| 01:25:00 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | hi, all :) |
| 01:26:10 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | does anyone know how to put a DLink DCF-650W wireless PCMCIA card to work on the iPaq? |
| 01:26:56 | jg_ | what kind of chip is in it? |
| 01:27:12 | jg_ | Have you checked the supported hardware list in the wiki? |
| 01:27:29 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | i think it's a prism2, from what i read on the handhelds.org site |
| 01:28:28 | jg_ | have you plugged it in and tried it? |
| 01:28:59 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | in the supported hardware list it says it only works with the wvlan_cs driver... |
| 01:29:07 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | it's plugged in... :) |
| 01:29:23 | jg_ | .5.2 reverted to using that driver.... |
| 01:29:34 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | my first attempt was to plug it in and see if a "ifconfig -a" would show it... |
| 01:31:51 | jg_ | Ok, do a /sbin/cardctl ident: get the product info string |
| 01:32:09 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | just a sec... |
| 01:32:25 | jg_ | Then look to see if it is /etc/pcmcia/config |
| 01:33:50 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | humm... i don't have cardctl... is there a package i should've installed? |
| 01:34:19 | jg_ | have you installed PCMCIA stuff? |
| 01:34:25 | jg_ | How far in the install are you? |
| 01:34:33 | jg_ | what version did you install? |
| 01:35:35 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | actually, this is a bit complicated... |
| 01:35:50 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | i work for a company in portugal (that's where i am) |
| 01:35:59 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | that develops software for restaurants |
| 01:36:26 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | i was trying to port our main application to work on the iPaq |
| 01:37:00 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | anyway, it wasn't me who installed Linux on the iPaq... |
| 01:37:12 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | (i was on my HoneyMoon at the time :) |
| 01:37:40 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | so i don't know exactly which steps were already taken, and which ones are missing |
| 01:38:10 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | the /proc/version reports a 2.4.16-rmk1 kernel version |
| 01:39:01 | jg_ | any reason not to install .5.2? |
| 01:39:18 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | a 2.5.2 kernel? |
| 01:39:31 | jg_ | no, Familiar .5.2... |
| 01:39:44 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | or a familiar 0.52? |
| 01:39:47 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | ok |
| 01:40:15 | jg_ | You are running something older: the current kernel version is 2.4.18 something or other... |
| 01:40:39 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | maybe the [ready for testing] "warning" on the site misleaded my coleague :) |
| 01:41:01 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | that isn't good |
| 01:41:35 | jg_ | Familiar .5.2 was released last week. |
| 01:42:16 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | ok... maybe i should upgrade everything (and possibly a fresh instalation) before bothering people again... |
| 01:42:55 | jg_ | I don't know if you can upgrade from where you are to .5.2 (given you don't know what you are running). |
| 01:43:09 | jg_ | A fresh install should go OK. |
| 01:43:34 | jg_ | In any case, it seems likely you should be able to use that wireless card. |
| 01:44:12 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | there are several reports on the handhelds site of the card working... |
| 01:44:31 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | that's why we bought this particular card |
| 01:44:45 | jg_ | We tried using the orinoco driver for a while, but we backed it out in .5.2. |
| 01:44:59 | jg_ | I'd have bought a Lucent, myself.... |
| 01:45:19 | jg_ | so .5.2 uses the wvlan driver again. |
| 01:45:39 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | there's a problem with availability around here :) |
| 01:46:17 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | so, are you involved in the Familiar project? |
| 01:46:56 | jg_ | yes |
| 01:47:16 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | ops.. just saw it - jg: Jim Gettys :) |
| 01:48:32 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | this project i'm wroking on is quite interesting... |
| 01:48:43 | jg_ | so what does your app do? |
| 01:48:51 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | it started in 1996, when it was a DOS application compiled with DJGPP |
| 01:49:51 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | it was all written in C++, adn was later ported to WINDOZE.. |
| 01:50:03 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | and recently ported to Linux (finally :) |
| 01:51:06 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | the application has it's own graphical interface and writes directly to the framebuffer, so it's ideal to run on an iPaq or similar device |
| 01:51:59 | jg_ | geez... You don't like my window system? |
| 01:52:08 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | Most of the application is running on the iPaq now, but the "pointer alignment" restriction caused a bug or two... |
| 01:52:26 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | what is your window system? |
| 01:52:32 | jg_ | in any case, at that size screen running in a window just isn't a performance bottleneck... |
| 01:52:33 | jg_ | X |
| 01:53:47 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | actually i like X :) |
| 01:54:27 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | the problem is that the application was initially built to run under DOS... |
| 01:54:30 | jg_ | easiest way to get your app to work is to make it work under X on your desktop, and then move it to the ipaq.... |
| 01:55:05 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | the application already works on any framebufferon the Desktop... and now runs on the iPaq :) |
| 01:55:30 | jg_ | do you really want to reinvent the rest of what you'll need? |
| 01:56:32 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | no, i'm actually a lot against reinventing... |
| 01:57:18 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | but the graphics portion of the application is less than 3000 lines of code in a 80000 lines of code app |
| 01:58:45 | jg_ | just render into a bunch of memory, and putimage it when you need to... |
| 01:58:45 | jg_ | If people play doom that way, you can surely make your app work... (though doom bothers to use the shared memory extension, I think). |
| 01:59:04 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | this way you get a single executable that does everything... and compiles to DOS, Windows and Linux... and the graphics were already done, so it would be more trouble to take them off than to keep them... |
| 02:00:32 | jg_ | Well, that says to me you really want it to run in a general environment. You have two choices: make it run under X, or use Qtopia. Problem with Qtopia is it is GPL'ed, so you may not be able to use it and keep your app. But you can certainly run under X. |
| 02:01:02 | jg_ | Either rewrite to native X, or do Putimage if you want to minimize changes.... |
| 02:01:35 | jg_ | Ok, then push the pixels... |
| 02:02:28 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | actually, i do have another application that i would like to run under X... |
| 02:02:28 | jg_ | Otherwise you'll have to write alot more than 3K lines for all the support stuff you'll need. |
| 02:03:49 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | i work in my spare time to make a team of soccer plating robots (maybe you've heard something about the RoboCup) |
| 02:04:04 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | (playing, not plating :) |
| 02:05:13 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | imagine that i have an application that uses Video4Linux to get frames from a video camera, processes them, and displays the result in a window |
| 02:05:56 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | the trick part is that it should display 2 384x288-depth 16 frames 25 times per second... |
| 02:06:37 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | these frames are not what the camera sees, but the result of the processing |
| 02:07:15 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | what's the best way to accomplish this under X... is there any way to write to the graphics board directly? |
| 02:11:21 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | well, i must go to bed now (it's 3:13 a.m here :) |
| 02:12:07 | jg_ | sorry, sick kid.... |
| 02:12:14 | jg_ | send me mail... |
| 02:12:34 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | jg@pa.dec.com? |
| 02:12:56 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | mine is pmarques@restinfor.pt |
| 02:13:30 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | i'll send you a demo.tar.gz of the application as soon as it's full functional :) |
| 02:15:16 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | bye |
| 02:15:37 | linux_on_iPaq_ne | (i hope your kid gets better) |
| 06:33:55 | cruiserman | lo |
| 08:39:27 | Kemical | hi there |
| 08:39:50 | Kemical | is it possible to install linux on ipaq using usb craddle, t |
| 08:39:56 | Kemical | thats all i have |
| 10:36:35 | soaii | hi |
| 10:37:06 | soaii | does anybody know if how i can mount RAM on my ipaq |
| 11:26:56 | Adamz765 | ipaq can run linux? |
| 11:32:52 | gonz | definetely yes - see http://www.handhelds.org/ |
| 11:35:11 | soaii | does anybody know if how i can mount RAM on my ipaq |
| 11:35:32 | soaii | i want to bypass OS |
| 11:35:49 | soaii | and directly suck data from RAM |
| 11:37:20 | gonz | soaii: in the wiki for nvrd at handhelds.org there is a description. basically you use the "mem=xx" as kernel parameter and have the rest for your own purpose |
| 12:08:45 | soaii | no, i want to surface mount the physical chips |
| 17:55:19 | soaii | does anybody know how i can surface mount RAM on my ipaq |
| 18:44:16 | kyi | http://kyi.sytes.net/images/backgrounds/ipaq/ |
| 18:44:29 | kyi | ipaq backgrounds, more to come later to night |
| 20:41:35 | WiseGuy58 | HELP! |
| 20:41:48 | WiseGuy58 | i didn't even install Linux on it |
| 20:42:00 | WiseGuy58 | the screen is bent |
| 20:42:02 | WiseGuy58 | well |
| 20:42:22 | WiseGuy58 | displays fine, input is fine on left hand side, and makes a nice curve when you try to draw a straight line on the right. |
| 20:55:18 | sgodsell | is away: looks at the time, and is late for an appointment |
| 21:00:53 | WiseGuy58 | any suggestions? |
| 21:00:58 | WiseGuy58 | other than calling HPaq? |
| 21:09:43 | cmarqu | Pobably a support thing, yes. |
| 21:10:21 | WiseGuy58 | ah, ok |
| 21:10:40 | WiseGuy58 | dreads HP support since he got his Pavilion without his restore disks |
| 21:10:53 | cmarqu | (just my personal opinion though :) |
| 21:10:57 | WiseGuy58 | sent me the wrong thing 3 times, at which point i just returned the already crappy box to the store) |
| 21:11:15 | WiseGuy58 | "Oh i wonder why. I'll overnight you the real stuff now." |
| 21:11:47 | WiseGuy58 | *next morning* "Hmm? wrong stuff again?? Ohh lemme find out why.... Ok. Problem in shipping. It'll be right this time." |
| 21:11:58 | WiseGuy58 | *next morning* "I give up!!" |
| 21:13:06 | cmarqu | :) |
| 21:13:47 | cmarqu | Here in Europe, things will even get shipped abroad if you are unlucky... Netherlands I think (abroad for me). |
| 21:14:12 | BBrox | cmarqu: well, Netherlands is not really abroad as it's in the EEC :-) |
| 21:15:04 | cmarqu | BBrox: Okay... I could buy some other goodies while there... better bring it personally :) |