| 00:03.16 | adamorjames | what Azzkikr said |
| 00:04.23 | Judo | Azzkikr: It compiles and runs |
| 00:05.31 | adamorjames | owned |
| 00:18.22 | theY4Kman | GUYS GUYS GUYS |
| 00:18.26 | theY4Kman | I wrote my first piece of sheet music |
| 00:29.49 | adamorjames | :O |
| 00:30.04 | adamorjames | theY4Kman: You g2 be the next Mozazrzrztz!? |
| 00:33.17 | theY4Kman | Er, drums |
| 00:33.31 | adamorjames | oh |
| 00:33.35 | adamorjames | I see how it is |
| 00:33.40 | adamorjames | >:( |
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| 01:04.48 | adamorjames | wb n |
| 01:07.10 | antiyou | thanks |
| 01:07.12 | antiyou | whats up? |
| 01:19.00 | adamorjames | not much |
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| 01:47.29 | adamorjames | wb DARKGuy |
| 01:48.08 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you ever think how boring life would be without computers? |
| 01:48.27 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: You probably wouldn't know English |
| 01:48.34 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:48.50 | adamorjames | no video games... |
| 01:48.55 | adamorjames | no movies... |
| 01:49.36 | adamorjames | well movies would still exist.. |
| 01:49.42 | adamorjames | but no videogames |
| 01:50.09 | DARKGuy | computers need to be done |
| 01:50.12 | DARKGuy | sooner or later |
| 01:50.23 | DARKGuy | humans look for ways to automatize everything |
| 01:50.28 | DARKGuy | so they don't have to do manual work |
| 01:50.53 | DARKGuy | even for monkeys |
| 01:51.00 | DARKGuy | throwing a coconut against a -rock- is better than against the floor |
| 01:51.04 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: computers also make us more connected |
| 01:51.09 | DARKGuy | so for them, the rock makes life easier :p |
| 01:51.19 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 01:51.20 | adamorjames | humans are always looking for human connection |
| 01:51.22 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:51.46 | DARKGuy | well, yeah |
| 01:51.46 | DARKGuy | some |
| 01:51.51 | adamorjames | some? |
| 01:51.59 | DARKGuy | I assume I'd be a social guy if it weren't for computers |
| 01:52.04 | adamorjames | lol |
| 01:52.13 | DARKGuy | and maybe I'd have a gf. |
| 01:52.18 | adamorjames | I think you are crazy |
| 01:52.18 | DARKGuy | but you know |
| 01:52.20 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:52.21 | DARKGuy | it's hard to get off here. |
| 01:52.22 | DARKGuy | -.- |
| 01:52.22 | DARKGuy | nah |
| 01:52.23 | DARKGuy | like |
| 01:52.34 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you think stuff that isn't true |
| 01:52.34 | DARKGuy | okay, turn off my comp for a day. |
| 01:52.36 | DARKGuy | WHAT DO I DO |
| 01:52.37 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:53.02 | DARKGuy | so I turn off my comp and go to the mall |
| 01:53.04 | DARKGuy | ... to do what ? |
| 01:53.32 | DARKGuy | playing soccer? =/ meh, too much... uh, bad people around |
| 01:53.43 | adamorjames | bad people? |
| 01:53.49 | DARKGuy | niggas-like people |
| 01:53.52 | adamorjames | oh |
| 01:53.52 | DARKGuy | you know |
| 01:53.54 | DARKGuy | that style |
| 01:54.00 | adamorjames | wannabe gangstas |
| 01:54.02 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:54.04 | adamorjames | punks |
| 01:54.06 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 01:54.07 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 01:54.14 | adamorjames | jerks |
| 01:54.20 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 01:54.20 | adamorjames | ya... |
| 01:54.20 | DARKGuy | so |
| 01:54.24 | DARKGuy | streets aren't fun |
| 01:54.28 | DARKGuy | and kinda dangerous here |
| 01:54.30 | adamorjames | see? |
| 01:54.42 | adamorjames | you'd still be the same DG |
| 01:54.44 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:54.57 | DARKGuy | nah |
| 01:55.13 | DARKGuy | I'd still go out and everything will work out on its own |
| 01:55.18 | DARKGuy | but MMmmmeh. |
| 01:55.20 | DARKGuy | brb |
| 01:57.53 | adamorjames | without computers I'd still be an artist |
| 01:58.10 | DARKGuy | heh |
| 01:58.10 | adamorjames | so it makes no difference to me |
| 01:58.12 | adamorjames | so it makes no difference to me |
| 01:58.15 | adamorjames | xD |
| 01:58.15 | DARKGuy | maybe I'd be an artist too |
| 01:58.16 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 01:59.11 | adamorjames | but there wouldn't be as many art styles as there is today |
| 01:59.33 | adamorjames | heh |
| 02:00.01 | DARKGuy | true dat |
| 02:01.07 | adamorjames | with mass... worldwide human connections (Internet) a lot of stuff would be less complex |
| 02:01.19 | adamorjames | a lot of subjects |
| 02:01.25 | adamorjames | and such |
| 02:01.34 | adamorjames | everything would be dumbed down |
| 02:01.42 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:01.45 | adamorjames | less communication of ideas |
| 02:02.00 | adamorjames | and dreams and such |
| 02:02.06 | DARKGuy | ya |
| 02:02.21 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: so... |
| 02:02.30 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: work on GP2D |
| 02:02.35 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: that's an order |
| 02:04.40 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you want girls eh? |
| 02:04.46 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: be like this guy http://www.edukshun.info/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/big-muscles.jpg |
| 02:04.53 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:09.45 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: http://www.gbmorphs.com/images/2008Morphs/BranchMD0508002.jpg |
| 02:11.53 | DARKGuy | brb |
| 02:24.34 | adamorjames | Everyone is entitled to my opinion. |
| 02:47.54 | DARKGuy | hahahaha |
| 02:48.01 | DARKGuy | if I had that body |
| 02:48.03 | DARKGuy | I'd be God. |
| 02:51.50 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:52.04 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you can get that body if you try |
| 02:52.24 | adamorjames | it takes years |
| 02:52.26 | adamorjames | :O |
| 02:53.23 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 02:53.28 | adamorjames | think how much time iteam has been around and imagine if you had worked out everyday since the beginning |
| 02:53.39 | adamorjames | xD |
| 02:53.42 | adamorjames | that |
| 02:53.48 | adamorjames | is only halfway |
| 02:53.50 | adamorjames | hahaha |
| 02:54.41 | adamorjames | instead you use excuses |
| 02:54.48 | adamorjames | blah blah blah |
| 02:54.49 | adamorjames | :P |
| 02:58.57 | adamorjames | srsly tho it doesn't take that long |
| 02:59.03 | adamorjames | maybe 300 days |
| 02:59.40 | adamorjames | and you would be good nuff |
| 02:59.52 | adamorjames | I wouldn't want to be too bulky |
| 03:00.12 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: I wonder tho |
| 03:00.22 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: your face would probably look small xD |
| 03:00.31 | adamorjames | or out of place |
| 03:01.49 | DARKGuy | ahhaha |
| 04:10.37 | adamorjames | theY4Kman Judo antiyou |
| 04:10.39 | adamorjames | http://www.getpersonas.com/store/Other/popular.html |
| 04:10.49 | antiyou | yo |
| 04:10.51 | adamorjames | you see that? |
| 04:11.05 | antiyou | http://www.newgrounds.com/portal/view/416052 |
| 04:11.10 | adamorjames | antiyou! |
| 04:11.10 | antiyou | watch that |
| 04:11.19 | adamorjames | antiyou: look at the link I showed you |
| 04:11.50 | adamorjames | antiyou: iteam is a Mozilla persona theme now |
| 04:12.54 | antiyou | nice |
| 04:13.06 | antiyou | that all your work? |
| 04:13.10 | adamorjames | no |
| 04:13.51 | adamorjames | antiyou: http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/7171/200901241657011680x1050sq8.png |
| 04:13.55 | antiyou | well 7th place :D |
| 04:14.17 | adamorjames | it's not ranked |
| 04:14.33 | antiyou | ahh |
| 04:14.47 | antiyou | well the last one sucksXD |
| 04:14.57 | adamorjames | antiyou: you see the image? |
| 04:14.58 | antiyou | but nice second link also |
| 04:15.09 | antiyou | looks hawt |
| 04:15.14 | adamorjames | antiyou: that is what a persona is |
| 04:15.36 | antiyou | they used iteams image? |
| 04:15.46 | adamorjames | I did |
| 04:15.47 | antiyou | or you can change it |
| 04:15.50 | adamorjames | eh? |
| 04:15.52 | antiyou | ahh i seee |
| 04:16.05 | antiyou | looks g ood there though |
| 04:16.11 | adamorjames | iteam is in the official Mozilla Labs persona list |
| 04:16.20 | adamorjames | :D |
| 04:16.28 | adamorjames | anyways |
| 04:16.50 | adamorjames | I just thought it was kinda cool |
| 04:16.59 | adamorjames | been waiting for it to get accepted |
| 04:17.03 | adamorjames | :P |
| 04:17.12 | antiyou | they will take it off a fter they see an tiyou in this irc chan |
| 04:17.13 | antiyou | lol |
| 04:17.25 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:17.34 | adamorjames | hey antiyou |
| 04:17.40 | antiyou | yes? |
| 04:17.47 | adamorjames | I think something's wrong with my laptop |
| 04:18.00 | antiyou | whats wrong with it? |
| 04:18.10 | adamorjames | the shift keys make beeps |
| 04:18.26 | antiyou | you have sticky key on? |
| 04:18.35 | adamorjames | antiyou: how do I turn that off? |
| 04:18.37 | antiyou | thats probably whats going on |
| 04:18.41 | adamorjames | eh? |
| 04:18.44 | antiyou | dont remember |
| 04:19.03 | antiyou | look up sticky key shitft on google |
| 04:19.09 | antiyou | should show you |
| 04:19.26 | adamorjames | but I'm not using Windows |
| 04:19.40 | adamorjames | hmm |
| 04:19.41 | antiyou | ahh no idea then |
| 04:20.10 | adamorjames | also another keyboard problem I am having is the numlock going on and off |
| 04:20.37 | antiyou | yeah cant ask me that shit |
| 04:20.45 | antiyou | not a linux hackozeez |
| 04:21.00 | antiyou | think i might installing ubuntu on my eee though |
| 04:21.05 | adamorjames | I put tape with notecard paper over the light |
| 04:21.09 | adamorjames | >.> |
| 04:21.23 | adamorjames | I really need to get my keyboard fixed |
| 04:21.28 | adamorjames | poor laptop |
| 04:21.42 | antiyou | ask judo or that nigger guy |
| 04:21.44 | adamorjames | battery is dying... keyboard is going crazy... |
| 04:21.51 | adamorjames | sigh... |
| 04:22.13 | antiyou | reines might beable to help you also |
| 04:22.31 | antiyou | but he isnt on |
| 04:22.35 | adamorjames | oh and also my earphones that cost $$ are dying |
| 04:22.38 | Judo | antiyou, no more racial slurs |
| 04:22.46 | antiyou | sorry judo |
| 04:23.14 | Judo | So I just saw this documentary |
| 04:23.19 | Judo | Oh my god, what a horrible man |
| 04:23.29 | Judo | This guy called Jason is.... so screwed up |
| 04:23.29 | antiyou | oh than fuck you |
| 04:23.35 | antiyou | LO |
| 04:23.36 | antiyou | :P |
| 04:23.53 | antiyou | what you doin judo |
| 04:24.14 | adamorjames | oh and my sd card slot stopped working a few days after I got it |
| 04:24.18 | Judo | Um... probably going to work with Slick and JBox2D |
| 04:24.24 | adamorjames | >.> |
| 04:24.47 | antiyou | judo read up a little bitr |
| 04:24.56 | antiyou | see if you can help almighty adamor |
| 04:25.00 | antiyou | with his keyboard |
| 04:25.21 | Judo | I don't wanna |
| 04:25.59 | adamorjames | that's Judo for ya |
| 04:26.02 | adamorjames | xD |
| 04:26.17 | antiyou | ahh hes on the right path |
| 04:26.29 | adamorjames | to hell |
| 04:26.29 | antiyou | nothing to compain about |
| 04:26.33 | antiyou | complain |
| 04:26.39 | adamorjames | pain |
| 04:26.42 | adamorjames | suffering |
| 04:27.49 | adamorjames | so |
| 04:27.56 | adamorjames | I guess I'll try restarting |
| 04:28.06 | adamorjames | brb |
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| 04:42.55 | adamorjames | g'night |
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| 04:47.05 | Judo | Friday the 13th kinda sucked |
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| 05:27.40 | doseryder | hi guys |
| 05:54.34 | Judo | howdy |
| 06:43.41 | doseryder | Judo: do you know if you can compile Windows (PE) native binary using gcc? |
| 06:44.36 | doseryder | If not, do you know a decent lightweight/small C compiler for Windows? |
| 06:49.38 | Judo | if you mean mingw, then yes you can, but that's not technically gcc |
| 06:55.11 | doseryder | what's mingw? Is that a compiler or an option-flag of gcc? |
| 06:55.52 | Judo | a native Windows compiler |
| 06:56.12 | Judo | and NSIS gives it a Bash-like frontend |
| 06:57.41 | doseryder | NSIS? |
| 06:57.58 | Judo | Google.com |
| 06:58.11 | doseryder | Nullsoft scriptable install system |
| 06:58.47 | Judo | er, whoops |
| 06:58.48 | Judo | NSYS |
| 06:58.57 | doseryder | I'm asking if I could compile Window native binary in gcc (GNU/Linux) |
| 06:59.07 | Judo | You can use MinGW in Wine, actually |
| 06:59.42 | Judo | but the compilers run by GNU do not compile to Windows binaries |
| 06:59.48 | Judo | I think the FSF has something against Windows |
| 06:59.49 | Judo | Go figure |
| 07:07.40 | doseryder | I found it its MSys. Minimalist GNU for windows. I don't get why its called that tho. Its basically a set of Windows specific and import libraries |
| 07:08.52 | Judo | right, msys |
| 07:08.53 | Judo | I should know that |
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| 07:26.12 | xavieran | :) |
| 07:27.17 | Judo | http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3530/screenshot015hm9.jpg :) |
| 07:27.43 | Judo | KIAaze, want to help with a simple problem? |
| 07:28.09 | KIAaze | hi |
| 07:28.10 | KIAaze | sure |
| 07:28.14 | KIAaze | what pb? |
| 07:28.37 | Judo | see, polygons are made up of multiple points so... |
| 07:28.47 | Judo | with setCoordX or Y I need to move the points |
| 07:28.55 | Judo | which, hasn't actually worked out well for me |
| 07:28.56 | Judo | http://gamepower.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gamepower/GP2D-new/branches/darkguy/src/physics.cpp?revision=413&view=markup |
| 07:29.09 | Judo | that's what I'd originally had worked out, and then I realized how stupid it was |
| 07:29.18 | Judo | (see setCoordX and setCoordY methods) |
| 07:30.42 | xavieran | I got rid of that crappy xandros from my eeepc and have just installed pure debian :) |
| 07:30.43 | KIAaze | how do you draw the points in the screenshot? |
| 07:31.35 | xavieran | magic |
| 07:32.26 | Judo | DARKGuy did that with OpenGL |
| 07:32.30 | Judo | just the usual lines |
| 07:32.37 | Judo | it's in test3 of his branch |
| 07:43.22 | KIAaze | I suppose "Points" is a map of relative vectors, not absolute ones |
| 07:43.24 | KIAaze | no? |
| 07:44.28 | KIAaze | i.e. for a square, you have 0(0,0), 1(0,1), 2(1,1), 3(1,0) |
| 07:45.34 | KIAaze | setCoordX looks like a method to place the center of the polygon, not all its points |
| 07:45.48 | KIAaze | the polygon is then drawn relative to that center |
| 07:45.51 | Judo | Points is absolute |
| 07:45.57 | Judo | which could be changed |
| 07:46.23 | Judo | It seemed that it would be easier to work with when I get around to rotatiosn |
| 07:46.26 | Judo | rotations* |
| 07:46.38 | KIAaze | mmh, no |
| 07:46.54 | KIAaze | rotations will be a lot easier with points relative to a center |
| 07:48.20 | KIAaze | actually, the method shouldn't differentiate between circles and polygons |
| 07:48.31 | KIAaze | it's just on point to set to a specific coord |
| 07:49.01 | Judo | true, true |
| 07:49.07 | Judo | I'll need to change that later on |
| 07:56.28 | Azzkikr | good mroing |
| 08:02.14 | KIAaze | good morning here too :) |
| 08:12.15 | xavieran | wb KIAaze |
| 08:12.17 | xavieran | wb doseryder also :) |
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| 08:18.28 | xavieran | wb theY4Kman |
| 08:19.26 | Judo | He's asleep |
| 08:23.01 | KIAaze | he joins asleep? |
| 08:25.13 | Judo | the client probably does that automatically |
| 08:26.00 | KIAaze | I just stacked a bunch of elastic susies using chipmunks :) |
| 08:26.12 | KIAaze | about to add mouse support |
| 08:35.59 | Judo | I suppose I've got quite a bit of work to do on dah fixz then |
| 08:36.45 | Judo | hmmm... but everything is based around absolute coordinates |
| 08:36.50 | Judo | center of mass, even |
| 08:37.16 | doseryder | hey xavieran :) |
| 08:37.32 | xavieran | Hello doseryder :) |
| 08:38.24 | xavieran | Just cooking an omelette for my younger sibling |
| 08:38.51 | KIAaze | mmh, what does clog write to? stdout by default or is there some log file? |
| 08:42.43 | doseryder | what's in the omlette? I'm good at making ground beef omlette sandwich |
| 08:43.06 | doseryder | Its easy to make and its filling :) |
| 08:47.10 | KIAaze | GPTexture* texSusi = new GPTexture("susi.png"); -> gives me static init and destruction error :( |
| 08:47.29 | KIAaze | is there no way to make a global var using new? |
| 08:48.19 | KIAaze | otherwise, is there any way to pass args to input handlers? |
| 08:48.21 | xavieran | doseryder, just lettuce, capsicum, and small tomatoes, as well as some strong paprika ... |
| 08:50.33 | Judo | why not make the pointer global? |
| 08:50.47 | KIAaze | i just did |
| 08:50.53 | KIAaze | but now I still get a segfault |
| 08:51.43 | KIAaze | doing a clean rebuild |
| 08:52.00 | KIAaze | still segfault :( |
| 08:52.47 | Judo | and I'mma sleep now |
| 08:58.12 | KIAaze | good night |
| 08:58.39 | KIAaze | it works, I just forgot to put the GPTexture constructor after the GP engine init |
| 08:58.56 | KIAaze | but now it segfaults when I want to add a Susi :) |
| 09:16.34 | KIAaze | Azzkikr, how do I access x,y when using a mouse handler? |
| 09:18.17 | KIAaze | never mind, i found it |
| 09:18.25 | KIAaze | event.getX() |
| 09:26.48 | KIAaze | class vec3 gone? :( |
| 09:40.48 | KIAaze | .... |
| 09:41.00 | KIAaze | += overloaded instead of + |
| 09:41.54 | xavieran | I need a good icon theme... |
| 09:42.19 | KIAaze | interesting, vectors can be divided by vectors in GP2DVector |
| 09:42.33 | KIAaze | tango? |
| 09:42.41 | KIAaze | oxygen? |
| 09:42.43 | Azzkikr | KIAaze: who overloaded? |
| 09:42.49 | Azzkikr | what class, I mena |
| 09:42.58 | xavieran | KIAaze, tango isn't so nice... |
| 09:43.00 | KIAaze | branches/darkguy/src/physics.cpp |
| 09:43.03 | KIAaze | GP2DVector |
| 09:43.04 | xavieran | I already have it... :D |
| 09:43.17 | KIAaze | I wanted to use vec3 like in the old GP2D |
| 09:43.22 | KIAaze | but it's gone |
| 09:43.33 | KIAaze | so I'm trying to use stuff that already exists |
| 09:51.45 | xavieran | I just realized that the eee pc 701 is a faster machine than my usual desktop machine... |
| 09:52.06 | xavieran | Talk about embarrasing... |
| 09:52.42 | KIAaze | ^^ |
| 09:52.56 | KIAaze | so it's worth buying it? |
| 09:53.24 | KIAaze | how long does the battery hold? |
| 09:53.52 | xavieran | For me it is xD |
| 09:53.52 | xavieran | KIAaze, around 3-4 hours, depending on what you run... |
| 09:53.58 | xavieran | But the crappy xandros install was the _first_ thing to go... |
| 09:54.08 | xavieran | I now have debian running happily with lxde... |
| 09:58.46 | KIAaze | where are SCREEN_WIDTH SCREEN_HEIGHT vars now? |
| 10:09.24 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.30 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.30 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.30 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.30 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.30 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.31 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.33 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.35 | KIAaze | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.37 | KIAaze | so I shall do |
| 10:10.54 | xavieran | Mammon slept. And the beast reborn spread over the earth and its numbers |
| 10:10.54 | xavieran | grew legion. And they proclaimed the times and sacrificed crops unto the |
| 10:10.54 | xavieran | fire, with the cunning of foxes. And they built a new world in their own |
| 10:10.54 | xavieran | image as promised by the |
| 10:10.54 | xavieran | sacred words, and spoke |
| 10:10.55 | xavieran | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:10.57 | xavieran | naught but a follower. |
| 10:10.59 | xavieran | from The Book of Mozilla, 11:9 |
| 10:11.03 | xavieran | (10th Edition) |
| 10:16.55 | KIAaze | long live Firefox! |
| 10:23.50 | xavieran | Aye! |
| 10:29.29 | KIAaze | mmh, I had a .gif of smileys worshipping Firefox. Can't find it anymore. :( |
| 10:30.49 | xavieran | xD |
| 10:31.43 | KIAaze | well, found this now: http://homeusers.brutele.be/jpbardiau/anigif/anigif_03.html :) |
| 10:31.53 | KIAaze | but the gif I was looking for is not there |
| 10:32.49 | KIAaze | http://www.fileden.com/files/2008/8/2/2030947/anigifs/angif_68.gif |
| 10:32.51 | KIAaze | found it! |
| 10:33.59 | xavieran | xD |
| 10:34.05 | xavieran | Quite entertainin |
| 10:34.13 | xavieran | s/// |
| 10:50.28 | KIAaze | Azzkikr, is there any example using multiple cameras? |
| 10:50.42 | xavieran | http://www.crazydogtshirts.com/servlet/the-1676/jesus-saves-soccer-t/Detail |
| 10:50.49 | KIAaze | because it looks like there is no camera vector o something like that at all |
| 10:54.33 | xavieran | http://bbspot.com/News/2003/02/ati_ascii.html |
| 10:55.11 | xavieran | Dedicated Nethacker, Byron Wilkes, who has ascended twelve times, said, "I was frightened when the band of o's attacked me. They were so realistically drawn. It was scary." |
| 10:58.15 | KIAaze | 1000 fps! holy shit! |
| 10:59.42 | xavieran | Unreal, eh? |
| 11:00.04 | xavieran | Let's see crusty old iteam run that fast... |
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| 13:33.59 | adamorjames | morning |
| 13:41.18 | adamorjames | KIAaze? |
| 13:45.09 | KIAaze | morning |
| 13:48.04 | adamorjames | KIAaze! |
| 13:48.12 | adamorjames | KIAaze: how you doing? |
| 13:48.16 | KIAaze | mmh, segfault only happens when I start the physics with cpSpaceStep. why? |
| 13:48.25 | KIAaze | I'm doing great. :) |
| 13:48.33 | KIAaze | how are you doing? |
| 13:48.48 | adamorjames | ummm good |
| 13:49.39 | adamorjames | hey KIAaze would you buy an iteam poster? |
| 13:49.47 | adamorjames | xD |
| 13:49.56 | KIAaze | mmh, no, unlikely |
| 13:50.04 | KIAaze | but who knows... |
| 13:50.15 | KIAaze | if iteam gets cult status, maybe |
| 13:50.23 | adamorjames | xD |
| 13:50.30 | KIAaze | I'd want a poster full of iteam characters! xD |
| 13:50.53 | adamorjames | KIAaze: what about an iteam shirt? |
| 13:50.58 | KIAaze | full like in the screenshot with lots of susies I once made |
| 13:51.06 | adamorjames | haha |
| 13:51.09 | KIAaze | I don't know. |
| 13:51.33 | KIAaze | if my finances are good, yes, I might buy one. But I want a discount as a developer. ;) |
| 13:52.10 | adamorjames | xD |
| 13:53.42 | KIAaze | mmh, maybe "discount" wasn't the word I was looking for. I just mean "reduced price". |
| 13:53.50 | adamorjames | haha |
| 13:53.54 | KIAaze | the wikipedia definition sounds more complex |
| 13:54.41 | adamorjames | KIAaze: I have a t-shirt thing going http://www.zazzle.com/adamorjames |
| 13:55.06 | adamorjames | I may add iteam so you all can buy iteam shirts and stuff |
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| 13:58.48 | KIAaze | Do you have to pay to offer shirts on zazzle? |
| 13:59.07 | KIAaze | or is it free and they just take a percentage of the sales? |
| 13:59.21 | adamorjames | free to make shirts |
| 13:59.55 | adamorjames | KIAaze: they take a lot of the money tho |
| 14:00.10 | KIAaze | and art licensing? |
| 14:00.20 | adamorjames | you get 10% unless you want to raise the shirt price |
| 14:00.50 | adamorjames | KIAaze: no name brands like Google and such |
| 14:00.56 | adamorjames | all original |
| 14:01.15 | adamorjames | you can make them but people can't buy them |
| 14:01.31 | adamorjames | I've tried |
| 14:01.45 | adamorjames | I had to add a little license thing on one of my private shirts |
| 14:02.04 | KIAaze | can't buy them? |
| 14:02.15 | adamorjames | KIAaze: it's illegal |
| 14:02.27 | adamorjames | telling how it is free to use distribute etc |
| 14:02.49 | adamorjames | one of the commons license |
| 14:02.57 | adamorjames | it was for the Inkscape logo |
| 14:03.10 | adamorjames | I did a pretty nice job |
| 14:04.02 | adamorjames | KIAaze: you can't just create a Google shirt and expect it to be ok |
| 14:04.06 | adamorjames | xD |
| 14:04.21 | adamorjames | KIAaze: original is the easiest way to go |
| 14:04.39 | KIAaze | yes, but if you upload iteam art, do you give them permission to do whatever they want with it? |
| 14:05.03 | adamorjames | eh? |
| 14:05.06 | KIAaze | I mean iteam art doesn't have any official licensing as far as I know, but it will probably be CC or GPL |
| 14:05.35 | adamorjames | the shirts are made on-demand |
| 14:05.41 | adamorjames | when people want them |
| 14:05.43 | adamorjames | so... |
| 14:06.20 | adamorjames | it's not like they are making shirts before hand and other stuff and using your art when you don't know.. |
| 14:06.41 | adamorjames | they only use your art when someone orders your product |
| 14:07.16 | adamorjames | anyways |
| 14:07.18 | KIAaze | yes, but some sites ask you to allow them to do whatever they want with what you upload. So it's better to be careful. |
| 14:07.41 | adamorjames | haha |
| 14:08.03 | KIAaze | I've got to go now. Sorry. Going to watch Benjamin Button. ;) |
| 14:09.12 | adamorjames | "You retain all ownership rights to your Content submitted to the Site. By submitting Content to Zazzle, you grant Zazzle a nonexclusive, worldwide, transferable license to use, copy, reproduce, modify, publicly display, and distribute your Content." |
| 14:09.26 | adamorjames | see? |
| 14:09.43 | adamorjames | anyways now that KIAaze is gone |
| 15:42.54 | theY4Kman | Goddamn shitty ass Floridian system |
| 15:43.32 | theY4Kman | I submitted 10-15 homework assignments to my AP Comp Sci class online, named "13.04.zip", "15.07.zip", etc |
| 15:43.57 | theY4Kman | I've gotten about 9 emails now saying there's nothing in the zip files |
| 15:44.27 | theY4Kman | It turns out that it strips off everything after the first '.' and keeps the file extension |
| 15:44.54 | theY4Kman | So "13.04.zip", "13.05.zip", and "13.06.zip" all got uploaded as "13.zip" |
| 16:30.56 | adamorjames | lol |
| 16:35.41 | adamorjames | Floridian sounds funny |
| 16:36.00 | adamorjames | probably one of the stupidest sounding things I've heard |
| 16:41.28 | adamorjames | reminds me of toothpaste |
| 16:41.52 | adamorjames | Florida the toothpaste state |
| 16:41.55 | adamorjames | xD |
| 16:42.27 | adamorjames | fluoride... |
| 18:14.38 | theY4Kman | http://news.zdnet.com/2100-9595_22-268236.html |
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| 18:54.25 | theY4Kman | http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=sts7ncpu3w |
| 18:54.26 | theY4Kman | JESUS |
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| 19:21.17 | theY4Kman | http://video.stumbleupon.com/#p=70dp445z9z |
| 19:24.12 | Judo | I like this Slick engine |
| 19:24.15 | Judo | and JBox2D is so fast |
| 19:24.35 | Judo | now, I just need time to put them together making a SSB-like game with lots 'o 'splosions |
| 19:26.25 | Judo | theY4Kman: The violin video, what song is that? |
| 19:26.44 | theY4Kman | It's many songs by Michael Jackson |
| 19:26.52 | theY4Kman | Though the most prominent at the end is Smooth Criminal |
| 19:26.55 | Judo | part of it sounds like the Halo theme |
| 19:33.51 | theY4Kman | You sound like the Halo theme |
| 19:52.31 | Judo | I want to do some DVD releases of anime |
| 19:52.46 | theY4Kman | Er |
| 19:52.51 | Judo | my Miyazaki DVDs have good quality, but none of the ones out there are good |
| 19:52.52 | theY4Kman | You want to "do" them? |
| 19:52.57 | Judo | encode? |
| 19:53.04 | theY4Kman | Ah |
| 19:53.11 | Judo | Kiki's Delivery Service looks pretty amazing with the right filtering |
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| 20:01.00 | Judo | DARKGuy: How's development going? |
| 20:01.24 | DARKGuy | nothing yet, I woke up a hour ago |
| 20:01.38 | DARKGuy | but I get your point, I was browsing yesterday's log |
| 20:02.51 | DARKGuy | I'm gonna grab tortoiseSVN and see what can I do today |
| 20:02.58 | DARKGuy | this day is kind of a downer to me, heh. |
| 20:16.19 | theY4Kman | Did that girl find out you're gay? |
| 20:16.43 | Judo | I'm sure she did. He's quite flamboyant. |
| 20:18.55 | theY4Kman | As straight as Charlie Sheen on a shemale |
| 20:27.40 | antiyou | XD |
| 20:49.26 | DARKGuy | Judo: FIXED |
| 20:49.40 | DARKGuy | :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 20:49.41 | DARKGuy | AND IT WORKS |
| 20:49.44 | DARKGuy | ^_________^ |
| 20:52.03 | DARKGuy | Judo: check out my branch |
| 20:52.22 | DARKGuy | Judo_: ----- |
| 20:52.27 | DARKGuy | Judo_: -------^ |
| 20:53.42 | Judo | fixed what? |
| 20:53.51 | DARKGuy | your physics stuff. |
| 20:53.55 | DARKGuy | the square moves correctly now |
| 20:53.59 | DARKGuy | no dissapearing points |
| 20:54.04 | Judo | you got the points to move properly?! |
| 20:54.05 | Judo | Yay! |
| 20:54.08 | DARKGuy | yes! |
| 20:54.14 | DARKGuy | you need a bit of refactoring though |
| 20:54.19 | Judo | next up, bounces |
| 20:54.29 | Judo | at which point, I think physics will be ready for iteam |
| 20:54.31 | DARKGuy | I think I changed SetCoord's behaviour to something like SetVelocity in the GPSprites xD |
| 20:54.51 | DARKGuy | Setting a coordinate will be a bit harder though |
| 20:54.58 | DARKGuy | you gotta calculate offsets, and that beats me |
| 20:55.15 | DARKGuy | like |
| 20:55.21 | Judo | yeah, I noticed it, too |
| 20:55.31 | Judo | I changed the x coords of each Point |
| 20:55.38 | Judo | so they didn't disappear, they were all the same |
| 20:55.43 | DARKGuy | for setCoordX's in a square shape, you gotta calculate each point's offset relative to the actual shape's position |
| 20:56.08 | DARKGuy | oh, well |
| 20:56.09 | Judo | so setCoordX now takes the change in x? |
| 20:56.22 | DARKGuy | it takes an "acceleration" amount |
| 20:56.23 | DARKGuy | like |
| 20:56.33 | DARKGuy | setCoordX(2.0f) would move the shape 2.0f points to the right |
| 20:56.37 | DARKGuy | instead of world's 2.0f |
| 20:56.49 | DARKGuy | not exactly the point, but it works |
| 20:56.56 | DARKGuy | I don't know how to calculate such offsets |
| 20:58.20 | Judo | right, delta x rather than an absolute value |
| 21:00.35 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 21:00.56 | Judo | now... how does one determine which edge an object has hit? |
| 21:01.00 | Judo | I shall figure this out |
| 21:01.59 | DARKGuy | oh, that's a job for maths |
| 21:02.07 | DARKGuy | I think there was a tutorial already on that topic |
| 21:02.07 | Judo | well, it's good that poly coll is working perfectly |
| 21:02.13 | DARKGuy | yeah man |
| 21:02.18 | DARKGuy | you're genius, seriously. |
| 21:02.24 | Judo | so, DARKGuy, once I get this bounce working... |
| 21:02.35 | Judo | shall we furiously rework iteam and bump the UF thread? |
| 21:02.40 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 21:02.41 | Judo | we could get a lot of help from that |
| 21:03.12 | Judo | and DARKGuy, we _really_ need some kind of custom music loader |
| 21:03.13 | DARKGuy | once bounce is working I need to know if you can work on the GUI to have it working at least for having some buttons and use the animated sprites |
| 21:03.39 | DARKGuy | so I'll do the menu and make the terrain placing the vertexes manually |
| 21:03.40 | Judo | oh right, GUI |
| 21:03.49 | DARKGuy | terrain destruction shall come later, after we bump the UF thread |
| 21:03.54 | Judo | yeah, a toolkit wouldn't be too difficult, I suppose |
| 21:04.13 | DARKGuy | yeah, but collisions are the main priority :p |
| 21:04.58 | Judo | circle -> poly will be next, but that's not a priority |
| 21:05.12 | DARKGuy | eh, poly -> poly works good enough for now |
| 21:05.17 | DARKGuy | pretty fast tbh |
| 21:05.23 | Judo | quite |
| 21:05.36 | Judo | http://slick.javaunlimited.net/viewtopic.php?t=1358 |
| 21:05.43 | Judo | check out the speed on the domino pyramid example |
| 21:08.00 | Judo | I do wonder now how I'm going to determine which is overlapping |
| 21:08.08 | Judo | 'cause once I do that, the actual calculation should be easy |
| 21:08.52 | DARKGuy | Remember that line example? |
| 21:08.54 | DARKGuy | that one with the images |
| 21:09.01 | DARKGuy | and wow, the demos are impressive |
| 21:09.10 | Judo | yeah, Box2D is extremely good |
| 21:09.12 | adamorjames | Judo: o_O |
| 21:09.14 | Judo | even the Java port is fast |
| 21:09.25 | DARKGuy | yeah it is |
| 21:09.25 | Judo | but Chipmunk is probably still faster, and it can model gravity |
| 21:09.31 | adamorjames | I feel sorry for the guy being slung around |
| 21:09.33 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:09.36 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 21:09.39 | Judo | I mean, actual gravity, not just falling |
| 21:09.45 | DARKGuy | yeah true dat |
| 21:10.05 | Judo | it's all a bunch of trig and vector math, though |
| 21:10.25 | adamorjames | 60 fps on all |
| 21:10.26 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:10.32 | DARKGuy | ya same |
| 21:10.33 | DARKGuy | that's awesome |
| 21:11.02 | Judo | have you guys gotten to the domino pyramid yet? |
| 21:11.05 | DARKGuy | I did |
| 21:11.11 | Judo | did it run in real-time? |
| 21:11.13 | adamorjames | ahhh |
| 21:11.16 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 21:11.20 | adamorjames | domino tower stress test is not 60 |
| 21:11.23 | adamorjames | :( |
| 21:11.24 | Judo | neither of my computers an do it in real-time :( |
| 21:11.41 | Judo | I bet my PS3 could if I put Java on it |
| 21:12.43 | adamorjames | ps3 uses a weird emulated environment for Linux that reduces it's true potential |
| 21:12.52 | Judo | it's native |
| 21:13.00 | Judo | and IBM has a Java VM that runs pretty well |
| 21:13.00 | adamorjames | orly? |
| 21:13.37 | DARKGuy | domino tower goes at 10fps for me |
| 21:13.38 | DARKGuy | heh |
| 21:13.47 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you try slingshoting? |
| 21:14.23 | DARKGuy | yup |
| 21:17.49 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234645908741.jpg |
| 21:17.55 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:19.15 | Judo | http://slick.cokeandcode.com/static.php?page=demos *cough* |
| 21:22.41 | Judo | DARKGuy: Where did you see this demo about determining which edge is being hit? |
| 21:23.55 | DARKGuy | internet |
| 21:23.58 | Judo | I can think of one way, but that involves a memory that may or may not hurt performance |
| 21:23.59 | DARKGuy | it's on the logs... |
| 21:24.01 | DARKGuy | lmme see. |
| 21:24.17 | adamorjames | Judo DARKGuy how do you sleep? http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234644876745.gif |
| 21:24.36 | DARKGuy | me? |
| 21:24.39 | DARKGuy | freefaller xD |
| 21:24.45 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:24.58 | Judo | freefaller here |
| 21:25.09 | DARKGuy | So much for 7% huh |
| 21:25.42 | adamorjames | lol |
| 21:25.57 | adamorjames | "If you sleep freefaller it means, |
| 21:25.58 | adamorjames | Often gregarious and brash people, but can be nervy and thin-skinned underneath, and dont like criticism, or extreme situations." |
| 21:26.10 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 21:26.17 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:26.41 | adamorjames | "Freefaller with hands cupping my nuts." |
| 21:27.52 | adamorjames | o wait |
| 21:27.54 | adamorjames | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234645258044.jpg |
| 21:28.01 | adamorjames | forgot that one |
| 21:29.20 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234645614972.jpg |
| 21:29.28 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:29.39 | Judo | DARKGuy: find it? |
| 21:31.18 | Judo | I might try to implement my idea |
| 21:36.32 | DARKGuy | Well... |
| 21:36.40 | DARKGuy | they're not exactly the one I've been looking for |
| 21:36.42 | DARKGuy | but here it is |
| 21:36.42 | DARKGuy | http://www.cescg.org/CESCG-2000/PSovis/index.html |
| 21:36.51 | DARKGuy | this might help, it has codez. |
| 21:36.51 | DARKGuy | http://gpwiki.org/index.php/Polygon_Collision |
| 21:37.05 | DARKGuy | or this one |
| 21:37.06 | DARKGuy | http://www.harveycartel.org/metanet/tutorials/tutorialA.html |
| 21:37.17 | DARKGuy | or http://www.codeproject.com/KB/GDI-plus/PolygonCollision.aspx |
| 21:37.32 | Judo | the N tutorial gave me the idea of remembering which edge the routine exited on last time |
| 21:37.51 | Azzkikr | hi. |
| 21:37.53 | Judo | because, if all other projections are overlapping, then this is the one that is not, if all are overlapping next time around, this is the one that was penetrated |
| 21:37.56 | Judo | horribly worded |
| 21:37.57 | DARKGuy | isn't that what you're looking for ? |
| 21:38.02 | DARKGuy | hey Azzkikr |
| 21:38.06 | DARKGuy | polygon collisions work! |
| 21:38.08 | Judo | Azzkikr: Check out DARKGuy's branch and run test3 |
| 21:38.17 | Azzkikr | no i dont know svn |
| 21:38.22 | DARKGuy | wtf |
| 21:38.32 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 21:38.34 | Judo | He's mocking me. |
| 21:38.37 | Azzkikr | :D |
| 21:38.46 | DARKGuy | Well he might not know svn |
| 21:38.55 | DARKGuy | but he has the brainz to make calculus that we don't |
| 21:38.56 | Judo | Azzkikr: It's not that I can't commit, it's just that he fixed what I didn't |
| 21:39.10 | DARKGuy | ^_^ |
| 21:39.17 | Judo | but now I've copied his branch and I'll be getting bounces in there |
| 21:39.25 | Judo | at which point, we'll be ready for iteam |
| 21:40.10 | DARKGuy | hm, this might help? |
| 21:40.10 | DARKGuy | http://www.box2d.org/forum/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=2082 |
| 21:43.09 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234644876745.gif |
| 21:43.11 | adamorjames | choose |
| 21:43.22 | DARKGuy | Well I fixed code |
| 21:43.27 | DARKGuy | I'm gonna go to NFSMW for a little bit |
| 21:43.42 | Azzkikr | nsfw |
| 21:43.55 | DARKGuy | lol, no |
| 21:44.04 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: choose |
| 21:44.09 | Azzkikr | foetus |
| 21:44.13 | adamorjames | ahh |
| 21:44.17 | DARKGuy | :O |
| 21:44.47 | adamorjames | "Those who curl up in the foetus position are described as tough on the outside but sensitive at heart." |
| 21:44.57 | adamorjames | <3 |
| 21:45.00 | Judo | Azzkikr is girly. |
| 21:45.05 | DARKGuy | tw |
| 21:45.08 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 21:45.14 | DARKGuy | nah |
| 21:45.18 | DARKGuy | girls usually like those guys |
| 21:45.19 | DARKGuy | right? |
| 21:45.20 | DARKGuy | anyways |
| 21:45.23 | DARKGuy | Josie Maran ftw. |
| 21:45.24 | DARKGuy | she's hot. |
| 21:45.36 | Azzkikr | wow great |
| 21:45.50 | Azzkikr | chix dig |
| 21:46.37 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: remember you are "Often gregarious and brash people, but can be nervy and thin-skinned underneath, and dont like criticism, or extreme situations" because you sleep in the freefall position |
| 21:46.54 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you don't like extreme stuff |
| 21:46.56 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:47.10 | Azzkikr | rofl |
| 21:47.11 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: like asking a girl out jajajaja |
| 21:47.22 | Azzkikr | well, I always lie down in several positions at start |
| 21:47.30 | Azzkikr | but when I wake up, I always lie as a foetus |
| 21:47.41 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: interesting |
| 21:47.58 | Azzkikr | and btw, im used to foetus positions too because i normally sleep together with someone against her like that |
| 21:48.04 | Azzkikr | i.e. spooning or something like that |
| 21:48.20 | DARKGuy | what the fuck man |
| 21:48.22 | DARKGuy | I was driving |
| 21:48.22 | DARKGuy | adamorjames |
| 21:48.24 | DARKGuy | -.-.... |
| 21:48.34 | adamorjames | driving? |
| 21:49.02 | adamorjames | see DARKGuy? "can be nervy" |
| 21:49.09 | adamorjames | that's you xDDD |
| 21:50.18 | adamorjames | omg http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234647977805.jpg |
| 21:50.38 | adamorjames | that cat is fat |
| 21:51.09 | adamorjames | Judo: Boxxy http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234648168135.png |
| 21:52.02 | Judo | omg it's her |
| 21:52.03 | DARKGuy | spooning is awesome |
| 21:52.23 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 21:52.33 | Azzkikr | yeah i love that |
| 21:52.35 | adamorjames | Judo: I've seen other pics of her |
| 21:52.45 | adamorjames | Judo: outside and such |
| 21:53.02 | Azzkikr | why is boxxy so ... popular |
| 21:53.11 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234647491229.jpg |
| 21:53.13 | Judo | She's cute and hyper |
| 21:53.26 | adamorjames | xD |
| 21:54.36 | Azzkikr | holy fuck she is annoying |
| 21:54.55 | DARKGuy | XD |
| 21:55.00 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: matter of opinion |
| 21:55.34 | Judo | She is queen. |
| 21:55.41 | Judo | Anyway, I like Slick and JBox2D |
| 21:55.43 | Azzkikr | ugh |
| 21:56.01 | adamorjames | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234648192444.jpg |
| 21:56.04 | adamorjames | O_O |
| 21:56.14 | Azzkikr | well excuse me adamorjames, next time let's just prepend everything with "my opinion is that ..." |
| 21:56.35 | adamorjames | Azzkikr: yes let's |
| 21:57.08 | DARKGuy | -_- |
| 21:57.09 | DARKGuy | jesus |
| 21:57.17 | DARKGuy | can't you two get along? damnit |
| 21:57.35 | DARKGuy | one just likes to throw wood to the fire |
| 21:57.41 | DARKGuy | and the other reacts to it |
| 21:57.42 | DARKGuy | -.- |
| 21:58.38 | DARKGuy | I know iteam is all happiness and free coding and voluntary stuff and so on |
| 21:58.59 | DARKGuy | but if there's something I don't tolerate is stuff like this |
| 21:59.16 | DARKGuy | so, I'm going to ask this only once |
| 21:59.22 | DARKGuy | and I'm going to be nice this only one time |
| 21:59.53 | DARKGuy | please adamorjames, stop contradicting / making snappy comments at Azzkikr |
| 22:00.00 | DARKGuy | and please Azzkikr, just don't mind him >_<. |
| 22:00.15 | DARKGuy | I don't feel good typing this |
| 22:00.30 | DARKGuy | so I hope you two guys understand, make amends, and have everything flow again nicely, ok? |
| 22:00.32 | DARKGuy | thanks -_-". |
| 22:02.56 | adamorjames | /rant |
| 22:04.40 | DARKGuy | it's not a rant. |
| 22:04.53 | DARKGuy | if something makes us a good team is that we don't have inner fights. |
| 22:05.05 | DARKGuy | Ever heard the saying "Divide and you'll win" ? |
| 22:05.09 | DARKGuy | Well, if we divide, we lose. |
| 22:05.18 | DARKGuy | So, for avoiding that, it's better to not to fight. |
| 22:05.18 | adamorjames | I'll divide you! |
| 22:05.19 | DARKGuy | Get it? |
| 22:05.23 | DARKGuy | xD. |
| 22:05.24 | DARKGuy | -.-" |
| 22:05.28 | adamorjames | ~slash DARKGuy |
| 22:05.29 | ibot | ACTION slices DARKGuy in two with a samurai sword. |
| 22:05.34 | DARKGuy | D: |
| 22:05.37 | adamorjames | xD |
| 22:06.55 | adamorjames | http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234647939324.png |
| 22:06.58 | adamorjames | boxxy! |
| 22:15.05 | *** join/#iteam antiyou (n=antiyou@68-190-130-33.dhcp.eucl.wi.charter.com) |
| 22:16.48 | adamorjames | wb n |
| 22:34.49 | Judo | alright, I know what I'm going to do for bounce, but it's going to require a change in the API, basically :( |
| 22:36.31 | DARKGuy | Well, do it |
| 22:37.27 | Azzkikr | what kind of change? |
| 22:37.50 | Judo | for example, creating a struct just for the return of the function |
| 22:37.57 | Judo | method* |
| 22:38.01 | Judo | and one more parameter |
| 22:38.16 | DARKGuy | Well, nobody's using your physics API -yet- |
| 22:38.19 | DARKGuy | though I'm eager to ^^; |
| 22:39.05 | Judo | I don't like the idea of defining a struct for external use, though |
| 22:39.18 | Judo | it's just annoying to introduce a new object to someone that uses my code |
| 22:39.28 | Azzkikr | come again? |
| 22:39.50 | Judo | bool isColliding() vs. collisionResult isColliding() |
| 22:40.04 | Judo | collisionResult.willCollide == true { hurr; } |
| 22:40.28 | adamorjames | omgwtf nsfw http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234650862857.jpg |
| 22:40.41 | adamorjames | srsly wtf |
| 22:40.45 | DARKGuy | haha |
| 22:40.46 | DARKGuy | what a rat. |
| 22:41.07 | DARKGuy | Judo: so you want to put the edge inside the return value? |
| 22:41.25 | Judo | it's the best way |
| 22:41.39 | DARKGuy | Well, the old collision code that Mikey did was similar |
| 22:41.43 | DARKGuy | he just used flags instead |
| 22:42.04 | DARKGuy | and structs are useable. SDL functions return structs |
| 22:42.10 | DARKGuy | take a look at SDL events for example |
| 22:43.05 | Azzkikr | Judo: that is not a bad thing |
| 22:43.30 | Azzkikr | I'd prefer to use classes instead of structs tho |
| 22:43.50 | Azzkikr | but returning a type is not bad |
| 22:44.48 | Azzkikr | depends on the situation/context of course, but in this case it'll be okay, rite |
| 22:45.27 | DARKGuy | I agree |
| 22:45.32 | Judo | I suppose, I think I'll do the same for circles, too then |
| 22:48.03 | adamorjames | Judo: more boxxy http://img.4chan.org/b/src/1234651459746.jpg |
| 22:48.33 | Judo | I'm not so sure that's Boxxy |
| 22:48.47 | adamorjames | Judo: why not? |
| 22:48.57 | Judo | It doesn't look like her and those aren't normal artifacts |
| 22:49.08 | Azzkikr | 'artifacts', heh |
| 22:50.19 | DARKGuy | it's called boobs |
| 22:53.21 | Azzkikr | hahaha |
| 22:54.18 | DARKGuy | ^^ |
| 22:54.34 | Azzkikr | omgwtflololaslsexsexbbq! |
| 22:54.44 | Azzkikr | or something haha |
| 22:57.43 | Judo | http://www.cokeandcode.com/demos/platformer/platformer.jnlp |
| 22:57.43 | DARKGuy | hahahaha |
| 22:57.44 | Judo | weeeeeeeee |
| 22:58.09 | DARKGuy | OMGHAIHOWRUUWANTDATEKURSEXYHAHABYEOMGWTFROFLMAOZ0RBBQSEXSEXSEX |
| 22:59.43 | adamorjames | aeeeeeeeeeeeeei |
| 23:00.15 | Azzkikr | Judo: NICE DEMO |
| 23:00.20 | Azzkikr | soz, caps |
| 23:00.31 | adamorjames | alien character ftw! |
| 23:00.39 | DARKGuy | awesome demo! |
| 23:00.40 | DARKGuy | o_o |
| 23:00.47 | DARKGuy | brb, dinner |
| 23:00.54 | adamorjames | anyone else getting stripes in the demo? |
| 23:01.05 | DARKGuy | I am |
| 23:01.19 | adamorjames | interesting |
| 23:03.21 | adamorjames | Judo: I have finished 9 eps of Noein |
| 23:03.56 | adamorjames | Judo: it's still strange but O |
| 23:04.10 | adamorjames | *I am hoping by 13 or so it gets better |
| 23:21.04 | adamorjames | YouTube will be allowing video publishers to get money for their videos |
| 23:21.10 | adamorjames | interesting |
| 23:21.15 | DARKGuy | sweet |
| 23:21.27 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: original content only of course |
| 23:21.30 | adamorjames | :P |
| 23:21.41 | DARKGuy | bah |
| 23:21.50 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you will basically be charging people to view your videos |
| 23:22.10 | DARKGuy | Ahaha |
| 23:22.11 | DARKGuy | I imagined. |
| 23:22.28 | adamorjames | you'd have to have something pretty nice tho I assume for people to want to pay |
| 23:22.30 | DARKGuy | And that's where somebody rises and says "Youtube sucks!" and makes his own video uploading site |
| 23:22.46 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: what's wrong with allowing people to make money? |
| 23:22.57 | DARKGuy | They charge you. |
| 23:23.01 | adamorjames | ? |
| 23:23.02 | adamorjames | so |
| 23:23.11 | DARKGuy | Google doesn't charge you for viewing site ads |
| 23:23.15 | adamorjames | I won't watch their videos then |
| 23:23.23 | adamorjames | I'll watch free videos |
| 23:23.26 | adamorjames | duh |
| 23:23.38 | DARKGuy | I'll watch free videos, and look for pirated versions of the pay-per-view videos. |
| 23:23.45 | DARKGuy | so screw youtube. |
| 23:23.45 | adamorjames | haha |
| 23:23.51 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: no no |
| 23:23.56 | DARKGuy | Also, they broke an agreement with WMG |
| 23:24.07 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: you mean screw the people you want to be paid for their videos |
| 23:24.09 | DARKGuy | so all videos with WMG-copyrighted songs/sound/etc has its sound disabled |
| 23:24.11 | DARKGuy | so screw that. |
| 23:24.26 | DARKGuy | that too |
| 23:24.34 | DARKGuy | but I'm sure somebody with money will do it and release them for free. |
| 23:24.35 | adamorjames | *screw the people you want to be paid for their videos |
| 23:24.42 | adamorjames | *who |
| 23:24.54 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: ya... |
| 23:25.13 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: if this free idea keeps going... |
| 23:25.32 | DARKGuy | expect to see more people moving to google videos |
| 23:25.32 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: in the future what will we have? |
| 23:25.49 | DARKGuy | we'll have free internet and information |
| 23:25.53 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: if no one gets paid we have nothing |
| 23:26.01 | adamorjames | hahaha |
| 23:26.05 | DARKGuy | Well |
| 23:26.06 | adamorjames | you're funny DARKGuy |
| 23:26.11 | DARKGuy | I'm being serious |
| 23:26.12 | DARKGuy | -.- |
| 23:26.20 | adamorjames | no Hollywood |
| 23:26.29 | adamorjames | no... |
| 23:26.39 | DARKGuy | considering WMG would blame youtube for a video of mine with a song and remove my video's sound, I won't support them anymore. |
| 23:26.40 | adamorjames | no games |
| 23:26.45 | adamorjames | etc |
| 23:26.52 | adamorjames | you can't have everything for free |
| 23:26.56 | DARKGuy | you can |
| 23:27.02 | adamorjames | ... |
| 23:27.19 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: someone somewhere paid for what you have |
| 23:27.21 | DARKGuy | it depends on what do you value. |
| 23:27.29 | DARKGuy | for example |
| 23:27.40 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: nothing is free |
| 23:27.53 | DARKGuy | I got a w580i for free. I just gave that girl my 8600GT and sold her my w300i, and she ended up owing me money |
| 23:27.55 | DARKGuy | so I won |
| 23:27.55 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: everything has had to be paid by someone |
| 23:27.56 | DARKGuy | ^_^. |
| 23:27.58 | DARKGuy | Yes |
| 23:28.08 | DARKGuy | tangible stuff has to be paid for |
| 23:28.17 | DARKGuy | but you can't charge for something that gets free sooner or later |
| 23:28.18 | DARKGuy | as I said |
| 23:28.27 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: what do you think about big servers and such |
| 23:28.29 | DARKGuy | if you put something on the internet, don't expect it to be sealed forever |
| 23:28.37 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: movie production |
| 23:28.43 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: game production |
| 23:28.48 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: software production |
| 23:28.58 | DARKGuy | games will end up living from online subscriptions and MMOs |
| 23:29.10 | DARKGuy | look at Steam for example |
| 23:29.17 | adamorjames | hmm |
| 23:29.25 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: what if movies go that way too? |
| 23:29.37 | DARKGuy | the cinema won't be killed |
| 23:29.41 | adamorjames | what if movies become more than video |
| 23:29.50 | DARKGuy | not everyone has a 300-square-foot room for a screen of that size |
| 23:29.59 | adamorjames | what if movies integrate programming so that they can't be copied |
| 23:30.05 | adamorjames | llike |
| 23:30.07 | DARKGuy | somebody will crack it |
| 23:30.11 | DARKGuy | it's just a matter of time |
| 23:31.05 | adamorjames | a monthly subscription uniquely made through various attributes specific to you.. hair color.. eye color.. blood type.. height |
| 23:31.13 | adamorjames | etc |
| 23:31.14 | adamorjames | :D |
| 23:31.22 | DARKGuy | somebody will get it |
| 23:31.22 | adamorjames | no more free stuff then |
| 23:31.23 | DARKGuy | rip it |
| 23:31.25 | DARKGuy | and sell it in dvds. |
| 23:31.49 | adamorjames | hahaha |
| 23:32.07 | adamorjames | DARKGuy: all I'm saying is if there is no money to be made then it dies |
| 23:32.15 | adamorjames | simple as that |
| 23:32.15 | DARKGuy | that's true |
| 23:32.30 | DARKGuy | companies have to find a way to get money in a way they don't piss users of |
| 23:32.32 | DARKGuy | *off |
| 23:32.42 | DARKGuy | that includes payment methods |
| 23:33.04 | adamorjames | hahaha |
| 23:33.09 | adamorjames | you want everything for free |
| 23:33.16 | DARKGuy | you know, I wouldn't pirate games if it weren't because they're expensive, my country is excluded from any payment methods (including paypal accounts) and people who import the game overseas sell them at ludicrous prices |
| 23:33.55 | adamorjames | hmm |
| 23:34.13 | DARKGuy | if I could buy games over some service that doesn't include a box (like Steam) I would buy them. But guess what? thanks to this government I can't get a credit card with support for buying stuff overseas (or with US$), or any other online payment method. |
| 23:34.39 | adamorjames | good thing you're moving |
| 23:34.50 | adamorjames | but remember credit cards suck |
| 23:34.53 | DARKGuy | There -are- methods though. I don't mind sending my payment through MoneyGram or Western Union, but companies don't accept it, and that forces me to pirate what I can't get. |
| 23:35.35 | adamorjames | why do people want to rely on credit cards? |
| 23:35.40 | DARKGuy | I mean, hell, if I can get an iPhone, I can spend 20 bucks on a game. |
| 23:36.15 | DARKGuy | because they're a global payment method |
| 23:36.34 | adamorjames | xD |
| 23:36.59 | adamorjames | I guess.. |
| 23:37.11 | DARKGuy | :P |
| 23:37.13 | DARKGuy | now, back to nfsmw |
| 23:37.27 | adamorjames | I guess credit cards are okay as long as you pay them back after you used them |
| 23:37.38 | adamorjames | like right after |
| 23:37.51 | adamorjames | otherwise it's stupid |
| 23:38.15 | adamorjames | or you're in an emergency |
| 23:39.38 | adamorjames | I'm thinking about trying out Yodlee for my financial stuff btw |
| 23:40.03 | adamorjames | not that you'd know anything about it (Venezuela) |
| 23:40.07 | adamorjames | http://yodlee.com/ |
| 23:41.31 | DARKGuy | xD |
| 23:41.38 | DARKGuy | talking about the previous topic though |
| 23:41.43 | DARKGuy | there's also something that comes down to it |
| 23:41.51 | DARKGuy | for example, pirating games is good sometimes. |
| 23:42.04 | DARKGuy | why? it lets you try the full game/app before wasting money on i |
| 23:42.06 | DARKGuy | *it |
| 23:42.08 | DARKGuy | for example |
| 23:43.42 | DARKGuy | I have countless pirated games. I'd totally buy NFS:MW, Call of Duty 4 & 5, Halo 1 & 2, DMC4, GRID, CS:S, HL2, Warcraft 3, TR Underworld/Legend/Anniversary, Fear, etc. Because they're games that are really worth the time. They're fun and awesome, like a movie worth seeing (like one from Michael Bay, George Lucas, Spielberg, etc) |
| 23:44.08 | DARKGuy | And they're worth my money, and because by buying them I'm supporting them, and they deserve it because it's a great game. |
| 23:45.08 | DARKGuy | I would become really pissed if I had bought Exodus: Escape from Earth, Stolen, Xyanyde Resurrection, BF 2142 or Transformers |
| 23:45.31 | DARKGuy | or LOTR: Return of the King |
| 23:45.41 | DARKGuy | which had ANNOYING unskippable cutscenes |
| 23:46.23 | DARKGuy | or Mirror's Edge :/ |
| 23:48.05 | DARKGuy | If it weren't for piracy, I wouldn't know if the latest Metallica disc was worth buying (which is accessable here and I might buy it when I finish paying for my iPhone) |
| 23:49.40 | DARKGuy | Also, some games are worth paying for playing online. By that I mean pay-once-play-forever not pay-once-then-monthly-fees like WoW. |
| 23:50.04 | DARKGuy | For example, CS:S on Steam is a bliss to play on the VAC servers. There are no cheaters or lamers around |
| 23:50.37 | DARKGuy | And the price is right, 20 bucks. I'm paying $651 in 4 parts for my iPhone |
| 23:50.42 | DARKGuy | of course I can support Valve |
| 23:50.59 | DARKGuy | but you know, neither my country or valve allow me to support them^_^. |
