| 00:00.19 | DARKGuy | 300 lines for a space shooter ain't good |
| 00:00.19 | DARKGuy | and it's not finished yet |
| 00:00.38 | DARKGuy | and most of it is just GP2D setup stuff |
| 00:01.04 | adamorjames | the code is organized tho? |
| 00:01.15 | DARKGuy | yeah, but it's still too long |
| 00:01.30 | adamorjames | as long as it's organized it's good enough |
| 00:01.40 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:01.43 | DARKGuy | it's too long still |
| 00:01.48 | DARKGuy | and collisions started to be a problem |
| 00:01.57 | adamorjames | you saying you can shorten it? |
| 00:02.02 | DARKGuy | I'll try |
| 00:02.05 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:02.18 | DARKGuy | I'm having a... different concept I want to apply to it |
| 00:02.28 | adamorjames | does that space shooter work? |
| 00:02.33 | DARKGuy | it does |
| 00:02.46 | adamorjames | ooh |
| 00:02.52 | adamorjames | you got the full source? |
| 00:02.58 | adamorjames | the images and such |
| 00:02.58 | DARKGuy | that's the full source |
| 00:03.06 | DARKGuy | bah I need to submit the whole project |
| 00:03.10 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:03.19 | DARKGuy | which I don't want to because it's a mess |
| 00:03.23 | DARKGuy | I'll try something. |
| 00:03.27 | DARKGuy | away |
| 00:03.42 | adamorjames | watches DG fly away |
| 00:03.47 | adamorjames | :O |
| 00:03.51 | Judo | NYAN NYAN NIHAO NYAN |
| 00:04.15 | Judo | DARKGuy, does this mean you're abandoning GP2D once again? |
| 00:04.22 | DARKGuy`coding | the input handler takes too much space too |
| 00:04.24 | DARKGuy`coding | Judo: nah I'm not |
| 00:04.27 | DARKGuy`coding | I'm just changing it |
| 00:04.50 | DARKGuy`coding | I mean look at all that code |
| 00:04.54 | DARKGuy`coding | it's huge for something so simple |
| 00:05.05 | DARKGuy`coding | it isn't finished yet, and collisions are a problem there |
| 00:05.09 | DARKGuy`coding | with so many objects |
| 00:05.22 | DARKGuy`coding | can't assign all the possible collisions because collisions are set to a specific object |
| 00:05.30 | DARKGuy`coding | so I have to set all the possible combinations |
| 00:05.32 | DARKGuy`coding | it isn't practical |
| 00:05.38 | DARKGuy`coding | and complicated to do, code-wise |
| 00:05.40 | adamorjames | coughs |
| 00:05.43 | adamorjames | IT SUCKS |
| 00:05.50 | DARKGuy`coding | a little |
| 00:05.50 | adamorjames | <.< |
| 00:06.32 | adamorjames | tho it looks very readable |
| 00:06.46 | DARKGuy`coding | thanks XD. |
| 00:06.48 | DARKGuy`coding | Hmmm |
| 00:06.51 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:06.57 | DARKGuy`coding | what about a ruby/python/lua wrapper? |
| 00:07.16 | DARKGuy`coding | lua is a bit complicated to make work |
| 00:07.27 | DARKGuy`coding | but python looked very nice, from what theY4Kman did some time ago |
| 00:08.38 | adamorjames | sounds reasonable... |
| 00:08.48 | adamorjames | if the speed stays fast.. |
| 00:09.06 | DARKGuy`coding | it should |
| 00:09.06 | adamorjames | which none of us really know if it will |
| 00:09.12 | DARKGuy`coding | hahahahah |
| 00:09.12 | DARKGuy`coding | http://arch.har-ikkje.net/gfx/5000internet.jpeg |
| 00:09.13 | adamorjames | in theory it should |
| 00:09.15 | DARKGuy`coding | this is win |
| 00:09.15 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:09.16 | DARKGuy`coding | yeah |
| 00:09.45 | adamorjames | Judo would love that |
| 00:09.47 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:09.51 | adamorjames | weaboo |
| 00:10.21 | adamorjames | Judo is a weaboo! |
| 00:10.51 | adamorjames | DARKGuy`coding: try it and see what happens eh |
| 00:10.52 | Judo | right well, when you're done with that, I'll screw around with physics |
| 00:11.03 | Judo | DESU DESU |
| 00:11.19 | DARKGuy`coding | DESUDESUDESU |
| 00:11.29 | Judo | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-94JhLEiN0&fmt=18 |
| 00:11.29 | DARKGuy`coding | hm |
| 00:11.34 | Judo | greatest wedding EVER |
| 00:11.38 | DARKGuy`coding | I'm gonna take a bath and think what can I do with gp2d... |
| 00:11.45 | Judo | you must watch that video |
| 00:11.51 | adamorjames | I can't watch it |
| 00:11.58 | adamorjames | especially not hd |
| 00:12.01 | adamorjames | or hq |
| 00:12.06 | DARKGuy`coding | hey look |
| 00:12.08 | DARKGuy`coding | hq video |
| 00:12.24 | adamorjames | maybe if I downloaded it.. |
| 00:12.32 | adamorjames | but too much effort |
| 00:12.33 | DARKGuy`coding | what theee... |
| 00:12.37 | DARKGuy`coding | hell |
| 00:12.43 | adamorjames | ? |
| 00:12.55 | adamorjames | let me guess |
| 00:13.01 | adamorjames | cosplay wedding? |
| 00:13.23 | DARKGuy`coding | no |
| 00:13.24 | DARKGuy`coding | LOL |
| 00:13.26 | DARKGuy`coding | handwalk |
| 00:13.27 | DARKGuy`coding | sweet |
| 00:13.31 | adamorjames | o_O |
| 00:14.44 | adamorjames | hey DARKGuy`coding |
| 00:14.50 | adamorjames | what's up with the f's? |
| 00:14.55 | DARKGuy`coding | f's ? |
| 00:15.01 | adamorjames | objBorderRight->setPosition(496.0f, 480.0f); |
| 00:15.18 | DARKGuy`coding | floats |
| 00:15.21 | adamorjames | ah |
| 00:15.39 | adamorjames | that's not in Python |
| 00:15.45 | adamorjames | tho longs are |
| 00:15.54 | adamorjames | anyways |
| 00:16.33 | Judo | in Python, it's practically the same |
| 00:16.35 | Judo | 1 vs. 1.0 |
| 00:16.38 | adamorjames | yep |
| 00:16.41 | Judo | you can add an f if you want |
| 00:16.44 | adamorjames | so DARKGuy`coding |
| 00:16.44 | Judo | is pretty sure |
| 00:16.53 | adamorjames | what does all that math stuff do? |
| 00:17.02 | DARKGuy`coding | eh? |
| 00:17.03 | adamorjames | there's no comments |
| 00:17.08 | DARKGuy`coding | no |
| 00:17.10 | DARKGuy`coding | it's a test |
| 00:17.16 | DARKGuy`coding | I don't usually comment anything |
| 00:17.23 | DARKGuy`coding | unless it's finished or I have to share it with somebody else |
| 00:17.32 | adamorjames | getWidth()/2, -240.0f); |
| 00:17.37 | adamorjames | why a negative width? |
| 00:17.45 | DARKGuy`coding | because the coordinate system is messed up |
| 00:18.09 | adamorjames | sigh.. |
| 00:18.21 | adamorjames | DARKGuy DARKGuy DARKGuy |
| 00:18.25 | adamorjames | shakes head |
| 00:18.30 | adamorjames | :( |
| 00:18.33 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:18.46 | adamorjames | you should fix the coordinate system before testing |
| 00:18.53 | adamorjames | geez |
| 00:19.13 | adamorjames | the coordinate system is like a basic part of the engine |
| 00:19.27 | adamorjames | geez |
| 00:19.33 | adamorjames | GEEZ DARKGUY |
| 00:19.35 | DARKGuy`coding | I know |
| 00:19.39 | DARKGuy`coding | brb in some mins. |
| 00:19.43 | adamorjames | ok |
| 00:20.19 | adamorjames | odd time to wash up |
| 00:20.31 | adamorjames | I take a shower in the morning usually |
| 00:32.17 | Judo | adamorjames: coordinates with SDL/OpenGL are different from what you're taught in geometry |
| 00:32.27 | Judo | the Y coordinates are inverted, or something stupid like that |
| 00:32.38 | Judo | it's a pain |
| 00:48.32 | adamorjames | hey Judo |
| 00:48.40 | adamorjames | Naruto 119 and 120! |
| 00:48.48 | Judo | Kakashi Gaiden isn't out yet! |
| 00:48.55 | adamorjames | so close! |
| 00:48.59 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:49.18 | Judo | and it's so awesome, too |
| 00:49.24 | Judo | BUT |
| 00:49.30 | Judo | it still doesn't explain why he wears a goddamn mask! |
| 00:49.38 | Judo | which he wore back then, too |
| 00:49.48 | Judo | so he's been wearing that thing at least 17 years |
| 00:49.52 | Judo | no, 19 |
| 00:49.59 | adamorjames | nope Judo |
| 00:50.15 | adamorjames | he had to get a bigger mask |
| 00:50.18 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:50.28 | adamorjames | he's been wearing it since he was a baby |
| 00:50.40 | adamorjames | if the rumors are true |
| 00:50.42 | adamorjames | <.< |
| 00:51.10 | adamorjames | he was born with it on |
| 00:51.19 | adamorjames | xD |
| 00:51.23 | Judo | I know you can't watch it, but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GsDQdvskcA&fmt=22 |
| 00:51.27 | Judo | HD preview of Kakashi Gaiden |
| 00:51.40 | Judo | honestly, I want to wear the mask, too |
| 00:51.43 | Judo | which is why I'm going to make it |
| 00:55.11 | adamorjames | IIII'm tired |
| 00:55.15 | adamorjames | zzz |
| 01:01.46 | Judo | adamorjames, I'm watching the first episode of NS dubbed and they just made the most awesome pun ever |
| 01:02.09 | Judo | when sakura goes to the the gate just after naruto returns, the guy tells her "You gotta see it to believe it." |
| 01:02.18 | Judo | "....believe it." |
| 01:04.33 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:05.07 | adamorjames | you should watch the first epsisode in Japanese |
| 01:05.17 | adamorjames | and learn every word in it xD |
| 01:19.22 | adamorjames | that's your homework Judo |
| 01:19.25 | adamorjames | >:| |
| 01:19.37 | Judo | memorize the Japanese script?! |
| 01:19.40 | Judo | my Japanese isn't that good :( |
| 01:20.29 | adamorjames | not memorize |
| 01:20.37 | adamorjames | just learn what words you don't know |
| 01:20.49 | Judo | that's pretty much half of it |
| 01:20.52 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:20.58 | adamorjames | good good |
| 01:21.07 | adamorjames | then you'll learn a lot |
| 01:21.16 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:24.40 | DARKGuy`bath | baaack |
| 01:26.35 | Judo | wonderful |
| 01:26.46 | Judo | DARKGuy, I want a rundown of what you're doing to GP2D and when I can work on it |
| 01:26.46 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 01:28.28 | DARKGuy | well right now it's just the same old GP2D, splitted into a few more .cpp/h for keeping mental sanity, and removed the whole makefile stuff and replaced them with a code::blocks project (which is easier imo), but it's still the same code.. if you want me to upload it, just say |
| 01:28.32 | DARKGuy | I'm just not very happy with it |
| 01:28.38 | DARKGuy | because the example is too long |
| 01:28.52 | DARKGuy | but at least it's simpler to make test programs |
| 01:29.37 | adamorjames | is working on getting the iteam site up soon |
| 01:29.52 | DARKGuy | you better :p |
| 01:30.04 | adamorjames | isn't sure if importing the forum will be hard |
| 01:30.09 | DARKGuy | so my idea is to make a ruby/python/lua wrapper for it |
| 01:30.27 | adamorjames | thinks maybe we should start a new forum |
| 01:30.33 | DARKGuy | why? |
| 01:30.35 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:30.48 | DARKGuy | eh |
| 01:30.55 | DARKGuy | I like phpbb3's forum system |
| 01:31.01 | DARKGuy | I dunno how powerful drupal's is |
| 01:31.04 | adamorjames | eh? |
| 01:31.15 | adamorjames | no no we are using a new one I am talking about the new info |
| 01:31.20 | adamorjames | (old info |
| 01:31.24 | adamorjames | *old info |
| 01:31.30 | DARKGuy | what do you mean? |
| 01:31.32 | DARKGuy | I'm confused xD |
| 01:31.44 | adamorjames | importing the data from the old forum in to the new one |
| 01:32.11 | DARKGuy | but, why? |
| 01:32.16 | adamorjames | there is ways to do it but I think it may be a pain |
| 01:32.17 | DARKGuy | the current forum has always been okay |
| 01:32.29 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: Drupal has it's own forum |
| 01:32.46 | DARKGuy | yes, but I dunno how powerful it is compared to phpbb3 |
| 01:32.48 | adamorjames | and the CSS I made works perfect with it |
| 01:33.03 | adamorjames | also Drupal's forum is more integrated |
| 01:33.15 | DARKGuy | yeah, but do you remember when we got all those wow spammers? |
| 01:33.23 | adamorjames | ? |
| 01:33.42 | DARKGuy | yeah, those users spamming wow gold sites |
| 01:33.56 | DARKGuy | can drupal handle them? |
| 01:34.30 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: http://drupal.org/node/151584 |
| 01:35.03 | adamorjames | just one way |
| 01:35.10 | adamorjames | there are others probably |
| 01:35.44 | DARKGuy | hmn |
| 01:35.45 | DARKGuy | okay |
| 01:36.04 | adamorjames | I don't want to resort to captchas tho |
| 01:36.08 | adamorjames | I hate them |
| 01:36.10 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:37.36 | adamorjames | but if the situation of spammers happen I will |
| 01:37.45 | adamorjames | *happens again |
| 01:38.03 | adamorjames | also you can probably ban by IP |
| 01:39.26 | DARKGuy | they have tons of IPs |
| 01:39.30 | DARKGuy | damn chinese |
| 01:39.34 | DARKGuy | kicks a random chinese |
| 01:39.38 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:39.59 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: there seems to be several modules for ip banning |
| 01:40.06 | adamorjames | one is even called troll xD |
| 01:40.14 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:42.41 | Judo | DARKGuy, can you post the example code and screenshot of the program? |
| 01:44.24 | DARKGuy | Judo: okay, seg |
| 01:44.25 | DARKGuy | sec |
| 01:47.16 | DARKGuy | Judo: screenshot: http://omploader.org/vMjFtZw |
| 01:48.24 | DARKGuy | Omploaded 'example1.cpp' to http://omploader.org/vMjFtaA |
| 01:48.24 | DARKGuy | Omploaded 'example1.h' to http://omploader.org/vMjFtaQ |
| 01:48.26 | DARKGuy | Judo: -^ |
| 01:50.20 | Judo | the abstraction is getting out of hand |
| 01:50.27 | DARKGuy | Judo: Omploaded 'data.zip' to http://omploader.org/vMjFtag |
| 01:50.28 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 01:50.47 | Judo | this isn't what OOP is supposed to be :( |
| 01:50.58 | DARKGuy | you got any ideas? :( |
| 01:51.14 | Judo | rewrite |
| 01:51.17 | Judo | other than that, no |
| 01:51.45 | DARKGuy | well, any concept is helpful |
| 01:51.56 | DARKGuy | my idea is to let GP2D handle the rest |
| 01:52.03 | DARKGuy | we just supply classes and init stuff |
| 01:52.12 | DARKGuy | GP2D takes care of movement and drawing |
| 01:52.26 | DARKGuy | that requires a global "buffer" of objects in the scene/game |
| 01:53.48 | Judo | I feel collisions should not be handled by separate classes and I feel we should not force, or encourage, the use of GPSprite as a class to be derived |
| 01:54.04 | Judo | GPSprite should do everything required |
| 01:54.23 | DARKGuy | GPSprite does what it's required to do |
| 01:54.36 | DARKGuy | but you gotta configure it to do whatever your game needs to do |
| 01:54.43 | Judo | or, require the use of mah PhysWorld and let me optimize shape collisions and texture collisions |
| 01:54.54 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:54.56 | DARKGuy | nobody said we wouldn't use your physworld :p |
| 01:55.39 | Judo | pygame-style: sprite.isColliding(otherSprite) == True |
| 01:55.47 | DARKGuy | that's what I want! |
| 01:55.50 | Judo | another class just for that is stupid |
| 01:56.14 | DARKGuy | yeah |
| 01:56.15 | Judo | or, better yet, physWorld->isColliding(sprite1, sprite2) |
| 01:56.28 | DARKGuy | that wouldn't work in some cases |
| 01:56.30 | Judo | if one object is controlling all collisions, it can be optimized |
| 01:56.35 | DARKGuy | imagine having 300 independent bullets |
| 01:56.41 | DARKGuy | which must collide against 30 enemies on screen |
| 01:56.55 | DARKGuy | you'll have to check an iscolliding with sprite1 against enemy1-30 |
| 01:57.07 | DARKGuy | and so on, from sprite1 to sprite300, each one against enemy1-enemy30 |
| 01:57.08 | DARKGuy | ugly :p |
| 01:57.13 | Judo | this is why it should be done by one object which has a map of all sprites |
| 01:57.26 | Judo | I can optimize it, making it, at least, 10 times faster |
| 01:57.38 | DARKGuy | that's why I had suggested the "type" idea. if an object is colliding against another OF TYPE bullet, then die() or something |
| 01:58.19 | Judo | that gets too complicated |
| 01:58.28 | DARKGuy | it makes it simpler though |
| 01:58.32 | DARKGuy | I mean |
| 01:58.38 | DARKGuy | how would you do the case I'm explaining? |
| 01:58.50 | DARKGuy | without having to link all the collisions manually like I said? |
| 01:59.09 | adamorjames | YEA YEA! |
| 01:59.18 | adamorjames | backups up DARKGuy |
| 01:59.30 | adamorjames | >:| |
| 01:59.35 | DARKGuy | o.o |
| 01:59.38 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:00.00 | adamorjames | *backs up DARKGuy |
| 02:00.22 | adamorjames | maaaan I am so close to having the iteam site open |
| 02:00.30 | DARKGuy | do it do it |
| 02:00.30 | DARKGuy | you can |
| 02:00.31 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 02:00.46 | adamorjames | the inconsistinecies and such will be fixed by your or me as time goes on |
| 02:01.01 | Judo | if you define types, you also need to define what types can and cannot collide |
| 02:01.01 | adamorjames | it just needs to be opened! |
| 02:01.04 | DARKGuy | oookay oO |
| 02:01.05 | Judo | it just seems pointless |
| 02:01.28 | DARKGuy | Judo: nah, say, if object.isColliding(typeof(bullet)) { die() } |
| 02:01.35 | Judo | and unless someone is remaking Touhou, the speed of collisions shouldn't matter that much |
| 02:01.36 | adamorjames | owned Judo |
| 02:01.41 | adamorjames | Judo got owned |
| 02:01.46 | DARKGuy | -_-' |
| 02:01.49 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:01.55 | DARKGuy | renice adamorjames -10 |
| 02:02.00 | Judo | that's not something that can be handled by the engine, if you ask me |
| 02:02.15 | DARKGuy | yeah, I know u_u; |
| 02:02.20 | DARKGuy | that's why I'm looking for alternatives |
| 02:02.22 | Judo | whatev |
| 02:02.27 | Judo | I'll work on physics some more, optimize it |
| 02:02.29 | adamorjames | WHATEV HE SAYS |
| 02:02.29 | Judo | then we'll compare |
| 02:02.35 | adamorjames | you gonna take that DARKGuy? |
| 02:02.38 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 02:02.39 | DARKGuy | okay |
| 02:02.46 | DARKGuy | the problem isn't that though |
| 02:02.56 | DARKGuy | collisions need to be remade x.x |
| 02:03.00 | DARKGuy | at least, that detection system |
| 02:03.00 | adamorjames | x.x |
| 02:03.10 | Judo | speaking of which... I hope I still have that code |
| 02:03.16 | adamorjames | you don't |
| 02:03.22 | Judo | you're not helping! |
| 02:03.26 | adamorjames | because you didn't make it open |
| 02:03.53 | DARKGuy | -.- |
| 02:04.02 | adamorjames | pokes DARKGuy |
| 02:04.03 | adamorjames | ? |
| 02:04.11 | DARKGuy | <Judo> you're not helping! |
| 02:04.12 | DARKGuy | >:( |
| 02:04.19 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:06.42 | adamorjames | fine fine |
| 02:07.05 | adamorjames | Judo: You have it! I know you do because you are so awesome! |
| 02:07.10 | adamorjames | :D |
| 02:07.21 | Judo | flattery will get you nowhere! |
| 02:07.24 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:08.04 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 02:26.43 | adamorjames | " |
| 02:26.43 | adamorjames | GP2D |
| 02:26.43 | adamorjames | Grind away on GamePower2D here! Some make call it an engine.. I call it DARKGuy's monster. |
| 02:26.43 | adamorjames | " |
| 02:26.49 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:27.03 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 02:27.13 | adamorjames | forum description :P |
| 02:28.36 | DARKGuy | hmn |
| 02:28.41 | DARKGuy | yay lack of updated lua docs |
| 02:29.03 | DARKGuy | fun but.. complicated |
| 02:29.10 | DARKGuy | I guess GP2D will need a rewrite |
| 02:29.12 | DARKGuy | *sigh* |
| 02:29.16 | Judo | I just want to get onto iteam so let's hurry this up |
| 02:29.28 | adamorjames | chop chop |
| 02:29.40 | adamorjames | accidentally cuts of his finger |
| 02:29.40 | DARKGuy | well, you can start by getting the collisions right |
| 02:29.42 | adamorjames | OMG! |
| 02:29.50 | Judo | right?! |
| 02:29.56 | Judo | what did I do wrong, huh?! |
| 02:29.56 | DARKGuy | well they are |
| 02:29.58 | Judo | >:( |
| 02:29.59 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 02:30.02 | DARKGuy | sorry sorry |
| 02:30.02 | DARKGuy | I mean |
| 02:30.06 | DARKGuy | we need the bouncing stuff |
| 02:30.06 | adamorjames | you are mean |
| 02:30.26 | DARKGuy | no, you are meaner :/ |
| 02:30.31 | Judo | oh right |
| 02:30.35 | adamorjames | no theY4Kman! |
| 02:30.47 | Judo | but you know, for the time being, I could just invert the y velocities like gp2d-old |
| 02:31.21 | Judo | finding the exact angle takes some math I haven't bothered studying yet |
| 02:31.30 | DARKGuy | but you know how messed everything ended up when that happened :p |
| 02:31.41 | DARKGuy | okay then |
| 02:31.48 | DARKGuy | as long as it works o.O |
| 02:31.53 | DARKGuy | just don't forget to change it in the future |
| 02:31.56 | adamorjames | O.o |
| 02:32.26 | adamorjames | ()_() |
| 02:32.29 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:32.51 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: finish the picture |
| 02:33.03 | adamorjames | he needs the bottom of his face |
| 02:33.21 | DARKGuy | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.28 | DARKGuy | " " |
| 02:33.34 | DARKGuy | cute xD |
| 02:33.46 | adamorjames | ? |
| 02:33.55 | adamorjames | no no |
| 02:34.04 | adamorjames | he's suppose to be a mouse |
| 02:34.09 | adamorjames | ()_() |
| 02:34.12 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:35.11 | adamorjames | ~| | |
| 02:35.16 | adamorjames | xDDD |
| 02:35.27 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: see the tail? |
| 02:35.29 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:35.44 | DARKGuy | lol |
| 02:36.02 | adamorjames | let me work on this in vi and I'll show you it finished |
| 02:47.52 | adamorjames | GP2D |
| 02:47.52 | adamorjames | Grind away on GamePower2D here! Some make call it an engine.. I call it DARKGuy's monster. |
| 02:47.55 | adamorjames | grrr |
| 02:47.59 | adamorjames | one second |
| 02:48.37 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:48.40 | adamorjames | oops |
| 02:48.42 | adamorjames | hahaha |
| 02:49.39 | adamorjames | ok it looks ok |
| 02:49.52 | Judo | /topic that |
| 02:52.04 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.04 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.04 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.05 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.05 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.07 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.09 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.12 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.14 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.17 | adamorjames | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:52.19 | adamorjames | ----------------------- |
| 02:52.22 | adamorjames | \______________________/ |
| 02:52.24 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:52.36 | Judo | spam |
| 02:52.40 | adamorjames | :( |
| 02:52.42 | adamorjames | but but |
| 02:52.45 | adamorjames | I made it |
| 02:53.38 | adamorjames | and I told you beforehand so therefore it acnnot be classified as spam under chapter 15 section 34 of the law of spam |
| 02:53.42 | adamorjames | *cannot |
| 02:53.52 | adamorjames | in your face |
| 04:26.15 | adamorjames | so |
| 04:26.17 | adamorjames | DARKGuy |
| 04:26.32 | adamorjames | I think I will open the site now to everyone |
| 04:26.43 | adamorjames | I don't really care if it's incomplete |
| 04:26.55 | DARKGuy | wheeeeeeeeeee |
| 04:27.11 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:27.19 | adamorjames | ok I am taking it off off-line mode |
| 04:27.26 | DARKGuy | whee whee whee |
| 04:27.34 | DARKGuy | suffocates the server with F5 |
| 04:27.53 | adamorjames | done |
| 04:27.58 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:28.29 | DARKGuy | heh cool |
| 04:28.30 | DARKGuy | needs a few fixes |
| 04:28.33 | DARKGuy | but looks great |
| 04:28.39 | adamorjames | yep |
| 04:29.50 | adamorjames | I just registered |
| 04:29.52 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:29.57 | adamorjames | you? |
| 04:30.37 | DARKGuy | whoa the theme isn't liquid D: |
| 04:30.44 | DARKGuy | text goes far off the right xD |
| 04:30.47 | DARKGuy | but I registered, whee |
| 04:31.11 | adamorjames | it's half liquid |
| 04:31.13 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:31.31 | adamorjames | it scales to around 895 or something |
| 04:31.41 | adamorjames | well |
| 04:31.43 | DARKGuy | yeah, gotta fix that |
| 04:31.47 | adamorjames | it used to |
| 04:31.51 | adamorjames | fix what? |
| 04:32.06 | adamorjames | we don't need to fix nothin |
| 04:32.08 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:32.13 | adamorjames | 1024x768 and up |
| 04:32.22 | DARKGuy | the design should be flexible |
| 04:32.30 | adamorjames | no |
| 04:32.31 | DARKGuy | it looks ugly if resized lower |
| 04:32.33 | DARKGuy | but oh well |
| 04:32.53 | adamorjames | there is no way to make it flexible and include all the blocks and info |
| 04:33.06 | adamorjames | it would be a nightmare... |
| 04:33.16 | DARKGuy | the mid container could be the flexible one |
| 04:33.22 | DARKGuy | others just float left & float right |
| 04:33.24 | adamorjames | I've tried DARKGuy |
| 04:33.28 | adamorjames | trust me |
| 04:33.37 | adamorjames | the way it is structured |
| 04:34.12 | DARKGuy | okay then |
| 04:34.16 | adamorjames | I've spent hours upon hours to get it perfect as it is |
| 04:34.40 | DARKGuy | s'okay |
| 04:34.40 | DARKGuy | =) |
| 04:35.10 | adamorjames | so |
| 04:35.26 | adamorjames | you don't have any powers xD |
| 04:35.47 | adamorjames | I should create some groups or w/e to define power to |
| 04:36.14 | adamorjames | also DARKGuy |
| 04:36.18 | adamorjames | you see the bottom? |
| 04:36.20 | adamorjames | xDDDDD |
| 04:36.31 | adamorjames | Theme provided by Acquia, Inc. under GPL license from TopNotchThemes Drupal themes |
| 04:36.56 | DARKGuy | yeah lol |
| 04:37.40 | adamorjames | Hmm I need to allow normal users to access chat |
| 04:37.58 | adamorjames | you lowly users! |
| 04:38.06 | adamorjames | I am the all the great and mighty adamorjames |
| 04:38.23 | adamorjames | throws a thunderbolt at DARKGuy |
| 04:39.06 | adamorjames | I've also got to fix the title stuff.. |
| 04:39.10 | adamorjames | haha.. |
| 04:39.45 | adamorjames | again.. |
| 04:40.24 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 04:42.40 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: try accessing chat now |
| 04:42.59 | adamorjames | does it works? |
| 04:43.04 | adamorjames | does its? |
| 04:43.14 | DARKGuy | cool |
| 04:43.15 | DARKGuy | yes |
| 04:43.17 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:43.34 | DARKGuy | it needs to be fixed though |
| 04:43.39 | adamorjames | ? |
| 04:43.39 | DARKGuy | you try to connect and mibbit bails out |
| 04:43.40 | DARKGuy | but oh well |
| 04:43.43 | adamorjames | haha |
| 04:44.46 | adamorjames | it's never done that before xD |
| 04:44.51 | adamorjames | sigh.. |
| 04:45.35 | adamorjames | I'm telling you DARKGuy |
| 04:45.41 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:45.48 | adamorjames | lots of broken stuff atm |
| 04:47.04 | adamorjames | hmm |
| 04:47.40 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: it's mibbit's fault |
| 04:47.53 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 04:47.56 | adamorjames | I just tried the old website client |
| 04:48.02 | adamorjames | same thing |
| 04:48.08 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: why? |
| 04:48.21 | adamorjames | did #iteam get banned? |
| 04:48.23 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:48.45 | DARKGuy | don't think so |
| 04:48.46 | DARKGuy | I dunno |
| 04:48.48 | adamorjames | >:( |
| 04:48.51 | DARKGuy | I'll look into it tomorrow |
| 04:48.57 | adamorjames | guess we won't have chat |
| 04:49.09 | adamorjames | dam mibbit |
| 04:49.57 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: maybe it's a server problem? |
| 04:50.12 | adamorjames | the server hosting our site that is |
| 04:50.17 | DARKGuy | dunno |
| 04:50.21 | adamorjames | maybe it's banned from using mibbit |
| 04:50.59 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: maybe freenode doesn't like mibbit? |
| 04:51.11 | DARKGuy | I don't know :/ |
| 04:51.14 | DARKGuy | I'm coding |
| 04:51.16 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:51.26 | adamorjames | DG needs a hug? |
| 04:51.30 | adamorjames | ~hug DARKGuy |
| 04:51.31 | ibot | ACTION sneaks up on DARKGuy and suddenly hugs DARKGuy tightly |
| 04:51.39 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 04:52.22 | adamorjames | "freenode has ... be surprised when your mibbit sessions ends with "Terminated" soon after" |
| 04:52.29 | adamorjames | >:( |
| 04:52.48 | adamorjames | "Heads up: freenode has disabled mibbit access" |
| 04:53.14 | adamorjames | well looks like we're not welcomed here anymore |
| 04:53.22 | adamorjames | grabs his suitcase |
| 04:53.26 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:54.52 | *** join/#iteam aojdesktop (i=4b20c0e4@gateway/web/freenode/x-7c5fa04f40693ddc) |
| 04:54.56 | aojdesktop | I see |
| 04:55.11 | aojdesktop | they expect us to use this!? |
| 04:56.40 | adamorjames | hmm |
| 04:56.46 | adamorjames | it works the same as mibbit.. |
| 04:56.55 | adamorjames | uses an iframe |
| 04:57.00 | adamorjames | so I guuuuuessss |
| 04:57.11 | adamorjames | I can hack the code to use it instead |
| 04:57.29 | adamorjames | still pretty stupid |
| 04:57.55 | adamorjames | <iframe src="http://webchat.freenode.net/?channels=iteam" width="647" height="400"></iframe> |
| 04:58.30 | adamorjames | so lame |
| 04:58.46 | adamorjames | why did they have to make their own and block mibbit |
| 04:58.48 | adamorjames | so lame |
| 05:06.36 | adamorjames | I guess it's good for IT places.. it separates work from play.. |
| 05:07.00 | adamorjames | still lame |
| 05:07.56 | adamorjames | theY4Kman |
| 05:10.21 | DARKGuy | a |
| 05:10.22 | DARKGuy | aw |
| 05:10.23 | DARKGuy | fuck |
| 05:10.25 | DARKGuy | fuckfuckfuck |
| 05:10.27 | DARKGuy | mibbit blocked |
| 05:10.29 | adamorjames | DARKGuy? |
| 05:10.29 | DARKGuy | they suck. |
| 05:10.32 | adamorjames | yep |
| 05:11.09 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you ever eaten a cucumber? |
| 05:12.02 | DARKGuy | long time ago, yeah |
| 05:12.10 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: your thoughts? |
| 05:12.24 | *** join/#iteam darkguy1 (i=be48af77@gateway/web/freenode/x-93e55879eadee8d2) |
| 05:12.29 | darkguy1 | eeeeeeeeeeeh |
| 05:12.31 | darkguy1 | this isn't too bad |
| 05:12.36 | darkguy1 | I guess I could use it at work |
| 05:12.37 | darkguy1 | but still |
| 05:12.54 | adamorjames | but still they blocked mibbit! |
| 05:12.57 | darkguy1 | yeah |
| 05:12.58 | darkguy1 | sucks |
| 05:13.00 | adamorjames | those bassturds |
| 05:13.08 | darkguy1 | bah |
| 05:13.12 | darkguy1 | iframe it or link it |
| 05:13.13 | darkguy1 | xD |
| 05:13.14 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: your thoughts on cucumbers? |
| 05:13.22 | darkguy1 | I don't like them very much |
| 05:13.27 | *** part/#iteam darkguy1 (i=be48af77@gateway/web/freenode/x-93e55879eadee8d2) |
| 05:13.27 | adamorjames | me either! |
| 05:13.30 | adamorjames | me either! |
| 05:13.31 | DARKGuy | heh |
| 05:13.37 | adamorjames | they taste horrible |
| 05:14.05 | adamorjames | only someone with no tastebuds would like them |
| 05:14.11 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 05:14.16 | adamorjames | oh and DARKGuy |
| 05:14.32 | adamorjames | what is this |
| 05:14.38 | adamorjames | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3603/3694935006_089a6d5c53.jpg?v=0 |
| 05:15.17 | adamorjames | look look it's green plasma inside! |
| 05:15.20 | adamorjames | http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2437/3694935888_3a3078a224.jpg?v=0 |
| 05:15.21 | DARKGuy | no idea |
| 05:15.22 | DARKGuy | but lolz. |
| 05:15.30 | adamorjames | ewww |
| 05:15.30 | DARKGuy | KIWI |
| 05:15.37 | DARKGuy | no? |
| 05:15.56 | adamorjames | no |
| 05:16.11 | adamorjames | it looks poisonous |
| 05:16.24 | adamorjames | the guy said it tasted liek bad cucumber |
| 05:16.27 | adamorjames | *like |
| 05:16.42 | adamorjames | but how can anything taste worse than cucumber!? |
| 05:16.47 | adamorjames | xD |
| 05:17.17 | adamorjames | there's no such thing as bad cucumber because cucumbers are the worst there is |
| 05:17.23 | adamorjames | xD |
| 05:18.02 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: I think it's a vegetable |
| 05:18.18 | adamorjames | but I've never seen a vegetable with green slime! |
| 05:18.22 | adamorjames | xDDD |
| 05:19.43 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you have some weird fruit in south america no? |
| 05:20.35 | DARKGuy | I think so |
| 05:20.38 | DARKGuy | but I only know the most common ones |
| 05:20.39 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: would you eat this? |
| 05:20.41 | adamorjames | http://media.canada.com/e1e52408-cfaf-4b8b-9584-99f3fa415679/rambutan.jpg |
| 05:20.52 | adamorjames | xDDD |
| 05:20.57 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 05:20.59 | adamorjames | lol |
| 05:21.07 | adamorjames | would you>? |
| 05:21.10 | adamorjames | xDDDDDD |
| 05:21.21 | DARKGuy | ew, no |
| 05:21.30 | adamorjames | looks like worm larvae |
| 05:21.32 | adamorjames | xD |
| 05:21.42 | adamorjames | yum |
| 05:22.00 | DARKGuy | ew |
| 05:22.34 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: would you eat it if she ate it? |
| 05:22.37 | adamorjames | http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_HeM5d5yfCTk/SVA8wTZwT0I/AAAAAAAAAAM/g4m3w78p2zA/S220/aimee%2Bwindow.jpg |
| 05:22.50 | adamorjames | because.. she eats that stuff |
| 05:22.54 | adamorjames | O_O |
| 05:22.58 | DARKGuy | o_O. |
| 05:23.02 | adamorjames | xD |
| 05:23.14 | adamorjames | it's from her blog |
| 05:23.29 | adamorjames | I think South AMerica too |
| 05:23.35 | DARKGuy | craZY |
| 05:23.37 | adamorjames | you have some weird fruit DARKGuy |
| 05:24.07 | DARKGuy | I've never seen it! |
| 05:24.07 | DARKGuy | but whatever xD |
| 05:24.07 | adamorjames | xD |
| 05:24.07 | DARKGuy | EEEH?! |
| 05:24.07 | DARKGuy | CHANSERV LEAVES? |
| 05:24.08 | DARKGuy | WTF! |
| 05:24.08 | DARKGuy | END OF THE WORLD |
| 05:24.26 | adamorjames | netsplit |
| 05:24.26 | DARKGuy | fun |
| 05:26.04 | Judo | gu |
| 05:26.13 | Judo | what's going on in this channel? |
| 05:27.01 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: she eats dandellions |
| 05:27.01 | adamorjames | *dandelions |
| 05:27.02 | DARKGuy | oO |
| 05:27.03 | DARKGuy | Judo: no idea |
| 05:27.06 | adamorjames | Wow, things are really changing. This morning I woke up craving dandelions. I made a big dandelion & cucumber salad with a celery/pine nut/tomato dressing. |
| 05:27.16 | adamorjames | o_O |
| 05:27.41 | adamorjames | Judo: would you eat that? |
| 05:28.32 | *** join/#iteam ChanServ (ChanServ@services.) |
| 05:28.32 | *** mode/#iteam [+o ChanServ] by irc.freenode.net |
| 05:29.03 | adamorjames | wb ChanServ |
| 05:31.39 | adamorjames | omg |
| 05:31.47 | adamorjames | she drinks aloe vera juice |
| 05:35.45 | adamorjames | I wanted to see the post about eating that weird fruit DARKGuy but Firefox crashed.. :( |
| 05:35.56 | adamorjames | oh well |
| 05:36.05 | adamorjames | I'll just forget about it |
| 05:36.27 | adamorjames | bloated pos... |
| 05:37.39 | adamorjames | Judo: register |
| 05:37.53 | adamorjames | I'm going to sleep now.. |
| 05:40.50 | DARKGuy | good nights :p |
| 08:18.16 | Azzkikr | yo nigga nigga |
| 08:44.47 | theY4Kman | bish |
| 08:46.18 | Azzkikr | !whaddup |
| 08:49.50 | xavieran | I want to go to University in America |
| 08:52.31 | Azzkikr | xavieran: where do you live, tbh? |
| 08:52.49 | Judo | xavieran: Which one? |
| 09:04.37 | Azzkikr | theY4Kman: you know python rite? |
| 09:04.43 | theY4Kman | Yes, Azzkikr |
| 09:04.56 | Azzkikr | I got a tuple: x, y, xend = (0, 0, 32) |
| 09:05.04 | theY4Kman | Yeah? |
| 09:05.05 | Azzkikr | i want to check if the x, y and xend are >= 0 |
| 09:05.18 | Azzkikr | i can do that by typing : if x >= 0 and y >= 0 and xend >= 0 |
| 09:05.22 | Azzkikr | isn't there a shorter way? |
| 09:06.46 | theY4Kman | Nope =/ |
| 09:06.52 | theY4Kman | Not that I know of, at least |
| 09:07.31 | Azzkikr | hmm |
| 09:08.25 | theY4Kman | Well |
| 09:08.27 | Judo | make a tuple out of the tuples and "for derp in tuples: if derp >= 0" :D |
| 09:08.50 | theY4Kman | You could do something stupid like if filter(lambda x: x >= 0, myTuple) |
| 09:09.13 | Judo | and for anyone interested, unbelievable upper body strength/parkour demonstration: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-oZEo3zSBI&fmt=22 |
| 09:09.15 | theY4Kman | But you wouldn't exactly remember what it does :P |
| 09:10.58 | Azzkikr | lambda stuff scare me |
| 09:11.21 | xavieran | Azzkikr: I live in Australia |
| 09:11.26 | xavieran | Judo: The best one. |
| 09:11.38 | Judo | MIT? |
| 09:12.11 | xavieran | Judo: Don't you already have to be a genius to get into MIT? |
| 09:12.27 | Judo | yep |
| 09:12.28 | theY4Kman | lol, Azzkikr |
| 09:12.31 | xavieran | :( |
| 09:12.36 | xavieran | THat rules me out then... |
| 09:13.01 | theY4Kman | In Python, lambdas are just one-line expressions |
| 09:13.37 | theY4Kman | xavieran: What's the gun control like in Australia? I hear it's pretty damn restrictive |
| 09:13.45 | theY4Kman | In that they banned most guns :P |
| 09:14.37 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Not really... it's just that most people in the cities don't have guns, and most people live in the cities... |
| 09:14.50 | xavieran | Out in the "bush", you can get a gun quite easily... |
| 09:14.55 | Azzkikr | i never understood gun legislation |
| 09:15.41 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: Eh? |
| 09:15.53 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Same as in the cities, most people <16 haven't driven a car, but in the "bush", it's normal for a 12 year old to know how to drive... |
| 09:16.40 | theY4Kman | xavieran: But can they legally drive a car on public roads or legally own a gun? |
| 09:18.04 | xavieran | theY4Kman: you can legally own a gun, but <16 cannot legally drive a car, however because we are talking about private properties larger than a town, the laws can't really be policed inside those properties other than by assholes who tell tales... |
| 09:18.30 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 09:18.31 | xavieran | but luckily there aren't many of them... |
| 09:19.34 | theY4Kman | I Stumbled Upon some site with a YouTube video of Australians being pissed they had to turn in their weapons |
| 09:20.24 | xavieran | Turn in their weapons? |
| 09:20.41 | xavieran | maybe the bikies? |
| 09:20.53 | xavieran | bikies killed some guy in public in sydney airport... |
| 09:21.02 | xavieran | bashed him to death... |
| 09:21.18 | theY4Kman | http://www.truth-it.net/gun_confiscation.html |
| 09:22.04 | Azzkikr | theY4Kman: I don't understand why guns are legal in certain countries |
| 09:22.30 | theY4Kman | Like what countries? |
| 09:22.38 | theY4Kman | Vatican City? |
| 09:23.18 | xavieran | I agree |
| 09:23.20 | xavieran | xD |
| 09:23.31 | xavieran | theY4Kman: DO you have a gun? |
| 09:23.35 | xavieran | ESR does :D |
| 09:23.44 | theY4Kman | I'm saving up |
| 09:24.17 | theY4Kman | I'm just a hundred or so short. But gun prices have been rising dramatically, so I'll probably need a couple hundred or so more |
| 09:25.25 | xavieran | I bet its the damned gov. taxing them... |
| 09:25.44 | xavieran | Governments suck. |
| 09:26.05 | theY4Kman | Nah, it's the gov't threatening to make gun restrictions more restrictive, so many more people are buying guns |
| 09:26.11 | theY4Kman | There's a national ammo shortage |
| 09:27.06 | xavieran | :| |
| 09:27.10 | xavieran | That sucks |
| 09:27.42 | Azzkikr | what are you going to shoot ffs? |
| 09:28.02 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: targets, I hope. |
| 09:29.27 | theY4Kman | Yeah, the M92FS went up considerably :( |
| 09:29.42 | xavieran | what is m92fs ? a gun? |
| 09:30.14 | xavieran | http://www.sekito.co.jp/image/wa-btbq.jpg |
| 09:30.15 | xavieran | sexy |
| 09:30.18 | theY4Kman | Yeah, it's the standard handgun of the US military. |
| 09:30.24 | Azzkikr | fuck you guys |
| 09:30.29 | Azzkikr | Guns for show, knives for the pro |
| 09:30.44 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: You're right, I'd love to bring a knife to a gunfight. |
| 09:30.50 | xavieran | xD |
| 09:30.57 | Azzkikr | master your throwing skills |
| 09:31.05 | xavieran | https://hdsportsmen.com/shop/catalog/images/umarpic225-3010.jpg |
| 09:31.06 | theY4Kman | I ain't mastering shit but programming |
| 09:31.10 | Azzkikr | lol |
| 09:40.44 | theY4Kman | Jesus, these prices have all gone up |
| 09:40.44 | xavieran | Is there a debugger like gdb for python? |
| 09:40.49 | xavieran | I think like pdb? |
| 09:41.01 | theY4Kman | xavieran: Yeah |
| 09:41.06 | xavieran | w00t |
| 09:41.15 | xavieran | http://docs.python.org/library/pdb.html |
| 09:41.21 | theY4Kman | There's Winpdb, which is great as well |
| 09:42.13 | theY4Kman | Last year, I could buy an M92FS for $300-$400 |
| 09:42.20 | theY4Kman | Now it's ~$700 D: |
| 09:42.52 | xavieran | USD right... |
| 09:42.58 | theY4Kman | Yes |
| 09:42.59 | xavieran | 1100 AUD |
| 09:43.02 | xavieran | That's a lot |
| 09:43.13 | xavieran | Should've bought it last year ;) |
| 09:43.22 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Do you have (or need) a license? |
| 09:43.39 | theY4Kman | No and nope |
| 09:44.16 | theY4Kman | When I'm 21, I'll get a concealed weapons license, though |
| 09:44.26 | xavieran | Awesome >:D |
| 09:44.33 | xavieran | theY4Kman: How old are you? |
| 09:44.38 | theY4Kman | 17 |
| 09:44.42 | xavieran | Ok... |
| 09:46.07 | xavieran | I have to iron some shirts :( |
| 09:46.09 | xavieran | brb |
| 09:46.13 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 09:46.18 | Azzkikr | i hate ironing |
| 09:47.13 | Azzkikr | theY4Kman: why do you want a gun so badly? |
| 09:48.21 | theY4Kman | Well, I like guns. Something about the ability to precisely affect a target possibly hundreds of yards away. |
| 09:48.42 | Judo | ain't nothin' wrong with ironing |
| 09:48.45 | theY4Kman | Secondly, I'm a geek. What's going to happen in a zombie apocalypse? |
| 09:49.10 | theY4Kman | I don't expect to survive without a firearm! |
| 09:49.52 | Azzkikr | heh |
| 09:50.01 | Judo | expects to exist without a firearm. |
| 09:50.18 | theY4Kman | And lastly, it's the last defense from a government |
| 09:50.37 | Azzkikr | im thankful guns are not legal here |
| 09:50.54 | theY4Kman | So I see it as not only a recreational toy, but also as a duty to America! |
| 09:51.04 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: Why? |
| 09:51.16 | theY4Kman | People will always be able to get guns |
| 09:51.26 | theY4Kman | Except now you can't and the criminals can |
| 09:51.30 | Azzkikr | yes, but i've never met anyone having a gun |
| 09:51.38 | theY4Kman | Who has the upper hand in that situation? |
| 09:52.05 | Azzkikr | a friend of mine once pointed an air gun at my face (not loaded, no airpressure tank in it or whatever) and it's fuckin scared |
| 09:52.08 | Azzkikr | scary* |
| 09:52.16 | theY4Kman | Of course it's scary |
| 09:52.25 | theY4Kman | It's like if someone pointed a knife at your face |
| 09:52.30 | Azzkikr | i can't imagine the shit in my pants when a real gun was pointed at me |
| 09:52.31 | theY4Kman | But, of course, that's legal |
| 09:52.49 | Azzkikr | im not scared of knives, they don't give the impression that 'it might just go off' |
| 09:53.07 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 09:54.01 | Azzkikr | anyway |
| 09:54.06 | theY4Kman | I don't like gun restrictions like that, because they're calling every single gun an instrument of murder and crime |
| 09:54.09 | Azzkikr | it's a very tough and long debate going on for ages now |
| 09:55.12 | Azzkikr | i just feel a lot safer on the streets knowing that people ('normal' people, 'normal' criminals) can not get guns |
| 09:55.33 | Azzkikr | im not speaking about the gangster type guys of course, but hey we don't really have that here |
| 09:55.46 | theY4Kman | Wait, wait |
| 09:56.14 | Azzkikr | waits |
| 09:56.27 | theY4Kman | You're saying that you're glad people don't have guns, because you feel safe without them, yet you just told me you don't have gangster types. |
| 09:56.40 | theY4Kman | So maybe it's not the guns that make you safe |
| 09:56.47 | theY4Kman | It's that your society is just much safer |
| 09:56.53 | Azzkikr | oh maybe that is the case |
| 09:57.07 | Azzkikr | i don't know how i would feel in the USA (in certain parts then) |
| 09:57.36 | theY4Kman | I hear in Canada most people have guns and nobody locks their doors :P |
| 09:59.09 | Azzkikr | whate the deuce |
| 09:59.13 | Azzkikr | whaT* |
| 10:01.05 | xavieran | canada is _beautiful_ country |
| 10:01.20 | xavieran | If I were to live in North America I would live in Canada |
| 10:01.50 | theY4Kman | Yes, but then you still wouldn't be able to listen to Pandora :( |
| 10:02.29 | theY4Kman | Jesus, USPs went up, too :( |
| 10:02.39 | theY4Kman | I'm down at least USD$300 |
| 10:03.08 | theY4Kman | And I'm not going to buy one of them ugly-ass Makarovs |
| 10:03.16 | theY4Kman | (http://world.guns.ru/handguns/hg21-e.htm) |
| 10:03.20 | Azzkikr | makarovs lol |
| 10:03.26 | Azzkikr | I want the OICW |
| 10:03.30 | theY4Kman | They're wiener guns! |
| 10:03.43 | Azzkikr | http://usmcweapons.com/articles/OICW/oicw%20tree1.jpg |
| 10:03.51 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 10:04.15 | Azzkikr | you could use them in Ghost Recon |
| 10:04.25 | theY4Kman | They look like a cross between and M4 and an XM8 |
| 10:04.34 | theY4Kman | Oh |
| 10:04.40 | theY4Kman | They ARE XM8s XD |
| 10:05.37 | theY4Kman | wtf, Daewoo makes weapons? |
| 10:08.15 | theY4Kman | Well, even if I could afford any of these weapons, I would have no money left over for ammo :P |
| 10:09.09 | theY4Kman | Oh, well, back to wrestling with XMonad |
| 10:09.24 | theY4Kman | I still can't get the status bar working |
| 10:10.10 | theY4Kman | Never mind, I'm gonna go play games on Windows |
| 10:10.44 | xavieran | YEAH!!!! |
| 10:10.55 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Use ratpoison ;) |
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| 10:12.05 | xavieran | wb TheMaverick` |
| 10:12.06 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Use ratpoison ;) |
| 10:12.55 | theY4Kman | xavieran: arsenic? |
| 10:13.08 | xavieran | It's a wm |
| 10:13.28 | theY4Kman | Tiling? |
| 10:13.34 | theY4Kman | Is it sextensible? |
| 10:14.16 | theY4Kman | Oh, it's the predecessor of StumpWM |
| 10:14.27 | Azzkikr | why does everybody think tiling is teh uber |
| 10:15.01 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: I do a lot of programming, so I usually have a number of gedit and terminal windows open |
| 10:15.12 | theY4Kman | It's becoming really hard to manage manually |
| 10:15.36 | Azzkikr | i mainly use gvim to split windows for me |
| 10:15.46 | Azzkikr | and tabification |
| 10:16.00 | theY4Kman | How good is support for multiple files? |
| 10:16.13 | theY4Kman | I tried using it in regular ol' vim, but it sucked |
| 10:16.20 | Azzkikr | very, but it has a bit of a learning curve, i don't know if you'll like it |
| 10:16.22 | theY4Kman | I usually have 20-80 documents open |
| 10:16.29 | Azzkikr | what the dicks? |
| 10:16.47 | Azzkikr | thassalot |
| 10:17.01 | theY4Kman | Yeah, can vim handle it? |
| 10:17.13 | Azzkikr | yeah most likely |
| 10:17.16 | xavieran | theY4Kman: I think so |
| 10:17.28 | Azzkikr | i mean, it's vim - it's as old as the internet, and it's still being developed |
| 10:17.31 | theY4Kman | I only use gedit now because it's very easy to see what docs are open and switch between documents |
| 10:17.43 | xavieran | theY4Kman: You should use vim |
| 10:17.50 | theY4Kman | xavieran: I'm trying to learn it |
| 10:17.58 | xavieran | theY4Kman: Have you used vimtutor? |
| 10:18.09 | theY4Kman | But there's no point if I can't handle documents |
| 10:18.14 | Azzkikr | you can split windows so you can have your header file for ex. on the right, impl on the left |
| 10:18.15 | theY4Kman | xavieran: Nope |
| 10:18.36 | theY4Kman | I know how the basics of vim |
| 10:18.42 | xavieran | theY4Kman: it's pretty good... I'm still learning, but as I go through each chapter of vimtutor, I copy the summary into a file so I have a "cheatsheet" |
| 10:18.57 | xavieran | theY4Kman: vimtutor will fill in a lot of blanks though... |
| 10:19.03 | theY4Kman | In that I can open a file, edit it, save, and quit, but meh. |
| 10:19.09 | Azzkikr | theY4Kman: you can also save sessions, like if you opened 16 documents, you can write it using :mksession, then open it back up usinv gvim -S Session.vim |
| 10:19.20 | Azzkikr | much like an IDE project file |
| 10:19.25 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: I can do that in gedit =/ |
| 10:19.29 | Azzkikr | die |
| 10:19.44 | Azzkikr | it saves all of the state of your windows |
| 10:19.46 | theY4Kman | The benefit of vim would be |
| 10:19.49 | theY4Kman | Er |
| 10:20.04 | theY4Kman | I don't have much of an answer to that anymore |
| 10:20.13 | Azzkikr | vim is fast, handy commands |
| 10:20.18 | Azzkikr | you can do pretty much using keyboard only |
| 10:21.04 | theY4Kman | Yeah, that's what I assume |
| 10:21.42 | theY4Kman | But, like I said, I'm not going to commit to learning it if switching documents is not easier/better than gedit |
| 10:21.59 | Azzkikr | how do you switch docs now? |
| 10:22.27 | theY4Kman | There's a side pane with a list of all the documents, and I can just click among them |
| 10:22.47 | Azzkikr | in gvim you can use ctrl+pgup ctrl+pgdown to switch |
| 10:23.07 | Azzkikr | or :tabfirst, :tablast |
| 10:23.36 | theY4Kman | Sounds great to do when searching for one file in 20-80 documents |
| 10:23.56 | Azzkikr | is that sarcasm |
| 10:24.02 | theY4Kman | Yes. |
| 10:24.16 | Azzkikr | the filename is on the tab itself |
| 10:25.22 | theY4Kman | Can I do something like :tabf filename_wildcard_expression ? |
| 10:25.41 | theY4Kman | Or name/alias the tabs myself? |
| 10:25.41 | Azzkikr | umm dunno |
| 10:25.42 | theY4Kman | Balls! |
| 10:25.49 | Azzkikr | :tabs gives a list of all the tabs |
| 10:26.20 | theY4Kman | That helps |
| 10:26.20 | theY4Kman | A bit, at least |
| 10:26.51 | theY4Kman | By a list, do you meant a nicely formatted list? |
| 10:27.01 | theY4Kman | Akin to `ls`? |
| 10:27.06 | xavieran | How do I set myself +w? |
| 10:27.17 | theY4Kman | /mode xavieran +w |
| 10:27.22 | Azzkikr | xavieran: errr well something like that |
| 10:27.49 | xavieran | thanks theY4Kman |
| 10:27.55 | theY4Kman | :) |
| 10:28.37 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: WELL |
| 10:29.42 | theY4Kman | I think gedit, a mere GUI text editing program with little to no keyboard navigation, is prevailing over the towering monolith of the classic and prestigious vim |
| 10:30.26 | Azzkikr | well ok, it's your choice |
| 10:37.39 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 10:37.46 | theY4Kman | That's not how you convince someone! |
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| 10:38.08 | Azzkikr | i don't wanna convince you, as long as it's not emacs :d |
| 10:38.08 | Azzkikr | :D |
| 10:38.21 | Azzkikr | god fucking damn it |
| 10:38.31 | theY4Kman | I love emacs! |
| 10:38.54 | Azzkikr | this forsaken chinese coworker is slurping, munching his food with saliva, crunching with A LOT OF SOUND |
| 10:38.57 | Azzkikr | every single fucking day |
| 10:39.09 | Azzkikr | what the SHITFUCK |
| 10:39.11 | xavieran | Azzkikr: Now you see why we want guns... |
| 10:39.13 | Azzkikr | it is disgusting |
| 10:39.25 | Azzkikr | seriously annoying |
| 10:39.35 | theY4Kman | lol, xavieran |
| 10:39.38 | theY4Kman | Azzkikr: I feel ya |
| 10:39.41 | xavieran | >:D |
| 10:39.53 | theY4Kman | I have an overactive sense of annoying food eating habits |
| 10:40.01 | Azzkikr | "hey man, im chinese, lets go to the netherlands and not get accustomed" |
| 10:40.05 | theY4Kman | In that I really hate eating with other people =/ |
| 10:40.09 | Azzkikr | "lets chew food as loud as i can" |
| 10:40.14 | Azzkikr | heh |
| 10:40.18 | xavieran | I don't... mainly because people (usually my mother) complain about me :D |
| 10:40.42 | theY4Kman | lol |
| 10:40.50 | theY4Kman | YOU'RE THE PROBLEM, XAVERIAN |
| 10:52.58 | theY4Kman | wtf is with 30 second ads on YouTube? |
| 10:53.43 | theY4Kman | These are very intrusive ads |
| 10:55.27 | xavieran | that's google for you.. |
| 11:05.15 | Azzkikr | google is turning microsoft |
| 11:07.55 | xavieran | damn |
| 11:08.03 | xavieran | ChromeOS and all that... |
| 11:08.30 | xavieran | though maybe ChromeOS will motivate manufacturers to realease open source drivers... |
| 11:28.00 | xavieran | >xD |
| 11:31.30 | Azzkikr | EX DEE |
| 11:52.47 | Azzkikr | why does microsoft word think it's good to auto-correct me |
| 11:52.53 | Azzkikr | fuck you microsoft! |
| 13:08.06 | Azzkikr | theY4Kman: you thar? |
| 13:08.17 | theY4Kman | no. |
| 13:08.21 | Azzkikr | :( |
| 13:08.27 | Azzkikr | nvm i'll ask somebody else |
| 14:31.47 | adamorjames | I'm awake |
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| 14:58.04 | adamorjames | wb xavieran |
| 15:33.29 | adamorjames | theY4Kman: If bananas are a symbol for you, do it as a ritual |
| 15:33.44 | theY4Kman | wat |
| 15:33.55 | adamorjames | xD |
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| 15:54.21 | Azzkikr | DIX |
| 16:07.31 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: register |
| 16:07.43 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: why haven't you created the e-mil accounts yet? |
| 16:07.51 | adamorjames | *e-mail |
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| 16:08.24 | adamorjames2 | oh ho ho |
| 17:11.23 | Azzkikr | oh eh wat |
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| 19:11.23 | aojlaptop | Laptop works now |
| 19:44.22 | theY4Kman | YAY |
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| 20:14.54 | Azzkikr | how does one iterate trough a list in reverse ? |
| 20:14.57 | Azzkikr | in pypy |
| 20:27.36 | Judo | come to think of it, I've never done that either |
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| 20:47.07 | Azzkikr | xavieran: are you there mate? |
| 20:56.40 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: create the e-mail accounts |
| 20:56.59 | Azzkikr | wat |
| 20:57.04 | adamorjames | ... |
| 20:57.18 | adamorjames | I've been asking your for at least two days Azzkikr |
| 20:57.41 | adamorjames | admin@iteamgame.org and iteamgame@iteamgame.org |
| 21:00.00 | adamorjames | Ahh, refreshing.. |
| 21:00.25 | adamorjames | I deattched the screen session from my desktop and am now using it on my laptop |
| 21:00.37 | adamorjames | so I am typing this from my laptop |
| 21:01.08 | adamorjames | detachhed? |
| 21:01.13 | adamorjames | idk.. weird word |
| 21:01.43 | Azzkikr | detached |
| 21:01.49 | adamorjames | yes |
| 21:02.20 | adamorjames | And my laptop is running Windows XP |
| 21:02.42 | Azzkikr | aoj what is your normal email address? |
| 21:03.19 | adamorjames | adamorjames ....at.... gmail ....dot.... com |
| 21:03.19 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:03.59 | Judo | adamorjames@gmail.com |
| 21:04.01 | adamorjames | I am using putty. I am not even going to attempt to figure out the capitilization that. |
| 21:04.04 | Judo | for all the spambots in the channel |
| 21:04.08 | Azzkikr | ok, i made the two email addresses |
| 21:04.10 | adamorjames | *on |
| 21:04.17 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: finally! |
| 21:04.30 | Azzkikr | i made them forward email to my sf.net address and yours |
| 21:04.42 | adamorjames | Cooh cooh |
| 21:06.12 | adamorjames | I need ti figure out where to set my laptop. There is no space on my desk because of the huge CRT monitor. Right now it's in my lap. |
| 21:06.15 | adamorjames | *to |
| 21:08.28 | adamorjames | I guess that's why the call it a laptop. |
| 21:08.33 | adamorjames | *they |
| 21:09.45 | adamorjames | One nice thing about the new harddrive in my laptop is that it is partitioned in half. |
| 21:09.53 | adamorjames | But.. |
| 21:10.10 | adamorjames | I don't think I need half of the harddrive for Windows. |
| 21:15.57 | adamorjames | Anyone know a good partition editor for Windows? |
| 21:17.25 | adamorjames | I wonder if I should just use gparted. |
| 21:21.04 | Azzkikr | gparted is okay |
| 21:22.06 | adamorjames | I know that the default partitioner in Windows XP won't resize the partition in use. |
| 21:22.26 | adamorjames | I guess it's best to not have the partition in use anyways. |
| 21:22.48 | Azzkikr | can windows even see the ext2/3 and other journalling filesystems? |
| 21:23.58 | adamorjames | Not without certain drivers or such |
| 21:24.03 | Azzkikr | lameness |
| 21:29.49 | adamorjames | I'll be bah-k |
| 21:30.18 | adamorjames | (Arnold Swachrnegger.. yes I know I didn't spell his name right) |
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| 22:22.13 | Azzkikr | schwarzenegger |
| 22:28.59 | antiyou | whre |
| 22:29.10 | Azzkikr | noweher |
| 22:44.06 | adamorjames | hey hey Azzkikr |
| 22:44.12 | adamorjames | Azzkikr hey |
| 22:44.16 | adamorjames | hey hey Azzkikr |
| 22:44.18 | adamorjames | Azzkikr hey |
| 22:44.28 | adamorjames | starts singing |
| 22:44.32 | adamorjames | hey hey Azzkikr |
| 22:44.35 | adamorjames | Azzkikr hey |
| 22:44.36 | adamorjames | hey hey Azzkikr |
| 22:44.38 | adamorjames | Azzkikr hey |
| 22:45.17 | adamorjames | Anyone here know if an aircard can be used by more than computer at the same time? |
| 22:45.47 | Azzkikr | WAT |
| 22:45.50 | adamorjames | *one |
| 22:46.07 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: like a mesh-like thing with an aircard |
| 22:46.22 | adamorjames | has it been done? |
| 22:47.36 | adamorjames | Azzkikr? |
| 22:47.42 | adamorjames | hey hey Azzkikr |
| 22:47.46 | adamorjames | Azzkikr hey |
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| 22:50.01 | adamorjames | yo KIAaze |
| 22:51.48 | KIAaze | yo :) |
| 22:52.02 | adamorjames | Where you been? |
| 22:53.04 | KIAaze | well, very busy. :) |
| 22:53.24 | KIAaze | just finished reading "Adolf" by Osamu Tezuka. Excellent manga. |
| 22:53.31 | adamorjames | too busy for iteam? |
| 22:53.34 | adamorjames | :O |
| 22:53.37 | KIAaze | yes :( |
| 22:53.52 | KIAaze | having a full-time job is tiresome |
| 22:53.53 | DGMurdockIII | sets mode: +good-in-fucking adamorjames |
| 22:54.22 | DGMurdockIII | enlarges adamorjames' arsehole with a steel pipe, diameter: 20 m. |
| 22:54.25 | DGMurdockIII | TAKE THAT!!! *SLID* |
| 22:54.25 | DGMurdockIII | AND THAT!!! *SLOD* |
| 22:54.25 | DGMurdockIII | ;-D |
| 22:55.42 | adamorjames | DGMurdockIII: you really want to get banned don't you? |
| 22:56.57 | adamorjames | KIAaze: What is your job? |
| 22:57.20 | KIAaze | programming! xD |
| 22:57.55 | adamorjames | KIAaze: What languages and what have you programmed? |
| 22:58.11 | KIAaze | C++ |
| 22:59.16 | adamorjames | KIAaze: What stuff? |
| 22:59.30 | KIAaze | mmh |
| 23:00.00 | KIAaze | well, right now, I'm working on a program to calculate the luminosity in a tunnel |
| 23:00.15 | KIAaze | engineering stuff |
| 23:00.21 | adamorjames | oooh |
| 23:00.39 | adamorjames | is it hard? |
| 23:00.51 | KIAaze | no, not too much |
| 23:01.05 | KIAaze | but I had a hard time compiling it on windows today |
| 23:01.15 | adamorjames | haha |
| 23:03.04 | adamorjames | what does your work use? |
| 23:03.27 | Azzkikr | compilation on windows... meh its such a bich |
| 23:03.29 | Azzkikr | bitch |
| 23:05.44 | KIAaze | openSUSE |
| 23:06.01 | KIAaze | with KDE |
| 23:06.34 | KIAaze | btw, I reactivated xchat on startup, so expect to see me more often here. ;) |
| 23:06.55 | adamorjames | nice |
