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00:28.36 | EvanCarroll | Is there a command line utility that will allow me to raise/minimize a window or bring it into focus? |
00:28.47 | EvanCarroll | or a perl library =D] |
00:29.26 | thiago | EvanCarroll: dcop |
00:29.31 | thiago | but it works only for KDE applications |
00:29.42 | EvanCarroll | hrm |
00:30.18 | EvanCarroll | man dcop doesn't list options that allow window management through command line |
00:30.38 | thiago | no, it doesn't |
00:30.44 | thiago | type: dcop |
00:30.59 | thiago | you'll see a list of applications you're allowed to manage |
00:31.27 | EvanCarroll | Alright nice, but not what im looking for =[ |
00:31.32 | EvanCarroll | is there any way to manage non-kde applications |
00:31.39 | thiago | for instance, to minimise the Konqueror window (PID 4132): dcop konqueror-4132 konqueror-mainwindow\#1 minimize |
00:31.42 | thiago | EvanCarroll: no |
00:33.22 | madpenguin8 | I have this in my .bashrc, it's kinda ugly but does the trick alias lower="dcop "`echo $KONSOLE_DCOP | cut -d '(' -f2 | cut -d ',' -f1`" konsole-mainwindow#1 lower" |
00:33.36 | madpenguin8 | and also |
00:33.40 | madpenguin8 | alias hide="dcop "`echo $KONSOLE_DCOP | cut -d '(' -f2 | cut -d ',' -f1`" konsole-mainwindow#1 minimize" |
00:33.43 | EvanCarroll | thiago: Thanks for your help sounds like im SOL though |
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00:45.24 | hydrogen | hrm |
00:45.39 | hydrogen | would kde built on gcc-3.4.3 run with a system compiled on gcc-4.0.1? |
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00:48.12 | thiago | hydrogen: yes |
00:48.25 | hydrogen | ooh |
00:48.26 | hydrogen | cool |
00:48.29 | hydrogen | theres hope for me yet |
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01:00.34 | Blissex | hydrogen: that's an amazingly ''devious'' thing to try to do. |
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01:36.50 | eisregen | wtf (o_O ) |
01:36.53 | eisregen | http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/presskits/windowsvista/images/image002.jpg |
01:37.06 | eisregen | m$ uses crystal icons ? |
01:39.05 | benJIman | yeah I noticed that |
01:39.18 | benJIman | the back/forward icons particularly |
01:39.26 | benJIman | they've been in since the original leaked builds |
01:40.09 | eisregen | benJIman: the folder icons are 'crystal clear' icons |
01:40.32 | benJIman | eisregen: not quite, closish though |
01:40.46 | benJIman | the back/forward icons are nearly identical to the crystal svg ones |
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01:47.03 | eisregen | benJIman: I get it ... since kde ships with M$ like back/forward in current version they thought it would be funny to use old - style original crystal svg back/forward for their crap =P |
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02:15.44 | ragadeo | Hello |
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02:51.08 | nicolas22 | Hi... how could i used the special keys of my keyboard(like stop, play, power, etc) under linux? |
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03:18.56 | yanger | hmm, is macromedia shockwave files supported by flash? or is it it's own dependent software plugin? |
03:20.55 | chavo | it's different |
03:21.09 | chavo | and afaik isn't supported in linux |
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03:23.29 | grepper | Shockwave Flash ? |
03:24.05 | amir2099 | apt |
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03:25.22 | amir2099 | apt |
03:25.26 | amir2099 | how does apt work again |
03:25.34 | birchoff | why is it konqueror must use location instead of file |
03:25.52 | chavo | apt is magic |
03:29.12 | amir2099 | wow. I haven't been here for ... at least 4 years. |
03:29.35 | amir2099 | apt amir |
03:29.35 | apt | i guess amir is amir2099's best friend and now needs help with C++. help him amir2099 |
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03:30.17 | amir2099 | hmm.. i still need help with c++. |
03:31.38 | amir2099 | anyone find kghostview annoying when you go to the next page in a document and the it shows the top of the current page of the document for a couple moments instead before refreshing? (for PDFs...) |
03:32.14 | thiago | use kpdf for PDFs |
03:33.24 | amir2099 | kghostview feels much faster though for PDFs which are mainly just scanned images... |
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03:34.44 | k0walski | awesome |
03:35.00 | ohad_ | hi, what is the problem with the pkg kdeedu-data? i can't download it using apt-get on debian |
03:37.36 | grepper | what version ? |
03:38.39 | amir2099 | grepper, me or ohad_? |
03:38.50 | birchoff | how do I get konqueror to open in file manager mode |
03:39.13 | grepper | ohad_ |
03:39.42 | amir2099 | birchoff, "konqueror ~" ? |
03:40.25 | grepper | kfmclient openProfile filemanagement |
03:41.02 | birchoff | amir2099, that doesnt work |
03:41.04 | grepper | or konqueror --profile filemanagement |
03:41.51 | amir2099 | i see. |
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03:44.30 | birchoff | thanks grepper that worked |
03:45.02 | grepper | birchoff: ? |
03:45.07 | grepper | oh |
03:45.09 | grepper | nm |
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03:47.01 | birchoff | now how do I get rid of that annoying button bar on the left of the tree window |
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03:48.23 | grepper | button bar ? |
03:48.38 | chavo | you can delete all of the buttons |
03:49.37 | birchoff | yes the button bar |
03:49.38 | birchoff | I hate it |
03:50.00 | birchoff | I am from the school of minimal options in your ui |
03:50.07 | birchoff | if you need something you go digging for it |
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03:53.54 | Oleg_ | wow, 3.4.2 is out! |
03:53.59 | Oleg_ | it was out today? |
03:54.32 | jql | the dot says yesterday |
03:55.21 | amir2099 | wow. I haven't used linux/freebsd/KDE for home (except an old debian server I always have running) for 4 years (last time I installed KDE, 2.1 just came out). Everything has improved SOOOO much. Unbelievable. Everything is so clean now. KDE is so clean now. thank you! |
03:55.42 | birchoff | lol |
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03:55.48 | birchoff | my sentiments exactly |
03:56.23 | birchoff | now if I could just move this nav panel in konqueror file manager mode to where I want |
03:56.46 | amir2099 | I was only slightly ticked off, because fedora is too gnome biased. But even gnome is improved. |
03:57.15 | amir2099 | and since when is mandrake "mandrive" or whatever. |
03:57.34 | jql | mandriva |
03:57.46 | jql | ever since they merged with connectiva or whatever |
03:57.54 | amir2099 | I am so behind. |
03:58.04 | jql | I know what you mean |
03:58.18 | jql | Ubuntu is the "in" thing, now, I discovered |
03:58.25 | jql | so I use that, cause I wanna be cool |
03:58.40 | amir2099 | no idea what that is. last time I was here, debian was in. I'm still using that... |
03:58.40 | jql | Kubuntu, actually. default to KDE that way |
03:59.04 | jql | *ubuntu is repackaged debian, but funded by an uber-rich south-african philanthropist |
03:59.13 | amir2099 | apt ubuntu |
03:59.13 | apt | from memory, ubuntu is caca |
03:59.31 | jql | apt kubuntu |
03:59.36 | jql | :P |
03:59.58 | amir2099 | i see... |
04:00.33 | amir2099 | hehe, anti-aliasing fonts by default... |
04:00.59 | amir2099 | i remember I had to jump through so many hoops to get anti-aliasing. |
04:01.27 | jql | :) |
04:01.38 | amir2099 | pcmcia wireless ethernet support, plug and play.. unbelievable. USB mouse support detected during install... |
04:01.52 | jql | the world is changin' |
04:01.52 | amir2099 | didn't have to touch the XFree86 settings. |
04:01.55 | amir2099 | haha |
04:01.59 | amir2099 | this is all debian's fault |
04:02.02 | amir2099 | it just worked. |
04:02.16 | amir2099 | I never had to do anything except apt-get update every once in a while... |
04:03.16 | amir2099 | such things exist? wow. |
04:03.49 | jql | synaptic (gtk-based for ubuntu) and kynaptic (kde-based in kubuntu) |
04:04.05 | amir2099 | I am so impressed. everything is polished, clean, stable, working, FAST. |
04:04.32 | amir2099 | where's all those kdeinit processes? |
04:04.58 | jql | somewhere along the way, the linker/compiler folks got together and resolved the annoying runtime-linker-voodoo things |
04:05.13 | jql | oh,. kdeinit is still there |
04:05.31 | amir2099 | oh i see it |
04:05.34 | amir2099 | there's only one though |
04:05.49 | jql | yeah, it spawns its children and then changes their process-names |
04:05.58 | amir2099 | ah that's convenient |
04:06.10 | jql | makes it easier to killall kbadprogram |
04:07.07 | amir2099 | yes. without your kpanel disappearing. |
04:07.39 | amir2099 | I donno. everything feels faster, more responsive. |
04:08.06 | amir2099 | new kdevelop is absolutely amazing.. |
04:08.21 | jql | partly due to your upgraded X |
04:09.01 | amir2099 | yeah, I noticed the processname isn't XFree86 anymore |
04:09.17 | jql | long story. XFree forked |
04:09.26 | hydrogen | amazing what happens when you disappear for a while :) |
04:09.30 | amir2099 | hahaha |
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04:09.47 | hydrogen | there were huge improvements even from kde-3.3 to kde-3.4 |
04:09.52 | amir2099 | i feel like one those memory loss people |
04:10.09 | jql | you been in a coma under a rock on mars |
04:11.11 | amir2099 | yeah pretty much. I'm not even sure why I sort of just stopped doing stuff |
04:12.01 | amir2099 | I had some bad experience with Wifi and my laptop, so I just started doing cygwin -> X on windows XP -> KDE |
04:12.07 | amir2099 | but then KDE was slow over network |
04:12.11 | amir2099 | so I started using WMaker |
04:12.32 | amir2099 | and it was downhill from there. |
04:13.12 | amir2099 | ended up just using cygwin locally on a windows laptop. |
04:13.53 | amir2099 | :( |
04:14.23 | amir2099 | any new exciting KDE projects which need man power? |
04:14.52 | hydrogen | arn't there always? |
04:14.55 | amir2099 | how much has kdelibs changed? like 1 -> 2 was pretty drastic I remember |
04:15.10 | drac_ | Ack, just saying that makes me want to dust off my c++ book |
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04:19.31 | jql | 2 -> 3 was kinda evolutionary. the latest buzz has been KNewStuff |
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04:21.58 | hydrogen | HI SERVER |
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04:24.51 | hydrogen | silly server |
04:26.26 | mobtek | heh mine does automagically |
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04:27.47 | hydrogen | well, I can't stand a long timeout :) |
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04:28.27 | amir2099 | i use xchat |
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04:28.59 | mobtek | amir2099: that's disgraceful :P |
04:30.45 | birchoff | amir, nice choice in irc apps |
04:33.11 | amir2099 | i swear its the only gtk app I use ;) |
04:33.29 | birchoff | well I have been using dropline gnome for a long while |
04:33.37 | amir2099 | whats that? |
04:33.51 | birchoff | a tweaked version of gnome for slackware |
04:34.33 | birchoff | but I need a competent IDE and anjuta is really bad |
04:34.49 | birchoff | kdevelop answers all my problems so far |
04:34.56 | birchoff | at least for C/C++ dev |
04:35.05 | amir2099 | kdevelop makes me want to code. |
04:35.30 | amir2099 | i just start writing elaborate hello worlds when I run out of ideas. |
04:35.32 | birchoff | lol |
04:35.37 | amir2099 | its really the only IDE that does that to me... |
04:35.59 | birchoff | hey anyone in here now any themes that replace the kmenu icon with something that doesnt have that damn arrow on it |
04:36.44 | mobtek | heheeh amir2099 |
04:37.01 | mobtek | birchoff: I remember anjuta |
04:37.05 | amir2099 | :) |
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04:37.58 | amir2099 | anyone done ruby / kde before? |
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04:39.58 | birchoff | mobtek, I tried to bite the bullet I really tried but the fact that the ide would go into convulsions the minute I tried to start debugging my app is a really bad thing |
04:40.12 | birchoff | especially for a coder who has worked with visual studios before |
04:41.29 | mobtek | birchoff: heheh, I dumped it when I got sick of gtk |
04:41.34 | mobtek | birchoff: yeah hehehe |
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04:43.08 | amir2099 | i wonder how many EE software there are for linux... stuff like OrCad or the Xilinx and Altera digital stuff. |
04:43.13 | birchoff | I dont mind gtk especially in its C++ encarnation,gtkmm... but I do mind my ide refusing to debug my app... worse yet looking at class data when it does work is near impossible |
04:43.30 | birchoff | amir you a EE |
04:43.47 | amir2099 | no not yet |
04:43.54 | amir2099 | going to school |
04:44.18 | amir2099 | (U Waterloo) |
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04:45.16 | birchoff | kool |
04:45.46 | birchoff | I am a CS major... recently saw the greatness that is programming FPGA's so I am looking to get my feet wet... |
04:46.58 | birchoff | too bad there isnt like a OSS circuit board simulator or something like that |
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04:47.30 | amir2099 | birchoff, have you seen http://www.opencores.org/ ? |
04:48.01 | amir2099 | (not really related) |
04:48.10 | mobtek | birchoff: check kde-apps |
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04:50.08 | amir2099 | mobtek, for design tools? |
04:51.44 | carl_1 | Can I just compile Kicker from SVN to get the new full transparency? |
04:51.56 | canllaith | You also need kdelibs from SVN |
04:52.02 | carl_1 | ahh |
04:52.03 | carl_1 | ok |
04:52.04 | canllaith | and some other parts of kdebase |
04:52.07 | canllaith | so the short answer is 'no' |
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04:52.26 | carl_1 | Is there a kde-meta of SVN branch 3.5? |
04:53.13 | canllaith | kde-meta? |
04:53.28 | carl_1 | Yea, some way to compile the entire branch without going through the 15 folders |
04:53.37 | gregday_ | anyone having trouble with 3.5 not running? |
04:54.40 | canllaith | Checking it out of SVN ? |
04:54.43 | carl_1 | I want to compile it overnight, but not all of them at once |
04:54.46 | canllaith | gregday_: nope runs fine for me |
04:55.06 | gregday_ | canllaith: there's no 3.5/arts/ right? |
04:55.14 | carl_1 | no gregday |
04:55.15 | gregday_ | canllaith: i've been using it when it was in trunk/KDE |
04:55.27 | gregday_ | but since the move to 3.5 i get libc errors |
04:55.56 | canllaith | Nope, no problem. You *did* do an svn switch didn't you? Or did you check the whole thing out again from branches/3.5 |
04:56.07 | gregday_ | eek |
04:56.07 | canllaith | Eg, you didn't just svn up and get half KDE4 stuff... ;) |
04:56.10 | gregday_ | rechecked :\ |
04:56.14 | canllaith | rechecked is ok |
04:56.24 | canllaith | as long as you didn't pull it from trunk again with svn up |
04:56.27 | gregday_ | oh no |
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04:56.42 | gregday_ | i might just wipe out my 3.5 and try again |
04:56.48 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
04:56.49 | gregday_ | i had to revert to 3.4.2 release for now |
04:56.52 | gregday_ | and im missing some cool features :) |
04:57.11 | carl_1 | sorry, got side tracked, meta being doing one make file and one make and one make install |
04:57.15 | carl_1 | that makes everything |
04:57.16 | gregday_ | canllaith: as long as i know it *should* work, that gives me confidence to figure out my problem. thanks |
04:57.16 | amir2099 | didn't there used to be some kacpi program? |
04:57.19 | amir2099 | something like that.. |
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04:57.33 | Dhraakellian | I'm thinking that I'll copy my ~/.kde to ~/.kde3.4 |
04:58.03 | canllaith | kacpi ? I don't think so. What program are you looking for amir2099 ? (eg, what is it to do ?) |
04:58.54 | Venson | amir2099: klaptop? |
04:58.57 | birchoff | amir2099, there arent any free tools to test drive on opencores |
04:59.28 | amir2099 | birchoff, I just heard there's a way to get xilinx on linux (using wine i think) |
04:59.50 | amir2099 | Venson, canllaith, I think it was klaptop. haven't used it for a long time. thanks. |
04:59.57 | canllaith | It's in kdeutils |
05:00.00 | canllaith | klaptopdaemon |
05:00.33 | Venson | my klaptop thingy doesn't seem to monitor my battery anymore....it's getting annoying.... |
05:00.35 | birchoff | amir2099, hmm interesting I will look into that thanks... |
05:00.44 | canllaith | Venson: check that apm/acpi is loaded if it's a module |
05:00.48 | Venson | the icon always says my battery is empty even when the battery is full |
05:00.49 | birchoff | mobtek, what did you want me to see on kde-apps |
05:00.53 | Venson | canllaith: yep...it's loaded |
05:01.03 | canllaith | It just queries the /proc filesystem |
05:01.50 | Venson | gotcha...well, i can check from the cmdline if the battery is charged....just by catting one of the proc files |
05:01.59 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
05:02.02 | canllaith | Strange, the daemon should also be able to if you can cat the proc files yourself |
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05:02.21 | Venson | canllaith: is acpi the module name? |
05:02.36 | canllaith | I think so |
05:02.54 | canllaith | there might be an acpi_battery module |
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05:03.29 | Venson | there's battery, thermal and so on....those are loaded, of course. |
05:03.37 | marcusU | Why does KDE no longer work with automake? |
05:03.48 | canllaith | only KDE4 |
05:03.53 | canllaith | Which you should not be building anyway |
05:04.01 | canllaith | as literally nothing works |
05:04.15 | canllaith | 3.5 got moved to a branch and trunk is now the qt4 stuff that's horribly broken |
05:04.17 | marcusU | canllaith: How do I get the version of arts that goes with 3.5 (and not 4.0) |
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05:04.31 | canllaith | marcusU: Moment, I'll find you where it got moved to :) |
05:04.44 | marcusU | arts used to be on a separate track from the rest of KDE. |
05:04.57 | marcusU | So I just did an update on it, and this is the result. |
05:05.13 | canllaith | Yeah, you'll need to svn switch it to the new location |
05:05.21 | marcusU | What's the new location? |
05:05.27 | canllaith | I'm just grabbing it for you now |
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05:06.41 | canllaith | ok so you want to use svn switch svn://anonsvn.kde.org/home/kde/branches/arts/1.5/arts |
05:06.44 | ritalin | hi |
05:06.51 | canllaith | I'm not sure if the anonsvn bit is right, or if you have an account :) |
05:06.54 | ritalin | <-----looking for a beta tester |
05:06.56 | canllaith | but that's generally the command you need |
05:07.15 | Dhraakellian | let's see... |
05:08.08 | canllaith | --prefix=/opt/kde-3.5 |
05:08.16 | canllaith | export KDEHOME=~/.kde-3.5 |
05:08.28 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
05:08.31 | canllaith | so it doesn't overwrite old KDE values |
05:08.37 | canllaith | although you'll have the same kmenu for both |
05:08.46 | canllaith | so you might want to fiddle XDG variables too |
05:09.00 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, XDG being which? |
05:09.09 | canllaith | it's the freedesktop.org menu spec stuff |
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05:09.20 | Dhraakellian | ah |
05:09.27 | marcusU | I hate KDG. I had to delete all the XDG crap to get KDE to have menus and KControl to have modules. |
05:09.31 | marcusU | XDG. |
05:09.42 | canllaith | That's um literally everything that runs. |
05:10.47 | canllaith | Nah, you can keep running kdm |
05:11.02 | canllaith | flip to tty2 or something and log in and do startx -- :2 from there |
05:11.19 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, meh |
05:11.47 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, either way, I think I'd be using startx for 3.5 |
05:12.44 | birchoff | does konsole overide .bash_profile |
05:13.09 | canllaith | No |
05:13.19 | canllaith | but it doesn't source it unless it's run as a loginshell (konsole -ls) |
05:14.48 | marcusU | There are so many variants on what it read when the shell starts. |
05:15.25 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, would I have to export KDEDIR stuff too? |
05:16.06 | carl_1 | lol, im trying to compile Ksmoothdock and it saying I need to install kdelibs first |
05:16.13 | carl_1 | Doesnt KDE not work without KDElibs |
05:16.21 | Venson | heh |
05:16.48 | carl_1 | checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... configure: error: not found - you need to install kdelibs first. |
05:16.49 | Venson | carl_1: kdelibs is at the heart of kde, afaik |
05:17.04 | carl_1 | Aye lol, anyone know why it would say that? |
05:17.35 | Venson | weird. maybe it can't find the headers? |
05:17.42 | carl_1 | aye |
05:17.44 | Venson | kdelibs-devel or something... |
05:17.57 | carl_1 | I found a package on linuxpackages anyway |
05:17.59 | carl_1 | Ill just use it |
05:18.19 | Venson | if you're on slackware, then you dont need the devel pkgs....there's none, actually |
05:18.25 | carl_1 | Humm? |
05:18.38 | Venson | i guess it couldn't find the libs though they are on your system.. |
05:18.40 | carl_1 | I am on slackware |
05:18.43 | carl_1 | aye |
05:19.06 | carl_1 | Now it doesnt work =) |
05:19.15 | carl_1 | symbol lookup error: /opt/kde/lib/libkio.so.4: undefined symbol: |
05:19.40 | Venson | nice |
05:19.41 | Venson | lol |
05:19.43 | carl_1 | lol |
05:19.49 | carl_1 | Wiiiiiiiiiierd, ill just use a differnt one |
05:19.57 | Venson | what version of kde is this? |
05:20.05 | carl_1 | 3.4.2 |
05:20.13 | Venson | carl_1: where'd you get the pkgs from? |
05:20.16 | carl_1 | Aha or KDE 3.2 |
05:20.19 | carl_1 | for* |
05:20.22 | carl_1 | www.slackware.org |
05:20.36 | Dhraakellian | export KDEHOME=~/.kde3.5 |
05:20.41 | Dhraakellian | export KDEDIR=~/kde |
05:20.42 | Dhraakellian | exec ~/kde/bin/startkde |
05:20.46 | carl_1 | Uhh Dhraakellian |
05:20.48 | Venson | i usually get the kde pkgs from ftp.kde.org .....never had much troubles with that |
05:20.48 | Dhraakellian | anything else I'd need? |
05:20.54 | carl_1 | oh lol |
05:20.57 | carl_1 | Venson: aye |
05:21.08 | carl_1 | Venson: It says for kde 3.2 though, that must be why |
05:21.17 | Venson | carl_1: yeah....definitely :P |
05:21.42 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, no, I didn't type in the wrong window. |
05:21.54 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: lol =) |
05:22.25 | Dhraakellian | but that is the reason why I use a long passphrase that looks like an innocuous sentence (fragment) |
05:23.21 | carl_1 | I really need to compile jkde 3.5 |
05:23.39 | carl_1 | I wish there was a kde-meta so I didnt have to do it one at a time lol |
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05:25.10 | forethig | anyone know where to download dotCURVE KDE theme? the download link from kde-look.org is broken |
05:26.10 | marcusU | I don't know. |
05:26.33 | birchoff | ok time to change this annoying launcher button |
05:26.42 | birchoff | anyone know where I can go to change this |
05:26.48 | birchoff | or anything I can install to remove it |
05:26.49 | marcusU | I used to know. |
05:26.58 | forethig | but u forgot? |
05:27.12 | birchoff | you know you would think that it would be a part of a theme or something |
05:27.14 | marcusU | Correct. |
05:27.44 | forethig | damn |
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05:30.58 | carl_1 | Grrrrrrrrrr |
05:31.04 | carl_1 | checking if UIC has KDE plugins available... no |
05:31.55 | marcusU | Aw. |
05:32.21 | carl_1 | ... |
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05:33.41 | birchoff | anyone here use amarok |
05:33.50 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> me |
05:33.51 | Dhraakellian | yes |
05:34.01 | carl_1 | yea |
05:34.04 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> all the time. in day and night :D |
05:34.11 | relentlessslacke | it's so sexy |
05:34.14 | relentlessslacke | i love it |
05:34.16 | Dhraakellian | there are lots of amarok users (and developers) in #amarok as well |
05:34.34 | madpenguin8 | same here |
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05:34.53 | Dhraakellian | madpenguin8, well you're a dev |
05:34.59 | Dhraakellian | I'd expect that much |
05:35.31 | birchoff | relentlessslacke... what do you think about it |
05:35.49 | relentlessslacke | winamp-type player is just boredom... I started to hate it, though it was my THE ONLY favourite type of players (I mean winamp and xmms) |
05:35.54 | birchoff | I have 30G's of music and I need a competent player to bless with it |
05:35.54 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> it's great! |
05:36.10 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> it's sure bet for you then |
05:36.21 | marcusU | How wonderful for you. |
05:36.27 | birchoff | marcusU, do you change the buttons with a program called kbfx??? |
05:36.40 | marcusU | I do not know what that is. |
05:36.48 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> go try it, you won't get dissappointed. |
05:36.55 | Dhraakellian | damning with faint praise, I know |
05:36.55 | birchoff | kool thanks |
05:37.08 | marcusU | I just associate xmms with mp3/ogg. |
05:37.20 | madpenguin8 | birchoff: 111G 100G 4.5G 96% /mnt/music |
05:37.40 | relentlessslacke | yeah, and it handles it just fine |
05:37.48 | marcusU | Oh great, the size queens are out. |
05:38.03 | madpenguin8 | marcusU: whatever |
05:38.16 | Dhraakellian | /dev/hdb5 39G 36G 3.0G 93% /home2/ogg <-- on my dad's HD. my collection only takes up a portion of that |
05:38.35 | marcusU | It's a manhood contest. Wonderful. |
05:38.40 | relentlessslacke | birchoff> it creates an sqlite db for your music files and allows rapid searches - you'll experience a new way of dealing with media on PC. "Rediscover your music" that's what developers REALLY mean |
05:38.46 | Dhraakellian | no, marcusU, you're thinking of uptime |
05:38.49 | madpenguin8 | marcusU: he wanted to know if the roK can handle 30gigs of music |
05:38.55 | Dhraakellian | <PROTECTED> |
05:39.11 | Dhraakellian | nothin' special there |
05:39.25 | marcusU | If I abort a print job, I can't print anything until I reboot. That's why I rebooted most recently. |
05:39.37 | madpenguin8 | sure |
05:39.43 | relentlessslacke | =)) |
05:40.10 | marcusU | I don't know why, but that's what happens when I abort a print job. Even going single-user and then back to normal does not restore printing. |
05:40.45 | madpenguin8 | relentlessslacke: http://67.149.38.159:8001/current_lyrics/index.html |
05:41.16 | marcusU | I just don't much like music. All my music fits into maybe 6 GB. |
05:41.18 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> okaaay.... wait a second... ) |
05:41.52 | madpenguin8 | relentlessslacke: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=27152 |
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05:43.16 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> that's your script that allows publishing of lyrics? fine |
05:43.37 | madpenguin8 | relentlessslacke: yes |
05:43.44 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> hey, I know that picture! http://www.kde-apps.org/usermanager/pics/madpenguin8.png |
05:43.57 | madpenguin8 | heh |
05:44.55 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> I found it (much larger) in amarok's dir yesterday |
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05:45.18 | madpenguin8 | relentlessslacke: yes, avatars can only be 50x50 max :( |
05:47.19 | marcusU | The avatars are the bad guys. |
05:47.41 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> current splash screen for amarok is bad. I don't like it at all. There's no style. Just a stupid stippled background with bad-looking font effect. Argh... Don't you think so? |
05:48.08 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> the previous one was much better |
05:48.11 | relentlessslacke | imho |
05:48.46 | madpenguin8 | well, there is likely to be a different one for beta3 |
05:49.04 | relentlessslacke | it'd better be so :) |
05:49.18 | madpenguin8 | but I like this one |
05:49.33 | marcusU | Something is wrong with the volume levels in amarok. |
05:50.00 | madpenguin8 | how so |
05:50.09 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> hm... the style looks a bit crappy.... no way fashionable it is. |
05:50.09 | marcusU | When I play something in amarok, the volume levels are much lower than in xmms. |
05:50.24 | marcusU | I don't see any kind of special volume control for amarok. |
05:50.49 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> in the settings dialog there's PCM vs. Master preference option |
05:50.50 | madpenguin8 | you can make it use hardware mixer |
05:51.31 | marcusU | relentlessslacke: I don't see it. |
05:52.11 | Venson | Does Konqueror have an upper limit on how many images it can display on a HTML page or the size of the HTML page itself? |
05:52.12 | marcusU | Okay. That's better. |
05:52.21 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> take a little bit close look then |
05:52.23 | relentlessslacke | :) |
05:52.32 | marcusU | Amarok just seems awkward. |
05:52.42 | marcusU | I just want something simple to play music. |
05:53.01 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> nope. it's just a bit unusual to deal with this type of software |
05:53.23 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> you just need some time to educate yourself how to operate it EFFECTIVELY |
05:53.24 | marcusU | I don't care about playlists and such. |
05:53.43 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> after that, you'll never get back to xmms-type players |
05:53.46 | marcusU | I just want to look through my directories and play specific songs. |
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05:53.55 | Venson | perhaps i should ask in #kde-devel.....hmm |
05:53.58 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> I didn't either, until learned amaroK :)) |
05:54.03 | marcusU | relentlessslacke: No, I like xmms. Besides, amarok does not have pretty plugins like gforce. |
05:54.17 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> it does |
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05:54.25 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> visualisations are supported |
05:54.56 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> then just browsing files - is a weird out technique. Use Collection Manager - that's the Way |
05:55.33 | marcusU | Well, it's what I like. I can just go to the directory that has my music and play a song I want to hear. |
05:55.46 | marcusU | I don't want to create a database or do anything complicated. |
05:56.23 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> wouldn't be it easier to type in "Scre" to find rapidly a song with name "Screaming Alive", huh? |
05:56.40 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> it's save you a lot of time, finding your songs in less than just a minute |
05:56.53 | marcusU | No, not really. I can't remember all the songs off the top of my head. |
05:57.20 | marcusU | I don't need a minute to find my song. I just look through the directory and find it in much less than a minute. |
05:57.27 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> use file browser |
05:57.32 | marcusU | relentlessslacke: I do. |
05:57.35 | marcusU | Konqueror. |
05:57.49 | relentlessslacke | not Konqueror, but integrated one :))) |
05:58.05 | relentlessslacke | well, anyway it's up to you to decide what you like more |
05:58.13 | relentlessslacke | I used to think that way you do now |
05:58.15 | marcusU | It's too hard to use. |
05:58.29 | relentlessslacke | First run of amaroK just pushed me back - too many features. |
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05:58.46 | marcusU | And I can't figure out its file browser. |
05:58.54 | relentlessslacke | Some time later I realized that I need all those features... that's the point |
05:59.13 | marcusU | It's showing my current directory, but I can't figure out how to get to other directories. |
05:59.42 | marcusU | There's no "up to another directory" symbol or anything. |
05:59.55 | madpenguin8 | uhm, yes there are |
06:00.04 | relentlessslacke | Be patient, explore its features, discover its potentials and learn how to use it. That's the only way. After that amaroK will kick ass any player in the world (atm) |
06:00.05 | madpenguin8 | above the filter |
06:00.19 | marcusU | relentlessslacke: I think I'll pass. amarok is almost as bad as JunK |
06:00.37 | relentlessslacke | Ma\ |
06:00.42 | relentlessslacke | marcusU> no way |
06:01.01 | marcusU | Well, okay, maybe JunK is worse. I dunno. They're equally dismal. |
06:01.03 | relentlessslacke | =)) |
06:01.27 | relentlessslacke | madpenguin8> tell him its super... tell him! :) |
06:01.59 | relentlessslacke | it's just the state-of-the-art for me.. |
06:02.14 | marcusU | It's a solution in search of a problem for me. |
06:02.26 | madpenguin8 | relentlessslacke: what version btw? |
06:02.40 | relentlessslacke | 1.3b2 |
06:02.46 | madpenguin8 | :) |
06:03.00 | relentlessslacke | not an svn one |
06:03.12 | relentlessslacke | 'cuz I haven't compiled svn support on my machine yet |
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06:03.53 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: :O how do you live without svn |
06:04.11 | carl_1 | And kde [i]3.4[/i] |
06:04.15 | relentlessslacke | carl_1> I manage somehow... at least these days :D |
06:04.20 | carl_1 | lol |
06:04.46 | Dhraakellian | heh |
06:04.54 | Dhraakellian | I'm sure JuK is a fine music player |
06:04.58 | marcusU | Uh, yeah. |
06:05.02 | marcusU | I'm sure Windows is a fine OS. |
06:05.02 | relentlessslacke | carl_1> I've got a nuisance inside my mind... you know.. I compile everything by myself (no scripts) just ./configure blah blah blah |
06:05.03 | Dhraakellian | ...it's just that it confuses the heck out of me |
06:05.18 | Dhraakellian | and amarok has what I want |
06:05.19 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: I ./configure blah blah blah alot of stuff |
06:05.25 | relentlessslacke | carl_1> it's a bit time consuming, but damn interesting for me |
06:05.32 | Dhraakellian | JuK might fit other people's needs |
06:05.42 | Dhraakellian | it doesn't fit my needs/wants |
06:05.54 | marcusU | Yeah. Some people might use a filleting knife as a back-scratcher. |
06:06.01 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: Yes, watching lines and lines of jibbersh scroll by for hours on end while writing your own code in a thunderstorm, nothin like it |
06:06.22 | relentlessslacke | life style.. heh )) |
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06:06.30 | Flendor | Hallo. |
06:06.46 | carl_1 | sure is relentlessslacke |
06:06.47 | relentlessslacke | nice track |
06:07.08 | marcusU | I never heard of that. |
06:07.08 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, that wouldn't happen to be compiling with aggressive CFLAGS, would it? |
06:07.17 | relentlessslacke | AHC - is great band |
06:07.32 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: aye Dhraakellian: this si slack not gentoo =) |
06:07.39 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
06:07.43 | marcusU | Well, GCC is just plain slow. I don't know what counts as "aggressive" these days. |
06:07.56 | relentlessslacke | carl_1> are you slacker too? |
06:08.02 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: slack4life :) |
06:08.03 | Dhraakellian | now playing: Finn Arild/Trolltech - Qt 4 Release Single - "Qt 4 Dance" |
06:08.05 | Dhraakellian | wow... |
06:08.13 | Dhraakellian | laaagggy system |
06:08.24 | relentlessslacke | Dhraakellian> =)))) |
06:08.25 | marcusU | I'm waiting for the naked version, Dhraakellian |
06:08.28 | carl_1 | relentlessslacke: So uhh, yea =) |
06:08.35 | carl_1 | marcusU: what do YOU use for a compiler then |
06:08.47 | marcusU | carl_1: I use GCC, but it is quite slow. |
06:09.03 | marcusU | GCC is much slower than MS or Intel's compilers. |
06:09.21 | marcusU | Also, GCC is much slower than it was in 2.95.x. |
06:09.21 | carl_1 | marcusU: Yea but MS's is, microsoft-shiver-, and intels compiler costs money |
06:09.53 | carl_1 | Kitchen? You mean the microwave? |
06:09.59 | marcusU | carl_1: Well, MS and Intel's compilers both produce better code in general than GCC. |
06:10.15 | Dhraakellian | marcusU, I was refering to the -fOMG!!!!1IT'LLBE1*10^-1000TIMESFASTER!!!!1 stuff |
06:10.20 | carl_1 | marcusU: They also both cost money and are closed source(i belive) |
06:10.25 | Dhraakellian | the program, that is |
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06:10.55 | marcusU | carl_1: That's fine. But GCC is pretty slow, especially when compared to some old versions of itself. |
06:11.09 | Dhraakellian | not counting the despised and rarelybooted XP partition, I didn't pay |
06:11.28 | Dhraakellian | not counting the despised and rarely-booted XP partition, I didn't pay a single penny for the software on my computer |
06:11.41 | carl_1 | counting the dsipised and rarleybooted(eq2only) xp partition, I didnt pay for any OS, ever |
06:11.45 | marcusU | I paid for OSS. I think that's the only thing. |
06:12.13 | marcusU | ALSA just does not sound decent on my sound card. |
06:12.16 | carl_1 | Im paying for transgaming, I dont know why but I am |
06:12.30 | carl_1 | Does anything satisfy you marcusU |
06:12.32 | marcusU | I used to try to help people, but people don't want whatever help I can give. |
06:12.43 | carl_1 | ;P |
06:12.55 | marcusU | carl_1: Not really. Nothing makes me happy. Things just help me pass the time until I die. |
06:13.01 | carl_1 | rofl |
06:13.10 | Dhraakellian | whatever you say, marvinU |
06:13.17 | carl_1 | Remember the time when IRC was filled with bunny rabbits and happy helpful folk |
06:13.26 | marcusU | No, I do not. |
06:13.28 | carl_1 | Oh... wait a second |
06:13.49 | carl_1 | That was just a dream |
06:14.14 | marcusU | At least sometimes in my dreams I have bits of happiness. Much better than real life. |
06:14.21 | carl_1 | lol |
06:14.26 | carl_1 | Ooo time to check the latest bash quotes |
06:14.53 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, IRC is where men are men, women are men (present company excepted, canllaith), teenage girls are FBI agents, and bunny rabbits and happy, helpful folk are minions of evil |
06:15.04 | carl_1 | Indeed Dhraakellian |
06:15.19 | carl_1 | Well accutly, helpful folk are minions of good, which isnt allowed down here in the depths of irc. |
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06:17.15 | canllaith | hahaha |
06:17.24 | canllaith | thanks for the exception Dhraakellian |
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06:17.33 | carl_1 | rofl |
06:17.33 | carl_1 | <Nirtose> heres some geek for you... You make me hotter than a overclocked, volt-modded Prescott chip with stock heatsink and fan |
06:17.46 | Dhraakellian | hehheh |
06:20.14 | carl_1 | Hey Dhraakellian: INSULT |
06:20.37 | carl_1 | =*( |
06:20.37 | carl_1 | lol |
06:22.11 | Venson | Flendor: who's Prescott? :P |
06:22.30 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, RETORT |
06:22.41 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: COUNTER-RETORT |
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06:23.13 | Flendor | LOL :) |
06:23.24 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, QUESTIONING OF DE/WM PREFERENCE |
06:24.15 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: SUGGESTION TO MIGRATE TO GNOME |
06:24.29 | Dhraakellian | (ouch) |
06:24.39 | carl_1 | (lol) |
06:24.42 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, NOTATION THAT YOU CREATE A VACUUM |
06:24.51 | carl_1 | RIPOSTE |
06:24.52 | canllaith | hahahahaha |
06:25.06 | canllaith | ahahahaha MIGRATE TO GNOME? |
06:25.39 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, COUNTER-RIPOSTE |
06:25.51 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: COUNT-RIPOSTE |
06:25.53 | carl_1 | err |
06:26.05 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: COUNTER-COUNTER-RIPOSTE(GNOME USER!) |
06:26.15 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, NONSENSICAL STATEMENT INVOLVING GAZEBOS |
06:26.48 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: REPONSE TO RANDOM STATEMENT AND THREAT TO FORCE OPPOSING SIDE TO USE GNOME, AND BE BANNED |
06:27.41 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, WORDS OF PRAISE FOR GAME MASTERS |
06:27.43 | Venson | Dhraakellian: he said "gnome user"....you better step back or catch the disease |
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06:28.11 | Dhraakellian | (and carl_1's last line should've been by someone else, but I'm not gonna complain too much |
06:28.12 | Dhraakellian | ) |
06:28.29 | Flendor | canllaith perhaps, she can be an op |
06:28.34 | carl_1 | (bah, this is a one on one thing Dhraakellian !) |
06:28.46 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND ACCEPTENCE OF TERMS |
06:29.01 | Venson | bah.....i dislike bash.org games |
06:29.03 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
06:29.05 | Dhraakellian | heh |
06:29.13 | Dhraakellian | Venson, you use gnome, don't you? |
06:29.15 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
06:29.20 | carl_1 | Venson is a gnome user!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
06:29.30 | Venson | Dhraakellian: yeah....i wouldn't touch kde with a ten foot gnome ;) |
06:29.41 | gnome_user | Hello! |
06:29.48 | Dhraakellian | Venson, neither would I. It'd require touching the gnome |
06:29.56 | carl_1 | lol |
06:30.00 | carl_1 | Hey, its a gnome_user |
06:30.02 | carl_1 | Lets get him! |
06:30.08 | gnome_user | :0 |
06:30.17 | gnome_user | I just wanted to know if there's a KDE port of gnome |
06:30.26 | ritalin | ha |
06:30.31 | Dhraakellian | gnome_user, STFU, n00b! |
06:30.33 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
06:30.36 | carl_1 | n0000000000000bie |
06:30.38 | gnome_user | Knome, perhaps :P |
06:30.54 | Venson | knomeWM |
06:30.57 | ritalin | you mean like gnome on qt? |
06:31.15 | Dhraakellian | ritalin, kde-lite? |
06:31.21 | Dhraakellian | what was that fork-ish thing? |
06:31.22 | gnome_user | I don't know; anything that lets me see the good ol' feet under KDE :P |
06:31.28 | Venson | it's the same people who use gnome lol |
06:31.29 | carl_1 | Bah |
06:31.44 | carl_1 | Gnome |
06:31.48 | Dhraakellian | hmm.. |
06:32.03 | Flendor | In fact I really like D&D Gnomes :/ |
06:32.07 | carl_1 | If I wanted to trust my computer to a wooden yard ordament it wouldnt be a gnome. |
06:32.13 | carl_1 | Bah, Dwarf! |
06:32.20 | Dhraakellian | In fact, I really like jardinains! |
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06:32.33 | Venson | i know what we should do.....have kde users use gnome and vice versa for a day to promote peace and solidarity ;) |
06:32.40 | ritalin | I hate when people have like AMD64 3800's Geforce 6800 and 2 gigs of RAM and run fluxbox cause it doesnt use much resources |
06:32.45 | Venson | oh...forgot to add torture |
06:32.49 | Dhraakellian | http://www.jardinains.com/ |
06:32.50 | Flendor | LOL |
06:32.51 | Blissex | Venson: KDE is bloated (in some ways) but that's nothing to do with comparison with Fluxbox, which is indeed totally different |
06:33.03 | Venson | Blissex: that was my point, yeah.... |
06:33.12 | Flendor | I think it would be easier to do it with Linux and Win users :P |
06:33.27 | Dhraakellian | jardinains is probably one of the very very few things that would make me boot to windows |
06:33.30 | Venson | I do think KDE was bloated a while ago...but since 3.4.x it has gotten so much better, i barely notice it |
06:33.39 | Flendor | (LOL, I wonder what I count as; a Win user or a Linux user :) ) |
06:33.42 | carl_1 | I have a 4GHz Pentium D, 4 gigs of ram, and dual X850XTPE's |
06:33.53 | carl_1 | Other person:Really? What WM do you use? |
06:33.53 | Dhraakellian | I haven't been jonesing for it for quite a while |
06:34.00 | carl_1 | WM, None, that waste resources! |
06:34.08 | grepper | carl_1: that should run it ok |
06:34.38 | carl_1 | Venson: No, this is an IRC help channel not a support channel! |
06:34.45 | Venson | heh |
06:34.59 | Flendor | Wait a second, isn't this an online dating channel? :P |
06:35.28 | Venson | Flendor: some have been using it for that purpose, yes |
06:35.43 | Dhraakellian | Hi, my name's Dhraakellian, and I'm... I'm an xchat user |
06:35.56 | Venson | Flendor: so...asl? lol |
06:36.17 | Flendor | LOL |
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06:36.30 | carl_1 | You... you poor soul, Ive never seen a case this bad before, come, into our circle, Its all better here |
06:36.34 | Flendor | grepper - I don't get that joke :/ |
06:36.48 | Dhraakellian | old enough/no, thank you/Earth, Sol System, Western Spiral Arm, Milkyway Galaxy, The Universe |
06:36.53 | Flendor | carl_1 - And I guess everyone says "We love you Flendor" :P |
06:37.08 | grepper | Flendor: I dated your forehead :) |
06:37.16 | Venson | Dhraakellian: geez....i'm not gonna be mailing you xmas gifts...The Universe was precise enough |
06:37.22 | carl_1 | Oh, My, god |
06:37.25 | carl_1 | Flendor is using mIRC |
06:37.26 | Flendor | Oh, LOL :) |
06:37.40 | Venson | yes....i even use Notepad |
06:37.42 | Flendor | Yes, hence my comments about me qualifying as both a Win and Lin user |
06:37.54 | Venson | and i download and install Gator and Save under Linux |
06:37.55 | carl_1 | this... this is bad. |
06:38.00 | Venson | i can't live without worms and viruses and spyware |
06:38.01 | Flendor | We can fix that. |
06:38.32 | Venson | carl_1: now we went and hurt his FeelingsXP |
06:38.54 | carl_1 | Venson: Ive heard about FeelingsXP, bad bad stuff. |
06:39.08 | Dhraakellian | hmm |
06:39.17 | Venson | ok.....back on topic now |
06:39.17 | kendrick | goddamn i love kde |
06:39.27 | Venson | good start, kendrick |
06:39.29 | kendrick | :) |
06:39.30 | Dhraakellian | hmm... |
06:39.32 | kendrick | heheheh |
06:39.33 | mobtek | heh Dhraakellian |
06:39.39 | Dhraakellian | and no winex on my system to run jardinains |
06:39.58 | Venson | everyone coming to the KUA this weekend? |
06:40.20 | carl_1 | Oh. My. God |
06:40.21 | carl_1 | I just relized |
06:40.26 | carl_1 | I just drank my last bawls |
06:40.28 | carl_1 | =(((((((((((((((99 |
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06:40.39 | Flendor | There. |
06:40.42 | Venson | don't despair....you're bawling more already |
06:40.48 | carl_1 | rofl Venson |
06:40.55 | carl_1 | The window user is back! |
06:41.03 | carl_1 | Everyone, Get your flaming sticks of death! Quickly! |
06:41.13 | Flendor | Ah, but I use windows, windows don't use me :P |
06:41.26 | Venson | Flendor: that's what they make you believe 0.0 |
06:41.27 | Flendor | Hey I'm immune now - I've switched to Slack 10.1 :) |
06:41.36 | carl_1 | Ahh good. |
06:41.44 | Venson | *signs |
06:42.05 | Flendor | Venson - Heh.. Just like, there are no green men on Mars, right? ;) |
06:42.23 | Flendor | Gone for break-fast.. Then have to replace myt chair, I broke it yesterday (I weigh a bit more than 0.1 tonnes) |
06:42.36 | Venson | Flendor: not sure i've heard that one before |
06:42.54 | Venson | why are you having breakfast, then? come back here... |
06:43.34 | Venson | you're sending earth out of its orbit by moving around |
06:43.57 | carl_1 | thats why I've strapped myself to my chair |
06:44.03 | carl_1 | Only now relizing I will die soon. |
06:44.13 | Venson | strap-on won't help you |
06:44.43 | carl_1 | lol |
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06:46.54 | RomanK | Hi all! I somehow managed it to lose my "file, edit, etc."-bar in konqueror. There must be a way to restore it, anyone any idea how to do that? |
06:47.08 | carl_1 | View -> Oh wait... |
06:47.33 | RomanK | LoL ;) |
06:47.36 | Dhraakellian | ^M |
06:47.42 | Venson | Ctrl+M |
06:48.05 | RomanK | that's it! thx! |
06:48.08 | kendrick | don't most apps warn you? |
06:48.24 | kendrick | maybe only the 1st time... |
06:48.36 | RomanK | kendrick: i might've pressed ctrl+m accidently and didn't notice |
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06:50.59 | Flendor | Hey, I have a male dove strutting after a female one outside my window :) |
06:51.20 | carl_1 | Window? |
06:51.22 | Flendor | Heh, she flew away, obviously not so impressed :) |
06:51.29 | Flendor | No, room window. Not the virus. |
06:51.34 | carl_1 | ahh |
06:51.36 | carl_1 | Those glass things |
06:51.40 | carl_1 | Sorry, I live in a basment. |
06:52.06 | Flendor | Hmm.. I'm going to download 2.6.13, hear there are good Audigy drivers there. |
06:52.07 | Venson | Suddenly the male dove boot into linux and starts typing commands in the bash window.....and the female dove flies away |
06:52.19 | Venson | *boots |
06:52.28 | Venson | damn...i really should become a writer |
06:52.28 | carl_1 | Then, KDE starts and the female dove comes back! |
06:52.30 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, as do I, but I do have a small window |
06:52.41 | Dhraakellian | heh |
06:52.42 | Venson | carl_1: that's being too hopeful there |
06:52.53 | Dhraakellian | hacker doves don't get the dove chicks? |
06:52.59 | carl_1 | Dhraakellian: Ahh see, Im in a 4 level house, the top of the basment is accutly about 6feet undergroun |
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06:53.32 | Flendor | Oh :/ |
06:53.51 | Flendor | Hey, do we call female hackers (do they exist anyway?) "hackess"'es? |
06:54.08 | carl_1 | Is there female hackers? |
06:54.11 | Venson | hackeresses |
06:54.27 | carl_1 | Hackinatrix |
06:55.00 | Flendor | carl - There are myths surrounding them. (LOL, there is even a FAQ, "How can we introduce more girls to Linux", written by one of them.) |
06:55.08 | carl_1 | lol awsome |
06:55.20 | Flendor | one of the advices in that FAQ is "Don't call people bitches" :) |
06:55.40 | Flendor | (BTW, don't get this wrong, I DO believe it's a nice effort. Just jokijng friendly about it.) |
06:55.43 | crispynix-v6 | hackinatrix (in the vein of dominatrix ;) |
06:55.47 | carl_1 | lol aye |
06:55.47 | crispynix-v6 | duh |
06:55.51 | crispynix-v6 | didn't see you say that ;) |
06:55.56 | carl_1 | lol |
06:56.07 | RomanK | female hackers? That's like male Stewardess ;) |
06:56.18 | carl_1 | and female co.... |
06:56.21 | crispynix-v6 | hey, there are male secretaries these days ;p |
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06:57.37 | carl_1 | I wonder if there is any femals in here. |
06:57.59 | crispynix-v6 | yeah there's at least one, but you'll have to figure out who she/they are. |
06:58.06 | carl_1 | I bet its you~! |
06:58.09 | crispynix-v6 | no |
06:58.13 | carl_1 | lol |
06:58.49 | Dhraakellian | canllaith, what's your input on this topic? |
06:59.00 | Flendor | LOL, |
06:59.16 | Flendor | I bet we would have seen the input if Canny wanted to share :) |
06:59.29 | carl_1 | lol |
06:59.38 | Flendor | ..or get involved in this. |
07:00.04 | Flendor | OK, gone. Good day. I'll be back in an hour. |
07:00.11 | carl_1 | I wonder if she is a Hackinatrix. |
07:00.15 | carl_1 | Cya Flendor |
07:01.08 | crispynix-v6 | canllaith only hacks documentation, I think ;_; |
07:01.25 | carl_1 | So shes a Hackdocinatrix. |
07:01.39 | crispynix-v6 | hmm |
07:01.44 | crispynix-v6 | doesn't quite roll off the tongue |
07:01.54 | carl_1 | I know |
07:01.57 | carl_1 | Nothing like hackinatrix |
07:02.02 | crispynix-v6 | indeed |
07:04.17 | Dhraakellian | docinatrix? |
07:04.32 | carl_1 | yea that sorta works |
07:04.38 | crispynix-v6 | docunatrix |
07:04.47 | Dhraakellian | both canllaith and lauri do do documentation, iirc |
07:04.48 | crispynix-v6 | kinda matrixy, kinda |
07:05.05 | Dhraakellian | but I'd only use that term if I got their clearance first |
07:05.14 | carl_1 | lol...yea |
07:05.20 | carl_1 | Ill let you ask |
07:05.24 | crispynix-v6 | women love writing... makes me wish that being a writer makes one a woman, but alas, that is not to be. |
07:05.45 | carl_1 | ... |
07:05.56 | crispynix-v6 | anyways, I'm going to go do soemthing else ;) |
07:05.58 | carl_1 | Didn't you say earlier you should be a writer? |
07:06.08 | crispynix-v6 | me? no |
07:06.11 | carl_1 | Oh |
07:06.11 | carl_1 | ok |
07:06.12 | carl_1 | good. |
07:11.17 | carl_1 | Its safe to compile all the parts of KDE at the same time right? |
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07:11.44 | carl_1 | ./configure && make && make install for all of them |
07:12.13 | ravencrow | simple question about kopete: i have it load at startup...and auto connect, is there a way i can have it just start in my system tray? (minimized) |
07:12.15 | ravencrow | wee |
07:12.19 | ravencrow | konversation |
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07:12.23 | ravencrow | err* |
07:12.25 | ravencrow | not kopete |
07:12.26 | ravencrow | sorry |
07:12.28 | carl_1 | konversation is teh best. |
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07:12.48 | ravencrow | yeah its nice |
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07:16.27 | crispynix-v6 | I struggle with math :o great at english, lousy at math -- but not in actual performance, just interest (it bores the hell out of me) |
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07:16.38 | carl_1 | Im great at math |
07:16.41 | carl_1 | I hate english |
07:16.44 | crispynix-v6 | heh |
07:16.50 | carl_1 | I prefer to speak in math. |
07:17.02 | crispynix-v6 | that's a bit limited, no? |
07:17.14 | carl_1 | 9*3=23 |
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07:17.15 | carl_1 | Err |
07:17.16 | carl_1 | opps |
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07:17.31 | carl_1 | lol |
07:17.55 | linux_learner | after upgrading to 3.4.2 i lost my screensaver |
07:18.16 | linux_learner | i think the softlink got broken durring the install or something |
07:18.19 | carl_1 | Whats the point of a screensaver anyway |
07:18.27 | carl_1 | I mean, They look pretty and all but your not there to look at them |
07:18.27 | linux_learner | i just dont remember the path |
07:18.34 | linux_learner | lol |
07:18.37 | linux_learner | my wife is |
07:19.05 | carl_1 | Black monitors are much more pretty |
07:19.15 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, eye candy for drifting off to sleep |
07:19.19 | carl_1 | They look alot like IRC, a giant pit of death. |
07:19.22 | Dhraakellian | (yes, I know, that's what goom is for) |
07:19.55 | carl_1 | lol |
07:21.40 | birchoff | ok I have become a proverbial turncoat |
07:21.52 | birchoff | off with my gnome garb and bring forth the kde swag |
07:22.14 | birchoff | amaroK and kdevelop has converted my zealot soul |
07:22.42 | mobtek | heheh |
07:23.00 | Dhraakellian | yay! for extragear and non-core apps! |
07:23.00 | mobtek | damn 3.4.2 is still hardmasked on gentoo |
07:23.08 | Dhraakellian | heh |
07:23.15 | Dhraakellian | I have 3.4.2 installed here on kubuntu |
07:23.20 | birchoff | amarok just blew me clear cross the room with its features |
07:23.21 | Dhraakellian | but I haven't restarted X yet |
07:23.29 | carl_1 | Im still checking out 2.5 |
07:23.30 | carl_1 | 3.5 |
07:23.32 | birchoff | using the net to get suggestions and being able to then add suggestions |
07:23.33 | mobtek | weird normally gentoo is quicker than this hehe |
07:23.55 | birchoff | amarok is proof that there is a God and if not a God then some highly intelligent being |
07:24.07 | Dhraakellian | the 3.4.2 upgrade was a single-line change in my sources.list |
07:24.31 | Dhraakellian | birchoff, yes, he has blessed the amaroK hackers with niftiness |
07:24.53 | birchoff | AMEN!!!! AMEN!!!! brother Dhraakellian |
07:25.32 | Dhraakellian | I must say though, I don't think iever had system lag like this while compiling under gentoo |
07:26.05 | Dhraakellian | kubuntu set me up with tons of swap, and I'm actually using about a third of it |
07:26.11 | Dhraakellian | no, more than that |
07:26.38 | linux_learner | where did slide show go? |
07:27.29 | carl_1 | What can play .wmv? |
07:27.39 | bluelightning | xine |
07:27.45 | carl_1 | mk thanks |
07:27.45 | bluelightning | or mplayer |
07:28.07 | bluelightning | of course there are KDE frontends (Kaffeine and KMplayer respectively) |
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07:28.14 | Dhraakellian | if you have the proper codecs installed |
07:28.26 | bluelightning | yeah, just grab the full win32codecs package |
07:28.37 | Dhraakellian | kplayer is a nice mplayer-only one |
07:28.58 | Dhraakellian | I think both kaffeine and kmplayer can do either xine or mplayer |
07:29.05 | carl_1 | Xine wont work |
07:29.08 | relentlessslacke | damnit |
07:29.10 | carl_1 | need the codec |
07:29.17 | carl_1 | where do I get it? |
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07:29.26 | bluelightning | carl_1: win32codecs package |
07:29.43 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, either from your package manager or from... um... |
07:29.44 | bluelightning | carl_1: of course xine will need to have been compiled with win32 codec support enabled |
07:29.54 | Dhraakellian | probably mplayer's website |
07:30.09 | relentlessslacke | aha... |
07:30.11 | relentlessslacke | now I know |
07:34.14 | Dhraakellian | now playing: Era - The Very Best of Era - "Hymne" |
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07:36.00 | relentlessslacke | This guy, carl_1, listens to my fav bands \o/ !HEY! \o/ :) |
07:36.25 | carl_1 | lol relentlessslacke |
07:36.28 | carl_1 | slipknot owns |
07:36.41 | relentlessslacke | yeah, great band |
07:36.45 | carl_1 | yup |
07:37.09 | relentlessslacke | I've been listening to Vol.3 intensively in the winter time... just when get parted with girl-friend |
07:37.40 | relentlessslacke | wonderful exprience - it just gets undeneath of your conscious and hammers it |
07:37.45 | carl_1 | aye |
07:38.01 | relentlessslacke | then I got tired and turned to very sad'n'blue +))) |
07:38.08 | carl_1 | lol |
07:38.12 | carl_1 | Vol3. |
07:38.13 | carl_1 | :) |
07:38.29 | relentlessslacke | Now I prefer GST (Game Sound Track) |
07:38.38 | relentlessslacke | and of course Blues )) |
07:38.48 | carl_1 | I just listen to a radio station |
07:38.55 | carl_1 | Amarok 1.3 likes to crash when it switches tracks |
07:39.12 | relentlessslacke | carl_1> not amarok, but taglib |
07:39.19 | relentlessslacke | I had this issue too |
07:39.23 | carl_1 | yea, taglib |
07:39.39 | relentlessslacke | avoid using special symbols like "#" "@", etc |
07:39.40 | ravencrow | eh yeah...compiling taglib solved my problems |
07:39.57 | carl_1 | Ill stick to the edge |
07:40.00 | carl_1 | they play alot of good music |
07:40.09 | relentlessslacke | =) |
07:40.18 | relentlessslacke | Gimme their ip |
07:40.38 | carl_1 | err |
07:40.40 | carl_1 | I just have the .pls |
07:40.59 | carl_1 | Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
07:41.03 | carl_1 | this stuipid cat is meowing |
07:41.06 | relentlessslacke | or cat it |
07:41.10 | carl_1 | I think im going to go let it out maybe it will stfu |
07:41.11 | carl_1 | brb |
07:41.25 | relentlessslacke | you got one? )) me too.. it's sleeping now |
07:41.36 | relentlessslacke | lol |
07:42.12 | relentlessslacke | opps... I accidentalyy hit Enter key and aborted DCC transfer from you.. Once again, please :) |
07:42.13 | carl_1 | back |
07:43.22 | carl_1 | did you get that .pls relentlessslacke |
07:43.49 | relentlessslacke | I did accidentalyy canceled your transfer... ( |
07:44.29 | carl_1 | again |
07:44.58 | relentlessslacke | yep |
07:45.01 | relentlessslacke | [10:49:44] [DCC] carl_1 offers the file "shoutcast-playlist.pls" (366 bytes) for download (142.59.60.166:32769). |
07:45.01 | relentlessslacke | [10:50:14] [DCC] DCC download of file "/home/downloads/dcc/carl_1/shoutcast-playlist.pls" failed. reason: Connection failure: timed operation timed out |
07:45.14 | carl_1 | b;eh |
07:45.17 | carl_1 | how cna I get the IP? |
07:45.45 | relentlessslacke | cat it and show what it's got inside |
07:45.48 | carl_1 | ahh |
07:45.49 | carl_1 | ok |
07:46.06 | carl_1 | 207.44.154.72:8044 |
07:46.20 | relentlessslacke | "that's it, baby" (c) Final Fantasy |
07:46.27 | relentlessslacke | thnx |
07:46.30 | relentlessslacke | :) |
07:46.57 | carl_1 | =) |
07:47.00 | carl_1 | np |
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07:48.55 | carl_1 | damn mplayer takes forver to make |
07:49.48 | relentlessslacke | not longer than wine or say gimp ;) |
07:49.56 | carl_1 | aye lol |
07:51.11 | relentlessslacke | I was surprised when realized that in-game music for Quake (tm) was written by Trent Reznor (Nine Inch Nails member) |
07:51.31 | relentlessslacke | It's a state-of-art! So he did write music for the latest DOOM version. |
07:51.47 | carl_1 | lol |
07:52.14 | relentlessslacke | Just can't help astonishing... |
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07:52.25 | relentlessslacke | but KDE is sexier then DOOM 3 |
07:52.31 | carl_1 | of course |
07:52.33 | relentlessslacke | yeah... that's for sure |
07:54.10 | relentlessslacke | Title: Eric Clapton. Classic |
07:54.10 | relentlessslacke | Description: I shot the sheriff; After midnight; Knockin' on heaven's door |
07:54.10 | relentlessslacke | =)) remove ";" symbols and you get a nice sentence of a bluesman... :D |
07:54.21 | relentlessslacke | that are just two lines from cd e-shop |
07:58.37 | carl_1 | yea |
07:58.38 | carl_1 | ok |
07:58.38 | carl_1 | lol |
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07:59.21 | carl_1 | I can belive KDE 3.5 is still checking out |
07:59.27 | carl_1 | its been going for houuuuuuuuuurs |
08:00.05 | Dhraakellian | carl_1, dial-up? |
08:00.10 | carl_1 | no |
08:00.13 | carl_1 | 2mb ADSL |
08:00.20 | Dhraakellian | heh |
08:00.28 | carl_1 | Im thinking slow server |
08:00.29 | Dhraakellian | it's been compiling for hours here |
08:00.43 | Dhraakellian | well, a couple hours, probably |
08:00.43 | carl_1 | Are you compiling all parts at once? |
08:00.59 | Dhraakellian | kdesvn-build checks everything out and then builds |
08:01.18 | carl_1 | What |
08:01.23 | carl_1 | Where did you get that? |
08:01.52 | Dhraakellian | do a search for it on kde-apps.org |
08:02.09 | Dhraakellian | woo! kdemultimedia is installing! |
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08:03.04 | carl_1 | I cant belive I didnt knwo about that |
08:03.05 | carl_1 | lol |
08:03.35 | carl_1 | How do I make it not build from trunk? |
08:04.27 | Dhraakellian | kdesvn-build 0.97.2 defaults to branch/3.5 |
08:04.35 | Dhraakellian | or whatever the correct nomenclature is |
08:04.40 | carl_1 | yaya |
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08:06.35 | carl_1 | Its checking out kde nonbeta |
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08:09.46 | brknsoul | startx (kde) stalls at 'initializing system services' |
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08:13.13 | carl_1 | woot its working lol |
08:13.16 | carl_1 | im going to bed, night casll |
08:13.17 | carl_1 | all |
08:15.20 | birchoff | can you handle the color of different panels independently |
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08:19.40 | Flendor | Re. |
08:20.21 | ritalin | test |
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08:27.31 | brknsoul | startx (kde) stalls at 'initializing system services' |
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08:29.41 | relentlessslacke | brknsoul> try to reboot your machine |
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08:29.49 | relentlessslacke | sometimes it helps out |
08:30.00 | brknsoul | relentlessslacke: that's a windows solution |
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08:30.47 | relentlessslacke | but it works. and moreover, I find it sometimes the only one way to get the result (very seldom, but I HAVE to reboot machine to get what I need) |
08:31.00 | brknsoul | the only time one should reboot it when testing a new kernel |
08:31.02 | relentlessslacke | stubborness is good, but you may find it useless until you reboot ;) |
08:31.08 | brknsoul | lol |
08:31.11 | relentlessslacke | brknsoul> I know |
08:31.25 | brknsoul | i'm not stubborn, but reboot doesn't help |
08:31.38 | brknsoul | i'll try it , just to humor you... |
08:31.39 | brknsoul | brb |
08:31.40 | relentlessslacke | have you tried already? |
08:31.45 | relentlessslacke | okay :) |
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08:34.35 | brknsoul | see, no dice |
08:34.51 | Whisky_ | what path should my trash icon link to? trash:/ opens nothing :/ |
08:35.12 | brknsoul | relentlessslacke: see, no dice ;-) |
08:35.49 | relentlessslacke | brknsoul> okay it depends.. you know it |
08:36.24 | grepper | mine is trash in 3.4.1 |
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08:36.31 | grepper | trash:/ that is |
08:36.52 | brknsoul | relentlessslacke: i've never ever had a problem in linux that was fixed by rebooting, kernel compilation excepted |
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08:36.59 | Whisky_ | im on 3.4.1 too |
08:37.11 | relentlessslacke | brknsoul> I did |
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08:37.33 | miklos | HI all! |
08:37.52 | relentlessslacke | brknsoul> and never say never :) |
08:38.10 | brknsoul | relentlessslacke lol |
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08:38.43 | grepper | well, rebooting cleans out /tmp with most distros, so if it was a problem a kde file in /tmp its possible |
08:38.59 | relentlessslacke | grepper> a wise assumption |
08:39.06 | relentlessslacke | )) |
08:39.19 | grepper | relentlessslacke: but there are better ways to clean out /tmp :) |
08:39.26 | relentlessslacke | sure there ar |
08:39.28 | relentlessslacke | e |
08:40.18 | relentlessslacke | =)) |
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08:53.05 | drzed | hy there! |
08:53.30 | miklos | hi |
08:53.46 | drzed | how/where can i set the font size for printing e-mails? |
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08:55.46 | drzed | the font-size is much to big at the moment, a 270 word e-mail takes more than three sheets ... :( |
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08:57.20 | ponto | drzed: what do you have as font for printing? |
08:58.04 | drzed | i guess verdana; thats what i set in kcontrol |
08:58.25 | drzed | but there is no seperate control panel for printing fonts |
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09:00.20 | drzed | another interesting thing is that i have the same kind of problem with konq.: the font-size is too small (letters are 1.5 mm) looks like font size:3 |
09:01.03 | ponto | drzed: in the setting of kmail you can choose your font for different parts of kmail. |
09:01.08 | ponto | drzed: printing is one of them |
09:01.38 | relentlessslacke | can anyone translate (I get very curious about this type of writin'): [12:04:28] <-- barosl has left this server. ("??? ???? ??? ??? ?? ??? ??? ?????.") |
09:01.39 | relentlessslacke | ?? |
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09:04.06 | Aardwolf | hi, is it possible to put a screenshot on the clipboard with ksnapshot or another kde program? |
09:04.52 | relentlessslacke | Aardwolf> try out basKet |
09:04.58 | relentlessslacke | Aardwolf> basket.kde.org |
09:05.09 | relentlessslacke | Aardwolf> it works with all kind of mime types |
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09:06.03 | ponto | Aardwolf: Alt + Print or Ctrl + Print give you screenshots in the clipboard of the current app or the whole desktop |
09:06.26 | Aardwolf | ooh, nice |
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09:06.55 | relentlessslacke | ponto> cool |
09:07.07 | relentlessslacke | ponto> never heard of that hot key combination |
09:07.09 | mushu | hi all |
09:07.12 | Aardwolf | I didn't know this because I only tried printscreen w/o button |
09:07.24 | ponto | relentlessslacke: kde is full of surprises. |
09:07.24 | relentlessslacke | me too, actually |
09:07.31 | Aardwolf | :D |
09:07.33 | relentlessslacke | ponto> right you are ;) |
09:07.49 | ponto | however checking the shortcuts can reveal some nice features |
09:08.30 | relentlessslacke | I like Konqueror's Shift+Arrow[Up|Down]. And I can even adjust the scrolling speed! Woohaaa :)) |
09:08.41 | Aardwolf | is there some painting program available that's like KolourPaint, but supports layers and MDI, and is not called "the gimp"? :D |
09:09.13 | lauri | krita |
09:10.18 | Aardwolf | cool, the screenshots look quite promising |
09:11.08 | Aardwolf | *installs koffice* |
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09:14.12 | drzed | ponto: k, thx |
09:16.09 | miklos | Bye |
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09:26.00 | RaduAlexandru | how can I start the KDE control center from the console? |
09:26.33 | ponto | RaduAlexandru: kcontrol |
09:26.40 | RaduAlexandru | thx |
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09:38.00 | kendrick | WOW |
09:38.03 | kendrick | the google suggest toolbar rocks |
09:38.13 | kendrick | (now that i finally got it to compile) |
09:38.32 | kendrick | (someone needs help with autoconf, help creating a website, and help documentatifying ;) ) |
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09:40.45 | pakos | hello! first time building kde with kdesvn-build. i have created the config and started the buildscript.the script checks out everything (looks ok), but there are no Makefile.cvs files in there, so the compilation breaks. For example, the build-system.log for qt-copy says:make: Makefile.cvs: No such file or directory |
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09:41.31 | pakos | what did i wrong? :) |
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09:42.21 | amorph | hi guys |
09:42.30 | amorph | is there a way to right-click without using mouse |
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09:44.23 | ponto | amorph: maybe the kontext menu key? |
09:44.36 | amorph | ponto cool where would that be? |
09:45.30 | amorph | ever since I installed my wacom pad on this workstation I seem to have lost my right-click, but i tried putting my mouse back and the right-click still doesnt work |
09:45.39 | amorph | so it may be a configuration issue with X perhaps |
09:46.00 | ponto | amorph: next to the right windows key |
09:46.16 | amorph | are you pulling my chain? |
09:46.24 | amorph | i dont have windows keys |
09:48.55 | pakos | go to control center, regional & access., keyb. shortcuts, shortcut schemes, application shortcuts and search for 'popup menu context' entry |
09:49.34 | pakos | it is per default configured for the 'menu' key, which is referred by ponto |
09:50.10 | amorph | ok thanks |
09:50.14 | amorph | i will look |
09:50.59 | ponto | kde also hass with Alt+F12 a mouse emulation. I guess there is also a click emulation in it |
09:53.51 | amorph | F10 seems to be the key but it doesnt do anything |
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09:56.14 | amorph | Pop-up Menu Context = menu button |
09:56.18 | amorph | i dont even have a menu button |
09:57.00 | amorph | am i lame? |
09:57.37 | amorph | ive switched my kb to non-Windows keys |
09:57.49 | amorph | and now Pop-up Menu Context should be F10 |
09:57.57 | amorph | do I need to restart kde? |
09:59.02 | amorph | sheesh |
09:59.17 | amorph | brb |
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10:00.58 | amorph | hi |
10:02.00 | pakos | no, you don't need to restart kde, of course :) an apply should be enough |
10:04.04 | amorph | oh |
10:04.15 | amorph | it doesnt work and i cant get a right menu click to work :( |
10:05.29 | amorph | arrrghh this is doing my head in |
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10:07.24 | amorph | Pop-Menu Context does not work on my system at all |
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10:11.10 | ponto | amorph: for a mouse emulation try: shift + num_lock |
10:11.25 | amorph | ok |
10:11.27 | ponto | amorph: then you can move the mouse with the number keys |
10:11.38 | ponto | amorph: you can select the mouse button wiht / * - |
10:11.45 | ponto | amorph: and you can click with 5 |
10:12.29 | amorph | cool |
10:13.05 | amorph | that works! thats useful to know |
10:13.23 | amorph | i wonder what/where the menu button is |
10:13.56 | amorph | i tried to change the default menu button for right-click for Pop-up Context Menu but it doesnt work... im seeing alot of bug reports related to this on Google |
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10:20.32 | amorph | strange |
10:21.02 | amorph | all of the key shortcuts work in Konquerer, however Pop-Up Menu Context does not work, no matter what combination of keys I use |
10:21.58 | amorph | I just tried to change to CTRL+M for it and did Apply Changes, but the shortcut is still bringing up menu bar in Konqueror |
10:22.09 | amorph | bizarre |
10:23.42 | benJIman | possibly the local shortcut is overriding the global one |
10:23.48 | amorph | i closed Konqueror and started again and now CTRL + M does nothing |
10:24.10 | amorph | this seems very buggy |
10:26.31 | amorph | ive solved it, sort of |
10:26.55 | amorph | numercial key 5 = menu on kb's without menu key |
10:27.18 | amorph | its best to leave Pop-up Context Menu as default, it doesnt seem to be a good idea to try to change it and just wont work |
10:27.49 | amorph | should i file a bug report? |
10:28.24 | ponto | better than ignoring a problem |
10:28.29 | amorph | ok |
10:28.48 | amorph | at the very least this could be properly documented |
10:32.18 | amorph | sheesh |
10:32.28 | amorph | this bug report interface isnt very user-friendly |
10:32.51 | amorph | would the pop-up context menu/shortcuts config be related to kdm itself? |
10:32.59 | amorph | or some other program |
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10:39.20 | amorph | filed |
10:39.33 | amorph | ooo i feel useful now |
10:39.39 | amorph | my first bug report |
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10:43.20 | toonX | anyone managed to install the fedora core 4 bluecurve theme on debian with kde 3.4 ? |
10:43.46 | toonX | and btw, if it's a gtk2 there , can kde use it? |
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10:46.19 | Flendor | Hello; is anyone here using the latest NVidia video driver with 2.6.12.3? |
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11:10.02 | benJIman | the search list is defined in kdmrc, depends how it's been set up by your distro but usually `kde-config --prefix`/share/apps/kdm/sessions/ |
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11:29.35 | jamesots | It all seems very quiet round here, so I'll introduce myself. I'm James Ots! And I don't think I've used IRC since I was at uni eight years ago. So please excuse me if I make mistakes. |
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11:31.39 | benJIman | jamesots: you the guy from warwick? |
11:31.50 | jamesots | I am. |
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11:33.12 | jamesots | How're you liking it there? I got to see the new CS building for the first time last week. Looks pretty snazzy. |
11:33.24 | benJIman | yeah it's nice |
11:33.44 | benJIman | how long ago were you there? |
11:33.57 | jamesots | '94-'97 |
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12:20.58 | |Vargas| | hi guys |
12:22.14 | |Vargas| | can someone help me with taglib( C bindings ) compile? |
12:22.22 | |Vargas| | i make up a little exmaple |
12:22.30 | |Vargas| | but it fails con compile |
12:22.34 | |Vargas| | *con/on |
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12:25.08 | |Vargas| | http://rafb.net/paste/results/zx1RHg88.html <--- errors :) |
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12:42.38 | Flendor | Hello again. :/ |
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13:16.48 | yanger | anyone know how to burn audio cds in the new k3b? |
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13:17.57 | mobtek | file -> New Project -> New Audio CD Project |
13:19.09 | yanger | h |
13:19.10 | yanger | oh |
13:19.11 | relentlessslacke | yanger> check out k3b.org for the new tutorial |
13:19.16 | yanger | odd, how come i can't make it a button? |
13:19.17 | yanger | heh |
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13:19.41 | mobtek | heh |
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13:24.46 | yanger | i got it! thanks! |
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15:04.45 | Aardwolf | Hey, will KDE ever support the kind of translucency as in this opengl gui? screenie: http://img112.imageshack.us/img112/9116/bla3zj.png |
15:06.11 | bozy | I might just not see it, but what's different between that transparency and the transparency offered by KDE 3.4 and x.org? |
15:07.00 | Aardwolf | the transparency of KDE 3.4 with x.org only shows the background picture through the windows, and not other windows that are behind it |
15:08.05 | bozy | Sure it does, I don't have KDE 3.4 on this machine (Debian Unstable still waiting), but I can swear that 3.4 and x.org provide "true" transparency. |
15:09.25 | bozy | If I recall properly you can turn it on from the Control Center under Desktop. Anyone with 3.4 want to confirm? |
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15:09.38 | Aardwolf | and you know, actually I kinda like how the transparent windows in windows vista look, I wonder if KDE will ever support something like that |
15:09.51 | thiago | we already do, but it's experimental |
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15:10.08 | thiago | you need Composite on your X.org server and kompmgr-enabled kwin |
15:10.14 | thiago | let me repeat: it's experimental |
15:11.01 | Aardwolf | I found a setting under desktop indeed, with a warning that it may cause problems including crashes |
15:11.05 | Aardwolf | but I'm gonna try it anyway :) |
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15:11.51 | chavo | and it's something you'll turn off after about 10 minutes |
15:12.17 | texnofobix | i had shadows on that was cool sorta |
15:12.18 | texnofobix | :P |
15:12.22 | chavo | because it's just not very usefull |
15:12.27 | Aardwolf | actually I enabled it and don't really see any difference |
15:13.12 | chavo | actually it's not that bad |
15:13.15 | Aardwolf | I set active window transparency to 25% and they're still opaque after I press apply |
15:13.29 | chavo | Aardwolf, run kompmgr from run dialog |
15:13.34 | Aardwolf | and the "transparent" style of konsole still shows only the background through |
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15:14.55 | Aardwolf | hmm, gives some error about no composite extension, but never mind, I'll just wait till it's final, thanks :) |
15:15.12 | chavo | Aardwolf, did you read waht i wrote, run kompmgr from run dialog |
15:15.40 | chavo | you have to enable composite extension in your xorg.conf |
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15:32.35 | bozy | I was just wondering if anyone knew of a way to turn off the bitmap background in kpat, and replace it with a flat color? I've gone into ~/.kde/share/config/kpatrc, and commented out the Back directive, but when I reloaded Kpat it displayed the default bitmap. Obviously it's no big deal if there's no way to do it, I'm just curious. |
15:35.40 | madpenguin8 | could always make an image that is the color you want :) |
15:36.22 | bozy | heh, I hadn't thought of that, thank you. |
15:36.33 | grepper | bozy: yeah, just make a 256x256 jpg or png |
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16:04.57 | texnofobix | sup |
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16:06.58 | blaster999 | Hi all! |
16:07.45 | blaster999 | Does anyone have a problem with kde 3.4.2 when trying to open a dir containing "[" and "]" in its name? |
16:08.06 | blaster999 | Never had this problem with 3.4.1 |
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16:08.56 | grepper | yep, someone mentioned that |
16:09.34 | blaster999 | Oh. What package is responsible for it? Kdelibs? Konqueror? |
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16:10.35 | grepper | did you check the bug database ? |
16:11.15 | blaster999 | Am just checking. The difficult thing is to find out the right search pattern |
16:13.18 | chavo | blaster999, having that problem here also |
16:13.39 | blaster999 | Seems that this bug hasn't been reported. |
16:13.59 | chavo | I'm running pretty current code from svn though. |
16:14.21 | chavo | so it's not fixed yet |
16:14.44 | blaster999 | It seems that this bug is only present in konqueror. Kwrite opens these dirs perfectly |
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16:16.06 | chavo | same here |
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16:17.16 | blaster999 | I'm gonna downgrade kde back to 3.4.1 |
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16:18.44 | chavo | I only had a couple of directories with [ or ] in the name |
16:18.53 | chavo | so i just renamed them |
16:19.08 | grepper | I suppose renaming your war3z files is not an option ? :P |
16:19.36 | blaster999 | grepper: No, I have all my music organized |
16:19.54 | blaster999 | Like this: Artist/[year] Album/Music files |
16:20.13 | blaster999 | Example: Deep Purple/[2004] Bananas |
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16:20.32 | blaster999 | There is just too many dirs to rename |
16:22.10 | blaster999 | And a firend of mine surrounded all upper-level dirs in his ~ with "[]"'s |
16:22.29 | blaster999 | He will not want to upgrade kde :) |
16:23.00 | grepper | blaster999: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107170 |
16:23.25 | texnofobix | lol |
16:23.34 | texnofobix | war3z are for losers |
16:23.36 | texnofobix | :P |
16:24.09 | blaster999 | grepper: Thanks, voting for it |
16:24.15 | grepper | blaster999: this one was reassigned to it http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=107673 |
16:24.32 | grepper | Status: RESOLVED |
16:25.02 | grepper | ok, that is just cause it was marked as a dup |
16:25.12 | grepper | the other is still marked NEW |
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16:35.47 | Frost | hello |
16:36.40 | blaster999 | Frost: hi |
16:36.40 | Frost | is there a way to save settings regarding indentation in quanta? I'd like it to keep a "Normal" indentation mode by default, but I don't know how to save the settings |
16:36.42 | Frost | any ideas? |
16:36.57 | Frost | heya blaster999 |
16:37.01 | blaster999 | Frost: Hmmm... Let me try |
16:37.14 | Frost | alright thanks |
16:37.36 | rutski89 | would KDE SVN build with gcc4? |
16:38.37 | blaster999 | Frost: Try Settings -> Configure Editor -> Indentation, change the mode and click OK. You may have to restart Quanta |
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16:38.47 | blaster999 | Frost: At least works for me |
16:39.34 | Frost | oh, thanks! |
16:39.53 | blaster999 | Frost: np |
16:40.08 | Frost | somehow missed that entry |
16:42.08 | Frost | blaster999: do you know if it's possible to make quanta tidy the text? |
16:42.23 | Frost | <html><head><title>Under construction</title></head><body>I said, it's under construction!</body></html> |
16:42.40 | Frost | can it make it look more pretty? |
16:42.41 | grepper | l33t |
16:43.18 | blaster999 | Frost: Not sure |
16:43.22 | Theory | doesn't it have tidy in the tools menu? |
16:43.54 | Frost | Theory: it has something like that in the tools menu but it's checked and I don't quite know what it does |
16:44.36 | Frost | oh Theory it's just checking if it's tidy, doesn't tidy it up itself |
16:46.56 | Frost | but I guess that's not critical anyways |
16:48.10 | blaster999 | Never thought that it should really FIX anything |
16:48.25 | Frost | yeah, not critical anyway |
16:48.37 | grepper | seems to by the debian description |
16:48.55 | grepper | * The page is reformatted, from a choice of indentation styles. |
16:49.44 | Frost | ah, maybe I need to select the text |
16:49.50 | grepper | http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/tidy |
16:51.13 | Frost | ah, edit->apply source indentation |
16:51.23 | Frost | nice |
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16:58.04 | rober | hi |
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17:21.57 | birchoff | anyone know how to get the search bar in konqueror |
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17:23.00 | Hawkwind | Can someone tell me, in konqueror I can do sftp://user@host and it works, but does krusader not have this option ? |
17:24.51 | texnofobix | birchoff: i've noticed if you switch over to like an web address it kicks in the search bar but not in the filemanager mode |
17:25.13 | Hawkwind | Figured it out. Didn't realize LISA needed to be running |
17:25.15 | texnofobix | Hawkwind: i have never tried krusader |
17:25.22 | texnofobix | kk |
17:25.33 | Hawkwind | Heh I haven't either. Learning experience |
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17:27.25 | birchoff | texnofobix, thats the thing the bar isnt there at all |
17:27.30 | birchoff | I am in web mode |
17:27.51 | texnofobix | oh |
17:27.52 | texnofobix | eek |
17:28.01 | texnofobix | i havent looked through all the options |
17:28.05 | texnofobix | might want to check there |
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17:31.16 | Flendor | Re. |
17:31.16 | birchoff | no luck no search thing in configure konqueror |
17:32.18 | texnofobix | :\ |
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17:41.32 | jamesots | So... KDE4. If I want to attempt to build it, do I just put qt4 somewhere and checkout kdebase and kdelibs from trunk? |
17:43.15 | lippel | jamesots: i think so, yes |
17:43.23 | lippel | haven't built it myself yet, though |
17:44.56 | freqmod | jamesots: i think you have to set the $QTDIR shell variable to where qt is installed. |
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17:45.23 | crispynix-v6 | indeed. might also want to look into konstruct; perhaps it's been updated for kde4 cvs |
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17:46.07 | jamesots | Is there any recommended way to build QT4? As my installation seems to be a bit messed up, as designer keeps segfaulting. |
17:47.00 | Beineri | ./configure --dont-crash |
17:47.34 | jamesots | Beineri: I must remember to add that option to my makefiles - would save a lot of bug hunting :) |
17:47.45 | pinotree | configure: unrecognized option: '--dont-crash' |
17:47.47 | freqmod | I have experiencedqt segfaults when extended input methods is enabled in the shell variables, but the program is not turned on |
17:47.49 | pinotree | ;) |
17:48.02 | lippel | designer crashing? i know that from qt3.x, it crashed whole X... |
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17:48.54 | The_Lord | wasn't kde 3.4 come with total transparency for konsole? |
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17:49.44 | The_Lord | wasn't kde 3.4 come with total transparency for konsole? |
17:49.45 | texnofobix | i only turn on partial |
17:49.52 | texnofobix | some is hard to read |
17:49.56 | The_Lord | yes |
17:50.15 | crispynix-v6 | total transparency? you mean composite? |
17:50.24 | The_Lord | yes, I think |
17:50.33 | crispynix-v6 | kde 3.4 does support composite, but a lot of drivers have problems with it. |
17:50.44 | The_Lord | I have nvidia |
17:50.52 | crispynix-v6 | same, and it can be problematic |
17:50.53 | The_Lord | How do I enable it? |
17:50.59 | Beineri | The_Lord: the code never went enabled into a release |
17:51.16 | crispynix-v6 | right click a window -> config window behavior -> translucency |
17:51.26 | birchoff | anyone care to explain to me what the plasma project for kde is |
17:51.35 | crispynix-v6 | don't try to start a 3D app without first killing kompmgr though |
17:51.41 | The_Lord | thx |
17:53.15 | grepper | 3. Unorganized material |
17:55.01 | The_Lord | crispynix-v6: It doesn't work |
17:55.35 | crispynix-v6 | The_Lord: xdpyinfo |grep -i composite |
17:55.41 | crispynix-v6 | The_Lord: anything show up? |
17:55.51 | narg | On konq, I have java installed, and I set the binary to 'java' in the config (which works from console), yet java app still dont work. Am I missing something? |
17:56.12 | The_Lord | Composite |
17:56.22 | crispynix-v6 | hrm |
17:56.32 | crispynix-v6 | try running kompmgr then use transset |
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17:56.56 | The_Lord | I did kompmgr on konsole |
17:57.00 | The_Lord | and now it works |
17:57.04 | The_Lord | but too slow |
17:57.05 | crispynix-v6 | ok |
17:57.26 | crispynix-v6 | composite is a bit slow, but not that much IME.. do you have RenderAccel enabled? |
17:57.34 | The_Lord | yes |
17:57.50 | crispynix-v6 | what vidcard? |
17:58.16 | The_Lord | GeForce 4 mx440 |
17:58.30 | crispynix-v6 | 5700 here; might be your vidcard, might not |
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17:58.40 | The_Lord | yes, I think |
17:58.59 | The_Lord | but that doesn't solve my question either |
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17:59.39 | The_Lord | what I want is konsole's background transparent |
17:59.59 | crispynix-v6 | oh, you don't need composite for that |
18:00.13 | The_Lord | yes, I know |
18:00.18 | The_Lord | I change the schema |
18:00.23 | crispynix-v6 | yep |
18:01.21 | The_Lord | but what that thing does is copy the background and refreshes it every time you move the window |
18:01.49 | crispynix-v6 | well, I don't move konsole very much so it doesn't bother me |
18:02.12 | The_Lord | :( |
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18:07.07 | dwango_ | but it also looks silly if the konsole is over another window |
18:08.04 | crispynix-v6 | true, although that could be a preference thing |
18:08.21 | crispynix-v6 | composite with no "fake" transparency might work for that |
18:08.44 | crispynix-v6 | I like fake transparency because it doesn't show windows underneath |
18:08.58 | crispynix-v6 | ... well, and composite is a bit weird with nvidia's driver |
18:10.45 | dwango_ | oh |
18:10.51 | dwango_ | i like seeing the windows underneath |
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18:11.40 | crispynix-v6 | depends on the app; for xchat and konsole, i'd rather not have anything but the desktop background showing through or I might not be able to see certain colored text. |
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18:29.00 | miklos | Hello! |
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18:47.12 | didier | salut |
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18:49.16 | tecnico | Anybody using PINE with Konsole ? Do you know how to get the bold letters to show up? |
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19:01.07 | smutzAgain | Question: Is SVG support being built into konqueror? |
19:01.24 | tecnico | Anyway in 3.4 to go back to the way the icons on kicker used to just zoom into the figure itself and get rid of the box with the text ? |
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19:04.52 | Beineri | tecnico: no |
19:04.55 | Lumination | hey does anybody know where to get 3.4.2 debs? |
19:05.07 | Beineri | Lumination: #debian-kde ;-) |
19:05.12 | Lumination | nice. |
19:05.23 | Beineri | at least complain there :-) |
19:05.40 | Lumination | lol |
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19:09.17 | Lumination | I wonder if it fixes the issue with alsa and system notifications volume |
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19:09.31 | Lumination | if that even is a kde issue |
19:11.11 | Blissex | smutzAgain: yes, and no, and yes. |
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19:15.56 | Kyaneos | hi |
19:17.03 | treat | what's up? |
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19:20.27 | apow | anyone knows how to add a plugin to konqueror? |
19:20.58 | apow | i downloaded and compiled musicman, installed it but it doesnt show up on my konq popup as it should |
19:21.05 | apow | and the docs are just poor :P |
19:21.18 | Beineri | "Settings/Configure Extensions..."? What is musicman? |
19:22.16 | Beineri | or installed to wrong/not searched prefix? |
19:22.50 | apow | http://musicman.sourceforge.net |
19:22.58 | apow | how do i check the extensions path? |
19:23.42 | Blissex | apow: which extension path? (perhaps 'kde-config' might help) |
19:24.01 | treat | can i make krusader the default file manager? |
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19:28.51 | apow | brb |
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19:31.29 | Blissex | treat: yes, depending on what you mean by «default file manager» |
19:31.40 | IceD^ | hmm |
19:31.49 | IceD^ | I just got new konqui 3.4.2 |
19:31.56 | IceD^ | and ACID2 still doesn't look OK |
19:32.15 | treat | i want it to show up when i press teh home button |
19:33.47 | Blissex | treat: look then at the Control Center, in particular the 'KDE components->File manager' and 'Regional&Accessibility:KHotKeys' and similar. |
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19:35.10 | battlecat | Hi. What services are needed on a linux box running KDE with Apache and MySQL? |
19:35.42 | Blissex | battlecat: it really depends on what you want to do? |
19:38.39 | treat | i can't find 0_o "Component Chooser" would be teh logical choice but there is no filemanager option |
19:39.40 | tecnico | tnx. Beineri. I liked the old way much better... but anyway... |
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19:49.36 | treat | mmmm i tried changing file association for inode/folder but then krusader won |
19:49.39 | treat | 't start |
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19:54.30 | miklos | hello |
19:54.54 | treat | hi |
19:58.41 | miklos | Who are from Europe?? or Hungary? |
19:58.53 | miklos | in hungary |
19:58.56 | miklos | magyar! |
19:59.17 | miklos | No ONE?? |
19:59.23 | miklos | okay |
19:59.29 | pinotree | europe? |
19:59.40 | pinotree | <-- european |
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20:00.47 | miklos | :-D |
20:06.32 | miklos | Bye pinotree and treat |
20:06.35 | miklos | i must go |
20:06.38 | miklos | Bye |
20:06.39 | pinotree | bye miklos |
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20:11.32 | _drac | mornin all |
20:11.49 | treat | what's down? |
20:12.07 | _drac | wow |
20:12.11 | _drac | I messed KDE up good |
20:12.20 | treat | ;_; |
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20:12.53 | cyberpro | :) |
20:13.29 | _drac | I was hoping on having a newley compiled KDE3.5 when I woke up, got a bunch of errors messages so I reinstalled from packages and everything is ... realllly messed up |
20:14.05 | texnofobix | trying out KDE brb 3.4.2 |
20:14.57 | _drac | I cant find QT |
20:15.01 | _drac | Its like, not here |
20:15.16 | birchoff | does anyone know if there is a way to set the defualt way konqueror shows files in a specific folder |
20:16.27 | _drac | no idea birchoff |
20:16.51 | htedrom | birchoff: doesn't it do it automatically? |
20:17.11 | htedrom | birchoff: mine just remembers |
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20:22.13 | _drac | Ohhh kdebuild-svn gives a build % |
20:22.14 | _drac | niiiiiice |
20:22.33 | RaduAlexandru | what is dat? |
20:23.02 | _drac | It checksout and builds everything in branch 3.5 |
20:23.16 | _drac | and all you have to do is type kdesvn-build |
20:23.17 | _drac | =) |
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20:25.12 | semo | hi |
20:26.00 | birchoff | ok |
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20:26.19 | _drac | get it at www.kde-apps.org |
20:26.40 | semo | i have a problem withe a double head graphik device and the xorg.conf. i dont get the left monitor to be the first screen |
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20:28.07 | semo | revlo: http://nopaste.php-q.net/150429 here is my xorg.conf |
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20:29.08 | _drac | Overall time for arts was 8 minutes, and 47 seconds lovleyh |
20:29.10 | _drac | =) |
20:31.05 | bravey | semo why don |
20:31.10 | bravey | t you use twinview? |
20:31.37 | semo | bravey: what is twinview? |
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20:33.11 | EdB | hi |
20:33.26 | EdB | is any irc chan related to konqueror ? |
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20:44.08 | michaels233 | . |
20:44.39 | michaels233 | hi im new to this thing so help me out please |
20:45.31 | _drac | Hey michaels233 |
20:45.34 | _drac | whats your problem? |
20:46.36 | _drac | lol |
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20:47.18 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | is this something like a support channel? |
20:47.24 | semo | hmm maybe this was his problem |
20:47.30 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | erm, hi^^ |
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20:49.14 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | is here another mandriva user? Is your KDE 3.4.2 running stable? |
20:49.30 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | from rpm of kde.org |
20:50.35 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | -___- |
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20:51.36 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Doesn't it work? (I don't have Mandriva) |
20:51.48 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | it works, but not that good |
20:52.01 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | kicker crashes very often |
20:52.28 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | icons form desktop and menu are missing and will be back after that crash |
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20:53.18 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | but i like that version and dont want to downgrade back to 3.3....? |
20:53.44 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Doesn't KDE 3.4.1 work either? |
20:53.49 | _drac | Naruto_UzumakiMT: where did you get teh packages, or whatever your distro uses, from? |
20:54.14 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i didnt try, no rpms and my try to compile an kde(dunno version) took looooong |
20:54.29 | _drac | yes KDE takes a few hours on a good system to compile |
20:54.47 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | and my system is not that good :P |
20:54.51 | _drac | lol |
20:55.26 | _drac | So, where did you get kde 3.4.2 from? |
20:55.39 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | kde.org ftp |
20:55.57 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i wonder if it could be some conflicts with the old config |
20:56.21 | ba | When I use KDM it flashes to a grey screen, then back to login. When I use GDM it works fine. Any clue where to start looking at this problem? |
20:56.27 | _drac | yes always always always uninstlal KDE before installing a new version on the same directory |
20:56.51 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: The config should be migrited at the first run of the new KDE version. |
20:57.26 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | so i should logout and delete the old config and look if the new created makes it better |
20:58.23 | _drac | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Did you reinstall KDE 3.4.2 over the same directory as 3.4.1/3.4? |
20:58.51 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | erm... i used the mandriva rpms, dunno wher it is |
20:58.52 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Deleting is defenetly not neccesairy: moving is good enough, and in most cases also unnessesairy. |
20:59.28 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i thougt that rpm system would delete it by itself it it is neccesary |
20:59.29 | _drac | I always though installing over a KDE installion is bad |
20:59.39 | _drac | It may, im not familiar with RPM's |
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21:00.11 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | debian user?^^ |
21:00.35 | _drac | slack :) |
21:00.57 | mart_k | _drac: But then the packages are bad for alle Mandriva users. |
21:00.59 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | ah, ok |
21:01.23 | _drac | mart_k: Err? what |
21:02.06 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Maybe there is a bug in the package. It could be corrected over a couple of days. |
21:03.02 | mart_k | _drac: If a package doesn't work because it overrides the previous KDE installation, it does so on all Mandriva systems, and thus KDE will not work correctly on all Mandriva systems. |
21:03.07 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | uninstalling would uninstall many other programs too... -__- i will have much to do |
21:03.26 | _drac | mart_k: Ahh ok I see, I always just removepkg everything automatically as slackpkg doesnt do it =) |
21:04.02 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: I'm not sure that is the problem. |
21:04.57 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | hm, i should download some packages again and compare them |
21:04.58 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: But I also don't know how to correct this. |
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21:06.49 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | damn, i like this 3.4.2 but it makes me mad sometimes |
21:07.53 | _drac | yaya kdelibs 3.5 is at 75% |
21:07.58 | _drac | compiled that is |
21:08.57 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i will try what you told me, and if it fails i will make you responsible for it :P |
21:09.02 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | thanks |
21:09.10 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | for the helping |
21:09.14 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Which Mandriva version do you have? |
21:09.23 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | 2005 le dvd |
21:09.44 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Is that equal to 10.2? |
21:09.50 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | yes |
21:10.30 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: rpm for wrong versions can cause this kind of things, but it is the good version. |
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21:10.36 | _drac | Naruto_UzumakiMT: uninstalling and reinstalling? Im not sure if that is needed im not familiar with rpm packages =) |
21:11.27 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i think/thougt it worked well, it started the new version automatically and it looked to be allrigth after first start |
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21:11.59 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: To check if the config is the problem, you can make a new (temporely) user and log in. |
21:12.32 | IceD^ | so what's about ACID2? |
21:12.41 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | oh, good idea |
21:12.43 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: If that user doesn't have any problems, the config (in ~/.kde) is the problem. |
21:13.10 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i always shoot my configs^^ |
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21:15.07 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | how to start a new session without logout like in previous kde versions? |
21:15.20 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: After that, I don't know any more solutions. But maybe there are Mandriva users here at another time. |
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21:16.37 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Log in in a text prompt, and then type: "startx -- :1 /path/to/kde/startkde" (if I remember correctly) |
21:17.39 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: No, it is the other way around: |
21:18.06 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: startx /path/to/kde/startkde -- :1 |
21:19.19 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | <PROTECTED> |
21:21.49 | IceD^ | errr |
21:22.06 | IceD^ | K Menu / Switch User / Start New Session? |
21:22.48 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | dont have that menu entry |
21:22.54 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | thats why i asked |
21:22.59 | mart_k | IceD^: AFAIK that depends on the desktop manager. |
21:23.36 | IceD^ | use kdm |
21:23.36 | IceD^ | and be happy |
21:23.44 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | me too |
21:24.12 | IceD^ | Naruto_UzumakiMT: hmm |
21:24.23 | IceD^ | Naruto_UzumakiMT: use good distro :] |
21:25.36 | ba | meh, kdm sucks |
21:26.00 | IceD^ | ba: ? |
21:26.03 | IceD^ | why so? |
21:26.06 | ba | Doesn't work for me. :) |
21:26.31 | IceD^ | I'm using it once per week for 2 seconds (needed to type password) |
21:26.46 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | omg, even an konqueror plugin works now without crashing it |
21:26.52 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | it is my config |
21:27.07 | ba | It just loops back to login for me. I can't find anything that will fix it as of yet. |
21:27.32 | IceD^ | ba: use good distro as well |
21:27.44 | ba | I use debian |
21:28.07 | IceD^ | hmmm |
21:28.15 | IceD^ | strange |
21:28.16 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Do you know how to 'delete' a configuration? |
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21:28.23 | IceD^ | I have one debian box and it's OK there |
21:28.36 | ba | the odd thing is that gdm works fine |
21:29.45 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | erm. rm -Rf .kde |
21:30.02 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | is maybe wrong |
21:30.06 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Better move it away. |
21:30.28 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: mv .kde .kde_bak |
21:30.53 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | then it is at another place and i cant use it anyway |
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21:31.50 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | oO |
21:31.55 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: If it is another problem problem after all and it crashes again, you can move back your personal settings. |
21:32.16 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | ic |
21:32.30 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: If it works perfectly with a new .kde, you can delete the backup afterwards. |
21:32.50 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i will be in a few secs |
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21:35.19 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | all icons are still in the menu |
21:35.43 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Only a few things are stored elsewhere. |
21:36.16 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Menu items are one of them. |
21:38.16 | carl_1 | yay kdelivs 99%! |
21:38.19 | carl_1 | libs even |
21:38.47 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | :) |
21:40.58 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | ok, i think it is the config |
21:41.15 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: It still works? |
21:41.33 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | yes |
21:42.24 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | even that photobook(if it is calle like that in english) plugin in koqueror works, in my acc. it crashed by clicking on it |
21:42.48 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | even with the old kde |
21:43.03 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Then this is how it should work:) |
21:43.38 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | the other way to quit programs |
21:45.08 | carl_1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:46.42 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | cool, i just noticed 2 coredumps in my home dor |
21:46.45 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | *dir |
21:47.04 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | how to shoot an configuration that bad -.- |
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21:48.25 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: There are ways to ruin a configuration (I think running KDE 3.4, and then KDE 3.3 as the same user works). |
21:49.31 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i can do it in anyway, doesnt matter if kde or linux itself, i just shot my lilo.conf today, i shouldnt experiment with working configs |
21:51.06 | mart_k | Naruto_UzumakiMT: Good luck and enjoy your new version of kde (I'm going to bed). |
21:51.19 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | ok, cya |
21:51.59 | semo | what i must do to twinview that it change the main screen to the other moniotr |
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21:53.10 | benJIman | set the offset to appropriate value , or use the relevant of leftof/rightof etc |
21:53.27 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | what graphic crad do you have? |
21:53.32 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | semo |
21:53.40 | semo | the leftof / rightof setiig is sensless |
21:53.47 | benJIman | senseless? |
21:54.01 | benJIman | you can also specify the offset manually in the metamodes if you want |
21:54.09 | semo | benJIman: i changed it in the conf but nothing changed |
21:54.15 | benJIman | semo: you have to restart X |
21:54.23 | semo | Naruto_UzumakiMT: i have an GeForce FX 5700 |
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21:54.43 | benJIman | anyway you can specify it manually in terms of pixels in the metamodes |
21:54.48 | benJIman | http://susewiki.apanela.com/tutorials:twinview#monitor_layout |
21:55.04 | semo | i start kde with "startx" so i start x everztime new if i start kde |
21:56.42 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | i have gf too and dont get it how to get twinview working, but the link that benJIman(thanks) wrote will help |
21:56.54 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | so i will shut up now |
21:58.38 | carl_1 | <PROTECTED> |
21:58.39 | carl_1 | :S |
21:59.09 | Naruto_UzumakiMT | that sux... |
21:59.10 | benJIman | do you need to make -f Makefile.cvs first? |
21:59.20 | carl_1 | Its a script doing it |
21:59.23 | carl_1 | im checking the logs right now |
21:59.37 | carl_1 | if I could remember where they are |
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22:00.30 | carl_1 | checking for pam_start in -lpam... no |
22:00.30 | carl_1 | configure: error: --with-pam was specified, but cannot compile with PAM! |
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22:02.16 | carl_1 | I just rmeoved --with-pam |
22:02.19 | carl_1 | hope it isnt important |
22:02.20 | carl_1 | =) |
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22:02.44 | semo | benJIman: can i say this monitor will start at this pixel and that monitor will start at that? |
22:03.07 | tbscope | carl_1, either install pam or use --without-pam when you configure |
22:03.07 | benJIman | semo: you specify the pixel offset for the second monitor from the first monitor |
22:03.24 | carl_1 | tbscope: What is pam? |
22:03.39 | tbscope | security modules as far as I know |
22:03.49 | carl_1 | ahh, so probabbly not worth installing |
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22:04.16 | tbscope | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/libs/pam/ |
22:04.23 | carl_1 | yea I just googled it |
22:04.25 | carl_1 | not worth it =) |
22:05.00 | Diilber1 | My question is probably stupid.. but here is my problem... I am new to linux development... .. I want to run my application on a double click of the Binary... but it will not run unless I run the ./BInary_Name command from the shell |
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22:05.17 | carl_1 | Err |
22:05.19 | carl_1 | guess not |
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22:05.37 | carl_1 | Ahh hes back |
22:05.38 | Diilbert | Any ideas ? |
22:05.41 | carl_1 | yea |
22:05.49 | tbscope | Dillber1, if you can run it from a command line, then you should be able to run it by clicking on an icon too |
22:05.50 | pakos | hmm, pam is used for overall authentication - by kdm too, i suppose. so if you build kdm without pam, you can't log in |
22:05.52 | carl_1 | Set the shortcut up so target is /dir/binary |
22:06.00 | carl_1 | pakos: I dont use KDM |
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22:06.12 | pakos | carl_1: than it's ok :) |
22:06.30 | Diilbert | tbscope: well it doesn't |
22:06.31 | Diilbert | :p |
22:06.34 | koala_man | Diilbert: if it's a text mode app, then you won't see the text it outputs if you double click it |
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22:06.41 | carl_1 | set the "command" to /home/blah/program |
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22:06.50 | Diilbert | If I go to the command line and type the absolute path it will run |
22:06.51 | carl_1 | And if its text check off run in termional |
22:06.57 | tbscope | Diilbert, is the command executed by clicking the icon really the same as your command line command ? |
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22:07.13 | Diilbert | koal_man: It is an application I am working on w/ WxWidgets |
22:07.28 | tbscope | Diilbery, did you set your environment variables correct? like PATH for example |
22:07.55 | Diilbert | <PROTECTED> |
22:07.57 | miklos | Hi all! |
22:07.58 | pakos | anyone who's got kdesvn-build working? actually i have no luck with it |
22:08.08 | Diilbert | tbscope: how do I do it |
22:08.18 | tbscope | Diilbert, then do: export PATH=/path/to/your/prog:$PATH |
22:08.19 | carl_1 | pakos: Im building KDE svn with it right now |
22:08.33 | pakos | carl_1: with the kdesvn-build script? |
22:08.34 | tbscope | Dillbert, add that line in your ~/.bashrc file |
22:08.37 | carl_1 | pakos: yes |
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22:08.58 | pakos | carl_1: with or without unsermake? |
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22:09.11 | carl_1 | pakos: I couldnt get it to work with QT so im not compiling QT just using the one I ahve |
22:09.20 | carl_1 | pakos: I think without |
22:09.38 | pakos | carl_1: i skipped qt too. but unsermake gives me python errors :-/ |
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22:09.59 | carl_1 | pakos: aye build it without =) |
22:10.01 | carl_1 | I have to go though |
22:10.02 | carl_1 | cya all |
22:10.25 | pakos | carl_1: and if i switch it off (in the config), then it's going to use automake, and says, that i must have automake1.6 or greater. but i have.. |
22:10.41 | Diilbert | tbscope: It works fromt he command line, but if I double click the Binary in Konqueror, no such luck |
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22:13.00 | miklos | Hi patkos! |
22:13.19 | miklos | mármint szia, magyarul :-) |
22:13.34 | pakos | miklos: hi there :) (but there's no 't' in my name) |
22:14.07 | miklos | mivan??? a zárójelben ami van azt nemértem |
22:14.29 | pinotree | o_O |
22:14.39 | miklos | follow that sentenes please, mármint fordítsd le lécci |
22:14.44 | Diilbert | <PROTECTED> |
22:14.59 | semo | benJIman: u are my hero |
22:15.03 | pakos | miklos: the nick is 'pakos', not 'patkos' :-) |
22:15.14 | miklos | aha, hanem ki? |
22:15.23 | tbscope | Diilbert, nope. |
22:15.44 | semo | benJIman: after endless tryes to get that shit work u made it :) thx |
22:16.05 | benJIman | you're welcome |
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22:18.19 | birchoff | so here is the million dollar question how do I get KDE to force me to double click icons insteead of single click |
22:19.06 | pakos | birchoff: open control center, click on the 'search' tab, and type 'doubl' |
22:19.16 | Diilbert | Diilbert: Anyone else ? |
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22:19.33 | forlorn | control center, periferals, mouse |
22:19.54 | Diilbert | Talking to myself again :) |
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22:21.50 | Diilbert | Any ideas where a good place to look would be for info ? |
22:21.56 | Diilbert | one sec |
22:22.00 | birchoff | thanks pakos |
22:22.00 | Diilbert | brb |
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22:22.28 | birchoff | pakos, you wouldnt by anychance know how I can remove some of the buttons in the navigation panel in kdevelop |
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22:23.37 | ectospazm | I'm looking for system monitoring apps for KDE. I'm used to using gkrellm2 in Fluxbox, I want something similar now that I'm trying out KDE... |
22:24.08 | semo | benJIman: how do i say twinview what a refresh rate i want to have at this or this resolution |
22:24.08 | pakos | birchoff: which buttons, for example? |
22:24.54 | benJIman | semo: I think it goes by the modelines defined in the screen section, i'm not certain though |
22:25.22 | semo | hmmm k i try |
22:25.30 | thiago | ectospasm: ksysguard, ksim |
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22:25.41 | benJIman | you can specify secondmonitor.... for the ranges |
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22:27.52 | birchoff | pakos, how about the file selector button |
22:28.30 | pakos | Project / Project options / Plugins |
22:28.44 | pakos | Disable what you don't need |
22:29.07 | birchoff | pakos, if your male I owe you a case of bear and your female I could just kiss you right now |
22:29.40 | birchoff | beer* |
22:29.49 | pakos | birchoff: o, i write down the beer promise :) |
22:29.58 | birchoff | lol |
22:30.13 | birchoff | Kdevelop just became my ide of choice in linux |
22:30.17 | pakos | yeah, beer is better as bear :) |
22:30.21 | birchoff | I am a very very happy camper |
22:30.29 | birchoff | lol |
22:30.52 | ectospasm | thiago: ksysguard is not what I'm looking for. I was hoping for something that would dock to the panel, or something |
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22:38.26 | thiago | ectospasm: try the ksysguard panel applet |
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22:41.06 | forlorn | the only prob with ksysguard is that it can't be run in tray for quick access to process info via --showprocesses |
22:41.38 | forlorn | even with systraycmd it doesn't work |
22:43.01 | wsjunior | ectospasm: http://netdragon.sourceforge.net/ |
22:43.58 | Octane | anyone know how to prevent Konqueror (file management) from displaying the bookmark toolbar when opening a new tab |
22:44.03 | Octane | when browsing files |
22:44.37 | Lord-Phoenix | Octane: set it up how you want it, and then save over the file management profile |
22:46.17 | Octane | Lord-Phoenix: yes, my file mgt profile doesnt have the bookmark folder, however, a new tab does |
22:47.47 | Lord-Phoenix | hmm...what view profile comes up by default? |
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22:48.23 | Octane | Lord-Phoenix: i did save over my old file-management profile and now its not happening -- thanks for your help |
22:48.31 | Octane | thiago: great interview on kde, good read! |
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22:48.53 | miklos | i come back pakos! |
22:48.55 | miklos | thx |
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22:52.41 | thiago | Octane: thanks |
22:55.10 | Lord-Phoenix | thiago: yeah, the tabs and spaces answer was just classic |
22:55.40 | miklos | pakos! Where are you? you comback: please answer my question! |
22:55.54 | miklos | comeback* |
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23:01.01 | miklos | thanks |
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23:04.52 | Octane | lol |
23:05.03 | Octane | poor miklos |
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23:23.04 | paulo | hi. Does anyone know how to export geo data from kaddressbook to the kworldclock? |
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23:26.15 | solarpluck | What's the service that allows you to view the login screen of another computer called? |
23:27.19 | solarpluck | Ah KDM! |
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23:33.20 | birchoff | is there a tutorial on how to do kdm themes/splash screens |
23:34.26 | paulo | have you looked in kde-look.org? |
23:34.47 | birchoff | where on kde-look |
23:35.00 | paulo | I don't know, I was just suggesting |
23:35.04 | birchoff | ok |
23:35.17 | birchoff | thanks for the suggestion, but I dont see any on here |
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23:37.59 | paulo | have you been here? |
23:38.01 | paulo | http://kde-look.org/help/index.php?PHPSESSID=273227b0381924907a2894470521b18b |
23:38.11 | paulo | it has parts of themes, I suppose |
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23:39.10 | blueyed | How can I debug-enable Qt and KDE? So that backtraces of crashing apps (KMail for example) don't have that many "(no debugging symbols found)" lines? |
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23:41.33 | birchoff | yeah but thats installing the themes.. I am interested in a tut on how to create a theme for KDM and KDE Splashes |
23:41.49 | birchoff | if there isnt one I guess I will just have to reverse the process |
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23:43.12 | Frogbarf | does anyone know why juk returns an error saying that you can only play local files when trying to play an audio cd? |
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23:44.33 | Frogbarf | with juk |
23:44.42 | paulo | birchoff: That page wasn't just to install, it has a developer section after the installation instructions |
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23:52.50 | matteoroxx | hi |
23:52.54 | matteoroxx | i'm using gentoo |
23:53.09 | |RepriSaL| | nice choise ;) |
23:54.20 | matteoroxx | have i to unmasked every package to install kde 3.4.2 ? |
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23:55.50 | |RepriSaL| | you have to use the correct USE flag to unmask masked packages |
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23:56.13 | forlorn | USE flag??? |
23:56.42 | forlorn | put every package you need to unmask in /etc/portage/package.keywords |
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