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| 00:20.33 | CommodoreAttack | Anyone here? |
| 00:21.11 | CommodoreAttack | I am trying to locate a yum deposotory for the latest RPMs for KDE |
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| 00:22.43 | squash_ | how do i create a shortcut, so it will execute a command in konsole |
| 00:22.52 | squash_ | e.g. like if i wanna start mplayer in konsole |
| 00:22.57 | squash_ | desktop icon to execute mplayer |
| 00:23.03 | squash_ | in kde with konsole |
| 00:23.03 | squash_ | ? |
| 00:23.48 | grepper | why would you start it in konsole ? |
| 00:24.07 | squash_ | because mplayer... |
| 00:24.15 | squash_ | i wanna use mplayer from command line with no gui |
| 00:24.20 | squash_ | as the gui is all... yeah |
| 00:24.38 | CommodoreAttack | What is the current version of KDE? 3.2? |
| 00:25.30 | grepper | squash_: then just start konsole and start typing :) |
| 00:26.12 | squash_ | i'm lazy |
| 00:26.40 | squash_ | as i don't wanna type that everytime |
| 00:27.55 | grepper | well, presumably you will need to type the name of the file |
| 00:29.51 | grepper | just starting konsole with "mplayer" will flash konsole on the screen and it will disappear |
| 00:30.14 | squash_ | yeah |
| 00:30.23 | CommodoreAttack | Does anyone know if there is a yum enabled reposotory for KDE rpms? |
| 00:30.23 | squash_ | exactly... :-\ |
| 00:30.27 | grepper | if you know the name of the file, then you don't need konsole, just mplayer /path/to/file |
| 00:31.04 | squash_ | what if i wanna play from a URL ? |
| 00:31.13 | squash_ | mplayer http://............ ? |
| 00:34.16 | grepper | whatever working in a terminal should work in a "desktop file" |
| 00:34.41 | squash_ | hmmm not in this case |
| 00:35.31 | grepper | give me a url |
| 00:35.58 | squash_ | i don't have one |
| 00:36.03 | squash_ | :p |
| 00:36.20 | squash_ | i'll try installing another console |
| 00:36.22 | squash_ | like xterm |
| 00:36.40 | squash_ | i think |
| 00:37.07 | grepper | you are a squash player ? |
| 00:37.41 | squash_ | . |
| 00:37.42 | squash_ | mplayer |
| 00:38.17 | grepper | oh |
| 00:38.23 | squash_ | what is aterm, eterm or xterm ? |
| 00:38.38 | grepper | like konsole, but no tabs |
| 00:38.49 | grepper | lighter on resources |
| 00:38.56 | squash_ | yeah |
| 00:39.01 | squash_ | light resources |
| 00:39.06 | squash_ | no tabs etc |
| 00:39.37 | grepper | I see |
| 00:39.44 | squash_ | i'll try aterm |
| 00:40.03 | grepper | rxvt is very light |
| 00:40.58 | squash_ | i tried with aterm still the same |
| 00:41.48 | squash_ | looks like i'll just have the stuff |
| 00:41.48 | grepper | same what ? |
| 00:41.53 | squash_ | problems |
| 00:42.00 | grepper | yes, what ? |
| 00:42.05 | squash_ | opens and closes |
| 00:42.16 | grepper | that's the expected behavior ! |
| 00:42.30 | grepper | you haven't given it anything to do |
| 00:42.43 | grepper | if you type "mplayer" in a term it does noting |
| 00:42.46 | grepper | nothing |
| 00:42.49 | squash_ | aterm -e mplayer |
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| 00:42.54 | squash_ | konsole -e mplayer |
| 00:42.56 | grepper | yes |
| 00:43.01 | grepper | that is expected |
| 00:43.08 | squash_ | yeah |
| 00:43.43 | grepper | this whole thing strikes me as a waste of your time As you don't really know what you want to do :) |
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| 01:21.19 | MrBiggZ | Greetings anybody here upgrade kde to 3.2 on a mandrake 9.2 distro? |
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| 01:33.02 | hackeron | what do you think of this: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=82918 ---- something you also find useful? care to vote? |
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| 01:34.29 | syscrash2k | how do i disable the navigation panel in konqueror? |
| 01:34.38 | hackeron | syscrash2k: F9? |
| 01:34.40 | chendo | anyone know what dcop command to seet focus to a window? |
| 01:34.55 | syscrash2k | hackeron, that hides it, but i want to disable it for good |
| 01:35.10 | syscrash2k | hackeron, so that it doesnt show up when i open another konq window |
| 01:35.23 | hackeron | syscrash2k: I've done it, I think its in settings -> configure profiles |
| 01:36.04 | syscrash2k | hackeron, it isnt in there, it must be somewhere else :P |
| 01:36.37 | hackeron | syscrash2k: yeah, cant remember exactly where, but I've disabled it for good somehow :) |
| 01:36.42 | syscrash2k | heh |
| 01:36.58 | hackeron | syscrash2k: check it out, sexy? ftp://public:asd@81.86.159.146/latest.jpeg |
| 01:37.04 | syscrash2k | also, how can i make it so that i have to double click to open folders, single click to select? |
| 01:37.31 | hackeron | syscrash2k: somewhere in kcontrol, not sure why you would want that, but its there :) |
| 01:37.42 | syscrash2k | hackeron, not to my taste :P |
| 01:37.44 | hackeron | syscrash2k: I think its under peripherals -> mouse settings if I'm not wrong |
| 01:37.55 | CommodoreAttack | Anyone know how to make a launcher that is on everyone's Desktop or pannel? |
| 01:37.59 | hackeron | syscrash2k: give it a while longer, thats what I did, I love it :) |
| 01:38.04 | syscrash2k | lol |
| 01:38.33 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: errr, /etc/skel? |
| 01:38.35 | grepper | syscrash2k: just save the session |
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| 01:38.50 | syscrash2k | oh ok grepper |
| 01:38.51 | syscrash2k | thanks |
| 01:38.52 | CommodoreAttack | /etc/skel? |
| 01:39.08 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: yes, it populates ~ for each user on creation |
| 01:39.17 | grepper | syscrash2k: not the session of kde, of konq |
| 01:39.21 | CommodoreAttack | I dont have that folder |
| 01:39.26 | syscrash2k | i know, grepper :) i got it, thanks |
| 01:39.28 | CommodoreAttack | never mind just found it |
| 01:39.32 | grepper | ok |
| 01:39.33 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: sure you do, lol |
| 01:40.06 | CommodoreAttack | I want the launcher to be either in a group on the menu or on the pannel |
| 01:40.46 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: well, if you want that for all users, edit it for the current user, then put configuration in /etc/skel and remake users |
| 01:42.22 | CommodoreAttack | So there is no way to force updates to all user's profiles and such |
| 01:42.30 | CommodoreAttack | besides eraseing them |
| 01:42.52 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: well, how exactly, you are editing configuration for only 1 user.... |
| 01:43.20 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: if you login as a different user, it reads ~/.kde which is different in his home folder |
| 01:43.47 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: you could make a joint home folders, or mount -o bind ~/.kde to /home/.*/.kde using a simple vash script as well |
| 01:44.02 | hackeron | bash script I mean |
| 01:44.26 | chendo | anyone know what dcop command to set focus to a window? |
| 01:44.31 | CommodoreAttack | Just wonder why linux hasnt taken on something MS did. In windows they have 2 profiles that merge when you login. |
| 01:44.51 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: thats done with /etc/skel in linux |
| 01:44.54 | CommodoreAttack | 1 thats is a community profile which has links and such for everyone then one that has your own personal stuff and links |
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| 01:45.17 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: well, does the main profile unset user configuration? |
| 01:45.24 | CommodoreAttack | no |
| 01:45.42 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: then exactly, if a user doesnt have that panel, it wont suddenly appear unless its the default |
| 01:45.57 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: since users can configure their panels |
| 01:46.07 | CommodoreAttack | well in windows if its in the global profile...it appears |
| 01:46.11 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: so /etc/skel is just like the main profile in windows, just far more control |
| 01:46.55 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: you can also force to change user settings if you like, again a nice simple script |
| 01:47.37 | CommodoreAttack | Is there any documentation on how to use skel? |
| 01:48.28 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: not much to explain |
| 01:48.36 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: you have ~/, you know what that is? |
| 01:48.58 | CommodoreAttack | ~ = home/username |
| 01:49.22 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: yes, when you do useradd someone, his home folder is populated with whats it in /etc/skel |
| 01:49.44 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: so just put /etc/skel/.kde/path-to-config |
| 01:50.04 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: and when you recreate users, it will put config there, or... |
| 01:50.52 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: you can do something like for i in $(users); do cp config-file /home/$i/.kde/path-to-config; done |
| 01:50.52 | CommodoreAttack | I never knew about that. |
| 01:51.12 | hackeron | that will modify config file in place for all users |
| 01:51.19 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: linux is easy :) |
| 01:52.47 | CommodoreAttack | So the menus and such are held in config files? |
| 01:52.57 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: ofcourse, where else :) |
| 01:53.14 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: also, you may want to force only 1 setting, so sed might be very useful |
| 01:53.18 | CommodoreAttack | In windows all menus are stored as a folder heirachy |
| 01:53.19 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: like: |
| 01:53.33 | CommodoreAttack | you create them as a dir structure |
| 01:53.42 | CommodoreAttack | moving links arround and such |
| 01:53.47 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: sed 's/OPTION=.*/OPTION=myopt/' -i path-to-file |
| 01:54.51 | CommodoreAttack | I updated my open office and the launchers it makes by default nolonger work (cause the paths for distro rpms and the ones from openoffice use different paths |
| 01:55.13 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: so full thing is something like: for user in $(users); do sed 's/OPTION=.*/OPTION=myopt/' -i /home/$user/.kde/path-to-config; done |
| 01:55.34 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: also, dont use rpm distros as a rule of thumbs ;) |
| 01:56.06 | CommodoreAttack | I compiled openoffice from their installer |
| 01:56.11 | CommodoreAttack | *source I think it was* |
| 01:56.30 | hackeron | CommodoreAttack: installer isnt source, unless it took about 15 hours to install :) |
| 01:56.45 | CommodoreAttack | Well I have a fairly powerful computer here |
| 01:56.50 | CommodoreAttack | Dual Atholon 1500 MP |
| 01:56.55 | CommodoreAttack | 512 DDR |
| 01:56.56 | hackeron | ok, 8 hours |
| 01:57.12 | CommodoreAttack | it didnt...must have been compiled |
| 01:57.14 | hackeron | openoffice is huge, a lot to compile |
| 01:57.33 | CommodoreAttack | Going to update to FC2 when I can get the disks |
| 01:57.38 | hackeron | takes all day on my 2500+, takes nearly a week on 400mhz :) |
| 01:57.44 | hackeron | no, dont |
| 01:57.56 | CommodoreAttack | I cannot update my KDE to the newest version because I always get crap corrupt downloads of the files I need for it |
| 01:57.57 | hackeron | just install a sane distro, either gentoo or something debian based |
| 01:58.04 | hackeron | try xandros 2 if you want something easy |
| 01:58.17 | CommodoreAttack | They updated to 3.2 with FC2 |
| 01:58.26 | hackeron | I'm on 3.3 on gentoo |
| 01:58.34 | hackeron | and debian is getting 3.2.3 soon |
| 01:58.41 | hackeron | so 3.2.0 is VERY out of date :) |
| 01:59.01 | CommodoreAttack | sorry...was trying to copy the url from the topic |
| 01:59.28 | CommodoreAttack | I guess I should download source code version of KDE |
| 02:00.01 | hackeron | havent tried but there are installers on kde.org that will compile everything for you automatically |
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| 02:00.41 | CommodoreAttack | Was wondering...whats the url to the KDE yum reposotory |
| 02:02.30 | thiago | SuSE right? |
| 02:02.46 | CommodoreAttack | FC |
| 02:02.48 | CommodoreAttack | *Fedora Core* |
| 02:02.53 | thiago | ah |
| 02:03.01 | CommodoreAttack | others use yum as well |
| 02:03.08 | thiago | well, Red Hat places some of their RPMs in ftp.kde.org |
| 02:03.13 | thiago | check it there, there might be instructions |
| 02:03.28 | thiago | however, we don't recommend Red Hat's packages. Try kde-redhat.sf.net's |
| 02:03.52 | CommodoreAttack | are these any good? |
| 02:03.54 | CommodoreAttack | http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2.2/RedHat/Fedora/SRPMS/ |
| 02:04.03 | CommodoreAttack | or are those the Redhat ones |
| 02:04.13 | thiago | looks like Red Hat's |
| 02:04.27 | thiago | source code |
| 02:04.32 | CommodoreAttack | http://mirrors.isc.org/pub/kde/stable/3.2.2/src/ |
| 02:04.42 | CommodoreAttack | thats the non-distro specific source code? |
| 02:04.43 | thiago | KDE's source code |
| 02:04.56 | thiago | KDE's source code is never distro-specific |
| 02:05.07 | thiago | the SRPMS, however, are (they are not released by KDE) |
| 02:05.47 | CommodoreAttack | how can I get wget to envoke on an http address? |
| 02:05.55 | thiago | wget http-address |
| 02:06.08 | CommodoreAttack | it returns an 404 page not found |
| 02:06.14 | thiago | try a page that exists |
| 02:06.16 | thiago | :-) |
| 02:06.19 | CommodoreAttack | on the source code url |
| 02:06.24 | CommodoreAttack | I want to download every file |
| 02:06.51 | CommodoreAttack | or are there some source code files I dont need? |
| 02:07.02 | thiago | well, what *do* you need? |
| 02:07.22 | thiago | if you want to get many files, I recommend an FTP mirror. |
| 02:07.30 | thiago | download by mask: *.tar.bz2 |
| 02:07.42 | CommodoreAttack | basically the full english distrobution of it |
| 02:08.01 | CommodoreAttack | *applicaitons and such included* |
| 02:08.03 | thiago | every .tar.bz2 then. Just don't download the kde-i18n subdir |
| 02:08.19 | CommodoreAttack | whats kde-i18n dir? |
| 02:08.39 | CommodoreAttack | do I need any files from there at all? |
| 02:08.59 | thiago | you don't need i18n if you want everything in English |
| 02:09.23 | CommodoreAttack | wow, you have an mirror at FSU? |
| 02:09.55 | thiago | I don't have anything :-) |
| 02:10.02 | CommodoreAttack | no |
| 02:10.05 | CommodoreAttack | I ment KDE in general |
| 02:10.11 | thiago | I don't know |
| 02:10.17 | thiago | check our mirrors page on www.kde.org |
| 02:10.19 | CommodoreAttack | I saw one on the page |
| 02:10.30 | CommodoreAttack | I live only about 50 to 60 miles from there |
| 02:10.41 | CommodoreAttack | that means I shoudl get a decent download speed |
| 02:10.47 | thiago | physical distance doesn't really equate to network distance |
| 02:11.22 | thiago | I get better speeds from a certain server in Valencia, Spain (some 9000 km away) than from a server in Curitiba (500 km) |
| 02:11.49 | CommodoreAttack | my town is on a fiber link with the city FSU is in |
| 02:11.56 | thiago | oh, ok |
| 02:12.01 | thiago | that should be good then |
| 02:12.20 | CommodoreAttack | but I am on a dial up to the ISP that is on some connection to the telco which has the fiber links |
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| 02:13.01 | thiago | get broadband already |
| 02:13.08 | thiago | anyways, what computer are you on? |
| 02:13.33 | CommodoreAttack | This is a home built system |
| 02:13.38 | CommodoreAttack | at my house |
| 02:13.46 | CommodoreAttack | the Dual Atholons |
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| 02:13.56 | thiago | I want to estimate how long it should take to compile KDE |
| 02:13.59 | CommodoreAttack | with 512 MB PC2100 GForce 2 MX 400 |
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| 02:14.16 | CommodoreAttack | Atholons at about 1.21 Ghz |
| 02:14.24 | thiago | dual athlons? |
| 02:14.26 | CommodoreAttack | *cause they are MP 1500* |
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| 02:14.34 | CommodoreAttack | yes |
| 02:14.39 | CommodoreAttack | I am running SMP kernal |
| 02:14.44 | CommodoreAttack | with an SMP board |
| 02:14.59 | CommodoreAttack | Tyan Tiger MP |
| 02:15.03 | thiago | one of those should be able to compile the full KDE 3.2.2 sources on about 11-13 hours (make -j2) |
| 02:15.14 | CommodoreAttack | SB5,1 sound. |
| 02:15.25 | CommodoreAttack | I think the compilers and such are SMP capable |
| 02:15.33 | thiago | maybe more, thanks to automake |
| 02:15.54 | CommodoreAttack | Cant I tie it into both processers and get it done faster |
| 02:16.14 | chendo | make -j3 |
| 02:16.21 | chendo | general rule is number of CPUs + 1 |
| 02:16.46 | chendo | i actually use make -j9 |
| 02:16.49 | thiago | CommodoreAttack: both processors would do that |
| 02:16.58 | thiago | one single processor would take at least 23 hours |
| 02:17.06 | CommodoreAttack | will probally leave it on over night (when i get a good non-stormy night). |
| 02:17.09 | chendo | my server does 2 distcc slots, my main box and laptop does 3 each |
| 02:17.20 | chendo | thiago: it takes that long? |
| 02:17.28 | CommodoreAttack | distrobuted computing |
| 02:17.31 | thiago | chendo: aye |
| 02:17.40 | chendo | my KDE compile was under 8 hours, methink |
| 02:17.40 | chendo | s |
| 02:17.49 | chendo | but then again, i have a distcc network ;o |
| 02:17.50 | CommodoreAttack | I wonder if I could beowolf my RH9 machine into this |
| 02:18.03 | CommodoreAttack | it only has a 160 mhz processer |
| 02:18.06 | thiago | chendo: I compile with distcc+ccache on an Athlon 1.4 GHz, plus one 550 and one 333 computer |
| 02:18.11 | thiago | it takes no less than 16 hours |
| 02:18.11 | chendo | rofl |
| 02:18.18 | chendo | don't bother, it'll be a bottleneck |
| 02:18.33 | CommodoreAttack | got to eat |
| 02:18.36 | CommodoreAttack | BBL |
| 02:18.39 | chendo | thiago: i found that ccache took too much memory for my liking :/ |
| 02:18.40 | thiago | don't add a machine that slow unless you are running icecream and unsermake |
| 02:18.48 | thiago | instead of ccache and automake |
| 02:18.48 | chendo | my server's the bottleneck on my distcc network (600mhz) |
| 02:19.05 | chendo | icecream? |
| 02:19.19 | grepper | thiago: how is unsermake working for compiling HEAD atm ? |
| 02:19.41 | grepper | I should use unsermake if using distcc ? |
| 02:19.57 | thiago | grepper: it can't compile kdeedu. The rest works just fine. |
| 02:20.09 | grepper | cool |
| 02:20.11 | thiago | yes, you should prefer unsermake, since it does a flat compilation |
| 02:20.17 | thiago | i.e., it doesn't go into subdirs |
| 02:20.29 | grepper | I think puetzk said the same thing a while back |
| 02:20.38 | thiago | that way, you don't get bottlenecked by a slow machine finishing its compilation while all the others wait |
| 02:20.49 | grepper | right |
| 02:20.58 | chendo | yeah, that's what happens to me |
| 02:21.09 | chendo | so i killed the distcc on my server for the time being |
| 02:21.12 | grepper | it would be nice if linking were distributable |
| 02:21.27 | grepper | kde spends a lot of time doing that, and distcc doesn't help there |
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| 02:22.46 | siimo | hi can anyone tell me how to install extra widgets in kde 3.2.2 > |
| 02:23.00 | thiago | that wouldn't be wise to do |
| 02:23.05 | siimo | i.e. styles |
| 02:23.07 | thiago | linking requires libraries to be available throughout |
| 02:23.15 | thiago | you'd need NFSed builddir |
| 02:23.22 | grepper | ok |
| 02:23.26 | siimo | what |
| 02:23.32 | thiago | more than that: homogeneous installation, to get all libraries there |
| 02:23.43 | grepper | not a good solution as I'm running distcc from a 50 meg CD with no HD ;) |
| 02:23.45 | thiago | siimo: distcc building of KDE |
| 02:23.58 | thiago | grepper: agreed |
| 02:24.27 | grepper | actually running from ram on a dodgy computer so there is no cd either |
| 02:24.27 | thiago | you'd need real clustering like MPI for that to work |
| 02:24.31 | siimo | i have to rebuild kde to get extra styles? |
| 02:24.42 | thiago | siimo: no |
| 02:24.43 | grepper | ok |
| 02:24.47 | thiago | I haven't answered your question. |
| 02:25.17 | thiago | grepper: if you're compiling KDE from CVS, use unsermake |
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| 02:25.34 | grepper | thiago: cool, I will as soon as kdelibs finishes |
| 02:25.35 | thiago | and you can replace distcc with icecream. I hear it can do load balancing. |
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| 02:25.41 | grepper | I tried it once in the past |
| 02:25.54 | grepper | oh, haven't heard of icecream too much |
| 02:26.05 | thiago | kdenonbeta |
| 02:26.05 | ardy | how do I get kdevelop my C/C++ project with specific libs? |
| 02:26.05 | grepper | except of course Hagen-Daz |
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| 02:26.20 | ardy | *sorry -- 'with' |
| 02:26.20 | thiago | ardy: which ones? |
| 02:26.38 | ardy | thiago: gl, glut, glu, m , X11 |
| 02:27.17 | thiago | what kind of build environment are you using? automake? |
| 02:27.39 | ardy | yeah.. and kdevelop 3.0.3 |
| 02:28.03 | thiago | well, one option is to edit the Makefile.am file |
| 02:28.16 | thiago | but I think KDevelop has a dialog somewhere that lets you specify which libs to use |
| 02:28.29 | thiago | sorry, I don't use KDevelop |
| 02:28.35 | ardy | where?.. I've been trying to find it.. |
| 02:28.37 | thiago | try #kdevelop |
| 02:28.45 | grepper | http://www.matha.rwth-aachen.de/~ingo/kde/icemon_in_action1.png |
| 02:28.48 | ardy | join #kdevelop |
| 02:28.55 | grepper | I may try it just for the monitor ;) |
| 02:29.31 | thiago | grepper: distcc has a monitor too |
| 02:29.33 | siimo | can someone help me please? i have the theme right here just dont know how to put it so control center will show it |
| 02:29.37 | grepper | I wonder how much it will bloat my CD though |
| 02:29.46 | grepper | thiago: yeah, got it running |
| 02:30.09 | grepper | if I need qt etc, may not be a good replacement for my present situation |
| 02:30.28 | thiago | I think you'd need |
| 02:30.44 | thiago | for the monitor, at least. The daemon, I'm pretty sure you won't. |
| 02:30.45 | ardy | thiago: no one is responding... |
| 02:30.57 | grepper | distcc: Installed-Size: 344 |
| 02:31.12 | thiago | ardy: bad luck, sorry |
| 02:31.30 | ardy | thiago: nevermind... someone responded... |
| 02:32.47 | thiago | moving on to the bed. good night. |
| 02:34.54 | grepper | night thiago |
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| 02:37.25 | sulkd | anyone read a good application programming tutorial for kde? I don't really feel like using an IDE like kdevelop to do everything.. |
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| 02:47.20 | jcurry | Is there any dcop call that will close the active window, not just run xkill (kwin.KWinInterface.killWindow)? |
| 02:47.22 | AssociateX | Hello |
| 02:49.59 | teatime | sulkd: kdevelop may be nice, but you sure have to do a lot of work yourself ;) |
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| 02:51.29 | sandy_obrien | hi |
| 02:51.41 | sandy_obrien | can someone tell me what my kde prefix is? i'm running fedora |
| 02:51.55 | grepper | kde-config --prefix |
| 02:52.28 | sandy_obrien | oh, no. i have a command that is asking prefix={insertkdeprefix} |
| 02:53.27 | grepper | prefix=$(kde-config --prefix) |
| 02:53.41 | sandy_obrien | ok thnks |
| 02:54.03 | grepper | make sure that command gives you some output ;) |
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| 03:03.25 | Borg^Queen | Hi people. I'm having trouble with LimeWire. I'm at a computer that suddenly doesn't allow the use of LimeWire by anyone other than root. So its a perm problem but I can't figure it out. |
| 03:03.53 | Borg^Queen | The first error it gives me is "java.lang.RuntimeException: settings dir not writable" |
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| 03:04.43 | ironfroggy | Borg^Queen: did it work before? |
| 03:05.13 | Borg^Queen | Aye it did. But I had to reprogram the computer. I saved the home dir where it was contained |
| 03:06.03 | ironfroggy | try an ls -l -R | grep root to see if root owns any of the files for some reason? |
| 03:06.30 | Borg^Queen | I checked it doesn't seem to |
| 03:07.02 | ironfroggy | have you changed something with your JVM? |
| 03:07.46 | Borg^Queen | Just reloaded it |
| 03:08.28 | ironfroggy | i dont know enough about it, sorry. was hoping i could help. |
| 03:08.48 | Borg^Queen | That's ok. |
| 03:09.28 | Borg^Queen | Not 40 minutes after I reprogrammed it, the jerk who says he's "an expert" started deleting "unneeded file". |
| 03:09.36 | Borg^Queen | So I have to reprogram it. |
| 03:09.52 | Borg^Queen | The boss has finally agreed not to give him any of the root pws |
| 03:09.52 | ironfroggy | what a nice jerk. |
| 03:10.00 | Borg^Queen | Nice crack monkey |
| 03:10.05 | Borg^Queen | SIT! SIT! |
| 03:10.24 | Borg^Queen | What do you think this means? |
| 03:10.32 | Borg^Queen | "java.lang.RuntimeException: settings dir not writable" |
| 03:10.59 | ironfroggy | no idea what directory it means? |
| 03:11.46 | Borg^Queen | It's followed by a load of crap |
| 03:11.52 | Borg^Queen | Go to flood |
| 03:12.02 | Borg^Queen | stuff like |
| 03:12.07 | Borg^Queen | at com.limegroup.gnutella.util.CommonUtils.getUserSettingsDir(CommonUtils.java:737) |
| 03:14.04 | Borg^Queen | I think I found it |
| 03:14.27 | Borg^Queen | The pus bomb, changed perms in the user directories to him |
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| 03:15.20 | Borg^Queen | So that's what that little red button does |
| 03:15.24 | Borg^Queen | Anyway, I fixed it. |
| 03:15.28 | ironfroggy | goodby.. oh, hello again! |
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| 03:15.34 | Borg^Queen | And the boss just fixed it too. |
| 03:15.50 | Borg^Queen | They just got into a big fight, 4 seconds it was over lol |
| 03:16.36 | Borg^Queen | And he's OUTA HERE! Wooo HOOOOO |
| 03:16.45 | Borg^Queen | Life can be good |
| 03:16.49 | ironfroggy | can i put in an application? |
| 03:17.13 | ironfroggy | i dont mind advancing myself through other people's loses. really! |
| 03:17.41 | Borg^Queen | I didn't advance, I just got rid of a headache |
| 03:18.03 | Borg^Queen | Festering bag of luke warm hampster vomite |
| 03:18.12 | Borg^Queen | Did I spell vomite correctly? |
| 03:18.23 | Borg^Queen | LOL |
| 03:18.46 | ironfroggy | hmm.. i like that pronounciation of it. it sounds mysticaly, but its really just up-chuck! |
| 03:19.01 | Borg^Queen | ah ok |
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| 03:25.50 | AssociateX | anyone using teamspeak? how do I admin the server that I have started? |
| 03:26.27 | Borg^Queen | Sorry don't even know what it is |
| 03:26.36 | AppleServer | I'm trying to get KATE onto gentoo, but i can't seem to find any port under KATE or a download package from the web, so how would i get it? |
| 03:26.54 | AppleServer | AssociateX: best bet is the web interface, forgot the details but checkout www.teamspeak.org |
| 03:27.08 | AssociateX | thank you |
| 03:27.13 | AppleServer | np |
| 03:27.20 | chendo | AppleServer: up, kate is part of the kdebase apps or something |
| 03:27.24 | chendo | uh* |
| 03:28.00 | chendo | root@lucifer root # qpkg -f /usr/kde/3.2/bin/kate |
| 03:28.02 | chendo | kde-base/kdebase * |
| 03:28.05 | AppleServer | chendo: argg |
| 03:28.10 | AppleServer | ok, thanks |
| 03:28.15 | ironfroggy | does 170 sound pricey for a 250 gig SATA? |
| 03:28.15 | chendo | np |
| 03:28.38 | AppleServer | ironfroggy: not really, but wait for a little while before buying a big HD unless you really need it |
| 03:28.49 | AppleServer | bigger ones are on the way ;) |
| 03:29.01 | ironfroggy | AppleServer: well i already need a bigger drive (stuck with 40 now) |
| 03:29.15 | ironfroggy | and i dont wanna get anything smaller than ill need within the next long time. |
| 03:29.47 | AppleServer | well, then the 250gb would be ok, but remember that read time is slow as it fills |
| 03:29.50 | AppleServer | :/ |
| 03:30.10 | AppleServer | and i still can't figure out why i'm using 431mb of ram |
| 03:30.11 | ironfroggy | maybe i should consider a RAID? |
| 03:30.15 | AppleServer | and how to purge it :( |
| 03:30.19 | ironfroggy | pffft, thats it? |
| 03:30.22 | AppleServer | ironfroggy: what kind of stuff do you do? |
| 03:30.33 | ironfroggy | im using 820 megs. |
| 03:30.46 | ironfroggy | which reminds me, i need some more RAM, too. |
| 03:30.46 | AppleServer | ironfroggy: considering all i have running is firefox, one terminal, xchat, and xfce4 i would say yes, that is a lot |
| 03:31.03 | AppleServer | my laptop runs that on 72mb |
| 03:31.20 | AppleServer | my guess is its from emerging stuff, but i want to know how to purge it :( |
| 03:31.43 | ironfroggy | AppleServer: do lots of graphics work and im in the process of combining all my stock, which totals over 550,000 total images. |
| 03:32.03 | AppleServer | that could explain it |
| 03:32.28 | ironfroggy | yeah and i plan to double it within a year or two. |
| 03:32.36 | chendo | AppleServer: if it's counting cached ram, don't worry about it |
| 03:32.42 | AppleServer | eqnt |
| 03:32.48 | AppleServer | err |
| 03:32.50 | AppleServer | dang* |
| 03:33.01 | AppleServer | chendo: not cashed, actual ram |
| 03:33.10 | AppleServer | err, not swap anyways |
| 03:33.13 | AppleServer | if that's what you mean |
| 03:33.20 | chendo | cached != swap |
| 03:33.26 | AppleServer | ironfroggy: have any extra time to do an image for me? |
| 03:33.29 | AppleServer | chendo: ok |
| 03:33.48 | ironfroggy | AppleServer: what do you need? |
| 03:33.48 | chendo | linux tries to use as much ram as possible to speed up file IO |
| 03:34.02 | chendo | mainly by storing previously used files into ram |
| 03:34.15 | AppleServer | I have an internet cafe and need a logo, the title is "Random Voids" |
| 03:34.27 | ironfroggy | any particular style you need? |
| 03:34.31 | AppleServer | not really |
| 03:34.40 | AppleServer | not white bg though |
| 03:34.45 | ironfroggy | PM me an e-mail and ill contact you |
| 03:35.20 | AppleServer | i got too many projects going on |
| 03:39.00 | AppleServer | chendo: i know, but when i want to get rid of old stuff without having to reboot :/ |
| 03:39.38 | chendo | you can't really do that.. |
| 03:39.42 | AppleServer | oh |
| 03:39.44 | AppleServer | dang |
| 03:40.17 | AppleServer | on my server it's not so bad, but on my laptop when i'm done using stuff and i'm on batt i don't want to waste the power |
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| 03:40.52 | chendo | um... |
| 03:41.03 | chendo | it's the CPU that mainly chews up power |
| 03:41.07 | AppleServer | i know |
| 03:41.10 | chendo | as i said, linux uses as much ram as possible |
| 03:41.12 | CommodoreAttack | Can someone help me configure kppp to work with a firestarter firewall configuration? |
| 03:41.19 | AppleServer | chendo: i know the reason |
| 03:41.27 | AppleServer | anywho, i'm out |
| 03:41.28 | chendo | then don't complain ;p |
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| 03:43.52 | CommodoreAttack | Does anyone know which script kppp executes when dialing? |
| 03:44.14 | CommodoreAttack | I need to change the dial up process so that once it connects it will run a command to execute my firewall and iptables |
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| 03:45.35 | loading | hellpo |
| 03:45.38 | loading | hello |
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| 03:47.45 | CommodoreAttack | Anyone here who knows which scripts KPPP uses? |
| 03:50.26 | AbsTradELic | hi |
| 03:50.57 | AbsTradELic | exist a TTS program to kde ? |
| 03:51.21 | grepper | anyone know anything about the "icecream" program ? |
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| 03:56.00 | chendo | it's new |
| 03:56.02 | chendo | 0.1, IIRC |
| 04:00.50 | grepper | chendo: doesn't want to compile for me |
| 04:02.02 | grepper | object `foo.$(OBJEXT)' created both with libtool and without |
| 04:02.47 | grepper | can't get past make -f Makefile.cvs |
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| 04:52.55 | Vixtro | ... |
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| 05:52.48 | sandy_obrien | how i set kde as my default window manager |
| 05:52.58 | sandy_obrien | i already selected it at log in |
| 05:53.28 | Vixtro | ? |
| 05:53.34 | Vixtro | what do you use? |
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| 05:54.36 | programmer90 | I have a strange problem, all my hardware is configged properly becuase Gnome works fine, but in Debian I cant even start KDE it crashes when it gets to the devices parts an dpripherals |
| 06:00.24 | Vixtro | did you check the buffer output? |
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| 06:11.15 | programmer90 | no lol |
| 06:11.48 | Vixtro | that might help |
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| 06:14.37 | Gujin | hey I installed a superkaramba theme and it uses the fonts neuropol and nimbus sans, but I don't have them, how can I get them? |
| 06:14.55 | Vixtro | www.google.com |
| 06:14.57 | Vixtro | :D |
| 06:15.00 | Vixtro | i'll look |
| 06:15.34 | Gujin | arghh it costs money |
| 06:15.39 | Vixtro | http://www.fontfinder.ws/8253/Neuropol.html |
| 06:15.59 | Gujin | ho thanks |
| 06:16.24 | Vixtro | god i hate mozilla |
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| 06:23.18 | AbsTradE1ic | anyone use ksayit |
| 06:23.21 | AbsTradE1ic | ? |
| 06:24.30 | Vixtro | no |
| 06:24.33 | Vixtro | im still compiling kde |
| 06:24.40 | Vixtro | on freebsd!! |
| 06:24.41 | Vixtro | :D |
| 06:25.53 | AbsTradE1ic | i'm having problems with mbrola |
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| 06:29.54 | atomik | slt |
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| 06:41.10 | AbsTradE1ic | anyone here use mbrola ? |
| 06:42.55 | sandy_obrien | how i set kde as my default window manager |
| 06:42.56 | sandy_obrien | i already selected it at log in |
| 06:46.18 | Vixtro | do you use xdm or kdm? |
| 06:46.21 | Vixtro | or gdm? |
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| 06:54.42 | Duelist | My apologies if this is the wrong place to ask, but I'm having trouble getting part of a KSpread spreadsheet into a KWord document as a table... is there something I am missing here? |
| 06:55.06 | Duelist | Oh, and I already asked in #koffice, which appears to be dead |
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