| 00:00.45 | sycofly | SteamedPenguin: no desktop at all .. a very poor looking bash prompt .. thats how i managed to get KSirc up |
| 00:01.01 | Theory | what distro? |
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| 00:01.58 | sycofly | lauri: ..sorry i didnt see that message .. |
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| 00:02.54 | sycofly | hehe .. was going to start up a terminal but this app is all im aloud |
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| 01:27.27 | amicrawler | hey need HELP PLEZ |
| 01:27.54 | grepper | amicrawler: just ask |
| 01:28.17 | amicrawler | my grip i made it goto this |
| 01:28.28 | amicrawler | Unable to initialize [/dev/cdrom2] |
| 01:28.38 | amicrawler | how do i get it back to cdrom |
| 01:28.45 | grepper | grip is not a kde app :) |
| 01:29.02 | Dhraakellian | kaudiocreator and k3b are |
| 01:29.02 | amicrawler | do they have a krip |
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| 01:29.17 | Venson | audiocd:/ |
| 01:29.22 | Dhraakellian | amicrawler: kaudiocreator |
| 01:29.35 | grepper | kaudiocreator |
| 01:29.41 | amicrawler | how do you rip in kaudio? |
| 01:29.46 | oneless | err how do i unistall a icon package that doesn't work and the unistall is greyed out |
| 01:30.00 | oneless | Pastels -nuvol-1 |
| 01:30.05 | oneless | kde 3.3.2 |
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| 01:30.35 | Dhraakellian | I think kde picks up on gnome icon themes for some reason |
| 01:31.10 | Dhraakellian | which is a tad confusing at times, since KDE can't use gnome's icon sets |
| 01:31.42 | SteamedPenguin | audiocd:/ rocks |
| 01:32.13 | SteamedPenguin | kaudiocreator has a funky interface |
| 01:32.15 | grepper | An error occurred while loading audiocd:/ rocks: |
| 01:32.22 | SteamedPenguin | that app could use some tlc |
| 01:33.02 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 01:33.04 | oneless | 12057-BusinessIcons.zip 19317-magician_icons.tar.gzc energia-3.2.tar.gz don't want to install with the install manager |
| 01:33.25 | oneless | pastels-nuvola-1.tar.bz2 this did but try and apply it and nothing |
| 01:33.49 | Dhraakellian | well, one thing that I don't like about kaudiocreator is the fact that you can't set bitrate and such from its settings |
| 01:34.39 | Dhraakellian | if it had the stuff from kcmshell audiocd in it, it might be a tad nicer |
| 01:39.25 | grepper | do other people find the font selection box buggy in kword ? Slow display, hangs sometimes . . . |
| 01:39.46 | SteamedPenguin | grepper: hell, I'd be happy is the table resizing worked properly |
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| 01:39.54 | KoMpLoT | hi |
| 01:39.57 | grepper | hmm |
| 01:40.16 | KoMpLoT | would like to know how can I make to view the CrossOver Windows Application menu on the K Menu |
| 01:40.28 | grepper | SteamedPenguin: what about the font selection box - is it just something about my system or is this a common complaint ? |
| 01:41.13 | KoMpLoT | i remember it was some problem related to the name the folder has, but I don't remember where kde has that folder |
| 01:42.03 | oneless | ma installing themes and icones it an friggin pain :::( |
| 01:47.41 | Venson | i think the systray clock could do a few things to make it more user friendly |
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| 01:50.51 | Delicates | is there a workaround for keyboard layout bug to get rid of "-variant intl" ? |
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| 01:55.18 | BaDDaSS | Hey guys |
| 01:55.28 | BaDDaSS | If a theme refuses to remove with kcontrol |
| 01:55.33 | BaDDaSS | What should I do ;s |
| 01:57.05 | SadEagle | Delicates: you need to edit some files in X, let me see. |
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| 01:59.34 | m4ktub | Hi, I'm trying to make use KHTMLPart::selection() to get a XML (with <tag></tag>) string of the selected contents. Does anyone know if thereis some utility function thats takes a node and does this? |
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| 02:03.39 | sarah03 | WTF. |
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| 02:05.56 | sarah03 | I was fiddling with Qt Designer; clicked on the toolbar widget that I'd added, and Xorg crashed. |
| 02:06.29 | m4ktub | IMHO ... you have a problem |
| 02:07.52 | BaDDaSS | lol |
| 02:09.14 | sarah03 | Probably. Last night my system crashed hard and wouldn't come back up until I managed to run xfs_repair [which won't run on a partition that's mounted, even if it's mounted ro.] |
| 02:11.33 | m4ktub | Has anyone used DOM drom khtml library? |
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| 02:12.21 | SadEagle | Delicates: still trying to find it, not sure I will |
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| 02:16.36 | Delicates | SadEagle: it's just a pain having to run setkbxmap manually all the time |
| 02:16.58 | SadEagle | Delicates: there is some screw up in the en_US file that ships with the X server.. |
| 02:18.07 | SadEagle | Delicates: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=96592#c5 |
| 02:18.10 | SadEagle | Delicates: remove "hidden" |
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| 02:23.21 | SadEagle | hi annma |
| 02:23.34 | annma | hi SadEagle |
| 02:24.53 | Delicates | SadEagle: thank you very much, that fixed it :o) |
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| 02:27.01 | SadEagle | Delicates: you're very welcome |
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| 02:27.22 | grepper | anyone using a sharing a KDEHOME between HEAD and 3.3.x ? Is it liable to mess anything up ? |
| 02:27.33 | SadEagle | m4ktub: #kde-devel, or #khtml |
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| 02:31.18 | annma | grepper: might mess up some things |
| 02:31.33 | grepper | annma: ok, thanks |
| 02:31.46 | m4ktub | SadEagle: thanks, din't know that channels |
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| 02:33.11 | sarah03 | Hm. Is there any reason why kate doesn't save it's state when it's terminated unexpectedly? |
| 02:33.48 | Alethes | 'cause it's unexpected? |
| 02:34.01 | sarah03 | Alethes: pico and nano both do it. |
| 02:34.21 | Alethes | I'm kidding |
| 02:34.22 | Alethes | :) |
| 02:35.13 | gregday_ | any souls wanna tell me how to change Xorg's install path? |
| 02:35.16 | inc|freaky | hey sarah03 :) how are ya? (: |
| 02:35.38 | sarah03 | 'ello. |
| 02:35.47 | inc|freaky | ;D |
| 02:35.51 | inc|freaky | hehe, i have nothing to do |
| 02:35.53 | gregday_ | imake hates me |
| 02:35.55 | inc|freaky | and i dont wanna learn html |
| 02:35.57 | inc|freaky | and css |
| 02:37.40 | sarah03 | HTML and CSS aren't hard to learn. |
| 02:37.52 | inc|freaky | i know ;) |
| 02:40.43 | sarah03 | gregday_: xc/config/cf/host.def - #define ProjectRoot /install/path |
| 02:41.22 | gregday_ | thanks |
| 02:42.27 | sarah03 | All I stuck in my host.def was '#define HasFreetype2 NO' because otherwise the build would explode all over the place. |
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| 02:56.45 | Texaco | just upgraded to 3.3.2 on freebsd via ports --- no screensavers except blank and random (that's useful) -- where did they go? |
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| 03:04.49 | Texaco | heh. nevermind. |
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| 03:09.00 | Alethes | kdialog --passivepopup "`ps -aux | head -6 | tail -5 | awk '{print $11 \"\t\t(" $3 \"%, " $2 ")\"}'`" |
| 03:09.02 | Alethes | how handy :D |
| 03:09.23 | Alethes | I'm gonna have that show up whenever my cpu usage is higher than 50% |
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| 03:11.05 | annma | do't mention passive popups |
| 03:11.16 | Alethes | :x |
| 03:11.24 | annma | I'm trying to add one in my code and I can't!!!!!!! |
| 03:12.23 | Alethes | call kdialog :D |
| 03:13.14 | annma | beautiful, yes |
| 03:13.29 | annma | but maybe a bit heavy for the purpose |
| 03:13.36 | Alethes | hehe |
| 03:13.40 | annma | my popup should pop at a special place |
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| 03:36.14 | Alethes | anybody here good with awk? |
| 03:36.20 | Alethes | uptime | awk '{print $10}' |
| 03:36.26 | Alethes | I need to lose the comma after that |
| 03:40.24 | slackd00d | i get "0.04"...no comma |
| 03:40.34 | Alethes | hmm |
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| 03:40.41 | Alethes | might be fbsd's uptime |
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| 03:41.09 | Alethes | nope |
| 03:41.13 | Alethes | slack's uptime is the same way |
| 03:41.21 | slackd00d | hmmm |
| 03:41.35 | slackd00d | i use gentoo so i guess i cant help ya =) |
| 03:41.39 | Alethes | heh |
| 03:41.48 | Alethes | I figured you'd use slack :P |
| 03:41.56 | slackd00d | = ) |
| 03:42.15 | slackd00d | i just switched...i have my slack box upstairs on my other box |
| 03:42.29 | Alethes | ah ok |
| 03:42.42 | gregday_ | is slckware just the most popular distro for kde users? |
| 03:43.02 | Alethes | I always used gnome with slack |
| 03:43.05 | Alethes | well |
| 03:43.06 | Alethes | not always |
| 03:43.08 | slackd00d | most people do it seems |
| 03:43.10 | Alethes | used icewm a lot too |
| 03:43.13 | slackd00d | use gnome i mean |
| 03:44.24 | oneless | hey the spash screen dloads that require a plugin . What plugin do they require ?Nirvana grudge are acouple and I don't see anthing saying ? |
| 03:45.03 | slackd00d | brilliant? |
| 03:45.52 | slackd00d | i mean the flexable plug-in? |
| 03:46.44 | oneless | any where is this ?\ |
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| 03:47.01 | oneless | doesn't say what plugin it requirs:( |
| 03:47.18 | oneless | any/and |
| 03:48.35 | slackd00d | http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20623 |
| 03:49.06 | slackd00d | not sure if thats the plug-in it needs...but thats the only one i know of |
| 03:52.29 | oneless | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=20327 |
| 03:52.56 | oneless | this needs one t6oo but that page says nothing about irt |
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| 03:56.30 | oneless | where does the plugin go ?\ |
| 03:57.30 | slackd00d | why does it need a plugin? |
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| 04:00.10 | oneless | donno thats all it says from splashscreen manager |
| 04:00.23 | dwango | If I have a window whose title bar touches the top of the screen, and i move the mouse cursor to the top of the screen (the window resize cursor appears), the mouse cursor jumps ~50px to the right, and it jumps back when I move the mouse away from the top of the screen. Anyone know what this is? |
| 04:00.28 | oneless | only 4 I downloaded said that |
| 04:00.45 | oneless | grudge,nirvana,2 otherts |
| 04:01.18 | oneless | avp |
| 04:01.32 | slackd00d | he just messed up in the Theme.rc |
| 04:01.46 | oneless | This theme requires the plugin default which is not installed. |
| 04:01.58 | slackd00d | look in the archive in the Theme.rc file and change Engine = default to Engine = Default |
| 04:02.39 | oneless | I notice they stay zipwed up egh |
| 04:03.19 | oneless | Engine = default |
| 04:03.19 | slackd00d | just extract the grudge dir, change the file then gzip it back up |
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| 04:03.23 | slackd00d | ya |
| 04:03.30 | oneless | it has it |
| 04:03.31 | slackd00d | to Engine = Default |
| 04:03.39 | slackd00d | Default not default |
| 04:03.45 | oneless | oh casp |
| 04:03.50 | oneless | err cap[ |
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| 04:10.01 | oneless | err hiow do i zip up the dir in konq |
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| 04:10.48 | oneless | right click on it and cpmpress add to archive ? |
| 04:10.59 | oneless | if you the dir shows empty |
| 04:11.13 | oneless | have the default checked for tar.gz |
| 04:11.35 | oneless | if I have it show all files it fails to copmpress |
| 04:11.46 | slackd00d | use ark |
| 04:12.23 | oneless | yeah isn't right click part of ark? |
| 04:12.30 | slackd00d | what |
| 04:13.17 | oneless | right clicking on the dirt in konq |
| 04:13.41 | idlemind86 | oneless: have you right clicked on the folder then -> actions -> then archive folder or archive/encrypt folder |
| 04:14.23 | slackd00d | Compress then Compress as grudge.tar.gz but make sure you dont have a file name grudge.tar.gz already there |
| 04:14.31 | oneless | got it this version of kde hs changed the top pick works now |
| 04:14.48 | oneless | used to have to do it add to archives which never made sence |
| 04:16.30 | oneless | thanks that fixed it :) |
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| 04:22.01 | slackd00d | oneless, it works now? |
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| 04:25.51 | idlemind86 | for anyone who wants an easy way to install KDE from CVS. this is prolly the best way to go. i wrote it. it's still missing a lot of things. but feel free to download/use/abuse... http://odx.mine.nu/kcvscompile.sh |
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| 04:26.58 | kendrick | yo |
| 04:27.01 | elsidox | can someone help me chnag e my resolution to something higher than 800x600? |
| 04:27.13 | elsidox | change my* |
| 04:27.59 | Adjudicator | elsidox, which distro are you running? |
| 04:28.26 | elsidox | Adjudicator: debian. I was running ubuntu but i chnaged because i wanted kde. |
| 04:29.06 | kendrick | dpkg-reconfigure xserver[somethingsomething] |
| 04:30.26 | elsidox | anyone? |
| 04:31.26 | elsidox | =( |
| 04:31.29 | kendrick | dpkg-reconfigure xserver[somethingsomething] |
| 04:31.36 | elsidox | ? |
| 04:31.51 | elsidox | kendrick: what distro are you running? |
| 04:32.21 | kendrick | debian |
| 04:32.22 | kendrick | sarge |
| 04:33.15 | kendrick | for me, it would be: "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
| 04:33.17 | slackd00d | elsidox, ubuntu has kde |
| 04:33.28 | kendrick | then go in and when it asks you for what resolutions you want, choose more than just 800x600,640x480 :) |
| 04:34.23 | elsidox | kendrick: thx! it worked |
| 04:34.24 | elsidox | brb |
| 04:34.28 | kendrick | :) |
| 04:34.37 | elsidox | slackd00d: i know it does. But it kept crashing for me |
| 04:34.44 | slackd00d | oh |
| 04:34.48 | elsidox | =) |
| 04:34.50 | slackd00d | thats weird |
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| 04:42.24 | DB_Home | Where are the filters + settings for kmail stored ? |
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| 04:45.38 | ^JM^ | can anyone put these phrase in other words "and four-edge full-bleed on newer PhotoSmart models " |
| 04:47.12 | kendrick | as in, you need to describe it differently? |
| 04:47.17 | kendrick | or you don't understand what it means? :) |
| 04:47.36 | ^JM^ | i dont get the meaning |
| 04:47.53 | kendrick | it can print all the way to the edge, on all four edges, with that particular model printer |
| 04:48.10 | ^JM^ | thanks :) |
| 04:48.14 | kendrick | many printers can't print all the way to one or more edge, because of how the paper feeds |
| 04:48.17 | kendrick | no |
| 04:48.19 | kendrick | problem ;) |
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| 05:03.19 | criminy | I am about to start using Kdevelop..but under xfce4..How, if possible, can I get qt to integrate better with xfce4? |
| 05:03.35 | criminy | so they aren't so odd right next to eachother |
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| 05:28.42 | mattr | hi |
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| 05:39.43 | marcusU | There is some kind of weird conflict with Firefox and Klipper. |
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| 05:55.40 | da_bon_bon | hi all |
| 05:55.42 | da_bon_bon | anyone tried klax ? |
| 05:56.33 | mattr | i'm sure it will be on the list of livecds that i try as i hunt for a new distro |
| 05:56.55 | da_bon_bon | mattr: oh ok. |
| 05:57.07 | da_bon_bon | i just wanted to know whether it has any show stopper bugs |
| 05:57.13 | da_bon_bon | is it really worth the 300 mb dnld |
| 05:57.26 | mattr | hmmm, showstoppers |
| 05:57.29 | mattr | do you use imap with kmail? |
| 05:57.50 | da_bon_bon | i dont use kmail |
| 05:58.19 | mattr | then no, no showstoppers |
| 05:59.04 | mattr | don't get me wrong, i'm not saying that imap on kmail is bad, but there is a nasty bug with imap in kmail under certain conditions |
| 05:59.21 | mattr | very rare conditions |
| 05:59.26 | da_bon_bon | ok. |
| 05:59.34 | da_bon_bon | but whats the problem with arTs ? |
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| 06:03.16 | da_bon_bon | when is kde 3.4-final due ?? |
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| 06:12.49 | mattr | depending on the amount of release candidates we need, it could be early march, it could be late march |
| 06:13.39 | da_bon_bon | then i will wait for the real thing - not livecd betas |
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| 06:16.11 | JonasNZ | hey im having problems with kppp, i know my modem works but kppp refuses to |
| 06:16.59 | JonasNZ | i beleive its a permissions problem but i dont know what to set |
| 06:18.59 | da_bon_bon | JonasNZ: afetr selecting the right port, close kpp. then re run it. will be fine |
| 06:19.13 | JonasNZ | da_bon_bon, what do you mean port? |
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| 06:20.23 | da_bon_bon | /dev/ttyX |
| 06:20.43 | JonasNZ | i have selected it, the modem dials and all, just wont negotiate a connection |
| 06:21.14 | root | could some direct me in what I need to be looking at...what I am trying to do is just type in a keyword when the run command comes up in kde and have it go to a specific folder that I specify...any thoughts on how to accomplish this? |
| 06:21.41 | justinmaurer | sorry forgot I was in as root |
| 06:27.50 | Dhraakellian | ... |
| 06:28.11 | Dhraakellian | just changing your nick doesn't change the fact that you're logged in as root |
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| 06:29.18 | Celestar | what picture viewer do you guy recommend? |
| 06:29.34 | somekool | hi there.. |
| 06:29.58 | somekool | anyone has kopete problem with current CVS HEAD ? it ... euh.... does not load accounts or erase them.... |
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| 06:39.04 | Celestar | is "kview" still actively developed? |
| 06:42.02 | grepper | check the commits on webcvs.kde.org ? |
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| 06:45.01 | Celestar | ok I shall thanks |
| 06:45.03 | Celestar | first: food :) |
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| 06:53.41 | somekool | anyone has kopete problem with current CVS HEAD ? it ... euh.... does not load accounts or erase them.... |
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| 06:59.08 | Zenethian | Is there a way to make KDM start two instances of the X server? |
| 07:03.23 | grepper | two displays, yes |
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| 07:11.36 | woodefec | hello. Does anybody have an idea why k3b is reading the audio-cds 5-6 times longer than it should (like 32 minutes)? |
| 07:11.53 | woodefec | thats not the cause with data cds |
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| 07:16.33 | Celestar | because that's the maximum ripping speed of your drive? |
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| 07:17.59 | marcusU | woodefec: Do you get the same results if you run command-line apps? |
| 07:18.00 | woodefec | Celester: no it isnt |
| 07:18.44 | woodefec | marcusU : havent ran cl apps for ripping |
| 07:19.01 | woodefec | just for encoding - i like lame |
| 07:20.30 | woodefec | and maybe anyone could have idea why the kde system sounds dont wok at all (kde 3.3.2) |
| 07:20.55 | woodefec | i can set them up, but playing them does nothing |
| 07:21.11 | marcusU | The system sounds are just kind of funky. I had trouble getting events to trigger them for a long time. |
| 07:21.50 | woodefec | any hints? |
| 07:26.58 | marcusU | I'm not sure. k3b seems to rip at the expected speed. |
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| 07:44.06 | frerich | hi all |
| 07:44.16 | Beineri | frerich: moin |
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| 07:50.37 | sredna | Hi |
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| 09:27.07 | Linux-Addict | I really think Kde should include activeheart and akdc themes in the next release |
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| 09:31.27 | canllaith | gosh that thing makes a racket |
| 09:31.58 | lauri | heh, you sure he doesn't have the 'make a click for every keystroke' setting on in kcontrol? |
| 09:32.07 | Linux-Addict | my kcontrol crashed |
| 09:32.15 | canllaith | Nah, it's the real deal :( |
| 09:32.15 | Linux-Addict | I think my kde is broken |
| 09:33.09 | lauri | Linux-Addict: if you just felt like venting, that's fine |
| 09:33.20 | lauri | but if you'd like some help, you'll need to give a little more information |
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| 09:33.53 | sredna | Hello canllaith, lauri |
| 09:33.58 | lauri | hey hey sredna |
| 09:34.08 | lauri | I had something really urgent to tell you yesterday |
| 09:34.08 | Linux-Addict | this ahppen when I open control center and click on window decoration |
| 09:34.35 | anisX | tskk! |
| 09:34.35 | anisX | :( |
| 09:34.39 | Linux-Addict | http://pastebin.com/246151 |
| 09:34.40 | anisX | helo people |
| 09:34.41 | lauri | Linux-Addict: did you upgrade your KDE installation? |
| 09:34.46 | Linux-Addict | lauri: nope |
| 09:34.56 | Linux-Addict | it is the kde 3.3 I got from slack 10.1 setup |
| 09:35.12 | lauri | interesting |
| 09:35.12 | Linux-Addict | the last thing I did with kde is install akdcplus |
| 09:35.16 | lauri | and this just started? |
| 09:35.21 | Linux-Addict | and changed my window decoration to it |
| 09:35.23 | lauri | (and you didn't update Qt in between? |
| 09:35.35 | Linux-Addict | I did not update QT |
| 09:35.43 | lauri | and was that a binary of akdcplus? |
| 09:35.44 | sredna | Linux-Addict: Is the window deco a binary package? |
| 09:35.51 | Linux-Addict | sredna: yes, I think so |
| 09:36.05 | Linux-Addict | sredna: u can look it up at kde-look.org |
| 09:36.08 | sredna | Linux-Addict: Might be a binary incompatibility then |
| 09:36.09 | Linux-Addict | called akdcplus |
| 09:36.12 | lauri | well, looks like it's BIC with your Qt |
| 09:36.25 | Linux-Addict | lauri: what can I do now? |
| 09:36.43 | lauri | uninstall it (you can't use it - you can if you get hold of sources and compile it yourself though) |
| 09:36.47 | sredna | Don't use that window decoration |
| 09:36.57 | Linux-Addict | brb |
| 09:37.24 | lauri | and I do like the orange shade pastebin chose for that backtrace |
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| 09:38.17 | Linux-Addict | yea, it worked back |
| 09:38.26 | Linux-Addict | but I really like that win dow decoration |
| 09:38.47 | lauri | you should have no trouble compiling it, window decorations are pretty tiny |
| 09:39.57 | lauri | heh, I totally can't find it on kde-look |
| 09:40.27 | Linux-Addict | lauri: search for akdc |
| 09:40.47 | lauri | ahh, there it is |
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| 09:42.10 | lauri | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=12330 there's the original, with sources |
| 09:42.59 | lauri | so i paste the wrong one, but there's a link there to berlios anyway |
| 09:43.11 | lauri | which is down |
| 09:43.25 | Linux-Addict | yea |
| 09:43.27 | Linux-Addict | I saw that |
| 09:43.28 | lauri | I'm getting a "the cosmic deities do not wish you to have this window deco" feeling here :) |
| 09:43.33 | Linux-Addict | bur berlios is down |
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| 09:45.17 | lauri | you might try writing the author |
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| 09:54.24 | Linux-Addict | lauri: it is not the bin I download is bad |
| 09:54.38 | Linux-Addict | the beta 3 crashes kcontrol |
| 09:54.47 | Linux-Addict | doesn't matter if I compile it yself |
| 09:54.53 | Linux-Addict | or does it? |
| 09:55.33 | lauri | I don't know |
| 09:55.42 | lauri | that could be |
| 09:56.30 | Linux-Addict | lauri: I heard that it works great with the default settings |
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| 09:56.40 | Linux-Addict | but I allready modified the default settings. |
| 09:56.52 | Linux-Addict | when removing the package, it does not remove the config |
| 09:56.59 | Linux-Addict | where can I find the config ? |
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| 09:57.43 | tim_h | hallo all |
| 09:58.55 | tim_h | how can I print _only_ a selection of a document? I cant find an option in kdeprint. |
| 10:00.52 | sredna | tim_h: Kdeprinter offers you a page selection |
| 10:01.35 | sredna | tim_h: To print only text selected in an application window, it must be implemented on application level (for example kate provides that option) |
| 10:01.51 | Linux-Addict | sredna: where is the config for the window decorations? |
| 10:02.14 | sredna | Linux-Addict: Somewhere in ~/.kde/share/config |
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| 10:03.17 | sredna | Linux-Addict: Shared config is in kwinrc, while decoratinos might add their own rc file as well |
| 10:05.19 | Linux-Addict | yea |
| 10:05.23 | Linux-Addict | I found it allready |
| 10:05.27 | Linux-Addict | it is working fine now |
| 10:05.40 | Linux-Addict | if I modify certain settings, it crashes |
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| 10:12.45 | lauri | aseigo: you around (or frerich, or anyone who developers kicker applets, or canllaith) |
| 10:18.09 | chakie | hm, i just read planetkde.org, and Jonathan Riddell wrote that www.kde.org is supposed to have some kind of css for text shadows? i can't see it with konqueror 3.3.2, or am i just blind? |
| 10:18.47 | Beineri | chakie: konqueror 3.3.2 doesn't support it yet, you need KDE 3.4 (RC) |
| 10:19.20 | chakie | Beineri: ok, thanks. i was interested in trying out that effect for my own site :) |
| 10:19.28 | Beineri | chakie: use firefox |
| 10:19.58 | chakie | Beineri: no, i use konqueror |
| 10:20.08 | chakie | don't even have it installed |
| 10:20.15 | Beineri | mhm, Firefox doesn't show the effect I see in Konqueror :-) |
| 10:21.20 | chakie | nor does opera. and i bet that ie doesn't do anything even close to it |
| 10:22.52 | [Jango] | it may seem cool, but if 99% of your viewers aren't going to see the effect, is there much point using it>? |
| 10:23.05 | chakie | yeah, apparently |
| 10:23.30 | lauri | yes, if it degrades gracefully and doesn't look bad *without* it |
| 10:23.38 | sredna | http://83.73.136.202:8002/textshadow.png <- chakie |
| 10:24.06 | lauri | if it's an enhancement only, it's worth it (and in this specific case, I would think the stats for www.kde.org are very skewed towards browsers that do display it |
| 10:24.44 | sredna | It's used in the hew stylesheets for help etc too, it looks very nice :) |
| 10:24.51 | chakie | looks nice, but i agree with jonathan that it can be annoying if overused |
| 10:25.05 | lauri | personally I think the shadow should be offset to the lower left (same lightsource as the icons) |
| 10:25.06 | sredna | In those cases it's allmost guaranteed to be supported of course |
| 10:25.22 | lauri | one heading per page, and consistently on every page, is not overuse |
| 10:25.38 | chakie | lauri: no, it's not |
| 10:26.02 | Beineri | sredna: it looks different here, "stronger" |
| 10:26.24 | chakie | css has so much fun stuff, a shame that much of it can't be used |
| 10:26.30 | sredna | Beineri: My khtml is a bit old (> 1 week) |
| 10:26.56 | Beineri | sredna: or it does depend on font (size) |
| 10:27.02 | sredna | Could be |
| 10:27.03 | lauri | http://people.fruitsalad.org/lauri/stuff/man.png |
| 10:27.25 | Beineri | the inner areas of "e" are almost white here |
| 10:27.46 | Linux-Addict | now I can safely kde is alot better than xp |
| 10:27.52 | Linux-Addict | safely say |
| 10:28.02 | chakie | lauri: sexy :) |
| 10:28.30 | Beineri | lauri: your font looks to thin imo |
| 10:28.32 | lauri | if I could just make the damn space in the first line of hte man output go away |
| 10:28.38 | lauri | Beineri: I have good eyes :) |
| 10:28.44 | Beineri | too |
| 10:29.01 | lauri | actually, there's a space too few there (see it?) not one too many |
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| 10:29.53 | lauri | i think not a showstopper, but if anyone is bored and wants to fix that for me, I couldn't |
| 10:30.03 | tim_h | sredna: Thank you, that it explains it veray well! |
| 10:30.15 | sredna | tim_h: Ty :) |
| 10:31.28 | sredna | lauri: You mean the title? |
| 10:31.48 | lauri | no, the Section title |
| 10:32.08 | lauri | it jams up the number against the text |
| 10:32.55 | sredna | Ah, right, there is a little bug :) |
| 10:33.32 | lauri | heh, yeah, it's an itty bitty one if I have to point it out to people |
| 10:33.34 | lauri | but it annoys me |
| 10:33.49 | sredna | The section is repeated too, in parens behind the section title |
| 10:34.08 | lauri | yup (so if I could chop the number off the front would do) |
| 10:34.37 | lauri | Worf: that's a WORKSFORME here |
| 10:34.48 | lauri | I've never seen it (and I use knode almost constantly) |
| 10:34.57 | lauri | in and out of kontact |
| 10:35.03 | Worf | lauri: sigh |
| 10:35.19 | lauri | looks like a SuSE specific bug indeed, has it been reported to SuSE? |
| 10:35.36 | Worf | lauri: i suffer it for > 1 Year... and now suse users seem to have it too... |
| 10:36.31 | lauri | that would be insanely annoying |
| 10:36.47 | Worf | you tell me... |
| 10:37.28 | lauri | on the other hand, if a developer can't reproduce it, it's very difficult for them to debug or fix |
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| 10:38.40 | Worf | i know... i did try to track down myself, but it failed |
| 10:38.41 | lauri | I assume you have checked the obvious things (does it happen with a new user with a clean setup? what about different nntp servers (you can use news.gmane.org for testing a known-good nntp server)? turn off expiry so it exits quicker? |
| 10:39.44 | Worf | yeah... eaven happens when you have no newsserver configured iirc |
| 10:39.44 | lauri | so if you make a new user, run knode, open the settings dialog, do nothing, close it, close the app - it still does not exit correctly? |
| 10:39.53 | Worf | iirc yes... let me try again... |
| 10:40.23 | lauri | put that in the bug report (so it's clear it's not configuration related (when a bug is very hard to reproduce, or only for a few people, it's reasonable to assume that it is probably local configuration related, so if it's not, and you can demonstrate that, it's a help to know) |
| 10:41.23 | Worf | yep, new user and closing doing nothing, still not proper quit |
| 10:41.46 | rich_B_ | lol@lisper:) |
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| 10:42.49 | bkuettner | hi |
| 10:44.40 | lauri | put that in a comment then (and don't give up hope - knode has been unmaintained for a while, but has a new maintainer now) |
| 10:44.40 | Worf | k |
| 10:45.51 | bkuettner | I've got a question about the kmenue buttons for lock screen and log out. |
| 10:46.15 | bkuettner | Is it possible to remove them from the kmenue? |
| 10:46.19 | lauri | yes |
| 10:46.31 | bkuettner | how can I do this |
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| 10:47.23 | lauri | or maybe not, I thought they were in the panels -> menu entry |
| 10:47.38 | bkuettner | kmenuedit didn't work for this, because it was only possible to remove programs not actions |
| 10:48.18 | lauri | apt ug |
| 10:48.19 | apt | extra, extra, read all about it, ug is http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng |
| 10:48.27 | markey | re |
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| 10:52.03 | lauri | I'm sure you can, but I can't find out where (I thought it might be mentioned in the kiosk settings) |
| 10:53.08 | lauri | help:/khelpcenter/userguide/action-restrictions.html |
| 10:53.16 | Beineri | then you lose all possibility to lock and logout :-) |
| 10:53.29 | lauri | yeah, that turns it off, not just hiding it |
| 10:53.45 | Beineri | (except xlock and killing X-Server maybe) |
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| 10:54.05 | lauri | http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng/action-restrictions.html (online version of that help url) |
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| 10:54.41 | sycofly | im back .. hehe |
| 10:55.23 | bkuettner | taht's right. the user should not be able to log out. |
| 10:55.35 | lauri | then, that's what you're after, exactly |
| 10:56.07 | bkuettner | right now, i'm reading in the manual |
| 10:57.04 | Beineri | canllaith: hi |
| 10:57.49 | canllaith | Hey there Beineri :) |
| 10:58.31 | canllaith | mmm |
| 10:58.37 | canllaith | Fri Feb 25 10:58:37 UTC 2005 |
| 10:58.49 | Beineri | still Thursday? |
| 10:58.49 | canllaith | darn, forgot system time was utc :P |
| 10:58.56 | canllaith | For 2 more minutes |
| 10:58.59 | canllaith | it is friday |
| 10:59.04 | canllaith | almost saturday |
| 10:59.11 | canllaith | saturday in one minute now :) |
| 10:59.19 | Beineri | ah, sure. It's Friday here too :-) |
| 10:59.23 | canllaith | :P |
| 10:59.34 | canllaith | How are you? |
| 10:59.34 | sredna | Htp claims auckland 00:03 |
| 10:59.36 | anisX | kakak busuk..go and sleep |
| 10:59.39 | sredna | Ntp |
| 10:59.44 | canllaith | anisX: am in bath, not busuk at all ;) |
| 10:59.53 | canllaith | heh |
| 10:59.55 | anisX | canllaith: u still busuk! |
| 11:00.05 | anisX | ar okey sista..want watch a movie |
| 11:00.18 | canllaith | I'm using the KDE built in NTP and it claims it just rolled over to 0000 hours |
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| 11:01.06 | sredna | Hm, maybe the ntp servers disagree |
| 11:01.34 | Beineri | both date and dow looks ugly with digital clock |
| 11:01.42 | canllaith | Who knows :) |
| 11:01.44 | canllaith | Yep I agree |
| 11:02.45 | canllaith | I just give up. Whenever someone asks me the time or date I have to go frantically searching for kontact or my gkrellm on many workspaces |
| 11:02.54 | canllaith | Now I just say I don't know, and put up with the strange looks :P |
| 11:05.27 | lauri | pfft, konvi doesn't know /system |
| 11:05.35 | lauri | or are you back on xchat |
| 11:05.38 | anisX | canllaith: help me! |
| 11:06.01 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.04 | lauri | in which case, you can type /system date or /exec date (or whatever variant xchat groks) and it'll tell you |
| 11:06.09 | sredna | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.11 | lauri | one spits it to the channel though, and one just echos it |
| 11:06.13 | lauri | echoes |
| 11:06.41 | sredna | Here, I use /exec -out to display the output of exec |
| 11:06.56 | lauri | me too |
| 11:06.57 | canllaith | yeah, hence disabling my kicker clock |
| 11:06.58 | canllaith | :$ |
| 11:07.00 | lauri | else I'd never know the time |
| 11:07.12 | canllaith | Who needs it when IRC is always there anyway?;) |
| 11:07.20 | lauri | and I can tell if it's weekday or not, because my children aren't home telling me to turn the music down |
| 11:07.30 | canllaith | heh |
| 11:07.30 | lauri | and I don't really care about the date |
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| 11:07.38 | sredna | Lol |
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| 11:08.56 | canllaith | ? |
| 11:09.16 | Beineri | canllaith: for my time :-) |
| 11:09.32 | Beineri | canllaith: you know, you just have to shift it 12 hours :-) |
| 11:09.38 | canllaith | yes:P |
| 11:10.33 | canllaith | so convenient to know if it is a good time to ring germany without needing to go to timeanddate.com |
| 11:10.47 | canllaith | but then daylight savings will ruin it :( |
| 11:12.34 | bkuettner | now i've got a solution |
| 11:12.47 | bkuettner | just a workaround but it's ok |
| 11:13.06 | bkuettner | i've just created another menu without the buttons |
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| 11:17.20 | alexis | hi |
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| 11:28.36 | chew | what is the best external "kicker" for kde? |
| 11:28.50 | Worf | can one recommend a slideshow app? |
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| 11:38.17 | sredna | Worf: Image viewers supporting kipi has slideshows with transitions |
| 11:38.41 | sredna | Worf: Showimg, digikam, kimdaba for example |
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| 12:17.21 | sredna | Pow ! |
| 12:17.30 | sredna | Designer doesn't like klistview :( |
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| 12:23.53 | sredna | POW! - it doesn't like KURLRequester either |
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| 14:10.51 | inc|freaky | is there any good ftp client for kde? |
| 14:10.54 | inc|freaky | or, which is the best? |
| 14:11.29 | lauri | konqueror |
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| 14:19.28 | herodes | hi... |
| 14:20.01 | herodes | which package is for set kde in spanins? kde-118-es could be? |
| 14:20.34 | PhilRod | kde-i18n-es |
| 14:20.59 | herodes | ok |
| 14:21.44 | herodes | thx u |
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| 14:31.08 | bluesceada | which one is more featureful kplayer or kmplayer |
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| 14:34.54 | PhilRod | presumably kmplayer if it's an mplayer frontend, but I don't really know - try both players and see which one fits your needs |
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| 14:35.32 | bluesceada | hmh ok kplayer fits my needs so far, but maybe kmplayer got features i dont know about .. |
| 14:35.37 | bluesceada | ..and so cant miss |
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| 14:38.50 | PhilRod | heh, I guess :-) |
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| 14:44.04 | gnumdk | Is there a dbus bindings for qt3? |
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| 14:50.48 | Beineri | gnumdk: mhm? "D-BUS includes GLib, Qt, Python and .NET APIs to the D-BUS system" to quote from dbus homepage |
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| 14:51.59 | Beineri | gnumdk: tried --enable-qt? |
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| 14:58.31 | gnumdk | Beineri: Thanx ;) i'm so stupid :) |
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| 15:02.14 | anhi | Hi there. Whenever i tell firefox to open a link (from another app) a new tab opens instantly in an open session, but for approx. half a minute i have the launching item (the sandclock + the app name) in my taskbar + a busy-cursor with the firefox symbol. (using debian/sid, kde 3.3.2) |
| 15:04.05 | lauri | kcontrol -> appearance and themes -> launch feedback and change the timeout |
| 15:04.14 | lauri | or ignore it |
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| 15:06.07 | herodes | once i download kde-118n-es...how can i set kde in spanish??. |
| 15:06.15 | herodes | is is still in english |
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| 15:06.45 | anhi | lauri: thanks, works like a charm now |
| 15:07.41 | dobwan | when I logout and log back in my desktop Icons are rearranged, How do I save the layout? (sorry for what should be an easy question but I can't find the answer, Duane) |
| 15:07.42 | lauri | herodes: once it's installed, kcontrol -> regional & accessibility -> country/region & Language |
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| 15:08.34 | herodes | oks |
| 15:08.53 | lauri | dobwan: are they always rearranged back to the same place? it could be that position was saved in a session |
| 15:08.59 | lauri | in which case, just save a new one |
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| 15:18.45 | woodefec | hey, is it common that k3b crashes when adding wav files to an audio-cd compilation? |
| 15:19.00 | woodefec | i tried ver 0.11.12 and 0.11.20 |
| 15:19.12 | woodefec | im workin with suse linux 9.1 |
| 15:19.37 | StarScreem | woodefec: yeh |
| 15:19.38 | woodefec | when i add only a few its allright, but at some point it crashes |
| 15:19.48 | StarScreem | woodefec: i'm on slackware and it does it too |
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| 15:19.56 | woodefec | StarScreem : no workaround? |
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| 15:20.11 | woodefec | StarScreem : good to know im not the only one |
| 15:20.17 | StarScreem | woodefec: add them one at a time...or use oggs :) not sure why it does it so i couldn't say |
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| 15:20.43 | woodefec | when i add one by one - it take some time - they are 66 |
| 15:20.43 | StarScreem | woodefec: file a bug report |
| 15:20.49 | StarScreem | w |
| 15:21.03 | StarScreem | woodefec: or don't use k3b, just do it with cdrecord and stuff |
| 15:21.18 | StarScreem | or convert them all to .wav with the cli |
| 15:21.22 | StarScreem | and then use k3b |
| 15:21.25 | woodefec | yeah, if i only was able to use cdrecord - lotta options |
| 15:21.41 | woodefec | but they are .wav |
| 15:21.41 | StarScreem | woodefec: thats what the man pages are for |
| 15:21.53 | StarScreem | woodefec: hmm k3b is fine for me with .wav files |
| 15:22.14 | woodefec | so what does it crash on @ yer system? |
| 15:22.21 | woodefec | at oggs? |
| 15:22.30 | StarScreem | woodefec: nah, only when i add .mp3 files |
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| 15:22.38 | StarScreem | its fine for .ogg and .wav files |
| 15:22.44 | woodefec | damn |
| 15:22.45 | StarScreem | even flac files work fine |
| 15:22.48 | lauri | there's definitely been a bug report of this |
| 15:23.02 | woodefec | and i just wanted to nuke down the windows partition |
| 15:23.10 | mobtek | hmm I used k3b for mp3s the other day, worked great |
| 15:23.22 | StarScreem | woodefec: what version are you using? |
| 15:23.35 | woodefec | well, first i tired 0.11.20 |
| 15:23.41 | woodefec | than gone down to 0.11.12 |
| 15:23.48 | StarScreem | heh why? |
| 15:24.03 | woodefec | to see if it maybe does it better |
| 15:24.07 | woodefec | :) |
| 15:24.14 | woodefec | now @ 0.11.20 |
| 15:24.40 | lauri | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95912 |
| 15:24.45 | lauri | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=93281 |
| 15:24.59 | woodefec | theres sthing else: it tells me to use K3bsetup and i dont know where to start this k3bsetup |
| 15:25.02 | lauri | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=78981 |
| 15:25.10 | dobwan | lauri, how do I do that? I just looked around and can't find it, thanks |
| 15:25.20 | StarScreem | woodefec: settings :) |
| 15:25.31 | StarScreem | right next to tools and before Help |
| 15:25.42 | lauri | is it any of those? |
| 15:26.08 | woodefec | oh no! i have 0.11.12 still - and the K3bsetup isnt in settings! |
| 15:26.20 | StarScreem | woodefec: well upgrade then |
| 15:26.43 | lippel | lauri: what are the rules regarding docs in bugfix releases? (3.4.1) |
| 15:26.45 | woodefec | mmmkay |
| 15:26.46 | lauri | dobwan: kcontrol -> kde components -> session manager (if you choose 'restore previous session' it should be asking you when you log out, if it should save a session) |
| 15:27.01 | lippel | lauri: can we get the akregator handbook into 3.4.1? |
| 15:27.18 | lauri | dobwan: if you set 'restore manually saved session' you get an entry in the K menu to 'save session' and that'll be what gets restored (and it won't ask you when you log out) |
| 15:27.22 | lauri | lippel: is there one written? |
| 15:27.40 | lippel | lauri: not yet, i plan the structure right now |
| 15:27.52 | lauri | well, then it depends how fast you can write :) |
| 15:27.54 | StarScreem | woodefec: if you have that many songs just use cdrecord man |
| 15:27.59 | lippel | lauri: deadline? |
| 15:28.00 | StarScreem | its quicker |
| 15:28.35 | StarScreem | woodefec: i'm pretty sure you can record cd's from inside amarok or juk too |
| 15:28.36 | lauri | there isn't one, specifically |
| 15:28.47 | woodefec | StarScreem : im too newb to use cdrecord just like that |
| 15:28.54 | fred87 | in juk: "Add Playlist to k3b project" |
| 15:28.56 | woodefec | i dont understand this program |
| 15:29.08 | lippel | lauri: so when should it be finished? |
| 15:29.24 | lauri | well, at *least* two weeks before 3.4.1, and then we look at each one as it comes up |
| 15:29.46 | lauri | there's no specific deadline, because it is a freeze, and anything going in needs explicit approval |
| 15:29.49 | woodefec | fred87 : i dont use juk, but mayb i have it installed |
| 15:30.01 | StarScreem | woodefec: what do you mean too newb? http://users.netwit.net.au/~pursang/music.html |
| 15:30.01 | lauri | (I can't imagine any objection to an akregator handbook, but you never know) |
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| 15:30.29 | StarScreem | woodefec: all you have to do is read |
| 15:31.25 | woodefec | great! in 0.11.20 when the dialog about cdrdao comes - there's a button to start k3bsetup2 |
| 15:31.32 | woodefec | yuppiii |
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| 15:31.44 | woodefec | but that wont solve the wav adding anyway |
| 15:32.09 | woodefec | should i use the burning group? |
| 15:32.15 | woodefec | defaultly its off |
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| 15:34.22 | meister | hi |
| 15:34.56 | meister | does somebody know when the today evening party will finish at fosdem ? |
| 15:35.34 | woodefec | it keeps on crashing |
| 15:35.56 | woodefec | ok thx for help - now i have one issue solved |
| 15:36.10 | woodefec | meister : i dont know |
| 15:36.22 | woodefec | cya |
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| 15:37.24 | Beineri | meister: open end? why do you ask here? |
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| 15:38.27 | meister | Beineri: i found some informations about the party on a kde wiki |
| 15:38.44 | meister | -> http://www.kde.me.uk/index.php?page=fosdem-2005 |
| 15:38.55 | dobwan | lauri, I must not be following you're instructions because I don't see any of that |
| 15:39.16 | Beineri | meister: better ask in #kde-fosdem |
| 15:39.25 | lauri | dobwan: what version of KDE is this? |
| 15:39.41 | dobwan | lauri, 3.3 on Suse 9.2 Pro |
| 15:40.27 | lauri | I'm pretty sure that all this session management stuff was in 3.3 |
| 15:40.42 | lauri | in kcontrol - pick the 'search' tab on the left, and type 'session' and see what you find |
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| 15:42.13 | Beineri | lauri: kcontrol search doesn't work "well" :-| |
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| 15:43.43 | lauri | Beineri: heh, no, but I am quite sure the session manager panel has keywords |
| 15:43.49 | dobwan | lauri, and everyone else sorry, I should have been more clear, I don't see anything about saving the session when I logout, currently checked is "restore previous session" |
| 15:43.57 | ashus_ | hi. anyone an idea why the .Xdefaults settings for Xterm* ar not workung when i start kde? |
| 15:44.08 | lauri | that and the mouse one (I always have to look up where the mouse stuff is) |
| 15:44.20 | lauri | dobwan: ok... maybe you have to enable the 'show shutdown options' part |
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| 15:45.19 | dobwan | lauri, "offer shutdown options" is checked. |
| 15:45.41 | ashus_ | or does anyone know how to set default values for XTerm*background,XTerm*foreground within kde? |
| 15:46.18 | lauri | same way you set them ever, in .Xdefaults |
| 15:46.44 | ashus_ | hhm wonder why it doesnt work then (fluxbox does..)+ |
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| 15:46.52 | lauri | heh, sorry, didn't see the first half of the question |
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| 15:47.12 | lauri | try uncheck the 'apply colours to non-kde applications' in kcontrol's colours module |
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| 15:47.30 | ashus_ | ahh ok, will check this |
| 15:48.00 | lauri | or, take the lazy way out, find the xterm.desktop file, and change the exec tab to set the colours |
| 15:48.44 | ashus_ | yeah, the first hint did it. thx |
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| 15:52.38 | woodefec | hey |
| 15:53.10 | woodefec | whats juk good for?? i got a directory with WAVs but they do not appear as i add htemn to juk |
| 15:53.44 | woodefec | there is just nothing |
| 15:53.47 | alexis | amarok [++] |
| 15:54.18 | woodefec | alexis: i only need yuk because of "add playlist to k3b project" |
| 15:54.20 | woodefec | damn |
| 15:54.36 | woodefec | i cant use cdrecord - no dev=0,0,0 |
| 15:54.38 | alexis | but amarok can burn too |
| 15:54.47 | woodefec | burn wavs? |
| 15:54.51 | woodefec | to audiocd? |
| 15:54.54 | alexis | yes |
| 15:55.00 | alexis | right click in the playlist |
| 15:55.47 | woodefec | God damn that - im cruising through dosens of apps today - lost several hours, nbbecause that k3b buggs around - and now u tell me i need amarok |
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| 15:56.32 | woodefec | aaaargh |
| 15:57.11 | alexis | :) |
| 15:57.53 | woodefec | yeayea i know : linux have a lot of fun :P |
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| 15:58.52 | fuat | is anyone using successfully pinenetry-qt for kmail? |
| 15:59.26 | alexis | fuat: thank you, you remind me that I have to build kmail :) |
| 16:00.00 | fuat | alexis: no problem ;-) but remember not to use pinentry-qt it makes a lot of trouble, I solved it by using pinentry-gtk |
| 16:00.17 | alexis | :) |
| 16:00.28 | woodefec | cdrecord: No such device or address. Cannot open '/dev/pg0'. Cannot open SCSI driver. - allthough my cdrw is on bus 0,0,0 |
| 16:00.39 | mart_k | fuat: yes, it works here. |
| 16:00.51 | fuat | mart_k: pinentry-qt ? |
| 16:00.58 | woodefec | DLing amarok - the final try of today |
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| 16:01.12 | alexis | what is pinentry ? |
| 16:01.29 | fuat | alexis: anytime you need to enter a passphrase this little dialog comes up |
| 16:01.30 | mart_k | fuat: yes, but that part workes out-of-the-box, as far as I can remember. |
| 16:01.31 | woodefec | than i go to nero (dont beat me, i need to have stuff burned and bring to my boss!) |
| 16:01.45 | fuat | mart_k: you mean kmail and gpg? |
| 16:02.43 | mart_k | fuat: No, I had some troubbles with gpg-agent, but pinentry-qt worked fine. |
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| 16:03.39 | mart_k | fuat: Does is not show up, or gives it an error message? |
| 16:03.44 | fuat | mart_k: gpg-agent calles pinentry. I had a lot of trouble and i was asking questions here for two days. after I changed to pinentry-gtk it even stoped |
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| 16:04.10 | fuat | mart_k: freezing the gui. no everything is fine know. (except imap ;-) |
| 16:04.47 | fuat | mart_k: I've seen some mail from mailing lists where people complained about the same problem, so I was going to share this here. |
| 16:05.49 | Cerulean | Screen Resize and Rotate application keeps starting on KDE startup - I do nothing but kill it each time it opens. How can I stop it from starting up? |
| 16:06.15 | Cerulean | And my icons positions on my desktop are not remembered |
| 16:06.27 | mart_k | fuat: Ok. |
| 16:06.35 | Cerulean | Other than that, application settings and programs open are remembered when I start a new session |
| 16:06.47 | woodefec | Cerulean : try to turn off that app and logout |
| 16:06.54 | woodefec | and than log in back |
| 16:06.57 | Cerulean | woodefec: Done it. A few times |
| 16:07.12 | woodefec | what kde ver? |
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| 16:08.02 | Cerulean | woodefec: 3.4-beta2 |
| 16:10.10 | sredna | http://83.73.136.202:8002/rrename.png <- my first ruby app is basically working :-) |
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| 16:10.59 | sredna | That was easy, I read my first pages of the ruby book last night |
| 16:11.38 | woodefec | oh well, maybe the guys will fix that - im on 3.3.2-2x |
| 16:11.47 | woodefec | cya |
| 16:14.21 | fuat | mart_k: do you work with kmail and imap? |
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| 16:15.02 | mart_k | fuat: yes. |
| 16:15.06 | Linux-Addict | can I set kmail to my system tray? |
| 16:16.01 | fuat | mart_k: I do get " could not start process for newimaps" failure anytime I try to access the imap folder, which is on a remote host |
| 16:16.04 | sredna | Linux-Addict: In the configure dialog |
| 16:16.47 | lauri | oh, cute |
| 16:17.44 | mart_k | fuat: Does it works when you enter "newimaps://username@server" in konqueror? |
| 16:17.55 | Linux-Addict | how do u configure the system tray? |
| 16:17.58 | fuat | mart_k: mom |
| 16:18.13 | Linux-Addict | when I mouse over the system tray, I see a deep |
| 16:18.19 | Linux-Addict | dunno what u call it in english |
| 16:18.25 | RinkyDinks_RJ | eh, think their's a little bug in aggregator |
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| 16:18.59 | fuat | mart_k: no it does not work it says protocoll not supported. How can I add it? is it a separate package? |
| 16:19.18 | RinkyDinks_RJ | like, whenever i refresh a feed, the top article that was their previously is duped |
| 16:19.23 | Linux-Addict | http://dc5146d009.adsl.wanadoo.nl/snapshot9.png |
| 16:19.41 | mart_k | fuat: If you remove the "new" (thus: imaps://username@server), does that work? |
| 16:20.09 | Linux-Addict | do u see what happen when I mouse over the system tray? |
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| 16:20.42 | fuat | mart_k: it works with imaps://user@server |
| 16:21.15 | mart_k | fuat: Which version of kdepim do you have, and have you installed the whole package at once? |
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| 16:22.19 | fuat | mart_k: I think so I'm with debian-sarge. don't know which version of kdepim but kmail is version 1.7.1 and kde 3.3.2 |
| 16:22.25 | Linux-Addict | any idea? |
| 16:24.28 | mart_k | fuat: Do you have the same version of kdepim and kdepim-kio-plugins (I think you can check that with your package manager)? |
| 16:25.05 | fuat | mart_k: you suppose there is a missmatch of kio-plugins and the pim? |
| 16:25.48 | mart_k | fuat: At some point, the kioslave newimaps was replaces by imaps. |
| 16:26.19 | mart_k | fuat: KMail uses the old name, but only the new one (or one that is very old) exist. |
| 16:26.22 | fuat | and newimaps is not known for the old kioslave |
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| 16:29.23 | fuat | mart_k: hehe, it seems that kdepim is not installed at all. |
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| 16:30.38 | mart_k | fuat: But you have installed kmail (at least particullary). |
| 16:31.33 | fuat | mart_k: well, I did install it, but I also removed some packages like kandy and kalarm, packages which I would never use. I suppose the package-manager did remove regards to the dependencies all these files |
| 16:33.03 | mart_k | fuat: Maybe is a reinstall of kdepim and the kdepim-kio-plugins enough to get imaps working again. |
| 16:33.22 | fuat | mart_k: it works now, it was the mission plugins |
| 16:33.28 | fuat | mart_k: thank you so far |
| 16:33.46 | mart_k | fuat: np |
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| 16:46.06 | jadrian | is there going to be a kde 3.3.3? |
| 16:47.04 | PieD | why would there be a KDE 3.3.3 ? |
| 16:47.06 | lauri | no, 3.4 is almost ready |
| 16:47.06 | alexissoft | i think not |
| 16:47.12 | alexissoft | i think no |
| 16:47.56 | PieD | it is, I think, useless and would be wasting time ! |
| 16:48.06 | jadrian | PieD: well there were many security issues after 3.3.2... |
| 16:49.32 | PieD | jadrian: and ? KDE 3.4 is ready ! |
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| 16:50.16 | jadrian | I'm not going to install 3.4.0 in my "production" computer |
| 16:51.38 | jadrian | I skip just upgrade that one on either x.x.1 or x.x.2, depending on my expiriences with it in other computers |
| 16:51.54 | jadrian | s/expiriences/experiences |
| 16:54.15 | jadrian | btw 3.4 is not really ready, the predicted date is 16 March + at least 7 days packaging, not counting delays, so it is about a month away... |
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| 16:55.59 | Beineri | jadrian: hu? |
| 16:57.14 | Beineri | jadrian: You don't understand the term "release date"? |
| 16:57.59 | lauri | the packaging is done *before* the release date |
| 16:58.24 | lauri | 3.4 was branched today, and unless there are showstopper bugs, will be ready as planned |
| 17:00.32 | dobwan | lauri, I'm back (I know, oh no) the problem I'm having with my icon positions seems to be related to a bug, I searched kde.org for IconPositions and there is a fix on the KDE 3 4 0 release branch. |
| 17:00.34 | Beineri | jadrian: and what unfixed security issues are you FUDding about? |
| 17:00.59 | lauri | dobwan: ok then, you just have to wait a few more days :) |
| 17:01.23 | lauri | Beineri: none that i know of that didn't have patches ship to the packagers |
| 17:02.06 | dobwan | lauri, ;-) actually I'll wait until Suse rolls it into their update, bla, bla, bla. none the less the problem will be solved, thanks |
| 17:02.40 | lauri | well, that will probably be fairly smartly when it's released, I don't think you will have to wait long |
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| 17:06.04 | Frost^ | I got a tiny question, in kde 3.4b2, there's a google bar in konqueror. that bar does not save the queries I use it with. is there a way to make it save them? |
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| 17:06.48 | guido_wrk | related question: How can I get rid of that Google bar? |
| 17:07.00 | lauri | settings -> configure extensions |
| 17:07.37 | lauri | Frost^: don't know, try right click on it (or just remove it and use gg: your search (and the usual location bar history will keep your searches) |
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| 17:09.01 | guido_wrk | I cannot find a menu entry settings->configure extensions in Konqueror |
| 17:09.15 | Frost^ | me neither |
| 17:09.36 | lauri | heh, sorry, that's 3.4 |
| 17:09.42 | lauri | maybe it's under 'tools' in 3.3 |
| 17:09.46 | lauri | I don't remember, sorry |
| 17:10.14 | Frost^ | lauri, plugin is not configureable |
| 17:10.24 | Frost^ | but thanks for the gg: tip, maybe I'll use it |
| 17:10.25 | lauri | no, but you can uncheck it to make it go away |
| 17:10.26 | Frost^ | thanks |
| 17:10.37 | lauri | Frost^: there's dozens of them |
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| 17:10.50 | Frost^ | dozens of what? |
| 17:10.51 | Darien | hi all |
| 17:10.55 | lauri | gg for google, ggi: for google image search, ggl: for google 'i feel lucky' |
| 17:11.16 | Frost^ | oh :)( |
| 17:11.18 | Frost^ | thanks |
| 17:11.21 | lauri | take a look in konqueror's settings dialog, they're called 'web shortcuts' (I like 'imdb:some movie') |
| 17:11.26 | Darien | I was at a friend's place and he had an MP3 player that looked even better than itunes, and he said 'it might become the default MP3 player for KDE' |
| 17:11.29 | lauri | or amg:some-band |
| 17:11.33 | Darien | anyone know what it might be? |
| 17:11.38 | Frost^ | lauri, gotcha |
| 17:11.41 | Frost^ | thanks a bunch |
| 17:11.44 | lauri | Darien: maybe amarok, and no it won't be |
| 17:11.47 | Cerulean | Darien: amaroK? |
| 17:11.54 | Darien | I think that's the one, let me check |
| 17:12.21 | Darien | yep, that's the one, thanks |
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| 17:14.19 | Worf | can one help me with dcop? if i want to remotely log in at some box and talk to some app with dcop, what do i need to do? set some $VAR? |
| 17:15.59 | elcuco | login as the same user as the app...? |
| 17:16.07 | Worf | that i did do |
| 17:16.35 | Worf | i get "ERROR: Couldn't attach to DCOP server!" |
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| 17:20.36 | _allanon | Worf: is the dcop server running then? |
| 17:21.15 | Worf | _allanon: yup... hmm - maybe i shall grep the $VARS for it's pid to find out |
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| 17:27.27 | lippel | Worf: grep ps for "dcopserver" |
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| 17:34.00 | Worf | lippel: ... didn't help me any further... but i suppose the .DCOP* files in the home dir are responsible for the communication with the dcop server |
| 17:36.32 | lippel | Worf: so dcopserver is running? |
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| 17:37.44 | Worf | lippel: yep... |
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| 17:47.48 | eille-la | hi |
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| 17:51.18 | eille-la | I never tried to install kde in /usr/local (always been in /opt/kde3.x). Is konstruct able to install kde in /usr/local and not download/install apps/libs that kde needs that are already there? |
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| 17:53.51 | Tjozan | dunno |
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| 17:56.15 | im_ka | hi |
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| 17:59.32 | Beineri | eille-la: prefix is configurable and you can (manually) change dependencies |
| 17:59.34 | im_ka | is it just me or is kde-look down? |
| 17:59.39 | lonewolff | hi there, is it possible to manually remap the keyboard in kde? |
| 18:00.05 | Beineri | im_ka: kde-look too? |
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| 18:00.18 | im_ka | Beineri: what else? |
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| 18:00.45 | Beineri | im_ka: dot/wiki |
| 18:00.53 | im_ka | hmm |
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| 18:01.09 | lobezno | hi |
| 18:01.13 | Beineri | seems like it's being flooded from a shell account provider |
| 18:01.46 | spiral | hi |
| 18:02.05 | lobezno | I have a problem with k3b, I cant burn a disc |
| 18:02.11 | lobezno | in audio |
| 18:02.36 | lobezno | error while decoding audio tracks, and after could not unlock CD drive |
| 18:02.48 | lobezno | the files are ok, normal mp3 |
| 18:02.48 | annma | me too |
| 18:02.53 | annma | it's new for me |
| 18:02.53 | lobezno | only happen with this disks |
| 18:03.00 | lobezno | is a bug? |
| 18:03.05 | annma | what disks? |
| 18:03.27 | lobezno | with this disk/album of mp3 |
| 18:03.28 | lobezno | I mean |
| 18:03.32 | annma | mine are crappy CD-W |
| 18:03.37 | annma | CD-R |
| 18:03.39 | annma | ah |
| 18:03.42 | lobezno | I burn other albums in this CD-R without problems |
| 18:03.48 | lobezno | I need to burn this |
| 18:04.05 | annma | so probably your files have something |
| 18:04.16 | annma | did you rip them yourself? |
| 18:04.21 | lobezno | no |
| 18:04.29 | lobezno | but I cant listen them without problems |
| 18:04.31 | annma | convert them to ogg |
| 18:04.35 | annma | can't? |
| 18:04.36 | lobezno | and If I put them to wave |
| 18:04.40 | lobezno | same problem |
| 18:04.41 | lobezno | ! |
| 18:04.58 | annma | probably the mp3s have something |
| 18:05.04 | annma | maybe mp3 pro? |
| 18:05.08 | lobezno | I SAID |
| 18:05.19 | lobezno | I have same problem putting them in wave format |
| 18:05.19 | lobezno | ! |
| 18:05.20 | lobezno | xD |
| 18:05.32 | annma | yes because the files are tainted somehow |
| 18:05.38 | annma | I HEARD |
| 18:05.52 | lobezno | hehehe |
| 18:06.03 | annma | what kde version do you have? |
| 18:06.10 | lobezno | I use sarge debian |
| 18:06.20 | annma | for me my CD-R are so crappy Nero does not burn them |
| 18:06.23 | lobezno | same version is in sid I think |
| 18:06.30 | annma | yes but what KDE version is it?? |
| 18:06.31 | lobezno | nero? |
| 18:06.40 | annma | Windows -> Nero |
| 18:06.55 | lobezno | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:07.00 | lobezno | i know nero |
| 18:07.08 | annma | maybe try another cd burning tool |
| 18:07.19 | annma | that's all you can do really |
| 18:07.31 | lobezno | is very weird |
| 18:07.44 | annma | a bug report won't do unless you attach a sample of your mp3 |
| 18:08.37 | annma | in konsole, cd in the dir where your mp3s are |
| 18:08.42 | annma | and then type |
| 18:08.52 | annma | file name_of_an_mp3 |
| 18:08.58 | lobezno | all are ok |
| 18:09.02 | annma | paste the output |
| 18:09.05 | lobezno | but after are in wave format |
| 18:09.07 | annma | paste the output |
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| 18:09.18 | lobezno | so then, what is the problem with wave format? |
| 18:09.24 | annma | try that please |
| 18:09.31 | annma | just to see something |
| 18:10.30 | lobezno | MP3 file with ID3 version 2.3.0 tag |
| 18:10.48 | lobezno | all |
| 18:11.11 | annma | that's all the command says? |
| 18:11.32 | lobezno | yes |
| 18:11.36 | Linux-Addict | hello |
| 18:12.27 | annma | hmm, thin thin |
| 18:12.50 | annma | 01 - Blitzkrieg.mp3: MP3, 128 kBits, 44.1 kHz, JStereo |
| 18:12.54 | lobezno | yes |
| 18:13.02 | annma | that's more informative about the file |
| 18:13.12 | lobezno | but what about when then they are wav? |
| 18:13.19 | lobezno | wav are allways the same.. |
| 18:13.20 | lobezno | no? |
| 18:14.21 | annma | well, I am not sure |
| 18:17.06 | lobezno | is veeeeeeery weird |
| 18:19.47 | annma | what does k3b says? |
| 18:20.56 | annma | lobezno: what k3b version is it? k3b --version in konsole to know that |
| 18:21.02 | annma | I found a bug report |
| 18:21.39 | lobezno | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:22.09 | annma | <annma> lobezno: what k3b version is it? k3b --version in konsole to know that |
| 18:22.32 | lobezno | o Instalados: 0.11.18-1 |
| 18:23.46 | annma | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=80543 <- look at that |
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| 18:25.25 | Flendor | Hello :) |
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| 19:07.35 | DarcyB | I'm, having problems with kmail sig 10'ing and crashing at startup... |
| 19:11.25 | arcade | DarcyB: Try doing an strace and see where it fails |
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| 19:11.46 | DarcyB | a back trace in gdb shows: |
| 19:11.47 | DarcyB | #0 0x298e6e02 in QListViewItem::listView () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 19:11.47 | DarcyB | (gdb) bt |
| 19:11.47 | DarcyB | #0 0x298e6e02 in QListViewItem::listView () from /usr/X11R6/lib/libqt-mt.so.3 |
| 19:11.47 | DarcyB | #1 0x298e1351 in QListViewItem::enforceSortOrder () |
| 19:11.47 | DarcyB | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:13.19 | lwithers | Hi, I don't suppose there are any knowledgeable kst users about? |
| 19:13.19 | arcade | I was just wondering whether it tried to acDid you say sig 10? |
| 19:13.23 | arcade | Does it die on sigusr1 ? |
| 19:15.14 | DarcyB | arcade: |
| 19:15.18 | DarcyB | (no debugging symbols found)... |
| 19:15.18 | DarcyB | Core was generated by `kmail'. |
| 19:15.18 | DarcyB | Program terminated with signal 10, Bus error. |
| 19:15.58 | arcade | okay .. |
| 19:16.01 | arcade | no idea. |
| 19:16.23 | arcade | I'm still wondering about 'strace', if it calls a system call and just dies there .. |
| 19:16.58 | arcade | (I've never been any good at gdb ;) |
| 19:18.14 | DarcyB | if I rm all the .index and .index.ids files in my mailboxes.. kmail will launch.. but then soem time later it will die |
| 19:22.18 | DarcyB | arcade: there is no strace on FreeBSD |
| 19:22.24 | arcade | DarcyB: okay. |
| 19:22.36 | arcade | what about 'truss' then? |
| 19:22.43 | arcade | or maybe strace is in ports. |
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| 19:25.12 | DarcyB | arcade: http://www.dbitech.ca/typescript for the session output |
| 19:25.44 | oggb4mp3_ | How can I install an icon set system wide |
| 19:26.01 | oggb4mp3_ | I s there something that has to be done other than coopy the set to /usr/share/icons |
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| 19:29.01 | Flendor | Re. |
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| 19:32.51 | arcade | DarcyB: As you've probably seen: |
| 19:32.52 | arcade | munmap(0x2a1fc000,0x3a8) = 0 (0x0) |
| 19:32.52 | arcade | sigaction(SIGILL,0xbfbffb3c,0xbfbffb24) = 0 (0x0) |
| 19:32.52 | arcade | sigprocmask(0x1,0x0,0x2805fedc) = 0 (0x0) |
| 19:32.52 | arcade | sigaction(SIGILL,0xbfbffb24,0x0) = 0 (0x0) |
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| 19:33.03 | arcade | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:33.10 | arcade | But that's signal 4, not signal 10 . |
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| 19:35.41 | arcade | I've got no clue why it happens. |
| 19:36.47 | DarcyB | ahmmm.... |
| 19:36.57 | DarcyB | let me fo kick the box a bit.. thx |
| 19:37.59 | arcade | My _guess_ is that something is going astray due to running it a certain configuration under freebsd, which the developers haven't tested - but that may be entirely wrong |
| 19:38.05 | Tony | can anyone tell me where windows-like alt-tab window switching is activated? |
| 19:38.26 | arcade | Tony: Isn't it the default? (I have to admit that I don't have a clue on how windows does the alt-tabbing). |
| 19:39.00 | arcade | .. but my alt+tab here seems to work as it did under win95 or something - which was the last windows version i used. |
| 19:39.02 | Tony | arcade: well i mean this neat little window which shows availiable windows when you hitnhold alt-tab |
| 19:39.17 | arcade | Tony: Never seen that, I think. |
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| 19:39.30 | Tony | arcade: it probably is the default, but i do not want to reset my config |
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| 19:41.56 | BlackHand | hi |
| 19:42.00 | BlackHand | one question |
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| 19:43.01 | BlackHand | in kde 3.2 kpilot + kmail sync incoming and outcoming mail. in 3.3 only outcoming mail.... in kde 3.4 will be outcoming only or incoming/outcoming mail again ? |
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| 19:46.52 | inc|freaky | when marking a area on the desktop, how can i make that look better? ... the frame arround looks ugly with those different color dashes or points, black grey ... :(( |
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| 19:49.40 | inc|freaky | brb |
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| 19:52.13 | BlackHand | hi, in kde 3.2, kpilot + kmail sync incoming and outcoming mail. In kde 3.3 only outcoming mail.... in kde 3.4 will be outcoming only or incoming/outcoming mail again ? |
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| 19:56.20 | PieD | BlackHand: did you report the bug ? |
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| 19:57.09 | BlackHand | PieD: is a bug ? in kde 3.3 don't exist the option for incoming mail, in the docs for 3.2 appear the option, but not in the 3.3 docs |
| 20:05.04 | PieD | BlackHand: if something disappeared between kde 3.2 and 3.3, this is a regression |
| 20:05.11 | PieD | and must be reported as a bug ! |
| 20:05.45 | lauri | it's not a bug if it's in the changelog |
| 20:05.49 | lauri | and I'm fairly sure that is |
| 20:06.00 | lauri | (it is a regression, but reporting it as a bug won't get you far :) |
| 20:07.18 | Flendor | Hello lauri \o |
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| 20:10.02 | xomp | hi guys & gals, can someone tell me where the "notes" are stored when you save a Kjots note? |
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| 20:10.31 | PieD | kjots ? |
| 20:10.45 | lauri | ~/.kde/share/apps/kjots/ |
| 20:10.50 | xomp | yah, kjots the notes taker :) |
| 20:11.00 | xomp | thanks |
| 20:11.02 | PieD | I didn't know that apps :) |
| 20:11.57 | bushwakko | is there any way to get kwikdisk to automount stuff? |
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| 20:27.32 | oneforall | hey can you change splash screens per user? |
| 20:27.56 | Venson | oneforall: of course...look in the control center |
| 20:28.35 | oneforall | ok just wonder I did it with one and went to another and that user ended up with the same one and not default |
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| 20:30.38 | aseigo | oneforall: was that "one user" that you did it with root? or do the users share home dirs? |
| 20:31.39 | canllaith | heh thanks :) |
| 20:31.49 | Venson | :) |
| 20:31.50 | ataxic | hi! |
| 20:32.09 | Alethes | howday canllaith :) |
| 20:32.16 | canllaith | Hey there Alethes |
| 20:32.25 | Alethes | I made a nifty bash script |
| 20:32.28 | canllaith | damn this irc client sucks, I'm gonna use irssi over ssh :S |
| 20:32.38 | ataxic | canllaith: :) |
| 20:32.56 | Alethes | when my load avg is higher than 1, it uses a kdialog passive popup to show me the top 5 apps using the cpu |
| 20:32.57 | ataxic | i gave up on irc clients, irssi over ssh anywhere anytime |
| 20:33.09 | canllaith | hey ataxic |
| 20:33.32 | canllaith | man I don't even have my ssh keys on this thing :(:( |
| 20:33.33 | ataxic | lol |
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| 20:33.58 | _allanon | haha, you haven't memorized them? noob. |
| 20:34.07 | canllaith | uh |
| 20:34.10 | canllaith | whatever you reckon |
| 20:34.15 | _allanon | sorry, jk :> |
| 20:34.25 | ataxic | i use the same password for certain boxes locally |
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| 20:34.35 | oneforall | aseigo ah its ok yeah but I see when I changed it back in root it works . thought it would happen the other way too :) |
| 20:34.38 | ataxic | which are not accesable form the ouside |
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| 20:34.48 | can|irssi | I have my ssh keys on the other machines here, I could have sworn I had them on the powerbok too |
| 20:34.51 | can|irssi | ah well |
| 20:34.51 | ataxic | i have those password for years |
| 20:35.17 | ataxic | can|irssi: cant you just accept a new one when you login? |
| 20:35.25 | can|irssi | 'accept a new one' ? |
| 20:35.27 | ataxic | as in first login acception |
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| 20:35.34 | can|irssi | Wrong keys |
| 20:35.39 | ataxic | i dont understand what you mean with keys |
| 20:35.43 | can|irssi | Obviously. |
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| 20:36.30 | can|irssi | ssh allows you to authenticate using publickey/privatekey |
| 20:36.42 | Alethes | key auth is such a wonderful thing |
| 20:36.52 | can|irssi | which is especially handy for cvs/svn |
| 20:37.01 | Alethes | I wish I could use key auth for imap |
| 20:37.10 | BHand | hi, in kde 3.3.2 mail conduit in kpilot only sync outcoming (sending) mail? |
| 20:37.12 | can|irssi | and means passwordless logins - scp without passwords is so damn convenient |
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| 20:38.32 | sarah03 | can|irssi: It's convenient, when you're doing the scp from machines you own to machines you own. [Ok. I suppose I could 0wn some of the machines that I might want to use scp with, but that's not what I'm talking about, even if I do have root on them.] |
| 20:39.25 | can|irssi | Well |
| 20:39.38 | can|irssi | I don't see why you have to 'own' the machines |
| 20:39.59 | can|irssi | kde, gwydiondylan, hoult.org, btl etc are all set up for it |
| 20:40.28 | sarah03 | can|irssi: I probably phrased that wrong... I don't want the ssh key allowing login to my box sitting on someone else's box. |
| 20:40.35 | can|irssi | So don't |
| 20:40.54 | can|irssi | Set it up properly ;) |
| 20:41.03 | sarah03 | Heh, I don't tend to use them, until it's an account that I log into that frequently. |
| 20:41.09 | can|irssi | which I don't do :P |
| 20:41.31 | can|irssi | I don't see any reason to use anything else but ssh keys on cvs |
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| 20:42.00 | can|irssi | yikes this touchpad is evil! |
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| 20:44.37 | ht990332 | hi, is it possible to add a shortcut in the kde menu for all users? |
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| 20:46.12 | ht990332 | hi, is it possible to add a shortcut in the kde menu for all users? |
| 20:46.19 | PhilRod | yes, um, let me think how |
| 20:48.43 | PhilRod | try this (it might not work exactly): create a new user, add the shortcut you want to the menu. Copy the file ~newuser/.config/menus/applications-kmenuedit.menu to somewhere readable by all users |
| 20:49.07 | PhilRod | oh, sorry, you should copy it to $KDEDIR/etc/xdg/menus |
| 20:49.12 | PhilRod | I think that would work |
| 20:49.40 | ht990332 | thanks I'll try that now. |
| 20:50.27 | PhilRod | that might duplicate some entries. If so, try editing the file - it should be fairly obvious how it works |
| 20:53.59 | oneforall | how do i change the color of the panel bar ? |
| 20:54.08 | ht990332 | I'm using FC3 with kde 3.3.2, will this still apply? $KDEDIR/etc/ is an empty dir |
| 20:54.56 | PhilRod | I think so. If it doesn't, you'll need to export the envar XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$KDEDIR/etc/xdg |
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| 21:19.33 | PhilRod | control center -> desktop -> panel -> appearance? |
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| 21:28.28 | PieD | heluile ? |
| 21:28.35 | PieD | hello :p |
| 21:28.41 | cvncpu | PieD: hello |
| 21:28.42 | PieD | nobody will understand, hopefully :) |
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| 21:42.40 | jepel_tailweaver | hello all |
| 21:42.56 | jepel_tailweaver | I semi-accidentally deleted my Trash by moving it to the Trash |
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| 21:47.26 | sredna | jepel_tailweaver: What KDE version? |
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| 22:01.34 | jepel_tailweaver | sredna: 3.3.91 |
| 22:01.53 | troyb | i have a .theme file however it wont let me add it in the theme manager, what can i do> |
| 22:02.03 | sredna | jepel_tailweaver: Create a 'link to location' and point it to 'trash:/' |
| 22:02.09 | jepel_tailweaver | ok |
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| 22:08.25 | Darkvater | Hi. How can I change the key-shortcuts for the popup menus? in the Konqueror file browser? |
| 22:08.43 | Darkvater | They are not the same as in windows and I keep pressing 'm' to rename files and go on deleting them :( |
| 22:09.03 | jepel_tailweaver | Darkvater: Settings -> Configure Shortcuts |
| 22:09.19 | PhilRod | no, he means the accelerators |
| 22:09.22 | Darkvater | no, those are only shortcuts like F2 |
| 22:09.27 | PhilRod | Darkvater: or do you? |
| 22:09.38 | Darkvater | I mean the 'Rename' and R is underscored |
| 22:09.43 | Darkvater | donnu how that's called :) |
| 22:09.52 | PhilRod | I don't think you can change them, for various reasons |
| 22:09.54 | Darkvater | and I'd like to have 'm' underscored |
| 22:10.29 | PhilRod | you'd have to recompile, I think |
| 22:10.50 | PhilRod | but why go through the menu when you could just press F2 to rename? |
| 22:11.50 | Darkvater | PhilRod: cause I have single-click iwth the mouse so I cannot click on the file and then press f2 |
| 22:12.15 | Darkvater | but oh well I can always learn some new shortcuts :) |
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| 22:12.42 | PhilRod | you can Ctrl+click |
| 22:12.52 | Oleg_ | listen, what's wrong with kopete? |
| 22:13.02 | avu | Does anyone here know about a doument describing how to add items to the context menu shown when right-clicking a file in konqueror? |
| 22:13.08 | Oleg_ | why can't some people see the messages I send them? |
| 22:13.11 | PhilRod | apt: servicemenus |
| 22:13.12 | apt | i heard servicemenus is http://developer.kde.org/documentation/tutorials/dot/servicemenus.html |
| 22:13.15 | PhilRod | avu: ^^^ htere |
| 22:13.17 | PhilRod | there* |
| 22:13.26 | Oleg_ | even after I change styles |
| 22:13.28 | avu | philrod: Thanks! :) |
| 22:13.39 | Oleg_ | canllaith: u there? |
| 22:13.57 | Oleg_ | I wanna curse kopete |
| 22:14.27 | Alethes | Oleg_: maybe people can see you, but they're just ignoring you :) |
| 22:14.32 | Oleg_ | sorry for cursing, but kopete is a fucking bitch now |
| 22:14.46 | Darkvater | thx for the help though :) |
| 22:14.48 | Oleg_ | Alethes: :) |
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| 22:14.51 | sarah03 | Oleg_: I've been having issues with kopete lately, but I haven't thought much of it; I figured that since I was running CVS HEAD, problems were to be expected. |
| 22:15.18 | Alethes | it's working fine for me |
| 22:15.46 | canllaith | mmmm ? |
| 22:15.59 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/files/abacus-and-pictsie.jpg |
| 22:16.01 | canllaith | Look, at that |
| 22:16.06 | Oleg_ | does anybody here use kopete 0.9.92? |
| 22:16.07 | canllaith | That notebook on the right is tiny. |
| 22:16.39 | canllaith | The scary thing is, the one on the left is not a full size notebook, it's a 13" 4lb portable |
| 22:16.46 | PieD | Oleg_: I use kopete 0.9.92 for jabber, not for iRC |
| 22:16.50 | sarah03 | Oleg_: 0.9.92 as in "I built kopete from tarballs marked kde3.4b2" or "I built kopete from CVS"? |
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| 22:17.17 | Oleg_ | tarballs marked kde3.4b2 |
| 22:17.47 | sarah03 | I'm running CVS HEAD. It's got some issues, yes. Most of the issues I've run into have been Yahoo going offline without ever updating the interface to tell me so. |
| 22:17.56 | canllaith | oh not pleasant |
| 22:18.17 | canllaith | mattr is the plugin maintainer for that, and he's fantastic about responding to bugs -immediately- if you were to want to file one |
| 22:18.41 | sarah03 | canllaith: I didn't stress about it, mostly because I figured that it was probably in a state of flux. |
| 22:18.51 | sarah03 | It is CVS HEAD, you know. :) |
| 22:18.54 | canllaith | Yeah :) |
| 22:19.55 | Oleg_ | canllaith: what version of kopete do you use? |
| 22:20.02 | canllaith | current CVS head |
| 22:20.08 | canllaith | eh, and a few patches I don't know if mattr has commited yet |
| 22:20.18 | Alethes | anybody here listen to the band, Pilate? |
| 22:20.25 | Alethes | I really dig'em |
| 22:20.58 | jepel_tailweaver | hello canllaith |
| 22:21.20 | jepel_tailweaver | anyone here notice that after going from 3.3.2 to 3.3.91 the Delete option in Konq disappears? |
| 22:21.34 | Oleg_ | can anybody tell me about a really good instant messaging program for Linux? It seems like, but I may be wrong, gaim and kopete SUCK now. |
| 22:22.02 | jepel_tailweaver | gaim and kopete both suck? |
| 22:22.12 | Oleg_ | though kopete is just pretty on the outside. |
| 22:22.20 | Oleg_ | yeah, they do |
| 22:22.37 | PhilRod | jepel_tailweaver: yep - take a look on the mailing lists for discussion of it. You can get the delete option back in one of the konq configuration dialogs |
| 22:22.44 | PhilRod | or rather, one of the configuration dialog pages |
| 22:22.55 | jepel_tailweaver | Phah, ok |
| 22:22.57 | jepel_tailweaver | bah |
| 22:22.59 | jepel_tailweaver | PhilRod: ok |
| 22:23.23 | PhilRod | Oleg_: if you have a specific problem with kopete, file a bug, like canllaith suggests |
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| 22:23.46 | Vanquisher | hey, whats the USE flag that suposidly speeds up kde merge times |
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| 22:24.21 | jbb666 | USE="+faster_pussycat_kill_kill" |
| 22:24.31 | jbb666 | ;) |
| 22:24.50 | Alethes | haha |
| 22:25.20 | Vanquisher | rofl |
| 22:25.32 | Alethes | USE="+valley_of_the_dolls" might produce interesting results |
| 22:25.51 | PhilRod | Vanquisher: you should ask in #gentoo |
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| 22:27.38 | oneforall | man the themes ar not easy to install :( |
| 22:27.57 | oneforall | icons or the styles |
| 22:28.36 | oneforall | spash was ok but I haqd to move them out of install to my user and put them to opt for global |
| 22:28.47 | PhilRod | why? |
| 22:29.15 | PhilRod | I could see how widget styles would be tricky, since you have to compile. What was the problem with icons? |
| 22:30.00 | oneforall | well I trie dto got to make sure it waatleast >3.2 ones but they all fail with the installer |
| 22:30.06 | oneforall | I have 3.3.2 |
| 22:31.07 | oneforall | I was hoping to setup xp them to trick my boys but man I gaveup on that one lol |
| 22:31.12 | _allanon | I have 3.4 beta 2, and it makes me happy. |
| 22:31.56 | _allanon | just a few days to 3.4 final now. |
| 22:32.44 | oneforall | yeah I gotta try that oen but right now getting this computer set up for my boys. sick of fixing windows on it |
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| 22:36.02 | sredna | oneforall: What do you do to install it? |
| 22:36.35 | oneforall | which / the icons ? |
| 22:36.43 | sredna | oneforall: Yes |
| 22:37.12 | oneforall | apperance themes>icons |
| 22:37.14 | mobtek | heh PhilRod |
| 22:37.50 | oneforall | plus I want global not each usaer |
| 22:37.53 | oneforall | user* |
| 22:39.09 | sredna | oneforall: If it will not accept the archieve, it's not containing the required .theme file |
| 22:39.25 | sredna | oneforall: I haven't had problems with the sets I have installed |
| 22:39.55 | PhilRod | to install an icon set globally, can't you just untar it into $KDEDIR/share/icons ? |
| 22:40.36 | PieD | @++ |
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| 22:41.33 | oneforall | ok will just untar them |
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| 22:56.16 | haakonn_ | does kde 3.3.2 beta2 have any equivalent to the old knetload (a kicker applet graphing network usage)? |
| 22:57.12 | Zenethian | KSysGuard has something similar |
| 22:57.21 | Zenethian | you can add a second panel to it and display memory usage in a graph |
| 22:57.49 | haakonn_ | but i want network usage, the ksysguard applet seems to only have cpu |
| 22:58.39 | haakonn_ | it lets you delete sensors, but not add them :) ksysguard has been a usability nightmare from day one |
| 22:59.07 | sarah03 | haakonn_: Drag sensors from the sensor browser in ksysguard to the panel. |
| 22:59.17 | haakonn_ | ooh |
| 22:59.55 | Zenethian | Uhm.. |
| 23:00.00 | Zenethian | yah |
| 23:00.01 | Zenethian | hehe |
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| 23:00.17 | Zenethian | Mine has CPU, Memory, and Swap. |
| 23:00.18 | Zenethian | three panels. |
| 23:00.23 | Zenethian | looks nice, really. |
| 23:00.28 | ^JM^ | now kde isnt anymore compiled for/with apidocs? |
| 23:00.32 | haakonn_ | yay, made kicker crash :) |
| 23:00.37 | Zenethian | haha |
| 23:00.43 | Zenethian | well that is always lovely. |
| 23:01.18 | ^JM^ | no one knows to answer? |
| 23:01.27 | haakonn_ | i can reproduce this crash even, oh well |
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| 23:05.28 | PhilRod | ^JM^: 'make apidox' or see them online at developer.kde.org |
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| 23:05.36 | PhilRod | afaik, they were never compiled by defauly |
| 23:05.38 | PhilRod | default* |
| 23:06.37 | ^JM^ | PhilRod: am a mandrake user, and what im trying to know is why when i compile now the new kde it gives error in the apidocs part of the spec file |
| 23:07.09 | nico__- | hello, I' have a little question, is there any simple way (not inluding 2>/dev/null) to remove all the debu information that is printed out when I start any kde application in command line? |
| 23:08.25 | ^JM^ | I get many error messages of the type File not found by glob: kde/HTML/en/kdelibs-%version-apidocs/kmdi/html/*.html |
| 23:08.44 | ^JM^ | PhilRod: are u understanding? |
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| 23:08.59 | PhilRod | nico__-: kdebugdialog |
| 23:09.06 | PhilRod | nico__-: you can read more about it in the user guide: |
| 23:09.07 | PhilRod | apt: ug |
| 23:09.08 | apt | well, ug is http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng |
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| 23:09.11 | PhilRod | there ^^^ |
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| 23:09.29 | OneFix_Work | What version of KDE Toys do I need for KWeather? |
| 23:09.29 | slim | hi all |
| 23:09.31 | PhilRod | ^JM^: sounds like a problem with the spec file |
| 23:09.36 | nico__- | PhilRod : g?nial! Thanks a lot! |
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| 23:09.57 | ^JM^ | i cant figure what |
| 23:10.02 | PhilRod | nico__-: ah, tu es français? |
| 23:10.10 | nico__- | euh.. ouais :) |
| 23:10.39 | nico__- | PhilRod : c'est pas trop grave j'esp?re |
| 23:10.41 | PhilRod | ^JM^: I suppose you'd have to ask in #mandrake, or try to rouse the sleeping mandrake users here |
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| 23:11.12 | s3m10s | buona sera. |
| 23:11.24 | s3m10s | how do you load a kicker applet via command line? |
| 23:11.34 | ^JM^ | but mandrake still only uses kde-3.3.2, and im trying to get a step haed and compile kde-3.3.94 |
| 23:11.38 | PhilRod | nico__-: pas du tout - je te propose #kde-fr. On essaie de creer un communauté KDE français |
| 23:11.45 | s3m10s | I'm trying to troubleshoot my kaquarium that won't load |
| 23:11.47 | ^JM^ | meaning last kde |
| 23:12.22 | slim | ^JM^, cvs or beta 2? |
| 23:12.39 | PhilRod | nico__-: although my French isn't great, so I have to get more native speakers there :-) |
| 23:12.46 | s3m10s | anyone know how to load kicker applets from aterm/konsole? |
| 23:13.05 | ^JM^ | im using a snapshot, kdelibs-050224.tar.bz2 |
| 23:14.02 | slim | what are you trying to do? |
| 23:14.24 | s3m10s | I'm trying to find out what my applet which compiled alright won't load |
| 23:14.28 | s3m10s | I need some feedback |
| 23:14.38 | ^JM^ | didnt u read what i said? |
| 23:15.01 | s3m10s | JM, I'm using beta 2 and was thinking of putting it as an archive on my ftp. |
| 23:15.36 | s3m10s | you guys know there is is an ooo quick start for kde |
| 23:15.38 | slim | you could always use konstruct or just compile from hand |
| 23:15.55 | s3m10s | konstruct is easy |
| 23:16.05 | ^JM^ | but for that the mandrake features arent integrated |
| 23:16.26 | ^JM^ | and konstruct is only for mandrake10 and im using mandrake 10.2 |
| 23:16.27 | slim | but konsruct compiles kde into a different directory instead of making beta 2 default |
| 23:16.50 | ^JM^ | slim: i know all that |
| 23:17.16 | slim | im not all that familiar with mandrake srri..i use gentoo so i just emerged beta2 |
| 23:17.19 | ^JM^ | kde needs to be integrated with the mandrake system |
| 23:17.45 | slim | you mean made default? |
| 23:17.48 | s3m10s | integrated? |
| 23:17.53 | s3m10s | kde is default on mandrake |
| 23:17.56 | slim | yea what do you mean |
| 23:18.01 | ^JM^ | of course i can compile kde.tar.gz but then features like mandrake menus and other are gone |
| 23:18.45 | _chavo | ^JM^, I'm using Mandrake, but I prefer the KDE menus anyway |
| 23:18.55 | ^JM^ | _chavo: i dont |
| 23:19.01 | _chavo | they put all of the apps in tere |
| 23:19.03 | ^JM^ | no |
| 23:19.08 | _chavo | well fix it then |
| 23:19.14 | _chavo | yes |
| 23:19.43 | ^JM^ | mandrake removes some menus that are needed like konquerorsu for example, and thats why i initiated a new kde rpms with a friend of myne |
| 23:20.07 | ^JM^ | and we haves a good kde, with all features and menus, mandrake developers suck |
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| 23:20.23 | _chavo | oh please |
| 23:20.28 | PhilRod | ^JM^: oh, you're using a spec file you wrote yourself? |
| 23:20.33 | ^JM^ | you can see what im talking about in rpm.nyvalls.se |
| 23:20.46 | ^JM^ | the spec file i use is mandrake based |
| 23:20.59 | ^JM^ | but rewritten by me |
| 23:21.07 | PhilRod | oh, I see |
| 23:21.30 | ^JM^ | mandrake only haves kde-3.3.2 |
| 23:21.38 | slim | isnt File Manager Superuser konquerorsu? |
| 23:21.51 | ^JM^ | when mandrake made kde-3.3.2 i already use it for about 4 months |
| 23:21.56 | PhilRod | slim: yup |
| 23:22.05 | ^JM^ | slim: yes |
| 23:22.26 | slim | im confused to as what menus your talking about then |
| 23:22.53 | ^JM^ | in mandrake u can only run konqueror as user in the menus |
| 23:22.54 | PhilRod | ^JM^: well, I'm not familiar with .spec files, but are you running any commands other than './configure; make;make install'? |
| 23:23.02 | ^JM^ | there isnt a menu to run konqueror as root |
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| 23:23.24 | slim | why dont you just make it then |
| 23:23.30 | ^JM^ | PhilRod: if u ask that defenitly u dont know whats a spec |
| 23:23.44 | ^JM^ | slim: already answered that |
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| 23:25.08 | PhilRod | ^JM^: heh. No, I dont :-) |
| 23:25.55 | s3m10s | JM if your at all interested in dl'ing my build of 3.4b2 for mandrake 10.1 , I'll try to gz it and put it on my ftp server. |
| 23:26.41 | ^JM^ | s3m10s: im usinf the snapshot kdelibs-050224.tar.bz2 |
| 23:26.56 | ^JM^ | that is earlyer than urs, right? |
| 23:27.00 | s3m10s | yeah |
| 23:27.32 | s3m10s | b2 is from konstruct, looks like around 2/10 or so |
| 23:28.37 | oneforall | hmm why with a sn blaster 16 does kmix not have mute ? |
| 23:28.47 | oneforall | sn/snd |
| 23:29.44 | oneforall | ah its not muting in alsmixer either hm |
| 23:31.05 | s3m10s | how do I troubleshoot an applet that won't start? |
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| 23:33.32 | herodes | where i set to allow root login into kde? |
| 23:34.39 | slayerbob | er ? |
| 23:34.41 | slayerbob | can root do that ? |
| 23:34.48 | slayerbob | and why would you want to ? :| |
| 23:34.51 | s3m10s | you have to edit kde/share/config/kdm/kdmrc |
| 23:36.09 | PhilRod | s3m10s: I think there is/was an applet debugger - do a "ls $KDEDIR/bin | grep debug" |
| 23:36.20 | s3m10s | ok. great! thanks |
| 23:36.38 | sarah03 | appletproxy |
| 23:37.07 | s3m10s | found anotherway too! started kicker from konsole and then opened the applet |
| 23:37.10 | sarah03 | Run appletproxy [your .desktop file] ... it'll come up by itself. |
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| 23:38.07 | PhilRod | oh yeah, appletproxy - that's what I was thinking of :-) |
| 23:38.19 | s3m10s | thank yous guys |
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| 23:40.51 | skurk | hmm, is there any exposélike app that can keep the current screen and show thumbnails of the applications instead of like komposé replacing the entire screen? |
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| 23:41.12 | canllaith | skurk: google for 'skippy' |
| 23:41.33 | canllaith | Although I think it works somewhat like kompose does, but it's prolly worth a look |
| 23:42.02 | skurk | tried that yesterday, its pretty much the same as komposé |
| 23:42.17 | canllaith | I guess I just don't ever have enough windows open heh |
| 23:42.35 | skurk | the kicker taskbar can not be made transparent :/ |
| 23:42.43 | canllaith | Yeah, grab taskbar v2 from kde-apps.org |
| 23:42.49 | canllaith | That one goes transparent. |
| 23:43.06 | skurk | it does, gonna chek it out |
| 23:43.11 | _chavo | yup, and it has little thumbnails on mouseover |
| 23:43.30 | canllaith | works nice, although now aseigo has made ktaskbar button height configurable I'm back using the old one |
| 23:43.33 | skurk | connection refused... :/ |
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| 23:44.18 | Zenethian | How do I un-map a KWin key? |
| 23:44.20 | sarah03 | I'm still using mtaskbar, and probably will until I can make the default taskbar translucent, even if it's just fake translucency. |
| 23:44.29 | skurk | im not really a fan of exposé, just wanted to get rid of the ugly grey taskbar applet... |
| 23:44.38 | Zenethian | nevermind found it |
| 23:44.42 | canllaith | looks pretty |
| 23:45.02 | canllaith | Which I should try on the notebook although I suspect it will -crawl- on a 4MB rage |
| 23:45.06 | sarah03 | Composite... I can start a compositing manager, at which point my desktop vanishes. |
| 23:45.10 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/files/purple.png |
| 23:45.27 | canllaith | ah, that's a bugger. It took me ages to tweak things to the state that xcompmgr would run without crashing X within 3 minutes |
| 23:45.38 | sarah03 | And very occasionally, I'll see a widget appear. |
| 23:45.46 | sarah03 | And then it'll promptly vanish again. |
| 23:46.11 | skurk | i want 3d accel :) |
| 23:46.14 | canllaith | The kwin one seems pretty stable, although I'm sure that's a highly specific combination of X version, kernel version, vid card drivers etc I'll never be able to reproduce heh |
| 23:46.20 | canllaith | You can force glx on with composite |
| 23:46.25 | skurk | anyone else getting connection refused to kde-apps.org? |
| 23:46.26 | rich_B | cabllaith: its not so bad with dri...although the composite manager kept core dumping and the CPU usage was at 60% |
| 23:46.33 | rich_B | *canllaith |
| 23:46.40 | canllaith | I use it full time on my desktop it works so well for me |
| 23:46.44 | skurk | nvm, could connect now |
| 23:46.45 | rich_B | That was on a 4mb rage mobility |
| 23:46.51 | canllaith | ok then :) |
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| 23:47.02 | canllaith | I might try it just to compare my 4mb rage with the 4mb neomagic |
| 23:47.07 | canllaith | The neomagic it runs, but it crawls |
| 23:47.16 | skurk | canllaith: with ati-drivers im pretty sure things will break using composite |
| 23:47.19 | rich_B | Im not entirely convinced it was accelerating anything |
| 23:47.31 | canllaith | skurk: no idea, I don't buy non nvidia cards if I can help it |
| 23:47.37 | sarah03 | skurk: ati-drivers deal fine with Composite. |
| 23:47.39 | canllaith | laptops are a bit different. |
| 23:47.47 | skurk | canllaith: i got this for free, im not stupid :) |
| 23:48.09 | skurk | sarah03: oh, outstanding... since ati-drivers do not deal fine with anything else |
| 23:48.21 | s3m10s | my laptop doesn't like kompmgr |
| 23:48.26 | s3m10s | despise is more like it |
| 23:48.31 | skurk | canllaith: fx5200 is what i had before, you cant really compare that and 9600xt |
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| 23:48.36 | sarah03 | [I've got a Radeon 9000 here... but I'm running X on a framebuffer because ati-drivers won't run 16bpp.] |
| 23:48.41 | canllaith | skurk: to be honest, I don't care. |
| 23:48.57 | rich_B | I dunno why trasparency should be so resource hungry really, although I have never looked at X |
| 23:49.06 | canllaith | Well it's not |
| 23:49.19 | Zenethian | I wish I could migrate all my saved passwords from Firefox to Konqueror |
| 23:49.25 | canllaith | ... stupid ultraportable notebook keyboard |
| 23:49.33 | Zenethian | or at least dump them from Firefox.. :> |
| 23:49.35 | canllaith | well it's not stable yet, still in testing |
| 23:49.53 | skurk | canllaith: i do |
| 23:50.00 | canllaith | I can only assume that like everything on linux, it will continue to become more and more excellent with time |
| 23:50.16 | sarah03 | rich_B: It's really not all that resource hungry, on the presumption that you can make use of some acceleration. |
| 23:50.27 | canllaith | I'm completely amazed at how the 2.6 kernel has improved. 12 months ago my toshiba laptop was hell to set up and now it's a joy. |
| 23:50.48 | skurk | hoooray, distcc is working :) |
| 23:50.59 | skurk | at least one way |
| 23:51.47 | rich_B | sarah03: I guess so-I wonder if anyone will make a wrapper for win32 GL drivers-like the network card wrapper thingi for bsd |
| 23:52.00 | sarah03 | Win32 GL drivers? Hah. |
| 23:52.20 | rich_B | Although I bet it would be much more complex than for network cards:P |
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| 23:53.18 | canllaith | eheh... although not blocking the vent with my leg might make it happier :\ |
| 23:53.30 | sredna | Lol |
| 23:53.33 | sredna | Hi canllaith |
| 23:53.42 | canllaith | hi sredna :) |
| 23:53.52 | sredna | How have you been? |
| 23:54.17 | canllaith | Great, thank you :) |
| 23:54.42 | sredna | Good :) |
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| 23:59.26 | bushwakko | hey |
| 23:59.33 | bushwakko | any kde snapshots that work? |
