| 00:09:34 | mattman | Anyone using the double PCMCIA sleeve? |
| 00:10:39 | mattman | Has anyone upgraded to the 2.4.6 kernel? |
| 00:12:01 | RoMo | yes |
| 00:12:12 | RoMo | no. not really. fresh installed. |
| 00:12:49 | mattman | Where did you get your images... the ones I just used to fresh install seem to be badly lacking |
| 00:13:05 | mattman | No pppd, no ipkg.conf file, etc |
| 00:13:23 | RoMo | zImage-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs |
| 00:13:23 | RoMo | task-bootstrap-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs-hh4.jffs2 |
| 00:13:23 | RoMo | kernel-modules-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs_hh4_arm.ipk |
| 00:13:32 | RoMo | lorien.handhelds.org |
| 00:14:32 | mattman | hmmm... ok.. must have used the wrong ones. Same version numbers, but I did not use the devfs versions |
| 00:14:36 | mattman | what is the difference? |
| 00:14:57 | mattman | zImage-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-fam4 |
| 00:15:07 | mattman | task-bootstrap-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-fam4-hh4.jffs2 |
| 00:15:31 | RoMo | fam4 is broken |
| 00:15:37 | RoMo | i think it's the devfs for /dev |
| 00:15:50 | RoMo | somone told me not to use the fam4 files. |
| 00:16:02 | RoMo | i had the same problem with ipkf.conf |
| 00:16:06 | RoMo | ipkg.conf |
| 00:16:13 | RoMo | it's called ipkg.conf-dist ;) |
| 00:16:14 | mattman | ok, that's cool... I will add that to the WIKI I think so no one else trips over it |
| 00:16:20 | RoMo | you should rename it. |
| 00:16:25 | RoMo | yes! |
| 00:16:41 | mattman | Did you upgrade to enable a dual-PCMCIA sleeve? |
| 00:16:47 | RoMo | i've searched 2 weeks for the files because the filenames that jamey writes doens't exist |
| 00:16:50 | RoMo | yes. |
| 00:17:09 | mattman | Is it working for you? What kind of NIC are you using? |
| 00:17:30 | RoMo | don't know. i have no pcmcia card except a cf |
| 00:18:15 | RoMo | i wouldn't spend >100 USD for a new pcmcia nic so i'm watching @ ebay. |
| 00:18:17 | RoMo | SA-1100 PCMCIA (CS release 3.1.22) |
| 00:18:17 | RoMo | dual_pcmcia_probe_sleeve: dev->name=Dual PC Card Sleeve |
| 00:18:17 | RoMo | ****sa1100_bitsy_change_sleeves changed |
| 00:18:17 | RoMo | run_sbin_hotplug:76 * hotplug_path=/sbin/hotplug |
| 00:18:17 | RoMo | h3600_sleeve_register_driver: registered a driver that matches the current sleev |
| 00:18:18 | RoMo | e Compaq Dual PC Card Sleeve |
| 00:18:20 | RoMo | sa1100: initialization complete |
| 00:18:24 | mattman | ok... well, I am hoping that my 3cXE589ET has a working driver (probably 3c589 compat) |
| 00:18:40 | RoMo | 3com card? oh |
| 00:18:45 | RoMo | i heart no 3com card works |
| 00:19:05 | mattman | that would suck |
| 00:19:20 | RoMo | mattman: check wiki. |
| 00:22:18 | mattman | where abouts? |
| 00:22:37 | mattman | I just brought down those files... let's hope this install goes better |
| 00:23:33 | mattman | The supported hardware page has not been updated in months, but every distro seems to have 3c589.o packaged with it, so I am hoping work has continued on that card but folks have neglected to update the WIKI |
| 00:25:02 | sjohnson_dinner | is away: food |
| 00:27:06 | RoMo | maybe |
| 00:28:22 | mattman | tell you in about 30 minutes ;-) |
| 00:29:13 | mattman | "Fire at will!"; "Kernel away Captain!" |
| 00:29:29 | RoMo | he |
| 00:30:27 | mattman | "Direct hit, Sir"; "Good work Wessley!" |
| 00:33:28 | RoMo | do you know how to setup a ppp link on a w2k box to an ipaq? |
| 00:33:31 | RoMo | via serialß |
| 00:33:34 | RoMo | ? |
| 00:34:00 | mattman | not off the top, but it seems to me that there was a link to such a document in the PPP howto |
| 00:34:24 | RoMo | but not on w2k :( |
| 00:34:34 | mattman | I just decomissioned my last Microsoft box two weeks ago. Sorry :) |
| 00:39:15 | sjohnson_dinner | is back (gone 00:14:14) |
| 00:45:12 | RoMo | does the pppd create an error_log? |
| 00:47:47 | cmarqu | RoMo: in /var/log/messages on my desktop. dunno about the ipaq |
| 00:48:10 | RoMo | no messages logfile on fam4 |
| 00:48:10 | RoMo | :< |
| 00:48:32 | cmarqu | hmm. can you log in as user ppp? |
| 00:48:35 | RoMo | yes |
| 00:48:46 | cmarqu | you get the ppp junk? |
| 00:48:49 | RoMo | yes |
| 00:48:56 | RoMo | then i click ok "ok" |
| 00:48:59 | RoMo | <ms w2k box> |
| 00:49:11 | RoMo | but w2k gots no "authentication ok" |
| 00:49:24 | cmarqu | hmm... no idea... |
| 00:49:39 | cmarqu | do you have "noauth" in your /etc/ppp/options> |
| 00:49:43 | cmarqu | ? |
| 00:50:11 | RoMo | yes |
| 00:50:17 | RoMo | maybe i should remove this? |
| 00:50:37 | RoMo | # cat /etc/ppp/options |
| 00:50:37 | RoMo | -detach |
| 00:50:37 | RoMo | defaultroute |
| 00:50:37 | RoMo | noauth |
| 00:50:37 | RoMo | nocrtscts |
| 00:50:40 | cmarqu | i doubt, but why not try it... |
| 00:50:44 | RoMo | lock |
| 00:50:44 | RoMo | lcp-echo-interval 5 |
| 00:50:44 | RoMo | lcp-echo-failure 3 |
| 00:50:44 | RoMo | /dev/ttySA0 |
| 00:50:46 | RoMo | 115200 |
| 00:51:58 | cmarqu | standard. really no idea now... no windoze here |
| 00:52:18 | RoMo | argl |
| 00:52:24 | RoMo | no way to debug this this suxx really |
| 00:52:26 | RoMo | *angry* |
| 00:52:48 | RoMo | is there no way to turn loggin on? |
| 00:53:26 | cmarqu | add "debug" to /etc/pp/options |
| 00:53:32 | cmarqu | not sure where this logs tho |
| 00:53:43 | cmarqu | maybe not at all... |
| 00:55:06 | cmarqu | man pppd: |
| 00:55:12 | cmarqu | logfd n |
| 00:55:13 | cmarqu | Send log messages to file descriptor n. Pppd will |
| 00:55:13 | cmarqu | send log messages to at most one file or file |
| 00:55:13 | cmarqu | descriptor (as well as sending the log messages to |
| 00:55:13 | cmarqu | syslog), so this option and the logfile option are |
| 00:55:14 | cmarqu | mutually exclusive. The default is for pppd to |
| 00:55:15 | cmarqu | send log messages to stdout (file descriptor 1), |
| 00:55:18 | cmarqu | unless the serial port is already open on stdout. |
| 00:55:20 | cmarqu | logfile filename |
| 00:55:22 | cmarqu | Append log messages to the file filename (as well |
| 00:55:24 | cmarqu | as sending the log messages to syslog). The file |
| 00:55:26 | cmarqu | is opened with the privileges of the user who |
| 00:55:29 | cmarqu | invoked pppd, in append mode. |
| 00:55:51 | RoMo | cool |
| 00:55:59 | RoMo | echo " |
| 00:55:59 | RoMo | -detach |
| 00:55:59 | RoMo | defaultroute |
| 00:55:59 | RoMo | noauth |
| 00:55:59 | RoMo | debug |
| 00:56:00 | RoMo | nocrtscts |
| 00:56:02 | RoMo | lock |
| 00:56:04 | RoMo | lcp-echo-interval 5 |
| 00:56:06 | RoMo | lcp-echo-failure 3 |
| 00:56:08 | RoMo | /dev/ttySA0 |
| 00:56:10 | RoMo | 115200" >> /etc/ppp/options |
| 00:56:14 | RoMo | is the /dev/ correct? |
| 00:56:16 | RoMo | ttySA0 ? |
| 00:56:43 | cmarqu | with devfs, it should be /dev/tts/0 |
| 00:58:10 | RoMo | how can i test this? |
| 00:59:09 | RoMo | but: |
| 00:59:10 | RoMo | PAM_unix[125]: (login) session opened for user root by LOGIN(uid=0) |
| 00:59:10 | RoMo | login[125]: ROOT LOGIN on `ttySA0' |
| 00:59:28 | cmarqu | looks good i'd say |
| 01:00:56 | RoMo | hm pppd.log says: |
| 01:00:57 | RoMo | sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1 <asyncmap 0x0> <magic 0x27886908> <pcomp> <accomp>] |
| 01:00:57 | RoMo | LCP: timeout sending Config-Requests |
| 01:00:57 | RoMo | Connection terminated. |
| 01:04:41 | cmarqu | don't know, i'd try google now |
| 01:05:47 | mattman | Wow... still a mess, did you get piles of: |
| 01:05:50 | mattman | modprobe: modprobe: Can't locate module net-pf-1 |
| 01:06:01 | mattman | after you installed 2.4.6? |
| 01:06:42 | mattman | I also have piles and piles of |
| 01:06:55 | mattman | "Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs/kernel/..." |
| 01:09:01 | cmarqu | mattman: i'd akso on the mailing list, or wait for e.g. jamey here |
| 01:09:22 | cmarqu | needs to go offline now. bye... |
| 01:09:36 | RoMo | bye |
| 01:09:54 | mattman | later |
| 01:10:31 | mattman | RoMo... did you see the above after re-installing? |
| 01:20:24 | RoMo | no |
| 01:20:40 | RoMo | have you installed the kernel modules? |
| 01:20:57 | mattman | 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-fam4 |
| 01:21:09 | RoMo | and the kernel modules? |
| 01:21:15 | RoMo | thats only the kernel |
| 01:21:15 | mattman | yes, but I did not link /lib/modules/2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs |
| 01:21:21 | mattman | to 2.4.6-rmk1-np2-fam4 |
| 01:21:36 | RoMo | uhm. i've createt a symlink |
| 01:21:57 | mattman | ok... I just did that, I will try reinstalling the modules package |
| 01:21:58 | RoMo | but only on the fam4 |
| 01:22:05 | RoMo | as i said: don'T try the fam4 |
| 01:22:21 | RoMo | zImage-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs |
| 01:22:21 | RoMo | task-bootstrap-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs-hh4.jffs2 |
| 01:22:21 | RoMo | kernel-modules-2.4.6-rmk1-np2-devfs_hh4_arm.ipk |
| 01:22:23 | RoMo | this works. |
| 01:22:40 | mattman | no, I did the devfs that you recommended... thats hwere I disappeared for 45 minutes |
| 01:23:39 | RoMo | how big is your kernel partition? |
| 01:24:08 | mattman | not sure... how does on tell? |
| 01:24:13 | RoMo | hard reset |
| 01:24:20 | RoMo | boot> params show |
| 01:24:30 | RoMo | <or reboot> |
| 01:24:43 | mattman | k, one sec |
| 01:24:44 | RoMo | i have no symlinks there yet |
| 01:24:51 | RoMo | so i think you have the wrong images |
| 01:24:59 | RoMo | or the partition is too small |
| 01:25:11 | RoMo | you're upgrading from fam4 ? |
| 01:25:39 | mattman | hmmm... I had fam4 on here |
| 01:25:51 | RoMo | ok so you kernel partition is only 512kb big |
| 01:25:51 | mattman | Then I did the second section of the dual-jacket instructions |
| 01:26:17 | mattman | Which was to xmodem upload the new kernel and new jffs |
| 01:26:25 | mattman | then I redid it with the files you recommended |
| 01:26:35 | RoMo | can you paste a "partition show" ? |
| 01:26:43 | mattman | sure hang on |
| 01:27:09 | RoMo | k |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | argv[1]=partition |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | npartitions=00000004 |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | bootldr |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | base: 00000000 |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | size: 00040000 |
| 01:27:12 | mattman | flags: 00000002 |
| 01:27:14 | mattman | params |
| 01:27:16 | mattman | base: 00040000 |
| 01:27:18 | mattman | size: 00040000 |
| 01:27:20 | mattman | flags: 00000000 |
| 01:27:22 | mattman | kernel |
| 01:27:24 | mattman | base: 00080000 |
| 01:27:26 | mattman | size: 00080000 |
| 01:27:28 | mattman | flags: 00000000 |
| 01:27:30 | mattman | root |
| 01:27:32 | mattman | base: 00100000 |
| 01:27:34 | mattman | size: 00F00000 |
| 01:27:36 | mattman | flags: 00000010 |
| 01:28:09 | RoMo | i think your kernel partition is too small |
| 01:28:39 | mattman | any idea how to change it |
| 01:28:40 | RoMo | (ColinMarquardt adds: make sure you have a 768k kernel partition - not 512k. |
| 01:28:40 | RoMo | invalid compressed format (err=1) |
| 01:28:40 | RoMo | -- System halted |
| 01:28:40 | RoMo | ) |
| 01:28:45 | RoMo | shit. |
| 01:28:52 | RoMo | you had the change to ask him yourself :P |
| 01:29:06 | RoMo | wait |
| 01:29:23 | mattman | ok |
| 01:29:56 | RoMo | http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/Putting%20a%20Kernel%20bigger%20than%20512KB%20on%20an%20Ipaq |
| 01:44:07 | RoMo | n8 |
| 02:09:22 | ZooZoo | hi i'd like to know if 31xx series is fully funtional running latest familiar distribution. |
| 04:49:06 | DragonEagle_dennys | is away: coffeeeee |
| 06:02:01 | finalfantasydog | night |
| 07:00:05 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 08:34:25 | SlepingDragon | is away: zzzzzzz |
| 10:33:57 | alexksso | hi! |
| 10:34:40 | alexksso | I just corrupted the flash of my ipaq .... it doesn't boot anymore and looks dead ... is there a way to reflash the rom ? |
| 10:40:30 | GorKon15 | anyone know of a replacement for 'net explorer'? a net client? |
| 11:22:55 | RoMo | hi |
| 12:03:39 | needo | Hi |
| 14:05:57 | joyjas | Hi just installed task-bootstrap.jffs2 root image for familiar v0.4 and am getting the following messages cardmgr[59]: starting, version is 3.1.20 |
| 14:05:57 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: watching 2 sockets |
| 14:05:58 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: Card Services release does not match |
| 14:05:58 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: initializing socket 0 |
| 14:05:58 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: socket 0: NE2000 Compatible Ethernet |
| 14:05:58 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: executing: 'modprobe 8390' |
| 14:06:00 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: executing: 'modprobe pcnet_cs' |
| 14:06:02 | joyjas | bitsy_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=0 reset=0 |
| 14:06:04 | joyjas | bitsy_pcmcia_configure_socket: socket=0 vcc=50 vpp=0 reset=0 |
| 14:06:06 | joyjas | eth0: NE2000 (DL10022 rev 05): io 0xf6000300, irq 42, hw_addr 00:E0:98:97:80:F6 |
| 14:06:08 | joyjas | cardmgr[59]: executing: './network start eth0' |
| 14:06:10 | joyjas | familiar login: eth0: MII is missing! |
| 14:06:45 | joyjas | My question is how come card services release does not match? More importantly how do I fix it and what about MII missing? |
| 14:37:13 | mattman | sorry, not sure |
| 14:39:05 | joyjas | That's ok. I'm still searching the old mailing list for similar problems. |
| 14:47:53 | Morn | Hi |
| 14:48:50 | Morn | Hi Alex |
| 14:51:07 | Morn | Hi Nikos |
| 14:52:04 | Morn | Hi Sventon |
| 14:52:29 | joyjas | Anyone know how to fix "card services release does not match & MII missing" errors. |
| 14:53:20 | nikos | Hi Morn |
| 14:54:06 | Morn | I just got my iPAQ yesterday still learning the differences between it an dthe Palm |
| 14:55:40 | alexksso | slaps nelson around a bit with a large trout |
| 14:56:07 | nikos | Well, that was an interesting exit. |
| 14:56:34 | Morn | looks like an mIRC user, that program should be banned |
| 15:06:33 | sventon | Morn: hello |
| 15:07:19 | Morn | seems kinda quiet around here |
| 15:07:44 | nikos | Morn: It's the weekend. |
| 15:08:13 | Morn | that's when *I* have time for stuff like IRC |
| 15:08:58 | nikos | Morn: Also, many people (unlike myself :) ) only say something when they have something to say. Ask the right question and you may get mobbed. ;) |
| 15:11:49 | Morn | Well so far I really lke the iPAQ, but I have to say that I am not to happy with WinCE |
| 15:28:36 | bdkearns | nikos: and others leave an irc client on all the time, and are only present/watching IRC for a certain period of time |
| 15:29:19 | nikos | bdkearns: Indeed |
| 15:30:39 | bdkearns | so not only what question, but also when it was asked will have an effect on if you get mobbed or not :) |
| 15:30:48 | bdkearns | err s/was/is/ |
| 15:35:32 | GorKon16 | hello! anyone used the 'net explorer'? |
| 15:38:37 | Morn | I still need to get a wireless modem for the iPAQ, going looking for one today |
| 15:38:51 | GorKon16 | i have a wifi card |
| 15:38:53 | GorKon16 | pcmcia |
| 15:39:03 | Morn | How much was it? |
| 15:39:06 | nikos | GorKon16: Is this related to WindowCE? |
| 15:39:19 | GorKon16 | chepa $85 |
| 15:39:24 | nikos | Is the topic missing again or is it just me? |
| 15:39:48 | GorKon16 | nikos, pocketpc at first, but now the discussion is hardware |
| 15:39:56 | GorKon16 | #ipaq There isn't a topic. |
| 15:40:08 | GorKon16 | sorry if this is linux only channel |
| 15:40:11 | nikos | GorKon16: OK, just keep in mind that this channel if for Open Source on the ipaq, we don't do WindowsCE. |
| 15:40:16 | nikos | GorKon16: That's OK, I'll fix the /topic. |
| 15:40:25 | GorKon16 | well, the net client was writen from GPL code |
| 15:40:33 | GorKon16 | i was looking for an open source replacement |
| 15:41:00 | GorKon16 | based on sabma |
| 15:41:06 | GorKon16 | samba even |
| 15:41:50 | GorKon16 | morn, i got a dlink, which was a wl-110 clone |
| 15:42:03 | GorKon16 | does linux run on the 3150? i an extra i would like to try |
| 15:42:12 | GorKon16 | i have an extra 3150 i mean |
| 15:42:21 | nikos | GorKon16: http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 |
| 15:42:48 | GorKon16 | nikos, thanks |
| 15:43:19 | GorKon16 | well, anyway good louck with your port thingy |
| 16:07:41 | DragonEagle | is away: rebooting |
| 16:30:33 | gige | hi there |
| 16:31:27 | gige | anyone here who has installed linux on the iPaq 31xx ? |
| 16:33:07 | Disconnect | gige: try #handhelds.org |
| 16:43:30 | _Axu_ | hi folks :) |
| 16:44:26 | nikos | gige: http://handhelds.org/z/wiki/H3100 |
| 16:44:32 | _Axu_ | does anybody in herer know how far the randr extensions for X are |
| 16:44:36 | _Axu_ | hi nikos ? |
| 16:44:58 | nikos | _Axu_: We are running them. I can't say they are done, but they are very close. |
| 16:45:22 | _Axu_ | nikos: where to get, and how does fscribble do with it ? |
| 16:46:02 | nikos | _Axu_: You need to upgrade to lateest stuff in unstable feed. |
| 16:46:21 | _Axu_ | nikos: i reinstalled wince 3 days ago just for testing quake :) now im looking for what do flash next :) |
| 16:46:53 | _Axu_ | the thnig i miss most in ce is fscribble |
| 16:47:50 | _Axu_ | nikos: hmm, ipkg 'es ..i c |
| 16:49:13 | _Axu_ | nikos: are there any boot(kernel)images ? |
| 16:49:31 | nikos | _Axu_: Install Familiar v0.4 then upgrade. |
| 16:49:40 | _Axu_ | whats the actual kernelversion ? and are you talking bou8t intimate or familiar |
| 16:49:57 | nikos | I'm talking about Familiar |
| 16:50:10 | _Axu_ | nikos: hmm, 0.4 last time i did that i coudnt get the stylus calibrated |
| 16:50:29 | nikos | _Axu_: I have no clue why that would be the case. |
| 16:50:32 | _Axu_ | the pointer was hopping around |
| 16:50:44 | _Axu_ | unusable |
| 16:51:13 | _Axu_ | hmm, ok, ill try ipkg dist-upgrade ;) |
| 16:53:23 | _Axu_ | bye |
| 16:57:58 | sjohnson | is away: BRB |
| 17:08:14 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:10:16) |
| 17:17:40 | sjohnson | is away: I've lost my mind, and I've gone to look for it... |
| 17:20:02 | sjohnson | is back (gone 00:02:21) |
| 17:25:44 | sjohnson | is away: errands |
| 20:00:09 | DragonEagle | is away: rebooting |
| 20:05:37 | Disconnect | is away: afk, bbl |
| 20:13:33 | DragonEagle | is away: store |
| 20:53:34 | Helgos | hi together |
| 20:56:22 | Helgos | i have bought an ipaq and yesterday i installed linux on it. but now I have a problem. I think I need a network- card to install the GUI. can somebody give me a link where i can have a look for compatible cards? |
| 21:15:16 | DragonEagle | is back |
| 21:28:03 | terrys | \j #familiar |
| 22:52:45 | DragonEagle | is away: dinner |