irclog2html for ipaq on 2001.10.01

13:00:14pattiejais back (gone 35:02:06)
15:19:21you are totally unimportant
15:19:21mattzzibot: mattzz
15:19:34mattzz;-)
15:20:33beeblebroxis away: Away!
16:29:40sjohnsonis away: lunch
16:41:06nikosis away: errand
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18:24:27try http://linux-mtd.infradead.org/
18:24:27nikosibot: jffs2
18:25:43sjohnsonwails, gnashes his terrn, and pulls handsful of hair hair from his head
18:26:44nikossjohnson: I'm feeling much the same way today.
18:39:29mattzzcu
18:44:32sjohnsonnikos: Just go off the phone with a programmer that is virtually clueless about networks. Sometimes I'm dumbfounded that anything at all works.
18:45:18nikossjohnson: yes indeedy *nod*
20:19:44sjohnsonArrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggggggggggh! more teeth gnashing and  hair pulling....
20:21:13nikossjohnson: I work out my agression through my legs which I find myself constantly tapping up and down.  That and all the squeeze toys I have in the office and the balls I throw at the wall and....
20:21:44sjohnsonI want my Nerf Chain gun.....
20:46:12Nganyone alive?
20:46:55nikosNg__: Yes
20:47:43Ng__just a quick question, in the familiar install instructions, after booting it says to configure the network, what do I need to do to actually connect the thing to the network? presumably it does that through the USB?
20:48:13nikosNg__: Your choice.
20:48:26nikosNg__: usbnet, ppp, CF card, PCMCIA card, etc.
20:49:05Ng__are there some instructions for setting up usbnet anywhere?
20:49:12it has been said that usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking
20:49:12nikosibot: usbnet
20:49:18Ng__lovely :)
20:49:31Ng__now I've just got to wait another 20 minutes while the root image uploads ;)
20:53:02Ng__does the default root image include tools for doing x/y/z modem transfers?
21:03:28supermariohi
21:24:58Ng__hmm
21:25:33Ng__I've just booted linux on the ipaq, loads fine, but if I start any X app with blackbox running it doesn't appear. if I kill blackbox and run something (e.g. rxvt) it appears fine
21:25:37Ng__any ideas? :)
21:35:34linmodemre
21:35:41linmodemwhen does the new ipaq come out?
21:36:05sjohnsonBy all accounts Oct 4
21:36:17linmodemsweet in 4 days
21:36:20linmodem3 days
21:36:21linmodem;)
21:36:23linmodemwhat is it called again?
21:36:27linmodemwhat is the numbers on it?
21:37:03linmodemsjohnson you know?
21:37:13sjohnson38xx
21:37:31sjohnsonAnd a new 37xx model
21:37:38DragonEaglehey, coo, any specs known yet?
21:38:18linmodemk, and also--- if i put linux on my ipaq, can i use any pc card that is supported in linux? (I can, right? )
21:40:21DragonEagleis away: I need to go lie down for a bit
21:41:19linmodemsjohnson you got linkage for the new ipaq?s
21:41:24linmodembecause i cannot find them on compaq's page
21:41:37sjohnsonlinmodem: I can't the find the article I liked best.
21:43:31linmodemhttp://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?cat%5Fname=Wireless&cat%5Fid=105&dept%5Fid=1420&pf%5Fid=MP500413&listing=1 <<sweet
21:43:34linmodem2gig pccard
21:43:47linmodem350$
21:43:56linmodemsjohnson any artical is great :)
21:45:22sjohnsonhttp://www.davescompaqipaq.com/3800.htm
21:45:38sjohnsonSpecs and pictures.
21:46:00sjohnsonDragonEagle: http://www.davescompaqipaq.com/3800.htm
21:46:38linmodemsweet
21:46:39sjohnsonlinmodem: Any PC Card linux kernel supports should work in iPAQ except for Card Bus. Ipaq hardware doesn't support it.
21:47:05linmodemwhat is cardbus ipaq hardware?
21:47:06linmodem:)
21:48:09linmodemsweet
21:48:12linmodemvoice commands
21:48:14sjohnsonCardbus is to PCI as PCMCIA is to ISA.
21:48:45linmodemhmm
21:48:57linmodemyou have any clue how much these are going to be?
21:49:37linmodem11. Bluetooth Status Indicator <<<sweeett!
21:49:44sjohnsondepend on model $600 to $800
21:49:46linmodembuilt in bluetooth
21:49:48linmodemoh
21:49:50linmodemheh
21:49:57linmodemeyah i htink i will stick with the old ones
21:49:57linmodem:)
21:50:16linmodemwhat is soo great about the new ones?
21:50:25linmodembesides bluetooth and adding different battery
21:50:35sjohnson32 Flash ROM
21:50:39sjohnson32MB
21:50:47sjohnsonFor PocketPC 2002
21:50:50linmodemwhat was it before?
21:50:54sjohnson16MB
21:51:07linmodemoh.. i see
21:51:46sjohnson16MB is enough for full Familiar install and some apps.
21:51:47linmodemdoes the old ones have voice commands?
21:51:59sjohnson32MB will be Nirvana. :)
21:52:48sjohnsonlinmodem: It's all software voice recog. There might be a couple of free packages that would work. But I don't know of any one porting them.
21:53:05linmodemhmm
21:55:17linmodem$497  -  iPAQ H3670
21:55:18linmodem$414  -  iPAQ H3650
21:55:18linmodem$443  -  iPAQ H3635
21:55:18linmodem$419  -  iPAQ H3630
21:55:24linmodemall those good ones?
21:55:33linmodemwhat would differ?
21:55:40linmodemin the 36xx
21:55:42linmodemhmm
21:56:47sjohnson36xx ipaqs are all the same. the different is what is packaged with iPAQ. CF sleeve, etc.
21:57:27linmodemahhh ok
21:57:43linmodem414$ good price though for 3650?
21:58:45sjohnsonActually I'm wrong the 3670 has 65 MB of memory the rest have 32MB
21:58:58linmodemohh
21:59:38linmodemare ipaqs a lot better than jornados?
22:00:06sjohnson$415 is a good price. You don't know want to know now much I paid for mine back when they were scarce.
22:00:16linmodemheh
22:01:02sjohnsonThe current models are more less the same. The old Jornada had ROM and not FLASH coun't upgrad the OS.
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