| 00:00:54 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 02:27:39) |
| 00:25:59 | DragonEagle | is away: movie |
| 00:41:30 | hunger | Hi! |
| 00:42:02 | hunger | How do I upload the bootloader into my iPaq? I tried minicom, cu and hyperterminal. None of them worked! |
| 00:57:30 | sjohnson | is away: I've lost my mind, and I've gone to look for it... |
| 00:57:40 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:00:06) |
| 01:11:18 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 00:45:19) |
| 01:40:26 | noriko | how long can an ipaq idle? |
| 01:40:32 | noriko | before the batteries die |
| 01:44:05 | DragonEagle | is away: just away |
| 01:53:45 | sjohnson | noriko: idle as in sleep mode or the ipaq doing nothing powered on? |
| 02:00:19 | noriko | sleep |
| 02:00:53 | noriko | while the display is off |
| 02:02:05 | sjohnson | The screen scan be turned off with screen save, but the process will still be active. |
| 02:02:28 | noriko | it lasts a few days for me |
| 02:02:29 | sgodsell | noriko you can turn down the cpu |
| 02:02:42 | sjohnson | But for sleep, right that varied. Some people can barely get one day other can get upwards of a week. |
| 02:02:57 | sjohnson | The kernel still need to be tweaked for the power management. |
| 02:03:02 | noriko | depends what's running in background |
| 02:03:16 | noriko | ic |
| 02:04:26 | sgodsell | Well for my iPAQ I use the power button, I turn off the /proc/sys/ts/suspend_button_mode, then I scale the cpu back to its lowest level, and turn off the display. |
| 02:04:40 | sjohnson | noriko: When the ipaq is in deep sleep mode. The everything is turned off. There is enough power to keep RAM alive and a couple of regirested and clock in the CPU active. |
| 02:05:05 | sgodsell | Actually I do the /proc/sys/ts/syspend_button_mode as boot startup |
| 02:06:06 | noriko | i have trouble with that button |
| 02:06:30 | noriko | won't turn on first hit, second hit it turns on, i touch the screen, it turns off, etc |
| 02:06:38 | noriko | eventualy it turns on for good |
| 02:07:16 | sgodsell | You sound like you are using the 2.4.3 kernel? |
| 02:07:25 | noriko | i'm not sure |
| 02:08:01 | noriko | my good desktop is being repaired and i haven't compiled anything for it. it has familiar on it now |
| 02:08:19 | sjohnson | noriko: The screen behavious after a resume of the screen saver killing in. Just hit any hardware button to top the screen saver. |
| 02:09:23 | noriko | you're saying when i turn it back on i am seeing the screen saver? |
| 02:09:57 | sjohnson | Well the screen ususally turned on but when you touch the touch screen is will turn off. |
| 02:10:05 | sjohnson | That is the screen saver killing in. |
| 02:10:21 | noriko | i turn it off normaly |
| 02:10:32 | noriko | but if the battery dies it's enabled per default |
| 02:10:37 | noriko | need to fix that |
| 02:10:39 | sjohnson | by hitting any button. |
| 02:10:53 | noriko | i'll try that next time |
| 03:16:45 | sgodsell | is away: I need sleep ZzzzZZzzzzzzZZZzzzzZ |
| 09:58:06 | | well, screenshot is at http://www.handhelds.org/z/wiki/IpaqScreenshots |
| 09:58:06 | Kero | ibot, screenshot |
| 09:58:11 | Kero | nah |
| 10:42:12 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 08:58:05) |
| 10:45:42 | spinner__ | my serial ppp connection gets colsed when the ipaq switches of, any ideas? |
| 10:55:21 | Kero | spinner__: host-side (main PC) polls the connection and ends pppd when there is no response. |
| 10:55:35 | Kero | guesses it is possible to turn off the poll. |
| 10:55:53 | morpheus | hi |
| 10:56:08 | morpheus | I am having big trouble with my iPAQ |
| 10:56:10 | Kero | prob: lcp-echo-interval 5 |
| 10:56:31 | morpheus | the only thing I can access now is the parrot :( |
| 10:57:03 | morpheus | This has been done after trying to revert back to WinCE when loading flash_00c00000.bin file |
| 10:57:12 | morpheus | Can some one help me plz ? |
| 10:57:32 | morpheus | The xmodem transfer seemed to fail ! |
| 10:57:52 | spinner__ | Kero: i.e. I should start the connection from the pda? |
| 10:58:03 | morpheus | Can someone dcc me a copy of a parrot export to cf ? |
| 10:58:46 | morpheus | someone can help ? |
| 10:59:18 | morpheus | I've tried on linux : cat flash*.bin > ce.bin |
| 10:59:32 | morpheus | and then dd if=ce.bin of=/dev/sda |
| 10:59:47 | morpheus | sda is my imagemate cf reader connected on the pc |
| 11:00:52 | Kero | spinner__: that won't help, since the client side polls, too, I think. |
| 11:01:53 | Kero | morpheus: there are fewo or none here that have experience with putting WinCE back on. |
| 11:01:59 | | Kero: excuse me? |
| 11:01:59 | Kero | ibot: parrot |
| 11:02:24 | morpheus | well that's too bad... |
| 11:02:28 | morpheus | thx anyway |
| 11:02:48 | morpheus | I'll try and search for another sol ! |
| 11:09:49 | spinner__ | Kero: so the only thing I can do, is prevent that the ipaq is switching off? |
| 11:16:49 | Kero | spinner__: no, play a bit with lcp-echo-interval an lcp-echo-failure. |
| 11:17:18 | Kero | my man-page does not really tell how to disable them, but you can try to set them to 0 and such. |
| 11:30:12 | hunger | Hi! |
| 11:30:26 | hunger | How can I access the touchscreen in linux? |
| 11:30:57 | hunger | Is there a mouse driver or something like that for it? |
| 11:31:38 | BBrox | /dev/ts0 |
| 11:32:22 | hunger | BBrox: How do I access it? Like a mouse? |
| 11:32:48 | BBrox | hunger: no idea :-) Look at the X server code :-) |
| 11:32:56 | hunger | BBrox: Thanks :-) |
| 11:36:32 | DragonEagle | is away: byebye |
| 11:58:59 | EGg0 | is away: (breakfast) |
| 12:17:18 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:18:19) |
| 13:58:20 | hunger | Hi! |
| 13:58:49 | debugger | hello |
| 14:00:20 | | dneuer was last seen on #handhelds.org 3 days, 22 hours, 38 minutes and 27 seconds ago, saying: bye [Wed Sep 5 16:21:53 2001] |
| 14:00:20 | debugger | ibot: seen dneuer |
| 14:00:41 | | rumour has it dneuer feed is http://handhelds.org/~dneuer/feed/ |
| 14:00:41 | debugger | ibot: dneuer feed |
| 14:02:23 | hunger | How can I calibrate the iPaqs Pen? I'm not in X/QPE. |
| 14:03:44 | debugger | sorry dude, my countdown to shipment is 10 days today |
| 14:04:17 | debugger | maybe I am elligible for the PocketPC 2002 free upgrade ;) kidding |
| 14:04:37 | hunger | debugger: I just borrowed 'mine'. |
| 14:05:58 | debugger | the current linux PDA I am using had a calibration tool about 300kB (2MB total ROM) so I never burnt it in and used the file that it generated the first time |
| 14:06:11 | debugger | so I dont see the use of such a tool |
| 14:07:41 | hunger | debugger: Well, I don't have such a file:-) |
| 14:08:06 | hunger | debugger: Such a tool was in the QT environment this iPaq came with, but I deleted that:( |
| 14:08:29 | hunger | Now I have neither X nor QPE, so I'm a bit lost:-) |
| 14:17:46 | debugger | why would you calibrate when you do not have anything to TAP on? |
| 14:18:15 | hunger | debugger: I'm writting a gii-driver for the touchpad so I can port Berlin to the ipaq. |
| 14:18:56 | hunger | debugger: I keep getting 65000 as a position and that messes things a bit up for me;-) |
| 14:19:18 | debugger | i think it might be correct |
| 14:19:42 | debugger | its not a pixel value |
| 14:19:54 | debugger | the touchpad has its own co-ordinates |
| 14:19:57 | hunger | debugger: I only get those 65000 near the boarder of the screen. Anywhere else I get something between 1 and 320. |
| 14:20:14 | hunger | debugger: I don't use the raw device. |
| 14:20:19 | debugger | oh ok |
| 14:20:31 | debugger | there is already a layer there |
| 14:21:10 | debugger | very near to edge or in an area where you think it should be within pixels? |
| 14:21:24 | debugger | hello nikos :) |
| 14:22:39 | hunger | debugger: It looks to me as if the 'touchsensitive' area starts a few pixels to far up. |
| 14:23:31 | hunger | hehe... I got the network card to work:-) 100MBit for the iPaq now. |
| 14:23:34 | nikos | Hi debugger |
| 14:23:42 | hunger | Hi nikos. |
| 14:23:47 | nikos | Hello hunger |
| 14:24:13 | debugger | hunger: is not that too much? I mean for a PDA ;) |
| 14:24:51 | debugger | I think even USBnet would be enuf for me, and Microsoft stole that idea for new PocketPC 2002 :( |
| 14:25:44 | hunger | debugger: Got the card together with the iPaq, so that's what I'm going to use;-) |
| 14:26:18 | debugger | cool |
| 14:26:40 | hunger | debugger: I didn't buy it, I'll have to return it in a few days:-( |
| 14:26:57 | hunger | Itg's a shame... having to return such a nice toy. |
| 14:27:12 | debugger | I think hardware should be alloted to ppl building cool stuff for it |
| 14:27:21 | hunger | agrees. |
| 14:27:33 | debugger | I won my current PDA like that but the company stoped support for it :( |
| 14:28:23 | hunger | debugger: I'd really love to get such a thingy, but I just can't find a reason strong enough to make me shell out the money for it. |
| 14:28:25 | debugger | my kernel is acting crazy, may need a kick on reset :( |
| 14:29:06 | debugger | I ordered the cheap H3135, enuf to build on it and cheap to shell out |
| 14:40:50 | _remi_ | Hi there |
| 14:41:19 | kevlo | hi |
| 14:41:24 | hunger | Hi! |
| 14:41:47 | gonz | hu! |
| 14:41:48 | _remi_ | I plan to buy an Ipaq H3660 next week. Are there issues (are 64MB supported, ...) ? |
| 14:42:10 | _remi_ | ... running linux on it, of course... |
| 14:42:11 | gonz | i believe everything works with 64mv |
| 14:43:44 | _remi_ | Does it need CF memory or microdrive to run ? |
| 14:44:31 | gonz | nope, but you're having more fun with one |
| 14:44:40 | gonz | you could also use network storage |
| 14:45:48 | _remi_ | H660 is sold with an usb craddle only, is there a way to transfer the bootloader and the kernel image with this ? |
| 14:46:19 | gonz | no, you need a serial craddle, serial cable or you could modify your usb craddle to be a dual craddle for serial and usb |
| 14:49:09 | debugger | gonz: are binaries for usbnet desktop side and/or ipaq side available? |
| 14:50:14 | gonz | yes there are .. you only need the modules usb-eth on ipaq side and usbnet on the pc-side ... all you need should be in the std-kernels |
| 14:51:05 | debugger | i have 2.4.5 on PC |
| 14:51:28 | gonz | i think it will work |
| 14:51:46 | debugger | cool |
| 14:54:02 | _remi_ | usbnet allows to make a network link between the ipaq and the pc ? |
| 14:56:30 | debugger | yes, via USB cable : after installation of linux |
| 14:56:30 | debugger | 14Mbps AFAIR |
| 14:57:09 | _remi_ | great! appears in ifconfig as a normal net device ? |
| 14:57:55 | debugger | yes but do it while the cradle is detached and when it appears attach it |
| 14:58:51 | | it has been said that usbnet is at http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/How%20do%20I%20setup%20USB%20networking |
| 14:58:51 | debugger | ibot: usbnet |
| 14:59:13 | debugger | _remi_: take a look at this address |
| 14:59:47 | _remi_ | debugger: thanx. I'll have a look. |
| 15:00:59 | _remi_ | debugger: I don't have my ipaq yet, but I'll surely want usbnet once I've bought it. |
| 15:02:06 | debugger | _remi_: same here ;) |
| 15:02:18 | debugger | mine is scheduled to land on 20th :) |
| 15:02:39 | _remi_ | debugger: what kind ? |
| 15:03:09 | debugger | H3135: the poor man's walking linux PDA ;) |
| 15:04:58 | mandor | :) |
| 15:05:20 | mandor | hi remi :) great to see some french people here :) |
| 15:06:18 | _remi_ | Hi mandor. Salut la Bourgogne ! (all: excuses for the french ;) |
| 15:06:26 | debugger | I have a 1GHz Athlon with 17 inch monitor Dolby Sound and GeforceDDR 256MB RAM and 40GB hard drive.. so H3135 is more than enough as a PDA for me |
| 15:07:36 | _remi_ | debugger: I've a 486 with 2GB IDE.. So my H3660 PDA will be more than enough too... |
| 15:08:08 | mandor | _remi_: :D |
| 15:08:33 | debugger | :D |
| 15:08:37 | mandor | 's got a lot of machine (including celeron bi-500 and alpha 500 :)), and H3630 isn't enough yet =) |
| 15:09:26 | _remi_ | mandor: are there many linux on ipaq users in france ? |
| 15:10:00 | mandor | _remi_: I know at least one =) ... I think there's as many users as in any country (tte proportion respectee ..) |
| 15:10:25 | _remi_ | mandor: if any, could be a cool occasion for a dinner... |
| 15:10:52 | mandor | _remi_: maybe, one day .. |
| 15:11:11 | mandor | 's very busy at this time and will be a lot busier in the next months :( |
| 15:12:43 | _remi_ | mandor: did you own an ipaq ? Did you buy it in France ? |
| 15:12:50 | mandor | _remi_: yep |
| 15:13:38 | _remi_ | mandor: I didn't find for less than 5900 F (around $840) for a H3660 in Nantes... |
| 15:13:41 | mandor | _remi_: it's great to read linuxfr and slashdot during the courses ... :) |
| 15:13:55 | mandor | _remi_: check on grosbill.com |
| 15:14:31 | mandor | but I'm not sure there's xx60 |
| 15:14:31 | _remi_ | mandor: you have wireless lan access ? |
| 15:14:45 | mandor | _remi_: not at this time .. It's planned.. when I will be rich =) |
| 15:15:08 | mandor | _remi_: http://www.grosbill.com/cat.cgi?id=636&p2=promo |
| 15:15:13 | mandor | (c un 3630) |
| 15:15:28 | _remi_ | mandor: thnx. I look at this... |
| 15:17:26 | _remi_ | mandor: cheaper... but it's a 3630... |
| 15:17:54 | mandor | _remi_: I know, but it's a lot cheaper :) |
| 15:18:15 | mandor | _remi_: just to say that I'm sure you can find somewhere a lot cheaper that 5900 |
| 15:22:11 | _remi_ | H3660 are not that common in France... And there's a big price difference with us. |
| 15:23:52 | mandor | yep.. but why not a 3660 ? add the extension slot and a 340mb hard drive if you need space =) |
| 15:28:19 | _remi_ | mandor: I agree that 64MB on a PDA is quite a luxe |
| 15:30:21 | _remi_ | mandor: but I currently have 32MB on my PC and I'm tired with its constant swapping... |
| 15:31:04 | debugger | _remi_: do you use linux on that PC? |
| 15:31:05 | mandor | _remi_: there's 32Mb for ram in the 3630 |
| 15:31:14 | _remi_ | mandor: so maybe I'm psychologically influenced by this... |
| 15:31:28 | mandor | _remi_: 16Mb is for the flash (which is quite small, I agree) |
| 15:31:34 | _remi_ | debugger: yes (debian potato upgraded with a 2.4.6 kernel) |
| 15:32:58 | debugger | makes sense only a two year old windows version would run on that anyways ;) |
| 15:35:06 | _remi_ | mandor: 64MB RAM is more because it's difficult (impossible ?) to make a mem upgrade on this |
| 15:35:37 | mandor | I don't know what I could do with 64Mb ram .. |
| 15:35:37 | _remi_ | mandor: and what will be the memory requirement to run apps in a few years ? |
| 15:36:13 | mandor | _remi_: if your app require more than 32Mb I'm sure it will not on the flash card (which is only 16/32) |
| 15:36:33 | _remi_ | debugger: 486 with 32MB RAM quite ok with potato but don't expect gnome, mozilla and friends to be confortable... |
| 15:39:15 | debugger | yes I can guess just discarded my AMD 486-DX4 100MHz 16 MB RAM last week |
| 15:39:28 | _remi_ | mandor: I agree.. But with a extra CF or microdrive ? |
| 15:39:57 | mandor | _remi_: yep.. but in a few years, a performant pda would not cost the price it costs now |
| 15:41:03 | _remi_ | debugger: with a 1GHz Athlon 256 MB RAM I'd do the same :) |
| 15:43:28 | debugger | hehe, can't work on so much different machines :) |
| 15:43:58 | _remi_ | mandor: I'll ask grosbill for the price of a H3660 and if they can't have one for cheaper than 5900 F, I'll probably get a H3630. |
| 15:44:19 | mandor | 'k |
| 15:44:56 | _remi_ | debugger: my pda would have more power than my desktop PC... |
| 15:46:16 | debugger | _remi_: you maybe more mobile than I am |
| 15:47:10 | debugger | infact if my employer gives me one of those compaq Plug-N-Play mobile PC sort of thing, I dont even need a PDA then |
| 15:48:10 | _remi_ | debugger: I need a pda because I work at the university and I'm always from one place to another |
| 15:48:11 | dc | hehe |
| 15:48:20 | dc | iPaq 3630 :) |
| 15:48:29 | dc | I'm just about to get one |
| 15:49:11 | debugger | _remi_: that pretty much explains your need for a nice color unit :) |
| 15:49:23 | _remi_ | debugger: and I like debugging in the train |
| 15:49:35 | dc | :) |
| 15:49:36 | _remi_ | debuggers: and I like gadgets ;) |
| 15:49:46 | _remi_ | dc: so do I |
| 15:49:47 | debugger | I like gadgets too :) |
| 15:50:05 | dc | I reall yhave no need for one, just the pure joy of having protible Linux :) |
| 15:50:18 | debugger | i just wonder if I can use any IR keyboard with an iPAQ |
| 15:50:24 | dc | alot less heavier that laptops to :) |
| 15:51:04 | _remi_ | dc: I used to have linux on a compaq aero 486sx25 |
| 15:51:12 | debugger | dc: I have a PDA runnint linux..... only linux , does not help much though its a linux console rather a PDA now |
| 15:51:25 | dc | why only cosole? |
| 15:51:35 | dc | _remi_: nice :) worked good? |
| 15:51:46 | _remi_ | dc: 4MB RAM :( |
| 15:51:52 | dc | ow. |
| 15:52:04 | dc | are you gonna get an iPaq? |
| 15:52:05 | debugger | dc: it has two different PIM frameworks but no PIM app, it has got sqlite but nothing to access it... and so on |
| 15:52:28 | dc | debugger: what PDA is it? |
| 15:52:48 | debugger | its a Vtech Helio, my iPAQ is on its way |
| 15:52:57 | debugger | and this one is going out of the window |
| 15:52:59 | _remi_ | dc: yes. Maybe a H3660 or maybe a H3630 following mandor's advice... |
| 15:53:16 | dc | hehe! |
| 15:53:27 | debugger | beware I am on 6th floor |
| 15:53:32 | dc | _remi_: do you live in the US? |
| 15:53:36 | dc | lol |
| 15:53:49 | dc | I'm gonna order mine on Monday :) |
| 15:53:53 | dc | 3630... |
| 15:53:54 | _remi_ | dc: no. I live in France (Nantes). |
| 15:54:24 | dc | _remi_: I got some here for £270!! |
| 15:54:38 | dc | hehe |
| 15:55:04 | _remi_ | dc: ipaqs are very expensive in France... |
| 15:55:32 | debugger | _remi_: get one imported |
| 15:55:34 | dc | well, you should get one form UK :) I've found a company that have them refurb for £270 as I saud |
| 15:55:54 | dc | same stuff...just cheaper :) |
| 15:56:37 | _remi_ | dc, debugger: I know, but it's quite tricky to import this kind of devices in France |
| 15:57:01 | _remi_ | dc, debugger: (to be on the right side of the legality of course) |
| 15:57:10 | dc | really, mate..come pick it up form my place! it's only like 5 pounds for the farrey ;) |
| 15:57:39 | _remi_ | dc: VAT declaration and so on... |
| 15:57:55 | dc | no, I was serious. |
| 15:58:02 | debugger | you both are lucky, I am in Asia the only way to get it is via import :( |
| 15:58:07 | dc | :( |
| 15:58:18 | dc | _remi_: where are you in france? |
| 15:58:19 | _remi_ | dc: I may take the boat to UK and bring it back with my luggage |
| 15:58:25 | dc | yes |
| 15:58:29 | EGg0 | is away: Eek! I'm late for a meeting! |
| 15:58:33 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:00:04) |
| 15:58:43 | _remi_ | dc: Nantes, in West of France (south of Britanny) |
| 15:58:46 | EGg0 | is away: (buying plutonium) |
| 15:58:51 | dc | o. |
| 15:59:04 | EGg0 | is back (gone 00:00:19) |
| 15:59:13 | _remi_ | dc: but I get sick in boats :( |
| 15:59:40 | dc | Geek's do anything for tech. |
| 16:00:04 | _remi_ | dc: what's the price for a H3660 in UK ? |
| 16:01:41 | dc | just cheking. |
| 16:02:59 | dc | £466 retail new. |
| 16:03:35 | dc | I can get 3630 for £270 though. |
| 16:04:32 | _remi_ | dc: thnx. Strange price difference between a 3630 and a 3660... |
| 16:05:43 | _remi_ | dc: I think I'll get a 3630. H3660 is *too* expensive. |
| 16:06:02 | dc | ye |
| 16:06:16 | dc | X runs good on 32Mb |
| 16:06:31 | dc | I used to use a PC of the same spec at work! |
| 16:06:36 | dc | for a few days... |
| 16:06:44 | dc | before I kicked the side in. |
| 16:07:17 | _remi_ | dc: I use a PC less than these specs at home. |
| 16:08:15 | dc | ouch. |
| 16:08:23 | dc | well iPaq is gonna be vey nice :) |
| 16:09:19 | _remi_ | dc: I hope so. Will you have CF or PCMCIA ext. ? |
| 16:10:18 | dc | I'm getting CF or 1Gb micro drive at a later date :) |
| 16:10:27 | dc | once I get some more ££ |
| 16:10:44 | _remi_ | dc: I plan to buy a PCMCIA ext. (I've some pcmcia cards that I used with my old laptop) |
| 16:11:00 | dc | that'd be very usfull :) |
| 16:11:09 | dc | modem would be good. |
| 16:11:37 | dc | hehe, you could even put in Noxia module card and use it as a phone to :) |
| 16:11:43 | dc | *Nokia |
| 16:12:01 | _remi_ | dc: I hope that these cards won't be to tricky to support with the arm kernel |
| 16:12:22 | dc | what are you planing to use? |
| 16:13:22 | _remi_ | dc: modem (psion 56K), ethernet (3com 10/100BT), CF adapter |
| 16:13:55 | _remi_ | dc: all of them are supported with intel kernel + pcmcia-cs |
| 16:14:07 | dc | yes. |
| 16:14:16 | dc | are you gonna have a pop at linux? |
| 16:14:44 | _remi_ | dc: I don't know if pcmcia support is different in the arm kernel vs. the intel kernel |
| 16:15:03 | dc | not sure... |
| 16:15:09 | gonz | it is completely the same afaik |
| 16:15:16 | _remi_ | dc: a pop ? (sorry I'm french :( |
| 16:15:24 | _remi_ | gonz: good new :)) |
| 16:15:24 | dc | *go. |
| 16:15:53 | dc | you going to try linux on your iPaq? |
| 16:16:09 | _remi_ | dc: of course I will.. I buy the ipaq for that... |
| 16:16:28 | dc | good, good :) |
| 16:16:52 | dc | I wanna get an IBM micro drive 1GB and try KDE out, haha! :) |
| 16:18:49 | _remi_ | dc: I'd like to see :) |
| 16:19:04 | dc | lol |
| 16:19:46 | dc | brb later mate, nice talking :) |
| 16:21:29 | _remi_ | dc: bye |
| 17:13:16 | EGg0 | is away: (time to actually do some housework) |
| 18:58:53 | storpik | ? |
| 18:58:59 | storpik | hello |
| 18:59:32 | noriko | hi |
| 19:00:33 | storpik | I ma having trouble uploading the bootloader to my iPAQ (familiar linux). Using xmodem |
| 19:17:23 | Kero | uh-oh |
| 19:17:30 | Kero | storpik: what's the problem? |
| 19:19:07 | DragonEagle | is back (gone 07:42:34) |
| 19:19:56 | storpik | Well, using minicom on Linux. xmodem fails |
| 19:20:06 | storpik | get NAKs |
| 19:20:45 | nelson | storpik: Yup. |
| 19:21:00 | storpik | Is it a config problem? |
| 19:21:21 | nelson | Nope. |
| 19:21:57 | nelson | The bootloader times out too fast, and once it starts, it never gets back in sync. Various people including myself have looked at the code and not found any obvious fix. |
| 19:21:58 | storpik | boot> load bootldr | gets prompt. Then when I try xmoden bootloader-etc. Sending bootldr-0000-2.14.8, 789 blocks: Give your local XMODEM receive command now. |
| 19:22:19 | storpik | Bummer |
| 19:23:02 | storpik | So I should just try to get it running faster? |
| 19:23:17 | nelson | That works, or .... |
| 19:23:18 | Kero | When you start the upload again, you can type ENTER a few times for the filename. It will reuse the old name. |
| 19:23:37 | nelson | or .... http://www.handhelds.org/pipermail/ipaq/2000-September/000692.html |
| 19:24:05 | nelson | Personally, I don't waste my time with minicom. This is Unix. We have scripts. We are powerful. |
| 19:24:42 | storpik | Thanks. A russel Nelson script. |
| 19:24:51 | storpik | I will try that. |
| 19:38:34 | MoD | does someone use an irc-client on his ipaq |
| 19:42:04 | _remi_ | MoD: I've no ipaq yet. Do you use an irc client on your ipaq ? |
| 19:42:22 | Kero | MoD: xchat has been ported, there may be more clients |
| 19:42:52 | MoD | Kero where can i find it? |
| 19:43:01 | | Kero: i'm not following you... |
| 19:43:01 | Kero | ibot, xchat |
| 19:43:06 | Kero | dunno |
| 19:43:12 | Kero | don't use it myself. |
| 19:44:03 | MoD | Kero do u know somebody? |
| 19:45:32 | MoD | _remi_ i want to |
| 19:46:06 | MoD | Kero from where did u heard of that |
| 19:46:32 | Kero | one of those channels... forgot who... tried the Wiki? |
| 19:46:37 | Kero | the skiffcluster? |
| 19:48:06 | MoD | the skiffcluster? don't what this answer stand for |
| 19:49:02 | DragonEagle | mod, you really need to bury yourself in the wiki for a couple of days |
| 19:49:06 | Kero | there is a wealth of binaries on them. |
| 19:49:06 | | skiffcluster is at http://handhelds.org/projects/skiffcluster.html |
| 19:49:06 | DragonEagle | ibot skiffcluster |
| 19:56:52 | | MoD: i'm not following you... |
| 19:56:52 | MoD | ibot x-chat |
| 20:44:56 | nim | Anyone know anything about getting xcopilot to run on an iPAQ? |
| 21:02:44 | Lemon | hi :) |
| 21:22:38 | EGg0 | is away: (going to the movies) |
| 23:01:33 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner |