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| 08:29:02 | _Axu_ | hi folks |
| 09:42:12 | peter_neubauer | hello, does anyone know where to get the source for the migle/familiar-framework? |
| 11:36:27 | nukewave | ???: T0:23:respawn:... what meanīs that?; (inittab) |
| 13:12:34 | Marco | hi |
| 13:12:44 | nikos | Hello Marco |
| 13:12:57 | Marco | hoooo, some1 |
| 13:13:27 | Marco | I'm looking for information about Java and the ipaq ... can you help me ? |
| 13:14:01 | nikos | Marco: I would recommend searching the wiki and the mailing lists (which can be searched from the main search). I'm assuming you mean Java on Linux. |
| 13:14:29 | Marco | On Linux or on Windows CE .... |
| 13:14:55 | nikos | Marco: We don't do Windows CE here. |
| 13:15:16 | Marco | Open source ;-) |
| 13:15:47 | Marco | yep, but like for "kaffe" ... I find out a version for the ipaq but not how to install it |
| 13:16:29 | eff-eff | help with familiar-0.5 and 3c574_cs! |
| 13:17:27 | Marco | Nikos: A thing you might know, the driver for the Lucent wavelan card, is it the same as in the linux kernel 2.4.xx ?? |
| 13:23:00 | nikos | Marco: It should be yes. |
| 13:51:03 | nikos | sjohnson: When you have a couple of minutes, let me know. |
| 13:53:23 | sjohnson | nikos: I have time now. GA |
| 13:53:53 | nikos | sjohnson: What kernel are you using now on your ipaq? And can I use 0.1.9 with it? |
| 13:56:40 | sjohnson | nikos: I'm using 2.4.7 -hh6. But I've also tried it on -hh5. |
| 13:56:53 | nikos | sjohnson: So no go with 2.4.9? |
| 13:58:37 | nikos | sjohnson: What did you do for the Flash upgrade on the SMC card? |
| 14:00:28 | sjohnson | nikos: I haven't been able to flash my card yet. I tried getting a PCI WLAN card the weekend, but the d*mned card didn't agree with my Win98 box. :-P |
| 14:00:55 | nikos | sjohnson: Is it absolutely necessary to flash it to use the new wlan-ng? |
| 14:01:11 | sjohnson | nikos: No. Only to use ad_hoc. |
| 14:01:39 | nukewave | WhoHaveTime: Why doesnīt work ifconifg (command not found) when I open a rxvt; whoami=root |
| 14:01:40 | nikos | sjohnson: Ahhhh. I don't use that, OK. So does wlan-ng not work with 2.4.9 at all? |
| 14:02:33 | nikos | nukewave: Did you make sure the ifconfig command is there? Then ldd the ifconfig file and make sure all libraries it is linked to are also installed. |
| 14:02:38 | sjohnson | nikos: I haven' tested. Yet I just got the kernel compiled. I still have to compile pcmcia-cs and wlan-ng. |
| 14:03:07 | nikos | sjohnson: Do you have to compile your own? There's a 2.4.9 kernel and modules on Lorien. |
| 14:03:58 | sjohnson | nikos: I use the ipkgs. But wlan-ng is real picking about having all of the headers and the like from a compiled kernel. |
| 14:04:23 | nikos | sjohnson: Huh, I thought make config was sufficient. OK. |
| 14:04:46 | sjohnson | nikos: Not quite. |
| 14:06:01 | nukewave | nikos: ifconifg works; it doesnīt works when I open a rxvt on the Ipaq; |
| 14:06:46 | _Axu_ | bye folks |
| 14:15:39 | nukewave | WhoHaveTime: stowd; Can't set line discipline: Device or resource busy |
| 14:16:21 | terrys | sjohnson: you got a seconds to talk about prism downloads ? |
| 14:16:47 | sjohnson | terrys: Sure. |
| 14:17:15 | terrys | you've built 0.1.9 right ? |
| 14:17:23 | sjohnson | terrys: Yes. |
| 14:17:39 | nikos | nukewave: I'm not sure that makes sense. At least I can't make sense of it. The only thing I can think is a different PATH. |
| 14:17:43 | terrys | that soesn't include the prism2dl.c right ? |
| 14:18:06 | terrys | s/soen't/doesn't |
| 14:18:24 | sjohnson | terrys: Correct. The only versions I found were from 0.1.7. They don't like 0.1.9 code too well. |
| 14:18:59 | terrys | ahh ok - do you specifically need to reflash the prism from an iPAQ ? |
| 14:19:35 | terrys | or will any machine do ? |
| 14:20:25 | sjohnson | terrys: I would like to. My efforts with a Win98 box didnt go well. |
| 14:21:37 | nikos | sjohnson: I'm fixing to see if I can try with a Win98 laptop. |
| 14:22:03 | terrys | OK do I understand you to mean you would like to reflash from a Linux box ARM, 386 etc or specifically the iPAQ |
| 14:22:52 | sjohnson | terrys: I don't have a laptop. The IPAQ is the only machine that I have that has PCMCIA slots. |
| 14:23:13 | peter_neubauer | hello, does anyone know where to get the source for the migle/familiar-framework? |
| 14:23:43 | nukewave | nikos: what mean (inittab); T0:23:respawn:... ? |
| 14:24:16 | nikos | peter_neubauer: http://cvs.handhelds.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/familiar/framework/ |
| 14:24:19 | MalFal | Hey... does anyone know which familiar package hs the ps utility? |
| 14:24:33 | nikos | nukewave: `man inittab` |
| 14:24:35 | sjohnson | MalFal: procps |
| 14:24:44 | nukewave | ;-) |
| 14:25:49 | terrys | sjohnson: ok understood - I have a 386 binary that might be useful but I'll keep trying for something that works with 0.1.9 on an iPAQ |
| 14:25:50 | MalFal | sjohnson: Thankson |
| 14:29:53 | sjohnson | hates SPAM. Message 677 of 81,385 NEW |
| 14:31:05 | nikos | sjohnson: I'm about ready to try one of the procmail based systems myself. |
| 14:46:26 | terrys | sjohnson: where in 0.1.7 did you find prism2dl ? I just snarfed the tar from absolute.. ultimately I just want to know what the most recent version is... |
| 14:48:54 | sjohnson | I grabbed it from a cached google page. |
| 14:49:31 | terrys | sjohnson: can you blow a copy over this direction :) |
| 14:57:46 | terrys | sjohnson: thanks - btw I'm curious what are you're using/will be using for a MAC core image ? |
| 14:59:34 | sjohnson | terrys: I got the file from smc.com, in their support section. |
| 15:01:15 | nikos | OK, where do I find the ROM upgrade? I've got the card working in a Win98 laptop, but I can't find the ROM on the SMC site. |
| 15:02:25 | nikos | I found it now I think. |
| 15:02:35 | terrys | where ? |
| 15:03:08 | nikos | err, no I didn't |
| 15:03:21 | nikos | It takes me to the download page, and I see nothing in the list that sounds right. |
| 15:04:37 | terrys | what card are you guys using exactly ? |
| 15:05:20 | nikos | SMC2632W |
| 15:05:27 | nikos | It's not the Linux patch for adhoc is it? |
| 15:06:00 | sjohnson | nikos: No. |
| 15:08:00 | sjohnson | Try their Europe web site. http://www.smc-europe.com/english/support/driver_manual/wirel.html |
| 15:08:11 | nikos | ok |
| 15:09:20 | nikos | found it |
| 15:09:28 | nikos | terrys: It's on the smc-europe site. |
| 15:09:38 | nikos | thanks sjohnson |
| 15:10:44 | terrys | nikos: yup thanks I see it |
| 15:11:49 | MalteseFalcon | is away: I'm busy |
| 15:13:38 | nikos | cools, its updated now. Watch it not work with Linux anymore... ;) |
| 15:13:47 | nikos | is away: Errands |
| 15:15:20 | beeblebrox | is away: Away! |
| 15:19:19 | terrys | sjohnson: so my next question is how close are you to nikos :) |
| 15:22:15 | sjohnson | terrys: I actually don't know. I;m in the middle of Arkansas, US. |
| 15:26:06 | terrys | sjohnson: ahh thats going to be challenging - isn't he in Tennessee or Pennsylvania somewhere... |
| 16:23:16 | tlocalhos | has anybody the gps jacket ?? |
| 16:37:53 | dctanner | hey |
| 16:44:23 | nikos | is back |
| 16:45:05 | nikos | terrys: KY |
| 16:45:59 | terrys | nikos: oh sorry - I knew it was in around there somewhere :) |
| 16:46:56 | nikos | terrys: Yeah, close enough. ;) |
| 16:47:49 | terrys | nikos: ok so for what its worth - how many provinces are there in Canada ? |
| 16:49:41 | nikos | terrys: Uh, are you testing my geophraphical knowledge? ;) |
| 16:49:56 | nikos | terrys: 5 or 6? I don't really know. |
| 16:49:58 | terrys | nikos: more like challenging my own :) |
| 16:50:10 | nikos | terrys: You realize I mean Kentucky, USA right? |
| 16:50:26 | terrys | nikos: as opposed to the jelly ? |
| 16:50:43 | nikos | terrys: Just trying to figure out how Canada slipped into the conversation. ;) |
| 16:50:59 | nikos | terrys: Sadly I've had little use for the other in some time now. ;) |
| 16:52:19 | nikos | "Canada is divided into ten provinces and two territories. However this will soon change. In 1992, the people of the Northwest territories decided to |
| 16:52:19 | nikos | divide their territory into two sections. The eastern section will be known as Nunavut. The western portion may be called the New Western |
| 16:52:19 | nikos | Territory, although it is commonly referred to as Denendah or Nahendeh. " |
| 16:53:05 | terrys | nikos: wooo - and up to date as well - I'm impressed :) |
| 17:20:45 | nikos | sjohnson: It would just be too embarrassing to bring a Windows laptop to ALS. |
| 17:23:15 | sjohnson | nikos: I've got a couple of friend that I think I can con,um,er, ask to flash my cards. |
| 17:23:29 | nikos | sjohnson: :) |
| 17:23:57 | nikos | sjohnson: That's more or less what I did. I just didn't ask. ;) |
| 17:25:37 | terrys | geez - ye of little faith - I'll get this downloader working yet... |
| 18:03:54 | sjohnson | is away: BRB |
| 18:11:24 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:07:29) |
| 18:13:39 | terrys | sjohnson: I now have a prism2dl arm binary you can try or do wanta stick using windoze ? |
| 18:14:04 | sjohnson | terrys: I'll give it a try. |
| 18:14:57 | terrys | sjohnson: so I'm assuming you'll pick apart the SMC zip file for the firmware image... |
| 18:15:53 | sjohnson | terrys: Yes. It's just a HEX formatted file. |
| 18:16:35 | terrys | sjohnson: exactly... good |
| 19:55:50 | nukewave | whohavetime: cardmgr[83]: executing: './network start eth0' how can I can change that to ae. ./network start eth0 192.168.0.4 |
| 20:22:24 | nukewave | WhoHaveTime: Iīm looking for the file where this is execute cardmgr[83]: executing: './network start eth0' |
| 20:23:48 | sjohnson | nukewave: Edit the /etc/pcmcia/network.opts to get interface config. |
| 20:25:08 | nukewave | ;-)))) |
| 20:33:39 | terrys | sjohnson: when you built 0.1.9 did you use the pcmcia-cs-3.1.29 source tree ? |
| 20:35:29 | sjohnson | terrys: I'm using 3.1.27, It doesn't really matter the version. You configure it to use kernel pcmcia. |
| 20:35:48 | terrys | ok |
| 21:18:01 | DragonEagle | is away: bbi10 |
| 21:18:59 | sgodsell | is away: bbiaw |
| 22:07:44 | `pwgen` | hello all |
| 22:24:27 | pattieja | is away: have to reboot the server, just a moment... |
| 22:38:36 | pattieja | is away: I'm busy |
| 22:38:54 | pattieja | is back (gone 00:00:03) |
| 22:53:13 | sgodsell | is back (gone 01:34:14) |
| 22:59:35 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 01:41:33) |
| 23:11:22 | gmkp | Hello, has anyone tried qpe on mono ipaq? |
| 23:12:41 | sgodsell | is away: Got to go |
| 23:17:52 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner |
| 23:41:00 | catch23 | what was the linuxargs fix to solve the "Id "T0" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes" thing? |
| 23:41:32 | gmkp | catch23: You can try with "init=/bin/sh" |
| 23:42:57 | catch23 | trying right now... |
| 23:44:42 | catch23 | hmm it works but isn't what I wanted haha... I'm trying to get intimate working over familiar 0.5 |
| 23:44:54 | catch23 | with my dual sleeve and wireless cards... |
| 23:45:12 | catch23 | I got intimate installed perfectly, just can't seem to pivot_root into it properly... |
| 23:49:55 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:32:02) |