| 00:00.09 | roggae | well not on my dell laptop |
| 00:00.12 | roggae | running mandrake 10 |
| 00:00.25 | mobtek | ok kicker, K -> Help |
| 00:00.32 | mobtek | is that the same in mandrake? |
| 00:00.38 | roggae | kicker? |
| 00:00.48 | mobtek | the panel |
| 00:00.53 | mobtek | it's called kicker :) |
| 00:01.36 | mobtek | or just Alt-F2 and type help |
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| 00:06.31 | mobtek | roggae: found it? |
| 00:08.51 | willwork4foo | question regarding the ~/.kde/Autostart folder... if I want a certain command to be executed when KDE starts, how do I use this folder? do I just create a file with the command in it and put it in this folder? |
| 00:09.02 | roggae | that worked |
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| 00:11.04 | daum | my emerge is screing up...with like finding bugs it can't find some things...lol |
| 00:11.42 | daum | there a way to rebuild the entire database? |
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| 00:12.21 | mobtek | daum: ask in #gentoo |
| 00:12.30 | AssociateX | daum, man emerge or portage |
| 00:12.56 | AssociateX | #gentoo would be a far better place to ask |
| 00:13.00 | mobtek | hehe |
| 00:13.09 | mobtek | so many kde users using gentoo now |
| 00:13.18 | mobtek | making sure they get kde as it is meant to be I guess |
| 00:13.19 | AssociateX | like me |
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| 00:13.24 | mobtek | hehe same aseigo |
| 00:13.28 | daum | doh |
| 00:13.28 | mobtek | AssociateX even |
| 00:13.38 | daum | didn't notice that this wasn't gentoo |
| 00:13.38 | dpy | if I ./configure for installation in ~/.kde/ do I do ./configure --prefix ~/.kde/ |
| 00:13.39 | daum | hah |
| 00:13.45 | dpy | or do I need something after that ? |
| 00:13.53 | dpy | ~/.kde/usr ? |
| 00:14.08 | AssociateX | --prefix=/some/dir/goes/here |
| 00:14.32 | dpy | nope |
| 00:14.34 | dpy | I was right |
| 00:14.35 | dpy | it works |
| 00:14.37 | dpy | great! |
| 00:14.43 | chavo | roggae, what dsitro? |
| 00:14.58 | chavo | i mean distro? |
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| 00:15.02 | mobtek | roggae: mandrake yes? |
| 00:15.32 | mobtek | roggae: there are links on kde.org to mandrake packages iirc |
| 00:16.09 | wRd | i run debian unstable and compiled xorg (it is located in /usr/local/ and the usual xserver is still installed), the only thing missing is my kdm running xorg instead of xfree and the kdm documentation doesnt cover that. |
| 00:16.34 | mobtek | wRd: weird my kdm just uses xorg :) |
| 00:17.11 | wRd | if i do a startx it runs xorg ... |
| 00:17.56 | arrummzen | How do I restart kde without restarting my X-server? Is there a stopkde command or an equilvent? |
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| 00:19.03 | arrummzen | In that case ill just resttart kde. |
| 00:19.08 | arrummzen | and X |
| 00:19.18 | wRd | mobtek: what have you done, so that it doesnt use xfree ? |
| 00:20.07 | mobtekl | wRd: totally uninstalled xfree |
| 00:20.42 | wRd | mobtek: there must be another way :) |
| 00:22.10 | mobtekl | why, xorg is much nicer than xfree hehe no random system freezes for me hehe |
| 00:25.55 | wRd | i have compiled it myself, and i dont want to break my debian again. and i want to remove it from /usr/local/ as soon as there is a debian package and just update :) |
| 00:27.27 | mattr | debian _is_ broken ;) |
| 00:27.39 | Theory | I find opposite, xorg is far more unstable for me |
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| 00:27.51 | mattr | just kidding about the debian thing |
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| 00:28.23 | wRd | than xfree-4.3 ? |
| 00:28.39 | chavo | Theory, which version of xorg? I'm using 6.8.1 and it's been flawless for me. |
| 00:28.52 | Theory | 6.8.1, composite enabled |
| 00:29.05 | wRd | composite isnt stable :) |
| 00:29.08 | mobtek | same chavo |
| 00:29.08 | Theory | I can deterministically crash it with a few of the xmms visualisations |
| 00:29.45 | chavo | I don't use xmms though |
| 00:30.38 | wRd | i think juk is far superior to xmms ... |
| 00:30.48 | chavo | yes juk rules |
| 00:31.02 | chavo | I just fired up xmms, yuck ... gtk1 |
| 00:31.11 | mobtek | hehehe |
| 00:31.13 | mobtek | amarok! |
| 00:31.28 | wRd | the only drawback: it requires arts |
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| 00:31.37 | chavo | amarok is ok, bur I prefer the simple ui of juk |
| 00:32.05 | Theory | I prefer amarok (and yes, that is how I'm viewing xmms plugins) |
| 00:32.29 | chavo | oh |
| 00:32.39 | Theory | I want to be able to have a visualisation as my background (using kwin to set it fullscreen, behind others) but X dies |
| 00:36.34 | MrGrim | Theory: crashing x.org w/ composite enabled is pretty easy... and I imagine xmms visualization plugins would be pretty good at it |
| 00:37.02 | MrGrim | wRd: juk can use gstreamer as of kde 3.4 beta 1 |
| 00:37.49 | MrGrim | I kinda hope kuickshow's issue with argb visuals is fixed by time kde 3.4 final is released |
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| 00:37.56 | MrGrim | but the developers seem to be indifferent to the bug |
| 00:38.29 | MrGrim | kuickshow is the only reason I keep composite off |
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| 00:49.02 | rapsys | hy |
| 00:49.11 | rapsys | is their someone here ? |
| 00:49.25 | arrummzen | hello |
| 00:49.50 | rapsys | hy |
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| 00:50.03 | rapsys | I am looking to make a dvd |
| 00:50.17 | rapsys | and add a .directory to put an icon on the cd |
| 00:50.17 | arrummzen | Sounds fun |
| 00:50.34 | rapsys | but .directory does not seems to like the relative path |
| 00:50.38 | rapsys | in icon |
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| 00:51.05 | rapsys | it need a complete path |
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| 00:51.35 | rapsys | and don't want to make my dvd work only if mount in /mnt/cdrom for exemple... |
| 00:52.10 | arrummzen | hmmm... |
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| 00:52.32 | arrummzen | I don't know of a universal solution to the problem/ |
| 00:53.21 | rapsys | arg |
| 00:53.28 | rapsys | I need to burn it now |
| 00:53.36 | arrummzen | Are you using some kind of autorun system? |
| 00:53.42 | rapsys | no |
| 00:53.54 | rapsys | I just want to have an icon on the cd |
| 00:54.03 | rapsys | when it will be mounted |
| 00:54.11 | arrummzen | Like an icon for a executable? |
| 00:54.17 | rapsys | yes |
| 00:54.51 | rapsys | I know I need to have a .directory for the cd |
| 00:55.00 | arrummzen | I don't know the answer to your question. Sorry |
| 00:55.06 | rapsys | in the / of the dvd |
| 00:55.18 | rapsys | but .directory does not support relative link |
| 00:55.21 | rapsys | :'( |
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| 00:55.50 | arrummzen | You sure? It should... |
| 00:57.41 | rapsys | I have try with Icon=Fruit Basket/Fruit Basket.png and Icon=Fruit Basket.png |
| 00:57.50 | rapsys | both don't work |
| 00:58.31 | arrummzen | Try Icon="./Fruit Basket.png" |
| 00:58.45 | arrummzen | Or Icon=./Fruit\ Basket.png |
| 00:58.47 | rapsys | it works |
| 00:58.51 | arrummzen | What does? |
| 00:58.56 | rapsys | without the \ |
| 00:59.15 | arrummzen | Icon=./Furit Basket.png works? |
| 00:59.20 | rapsys | yes |
| 00:59.27 | arrummzen | Cool |
| 00:59.38 | rapsys | an it go open the png in the direcotry |
| 01:00.09 | rapsys | it would be great if just Icon=Fruit Basket.png work, but ./ is a good work around |
| 01:00.13 | rapsys | than'k a lot |
| 01:00.25 | rapsys | (would be a good idea to add this ability in k3b |
| 01:00.48 | rapsys | make an icon for cd and dvd would be fun and usefull! |
| 01:00.55 | Alethes | does gimp look pretty kde-ish with qt-gtk or whatever it's called? |
| 01:01.20 | rapsys | hu? |
| 01:01.31 | rapsys | Alethes are you spaking to me ? |
| 01:01.40 | Alethes | if you know the answer :) |
| 01:01.50 | Alethes | it was a general question |
| 01:02.03 | rapsys | I am french and I don't understand all english |
| 01:02.25 | Alethes | I'm english and don't know any french :) |
| 01:02.27 | rapsys | this for exemple I don't understand : does gimp look pretty kde-ish with qt-gtk or whatever it's called? |
| 01:02.48 | rapsys | gimp is gtk, no kde related |
| 01:02.52 | Alethes | right |
| 01:03.11 | Alethes | qt-gtk is an engine to apply the kde style to gtk apps, I believe |
| 01:03.15 | Alethes | so I wondered how well it worked |
| 01:03.15 | chavo | Alethes, I'm using gtk-qt and it works great, gtk apps look just like kde, including icons |
| 01:03.21 | Alethes | nice |
| 01:03.34 | rapsys | yes |
| 01:03.35 | chavo | Alethes, get the latest version though as it is much faster |
| 01:03.40 | Alethes | ok will do |
| 01:03.50 | Alethes | gimp is the only gtk app I'm using, but it'd be nice for it to look the same |
| 01:03.54 | rapsys | I use mandrake cooker so I don't know from where is comming the galaxy skin |
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| 01:04.33 | rapsys | because there is a galaxy skin for both gtk win manager and kwin |
| 01:04.36 | Theory | gimp is seggying on me atm :-s |
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| 01:06.37 | gregday | holy crapnozzle, i love HEAD |
| 01:06.45 | Alethes | hah |
| 01:07.39 | gregday | KNode is just a teeny bit away from being able to replace Pan for me |
| 01:08.02 | gregday | if i could select multiple headers and "download attachment(s)" en masse, that would do it |
| 01:08.42 | arrummzen | If I make a small improvment to a KDE application what is the best way to share it with the rest of the community? |
| 01:09.18 | rapsys | send a patch to the main developper of the application |
| 01:09.24 | rapsys | a diff patch |
| 01:10.25 | rapsys | clean both tree and to a diff -urNp tree.orig tree.new > diff.patch |
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| 01:10.48 | rapsys | tree.orig is the tree of the original tree and tree.new is the new one |
| 01:11.09 | arrummzen | Lets say I use an applet in kde 3.3.x and I improve it, can I make the patch and send it off or do I have to download the lastest sourcetree of CVS and implement my improvment in that then send the patch? |
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| 01:11.41 | rapsys | if you implement the path for both stable and cvs version is better |
| 01:12.38 | rapsys | remember to send the patch to the different distribution packager responsible of the applet you improve. |
| 01:12.57 | arrummzen | What do you mean? |
| 01:12.59 | rapsys | it willallow your work be avaible sooner for end user |
| 01:13.07 | rapsys | will enable |
| 01:13.23 | arrummzen | Should I send it to the person whos name is in the author tab of the about box? |
| 01:13.29 | rapsys | yes |
| 01:13.42 | rapsys | in the about of the application |
| 01:13.54 | rapsys | not in general kde about |
| 01:14.07 | arrummzen | The applets about box right? |
| 01:14.14 | rapsys | yes |
| 01:14.27 | arrummzen | Ok, thank you |
| 01:14.46 | rapsys | ps : a small mail on the mailing list would be cool too |
| 01:14.57 | arrummzen | What mailing list? |
| 01:15.05 | rapsys | applet's |
| 01:15.10 | rapsys | or kde's one |
| 01:15.25 | arrummzen | I don't think this applet has a dedicated mailing list... |
| 01:15.34 | arrummzen | It may, ill look into it |
| 01:16.02 | arrummzen | Thank you for your help |
| 01:16.33 | rapsys | http://www.kde.org/mailinglists/ |
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| 01:17.09 | rapsys | if it's a kcontrol aple send it to kcontrol mailing list |
| 01:17.23 | rapsys | s/aple/applet/ |
| 01:18.46 | rapsys | arrummzen remeber to mail you distribution kde's maintainer too |
| 01:18.49 | arrummzen | Ok |
| 01:19.06 | rapsys | rpm -q --changelog name_of_package | more |
| 01:19.17 | rapsys | or something similar for other distrib |
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| 01:20.59 | arrummzen | How important is that step? |
| 01:21.44 | arrummzen | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:26.34 | arrummzen | hwllo |
| 01:26.38 | arrummzen | err hello |
| 01:27.34 | rapsys | arrummzen it will make your patch avaible for end user to next generation of package with new feature instead of waiting generation +2 |
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| 01:28.49 | arrummzen | Why is that? |
| 01:29.36 | rapsys | because maintainer will have the patch now |
| 01:29.44 | rapsys | and they will test it now |
| 01:30.05 | rapsys | else they will need to wait your patch be merged in next stable version |
| 01:30.26 | rapsys | and release of packages are not for each stable version |
| 01:30.45 | rapsys | somme distribution wait a lot between upgrading |
| 01:31.27 | rapsys | ifyou give your patch to maintainer their is more luck that it include it in the curent version of package |
| 01:32.56 | arrummzen | ah, ok |
| 01:33.23 | arrummzen | So then should i send it to as many maintainers as I can (for as many distros as I can)? |
| 01:35.25 | mattr | generally, you should send it to the maintainer of the source code you've changed |
| 01:36.08 | mattr | so, for example, if you changed a kicker applet, you should send it either to the applet's maintainer. if the applet doesn't have a specific maintainer, send it to the kicker maintainer |
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| 01:37.59 | arrummzen | Isn't there a differnt maintainer for each distirbution? |
| 01:38.39 | rapsys | arrummzen their is |
| 01:39.02 | rapsys | but it's better but if you have not time do just it four your distribution |
| 01:39.37 | rapsys | and the one you have under hand to know the maintainer's email adress... |
| 01:39.54 | arrummzen | So I should send it to A: The author and B: The package maintinaer for my distribution. |
| 01:41.12 | rapsys | yes |
| 01:41.18 | arrummzen | Ok |
| 01:41.29 | rapsys | you are not obliged for B |
| 01:41.35 | rapsys | but it's better |
| 01:41.57 | rapsys | but if the soft is under GPL you are obliged by license to do it for A |
| 01:42.16 | rapsys | (redistribution clause of modification) |
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| 01:43.44 | arrummzen | So could I get into legal trouble if I just put the patch or the modified source tree onto a indepenednt website (giving full credit to the original authors for everything but the patch)? |
| 01:44.54 | Legendre | I've got a problem in Kword 1.3ish.. when you start Kword, it pops a dialog asking you to chose some specific doc template, it will not let you create a simple document. |
| 01:45.37 | Legendre | worked fine inititally, then this 'just happened'. |
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| 01:49.25 | rapsys | arrummzen you will not have trouble if you just put the patch on a website.... But it would not be fair for software developper |
| 01:50.48 | rapsys | @++ |
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| 02:16.54 | NamShub | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&postid=1447845#post1447845 |
| 02:17.02 | mobtek | hmm commands on connect in konvi seperated by semi-colons or comma? |
| 02:17.32 | NamShub | space? |
| 02:19.24 | mobtek | hmm lemme try :) |
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| 02:20.19 | mobtek | nope :P |
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| 02:30.06 | snugglemonkey | I'm trying to start KDE and it starts X and I get an error of "could not start kdeinit" Does anyone know how to fix this? |
| 02:30.40 | mobtek | snugglemonkey: try removing the kde-* dirs in /tmp |
| 02:30.46 | mobtek | perhaps |
| 02:30.52 | mobtek | but I haven't seen that error for a long time |
| 02:32.33 | snugglemonkey | I have deleted /tmp files. There is still not working .... lol |
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| 02:33.36 | mobtek | snugglemonkey: hehe your just speshal :P |
| 02:33.46 | snugglemonkey | mobtek: no joke. |
| 02:33.56 | snugglemonkey | simply amazing. |
| 02:34.56 | mobtek | :) |
| 02:35.10 | mobtek | snugglemonkey: are you new to kde?> |
| 02:35.33 | mobtek | I have a theory that the gods test all new users by giving them the weirdest errors it can throw up :) |
| 02:35.34 | snugglemonkey | mobtek: nope, not really... just a little too experimental, I suppose. |
| 02:35.41 | mobtek | ahhhh heheh |
| 02:36.07 | snugglemonkey | I trhink it has to do with arts. |
| 02:36.30 | grepper | snugglemonkey: check ~/.xsession-errors |
| 02:37.20 | snugglemonkey | allright... |
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| 02:39.23 | snugglemonkey | grepper: it's a few lines... so I'll go post it at the pastbin.com |
| 02:39.46 | NamShub | snugglemonkey: does it happen only from kdm? |
| 02:40.33 | snugglemonkey | NamShub: I don't use a login manager on that machine. |
| 02:40.39 | NamShub | ok |
| 02:40.57 | NamShub | I was just asking because I had a similar problem that was kdm-related |
| 02:41.54 | snugglemonkey | The error of .xsession-errors is posted at http://www.pastebin.com/237419 |
| 02:42.35 | grepper | snugglemonkey: how did you install ? |
| 02:43.47 | snugglemonkey | grepper: the install is sort of weird. I use the machine mostly remote via freeNX. It hadn't been rebooted for about a month. There are two KDE installs. 3.2 and 3.4 cvs head. Both show the same error. |
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| 02:45.01 | snugglemonkey | grepper: it also does not work with VNC. |
| 02:45.36 | grepper | snugglemonkey: so this error was from running 3.4.x ? |
| 02:45.41 | grepper | ie. cvs ? |
| 02:46.24 | snugglemonkey | grepper: It has been running cvs head for a few weeks now... without issue. This is sudden. |
| 02:46.46 | snugglemonkey | grepper: it went down for removal of the sound card, and after reboot, this was noticed. |
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| 02:47.11 | snugglemonkey | grepper: nothing looks messed up in the xorg.conf file at all. |
| 02:47.11 | MANOWAR^ | what config file controls the global anti-aliasing? |
| 02:54.00 | grepper | hm, I would guess ~/.qt/qtrc |
| 02:58.42 | grepper | useXft=true |
| 02:58.44 | MANOWAR^ | I don't see anything in there |
| 02:59.01 | MANOWAR^ | ah |
| 02:59.05 | MANOWAR^ | I see that |
| 02:59.11 | MANOWAR^ | thank you |
| 02:59.17 | grepper | np |
| 02:59.22 | MANOWAR^ | been beating my head for the past day trying to get that working |
| 02:59.47 | grepper | it doesn't work from kcontrol ? |
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| 03:02.25 | grepper | strange, I don't see the option in qtconfig anymore |
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| 03:11.53 | chealer | hi, is KDE 3.3 supposed to guess the right keyboard model? or is that distro-specific?... |
| 03:12.55 | mobtek | x specific |
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| 03:14.12 | chealer | ok, thanks a lot |
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| 03:16.24 | slayerbob | :D |
| 03:16.36 | slayerbob | finally got me notebook screen working again :P |
| 03:16.36 | slayerbob | stupid thing :P |
| 03:17.21 | slayerbob | agrh |
| 03:17.25 | slayerbob | spoke too soon :( |
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| 03:37.55 | mankeletor | what's the compilation order of these packages? |
| 03:37.57 | mankeletor | arts-1.3.91.tar.bz2 kdebase-3.3.91.tar.bz2 kdelibs-3.3.91.tar.bz2 |
| 03:38.35 | grepper | arts->kdelibs->kdebase |
| 03:38.41 | grepper | assuming qt is already done |
| 03:38.53 | mankeletor | oops |
| 03:39.28 | mankeletor | qt is needed for that? |
| 03:39.40 | grepper | I just use my distro's binaries for qt |
| 03:40.04 | mankeletor | what's your distro? |
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| 03:40.52 | mankeletor | grepper? |
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| 03:42.02 | bhearsum | can k3b do data verification? |
| 03:42.08 | grepper | mankeletor: debian |
| 03:42.17 | grepper | sid |
| 03:42.25 | mankeletor | grepper: cool |
| 03:42.56 | gregday | so ...systempreferences... |
| 03:43.19 | grepper | qt 3.3.3-8 |
| 03:43.39 | mankeletor | grepper: mine is slack10 |
| 03:43.58 | grepper | I don't know what qt slack10 uses |
| 03:44.25 | grepper | kde-config --version should tell you , if you have kde installed already |
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| 03:46.31 | slackd00d | slackware 10 uses 3.3.2 |
| 03:46.53 | mankeletor | exactly |
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| 03:48.15 | mankeletor | grepper: need I more packages that i show you? |
| 03:48.56 | grepper | mankeletor: I would think 3.3.2 would be ok for HEAD |
| 03:49.09 | grepper | not positive though |
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| 03:49.24 | Eagle101 | help. In kde, any sound file that i play, the sound skips...i am using Alsa, and artsd is disabled...please help |
| 03:49.45 | grepper | if artsd is disabled, why are you asking here ? |
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| 03:50.14 | Eagle101 | grepper: just so you can ask why |
| 03:50.26 | grepper | why, why oh why ? |
| 03:55.07 | arrummzen | Does the sun rise at 2:56PM in california? |
| 03:56.49 | mattr | depends on what time zone 2:56PM is in... |
| 03:57.46 | arrummzen | Well kweather is telling me - the sun rises at 2:58 and sets at 7:00 PM, 7:00 sounds about right, but I seem to have seen the sun before noon, around 9:00 am ... |
| 03:59.00 | illogic-al | is there any way that i can use cvs in windows? |
| 03:59.09 | mattr | illogic-al: yes, there's a window cvs client |
| 03:59.13 | mattr | wincvs |
| 03:59.40 | illogic-al | mattr: thanks. |
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| 04:07.17 | mankeletor | can anybody understand me? (my english is not good) |
| 04:08.16 | gregday | i can |
| 04:08.28 | mankeletor | ok, which are all the packages that I need to install kde? |
| 04:09.31 | snugglemonkey | arts, kdelib, kdebase (for minimum) |
| 04:10.45 | null | mankeletor lookey http://developer.kde.org everything there :-) |
| 04:11.05 | mankeletor | ok |
| 04:11.13 | null | heya snugglemonkey when are packages of next beta out ? |
| 04:11.57 | snugglemonkey | null: I am not sure. Beta one just came out, so I imagine it will be a bit. |
| 04:12.23 | mattr | we're frozen for beta 2 right now |
| 04:12.27 | snugglemonkey | I believe they have scheule up at the link you sent a few lines back. |
| 04:12.34 | mattr | expect source tarballs in about 10 days |
| 04:12.34 | null | eh, da kde map says beta 2 should be out soon |
| 04:12.51 | snugglemonkey | mattr: do you think it is ready? |
| 04:12.58 | null | ahh 10 days, grr right in time for my supervisor to arrive grrr... |
| 04:13.20 | mattr | snugglemonkey: do i think what is ready? |
| 04:13.52 | snugglemonkey | KDE 3.4 beta 2 |
| 04:13.56 | slackd00d | feb 2 |
| 04:14.10 | slackd00d | 4th io mean |
| 04:14.31 | mattr | snugglemonkey: either way, it's going out |
| 04:15.25 | snugglemonkey | :) |
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| 04:19.15 | tchino | oh, i caN#t remove resize my programm windows under kde, what is wrong |
| 04:20.03 | illogic-al | oh fark it. |
| 04:21.02 | slackd00d | has oneone tried the themeable kdm in beta1...or is it even there? |
| 04:21.05 | null | ohh yeah general question, was do u guys do at work when really tired ? eg. coffee, nap... ?? |
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| 04:25.16 | slayerbob | null: fall asleep with head on keyboard |
| 04:25.51 | null | hmm head hurts with Head on keyboard!! |
| 04:26.04 | slayerbob | null: buy a software keyboard :) |
| 04:26.23 | null | bah, i am looking for real world solutions!!! |
| 04:26.39 | slayerbob | put a pillow on the keyboard before falling asleep ? |
| 04:26.58 | null | hmm but office no pillow |
| 04:27.33 | null | kofee sont seem to help ne more |
| 04:28.13 | sycofly | omg .. sound is back .. yeehaa |
| 04:28.40 | sycofly | yeah baby |
| 04:29.26 | mankeletor | if I install the new version of kde, it eliminates the previous one? |
| 04:30.02 | slackd00d | mankeletor: what distro? |
| 04:31.29 | mankeletor | slack10 |
| 04:32.17 | slackd00d | yes |
| 04:32.42 | slackd00d | but it will save your .kde directory...so your personal settings will stay there |
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| 04:34.53 | mankeletor | but I have kslash only in this folder |
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| 04:35.44 | mankeletor | I must to be a backup of that and done |
| 04:37.42 | tchino | oh, i can't remove or resize my programm windows under kde, what is wrong |
| 04:37.59 | sycofly | whats the path to kde icons |
| 04:38.29 | mankeletor | ~/.kde/share/apps/icons? |
| 04:38.43 | sycofly | hehe |
| 04:38.46 | sycofly | thx boss |
| 04:39.38 | sycofly | version 3.3.2 |
| 04:40.10 | mankeletor | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:40.56 | mankeletor | that folder contains the global icons ;) |
| 04:41.31 | sycofly | thats where im heading |
| 04:41.47 | sycofly | some one hold my hand .. i've never been there |
| 04:45.20 | slackd00d | why do you want to backup the global icon directory? |
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| 04:47.06 | mankeletor | slackd00d: me? |
| 04:51.22 | mankeletor | slackd00d: I must install 3.3.91 in/op/kde or in another directory? |
| 04:51.34 | mankeletor | what do u think? |
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| 05:01.35 | mankeletor | what anybody think? |
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| 05:19.18 | [sLiM] | hi all |
| 05:21.35 | [sLiM] | how do i change the login manager setup? |
| 05:23.30 | aseigo | [sLiM]: go into the control center, System Admin, login manager |
| 05:25.14 | [sLiM] | thanks, are there themes like in gdm? |
| 05:29.13 | aseigo | in 3.4 |
| 05:29.34 | [sLiM] | oh |
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| 06:00.30 | sycofly | im about to install a packaged theme .. what would the "kde-config--prefix" be for slackware10 ?? |
| 06:01.03 | sycofly | /opt/kde/share/config |
| 06:01.07 | sycofly | ? |
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| 06:03.56 | Venson | sycofly: just type "kde-config --prefix" ....should tell you |
| 06:04.10 | sycofly | ok .. sounds good |
| 06:05.26 | sycofly | answer >> /opt/kde |
| 06:05.30 | sycofly | hehe thx |
| 06:06.00 | Venson | right |
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| 06:09.32 | Dhraakellian | oh, hey, beta2 is due out tomorrow? |
| 06:09.34 | [sLiM] | is there any know repositories with kde 3.4.1? |
| 06:09.47 | Dhraakellian | [sLiM]: |
| 06:09.48 | Dhraakellian | no |
| 06:10.01 | Dhraakellian | 3.3.91, maybe |
| 06:10.06 | Dhraakellian | !;) |
| 06:10.13 | Venson | beta1 yeah |
| 06:10.17 | [sLiM] | lol isnt that the same thing? |
| 06:10.24 | Dhraakellian | not really |
| 06:10.34 | [sLiM] | Venson, where? |
| 06:10.42 | [sLiM] | Dhraakellian, oh i thought it was |
| 06:10.43 | Dhraakellian | 3.4.1 = first maintainance release of the 3.4.x series |
| 06:10.43 | Venson | 3.4.1 is a maintenence release, [sLiM] |
| 06:10.58 | Dhraakellian | 3.4 beta1 = 3.3.91 |
| 06:11.11 | coolangot | hello, got some problem with kdm: I upgraded from kernel 2.4.21 to 2.6.10 and kdm cannot log in here is the error message: Feb 4 14:06:09 libranet kernel: atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program, like XFree86, might be trying access hardware directly.Feb 4 14:06:09 libranet kernel: atkbd.c: Spurious ACK on isa0060/serio0. Some program, like XFree86, might be trying access hardware directly.Feb 4 14:06:09 libranet input.agent[2541]: evdev: |
| 06:11.22 | coolangot | any ideas? |
| 06:11.42 | [sLiM] | oh ok |
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| 06:28.30 | f00f | hello :) |
| 06:28.35 | aseigo | hello |
| 06:28.41 | f00f | can i make KDM execute a command when it loads? |
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| 06:29.52 | jin | f00f , i think there is a folder call autostart in /home/yourname/.kde |
| 06:30.13 | jin | f00f you can have a symlink there it will start when you start kde |
| 06:30.24 | Lucar | how to make a basica installation of kde without extras? |
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| 06:31.25 | f00f | jin, :( |
| 06:31.45 | f00f | it loads a keymap that i need for my keyboard with xmodmap |
| 06:32.19 | f00f | so i need it to be loaded before i attempt to login |
| 06:33.12 | aseigo | not quite.. |
| 06:33.30 | aseigo | if you are using kde 3.3 or above you can put a script in ~/.kde/env |
| 06:33.50 | aseigo | any executable in that directory gets loaded after login but before the desktop starts.. |
| 06:34.06 | aseigo | so... between kdm and the desktop |
| 06:34.10 | aseigo | try it out =) |
| 06:34.21 | Lucar | I am of Brazil forgives for the English of the altavista |
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| 06:34.54 | grepper | ah, aseigo |
| 06:35.06 | aseigo | ah, grepper |
| 06:35.14 | grepper | aseigo: how do you use distcc or icecream with rpmbuild ? |
| 06:35.27 | grepper | just edit the spec, or is there a better way |
| 06:35.30 | aseigo | Lucar: just install arts, qt, kdelibs and kdebase |
| 06:35.46 | aseigo | Lucar: that's the basic KDE without most of the applications and none of the extras |
| 06:35.58 | Lucar | Yes |
| 06:36.07 | aseigo | grepper: hrm... does it have a hard coded path to gcc in it? |
| 06:36.08 | f00f | aseigo, well.. kdm is open source |
| 06:36.12 | grepper | google is silent - there seem to be no suse users who do distributed rpm builds . . . |
| 06:36.16 | aseigo | f00f: hrm? |
| 06:36.17 | f00f | so i could just add a system() call in main() lol |
| 06:36.33 | aseigo | f00f: have you tried putting a script in `kde-config --localprefix`/env/? |
| 06:36.46 | f00f | aseigo, hold up |
| 06:36.49 | grepper | I see the guy who did the updates uses unsermake by default, so I am half way there |
| 06:37.22 | aseigo | =) |
| 06:37.32 | aseigo | grepper: again, is the path to gcc hardcoded in there? |
| 06:37.38 | grepper | sec |
| 06:38.01 | Dhraakellian | so 3.4 beta2 is due to be sent to packagers tomorrow/today? |
| 06:38.08 | aseigo | grepper: because if not, then as long as the PATH used in the environment to do the build has the distcc/icecream gcc bin in it first, it should work |
| 06:38.11 | aseigo | Dhraakellian: yes |
| 06:38.39 | Dhraakellian | and what does that mean as far as non-cvs users are concerned? |
| 06:39.56 | aseigo | ... that they'll have a slightly newer snapshot to play with? |
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| 06:40.51 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 06:41.48 | grepper | hm, looks like I need to make a masked directory |
| 06:41.59 | grepper | no, doesn't seem to be hard coded |
| 06:42.06 | grepper | make %{?jobs:-j%jobs} compile |
| 06:42.26 | grepper | looks like there is a mechanism for jobs built in there already |
| 06:43.55 | grepper | compiling arts fixed* the system sound problem sort of, but now knotify crashes |
| 06:44.02 | grepper | so I am moving on the kdelibs |
| 06:44.14 | grepper | s/on the / on to/ |
| 06:44.45 | mattr | ooh, that's cool. konsole in kde 3.4 beta 1 will open a new tab if you double click on the tab bar |
| 06:45.48 | mattr | hmm, emerge, or cvs rebuild tonight? |
| 06:46.21 | grepper | hm, that's how I rename the tabs |
| 06:46.59 | mattr | you rename the tabs if you double-click on a tab |
| 06:47.06 | mattr | but if you don't double-click on a tab, then you get a new tab |
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| 06:47.58 | jadrian | it would be nice if Konqueror had an "access keys" presence indicator |
| 06:48.17 | jadrian | just like the rss one etc |
| 06:48.24 | mattr | ahh, if a site had access keys? |
| 06:48.30 | jadrian | yeap |
| 06:48.42 | mattr | hadn't thought of that before |
| 06:48.45 | jadrian | that way we'd now if a site had them available or not |
| 06:48.47 | mattr | bedtime now though |
| 06:49.10 | jadrian | also people that don't know waht access keys are could click the symbol and learn about them it |
| 06:49.27 | jadrian | (how to activate them) |
| 06:50.12 | grepper | ah, tab bar |
| 06:50.43 | jadrian | under which app should this wish go |
| 06:50.45 | jadrian | konqueror/? |
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| 06:52.21 | aseigo | yes, that'd be konqueror |
| 06:52.38 | aseigo | check for dupes, of course =) |
| 06:53.04 | mattr | it's sad that debian is such a slow distribution... |
| 06:53.31 | Dhraakellian | mattr: what about testing or unstable? |
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| 06:53.42 | mattr | Dhraakellian: the server was on testing, and it was still slow |
| 06:53.52 | Dhraakellian | heh |
| 06:54.38 | mattr | the workstation is on gentoo, and the server is on archlinux |
| 06:55.49 | mattr | anyways, need sleep |
| 06:57.02 | f00f | Dhraakellian, youre on gentoo eh |
| 06:57.03 | f00f | GOOD |
| 06:57.13 | f00f | that means you can help me! |
| 06:57.30 | Dhraakellian | oh, does it? |
| 06:58.02 | f00f | yes.. got kdevelop? |
| 06:58.08 | Dhraakellian | yeah |
| 06:58.11 | f00f | ok coolr |
| 06:58.13 | f00f | *cool |
| 06:58.15 | f00f | KDE 3.3? |
| 06:58.17 | Dhraakellian | haven't really used it in ages |
| 06:58.20 | Dhraakellian | 3.4 beta1 |
| 06:58.25 | f00f | still ok |
| 06:59.04 | Dhraakellian | what do you need? |
| 06:59.26 | slayerbob | more vodka is what i need :) |
| 06:59.40 | f00f | alright.. create a new Simple designer based KDE app |
| 06:59.53 | Dhraakellian | slayerbob: sorry, but beer for the amaroK devs is a higher priority |
| 07:00.06 | f00f | then go into the designer mode (open the .ui file) and add a KURLRequester and try to build |
| 07:00.09 | f00f | it wont let me link |
| 07:00.32 | Dhraakellian | I never really did any stuff with guis either |
| 07:01.21 | f00f | for me it REFUSES to linrk |
| 07:01.23 | f00f | *link |
| 07:01.28 | f00f | and i have no clue as to why |
| 07:01.38 | aseigo | what's the error? |
| 07:01.51 | jadrian | aseigo: done, no dupes as far as I could tell: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=98546 |
| 07:03.58 | slayerbob | oh hiya aseigo |
| 07:04.02 | slayerbob | how goes your day ? |
| 07:04.04 | aseigo | slayerbob: heya ... |
| 07:04.07 | aseigo | long. over. |
| 07:04.11 | slayerbob | :P |
| 07:04.14 | slayerbob | best type :) |
| 07:04.33 | aseigo | had fun screwing around with klink today, though |
| 07:04.36 | slayerbob | i thought freezes were just slushy to you :P |
| 07:05.10 | aseigo | i speak a good game. |
| 07:05.28 | slayerbob | i only just got around to installing vnc on all the machines in my internet cafe to avoid having to spend 5 hours driving there and another 5 back |
| 07:05.29 | aseigo | but really, i only break the rules when it benefits me. ;-) |
| 07:05.36 | slayerbob | after 4 years of operation :P |
| 07:05.36 | aseigo | lol |
| 07:05.37 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 07:05.47 | slayerbob | i break the rules as a matter of principle |
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| 07:08.17 | slayerbob | :P |
| 07:09.17 | aseigo | no. they are my sites. fuck off. ;-) |
| 07:09.35 | aseigo | http://www.overheardinnewyork.com and http://www.compfused.com |
| 07:09.39 | slayerbob | awww :( |
| 07:09.40 | slayerbob | :D |
| 07:09.52 | slayerbob | no kidding :P |
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| 07:23.18 | chugga | http://www.ferventsoftware.com/images/stg-tour/snow-example.png |
| 07:23.25 | chugga | how do i get my deskoplooking like this |
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| 07:27.03 | Dhraakellian | looks like fairly basic default look and feel |
| 07:27.17 | chugga | look at the window |
| 07:27.23 | chugga | it looks no nice |
| 07:29.14 | Dhraakellian | it loks like plastik to me |
| 07:29.34 | chugga | thats what i thought |
| 07:29.39 | chugga | but i've got plastik now |
| 07:29.42 | chugga | and it looks crap |
| 07:31.21 | Dhraakellian | different color scheme? |
| 07:31.24 | Dhraakellian | icon set? |
| 07:33.19 | chugga | i think i have to play witth colours |
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| 07:46.54 | slayerbob | :o |
| 07:47.24 | canllaith | ullo there cuteness :p |
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| 07:47.32 | slayerbob | ullo :) |
| 07:55.45 | slayerbob | aseigo: sort of like a real life bash that site is :P |
| 07:56.10 | aseigo | yerp |
| 07:56.34 | aseigo | on the second site... compu-whatever. .check the video section.. lots of amazing vids.. the star wars one is especially brilliant. |
| 07:56.46 | slayerbob | have not got up to that one yet |
| 07:56.53 | slayerbob | was interrupted by free food :P |
| 07:58.55 | aseigo | http://www.compfused.com/directlink/610/ <--hehehe |
| 07:59.21 | canllaith | oh this is a laugh http://www.divisiontwo.com/articles/mcse2.htm |
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| 08:01.02 | aseigo | ahahahaha... "we are extremely excited about the Windows Media Player 10 beta that comes integrated with Advanced Server 2003" |
| 08:01.19 | aseigo | 'Windows XP features the dependable DRM features home users demand (keeps you from getting sued!)' wow |
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| 08:03.13 | aseigo | canllaith: have you seen www.blackpeopleloveus.com? |
| 08:03.22 | aseigo | slayerbob too for that matter |
| 08:03.25 | canllaith | mmm no |
| 08:03.30 | canllaith | and yeah I thought you'd enjoy that :) |
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| 08:04.55 | aseigo | the satire reminded me of it |
| 08:12.21 | slayerbob | sorry was talking to my brother |
| 08:12.26 | slayerbob | missed all the sites :( |
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| 08:12.40 | canllaith | :) have you heard from doris on the chat ? |
| 08:12.47 | aseigo | no |
| 08:12.56 | aseigo | oh. that was probably for slayerbob. |
| 08:12.58 | aseigo | ;) |
| 08:12.59 | slayerbob | lol |
| 08:13.03 | slayerbob | occasionally |
| 08:13.09 | slayerbob | was talking to her before dinner |
| 08:13.23 | canllaith | cool :) Does she sound terribly grumpy with us? |
| 08:16.09 | canllaith | Just she seemed a big grumpy when she left lol |
| 08:16.21 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 08:16.30 | slayerbob | i doubt that she is even remotely grumpy with us |
| 08:16.34 | slayerbob | i mean... why would she be ? |
| 08:16.35 | slayerbob | :D |
| 08:16.41 | canllaith | lol :P |
| 08:17.02 | slayerbob | isn't she on your messenger too ? |
| 08:17.12 | sagge^^ | where can i find what dcop-oject i can use with kopete? |
| 08:17.17 | sagge^^ | object* |
| 08:18.52 | slayerbob | bahahahahahaha |
| 08:18.58 | slayerbob | "Linux zealots will try to say that their platform isn't plagued by things like email viruses, but with Windows XP I don't gotta worry about emailing viruses to my friends and family at all. The built-in email client Outlook Express does it automatically, in the background. " |
| 08:19.12 | slayerbob | sorry... /me is just catching up :P |
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| 08:37.53 | slayerbob | wb canllaith |
| 08:38.06 | canllaith | ty |
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| 09:01.41 | [Aura]kingwanja | hi there , is there a way for me to create a command in konversation ? |
| 09:02.52 | [Aura]kingwanja | for example in irc.etg.com , I want to create the command /server -m irc.freenode.net |
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| 09:09.39 | mobtek | File -> Server List -> highlight the server -> edit -> and put the command in the Commands box |
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| 09:20.11 | [Aura]kingwanja | mobtek: i dont have a command box in edit , just channel name |
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| 09:39.40 | slayerbob | hiya sredna :) |
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| 09:46.36 | sredna | Hi slayerbob |
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| 09:49.19 | mobtek | [Aura]kingwanja: konvi 0.14? if so update to the new version |
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| 09:51.16 | Akbar | is it possible to turn off the '<nick> has left the chat' messages in kopete? |
| 09:52.02 | canllaith | Hey there sredna :) |
| 09:52.12 | sredna | Hi canllaith :) |
| 09:52.50 | canllaith | how are you? :) |
| 09:53.08 | slayerbob | :D |
| 09:53.30 | sredna | Fine thanks |
| 09:53.51 | sredna | I went and saw my niece in the mucisal HAIR last night |
| 09:53.55 | sredna | Which was fun |
| 09:54.10 | canllaith | ah nice :) How old is your niece? |
| 09:54.15 | sredna | 16 |
| 09:54.25 | canllaith | :) |
| 09:55.06 | sredna | Shes at a border school this year, and they spent 5 weeks all togeather putting up the musical |
| 09:57.05 | sredna | How are you in nz? |
| 09:58.00 | canllaith | Pretty good :) |
| 09:58.21 | canllaith | Went to a camp today on a remote farm where the local gliding club are having their annual camp thing |
| 09:58.42 | canllaith | Was watching one of the guys do these low (one meter or so) fast passes (250kph) along the runway |
| 09:58.47 | canllaith | then zoom back up again, turn around for another pass |
| 09:59.15 | slayerbob | did you manage to find some batteries for your camera ? |
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| 10:00.39 | canllaith | aye |
| 10:00.50 | sredna | Would you try if you got the offer (gliding)? |
| 10:00.52 | canllaith | although it was not on me when this guy was showing off |
| 10:00.56 | canllaith | sredna, I already have :) |
| 10:01.01 | canllaith | I was airsick! :'( |
| 10:01.02 | sredna | Ah, is it fun? |
| 10:01.08 | canllaith | and we had to come down almost straight away because I was sick :( |
| 10:01.09 | sredna | Oh .. |
| 10:03.16 | slayerbob | hmmm |
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| 10:03.25 | slayerbob | i am getting an error from the squid name server |
| 10:03.29 | slayerbob | i wonder what one it uses :S |
| 10:03.59 | [Aura]kingwanja | wow gliding sounds like fun |
| 10:07.57 | [Aura]kingwanja | canllaith: my new piece of high tech sunny colour style ... http://homepage.ntlworld.com/wanja/Sunshine_WPblack.jpg |
| 10:08.10 | canllaith | gliding is heaps of fun |
| 10:08.21 | canllaith | but not so much fun after a hot chocolate when I have an intolerance to milk |
| 10:08.31 | canllaith | slayerbob, today I have had a teeny amount of cheese and that is it, and I feel great |
| 10:08.44 | slayerbob | :D |
| 10:08.45 | canllaith | yesterday almost as soon as I started chowing down on cream cheese I was sick as a dog |
| 10:08.51 | canllaith | So I guess we've narrowed it down |
| 10:09.03 | willwork4foo | lo folks |
| 10:09.10 | canllaith | ullo there you |
| 10:09.40 | [Aura]kingwanja | kites are fun to fly but actually being on a kite .. omg , i want to do it |
| 10:09.41 | willwork4foo | greetings and stuffs. I am now furtling with KDE 3.4 beta 1, and it's more fun than being tickled with a feather. |
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| 10:10.31 | willwork4foo | :( |
| 10:10.49 | [Aura]kingwanja | i would like to try beta 1 put with my linux skills , i cant install a damn thing |
| 10:10.53 | canllaith | but I think you have already seen them all |
| 10:11.37 | willwork4foo | yep I have. and each one makes me jealous... |
| 10:11.40 | willwork4foo | damn it. |
| 10:12.05 | willwork4foo | and KDE is possibly the shiniest linux thingie |
| 10:12.05 | canllaith | wait till you see our spiffy new feature guide |
| 10:12.12 | canllaith | hehehe |
| 10:12.18 | canllaith | when it's finished. |
| 10:12.26 | willwork4foo | there are other shiny linux thingies. but KDE is shinier. |
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| 10:13.00 | willwork4foo | although I sodding wish I could get my f&*^"£$T*(*&^&"%&&("£$ing bluetooth dongle to work on this god-forsaken linux laptop </frustration> |
| 10:13.23 | willwork4foo | lol |
| 10:13.24 | [Aura]kingwanja | im a good bug dectector ()))): ------- @..@ |
| 10:13.28 | canllaith | I don't have bluetooth I'm afraid so I have never had to get it working. |
| 10:13.37 | willwork4foo | [Aura]kingwanja: ever played with bluetooth dongles? |
| 10:13.51 | [Aura]kingwanja | i havnt |
| 10:14.04 | willwork4foo | then you're less use to me than a wet fart in a thunderstorm. |
| 10:14.11 | willwork4foo | :) |
| 10:14.36 | [Aura]kingwanja | lol |
| 10:16.04 | [Aura]kingwanja | in fact i was at my neighbours house trying to fix their wifi laptop as it couldnt connect to the net ... -_- i couldnt connect , i tried the everything |
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| 10:28.04 | slayerbob | so did you solve the problem in the end [Aura]kingwanja ? |
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| 10:32.25 | slayerbob | er yeah |
| 10:35.30 | [Aura]kingwanja | no i didnt , i really dont know why the internet would not work , it was connecting to the router but i just couldnt get it to happen |
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| 10:35.50 | slayerbob | did you have a default route ? |
| 10:37.31 | [Aura]kingwanja | it was working last week when i set it up , yes everything i did was by the book |
| 10:38.09 | [Aura]kingwanja | its something to do with the pc |
| 10:38.17 | [Aura]kingwanja | i was just watching de la hoya v gatti |
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| 10:53.23 | [Aura]kingwanja | when stuff is deleted , ive noticed it doesnt go into the waste bin , where does it go ? |
| 10:53.32 | canllaith | depends how you delete it |
| 10:53.45 | canllaith | if you use rm, it's gone vanished poof |
| 10:53.53 | canllaith | if you send it to the kde trash can then it goes to the trash can |
| 10:54.55 | [Aura]kingwanja | i just right clicked and deleted |
| 10:56.09 | [Aura]kingwanja | ok but should a trash can be stuff that is deleted ie delete should be a cut and paste |
| 10:57.41 | slayerbob | well when i delete something i want it gone |
| 10:57.45 | slayerbob | otherwise why would i delete it ? |
| 10:57.47 | [Aura]kingwanja | delete = cut and paste to trash can ; empty trash can is permanent delete |
| 10:57.54 | canllaith | that depends on whether you have 'delete bypassing trash' enabled |
| 10:58.14 | canllaith | there is a 'delete' option that deletes it immediately |
| 10:58.17 | canllaith | and a move to trash button |
| 10:58.20 | willwork4foo | yep |
| 10:58.28 | willwork4foo | tis in the kontrol centre |
| 10:58.38 | willwork4foo | I got bluetooth working! :):):) |
| 10:58.47 | willwork4foo | alls I gotta do now is make kde-bluetooth work nicely |
| 10:59.18 | [Aura]kingwanja | but think when you throw rubbish out it goes in the bin , sometimes the rubbish can be recycled and you want it back |
| 10:59.38 | slayerbob | [Aura]kingwanja: that is why there are both options |
| 10:59.53 | slayerbob | some people are silly and delete things that they did not mean to |
| 10:59.55 | slayerbob | others do not |
| 11:00.05 | willwork4foo | sadly, it seems that kde-bluetooth is only available in binary for three distros - debian, suse and gentoo. and the source tarball doesn't compile. |
| 11:00.08 | willwork4foo | feck. |
| 11:00.37 | canllaith | what happens when you try? |
| 11:01.05 | willwork4foo | it configures OK, then at some point during the make I get compile error - lemme retrace steps and get the error for ya |
| 11:01.31 | [Aura]kingwanja | by habit i press delete , i dont move stuff im thinking of deleting but its a different way to do things i guess . |
| 11:02.35 | canllaith | pressing delete should send it to the trashcan unless you've changed the defaults |
| 11:04.18 | [Aura]kingwanja | i havnt |
| 11:04.47 | [Aura]kingwanja | i have 3.2 so i dont know what the other versions do |
| 11:05.28 | willwork4foo | canllaith: I get this error: connectiondlg.cpp: In member function `void ConnectionDlg::updateRssi(int, |
| 11:05.28 | willwork4foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.28 | willwork4foo | connectiondlg.cpp:156: error: `GET_LINK_QUALITY_RP_SIZE' undeclared (first use |
| 11:05.28 | willwork4foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:06.05 | slayerbob | [Aura]kingwanja: when you say "press delete" do you mean "press the delete key" or "click on delete in the right-click menu" ? |
| 11:06.51 | [Aura]kingwanja | the latter |
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| 11:07.55 | [Aura]kingwanja | i know i have bad habits , i dont know how im going to break through with the terminals :( |
| 11:07.57 | ballfire | Hi |
| 11:07.59 | slayerbob | the will always delete it |
| 11:08.09 | slayerbob | if you want it to go to the trash, click on "move to trash" instead |
| 11:08.09 | canllaith | um |
| 11:08.16 | canllaith | that delete isn't in the menu by default, at least not anymore |
| 11:08.24 | ballfire | aseigo: are you there? |
| 11:08.26 | canllaith | why not just remove it from the menu if you want to use the trashcan? |
| 11:08.27 | canllaith | :) |
| 11:08.31 | slayerbob | :P |
| 11:09.08 | [Aura]kingwanja | canllaith: i keep things in the brand new way , i dont like taking things away . |
| 11:10.59 | [Aura]kingwanja | well its ok , im aware of it now , i know that the delete is going to fry and not move |
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| 11:12.43 | willwork4foo | gah |
| 11:13.08 | willwork4foo | would someone who is not behind corporate level security and a very paranoid web proxy give me a hand getting something off of CVS??? |
| 11:13.30 | willwork4foo | canllaith: got a second babe? :):):) |
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| 11:17.33 | willwork4foo | alternatively, does anyone know how to tell cvs to go through an http proxy? |
| 11:18.34 | fred87 | willwork4foo: yah... |
| 11:18.46 | willwork4foo | fred87: how do I do that... |
| 11:19.08 | willwork4foo | I'm trying to get kdeextragear and in particular kde-bluetooth from anoncvs.kde.org |
| 11:19.16 | fred87 | install squid locally, set it up for transparent proxying, and relaying through your real proxy, recompile kernel with "nat of local connections", iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp -m tcp --dport 80 -j DNAT --to 127.0.0.0:3128 |
| 11:19.38 | fred87 | hmm actually, you might need to chuck in httptunnel into the mix as well |
| 11:19.43 | willwork4foo | argh |
| 11:19.50 | willwork4foo | sounds overcomplicated just to use CVS once |
| 11:19.56 | fred87 | :D |
| 11:20.31 | willwork4foo | can someone out there who has a website they own do me a gigantic favour? |
| 11:20.43 | fred87 | yah, i'll make you a handy tarball... |
| 11:20.51 | willwork4foo | thanks man |
| 11:20.54 | willwork4foo | you know where to get it? |
| 11:21.04 | fred87 | yah... |
| 11:21.12 | fred87 | hmm actually i guess i shouldn't use my account... |
| 11:21.38 | willwork4foo | lol |
| 11:22.21 | fred87 | which kdeextragear? |
| 11:22.25 | fred87 | -1,-2,-3? |
| 11:22.56 | fred87 | -3... |
| 11:23.00 | willwork4foo | the latest one |
| 11:23.29 | fred87 | can i assume you have kde-common/admin handy? |
| 11:24.57 | willwork4foo | how can I check? |
| 11:25.18 | canllaith | you'd know if you'd checked it out lol |
| 11:25.30 | willwork4foo | oh, |
| 11:25.37 | willwork4foo | I've never used CVS before for KDE. |
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| 11:28.59 | Oleg_ | yo |
| 11:29.05 | Oleg_ | whassup homies |
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| 11:30.57 | Oleg_ | canllaith? |
| 11:31.03 | Oleg_ | slayerbob? |
| 11:31.18 | willwork4foo | things are deathly quiet... |
| 11:31.32 | Oleg_ | yeah |
| 11:33.22 | mustasj | I'm very busy organizing my ogg collection , found a nice mp3toogg app :) |
| 11:33.45 | willwork4foo | http://sourceforge.net/projects/mp3toogg/ by any chance? |
| 11:33.52 | mustasj | correct |
| 11:34.54 | Oleg_ | aseigo? |
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| 11:35.05 | Oleg_ | aseigo, buddy, are you here? |
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| 11:38.29 | willwork4foo | anyone there? |
| 11:38.36 | willwork4foo | suddenly everyone's gone silent... |
| 11:42.15 | Oleg_ | I am thinking about my first love Irene Betser. |
| 11:42.23 | Oleg_ | she was so good |
| 11:42.45 | Oleg_ | so good |
| 11:43.02 | Oleg_ | Irene is THE name |
| 11:43.13 | Oleg_ | BETSER is THE last name |
| 11:43.20 | willwork4foo | Oleg_: riiiight.... |
| 11:43.30 | Oleg_ | aren't they beautiful? |
| 11:43.39 | Oleg_ | Her first name is beautiful |
| 11:43.55 | Oleg_ | her last name is beautiful |
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| 11:46.16 | mobtek | Oleg_ needs to meet new women :) |
| 11:46.26 | willwork4foo | mobtek: agreed |
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| 11:47.23 | dpy | hi |
| 11:47.30 | slayerbob | hi |
| 11:47.43 | dpy | does anyone know how to execute commands with konsole through DCOP ? |
| 11:47.52 | dpy | I am missing some sort of exec command |
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| 11:48.10 | Noldo | Oleg_: is that from a movie or something ? |
| 11:48.44 | willwork4foo | can someone (anyone) please do me one tiny favour and get hold of kde-common from the KDE CVS for me? I can't reach the CVS because I'm behind a dirty great big proxy at Sun |
| 11:48.59 | willwork4foo | please - I kinda need it to be able to do something vaguely useful |
| 11:49.02 | slayerbob | sun blocks the kde cvs ? |
| 11:49.05 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 11:49.30 | slayerbob | are they trying to lose the desktop market or something ? |
| 11:49.30 | willwork4foo | slayerbob: it's not that. I'm behind an http proxy and I can't get my cvs to connect to the kde cvs |
| 11:49.38 | willwork4foo | slayerbob: no, it's nothing like that. |
| 11:50.37 | willwork4foo | slayerbob: I need kde-common so I can make kde-bluetooth work. |
| 11:51.33 | willwork4foo | slayerbob: any chance you could help me out there? |
| 11:52.46 | slayerbob | i do not have a cvs account sorry |
| 11:53.03 | willwork4foo | slayerbob: you don't need one. it's anonymous CVS./ |
| 11:53.10 | willwork4foo | http://kde-bluetooth.sourceforge.net/ |
| 11:53.26 | willwork4foo | look at "downloads", and hit "next" twice - that takes you to the CVS thing |
| 11:53.57 | willwork4foo | I've got kdeextragear-3 because fred87 tarred it up for me and put it on his webserver. but he's dissappeared now and I need kde-common |
| 11:54.20 | slayerbob | sounds a bit too complicated for me |
| 11:54.30 | dpy | anyone here on the latest kde ? |
| 11:54.41 | willwork4foo | dpy: I'm using KDE 3.4 beta 1 |
| 11:54.49 | willwork4foo | beta 2 will be out soon |
| 11:55.06 | dpy | willwork4foo: kan you please type something for me in a konsole ? |
| 11:55.09 | willwork4foo | what |
| 11:55.26 | willwork4foo | dpy: go ahead |
| 11:55.45 | dpy | dcop ${KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION} | grep send |
| 11:56.00 | willwork4foo | bash-3.00$ dcop ${KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION} | grep send |
| 11:56.01 | willwork4foo | bash-3.00$ |
| 11:56.03 | dpy | is there some output ? |
| 11:56.07 | willwork4foo | nothing. |
| 11:56.09 | dpy | I don't get it |
| 11:56.42 | dpy | http://people.fruitsalad.org/phil/kde/userguide-tng/kde-diy.html |
| 11:56.43 | dpy | here |
| 11:56.49 | dpy | it says clearly sendSession |
| 11:56.57 | dpy | how else am I going to execute some commands |
| 11:58.08 | Renze | renze:~> dcop $KONSOLE_DCOP_SESSION | grep send |
| 11:58.08 | Renze | bool sendSignal(int signal) |
| 11:58.29 | willwork4foo | hey Renze - got a minute? can you do me a big favour? |
| 11:58.41 | dpy | yes |
| 11:58.44 | dpy | sendSignal |
| 11:58.47 | dpy | but that's not the same |
| 11:58.48 | Renze | willwork4foo: sorry, my bandwidth limit for the month is running horribly low |
| 11:58.53 | willwork4foo | Renze: poo. |
| 11:58.56 | willwork4foo | thanks anyway |
| 11:58.57 | dpy | I need sendSession to execute something |
| 11:59.03 | willwork4foo | thanks |
| 11:59.35 | slayerbob | hmmm |
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| 11:59.54 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: Andrew! |
| 12:00.28 | slayerbob | gosh kde-common tars up to something small |
| 12:00.33 | slayerbob | only 237kB |
| 12:00.35 | Oleg_ | Noldo: she was a real person, not in a movie |
| 12:00.36 | dpy | does anybody know what's going on ? |
| 12:00.46 | slayerbob | dpy: with what ? |
| 12:00.50 | Oleg_ | Noldo: I met her while in high school |
| 12:00.50 | dpy | is that function removed from konsole's dcop interface |
| 12:01.02 | dpy | sendSession seems to have disappeared |
| 12:01.18 | Renze | dpy: kdcop is your friend |
| 12:01.24 | slayerbob | hmmm |
| 12:01.34 | slayerbob | did willwork leave... ? |
| 12:01.41 | slayerbob | tab completion is not working in any case :S |
| 12:02.08 | dpy | Renze: kdcop does not tell me more than dcop does |
| 12:02.14 | dpy | it's more point and click |
| 12:02.34 | dpy | besides shell is better: for object in `dcop konsole-4298` ; do dcop konsole-4298 ${object} ; done | grep send |
| 12:02.35 | Renze | dpy: it at least allows you to browse the available functions |
| 12:02.38 | dpy | try to do that in kdcop |
| 12:02.39 | dpy | :) |
| 12:03.05 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: hi |
| 12:03.17 | Renze | dpy: if the function isn't there, it must have been removed for some reason |
| 12:03.29 | Renze | dpy: are the docs you're following up-to-date? |
| 12:03.34 | dpy | it makes the konsole interface rather useless |
| 12:03.45 | dpy | they're new |
| 12:04.01 | dpy | old konsole doesn't set KONSOLE_DCOP_* variables |
| 12:04.01 | Renze | file a bug report? |
| 12:04.20 | dpy | possible |
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| 12:06.40 | hellz_hunter | anyone have an idea of a kde-based cd ripper? |
| 12:07.05 | Renze | audiocd:/ ioslave, kaudiocreator, k3b... to name three |
| 12:07.07 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: are you angry at me for some reason? :) |
| 12:07.14 | hellz_hunter | oh k3b rips cds? |
| 12:07.17 | Renze | yes |
| 12:07.35 | hellz_hunter | huh, thx :) |
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| 12:10.40 | dpy | I have found here a 3-mar-2003 mail that uses it |
| 12:10.52 | dpy | and I have found a 1 feb 2005 mail that also uses sendSession |
| 12:12.08 | ralf | Hi! |
| 12:12.18 | Noldo | Oleg_: it just somehow sounded familiar |
| 12:14.10 | sarah03 | dpy: Konsole's 'sendSession(QString)' and 'feedSession(QString)' functions are disabled if you don't have it starting with '--script'. |
| 12:14.22 | dpy | yes |
| 12:14.29 | dpy | sarah03: I beat you to it |
| 12:14.36 | dpy | just about 10 seconds |
| 12:14.50 | dpy | I just started konsole --script and checked for the function |
| 12:14.52 | sarah03 | I just found it myself. |
| 12:14.53 | dpy | then I looked at xchat |
| 12:14.59 | dpy | and so you're message |
| 12:15.00 | dpy | :) |
| 12:15.13 | dpy | you're=your |
| 12:15.19 | dpy | oh lol |
| 12:15.49 | sarah03 | *shrug* 'cd ~/src/kde-src/kdebase/konsole/konsole; grep -F "sendSession(QString)" *.cpp' turned up session.cpp. |
| 12:15.51 | dpy | I have to fix my ksm session |
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| 12:18.30 | dpy | but that's why I dont like people filing bug reports all the time |
| 12:18.43 | dpy | first investigate why you are not .... |
| 12:21.33 | dpy | or why you can not foo bla with <some app> |
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| 12:29.08 | dpy | what could be wrong when klipper docks into a different dock then ksysguard, kopete, ... etc.. |
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| 12:29.51 | Renze | dpy: you're using the klipper applet instead of the standalone app? |
| 12:30.39 | Celestar | is there any way to get rid of the "dragon" in the logout screen? |
| 12:30.54 | slayerbob | if you logout it goes away :) |
| 12:31.08 | Celestar | loll |
| 12:31.14 | dpy | Renze: Oh I did start it from commandline, becuase as applet it didn't start |
| 12:31.25 | slayerbob | it is the kde mascot, so more than likely yes :) |
| 12:31.31 | sredna | Poor katie |
| 12:31.31 | Renze | dpy: started it how? |
| 12:32.58 | slackd00d | doesnt the kaudiocreator, or whatever its called, come with kde? |
| 12:33.49 | Renze | in kdemultimedia, yes |
| 12:33.49 | sredna | slayerbob: Yes, it is in kdemultimedia |
| 12:33.50 | slayerbob | LOL |
| 12:33.50 | slackd00d | thats what i thought....but for some reason its not on my computer = \ |
| 12:33.50 | slayerbob | not having much luck with tab completion tonight sredna ? :P |
| 12:33.50 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: yo, white boy, answer me. |
| 12:33.50 | Oleg_ | slayerbob: answer me, son |
| 12:33.51 | slackd00d | at least not in my kmenu' |
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| 12:34.03 | sredna | slayerbob: Hm, I should really go fix ksirc to read my mind :o |
| 12:34.12 | slayerbob | :P |
| 12:34.23 | dpy | Renze: konsole: klipper & |
| 12:34.44 | slackd00d | does anyone know what command i enter to get to it? |
| 12:34.53 | Renze | dpy: and it didn't go to the systray? |
| 12:35.09 | Renze | slackd00d: kaudiocreator |
| 12:35.15 | slackd00d | k, thank you |
| 12:35.28 | Oleg_ | int white_boy; |
| 12:35.35 | Oleg_ | int Andrew; |
| 12:35.43 | Oleg_ | int Andrew_loves_canllaith; |
| 12:35.59 | Renze | Oleg_: do you have any idea how annoying you are? |
| 12:36.17 | Oleg_ | Renze: I am a show off. |
| 12:36.18 | slayerbob | you don't have him blocked then Renze ? |
| 12:36.28 | Renze | Oleg_: no, you're a prat |
| 12:36.42 | Renze | slayerbob: I clean out my ignore list from time to time... he's going back on it |
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| 12:38.50 | dpy | Renze: no, want to see a screenshot ? |
| 12:38.51 | Oleg_ | ok, I am gonna talk about kde |
| 12:39.31 | Renze | dpy: don't bother... your system is weird :) |
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| 12:39.39 | dpy | I have now two systrays |
| 12:39.58 | Renze | dpy: how'd you manage that? |
| 12:40.11 | dpy | I don't know I just started klipper |
| 12:40.13 | Renze | dpy: I'm only allowed one |
| 12:40.16 | dpy | and it created a new systray |
| 12:40.26 | Renze | dpy: you have borkage, dude |
| 12:40.37 | dpy | I'll probably need to update some library |
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| 12:41.15 | dpy | well I don't know |
| 12:41.21 | dpy | maybe I like two systrays |
| 12:41.33 | dpy | at least I got one for free |
| 12:41.37 | dpy | you only have one |
| 12:41.39 | dpy | in total |
| 12:41.44 | Renze | I only need one :P |
| 12:41.57 | dpy | that's what they all say |
| 12:42.01 | dpy | until they've tried two |
| 12:42.02 | dpy | :) |
| 12:42.20 | dpy | tell any windows user about virtual desktops |
| 12:42.23 | Renze | I'm not greedy... one will do :) |
| 12:42.28 | dpy | and he'll say: I only need one window |
| 12:42.31 | dpy | one desktop |
| 12:43.12 | Renze | more than one systray will lead to problems later |
| 12:44.13 | kolla_ | sigh.. why has "show above" (or whatever the english variant says) window attribute been changed to not work with panels? |
| 12:44.29 | kolla_ | I have a window that I want to display above panels too |
| 12:45.50 | slackd00d | sweet k3b 0.11.20 came out |
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| 12:51.11 | dpy | is it possible to assign shortcuts to custom scripts in kate ? |
| 12:51.24 | dpy | they dont't appear in settings->shortcuts |
| 12:51.32 | dpy | do I need to add something to the .desktop file ? |
| 12:58.03 | sredna | dpy: You mean scripts using the kscript feature? |
| 12:58.14 | dpy | ? |
| 12:58.22 | dpy | KDE-Scripts is the menu option |
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| 12:58.30 | dpy | is that the kscript feature ? |
| 12:58.31 | sredna | Yes, those |
| 12:58.43 | dpy | ok, then, yes |
| 12:58.58 | sredna | There is no way to assign a shortcut for those |
| 12:59.06 | dpy | :( |
| 12:59.10 | dpy | why nottt |
| 12:59.14 | dpy | :(( |
| 13:00.05 | sredna | The developer who created that feature did not think of that |
| 13:00.18 | sredna | dpy: What does your script do? |
| 13:01.04 | dpy | buildall |
| 13:01.14 | dpy | then connects to dcop/konsole |
| 13:01.21 | dpy | and tries to build the project |
| 13:01.40 | dpy | it then gathers information whether it succeeded or not |
| 13:02.06 | dpy | and shows a list of errors, which are clickable, then the document opens, pops to front |
| 13:02.09 | sredna | You could use the make plugin |
| 13:02.16 | dpy | then the line with the error is selected |
| 13:02.32 | dpy | sredna: this is so much more lightweight |
| 13:02.52 | dpy | it's already working |
| 13:02.56 | sredna | dpy: Could you send me a copy of it? |
| 13:03.21 | dpy | when it is finished I'll put the GPL head on it and it will be published |
| 13:03.26 | dpy | probably tonight |
| 13:03.33 | dpy | but no shortcut :( |
| 13:03.57 | dpy | I could workaround it I think |
| 13:04.11 | dpy | with kshortkeys or what is it they called the app this time |
| 13:04.28 | dpy | but that'll be a major workaround as it is desktop-wide |
| 13:04.50 | dpy | I could use hasFocus though |
| 13:04.51 | dpy | hmmm |
| 13:04.52 | dpy | idea |
| 13:05.06 | dpy | it's a proof of concept for dcop |
| 13:05.19 | dpy | a small lightweight IDE attempt with DCOP |
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| 13:07.21 | ciga | is there an mailing application for kde other than kmail? I want to use it for imap filtering... |
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| 13:12.16 | kolla_ | ciga: konsole and procmail? :) |
| 13:12.22 | slayerbob | ciga: there are many linux email applications - i believe that kmail is the only official kde one though... |
| 13:12.48 | slayerbob | evolution is good when it works :P |
| 13:12.55 | slayerbob | can be tricky to make it work though :P |
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| 13:14.05 | estel | hi |
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| 13:15.02 | estel | i have something like a taskbar on top of my screen and want to disable that windows can overlap this bar; how can i manage this with kde? |
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| 13:20.06 | dpy | estel: make sure it stays on top |
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| 13:20.26 | DexterF | hi |
| 13:20.46 | dpy | estel: there is a menubutton in kde on every window, click advanced->stays on top |
| 13:21.01 | dpy | or similar |
| 13:21.42 | dpy | other ways are: start the taskbar thing with kstart --ontop <app> |
| 13:22.18 | dpy | or communicate via dcop to kwin and tell it to put the taskbar window on top (this method is for advanced users only) |
| 13:25.56 | estel | but this windows has no border or anything else and can not overlapped |
| 13:26.08 | DexterF | lil problem with kmail 1.7.2: I send a message via POP3 and it complains about failed auth. a few seconds later the mail goes out alright. |
| 13:26.09 | estel | so when i maximize a windows i can't see its borders as it is overlapped by my program |
| 13:32.04 | sredna | estel: The only way to do that currently is to make your window a kicker panel (which requires changing the code) |
| 13:36.08 | willwork4foo | hiya folks |
| 13:37.47 | grepper | any idea how I could troubleshoot this problem on suse (kde 3.3.2) ? "impossible to start aRts with realtime priority because artswrapper is missing or disabled" - it exists, in the path, and is 4755 |
| 13:37.58 | willwork4foo | can someone out there do me a gigantic favour? I am behind a proxy that won't let me connect to CVS repos on the web, and I need something from KDE's CVS repo |
| 13:38.02 | willwork4foo | would someone mind awfully checking it out anonymously, tarring it up and sending it to me? I need the kde-common tree |
| 13:38.19 | willwork4foo | pretty please? |
| 13:42.33 | sredna | willwork4foo: What is it you need? |
| 13:42.50 | sredna | Ah, kde-common |
| 13:43.14 | willwork4foo | sredna: yah |
| 13:43.26 | willwork4foo | and I can't get hold of it coz I can't get into CVS from here. |
| 13:43.27 | willwork4foo | :( |
| 13:43.37 | willwork4foo | and I need it to make kde-bluetooth work. |
| 13:44.16 | sredna | willwork4foo: Email? |
| 13:44.48 | willwork4foo | sredna: in PM now |
| 13:44.59 | sredna | No |
| 13:45.12 | willwork4foo | aw ok |
| 13:45.16 | willwork4foo | ben.demora@sun.com |
| 13:46.12 | dpy | does anybody know if there are KDE-shell-scripting utilities ? |
| 13:46.20 | dpy | to write kde apps in e.g. bash |
| 13:46.30 | dpy | kind of like kdialog but then more powerful ? |
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| 13:49.08 | sredna | willwork4foo: Sent |
| 13:49.18 | willwork4foo | thanks sredna you're a star :) |
| 13:49.42 | sredna | Np |
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| 13:59.08 | muhahahah | im trying to set up the directory where i have qt3 installed, so the configure script can find it, so i do export QTDIR =/usr/include/qt3 but it keeps saying the libraries qt-mt are not installed (and i have installed them via apt) what am i doing wrong? |
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| 14:08.14 | mart_k | muhahahaha: You can try ./configure --with-qt-dir=/usr/include/qt3 |
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| 14:11.13 | muhahahah | ok mart_k thanks i will try it now |
| 14:14.45 | muhahahah | it doesnt work because konstruct installs with just make install |
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| 14:19.10 | mart_k | muhahahaha: Konstruct also runs ./configure, as I see in the documentation you can configure it with QTDIR (as you tried). |
| 14:19.33 | mart_k | muhahahaha: Maybe it is the space between QTDIR and =. |
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| 14:29.29 | muhahahah | urg |
| 14:29.35 | muhahahah | not working |
| 14:29.40 | Celeout | ... |
| 14:29.41 | Celeout | bbl |
| 14:29.43 | muhahahah | i have try with all the directories |
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| 14:35.47 | estel | hi |
| 14:36.13 | estel | is there some tool similar to xkb to change the language of kde? |
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| 14:47.10 | ExElNeT | ;/ i cant get rid of the media removal bug of k3b ;/ |
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| 15:23.13 | chimaera | re. |
| 15:23.28 | chimaera | i'm trying to build kdemultimedia but it's bailing out with the following: |
| 15:23.31 | chimaera | libtool: link: `kjequalizer.lo' is not a valid libtool object |
| 15:23.31 | chimaera | make[5]: *** [noatun_kjofol.la] Error 1 |
| 15:24.33 | kolla_ | oddly enough, the menu of the flashplayer works |
| 15:26.27 | chimaera | kolla_: link? |
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| 15:27.47 | kolla_ | chimaera: hm? |
| 15:28.18 | chimaera | kolla_: link to the flash not working for you. |
| 15:28.27 | kolla_ | chimaera: any |
| 15:28.37 | chimaera | oh, ok. |
| 15:29.42 | kolla_ | it's been like this for quite a while, and normally it's not a problem since most flash stuff is annoying advertising anyways.. but today there was something I wante to play with :) |
| 15:29.54 | PhilRod | chimaera: I'd guess you have an unsuitable version of one of the auto* tools, but please put that error and a few lines preceding it up onto a pasteboard |
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| 15:33.07 | chimaera | PhilRod: pls find the complete build-log here: http://debian.consistencies.net/other/build-3.log |
| 15:35.43 | [Aura]kingwanja | what is the difference between ext2 , ext , and reiser fs ? |
| 15:35.53 | [Aura]kingwanja | ext 3 * |
| 15:36.33 | PhilRod | chimaera: what happens if you make clean and then make again in kdemm/noatun/modules/kjofol-skin ? |
| 15:36.39 | chimaera | ext3 == ext3+ journaling. reiser is also a journaling-fs |
| 15:37.15 | chimaera | PhilRod: good question, i'm using thes/ext3+/ext2+/ |
| 15:37.24 | chimaera | D'OH! |
| 15:37.29 | chimaera | s/ext3+/ext2+/ |
| 15:37.43 | chimaera | PhilRod: good question, i'm using the kdecvs-script. |
| 15:37.59 | PhilRod | [Aura]kingwanja: ...and if that means nothing to you, then it means you don't need to worry about it. Just use what's default for your distro |
| 15:39.07 | PhilRod | chimaera: 'cd /mnt/files/archives/sources/kdecvs/build/kdemultimedia/noatun/modules/kjofol-skin && make clean && make' |
| 15:39.09 | PhilRod | same error? |
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| 15:40.19 | [Aura]kingwanja | philrod and chimera , thanks |
| 15:40.36 | chimaera | PhilRod: no targets & makefiles found |
| 15:40.50 | chimaera | [Aura]kingwanja: np |
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| 15:42.18 | flosch | hi |
| 15:42.24 | PhilRod | chimaera: what about in /mnt/files/archives/sources/kdecvs/build/kdemultimedia/noatun |
| 15:42.32 | PhilRod | (run make there) |
| 15:42.42 | chimaera | PhilRod: exactly, wrong path. it'S making now. |
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| 15:46.13 | chimaera | PhilRod: well, make finished w/o error |
| 15:47.33 | chimaera | still don't get it.. mh |
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| 15:48.19 | PhilRod | maybe the file got edited on disk somehow |
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| 15:48.57 | PhilRod | just go up to the kdemultimedia directory, and 'make' there, then 'make install' if it completes without error |
| 15:50.00 | chimaera | PhilRod: i just fired up the script using --resume <pkg>. just curious. |
| 15:50.57 | chimaera | still not working. ok, manually then. |
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| 15:52.38 | chimaera | PhilRod: next stop: libtool: link: `marquis.lo' is not a valid libtool object |
| 15:52.49 | willwork4foo | lo y'all |
| 15:57.18 | PhilRod | chimaera: just checking - you did build kdelibs before kdemultimedia? |
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| 15:58.43 | chimaera | PhilRod: ;) jepp. |
| 15:59.11 | willwork4foo | <-- is trying to work out how to change the MAC address of his bluetooth dongle in linux |
| 16:00.18 | PhilRod | ifconfig, maybe |
| 16:00.32 | willwork4foo | PhilRod: doesn't show up in ifconfig. |
| 16:00.44 | willwork4foo | there's a similar one - hciconfig but I can't do it there either. |
| 16:01.01 | willwork4foo | besides - I'm trying to work out how to do it permanently - in a config file or something |
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| 16:10.58 | dpy | wowwww |
| 16:11.07 | dpy | dcop is even better than I thought |
| 16:11.13 | dpy | you can access all objects |
| 16:11.18 | dpy | through the qt object |
| 16:11.30 | PhilRod | dcop rox your sox - we really don't promote it enough, I think |
| 16:11.31 | sredna | teatime: Got a minute? |
| 16:11.37 | dpy | I can even make slide green |
| 16:11.40 | dpy | slider |
| 16:12.14 | teatime | sredna: sure. what's up? |
| 16:13.00 | sredna | teatime: Does kdevelop use the modified on disk notification in kate? And do you know if quanta does? |
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| 16:13.27 | PhilRod | dpy: if you can find some neat dcop tricks, please consider writing up an article or howto about them - the more promo it gets, the better |
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| 16:13.29 | teatime | sredna: not sure about quanta.. KDevelop does, in a way |
| 16:13.49 | willwork4foo | hey - anyone know how to change the mac address of a bluetooth device? |
| 16:13.59 | willwork4foo | google strangely seems to have no idea |
| 16:14.13 | dpy | PhilRod: am trying to construct a simple IDE by hooking up kate to konsole |
| 16:16.26 | PhilRod | dpy: neat - sounds interesting. Well, like I say, a writeup of how you did it (when you're done!) would be really cool |
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| 16:26.44 | dpy | too bad kdialog doesn't honor --geometry |
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| 16:34.50 | PhilRod | does it obey -geometry à la X programs? |
| 16:37.00 | dpy | nope |
| 16:37.34 | dpy | cool I've just completely cleared the contents of a konqueror window |
| 16:38.04 | sredna | Well, depending what was in that window, that may be good or bad :p |
| 16:38.18 | dpy | no it's good |
| 16:38.25 | dpy | I was the one to call clear() |
| 16:38.29 | dpy | on a running konqueror app |
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| 16:38.43 | racoontje | hi |
| 16:41.34 | Celestar | any plans/roadmap when we can expect beta2? :) |
| 16:41.55 | PhilRod | it's been tagged, it'll be out RSN |
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| 16:42.19 | Celestar | RSN? |
| 16:42.25 | PhilRod | Real Soon Now |
| 16:42.28 | Celestar | thanks :) |
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| 16:59.37 | AgenT | does anyone know how to fix the problem with Konqueror shrinking webpages when printing? Only konq does this, no other browser. Using CUPS, but the same thing happens when I select LPR in print menu :( |
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| 17:14.57 | Theory | is anoncvs working? |
| 17:20.53 | sredna | AgenT: That is a known issue |
| 17:21.10 | sredna | atomik: I guess they are working on it, but afaik it's hard to fix |
| 17:28.05 | AgenT | sredna: anyway to get around it (besides using a different browser)? |
| 17:28.20 | sredna | AgenT: Not that I know of |
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| 17:29.28 | AgenT | sredna: okay, thanks a lot! |
| 17:29.39 | sredna | AgenT: Sorry that I have no solution |
| 17:29.47 | AgenT | sredna: np... not your fault :) |
| 17:29.53 | sredna | He, no |
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| 17:33.54 | Big_Bozz | anybody know how to disable such that KDESystemGuard doesn't start when you press CTRL+ESC? |
| 17:34.05 | Cerulean | Big_Bozz: Check KDE shortcuts? |
| 17:34.24 | Big_Bozz | Cerulean: I've checked - it is not there. |
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| 17:35.20 | Big_Bozz | Cerulean: So sorry - just found it now!! how embarassing - spent 30 mins looking for it.. |
| 17:35.22 | dpy | yesss |
| 17:35.24 | dpy | it worksssssss |
| 17:35.26 | dpy | !!!!! |
| 17:35.33 | Cerulean | Big_Bozz: good good |
| 17:38.25 | AssociateX | These are from top, do they look kde related? ksoftirqd/0 khelper kacpid kblockd/0 khubd kswapd0 kseriod khpsbpkt kjournald |
| 17:39.03 | PhilRod | the 'k' there is for 'kernel' |
| 17:39.16 | PhilRod | (so no) |
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| 17:54.26 | dpy | is there a way to figure out the realname of a person in a shell |
| 17:54.36 | dpy | without using /etc/passwd directly |
| 17:55.41 | sredna | Dcop to kaddressbook and ask fro the personal entry |
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| 18:10.02 | rubenv | Hi all, does KDE have a community related stuff mailing list? |
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| 18:13.48 | Flendor | Hello. |
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| 18:24.15 | m1lkc0w | Any FreeBSD KDE users here? |
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| 19:00.09 | PhilRod | m1lkc0w: #kde-freebsd |
| 19:00.23 | m1lkc0w | PhilRod: Thanks |
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| 19:35.43 | shakparl | aylo |
| 19:36.22 | shakparl | is there a way to add an appointment via cmd line to korganizer |
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| 19:38.25 | snugglemonkey | Just so everyone knows. I have plotted against Microsoft and they are soon to fold, for sure. EVERY company I invest in goes bankrupt, so I just tossed a couple hundred in for some shares... So, I'm certain you will soon see the empire fall. |
| 19:38.26 | jepel_tailweaver | hello all, does anyone know how to use network sound with aRts? There doesn't seem to be much documentation about it, and I was unable to access the aRts website |
| 19:38.34 | jepel_tailweaver | snugglemonkey: nice |
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| 19:38.41 | spike | hi there |
| 19:38.52 | spike | any suggestion for a DIA/PLANNER replacement? |
| 19:39.03 | spike | I just found kivio |
| 19:39.14 | spike | it sounds good for flowchart and networks layout |
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| 19:39.28 | spike | but what about gantt? |
| 19:40.48 | dpy | anyone interested in my kate-ide DCOP attempt ??? |
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| 19:46.32 | dpy | http://dwarfhouse.linux-box.net/mtoele/kate-ide20050204.zip |
| 19:46.40 | dpy | everybody have fun with it |
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| 19:52.10 | sundial | when I installed konqueror I also got a corba server - I don't think I wanted a corba server - but I like konqueror |
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| 19:54.47 | aseigo | sundial: what corba server? |
| 19:54.58 | aseigo | sundial: kde doesn't use corba itself |
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| 19:57.11 | sundial | it appeared when i loaded kdebase |
| 19:57.43 | sundial | and DCOP |
| 20:01.35 | aseigo | that's not corba |
| 20:02.06 | aseigo | that's a light weight IPC mechanism, basically type safe serialization/deserialization of local data between apps |
| 20:02.22 | aseigo | critical to the apps working, and no significant overhead. |
| 20:02.30 | sundial | i thought with linux you only loaded what you wanted and it didn't do a 'microsoft sneaky install' on ya :) |
| 20:03.37 | aseigo | did you know that when you install konqueror it also installs icon files? |
| 20:03.43 | aseigo | and configuration flies? |
| 20:03.45 | sundial | how;s this then : the truth : i'm running konqueror not on kde but on fluxbox |
| 20:03.46 | aseigo | files* |
| 20:03.49 | aseigo | and multiple libraries? |
| 20:04.11 | aseigo | that's cool.. it's one of the great things about X: you choose your desktop shell =) |
| 20:04.13 | sundial | no no i like konqueror - can;t I just get konqueror? |
| 20:04.21 | aseigo | you did just get konqueror. |
| 20:04.29 | aseigo | part of konqueror is DCOP |
| 20:04.43 | aseigo | it isn't some extra thing, anymore than its icons, XMLUI files and libkonq.so is |
| 20:04.47 | sundial | the corba gives a lot of error messages |
| 20:04.48 | aseigo | (are) |
| 20:04.51 | aseigo | it's not corba |
| 20:05.27 | aseigo | and they probably aren't errors, just warnings and feedback useful for when things go wrong so people can troubleshoot |
| 20:05.42 | aseigo | what you are probalby seeing is the sycoca (system config cache) being built |
| 20:06.07 | aseigo | which happens when you launch the first kde app in a session... (well, built and/or loaded... it is cached) |
| 20:06.32 | anis[x] | aseigo: how to make the system is loaded faster after the grub ? |
| 20:06.50 | anis[x] | stop the several service ? |
| 20:07.19 | aseigo | anis[x]: there is no trivial answer to that =) people are working hard on that issue, and recently some nice automated tools emerged for it... we'll see what happens in the next couple of distro releases... |
| 20:07.27 | aseigo | yes, stopping services can help |
| 20:07.58 | anis[x] | i found that my linux is slow more than windows |
| 20:07.59 | anis[x] | sighs |
| 20:08.04 | aseigo | parellelizing steps also helps (that's not a configuration thing though), as does optimizing the time wasters (another developer thing) |
| 20:08.16 | aseigo | anis[x]: for boot or running or? what OS? |
| 20:08.26 | anis[x] | aseigo: fc3 |
| 20:08.37 | aseigo | heh.. ah.. fc. wonderful land of speed. ;) |
| 20:08.49 | aseigo | they are working on the boot speeds as i mentioned above |
| 20:08.59 | aseigo | it hasn't been rolled into any release though |
| 20:09.02 | anis[x] | i found my linux take 1 min after the grub , but if i selected winXP after the grub , just takes 5 secs |
| 20:09.26 | sundial | and each time you load winxp - bill knows |
| 20:09.43 | aseigo | anis[x]: ah, that's not true |
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| 20:09.59 | aseigo | anis[x]: is your winxp desktop fully usable after 5 seconds? |
| 20:10.03 | anis[x] | aseigo: im not sure that is true or not..but it happened on my pc |
| 20:10.07 | aseigo | anis[x]: or does it simply show you some nice graphics? |
| 20:10.11 | anis[x] | aseigo: i swear..just 5 secs |
| 20:10.28 | anis[x] | i count it using my watch on my hand |
| 20:10.28 | aseigo | unless you have some magic hardware there |
| 20:10.49 | aseigo | alright... 5 seconds it is. from boot to being able to launch an application |
| 20:10.51 | anis[x] | aseigo: maybe i off the welcome wallpaper on winXP using tweaking programs |
| 20:11.08 | anis[x] | aseigo: i also hide the icons on my XP |
| 20:11.20 | anis[x] | could that make its faster |
| 20:11.33 | aseigo | post-loading |
| 20:11.59 | anis[x] | aseigo: ah..i hate XP too much right now..i just boot when i need adobe or playing games..but now i start learning the gimp slowly |
| 20:12.24 | sundial | even win98 did the post loading |
| 20:12.25 | aseigo | on linux we tend to pre-load, which results in longer perceived start up times (though the absolute times are also generally slower due to actually providing more services, but not as much as one might think) |
| 20:12.30 | aseigo | sundial: yep |
| 20:13.12 | anis[x] | linux is cool =) |
| 20:13.46 | anis[x] | arh..i want to watch movie now..thanks a lot aseigo |
| 20:14.14 | sundial | linux is probably the single biggest - working - project in human history - maybe the moon launches compare |
| 20:17.45 | aseigo | linux the kernel or linux the whole os? |
| 20:18.20 | sundial | the whole thing |
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| 20:18.51 | sundial | and I got it running smoothly on a x86_64 - |
| 20:19.18 | sundial | except for this corba thing :) |
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| 20:20.28 | aseigo | yeah, it's pretty impressive alright... though one of its reasons for success is that it isn't a single project but thousands of discreet (and therefore somewhat manageable) ones =) |
| 20:20.54 | aseigo | ok, now you're just poking at me with "corba" ;-P |
| 20:21.29 | aseigo | it's very nice =) |
| 20:21.44 | aseigo | anyways.. time to go.. |
| 20:21.55 | sundial | you say i need it and should just let it be the only software throwing 'warnings' on my nice clean virtual terminal window? |
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| 20:23.18 | aseigo_afk | that's what i'm saying =) |
| 20:23.29 | sundial | :) |
| 20:25.18 | Celestar | if I maximize a window, is there any way to "disable" resizability ? |
| 20:25.25 | Celestar | or is that theme-dependent? |
| 20:25.57 | aseigo_afk | control center -> desktop -> window behaviour |
| 20:26.01 | Celestar | thanks |
| 20:26.09 | aseigo_afk | on the moving tab |
| 20:26.20 | aseigo_afk | "ALlow moving and resizing of maximized windows" |
| 20:26.23 | aseigo_afk | uncheck that |
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| 21:50.46 | canllaith | good morning * |
| 21:50.59 | Renze | morning canllaith :) |
| 21:51.22 | aseigo_work | type glob, or footnote. that is the question. |
| 21:51.57 | canllaith | I like the suspense |
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| 21:53.03 | canllaith | good morning (select * from users where can_likes > 0) |
| 21:53.08 | canllaith | Is that more specific for you ? :) |
| 21:53.47 | Alethes | haha |
| 21:53.49 | Alethes | heya canllaith |
| 21:53.53 | slayerbob | :o |
| 21:56.09 | sredna | Lol, good morning canllaith ) |
| 21:56.31 | sredna | And hello everybody |
| 21:56.36 | slayerbob | hiya sredna |
| 21:56.37 | Renze | hola anders |
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| 21:58.46 | canllaith | slayerbob, can I install squirrell mail on gateway? :) |
| 21:58.54 | slayerbob | :P |
| 21:58.56 | slayerbob | sure |
| 21:59.01 | slayerbob | i was hoping you would :P |
| 21:59.30 | canllaith | ah ok I do that sometime today then :):) |
| 21:59.33 | Alethes | canllaith: 16x16 actions are 100% done, but I'm gonna change a few of the icons |
| 22:00.01 | dpy | does anyone know how to turn this off: when ever I select something in kde it is immediately inside the copy/paste buffer |
| 22:00.08 | dpy | I'd like to press ctrl+c first |
| 22:00.16 | Alethes | that's X |
| 22:00.32 | Renze | that's the way X works |
| 22:00.52 | canllaith | Alethes, ooh oooh oooh upload? |
| 22:01.00 | Alethes | canllaith: haha ok |
| 22:01.03 | canllaith | Every time I look at Kontact |
| 22:01.08 | Alethes | hang on, I'll tarball it |
| 22:01.08 | dpy | no in nedit this doesn't work |
| 22:01.21 | canllaith | I think 'This would look so much prettier with Alethes' icons' |
| 22:01.26 | dpy | if I select something in nedit it is not put in the paste buffer |
| 22:01.27 | Alethes | haha |
| 22:01.40 | Renze | dpy: that's a quirk of nedit |
| 22:02.32 | dpy | can I turn this behaviour off ? |
| 22:02.52 | dpy | or use a separate paste buffer |
| 22:02.57 | Renze | dpy: I have no idea if X allows you to alter the way the clipboard works... I've never wanted to change it |
| 22:02.59 | dpy | one for ctrl+c ctrl+v |
| 22:03.04 | dpy | and one for select/middle mouse button |
| 22:03.14 | dpy | that would be ideal |
| 22:03.25 | dpy | I'd like a clean separation between those two buffers |
| 22:03.39 | dpy | that's what nedit provided as well |
| 22:04.42 | Renze | dpy: I'm so used to the X clipboard paradigm, I have problems on Windows :) |
| 22:05.05 | dpy | windows is horrible too |
| 22:05.14 | dpy | in windows you ONLY have ctrl+c ctrl+v |
| 22:05.17 | dpy | I want both |
| 22:05.22 | dpy | in separate buffers |
| 22:05.24 | IpSwItCh_ | yuk... windows :( |
| 22:05.30 | Renze | dpy: write the code |
| 22:05.34 | aseigo_work | dpy: erm. it shouldn't bein the paste buffer. that's klipper's doing |
| 22:05.35 | sredna | dpy: Pr tradition, in X what you selecs by mouse goes into the 'selection', which can then be pasted by middleclicking |
| 22:05.37 | dpy | these are combination function |
| 22:05.44 | dpy | I don't like to select and than ctrl+v |
| 22:06.03 | dpy | <sredna> dpy: Pr tradition, in X what you selecs by mouse goes into the 'selection', which can then be pasted by middleclicking <- perfect tradition, let's keep it |
| 22:06.16 | dpy | I am just suggesting that ctrl+c ctrl+v goes into a separate buffer |
| 22:06.24 | Alethes | canllaith: it's uploading |
| 22:06.26 | Renze | dpy: write the code |
| 22:06.30 | sredna | dpy: Klipper, kdes clipboard handler, allows you to configure if the clipboard and selection should be syncronized |
| 22:06.32 | dpy | it's so usefull in a replace situation |
| 22:06.34 | canllaith | Alethes, I could kiss you ;) |
| 22:06.37 | dpy | let me explain: |
| 22:06.52 | Alethes | I won't tell slayerbob haha |
| 22:06.59 | canllaith | ok, and I wont tell your wife ;) |
| 22:07.05 | Alethes | haha |
| 22:07.12 | slayerbob | :P |
| 22:07.17 | dpy | you want to replace some text by some other text... then you select "some other text" do ctrl+c then you select the to be replaced text and you do ctrl+v |
| 22:07.25 | dpy | this is only possible if you separate the buffers |
| 22:07.27 | dpy | like nedit does |
| 22:07.29 | slayerbob | Alethes: i have a very short memory anyways :P |
| 22:07.33 | Alethes | hehe |
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| 22:08.33 | dpy | THANKS sredna |
| 22:08.35 | dpy | that did it |
| 22:08.38 | dpy | it was klipper |
| 22:08.42 | sredna | Np :) |
| 22:08.43 | dpy | no code needed to be written |
| 22:09.01 | sredna | I've been using kde since 1996 |
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| 22:09.44 | ironfroggy | why does bash in konsole not let me type commands over a certain length? |
| 22:10.02 | sredna | I think that is system defined |
| 22:10.19 | ironfroggy | where? for KDE or bash? |
| 22:10.36 | sredna | Bash |
| 22:11.04 | ironfroggy | would it be possible for Konsole to change that to match its own width? |
| 22:12.29 | Alethes | canllaith: it's taking _forever_ |
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| 22:13.51 | sredna | ironfroggy: The maximum command length is many thousand characters usually |
| 22:13.58 | canllaith | heh |
| 22:14.09 | canllaith | Alethes, you have decent webhosting on a decent connection? |
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| 22:14.25 | sredna | ironfroggy: If you resized konsole, the new width will only apply to newly rendered strings |
| 22:14.25 | canllaith | cause if not I'd let you ftp to my webserver :)) |
| 22:14.32 | Alethes | canllaith: yeah, but I have a modem here :/ |
| 22:14.43 | canllaith | Alethes, awwww :( poor bub |
| 22:14.43 | Alethes | the server isn't the prob |
| 22:14.50 | Alethes | it's my lowly 56k modem |
| 22:14.57 | canllaith | can't get faster internet, or wha? |
| 22:15.04 | canllaith | s/wha/what/ |
| 22:15.08 | Alethes | well, we're supposed to get wireless broadband this spring |
| 22:15.12 | canllaith | nice :) |
| 22:15.48 | Alethes | 1 meg up and down :D |
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| 22:16.39 | slackd00d | does the new kdm come with kde3.4beta1? |
| 22:16.40 | canllaith | very nice! |
| 22:16.49 | canllaith | we only have 512k up on our 'fast' connection |
| 22:17.00 | canllaith | although slayerbob I reckon we should run a webserver on the connection at franz ;) |
| 22:17.14 | slayerbob | a webserver ? |
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| 22:17.23 | canllaith | well I guess except that it gets turned off every night |
| 22:17.31 | canllaith | but 2x 512K up is just niiiice |
| 22:17.33 | slayerbob | we should reinstall that machine with slack10 anyways |
| 22:17.37 | slayerbob | er |
| 22:17.37 | canllaith | True |
| 22:17.43 | slayerbob | it is only 256kbps up |
| 22:17.46 | canllaith | awwwwww |
| 22:17.48 | canllaith | ok then |
| 22:17.51 | canllaith | so I am mistaken |
| 22:18.09 | slayerbob | although we could balance the ip with gateway and let the internet routing share the connection randomly for us :) |
| 22:18.15 | canllaith | are we still running rh 7.3 on it ? |
| 22:18.16 | slackd00d | install slackware-current |
| 22:18.20 | slackd00d | not 10 =) |
| 22:18.23 | slayerbob | yeah still 7.3 |
| 22:18.24 | canllaith | slackd00d, we do basically |
| 22:18.35 | slackd00d | good |
| 22:18.40 | slayerbob | slackd00d: by the time canllaith has finished with it it will probably be more current than that :P |
| 22:18.48 | slackd00d | makes an easier upgrade once 10.1 come out |
| 22:18.49 | canllaith | I install slck 10 then latest stable kernel.org kernel |
| 22:18.58 | slackd00d | heh |
| 22:18.59 | canllaith | then latest KDE etc etc |
| 22:19.13 | canllaith | heh |
| 22:19.19 | canllaith | we wont upgrade when 10.1 comes out |
| 22:19.25 | slackd00d | current comes with the lastest |
| 22:19.29 | canllaith | this machine is running rh 7.3 which shows you how keen we are on upgrading |
| 22:19.30 | slackd00d | why not |
| 22:19.37 | canllaith | because it's a server |
| 22:19.38 | slackd00d | heh |
| 22:19.46 | slackd00d | o, makes sence i guess |
| 22:19.51 | canllaith | and downtime is annoying, and stability is more important than the latest stuff :) |
| 22:20.01 | slayerbob | hence the rh7.3 |
| 22:20.04 | canllaith | as long as our kernel and services are all nice and secure and no known vulnerabilities that's all that matters :) |
| 22:20.11 | slayerbob | although the possibility of it being hacked worries me a little :S |
| 22:20.13 | canllaith | which reminds me, upgrading ssh time on gateway |
| 22:20.15 | slackd00d | ya, true |
| 22:20.26 | canllaith | when I come home, next time we're in chch |
| 22:20.34 | slayerbob | okie |
| 22:20.51 | slackd00d | i think im gonna install 3.4beta1 too see if the new kdm is in it |
| 22:21.01 | canllaith | define 'new' slackd00d :) |
| 22:21.09 | slackd00d | themeable |
| 22:22.20 | canllaith | ahhh yes, iirc it is |
| 22:22.27 | slackd00d | sweet |
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| 22:30.27 | willwork4foo | lo |
| 22:34.04 | canllaith | ullo willwork4foo |
| 22:34.28 | polok | where would debian install kde-look themese, and how to I set them up? |
| 22:35.12 | sredna | Hm, somewhere I have a casette tape with phill woods playing an extremely nice version of 'willow, weep for me' |
| 22:36.43 | willwork4foo | ullo canllaith |
| 22:37.15 | AchiestDragon | only other "bug" today was installing hadifix from instructions on ktts handbook gave errors |
| 22:37.16 | canllaith | mmm nice :) |
| 22:37.27 | canllaith | I like the version that is June Christy singing |
| 22:37.28 | AchiestDragon | opps |
| 22:37.33 | AchiestDragon | wrong room |
| 22:37.34 | canllaith | and I think Stan Kenton band ...... |
| 22:37.38 | willwork4foo | I'm trying to get a VNC connection from a slack 10 client onto a solaris 9 server |
| 22:37.54 | willwork4foo | so far, no good. Solaris 9 VNC server won't start. |
| 22:37.57 | willwork4foo | poo. |
| 22:40.47 | canllaith | * whisper to the night, to hide her starry light * |
| 22:41.00 | Alethes | canllaith: when you finally get to try this out, let me know if any of the icons look out of place or if they look amateur |
| 22:41.30 | canllaith | Alethes, sure thing dude :) |
| 22:41.59 | canllaith | * willow, weep for me... weep in sympathy.... bend your branches down, along the ground and cover me.... * |
| 22:42.09 | canllaith | * when the shadows fall, bend o'er willow... and weep for me... * |
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| 22:45.11 | Alethes | canllaith: I had a prof that played bass for stan kenton |
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| 22:45.23 | Alethes | back when I was a music major |
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| 22:48.28 | darkcmd | QT is lgpl correct? |
| 22:48.50 | Alethes | no |
| 22:48.55 | darkcmd | GPL? |
| 22:49.32 | Alethes | for GPL or some other proprietary license for commercial apps, I think |
| 22:49.55 | canllaith | Alethes, seriously cool |
| 22:50.00 | canllaith | Alethes, what do you play? :) |
| 22:50.12 | Alethes | guitar -- like everybody else heh |
| 22:50.15 | canllaith | ah heh |
| 22:50.32 | Alethes | cool |
| 22:50.34 | darkcmd | thanks :) |
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| 22:50.56 | canllaith | and June Christy is what I want to sound like when I grow up ;) (being 10 - 20 years too young to sing jazz lol) |
| 22:51.19 | Alethes | I did a recital once where we did this latin jazz piece I wrote and I had a flute doubling the melody with me |
| 22:51.22 | Alethes | sounded really cool |
| 22:51.26 | canllaith | :) |
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| 22:51.31 | goo_ | hey guys, how can I disable KDE from opening a desktop on my second monitor? It thinks I'm using Xinerama, but I'm not.. |
| 22:51.37 | Alethes | http://www.alethes.net/Bluecurve-kde.tar.bz2 |
| 22:51.39 | Alethes | tada |
| 22:51.48 | canllaith | you rock |
| 22:51.49 | Alethes | canllaith: I also had a major crush on the girl playing flute |
| 22:51.54 | canllaith | Alethes, heh |
| 22:51.59 | canllaith | I take it this was before you got married |
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| 22:52.03 | Alethes | of course |
| 22:52.06 | canllaith | :P |
| 22:52.47 | goo_ | I don't see any options in kdeinit, for example, to disable opening two screens |
| 22:52.47 | Alethes | I was like 20 or 21 |
| 22:52.47 | Alethes | maybe 19 even |
| 22:52.47 | Alethes | don't remember exactly |
| 22:52.57 | ciga | what is an rmb menu? I know the band, anyway. |
| 22:53.26 | ponto | ciga: right mouse button |
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| 22:53.39 | ciga | ponto: thanks |
| 22:53.53 | slackd00d | the kdm in beta1 isnt themeable =( |
| 22:54.10 | canllaith | it is it's just needing to be set in kdmrc rather than a gui tool for it |
| 22:54.15 | canllaith | I think that made it into beta 1. |
| 22:54.21 | canllaith | I think that was in alpha one actually |
| 22:54.33 | slackd00d | o, i thought there would be a gui for it |
| 22:54.41 | canllaith | nah |
| 22:54.46 | slackd00d | that sucks |
| 22:55.13 | slackd00d | cause gdmconfig is a neat tool |
| 22:57.00 | slackd00d | how do you make windows transparent? |
| 22:57.04 | Alethes | canllaith: I think for the bluecurve look to be really successful with kde, you have to really clean up the toolbars |
| 22:58.02 | canllaith | what do you mean Alethes ? |
| 22:58.11 | Alethes | well, by default, kde is very cluttered |
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| 22:58.26 | Alethes | with tons of toolbar options, etc |
| 22:58.38 | Alethes | most of which aren't necessary (copy/paste) |
| 22:58.39 | canllaith | Alethes, ah, I clean mine up |
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| 22:59.29 | Alethes | I'd love it if kde had two modes for configs, too |
| 22:59.42 | canllaith | man I can't believe the prices people pay for crap |
| 22:59.49 | Alethes | one that is more like gnome's, with few options and nice defaults, then another mode with all kinds of flexibility like it is now |
| 22:59.57 | canllaith | I was in the store yesterday, and my shit mouse that I hate is like $60 and my good mouse is like $80 :\ |
| 23:00.10 | slackd00d | hah |
| 23:00.10 | Alethes | geez |
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| 23:00.30 | canllaith | I get them in boxes of 3 for hardly anything :\ |
| 23:00.40 | _rmorris__ | G'day |
| 23:00.50 | aseigo_work | does anyone have exactly 6 icons right now in their systray? |
| 23:00.57 | slackd00d | ya, have you seen those gyrotronics mouse's? |
| 23:00.58 | canllaith | yes |
| 23:01.08 | _rmorris__ | how do you tell the version of kde installed? |
| 23:01.11 | canllaith | but I haven't cvssed up since before your most recent commits |
| 23:01.16 | canllaith | _rmorris__, kde-config --version |
| 23:01.22 | _rmorris__ | cheers |
| 23:01.23 | canllaith | Or, Help -> About KDE from any applications menubar |
| 23:01.32 | aseigo_work | actually. nmind i just remembered we have icon hiding now. hahaha.. |
| 23:01.39 | canllaith | :P |
| 23:01.40 | canllaith | did you lose an icon ? |
| 23:01.51 | _rmorris__ | 3.0 |
| 23:02.03 | Alethes | canllaith: using the default kweather icons clashes with bluecurve -- I'm using http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=18778 |
| 23:02.11 | canllaith | I don't use kweather so that is ok :) |
| 23:02.16 | Alethes | ah |
| 23:02.22 | canllaith | It doesn't have my hick 2 horse town on it ;) |
| 23:02.31 | Alethes | you must go outside sometimes :P |
| 23:02.56 | canllaith | Yeah I have my own Kweather 'window' |
| 23:03.01 | Alethes | hehe |
| 23:03.07 | canllaith | I stick my head out. |
| 23:03.21 | canllaith | If it gets wet, it's raining. If it gets cold, it's snowing |
| 23:03.26 | canllaith | and if it gets burnt, it's sunny |
| 23:03.32 | Alethes | hehe |
| 23:03.47 | Alethes | btw, check out the new view icons I did for konq |
| 23:03.55 | Alethes | for the different view modes |
| 23:04.22 | Alethes | also for the Window menu, for splitting horizontally and vertically |
| 23:04.28 | _rmorris__ | I am looking at the redhat 9 update site, and I see kde 3.1.x should I bother with that, or go from 3.0 to current? |
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| 23:06.31 | slackd00d | canllaith: how do i make windows transparent in beta1? i looked but dont know where to search |
| 23:06.37 | canllaith | slackd00d, you wait until beta 2 |
| 23:06.44 | slackd00d | o really |
| 23:06.45 | canllaith | or use xcompmgr |
| 23:07.00 | slackd00d | ok, i for some reason thought it was in this one |
| 23:07.04 | slackd00d | thanks =) |
| 23:08.26 | Alethes | canllaith: did you get it yet? huh? huh? huh? |
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| 23:08.28 | Alethes | :) |
| 23:08.47 | canllaith | Alethes, uhuh and I am screenshotting for you shortly :) |
| 23:09.02 | Alethes | ah cool |
| 23:09.43 | [Aura]kingwanja | canllaith: you always seem to be in the middle of things |
| 23:10.07 | m1lkc0w | What's this "Document Relations" from kdeaddons-konq-plugins? Uh, how annoying.. |
| 23:10.22 | Alethes | m1lkc0w: it's everybody's favorite plugin :) |
| 23:10.30 | m1lkc0w | I turn it off and it keeps coming back... |
| 23:10.37 | m1lkc0w | Sounds familiar? |
| 23:10.44 | Alethes | it's broken |
| 23:11.08 | m1lkc0w | OK. ... <help> |
| 23:11.09 | Alethes | you have to delete it, but I don't know remember the file names |
| 23:11.15 | Alethes | canllaith told me a while back |
| 23:11.18 | Alethes | canllaith knows all :) |
| 23:12.05 | canllaith | m1lkc0w, ok then |
| 23:12.12 | canllaith | in $KDEDIR/lib/kde3 |
| 23:12.16 | m1lkc0w | You. |
| 23:12.18 | m1lkc0w | Yup. |
| 23:12.20 | canllaith | you want to remove or rename or do something nasty with a big stick |
| 23:12.26 | aseigo_work | share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_rellinks.desktop |
| 23:12.27 | canllaith | (preferably with big, spikey nails in it) |
| 23:12.33 | canllaith | to librellinks.* |
| 23:12.35 | [Aura]kingwanja | there is a movie called thirteen ghosts on tv which is reallt scary , so i decided to jump on here for 20 minutes |
| 23:12.37 | canllaith | Or, yes you can do it that way |
| 23:12.42 | aseigo_work | DIE DIE DIE |
| 23:12.44 | canllaith | but I find it much more satisfying after a runin with librellinks |
| 23:12.51 | canllaith | to just SMACK IT WITH A BIG STICK GARRRRHHHH |
| 23:12.57 | canllaith | m1lkc0w, so there you go :) |
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| 23:13.04 | m1lkc0w | Cool. |
| 23:13.06 | aseigo_work | flosch: hey =) |
| 23:13.13 | ciga | is it possible that quanta cannot be compiled with libxml2-dev 2.6.11-5? |
| 23:14.51 | flosch | aseigo_work: what? (: |
| 23:15.18 | aseigo_work | nothing, just saying hi |
| 23:16.04 | canllaith | ok judging by my inbox |
| 23:16.08 | canllaith | I prolly really want to cvs up kicker today |
| 23:16.25 | Alethes | canllaith: I've gotta leave soon and I wanna see that screenshot :D |
| 23:16.31 | canllaith | Alethes, uploading now |
| 23:16.31 | Alethes | ...no pressure of course :) |
| 23:16.34 | Alethes | woohoo |
| 23:16.48 | m1lkc0w | canllaith: aseigo_work: It seems like removing /usr/local/share/apps/khtml/kpartplugins/plugin_rellinks.rc is sufficient. Correct? |
| 23:16.51 | Alethes | any icons look eyesores yet? |
| 23:16.55 | canllaith | m1lkc0w, yes |
| 23:17.15 | m1lkc0w | canllaith: aseigo_work: Thanks a lot for your help. |
| 23:17.40 | canllaith | taking forever |
| 23:17.44 | [Aura]kingwanja | are any task bar developers here |
| 23:17.59 | Alethes | canllaith: today isn't a good day for uploads huh? hehe |
| 23:18.10 | canllaith | It appears not |
| 23:18.32 | [Aura]kingwanja | somethings bugging me |
| 23:19.27 | canllaith | grrrrowl |
| 23:19.31 | canllaith | ok done |
| 23:19.42 | Alethes | gimme |
| 23:20.03 | canllaith | http://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/kde0016.png |
| 23:20.22 | canllaith | very sexy |
| 23:20.24 | canllaith | i love it |
| 23:20.34 | Alethes | downloading |
| 23:20.37 | canllaith | With that black theme I like gartoon the best I must admit but svg icon sets are too slow on my 500 |
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| 23:20.47 | canllaith | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:21.08 | aseigo_work | canllaith: knome? =) |
| 23:21.27 | [Aura]kingwanja | that is one ugly theme |
| 23:21.27 | canllaith | aseigo_work, well Alethes and I just happen to like bluecurve icons :) |
| 23:21.31 | Alethes | I'm thinking I might play with gorilla svg and make it not have all those apes heh |
| 23:21.51 | willwork4foo | hiya canllaith |
| 23:22.06 | canllaith | [Aura]kingwanja : http://bryson.co.nz/~dessa/kde0016.png |
| 23:22.21 | canllaith | I -love- that theme. I think it looks nicer with gartoon though |
| 23:22.35 | Alethes | aseigo_work: I'm trying to complete bluecurve for kde |
| 23:22.58 | canllaith | mmm no that is the wrong one |
| 23:23.00 | aseigo_work | Alethes: cool |
| 23:23.29 | canllaith | aseigo_work, 'spatialesque' ? |
| 23:23.29 | canllaith | ah THIS is the one I meant |
| 23:23.29 | Alethes | gotta run for a couple of hours |
| 23:23.29 | Alethes | bbl |
| 23:23.29 | canllaith | http://www.hoult.org/~canllaith/files/screenies/kde2.png |
| 23:23.36 | canllaith | aseigo_work, try, I have a fucking 13" screen and default konqueror fills it. Totally. |
| 23:24.17 | Alethes | hah |
| 23:24.22 | canllaith | :) |
| 23:24.33 | [Aura]kingwanja | its too pale , the icons are too small at the bottom , the desktop image is not clear enough . the grey colour reminds me of school socks . |
| 23:24.42 | Alethes | I'm gonna be making those red and green folders too, btw, canllaith |
| 23:24.42 | canllaith | lol |
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| 23:24.49 | canllaith | The desktop image is a penguin |
| 23:24.51 | willwork4foo | canllaith: 13" screen? is that your itty bitty cute lappy you got there? |
| 23:24.52 | canllaith | he's cute |
| 23:24.58 | canllaith | willwork4foo, aye :) |
| 23:25.02 | canllaith | my itty bitty baby |
| 23:25.11 | willwork4foo | awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, schweet widdle waptop. |
| 23:25.15 | canllaith | there is a monster of an athlon with 21" tft to my left, but it doesn't fit in my lap |
| 23:25.22 | willwork4foo | yah. |
| 23:25.30 | willwork4foo | I got a 21" monster in my lap] |
| 23:25.34 | willwork4foo | but we don't talk about that. |
| 23:25.40 | slayerbob | we could increase the size of your lap :P |
| 23:25.41 | Alethes | aseigo_work: http://www.alethes.net/bckonq.png |
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| 23:25.53 | willwork4foo | noooo, canllaith's lap is just the right size. |
| 23:25.54 | canllaith | yikes |
| 23:25.54 | canllaith | poor claire |
| 23:26.00 | slayerbob | claire ? |
| 23:26.17 | willwork4foo | claire = my partner |
| 23:26.21 | Alethes | aseigo_work: http://www.alethes.net/bckontact5.png |
| 23:26.30 | slayerbob | ah |
| 23:26.31 | slayerbob | lol |
| 23:26.48 | Alethes | ok |
| 23:26.56 | willwork4foo | awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww, why is Solaris 9 being a biyatch and not letting me start a vncserver DAMMIT |
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| 23:27.01 | AssociateX | where is the kde menu stuff stored at? |
| 23:27.03 | jordo23 | How do you force kill a KDE application? |
| 23:27.10 | willwork4foo | hmm. |
| 23:27.10 | [Aura]kingwanja | canllaith: that second one is very nice |
| 23:27.16 | ciga | ../../quanta/parsers/dtd/.libs/libdtdparser.a(dtdparser.o)(.text+0x664): In function `DTDParser::parse()': undefined reference to `xmlCharStrndup' <-- this means that my libxml2 is not good, right? |
| 23:27.17 | canllaith | xkill or kill -9 |
| 23:27.21 | canllaith | [Aura]kingwanja, ty :) That's my favourite |
| 23:27.24 | aseigo_work | jordo23: ctrl-alt-esc and click |
| 23:27.55 | jordo23 | asiefo_work: you da man! |
| 23:28.19 | jordo23 | aseigo_work: I can't type. |
| 23:28.54 | AssociateX | Hello people, what a nice day... btw,where is the kde menu stuff stored at? |
| 23:29.06 | [Aura]kingwanja | now i think its time for a change on the clock myself |
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| 23:44.05 | [Aura]kingwanja | fudd seems to be a nice font for the clock |
| 23:44.15 | aseigo_work | AssociateX: etc/xdg/menus |
| 23:44.27 | _rmorris__ | sorry one more question. What's the difference between knetwork and knetwork-nowlistening |
| 23:44.29 | aseigo_work | the fear, uncertainty and doubt font! |
| 23:44.31 | AssociateX | ty |
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| 23:45.07 | polok | where would debian install kde-look.org themes, and how to I set them up? |
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| 23:46.32 | aseigo_work | polok: depends on the type of theme |
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| 23:46.44 | aseigo_work | polok: in general they'll be somewhere under `kde-config --prefix` though |
| 23:48.29 | [Aura]kingwanja | that horrible digital clock look has gone forever \o/ |
| 23:49.32 | polok | aseigo_work: thanks, but bah, kde-config --prefix is /usr |
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| 23:49.57 | aseigo_work | polok: if you'd answer my first question-as-a-statement i could help further |
| 23:50.07 | aseigo_work | polok: but they should just show up in the control center |
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| 23:51.04 | Zxcvb | is koffice 1.4 coming up next? |
| 23:51.28 | aseigo_work | coming up next as in "when qt4 is ready to devel against koffice 1.4 (2?) starts" |
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| 23:52.23 | Ashdurbat | Hi |
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| 23:52.40 | Ashdurbat | Can you disable the panel altogether? |
| 23:52.47 | Zxcvb | as in the next non-bugfix version of koffice |
| 23:53.14 | polok | aseigo_work: baghira is the name of the theme, and I used apt-get-install kwin-theme-baghira (or something like that) to install it |
| 23:53.16 | [Aura]kingwanja | hey folks ive got v3.2 . In the latter versions i was wonder whether the task bar has a different panels where perhaps it iluminates when i scroll the mouse over it ? |
| 23:53.18 | aseigo_work | Zxcvb: yes, that was the answer |
| 23:53.29 | aseigo_work | polok: does it show up in the Window Decorations control center? |
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| 23:53.46 | aseigo_work | [Aura]kingwanja: mouse overs? no |
| 23:54.16 | Zxcvb | how compatible is qt4 with qt 3.x? |
| 23:54.17 | [Aura]kingwanja | maybe it could do with a bit of a feature there ? |
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| 23:54.42 | KungFoo | hi |
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| 23:55.15 | [Aura]kingwanja | nice name there kung :) |
| 23:55.34 | KungFoo | the onkey-wrench at KDE startup takes ages an when I click the K-Button in "taskbar" it takes 15 minutes to open. Once it's open, I can re-open it quickly |
| 23:55.35 | chavo | [Aura]kingwanja, there is a plugin called taskbar2 that will do that. look on kde.apps.org |
| 23:55.39 | aseigo_work | Zxcvb: it's similar |
| 23:55.44 | aseigo_work | Zxcvb: but a lot has changed |
| 23:55.48 | KungFoo | s/onkey/monkey |
| 23:55.55 | [Aura]kingwanja | ohh right , thanks chavo |
| 23:55.59 | aseigo_work | Zxcvb: network, threading, widget drawing and the new MV stuff in particular |
| 23:56.33 | Zxcvb | aseigo_work: as in how much stuff written using qt3 will compile with qt4 |
| 23:56.40 | aseigo_work | a lot of it |
| 23:56.53 | aseigo_work | there'll still be porting work though |
| 23:56.56 | aseigo_work | why? |
| 23:57.13 | Zxcvb | aseigo_work: could be a problem since you can only have one qt version and lots of stuff was written using qt3 |
| 23:57.41 | Zxcvb | aseigo_work: unless qt4 apps will recognize qt4dir and qt3 will recognize qt3dir variables |
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| 23:57.49 | polok | aseigo_work: yep, just not the themes control centre |
| 23:58.10 | chavo | Zxcvb, you can use more than one version of qt at a time |
| 23:59.12 | chavo | m1lkc0w, yes it's very nice isn't it. |
| 23:59.31 | aseigo_work | polok: yes, it isn't that sort of theme |
| 23:59.33 | Zxcvb | chavo: no you can't, you have to set qtdir=foo |
| 23:59.41 | aseigo_work | Zxcvb: what makes you think you can't have mor ethan one version of qt? |
