/songs/jonobacon-freesoftwaresong.ogg Rofl |
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| 13:31.13 | geek_ | anybody familiar with kdevelop? |
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| 13:31.46 | oGALAXYo | geek_: yeah most people in #kdevelop surely are :) |
| 13:31.48 | geek_ | i have avery long time kdevelop start up time .. any clues on that? |
| 13:32.03 | Zombie | Greetings. How do I tell Konqueror's Samba client to use Kerberos authentication rather than User name and password? |
| 13:32.04 | geek_ | #kdevelop is quiet :D |
| 13:32.20 | oGALAXYo | geek_: what kde version, what distro ? |
| 13:32.27 | geek_ | kde 3.5 fc4 |
| 13:32.28 | Zombie | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:32.39 | geek_ | it wasn't like this before |
| 13:32.49 | oGALAXYo | geek_: define 'long' ... how long ? |
| 13:32.50 | DeadS0ul` | Zombie: whoa, damn how'd you do that? |
| 13:32.57 | geek_ | long like hours |
| 13:33.23 | oGALAXYo | geek_: if it takes hours to load then you can be sure that its definately not KDE's fault :) |
| 13:33.39 | Zombie | DeadS0ul`: Extremely diifficult |
| 13:33.52 | DeadS0ul` | Zombie: I bet, I tried doing something like that before |
| 13:34.02 | geek_ | oGALAXYo: kdevelop's fault then :p |
| 13:34.07 | oGALAXYo | geek_: no.. |
| 13:34.18 | oGALAXYo | geek_: but look whether you have DMA and 32bit enabled for your harddisk. |
| 13:34.24 | DeadS0ul` | well I tried SSL + LDAP + Kerberos authentication |
| 13:34.29 | Zombie | I use Samba as my Homogeneous network file system for Linux. |
| 13:34.49 | DeadS0ul` | same here |
| 13:34.49 | Zombie | Where did you fail? |
| 13:34.55 | DeadS0ul` | so I cna use it on both windows and linux |
| 13:34.55 | geek_ | FYI, it was normal before .. unutil a crash around yesterday |
| 13:35.12 | DeadS0ul` | ...I don't recall, I don' tthink I got any of it working cos I didn't understand what I as doing, just following a how to |
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| 13:36.11 | oGALAXYo | geek_: ahh.. ok lets try this then.... a) as root enter 'ldconfig' ... b) logout of X and kde.. inside console only (no X running).. delete all tmp stuff in /tmp and delete the temp stuff in the home .kde dir (not your settings only the links refering to /tmp).. delete the .mcop dir in the homedir as well |
| 13:36.25 | Zombie | I haven't involved SSL yet or |
| 13:36.25 | oGALAXYo | geek_: c) then enter 'ldconfig' as root again and start kde again. |
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| 13:36.42 | oGALAXYo | geek_: d) make sure there's enough space on your harddisk as well... |
| 13:36.48 | Zombie | I also use Kerberos for SSH Support. |
| 13:37.47 | geek_ | oGALAXYo: i'll try .. |
| 13:37.49 | Zombie | So I can safely and passwordlessly secure shell from machine to machine/ |
| 13:39.01 | Zombie | How do I make Konqueror use Kerberos? |
| 13:39.35 | oGALAXYo | Zombie: what distro ? |
| 13:39.43 | Zombie | Mandriva 2006 |
| 13:40.07 | oGALAXYo | Zombie: i think you should forward your request to the mandriva people then, they know best howto solve your problem with kerberos. |
| 13:40.28 | Zombie | Kerberized Samba works at the command line. |
| 13:40.32 | Zombie | I just go: |
| 13:40.46 | oGALAXYo | thats nice |
| 13:40.55 | oGALAXYo | but you still should forward your problem to the mandriva people. |
| 13:40.58 | Zombie | smbclient -k //kefka/zombie |
| 13:41.05 | oGALAXYo | they might provide help, support and fixed tarballs for you. |
| 13:41.31 | Zombie | All I need to kn now is how to pass that -k parameter to Konqueor. |
| 13:41.44 | oGALAXYo | hmm tried asking that in #konqueror ? |
| 13:42.18 | Zombie | No.... But its like, it prompts me for a User name and password, and its not supposed tp./ |
| 13:42.23 | Zombie | No.... But its like, it prompts me for a User name and password, and its not supposed to. |
| 13:43.01 | oGALAXYo | Zombie: i dont know an answer to your problem, i hoped you figured out by now thats why i redirected you to mandriva people or the #konqueror channel. no need to dig any further in your question here :) |
| 13:43.15 | DeadS0ul` | so it basically uses certs ? |
| 13:43.19 | oGALAXYo | and it doesnt look like others know a solution for oyur problem. |
| 13:44.47 | Zombie | Its supposed to give me Yes. |
| 13:44.52 | Zombie | Yes. |
| 13:45.00 | dfd | bye |
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| 13:46.04 | DeadS0ul` | the control center's settings only seem to allow username and password authentication and not kerberos =| |
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| 13:48.32 | Zombie | I was thinking maybe an Alias might work. |
| 13:50.51 | DeadS0ul` | strange though |
| 13:51.07 | DeadS0ul` | I was under the impression that keberos required a password for login |
| 13:51.11 | DeadS0ul` | didn't think it was all certs |
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| 13:52.14 | DeadS0ul` | bbs, dinner |
| 13:52.37 | Zombie | It does. |
| 13:52.47 | Zombie | At least initially. |
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| 13:57.10 | Samus_Aran | does anyone know why my taskbar disappears every time I load KDE ? it used to be auto-hidden on the left |
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| 13:57.36 | Samus_Aran | I can't find any way to get it back |
| 13:57.52 | PhilRod | first, check it's still running: "ps auxww | grep kicker" |
| 13:58.18 | Samus_Aran | kicker [kdeinit] |
| 13:58.49 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: what kde version ? |
| 13:58.56 | Samus_Aran | it's running apparently, just not "there" |
| 13:59.46 | Samus_Aran | 3.5.0 |
| 13:59.51 | PhilRod | must be autohidden. Try the bottom corners of the screen to make it reappear |
| 14:01.17 | Samus_Aran | my spouse apparently managed to put it underneath another panel |
| 14:02.27 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: an alternative would be logging out of kde and deleting the 'kickerrc' file in .kde/share/config or something. |
| 14:02.36 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: it should 'return your panel to default' |
| 14:02.53 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: alternatively in control-center's panel section press 'default' button and then apply. |
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| 14:18.05 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: and ? |
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| 14:32.37 | fanti | hey! i'm looking for an application which shows the translation (english-german) of a word which was marked with cursor? |
| 14:33.11 | PhilRod | you could twiddle klipper to do it |
| 14:33.23 | PhilRod | well, if you knew an English-German translation site (leo) |
| 14:33.43 | oGALAXYo | fangel: im konqueror url teil einfach 'leo:<wort>' eingeben. |
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| 14:35.08 | oGALAXYo | fanti: war an dich gerichtet sorry :) |
| 14:36.35 | fanti | oGALAXYo: das ist mir zu umstaendlich. und ich hatte mal ein programm, dass die uebersetzung direkt als "tooltip" am cursor angezeigt hatte. |
| 14:36.51 | oGALAXYo | für kde ? |
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| 14:36.56 | fanti | oGALAXYo: ja |
| 14:36.58 | Gatorade | Is there an english version of this channel? |
| 14:37.11 | oGALAXYo | Gatorade: you are inside it. |
| 14:37.16 | Gatorade | oh lol |
| 14:37.35 | oGALAXYo | Gatorade: that was the german edition of english :) |
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| 14:43.55 | Zombie | KDE is really blowing a hole in my SSO |
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| 14:46.47 | fanti | uhm i'm looking for something like ktranslator http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=2810 which works with my kde 3.4.3 (debian/unstable) ? |
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| 14:47.36 | Zombie | KDE is blowing holes in my SSO Project. |
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| 14:48.13 | oGALAXYo | Zombie: which means ? |
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| 14:49.59 | Zombie | Becausee I can't get KDE to pass the ticket./ |
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| 14:51.49 | PhilRod | Zombie: it looks like using kerberos migt be a compile-time setting |
| 14:52.23 | Zombie | You misunderstand. |
| 14:52.55 | PhilRod | probably :-) I don't know anything about samba or kerberos |
| 14:53.08 | fangel | oGALAXYo: ehhhh, why do you write it to me? |
| 14:53.24 | PhilRod | http://websvn.kde.org/branches/KDE/3.5/kdebase/kioslave/smb/kio_smb_auth.cpp?rev=457728&view=auto |
| 14:53.53 | Zombie | Its nothing to do with the compiling of KDE. |
| 14:53.57 | Zombie | Its passing configs. |
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| 14:54.39 | PhilRod | but it looks in that file like you can only have kerberos auth if it was compiled in, and you might (or might not) have it compiled in |
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| 14:57.16 | oGALAXYo | fangel: broken nick complete |
| 14:57.23 | fangel | np |
| 14:58.25 | DeadS0ul` | back |
| 14:58.56 | Samus_Aran | oGALAXYo: the problem was solved, they had hidden it behind another panel (which doesn't seem like it should even be possible, but it is) |
| 14:59.16 | DeadS0ul` | Zombie: any luck with keberos and konq? |
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| 14:59.34 | Zombie | I think so. |
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| 14:59.58 | oGALAXYo | Samus_Aran: oh great.. |
| 15:00.49 | Samus_Aran | they don't remember moving it, heh. I now have their panels in "locked" state, so that should prevent further such incidents, heh |
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| 15:04.01 | DeadS0ul` | Zombie: I guess the setting is under local network browsing, but it doesn't have any settings for keberos |
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| 15:10.18 | DeadS0ul` | brb, restarting X |
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| 15:13.42 | DeadS0ul | god dammit |
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| 15:18.19 | Zombie | It works. |
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| 15:21.54 | DeadS0ul | Zombie: you got it wokring? |
| 15:22.11 | Zombie | I'm I think so. |
| 15:22.29 | Zombie | I htink it auto-aquires the ticket= |
| 15:22.30 | DeadS0ul | how so? |
| 15:22.34 | DeadS0ul | =D |
| 15:22.36 | ArthurB | Hi, does anyone know of an app that allow editing CD, DVD case, cover etc for printing? |
| 15:22.42 | Zombie | smb4k still doesnm't work |
| 15:23.56 | oGALAXYo | ArthurB: glabels |
| 15:24.08 | ArthurB | no klabels? |
| 15:24.13 | oGALAXYo | sorry. sadly not. |
| 15:24.18 | oGALAXYo | try kbarcode |
| 15:24.24 | oGALAXYo | but its not half as good as glabels. |
| 15:24.26 | ArthurB | I thought k3b did it |
| 15:24.37 | oGALAXYo | dunno i dont use k3b |
| 15:25.06 | ArthurB | koffice could also do it with the proper template |
| 15:27.24 | sredna | ArthurB: I use scribus for that. There are templates for most of it at the scribus website |
| 15:29.58 | ArthurB | ok thanks |
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| 15:32.20 | mariux | how come the calc button in kalzium doesnt do anything? |
| 15:32.36 | mariux | i inputed this: "aH2O + bCO2 -> cH2CO3" (found it in 'help') |
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| 15:34.53 | ArthurB | hum what template do you have to pick with glabels for dvd cases ? |
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| 15:35.24 | mariux | glabels doesnt sound like a kde program |
| 15:36.25 | PhilRod | mariux: there's some bug report about it that explains what it does. I think you just put "aH2O+bCO2" |
| 15:36.46 | mariux | ahh thanks, ill try that |
| 15:37.03 | ArthurB | I know but it was suggested earlier in the thread |
| 15:37.17 | ArthurB | so I hopped the person who suggested it would know |
| 15:37.30 | ArthurB | and there is no klabels to my knowledge :) |
| 15:37.39 | oGALAXYo | ArthurB: i made a custom CD template with 122 x 122 mm and centered on a sheet of paper... |
| 15:38.01 | oGALAXYo | ArthurB: you can do one with DVD's too but there's already a huge database with dozens of CD and dvd templates. |
| 15:38.24 | ArthurB | ur where ? what ? |
| 15:38.51 | oGALAXYo | inside glabels |
| 15:38.54 | oGALAXYo | you press NEW |
| 15:39.02 | oGALAXYo | and select the right thing from... |
| 15:39.04 | oGALAXYo | bah.. |
| 15:39.24 | DeadS0ul | hehe |
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| 15:40.30 | oGALAXYo | IRC as well as computers and germany is sickening me. |
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| 15:43.30 | Zombie | Why so? |
| 15:43.57 | oGALAXYo | burnout, pissed off about germany... |
| 15:43.59 | oGALAXYo | and... |
| 15:44.03 | oGALAXYo | because i say so. |
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| 15:45.41 | DeadS0ul | try hong kong and it's windows dominated companies >| |
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| 15:46.18 | oGALAXYo | they eat dogs and cats.. |
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| 15:46.41 | DeadS0ul | and pigeons evne |
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| 15:55.47 | frb-work | can I use grep on an arbitrary kio ? |
| 15:56.12 | frb-work | I'd like to recursively search all the files in an smb share |
| 15:56.36 | PhilRod | dont' think so |
| 15:56.39 | PhilRod | at least, not easily |
| 15:57.56 | PhilRod | you could do it with kio-fuse, or perhaps with some clever application of kfmclient |
| 15:58.32 | PhilRod | (you could "kfmclient download" each file you want, then grep it, script-o-matically) |
| 15:58.50 | spiderworm | hi all, kontact used to work for me but now it crashes as soon as i open it... which files in my home directory do i delete to reset |
| 15:59.27 | DeadS0ul | hmm i named a field in mysql as 'date' ..that's not good |
| 16:00.04 | PhilRod | spiderworm: don't delete anything in ~/.kde, just rename it :-) |
| 16:00.48 | PhilRod | but the file you want is probably ~/.kde/share/config/kmailrc . I've had some success with renaming that file, starting kontact, closing kontact, then putting the file back and starting kontact again |
| 16:01.08 | spiderworm | ok i'll give it a run, thanks |
| 16:01.32 | mariux | the scrolling in konqueror and now kopete just randomly breaks, should i file a bug? |
| 16:01.46 | mariux | when i change to that view and scroll up or down its just black |
| 16:02.00 | mariux | only the view i first saw is visible (and normal) |
| 16:02.09 | sredna | frb-work: Install kio_locate |
| 16:02.20 | frb-work | sredna: that will search the contents? |
| 16:02.23 | PhilRod | sredna: does that grep in files? |
| 16:02.29 | sredna | Ah, no. Sorry |
| 16:02.49 | PhilRod | frb-work: for the particular case, you just wnat to use smbmount to mount the drive, then you get grep, etc for free |
| 16:03.06 | frb-work | I was hoping to avoid that |
| 16:03.07 | sredna | Kfind has a text option, but it's probably not fast at all |
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| 16:05.27 | PhilRod | frb-work: I imagine it would be the cleanest option |
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| 16:10.47 | Synt4x_3rr0r | hello? |
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| 16:13.35 | Synt4x_3rr0r | im having trouble with KDE. My menu is all messed up. Installed Freerock Gnome so I understand that it adds a few programs and stuff. |
| 16:14.06 | Synt4x_3rr0r | but it also removed my home button in the Panel and I cant find the control center in the K-menu anymore |
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| 16:18.35 | DeadS0ul | I'm off |
| 16:18.36 | DeadS0ul | cya guys later |
| 16:19.00 | Synt4x_3rr0r | buy |
| 16:19.06 | Synt4x_3rr0r | *bye :P |
| 16:19.36 | DeadS0ul | Synt4x_3rr0r: use settings:/ |
| 16:19.52 | Synt4x_3rr0r | settings? |
| 16:19.55 | DeadS0ul | that'll get you into kcontrol |
| 16:19.55 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 16:20.03 | DeadS0ul | type it into konqui |
| 16:20.22 | spiderworm | well i have kontact working again, but mail is acting strangely... messages are constantly being removed from my inbox and then put back in |
| 16:20.49 | spiderworm | does it have something to do with anti-spam tools? |
| 16:20.51 | Synt4x_3rr0r | DeadS0ul: where should i type it in? |
| 16:21.02 | DeadS0ul | konqueror's address bar |
| 16:21.07 | Synt4x_3rr0r | wont work |
| 16:21.13 | DeadS0ul | what version are you using? |
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| 16:21.18 | Synt4x_3rr0r | of KDE? |
| 16:21.23 | DeadS0ul | yeah |
| 16:21.27 | Synt4x_3rr0r | 3.4 |
| 16:21.53 | DeadS0ul | do you know how to use the kmenu editor? |
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| 16:22.13 | Synt4x_3rr0r | yes. but when i try to add or remove something there it wont work either |
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| 16:22.46 | Synt4x_3rr0r | the only thing it saves is if i add costum icons to the different "sections" |
| 16:22.53 | zeballin3 | Help. Just installed Kanotix with kde 3.4.x. Korganizer won't 'stick' in the system tray after restarting. I've checked the right-click boxes on the icon to start the daemon. But on restart on this laptop it is not there. Knote works correclty. |
| 16:23.09 | DeadS0ul | you do hit save right? |
| 16:23.16 | Synt4x_3rr0r | ofcource :P |
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| 16:23.48 | DeadS0ul | =| |
| 16:23.52 | DeadS0ul | not sure whats' wrong then =( |
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| 16:24.01 | Synt4x_3rr0r | it's very weird thats for sure |
| 16:24.08 | DeadS0ul | true that |
| 16:24.24 | Synt4x_3rr0r | damnit, why did i have to install gnome. :( |
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| 16:24.47 | sredna | zeballin3: Does the korganizer reminder daemon show in the tray if you start it? |
| 16:25.01 | zeballin3 | sredna: yes... blue calander with bell. |
| 16:25.02 | sredna | If you start korganizer, I mean |
| 16:25.03 | DeadS0ul | I have gnome programs installed but I never had that troule |
| 16:25.06 | sredna | Yes |
| 16:25.23 | zeballin3 | sredna: yes, it shows up fine. |
| 16:25.24 | DeadS0ul | anyway I really gotta get to bed, g'nite guys |
| 16:25.31 | Synt4x_3rr0r | bed? |
| 16:25.35 | sredna | zeballin3: Do you have an ~/.xsession-errors file? |
| 16:25.37 | Synt4x_3rr0r | where do you live? :D |
| 16:26.11 | zeballin3 | sredna: let me look. (I've been using kde a long time... not a newbie... but strange things happen. Hold a sec.) |
| 16:26.50 | sredna | zeballin3: It's the kde error file, and if you have it look for related lines in the start of it |
| 16:26.59 | sredna | (the service should start with your session) |
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| 16:29.32 | shadrach | how do i get my extra button keyboard working in KDE? |
| 16:30.50 | zeballin3 | sredna: Here is the file: http://pastebin.com/499417 what are we looking for? |
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| 16:33.04 | sredna | zeballin3: If that is the entire file, nothing of that |
| 16:33.59 | zeballin3 | sredna: that's whole file. started up machine this morning. |
| 16:34.16 | ejofee_ | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
| 16:35.05 | zeballin3 | sredna: I've tried everything I can think of to get this puppy to 'stick'. The knote icon sticks there. It works on my debian tower... not on wife's lap top... same ver of kde. |
| 16:36.30 | _egon | ejofee_: Looks like that is set to hit kde-look.org, which, according to topic, is down at the moment |
| 16:36.53 | zeballin3 | sredna: I've made sure "restore prev. session" on kde session mgr. I also tried 'restore manual saved session' No help. (how do you manually save a session?) |
| 16:37.01 | sredna | zeballin3: The icon represents a kded daemon module that is used to notify you about events, not korganizer directly |
| 16:37.28 | sredna | Or maybe the daemon is running on its own, let me check |
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| 16:37.45 | sredna | Mumble |
| 16:37.50 | shadrach | how do i get my extra button keyboard working in KDE? |
| 16:38.00 | sredna | C-esc is supposed to bring on the process list |
| 16:38.17 | zeballin3 | sredna: I agree.... but it should start up on boot and display in tray... as it alwas has done for me.... until now. |
| 16:38.43 | sredna | sigh |
| 16:38.53 | sredna | The changing shortcuts is a bad idea |
| 16:39.00 | sredna | ~lart KDE |
| 16:39.09 | zeballin3 | sredna: ctl-esc works for me! |
| 16:39.31 | sredna | Maybe ksirc is the devil here, it uses c-esc for close channel |
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| 16:40.15 | zeballin3 | sredna: I'm using Konversation. |
| 16:41.35 | zeballin3 | When does the kded daemon start... via kernel or after login (via kdm/kde)? |
| 16:41.53 | oGALAXYo | after login |
| 16:42.02 | oGALAXYo | you can turn kded off from control-center i think. |
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| 16:42.21 | sredna | My scheme is odd, it uses a key I dont have |
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| 16:45.07 | zeballin3 | I don't think kded has much to do with starting the deamon. It looks like it is used to start Sycoca (http://developer.kde.org/documentation/library/kdeqt/kde3arch/ksycoca.html) |
| 16:45.41 | Skrot | KDE Daemon - triggers Sycoca database updates when needed |
| 16:45.45 | Skrot | Says so in kded --help |
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| 16:47.01 | sredna | Well, kded is hosting a bunch of modules |
| 16:47.08 | zeballin3 | What is relation between korganizer and Sycoca?? |
| 16:47.16 | sredna | Afaik the korganizer thing is such a module |
| 16:49.21 | sredna | The fact that the korganizer thingy have no item in the process list supports my pov |
| 16:50.00 | zeballin3 | sredna: does kde have 'modules' .... like kernel modules? |
| 16:50.10 | sredna | Like kded modules ;) |
| 16:50.46 | sredna | There is also kalarmd - it could be a module in that one too |
| 16:51.10 | sredna | Try if kalarmd is running maybe |
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| 16:54.30 | zeballin3 | No kalarmd running on my machine or wife's. |
| 16:55.34 | sredna | Hm, it actually has a process -- korgac |
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| 16:56.12 | sredna | I have this file: /opt/kde3.5/share/autostart/korgac.desktop |
| 16:56.20 | sredna | Do you have the equivalent? |
| 16:56.53 | zeballin3 | korgac process is running. |
| 16:57.03 | zeballin3 | let me look for file |
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| 16:58.23 | zeballin3 | debian does not put kde in opt. Let me look for autostart |
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| 16:59.24 | zeballin3 | I've got: /usr/share/autostart/korgac.desktop |
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| 16:59.39 | sredna | Yes, that |
| 16:59.48 | sredna | I wonder why it does not work then |
| 17:00.28 | sredna | Though that file has a condition that does not appear to be met on my system, so maybe in my case it's restarted by the session manager |
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| 17:01.11 | zeballin3 | I looked in the file. mostly text with some gibberish chars. |
| 17:01.17 | sredna | zeballin3: If you rightclick the icon, once started, the menu have a checkbox 'start reminder daemon at login' |
| 17:01.33 | sredna | Make sure that is checked |
| 17:01.33 | zeballin3 | sredna: did that long time ago. both are checked. |
| 17:01.44 | zeballin3 | First thing I looked at. |
| 17:01.52 | sredna | Right |
| 17:02.05 | zeballin3 | (I'm an old kde guy!!... that's why this has be baffled.) |
| 17:02.39 | zeballin3 | There is also a check box on menu editor that says "put in system tray" but that did not work either. (probably not implemented.) |
| 17:03.57 | sredna | zeballin3: Try add 'Autostart=true' to the General group of ~/.kde/share/cofig/korgacrc |
| 17:04.25 | sredna | zeballin3: Iiutc that will explicitly enable autostarting the process |
| 17:04.48 | zeballin3 | ok, back in a few secs. |
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| 17:13.03 | johnf | Is dcop being replaced with dbus??? from a newbie! |
| 17:17.16 | zeballin3 | sredna: autostart was already in korgacrc on laptop. Not in my machine. I took it out of lap. no change. I put it back. Good try though! |
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| 17:19.04 | sredna | zeballin3: I'm out of ideas for now |
| 17:19.18 | anymo | hello |
| 17:19.33 | anymo | could anyone tell me how to change icon size in kmenu? |
| 17:21.54 | anymo | when I login as root somehow I get small icons... and as regular user I have some big icons.... |
| 17:22.14 | anymo | I haven't found any icon size option for kmenu anywhere |
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| 17:45.11 | eduedix | how can i make konversation warn me when i receive new message ? i meant like red alarm in xchat |
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| 17:48.56 | sam^ | hi |
| 17:49.47 | mariux | http://stud.ntnu.no/~mariusst/bilder/skjerm/fonts.png which fontrendering do you think is the best? |
| 17:50.48 | oGALAXYo | 3rd |
| 17:51.34 | mariux | linux wins :P |
| 17:51.47 | mariux | first is cleartype windows and second is normal windows |
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| 17:51.49 | straw | s/Penium/Pentium |
| 17:54.37 | EvilGuru | why do people always forget the closing '/' |
| 17:54.51 | straw | oh. oops :) |
| 17:55.04 | straw | s/Penium/Pentium/ |
| 17:55.26 | mariux | straw that was wrong you have to repair you last post |
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| 17:55.38 | EvilGuru | yep |
| 17:55.43 | mariux | s/s\/Penium\/Pentium/s\/Penium\/Pentium\// |
| 17:55.51 | EvilGuru | better |
| 17:55.52 | straw | lol |
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| 17:56.08 | EvilGuru | isn't perl great? |
| 17:56.09 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> "Novell Open-Sources Major Linux Security Program" |
| 17:56.10 | oGALAXYo | <oGALAXYo> now its not secure anymore :) |
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| 17:57.06 | MegaByte | Hello |
| 17:57.17 | MegaByte | I'm using KDE 3.5 and kmenuedit doesn't work |
| 17:57.23 | MegaByte | the changes aren't applied |
| 17:57.34 | MegaByte | I've installed it on Slackware linux 10.2 |
| 17:58.16 | mariux | MegaByte: you have to hit "save" |
| 17:58.32 | MegaByte | mariux, I did... |
| 17:58.39 | MegaByte | mariux, yet nothing |
| 17:58.42 | straw | then run kbuildsycoca |
| 17:58.48 | mariux | sure you didnt miss the button? :) |
| 17:59.01 | MegaByte | absolutely |
| 17:59.08 | MegaByte | what does kbuildsycoca do? |
| 17:59.16 | mariux | but yes, run kbuildsycoca |
| 17:59.18 | carsten | it builds the sycoca :) |
| 17:59.30 | straw | kbuildsycoca --help |
| 17:59.33 | mariux | systemcomponentcache? |
| 17:59.38 | MegaByte | yay! |
| 17:59.40 | MegaByte | It worked |
| 17:59.48 | MegaByte | what did it do? |
| 17:59.50 | mariux | you shouldnt have to do it manually though |
| 17:59.59 | straw | magical spells |
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| 18:01.36 | MegaByte | wtf |
| 18:01.44 | MegaByte | they're all back again |
| 18:01.45 | MegaByte | :P |
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| 18:03.36 | MegaByte | all the default configuration is back again |
| 18:03.42 | MegaByte | why is this happening? |
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| 18:11.42 | *** topic/#kde is Latest releases: stable: 3.5. See www.kde.org | kde-look and kde-apps are down | KDE FAQ: http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/ | Please don't flood the channel, use a paste service: http://rafb.net/paste | Please state your distribution and KDE version when asking questions | $OS vs $OS flamewars tiring, don't even *start* you will be banned. That goes for KDE vs Gnome too. |
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| 18:13.01 | sredna | Auch, crash |
| 18:16.05 | carsten | sredna: if you give me the BR-number I will add that to the changelog |
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| 18:17.04 | Chamwork` | hey guys, I'm having an issue with Kontact and Imap, not sure if it's a problem with the latest kmail, or because I just installed SP2 on exchange 2003. But kmail/kontact sigterm when trying to access mail through imap |
| 18:17.07 | sredna | carsten: Let me see if I can find it |
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| 18:18.39 | carsten | sredna: if you find any oter fixed bug I will all add them to the changelog |
| 18:18.50 | carsten | I hope we can make the changelog for 3.5.1 as complete as possilbe |
| 18:19.01 | sredna | carsten: I fixed a bunch of bugs during the last weeks |
| 18:19.44 | carsten | well, if they have bugnumbers give them to me :-) |
| 18:20.12 | Chamwork` | does my issue sound familiar? |
| 18:20.41 | carsten | sredna: hey, I saw a kate-bug today which is in the kdesktop-section |
| 18:20.44 | carsten | gimme a minute |
| 18:20.51 | sredna | 118743 |
| 18:21.15 | Chamwork` | system-supplied DSO at 0xffffe000' has disappeared; keeping its symbols. <-- get this in the backtrace |
| 18:21.38 | oGALAXYo | 0xdeadbeef |
| 18:21.40 | oGALAXYo | would be funnier |
| 18:22.08 | sredna | Distinguesed service order? |
| 18:22.13 | sredna | Ui |
| 18:22.15 | mariux | oGALAXYo: but what is the longest work you can write on a calculator (by turning it on its head) ? :) |
| 18:22.23 | mariux | s/work/word/ |
| 18:22.23 | carsten | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119703 |
| 18:22.33 | sredna | carsten: Let me look |
| 18:22.35 | carsten | sredna: I think you should make it a katebug |
| 18:22.55 | Chamwork` | what can I do? I can't read my emails..lol |
| 18:22.58 | straw | apt is on the crack |
| 18:23.00 | Chamwork` | it just opens and closes |
| 18:23.02 | mariux | LESEESEL |
| 18:24.10 | sredna | Hm, bugs.kde.org should use ajax to change the component menu for bugs when changing the product |
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| 18:24.23 | taupter | join #kde-devel |
| 18:24.28 | taupter | ooops |
| 18:25.36 | carsten | sredna: fixed here: http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5to3_5_1.php |
| 18:25.43 | Chamwork` | dang...can i change the settings for kmail so it doesn't connect to imap by default? |
| 18:26.02 | carsten | sredna: so I already added 3 bugs you did in Kate :-) |
| 18:26.06 | sredna | carsten: I can compile a list for you if you have a bit of patience |
| 18:26.14 | mariux | 3.5.1 is getting close? |
| 18:26.16 | carsten | sredna: sure, won't to it today anyway |
| 18:26.25 | carsten | mariux: fix is in 2 weeks I think |
| 18:26.31 | sredna | carsten: Realname? |
| 18:26.36 | carsten | Carsten Niehaus |
| 18:26.40 | carsten | I am the Kalzium-guy |
| 18:26.51 | mariux | carsten: great, my calc button doesnt work :) |
| 18:27.02 | carsten | Explain |
| 18:27.07 | carsten | or even better, report a bug :-) |
| 18:27.19 | sredna | carsten: Ty, I'll find your mail then |
| 18:27.25 | mariux | there may already be a bug filed |
| 18:27.30 | carsten | sredna: cniehaus@kde.org |
| 18:27.44 | carsten | mariux: I fixed several calc-bugs in Kalzium last week |
| 18:27.45 | sredna | Ok |
| 18:27.50 | carsten | but that is ofcourse 3.5.1-only |
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| 18:28.29 | carsten | mariux: look here for the fixed bugs (section kdeedu) http://www.kde.org/announcements/changelogs/changelog3_5to3_5_1.php |
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| 18:29.31 | rolboh | close |
| 18:30.01 | mariux | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=117774 that is it |
| 18:30.48 | carsten | mariux: yeah, that was a nice one :) I needed to introduce a new string for that *shame on me* |
| 18:31.05 | mariux | hehe :) |
| 18:31.32 | carsten | Now kalzium is officially bugfree |
| 18:31.46 | carsten | I know of one more bug (a crash) but I cannot fix it. I think it is a bug somewhere in kdelib |
| 18:31.46 | carsten | s |
| 18:32.16 | carsten | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109035 <--- that one |
| 18:35.47 | sredna | carsten: I commented on http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119703 |
| 18:35.51 | sredna | And took it over |
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| 18:36.11 | sredna | Thanks for bringing it to my attention |
| 18:37.00 | carsten | yeah, had done it early if you had a more verbose name :) |
| 18:37.04 | carsten | irc-nickname that is |
| 18:37.11 | carsten | didn't know you are you :) |
| 18:37.16 | carsten | Did we meet in malaga? |
| 18:37.34 | sredna | No, I was not there |
| 18:37.36 | mariux | kalzium is great btw, just started with chemistry today :) |
| 18:37.49 | sredna | carsten: And my nick is just my first name reversed ;) |
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| 18:38.09 | carsten | mariux: thanks :) the kde4 one will rock :) Animated 3d pictures of crystalstructus, statistical games and so on |
| 18:38.18 | mariux | cool |
| 18:38.30 | carsten | sredna: ah, didn't see it :) Call me netsrac then :) |
| 18:38.33 | mariux | carsten: but then i guess you know quite some chemistry. Why would S want to be in the H2SO4 binding? |
| 18:38.49 | mariux | S is even further away from getting a full shell, isnt it? |
| 18:39.10 | sredna | Carsten taht rof kcin ruoy egnahc ot deen duoy os ,noitelpmocotua kcin esu i |
| 18:39.41 | carsten | mariux: S can have 5 bonds |
| 18:39.47 | carsten | S has a pretty special chemistry |
| 18:39.54 | carsten | can't compare it with O |
| 18:40.01 | mariux | ahh ok |
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| 18:40.26 | mariux | because i just saw that it needed two extra electrons, but actually gets 6 from that binding |
| 18:40.45 | carsten | that is because it forms d-orbits |
| 18:40.48 | carsten | o can't do that |
| 18:40.58 | mariux | ok, thanks :) |
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| 18:43.00 | rolboh | list |
| 18:43.51 | freevir | hello |
| 18:43.57 | sredna | Hi |
| 18:45.40 | sean_micken | is there a kde dev channel? |
| 18:46.06 | HuntsMan | sean_micken: #kde-devel |
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| 18:46.30 | sean_micken | HuntsMan: thank you. |
| 18:46.56 | vitamin | anyone knows how do I stop kdesktop from using /dev/snd? (I've disabled sounds in Sys Notifications) but "lsof | grep /dev/snd still shows kdedesktop using it! |
| 18:47.32 | freevir | I've problem to access photos on my digital camera; it's a sony dsc-p10 and requires PTP mode (I turned this in Setup menu on...), in normal mode everything is fine - the camera is regarded as a usb stick; but when in PTP Mode I get a new icon on the desktop "Camera", what's actually a link to media:/camera, there is the name of my camera - I click it and gets in "camera:/", again the name of the camera - If I click nothing happens; digikam |
| 18:47.32 | freevir | can't autodetect my camera, so I choosed it - but a connection cant be established - any hints? |
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| 18:49.56 | sredna | freevir: Try asking in #digikam |
| 18:51.30 | freevir | sredna, ah thx ;) |
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| 19:19.47 | vitamin | So does anyone knows why kdesktop needs /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p? When I told it "Disable sounds!". Or use "KDE sound system"? |
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| 19:31.12 | SimAtWork | http://news.google.ca/url?sa=T&ct=ca/3-0&fd=R&url=http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story.asp%3Fguid%3D%257B4B7CE99F-964E-44E5-9B52-D4C619E2F171%257D%26siteid%3Dgoogle&cid=1103431198 |
| 19:31.21 | SimAtWork | that link is crashing konqueror |
| 19:31.23 | SimAtWork | well kontact anyhow |
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| 19:36.27 | Authority | I keep getting pop-ups to enable "Mouse Keys". I keep selecting "Deactivate all AccessX features" but it still pops up over and over again. How can I disable all accessibility features once and for all? |
| 19:37.22 | SimAtWork | and the bug wizzard isn't working. |
| 19:37.27 | SimAtWork | Authority: use kcontrol |
| 19:38.02 | sredna | Authority: In the accessability control panel you can deactivate activation gestures |
| 19:38.28 | SimAtWork | i wish you could get to kcontrol sub components with links |
| 19:38.29 | SimAtWork | that'd be sweet |
| 19:38.37 | SimAtWork | like kcontrol:/accessibility |
| 19:38.45 | SimAtWork | then we could paste links to it for people to follow |
| 19:38.56 | SimAtWork | and even include it in documentation |
| 19:39.24 | Authority | sredna: All the activation gestures are already disabled |
| 19:39.33 | Authority | and have been |
| 19:40.17 | sredna | SimAtWork: Try settings:/ |
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| 19:40.50 | SimAtWork | cool |
| 19:41.22 | SimAtWork | sredna: it's bringing up gnome stuff though |
| 19:41.38 | sredna | SimAtWork: In konqueror? |
| 19:41.45 | SimAtWork | yah |
| 19:42.06 | SimAtWork | the keyboard brings up the gnome keyboard config |
| 19:42.07 | SimAtWork | the mouse works proper |
| 19:42.08 | sredna | SimAtWork: Not here |
| 19:42.17 | sredna | Which is not suprosing, as I have 0 gnome installed |
| 19:42.25 | SimAtWork | i have both |
| 19:42.28 | SimAtWork | but that is weird |
| 19:42.53 | sredna | What do you type? |
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| 19:43.15 | SimAtWork | settings:/Peripherals/ |
| 19:43.18 | SimAtWork | then click on keyboard |
| 19:43.34 | SimAtWork | settings:/Peripherals/Keyboard that does it to |
| 19:43.39 | sredna | And that leads to some gnome thing? |
| 19:43.45 | SimAtWork | yup |
| 19:45.18 | sredna | Hm, on my system, if I type 'settings:/Periphals/Mouse' it asks to what to do with it and claims that it is a plain text file |
| 19:45.19 | SimAtWork | does that url i posted crash konqueror for you guys too? |
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| 19:45.37 | SimAtWork | sredna: that happened when i did keyboard and i said open and then it did the right thing |
| 19:45.41 | oGALAXYo | SimAtWork: can you tell me what fontconfig version you have installed ? |
| 19:45.42 | SimAtWork | sredna: i think it needs work :) |
| 19:45.45 | sredna | Clicking the icon brings up the kcm moule |
| 19:45.53 | SimAtWork | oGALAXYo: i can if you tell mehow to find out, i hae no idea. |
| 19:45.54 | oGALAXYo | SimAtWork: that crashes appear due to fontconfig problems.. |
| 19:46.33 | sredna | It definately needs work |
| 19:46.38 | oGALAXYo | SimAtWork: there are a) some recent fixes for crashes in konqueror (for complex pages + video) and b) fontconfig issues with older 2.3.2 fontconfig versions that lead to konqueror crashes.. (generally kde).. |
| 19:46.46 | oGALAXYo | they get triggered and crash |
| 19:46.54 | SimAtWork | sredna: click "open with (whatever it suggests) |
| 19:46.56 | SimAtWork | for me it's kwrite |
| 19:46.57 | sredna | And if there is a clash with the gnome thingy, we need cooperation through fd.o |
| 19:46.57 | SimAtWork | and then it works |
| 19:47.24 | sredna | SimAtWork: :o |
| 19:47.27 | SimAtWork | i am using fontconfig 2.2.3 |
| 19:47.29 | sredna | How embarrassing... |
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| 19:51.53 | sredna | SimAtWork: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119878 |
| 19:51.55 | SimAtWork | oGALAXYo: so you think i should use 2.3.2 ? |
| 19:52.41 | SimAtWork | sredna: you spelled peripherals wrong |
| 19:52.47 | sredna | Sigh |
| 19:53.00 | sredna | That is unfixable |
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| 19:54.09 | sredna | What a stupid word |
| 19:54.22 | SimAtWork | how come when you add a bug it becomes "new" when i add it it becomes "UNVERIFIED" or something. |
| 19:54.39 | SimAtWork | it is a stupid word, way too many leetters. |
| 19:54.51 | sredna | SimAtWork: Because of my karma |
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| 19:56.21 | SimAtWork | how do you view your karma |
| 19:56.27 | SimAtWork | and what sort of things affect your karma? |
| 19:56.39 | sredna | SimAtWork: It's a pink light that surrounds your body |
| 19:56.51 | sredna | It's affected by inner peace |
| 19:57.07 | SimAtWork | being a boy i think i'd rather have a light blue light. |
| 19:57.15 | sredna | Of course having a cvs account helps too |
| 19:57.23 | sredna | Svn account, even, these days |
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| 19:57.36 | zeballin3 | sredna: I'm back with korganizer system tray thing. The icon is really a daemon for a program called korgac. If you start this at a command like (NO root needed) up pos the icon in the tray. Thus it is NOT getting started at session start. |
| 19:58.38 | sredna | zeballin3: Uhm, I believe it's beeing started by the session manager in my case, but let me see if there is a korgacrc in my session |
| 19:58.50 | zeballin3 | On my tower machine korgac is NOT in autostart folder. So WHAT config file determines what daemons are started? |
| 19:58.58 | annma | hi! |
| 19:59.07 | straw | hi! |
| 19:59.22 | zeballin3 | How does session mgr know what to start? |
| 19:59.35 | zeballin3 | Must be a config file for that?? |
| 20:01.08 | sredna | zeballin3: It uses ksmserverrc |
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| 20:01.39 | sredna | No korgac in there |
| 20:02.04 | Lordveda | I need to ask about attitude of KDE and nvidia xorg driver |
| 20:02.21 | annma | attitiude? |
| 20:02.39 | annma | Lordveda: in what regard? |
| 20:02.52 | Lordveda | when I use nvidia driver with xorg 6.8 and login a KDE session I find the fonts to be very small |
| 20:03.09 | annma | check your dpi |
| 20:03.20 | sredna | Bah |
| 20:03.23 | annma | and also use kcontrol |
| 20:03.29 | sredna | Building kde is broken |
| 20:03.29 | annma | change your settings |
| 20:03.30 | benJIman | xdpyinfo | grep resolution |
| 20:03.32 | Lordveda | this is not the case with the non-nvidia driver |
| 20:03.44 | annma | Lordveda: and should it be kde fault? |
| 20:04.08 | Lordveda | annma: I am not saying it is KDE's fault |
| 20:04.16 | zeballin3 | sredna: no korgac in my config either. Then the problem could be with the session manager not saving. I tried doing a manual save /restore but that didn't work either. |
| 20:04.22 | annma | so wat exactly are you saying Lordveda |
| 20:04.24 | Lordveda | I am wondering what is that attitude origin might be caused |
| 20:04.44 | zeballin3 | I suppose I could put korgac in autostart. |
| 20:04.47 | annma | Lordveda: as we said do xdpyinfo | grep resolution and paste here |
| 20:04.53 | Lordveda | ok |
| 20:05.18 | annma | then you'll do that without your driver |
| 20:05.29 | sredna | zeballin3: Please try |
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| 20:05.40 | sredna | zeballin3: It's a bit of a mystery :) |
| 20:05.43 | Lordveda | I am not using the nvidia driver right now |
| 20:05.57 | Lordveda | I will make xorg to use it |
| 20:05.59 | Lordveda | brb |
| 20:06.14 | annma | moment |
| 20:06.30 | annma | paste te info |
| 20:06.34 | annma | the info |
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| 20:06.52 | Knowerrors | I have a problem with my monitor, if its turned off while booting, then turned back on, the resolution and refresh rate are terrible and can't be changed, is there a way to fix this besides always having monitor on? |
| 20:07.30 | Lordveda | resolution: 90x96 dots per inch |
| 20:08.05 | annma | 90x96? |
| 20:08.14 | Lordveda | that is what is said |
| 20:08.28 | straw | Lordveda: what driver release? |
| 20:08.56 | Lordveda | now I am using the nv driver of xorg 6.8 |
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| 20:09.43 | Lordveda | X.Org version: 6.8.2 |
| 20:09.52 | annma | so with the driver what does it say? |
| 20:11.37 | Lordveda | I am going to change to the nvidia driver and c what is going to be said |
| 20:11.37 | Lordveda | first where can the dpi be changed? |
| 20:11.38 | Lordveda | I mean where in kontrol? |
| 20:11.42 | benJIman | it is controlled by your X dimension settings, or you can force it to something |
| 20:12.15 | annma | it's a xorg setting, Lordveda |
| 20:12.23 | annma | you can set a new one with startx |
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| 20:12.31 | annma | ot change the X settings |
| 20:12.46 | benJIman | :0 local /usr/X11R6/bin/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp -br vt7 - in the X servers file will force it to 100dpi |
| 20:12.48 | Lordveda | annma: I didn't mess with X settings much |
| 20:13.03 | benJIman | Lordveda: perhaps you let the nvidia installer run it's X config utility |
| 20:13.20 | Lordveda | benJIman: no |
| 20:13.36 | Lordveda | I made the configuration through the X program itself |
| 20:13.50 | Lordveda | and made the required change for the xorg.conf file |
| 20:15.50 | Lordveda | which part of xorg.conf could be changed to use the proper dpi to be 100? |
| 20:16.13 | Lordveda | I am going to restart X to use nvidia and then re-enter the channel |
| 20:16.16 | Lordveda | Peace |
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| 20:18.20 | Lordveda | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:18.37 | Lordveda | that is the dpi that is used with nvidia driver |
| 20:19.10 | Lordveda | any way to change that dumm dpi? |
| 20:19.30 | oGALAXYo | Lordveda: here http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=103840 |
| 20:19.38 | oGALAXYo | Lordveda: that helps you setting up proper DPI |
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| 20:24.15 | Lordveda | This bug didn't provide an answer to the bug, the question is how to correct that condition? |
| 20:24.44 | annma | DPI is not a KDE matter unfortunately |
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| 20:26.09 | Lordveda | how to solve that problem through xorg? |
| 20:26.55 | annma | Lordveda: #xorg? |
| 20:27.05 | Lordveda | annma: ok |
| 20:27.10 | Lordveda | I will try xorg |
| 20:29.24 | straw | Lordveda: what nvidia driver release? (not nv) |
| 20:29.43 | Lordveda | 8178 |
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| 20:30.04 | Lordveda | 1-0-8178 |
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| 20:31.14 | straw | Lordveda: open /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx-1.0.8178/html/appendix-y.html in konqueror |
| 20:31.41 | Lordveda | straw: do u mean that this problem is mentioned overthere? |
| 20:31.57 | straw | Lordveda: yes |
| 20:32.53 | straw | Option "UseEdidDpi" "False" |
| 20:33.02 | straw | Option "DPI" "96x96" |
| 20:33.15 | straw | in your xorg.conf |
| 20:34.42 | Lordveda | straw: you are cool |
| 20:34.43 | Lordveda | :) |
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| 20:34.56 | straw | heh, thanks |
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| 20:35.20 | Lordveda | any information what is that EDID thing? |
| 20:36.16 | Lordveda | How to know whether my display device provides an EDID or not? |
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| 20:38.12 | straw | Lordveda: there's a tool called read-edid |
| 20:38.31 | straw | Lordveda: or you can check your X log |
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| 20:39.32 | omi | Hello, is it possible to have profiles for KDE based on which computer I'll logged in from |
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| 20:40.30 | SimAtWork | omi: kind of |
| 20:40.44 | SimAtWork | omi: how are you logging in from different computers? |
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| 20:42.01 | SimAtWork | naoal31 |
| 20:42.02 | omi | lets say I'm using a desktop, and everything is rendered locally |
| 20:42.10 | omi | then I log out and need to use an xterm in another place |
| 20:42.20 | omi | xterms get stuff fromthe network |
| 20:42.33 | omi | and I want to send as little trafic as possible |
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| 20:43.05 | SimAtWork | omi: export KDEHOME=~/.kderemote2 |
| 20:43.08 | SimAtWork | that's how i do it |
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| 20:43.30 | SimAtWork | with nx i have a script that does that and then executes: startkde |
| 20:43.34 | mac_ | how can I change what happens when net CD/USB stick is inserted? Currently I get *two* windows that pop up, showing the contents on the media... |
| 20:43.39 | SimAtWork | btw, ifyou are doing remote stuff takea look at nx |
| 20:43.54 | mac_ | it used to be only one, and another popup which asked what to do when KDE detects new media insertion... |
| 20:44.07 | mac_ | s/net/new/ |
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| 20:48.01 | Lordveda | straw: are there known dpi to be used to get proper sized fonts? |
| 20:48.21 | Lordveda | the dpi has increased but not to the desired size |
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| 20:48.47 | Lordveda | dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (542x406 millimeters) |
| 20:48.48 | Lordveda | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:48.50 | annma | dpi should be 75x75 or 100x100 |
| 20:48.57 | annma | ^^ standards |
| 20:48.59 | omi | SimAtWork, then I would have to resync some changes made and that is what I do not want to do |
| 20:49.01 | straw | Lordveda: 75x75 and 96x96 are fairly standard |
| 20:49.12 | straw | or 100x100 |
| 20:49.15 | annma | :) |
| 20:49.16 | omi | I just would like certain set of (selectable) features to be stored differently |
| 20:49.23 | Lordveda | straw: I have set it to 96x96 |
| 20:49.31 | Lordveda | but still get small font sizes |
| 20:49.40 | SimAtWork | omi: well then you need to create links and a diff tree and change the linking based on what you are doing. |
| 20:49.41 | omi | if such system doesn't exist where could I ask for it |
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| 20:49.51 | SimAtWork | omi: i don't think it's a very good idea nor do i think it will work out very well. |
| 20:49.51 | annma | in KControl, what font do you use and what size? |
| 20:50.08 | ninniuz | hi I have a problem with KNode |
| 20:50.14 | straw | Lordveda: did you add the options i gave to your xorg.conf? |
| 20:50.33 | ninniuz | I just installed it through a deb package but I cannot edit any configuration nor add any account |
| 20:51.06 | Lordveda | straw: yes |
| 20:51.43 | straw | Lordveda: hm, whups. try Option "DPI" "96 x 96" as opposed to Option "DPI" "96x96" :/ |
| 20:51.45 | annma | Lordveda: so in KControl, what font and what size? |
| 20:51.50 | omi | SimAtWork, how's so? If the situation on day1 requires that I have bookmarks the same, but different fonts/backgrounds depending on the host; but tomorrow something else would need to be changed, I do not want to keep messing with symlinks. it becomes an unmanageable system |
| 20:51.59 | omi | especially if that needs to be done for many users |
| 20:52.05 | straw | Lordveda: the spaces must be necessary |
| 20:52.23 | SimAtWork | omi: you are proposing an unmanagable system |
| 20:52.31 | omi | uhm, how? |
| 20:52.35 | Lordveda | annma: bitsream sans and font size 12 |
| 20:52.36 | SimAtWork | omi: so that applications can have multiple possible config files, how areyou supposed to choose among them? |
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| 20:52.48 | omi | depending on the host |
| 20:52.53 | omi | (as I have said before) |
| 20:52.54 | annma | Lordveda: what screen resolution? |
| 20:53.06 | omi | and most applications will not need to use the profile system |
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| 20:53.53 | Lordveda | 1280x1024 @85Hz |
| 20:53.55 | zeballin3 | sredna: putting a link to /usr/bin/korgac in the kde autostart worked. But it's a hack... and I like to know REASONS. Obviously the session manager is not doing a good job of saving the session so that it can restore it.. |
| 20:54.27 | Lordveda | straw: so I should add spacing in 96x96? |
| 20:54.38 | straw | Lordveda: yes |
| 20:54.44 | omi | SimAtWork, let's say the variables that config file stores for some aplication needs to access a variable that IS SET to be profile dependant, then profile system is consulted for that variable |
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| 20:54.51 | Lordveda | let me try and c |
| 20:54.57 | omi | otherwise that app has no business with profile system |
| 20:55.17 | SimAtWork | omi: how do you decide which to use? |
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| 20:55.38 | goyira | hello all |
| 20:55.41 | Lordveda | brb restarting X |
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| 20:56.58 | Lordveda | straw: nothing changed |
| 20:57.16 | Lordveda | I have added the lines to the device section of the xorg.conf file |
| 20:57.16 | goyira | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.22 | Lordveda | is that the correct location? |
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| 20:58.01 | Lordveda | the xdpyinfo gives out the following information: |
| 20:58.08 | SimAtWork | goyira: try running it from konsole and see if it gives more verbose errors |
| 20:58.13 | Lordveda | dimensions: 1280x1024 pixels (542x406 millimeters) |
| 20:58.13 | Lordveda | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.16 | goyira | I did, it only gives a "KCrash: Application 'kword' crashing..." |
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| 21:00.21 | goyira | the first time i tried to run it was from a terminal and it showed some kbuildsycoca warnings related to the mime-types |
| 21:00.22 | SimAtWork | goyira: no console output? |
| 21:00.28 | sredna | zeballin3: I doubt it's the session manager, since it's not in my session either. And it allways starts here |
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| 21:00.42 | SimAtWork | goyira: did it say to re-run kbuildsyca perhaps? |
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| 21:02.11 | goyira | no, it only said that it found dsome mymetypes problems... it is good to say that i used to run gnome/gtk applications from fluxbox, and that i did not installed the hole kde, only some apps and its dependences |
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| 21:02.48 | goyira | and, btw, I'm using gentoo linux, and activated the kde and qt use variables when I started to install kde apps |
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| 21:03.32 | SimAtWork | all i can tell you is i am runing gentoo in the kde environment and kword works fine for me |
| 21:04.40 | gravos | same for me, on two machines |
| 21:04.41 | goyira | maybe i need to recompile everything with the kde and qt use flags (but if so, why all other apps works fine?) or install the whole environment |
| 21:05.03 | gravos | install the whole environment would be the first thing i would try if it is feasable in your situation |
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| 21:06.02 | Taintedhero | Ello |
| 21:06.12 | SimAtWork | hello |
| 21:06.15 | EvilGuru | hiho |
| 21:06.52 | goyira | mmm I would like not to install the hole environment because of resources problem... |
| 21:07.01 | goyira | well thanks anyway :) |
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| 21:10.37 | Sgep | Hiall |
| 21:10.41 | _root | hi! i want to enable DMA on CDROM/DVD... Can i? |
| 21:10.50 | Sgep | Can I delete kwin's stored information for particular programs? |
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| 21:11.32 | SimAtWork | i wish mac stuck with the PPC processors :( |
| 21:12.03 | _root | torvalds hate gnome? |
| 21:12.15 | Sgep | hms? |
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| 21:13.02 | Lordveda | straw: I am very thankful to you to guide me to the proper part to be read to correct my problem |
| 21:13.18 | Taintedhero | _root, come back when your not logged in as root |
| 21:13.19 | Lordveda | annma: that is addressed to you too |
| 21:13.21 | Taintedhero | never mind. |
| 21:13.36 | Sgep | Was _root actually logged on as root? |
| 21:14.31 | Taintedhero | im assuming. |
| 21:14.50 | Taintedhero | seeing how it auto names your profile based on who you are looged in as. |
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| 21:35.51 | omi | SimAtWork, 1. profile is preselected for you based on host , 2. if you have permission to do so, you can select a different profile |
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| 21:37.05 | SimAtWork | butyou're talking about creating sub profiles |
| 21:37.13 | SimAtWork | and what goes into the sub profile is highly arbritrary. |
| 21:38.46 | omi | no |
| 21:38.51 | omi | there's a llist |
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| 21:41.58 | hagabaka | damn, why is Gaim so much better than Kopete :p |
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| 21:42.21 | carsten | well, it isn't |
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| 21:42.53 | apollo2011 | hello everyone |
| 21:43.00 | treat | what's up? |
| 21:43.02 | hagabaka | it supports many things the official clients do and Kopete doesn't |
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| 21:44.39 | SimAtWork | hagabaka: like what? |
| 21:44.48 | SimAtWork | i like gaim's buddy pounce |
| 21:44.54 | SimAtWork | but that's the only feature i found that kopete doesn't have |
| 21:44.56 | hagabaka | adding myself to my contact list |
| 21:45.11 | hagabaka | and the direct connect doesn't work conveniently... |
| 21:45.39 | hagabaka | also haven't been able to respond to an invitation to chat on AIM |
| 21:46.17 | apollo2011 | What is the deal with the panel System Menu? If I open my Home Dir from that menu, it loads the path as "system:/home/". When I try to open say, an OpenOffice.org Document, it complains the path is invald, because Konqueror is passing the path as "system:/home/Document.odt" rather than "/home/<user>/Document.odt" Is there a way to get around this? Right now I have to click the Home button in Konqueror after loading the Konqueror window in "system:/ho |
| 21:46.17 | apollo2011 | me" |
| 21:46.24 | hagabaka | it's particularly annoying that Kopete pops up an error saying I can't add myself on my own list every time it connects |
| 21:47.24 | benJIman | hagabaka: you add yourself to your own list in another client? |
| 21:47.32 | hagabaka | yeah |
| 21:47.34 | benJIman | jabber and msn you can have yourself on your own list |
| 21:47.40 | hagabaka | AIM too |
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| 21:49.14 | hagabaka | apollo2011: I'm able to open URL's like system:/home/file.txt, manually by opening it from the system menu, then clicking the file |
| 21:49.57 | hagabaka | not sure why it odesn't work for you, but you could add a button to the panel to point to your home directory too |
| 21:50.18 | SimAtWork | why do you want yourself on your own list? |
| 21:50.38 | hagabaka | i could see my status and away message, etc. more conveniently |
| 21:50.43 | hagabaka | not very useful I know |
| 21:50.51 | apollo2011 | hagabaka: hmm, looks like the KDE apps don't mind it but stuff like OOo don't work |
| 21:51.16 | apollo2011 | I opened an image ok, but a .odt simply loads OOo and then no window appears with the document loaded |
| 21:51.18 | hagabaka | but I already did add myself on the server contact lists, and Kopete keeps complaining about it |
| 21:51.34 | hagabaka | oh, I guess I could remove it on other clients... |
| 21:53.25 | gmartyn | apollo2011: just got here, but are you trying to run OOo over ssh? |
| 21:53.25 | SimAtWork | or you could report the bug |
| 21:53.35 | SimAtWork | i doubt many people add themselves to their own lists. |
| 21:53.38 | hagabaka | hmm, gone |
| 21:53.47 | SimAtWork | so it's probably not reported all that often (if at all) |
| 21:53.50 | hagabaka | yeah, i'll do |
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| 21:55.40 | SimAtWork | yay annma! |
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| 22:00.54 | hagabaka | heh |
| 22:01.24 | hagabaka | "Resolution: LATER" "...won't be happening until KDE 4" |
| 22:01.41 | hagabaka | Status: RESOLVED |
| 22:01.50 | hagabaka | kind of contradictory... |
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| 22:08.22 | dec0ding | annma |
| 22:08.24 | dec0ding | hi |
| 22:08.31 | annma | hi! |
| 22:08.41 | dec0ding | you remember about my drag&drop problem with KMenu items |
| 22:08.42 | dec0ding | ? |
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| 22:09.58 | annma | yes |
| 22:10.03 | annma | did you solve it? |
| 22:10.54 | dec0ding | hehah |
| 22:10.57 | dec0ding | it wasn't problem actually |
| 22:10.59 | dec0ding | it is kde feature |
| 22:11.08 | dec0ding | when u have locked panels |
| 22:11.13 | dec0ding | u can't drag&drop items |
| 22:11.22 | annma | oh |
| 22:11.38 | dec0ding | :) |
| 22:11.44 | annma | locked panels |
| 22:11.50 | annma | i did not think about that |
| 22:11.54 | annma | good to know |
| 22:11.59 | dec0ding | :) |
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| 22:19.22 | Oleg_ | I have a question. For the 1st time ever, I saved some files to a 4.7GB DVD-R disc. The files took 4.0GB of space. The program asked me if I wanted to add more files later for a 2nd session. |
| 22:19.28 | Oleg_ | So my question is: |
| 22:20.16 | Oleg_ | if DVD-R discs are one-time recordable only, how is it possible we can save more files to them for a 2nd session? |
| 22:21.39 | zeballin3 | Hi folks. I asked this earlier this AM and no one could figure it out. If you have a moment could you read this link and maybe respond if you have a clue: http://www.kanotix.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=14392&highlight= |
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| 22:22.39 | zeballin3 | ooops... while this IS a KDE question... I meant to post it in the #kanotix group. Sorry. |
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| 22:26.40 | langenberg | Is it possible to let Konsole have real transparancy? Normally I just see a shade of the wallpaper, but I'm wondering if it can work with the composite extension (since I just got that up and running). |
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| 22:28.12 | gmartyn | xcompmgr will do it.. |
| 22:29.25 | langenberg | but with the use of Konsole or xterm? |
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| 22:31.26 | benjamindees | I seem to have lost the menu icon for kmplayer by editing some file associations in konqueror. Anyone know how I can get it back? |
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| 22:32.26 | benjamindees | debsums says the package(s) are still installed correctly |
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| 22:33.32 | benjamindees | I'll try logging out... |
| 22:33.39 | Gatorade | Odd, one Dvd iso I downloaded contained more games then the one I just installed |
| 22:34.22 | Gatorade | I should talk in suse about that actually |
| 22:34.23 | CuteAlien | hi! Is there a way to open documents in kate (from console) in the same instance (like it did in kde 3.4)? |
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| 22:34.44 | benjamindees | no luck :( |
| 22:34.50 | Gatorade | Anyone have a link to a good KDE Tutorial? |
| 22:35.09 | CuteAlien | :( |
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| 22:35.39 | gmartyn | might be a dcop command |
| 22:35.41 | Gatorade | Actually I need to make Firefox my default browser when I open up Konversation anyone know how to do that? |
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| 22:36.31 | amigrave | konqueror crashes when unchecking "Keep unread" checkbox on reader.google.com, does someone else have the problem ? |
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| 22:37.33 | Oleg_ | people, hello? |
| 22:37.36 | aton` | hi! when i click on devices in konqueror it tells me that "devices: protocol not supported"... how can i fix this? |
| 22:37.43 | Oleg_ | anybody knows the answer to my question? |
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| 22:38.21 | kjetilho | Oleg_: multi-session just means you can write to the remaining 0.7 GB |
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| 22:39.15 | benjamindees | okay I think what I did was I removed totem, which removed some mime types, but that doesn't really explain the missing menu icon... |
| 22:39.23 | Oleg_ | kjetilho: so DVD-R discs are not really one-time recordable? |
| 22:39.44 | kjetilho | only in a specific spot. this is the same as CD-R. |
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| 22:40.26 | zak | BADMAGIC |
| 22:40.27 | zak | Hi |
| 22:40.29 | zak | how are u |
| 22:40.33 | zak | do u remeeber me :) |
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| 22:41.19 | Oleg_ | kjetilho: so if I have remaining space on CD-Rs and DVD-Rs, I'll always be able to add more files to such discs? |
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| 22:43.11 | Oleg_ | wow! |
| 22:43.13 | StAnLeY^ | so, is there a bug already about konqueror 3.5 often crashing ? |
| 22:43.15 | Oleg_ | I didn't know that! |
| 22:44.22 | kjetilho | Oleg_: no, the disc must be prepared for multi-session. it will depend on your burning software if it is enabled |
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| 22:46.23 | Oleg_ | so, such discs are one-time recordable when we talk about the whole amount of space such discs provide |
| 22:47.12 | Oleg_ | I thought it meant we could record on such discs one time only no matter how much free space is left on the disc after recording |
| 22:48.29 | benjamindees | multisession lets you add to space that hasn't yet been written to |
| 22:50.19 | Oleg_ | wow! |
| 22:50.28 | Oleg_ | this is awesome |
| 22:51.21 | luser | time |
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| 22:53.25 | benjamindees | so, if I edit a .desktop file in ~/.local/share/applications, how do I reload that? |
| 22:53.25 | Oleg_ | can we ever erase data from such discs? for example, if the whole space is not filled? |
| 22:54.29 | benjamindees | you can't technically erase data, but you may be able to make it disappear or get overwritten |
| 22:55.27 | Oleg_ | overwritten? so why such discs are called dvd-r and cd-r, but not dvd-rw and cd-rw? |
| 22:55.29 | Oleg_ | wow |
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| 22:56.21 | Oleg_ | we are able to overwrite old data on dvd-rs with new data? |
| 22:56.22 | benjamindees | overwritten as in "lost forever" |
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| 22:57.14 | Oleg_ | but it's not possible to overwrite such discs with new data? |
| 22:57.19 | Oleg_ | sorry if I ask dumb things |
| 22:57.26 | Oleg_ | but I am new to this thing |
| 22:58.00 | strider | Oleg_: you cannot overwrite even on RW discs. |
| 22:58.42 | benjamindees | it's an optical disk, either it's black or white |
| 22:58.58 | benjamindees | you can overwrite white with black, but not vice-versa |
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| 22:59.34 | Oleg_ | I don't get it. |
| 22:59.36 | litb | does anyone know a good sidebar for the desktop? |
| 22:59.43 | litb | like the longhorn sidebar? |
| 22:59.52 | litb | (doesn't need to look like it) |
| 22:59.55 | Oleg_ | I replaced old data with new data on one of my CD-RW discs |
| 23:00.42 | litb | i tried to insttall ie with wine and then "Desktop Sidebar", but wine fails to do that :( |
| 23:00.51 | litb | so a native bar would be fine |
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| 23:01.26 | strider | Oleg_: yes, but to do that you had to erase (Format) the disc first. You cannot just overwrite |
| 23:01.37 | benjamindees | think of it this way: it's a white board, you have a black marker |
| 23:01.56 | benjamindees | you can write until the whole thing is black, but you can't erase |
| 23:02.09 | benjamindees | cd-rw/dvd-rw adds an eraser |
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| 23:03.28 | sorush20 | guys I have bug here could someone take a look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6922 |
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| 23:04.12 | sorush20 | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6921 |
| 23:04.32 | sorush20 | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=119890 |
| 23:04.48 | sorush20 | its not in kde4 its in 3.5 |
| 23:05.13 | Oleg_ | so, we are able to erase data from CD-RWs and put new data on them, but can't do it with CD-Rs, as far as I understand it |
| 23:05.23 | WoostaHome | I use kate (IDE/text editor), but I'd like to change the line-spacing .. does anyone know if that's actually in the kate sources, or if it's inherrited from one of the dependencies? |
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| 23:06.52 | strider | Oleg_: yes |
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| 23:07.22 | strider | Oleg_: cd RW is just a cd-r which can be used many times |
| 23:07.45 | Oleg_ | I see |
| 23:07.46 | Kovecses | cd rw are pretty cool |
| 23:07.51 | Oleg_ | thanks for explanations |
| 23:08.10 | benjamindees | you can still "erase" data from a cd-r, by just overwriting it, but you can't replace it with useful data |
| 23:08.45 | strider | np, infact just do a google search for multisession etc for a bit more detail ;) |
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| 23:12.15 | Knowerrors | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:12.17 | litb | i did accidently overwrite a file in a multisession cdrw |
| 23:12.43 | strider | heh |
| 23:12.46 | litb | it took me a drive to dd to restore the original file :) |
| 23:13.35 | litb | in fact i exctracted the first session with dd and mounted it using -oloop |
| 23:14.08 | benjamindees | yeah you really just wrote a different file someplace else with the same name |
| 23:15.05 | litb | and then, some time later, i read on man mount, that i can mount a specific session by giving mount a appropriate option :) |
| 23:15.27 | litb | and save the time i waste by using dd |
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| 23:16.40 | strider | yeah just use session= |
| 23:16.55 | Kovecses | well im on gentoo at the moment |
| 23:17.02 | Kovecses | woops wrong channel |
| 23:17.11 | strider | mount has a lot of options for diff FS |
| 23:17.23 | igotyofire | just curious if anyone here has ever used xpde? |
| 23:17.34 | litb | yes, i |
| 23:17.46 | litb | 0.5 i think |
| 23:17.48 | igotyofire | do you like? |
| 23:18.01 | strider | how was it ;) |
| 23:18.07 | litb | not really amazing |
| 23:18.18 | litb | it doesn't implement much of the xp UI |
| 23:18.40 | igotyofire | ic |
| 23:18.51 | igotyofire | went back to kde? |
| 23:18.53 | litb | but haven't looked at it a long time, things could have been changed |
| 23:19.01 | Kovecses | igotyofire: why would you use something that was trying to be like windows... arnt we trying to steer away from that |
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| 23:19.10 | litb | :) |
| 23:19.14 | igotyofire | lol yes |
| 23:19.30 | igotyofire | just kde is the only enviroment which ive used that im comfortable with |
| 23:19.30 | litb | i didn't thought of replacing kde by it. really not |
| 23:19.43 | igotyofire | but kde stopped recognizing my keyboard so now im using fluxbox |
| 23:20.13 | Kovecses | igotyofire: distro? |
| 23:20.20 | igotyofire | mandriva 2006 |
| 23:20.39 | igotyofire | not using 3.5, dont want to upgrade, atleast not at the momment |
| 23:20.41 | litb | kde sometimes doesn't react on any keys |
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| 23:21.04 | igotyofire | yes litb, even my caps lock key wont light the LED on the keyboard during KDE |
| 23:21.11 | litb | i then go to kcontrol->mouse, change anything and press apply. then the keyboard releases |
| 23:21.13 | litb | doesn |
| 23:21.24 | litb | 't have a clue about the reason |
| 23:21.40 | igotyofire | which version do you experience that in i have 3.4.2 |
| 23:21.49 | litb | 350 |
| 23:21.54 | igotyofire | ic |
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| 23:22.22 | litb | it took me some time to discover this emercency ;) |
| 23:22.43 | igotyofire | u fixed it? |
| 23:22.43 | Kovecses | mandriva blows |
| 23:23.25 | litb | well, you have to press apply on the mouse settings |
| 23:23.29 | igotyofire | lol ur opinion |
| 23:23.38 | igotyofire | on mouse settings or keyboard settings? |
| 23:23.42 | litb | mouse |
| 23:23.48 | igotyofire | ok ill try it out later |
| 23:23.54 | litb | seems to be strange |
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| 23:25.22 | litb | hmm, i think we could need EjectPressed support by mediamanager |
| 23:25.25 | sonyman | What does "theme not usable with authentication method username+password classic" mean when attempting to use KDM with certain themes? Debian Etch, KDE 3.4.3 |
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| 23:25.39 | litb | hal emits that event |
| 23:25.46 | Kovecses | mandriva discraces |
| 23:25.48 | Kovecses | kde |
| 23:25.56 | litb | just has to be handled by media:/ |
| 23:26.06 | igotyofire | lol someones got some hate |
| 23:26.29 | Kovecses | well it takes kde and turns it into this .. utter pile of crap |
| 23:27.09 | Kovecses | maybe its because they are french |
| 23:27.11 | Kovecses | lol |
| 23:27.38 | benjamindees | I seem to recall American distros getting the same criticism... |
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| 23:27.55 | litb | well, KDE took Qt and let it serve this .... powerful thing called Desktop Environment |
| 23:28.12 | litb | i think about switching to kubuntu |
| 23:28.30 | Kovecses | wait until the next release of kubuntu |
| 23:28.46 | Kovecses | when ubuntu fully supports kde |
| 23:28.53 | litb | apt-get and .deb convinced me |
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| 23:29.04 | igotyofire | if ur talking about kat which is distrubuted with mandriva |
| 23:29.06 | litb | ubuntu? |
| 23:29.08 | Kovecses | apt-get is nice |
| 23:29.08 | igotyofire | i took that out along time ago |
| 23:29.20 | igotyofire | urpmi is nice,heh |
| 23:29.26 | Kovecses | blah |
| 23:29.30 | Kovecses | gentoo |
| 23:29.48 | Kovecses | but ubuntu is nice |
| 23:30.01 | Kovecses | the next release of kubuntu will be rock solid |
| 23:30.21 | litb | will it be fully based on udev? |
| 23:30.31 | Kovecses | litb: what? |
| 23:30.36 | litb | kubuntu? |
| 23:30.41 | strider | yes, hotplug is no more |
| 23:30.50 | Kovecses | thats all in the kernel |
| 23:31.03 | strider | 2.6.15 and later |
| 23:31.05 | litb | cool, i hate hotplug and its shellscripts |
| 23:31.18 | litb | what is in the kernel? |
| 23:31.27 | Kovecses | udev |
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| 23:31.36 | litb | u=userspace |
| 23:31.41 | litb | why it should in the kernel? |
| 23:31.56 | litb | don't get it... |
| 23:32.11 | Kovecses | becuase udev is part of the linux kernel |
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| 23:32.34 | litb | in the official kernel tree? |
| 23:32.46 | aib | how can I avoid this error in the "Find in Files" function of Kate? `grep: ./trunk/src/css/.#css_qttype.cpp: No such file or directory`...ls -all == #css_qttype.cpp -> me@dream.6639:1130609775 |
| 23:32.53 | Kovecses | you bet |
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| 23:33.02 | Kovecses | unless you are using older kernels |
| 23:33.16 | litb | i use a patched 2.6.14->2.6.15 kernel |
| 23:33.47 | Kovecses | then its part of your kernel.... have you ever compiled a kernel? |
| 23:33.57 | Oleg_ | why does Windows XP say when I try to erase a file from a DVD-R disc, "You can't erase the file because the file is read-only. You can still copy new files to the disc which will replace files already on the disc" |
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| 23:33.59 | Oleg_ | ? |
| 23:34.05 | litb | Kovecses: yes, too many times |
| 23:34.15 | aib | it's a DVD-R, now RW |
| 23:34.16 | litb | at least 50x |
| 23:34.18 | aib | *not |
| 23:34.20 | Kovecses | litb: then you of all people should know about udev |
| 23:34.24 | Oleg_ | I can copy new files to it?! |
| 23:34.36 | litb | Kovecses: yes, i know about it |
| 23:34.36 | aib | yeah, -R is write-once |
| 23:34.47 | Kovecses | there is a whole section in menuconfig |
| 23:34.50 | benjamindees | Oleg_, windows is retarded |
| 23:35.00 | aib | it has nothing to do with windows. |
| 23:35.32 | litb | but "johannes@HOST1:/usr/src/linux-2.6.15> find . -name *udev*" |
| 23:35.48 | litb | returns no udev tree |
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| 23:35.56 | deever | Hi! |
| 23:36.02 | Kovecses | litb: wierd |
| 23:36.04 | Oleg_ | but Windows implies that we can replace old files on a DVD-R disc with new files |
| 23:36.30 | deever | how can i use a XMLHttpRequest from within kjscmd? |
| 23:36.35 | igotyofire | installing xfce as we speak |
| 23:36.41 | benjamindees | Oleg_, you can write a new file with the same name, which will replace the old |
| 23:36.45 | sonyman | Does anyone know the answer to my question? |
| 23:36.49 | litb | it just prints that: ./Documentation/aoe/udev-install.sh |
| 23:36.52 | Oleg_ | wow |
| 23:37.30 | litb | it seems that you have to install udev separately and the kernel only contains some rules for it |
| 23:37.41 | benjamindees | Oleg_, there's really no "wow" about it... |
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| 23:37.59 | Kovecses | sorry |
| 23:38.01 | benjamindees | Oleg_, windows is just too stupid to show you both of them |
| 23:38.50 | Kovecses | kde runs on window |
| 23:38.54 | Kovecses | j/k |
| 23:39.08 | igotyofire | lol i love how everyone hates on windows |
| 23:39.22 | Kovecses | well in a kde chatroom its expected |
| 23:39.28 | igotyofire | when i bet they are dual booting with windows ,lol hypcrites |
| 23:39.47 | Kovecses | i use vmware |
| 23:39.51 | benjamindees | I haven't booted windows in five years |
| 23:40.05 | Kovecses | w00t |
| 23:40.14 | Kovecses | i have windows in vmware for my girlfreind |
| 23:40.23 | igotyofire | no vmware, no wine, then probably wood,heh |
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| 23:40.27 | Oleg_ | hmm... so we can replace files with the same name on dvd-r discs, but can |
| 23:40.27 | igotyofire | would* |
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| 23:40.32 | litb | Kovecses: i guess the kernel will include a rule for every file in the near future |
| 23:40.33 | Oleg_ | 't burn an image |
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| 23:40.39 | litb | *every driver |
| 23:40.42 | Oleg_ | again |
| 23:40.50 | igotyofire | ok i may or may not be back gonna swtich managers |
| 23:41.05 | litb | that would kinda cool, then i don't have to write them myself |
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| 23:45.27 | Oleg_ | so we can replace files with the same name only, and the files will be usable? |
| 23:46.09 | litb | Oleg_: yes |
| 23:46.21 | litb | but the files won't be really replaced. |
| 23:46.32 | benjamindees | you understand it doesn't really "replace" them, there still are two files... |
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| 23:46.39 | igotyofire | wow this is really nice |
| 23:46.43 | litb | becuase their names equal, the user sees only the more recent file |
| 23:47.15 | litb | or, to be corrent, the latest burned file |
| 23:47.21 | litb | *correct |
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| 23:47.58 | Oleg_ | okay |
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| 23:49.58 | DirkGently | is there an alternative to nntp://news.uslinuxtraining.com? This appears to be dead |
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| 23:57.27 | Oleg_ | but if the whole dvd-r disc is filled, we cannot put files with the same name on it? |
| 23:58.00 | benjamindees | correct |
| 23:58.26 | Oleg_ | oh, I see |
| 23:58.33 | Oleg_ | it's the same as multi-session |
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| 23:59.36 | ninnghizidha | Hello! I'm looking for a way to disable the "folder-preview" in a specific folder. |
| 23:59.43 | ninnghizidha | is this possible? |
