| 00:00.09 | willwork4foo | nooo |
| 00:00.22 | willwork4foo | infinite supply of doughnuts is far more possible |
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| 00:01.26 | willwork4foo | just keep making sure that my box of doughnuts never ever ever gets empty (or goes stale) by continual replenishment of new doughnuts by a special order of doughnut making bakers, right past the end of time and beyond |
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| 00:01.44 | willwork4foo | there you go. |
| 00:02.58 | _poison | heh .... now just define the end of tim :^) |
| 00:03.05 | _poison | s/tim/time/ |
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| 02:16.05 | fremte | I want a really good 3D desktop |
| 02:16.13 | fremte | like http://www.sun.com/software/looking_glass/ |
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| 02:30.43 | apokryphos | good luck |
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| 02:50.37 | mhall | Hello all. I am trying to write an xsession file to get some modifier key mappings I need for international character input. What is the proper command to exec at the end to get KDE running? I never needed it before since I just relied on the default invocation system, however it works. |
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| 03:00.10 | mhall | Hello all. I am trying to write an xsession file to get some modifier key mappings I need for international character input. What is the proper command to exec at the end to get KDE running? I never needed it before since I just relied on the default invocation system, however it works. |
| 03:00.43 | grepper | startkde |
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| 03:01.52 | thiago | mhall: doesn't kxkb work for you? |
| 03:02.57 | mhall | i did not know it existed |
| 03:03.06 | mhall | can you please explain the proper KDE method of configuring this |
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| 03:03.31 | thiago | KDE Control Centre, Regional & Accessibility, Keyboard Layout |
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| 03:05.58 | mhall | and once i make this tweak |
| 03:06.08 | mhall | it becomes cached by the KDE configuration infrastructure? |
| 03:06.11 | mhall | that's deluxe |
| 03:08.07 | thiago | yes |
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| 03:11.26 | fredE | hey i just want to copy my theme settings to another user. how can i do that? |
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| 03:15.04 | oneforall | why when t I print and the margins are set to zero is the bottom getting cut off still . using kghost and kpdf |
| 03:15.14 | oneforall | kghost cuts off less than kpdf |
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| 03:16.51 | _nancy | hello |
| 03:16.53 | _nancy | I'm trying to figure out where alsa config saves its files. I'm going to use alsaconf to update my sound drivers to take advantage of my sound cards features. but when I do I lose sound altogether in kernel 2.4 |
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| 03:17.20 | _nancy | bloody mouse |
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| 03:29.38 | oneforall | you did alsactl store |
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| 03:42.54 | oneforall | hmm cups has letter legal etc and custom but I see kde doesn't have custom that could be why setting margins to 0.00 isn't working |
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| 03:48.11 | posthuman | I'm having an odd problem with amarok. It seems to be taking around 70 - 95 % of my cpu all the time (after an upgrade to kde 3.5beta 2) I believe |
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| 04:26.42 | FSHSchmo | got a quick question, I ran k9copy and when it was done reading the disc it crashed with a signal 11 (sigsegv) error |
| 04:27.19 | FSHSchmo | I can post the backtrace if ya like (Im using kde that came with mandriva 2006) |
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| 04:50.19 | Octane | anyone here know how to use Moodin, the theme engine |
| 04:50.37 | Octane | i installed it, i just have no idea what to do now |
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| 05:03.27 | sparr | I am using KDE and kdm, is there a way I can make KDE start certain apps when I log in? |
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| 05:07.28 | SadEagle | sparr: for just your user, or globally? |
| 05:07.52 | sparr | SadEagle: for my user |
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| 05:08.53 | SadEagle | sparr: sec, basically,you can place .desktop files or symlinks in an autostart dir in ~/.kde, but I am not sure of the path |
| 05:09.33 | SadEagle | ~/.kde/Autostart, it seems |
| 05:10.21 | sparr | thanks, ill try that |
| 05:11.12 | SadEagle | I sure hope I am right ;-) |
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| 05:44.12 | elucas | Spricht hier jemand Deutsch |
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| 05:49.37 | dori | I'm trying to configure ACPI on my laptop, the dialog boxes for ACPI Config in control panel remain greyed out even after I've setuid the klaptop_acpi_helper binary. Anyone know how to fix it? |
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| 06:00.30 | ritalin | how do i import bookmarks into konq? |
| 06:01.39 | SadEagle | ritalin: via the bookmark editor |
| 06:03.05 | ritalin | i dont see the option in the editor |
| 06:03.55 | ritalin | doh found it |
| 06:03.57 | ritalin | ty |
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| 06:49.55 | fatejudger | has anyone had a problem with the "media:/" part of Konqueror? |
| 06:49.59 | fatejudger | I can't see any of my drives |
| 06:50.04 | fatejudger | or devices |
| 06:50.06 | fatejudger | or anything |
| 06:50.22 | fatejudger | it works on my desktop, but not here on my laptop |
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| 07:01.41 | ritalin | meep meep |
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| 07:06.18 | hanumani | I'm trying to play a movie in mplayer (full screen) while simulanteously showing a counter in the bottom right corner. This counter is currently a JS/HTML creation, but could be replicated in something else. I'm toying with translucent windows in KDE on SuSe 9.3 but can't get it working, any ideas? |
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| 07:26.32 | incorrect | hi. are there issues with kopete and msn? |
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| 07:31.04 | ritalin | not here |
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| 07:32.51 | incorrect | it used to work, now it just stopped |
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| 07:37.04 | canllaith | incorrect: what version ? |
| 07:37.29 | canllaith | incorrect: check kopete.kde.org to see if you have the latest stable. |
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| 07:44.06 | incorrect | i have 10.1 and 10.3 is out |
| 07:44.18 | ritalin | upgrade! |
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| 07:47.15 | ritalin | you guys have any screenshots? |
| 07:47.51 | sredna | ritalin: Of what? |
| 07:48.05 | ritalin | of kde! |
| 07:48.53 | sredna | ritalin: Go to www.kde.org, or there are some at osnews of the kde 3.5 beta, you can find a link over at http://dot.kde.org |
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| 07:49.32 | ritalin | yeah but i wanna see your guys |
| 07:49.57 | sredna | I don |
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| 07:50.09 | sredna | ' have a lot of recent shots, but I can make one for you |
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| 07:50.55 | ritalin | w00t |
| 07:53.55 | fatejudger | does anyone here know how to use KDE to map laptop volume keys? |
| 07:56.26 | sredna | ritalin: http://83.73.149.229:8002/allmostkde35.png |
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| 07:56.56 | sredna | fatejudger: Xmodmap + khotkeys |
| 07:57.04 | ritalin | Requested resource: /allmostkde35.png |
| 07:57.13 | ritalin | Error: Not found |
| 07:57.19 | sredna | Let me check |
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| 07:58.09 | sredna | ritalin: Try again, kde forgot to add the extension |
| 07:58.13 | bssteph | http://bssteph.irtonline.org/images/kde-3.5-images |
| 07:58.17 | sredna | Hi bssteph |
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| 07:58.34 | bssteph | hey sredna, how goes it |
| 07:59.10 | mixandgo | hi guys, any ideea how to configure my volume + and volume - buttons (on laptop) ? |
| 07:59.16 | mixandgo | the mute button works |
| 07:59.30 | bssteph | lol. popular question lately |
| 07:59.32 | sredna | Uhm, I wrote sane udev rules for my usb devices, but I can't figure out how to make the kde media:/ tingy to show my cdroms or usb storage camera, or how to make hal mount the camera |
| 07:59.53 | bssteph | mixandgo: if you see them in xev, use khotkeys |
| 08:00.28 | bssteph | sredna: so nothing shows up in media:/ ? |
| 08:00.29 | sredna | Hal doesn't automount my cd devices either, but I don't know if it's supposed to do so |
| 08:00.41 | sredna | bssteph: Some of my harddisks, and my usb pen when mounted |
| 08:00.49 | sredna | Or rather, when plugged in |
| 08:00.55 | bssteph | i think you need uh.. whatsit for automounting |
| 08:00.59 | bssteph | just a sec |
| 08:01.16 | sredna | That part is not important, I don't mind mounting |
| 08:01.29 | sredna | But I'd like for things to show up |
| 08:01.37 | bssteph | right, yeah |
| 08:01.42 | bssteph | since that's kind of the point and all ;) |
| 08:02.00 | mixandgo | bssteph, i get this : RROR: Communication problem with khotkeys, it probably crashed. |
| 08:02.13 | bssteph | i don't know why some things would show up and others not, sredna |
| 08:02.29 | sredna | Na, maybe I will figure it out sometimes |
| 08:02.51 | sredna | I'd like to be able to autostart digikam when my camera is plugged in |
| 08:03.30 | bssteph | mixandgo: do you see a "khotkeys" or "input actions" in control center -> regional & accessiblity? |
| 08:03.54 | bssteph | sredna: well, you could easily do that once media:/ is working properly so it sees it |
| 08:04.04 | sredna | Yes |
| 08:04.34 | sredna | (if digicam have a way to specify to start downloading from the commandline, I don't know that even) |
| 08:05.00 | sredna | --detect-camera |
| 08:05.09 | mixandgo | bssteph, ok, works from cpanel, but how do I say what to do when... |
| 08:06.20 | sredna | bssteph: What would be smart was if kde could use the detection of the dominant mime types to filter the suggestions for actions |
| 08:07.12 | bssteph | mixandgo: make a new action of type keyboard shortcut -> dcop call, make the keyboard shortcut the volume button, and make the dcop call kmix.Mixer0.decreaseVolume() |
| 08:07.22 | bssteph | run kdcop and navigate that dcop call |
| 08:07.44 | bssteph | sredna: yeah, it'd be nice. maybe one day |
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| 08:08.22 | sredna | bssteph: The alegoritm is there, for setting folder icons, so it shuldn't be a hard task |
| 08:08.43 | mixandgo | bssteph, but when I press the side button, it does not appear as a shortcut |
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| 08:09.05 | bssteph | mixandgo: do you get useful stuff when you press the button in xev? |
| 08:09.14 | mixandgo | yes |
| 08:09.18 | mixandgo | I get keycode 176 |
| 08:10.02 | bssteph | mixandgo: you probably need to use Xmodmap to assign that keycode to a button |
| 08:10.16 | bssteph | i don't think khotkeys can use just the keycode unless it thinks it means something |
| 08:10.43 | bssteph | sredna: doesn't seem like it should be hard, no |
| 08:10.50 | mixandgo | hmm.. and what do I asign it to |
| 08:10.51 | mixandgo | ? |
| 08:11.16 | sredna | Lol |
| 08:11.53 | bssteph | mixandgo: on this keyboard it is XF86AudioLowerVolume for example |
| 08:12.08 | bssteph | you might want to play with the layouts and see if there's something that already knows about it |
| 08:12.21 | bssteph | i -think- you can assign different layouts on the fly, but it's been a while |
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| 08:13.13 | mixandgo | is there some kde util to do that ? or just edit my /usr/share/keymaps/... ? |
| 08:13.48 | bssteph | mixandgo: keyboard layouts in the same section of the control center |
| 08:14.14 | bssteph | try changing the keyboard model and see if you see new/different events in xev |
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| 08:14.32 | bssteph | you could probably look at the contents of /usr/share/keymaps/ (or wherever) for hints |
| 08:16.19 | bssteph | it's /usr/lib/X11/xkb/geometry/ that has the actual keyboard model files |
| 08:17.46 | mixandgo | i should be able to set XF86AudioLowerVolume for my keycode... |
| 08:17.58 | mixandgo | but I don't see how to do it from cpanel |
| 08:18.16 | bssteph | there's nothing to do it manually afaik |
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| 08:18.38 | davi_ | What kde theme do you advise me to a 1024x728 portatil ? |
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| 08:36.38 | we2by | what's the application called that can read text on my screen/? |
| 08:37.36 | ritalin | eyes |
| 08:39.06 | sredna | Hm, the whole hal thing isn't realy working well. If I do nothing when I plug in my usb pen, and then plug it out, kde fails to remove the icon. And after that I can't get kde to react when I plug it in again |
| 08:39.26 | incorrect | hmm to get the latest release of kopete i have to unmask all of kde and upgrade |
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| 08:39.35 | sredna | In fact, something named 'hald-prope-stor' is then going bonkers, and can't be killed. |
| 08:39.57 | sredna | So the whole thing is probably 2-3 years from beeing usable |
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| 08:56.28 | Flendor | Hello. |
| 08:57.55 | PhilRod | hey Flendor :-) |
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| 08:58.11 | Flendor | Heya Phil, how are you this morning? |
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| 08:59.20 | PhilRod | 40 minutes later, I've finally managed to sort it out... |
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| 08:59.37 | PhilRod | gotta go, sorry - see you round |
| 09:00.33 | Flendor | OK |
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| 09:37.12 | Drone4four | i just did a CTRL + N with KWord...did i just lose the unsaved data in my previous document?! |
| 09:38.21 | lippel | Drone4four: ctrl+n opens a new window here |
| 09:38.27 | oGALAXYo | ctrl+n only opens a new window. |
| 09:38.49 | Zeep | Hi - I have a problem |
| 09:39.11 | Zeep | Every time I click a link on my desktop, amaroK opens up, altough the desktop-files seem to be correct |
| 09:39.17 | Drone4four | well apparently i have no other windows to choose from |
| 09:39.23 | Flendor | Hi anders, you here? |
| 09:39.33 | sredna | Hi Flendor :) |
| 09:39.35 | oGALAXYo | Zeep: ask in #amarok |
| 09:39.47 | Zeep | oGALAXYo: Okay, thanks |
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| 09:40.10 | sredna | Drone4four: No, in case you have unsaved data kword opens a new window |
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| 09:40.22 | Drone4four | bascially i CTRL + N replaced all my unsaved work with a blank page |
| 09:40.40 | Drone4four | i can do this again and again by typing stuff and then doing a CTRL N |
| 09:40.59 | oGALAXYo | well you also open new kword instances iirc.. |
| 09:41.03 | sredna | Drone4four: Look at your window list |
| 09:41.07 | oGALAXYo | look at the bottom task panel and see.. |
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| 09:41.20 | oGALAXYo | exactly the window list or the task panel.. however you call it. |
| 09:41.23 | sredna | Flendor: Can I do anything for you? |
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| 09:41.48 | Flendor | Oh, no sorry, just wanted to say hi |
| 09:42.02 | Drone4four | sredna, oGALAXYo, lippel i see a single KWord bar in my window list |
| 09:42.02 | Flendor | And then just dazed off for a minute :/ |
| 09:42.12 | oGALAXYo | Drone4four: click it. |
| 09:42.25 | oGALAXYo | Drone4four: it should pop up a few dozen others.. if you have grouping enabled. |
| 09:42.35 | sredna | Hi Flendor :) I'm restarting kde all the time, I'm trying to get the media:/ thing to work |
| 09:42.35 | Drone4four | grouping?? |
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| 09:42.43 | sredna | Which is appearingly not possible |
| 09:42.45 | oGALAXYo | Drone4four: yeah grouping of same windows. |
| 09:42.48 | sredna | But I do tey |
| 09:42.49 | sredna | Try |
| 09:43.01 | Drone4four | i see no such 12 windows...just the one |
| 09:43.10 | Flendor | Oh. :/ Hope you get it right! |
| 09:43.11 | sredna | Drone4four: Hold down ALT and TAB and lok at the list |
| 09:43.45 | Drone4four | ALT TAB shows me a single option |
| 09:43.58 | Drone4four | there is no list |
| 09:44.04 | sredna | DAMNED GENTOO |
| 09:44.33 | sredna | Drone4four: What is that single option? |
| 09:44.50 | Drone4four | "KOFFICE Workspace [modified]" |
| 09:45.02 | sredna | Does slackware handle dead damons with grace? Becase #¤&%/(¤## gentoo does NOT |
| 09:45.04 | Drone4four | and then there is an icon on the left with a question mark |
| 09:45.19 | Drone4four | dead damons? |
| 09:45.31 | sredna | Drone4four: Don't you have a 'windows' or 'documents' menu in the koffice workspace? |
| 09:45.56 | sredna | Well, hald is started, but not running. And now I can't start or stop or restart it |
| 09:46.00 | sredna | Because GENTOO SUCKS |
| 09:46.06 | Flendor | Ow. :/ |
| 09:46.19 | Drone4four | i see no windows or documents menu |
| 09:46.25 | Flendor | Never tried Gentoo, but Slackware was really smooth |
| 09:46.40 | sredna | Not that I don't suspect other distros so be equally misbehaved in this matter, mandrake is surely as stupid |
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| 09:47.07 | bugi-san | sredna: bad day ? ;-) |
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| 09:47.57 | Drone4four | i btw cannopt reduce resize my KOffice workspace ont he left or right borders...strange |
| 09:48.30 | Drone4four | reduce or resize* |
| 09:48.50 | sredna | bugi-san: I'm just irritated because this is one more day proving that linux/kde is YEARS away from being a vital alternative for non-geek users |
| 09:49.03 | sredna | It's simply not stable |
| 09:49.32 | bugi-san | sredna: Gentoo is not for non-geek users :-) |
| 09:50.07 | bornio | OMG! I`M A GEEK! |
| 09:50.16 | bugi-san | and my kde is quite stable |
| 09:50.20 | sredna | bugi-san: The distro is not the reason. I don't believe other distros are worse or better. The chances of things going wrong is too big |
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| 09:50.34 | Drone4four | IMO no distro is ready yet for non-geek users....and i'd almost prefer it this way as long as i can figure out how to recover KWord just destroies everytime i open a new document |
| 09:50.43 | bornio | sredna: obviously you did not try the latest Ubuntu :) |
| 09:50.56 | Drone4four | OH |
| 09:51.00 | Drone4four | lol |
| 09:51.01 | Drone4four | found it |
| 09:51.02 | Drone4four | strange |
| 09:51.06 | Drone4four | extremely strange |
| 09:51.10 | sredna | bornio: Now you are ridicolous. LOTS of problems are reported with kubuntu |
| 09:51.17 | bugi-san | Drone4four: IMO there are few distros which are ready like SUSE, Ubuntu, Mdk, |
| 09:51.36 | bornio | sredna: That was exactly my point, dear. =] |
| 09:52.03 | Drone4four | uh oh, looks like bornio is a female.... (usage of the term "dear") |
| 09:52.03 | bugi-san | sredna: Kubuntu /= Ubuntu, Kubuntu is really unstable |
| 09:52.20 | bugi-san | But Ubuntu works great |
| 09:52.20 | bornio | Drone4four: No, its being polite and kind. |
| 09:52.22 | sredna | bugi-san: Any debian based distro faces the potential problems of things not working at all due to dependency issues |
| 09:52.34 | bugi-san | sredna: O_o |
| 09:52.44 | bugi-san | i did have big problems with apt |
| 09:52.46 | Drone4four | it could also be flamboiancy... |
| 09:52.46 | bugi-san | i didn't |
| 09:52.47 | Drone4four | lol |
| 09:52.51 | sredna | bugi-san: Lots of people come in here complaining about some kde app not working, and it appears that they miss some important atom of kdelibs |
| 09:52.56 | Drone4four | i'm just so happy i didn't lose this precious data |
| 09:53.09 | sredna | I haven't tried suse a lot |
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| 09:53.26 | bugi-san | sredna: thats true that some apps like to crash but all in all kde is very usable |
| 09:53.47 | sredna | But I did use mandrake, its a few years ago but it was definately not even close to being ready for a wide audience |
| 09:53.52 | bugi-san | sredna: im suse fan, and kde in suse works good |
| 09:54.26 | bugi-san | sredna: mandrake has good marketing, nothing more |
| 09:54.35 | sredna | Ime, the best KDE is the vanilla one, compiled from sources. All those distro modifications are usually not doing anytihgn good to kde |
| 09:54.59 | sredna | But even the best kde is not ready for a wide audience yet |
| 09:55.21 | oGALAXYo | sredna: why do you think that ke is not ready for the wide audience ? |
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| 09:55.35 | sredna | You can't have a desktop system where the tooltips are equal to the gui labels and call it ready :o |
| 09:55.35 | bugi-san | sredna: so your gentoo kde should work better than my suse kde but it seems that you have more problems than me, hmm so maybe its not true ;-) |
| 09:55.36 | bornio | sredna: I am Very impressed with KDE3.5 Beta2. |
| 09:55.51 | sredna | oGALAXYo: Too many problems with things not working |
| 09:55.58 | Drone4four | as am i with KDE 3.5 |
| 09:56.02 | oGALAXYo | sredna: i was using gnome for many years and it sucked totally, it didnt provide good enought applications (working, not crashing or feature complete) to get anything serious done. |
| 09:56.19 | oGALAXYo | sredna: then you should use GNOME for 1 month and you know what you have with KDE :) |
| 09:56.25 | sredna | bornio: Like the problems with resizing kicker, or the flashing? And the startup not behaving equal any time? |
| 09:56.38 | sredna | oGALAXYo: I'm not talking about gnome, im talking about KDE |
| 09:56.43 | bornio | sredna: I honestly do not know what you are talking about. |
| 09:56.58 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: oh no, not again wm wars ;-) Gnome 2.10/2.12 is a big step forward |
| 09:57.12 | sredna | oGALAXYo: There are LOTS of small issues all over kde that simply are not acceptable |
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| 09:57.37 | oGALAXYo | sredna: yeah i know.. but i do compare kde with gnome and knowing both i can tell you that KDE is far ahead of everything.. and gnome claims from itself to be ready for corporate.. so i wonder why you believe kde is not ready for mainstream while a different much much inferior desktop claims to be corporate ready already. |
| 09:57.50 | bornio | sredna: Would you like to tell us about them? Because I assure you, Windows has just as many issues which are "not acceptable". |
| 09:57.56 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: no. 2.10 and 2.12 are no step forward... |
| 09:58.00 | bornio | Not that I am comparing a WM with an OS, but still. |
| 09:58.12 | oGALAXYo | sredna: sure, nothing is perfect.. |
| 09:58.29 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: for me Gnome is usable since 2.8 version |
| 09:58.32 | sredna | oGALAXYo: Kde is also ahead of windows or macosx in many areas. But there are also too many little problems, and things that can potentially go wrong if you aproach things from the wrong direction |
| 09:58.58 | Drone4four | my next question about KWord is: how come when i start up a new general document, i can't type anything? even when i click in the centre of a fresh, blank page, i can't type anything? |
| 09:59.02 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: GNOME doesnt offer any productive applications and no its not ready.. it has been said to be ready but it isnt.. |
| 09:59.16 | Drone4four | ALT works, but none of the qwerty keys |
| 09:59.18 | oGALAXYo | sredna: i agree.. |
| 09:59.31 | oGALAXYo | jesus this fucking dog outside is driving me nuts.. |
| 09:59.32 | sredna | oGALAXYo: Like when I tried printing images with digikam, or use kword to edit documents with tables, or ... and kopete has a really strange dialog that appears ALLWAYS when I start it, tellimg me that some numbers wants to be my contacts. |
| 09:59.36 | oGALAXYo | its barking for 2 hours in a go now. |
| 09:59.50 | Drone4four | can we shift the discussion from GNOME back to KDE....please |
| 09:59.53 | Drone4four | =D |
| 09:59.58 | Drone4four | a shutgun? |
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| 10:00.11 | oGALAXYo | Drone4four: for that fucking dog outside. |
| 10:00.17 | sredna | Drone4four: We are discussing KDE, or at least some of us |
| 10:00.21 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: well i don't agree with you but this is only my opinion ;-) |
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| 10:00.49 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: well i tell ya, i was a former GNOME hacker, contributed to it for over 6 years and was a former GNOME foundation member.. |
| 10:00.50 | bugi-san | Drone4four: im only saing that KDE and Gnome are ready for dekstop |
| 10:00.59 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: simply accept the fact that gnome is horrible broken and useless. |
| 10:01.03 | Drone4four | now, can someone please answer my question about my keyboard not responding in KWord? |
| 10:01.13 | bornio | http://www.danga.com/mogilefs/ <=- wtf? |
| 10:01.22 | sredna | Drone4four: Restart the app |
| 10:01.25 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: ok, i use Gnome from time to time and iam happy with it |
| 10:01.35 | sredna | bornio: Go trolling smowehere else |
| 10:01.47 | Drone4four | sredna, i tried that |
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| 10:02.21 | Drone4four | =/ |
| 10:02.27 | bornio | sredna: ? |
| 10:02.32 | sredna | Drone4four: I have had a lot of fights with kword, but it does respond to key presses - just not allways in the way I expect ;\ |
| 10:02.34 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: the problem with gnome is that nothing really works, that stuff is not working reliable enough, that things are crashing, that even trivial things can not be achieved.. and there are a lot of serious tools missing for gnome to get productive work done.. for example their project manager (planner) is not half as good as 'task juggler' for kde for example.. same applies for gnome tools in any areas.. |
| 10:02.53 | Drone4four | oh god |
| 10:02.53 | sredna | bornio: If you post a URL please explain why it is relevant to us :) |
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| 10:03.20 | bornio | sredna: it claims to be a new FS... |
| 10:03.22 | sredna | Drone4four: Maybe the focus stealing prevention hid a modal dialog |
| 10:03.33 | sredna | bornio: And that is relevant to KDE because? |
| 10:03.43 | bornio | sredna: sigh... |
| 10:03.53 | Drone4four | ty sredna for your advice |
| 10:03.59 | Drone4four | i really gtg |
| 10:03.59 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: so you understand why i compare GNOME with KDE and why i dont understand why sredna complains about KDE.. since its so much mature compared to gnome.. and he (or she) would know when running it... and thats why i believe everyone should be thankful for KDE to be as it is now... but i agree that there is always something you can improve. |
| 10:04.11 | Drone4four | lol |
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| 10:04.23 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: ok, ok i can't argue with ex developer ;-) But for my daily use it is really enough. I tried Gnome in Ubuntu and Fedora 4 and it really worked good for me :-) |
| 10:05.19 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: these are not GNOME as found on their ftp.. these are GNOME + a shitload of extra patches + 20 redhat or ubuntu people working just on it, fixing and patching it + adding dozen of other things to it. |
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| 10:05.26 | oGALAXYo | a vanilla gnome is simply broken. |
| 10:05.29 | sredna | Btw, for the general discussion of KDE being ready for desktop or not, the focus stealing prevention hiding dialogs that are modal to the current application, or needed for them to move on such as FTP authorization dialogs when opening files over ftp, is another example. It is completely confusing even for a long time kde user such as me |
| 10:06.24 | bugi-san | All i need in wm like KDE is less bugs and more stability. |
| 10:06.40 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: but well these are just things that you see.. as a developer you can take my word that gnome from architecture is a broken mess.. you can polish stuff to look better but this doesnt change the ground work behind it. |
| 10:06.56 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: the stability issues you refering too is compile related.. |
| 10:07.25 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: everyone knows that the C++ compile in gcc was a stepchild for many years.. now with gcc 3 and gcc 4 the things have changed drastically and the stability has been improved a lot. |
| 10:07.48 | oGALAXYo | if the compile generates broken code or if people add 'leet' optimization flags to it then it usually tends to generate broken and thus crashing code. |
| 10:07.56 | bugi-san | oGALAXYo: so KDE 4 will be the more stable version right? |
| 10:08.10 | oGALAXYo | i compile my kde with -O0 -g and nothing else and i consider my kde to be stable |
| 10:08.12 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: no.. |
| 10:08.21 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: i said that this is a COMPILER issue |
| 10:08.21 | bugi-san | no? |
| 10:08.23 | oGALAXYo | not a KDE issue. |
| 10:09.02 | oGALAXYo | read the last 4-5 lines |
| 10:09.09 | sredna | ... though I doubt it will fix the problems with flickering |
| 10:09.12 | bugi-san | yes but new distros will be using gcc 4 |
| 10:09.20 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: right. |
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| 10:09.36 | bugi-san | so new kde should be more stable then on these distros |
| 10:09.39 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: so the distros that use gcc 4 now.. then you can expect that kde 3.4 or 3.5 should be rock stable already. |
| 10:10.06 | Flendor | Gone; see you later.. |
| 10:10.10 | oGALAXYo | the better the C++ support in GCC the better the stability in KDE and other C++ related programs. |
| 10:11.28 | oGALAXYo | bugi-san: so if you do this ... a) install gcc 4.0.2, b) get KDE from SVN (3.5) and you compile it with default optimize flags (better is to not use any) then you will already get a rock stable and fast KDE. |
| 10:12.16 | bugi-san | im using new suse 10 which already has gcc 4.0.2 but i dunno if kde was compiled using it |
| 10:12.29 | oGALAXYo | many people (and even distros) compile stuff with extra leet flags such as -O3 -s -ffomit-frame-pointer -funroll-loops -faddmyleetsettings here .. and dozen other flags.. some even use -march=athlon-xp and so on.. |
| 10:12.34 | oGALAXYo | this usually leads into broken code. |
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| 10:19.20 | sredna | Deleting the kickerrc file took care of the flashing in some applets :) |
| 10:19.52 | sredna | But now I can't get rid of the animated tooltips (maybe I overlooked the correct option, but disabling toolitps didn't work) |
| 10:22.51 | sredna | Hm, now kicker is completely dead :o |
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| 10:24.06 | leeghoofd | hi, do you know a good (kde) program to create simple html websites? |
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| 10:24.21 | bugi-san | leeghoofd: nvu, bluefish, oo.o |
| 10:24.49 | bugi-san | quanta |
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| 10:26.09 | sredna | leeghoofd: Kwrite |
| 10:26.15 | sredna | (or kate) |
| 10:26.31 | leeghoofd | thanks bugi-san, that's a lot of suggestions, the reason I asked is because I don't know how such a program is called so couldn't google :) |
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| 10:27.22 | bugi-san | leeghoofd: ok np :-) |
| 10:27.47 | leeghoofd | sredna, I know those two programs but then I prefer vim :) I mean that I can type text but when I go to a new line I don't want to type <br> for instance |
| 10:27.51 | bugi-san | sredna: but it works under kde so it doesnt really matter :-P |
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| 10:29.35 | leeghoofd | so I thinkg I mean that I want to type a document and that the program generates html code :) I'm currently downloading nvu and will also try the other suggestion and see what program can do that :) |
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| 10:30.36 | crus0r | heh hi :) I'm trying to find out if Kontact supports RSS feeds, unfortunately the kontact.org website is down :'( |
| 10:30.52 | sredna | leeghoofd: Kword |
| 10:30.59 | sredna | :o |
| 10:31.15 | sredna | crus0r: It does, using the kaggregator part |
| 10:31.36 | lippel | akregator even |
| 10:31.41 | leeghoofd | scode, Kword can do that? isn't kword pagina based, while html documents are just one big scrolable page? |
| 10:31.44 | sredna | lilalinux: Right :) |
| 10:32.26 | sredna | leeghoofd: Actually, ig your needs are modest kword can do that fine. It's not for designing webpages, but it's fine for simply formatting text |
| 10:32.36 | lippel | which reminds me that we should consider a renaming for kde4 |
| 10:33.11 | leeghoofd | ok, I will try it |
| 10:35.24 | Worf | leeghoofd: if you want to create serious html pages, use quanta. but that's a html editor, not some WYGIWYS thingie |
| 10:36.25 | leeghoofd | I want to write documentation that has to placed online, normally I do this in vim and type the <br> and <font> stuff myself but I though because what I want is very simple I could also use some kind of program to generate the html |
| 10:37.11 | Worf | hmm... documentation... |
| 10:37.18 | oGALAXYo | ok back from lunch |
| 10:37.23 | sredna | leeghoofd: In that case I believe kword is actually a nice choice, because it offers the full comfort of word processing, and the html export is working resonably well with simple documents |
| 10:37.41 | sredna | Worf: Docbook |
| 10:38.19 | sredna | Afaik, the world is yet to see a working wysiwyg docbook editor, allthough they come closer |
| 10:38.31 | sredna | ARGH, kicker is still flashing away as I type |
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| 10:39.22 | leeghoofd | ok, I'm trying kword html export right now :) |
| 10:40.07 | Worf | i think i tried kword html export once, and iirc it really generates nice html compared to some other "Word"... |
| 10:40.38 | sredna | Worf: :o |
| 10:41.10 | _RADIOhead | morning #kde |
| 10:41.14 | _RADIOhead | hello sredna :) |
| 10:41.23 | Worf | sredna: yeah, that was actually what i was thinking - i don't know about docbook, and i wondered if there is some ... let's say "beginner-friendly" editor |
| 10:41.31 | sredna | Msword is probably producing the most scary html in existense, it's even worse than their wysiwig html editor, what ever the name is |
| 10:41.40 | sredna | Hi _RADIOhead |
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| 10:42.32 | leeghoofd | Aah I see, the html export of kword just ignores that I typed it on different (A4) pages, that's ok so I will use kword, thanks again for the help :) |
| 10:42.47 | moret | hi guys |
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| 10:45.00 | Worf | argh - again somebody who asks me to install skype... time to install some open source voip software... can somebody recommend something? preferrably something that integrates well with kde? |
| 10:46.12 | sredna | Worf: Go to apps:voip ;) |
| 10:46.28 | bugi-san | kcall |
| 10:46.46 | bugi-san | skype will be integrated with kopete in 3.5 |
| 10:46.49 | sredna | He, that is empty |
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| 10:48.55 | leeghoofd | bugi-san do you mean that the kde-3.5 beta already has skype support in kopete? |
| 10:49.36 | NullAcht15 | huh? I thought skype was a closed protocol? |
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| 10:54.28 | leeghoofd | NullAcht15, it is, I think they reverse engeneerd it |
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| 10:58.21 | NullAcht15 | leeghoofd: But wasn't Skype, somewhat like ICQ/MSN/AIM and so on, designed in a way that there can only be one server(cluster)? |
| 10:59.18 | lippel | there is a skype api anyone can use. no need to reverse engineer anything afaik. |
| 11:01.37 | leeghoofd | lippel, I'm not sure but I think that what you say isn't true, the api you mean is a api to acces skype (not the protocol but the program) so you would still need to have the closed source program skype installed |
| 11:03.18 | leeghoofd | NullAcht15, yes, skype is fully controled by the skype company, In my opinion amuch better alternative is Jabber and the voice 'plugin' that google designed, I think it wont take long until kopete has support for that |
| 11:04.21 | Zeep | For me, there is no choice - almost all my collegues use Skype, so I don't have much of a choice :-) |
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| 11:05.32 | lippel | leeghoofd: i don't see anything skype related in kopete (from SVN) |
| 11:06.34 | NullAcht15 | (stupid network efects) |
| 11:07.05 | leeghoofd | lippel, I read somewhere the devs of kopete are working on it but as far as I know it isn't finsihed yet |
| 11:07.41 | lippel | i don't see anything skype-related in the code either. |
| 11:07.55 | lippel | but well, there are many directories... ;-) |
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| 11:08.15 | lippel | maybe its in branch or something |
| 11:08.52 | leeghoofd | lippel, the roadmap says they will have a skype plugin in the future (check kopete.org and than click roadmap) I can't get a direct link :s |
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| 11:15.01 | juli | algun hispano hablante |
| 11:15.32 | Worf | hmpf - kcall looks very promising, but fails compiling here... |
| 11:16.25 | juli | anybody know who configure pcmcia wifi comceptronic in suse |
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| 11:19.45 | Worf | oooh - it builds... |
| 11:20.32 | Worf | err - nope... it doesnt |
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| 11:29.52 | fanti | hey! after dist-upgrading my debian/unstable, the kde fonts looks very ugly (too big!!) |
| 11:30.01 | fanti | see: http://fanti.staff.spin.de/screen.png |
| 11:30.05 | fanti | what's wrong here? |
| 11:31.02 | fanti | "53 column window is too narrow" ??? |
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| 11:31.47 | AssociateX | Hello people |
| 11:32.15 | AssociateX | what is the sound package called that contains kmix and all the other kde sound tools? |
| 11:32.37 | koala_man | kdemultimedia? |
| 11:32.52 | AssociateX | not sure, but I'll look |
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| 11:39.36 | fanti | brb |
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| 11:55.30 | ritalin | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29557 |
| 11:55.38 | ritalin | that kicker looks awesome |
| 11:55.45 | ritalin | that a 3.5 feature? |
| 11:57.08 | Tm_T | about yes |
| 11:57.17 | oGALAXYo | hmm whats so special about that ? |
| 11:57.33 | Tm_T | nothing I guess |
| 11:57.35 | Tm_T | http://www.kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo/foo_074.png |
| 11:57.40 | Tm_T | just like that one |
| 11:58.20 | oGALAXYo | oh you dont run konversation ? |
| 11:59.57 | Vincent_k | anyone know why the xhat systray icon is missing in kde? |
| 12:00.03 | apokryphos | that kicker looks awful :D. Too small; impractical |
| 12:00.24 | oGALAXYo | Vincent_k: try konversation... |
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| 12:00.32 | oGALAXYo | Vincent_k: it's kde's XChat client :) |
| 12:00.40 | Vincent_k | I know |
| 12:00.41 | fanti | no idea about my fonts problem?? |
| 12:00.48 | cbr | no, dont try konversation, it's horrible :D |
| 12:00.53 | Vincent_k | but I always used xchat |
| 12:00.55 | apokryphos | Konversation is nice |
| 12:01.00 | Gentle | is konversation that Kopete plugin you see on that screenshot? |
| 12:01.00 | cbr | i have xchat-systray working in kde |
| 12:01.01 | Vincent_k | it's nice |
| 12:01.06 | apokryphos | Gentle: no |
| 12:01.07 | Vincent_k | but xchat is nicer |
| 12:01.10 | Vincent_k | :D |
| 12:01.11 | apokryphos | Gentle: it's a whole irc client in itself |
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| 12:01.16 | apokryphos | xchat is fugly |
| 12:01.29 | cbr | haha |
| 12:01.32 | apokryphos | and I hate the way it handles a lot of things (many customizable, I'm sure, of course) |
| 12:01.32 | cbr | konversation is |
| 12:01.33 | cbr | :D |
| 12:01.33 | Gentle | apokryphos, yes, but, I didn't know Kopete can do IRC, and that screenshot shows Kopete doing irc |
| 12:01.36 | oGALAXYo | yeah in new xchat they put the close button below next to the scroll left and right button |
| 12:01.40 | apokryphos | Gentle: it can |
| 12:01.41 | NullAcht15 | I find your lack of taste disturbing |
| 12:01.54 | apokryphos | Gentle: IRC is IM, technically, remember. Kopete is KDE's IM-client |
| 12:02.12 | Gentle | apokryphos, IRC is not IM regarding the IM specifications |
| 12:02.16 | apokryphos | still, Konversation isn't my IRC client of choice. KVirc is the best :D, but it's not for everyone ;-) |
| 12:02.19 | NullAcht15 | No, IRC and IM are something different |
| 12:02.26 | apokryphos | no, IRC is technically IM |
| 12:02.28 | Gentle | if IRC merely had PRIVMSG and no channels, it would be IM |
| 12:02.28 | Vincent_k | don't like kopete |
| 12:02.29 | apokryphos | and one of the earliest forms |
| 12:02.38 | Vincent_k | gaim is my client of choise |
| 12:02.39 | apokryphos | no, that's a baseless assumption |
| 12:02.42 | cbr | but msn has group chats too |
| 12:02.55 | NullAcht15 | IRC: realtime many-to-many communication, IM: realtime one-to-one comm. with presence notification |
| 12:02.57 | Gentle | cbr, yet those group chats don't happen on the server |
| 12:03.02 | cbr | gaim+xchat is the perfect im combo.. although irssi is nice too |
| 12:03.16 | oGALAXYo | Gentle: http://img102.imageshack.us/my.php?image=snapshot22rk.jpg |
| 12:03.20 | oGALAXYo | Gentle: thats conversation |
| 12:03.25 | oGALAXYo | cbr: gaim does irc too |
| 12:03.26 | Gentle | IM = Chats occur between users, IRC = chats occur between server and users |
| 12:03.30 | apokryphos | NullAcht15: absolute rubbish; IRC = internet relay *chat* |
| 12:03.33 | oGALAXYo | but i dislike gaim.. its broken. |
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| 12:03.42 | apokryphos | Gentle: no, MSN chat requires going through a server too |
| 12:03.58 | Gentle | apokryphos, only the auth part, the chat messages are sent peer to peer |
| 12:04.00 | cbr | oGALAXYo: gaim's irc interface is not an option for me |
| 12:04.03 | lippel | Gentle: so jabber is no IM when using MUC? |
| 12:04.04 | NullAcht15 | apokryphos: so, is chat something different than communication? |
| 12:04.16 | apokryphos | chat is a form of communication |
| 12:04.35 | cbr | and oGALAXYo gaim is in no way broken |
| 12:04.44 | oGALAXYo | cbr: it is. |
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| 12:04.48 | Gentle | lippel, IRC can NOT send messages to others without the server being involved, while Jabber can, that's the difference between IM and Chat |
| 12:04.50 | cbr | works for me |
| 12:05.04 | cbr | Gentle: so msn isnt IM? |
| 12:05.07 | apokryphos | Gentle: precisely, it isn't; so why you're mentioning it is, suffice it to say, odd. |
| 12:05.15 | oGALAXYo | cbr: it usually crashes here when trying to get my jabber buddy from the list.. |
| 12:05.17 | Gentle | cbr, msn has ctc specifications |
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| 12:05.27 | oGALAXYo | cbr: and the new gaim version dont have a 'connect' button anymore.. |
| 12:05.40 | apokryphos | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat |
| 12:05.47 | oGALAXYo | its annoying if you get a timeout and need to restart gaim only to connect since there is no re-connect button anymore. |
| 12:05.52 | cbr | jabber support is pretty horrid but works in the basics |
| 12:05.55 | ritalin | http://portfolio.iu.edu/crcastle/kde-raver.png |
| 12:05.58 | ritalin | check it out :P |
| 12:05.59 | cbr | and i dont use jabber that much anyway |
| 12:06.01 | ritalin | 2nd day on kde |
| 12:06.16 | cbr | oGALAXYo: which version are you talking abou? |
| 12:06.22 | oGALAXYo | i usually use kopete to have my jabber buddy list fixed, which gaim trashes... |
| 12:06.28 | oGALAXYo | cbr: CVS |
| 12:06.29 | apokryphos | ritalin: you gotta change your kicker there. Why confine it to so little space? |
| 12:06.44 | cbr | oGALAXYo: what about the Accounts dialog? |
| 12:06.48 | apokryphos | though, I can't really stand non-trans kickers anymore :D |
| 12:06.51 | oGALAXYo | cbr: removed |
| 12:07.07 | cbr | oGALAXYo: well you cant judge CVS code though :p |
| 12:07.09 | lippel | Gentle: with jabber, messages are also routed through the server |
| 12:07.14 | oGALAXYo | i mean the accounts dialog is still there. but the 'connect' buttons are removed. |
| 12:07.21 | cbr | oGALAXYo: by looking at CVS, i could say that kde4 sucks :p |
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| 12:07.30 | Gentle | lippel, they needn't, you can send directly to other clients |
| 12:07.36 | oGALAXYo | cbr: well which CVS ? kde doesn't use CVS |
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| 12:07.45 | cbr | technically |
| 12:07.55 | Gentle | lippel, you need the server to tell you where that other user is (ip wise), then you send directly |
| 12:07.56 | oGALAXYo | technically kde doesnt use cvs :) |
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| 12:08.19 | apokryphos | cvs is the grandaddy; went to shiny new svn |
| 12:08.20 | lippel | Gentle: but that's not the default behaviour |
| 12:09.10 | seth | Since my update in debian unstable my google search bar is gone. I can't find it in Toolbar Settings as a destination neither. Any ideas how I can get it back there? |
| 12:09.50 | Gentle | lippel, as far as users I know are concerned, their jabberDs only will be messaged when the user is offline, to store the message for the user. If the user is online, the messages aren't routed through server |
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| 12:10.03 | fanti | seth: have you got any trouble with your fonts after the update? |
| 12:10.07 | Gentle | might be a question of config files, of course, yet I never seen another behaviour |
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| 12:11.27 | seth | fanti, not really... is that linked in any way? |
| 12:12.39 | fanti | seth: no, but i've got trouble with my fonts today after upgrading my debian/unstable and i was just wondering whether there are others having same problem as i have. |
| 12:13.06 | oGALAXYo | fanti: you can solve fonts problems easily |
| 12:13.17 | oGALAXYo | fanti: run 'fc-cache -vf' as root and then relogin into kde. |
| 12:13.46 | ritalin | apokryphos: Im coming from OS X |
| 12:13.51 | fanti | oGALAXYo: i'll try. |
| 12:13.52 | ritalin | the dock grew on me |
| 12:13.53 | lippel | Gentle: at least in jive messenger, everything goes over the server |
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| 12:14.13 | apokryphos | ritalin: that's not a dock; that's a panel. |
| 12:14.19 | apokryphos | ritalin: plenty of docks available on kdelook.org |
| 12:14.33 | Gentle | lippel, well I could tell you of several ICQ clients that can only send to server, while the protocol says you send to the server when everything else fails |
| 12:14.38 | fanti | brb |
| 12:15.05 | lippel | Gentle: jive messenger is a server implementation, not client |
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| 12:15.37 | Gentle | lippel, but, to clear this up in some way, it's not exactly defined what is IM and what is Chat, it's a question of common use, IM tools are usually used to message single persons and chat programs are usually used to message channels |
| 12:16.10 | Gentle | but most IM tools can do chatrooms and most chat tools allow private messages, so it's not really defined after all |
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| 12:17.17 | fanti | oGALAXYo: does not work :( my fonts are still too big |
| 12:17.38 | fanti | oGALAXYo: see http://fanti.staff.spin.de/screen.png |
| 12:17.42 | oGALAXYo | fanti: now go into the kontrol-center and the fonts section and click on default. |
| 12:18.35 | lippel | Gentle: actually i don't like this artificial distinction, if single person means one-to-one and chat means channel. |
| 12:18.45 | fanti | oGALAXYo: i didn't do change any font-settings! they are "on default" |
| 12:18.57 | lippel | Gentle: if i want to invite a third person in jabber, i need to create a channel, invite people, and switch to the channel |
| 12:19.02 | oGALAXYo | fanti: click it anyways. |
| 12:19.17 | fanti | oGALAXYo: nothing happens |
| 12:19.17 | lippel | Gentle: that sucks. it would be better if IM with n persons would be possible instead of just two |
| 12:19.31 | oGALAXYo | fanti: hmmm dunno then. |
| 12:19.43 | Gentle | lippel, agree, but that would be no IM but p2p chat then |
| 12:19.45 | lippel | Gentle: instead of one-to-one and MUC separated |
| 12:19.55 | oGALAXYo | fanti: but thats no kde issue actually.. |
| 12:19.56 | Gentle | yet again, p2p chat is just another of these marketing words |
| 12:20.05 | oGALAXYo | fanti: thats a font setup issue in your x server.. |
| 12:20.06 | lippel | i like it as it is done in skype |
| 12:20.09 | lippel | UI-wise |
| 12:20.14 | lippel | don't know about the protocol |
| 12:20.16 | oGALAXYo | fanti: usually 'fc-cache -fv' as root solves this stuff.. |
| 12:20.26 | ritalin | apokryphos: good advice, I made it smaller in size but it goes across screen |
| 12:20.36 | ritalin | not as crowded |
| 12:20.46 | apokryphos | good idea |
| 12:21.05 | ritalin | kde is so awesome |
| 12:21.22 | fanti | oGALAXYo: i got this problem after dist-upgrading my debian/unstable today. before this upgrade, all was fine! |
| 12:21.30 | apokryphos | ritalin: =) |
| 12:21.41 | oGALAXYo | fanti: have you tried asking in #debian ? |
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| 12:22.37 | Gentle | fanti, did they ban you after one or after 2 minutes? |
| 12:22.55 | ritalin | heh |
| 12:23.01 | fanti | Gentle: no :-) but i got no answer... |
| 12:23.15 | Gentle | they must have been good upon today |
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| 13:18.41 | Furio_G | hi folks, I've added my sound mixer to the panel, but it added the large icon. My panel size is set to large because I like the large icons for my taskbar shortcuts. But for kmix i'd prefer the small icon |
| 13:19.39 | Dark_Lord_X | Hi. I am a new Linux user. (I have Fedora Core 4). I want to know if is possible install KDE from linux haven't a graphics |
| 13:21.13 | ritalin | "install KDE from linux haven't a graphics" |
| 13:21.18 | ritalin | what? |
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| 13:25.07 | Dark_Lord_X | linux without a graphics environment |
| 13:25.45 | Gentle | not entirely without, but it theoretically can work with framebuffers |
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| 13:27.56 | Worf | i wonder if it is really this what he wanted to know :-) |
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| 14:02.28 | sredna | Re |
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| 14:08.51 | Arafangi1n | How do I have two panels? |
| 14:09.41 | bugi-san | right click on main panel and add another one |
| 14:09.58 | Arafangi1n | Ahh, thanks. |
| 14:10.14 | Gentle | btw, can you have panels only for certain desktops? |
| 14:10.32 | Arafangi1n | Gentle: What would be the point of that? |
| 14:11.08 | Gentle | Arafangi1n, having kopete run in a panel so windows on that desktop don't maximize over it, but still not having Kopete on all desktops |
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| 14:16.15 | Arafangi1n | How do I "reload" kde, without killing my windows? |
| 14:16.42 | Arafangi1n | The session is playing up in a funny way, and windows are slowly "creeping" upwards, plus I can't move them down. |
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| 14:17.00 | Arafangi1n | Also seems to have switched to my "other" desktop, even though it only has one. |
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| 14:21.35 | Arafangi1n | Aww, stuff this. |
| 14:21.38 | Arafangi1n | *restarts session* |
| 14:21.43 | Arafangi1n | email program has disappeared, anyway. |
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| 14:27.08 | incorrect | im getting operation is not supported while connecting to msn with kopete |
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| 14:27.15 | incorrect | anyone know what causes it? |
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| 14:34.10 | we2by | any one knows where openoffice puts its icons when installing using rpm? |
| 14:34.21 | bugi-san | ->office |
| 14:34.46 | bugi-san | in kmenu right? |
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| 14:34.57 | pinucset | we2by you must install the icons packaje |
| 14:35.16 | we2by | Pinaraf: where do I get the icons package/? |
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| 14:35.24 | we2by | I have OO 2.0 allready installed |
| 14:35.51 | bugi-san | hmm afaik rpm package provides icons |
| 14:36.10 | we2by | yea, but I dunno where they are located |
| 14:36.49 | bugi-san | we2by: the same place where other icons are? |
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| 14:51.03 | meme_ | about kio_devices_mounthelper.. |
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| 14:51.40 | meme_ | it really should use command 'umount -l' for unmounting, rather than just 'umount' |
| 14:52.54 | meme_ | ? anybody there ? |
| 14:53.23 | Tm_T | hm |
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| 14:53.46 | Tm_T | meme_: I think #kde-devel would be better place |
| 14:53.52 | meme_ | ok. |
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| 14:57.35 | oGALAXYo | heh osnews.com is such a fucking retarded place. |
| 14:58.06 | oGALAXYo | all the gnome morons jump in kde threads bashing and talking it to death.. but as soon as someone from kde makes a calmed neutral comment inside an gnome article its immediately modded down. |
| 14:58.13 | oGALAXYo | what poor pathetic little suckers. |
| 14:59.08 | oGALAXYo | slashdot used to be worse.. but got better recently but osnews.com topped it twice the time of slashdot. |
| 14:59.16 | oGALAXYo | in being a sucking place. |
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| 16:10.53 | ritalin | hi |
| 16:13.07 | jcurry | hello :) |
| 16:13.41 | meme_ | lo |
| 16:14.29 | ritalin | i know this is lame but anyone speak german? |
| 16:14.48 | PhilRod | #kde.de |
| 16:14.53 | ritalin | I need help on some homework |
| 16:14.54 | ritalin | heh |
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| 16:17.38 | meme_ | anybody know how to restart panel? |
| 16:17.48 | jcurry | meme_, dcop kicker kciker restart |
| 16:17.57 | jcurry | sorry, both are "kicker" |
| 16:18.04 | jcurry | execute that in a konsole |
| 16:19.31 | jhutchins | jcurry: Hey, thanks for that. I've killed it a couple of times, never new how to restart without restarting the session. |
| 16:19.38 | meme_ | I'll restart the whole thang... |
| 16:20.01 | meme_ | "start menu" crashes for some reason when I click it. |
| 16:20.14 | meme_ | maybe it's my configurations. |
| 16:20.21 | jcurry | jhutchins, sure :) |
| 16:20.49 | jcurry | meme_ should check his ~/.xsession-errors file |
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| 16:25.19 | jhutchins | Looks like I can do some cleanup based on that file too, back in a while. |
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| 16:26.13 | drynish | Hi! :) |
| 16:26.50 | drynish | I've searched on the web and I don't know how KDE could detect my xinerama |
| 16:27.15 | drynish | Is there a way to tell him, hey use xinerama settings... (so maximize fonction would not go across the two screens) |
| 16:29.52 | jcurry | no clue :) |
| 16:30.01 | jcurry | That xinerama stuff is black magic too me |
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| 16:30.48 | kakei_ | hi guys how cna i change the colors of my task bar i'm using Kde 32. |
| 16:30.51 | kakei_ | .32 |
| 16:30.53 | kakei_ | 3.2 |
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| 16:31.48 | jcurry | kakei_, you should upgrade...but, you should be able to chnage your entire panel background |
| 16:31.55 | jcurry | kakei_, by specifying an image |
| 16:32.08 | kakei_ | jcurry which distro do u use? |
| 16:32.15 | jcurry | kakei_, debian |
| 16:32.24 | jcurry | kakei_, sid, to be exact |
| 16:32.26 | kakei_ | oh,ic hmm How to Specify the image |
| 16:32.40 | jcurry | kakei_, kcontrol > Desktop > Panels |
| 16:32.58 | jcurry | Should be somewhere there, i'm not too familiar with 3.2, it is ancient |
| 16:33.00 | jcurry | :) |
| 16:33.05 | kakei_ | hmm |
| 16:33.11 | kakei_ | i'm not sure how to upgrade with Mandriva |
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| 16:33.19 | jcurry | kakei_, ask in 3mandriva |
| 16:33.24 | jcurry | #mandriva, sorry |
| 16:33.33 | xnet | is there a way to hide icons on one of my many desktops? |
| 16:34.03 | jcurry | xnet, per desktop? i don't think so |
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| 16:34.33 | xnet | dig it. |
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| 16:35.37 | jcurry | xnet, you should file a wishlist bug for that, it sounds easy to implement and quite useful |
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| 16:37.39 | meme_ | soft reboot |
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| 16:40.14 | jcurry | meme_, you should check ~/.xsession-errors in the future, it may be very helpful |
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| 16:46.41 | meme_ | will kde-team be sued because konqueror bundles web-browser? |
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| 16:48.27 | Tm_T | err? |
| 16:48.35 | sredna | ? |
| 16:48.39 | Tm_T | meme_: wtf |
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| 16:49.01 | moi1392 | hello |
| 16:49.14 | meme_ | Well, that was case with MS, wasn't it? |
| 16:49.15 | moi1392 | I have some problems with konstruct and kde 3.5 beta 2 |
| 16:49.30 | Tm_T | meme_: not really, Konqueror IS web-browser |
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| 16:49.51 | Tm_T | you don't pay at all of using KDE |
| 16:50.02 | Tm_T | you can install any part of KDE you like, just as you like |
| 16:50.04 | moi1392 | kde 3.5 seems to depend on hal 0.5.x, I can't compile it under debian sid because hal is 0.4.x |
| 16:50.39 | StevenR | meme_: no kde will not be sued, becuase kde is not an operating system, it doesn't have a monopoly and doesn't force it on the user |
| 16:50.46 | moi1392 | but on KDe website, required version of hal for kde 3.5 is 0.4 |
| 16:53.26 | meme_ | btw, using konqueror (3.3.2) is way fun. Compare to ms explorer or nautilus. |
| 16:55.34 | Tm_T | :p |
| 16:55.35 | jcurry | moi1392, try #kde-devel |
| 16:55.50 | moi1392 | jcurry: ok thx :) |
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| 17:16.00 | meme_ | so.. |
| 17:16.10 | meme_ | is there a swallower applet? |
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| 17:24.14 | Guard][an | hello ppl |
| 17:24.34 | Guard][an | does kde have something to detect wireless access points, connect to them etc? |
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| 17:25.08 | jcurry | Guard][an, nothing official, i think, but check kde-apps.org...they may have something |
| 17:25.18 | Guard][an | ok thx |
| 17:25.19 | jcurry | meme_, what is a swallower applet? |
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| 17:27.53 | Morydd | when adding an application to the panel, is it possible to set it to always open on a specific desktop? |
| 17:29.16 | electrik | is there a way to change/remove kde keyboard shortcuts, ctrl-f4 is bound to switching to desktop4,which is fine and dandy, but i have a program that uses ctrl-f4 as a keyboard shortcut in it, that is more useful to me |
| 17:30.44 | electrik | Morydd, yes, try something like 'kstart --desktop 2 --activate --window "xterm"' |
| 17:30.49 | sredna | Morydd: You'd need to edit the button and prepend the exec command with something like 'kstart --desktop <number> -- ' |
| 17:30.55 | electrik | xterm being the program to open |
| 17:31.05 | jcurry | electrik, kcontrol > regional and accessibility > keyboard shortcuts |
| 17:31.34 | sredna | electrik: Sure, in the control center just disable/edit the shortcut for that action |
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| 17:31.54 | sredna | Hm, I'm slow - I better go eating--- |
| 17:32.00 | electrik | ahh yes, thanks jcurry and sredna |
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| 17:32.22 | REdOG | hellos |
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| 17:32.59 | REdOG | where does kde set a "themes" colors at? |
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| 17:33.45 | REdOG | particularly the background color for text input boxes |
| 17:33.58 | jcurry | REdOG, search in ~/.kde/share/apps or in ~/.kde/share/config |
| 17:34.15 | kiwi_uk | REdOG: you could use strace on the Control Panel to see what files it changes... possibly as a last resort :) |
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| 17:34.27 | sredna | Kdeglobals |
| 17:34.40 | jcurry | REdOG, or it may be defined in the style , and then you wouldn't be able to chnage it...which style are you using? |
| 17:34.57 | sredna | You should use the control center to change it |
| 17:35.23 | sredna | jcurry: Afaik that is no true - is you enable a color scheme, kde just copy the values to the config file |
| 17:35.30 | REdOG | jcurry: probably default... Im not running kde but alot of apps are thinking I am because e17 tells them its kde for some strange reason |
| 17:36.00 | REdOG | these apps use ugly colors that I think I can change by using a .kde config that isn't ugly |
| 17:36.01 | sredna | All kde applications use the kde settings |
| 17:36.17 | sredna | And there is no reason you should not run kcontrol from within e17 |
| 17:36.17 | REdOG | opera? afaik its not a "kde" app |
| 17:36.24 | sredna | Or just the colors module |
| 17:36.25 | REdOG | I don't have kcontrol |
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| 17:36.49 | sredna | Try 'kcmshell colors' |
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| 17:37.19 | sredna | REdOG: Well, if you did not install kdebase fully, you should have your head examined |
| 17:37.36 | REdOG | sredna: I don't use kde at all |
| 17:37.55 | jcurry | REdOG, opera is not a kde app, and therefore is not affected by anything you define in kcontrol...use an opera theme |
| 17:38.25 | sredna | REdOG: If you run any kde apps, you need kdebase. If you have no kde apps, changing kde config files is not going to help you in any way |
| 17:38.28 | jcurry | REdOG, if you use kde apps, you should install all of kdebase, or Strange Things Will Happen (tm) |
| 17:38.38 | REdOG | jcurry: it does ive done it before |
| 17:38.42 | sredna | REdOG: If you mean qt apps, try qtconfig |
| 17:39.08 | jcurry | REdOG, opera uses qt, like kde, but opera *is not* a kde app |
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| 17:39.32 | REdOG | I don't have qt either I may |
| 17:39.37 | REdOG | opera is static |
| 17:40.16 | Peaker | Recently, Ctrl+C doesn't always work to copy from widgets. Right-click copy does. Only the key shortcut fails. Any known bug about this? |
| 17:41.40 | jcurry | REdOG, i don't understand what you want to do...if you want to chnage opera's appearance, get an opera theme |
| 17:42.05 | jcurry | Peaker, is it a kde problem, or does it happen in other apps, eg, gtk apps? |
| 17:42.19 | Peaker | jcurry: kde problem, even within the same program |
| 17:42.57 | Peaker | (between konversation and itself) in this line edit it works. But in the editor that pops up when I paste multiline text, I cannot copy via ctrl+c |
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| 17:43.09 | Peaker | but it happened in konqueror and other apps too |
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| 17:43.16 | jcurry | Peaker, no clue there...did you check your shortcuts? |
| 17:43.24 | Ringwraith` | lol Peaker |
| 17:43.29 | Peaker | jcurry: The popup menu says "ctrl+c" :P |
| 17:43.58 | Guard][an | i'm under gentoo and used kde split ebuilds, in control center / power control, but i don't have ACPI panel, what do i miss ? |
| 17:46.49 | jcurry | Peaker, strange, i have no idea...file a bug. |
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| 17:51.12 | aib | anyone know where I can get kdecoration.h and kdecorationfactory.h? |
| 17:53.06 | mabu | Peaker: ask in #gentoo |
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| 17:54.36 | dinolinux | Good evening |
| 17:54.37 | silent|warrior | is there any apps comes with kde by default for viewing webcam |
| 17:54.39 | silent|warrior | ?? |
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| 17:55.45 | hyperactivecrond | ok in Kontact, i have gpg installed. I can send encrypted messages but if i receive one it won't automagically ask for my passphrase and de-crypt i |
| 17:55.46 | hyperactivecrond | t |
| 17:56.08 | hyperactivecrond | it is supposed to do it automagically, yes? |
| 17:56.36 | jcurry | hyperactivecrond, try #kontact |
| 17:56.46 | hyperactivecrond | MK jcurry thx |
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| 17:58.57 | Sonny_Wertzik | hello? |
| 17:58.58 | kiwi_uk | Isn't KDE 3.5 meant to be able to be "arts free" |
| 17:59.01 | kiwi_uk | and just use ALSA |
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| 17:59.56 | jcurry | Sonny_Wertzik, hello! |
| 18:00.15 | Sonny_Wertzik | jcurry, hiya |
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| 18:00.19 | Sho_ | kiwi_uk: Looking at new options for the KDE multimedia backend is on the map for KDE 4.0; 3.5 still uses ALSA |
| 18:00.28 | Sho_ | err |
| 18:00.28 | Sho_ | arts |
| 18:01.04 | Sonny_Wertzik | can someone tell me if there is a way to lock or save the konqueror configuration im using now? im using konqueror as a file manager with tree view F9 |
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| 18:04.11 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Save the view profile |
| 18:04.33 | Sonny_Wertzik | can someone tell me if there is a way to lock or save the konqueror configuration im using now. Im using konqueror as a file manager with the tree view F9 |
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| 18:04.43 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Settings menu |
| 18:04.55 | Sonny_Wertzik | oops i got disconnected sorry can u repeate |
| 18:05.32 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Save the view profile |
| 18:05.34 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Settings menu |
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| 18:06.31 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, is that in window specific setting? |
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| 18:06.57 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Sorry, what? |
| 18:07.16 | Sonny_Wertzik | i dont know which settings ur talking about |
| 18:07.37 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: To to the menu item 'Settings->Save view profile' |
| 18:07.57 | sredna | That will save your setup with toolbars, sidebar and potentially URLs |
| 18:09.31 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, tgot it thank you |
| 18:10.08 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, dang kde has settings scattered all over the place...im not used to it hehe |
| 18:10.21 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: You can save the current profile, or create a new one. You can add a konqueror buton to start that particular profile, the command is 'kfmclient openProfile <name>'. The default for the file manager incarnation of konqueror is 'kfmclient openProfile fileManagement' iirc |
| 18:11.00 | sredna | ;) |
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| 18:11.52 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, can i edit my laucher to open this new profile? |
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| 18:12.05 | PsychoDad | hi |
| 18:12.10 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: Look in my last message |
| 18:12.19 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: You can save the current profile, or create a new one. You can add a konqueror buton to start that particular profile, the command is 'kfmclient openProfile <name>'. The default for the file manager incarnation of konqueror is 'kfmclient openProfile fileManagement' iirc |
| 18:12.39 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, ok i thought that was command line stuff |
| 18:12.49 | PsychoDad | "kstart --skiptaskbar --skippager" does not seem to work at all .... |
| 18:13.00 | PsychoDad | same behaviour without those arguments |
| 18:13.07 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: It is, the exec line in the button properties is a command |
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| 18:15.44 | PsychoDad | any hints on kstart? or any new alternatives to that? |
| 18:16.11 | PsychoDad | ... or any other channel for kde related questions? :) |
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| 18:17.04 | sredna | PsychoDad: Ksystraycmd |
| 18:17.31 | sredna | Though that will add your app to the systray of course |
| 18:18.12 | PsychoDad | hmmm... |
| 18:18.27 | PsychoDad | i just want some applications to vanish from the "task bar" |
| 18:18.35 | Guard][an | which is the name of the module that controls: control center / power control / acpi config |
| 18:18.35 | Guard][an | ? |
| 18:18.36 | Guard][an | please |
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| 18:19.43 | sredna | PsychoDad: And you need to provide a window |
| 18:20.22 | PsychoDad | i loved kstart ... but it does not seem to work anymore |
| 18:21.48 | sredna | PsychoDad: Did you use --window <regexp>? |
| 18:22.06 | sredna | Guard][an: Try kcmshell --list for a list of available modules |
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| 18:22.46 | dESA | how to view movies that is in blabla.bin format? i have a cue file to, but in win i used deamon tools what to use in mandriva? |
| 18:23.29 | Guard][an | sredna: my pb is that i have all the chances to miss the module, because i used gentoo kde meta ebuilds (split ebuilds) |
| 18:23.31 | PsychoDad | dESA: mplayer |
| 18:23.40 | dESA | okey thx |
| 18:24.16 | sredna | Guard][an: Let me check |
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| 18:24.30 | sredna | Anders@pluto ~ $ kcmshell --list|grep laptop |
| 18:24.30 | sredna | Laptop - Laptop Battery |
| 18:24.33 | Sonny_Wertzik | sredna, I got it working thanks for all the help :-) |
| 18:24.39 | sredna | Sonny_Wertzik: :) |
| 18:25.06 | sredna | Guard][an: Laptop is the module name |
| 18:25.07 | Guard][an | well i have the laptop battery, brought by kdelaptopdaemon |
| 18:25.18 | sredna | Hm, maybe I'm missing something |
| 18:25.21 | straw | dESA: http://linuxreviews.org/howtos/cdrecording/ |
| 18:25.24 | Guard][an | but this battery control panel tells that i have to change settings in the "acpi config" panel |
| 18:25.30 | sredna | Grepping for 'power' does not return anything |
| 18:25.31 | Guard][an | which is missing on my configuration |
| 18:25.50 | Guard][an | do you hava an acpi panel in your control center ? |
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| 18:27.03 | sredna | Guard][an: Nope, grepping is empty, and the only one in the power control section is laptop |
| 18:27.05 | Ravensky | how do I get KDE to find connected storage devices and make a /media/ thing for them? |
| 18:27.14 | Guard][an | ok |
| 18:27.15 | Guard][an | thx :) |
| 18:27.32 | sredna | Guard][an: And I'm sure that the kernel stuff is enabled, so I don't know where it'd come from |
| 18:27.42 | sredna | I can look in the sources, moment |
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| 18:28.09 | sredna | KICKER MAKES ME CRASY WITH ALL THAT FLICKERING/FLASHING |
| 18:28.15 | sredna | !lart aseigo |
| 18:28.30 | StevenR | sredna: ? |
| 18:28.33 | sredna | Anytime I press a key, kicker FLASHES |
| 18:28.36 | PsychoDad | sredna: --window does not work |
| 18:28.50 | sredna | PsychoDad: What command did you use? |
| 18:28.52 | StevenR | sredna: eek! |
| 18:28.55 | PsychoDad | ah, crap ... one mom |
| 18:28.59 | PsychoDad | typo |
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| 18:29.07 | Guard][an | sredna: well on my laptop kernel stuff is enabled too |
| 18:29.13 | straw | ergo, kicker is one flashy panel! |
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| 18:29.44 | Sonny_Wertzik | does anyone here use the new version of knoppix? |
| 18:30.20 | sredna | Guard][an: There is a subdirectory in kcontrol named 'energy' |
| 18:30.57 | sredna | Guard][an: It isn't build here, but I guess that would be it |
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| 18:31.36 | Guard][an | i may have to rebuild kcontrol ? USE="acpi" emerge kcontrol maybe |
| 18:31.36 | sredna | Kicker in it's current incarnation is a bugnest |
| 18:31.54 | Guard][an | battery control tells me, inside the power control tab: "you need to enable ACPI suspend/resume in the ACPI panel" |
| 18:32.07 | Sonny_Wertzik | I like the way the icons in the main panel swell up when you hover over them in knoppix...can someone tell me how to set that? |
| 18:32.09 | sredna | Guard][an: emerge -pv will display the USE flags a package can use and the current value |
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| 18:33.14 | ulughbegh | what is your image resizing app |
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| 18:33.35 | PsychoDad | ulughbegh: convert? gimp? |
| 18:33.48 | oGALAXYo | krita |
| 18:34.10 | PsychoDad | sredna: kstart sets the arguments correctly .. but the task-bar does not obey |
| 18:34.11 | Guard][an | emerge -pv kcontrol does not tell about an acpi use flag |
| 18:34.23 | Julianyus | hi |
| 18:34.30 | straw | krita seems to only want to open it's own format |
| 18:34.48 | sredna | Showfoto |
| 18:34.53 | sredna | ulughbegh: ^ |
| 18:35.10 | ulughbegh | as frontend |
| 18:35.15 | sredna | PsychoDad: Time to file more kicker bugs :-) |
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| 18:35.20 | ulughbegh | for everyone |
| 18:35.28 | PsychoDad | sredna: where? :) |
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| 18:35.37 | sredna | PsychoDad: bugs.kde.org |
| 18:35.47 | sredna | PsychoDad: http://bugs.kde.org |
| 18:35.54 | PsychoDad | yeah ... i love that on sundays |
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| 18:36.14 | PsychoDad | do i have to log in ??? |
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| 18:37.10 | sgmihai | this is wierd.. i have set europe/bucharest time zone in kde, and i must set the clock +3 hours so it shows the right time, why ? |
| 18:37.15 | Sonny_Wertzik | In knoppix, the main panel icons swell up when you hover over them ...can someone tell me how to set that? |
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| 18:37.43 | straw | PsychoDad: of course. unless you want it full of party poker and free ipod spam |
| 18:38.09 | Guard][an | sredna: do you have this ACPI panel on your configuration ? |
| 18:38.23 | straw | Sonny_Wertzik: that's gone as of 3.4.x |
| 18:38.40 | Sonny_Wertzik | straw, aw no! |
| 18:38.42 | PsychoDad | one more account i will use once and forget afterwards |
| 18:38.46 | solsTiCe | hi. i use dcop call on the shell to open a new tab in konqueror http://pastebin.com/403194 is it the best way ? now i want to do the same in python with dcop module (or pcop or pydcop ) and i don't know where to start ... |
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| 18:38.57 | Sonny_Wertzik | straw, hehehe that figures |
| 18:39.31 | straw | Sonny_Wertzik: bah, it was ugly and silly anyway, imho |
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| 18:40.11 | Sonny_Wertzik | straw, ya maybe but i like it hehe....im silly like that |
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| 18:41.04 | sredna | Guard][an: I think it's named 'energy' |
| 18:41.19 | straw | Sonny_Wertzik: well, you could install kxdocker. it's a kicker replacement with funky eye candy of that nature |
| 18:41.26 | meme_ | how in the hell I'm supposed to make archives? |
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| 18:41.35 | meme_ | With encryption? |
| 18:41.36 | straw | meme_: with ark |
| 18:41.36 | sredna | Guard][an: It is in the display section |
| 18:41.43 | straw | oh |
| 18:41.51 | Sonny_Wertzik | straw, ok ill have a look...thanx |
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| 18:42.28 | _javier | hi all |
| 18:42.36 | Guard][an | sredna: it's supposed to be in Power control |
| 18:42.37 | PhilRod | meme_: "tar czvf" and "gpg --encrypt-files" |
| 18:42.47 | PhilRod | hi _javier |
| 18:42.54 | meme_ | tar tar but I don't need any encryption. |
| 18:43.08 | oGALAXYo | PhilRod: you can use "ccrypt" wich uses AES encryption |
| 18:43.10 | _javier | i cant find the volume applet for my kde. ?!?!!? |
| 18:43.12 | Guard][an | sredna: from a forum, "Open KDE Control Centre and look for Power Management. On laptop I use KDE too. |
| 18:43.13 | Guard][an | It's like so: |
| 18:43.13 | Guard][an | Menu=>Control Centre=>Power Control=>ACPI config |
| 18:43.13 | Guard][an | " |
| 18:43.16 | oGALAXYo | PhilRod: i keep encrypting all ym stuff with that. |
| 18:43.16 | _javier | hi PhilRod |
| 18:43.23 | meme_ | It's supposed to be gnome where you need to use cli all the time. |
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| 18:43.47 | sredna | meme_: In konqueror, rightclick the file and select Actions->Encrypt file |
| 18:44.05 | meme_ | Yes, but archives WITHOUT encryption!!! |
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| 18:44.49 | sredna | meme_: Select one or more files, rightclick and select 'Compress-><your choice here>' |
| 18:45.15 | Guard][an | sredna: i found something interessting: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Battery-Powered/methods.html#KDEBATTERY |
| 18:45.22 | meme_ | I have only "compress and encrypt" |
| 18:45.32 | Holborn | hi, any chance to "auto" create the undefined mime type who finds kbuildsycoca? |
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| 18:45.44 | sredna | Guard][an: Install ark, it's in the kdeutils module afaik |
| 18:45.50 | oGALAXYo | meme_: tar cfjv foobar.tar.bz2 and then ccrypt -ev foobar.tar.bz2 |
| 18:46.01 | oGALAXYo | meme_: i like ccrypt because it does AES encryption. |
| 18:46.01 | sredna | Yes |
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| 18:46.50 | sredna | Holborn: Please try to rephrase that |
| 18:46.54 | meme_ | everything's working just fine and then there is this kinda quirk? |
| 18:47.02 | Guard][an | sredna: what is ark ? |
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| 18:47.19 | sredna | Guard][an: Kdes archiever |
| 18:47.33 | sredna | It creats and extracts archieves of most kinds |
| 18:47.46 | sredna | Possibly it can encrypt them internally, I don't know |
| 18:48.05 | sredna | But kde is so modular, so I'd not be suprised |
| 18:48.18 | sredna | meme_: What? |
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| 18:48.50 | meme_ | Quirk is that, I should be able to make archives without reverting to console. |
| 18:49.17 | sredna | meme_: Again, install ark (kdeutils) |
| 18:49.38 | meme_ | ok... but why "actions" shouldn't include it? |
| 18:50.01 | Holborn | There is some way to create the undefined mime types reported by kbuildsycoca? |
| 18:50.05 | sredna | meme_: The actions are installed by ark when you install that |
| 18:50.25 | sredna | Holborn: Install kdelibs |
| 18:50.27 | meme_ | aha... |
| 18:50.36 | meme_ | I've installed ark already. |
| 18:50.38 | sredna | It contains all mimetypes that kde needs |
| 18:50.48 | sredna | meme_: What OS are you running? |
| 18:51.14 | meme_ | Linux tatu 2.6.13 #2 Wed Oct 12 18:01:11 GMT-2 2005 i686 GNU/Linux DEBIAN |
| 18:51.36 | sredna | meme_: If you run gentoo or debian, you should ask for help in the respective OS channels, because those distros fail to do a correct installation of several parts of KDE |
| 18:51.45 | Guard][an | sredna: i don't need an archiver thx, it wasn't me asking:) |
| 18:51.58 | sredna | Guard][an: Sorry if I wrongly directed that at you :) |
| 18:53.11 | meme_ | ok... |
| 18:54.01 | sredna | meme_: #debian-kde |
| 18:54.57 | sredna | meme_: Uhm, I just looked in my kdeaddons module, and there is actually somthing called konqplugins/arkplugin |
| 18:55.09 | sredna | meme_: So that might be what installs those action menus |
| 18:56.37 | Holborn | sredna: yes, i have kdelibs, but seems kbuildsycoca read all of my *.desktop files and floods mu .xsession-errors with lots of undefined mimetype, I search fro some script or something to create them .. :( |
| 18:56.56 | sredna | Holborn: Sorry, try running 'kbuidsycoca --noincremental' |
| 18:57.08 | sredna | Holborn: That should regenerte the database from scratch |
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| 18:57.21 | sredna | Regenerate |
| 18:57.22 | meme_ | konq-plugins !! |
| 18:57.25 | Holborn | sredna: i do it .. no way .. :( |
| 18:57.51 | sredna | Holborn: Which mimetypes are undefined? |
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| 18:57.58 | meme_ | sorry to annoy you... It was only surprising that you couldn't create archives without encrypting them. |
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| 18:58.32 | sredna | Holborn: Kde keeps the mimetypes in .desktop files in KDEDIR/share/mimelnk, where KDEDIR is the output of 'kde-config --prefix' |
| 18:58.48 | sredna | meme_: You are wellcome, we are here to try and help :) |
| 18:59.18 | meme_ | SIGFPE is common? |
| 18:59.26 | sredna | Holborn: Please check if mimetypes installed in that location causes errors, if so it is a problem with your syscoca database |
| 18:59.34 | sredna | meme_: No, I wouldn't say so |
| 18:59.45 | meme_ | got one. |
| 19:00.10 | meme_ | :) |
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| 19:06.04 | Holborn | sredna: sredna : most are of non kde apps :( |
| 19:08.09 | sredna | Holborn: If they are gtk/gnome apps, maybe you should research where gnome keeps it's mimetypes and install them |
| 19:08.29 | sredna | Holborn: Or add the location they are kept to the kde database |
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| 19:11.26 | Holborn | sredna: no gnome in my system :) anyway kbuildsycoca reads from /usr/share/applications unad /usr/local/share applications .. maybe if I mix the /usr/share/mime in my ~./kde/share/mimelnk ?? but ... |
| 19:11.51 | straw | selecting a scalable icon set really makes for some odd behavior... |
| 19:13.12 | PsychoDad | cu sredna |
| 19:13.17 | PsychoDad | thanks for the help |
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| 19:13.35 | sredna | Holborn: 'kde-config --type mime' should tell you where kde looks for mimetypes |
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| 19:16.18 | Holborn | sredna: yes .. reads ... the /usr/share/mimelnk .... but seems my debia put some mime types on /usr/share/mime too... ummm ... man cp i will try a selective copy selective :) thanks .. |
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| 19:18.20 | sredna | Holborn: You can add the directory making /usr/share/debian/share/mimelnk a link to it, and then add /usr/share/debian to yout KDEDIRS variable (at least I think that whould do) |
| 19:18.56 | Holborn | sredna: ok i will try ... thanks |
| 19:18.56 | sredna | Holborn: But it could be worth asking in #debian-kde if there is a known solution |
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| 19:20.16 | pchan | hiya. How do i get kwallet to store a password for a site? I was on it earlier today, and when it asked to save the password--i clicked never by mistake. Any ideas? |
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| 19:25.21 | meme_ | sorry again, but how I customize "start menu"? I hit the config earlier, but don't remember how I got there. |
| 19:26.23 | grepper | meme_: r-click on the start icon in the panel |
| 19:26.39 | meme_ | ok! :) |
| 19:26.49 | grepper | also probably under settings in menu |
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| 19:28.13 | pchan | hiya. How do i get kwallet to store a password for a site? I was on it earlier today, and when it asked to save the password--i clicked never by mistake. Any ideas? |
| 19:28.32 | thiago | you've already asked that |
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| 19:29.15 | sgmihai | how can you get multiple programs playiing sound at the same time ? |
| 19:29.27 | meme_ | dmix? |
| 19:29.40 | thiago | sgmihai: configure them all to play through arts |
| 19:29.45 | sgmihai | i'm lookin for the quickest sollution, nothing too fancy |
| 19:29.52 | sgmihai | arts ? oh ok.. |
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| 19:30.47 | straw | pchan: open the wallet manager and find the entry for the site |
| 19:32.05 | sgmihai | hmm there's no alsa entry in amarok.. for sound |
| 19:32.07 | pchan | straw: Thats the problem, there is no entry, and it wont ask to create one either. |
| 19:32.11 | sgmihai | only esd oss alsa file |
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| 19:32.37 | jkt| | evening, folks |
| 19:33.26 | jkt| | which place is better to ask kmail-imap specific questions? kde-pim or kmail-devel ML? |
| 19:33.35 | straw | pchan: you're looking under Form Data |
| 19:33.38 | straw | ? |
| 19:33.50 | pchan | straw: Correct. Where else should i Look? |
| 19:35.25 | sredna | pchan: Find the file ~/.kde/share/apps/khtml/formhistory and look for the list [NonPasswordStorableSites] at the bottom. Remove the site form that |
| 19:36.20 | pchan | sredna: Perfect, excactly what i needed. |
| 19:36.22 | pchan | Thanks! :) |
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| 19:49.03 | meme_ | then... |
| 19:49.31 | meme_ | how I revert changes I made with kmenuedit? |
| 19:51.01 | straw | meme_: that's stored under ~/.config and ~/.local |
| 19:51.09 | meme_ | ok |
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| 20:10.55 | fugit | debian sarge kde 3.4. Turning on unmounted cdrom for my dvd burning shows 3 icons. Looking on information to fix this. |
| 20:11.23 | fugit | ^^ under show device icons |
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| 20:16.05 | sgmihai | An error occurred while loading http://google.com: |
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| 20:20.22 | sgmihai | what do i need for konquerer ? |
| 20:20.29 | thiago | the ioslaves |
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| 20:20.48 | thiago | are you installing konqueror on your own? |
| 20:21.38 | b00zy | in kmail i have "Configure Notifications" -> "More Options" -> "Show a message in a pop-up window" enabled, but no pop-up is being shown. |
| 20:21.48 | b00zy | even if i set it to play a sound, nothing happens |
| 20:22.12 | thiago | what action did you set that to? |
| 20:22.29 | b00zy | new mail arrived |
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| 20:23.58 | Thorrn4 | hello!! I was wondering: what advantages does KDE have over gnome? |
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| 20:31.41 | meme_ | try it out |
| 20:32.08 | meme_ | used kde, then gnome 2.8, 2.10 and now back in kde 3.3.2 |
| 20:33.00 | meme_ | >:( |
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| 20:35.22 | oGALAXYo | KDE works thats the difference :) |
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| 20:38.58 | Andurill | Gleich wieder da |
| 20:39.04 | oGALAXYo | jo mach das |
| 20:39.17 | Andurill | Bin zurück |
| 20:39.24 | Andurill | hi |
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| 20:45.45 | yhager | Hey there, is this the right place for a kmail question? |
| 20:46.15 | meme_ | yep. |
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| 20:46.50 | vexatiOn | is there a version of KBFX that works on mandriva ? |
| 20:46.52 | yhager | Thanks :). I am using ubuntu (just upgraded to breezy) and mail seems to be stuck in outbox (using IMAP to exchange) |
| 20:47.08 | yhager | Any idea of where to start from? |
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| 20:52.31 | netic_ | hi there, i just purchased a notebook, set it up, but i cant figure how to set up the touch pad (my first notebook), is it kde related or x related? |
| 20:53.18 | netic_ | i mean, touchpad works, but double clicks doesnt act as i was expecting |
| 20:55.31 | yhager | Hello? |
| 20:58.07 | oGALAXYo | hi |
| 20:58.21 | oGALAXYo | netic_: its X related |
| 20:58.27 | frb | both |
| 20:58.43 | netic_ | oGALAXYo: thanks |
| 20:59.54 | frb | there is ksynaptics iirc, which is touchpad configuration for kde |
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| 21:24.24 | niktoi | Hi! Im sorry for the bad pub but is it possible to run gnome frontends from Kde when Gdm is installed? |
| 21:24.50 | oGALAXYo | eh ? |
| 21:25.05 | oGALAXYo | you can run gnome applications inside KDE yes |
| 21:25.11 | oGALAXYo | and the other way around it works too |
| 21:26.42 | niktoi | hmm its strange, when I try to run gnome-commander(corectly installed trough atpt-get) or nautilus, nothing appears |
| 21:27.04 | oGALAXYo | why do you want to run gnome-commander or nautilus ? |
| 21:27.13 | oGALAXYo | they are both broken apps compared to konqueror. |
| 21:30.44 | niktoi | WoA ! three days later, it started! |
| 21:30.47 | grepper | niktoi: try running them from the terminal |
| 21:30.57 | niktoi | yea thats what im doin |
| 21:31.28 | grepper | just make sure you run nautilas with the no desktop option |
| 21:31.45 | grepper | (if you still need to do that) |
| 21:31.52 | grepper | haven't used it in a while |
| 21:32.01 | oGALAXYo | you still need to |
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| 21:32.49 | niktoi | hmmm the no desktop option |
| 21:32.52 | niktoi | i try that |
| 21:33.58 | oGALAXYo | niktoi: if you allow... i dont recommend using nautilus. i used to be a gnome developer and know how broken the gnome-vfs module is (copying files and so on from ftp etc..).. |
| 21:34.05 | oGALAXYo | its still in bad shape.. |
| 21:34.11 | niktoi | yes i would prefer konqueror |
| 21:34.22 | niktoi | but it makes my system crashes.. |
| 21:34.31 | oGALAXYo | what kde version ? |
| 21:34.50 | oGALAXYo | and what distro |
| 21:35.43 | niktoi | 3.3.2 on promepis (debian testing/stable kernel 2.6.7) |
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| 21:36.00 | oGALAXYo | i see. the latest kde is 3.5 beta 2.. |
| 21:36.09 | oGALAXYo | even kde 3.4 is newer than what you run. |
| 21:36.15 | niktoi | I see |
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| 21:36.29 | oGALAXYo | you should give kde 3.4 or 3.5 beta2 a try.. not just that its more stable. its also double as fast.. |
| 21:36.41 | oGALAXYo | well.. at least faster and more stable due to better compiler and many bugfixes. |
| 21:36.46 | meme_ | really? |
| 21:36.46 | niktoi | ok, let me upgrade that and I come back : ) |
| 21:36.58 | niktoi | Ty for u advice! |
| 21:37.03 | niktoi | brb |
| 21:37.08 | oGALAXYo | meme_: most crashes are usually related to bad gcc C++ support |
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| 21:37.26 | oGALAXYo | most C++ related issues have been solved with gcc 3.4 and better 4.0 |
| 21:37.37 | oGALAXYo | speed, stability, better code generation. |
| 21:37.52 | oGALAXYo | but it also depends that you dont use 'leet' optimize flags during compile time.. |
| 21:38.03 | oGALAXYo | best is to compile KDE AS IS without any special flags using a NEW compiler. |
| 21:38.10 | oGALAXYo | gcc 4.0.2 gives good results.. |
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| 21:40.11 | meme_ | debian using g++ 4.0? (btw, I feel g++ 4.0 is Great) |
| 21:40.38 | meme_ | 'cause compiling takes Time |
| 21:41.18 | oGALAXYo | well if you use precompiled headers then you can drastically improve compiling time. |
| 21:41.32 | oGALAXYo | i once measured the compile time for my entire KDE.. |
| 21:41.40 | oGALAXYo | if you want i can give you the results.. |
| 21:41.49 | oGALAXYo | for each KDE package |
| 21:41.56 | meme_ | I just want amarok working :( |
| 21:42.18 | Arafangion | meme_: Debian unstable is definetely using 4.0, afaik. |
| 21:42.26 | meme_ | ok. |
| 21:42.31 | meme_ | using testing now.. |
| 21:42.47 | meme_ | but. |
| 21:42.56 | meme_ | Where does amarok hold it's files? |
| 21:43.11 | meme_ | even deleted ~/.kde/apps/amarok |
| 21:43.17 | meme_ | but didn't help |
| 21:43.44 | meme_ | I've used it earlier, and then uninstalled... |
| 21:44.38 | markey | what's up meme_? |
| 21:44.42 | markey | rok trouble? |
| 21:44.45 | markey | I just tuned in |
| 21:44.46 | meme_ | yes |
| 21:45.07 | meme_ | the collection thingy doesn't work |
| 21:45.18 | markey | ok that's easy |
| 21:45.22 | meme_ | I can choose directories, but it doesn't add them |
| 21:45.22 | markey | you're using debian right |
| 21:45.26 | markey | yep |
| 21:45.28 | meme_ | debian |
| 21:45.28 | Tm_T | :p |
| 21:45.29 | markey | you see |
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| 21:45.40 | markey | your sqlite version is incompatible with the rok |
| 21:45.46 | meme_ | ?!? |
| 21:45.49 | markey | yes |
| 21:45.49 | Tm_T | yu |
| 21:46.01 | markey | debian uses an external sqlite |
| 21:46.07 | markey | for foolish reasons |
| 21:46.19 | meme_ | what is sqlite |
| 21:46.31 | markey | if you upgrade to the latest rok package, all is fine |
| 21:46.44 | meme_ | that is? |
| 21:46.46 | markey | otherwise, you'll have to downgrade sqlite |
| 21:46.57 | markey | latest released rok is 1.3.3 |
| 21:47.06 | meme_ | I've 1.2.4 |
| 21:47.10 | oGALAXYo | meme_: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GSjuJM82.html here you see my results for KDE building times using gcc 4.0.1. |
| 21:47.16 | markey | yes that's very old |
| 21:47.41 | meme_ | oGALAXYo: what's delta t |
| 21:47.45 | oGALAXYo | meme_: i saved nearly 3 hrs from compiling entire kde.. and if i had used precompiled headers i would have even saved a lot more. |
| 21:47.49 | oGALAXYo | meme_: the time difference. |
| 21:48.04 | oGALAXYo | meme_: time 2 - time 1 = the delta of both times. |
| 21:48.16 | meme_ | ex |
| 21:48.18 | meme_ | ok |
| 21:48.51 | straw | oGALAXYo: how does one use pre-compiled headers? |
| 21:49.09 | oGALAXYo | straw: you enable it during qt-copy or kde modules |
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| 21:49.13 | oGALAXYo | through the configure scripts. |
| 21:49.39 | straw | oGALAXYo: does it actually work? |
| 21:49.48 | oGALAXYo | yes |
| 21:49.48 | CydeWeys | Hello everyone, I have a pretty simple queston. I'm viewing a folder full of pictures using Konqueror but the thumbnails are too small to be of much use. How do I configure Konqueror to make the thumbnails larger? Thanks! |
| 21:50.37 | straw | CydeWeys: find the Photobook icon on the tool bar |
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| 21:51.23 | CydeWeys | straw: I've also used Photobook and its thumbnails are also too small. Can those be made larger? |
| 21:51.45 | straw | CydeWeys: you can also get a tool tip preview if you enable it |
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| 21:53.00 | niktoi | hmmmm Im unable to upgrade kde.. |
| 21:53.03 | PhilOut | CydeWeys: view -> icon size -> biggest you can find |
| 21:53.13 | PhilOut | niktoi: probably a question for #yourdistro |
| 21:53.21 | niktoi | true |
| 21:53.25 | CydeWeys | Hahaha thanks PhilOut, that did it. |
| 21:53.33 | CydeWeys | It was right there in the menus staring me in the face and I didn't see it. |
| 21:53.37 | niktoi | last version is 3.%?! |
| 21:53.45 | oGALAXYo | 3.5 beta 2 |
| 21:53.52 | niktoi | ok : ) ty |
| 21:53.59 | oGALAXYo | or 3.4.3 or so for the last stable one.. |
| 21:54.12 | oGALAXYo | but 3.5 beta 2 is damn stable for a soon to be release version of kde. |
| 21:54.57 | bornio | indeed |
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| 22:04.59 | oGALAXYo | hmmm |
| 22:05.05 | oGALAXYo | cynthia rothrock movie on tv.. |
| 22:05.10 | oGALAXYo | together with 'chung lee' |
| 22:05.13 | oGALAXYo | or hows he called.. |
| 22:05.14 | oGALAXYo | :) |
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| 22:06.28 | oGALAXYo | http://www.cynthiarothrock.org/ |
| 22:06.32 | oGALAXYo | hmm doesnt look that shabby :) |
| 22:07.51 | oGALAXYo | Bolo Yeung is his real name :) |
| 22:07.53 | oGALAXYo | chung lee |
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| 22:16.06 | ianteper | hi |
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| 22:53.16 | Ash-Fox | jcurry, just so you know someone is here reading the questions... I am, unfortunately don't know the answer to your question. |
| 22:53.52 | jcurry | :( |
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| 23:06.58 | vblanton | I love kde |
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| 23:08.02 | Kalock | Hello everyone... just have a quick question |
| 23:08.16 | Sho_ | Kalock: shoot |
| 23:08.17 | Kalock | ack.. wrong channel... sorry |
| 23:08.22 | Kalock | Well maybe not |
| 23:08.24 | Kalock | k3b |
| 23:08.36 | Sho_ | well, there should be some k3b users here :) |
| 23:09.03 | Kalock | What is the diff. between a Video DVD project and a emovix dvd project? |
| 23:09.29 | StevenR | emovix? |
| 23:09.39 | Kalock | That is a choice on my k3b |
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| 23:09.52 | Sho_ | Kalock: "emovix" is a system that makes bootable Linux CDs that directly boot into mplayer and play back the video |
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| 23:10.04 | Kalock | I am trying to burn a dvd to watch on my normal dvd player |
| 23:10.12 | Sho_ | Kalock: http://movix.sourceforge.net/ |
| 23:10.19 | Sho_ | Kalock: Then go for the Video DVD project :) |
| 23:10.26 | Kalock | k |
| 23:11.41 | Kalock | What writing mode do I want? |
| 23:11.43 | dimm0k | trying to add a printer in kde but it's asking me for a username and password when i attempt to make a test print... any clues? |
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| 23:12.52 | Kalock | I have a choide of DAO, Overwrite and incramental |
| 23:13.15 | StevenR | dimm0k: use your root username and password |
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| 23:13.20 | Gumby | has anyone seen this issue before. IWhen trying to set konqueror or kde kicker settings I get a blank page when opening up the settings. Anyone have any idea what I might try to resolve this? I thought it was make a .kde problem so I created a new user and tested it but it was the same with a fresh .kde. |
| 23:13.22 | Kwarq | Gumby, I found 4 matches to your query: asusanator, _, KDE, __. asusanator (n=KDE@wayax5-157.dialup.optusnet.com.au) was last seen quitting #kde 2 hours 2 minutes ago (23.10. 17:13) stating ""Leaving"" after spending 53 minutes there. |
| 23:13.48 | Kalock | Keep in mind.. I am not copying direct from a DVD but from teh audio_ts and video_ts that is on my HD |
| 23:13.48 | Sho_ | o.O |
| 23:14.01 | StevenR | Kalock: i would say DAO |
| 23:14.08 | Kalock | k |
| 23:14.13 | Kalock | Thanks.... |
| 23:14.18 | StevenR | Kalock: if it's a fresh blank dvdr |
| 23:14.33 | Kalock | It is... DVD+R DL |
| 23:14.44 | dimm0k | StevenR, is it attempting to write to cupsd.conf? |
| 23:15.11 | StevenR | dimm0k: no, it's making a new print queue for test purposes, which needs root access |
| 23:15.27 | StevenR | dimm0k: if you finish the wizard it will write the config file |
| 23:17.54 | Kalock | O.k... it's burning... just hope it plays in my home dvd player :) |
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| 23:18.42 | dimm0k | StevenR, ok thanks |
| 23:19.30 | dimm0k | StevenR, is there a way to create a print queue just for a particular user instead of system wide? |
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| 23:19.55 | StevenR | dimm0k: i dont think so, but you can restrict access to a print queue |
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| 23:20.05 | StevenR | dimm0k: so actually, yes you can :) |
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| 23:21.19 | dimm0k | StevenR, hehe, ok. just remember in the last version of kde that i used, i was able to create a print queue without ever using root |
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| 23:21.50 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 23:21.55 | bushwakko | hey, I've had some fs-crash |
| 23:22.04 | bushwakko | but I recoverd most files and have a new partition |
| 23:22.16 | bushwakko | however kde won't start, whines about some stuff |
| 23:22.39 | solemnwarning | are there any tray icon rss apps that will check the rss feeds it is watching regurlaly? |
| 23:23.22 | bushwakko | startkde: Starting up... |
| 23:23.22 | bushwakko | mkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root |
| 23:23.23 | bushwakko | DCOP aborting call from 'anonymous-8595' to 'kded' |
| 23:23.23 | bushwakko | kded: ERROR: Communication problem with kded, it probably crashed. |
| 23:23.23 | bushwakko | startkde: Shutting down... |
| 23:23.25 | bushwakko | klauncher: Exiting on signal 1 |
| 23:23.27 | bushwakko | /usr/kde/3.5/bin/startkde: line 373: artsshell: command not found |
| 23:23.30 | bushwakko | startkde: Running shutdown scripts... |
| 23:23.32 | bushwakko | startkde: Done. |
| 23:23.35 | bushwakko | sorry for the big paste |
| 23:23.54 | solemnwarning | anyone? |
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| 23:26.30 | rct107 | hi... what's a good FTP client for KDE that has SFTP(ssh2) and isn't kbear? |
| 23:27.03 | canllaith | Konqueror :) |
| 23:27.18 | Kalock | Gata love it... I run record now on my windows box and it slows my computer way down.... I dual boot into my mandrake... on same computer... and it does not even burp with k3b dopy a copy |
| 23:27.49 | chavo | rct107, use fish:/ you'll love it |
| 23:27.57 | rct107 | ok |
| 23:28.19 | Kalock | Anyone good with sshd.config here? |
| 23:28.25 | chavo | you can also use it anywhere in KDE, open/save dialogs, etc |
| 23:29.32 | rct107 | does fish have SFTP capability? |
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| 23:30.16 | Sho_ | rct107: fish://user:pw@host:port/path, have fun |
| 23:30.25 | chavo | well it uses ssh, so the server will need to be running that |
| 23:30.32 | rct107 | yeah, it is |
| 23:30.59 | schloob | anyone know if it's possible to get mplayerplug-in to work with konqueror? |
| 23:31.23 | chavo | you can put bookmarks in the open save dialogs and just open and save directly from the server |
| 23:31.32 | chavo | it's very handy |
| 23:31.39 | Sho_ | rct107: Although that's really scp ... there is also sftp:// |
| 23:31.58 | Kalock | I know in proftpd.conf I can set everyone as rooted in their directory... is there a way I can do it on sshd.config ? |
| 23:32.26 | rct107 | thanks |
| 23:32.28 | Sho_ | Kalock: google for 'ssh chroot' |
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| 23:32.35 | Kalock | nod |
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| 23:47.57 | bushwakko | making imake with BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS= and CROSSCOMPILEFLAGS=-DCROSSCOMPILEDIR="" in config/imake |
| 23:48.00 | bushwakko | cc -o ccimake -DCROSSCOMPILEDIR=\"\" -O -I../../include -I../../imports/x11/include/X11 ccimake.c |
| 23:48.03 | bushwakko | cc: error while loading shared libraries: cc: unsupported version 0 of Verneed record |
| 23:48.08 | bushwakko | what does this mean? |
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