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00:12.50 | Tiam | For using the KDE widgits in pyqt, is there another module you need to import aside from qt? |
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00:14.22 | annma | pyqt |
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00:14.35 | annma | maybe kdebindings if you want bindings |
00:15.00 | angasule | when I run k3b, I get a message saying "Could not find mime type application/octet-stream" 3 or 4 times, after I OK them, it crashes, what did I break? I've been googling for a while, but it seems to be a generic error message (qt 3.3.4, kde 3.3.2, gentoo) |
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00:15.16 | harry_ | this may not be the correct channel, please redirect if if that is the case.......... |
00:15.49 | annma | angasule: it worked before then? |
00:15.51 | harry_ | using kspread,... is it possible to populate an existing worksheet with .csv? |
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00:16.02 | annma | harry_: I expect so |
00:16.06 | annma | import |
00:16.12 | harry_ | ahhh |
00:16.25 | angasule | annma: it used to work, yes |
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00:16.59 | annma | angasule: hmm, when you start it or whne you try to burn something? |
00:17.18 | angasule | annma: I'm thinking I removed a dependency by accident or something happened when updating |
00:17.29 | angasule | annma: when starting, I only see the splash screen |
00:17.33 | annma | ask in your dstro channel then |
00:17.44 | annma | what distro is it? |
00:17.55 | angasule | annma: I did, they sent me here, it's gentoo |
00:18.01 | annma | damn! |
00:18.13 | angasule | annma: if you could at least hint me why k3b would say that, it'd help a lot |
00:18.16 | annma | damn them! they should not do that |
00:18.28 | annma | angasule: I compile kde from source |
00:18.36 | annma | I never had such problem |
00:18.43 | annma | recompile k3b |
00:18.45 | angasule | annma: technically, so do I :) |
00:18.48 | angasule | annma: I did |
00:18.49 | annma | look at configure output |
00:19.07 | annma | technically you don't know what you do if you think you removed a dependency |
00:19.16 | annma | post the config.log |
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00:19.31 | angasule | annma: late night cleaning before a trip... I should know better |
00:19.37 | angasule | ok, will do |
00:19.41 | annma | cleaning??? |
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00:19.58 | annma | well so you did reinstall after that? |
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00:21.03 | angasule | not a full reinstall, I just uninstalled some packages, that partition was getting full, I'm recompiling |
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00:21.28 | annma | did you recompile k3b? |
00:21.42 | annma | which is the one you complain about |
00:21.55 | annma | if you do, it'll tell you if you miss dependencies |
00:22.42 | annma | harry_: yes, import csv works |
00:23.05 | harry_ | thank you, very much |
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00:24.42 | angasule | annma: hmm, from within my user session, I can open a console, su, and run k3b |
00:25.27 | annma | run k3bsetup then |
00:26.26 | angasule | I did, no good |
00:26.40 | angasule | as in, it didn't solve it, even though it ran ok |
00:28.49 | annma | rm your k3brc in $KDEHOME/share/config |
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00:31.50 | angasule | annma: didn't work |
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00:32.06 | annma | recmpile it |
00:32.15 | annma | as user not as root |
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00:48.24 | kantlivelong | is there a nice way to get rss feess on the kde desktop? |
00:48.54 | annma | akregator |
00:48.58 | angasule | kantlivelong: superkaramba? |
00:49.27 | kantlivelong | angasule: will it be like part of the desktop |
00:50.54 | angasule | kantlivelong: icons can't go below the rss feeds (at least, I don't think so), but otherwise, yes |
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00:54.29 | kantlivelong | is there an rss plugin for kopete? |
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00:56.41 | frb | kantlivelong: why not use akkregator ? |
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00:56.43 | angasule | kantlivelong: can you read german? |
00:56.53 | kantlivelong | angasule: not really no |
00:57.19 | kantlivelong | angasule: but if theres a plugin im sure i can try it |
00:57.45 | angasule | umh, ok I googled for rss plugin kopete and the first link was german, and seems to mention an rss plugin for kopete, but I don't speak german :) |
00:58.22 | kantlivelong | angasule: pass the link pls :-) |
00:58.41 | angasule | http://www.linux-user.de/ausgabe/2004/09/014-ksplitter/ |
00:59.20 | kantlivelong | angasule: just a Q also.. whenever i click links, it opens a download dialog |
00:59.44 | kantlivelong | angasule: i use opera, is there a way to get the url to go just to opera? |
01:00.04 | angasule | kantlivelong: what does, kopete? I don't use kopete, so I wouldn't know, but I'm guessing somewhere in the options or preferences that can be set |
01:00.22 | kantlivelong | angasule: not from what i see... |
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01:06.26 | angasule | kantlivelong: I checked, and I couldn't find the option to do that, but I don't know much about kopete anyway |
01:06.27 | nefertum | wich is the way to start some apps in the kde init? |
01:06.27 | benJIman | ~/.kde/Autostart |
01:06.29 | apt | from memory, /.kde/autostart is empty. |
01:06.29 | nefertum | aha, thanks benJIman |
01:06.30 | nefertum | and... |
01:06.30 | nefertum | I must put in it a symbolik link? |
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01:07.15 | nefertum | yeah, i can see it now |
01:07.28 | nefertum | so i must put some links to the binaries? |
01:07.47 | nefertum | or scripts perhaps |
01:09.06 | benJIman | either |
01:09.43 | thiago | try starting from the shell whatever you put in the Autostart |
01:09.46 | thiago | note the capital A |
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01:10.10 | nefertum | it works, putting a script in it |
01:10.25 | nefertum | i supose that making the symbolik links it will work |
01:10.34 | thiago | yep |
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01:42.32 | straw | i wonder what's up with svg previews in a directory -> http://straw.sh.nu/tango/tango-on-kde-region8.png |
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01:49.42 | Oleg_ | hi |
01:53.16 | Oleg_ | how's life? |
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01:57.11 | CapNemo | hi folks |
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02:02.22 | Oleg_ | let's see |
02:02.32 | Oleg_ | so amarok requires gstreamer? |
02:02.55 | CapNemo | someone knows how to disable the double click in kde 3.5 ? |
02:03.08 | CapNemo | to click once in the file manager i mean |
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02:06.49 | Knowerrors | Hi all, is there a way to edit right click menu's in KDE and customize them, possible with icons? Using some kde improvement program |
02:07.53 | Knowerrors | What Id like is universal right click menu entries that show up for (all) programs, that give me command shortcuts at the cursor |
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02:12.53 | etzerd | I have suse 10 do I have to upgrade to KDE 3.4.3? |
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02:13.35 | benJIman | etzerd: add the supplementary kde source to yast and tell it to upgrade |
02:13.53 | benJIman | although I think the supplementary source may have changed to 3.5 now it has hit RC |
02:15.07 | kantlivelong | anyone here w/ a ati 7500? |
02:16.25 | Knowerrors | Is there a add on to easily edit/create service menu customization |
02:16.26 | Knowerrors | ? |
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02:46.20 | parph | Hi I'm having a problem with kdeinit it no longer works. I installed kde 3.5 accidentally and after I could only start kde by typing startx. I reverted to an older kde and still I can't log in graphically |
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02:51.35 | tdb30_ | Is it possible to control kde using voice? |
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02:56.14 | g3nocide | google KVoiceControl |
02:57.20 | g3nocide | or cvoicecontrol |
02:57.23 | g3nocide | i think the latter is a fork of the former |
02:57.32 | tdb30_ | which is better ;) |
02:58.04 | g3nocide | i dunno, i just checked google when you asked and returned the two 'best' answers |
02:58.12 | g3nocide | if you can read, you can find that out for yourself |
02:58.51 | tdb30_ | heh |
02:59.02 | tdb30_ | Thanks for the help. I would have never found that. |
02:59.23 | tdb30_ | I've been searching but never came across either of those. |
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03:18.45 | nemo_home | https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=203454&action=view |
03:19.15 | nemo_home | Thought it was curious that Konqueror has the same problems - border-collapse must be a tricky attribute |
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03:19.52 | nemo_home | (Both Mozilla and Konqueror are in trouble if you try to assign :hover to a td) |
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03:21.18 | Oleg_ | I see that C also has the // comments |
03:21.34 | Oleg_ | and no wonder |
03:22.28 | angasule | Oleg_: it was added in C99, I think |
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03:22.38 | Oleg_ | ok |
03:22.56 | angasule | much more comfortable |
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03:44.55 | phoenix302 | Gten morgen an alle |
03:45.09 | phoenix302 | +u |
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03:59.19 | wig | Hi, I have a very slow system (383mRAM and 667mhz) I'm looking for a way to make KDE a little bit faster than it is. HOw could I accomplish this? |
04:01.24 | grepper | not so bad - KDE runs fine on my 667MHz system |
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04:01.31 | grepper | you could turn off eye candy |
04:01.37 | wig | grepper, where do i go to turn that off? |
04:01.51 | wig | btw, love your name. |
04:01.57 | grepper | easy way - you could rerun kpersonalizer |
04:01.59 | grepper | :) |
04:02.06 | grepper | else kcontrol |
04:02.35 | dmitri | how do I switch to verbose booting? |
04:03.33 | angasule | kio (KSycoca): WARNING: Found version 75, expecting version 79 or higher. <-- I get this when starting k3b, does it mean anything to anyone...? |
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04:04.26 | Forexs | 'elo. whats a good ftp client? |
04:05.07 | grepper | angasule: did you just upgrade KDE ? |
04:08.30 | angasule | grepper: hmm, possibly |
04:09.08 | angasule | grepper: yes, definitely, at least parts of it |
04:10.09 | Forexs | noone knows? |
04:11.02 | angasule | Forexs: umh, what do you need to do with it? I use ftp |
04:11.21 | Forexs | I want something with a nice gui |
04:11.30 | Forexs | since I've recently switched to kde |
04:12.00 | hydrogen | konqueror |
04:12.00 | Theory_ | I use konqueror |
04:12.02 | hydrogen | can handle it |
04:12.15 | Forexs | hey Theory_ :) |
04:12.18 | Forexs | okay thanks. |
04:12.19 | Theory_ | hello :-) |
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04:16.20 | Jaywalker | can someone tell me how to install kde window decorations? |
04:18.14 | grepper | what did you download ? |
04:18.40 | Jaywalker | i didn't download one... i'm making one |
04:19.06 | Jaywalker | i found a folder in my mercury with gtk and kde themes |
04:19.18 | Jaywalker | gtk does the scroll bars, etc... kde has all the window themes |
04:19.22 | Jaywalker | so i'm gonna make one out of that |
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04:22.43 | Jaywalker | any idea? |
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04:28.18 | Jaywalker | kde.themerc is a file i have |
04:28.39 | Jaywalker | do i install that with something? |
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04:30.55 | SuperDuperShant | does kde have an on screen keyboard? |
04:35.22 | Gentle_ | does anybody know if having qt 4 installed will break qt3? |
04:39.45 | oGALAXYo_ | SuperDuperShant: have you looked at kde-apps.org ? |
04:39.50 | Oleg_ | kdevelop is as good as Visual NET? |
04:40.05 | Jaywalker | HAHA |
04:40.07 | Jaywalker | rofl |
04:40.23 | Gentle_ | Visual # is good? |
04:40.32 | Jaywalker | VC++.... by micro$oft... |
04:40.46 | Jaywalker | hehe, anything is better than those |
04:41.15 | Forexs | should I use arts or xine with kde? |
04:41.44 | Forexs | er, amaroK I mean :) |
04:41.48 | oGALAXYo_ | xine |
04:41.56 | ddoman | why |
04:42.07 | Forexs | any reason? |
04:42.19 | oGALAXYo_ | why do you ask ? |
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04:42.45 | Forexs | I noticed the option to switch and I want to know which is the best? |
04:42.51 | Forexs | why do you say xine? |
04:42.53 | oGALAXYo_ | xine |
04:43.17 | Oleg_ | code::blocks is better or worse than kdevelop? |
04:43.27 | oGALAXYo_ | arts is a broken obstacle following KDE for many years now.. people and developers want to get rid of it. |
04:43.43 | oGALAXYo_ | gstreamer is an option for amarok but is known to cause a lot of problems - not to mention the brokeness of gstreamer. |
04:43.54 | Forexs | okay |
04:43.54 | oGALAXYo_ | so what remains is xine which is the most promising working engine so far. |
04:44.07 | oGALAXYo_ | its also recommended by the amarok developers |
04:44.16 | oGALAXYo_ | Forexs: but you can ask again in #amarok if you want |
04:44.29 | oGALAXYo_ | there's a special channel for that |
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04:44.51 | Forexs | right |
04:44.53 | Forexs | thanks |
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05:03.05 | phenex | can any one help me find out how to add extra panels to kde? i want to make one panel at the top for the taskbar and another one at the bottom for k menu, shortcuts, quick lunch, the clock etc... |
05:03.19 | phenex | it's kde 3.4.3... |
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05:04.26 | aseigo | phenex: right click on the panel |
05:04.28 | prurigro | hey, using kde split ebuilds- just got manditory things for konqueror kate and gwenview- I'm missing whatever library kde normally grabs to load images, anyone know what it is (its not a USE variable issue, I have gif loaded in qt/kde and the library works) |
05:04.35 | aseigo | phenex: add to panel -> panels -> child panel |
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05:04.58 | aseigo | prurigro: what kind of images? jpeg? png? |
05:05.04 | prurigro | all of em |
05:05.22 | Jaywalker | still no one knows what to do??/ |
05:05.31 | prurigro | aseigo: svg works in thumbnail but doesn't get loaded, the rest aren't available |
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05:07.32 | aseigo | prurigro: so you need to install those libs. libjpeg, libpng, etc... |
05:07.38 | Jaywalker | perhaps i should restate my question: |
05:07.50 | Jaywalker | anyone know how to add a Window Decoration theme to KDE on SuSE 9.1? |
05:08.20 | prurigro | aseigo: its a kde specific thing- everything else loads all those image types properly, and I have the libraries installed |
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05:08.28 | aseigo | Jaywalker: from source, or? |
05:08.43 | prurigro | aseigo: I'm thinking kdegraphics-meta, but I'd wanna know somewhat for sure first since theres a lot of depencies |
05:09.05 | aseigo | prurigro: so when you click on png file in konqueror, what does it do exactly? |
05:09.19 | aseigo | (it should view it in the browser) |
05:09.30 | Jaywalker | well, i have images and a file named...kde.themerc |
05:09.31 | aseigo | and for that matter .. do toolbar icons show up? |
05:09.43 | prurigro | aseigo: along with not having a preview it asks what application I wanna open it with |
05:09.49 | aseigo | Jaywalker: themerc's haven't been in use for 3 releases now |
05:09.52 | prurigro | and in gwenview it just doesn't list them as supported files |
05:10.05 | prurigro | same with kuickview which I previously emerged |
05:10.10 | Jaywalker | bah, well, perhaps i should go back |
05:10.10 | Jaywalker | lol |
05:10.17 | Jaywalker | is there a way to use my images i have? |
05:10.21 | Jaywalker | and install by that? |
05:11.03 | aseigo | prurigro: that says to me that Qt wasn't built with support for those image formats. so .. do toolbar and menu icons show up? |
05:11.33 | prurigro | aseigo: yup, the toolbar shows up, everything works other than image loading |
05:11.51 | prurigro | [ebuild R ] x11-libs/qt-3.3.4-r8 +cups -debug -doc -examples (-firebird) +gif -immqt -immqt-bc +ipv6 -mysql -nas -odbc +opengl -postgres -sqlite -xinerama |
05:12.10 | aseigo | Jaywalker: as a window decoration? hrm. i 'm not sure if that's supported anymore... *shrug* sorry |
05:12.20 | Jaywalker | !!!!!!!!! |
05:12.30 | Jaywalker | why would KDE do such a thing?! |
05:12.40 | aseigo | prurigro: ok. if the icons are showing up, Qt can handle png's. |
05:12.42 | Jaywalker | my loyalty is almost... yes.. it's draining... |
05:13.03 | prurigro | aseigo: yea, thats why I think theres something specific to load the images.. maybe kdegraphics? |
05:13.05 | Jaywalker | i can't live on half-efforted crappy themes, i need a more.... hackerish theme |
05:13.27 | cpw | ... |
05:13.28 | straw | heh |
05:13.33 | straw | ok... |
05:13.33 | aseigo | prurigro: i have no idea how gentoo splits up their builds, but qimageio is part of qt itself |
05:13.42 | cpw | we don't splitup qt |
05:13.47 | cpw | we splitup kde only |
05:14.35 | prurigro | aseigo: ahhh, true- damn gentoo and their tempting split ebuilds- you dont think its a 64 bit issue |
05:14.36 | prurigro | ? |
05:14.48 | aseigo | prurigro: no, that all works on 64 bit systems |
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05:15.21 | cpw | let me check the qt-3.3.4-r8 ebuild and see how it's interacting with the source |
05:16.33 | cpw | -qt-imgfmt-{jpeg,mng,png} |
05:16.55 | cpw | and -system-libpng fwiw |
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05:17.40 | prurigro | cpw: oh word, this should mean that its working then eh? |
05:17.55 | cpw | well, it is using system libpng |
05:18.25 | cpw | time to check library links |
05:19.29 | cpw | prurigro: do `ldd /usr/qt/3/lib/libqt.so | grep png` |
05:19.39 | cpw | prurigro: then check that the libpng file it links to exists |
05:20.39 | prurigro | ldd: warning: you do not have execution permission for `/usr/qt/3/lib/libqt.so' |
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05:21.09 | cpw | so the link isn't broken |
05:21.26 | cpw | yah, then it should be working |
05:23.07 | prurigro | cpw: do you think its a kde lib thats sposed to render these things thats missing? like kde is designed to be a whole unit and maybe assums I have something I dont you know? |
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05:23.17 | prurigro | assumes* |
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05:24.21 | cpw | if I understand what aseigo is saying, kde wraps around the qt library to render the image |
05:24.35 | cpw | aseigo: feel free to apply the cluebat if I'm talking nonsense :P |
05:24.43 | aseigo | no, you're correct. |
05:24.52 | phenex | how can i set a origram i installed (yakuake) to start up on kde start? |
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05:25.10 | aseigo | phenex: just have it running when you log out |
05:25.24 | aseigo | phenex: the session management will take care of restarting it for you |
05:25.33 | phenex | it was running last time i loged out... |
05:25.50 | cpw | aseigo: eh? I thought there was some .kde/ directory you could toss a wrapper startup script to and it would start with kde |
05:25.55 | aseigo | phenex: did your other apps start up as well? |
05:25.59 | darkstego | q, how do I change disk labels so they will show the names in kde/devices? |
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05:26.18 | phenex | aseigo: they did... xchat and firefox... |
05:26.22 | aseigo | cpw: yes, but you don't have to. and with apps that allow starting multiple copies of themselves, you'll get multiple copies of it with session management |
05:26.31 | prurigro | cpw: so theres no like intermediate library then? I wonder whats wrong, but it sounds like it should be working-- well thanks for the help, I'll try kdegraphics and if it works I'll come back and tell ya for future reference ;) |
05:26.45 | cpw | aseigo: ah, I see |
05:26.54 | cpw | prurigro: roger that |
05:27.12 | aseigo | phenex: hum. ok, that's odd. because as i noted i'm running yakuake (what an odd name =) as well and it works with session mngmnt just fine (starts every time i log in) |
05:27.26 | prurigro | aseigo: thanks to you too btw, I'll be back |
05:28.19 | phenex | aseigo: ok... ill try again... do you happen to know how to make yakuake partly transperent? |
05:30.03 | aseigo | phenex: you need composite and an kcompmgr running to do that. i don't recommend it though as it's only decently swift on nvidia systems and even then if you start an opengl using app x will crash |
05:30.07 | Oleg_ | aseigo: you're up late |
05:30.17 | aseigo | Oleg_: it's only 22:29 |
05:30.21 | Oleg_ | it's 0:29 a.m. in my place |
05:30.49 | cpw | 22:29.. that's 1 hour ahead of me |
05:31.20 | aseigo | cpw: west coast, then i take it? |
05:31.23 | cpw | yup |
05:31.26 | cpw | California |
05:31.30 | aseigo | Theory_: but the time is thinking of you =) |
05:31.35 | aseigo | cpw: whereabouts? |
05:31.54 | cpw | Stockton, somewhere in the midst of San Fransisco and Sacremento |
05:32.18 | cpw | about 3 hours from reno, about 2 hours from Fresno, about 6 hours from LA |
05:32.38 | aseigo | i was in s.f. for a few days |
05:32.48 | cpw | oh, and 1 hour from sac |
05:32.54 | cpw | SF is pretty close to me |
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05:33.09 | cpw | 45 minutes to the commuter train, about 45 more to get there |
05:33.23 | cpw | then I walk all over the place because I tend to do that and I get good exercise out of it |
05:33.41 | cpw | not to mention the lack of dealing with Need For Speed 2(tm) type taxi drivers :/ |
05:34.40 | prurigro | cpw: I have an error now if you can get anything from it from kviewshell- before I load everything "No MultiPage supporting mimetype application/x-crossover-gif found" any ideas before I run back to installing the rest of kdegraphics>? |
05:35.11 | cpw | prurigro: never seen that berore, couldn't tell you |
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05:41.47 | adrian_h | Hello...How can I go about scripting KDE? I want to write a macro that does several relatively complex things across several KDE applications. |
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06:01.34 | Oleg_ | what the hell? |
06:01.44 | Oleg_ | amarok can be built with gtk 2.x? |
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06:26.22 | gcosmin_ | hi some one online? |
06:26.27 | marcusU | Hi |
06:27.04 | gcosmin_ | marcusU: how can i remove one user |
06:27.04 | gcosmin_ | ? |
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06:27.41 | gcosmin_ | marcusU: pls can u tell me |
06:27.42 | gcosmin_ | ? |
06:28.41 | marcusU | userdel maybe. |
06:29.21 | gcosmin_ | ok |
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06:31.05 | gcosmin_ | marcusU: di u use gentoo? |
06:31.08 | marcusU | No |
06:31.11 | gcosmin_ | ok |
06:31.24 | marcusU | If you're looking for gentoo help, maybe try #gentoo |
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06:50.43 | stjepan | hi |
06:51.00 | oGALAXYo_ | moin |
06:51.12 | stjepan | why are there "More applications" menus in KDE? Can't it be all in one? |
06:51.46 | marcusU | You can edit the menus if you want. |
06:51.53 | oGALAXYo | thats not mc donalds or burgerking :) |
06:52.10 | marcusU | I agree, though. I don't like the things that have been done with the menus over the past few years. |
06:53.09 | Theory_ | hopefully if we make the right offerings to the God plasma over the next year things will be sorted out for kde4 :-) |
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06:53.50 | marcusU | Unfortunately, the developers don't do very well at inviting user feedback on this. And their discussions take place on mailing lists where only developers are given posting access. |
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06:54.32 | marcusU | (i.e. the discussions are on kde-core-devel and such, and the mailing list subscription info basicly says that you need to be a developer to get the ability to write to the list.) |
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07:15.57 | stjepan | is there any good app which will check my mail and go in systray? |
07:16.02 | stjepan | (except kcheckgmail) |
07:16.19 | oGALAXYo | kmail |
07:16.23 | Theory_ | <PROTECTED> |
07:16.33 | aseigo | kmail! |
07:17.05 | chrisag | kmail! |
07:17.35 | aseigo | kmail. |
07:17.38 | Gentle | kmail hates my imapd-ssl :/ |
07:17.38 | marcusU | I don't understand this. When I reply to a message, sometimes it gets sent to me instead of to the person I'm replying to. |
07:17.45 | Theory_ | everybody do the kmail dance :-p |
07:18.18 | marcusU | My message "to" field says I'm replying to someone. |
07:18.56 | marcusU | But after I hit "send" it ends not getting sent to the person. Instead, it goes into my local mailbox. |
07:19.28 | marcusU | I don't know how to debug this. |
07:19.30 | HnZeKtO | woaaaaw |
07:19.40 | HnZeKtO | aseigo: and i'm just wake up |
07:20.05 | marcusU | If I start a fresh message, it works okay. |
07:20.10 | marcusU | But reply seems to be broken. |
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07:27.38 | marcusU | Wait, I think it's not that the message is failing to be sent. Instead, it's archiving the message into the account from which I'm replying instead of in sent-mail. |
07:28.08 | Theory_ | do you have "keep replies in folder" checked for the folder the mail you are replying to is in? |
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07:28.45 | marcusU | Yes. |
07:29.38 | marcusU | Okay. I see now. That's very confusing. |
07:29.59 | stjepan | ok, tnx guys |
07:30.35 | marcusU | Overriding a setting like that from a completely different configuration point is a bad idea. There should at least be some kind of warning/info. |
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07:34.11 | marcusU | Theory_: Thanks for letting me know why it was doing that. |
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07:37.25 | BHSPitMonkey | hello hello |
07:37.43 | BHSPitMonkey | where would i get help for kdenlive? |
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07:45.32 | lunahod | hi, I have installed ver 0.5 on KDE 3.5 rc1 and in the search menu there is only one option "Case sensitive" search, others are disabled. Are they placeholders or I have messed up something? |
07:45.50 | lunahod | question on excellent kpdf app |
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08:11.34 | Dregga | Anyone know how to set Kate to be the default text editor in KDE? |
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08:12.16 | mark_alec | Dregga: you should be able to set it in the control center |
08:15.24 | WireDDD | why isn't kate the default text editor? |
08:15.49 | PhilRod | Dregga: for each file type that you want to open in kate, go to settings->configure konqueror (in konqueror) -> file associations and choose the file type, set kate as the first option |
08:16.23 | WireDDD | how can I get gaim to use my kde theme? |
08:16.42 | WireDDD | or look the same at least? |
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08:33.07 | BeFalou | I've set an application to start with KDM, but if that application is running when a user closes session then next time it'll be started twice, kdm's and user's saved session, how can I avoid that? |
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08:36.19 | angasule | BeFalou: how about getting kdm to run a script that checks if the app is running, and if not, to start it? |
08:37.13 | BeFalou | that won't work because the application is not running in KDM, it'll start after login |
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08:37.59 | aseigo | BeFalou: what do you mean "with KDM"? |
08:38.33 | BeFalou | I mean here: /etc/kde3/kdm/Xsetup |
08:38.47 | aseigo | BeFalou: if you are using the autostart folder (which you should for something like that) then use a small wrapper script around the actual app that checks to see if it is already running |
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08:39.54 | BeFalou | the application is xvkbd, which displays an on screen keyboard, needed to login with my tabletpc |
08:39.54 | aseigo | (pidof and bash is your friend here =) |
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08:41.13 | aseigo | so it's running at the same time as kdm. and when kdm logs you in it doesn't go away? interesting. in any case, yes, put a wrapper script for xvkbd named xvkbd somewhere in PATH where it will get executed first |
08:41.19 | aseigo | and then in it do something like |
08:42.08 | aseigo | if [ ! `pidof xvkbd` ] then; /actual/path/to/xvkbd; fi; |
08:42.36 | aseigo | (well, #!/bin/sh first of course =) |
08:43.00 | BeFalou | I've seen in Control Panel an option which tells kde not to start some apps, do you know if there's a global setting for that? |
08:43.03 | Kwarq | BeFalou, kde (n=kde@bluemchen.kde.org) was last seen parting #kde 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours 51 minutes ago (01.11. 05:53), after spending 5 minutes there. |
08:43.12 | BeFalou | wtf |
08:44.37 | BeFalou | thanks aseigo, that seems to be the best way |
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08:50.27 | mike-m | hello |
08:50.51 | mike-m | could someone tell me if there are shortcuts from the keyboard to move and resize a window ? |
08:51.17 | mike-m | something like alt-shift-left/right |
08:51.27 | mike-m | not alt-f3 |
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08:52.21 | stepz | look at the keyboard shortcuts applet under control center |
08:52.28 | aseigo | mike-m: have you looked in the keyboard shorcutes panel? |
08:52.29 | aseigo | haha |
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08:52.32 | aseigo | stepz: beat me! |
08:52.36 | mike-m | ok, I open it |
08:52.37 | man_in_shack | anyone here use guidedog? |
08:52.43 | aseigo | man_in_shack: i have, yes |
08:53.10 | man_in_shack | i'm trying to set up a box to be a router |
08:53.12 | man_in_shack | between subnets |
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08:53.35 | mike-m | got it, thank you |
08:53.50 | man_in_shack | aseigo, think you can help me? |
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08:54.58 | aseigo | man_in_shack: so you have 2 or 3 nics, one subnet on each nic with the public network possibly on the third, and you want the machines to be able to see each other? |
08:55.10 | man_in_shack | 2 nics |
08:55.16 | man_in_shack | in one box |
08:55.36 | man_in_shack | one nic goes out to the main lan goes out to the internet |
08:55.42 | man_in_shack | other goes to my own lan |
08:56.10 | man_in_shack | so i want to plug stuff into the second nic and be able to have it access the net |
08:56.58 | Theory_ | man_in_shack: personally I use a tool called firehol to generate firewall rules, one of the examples it comes with will do what you want |
08:57.32 | aseigo | man_in_shack: the standard guarddog settup does that =) |
08:57.34 | man_in_shack | what interface does firehol have? |
08:57.35 | aseigo | man_in_shack: just turn it on |
08:57.49 | man_in_shack | aseigo, "enable routing" in guidedog? |
08:58.17 | aseigo | no, what you want is guarddog, not guidedog |
08:58.23 | man_in_shack | :| |
08:58.25 | aseigo | guide does NAT rules and the list |
08:58.30 | aseigo | guarddog is the firewalling utility |
08:58.40 | aseigo | same author, he just splite the functionality over two apps |
08:58.58 | aseigo | the idea seems to have been to keep the interface of each comprehensive but still not insanely complex |
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08:59.32 | man_in_shack | so how do i handle the nat rules? |
08:59.37 | aseigo | so fire up guarddog and click the Enable guarddog checkbox, hit the apply button and you're done |
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09:00.14 | man_in_shack | my guarddog has been customised |
09:00.19 | man_in_shack | and i don't see an "enable" button |
09:00.42 | aseigo | man_in_shack: so that people on the internet can access your machines internally? or so that things like ftp or games and what not work properly? |
09:01.20 | aseigo | man_in_shack: ah, sorry. make sure the Disable Firewall checkbox is turned off and hit Apply |
09:01.40 | man_in_shack | yes well ... |
09:01.56 | man_in_shack | sigh |
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09:03.19 | aseigo | man_in_shack: worst case scenario, you may need to change what the LAN interface IP addrs are on the first tab |
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09:05.37 | man_in_shack | hmm |
09:05.58 | man_in_shack | i can ping both nics in the router |
09:06.03 | man_in_shack | from the second subnet |
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09:07.13 | Tm_T | hmm, Kopete is sooo ugly and unconfigurable ;( |
09:07.20 | Tm_T | http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/Kopete_002.png |
09:08.42 | man_in_shack | i can't ping the rest of the first subnet |
09:08.49 | man_in_shack | which has the modem on it |
09:08.51 | aseigo | Tm_T: hrm? |
09:09.09 | Tm_T | aseigo: Kopete using xhtml+css engine |
09:09.15 | BeFalou | aseigo: cool |
09:09.18 | BeFalou | oops |
09:09.23 | aseigo | Tm_T: ah.. yeah, i caught that on the kopete mailing list |
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09:09.49 | aseigo | Tm_T: i still think kopete should drop the whole html area thing and code a proper widget that's performant and has nice effects... |
09:09.53 | man_in_shack | aseigo, how about you tell me how to set it up without assuming i'm using guarddog for the first time? |
09:10.00 | aseigo | Tm_T: use svg's if high themability is still the desire |
09:10.09 | Tm_T | humm |
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09:10.20 | wireddd | is kde-look down? |
09:10.30 | aseigo | man_in_shack: you ensure that the zones on the first tab are correct (e.g. LAN has the right subnet address) then ensure Disable Firewall isn't checked and click apply |
09:10.37 | aseigo | wireddd: seems to be that way, yes |
09:10.39 | Tm_T | I afraid that won't be as powerful as this is |
09:10.48 | aseigo | Tm_T: qt >=4.1 comes with a rather nice svg engine |
09:11.11 | man_in_shack | aseigo, all that's right |
09:11.15 | Tm_T | aseigo: aah! we were talking about if we can do this differently in KDE4 |
09:11.21 | aseigo | Tm_T: nor as slow. how powerful does it need to be, and fast does it need to be |
09:11.28 | aseigo | Tm_T: yes. |
09:11.46 | aseigo | Tm_T: obviously it's not going to change in the 3.x branch. that'd be silly =) |
09:12.12 | man_in_shack | aseigo, box on subnet B can ping both ips of router box |
09:12.19 | BeFalou | aseigo: the script is working and is the first on my PATH (/usr/bin/xvkbd) but the thing kde saved session remembers is xvkbd "real" path... |
09:12.21 | man_in_shack | aseigo, but cannot ping other boxes on subnet A |
09:12.47 | Tm_T | aseigo: yu, many things can change in trunk, but I think that xhtml+css engine is so much faster than old one so no need to go back to it |
09:13.19 | aseigo | man_in_shack: i thought you said you had one subnet on one nic, and the public internet on the other? |
09:13.44 | man_in_shack | subnet A has a modem/router on it |
09:13.53 | aseigo | Tm_T: is it faster for really long conversations? the issue with the current html+css is that it bogs down after a while |
09:14.03 | Tm_T | aseigo: talking about chat window: http://kde-artists.org/main/index.php?option=com_smf&Itemid=48&expv=0&topic=540.0 |
09:14.18 | man_in_shack | subnet B is plugged into the linux box sitting right infront of me |
09:14.28 | man_in_shack | which is on both subnet B and subnet A |
09:14.36 | Tm_T | aseigo: err? I had over thousand lines yesterday and it was still fast |
09:14.36 | man_in_shack | get it? |
09:15.07 | aseigo | Tm_T: try one of the nicer non-fugly styles and watch is bog |
09:15.08 | aseigo | er, it bog |
09:15.24 | Tm_T | uh |
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09:15.39 | Tm_T | have to try |
09:16.34 | pinotree | hello =) |
09:18.33 | aseigo | BeFalou: try changing the $PATH var in the script so you can execute it just as xvkbd. |
09:18.41 | aseigo | BeFalou: e.g.: |
09:19.05 | aseigo | if [ ! `pidof xvkbd` ] then; PATH=/wherever/xvkbd/is xvkbd; fi; |
09:20.31 | cpw | aseigo: evil :P |
09:20.35 | aseigo | man_in_shack: i'm going to pass on that one. i'm really not in the mood to help with network topology and routing questions. kde q's sure, but it's 02:19 and i prefer not to mess with network issues |
09:20.42 | aseigo | cpw: heh. that's my middle name. |
09:20.57 | man_in_shack | well thanks for trying anyway |
09:21.04 | Tm_T | sir aaron evil seigo |
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09:21.09 | Tm_T | ;) |
09:21.23 | cpw | (A)ll (S)alvageable (E)vil (I)n (G)ood (O)rder? |
09:21.40 | aseigo | aseigo is salvable evil in good order |
09:21.53 | aseigo | aseigo is sweet evil in godly order |
09:22.01 | aseigo | there. that's horrific enough. |
09:22.11 | cpw | sounds like a rock band |
09:22.11 | Tm_T | :p |
09:22.29 | cpw | I broke konqueror today |
09:22.30 | aseigo | cpw: yes. and our music is written by daemons. ;) |
09:23.09 | cpw | I attempted to transfer a file from an ftp server to an ssh server through fish:// |
09:23.16 | cpw | it didn't like that and killed poor konqueror |
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09:40.35 | BeFalou | aseigo: it's working :) instead of cahcnging PATH I did a cd /path/to. Thanks for your help |
09:40.48 | aseigo | BeFalou: np. |
09:40.49 | BeFalou | s/cahcnging/changing |
09:41.09 | cpw | s:s/cahcnging/changing:s/cahcnging/changing/: |
09:41.45 | aseigo | haha |
09:42.08 | Tm_T | :p |
09:43.31 | cpw | I use sed too much |
09:43.34 | cpw | not that it's obvious |
09:44.16 | Tm_T | how one can use sed too much? |
09:44.41 | cpw | Don't ask :P |
09:45.15 | Tm_T | only if all your irc messages are sent using sed, then I might consider that opportunity |
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09:47.09 | vitalite | sed notation is an efficient way of correcting irc typos |
09:47.52 | cpw | I remember some people that used to do this: |
09:47.54 | cpw | *typo |
09:48.01 | Tm_T | yu |
09:48.07 | Tm_T | there's multiple ways |
09:48.47 | Tm_T | humm, maybe I will use sed to send irc messages... have to try -> |
09:49.05 | cpw | *typo \(^_^)/ oO( Typo! ) s/bad/typo/ s:bad:typo: $message =~ s/bad/typo/; |
09:49.24 | Worf | i have quite some stability issues (app freezes, ... ) when searching for files propably caused by fam/gamin... does one know about that problems? workarounds? ..? |
09:50.15 | cpw | $fixed = str_replace("bad", "typo", $bad_string); |
09:50.36 | cpw | ${STRING/bad/typo} |
09:50.42 | cpw | ok.. yah, I think I'll stop :/ |
09:51.06 | Dregga | Hey, when I start up KDE all my desktop icons are in the wrong order or shuffled off to the right. How can I stop that? |
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09:53.22 | aseigo | Dregga: upgrade to 3.5 when it comes out =) |
09:54.02 | cpw | On my ppc box I don't have a desktop at all if that's a consultation |
09:54.15 | cpw | then again, I don't have a working kernel either :P |
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09:57.26 | Chryseus | Wonder if I should try RC1.. :/ |
09:58.03 | Skrotto | Chryseus: 3.5 will probably be out in the end of the month |
09:58.40 | Chryseus | That's why I was wondering :p |
09:58.46 | Tm_T | Chryseus: no totta mooses |
09:58.52 | Worf | Chryseus: rc1 is working very well here |
09:58.55 | Dregga | Aren't they converting KDE to use Qt4? |
09:59.05 | aseigo | well, it's still nice to get people testing it so we can route out any showstoppers |
09:59.05 | Tm_T | KDE4 |
09:59.07 | aseigo | Dregga: yes, but that's kde4 |
09:59.10 | cpw | that's KDE4 type stuff |
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09:59.18 | Dregga | Right, I see, so that's in the works already? |
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10:00.41 | Worf | Dregga: now we talk about kde 3.5 - for the next 6 months i don't eaven ponder about kde3 |
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10:01.14 | Worf | err - 4 |
10:01.31 | aseigo | Dregga: yes, we're working on kde4 in tandem to the 3.5 release |
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10:01.48 | aseigo | anyone here into graphics? |
10:02.22 | stepz | in what way into graphics? |
10:02.44 | Tm_T | hum? |
10:02.47 | stepz | I like to look at nice graphics :) |
10:02.57 | Tm_T | I like to do nice graphics :p |
10:02.58 | Worf | i have gimp installed - does that hel? :) |
10:03.27 | stepz | I have photoshop installed |
10:03.30 | fangel | yes... that does open the gateway to hell.. |
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10:10.23 | Worf | i'd like to know details about how kde is using fam/gamin... anybody around i could talk to about that? |
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10:17.38 | aseigo | Worf: what sort of details? |
10:18.17 | Worf | aseigo: well,... what happens when you search for a file from within konqueror. what fam/gamin stuff is called in that case? |
10:19.05 | Worf | aseigo: especially: what is being monitored by who and why |
10:19.23 | aseigo | Worf: when you search? nothing. fam and gamin are file modification notifiers. |
10:20.11 | aseigo | Worf: when you open a folder or otherwise cause a listing of contents somewhere then a kdirwatch is started, which is an abstraction on top of the various change notification systems out there |
10:20.13 | Worf | aseigo: well, but something must go wrong then, because i had serious issues last night when playing music on a party |
10:20.24 | Worf | hmm |
10:20.24 | aseigo | Worf: kdirlister works with kdirwatch to keep the listing up to date |
10:20.43 | aseigo | Worf: what sort of serious issues? and what were you doing exactly? |
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10:21.33 | Worf | aseigo: one example ( my problem yesterday ): playing music with amarok. searching for a file in a big local folder.... ( not using collection, but file search ) |
10:21.48 | Worf | effect: the whole app got frozen. |
10:22.00 | _yolanda | hello...ive never used this before im new to linux |
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10:22.03 | nazgool | hi |
10:22.07 | aseigo | "whole app" == amarok? |
10:22.12 | Worf | aseigo: yep |
10:22.51 | aseigo | so... you were searching from within amarok, or from within konqueror? |
10:22.59 | Worf | aseigo: i'm looking for a backtrace, but can't find it right now. i remember that it had lots of kdelibs and gamin functions |
10:23.09 | _yolanda | i like that name worf i have data on my desktop wallpaper |
10:23.12 | Worf | aseigo: i then did try from within konqueror and could reproduce the same |
10:23.58 | aseigo | Worf: sounds like something is broken with fam on your system. which doesn't surprise me. i've heard of lots of people having issues with fam. |
10:24.13 | aseigo | Worf: if there's any good news, it's that fam's days are numbered (inotify is the path forward) |
10:24.27 | nazgool | i remember when i pressed a key (e.g. shift or ctrl) for a couple secs, a window would pop up and suggest to activate some smart feature that would allow me to better use my keyboard when i keep these keys pressed for a sec or so. what's that called? |
10:24.33 | aseigo | Worf: until then, dunno what to suggest. how big was the local folder, and how were you searching (using the find file utility in konq?) |
10:24.44 | aseigo | nazgool: accessibility =) |
10:24.51 | nazgool | aseigo: ok thx |
10:24.55 | aseigo | nazgool: dead keys, etc |
10:25.11 | Worf | aseigo: that was some "look for something in that folder with 10GB of ogg and mp3" |
10:25.34 | Worf | oh - * means bold in irc... |
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10:27.06 | nazgool | aseigo: thx |
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10:28.03 | Worf | aseigo: is actually a difference if one uses fam or gamin? |
10:29.01 | aseigo | gamin is a subset API of fam |
10:29.50 | Worf | aseigo: so you get a subset of the problems? :) |
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10:29.57 | aseigo | lol. sth like that ;) |
10:30.31 | nightswim | on konqueror 3.4.3 on ubuntu, can I tell it to open files/folders on double click instead of a single one? :) |
10:30.40 | gravix | yes |
10:30.51 | gravix | it's in the Mouse panel of the Control Center |
10:31.03 | gravix | kinda confused why it's there and not in desktop settings or something |
10:31.07 | nightswim | hmm ok |
10:31.18 | Worf | aseigo: ok... i think i try to find out how to disable gamin for now. and if that isn't possible i guess i remove it and rebuild whatever is using it... :-/ |
10:32.37 | nightswim | gravix: aah indeed, I am using konqueror under gnome, starting kcontrol and changing it worked fine, thanks |
10:33.13 | aseigo | doublecick is evil. or d.i.e. ;) |
10:33.22 | gravix | yep np :) |
10:33.37 | gravix | i couldn't use a gui file manager without double-click. years and years of muscle memory |
10:34.40 | nightswim | hmm, I wish I installed it earlier |
10:34.48 | nightswim | konqueror seems to be a lot better than nautilus |
10:34.53 | Chryseus | I should be doing documentation but I'm not.. Oh why is this so boring? |
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10:35.41 | Oleg_ | hi |
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10:40.53 | Oleg_ | read a little about structs |
10:41.08 | Oleg_ | some of it I understood, some didn't |
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10:48.16 | KD-Misafir222 | hello |
10:48.37 | pinotree | hello KD-Misafir222 |
10:49.50 | gravix | well guys, at least it's friday |
10:50.18 | gravix | i will be free from the clutches of the man once again |
10:51.09 | KD-Misafir222 | good days |
10:51.16 | Oleg_ | aseigo: u're still awake? |
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11:07.41 | tchino | i cannot do settings with admin-rights |
11:10.15 | doleyb | tchino: try to rephrase that in the form of a question. |
11:15.39 | qdot | ok.. my lil question - any timeframe on kde-4 alpha's (CVSs ?) |
11:16.38 | tchino | doleyb: when i go in the control-manager under kde, and want to add more users at login-manager, the system ask my admin-passwort |
11:17.05 | tchino | i type in and get after that the same screen with inactivate options, what is wrong? |
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11:20.35 | doleyb | tchino: try Alt-F2, "kdesu kcontrol" |
11:23.28 | tchino | thank you |
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11:27.44 | agenteo | hi, anybody know a doc that explains how to add system-wide desktop themes? I've used the control center to add new themes but that work just for current user... |
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11:38.22 | mart_k | agenteo: I don't know much about themes, but I guess you must copy some files to `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/kstyle/ |
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11:39.20 | Ahri | hi, i remember hearing somewhere that there was a virtual disc image mounter for kde (like daemon tools) - but i can't remember what it's called |
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11:43.23 | agenteo | mart_k, thanks I've found out its usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/kthememanager |
11:43.33 | agenteo | mart_k, but still kiosk is unable to see the new theme |
11:44.14 | agenteo | mart_k, the theme is system-wide right now, but mu target was to let kiosk saw the new theme |
11:45.13 | agenteo | I must go away |
11:46.58 | mart_k | agenteo: Ok, I can't find out which sources kiosk uses now. |
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12:02.40 | gravix | is there a kde frontend to SMART tools or anything of that sort? (something that will monitor drive temp is really what i'm looking for) |
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12:05.44 | RichiH | is there a kciker applet that will tell me about network and disk i/o, too? |
12:06.24 | pinotree | RichiH, gravix: have you tried ksim? |
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12:06.47 | RichiH | nope |
12:07.10 | gravix | pinotree: installing now. |
12:07.54 | RichiH | pinotree: i _have_ gkrellm ;) |
12:08.08 | RichiH | i want it in the kicker to free up screen space |
12:08.21 | pinotree | RichiH: in fact i use it, but you asked for a kicker applet ;) |
12:08.35 | pinotree | well, ksim really is a panel itself... |
12:08.43 | RichiH | also, the cow theme is not on the ksim page |
12:08.53 | RichiH | the cow theme is the best of all ;) |
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12:09.10 | berkes | morning all |
12:09.17 | RichiH | pinotree: the format does not look as if it would fit into a kicker, though |
12:09.27 | berkes | Im haing serious trouble with my spellchecking, |
12:09.38 | pinotree | RichiH: ksim ca use gkrellm themes |
12:09.40 | pinotree | can* |
12:09.56 | RichiH | pinotree: yes, i know. that's why i said the cow theme was missing :) |
12:10.00 | berkes | for one, i have only english (uk) and Dutch (standard) installed, yet my dropdown lists like 100 entries |
12:10.37 | berkes | most of the entries are double, or say "unknown" |
12:10.58 | berkes | any hints what files I should remove and or re-install? |
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12:12.56 | gravix | man, the Ksim site is having major php problems |
12:13.36 | berkes | I am using aspell, btw |
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12:17.00 | Ahri | hi, i remember hearing somewhere that there was a virtual disc image mounter for kde (like daemon tools) - but i can't remember what it's called |
12:17.48 | gravix | Ahri: why not use mount? |
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12:18.22 | Ahri | why not use vim instead of kwrite? because i want a gui |
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12:19.17 | pinotree | Ahri: maybe kdiskfree (kdf) |
12:19.26 | pajaro | hi |
12:19.26 | hydrogen | kate :) |
12:19.54 | pajaro | si there any way to make new desktop icons appear in a certain region of the desktop? |
12:20.08 | Ahri | pinotree: hmm does that mount images too? |
12:20.23 | pajaro | cause it is annoying that new stuff that i download from the internet mixes with the i cons i already have |
12:20.28 | Ahri | it looks like it just shows disk space free |
12:20.55 | pinotree | Ahri: no, images no |
12:21.08 | pajaro | i have my static icons on left side, and i would new icons to appear on the right side |
12:22.46 | Katagia | Hi. I have windows program I want to run with wine. This program requires a variable parameter to run. Is there an small kde programm I can start which reads the parameter from user input and starts the program? |
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12:24.44 | Phasip | How do i rezise the window where i browse for files? I think this is kde stuff, like the open in k3b |
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12:31.52 | market2 | buna |
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12:32.33 | market2 | helo |
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12:34.16 | GuerillaTactiks | Hello, I have a problem with KDE and X ... My monitor has problems displaying 1024*768 @ 87Hz, but its fine at 85Hz. The problem is in the display panel there is an option for 87Hz.. and I want to remove it, the reason is that a game I'm playing, in which I wan to set my res. to 1024*768 but what it does is it automatically makes the refresh to 87Hz as that is the max in the panel in KDE... which makes my scree |
12:34.27 | GuerillaTactiks | n flicker. If that 87Hz was removed my game would change to 1024*768 but at 85Hz instead |
12:35.06 | Theory_ | do you have your refresh frequencies set correctly? |
12:35.17 | Faizi | you have to edit your X configuration for the correct horizontal and vertical refresh frequencies |
12:35.19 | GuerillaTactiks | I think so |
12:35.39 | GuerillaTactiks | I have read the monitor manual and set them from that |
12:36.06 | GuerillaTactiks | HorizSync30-85 |
12:36.06 | GuerillaTactiks | VertRefresh50-160 |
12:36.22 | GuerillaTactiks | well the first one is 30-96 |
12:36.29 | GuerillaTactiks | That was typo |
12:37.46 | GuerillaTactiks | This means in my game (NWN) I cannot go past 800*600 |
12:37.58 | Faizi | then just set the resolution by editing the X config file |
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12:38.15 | GuerillaTactiks | What resolution? |
12:38.42 | GuerillaTactiks | I mean't actually I can go past to 1024*768 but it flickers so its unusable |
12:38.48 | Faizi | 1024*768 ? |
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12:39.49 | GuerillaTactiks | That is in the config, but It automatically gets those frequencies, 87Hz does not even work with my monitor but its still in the panel combobox |
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12:40.15 | anabain | hi |
12:41.38 | anabain | kbabel question: <p> tags in .po files are the text tags used to display info through the "What is this?" feature? |
12:41.41 | GuerillaTactiks | Any other ideas? |
12:42.06 | pinotree | anabain: not only that |
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12:42.30 | anabain | what else, then, pinotree? |
12:42.40 | pinotree | for example, rich texts in gui |
12:43.15 | GuerillaTactiks | I even tried setting the horizontal freq in the X config to 30-85 (real is 30-96) so that it might not go past 85Hz then in the combobox, but it still did |
12:43.43 | Theory_ | do you have an nvidia card? |
12:43.48 | GuerillaTactiks | Yes |
12:43.55 | Theory_ | are you using their drivers? |
12:43.58 | GuerillaTactiks | Yes |
12:44.08 | pinotree | anabain: kcontrol->system administration->login manager->convenience tab |
12:44.13 | Theory_ | you might want to tell it to ignore the freq information from the monitor then |
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12:44.17 | pinotree | anabain: there you shuld see a red text |
12:44.27 | anabain | ok |
12:44.28 | pinotree | no, bad example |
12:44.31 | GuerillaTactiks | How do I do that? |
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12:44.45 | Theory_ | GuerillaTactiks: it's in the readme that comes with the nvidia drivers |
12:45.20 | GuerillaTactiks | I installed them through synaptic |
12:45.21 | pinotree | anabain: kcontrol->regional&accessibility->input actions |
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12:45.33 | pinotree | in the info tab, you can see the bold "NOTE:" |
12:46.28 | anabain | pinotree, the point is that in catalan phrases like "You can see here" "With this option" are superfluous and a bit annoying when answering the "What's this?" question, and I was wondering if they were used somewhere else |
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12:47.10 | Theory_ | try /usr/share/doc/ then |
12:47.11 | pinotree | anabain: well, you should really talk with the i18n-ca translators |
12:47.25 | GuerillaTactiks | Okay found the readme on their website |
12:47.25 | anabain | ok |
12:47.38 | pinotree | not all the options have those starting forms |
12:47.43 | anabain | yes |
12:47.48 | pinotree | anabain: are you a catalan translator? |
12:47.51 | anabain | yes |
12:47.59 | anabain | a new one, but yes |
12:48.18 | anabain | why? |
12:48.36 | pinotree | nothing so important... |
12:48.49 | anabain | excuse my english... :) |
12:49.01 | pinotree | np :) |
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12:53.53 | munzir | hi gurus! what's the standard way of translating man pages? |
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12:59.11 | GuerillaTactiks | Theory_ : Did you mean the "noEDID" option? |
12:59.17 | Theory_ | yes |
12:59.33 | GuerillaTactiks | Okay I've put it in, just doing to restart X |
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13:01.24 | GuerillaTactiks | Theory_ : Hmm, no luck. Still the same.. displays option for 87Hz |
13:02.57 | niko | what is the best kde irc-client? Kopete, KSirc, Others? |
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13:05.00 | mart_k | niko: I would suggest to try some of them to see which one you like most. The best irc-client is a personal choise. |
13:06.01 | niko | mart_k: kopete i didn't like. now i'm on ksirc which is better - and now i wanted to ask which one others use... |
13:06.55 | mart_k | niko: I use kvirc. |
13:07.30 | niko | mart_k: thanks, i will try that... |
13:07.51 | mart_k | niko: Another one that you can try is konversation. |
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13:08.49 | niko | mart_k: ok i will try these two, much thanks |
13:09.01 | mart_k | niko: np |
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13:25.51 | phenex | how can i make the desktop preview and pager on the kde panel show a preview of the desktop? |
13:27.46 | Roey | hi |
13:27.53 | Roey | does anyone have problems running goole maps in konqueror |
13:28.01 | Roey | it refuses to display directions for me |
13:28.09 | Roey | it says "you must have java enabled, then click here" |
13:28.15 | Roey | but I *do* have java enabled. |
13:28.23 | doleyb | Roey: yes, that problem is old, you might be able to change the ident string |
13:28.28 | Roey | and I also put the browser ident to explorer 6 on xp |
13:28.30 | doleyb | but konq is not on google's supported list, for a reason |
13:28.34 | Roey | oh? |
13:28.42 | Roey | what reason? |
13:28.42 | doleyb | try some Mac idents? maybe, people have had luck with those. |
13:28.45 | Roey | opera |
13:28.48 | Roey | I think Opera would work |
13:29.26 | Roey | what the heck is the difference between browsers that they can't display a page int he same way?? I mean, I thought HTML and CSS and all that other junk was considered "standard" |
13:30.12 | doleyb | file a bug |
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13:31.50 | Aji-Dahaka | is anyone here experiencing troubles with shaded windows ? |
13:32.19 | Nanobot | Roey: It's probably due to the fact that Google Maps uses some nonstandard methods |
13:32.22 | Aji-Dahaka | when I hover over the window, it's set to display ... sometimes it does, sometimes not ... |
13:32.36 | Aji-Dahaka | the shadow (when enabled) always grows appropriately |
13:32.38 | Nanobot | http://nanobox.chipx86.com/browser_support.php <- web browser standards support |
13:33.27 | Nanobot | No browser supports all of the standards (because the specifications are so huge and complex), and most support some stuff that isn't standard that some websites use. That's why you get incompatibility |
13:33.50 | Nanobot | Internet Explorer probably supports more nonstandard stuff than standard stuff |
13:34.39 | Nanobot | (Konqueror isn't yet listed on that site, BTW, but it will be coming in the nearish future |
13:34.40 | Nanobot | ) |
13:35.15 | Aji-Dahaka | good, good |
13:35.23 | Aji-Dahaka | w3c has really taken a shining to khtml |
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13:40.28 | Roey | Nanobot: the "most support some stuff that isn't standard" is mostly MS and FrontPage, yes? |
13:41.22 | Nanobot | Like I said, Internet Explorer probably supports more nonstandard stuff than standard stuff. |
13:41.36 | Nanobot | They thought it would be great to just support random unnecessary stuff |
13:42.06 | Nanobot | That mentality has changed now, and the IE development team is focusing more on standards (as far as Microsoft will allow them) |
13:42.30 | Roey | Nanobot: heh |
13:43.48 | Roey | Nanobot: I'll be clear in stating that I believe that MS will use whatever means it can to either extend existing standards or push their own standards in an effort to lock users and developers to their platform. |
13:44.30 | Nanobot | I think Microsoft has finally realized that it's web developers who are mainly driving the migration from Internet Explorer, and so right now they want to appeal to them |
13:44.39 | Nanobot | In particular, the standards advocates |
13:44.43 | Roey | legal means (massachusetes) aside |
13:44.48 | Roey | *its |
13:44.51 | Roey | oh |
13:44.52 | Roey | it's |
13:44.53 | Roey | sorry |
13:45.08 | Roey | Nanobot: but see, |
13:45.21 | Roey | Nanobot: MS tried to control developers by controlling their tool: FrontPage. |
13:45.53 | Roey | if FrontPage makes incompatible code, then developers by default crank out web pages that only IE can properly render. |
13:45.59 | Nanobot | I've talked with Chris Wilson, the head of the IE development team, and a couple other IE developers. They *really* want to make their browser standards compliant. It's just an issue of whether or not Microsoft will give them the resources necessary to do that. |
13:46.00 | Roey | so has MS made changes to frontpage at all? |
13:46.18 | Roey | resources in terms of what, money? |
13:46.26 | Nanobot | I'm not sure, but I heard rumors that they're abandoning frontpage for a new system they're making |
13:46.47 | Nanobot | FrontPage was bought from another company anyway. It wasn't originally developed by Microsoft. |
13:47.00 | Nanobot | Resources largely in terms of time |
13:47.00 | Roey | in my mind there's a suit thinking to him or herself that they can't let existing standards erode marketshare |
13:47.12 | Roey | Nanobot: I know that FrontPage was. |
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13:49.12 | Roey | every time I go to a site like sysinternals.com (which actually has tools to show you what's going on under the hood of W2k-based systems) |
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13:49.57 | Roey | I get this nagging feeling that MS gives you just enough to get comfortable, but keep you locked in |
13:50.03 | Roey | and this is me as an administrator. |
13:50.53 | Nanobot | Oh, no matter what they do with future IE versions, I'll still be trying to get people to switch away |
13:51.06 | The_Ball | Roey, it's not that M$ doesn't want you to be comfortable they just don't want to spend money making you confortable |
13:51.21 | The_Ball | rather that you spend money to be confertable |
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13:51.47 | Roey | oh |
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13:52.10 | Roey | so that's why they sell their sdk. |
13:52.42 | Nanobot | They depend on developers to develop stuff for their products so that they can secure their large market shares |
13:52.54 | Nanobot | So they have to appeal to developers somewhat |
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13:53.01 | Alcapond | Hi . how do I change the color of the desktop icon-fonts (kubuntu / kde 3.4.3)? Thx |
13:53.05 | Murrlin | good morning |
13:53.10 | Nanobot | Apparently, they were shocked when they learned that web developers hated IE |
13:54.30 | Roey | heh |
13:55.14 | Nanobot | That's how they acted anyway. If they'd been reading any kind of web browser discussion on the Web, they should have known that for a long time |
13:55.38 | Nanobot | I like to refer to this article, from 2003: http://news.com.com/2100-1032-5088642.html |
13:55.51 | Nanobot | Since then, they've still done absolutely nothing to improve standards support |
13:55.54 | Roey | Nanobot: ah, I found words to describe my feelings towards Microsoft's software: I feel like a fish chasing some bait, where the bait is constantly being moved ahead, just out of reach. |
13:56.07 | Murrlin | hrm |
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13:57.06 | Nanobot | And the bait is leading toward polluted waters |
13:58.05 | Murrlin | what would be the file that holds the list of windowmanagers, shown in the Session menu of the graphical login? |
13:58.12 | Roey | (that, or the bait has a nice shiny hook in it, or that I must expend more and more resources (energy, or money, etc.) to keep chasing the bait. |
13:58.18 | Roey | ) |
13:59.55 | phenex | how can i make the desktop preview and pager on the kde panel show a preview of the desktop? |
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14:01.05 | pinotree | phenex: set it to show window thumbnails and icons |
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14:05.53 | pinotree | phenex: right click on the pager applet to configure it, if you don't find how to configure |
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14:14.05 | phenex | pinotree: i have no such configurations there... |
14:14.30 | pinotree | phenex: don't you have a popup menu if you right-click on the pager applet? |
14:15.37 | phenex | pinotree: i do, but have nothing about tumbntails and icons... |
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14:21.45 | phenex | pinotree: oh... there is the problem... it shows a kind of panel applet, not the pager itself... |
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14:22.06 | pinotree | start the pager and configure it, then |
14:22.20 | pinotree | that's quite easy :) |
14:22.27 | phenex | it is configured... the applet still shows no tumbntails... |
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14:37.38 | GuerillaTactiks | Hello, My monitor flickers at 1024*768 @ 87Hz, but not at 85Hz, anyone know how I can remove the 87Hz from the list? |
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14:39.23 | GuerillaTactiks | Ive tried many things but nothing seems to work |
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14:43.12 | sam^ | hi |
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15:35.05 | pinotree | hello =) |
15:36.39 | GraveDigger | moin |
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15:54.44 | DeadS0ul` | who ktorrent is awesome |
15:54.59 | frb | yep. simple, to the point |
15:55.26 | frb | unlike those other p2p clients that think they are web browsers, media player, and download managers all in one, with a side order of instant messenger and email client |
15:56.11 | DeadS0ul` | yeah those are annoying |
15:56.16 | DeadS0ul` | wait..e-mail client |
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15:58.17 | Chryseus | emerge: (17 of 17) kde-base/kde-base-3.5.0_rc1 Compile... *yawn |
15:58.25 | Chryseus | finish already :( |
15:58.34 | GraveDigger | huhuuu |
15:58.38 | GraveDigger | thats why i left gentoo |
15:58.52 | GraveDigger | i like stuff like this a bit ... faster ... to be done |
15:58.56 | Chryseus | I'm on suse :P |
15:59.03 | GraveDigger | ? |
15:59.07 | GraveDigger | emerge on suse? |
15:59.12 | GraveDigger | oO |
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15:59.42 | darth_cb | i am running slackware 10.2 and kde 3.4.2. i am using the Add Printer Wizard to configure a samba shared Brother HL1440 printer, how do i install the driver for it? |
15:59.48 | straw | hello annma |
16:00.10 | pinotree | hiha annma :-) |
16:00.18 | annma | hi straw :) |
16:00.22 | Chryseus | GraveDigger: just chrooted to gentoo so I can compile things and have working desktop at the same time :) |
16:00.27 | annma | darth_cb: what doe sthe printer wizard say? |
16:00.28 | GraveDigger | darth_cb: afaik the hl1440 uses the 1250' ppds, so what you need is already included into cups |
16:00.32 | GraveDigger | at least is should |
16:00.32 | annma | hi pinotree |
16:00.37 | Vincent_k | is there a way to get rid of the grey background on gaim/xchat systrayicons in kde |
16:01.03 | Vincent_k | i'm using transparent kicker and it look's awful |
16:01.11 | GraveDigger | darth_cb: make sure you have those pps already installed, otherwise consult your package manager's documentation about how to get them installed |
16:01.30 | darth_cb | GraveDigger, it isnt though, i have a choice of six brands and brother isnt one |
16:01.42 | GraveDigger | true |
16:02.04 | GraveDigger | the default set of pps with cups are far away from what cups really have |
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16:02.19 | GraveDigger | they are seperated in many packages on the most distribution |
16:02.22 | GraveDigger | s |
16:02.33 | straw | Vincent_k: i really doubt it. complain to to the gaim/xchat authors :/ |
16:02.55 | Vincent_k | well it is gtk apps :) |
16:03.19 | straw | Vincent_k: or better, switch to kopete/konversation ;) |
16:03.24 | GraveDigger | ack |
16:03.35 | Vincent_k | konv well but kopete no |
16:03.44 | GraveDigger | what is that wrong about kopete? |
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16:03.50 | annma | Vincent_k: you are in #kde here,not #gtk |
16:03.50 | Vincent_k | i have to live with it then :D |
16:03.52 | Gentle | konversation wasn't entirely beautiful at all :/ |
16:03.56 | pinotree | kopete is still not good for irc |
16:04.09 | annma | kopete is not meant for irc at all |
16:04.13 | GraveDigger | true, but konversation is |
16:04.25 | Vincent_k | annma yes im aware of that |
16:04.30 | straw | using an im client for irc is just weird... |
16:04.44 | GraveDigger | like using irc clients for icq or whatnot |
16:04.45 | GraveDigger | ... |
16:04.49 | Vincent_k | but I thought maybe someone else, besides me runs gaim and or xchat in kde |
16:05.07 | Chryseus | irssi <3 |
16:05.14 | Gentle | Vincent_k, personally I disabled XChat's tray icon completely |
16:05.20 | GraveDigger | that's no trouble with window managers at all!! |
16:05.24 | DeadS0ul` | I like conversation and kopete =D |
16:05.26 | Vincent_k | I'll do that |
16:05.46 | Chryseus | irssi + bitlbee = all you need |
16:06.08 | GraveDigger | hehe |
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16:06.10 | frb | konversation looks like a kde xchat |
16:06.18 | annma | yes |
16:06.20 | Gentle | frb, not at all |
16:06.23 | GraveDigger | frb: guess what its meant to be |
16:06.24 | GraveDigger | :D |
16:06.37 | GraveDigger | (partitally at least) |
16:06.37 | straw | frb: i believe that's the plan |
16:06.56 | Vincent_k | it's kinda wierd thoug... gaim uses the same icon for systray as in kmenu |
16:07.05 | Vincent_k | and there it's transparent |
16:07.07 | frb | I wish I could disable separate server tabs in konv, but hey, I'm happy to have a kde irc client that works |
16:07.20 | Gentle | Konversation neither has as much builtin features as XChat, nor does it allow proper scripting |
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16:07.38 | Vincent_k | even my shortcut in kicker are good |
16:07.40 | GraveDigger | Gentle: and konv is far younger and less developed than xchat |
16:07.43 | Vincent_k | same icon |
16:07.44 | GraveDigger | just give it more time |
16:07.46 | GraveDigger | ! |
16:07.51 | annma | yes |
16:07.53 | frb | I never used scripts in xchat either |
16:08.10 | Gentle | GraveDigger, I don't say it's generally bad, it's just currently at a non-usable state |
16:08.11 | frb | but the ugliness of gtk on a kde desktop is enough for me to not use it |
16:08.17 | Vincent_k | reason for me to use xchat is that i used it in win for a long time |
16:08.26 | frb | non-usable state? |
16:08.39 | Vincent_k | same with gaim |
16:08.54 | annma | bah |
16:08.55 | Gentle | frb, try scripting event-based with it |
16:08.59 | GraveDigger | Gentle: errm... it IS usable ... it just depends on WHAT you want to "use" with it |
16:09.02 | annma | try something new! be innovative! |
16:09.24 | frb | Gentle: I have no reason to have an event based script |
16:09.38 | frb | this is irc, not a application framework |
16:09.52 | Gentle | heh, "I don't need what I don't have" is such a general opinion |
16:09.53 | Chryseus | Anyone know if it's possible to get your computer go into locked state when your cellphone gets out of bluetooth range? |
16:10.11 | frb | Chryseus: I would say yes |
16:10.22 | Chryseus | That would be so handy |
16:10.36 | GraveDigger | if one thinks about irc as "internet relay >> CHAT <<", then konversation is all one needs - cauz one may CHAT with it... |
16:10.42 | frb | Chryseus: although I've no clue about it, I'm guessing that the bluetooth framework has trigger events for load and unload like other removable devices |
16:10.49 | GraveDigger | scripting and shit goes far beyond this |
16:11.02 | Gentle | GraveDigger, if you want to see it like that, Telnet will suffice, you can chat with it |
16:11.10 | GraveDigger | true |
16:11.20 | frb | I can't chat with telnet |
16:11.29 | GraveDigger | oh, you CAN |
16:11.31 | Gentle | frb, it's your inability, not telnet's |
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16:11.40 | frb | no no, if I leave the keyboard it died |
16:11.43 | GraveDigger | all you need is telnet and a proper knowledge of the IRC protocoll |
16:11.45 | frb | server pings suck |
16:11.54 | straw | jeez... i didn't mean to cause a commotion ;) |
16:11.56 | Gentle | frb, you can chat, who told you you can leave your keyboard? |
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16:12.44 | GraveDigger | c ya |
16:12.48 | Gentle | cu |
16:13.42 | Chryseus | it's ready! yay! |
16:13.49 | Gentle | _poison, it was you guys telling me "I don't need scripting as long as I don't have it" >.< |
16:14.31 | Gentle | still, xchat looks just as ugly *compiles konversation now* ;) |
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16:15.29 | Sho_ | And no, Konversation is not meant to be an XChat clone (XChat itself is an Amirc clone) |
16:15.42 | Gentle | still, does Konversation handle Nickserv authentication by itself? |
16:15.44 | frb | I'm telling you I never used scripting even in xchat when I was a gnome hacker |
16:15.47 | frb | Gentle: yes |
16:15.56 | Sho_ | Gentle: yes |
16:16.42 | Gentle | ok then, that would be the most basic feature I think of as vital, then I could maybe get used to it ;) |
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16:21.00 | Sho_ | As for scripting, it's a long-term goal |
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16:22.15 | _poison | hey ... are there any plans for inotify support in KDE ? |
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16:23.20 | annma | kde4 is for more than 1 year, _poison |
16:23.20 | dBera | inotify is a kernel behaviour, kde is a desktop environment - its not good to make the latter dependent totally on the former |
16:26.29 | darkstego | ok |
16:26.32 | _poison | dBera: dBera it can be determibned at runtime if the kernel has inotify support ... and there are #ifdefs ... so it would not be totally dependant ... |
16:26.59 | Chryseus | hmm.. anyone having speed problems with rc1? |
16:27.23 | dBera | now its my turn to ask a question :) |
16:28.14 | dBera | amarok is starting *another* artsd instance ... ! is this normal (so i have 2 artsd instances running) / i should ask this question in another channel ? |
16:28.21 | _poison | hmmm ... is there any sane reason why ark copys the file to be extracted to /tmp before unpacking ? |
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16:28.38 | _poison | dBera: #amarok |
16:28.41 | dBera | amarok-1.3.6 (kde 3.4.2) |
16:28.44 | dBera | okieeeee |
16:28.49 | dBera | in freenode ? |
16:29.04 | _poison | dBera: but if you'd ask me, I'd say drop arts, use xine ... |
16:29.13 | _poison | dBera: yes, freenode |
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16:30.07 | dBera | _poison: i am looking forward to dropping arts since ages ... i'd switch to gstreamer - but how can i ask gstreamer to use alsa:dmix |
16:30.37 | dBera | _poison: kde will definitely use arts for notification ... that will block the device - so i think i need to somehow use dmix |
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16:32.17 | _poison | dBera: I know how to configure dmix for the xine engine .... set engine to xine, use output plugin alsa, set stereo/mono device to plug:dmix ... |
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16:32.31 | _poison | that should work ... |
16:32.34 | annma | dBera: I use arts for notifications and for amarok |
16:33.00 | _poison | I can't remember if arts hogging dmix prevents that from working ... |
16:35.34 | _poison | arts sounds a bit better than xine ... at least I think so ... too bad it likes crashing so much |
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16:36.09 | bubshait | hey all |
16:36.15 | dBera | for me arts crashes if i leave it idle for 7-8 hours :) so funny |
16:37.08 | _poison | dBera: ^^ then it got better ... |
16:37.35 | annma | that's trendy to smash arts |
16:37.40 | dBera | wish me luck .. installing gstreamer |
16:37.44 | annma | but so far nobody came with better |
16:37.48 | _poison | annma: yepp |
16:37.50 | bubshait | gstreamer is fine |
16:38.01 | annma | gstreamer is a monster |
16:38.15 | _poison | hmmm .... gstreamer crashed even more often than arts for me =/ |
16:38.15 | annma | it's not what we need for the whole kde to depend on |
16:38.45 | annma | bubshait: we need a smaller sound engine than gstreamer with less dependencies |
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16:38.58 | annma | so far, nobody did better than arts |
16:39.06 | bubshait | arts is a mess |
16:39.10 | annma | yes? |
16:39.17 | annma | what is best then? |
16:39.33 | annma | did you try doing something? |
16:39.36 | bubshait | arts development is in a stand still |
16:39.47 | annma | you just repeat what you say |
16:39.50 | bubshait | which means kde will be moving to something else |
16:39.51 | annma | what you read |
16:39.55 | annma | yes? |
16:40.07 | annma | bubshait: obviously you're not in kde core |
16:40.08 | dBera | kde *is* dropping arts in 4 (thats what i read) |
16:40.08 | straw | implementing a reliable, high quality sound server seems to be a difficult task |
16:40.21 | annma | dBera: wrong at the moment, arts is in kde4 |
16:40.32 | straw | arts was updated a couple of days ago... |
16:40.49 | annma | don't repeat every stupidity you read like parrots |
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16:41.05 | annma | besides LOTS of kde is not more maintained than arts |
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16:41.25 | _poison | straw: a sound server is not the problem I guess .... there is jack ... which would be perfect ... arts also is a multimedia engine ... that does the dirty work decoding you audio+ (video ?) |
16:41.26 | dBera | sucks... annma: installing xine backend |
16:41.28 | annma | straw: yes, and was fixed regularly |
16:41.50 | annma | arts is better maintained than some other stuff in fact |
16:41.53 | _poison | but agani jack is linux only ... |
16:41.55 | _poison | =/ |
16:42.17 | annma | problem is that distros still do a very poor jib with sound |
16:42.23 | annma | jib/job |
16:42.31 | straw | jack isn't really a desktop sound server, is it? |
16:43.11 | _poison | straw: jack is a sound deamon, if you use it on the desktoop is up to you, but it's no multimedia engine ... |
16:43.15 | Chryseus | hmm.. where's the adblock in konqueror? |
16:43.27 | _poison | Chryseus: privoxy.org |
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16:43.47 | straw | yeah, fc doesn't ship jack so i have no experience with it |
16:44.36 | Chryseus | But.. wasn't there supposed to be adblocking in 3.5? :( |
16:44.47 | straw | there is |
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16:46.03 | straw | Adblock Filters in Settings -> Configure Konqueror... |
16:46.10 | Chryseus | Yeah.. just found it .) |
16:46.53 | DeadS0ul` | that's better than the javascript settings I had to do in 3.4 =( |
16:47.29 | Chryseus | All I need now is rocker gestures and I'll be using only konqueror ^_^ |
16:47.45 | straw | rocker gestures? |
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16:48.06 | frb | air guitar for web navigation |
16:48.25 | Chryseus | straw: for back you press right mouse button and then left |
16:48.32 | Chryseus | and for forward you press left and then right |
16:49.02 | straw | Chryseus: you can do that in Control Center i expect |
16:49.13 | _poison | Chryseus: KHotkeys |
16:51.13 | frb | if you play highway to heaven flawlessly, you get into all music sites for free |
16:51.31 | straw | actually... i'm not sure khotkeys can capture mouse button presses |
16:52.39 | Jhihn1 | is highway to heaven a combination is "highway to hell" and "stairway to heaven"? |
16:52.54 | Skrotto | I was just thinking about that, Jhihn1 :) |
16:54.09 | annma | jhihn: lol, yes however the styles get mixed a bit |
16:54.57 | jhihn | it could work |
16:55.36 | jhihn | that was a whole fad for a while. STRONG starts then quiet sections |
16:55.37 | annma | and she's buying a ... highway to hell! |
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16:55.48 | oleg | G'day |
16:55.51 | straw | heheh |
16:55.58 | straw | hello oleg |
16:56.29 | oleg | where does kde stores the autostr list? |
16:56.34 | oleg | *autostart |
16:57.04 | annma | Desktop/Autostart I think |
16:57.12 | oleg | i mean that i've set the Korganizer not to start at boot, but it starts |
16:57.20 | oleg | nup, it is not there |
16:57.35 | straw | oh, that's the session management |
16:57.45 | annma | yes, not the Autostart |
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16:57.54 | oleg | and where is it? :) |
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16:58.42 | straw | oleg: you should just need to make sure it's not running when you log out next |
16:59.02 | annma | .kde/Autostart |
16:59.07 | annma | is AUtostart |
16:59.10 | oleg | straw: hmm... it doesnt seem to be there when i logout |
16:59.22 | annma | and tehre's a setting in KOrganizer as well I think |
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16:59.43 | oleg | annma: there is but even if i disable it, it still starts |
16:59.52 | straw | oleg: ~/.kde/share/config/session is where the session is stored |
16:59.56 | annma | what exactly starts oleg ? |
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17:00.03 | oleg | thanks |
17:00.05 | annma | korganizer or the doaemon? |
17:00.12 | oleg | korganizer =) |
17:01.03 | straw | not just the systray app, but a korganizer window opens? |
17:01.31 | oleg | not the main window |
17:01.36 | oleg | in the systray |
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17:02.07 | straw | right click and quit. it should ask about starting on log in |
17:02.22 | oleg | it does, i select that NO, and it still starts |
17:02.45 | straw | BAD korganizer |
17:02.53 | oleg | =) |
17:04.10 | straw | actually, i'm wrong about ~/.kde/share/config/session is where the session is stored :-/ |
17:04.29 | straw | it's ~/.kde/share/config/ksmserverrc |
17:04.34 | oleg | sec =) |
17:05.33 | oleg | k, gonna reboot and check out the options again |
17:05.35 | oleg | cya all |
17:06.18 | annma | reboot? does he think he is in windows? |
17:06.22 | straw | reboot? doh |
17:06.32 | annma | ;) |
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17:07.51 | aikie | can anyone help me with some kde programming? |
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17:09.28 | Old--man | Anyone know how to change the default profile when you open konquerer to a custom profile? (and is willing to tell me how to do it) |
17:09.30 | PhilRod | aikie: just ask |
17:09.30 | annma | aikie: yes but ask a precise question |
17:09.43 | annma | don't expect us to try your prog |
17:09.44 | PhilRod | although #kde-devel has more developers |
17:10.03 | PhilRod | Old--man: konqueror --profile filemanagement |
17:10.06 | PhilRod | for example |
17:10.23 | Oleg_ | time to drink coffee |
17:10.40 | Oleg_ | wow! |
17:10.42 | straw | yes Oleg_ , it is |
17:11.08 | Oleg_ | we have another Oleg here |
17:11.12 | Old--man | PhilRod, What I want to do is change the home icon on the toolbar so it opens with my profile instead of the default file management one. When I change it it says "profile not found", so I think I have the wrong name or some similar problem. |
17:11.27 | aikie | I have now a working program but isn't working as it should |
17:11.34 | Old--man | Once it's open i can change it, but I want it to open with my profile. |
17:12.20 | aikie | when the program starts it should show a QWidget, but it only shows it when the main exits so I can only see a blimp of it |
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17:12.46 | straw | Old--man: were there spaces in the name you chose for the profile? |
17:13.11 | Old--man | straw, There were initially, but I renamed it without. |
17:13.24 | annma | aikie: post the main.cpp and the qwidget class code in paste bin |
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17:13.28 | aikie | it shows and instantly disappears |
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17:13.48 | aikie | http://pieterv.free.fr/testosd/src |
17:15.32 | straw | Old--man: looking in ~/.kde/share/apps/konqueror/profiles might give a clue |
17:16.00 | Old--man | straw, Ok, thanks for the tip <looking> |
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17:17.04 | aikie | when I call the function to show the widget it looks like it is hiding untill main has ended |
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17:18.13 | Old--man | straw, Found it and I'm making progress. Thank you |
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17:18.33 | straw | ok |
17:19.08 | _poison | aikie: s/setTopWidget/setMainWidget/ ? |
17:19.13 | cb400f | I've messed something up in my SuSE10/kde 3.4.3>3.5rc1.. when I use the Mycomputer-icon or the network folder-panel applet konqueror says media:/, smb:/, zeroconf:/ etc. are malformed urls - anybody know how to fix this? |
17:19.15 | _poison | lucky guess |
17:20.15 | aikie | doesn't make any difference |
17:20.29 | dBera | _poison: installed xine-engine, now where do i set output plugin of xine to alsa and device to dmix ? |
17:20.52 | frb | dBera: in the amarok prefs, there is an Engine "tab" |
17:21.48 | dBera | there is only a drop down menu and an about. i choose xine there. no option to choose output plugin of xine. shouldnt that be in some conf file ? |
17:22.33 | frb | dBera: if you go to the Settings menu, it should have Configure Amarok... |
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17:22.52 | frb | dBera: then in the navigation bar on the left, scroll down until you see Xine or Engine or something |
17:22.54 | dBera | ahh... trick is "click apply" it shows up :) |
17:22.58 | frb | iirc, it's the last one |
17:25.53 | PhilRod | could someone using linux tell me the output of "grep memmem /usr/include/string.h" please? I get a build error related to it on freebsd |
17:26.48 | bssteph | PhilRod: nothing |
17:27.11 | _poison | extern void *memmem (__const void *__haystack, size_t __haystacklen, |
17:27.12 | _poison | <PROTECTED> |
17:27.12 | _poison | <PROTECTED> |
17:27.50 | bssteph | oh |
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17:28.06 | bssteph | my results were obsfucated by gentoo's multilib |
17:29.17 | PhilRod | hrm, ok, so you have practically the same as me |
17:29.23 | PhilRod | now I'm out of my depth :-) |
17:29.35 | PhilRod | I'll wait for one of the KDE freebsd guys to take a look |
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17:43.04 | Skrotto | Hi, is there a way to copy text from kwrite to kword and keep the syntax-highliting kwrite made? |
17:43.51 | pinotree | Skrotto: export to html and import it in kword? |
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17:44.53 | Skrotto | okay |
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17:46.13 | annma | Skrotto: what syntax highlighting? |
17:47.30 | wig | where do I put color schemes in kde 3.3? |
17:47.48 | apokryphos | wig: kcontrol |
17:48.08 | wig | i mean |
17:48.13 | wig | ./.kde/share/apps/? |
17:48.38 | annma | Skrotto: I am not aware of syntax highlithing in KWprd |
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17:50.03 | Skrotto | I seem to remember I was able to copy text with syntax highliting from kwrite to OOo |
17:50.23 | annma | OOo does highlighting? |
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17:50.33 | Skrotto | no, but it kept the colors from kwrite |
17:50.48 | Skrotto | If I wrote more to the code it wasnt hightlighted |
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17:51.15 | stjepan | hi |
17:51.24 | stjepan | where can I find some good backgrounds for kicker? |
17:52.13 | wig | wiat |
17:52.20 | wig | where do i put this damn scheme? :-P |
17:52.22 | PhilRod | wig: good question. Let me have a look |
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17:52.34 | Chryseus | travolta |
17:52.55 | annma | stjepan: kicker backgrounds are just normal backgrounds |
17:53.01 | Tm_T | hullo |
17:53.06 | Tm_T | Chryseus: diu |
17:53.06 | annma | there are none 'speacial' |
17:53.30 | wig | PhilRod, all right |
17:53.39 | Chryseus | nyt on amarok vauhdikas ^_^ |
17:53.52 | PhilRod | wig: ~/.kde/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes |
17:53.56 | Tm_T | Chryseus: hjuva |
17:54.07 | wig | PhilRod, thanks man |
17:55.46 | wig | it says kdisplay isn't a dir o_O |
17:56.22 | wig | should i make it? |
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17:56.33 | stjepan | annma: have you any good backgrounds? |
17:57.31 | PhilRod | wig: yup, create it |
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17:58.19 | annma | stjepan: I set my kicker transparent |
17:58.42 | stjepan | annma: what desktop background are you using? |
17:58.53 | annma | standard 3.5 one |
17:59.06 | annma | I am not a komplicated person |
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18:00.03 | wig | i must have did something wrong |
18:00.06 | wig | damn thing isn't showing up |
18:00.20 | annma | grepper: lol, thnaks |
18:00.25 | PhilRod | wig: try putting it in $KDEDIR/share/apps/kdisplay/color-schemes |
18:00.44 | PhilRod | where you can find KDEDIR with the command "kde-config --prefix" |
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18:01.29 | PhilRod | apt: kdedir is <reply>$KDEDIR is the directory your KDE is installed into. You can find out what directory this is with the command "kde-config --prefix" |
18:01.30 | apt | PhilRod: okay |
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18:05.27 | rellis | hi guys |
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18:07.08 | sredna | Elloh |
18:07.15 | PhilRod | ~dot-ket |
18:07.18 | PhilRod | ~dot-kde |
18:07.19 | apt | *Don't* remove ~/.kde: as well as your personal settings, it contains your address book and may contain your email. Rename the directory and restart KDE instead |
18:07.54 | PhilRod | hi rellis |
18:08.02 | rellis | hey philrod |
18:08.42 | rellis | i have a question.. has anyone an idea as to why KDE control center would lock up on attempting to edit setting for sound? |
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18:09.09 | rellis | everytime without fail :) |
18:09.14 | rellis | i'm on slackware 10.2 |
18:09.16 | rellis | kde 3.4 |
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18:10.28 | N9NU | can anyone tell me where to manually put the files for a cursor/X11 mouse theme?? |
18:10.39 | N9NU | as far as directoty structure |
18:10.55 | straw | ~/.icons |
18:11.03 | N9NU | ah ok |
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18:11.19 | N9NU | thnks so much |
18:11.26 | eisregen | N9NU: /usr/X11/lib/X11/icons/ <- there if you want them globally ... |
18:11.52 | N9NU | by global, you mean for all users and all sessions? |
18:11.58 | eisregen | N9NU: yes |
18:12.13 | Aji-Dahaka | are there any good graphical svn clients for kde? |
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18:12.23 | eisregen | Aji-Dahaka: kdesvn |
18:12.30 | eisregen | Aji-Dahaka: apps:kdesvn |
18:13.27 | PhilRod | rellis: at what point does it lock up? clicking on 'apply'? |
18:13.58 | Aji-Dahaka | eisregen: where? I don't see it in my installation or in ports |
18:14.21 | eisregen | Aji-Dahaka: just type 'apps:kedsvn' in konqi |
18:14.27 | Aji-Dahaka | ah |
18:14.32 | eisregen | sorry ... apps:kdesvn |
18:14.38 | Aji-Dahaka | thanks |
18:14.52 | eisregen | Aji-Dahaka: np ^^ |
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18:16.24 | rellis | philrod: I open the KDE control center... go to the sound system.. then as soon as i do anything.. like disable the sound system.. KDE control center freezes entirely and has to be kileld |
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18:18.15 | PhilRod | rellis: does the freeze happen when you click on the checkbox or when you click on apply? (or some other time?) |
18:18.44 | rellis | one sec |
18:19.06 | straw | rellis: did you compile arts, or ist it a slackware package? |
18:19.45 | rellis | straw: the freeze happens when i click "test sound" or "apply setting"... checking and/or uncheking checkboxes does nto cause it to freeze |
18:20.03 | PhilRod | ok, then the problem is with arts |
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18:20.30 | straw | that's not what i was asking though, rellis |
18:20.33 | rabauke | I had a similar problem, tha changes are saved though, so I did not bother anymore. |
18:20.53 | rellis | straw: hehe... so it's nto.. slackware package |
18:20.58 | rabauke | also, sometimes the progress bar, which is a fake anyway, runs endlessly |
18:21.00 | PhilRod | rellis: try the following command: artsplay /path/to/some/sound/file |
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18:21.19 | rellis | philrod.. cna it be an mp3.. or doesi t need ot be uncompressed? |
18:21.28 | PhilRod | rellis: anything you like |
18:21.48 | PhilRod | oh, and take a look on this page, just in case it helps: |
18:21.49 | PhilRod | ~artstr |
18:21.51 | apt | somebody said artstr was http://docs.kde.org/development/en/kdebase/faq/sound.html |
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18:23.05 | rellis | philrod: i'll go read that now.. it reported it can't connect to the sound server.. which is sort of assumed arts daaemon was broken or not working correctly i should say |
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18:25.01 | PhilRod | rellis: ps aux | grep artsd |
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18:26.18 | rellis | philrod: I think I have ab etter idea on how to diagnose the problem. I don't want to waste your guys time when not needed. I'll come back when I have mroe specific information. I'm goign to tst some things. |
18:26.26 | rellis | philrod: Than you for the help. |
18:26.32 | rellis | Thank* even |
18:27.36 | PhilRod | ok, yw |
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18:31.30 | N9NU | tnx for the help with the X11 cursor theme |
18:31.34 | N9NU | works ok now |
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18:33.39 | marcin | wer sprecht deutsch???????/ |
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18:33.55 | pinotree | marcin: english or #kde.de |
18:33.59 | marcin | ich suche weib??????????/ |
18:34.18 | pinotree | oGALAXYo? ^^^^ |
18:34.24 | oGALAXYo | morning |
18:34.44 | frb | marcin: gehen sie auf #kde.de |
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18:35.04 | frb | marcin: wir sprechen heir nur Englisch |
18:35.29 | frb | I hope that made sense, I haven't used german in about 7 year |
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18:35.33 | oGALAXYo | frb: so why do you speak german then ? :) |
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18:35.39 | stjepan | hello |
18:35.57 | stjepan | is there any advanced configuring scrollbar? |
18:36.00 | PhilRod | evening stjepan |
18:36.02 | stjepan | I do not want arrows on scrollbar |
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18:37.18 | PhilRod | you'd have to find a theme that allows that config. I don't know of one, but there might be one on kde-look.org |
18:37.30 | marcin | aber ich suche wieb,keina gay |
18:38.30 | Oleg_ | gay? |
18:38.43 | Oleg_ | what does the German word gay stand for? :) |
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18:39.10 | pinotree | oGALAXYo: what did marcin say? |
18:39.18 | oGALAXYo | dunno |
18:39.27 | pinotree | aren't you german? |
18:39.30 | ponto | Oleg_: this ist not a german word |
18:39.45 | Oleg_ | ponto: was it the English word? |
18:39.52 | ponto | Oleg_: i guess |
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18:41.09 | ponto | Oleg_: Loosely translated: I search a woman, not gay |
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18:41.52 | bubshait | how do I change the disk labels shown by media:/ in KDE? |
18:42.27 | oGALAXYo | pinotree: well i am but i didnt follow what he said and cleared all my buffers and windows of konvi when i renamed my nick... just worke up by the way and preparing dinner :) |
18:44.05 | ponto | Is KDE 3.5 beta as distributed in the suse kde apt sources stable enough to be used instead of 3.4.3 |
18:44.31 | bram85 | PhilRod: ping |
18:44.35 | Oleg_ | ponto: and why would the subject of women come up all of a sudden very soon after he appeared here? |
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18:44.56 | Oleg_ | ponto: I thought he was looking for the proper kde channel |
18:45.19 | PhilRod | hi bram85 |
18:45.38 | bram85 | PhilRod: hi.. someone on #kde-devel pointed to you regarding ccache + KDE SVN |
18:45.50 | bram85 | and guess what, it doesn't work here :) |
18:45.57 | annma | ponto: you should ask in #suse to get the chance to find someone who has them |
18:46.13 | PhilRod | bram85: yeah, I'm using it here. I'm using a bunch of symlinks that point to it |
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18:46.21 | pinotree | bram85: "someone"... |
18:46.43 | bram85 | ok, credits to pinotree :) |
18:46.52 | jecco | Hi people |
18:46.57 | bram85 | PhilRod: I'm using Gentoo, and portage is using ccache fine |
18:47.14 | PhilRod | bram85: are you trying that method, or changing $CC? |
18:47.38 | jecco | hey am I on line? |
18:47.43 | pinotree | jecco: sure |
18:47.44 | PhilRod | jecco: no |
18:47.49 | pinotree | PhilRod: :-D |
18:48.06 | bram85 | PhilRod: i have a /usr/lib/ccache/bin/ with a bunch of symlinks. that path is mentioned first in my $PATH |
18:48.09 | jecco | ok I go, I am doing some test with transparency windows |
18:48.35 | jecco | I have some question but now I have to go |
18:48.39 | bram85 | and the path appears in config.log |
18:48.45 | jecco | bye bye |
18:49.23 | PhilRod | bram85: I have the following in that (equivalent) dir: |
18:49.26 | PhilRod | -> /query |
18:51.15 | Oleg_ | kdevelop includes only kde and qt graphical libraries? |
18:51.27 | Oleg_ | it doesn't have any other graphical libraries? |
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18:51.46 | pinotree | kdevelop does NOT include any libary |
18:52.14 | Oleg_ | pinotree: but, for example, Visual NET includes graphical libraries |
18:52.30 | pinotree | Visual .NET != kdevelop |
18:53.08 | Oleg_ | how can a fully-featured IDE not include graphic libraries? |
18:53.11 | pinotree | libqt and kdelibs can be installed and use even without kdevelop |
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18:53.27 | pinotree | and thei devel files too |
18:53.30 | pinotree | their* |
18:54.21 | bayer | can you guys tell me where to put the adobe ps drivers so that the "export drivers" dialog can find them? |
18:54.48 | PhilRod | Oleg_: I imagine that you're misunderstanding how kdevelop works and what it does (which would explain why your question makes no sense) |
18:54.49 | pinotree | Oleg_: an ide doesn't contain any graphic libary |
18:54.55 | pinotree | every IDE |
18:57.13 | Oleg_ | pinotree: but Visual NET includes libraries for creating graphical programs |
18:57.40 | pinotree | i think "includes" is wrong. you should say "install along itself" |
19:00.06 | PhilRod | Oleg_: Qt *is* the library for creating graphical programs. KDevelop just provides tools to make developing those programs easier |
19:00.58 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: but kdevelop is a full-featured IDE, right? |
19:01.07 | pinotree | right |
19:01.18 | pinotree | but DOES NOT include ANY libray |
19:01.30 | Oleg_ | ok |
19:01.33 | PhilRod | Oleg_: you need to go away and read about how all this stuff works |
19:02.59 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: well, I am downloading kdevelop now, and then I'll see how good it is for compiling programs quickly. I wanna learn structs today |
19:03.28 | mae | nooo! |
19:03.29 | mae | no structs |
19:03.31 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: the last time I used kdevelop was like a year and half ago |
19:03.34 | mae | you mean struts? |
19:03.48 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: at that time I was confused using it |
19:04.16 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: but if it's a full-featured IDE, I guess I should learn how to use it |
19:04.32 | mae | noway |
19:04.33 | Oleg_ | mae: structs |
19:04.35 | mae | its all about vim |
19:04.44 | PhilRod | Oleg_: if something else (kate, emacs, vi) works for you, then just use it |
19:07.09 | Oleg_ | PhilRod: well, I became confused with kdevelop at that time and went back to kate, so I'll see what will happen now |
19:07.15 | PhilRod | ok |
19:07.46 | Oleg_ | "full-featured IDE", I like how it sounds |
19:07.57 | Oleg_ | so I'll see |
19:08.30 | mae | no |
19:08.37 | mae | full featured schizophrenik mess |
19:08.40 | mae | is more like it :) |
19:09.56 | annma | mae: be tolerant for beginners who need it |
19:10.04 | annma | mae: you develop for kde? |
19:10.43 | mae | annma: not directly, no :) I use kde though. |
19:11.00 | annma | maybe you don't get what kdevelop can bring then |
19:11.05 | mae | I personally find that kde makes simple things complicated :P |
19:11.16 | annma | examples? |
19:11.17 | cpw | than.. why are you here |
19:11.17 | mae | err kdevelop |
19:11.18 | mae | rather |
19:11.21 | mae | not kde |
19:11.22 | cpw | oh :P |
19:11.22 | mae | hah |
19:11.36 | annma | did you develop a kde app? |
19:11.44 | cpw | I use qdesigner myself |
19:11.51 | annma | kdevelop is first about developing KDE apps |
19:12.04 | cpw | I do QT mostly, with a bit of KDE on the side |
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19:12.29 | mae | annma: if you know the ide like the back of your hand then you are fast with it, but I think it is just my personal pref because I know intuitively how to do things, and in kdevelop i have to find the button or menu item to do the same thing, and sometimes it doesnt work -- and It is harder to follow exactly what button does what. |
19:12.55 | annma | well, it is not really about that at first for a beginner |
19:13.10 | annma | it's about getting a working kde app template at first |
19:13.12 | mae | yeah i understand. |
19:13.36 | annma | then the menu items are quite easy to get: configure, build |
19:13.51 | annma | install, install as root |
19:14.17 | mae | I wish there was a middle-of-the-road ide.. with powerful keyboard commands like vi, but has high level features like tabbed file views a la TM or Kate.. but also has the flexibility to have an integrated debugging system for various languages and platforms |
19:14.43 | annma | well I don't see the problem like that |
19:14.47 | mae | but doesn't force you to do things a certain way like eclipse |
19:15.06 | annma | I see the big advantage of kdevelop about dealing with automake |
19:15.12 | annma | which is KDE build way |
19:15.28 | annma | or qmake |
19:15.31 | mae | yeah -- if you use automake there are now a bunch of _good_ replacements |
19:15.40 | mae | If i remember right kde was thinking of going to scons |
19:15.41 | annma | kde uses automake |
19:15.44 | mae | soon |
19:15.50 | mae | on the mailing list |
19:15.57 | annma | yes but that's not the point |
19:15.59 | mae | annma: yah it does right now |
19:16.13 | annma | the poit of kdevelop is helping a newbie dealing with automake easily |
19:16.19 | annma | it's not about editing |
19:16.20 | PhilRod | IIRC, scons will be the build system for KDE 4 |
19:16.25 | pinotree | yep |
19:16.33 | annma | yeah but it seems slow to progress |
19:16.43 | N9NU | this may sound like a goofy ?, but how do i see other computers i have that have linux&kde. I have no problem seeing my windows machine via SMB4K, but cannot see the other 4 Linux machines |
19:16.47 | annma | I am quite disappointing inthe whole thing |
19:16.52 | pinotree | slowly but keeps going on... |
19:17.06 | annma | hmm |
19:17.07 | mae | annma: I am not arguing against your point, I am conceding it, but then at the same time saying 'I know automake is a pain and that is whats great about kdevelop, but at the same time I think a new breed of IDE would be nice when automake isn't an issue and we are using more flexible/powerful build systems' |
19:17.29 | annma | mae: get involved in kdevelop for kde4 |
19:17.40 | mae | heh |
19:17.44 | annma | but don't dismiss kdevelop as it is now |
19:17.50 | mae | hmm |
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19:18.03 | annma | it is useful and as I wrote a tutorial for it I have lots of feedback |
19:18.17 | annma | so I am perfectly well placed to speak about it |
19:18.21 | mae | heh |
19:18.55 | mae | I don't think I'll ever like kdevelop, It has far too many buttons and sliders and dialogs for my taste :) |
19:19.16 | N9NU | i just want to be able to swap files across my network w/o having to setup proftp or copy them to CD to do it |
19:19.21 | mae | What I'm saying is i think there is a balance between 'graphical everything' and 'simple yet powerful text editing' |
19:19.22 | pinotree | mae: that will change for kde4 |
19:20.02 | mae | alot of the graphical wizards in kdevelop could be replaced by an intuitive and intelligent text-completion system |
19:20.10 | PhilRod | one day I think I'm going to customize all the toolbars in KDE apps to have very few icons, and post screenshots, so all those who claim not to like kde because there are "too many buttons" can see that you can just "theme" it how you like in that respect |
19:20.18 | mae | or maybe just a snippet menu on the left - i donno |
19:20.38 | annma | mae: what you like or not does not matter in fact, the fact is that kdevelop might be of great help for a user |
19:20.51 | annma | so even if you don't use it/like it you can still recomand it |
19:20.57 | mae | PhilRod: i thought of doing the same thing and calling the project knome lol |
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19:21.43 | PhilRod | mae: or *ahem* simplekde |
19:21.47 | mae | annma: yeah, again, i am not arguing this point. But i think there is a niche for people who want a more featureful 'editor' that doesn't get in their way. |
19:22.13 | annma | go in |
19:22.16 | PhilRod | mae: sounds like kate is trying to fit that sort of niche |
19:22.35 | annma | kate is pretty good, I use it for all my coding, doc writig and such |
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19:23.22 | mae | PhilRod: yeah -- kate isn't bad, but it lacks the power of vi for keyboard manipulation (i know thats a moot point since vi has a steep learning curve and not many people can harness this power).. but aside from that a module for debugging in kate would be nice... and you can plugin a debugging system for various languages/platforms |
19:23.36 | genjix | HELP!!! my finger just slipped on delete and enter by accident and I just lost a folder with 2 weeks worth of work :'( |
19:23.47 | mae | trashbin? |
19:24.00 | genjix | i don't know where its located |
19:24.07 | genjix | .Desktop is empty |
19:24.40 | genjix | oh no.... please tell me where I can find the trashbin... |
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19:24.56 | mae | open up konq |
19:24.57 | mae | trash:// |
19:25.09 | mae | err |
19:25.11 | mae | wait thats not right |
19:25.12 | genjix | ... |
19:25.26 | Skrotto | ~/.local/share/Trash |
19:25.28 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, /.local/share/trash is still were things are supposed to be. |
19:25.28 | mae | trash:/ |
19:25.39 | genjix | whew, i thought my home directory was my trashbin for a second there |
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19:25.49 | olczyk | Hi. I want to start a shell from KDE. My default shell is zsh. When it starts it looks at the ZDOTDIR variable to determine where tghe stgartup files are located ( if no ZDOTDIR it looks in a default place). How do I set ZDOTDIR? |
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19:26.17 | genjix | mae: you are an absolute saviour! |
19:26.17 | genjix | thank you so very much. |
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19:26.45 | mae | heh |
19:26.46 | mae | np |
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19:28.29 | annma | genjix: you can have a trash applet in kicker |
19:28.40 | annma | it's cool to have it |
19:28.40 | doleyb | olczyk: how do you want to start the shell? |
19:29.05 | olczyk | From KDE an xterm, a kconsole, or a gnome-terminal. |
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19:29.31 | doleyb | What do you mean "From KDE"? A button, an icon, Alt-f2? |
19:29.53 | olczyk | All of them. |
19:30.47 | Vincent_k | can one delete the stuff in /.local.share/Trash? |
19:31.05 | genjix | annma: i don't usually use trash |
19:31.20 | Vincent_k | just saw I have ~400mb there |
19:31.25 | olczyk | Basically I'm asking how to manipulate the environment that KDE runs in and make sure that child processes inherit that environment. |
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19:32.17 | tchino | how can I reactivate the shade of windows in kde, it take a long time, when i switch between windows |
19:32.32 | doleyb | olczyk: well, the general way is to just have something in your shell's startup script. |
19:32.55 | tchino | or is that in xorg.conf a extension |
19:33.05 | genjix | try kdcop |
19:33.18 | annma | Vincent_k: trash:/ and empty |
19:33.22 | annma | on right click |
19:33.50 | Vincent_k | ok |
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19:35.12 | Chryseus | is there other mailcheckers like korn? |
19:35.31 | Vincent_k | nice ~400mb gone from / |
19:35.33 | Vincent_k | :D |
19:35.54 | annma | frm your home even |
19:35.57 | Vincent_k | never thaugt about it before |
19:36.04 | Vincent_k | no from / |
19:36.17 | Vincent_k | I have been deleting stuff using root |
19:36.54 | tchino | nobody an idea |
19:37.05 | Vincent_k | never thaugt about that it gets moved to trash |
19:37.30 | Vincent_k | my useraccount i just delete without using trash |
19:37.40 | tchino | switch shadow of windows in kde??? |
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19:39.06 | PhilRod | olczyk: put a .sh file in ~/.kde/env that exports the vars you want |
19:39.16 | PhilRod | ~/.xinitrc works too if you're using startx |
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20:07.14 | michael357 | hi I have a question |
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20:07.36 | michael357 | I use xandros which uses a modified version of konquerer for file managment |
20:08.15 | michael357 | I'm not entirely sure why but it has developed the issue of taking 4-6 seconds after startup where it is frozen and occasionally doing the same thing |
20:08.25 | michael357 | when switching areas of the filesystem |
20:08.48 | michael357 | this error is not present on other users nor is it present when I run it program via other user accounts within mine |
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20:09.08 | chr1s | hey everyone |
20:09.10 | oGALAXYo | try this |
20:09.20 | oGALAXYo | michael357: open a terminal (kconsole or xterm) |
20:09.34 | chr1s | I want to add some functionality to KmPlot, but do I need to manually compile kde-base and stuff? |
20:09.38 | oGALAXYo | michael357: enter 'top' and watch it, then use konqueror and switch dirs and see which process gives 100% |
20:10.16 | chr1s | and what do I set as my KDEDIR and QTDIR when I want to use my distro's kde-package? I'm using Debian |
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20:11.11 | michael357 | also oddly it doesn't show up when running standard konqueror |
20:11.15 | michael357 | ok |
20:11.52 | frb | !kdedir |
20:12.08 | frb | how does one use the bot here? |
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20:12.21 | chr1s | !kdedir |
20:12.24 | pinotree | ~kdedir |
20:12.28 | apt | $KDEDIR is the directory your KDE is installed into. You can find out what directory this is with the command "kde-config --prefix" |
20:12.45 | chr1s | hm, it says /usr |
20:12.46 | michael357 | kdeinit |
20:12.52 | michael357 | is the top when the file manager opens |
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20:14.37 | chr1s | and my qtdir? |
20:15.13 | pinotree | if you have debian/ubuntu, it's /usr/share/qt3 |
20:15.48 | chr1s | thanks :) |
20:15.49 | oGALAXYo | michael357: enter 'ps -A' and see if you have something called 'gamin' or 'gammin' or 'fam' running |
20:16.04 | michael357 | ok |
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20:16.12 | oGALAXYo | michael357: i know an issue with 5-6 seconds intervals when having gammin_server or some junk like that running. |
20:16.15 | oGALAXYo | its known to be broken |
20:17.22 | michael357 | no but I do have 14 instances of kdeinit |
20:18.50 | oGALAXYo | thats ok |
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20:20.32 | chr1s | hm, when I try to compile it says configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.3 and < 4.0) (library qt-mt) not found. |
20:21.01 | chr1s | but I have set QTDIR to /usr/share/qt3 |
20:21.01 | oGALAXYo | chr1s: export QTDIR=/<path>/<to>/<your qt> |
20:21.19 | straw | chr1s: does pkg-config --variable=prefix qt-mt report anything useful? |
20:21.32 | michael357 | although xandros file manager is based on konqueror |
20:21.37 | michael357 | it doesn't use the same config file |
20:21.49 | chr1s | straw: it doesn't report anything |
20:21.58 | michael357 | clearly because it doesn't respect the others option of showing or hiding hidden files |
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20:22.25 | michael357 | which I'm guessing is a setting in a file somewhere in home |
20:22.27 | michael357 | right? |
20:22.39 | michael357 | do you know what konquerors config file is? |
20:23.06 | oGALAXYo | konquerorrc |
20:23.23 | straw | chr1s: have you got the qt development packages installed? |
20:23.49 | chr1s | I don't think so, that might be the problem ;) |
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20:24.29 | straw | might have something to do with it :) |
20:24.41 | oGALAXYo | i agree it has something to do with it |
20:26.17 | chr1s | omg, apt-get wants to remove about 395 MB of installed packages when I try to do that. |
20:26.40 | Lues | o_0 |
20:26.43 | Lues | ohh noez |
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20:27.13 | chr1s | all this trouble, and the only thing that I want to do is add the faculty function to KmPlot |
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20:28.19 | Noldo | Who is the one that wants to hear me whine about klipper? |
20:28.40 | oGALAXYo | Noldo: depends for what version of kde you report it :) |
20:28.44 | oGALAXYo | Noldo: so what version ? |
20:30.10 | Noldo | 3.4.2 it seems, the one in debian testing |
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20:31.10 | hayzel | Hi. I installed and setuped my lirc remote control fine. And I try to find a way to show it up in the remotes of kde... The kde lirc icon appears fine, it flashes when I press a remote button.. but I cannot find a way to show it on the kdelirc remote list so I could add some actions... any ideas? |
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20:37.05 | Oleg_ | people, kdevelop says, "checking for Berkeley DB >= 3... configure: error: no - please install Berkeley DB >= 3 and <= 4.1" |
20:37.11 | Oleg_ | even though I did |
20:37.22 | Oleg_ | export PATH=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.0/bin:$PATH |
20:37.32 | oGALAXYo | wrong |
20:37.33 | pinotree | do you have the devels? |
20:37.38 | Oleg_ | oops |
20:37.50 | oGALAXYo | and a export path dont solve that either |
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20:38.26 | Oleg_ | so, I need to install both the database and devel package? |
20:38.57 | Noldo | Oleg_: compilethings usually want the dev package even if theu don't mention it |
20:39.19 | nefertum | it's possible with konqueror kill the popups?? |
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20:40.37 | peaker | Arrrrrrrrg!!! Konq just asked me whether to overwrite or resume. I said resume, and it overwrote anyhow!! |
20:40.43 | peaker | Lost hours and hours of download :( |
20:40.58 | peaker | Typical of Microsoft, not of KDE :( |
20:40.59 | Oleg_ | I am not sure what else I need to install! |
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20:42.50 | oGALAXYo | peaker: next time activate kget inside konqueror :) |
20:43.29 | oGALAXYo | and you can hardly blame konqueror for a user mistake :) |
20:43.37 | oGALAXYo | not all servers who sent files support resume |
20:43.44 | oGALAXYo | they simply overwrite then and sent again. |
20:43.49 | Noldo | well anyhow, Remove whitespaces on action -options doesn't do what it says |
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20:45.11 | peaker | oGALAXYo: Its not a user mistake |
20:45.26 | peaker | oGALAXYo: If the server does not support resume, and the user selected RESUME, the program does not delete Gigabytes of user data |
20:45.27 | oGALAXYo | neither a konqueror one |
20:45.37 | peaker | It says "Resume is not supported, cancel or overwrite" |
20:45.47 | peaker | Now I use kget, but can it be trusted? |
20:45.48 | oGALAXYo | hmm yes thats a valid argument. |
20:45.54 | oGALAXYo | yes kget rocks |
20:46.21 | Peaker | I let it download kubuntu's dvd all day long, and now I restarted :( |
20:46.25 | pinotree | and kget2 will rock more |
20:49.10 | oGALAXYo | kget2 ? |
20:49.11 | oGALAXYo | cool |
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21:08.15 | firephoto | i'm having issues with ebay and certain pages in konqueror, it looks like it's searching for the page in the local path. |
21:08.30 | firephoto | access("/usr/kde/3.5/bin/http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofindtype=13&ssPageName=h:h:fitem:US", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
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21:09.15 | firephoto | and those repeat in the strace going through all the $PATH locations. |
21:11.01 | aseigo_xnore | firephoto: what pages, and what is it (not) doing exactly? |
21:11.31 | firephoto | http://search.ebay.com/ws/search/AdvSearch?sofindtype=13&ssPageName=h:h:fitem:US that page |
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21:11.39 | firephoto | and it works sometimes, but others it times out. |
21:11.57 | firephoto | when it times out it seems to be searching the $PATH for that page ? |
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21:28.34 | ponto | In KDE 3.5 beta the whole windos has a blue border (the same color as the titlebar). Is it possible to get only the title in blue and the rest in the same gray as in previous versions of kde? |
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21:29.50 | arthurb | Hi, just installed kde 3.4.3 and none of my devices show up on the desktop... |
21:30.06 | oGALAXYo | ponto: all previous versions of kde had all blue.. maybe your distro uses a specific theme. |
21:30.11 | arthurb | ( although yes, there are all selected ) |
21:31.53 | arthurb | my mistake some do actually |
21:32.03 | ponto | oGALAXYo: all previous versions? |
21:33.18 | arthurb | forget about the all thing actually |
21:34.48 | arthurb | but if I plug in a usb key, it gets automounted in /media/volumename while konq tries to open /media/sda1 |
21:35.03 | edude05 | hi everyone |
21:35.26 | edude05 | I was wondering if someone could help me install 3.4.3 in debian sarge |
21:36.51 | eisregen | edude05: #debian =) |
21:37.06 | edude05 | eisregen: Ok |
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21:40.04 | Oleg_ | people! |
21:40.15 | Oleg_ | I installed Berkeley DB |
21:40.26 | Oleg_ | why ./configure of kdevelop can't find it? |
21:40.30 | zero0 | i installed :) |
21:43.04 | Oleg_ | people! |
21:43.15 | Oleg_ | why kdevelop's configure can't find it? |
21:45.07 | eisregen | Oleg_: wrong version ? |
21:45.32 | Oleg_ | my version of DB is 4.0.14 |
21:45.41 | Oleg_ | and configure says: |
21:45.48 | Oleg_ | checking for Berkeley DB >= 3... configure: error: no - please install Berkeley DB >= 3 and <= 4.1 |
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21:47.58 | arthurb | but if I plug in a usb key, it gets automounted in /media/volumename while konq tries to open /media/sda1... any idea ? |
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21:50.04 | Oleg_ | people! |
21:50.12 | Oleg_ | why can't configure find DB? |
21:50.15 | Oleg_ | anybody! |
21:50.19 | Oleg_ | please help! |
21:50.24 | oGALAXYo | because you are doing all wrong |
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21:50.35 | oGALAXYo | tar xfjv db-blah.tar.bz2 |
21:50.45 | straw | Oleg_: ./configure --help |
21:50.57 | oGALAXYo | cd db-blah/build_unix |
21:51.09 | oGALAXYo | ../configure --prefix=/blah --enable-compat185 |
21:51.17 | oGALAXYo | make && make install && ldconfig |
21:51.25 | straw | Oleg_: that should show you some environment variables you can export |
21:51.37 | Oleg_ | compat185 in kdevelop or DB? |
21:51.52 | oGALAXYo | guess |
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21:53.31 | Oleg_ | Build DB 1.85 compatibility API |
21:53.52 | Oleg_ | kdevelop can't be built if I don't enable it in DB? |
21:54.15 | straw | Oleg_: particularly, LDFLAGS and CPPFLAGS |
21:55.34 | straw | ie, export LDFLAGS=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.0/lib:$LDFLAGS |
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21:55.57 | _root | hi my friends |
21:56.06 | _root | My name is Neo |
21:56.23 | straw | Oleg_: and export CPPFLAGS=/usr/local/BerkeleyDB.4.0/include:$CPPFLAGS |
21:56.24 | _root | now wake up |
21:56.55 | _root | I need help you!!!! |
21:57.12 | Oleg_ | straw: that's what I did just now |
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21:58.44 | _root | I NEED PROGRAMMING ANY THREADS IN LINUX OF COURSE |
21:59.03 | cpw | woh there |
21:59.08 | Oleg_ | oh, man |
21:59.13 | N9NU | root eh |
21:59.17 | _root | YES |
21:59.23 | Oleg_ | kdevelop found DB, but now I have another problem: |
21:59.31 | Oleg_ | You have no kdelibs documentation generated by Doxygen installed. |
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21:59.33 | Oleg_ | You should install Doxygen from www.doxygen.org, reconfigure |
21:59.33 | Oleg_ | and rebuild the kdelibs sources. |
21:59.50 | Oleg_ | I guess I will need to re-compile kdelibs for hours |
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22:00.21 | N9NU | 3.5 RC1 is very nice |
22:00.44 | Oleg_ | I want this documentation |
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22:00.51 | Oleg_ | it will make things prettier |
22:00.51 | _root | Excusme any were know about of SNMP Version Two |
22:01.12 | pinotree | _root: a) don't scream in here, please b) we're #kde, not #linux |
22:01.13 | cr0 | can anyone direct me to documentation about how to enable networked sound? |
22:01.20 | _root | It's about mib |
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22:02.31 | un1v4c | can you tell me how to use KBFX themes? |
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22:03.23 | N9NU | i still havent been able to get kbfx icon in the Kcontrol--->Look N Feel section yet |
22:03.45 | _root | hi i nedd help you with SNMP version 2 and Processes in Linux with threads |
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22:04.27 | cpw | that sentence made no sense whatsoever |
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22:05.25 | woodefec | hi |
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22:05.49 | _rootv2 | ok here Iam |
22:06.01 | _root | excusme any know about snmpv2 and threads |
22:06.05 | woodefec | anyone aware when there'll be a final release of kde 3.5? |
22:06.13 | _root | hi rootv2 |
22:06.24 | _rootv2 | hi I have a problem with my MIB |
22:06.38 | woodefec | _root : r u ircing as root? |
22:06.56 | _root | yes |
22:07.05 | _root | correct |
22:07.15 | RinkyDinks_RJ | quick question regarding kioslaves & remote hosts. i want to use delete key when browsing through fish://, but del key is bound to "Move to trash". is there a way to setup a trash folder on remote host? |
22:07.21 | _rootv2 | I'm working with my personal MIB but the snmp daemon doesn't recognize that |
22:08.01 | _root | maybe need startup daemon AGENT |
22:10.36 | _rootv2 | I have donde that |
22:10.39 | _rootv2 | done |
22:10.51 | _root | thankyou cpw |
22:11.04 | _root | <PROTECTED> |
22:11.57 | _root | good bye my friends |
22:12.17 | _root | let's get together soon |
22:12.20 | _root | bye |
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22:14.57 | _root | OK |
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22:15.19 | _NEO | can anybody help me? |
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22:16.28 | RinkyDinks_RJ | _NEO: just ask your question |
22:17.26 | _NEO | ok. I'm making my MIB, but the snmp daemon does NOT recognize it |
22:17.58 | _NEO | I already configure snmpd.conf file |
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22:23.57 | _NEO | ... |
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22:32.41 | wizard123 | hi! |
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22:35.36 | Oleg_ | I have an error while compiling doxygen for kdelibs: |
22:35.48 | Oleg_ | <stdout>: In function `void configYY_init_buffer(yy_buffer_state*, FILE*)': |
22:35.48 | Oleg_ | <stdout>:2062: error: `isatty' undeclared (first use this function) |
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22:36.14 | nefertum | is there any way to make de kde panel tinier than 24px? |
22:36.51 | RinkyDinks_RJ | maybe find config file and edit manually ? |
22:37.05 | RinkyDinks_RJ | something like kickerrc or similar |
22:37.21 | nefertum | kickerrc? |
22:37.23 | nefertum | i dont know... |
22:37.52 | RinkyDinks_RJ | ~/.kde/share/config/kickerrc check there |
22:38.02 | nefertum | aha, thanks |
22:38.12 | olczyk | Is there a flash plugin for konqueror |
22:38.14 | olczyk | ? |
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22:41.23 | nefertum | RinkyDinks_RJ: it's now tinier, but now the icons are bad displayed |
22:41.40 | nefertum | like fat icons |
22:41.44 | RinkyDinks_RJ | the smallest icons are 16x16. |
22:41.58 | RinkyDinks_RJ | how do you expect a good graphic to be contained in that? |
22:42.39 | nefertum | i've put a size panel of 18px |
22:42.52 | RinkyDinks_RJ | it may be resizing the larger icons to fit into that |
22:43.22 | nefertum | perhaps, the problem is tha in the control center, i cannot put the panel icons tinier than 32px |
22:43.40 | nefertum | it's not enable the option to be tinier |
22:44.03 | RinkyDinks_RJ | yeah i seethat |
22:44.08 | RinkyDinks_RJ | might be an option somewhere |
22:45.17 | thiago | olczyk: yes, there is one |
22:45.25 | nefertum | yeah? |
22:45.29 | nefertum | where is it? |
22:45.59 | RinkyDinks_RJ | i don't see an option in kickerrc |
22:46.02 | Blissex | Konqueror can use all/most the plugins for Netscape/Mozilla, so the Flash one too. |
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22:48.36 | RinkyDinks_RJ | how nice, he says there is the option but stays silent after he mentions it. |
22:49.47 | nefertum | RinkyDinks_RJ: in ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals |
22:49.51 | nefertum | there are some section |
22:50.05 | nefertum | and there are the icons size for each one |
22:50.10 | nefertum | i will try it |
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22:51.34 | nefertum | it doesnt work |
22:51.48 | RinkyDinks_RJ | :( |
22:52.09 | nefertum | i will check the file... |
22:52.12 | RinkyDinks_RJ | pitty. what happens? |
22:52.28 | nefertum | ? |
22:52.43 | RinkyDinks_RJ | scaled down icons are what you get? |
22:53.03 | nefertum | mmm, shall i send you a screenshot? |
22:53.13 | RinkyDinks_RJ | nah |
22:53.16 | nefertum | ok |
22:53.21 | RinkyDinks_RJ | might want to make a bug request |
22:53.42 | RinkyDinks_RJ | just might get into kde 4 |
22:53.49 | nefertum | they are not the same icons, they are like bigger |
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22:53.54 | JensB | Hi everybody |
22:54.00 | RinkyDinks_RJ | hi. |
22:54.25 | JensB | I just discovered that I can remote control my KDE desktop with my sony ericsson k700i phone .. without configuring anything at all |
22:54.28 | JensB | via bluetooth |
22:54.47 | RinkyDinks_RJ | ... and? |
22:54.56 | JensB | I get a small popup from "kdebluetoothd" that asks me for my phone's PIN and then I can start the app on the phone that "looks like" a remote control and move the mouse around |
22:55.03 | nefertum | RinkyDinks_RJ!!! |
22:55.10 | JensB | however, not all keys work. I'd like to customize them. ;) |
22:55.23 | nefertum | perhaps the solution is in the .desktop file in /usr/share/icons/foo/ |
22:55.38 | nefertum | index.desktop |
22:55.45 | RinkyDinks_RJ | what's in that file? |
22:55.48 | JensB | any ideas where those keys are configured? |
22:56.09 | nefertum | loo: |
22:56.12 | nefertum | PanelDefault=32 |
22:56.12 | nefertum | PanelSizes=16,24,32,48,64,128 |
22:56.19 | nefertum | sorry, look :P |
22:56.28 | RinkyDinks_RJ | i've only got crystalsvg installed. there's no index.desktop file in it |
22:56.37 | nefertum | i will try it |
22:56.49 | RinkyDinks_RJ | JensB: control center |
22:57.03 | RinkyDinks_RJ | JensB: what do yo mean keys dont' work? |
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22:57.46 | RinkyDinks_RJ | ? |
22:57.50 | RinkyDinks_RJ | did it work? |
22:57.56 | JensB | RinkyDinks_RJ, well, I have a remote control tool on my phone, that seems to send keyboard commands to my PC via bluetooth (I see them when a konsole window is active). |
22:57.57 | nefertum | it works :) |
22:57.59 | nefertum | yeah |
22:58.03 | RinkyDinks_RJ | cool |
22:58.05 | nefertum | now the only thing is the taskbar icons |
22:58.07 | nefertum | :) |
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22:58.20 | nefertum | i supose i have to modfiy the same file |
22:58.25 | JensB | most of those are fine, but some aren't used and I'd like to add keyboard shortcuts for "F"(fullscreen" and "Alt-Q" (quit) |
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22:59.26 | AssociateX | Hello people |
22:59.35 | AssociateX | Yippy! It's Friday |
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23:00.11 | AssociateX | anyone have kde/arts with alsa using timidity to play midi files? |
23:00.29 | RinkyDinks_RJ | JensB: you can configure per-application keyshortcuts in most kde apps by doing settings -> configure shortcuts. is that what your looking for? |
23:01.00 | tek | what are the start params for "no border" and "start on desktop x"? |
23:01.05 | RinkyDinks_RJ | Jens_B: global window shortcuts for kde are in control center however |
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23:02.41 | RinkyDinks_RJ | what's latest version of koffice? |
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23:03.23 | RinkyDinks_RJ | 1.4.2? |
23:03.37 | thiago | 1.4 |
23:03.38 | tek | yop |
23:03.42 | tek | 1.4.2 |
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23:06.38 | AssociateX | anyone using timidity as a midi mapper? |
23:06.54 | tek | what are the start params for "no border" and "start on desktop x"? |
23:07.21 | thiago | tek: kstart --help |
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23:08.26 | tek | phew, have to emerge kstart first ;) |
23:08.38 | DirkGently | You are missing |
23:08.38 | DirkGently | OpenGL support has been disabled. |
23:08.44 | DirkGently | what am I missing? |
23:08.50 | thiago | DirkGently: OpenGL |
23:08.59 | tek | *g* |
23:09.26 | DirkGently | thiago: is there an opengl-devel or something for SuSE? |
23:09.50 | thiago | I have no idea |
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23:09.54 | thiago | I've never used SUSE |
23:09.58 | thiago | (now it's capital U) |
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23:11.03 | DirkGently | looks like a small u on the logo |
23:12.00 | thiago | no, it doesn't |
23:12.55 | thiago | see http://www.opensuse.org/skins/monobook/opensuse.gif |
23:12.59 | DirkGently | it has a tail.. capital U doesn't |
23:13.17 | thiago | and http://www.novell.com/img/banner/banner_sl10.gif |
23:13.35 | thiago | see the opensuse.org and suse.com websites |
23:14.43 | DirkGently | oh all right.. the u on the console has a tail.. maybe that's not been changed yet |
23:15.11 | RinkyDinks_RJ | ... |
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23:27.51 | chrisag | Is there a way to 'shrink' the grid (spacing) between icons |
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23:36.14 | thiago | LokeDK: use whatever GNOME uses for a control panel |
23:37.35 | LokeDK | yeah helped just to start gnome-theme-manager |
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23:56.25 | moi | #linux |
23:56.38 | moi | #linuxtv |
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